Drama Queens - 23 Questions with Antwon Tanner

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

Simply put, Antwon is a ray of sunshine. The questions come fast and furious and he gives the most honest and wholesome answers. From the happiest moment of his life, to what scares him the most, to the state of the industry. Plus, Antwon's got details on a potential reboot that you need to hear! Will there be more Antwon in our future?!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. You guys, we are continuing with our best-of-the-best family reunion podcast episodes here, getting to know all of our friends in a deeper way. So excited about this next guest. I love him. I'm always happy when I see him. So smart and sweet. One of our favorite humans, one of the most supportive friends.

And, I mean, somebody who's just been showing us how it's done. for literal decades and still looks like a teenager. Like, what a legend. Folks, please welcome to the show, Antoine Tena. Yo, yo, yo. Hey. Listen to that voice. Hi, Daddy.

What up, sis? Twan, it's early. Thanks for waking up to hang out with us. I know it's early over there. Yeah, we was up last night with mom and pops. It was day 48th anniversary. Oh, babe. Yeah, so we was up with them.

What'd you guys do? Nothing. They got drunken with the sleep. You know, after 48 years, that's, you know, you've earned that. You don't have to show up for anybody else. Yeah, they went to. They had a good time, though, so that was cool. I love that.

Hey, listen, so we're doing something different on the podcast during this strike. And we would love to hear from you. you know, how the change in the business has affected your career and how you're supporting SAG-AFRA. You've been doing this longer than I have. What have you seen that's different in the industry over the last, you know, a couple decades? It's so easy to get in there. You think so? I think it's so easy. And I don't think like because like when we will first go to auditions, the best actor won the job, period. It wasn't about how many followers you had, what your social media status was, because

when you got to that audition, you had to be prepared to go in that room and read against so-and-so. And you got to deal with conversations in the audition area, and then, you know, people trying to throw you off your game, you're not focused, and you're going in the room. Oh, my God. That used to be the worst. Yeah. Remember people psyching you out and waiting?

Oh, my gosh. If I throw you off your game, then you got to go in that room and you got to actually fill the energy of the room, book the room. And now you could self-tape and you could fuck up 86 times and send the best place and they'll say, oh, that person is ready. And then when they get on set, then now you're shooting 86 takes because you didn't know. So it's like a difference. So I feel like the competition level has really dwindled down. And you could tell about the performances when you watch. When you watch the shows, you'd be like, oh, my God, he sounded like he read that off the paper.

So true. So it's like I don't think the quality level is there. And I think a lot of stuff is based on social media, like, likes. What is people actually looking at? Yeah, it's like you get famous first before you actually have to have any talent in a lot of ways. That's the thing. Super frustrating. One of the things that's also weird to me about the world of self-tapes is that,

we are now essentially responsible for being DPs and camera operators. And like people are made, and by the way, amazing ingenuity, right? People are making really creative tapes. Like I've seen some things where I'm like, wow. And then I'm also like, that's not my job. My job as an actor is to show up and work with a DP and an entire camera department and like set decorators and the pressure that's being put on. people to submit an interesting tape rather than just a good performance feels wild to me.

Well, pay me. Like, if I'm going to take six hours out of my day to set up lights, figure out how to get a camera operator to come into my house, find a reader that's really great, find us, you know, make sure I've got the sound right. Then I've got to get, after I've done taping, I've got to get on my computer and edit everything. Then I got to figure out how to upload it to the right thing. Like, it is, it is a serious job they're asking us to do in a lot of, and we're not getting paid for that. And the turnarounds, have you guys noticed how short the turnarounds have gotten? Like, I got asked to read for a project I was very excited about. And they wanted a tape from me the next afternoon. And it was 14 pages. Stop it right now. Heavy material. No,

you need to be paid for that. That's crazy. I was like, guys, I, I have, like, podcasts. I have shit to do. Like, I'm busy. My Google calendar is full. I could maybe do this next Tuesday, but they were like, yeah, but it's due tomorrow afternoon. And I was like, I think I have to say no, because for this director, who I really respect, I'm not going to submit a bad 14-page tape.

But also 14 pages, they know what they need within the first 30 seconds of watching that video. They know. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, it's so easy. It's so easy and it's watered down. That's why I'm like, damn, I'm like, but I know, I think I know what they're scared of because when you think about, when you think about it, it actually benefits the studio to be on strike because we don't get streaming. That's what we're fighting for.

At the beginning of the year, the studios are in complete debt because they have to shoot 100 pilots and they have to give everybody a budget for 100 pilots. Then they only pick up 50. Then they have to give them budgets for 10 episodes or 13 episodes or whatever. make any money until around October. So if the writers and the actors shut down and people are still watching shows and they don't see any new episodes, what do they do? They start watching other stuff. So streaming goes up. And when the streaming goes up, the studio gets paid. So they get out of debt. While we struggle, they get out of debt. And they just don't want to give us that 0.004%. But see, a lot of people don't understand what that means. That means if we're

