Dr. Insanity - Teens Accidentally Run Into Secret Cult's Body Dump

Episode Date: July 19, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:31 This group of teenagers are in the middle of exploring an abandoned building in Michigan. Just a few feet away from them is something they were never meant to see. You want me to get close up for you? When police arrived to investigate, they discover this killing might be part of something far darker, with ritualistic clues pointing to a murder orchestrated by a cult. And as detectives begin closing in on its members and turning them on each other, they discover that this may not have been the cult's first victim. Richie told it speak that they wanted to kill right after getting married. There's like a gang or something?
Starting point is 00:01:33 No, it wasn't a gang. Steve called it a family. I know you do say it over I heard, right? 16? I've killed 16 people. He's killed 16 people is what I said. It's a late Thursday evening in Monroe County, Michigan, when seven high school students decide to explore an abandoned juvenile detention center.
Starting point is 00:02:00 But the moment they step inside, they stumble upon something they were never meant to see and immediately start recording. I don't even know if I want to really get it. All right, so we see me, my thought. We seen the body. This is food. Is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Tell me, baby. I don't want to... I'm not looking either. Look. You want me to get close up for you? Hey, I love you. Hey, I love you. Here, moving.
Starting point is 00:02:39 What, am I moving? Hold up. Move the door. Kick that door up. Keep that door up. Upon seeing what appears to be the dead body of a young woman, the boys run back to their car and drive off. Despite knowingly trespassing, one of them calls a 911
Starting point is 00:03:16 and begins describing in detail the gruesome discovery they had just made inside. In the Middle County 911. What's the address of your emergency? Hi, so we were exploring an abandoned building and I think we found a dead body. Okay, what was the address? Right now we're at the Monroe Travel Center. Where was the address you're exploring? It's the old student center or like an old school or something.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You're pretty far away from Netto. Yeah, because we drove away and we didn't know what to do. Tell me exactly what happened. Like he moved a door that was on the ground, and underneath it there was his heart, and under his heart he fell foot. So we left and called... Can you give me a call when you get back to the truck, the pilot's on us? Yes. After directing the teens to a safe location, Michigan State Police are dispatched to Boysville,
Starting point is 00:04:04 an abandoned juvenile campus with dozens of rooms and corridors. Once officers arrive with no electricity and a potential homicide scene waiting inside, they draw their weapons, and prepare to move in. Just keep track of how many rooms, like, look at how many sections there are of the building, keep track of how many sections you think you're going through so you don't get lost. Yeah. One thing, so you three want to go first, me and the well and stay back? One room.
Starting point is 00:05:20 The deceased body the teens found earlier, but before officers can properly examine it, they have to clear the rest of the building and make sure they're the only ones inside. There's a series of rooms, multiple doors filled. Of clearing the building room by room, officers find no one else inside. With the building now cleared, officers returned to the victim and begin trying to identify her. Given the location, they initially assumed she may have been homeless and simply overdosed. But that assumption would quickly be turned upside down upon further inspection. But there was a time where people were coming in here on a regular base,
Starting point is 00:06:45 was like the haunted house type stuff you know like looking for ghosts and whatnot that's blood in her head like she got hit or her yeah well unless he's my suspect is on top and slams your head on the ground yeah it's not blood no it's like bronze or it's all over it's on her face or arms on her neck or shirt look at our legs are positioned shirt's pulled up print scanner out here a little bit. Yeah, I was like, mid-20s, 30s maybe?
