Dr. Insanity - Teen Realizes He Accidentally Recorded A Mass Stabbing

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

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So you left with just you and your husband John that came? No, Nick. Nick? Yes. Okay. Did you see him the whole time he was off his tube? Yes, I did. I could see him.

He was over there, and then he came back over, and then I just heard screaming. This is the real! This is the real! Oh, my God! They're no one for me! You know what my husband! Does Nick know and Kerry? Does he ever carry a weapon with him?

He had a knife in his pocket. Well, we got some stuff to work out, okay? Okay. Because it was more than just an injured. It was a pretty serious event that happened. Telling us, please help us. This guy's a pedophile, and he won't leave us alone. Yeah, he just started stopping everyone.

So how many people have hurt? I was told at least three. No, if it's not happening yet, you know. It was not a little bit of a big of him. I just have three people. A man's intestines are falling out of his body. On July 30, 2022, a group of teens swimming in the Apple River noticed a 52-year-old man allegedly making inappropriate comments towards one of the females in the group.

A physical altercation between the man and the teens ensued, however, things would quickly turn for the worst. Because after being pushed over by the teenagers, the man pulls out a knife. And shortly after getting to his feet, the man goes to attack. Nikolai Mew, the man with the knife, would go on to take the life of 17-year-old Isaac Schumann and injure four others in the process. One of the victims, A.J. Martin, was cut so bad, he had intestines protruding from his body. Panic erupted, blood stained the river, and witnesses flooded County Police with 911 calls.

Thank you for me. Get a one from me! Hello, 2001. Hello? Hello? Where are you? Oh, my, my God, no, this is not happening. No, it's not happening yet, no, it is not anything here now.

No, my God. Please, we, we don't, we got help coming. Are you there with that? Yes, we're here. Okay, so call 911, where's the answer of your emergency? Mom, I'm at, I'm at Apple River. We're on the river and a guy just to have three people. A man's intestines are falling out of his body.

Okay, stop, stop, stop right now. What's going on? I'm on Apple River in Wisconsin. Police rushed to the scene, but the damage had already been done. And the attacker, Nikolai, had fled the scene. The race was now on to apprehend Nikolai and determine what caused him to commit such a horrifying act. This footage has never been. scene. Viewer discretion is advised.

I'll peek it this way if you can get this way. Yep. They're doing CPR right now. If we could launch a boat here and get up there, that'd be awesome. Buckback went under the wood at the initial location, a quarter mile up river from the 54 bridge. Did he go up on the north or South Bank? South Bank. He went up right here? They don't know.

Okay. No one knows. Okay. They said this region. They don't know exactly right. Okay. Are you three all witnesses? Yes. Friends of one of the victims?

All of them. All of them. Okay. I just saw the video that the dude. Oh, okay. You didn't see it in person happen though? No. Okay.

We were floating, we caught up to that group of kids. Okay. And the guy was harassing him. And so I wanted to stop it before. I was worried they were going to hurt that guy. Okay. You know, I was worried they were going to gang up on him. She went over there to try and defuse it.

He punched her and then started her. then started... Yeah, he just started stifing everyone. Literally, I just went crazy. And then the other group tried to stop him and... And what do you look like? He was, like, probably this big, 250 pounds of beer body. He was wearing a chain.

He was, like, he was kind of bald. He was stereotypical. That's what he looked like. First saw him, he had scuba goggles. Yes, clear goggles. Scuba goggles on? Okay. Now that the officers have a clear description of this man,

all hands go on deck to find him immediately. As such, officers send up multiple thermal drones, and shut down the area until his capture, the hunt is on to find this ramped killer. I'll turn around to stop saying up here. Hey? What do you guys need people? Uh, start roaming, roaming perimeter on this road. Uh, 30-year-old, 30-year-old white male, uh, black shorts.

Do you have the picture? No, no, you guys... Not yet. I'm waiting on the picture. I'm white male about 30 years old. I went down to the campground down here at the river. I notified all of them to get off the river. Okay, what's his name? We, uh, I don't think we have a name.

I don't think we do yet either. Just don't roam in this. However, it wouldn't take long to find Nikolai, as a witness noticed him and threatened him with a baseball bat to wait for officers. Our current witness says that the male appears we wearing a camel-colored shirt. And ran back. Okay. Yes. I'm sorry, yeah.

We're just being detained at this point, okay? Yes. Do you think dispatch, we'll leave, we have the suspect detained? We'll leave we have detained at this time? No. No weapons are nothing like that? Okay. What's your name?