only asking for that, that mean that these shares are being sold in the stock market. And if that stock ever makes it to one penny, that's $400 million. So even though the 0.004 don't sound like a lot, that's how much money that they don't want to share with us. And they make billions. They just don't want us to own a piece of it. So it's just like it actually benefits them to be on strike. But if the big boys are saying, hey, we the investors, even though you might make $2 billion after you get out of debt, we may lose that over here. But if we don't strike, then there's no opportunity even at all for us to be able to try and have some leverage and get in. Well, I think what's also very hard is we're talking

about an industry that's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Like film has been taken over by tech investors, former heads of electrical companies, people who don't make films. They don't make art. They're looking at the bottom line of a balance sheet. And so they're looking at the bottom line of a balance sheet. And so they're looking at dollars and acting like all of these dollars are simply amounts in a bank account and not dollars that are made on the backs of people. And it's really hard when they're going well, if we're making $19 billion a quarter, they're making record breaking profits, what we could do is we could compete with Netflix. So we could each launch a streaming service. Nobody asked for that. Nobody wants it.

it's too many apps, it's too many services, it's too many subscription fees, all the consumers are going, we don't actually want this. We just want to watch good TV and we want to see good movies. But these people, much like you see all these ding-dongs in the space race being like, well, I'm so rich, I should build a rocket? I'm like, should you maybe just give all your employees health care? Like what? Right. You know, these ding-dongs are like, well, look at what Netflix did. We want a Netflix. And it's like, but maybe you do. don't need a Netflix. And also, Netflix is this big profitable corporation theoretically, but they're taking a loss every year. So perhaps don't run your business model on that.

And so we as these workers and these artists, you know, our crews, our friends in this industry, the folks doing VFX and running sound production and all this stuff, we are making studios record breaking profits. They are taking the money we make and decide. to go launch a new company instead of sharing, to Antoine's point, 0.14% of the money we make for them with us. I think a lot of it's the psychology, though, of someone who is not creative, who's not on a set, who is not an artist, has no real concept of the work that we actually do. In fact, the last movie I shot, I was, right, the last movie I shot, I was told, in these words, you are a body that talks.

That's what I was told on set. Cool. So this is the psychology that we're dealing with. Just no concept of the work that we actually do, what we really bring to the table. It's like, oh, you're just a form that speaks. Disposable. Yeah, totally disposable.

It's crazy because I know you might get 27 checks and they like $3. You know, like, why would you even mail me and the stamp costs more than the actual check. Like, you know, you can't waste paper. You know, you put all this on one check. Like, and it literally happens. I see so many people posted.

And I thought I was the only one for so long. I'm like, damn, I got like 22 checks over here. And wife, you'd be like, how much is he? I'd be like, we can't go to lunch. Yeah. You're like, well, it's $8.14. So cool. Terrible.

But that strength money is a difference. It's a difference for us. And I know it because maybe about 15 years ago, I was meeting with a lot of people and trying to figure out how to like own a smaller studio. Because I noticed that when you have a smaller studio, they don't really compete with you. They just kind of join the,

if they see that you got some traction and you could get projects done for a cheaper price or you could do this. And the studios don't hate. They don't go, oh, no, he's competition. They'd be like, no, we'll put a little bit of money behind you, but we want a percentage of that. keep doing your thing because they don't they don't have the relationships that you have.

Yeah. So they're not able to shoot the projects at the the budget that you are able to shoot the projects because your friends are coming in helping you out and everybody else is going to charge the studio top dollars. So it's kind of a way that I look at and be like them, these guys are just, they're number guys. They don't, they don't really see everything behind the scenes. They just look at us and just say, oh, it's numbers.

the numbers don't make sense, then it probably is not good. And that's why they keep redoing shows like they keep giving tons of money to these kids to do Jersey shores and all of this because the influence and they don't, they're paying them to them. Well, now they're paying them really good, really good damn money. But in the eyes of what they're making, it's really bad. And now they're unionizing. I love that the unscripted kids are like, wait a tick. Wait a minute. And as a result of this strike, these two strikes with WGA and SAGAFRA, now the animators and the special effects guys are also unionizing, which is awesome.

So our hope is that we can continue to support people to unionize and to stand up for their rights and their worth. And in the meantime, we're going to provide this platform so that our family members from the shows that we've worked on get to talk about things they've never gotten to talk about before. Like, you are not a disposable person, Antoine. And so we want to ask you these 23 questions and learn as much about you as possible over the course of this episode. Yes. These are all things that you bring as you. You bring all this stuff with you when you go to create a character. This is exciting.

I'm so excited to dive in with you and learn more about you. I'm loving the gray hair, sis. I'm really loving the gray hair. Isn't it so good? It looks so good on you. I swear it looks so good on you. you. It's always been you and me, Tuan. We should have had that love story on Treyho. We were robbed. Damn. Okay, who wants to ask the first question? I'll go. Go, Joy.

Okay. Antoine, what is your idea of perfect happiness? Perfect happiness is financial freedom and be able to go do what you want to do and relax and not have to worry about your bills. That's perfect happiness for me. All right. Well, then maybe along those same lines. Number two is, what is your greatest fear? My greatest fear is to not have any family. That's my greatest fear because, like, it's so lonely. And everybody don't understand that when you had those quiet moments, then it's kind of like, damn, like, it's really just me.