Starting point is 00:07:24 I mean, it seemed like I am a local. It might be somebody a truck truck truck or picked up. As officers continue examining the body, they notice several unusual details. The victim is covered in an unfamiliar substance, surrounded by candles and across her
Starting point is 00:07:39 legs, are what appear to be scribbles and strange markings. While one officer moves to retrieve a portable fingerprint A print scanner, a few miles away, another group of officers makes contact with the teens who discovered the body. They're all shaken up, yet cooperative, handing over the video they recorded inside. And it quickly becomes clear to detectives that they're far more worried about a trespassing
Starting point is 00:08:03 charge than being tied to what happened to the victim. So they're eventually let go. Back at the abandoned property, the officer scans the victim's fingerprints and learns that She is, in fact, a local, 22-year-old, Kayla Siddowski. Moments later, paramedics arrive and examine the body, confirming two things. She's been here for some time, and the head injuries are consistent with three gunshot wounds. Sometime after midnight, officers lock down the rest of the building and return to the station, intent on resuming the investigation at first light.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And as the investigation would begin coming together, detectives would be. become convinced this is not only a homicide, but part of something far more disturbing, possibly even ritualistic. If you live with him and you leave and he finds out you leave, needless to say you're going to be the next. Steve said that she's screaming. Steve, help, Steve, help. Do you want to go see your dad?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Do you want to be with your mom? Yes. Or you want to f***le-live. The next morning, officers begin reviewing every available CCTV camera, in the area and after hours of combing through footage dating back two weeks, they finally spot her. On February 15th at around 10 p.m., Kayla is seen. This episode is brought to you by FIFA World Cup, launch edition on Netflix. It's a fast, fluid game where your phone is the controller and your TV is the stadium.
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Starting point is 00:10:29 their first suspect. That same afternoon, officers rushed to Stephen's house, but what they find is troubling to say the least. A note taped to the front door, stating that he and his wife, Nirina have left for their honeymoon. To investigators, the timing seems far too convenient, so they try calling him, but he never picks up. This is Stephen Bales, leave a message after the beat. A search warrant is requested, but in the meantime, there's little police can do, but wait, while Stephen and whoever else may be responsible remains free to roam the streets. Two weeks passed after the body is discovered, yet there's still no sign of Stephen.
Starting point is 00:11:20 But then, more than 100 miles away in Shelby, Ohio, police receive a 911 call they certainly aren't expecting, as 19-year-old Bryn Smith tells dispatchers someone is trying to kill him. And when Ohio officers go to meet him, they would unknowingly step into another state's investigation and give them an unexpected lead. Hello, what's going on? So I got you on the phone because you're a witness for me. So my cousin in Monroe, Michigan, this is my aunt, by the way, she knows like everything going on. She on FaceTime? Yeah, she's on FaceTime.
Starting point is 00:12:01 She's on, we can't really see it. I can't see it, okay. Grab. So he's wanted for murder right now in Monroe, Michigan, for the Kayla Sadowski death. And I was apparently wanted for it as well at some point, but I had left to him. his house today just ran away from him because like he never gives me he's like weird he'll keep you at his house he'll use your for your money do you have any idea on you i have nothing on me except my tablet my phone is socks why tell what i'm gonna do just because i don't know you i'm just
Starting point is 00:12:30 gonna pat you down that's if you have any niobs or anything on you no it's socks okay what's somebody patch you and do you live here no this is some strange funny call me so what's this cat's name c bales like i ran away from him like i ran i don't know how long i've been running i just ran away from him. We stopped at the gas station and I just went. Does that make sense? Like I stopped because like I lived with him and he won't let you leave his house when you're there. He's weird. He will hurt you. I have videos of the person that did it admitting to it. Oh, why I am? Because I lived with all of them in the house together like in a home bedroom and she was acting real funny one day so I had like
Starting point is 00:13:08 walked away and I called her on my own phone and I got videos of her. Why don't why don't we go out of the seat in the back of this officer's car on the other side? Okay? Yeah. As if the investigation wasn't complicated enough, Brin is accusing someone other than Stephen of being the killer and even refers to a group of people he and Steven had been living with. The problem is, these officers are from another state and know nothing about Kayla's murder, so they decide to take him to the station to get some clarity on the situation.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Upon arriving, officers contact Michigan State Police and That's when they are finally briefed on Kayla's murder investigation. More than anything, Michigan investigators are fixated on this alleged confession video, urging Ohio detectives to obtain it as quickly as possible. And once Bryn sits down for his interview, what he would go on to describe would sound to detectives almost as if he had just escaped a cult. Now you don't have to worry about me being killed. So, what was, and this gentleman,