Nick. Nick what? Nick Mew. Okay. Yeah, I think that's it. He's got a silver too, on them. Silver block chain. Like I said, sir, you just detained at this point, okay?

We'll explain anything in a second here. I'm still coming. I'm just getting for bald one. And I need it. The guy at the band, baseball bat was just responding to the sighting. Can you step out for a second? We just want to check you out.

Are you injured at all? No, other than my butt, they're injured and scratched. Your butt's injured? Well, from sliding all over the stones. Oh, the rocks? Yeah, and my hand, I think. Take a look at you here. Yeah.

Now that police have Nikolai apprehended, they can bring him to the station and begin investigating what happened. However, as Nikolai is about to leave the lake, he says something that would change this investigation completely. Somebody, I hear, somebody got stabbed. Can I get the description? Yes, you do.

All right. Yep, so we're working through that now. Did you see that fight on the river? I heard about it. You heard about it? Yeah, and I seen people gather around. Okay, all right. And I went over to talk to see if somebody saw anything, but that's about it.

Okay. Our whole group was pretty interested in finding out what happened. Okay. That's your whole group over there? Yeah, yeah. No, Ted. Did you see anybody injured? No.

You didn't see anybody injured? No. Did you see anybody fighting? I heard people screaming at each other yet. How fed? Screaming in anger or screaming in pain, do you know? Everybody's drunk, so I don't know. I can't tell the difference, but I would say, I don't know.

Just screaming. Okay. You know, calling each other names. No, that's seen that all day. We've all been drinking a lot. I'm sure they're drunk. I'm sure they're kids paying kids. Not only does Nikolai completely deny that he was responsible for the stabbings,

but he pretends that no one even got hurt. The video recordings from the stabbing clearly show the attacker's face, as well as the chain Nikolai is wearing right now. Regardless of what happened during the altercation, the facts that he feels the need to pretend to be completely innocent will downplay any of his future statements. Regardless, Nikolai will be transported to the St. Croix's office where he will undergo an intense interrogation.

But for now, police need to speak with witnesses on scene to try and better understand the story from the point of view of those who saw it directly. Can you tell me, I guess, what you saw to the best of your recollection? When we got about 400 yards, and here up there. There was a group of small groups of kids. They looked like kids.

The guy was harassing them. We was, they were pointing down to tell him to get away. Yeah. Two of the boys right away got up on her. Two, two girls did. They went over and tried to get him away from them. And she roped over and punched Madison in the place. Okay.

And then the other boy hit him back as soon as good front. punched her. The guy pulled out a knife and he just started just stabbing people that were around him. Okay. We were just chilling and then we saw this older guy start harassing these younger teenagers and we're the type of people to not let that happen because they're young. So we try to stop him and he punched me in the face and then went literally crazy because all the guys started attacking him because he punched me in the face. So he took on a knife and he just started stabbing everybody and that's what happened. Everybody was just, it's all because

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Please play responsibly. If you're thinking by that statement that it's your fault, it most definitely is not, okay? We were floating down the river. We caught up to a group of kids sitting in their tubes with an older guy standing over. How old do you think kids are? The kids were high school kids.

High school. Isaac was part of that group. The one that passed away. He was part of that other group. And they were flagging us down, telling us, please help us. This guy's a pet. He won't leave us alone.

And at first I thought they were joking. He's like, no, really, please, help us, help us. He's being very creepy. But that group of kids, I was worried that they were all going to gang up on him and something bad was going to happen to the 52-year-old guy. I was worried something was going to happen to him. We just wanted to shoot the guy away.

I figured he'd go away if he saw people intervening. Next thing I know, as everyone's running at me, he stabbed me, he stabbed me, you know. And I saw the guy get punched and fall down. Who's the guy? Sorry. No, that's okay. The suspect. I saw him flailing wildly, but I didn't realize he was stabbing everyone.

And next thing I know, I have... I'm dying. I can't breathe. You've got to, you know. And I tried to get hurt. to him so we can float her down and get her off and it was just utter chaos from that point. Based on what witnesses are saying, Nikolai was inappropriately approaching a group of minors in the lake, was noticed by another group doing these things, and was confronted by the teens, causing him

to stab anyone who tried attacking him. But this is only coming from the side of the victim's friends. Nikolai's friends and family, on the other hand, would seem to have a completely different recollection of what went down. Who'd you come with personally? Just me and my husband goes here, and we met all of them over here. Okay. In any point in time, did any member of your group ever leave your group? My husband, Ariel, lost his phone.