Like, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, I was, it was, it was, weird because I had, I was on my way to work one night. I work at this little warehouse and I was on my way to work one night and I was like, damn, it's late. You know, sometimes you just driving and you want to talk somebody on your way there. And I was like, damn, I ain't got nobody to call. So I call my wife. Like, baby, I'm your friend. It's late. What's up? Because it is like, and you don't really realize it because I know growing up we have so many, so many associates until certain stuff happens in there you actually get to see who that circle is. So it's like, and I never thought

that I would like see it the way that I saw it. But then it was like, damn, they was right. You know, like, you know, I remember when you was back in the day, your mama always tell you, all them, that ain't your friend. They ain't going to be around. You just could never see how they would not be around. Yeah. And three years later, you got a whole new group of, of whole new, like, people and everything around you. And you never thought that you would, you just thought, no, I would grow up with this person and see their kids. They're going to be with that person. Like, you just net, and you doubted your parents so tough. Oh, yeah. What do they know? You don't know nothing. Quit. That's my boy. And they be right on the money. It's just like so crazy,

but it's like generational because now you see yourself doing it with your. kids like that ain't your friend don't do it and then you you catch yourself because you like damn i sound like my dad like ugh so yeah that that that's a that's a big that's a big fear of mine right right there how long have you and your wife been together at this point antoine 25 years yeah 25 years we've been married 18 together 25 she's so fun It's so cool. She's upstairs sleeping because she got drunk with her parents. Hence the fun.

I love it. I love it. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history.

On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep tradition. alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, third question is, if you could be the best in the world at something, what would it be? Hmm. I would say I would want to be the best at parenting. Aw, Antoine, you're in our fields today.

All in the emotions. I want to be the best at parenting because I feel like it's the parents who raised the next generation and, you know, take stuff from that generation. Now, you know, I remember back in the day my mom and them used to always say they used to call us crazy. our generation was crazy. And now we call in this generation crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like this generation of kids is crazy. Like, you know, like, raise them.

Like, oh my God, how they just running in the stores, running out of the stores with all it is? Like, you know what I'm saying? I guess. But a lot of that stuff starts at the house. So I think if the parents could inform the kids like, you know, certain stuff that's going on without making them like latchkey kids or, you know, kids or we you know like we spoil our kids and that's like you know we always want better for

our kids we always want better but at the same time we still take a little bit away because we don't have the tough love to where they don't understand to appreciate certain stuff that you do you know what I'm saying and so I think sometimes the tough love that we get we take it for granted like we don't really know like damn I remember my mom used to be on me for this blah zay blah and i was just i fought so hard fought it so hard and now here i am with the same traits doing some of the same stuff so a lot of the stuff that you fought you use now and it's good and you do it subconsciously because you don't even know and then you pay attention later like did i just put that cash in that envelope and write gas bill on it and lick it and

close it and put it in the way i wouldn't touch it you would You was not putting it in the bank because one of these subscriptions might snatch it because you'd be forgetting how many subscriptions you got. So that way they don't take it and you make sure that you can pay that bill. And I'll be feeling so old when I go look in the cabinet and I got these three with $47. $16. All right. Well, speaking of cabinets, what is the weirdest item you keep by your bed?

A bag of cookies. Yeah. What kind of cookies? The soft baked, the soft baked milk chocolate ones, I think it's from Saucito or the little white bags? Yeah, the white bags. Yeah. It's like Pillsbury Farm or something. Yeah, because if I wake up at 3 in the morning, I just, I don't want to walk downstairs,

so I eat a cookie and drink and walk and go back to sleep. I love that that's what you want at 3 o'clock in the morning, like, I need a cookie. I've earned it. Listen, when you're a little kid, you think all the time, like, when I'm a grown-up, I'm going to be able to do anything I want, and that's one of those things that pays off. It's like, yeah, I am going to get a cook. Midnight snacks. Yeah.

Nobody can stop me. I got a freezer full of freeze pops right now. You know, the freeze pops that all connected and different flavors. I got a freezer full of them. And I remember as a kid, I used to steal. them out the freezer, take like five or six and put it under my pillow, and then I would eat them one by one, like, in the bed, you know, and I'm going to be like, who ate all the freeze pops? I'd be like, I got a freezer full of them and I barely touch them. No, it's just good to

know that they're there. Yeah, they have it if you want. Okay. Okay. All right, so who is the living person that you most admire? I would say, my aunt because she like she's so strong like she's been sick for a while and she's so strong but she always like take on everybody else's problem she one of those people that just like takes on everybody else's problem takes no matter what she can't do nothing for you but she takes on everybody's problem so it's kind of like you like damn superhero we got your back like you know what I'm saying it's just you know life changes it changes for you but But I think it gets better, though.

Where is she right now? She in Chicago. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to try to pull up on her next month and hopefully get out there to go see her before it get cold because I hate going to the city when it's cold. Yeah. Tell me about it. Oh, Chicago's the worst in the cold. Oh, no, thank you.

Yeah, it's too cold at home. Oh, yeah, you used to live there. So, yeah, it's too cold at home. Wouldn't that be like three degrees and then it getting negative? Yeah. And then the lake effect hits you in the face and you're like, why did we settle here? Why did we choose this? Antoine's a California boy now.