Starting point is 00:14:15 that apparently killed this girl, what's his name? Steve. Well, I know who killed her. I have a video of remitting to it because we all lived in the same apartment together. There was a one-bedroom apartment that he owned, I mean his wife. He had like eight people living there.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I was one of them. And in order to live there, he took your food stamp card. He would take whatever cards you had and basically your money and everything was his. I did not agree to that. So he knew not to take from one. I just stayed there.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I slept on the couch I woke my head and I laid my head. So we're going down and he gets married through all this. Now, our ex becomes missing. So I was wondering, because you know. You say RX. Yeah, we both had dated the same woman. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So she becomes missing and everybody in the house starts acting weird. So I'm going to try to pull up this video of Caitlin, the one who supposedly Gilgail, admitting that she did it. Did you ever think about going to the Michigan authorities with this? I couldn't. Why? If you live with him and you leave and he finds out you leave and he finds you, basically needless to say you're going to be the next.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So if you live with him, you're not allowed to leave. He's basically a person who's going to get you in his house and is going to trap you in him. Keep you just for your money. To Detective Surprise, Brin seems unusually open and talkative for someone who believes, someone who believes he's being hunted. After all, there's no telling whether Stephen will come after him the moment this interview is over. At this point, investigators need to see this video Bryn can't stop talking about, but what they're about to see would be far more than Brin promised. So who do you think killed this girl? I know who killed her. I got the video right here to show you.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Okay, well, let's see it, my man. You can obviously tell I was shocked as hell. I know you didn't say the number I heard, right? 16? He's killed 16 people is what I said. In UCA, I've never been to jail for it. In UCI have never been a jail for it. And now I have one more video of her admitting that I was the killer of Kayla, basically. She threatened my son. She threatened my son.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So that conversation that I watched, she said that she did it because she threatened her son. Yeah. Now, do you know some more information about that? No, that's all I know. I don't know church. Apparently she threatened her son at church. That's the most I know of that. And she, how'd she kill her?
Starting point is 00:16:59 She said that. She shot her twice on the video. Wow. She even said that she threw the gun in the river. What river? If I know. The woman in the video is 33-year-old Kailen Ramsey, seemingly implying that she was responsible not only for Kaila's death,
Starting point is 00:17:16 but for 15 other murders as well. It's a chilling claim that investigators would have no choice but to look into, especially coming from someone they would later connect to a deadly cult. After several more hours of questioning, Brin is eventually released and told to notify investigators of any contact from Stephen or Kalen, unaware that the man they've just let go may not be as innocent as he claims. Later that evening, investigators call Kalin and are surprised. to learn that she's also in Ohio, so they ask her to come to the station the following day
Starting point is 00:17:54 to assist with the investigation, withholding the real reason they want to speak with her. And, interestingly, she agrees, almost as if she already has a plan to outsmart the detectives. The next morning, Kaylin arrives at the Huron County Sheriff's Office in Ohio, and alongside her is her lawyer. But as she's escorted to the interrogation room, there's a surprise waiting for her. Detectives from the Michigan State, State Police, including lead investigator Detective Peterson, have traveled to Ohio for this very interview. And as Kailan's interview begins, her story would quickly start to unravel until she eventually
Starting point is 00:18:32 slips up and says something she was never supposed to know. We're going to be asking you a lot of questions. A lot of these questions we already know the answer to. So you know I don't play games, you know that? We went and got him to make sure you had him here. Right? That's important that I want to make sure you have him here. sure you feel comfortable. Break your life on a scale for one of ten one is the worst life ever
Starting point is 00:18:54 tenets the best life ever. Right now it's a one. But after hopefully today it'll be a time. Okay. So what's going wrong right now? Me living my life in fear. And why are you living in fear? Because of those guys see you in bail. Okay, why are you so afraid to meet him in Bales? He's threatened my life. Okay, how do he threaten to kill me? Okay. Do you threaten to kill me? Okay. Do you know Kayla Sadowski? I knew of her. She was one of my friends at one point until I moved out here for years ago and lost contact. Tell me about her. Tell me about Kayla.