Okay. So he was trying to find it, and he had it in one of those floaty things, but he thought maybe water got in it, so he put on, he brought scuba stuff with, like, and he put that on, and he was down in the water looking for it. Did you see him the whole time he was off his tube? Yes, I did. Okay.

What was he doing while he's off his tube? He was looking. Yeah. And then this group of guys, I don't know how many was on these tubes. So all of them get off their tubes and they started hitting him. Okay. All right. And what happened after that?

I yelled and then I just heard screaming. And Nick and these guys all come. came back. They were on the other side and we were on this side of the river. Yep. All I heard is somebody got hurt, but I don't know how. I don't know anything about that. I just heard someone was hurt. Does Nick known to carry, does he ever carry a weapon with him? He had a knife in his pocket, not a very big one, and he said those guys grabbed it from him. The people he was fighting with?

Yeah, they grabbed it and he said they swung it at him and he grabbed their hand and moved it away. And that's when they went, I didn't see it. That's what he told me. He said, all they kept saying was they called me a . And they started hitting me. And he said, all I did was try and look for this phone. All right. Okay.

Well, yeah, there was a few people hurt. Well, we got some stuff to work out, okay? Obviously, you with the group being Nick's wife or wife and everybody else, you guys aren't going to be able to leave for a little bit, okay, until we get the okay. Because it was more than just some injuries. It was a pretty serious event that happened. Otherwise, you wouldn't see people showing up and attacked to a green, right? Right? Okay.

Nikolai's friends and wife claim he was spontaneously attacked and that Nick's knife was grabbed by the teens and that he was even threatened with the knife. The phone recording shows Nikolai was ganged up 6 to 1 when initially confronted, turning to 13 people against one shortly after, helping to authenticate those claims. This complicated things for detectives. The site against Nick claims he's a pedophile, and when he's a guy, on a rampage after being called out. Beside with Nick claims he was attacked by the teens and didn't see him doing anything

predatory. It's clear based off the phone recording that Nick did indeed commit the stabbing's. However, his reasoning is uncertain. If the detectives determined the teens unnecessarily attacked Nick, then he could plead self-defense and most likely win. But if detectives can determine Nick acted erratically after being exposed for approaching a group of minors, then self-defense is less plausible. and he'd be facing murder charges.

In order to solve this mystery, detectives decide to conduct interviews with every prominent witness that was at the scene the day of the stabbings. However, as the case would unfold, detectives would unravel disturbing secrets from both parties, leading to one of the most twisted conclusions in the history of policing. Police began by talking to Ashley, who was on the scene during the stabbings. So yeah, I'm just kind of trying to follow up on the craziness that happened out there. How are you doing? Pretty good.

So you were out there with a group of friends for the day? Yes. And we were just going down the river, and then we saw this older man harassing these teenage boys. So Maddie said, hey, get away, get out of their faces, just move along. And all of a sudden, he punched her in the face. She went down. And I were slowly walking up there. said dad. I just got stabbed. He has a knife. He just stabbed me. And then that's when I turned,

looked at guts were all over. He was holding onto them. And then that's when he was like, go call 911. And I was trying to get back. Just started calling everyone and whatnot, telling everyone to gather out of the river and everything like that. Everything just happens. Yeah. So he was harassing them. And then you said he was messing with their tubes? Yeah. He was trying to like pull apart their tubes. And that was the first contact you had with that other group? Yes. So then, you know, you asked that other group if they need help, and they said that, you know, he was harassing them, messing with their tubes, and then what happened next? That's when Maddie went up to the group. Maddie went up to the old guy,

said, hey, get out of here, you know, stop messing with these boys, they're only teenagers. Like, I don't know what started him off to wanting to punch her in the face, but that's when he punched her in the face. She slipped. fell in the water, that's when everybody surrounded him saying, don't hit a woman, just get out of here, and everything like that. That's when I'm slowly walking towards Maddie to see if she was okay. Okay. And everything like that.

Ashley's story doesn't quite line up with the other witnesses' claims, or the speculation that Nikolai was doing anything that could classify him as a pedophile. She claims he was harassing a group of male scenes, and when Maddie approached him to stop, she was punched in the face. This is what caused the group to confront and push Nikolai, not because of the predatory theories. Regardless, punching Maddie for what seems like no reason at all is not only assault of a minor, but degrading to any defense Nikolai could make in trial.