Yeah, baby. I'm good. I'm good. I wake up in this hot outside. I'm cool. It's so nice. What is your current state of mind? I would say empty right now because we're saying limbo.

We don't know what the hell is going on with this strike. you know what I'm saying so a lot of people is I'm watching everybody everybody's scrambling but you got to remember like we were part of the last strike and we were fortunate because we went right back to work yeah so we didn't really we basically got a little vacation because we were already working you know what I'm saying and then we got a little vacation and I don't think we was out for that long what was it like maybe like four or five weeks or something like that and we went only four yeah yeah we went right back to work so we didn't really feel the the the wrath of it, but I'm seeing a lot of people around me that was filling the raft with, you know,

with no job. And I'm just like, damn. And I think it's, I honestly don't think we're going back to work until March. That's just, that's my personal, just what I'm, just from what I'm looking at and what I'm seeing and like all the development. So I feel like it's empty because we, we have no clue what's going on. Yeah. It feels vindictive this time around.

Yeah. In a different way. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because you can feel and see that. ego dripping off of this. That's it. This is not people disagreeing about how to get something done.

This is an unbelievably wealthy ruling class trying to exact pain on people they view as minions, people they view as expendable. And I think what's waking a lot of people up in the world is they go, oh, we thought actors and writers were privileged. We thought all of you guys were wealthy. We thought, and people are realizing that. 87% of the people in SAG don't make enough money to qualify for healthcare. They're realizing that, like, some of the highest paid writers in the industry

make, if they're lucky, 75K a year. And that's money that their whole team also takes a percentage of. Like, for us, if you get a job that actually pays you, like, decent money, it might take you 20 years to get it. You might only have it for 10 episodes. And, you know, you give 40% of what, people hear you earn away to everybody on your team. And that's a privilege, you know, to be part of an industry where if we eat, everybody eats is pretty cool. But I think people for the first time

in this moment are realizing that much like, you know, executives at oil companies, the executives at these entertainment companies are making $200 million a year. And most of their employees are living paycheck to paycheck if they're lucky, if they don't have to have second jobs. And I don't know anybody, you know, nobody in my close group of friends doesn't have a second job. I mean, this is our second job, you know? And I think it's, I think it's been very sobering for people. And I do think that's important because the reality everyone's seeing right now is why you see so many unions coming together, right? Like, not just us, the right? the animators, the visual effects guys, but like, we've got the flight attendants union picketing

with us in L.A. We've got UPS striking with us across the country. Like, by the way, the UPS drivers just $170,000 a year salaries with benefits. I am so happy. Yeah, thank God. Go get it. And it's like, I think it's really inspiring that people are being so vulnerable because finally people are realizing that it's really the majority of us that are in this together and we're just trying to figure it out. And I think it's important that we're honest about what that limbo looks like. Yeah, limbo's the perfect word to describe it. Yeah. That's the word limbo. I see it. Yeah. Limbo is what it is because we are definitely unsure about what's going to happen over the next six months.

Mm-hmm. But native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball.

Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. well you're probably spending a lot more time with your friends because you have more free time now what do you value most in your friends um just you know just being there you know what I'm saying I think at our age you know when they just dare for you it's like damn because sometimes you don't really have that no answer and you don't really have you know some of the elders that you have may have been around you they're not around no more so It's like, damn, so you don't have that support system.

That's what I said. Like, we took certain stuff for granted to where, you know, you could call your grandma and be like, ah, and even though she might cuss you out and not do what you want to say, but now you actually need that little pep talk to, well, get up. Shut up. Stop crying. Get up. Come on.

We got to get out here and do this. So that's what you value that from your friends, the ones that just keep pushing you to to not give up, especially right now because we just have so, it's been so traumatic for us for the last three years as a country, as a people just period with everything that this country just went through from COVID to, you know what I'm saying, to the Black Lives Matter movement to the, you know what I'm said, to everything that we have, the LGBT community movement. It's just so much going on for us right now, I think. So having a safe space with your friends where you need that, yeah, we have to have that push. Yeah, we got to have From that circle.

On what occasion do you lie? When I go to work. Die for a living. You know, it's crazy. I told my people, I said, man, one thing about me, I'm a great actor, but I'm a terrible liar because I can't remember all of that. It is what it is. Yeah.

loved when you would walk on to set and pretend like you'd read everything and be like, yeah, of course. I know what's going on. And then we found out years later that you did not read the whole scripts. And you'd be like, oh, it's crazy. Wow, who knew? I just remember that one episode that was so vivid. And I was talking to Lee.

And he was like, yeah, because tomorrow we got to film the funeral scene. And I was like, the funeral. Somebody died? Oh, damn. We at the cemetery, I was like, who died? He was like, he didn't read it. I was like, nah, I just read my love part. I ain't know nobody died.

I can't wait to see this episode. Oh, my gosh. I did not know we was filming a funeral. All right, next question. What is one thing you will never do again? Tori DeVito said jumping out of an airplane. She was like, I am not ever going to do. do that again. I'm good.