Starting point is 00:19:30 She was such a sweetheart. Oh my God. She even loved my youngest son. She was a sweetheart. She was just like me. Outgoing, way back, calm, skipper shirt off her back. You've ever needed it more than her. Her and I were a lot of like. Was she easy to get along with them? Oh yeah, she was very easy to get along with. Such a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Okay, did you have any conflict with her ever? No. I've never had a conflict with her at all whatsoever. Was there a time where, recently where she accused you of hitting with her belt? No. Not that I'm aware of. You had something I would never do.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I don't have a mean bone in my body. Understand. Anyone you talked to about you will tell you I'm such a sweetheart. Okay, I believe it. Last contact I had with her was just shortly before whatever happened to her, and it kills me. I had just talked to her about maybe the day before or maybe a few days before she had passed at the grocery store. Okay. When was that? Around Valentine's Day.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Here, Kalen seemingly places the murder around Valentine's Day. nearly two weeks before Kayla's body was discovered. To investigators, this appears to be a major slip-up as the precise date of the murder has never been publicly released. The detective, however, refrains from... Visit BetMGMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick. BetMDM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly, 19 plus to wager.
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Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm not making this up. I'm not here to trick you. we have a video of you saying that you were the one that killed her. No. I would never kill anybody. I'm a sweetheart. I would never hurt anybody. That's why I take the time to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So there's five videos. Let's go through them all if you want to make sure they... Unless they're trying to tend to this on me that I had nothing to do with. Well, let's watch these and I want to talk to you because I don't want, let's just... How many? I know you can say the number I heard, right? 16? I was all forced. They forced me to say a lot of them all and then I want to hear how'd you get there, how do you get hurt there? See you clearly tell they're trying to
Starting point is 00:22:23 set me in. What do you want to tell me to do? Obviously I want your side to that, right? That's why we're here. So what is your side to that? My side to it is I had nothing to do with Caitlin's back. Because you can really help us, okay? And in turn, I don't make guarantees, but there's a chance you might help yourself, but I want to make something clear. We know when Kayla died, okay? And we also know that we have a video of you with Steve, okay, and Narina, very short time after her death together at a party. I do not think you're the mastermind.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I think that there's a lot of influence by Steve. There's no doubt there's a lot of influence by Steve. You want to talk to me again? I think I'm done for today. Okay. My stress level is getting too late. and slowly making me sick. After being shown the video,
Starting point is 00:23:23 Kaelin does exactly what investigators feared most. She ends the interview before giving them enough probable cause to detain her, and so she's released. The following day, detectives finally get their first lucky break. The search warrant for Stephen's apartment is approved. Wasting no time,
Starting point is 00:23:45 Michigan officers rush back to his residence, hoping to find answers to Kian, murder and perhaps a clue as to where Stephen may have fled. Upon entering the cramped one-bedroom apartment, deputies are stunned to find evidence that at least seven people had been living here, and things would only get stranger from here. Throughout the apartment, officers notice a recurring theme, the Grim Reaper. Stephen had adopted the name Grim, labeling many of his belongings with it. Inside a journal, deputies discover that he referred to his wife, Norena,
Starting point is 00:24:18 an arena as Lady Death. The group even had its own name, The Reapers. At this point, investigators begin to suspect they're not dealing with a group of friends, or even a gang, but a full-blown cult. As the search unfolds, investigators back at the station begin monitoring Stevens' online activity, and before long, a Facebook photo stops them in their tracks. The image was taken during Stephen's wedding on February 14th, Valentine's, Day, police immediately recognized Stephen, his wife, Noreena, Bryn, and Kalyn. But the remaining four people are complete unknowns to the investigators, and detectives suspect they may also have been involved in the homicide.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Steven's mother is quickly rolled out, along with a family friend who appears to have little connection to the group. But the same can't be said for the remaining two, Alex Fico and Sierra Bemis. two people Stephen has taken under his wing. That same afternoon, Detective Peterson calls them both and asks them to come to the station. And as Detective Peterson prepares to interview them, he needs to answer two critical questions. What is their connection to Stephen and where does their loyalty to him end? Tell me about your relationship with Steve Bales. He was a good father, kind of.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Didn't really get along. Father Kanda, what didn't you get along with him for? Because he always wanted to take my money and use my food stamps. Did you let him? I gave him my card and he never gave it back. I want you tell me everything you can, everything you know about the death of Caleb Statsky. Everything I know. All right, so, see Bales. I met him at Bouchemies Pizzeria, Monroe Street.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I was real strong out. strung out one day and drunk at the same time and got two things by the hands looked me dead in my eye and told me that I could get over it you know you've got a good guy yeah so a very firm handshake and it felt brotherly it felt like he was expressing love towards me they made me feel good for like being sober and not Drinking. That was nice of them actually. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Was there anything good about Steve? No. No. Because you described me as a good father, so there was nothing good about that? No, not really. Okay. Do you think he used you? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Okay. Interestingly, Sierra struggles to find a single good thing to say about Stephen. Yet, both she and Alex still consider him family. Like many manipulative leaders, Stephen targeted Vulnerable. Stephen targeted vulnerable people at their lowest, offering them support, housing, and a sense of belonging. Over time, that trust turned into control, with members handing over their income and providing for him financially. But Stephen's influence extended far beyond money and into violence, as Detective Peterson is about to learn. So when was the night that Kayla got murdered?