Next, Detective speak to Emma, who shared the gruesome and horrifying details of watching the stabbings happen in real time. False, if you want, you just take me that day and tell me everything. It was a day I'll never ever forget, honestly. And so we had our music playing, and we hear our playing. So, you know, we're not paying attention to it because we don't come there for that. And so we turned around, and that's when my brother Larry on, he was like, sis, sis, you're seeing this?

And I'm like, seeing what? So then that's when we all get off of the raft. And so we stop it because the current was pulling us. So then that's when I see a guy just step some poor boy in the stomach and go straight down. And then that's when I saw him trying to put his intestines back in his stomach. He was trying to, still processing what was happening. Everybody was screaming around. The people who were trying to grab the knife from the men,

it was like a lady and three other maybe teens. She was stabbed, and she floated down the river. That's when she floated to us. And we put her on our raft and was holding her insides in because she was still just bleeding out and crying. And so then that's them. I got my phone off the plastic bag and called the police. And it's like, hey, how are we going to stop this?

But then the other people rushed to go help him. the guy who had his intestines out, and another person was trying to grab the knife from the guy, but still two other people got stabbed after that. As we got to the grass area and we were helping the girl, we were keeping her calm. I was on the phone with the police at that time, trying to give them the location of where we were on the river.

The owner of Apple River and his workers, the people who worked at the river, they were coming down and trying to climb down from the area and asking us what was happening. And we told them, what we saw and the weapon that we saw there too and even fairly quickly or i don't think he was running but you know with all the commotion we were more concerned about all the blood in the water intestines floating and other people who were severely bleeding and so at that point it was really

just let's help the people who were hurt instead of going to chase after the guy so at what point did you see a knife was there already chaos and people that were injured i saw the knife well yeah I saw the knife against it was put into the male's body. He went in and went down, and then that's when the intestines fell out. He pulled the knife out. I saw people trying to swing and grab the knife or stop him, and that's when he just went and stabbed everybody who came back. It was just poking people.

So the first male that you saw injured was one with the stomach injury? Yes. Yep, he did walk up first, and he must have saw the knife first, because he did walk up a little hostile, but I understand. And if he did see a knife and you're coming at a group of teenagers, I do understand that. Did you see the other people wondered? I mean, like, did you see the physical action that the older male dead two wound the other people? Yeah, three of them.

It was three of them. Three of them I did see those were all the people who tried to stop, put his hands out, don't do this. And he just, I just stab everybody who's in his way. Can you describe when the other people were to stand a little bit more? Do you have any more detailed that? First, I did see the other guy swing, so the one who was not as injured, he did, like, sort of swing at him, but that is when he missed, he didn't hit him, and the guy did come around, and then same for the girl. She, like, came up and, like, tried to push him, but wasn't successful, didn't have enough reach, and he went right for her side, right? Or one of these sides on the side right here and stabbed her in the stomach.

And she was trying to walk away, and then she just dropped in a wire and me and had her if you are at least. Based on both Ashley and Emma's story, Nikolai is painted as a cold-blooded killer who went on a rampage after being confronted and stabbed anyone he could reach. But it seems Emma might have a bias in her retelling of events. She recounts any attacks on Nikolai in an almost defeated way, as if she's ashamed to admit the story was rather double-edged at times. The teens were, without a doubt, wrong to some degree. It was unnecessary to gang up on Nikolai so heavily and attack him helplessly while he fell to the ground. But was this enough reason to stab five people in self-defense? The detectives will need to find more evidence to accurately figure this out.

So with this in mind, detectives take a different approach and interview Amanda Nikolai's co-worker, who went to the Apple River alongside the same group as Nikolai. I'll just start. It's my understanding that you are co-workers with Nick. Yes, he works in the other building. Okay. And how long have you known Nick? We started hanging out probably when his wife retired. Okay, so his wife used to work here? Yeah.

Sandra or Sandy? Sandy, yep. She was a supervisor in the other building. I'll say three years. Three years is when you kind of started normally hanging out and... Yeah. The coal workers come over and she invited co-workers over and everybody's friends with him and everybody, everybody's shocked. Right. So about your friendship with him, what do you know about him? He's kind of describing what do you know about him, his story, where he came from, his history, where his lakes are? Yeah, he came from Romania. He's just an outdoorsman, like fish and being with fishing and just being outside and quiet.

just calm doesn't like a lot of noise and chaos and but yeah he's just a very calm caring guy who would help whenever we needed help with something that would break down he'd come over and to fix it or help Ernesto fix something and just always helping out always helping people can you kind of just describe the day from there? Yeah, we just got there and got everybody together and went and got our stuff and we started setting up the tubes and we just got in and started going. And then Sandy kind of looked and said, Nick's in trouble, Nick's in trouble.