Oh, damn, that's a tough one, because I think I do everything I did again. That's a sign of a good life. Yeah, I think I do everything because I don't really do stuff I don't want to do. Yeah. I've never been a follower. So it's like, you know, if they want to go down, nah, man, I'm not doing that. Yeah. Maybe I would take that gang banging.

Well, yeah, that's a bad move. Yeah, I take back gangbanger. You say that now because you're an adult because you're a parent and now you sound like the adults in your life. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, gangbanger was bad. But at the time, it was really, really fun and that's what everybody was doing. So, you know what I'm saying? We didn't look at the outcome that it would have on the community.

We just was like, this is our street. We run this and we ain't letting you come over here and do nothing. And then you get growing and be like, I'd have never own nothing. that street. So I was out fighting so hard. Yeah. Wow, because kids look for a place to belong, you know. Yeah, you needed that group. And that's exactly what you're talking about, right? Like so many of the things we're discussing are what sort of exposure do you have to like other people, to other communities? And when you are in a moment of your life or maybe a geographical place or, you know, an era, like the one you're talking about where you don't have a lot of options,

It's not like you're picking off a whole menu. Somebody's been like, well, you could do A, B, or C. And, like, you have to do one of them. And, you know, maybe you grow up in a very diverse community where you know so many kinds of people. Maybe you don't. Maybe you grow up somewhere where everybody does the same thing and looks the same and believes the same thing.

Like, I think the most inspiring thing is when you evolve in your life and you start to have, like, more and more people, places, experiences to choose from and understand. You can look back at your life and go, what was I doing as a young man behaving that way? Because now you don't have an ABC. You've got a whole alphabet of experience in humans and communities and groups that you pick from and love and defend and the way you show up for people and defend people and like, you know, metaphorically show up when the block needs you is so different than it was when you were a teenager. and, like, how beautiful.

Yeah, so different, so different. So, yeah. I mean, we did some bad stuff, but, you know, we was kids. So we learned something now, but we don't even hang out in those. When I go home now and I go to Chicago, I am in the house. I literally go to my cousin's house, my aunt's house, my other cousin's house. We go over here. We go over here.

We do like, they barbecue, they eat, they cook. You know what I'm saying? Somebody else comes over. They talk. They laugh. Back then, we didn't do that. We thought that was so boring. Like, I'm going outside.

Everybody thinks the grown-ups are corny. And then you become a grown-up and you're like, I love corny. Well, like, that meme that's like all the things you hated as a child become your greatest pleasures as adults, napping, drinking more water, going to bed early, not going to the party. You're like, yeah, I don't want to go. Yeah. And I know you know I party. I party every day.

I party every night when we filmed. Oh, yeah. Like, now I haven't been to a club and, well, I went when I was in Vegas, I went to go down. You were a 20-year-old. Yeah. I would go watch the performances. Like, I know I could get in.

So it was like, what time does he perform? Oh, he's about 2.30. Cool. I see you around 2.15. I slide in, watch the show, slide out. I was literally in the bed. Like, like my days. in Vegas, when I was working out there, I literally would be at the hotel all day, go to work

for two hours, and go right back to the hotel. But back then, there's no way I would have ever been in that hotel room. I would have been at the spot or at the pool party on the table. Getting out all that energy. Yeah. We did dance on a lot of tables. We were good at it. I need to sleep. I'm chilling. I feel the same now. I'm like, I will come to see the music, but that's the only reason. Yes. all right let's pivot antoine what's the strangest purchase you've ever made or almost made if you don't have a something specific that you did purchase i ain't gonna even lie um me and my wife was talking one day she was like you always on the road and da da da da da da stop so i bought one of these little we we ordered this little fake this little fake right i knew he was going to say that i knew i knew that was coming like a flashlight yeah I was like, this ain't it.

I never used that people. We ordered and it thought it was going to be so wonderful. And then we got home, like, I had to put grease in it. Oh, no. I got to cut it up. I'm straight. No, I'm good. No, I think that they make us so you can, like, put them in the dishwasher.

And I've had this conversation with friends. I can't. I am the color of my hat. I can't. Yeah. I love it. I'm so. glad you just admitted it.

We never used it. Please tell me, though, that you just, like, put it out on the coffee table when people come over sometimes, just as, like, a conversation starter, because that's the kind of shit that I find so funny. You know what? I wish I could find it, because it might be hot somewhere, because our damn show do that.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Just, like, put it out with, like, you know, at Christmas when you decorate, with, like, little trees and the fake village and stuff. Just put it out there as, like, a water tower. Put some M&Ms and you've got to reach inside to grab the M&Ms and like a little holiday candy I cannot I can't look at you guys on top of the candy bowl these are the conversations we used to have oh boy okay total change of

subject who are your favorite writers could be you know screenplay writers novels whatever you like. Musicians, poets, whatever. Oh, yeah. Who is my favorite writers that I like, I work with so many people. Like certain stuff is good.