Starting point is 00:27:38 I believe it was the night of their wedding. Like, they just crazily went out and, you know, that was their rich, so to speak, that they wanted to kill right after getting married. Caitlin, Kay, the one who, she did the killing. She said she did the killing. So, Kelin and Kaelin didn't get along. Why not? Because they were sorry, he's fighting over his team. So were Kay Lynn and Steve, were they romantically involved?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yes. Okay. And Kayla and Steve were romantically involved. Yes. And so Kay Lynn, you're saying, I don't want to put words your mouth, was jealous of Kayla. Yes. Was Steve planning this at the wedding? Not like sit down saying, we're doing this, this, this, this, and I'm doing this.
Starting point is 00:28:36 No. So, um, based on what you can tell, you, do you think Steve helped plan this? Yeah, I think Steve planned it all. He said that she's got to go. As the interviews continue, Detective Peterson learns that Stephen was involved with three women at once, his wife, Noreena, Kalin, and Kayla. With tensions between Kalin and Kayla escalating for months, detective suspect Stephen was deliberately fueling his.
Starting point is 00:29:06 rivalry for his own benefit. But Detective Peterson would soon learn that Stephen wasn't the only man in the house, exploiting the women. As Alex's and Sierra's interviews are unfolding, detectives decide to give Bryn a call and ask him to come to the station. After being the first to expose Kalin and appearing in Stephen's wedding photos, Peterson is convinced he must know more about the murder than he initially admitted. And as he sits down for his interview, investigators are about to discover that Brin played a role as well. One, he conveniently failed to mention, the first time around. Because I know you guys have camel footage of me driving.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I know you guys got the footage from why I picked her up. I'm not stupid. Exactly. And where did you pick her up at? At the corner store. You just pick up her, you alone, or you would tell anybody else? Oh, no. There was someone else in the car.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Who was with you? Steve. So what was the conversation that led you picking her up? Hey, where are you? What are you doing? Uh, nothing off of work. Off of work, what are you doing? Nothing, you want to hang out for a few? Well, there was Steve's chance
Starting point is 00:30:11 because you knew I was talking to her. Yeah, you better do that. Okay, so does she think, and I'm not sure, does she think that you guys are dating again at this point on February 16th? Yeah, same, because she called me babe at one point. Okay, so what makes you think that she's now,
Starting point is 00:30:27 what makes you think she's now, she believes that you two are together as a couple? Because she called me babe for like three times didn't say anything but the fourth time I said something about it. So before you picked her up on February 15th or 16th in the black car with Steve hiding in the backseat, if I got anything wrong, correct me. I'd just like to kick it back out so we're on the same page. When was the last communication you had before that?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Was there any communication that made her think that you guys were together as a couple? Any, like, pillow talk type of stuff? The most I can think that she'd think we were together is when I said, I love you. You're a really good friend of mine. and I said that on Valentine's Day because she called me and said, I got chocolate for you. Although Brin insists he was simply following Stephen's orders,
Starting point is 00:31:14 what he doesn't realize is that detectives have already recovered his text messages with Kayla, telling a very different story. For weeks, Brin had been romantically speaking with Kayla online. In fact, just days before her death, she had saved his number in her phone as boyfriend. And now detectives would begin, looking at Bryn, Sierra, and Alex side by side, comparing their stories and exposing contradictions.