And I was still sitting and like, Nick's in trouble, somebody help him, somebody help. And then I got up, I'm looking. I never saw Nick down there. I never saw any of our group down there. And I never saw Nick down there. And I'm just looking. I just see people just going every which way. I didn't see any blood or anything.

And I just, I'm like, what's going on? This is a big fight going on. And then I was handed a phone. I think Tatiana called the police, but she handed me the phone. And I'm like, there's something going on. We're at the apple we're going on. There's something happening. There's a fight.

I don't know what's going on. I think I just repeated myself, and then she hung up. After that, Nick came back, and I just looked at it. I'm like, what happened? He's like, they call me a file. They took my snorkel, they attacked me, they threw me on the ground and were attacking me. And I'm like, I thought there was some kind of fight going on,

and maybe he kind of bumped into them. I did see the kid on the side. I thought maybe he knocked his head or maybe got water in him. I didn't know anything about a stabbing or anything at that time. He just, he looked like kind of stunned and shocked. And then I think he sat down. He didn't say another word. He didn't say nothing and everybody's just like looking around.

I see the police. The police are here. So let's just wait and see. Maybe they want to talk to Nick because he was part of the thing. If I knew, if I knew then, what I know now, we would not have gone down that river. I would have been like, if something happened, you gotta go. If I saw something really, if I thought that he did somewhere, I'd be like, what do you, you gotta go. And I thought he would even like stop and say, hey, something happened, I have to go.

I have to go. I would think he would have said something like that. And we're all there. It's terrible for us, because now we're getting all this crap. People, I got a home call this morning, and there was nobody on the line. So I'm all scared. This is an important interview for detectives. Someone from Nikolai's group, shocked and disgusted by his his actions that day. Not only has everyone who witnessed the scene that day painted him out to be a

monster, but his own co-worker has too. Police now have a mountain of evidence against Nikolai, but decide to talk to one final person, Larian, who reveals what actually happened leading up to the stabbing. Is there anything else you can think of about, you know, what you saw, like, you know, some things that would be important to us is like, you know, like, if you saw who pushed the guy, If you saw anyone else with a knife, if you saw anything like that. Well, one of the boys who got stabbed, he was telling us that the dude, he came up to them and asked them for, like, pictures, like, explicit pictures. And I'm like, I'm like, what?

Then y'all got the fighting. I guess they got the fight. He said, yeah, then he got to stabbing him. And he asked him for, or this is one of the guy who's actually got stabbed? Okay. Yeah, he got that, he said that's what, that's what happened. The dude was asking them for explicit pictures of the girls that they was with. So I guess from there, it was like, oh, what you're doing?

They got into authentication. They must have put their hands on him and then he retaliated by, by slashing them. This claim backs up why he was being called a file on the phone recording. If this is true, then the story makes a whole lot more sense. Nikolai approached the females asking for explicit photos. The females being mostly underage, declined, and Maddie confronted Nikolai on the matter, potentially putting her hands on him in the process. That's when he punched Maddie in the face and all hell broke loose.

A man then punched Nikolai, knocking him down, prompting him to stab anyone who tried to approach him again. A common opinion stated in unrecorded interviews was that Nikolai allegedly thought the teens on the tubes stole his missing phone, which prompted him to attack the teens. This is largely confirmed in the phone recording as well, as we can see Nikolai searching around the area and pushing the group's tubes around. Detectives would go on to interview countless more witnesses, all with the same general

story. Nikolai harassed the group of teens and, when confronted, went on a cold-blooded rampage. But still, people lie. Those who were friends with anyone injured at the scene would obviously remain biased towards the site against Nikolai and could keep out any information that didn't get caught on the phone recording. So, with that, lace it Nikolai himself down and prepare to confront Nikolai on the piles of evidence they've raked up against him, and determine whether or not all of these stories are true. And I understand you're married to Sandy.

Yeah. She's okay. She is. Yeah, she, I did talk to her. I talked to for quite a while. I brought her to get her dry clothes. Who is she? She is with Ernesto and Amy.

Pinky. My puppy. She's headed home to take care of the dog. I would like to ask you questions about your day today, what happened, you know, like, how you guys got to be on the Apple River today, and then, like, what your day was like. All I can say, it was self-defense. Self-defense are a lot of people on that came on to me. Self-defense, they produced two weapons, one I took from them. This would be the start of Nikolai's string of lies during this interview. Nikolai did bring the knife he used to stab the victims.