I mean, I've done some projects that you'd be like, what the hell is this project? Some of them to be movies is horrible. But funny at the same time because they're so bad that they're hilarious, that they're so bad. Like I,

I can't remember this writer's name, but everything that they wrote, one of my favorite writers that, like, comedy is Dave Chappelle. Yeah. He's one of my favorite writers because I think he thinks. He's so smart. Yeah, he thinks devil's advocate outside the box from like a strange point of view to where you almost feel like, damn, I never thought about it like that. But I did think about it like that, but I would never say.

that but he just said it you know what I'm saying so it's like context yeah as far as comedy I think he has a really clever a clever comedy that's like it's like a controversial

clever comedy that kind of like what I mean by like it's like back in the day we used to watch like all in the family which was one of my favorite shows and I still watch that show now and I did not realize how racist the show was I started watching the show

and was like, damn, this show is so racist and it was my favorite show but the writing that Norman Lear and them did it was such a clever and I kind of like look at that comedy like Sanford and Son was so racist all the family

like all of those shows with the Jeffersons they was all so such racist shows but it was so funny because they basically made you laugh at the ignorance that people had. So I like that because it kind of like slaps

the ignorant in the face and make them look at a different standpoint. Well, and you've been really vocal about your support of the LGBTQ plus community because, you know, you have family members that identify as a part of that community. And so some of this more provocative stuff that you're drawn to,

do you feel like it's just a tension release where because it's such, sensitive subject matter, you need a voice just to make it laughable so that it's palatable. Is that kind of what you're looking for? In a sense, because I think for so long, that's what I'm saying. As a generation, our generation was taught different things about their community. Their community is not correct. In the Bible, it says this.

But we were drilled with that as kids. That's not right. That's not right. They can't feel that way. They can't do this. They can't do that. me while I was around people that actually felt that way. You know what I'm saying?

But for them to feel that way, it was wrong, but that's just how they felt. So I was like, hey, if you like it, I love it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I support you, my people. If that's what you want to do, go ahead and do it. It may not be what I'm into, you know, that don't turn me on. But if that turns you on, by all means, do your thing. You know what I'm saying?

But we would just talk that. So I think it's more, we don't have the education on it. You know, we don't sit down with that side and talk it out to understand. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And then we still coming with those old judgments. And I think we need to change that portion because it's different. I mean, we don't have to accept everything either that's detrimental to us. You know what I'm saying?

I think we need to, it needs to be more of an open discussion. so you can hear both sides. My daughter came out to me. She was scared to come out to him because she came out to me. And I knew it. I knew it early. I was just like, hmm. You know what I'm saying?

I never forget. Watching some, I think it was some girl that was on some video. We was watching the TV and my daughter was like, oh, dad, she is fine, ain't she? And I was like, yes, she is. But the way she said it was like one of my homeboys. I like, you got good taste, baby, girl, was good. So I kind of knew, you know what I'm saying, at that point. And it was just like, okay.

So, but that dialogue has to be open, like, for sure, it has to be open. Because we don't understand. You don't understand. You feel uncomfortable. And when you feel uncomfortable, you usually run away and you don't want to hear about it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, well, everybody putting a wall up. Everybody puts a wall up.

Everybody puts a wall up. That's one of the things comedians are great at is keeping the dialogues open, just like point. pointing out all the things, ripping open the seams so everybody feels so stiff, you know, to be able to just open it up so conversations can happen. Right, yeah, they make them laugh. It's a break-the-ice moment for everything. Well, and even if it's, like, awful and controversial, at least it's an opportunity for families to push pause and talk, you know?

Like, sometimes it's nice to have a bad guy that's outside of the house that's bringing up something controversial so that you inside the house can discuss it and it be fodder for, like you said, an open dialogue. Yeah, the dialogue.

It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly,

like very traditional. It feels like, Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive,

while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I also know one of your favorite writers is Phil Collins. Oh, my God. I love Phil. Phil is the man.

I need to listen to Phil Collins. I'm going to wash my car and listen to Phil. What is your favorite Genesis song? In Too Deep? I love that song. Yeah. In Too Deep is the one. It's always the jam.

That might be their top for Genesis, you know, but Phil got so many. So it's like, yeah, Phil got too many. Do you have an all time? All time. Yeah, he's hard. And I went to his last concert at the Staples. I went by myself. because wifeing them didn't want to go.

So she was just like, you're going to go. I was like, man, I'm going by myself. I don't care of nobody. I don't care of nobody. One ticket. Oh, my God. I wish I'd been home. I'd have gone with you in a heartbeat.

I had a ball. I had a ball. My friends from college, I call her Low Flo. Her name is Laura. She used to always give me a ride home when we was in college. And she'd be like, I'll drop you off. Because, you know, I had a bus pass back then. And she had a car.

So she would drop me off and drop me off at home. And she loved Phil Collins, too. So me and her used to go to all the field college concerts together because I didn't have a ride. So she was derives. Like, I get the ticket. I got my financial aid check. Let's roll. So I had a buddy to go with me.

But this last time I was by myself because she couldn't go. Yeah. I'm sure you had a ball. All right. Other end of the spectrum, what is your greatest regret? And this doesn't have to be serious. I mean, I'm sure there was a Phil Collins concert you missed somewhere. You still eat me up inside.

You know what? My greatest regret is not doing, not staying as a like series regular on TV instead of choosing movies. Because at the time, you know, in our careers, everybody wanted to do film. It was film, film, film, film, not your agents and managers to like get you away from TV because they didn't want you to be like locked down on the show and you can't. do other stuff. So it was like, I think, and I was getting offered show after show after show. I think I should have stuck with TV instead of films. Remember when they convinced us that, like, TV was tacky?