Starting point is 00:31:42 With pressure mounting and the possibility of prison looming over them, the Reapers are moments away from turning on one another, shattering the loyalty Stephen spent years building. Okay, you were there and she shot. But I didn't pull the trigger, nor did I go in the building. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Exactly. So I was a driver threatened by my life. Do you want to go see your f***ing dad? Do you want to be with your mom? Yes. Or you want to f-f-li- Save the line. This is exactly what I was told.
Starting point is 00:32:10 The lie is more important. She said the third shot, she put it to her head. Steve said that she's screaming. Steve, Steve, help, Steve helped. And then Bryn specifically said, drop that bitch. Oh.
Starting point is 00:32:29 This gun, I had possession of it at one point in time. That's how my DNA was. be on it. They said somebody's threatening them. That's how they manipulated me. It said somebody was threatening them that, you know, they need a protection. Can we get that gun back? And then they came out when we all left it with him. Okay, what was said in the car when they all came out? That she's finally dead. Who said that?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Steve. We said. Steve and Kaylin. They told me how they killed her. Okay, what did they tell you? They said they were talking about her and Kaylan just shot her in the back of her head. Kaylin shot her in the back of the head. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And who was talking to her? Steve. Okay. As you see it. You have the same green pocketknit? Yeah. Why do you guys all have green pocketknit? Well, we also had green band-a-dain.
Starting point is 00:33:25 What? It's like a gang or something? No, it wasn't a gang. Steve called it a family. Although multiple members of the Reapers identify Kailen, identify Kalyn as the shooter, they consistently point detectives back to the same person as the mastermind. Stephen. The picture detectives begin to piece together is this. Brin tricked Kayla and lured her to Boysville. Alex supplied the gun, Kalin pulled the trigger, and Stephen
Starting point is 00:33:52 watched it all unfold without ever getting his hands dirty. With this, Alex, Bryn and Sierra's interviews come to an end, as all three are placed under arrest, while, a nationwide bolo is issued for Stephen and Arena. And while the couple believes they've managed to disappear for good, even the most brilliant masterminds eventually make a mistake, and they are no exception. Over the next several weeks, authorities chase lead after lead until they finally pick up Stevens' trail. Bank surveillance cameras capture Stephen and Arena on CCTV, and before long, investigators track the couple more than 700 miles from Michigan to a relative's home in New Hanover County, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:34:40 A SWAT team is called in and the house is quickly surrounded. But despite repeated commands to come outside, Stephen refuses to surrender, barricading himself inside and preparing for his final stand. Hours pass with little progress, forcing officers to deploy tear gas that finally drives the couple out of the house. More than six weeks after the murder, Stephen and Norena are taken. taken into custody and transported into the new Hanover County Sheriff's Office. At this point, detectives know a lot, but not everything.
Starting point is 00:35:15 They still need to determine whether Stephen orchestrated Kayla's murder or if the Reapers acted on their own. And with investigators believing they're dealing with a dangerous cult, they can't rule out the possibility that there are other victims still waiting to be found, perhaps even the 15 other murders Kaylan claimed to have committed. At the station, Stephen and Noreena are separated and placed into different interview rooms, and Detective Peterson decides to begin with Noreena. If he can get Steven's own wife to start talking, it will become much harder for Stephen
Starting point is 00:35:48 to maintain whatever story he's prepared. Do you know Kayla Saddowski? I do. Okay. Tell me about her. She's a good friend. Did you have any conflicts with her? No.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Were you jealous of her all? No. Was she romanticly involved with Steve before you? so you didn't have any jealousy or anything like that about her. So they once pick her up, you stayed at the apartments, but you knew at that point that they were going to pick up haley killer. Yeah, I knew that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:20 At that point, and just like curious, any reason you didn't call the police? I didn't ask her on the police. Any reason you didn't? No. Okay. They came back. They told me that they were going to go back the next day. to go get put santa lotion on her,
Starting point is 00:36:40 body lotion on her, perfume, whatever they can find they had not had the smell in her. That the after the felt like the smell. They'd have everything over her to come without smell of her. Steve said the reason why I killed her because she put me in prison for two years. What did he say about what they just know? He didn't say much, but he didn't say much.