He brought it specifically so he could cut rope while on the river. After the stabbings, Nikolai threw the knife into the river, which was later retrieved. That's the only thing I can tell. And they were, they hit me, and they were on top of me, and I don't remember anything after that. I just remember I ran away. I ran away to my group. There were actually people coming over from my group to see what was going on. I said, nothing, nothing, nothing.

And they kept asking, and I said nothing, nothing. I didn't explain to them anything, because I was so. fearful i didn't know what these people were doing to us i've never been in a situation like this where people produce weapons and they were saying you're calling um don't i don't i don't remember but they said don't run or don't run from us don't do this uh you're a you're at this, you get people drunk or you're a one thing I remember in my mind that if I'm a should you be drinking should you be drinking alcohol

and doing what you're doing to people that you don't even know attacking them and I said if it's on a you should be having alcohol you know and they took my I was snorkeling so They took my snow, all away, they threw it in the water. They grabbed my pants. One wanted to pull my pants down, and I grabbed onto him. And I don't know who that kid was, but he produced.

He had a knife on him. And then there was another knife, a longer knife, it looked like a kitchen knife. This is true. There was, in fact, an additional knife at the scene. It's unclear if that knife was pulled out at any point during the altercation, but at no point was the knife used to stab anyone. And I don't know why I have to read one of them. I just know that I, when the kid attacked me, I took that from him.

The kitchen knife or the other day? No, the smaller land. Okay, what did that knife look like? Do you remember? I don't even remember. But it was smaller? Smaller, yes. So, that's all.

How did you get to be by them? Who are you people? So I never lost his phone. The phone was in a floater. One of those bags? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone had one, but his phone was in a floater, so he said, well, let's go look for it.

So I put my snorkel on and I looked and this guy stopped something. And they were talking about it. And I said, okay. A group of people? These group of people? I went over and I said, did you guys find a home? And if you did, can I see it? Can I identify it?

And they started calling me names. They got out of their tubes. They came at me. I said, all I need. And they were calling me all kinds of names, insulting me, for being in the water with a snorkel. And I said, all I want guys, did you find me? Did you find the phone?

And I thought they had found something. It seems rather ridiculous that Nick would be called such specific things. If, he confronted them as kindly as he says he did, it's very clear he's leaving something out of his story. Keep in mind at this point, Nick has no idea the entire altercation was recorded, so he likely thinks these stories being completely innocent seem plausible. And we're looking desperately to find this phone. And I know somebody found it, but I thought it was that group.

they came to me and they grabbed my snorkel and they threw it in the water. Well, the water was so fast, they went under. So I went out after, and they started, another group of mostly girls came over from the other side, yelling at me or calling me, something like that. And I went back. I actually after the distance to them, I didn't even, I didn't even know what happened. Again, another flat-out lie. The phone recording clearly shows Nick was the initial aggressor.

when he started pushing the teens off their tubes. I just know that they attacked me, and I was in self-defense. I went into self-defense mode, and then I went over to my group of people. And they asked me what happened, and I wouldn't tell them. I said, I can't tell you. I let me calm down. I was shocked, so nobody on that knew exactly what happened. The only thing they said was, you know if somebody got in an argument over there,

I was like, yep, let's just leave that alone, don't go there. And I said, did you guys find something? And I thought they did. And I know they did because they're hiding something from me. And then I went over there and they grabbed my snow, they threw it down. They started, they got off their tubes. They came off to me. They pushed me.

One of them hit me. And then there was a girl that came from here and hit me in the back of my head. And I was about right there. You said right here? When she hit me, yeah. And that's when the female hit you? Yeah. I mean, I cared for my life.

Tell the truth, when they started hitting me and pointed a knife at me and then another kid pointed out of night, I thought that was it for me. Luckily, I took it from one of the young kids, and I think that's my son back. What could you do with it? I don't even know. Okay. I don't know. Absolutely.

I don't know. Nikolai's defense becomes extremely hard to believe when he constantly lies about the incident. Again, the knife used was his. He did not take it from anyone, he pulled it from his own pocket, and used it to stab five people. He threw it into the lake in the hopes he could cover the incident up completely. Proof of this is in his talks with police while being arrested, where he pretended he wasn't even near the scene of the crime. I don't know if you got it back, I have absolutely no idea. Did you hit him? Like, did the knife make contact with him? that i don't remember you're so close and one had it in his hand so i took his hand and i bent it

and i poked him with with his own hand and then i took it from his hand and then i went in swinging like this so i don't know who i hit i just know i just know that i took the knife from from one of the kids the other one i don't know what happened to you i didn't get hit um did you have a knife no no absolutely okay but you have a lick you today right A nice, how did that? I think it's in my car. Okay. Yeah.