It was like, oh, you're a TV actor. Yep. Now it's all mixed up. Tucky. The UK was always like that. They mixed up stage TV film, soaps, sitcom. Like, it was all mixed up. Nobody cared.

Judy Dench would go do. a soap opera and then go do a commercial and then go do a TV show and then go win an Oscar. Like, it's just so silly that we were, we had such a strange little hierarchy, but I'm glad it seems to have dissipated now. Completely, actually. Okay. Dib-dib-dib-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- where are we?

Oh, yes. Okay, Antoine, what's something that you really dislike? I really dislike greedy studios. Oh, yes. Get them. Yes. I really dislike Gets like. Greedy, greedy studios.

Winning. Yeah. It's fair. That's what I dislike right now. Mm-hmm. That's the pet peeve in the country right now for us. I think everybody's feeling that across the Lord in every business. Yeah.

Greedy studios, greedy CEOs. Bye-bye. Yep. Okay. Happy question. What or who is the greatest love of your life? The greatest love with my wife. I've been with her.

25 years. And we've been through it, like through the ringer. So, I mean, she win. Mm-hmm. She wins. That's it. She wins. So, you know, I know she wins.

So, you know. How'd you guys meet, Antoine? Tell everybody at home what your origin love story is. I was going to a, I had went to a celebrity game that they do in California. Snoopham used to do it back in the day, a big one. and they had a supposedly this was supposed to be the official after party and we we got duped i got duped and she got duped her group of friends got duped to going to this party and we got to go into this party and when we got there was so ghetto we was just like

nobody here looks like they took the shower like nobody here looks like they took a shower at all so and it was so humid and hot in there and it was just sweaty and everybody was dancing Like they had a good old time, but I felt like I was in a juke joint in Mississippi in the backwoods. Like, it was really sweaty and in humid and and I was like, man, I'm about to get out of here. So I was standing at the stairs and they was walking like leaving. Like we had just got there and we all was like, I'm about to leave. So we was walking down the steps and I was, I started talking to her walking down the steps like, man, what the hell y'all doing here? Y'all look like y'all took a bath.

So I know y'all leaving. And it was like, yeah, we leave and we going to Orange County. And we just got to talking and I got her number. And then I told her, I said, man, did you give me the wrong number? And she was like, no, why would I get you the wrong number? So I had a cell phone at the time. So I called her. Oh, no.

Make sure the number first. And then she was like, see, I told you it ain't the wrong number? She's like, why he called me right now. That's cute. You know, back then, y'all used to give away the wrong number. We did. We did that a lot. Oh, yeah, all the time.

So me, I was like, I'm a straight shooter. If you don't want to see me, just tell me now. Yeah. Well, I also like that you weren't playing it cool. You weren't like, I'm going to wait three days. You were like, I'm going to make sure I don't leave this environment unless I have the right in for me. I'm calling, right? That's such a swaggy move. No chill. Right then. And then after I went over, she used to live by Schar, she used to live in Orange County. And I was like, damn, you live far. Because I was in our Hamburg. I was like, you live far. I was like right by Pasadena. So. Yeah, you were close to me. Yeah, I'm like, we're right here, but I'm like, I'll come out there, so I drove all that way down there to see her. That's love in Los Angeles. If you get in the car and brave all that traffic, you loved her. Crossing the 405 is love.

Driving to Orange County, like. No, that's crazy. That's, that's destiny. And I had to hit the 405. Yeah. Like, so if you, in Pasadena, could you ever imagine dating somebody that lived in Santa Monica? Oh. Yeah.

I did. No. You did? Yeah. It's like a long-distance relationship. It's so hard. You have to plan your whole life around traffic times. Ugh. Like it's so, oh man, it's a no. It's a no for me. As just like a point of reference for anybody that doesn't live in California. It'd be like if my kid in Hudson Valley was dating someone in Massachusetts or Connecticut. Like it is a whole ass other state away. Yeah, it's so far. She wins for me. That's good. Yeah. All right, what do we have next? Willing to go to the ends of the earth and L.A. County for that woman.

I did. You cutie. All right, listen, when and where were you happiest? You've always been ahead of the curve with us, Antoine. Like, you were working before us. You were a parent before us. Now you're an empty nester, you know, like, In what phase were you happiest?

Hmm. I think season, I think around season four. I think around season four, because that's when I first became like a series regular. It was like season four, I think it was when we did the state championship. Oh, yeah. God, did it take that long? I thought it was before then. It was the whole season.

You were regular to us, Sanchez. Twan, you were in our hearts before that even happened. Yeah, it was, it was happy then because of like everything was like cool. You know, we had money coming in on a regular basis. We had just got a new crib. All the kids were doing good in school. And, you know, I mean, you guys know now as a parent, you see like, your happiness comes by making them smile.