Starting point is 00:37:09 No. But was he organizing this whole thing? Was he the one kind of controlling it and telling people to do this? Yeah. Against detective's expectations, even Stephen's own wife is telling them that he's the one behind it. With that, Norena's interview is wrapped up and there's only one more person Detective Peterson needs to speak with. As Steven sits in the interrogation room, he has has no idea that the people he spent years controlling, including his own wife, have already
Starting point is 00:37:40 turned against him. But going into this interview, Detective Peterson faces a challenge. Upon hearing of Stephen's arrest, his mother has already requested an attorney who is now on the way to the station. And so the clock is ticking. Detectives need to extract the truth from Stephen before the lawyer arrives and shuts the interview down. I'll answer some questions.
Starting point is 00:38:02 whatever you guys got the best as I know but my mom says she's going to try to do everything she can to get me a lawyer and everything so do you is that you want to answer her questions uh but i can stop anytime you can't even you don't say that's my ex-girlfriend we've me and her had passed for years and tell me about i miss that girl but she's just she's a handful she's like in her we always argued all the time about what Just anything. Like, she'd get jealous if I'm talking to somebody. Like, if I'm talking to a cousin as a female,
Starting point is 00:38:39 she would think I'm cheating on her. And then she would threaten me, like, she was going to kill me. She pulled a gun out on me and Brian. Were you upset with her specifically about, say, did you blame her for going to prison or anything like that? No, because you want to know the funny thing about that? Mm-hmm. She put me in prison for a year.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I said that, um, I choked her, that I slammed her against the wall. She lied because I was messing with her sister at the time. So you were not involved in the planning and execution of Kayla's death? No, I was not. Was Bryn involved? He was with me at the time. One time he wasn't with me, no, but he came down.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, because he drove with him. And when you used to use with me at the time, at what time? When we were born on our honeymoons and when we went to South Carolina. Okay, so... So, no. So what was that? when she was killed? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Well, you brought it up, I'm just curious. You said that he was with me at the time. What do you mean? Oh, like when I was going down in South Carolina and Florida. Right, what was that? No, was Kayla's death? Oh, I don't know anything about that. In an attempt to deflect blame from Bryn,
Starting point is 00:39:51 Stephen just revealed he was with him at the time of Kayla's murder. But there's a problem. Kayla's time of death was never made public. And just like Kalyn, Stephen has unknowingly implicated himself. In Stephen's mind, Kalin is the one who pulled the trigger, which makes him innocent. But detectives see it very differently. They view Stephen the way prosecutors often view notorious cult leaders like Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:40:20 The person who pulls the trigger isn't always the most responsible. Under the law, the person who plans a killing can be just as, if not more, culpable than the one who carries an accident. seeing that Stephen refuses to tell the truth, Detective Peterson decides to push harder and reveal damning evidence Stephen can't talk his way out of. But this strategy is about to backfire. All right, so have you ever been to the Old Boysville facility? One time. When was that?