Did you drive or did Sammy drive? I did. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I don't even know where it's at the truth. It may be in one of the bags we had with us. It may have been in, I don't know.

Maybe I left it, put it back in the car. Because I went back with a bunch of, I had stress. I didn't want to pay for string. But they say string is a sheet. You want to eat. If they told me, they said, they had a GIF straps, there was a kid over there. If you have straps, no problem, but the string is free. So I said, okay, I'll pick the string.

Okay. And then I took the straps back, so if the straps can puncture it. Yeah. So I took, I had a whole bag of straps that I took back to my car. Okay. And so maybe the knife was the strap? Uh, probably. Do you have any cups or marks on you?

Have you had a chance to, like, look at your, to, like, look at your torso or... Somebody was telling me that I'm bleeding from my ear, from my left ear. Who told you that? Oh, I think it was... Amy. It said, make you're bleeding from your left ear. I'm on like this, and I went in the water, I clean. I don't see any...

I really, I don't know if you see any cuts, but I don't... I don't know where I was bleeding from my ear. This is a smart tactic used by the detective. By getting Nick to confirm he had no injuries, The prosecution can use this as evidence to rule out self-defense. Nick claims Amy told him his ear was bleeding, but says himself that he didn't notice any blood. In addition, it takes him seconds to recall who told him his ear was bleeding, meaning he could have just made this scenario up altogether.

Um, but Amy saw blood? I think she says you're bleeding from your ear, Nick. And then I cleaned and I said, Look, there is nothing. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if it was blood or it was weed.

She saw, I have no idea. We were like, she was on the other side and I was just. Yeah, so she's over here, right? She's over here, yeah, right here. Oh, so she's close to Amy's over here, closer to the store? Yeah. Okay. With that nest up right here.

And I was over here somewhere in one of these. Okay. And you got back in that tube then? Yeah, got back in my own tube, yes. Notice how Nick feels the need to provide a detailed description on this claim from Amy, but not for anything else. This is a common defense mechanism used by someone lying. When they feel as though their claims aren't being taken as truth,

they try and depict the scenario, in as much detail as possible, to make it seem more authentic. Okay, so you took the smaller knife? From one of them. And is that the one that you said that you kind of went? Yes. Oh, I was going like this. I want it out. You were cutting and they were punching me, and they were serving.

me and they came really close, they were pushing me in the water. I didn't even know if I was holding it right, I just grabbed it from me because he tried to poke me with it. I feared for my life. Sounds like you. I was very shocked. I was extremely shocked. Is this you? Yes. What do you think was happening at that time? They were fighting me.

They pointed the knife at you. They pointed the knife at you. Nick thinks this photo will actually help his case, but he's in for a rude awakening. Did you see anyone take this picture of you? No. God, no. I was, I was at him. No, I was actually very, very scared. I was very scared. I didn't know what to think.

I didn't know what they're doing. Why? I mean, I understand. They were drunk, but you get drunk, I get drunk. We all get drunk. We don't do that kind of stuff, especially on a family, a river like fish, family outing. We don't do that kind of stuff. You see, I was very, very scared.

I didn't know what was going to happen next. So why happened? Can you tell me what happened? Not a very people went to the hospital with injuries. Oh, my God. And one person died. Oh, no. Not a very remorseful reaction for someone who's just learned he killed someone and injured for others.

It's almost like he fully knew that he critically injured multiple people. I don't know any of their names and I don't know any genders. Was that because they fought each other or is that the... No. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what they're injured. are. I just, I was with Sandy the whole time. And then when I kind of turned Sandy over to so on Amy, then I came here. So I, I have no idea what their injuries were. Oh my God. What other pictures did they give you or me? Just that one. That's the only one I have. No, my whole right, the dangle two.

I don't know if that's the case, because people have the right to defend themselves. I know, but this is Wisconsin. This is Wisconsin. Okay. We continue on. I usually know that people that defend themselves, they end up being accused of being this and being there. Well, I think if you'd ask me what I would have done, I don't know. Yeah, you don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I would have been scared shitless. I can tell you that. You want that damn many people had tried to pull your pants down and hit you and, yeah. And two boys had knives on them. They didn't find any of those two nights? I don't know. I don't know.