Starting point is 00:40:50 That was many, many, many years ago when it was open. Remember when we started talking, right? Yeah. I told you, I know everything about you, Steve. I know everything about, I know more about your wife and your Bryn and yourself probably than you do. So, and I'm going to ask you straight up, is there any reason, or I should say, would it surprise you to know, that we have a Facebook conversation between you and Bryn at Boysville that night? No, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:25 You know. I guarantee we do. Well, this is where I need my lawyer then. In Toronto, every arrival is a statement, and nothing says it better than this. Cadillac Optic was the number one selling luxury EV in Canada for 2025. Find your rhythm across a seamless 33-inch display and an immersive 19-speaker AKG surround audio system. This city demands agility, and Optic delivers with precision to make every drive extraordinary. Let's take the Cadillac.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Find out more at Cadillac Canada.ca. Luxury sales claim based on S&P Global Mobility Canadian New Vehicle Total Registrations for calendar year 2025 for the Cadillac Definition of luxury. Okay. Sounds good. Because I know that's a lie. Oh, it's a guarantee. You'll see it. It's not a lie. The only thing that's been a lie is what you've been telling me since we said now. Understand we've talked to you. Everything I just said was a lie. I need a lawyer. Okay. That's fine. Because I just told you everything by play, by play, what happened. Okay. Just know this. The fellowship you have is broken up. Everyone's talking, including your wife, we spoke in an arena, we know everything. And I mean everything.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So it's up to you if you want to talk, you said you want to talk to your lawyer. I'll let you have your lawyer, but this will not help you. Okay? Any questions for me? No, sweet. Okay. The moment detectives confronts Stephen with evidence placing him at the crime scene, he's caught off guard and completely shuts down. And now, even without him, even without Stephen's confession, investigators are able to piece together what happened to Kayla that night.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Stephen orchestrated the attack, recruited the others to carry it out, and later returned to conceal her body before fleeing the state. Kalen was the attacker. She participated in the assault and ultimately fired the shot that killed Kayla. Bryn was the lure. Posing as her boyfriend for weeks, he gained Kayla's trust and convinced her to meet him, ultimately driving her directly to her death. Bring her with you too.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I'm sleeping in a tent underneath the bridge, by myself. Send me location. I got Kayla. She's in my hands now. She fell right in my trap. L.O.L. Dude, I can't find the gym. I hear you. You getting closer. Clear. Sierra acted as part of the ambush team waiting for Kayla,
Starting point is 00:43:54 serving his lookout as the murder unfolded. Norena never went to Boysville that night. Instead, she stayed at the apartment monitoring a police scanner, ready to warn the group if law enforcement was approaching, and Alex supplied the firearm, later retrieving it and helping conceal the evidence afterwards. In the end, none of the reapers would escape accountability. Alex pleads guilty to tampering with evidence and accessory charges,
Starting point is 00:44:20 receiving a sentence of five to ten years in prison. Norena receives 13 and a half to 30 years, while Sierra is sentenced to 18 and a half to 30 years after both pled no contests to second-degree murder. Brin and Kalin each plead no contest to second-degree murder and are sentenced to 40 to 60 years in prison. And Stephen Bales is convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder, receiving life without parole, along with a second life sentence with the possibility of parole. As for Kalin's claims that she had murdered 16 people, detects, were unable to connect her to any other killings, leading them to believe the confession
Starting point is 00:45:01 was fabricated under pressure by Stephen and Bryn. Even so, investigators are still looking, because there's no way of knowing whether Kayla was their first victim or simply the first one to be found. And while this case left Michigan shaken by a deadly cult no one knew existed, our next case takes us to a place where violence and gang activity lurk around every corner. These are the members of one of the most infamous gangs in Washington, and in just a few moments, these two seemingly innocent teenagers are about to become their targets. By the time police arrive at the scene, it's already too late. Determined to stop the bloodshed once and for all, investigators embark on a dangerous mission to infiltrate the gang, turn its members against each other, and ultimately destroy it from within.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Me, snitch, that will happen. My name is Peter Parker, but I'm also... Spider-Man. This July... We're faced with a threat. I can be anyone. The world may have forgotten Peter Parker. I'm just a neighbor, friendly neighbor.
Starting point is 00:46:12 But he hasn't forgotten them. Sometimes Spider-Man has to do the hard thing. That's my responsibility. Talk to Banner? I didn't know you could get that big. Spider-Man, brand-new day. In theaters, July 31st. Anything?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah? You can be anonymous. I need to be careful. Probably a bunch of SSLs around here. Go up on you. Salga with your hands on the river! To watch this exclusive Doctor Insanity episode, along with three more episodes from our new Tooby series, click the link below and check it out now for free on Tooby.

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