But we're looking. And, you know, we're looking before I get the dark out. I'm glad I actually took that kid's knife. He would have stabbed me. He was not there to scare me. He was there to harm me. Again, notice how every time a knife gets brought up, Nick feels the need to a elaborately explained that he took the knife, and whoever had it, was trying to hurt him.

This is all a deflection tactic to try and make his lie seem less suspicious. Nick would take blood vitals and the interview would conclude, but notice his difference in tone between the start and the end of the interrogation. Clearly, he feels like something went wrong, and those emotions would carry directly into his trial, which would go on for nearly two weeks. The trial began with opening statements, followed by witness testimonies from those present at the crime. These were a complete mess, and honestly made the prosecution's story seem a whole lot less credible.

Take Larian, for example, who told a completely different story from what he told officers during his police interview. So what you've provided to the state in terms of what you say you observed, there's much more than that. True? Yes. So you give two statements, one about 11 days after the incident, 12 days, and 1, 21 months after the incident. Which memory in terms of the dates when you give those statements is one better than the other? If I said to you, memories normally better closer in time to an event, would you agree with that? Yes.

All right. I remember he had a hat on. He looked like he wasn't supposed to be in the water. Like he just came out of, he came out of the bushes. Do you remember that? Yeah. So is it your testimony today, under oath, that the person involved in this incident had a hat on and came out of the bushes? No. You told the police?

I told them that, yes, but I don't, but I don't, like you said, it could be foggy. I don't think that's what it was no more, though. Were you intentionally lying to the police? No. This is the interview the lawyer is referring to. The guy with the knife, he recalled he looked like. Not too heavy said, but he was like an older man. He was an older man. I can't really remember, like, with his hair or anything.

I'll just be making something up. I don't really remember. But I remember he had a hat on. He looked like he wasn't supposed to be in the water. Like he just came out of the bushes. Next thing you know, he gets to walk it in the water. And they're like they're going to fight or something. The dude in the water swung on him. And he pulled out the knife and got to stabbing him.

Obvious lies like this work against the purpose of his witness testimony and make everything the prosecution says less credible. Generally speaking, this goes to show how unreliable witness statements can be. Larian's recollection of Nick's appearance wasn't even remotely close, yet he was fully confident in those claims. Besides Larian getting outed, the witness testimonies clearly showed the jury, all the evidence shown so far in this video, and every factual piece of evidence that could be used against Nick. They claimed the teen's actions towards Nick did not justify the use of deadly force and should not be considered as self-defense. To further prove this, they presented autopsy reports showcasing just how severe some of the injuries inflicted by Nick actually were.

Did you complete an internal examination of Isaac's body? Yes. Can you summarize the results of your internal examination of Isaac's body? Sure. At Capital One, we're more than just a credit card company. We're people just like you who believe in the power of yes. Yes to new opportunities. Yes to second chances.

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continues and go to the left lung. He had a blood in his left chest cavity. I recovered 200 cubic centimeters. It's approximately in glass of the blood. This would wrap up the prosecution's case and allow for Nick to take the stand. Nick would detail essentially the same story as in his interview claiming that he was searching for a lost cell phone in the river when he was confronted by a group of people. He felt threatened and panicked when they surrounded him, leading him to use the knife in self-defense. The jury deliberations would begin on July 20, 2003, and on July 21st, they would return a unanimous verdict, finding Nikolai guilty, a first-degree intentional homicide, with four counts of attempted first-degree intentional homicide. Nikolai had lost. This result was

met with mixed reactions from the public. On one hand, it was clear that Nick's actions were extreme, and it was certainly not necessary to use that degree of force against the teens. However, he was ganged up on 13 to 1 precisely. In the moment, many felt his response was justified, and the teens put him in a scenario to fight for his life. On the contrary, those who watched all the evidence in court, aka all the footage shown in this video, realized Nikolai was lying through his teeth the entire time and clearly felt he was guilty to some degree.

However, public opinion is irrelevant in the court of law, and the jury gets the final say, determining he was a cold-blooded killer. The day of July 30, 2022, Nikolai would be sentenced shortly after to life in prison. This was his raw reaction. Taking life and endangering the lives of others are two crimes that warrant significant punishment. For count one, I will impose a term of initial confinement of 20 years, followed by six years' of extended supervision, five years initial confinement followed by five years of extended supervision, five years of initial confinement followed by five years of extended supervision, six years of initial confinement followed by five years of extended supervision.

Count six, Madison Cohen, 270 days of jail.