So. Yeah. I knew nobody really understood back then when we was filming and I used to always come back and forth home. And they'd be like, how are you going home at six in the morning? I'd be like, because he got a violin recital. And I, you know what I'm saying? I got to be there for that. Like I can't, you know what I'm saying? So I went to the club, stayed up all night and get on the plane in the morning. So I can make sure I'm home. Because if I would have went to sleep, I would have missed that flight. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, but those little moments

like when, and then, you know, he's playing my other son. They both playing basketball. And then my daughter got this. And then my other daughter got dance. And then, you know what I'm saying so like those are like the happy moments because you you have to enjoy that now because once they get older they got to work they got to do this they got to do this so you don't really get to see them you see them in passing you know like once they become like adults you know what I'm saying you see them in passes because you're going to get lonely again when when when them baby girls and that boy gets 16 and be like you don't want to hang with his damn mama at 16 it's already killing me. I'm like, do you want to watch a movie? And he's like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. They don't want to do that.

So you're going to lose that for a minute. Yeah. Okay. What talent would you most like to have? Hmm. Hmm. Well, I know how to cook. You keep telling us that, but you have yet to prove it to us. Prove it. prove it I used to bring Chad food all the time to say you should be like bring me some of them neck bones what are them again I would bring I would bring all kind of food that I would cook at night because you know I cook every day I didn't really eat out too much you know I said like the brasserie ended up being one of my favorite restaurants but that's I was so far all the time but that was you know but other than that and the other little restaurant that shut down downtown was was pretty

good. But if I didn't eat at those two spots, I just, I would always get off or I would put me some food on early in the morning, slow cooking in a crock pot or something like this. I love that you were doing that. Yeah. By the time we got offset, the food was ready. Such a grown up. Yeah, it took slow for like, you know, four hours, five hours. But at home, it was good. You know, you get the automatic shut off at a certain time so you don't burn the riverview up. He sounds like my husband. Men love crockpots. They can love crock pot.

So easy. But wait, okay, so fine, fine, fine. You're good at that. What do you want to be good at? What's your secret? Your secret. I want to be able to build stuff. Like, I've always wanted to, like, be like,

like, I see all this beautiful stuff that you can do for the house and stuff like that. I can't put shit together. It's always missing. The table's leaning. It don't. The directions didn't explain it right. Like, so I can't put it together. You and Hillary really need to get together.

She's the building queen. If you ever buy me anything that I have to assemble, there's probably going to be in the box a year ago. We're going to a class. Yeah, I have so many problems putting stuff together. So I would really like to be able to build stuff or put stuff together. Let's do it. Right on.

We can work with that. Antoine, I got a bunch of drills. come over. I do got a couple drills, too. They are still. But do you use them? No, they, the drill bits are still silver. They are also still in the box.

Still in that bag, and they're great. You know what I really want to learn how to do? I want to learn to drywall. And I really want to learn how to tile. Like the full, I want to be able to demo a bathroom and redo the shower myself. Drywall is not that hard. I don't know anything about tile. But I thought drywall was really intimidating.

I had somebody show me once, and I was blown away. It's actually really easy. Yeah, the drywall is easy. I can tell it's not tough, but like people who can really do a nice smooth surface on a wall. Because, like, you know when, I don't know, when you've had something repaired and you're like, it looks a little wonky. And then there's like some people who come in and you're like, wow, this looks so nice. I want to know the like real particulars of those skills.

Yes, that's what I want. I want to take a carpety class. But then I always feel like if I start taking it, it's going to take too long. And then I might book a job. Well, we're on strike, baby. Let's go. Yeah, that's a lot right now. This could be a very useful usage of our time.

Yeah, let's go. I'm about to do. I'm either do that or I'm going to learn how to drive these trucks. I'm going to take one of these CDL classes. Listen, once I learn to drive that RV, now every time I see a big vehicle, I'm like, I can do that. It's such a, such a cocky move. It's just like to be able to drive that all that. That's power to be able to drive that 18 wheeler.

I got in, I did a little fake movie where I was supposed to be a truck driver and I would be in the car. I would be in the truck with the guy who was actually like the devil who was driving that 18 wheel. I was like, man, that was power for him driving. That's power. You don't realize that until you're on the road and you just be like, man, this truck need to get out the way.

You know what I'm saying? You realize how much power that is. You're like, your car will never win the battle against that big piece of machine. So you got to leave that one alone. Always get over so trucks can get in. Always. I would let them, I let them win that battle. But I do want to learn how to drive one.

I like that. That's hot. I'm into that. Okay. You want to learn that. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia. and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges,

we explore her story, along with other. Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. change one thing about yourself? What would it be? Oh. Um, my big heart. I would change that. I wouldn't. No. No, I would change it because it's a curse and a blessing. Because sometimes that heart could be too big. And it's a lot of leeches out here. And you know what I'm saying? And so more people

pray on it because they know you are so giving, so giving, so giving, so giving, so giving. Or not necessarily change it, but be more thoughtful of it to who you have the big heart with. You see what I'm saying? Because mine is for everybody. It was just for everybody, but you can't give it. You can't do well for everybody. Yeah. You can't.

Would you really rather be more closed off, though? Like the alternative is to care less. Or just be specific about who you care about. I think we're in a boundaries era. That's it. That's it right there. You could still have a massive heart. Just put a fence up.

Better boundaries. That's it. But mine was so open for so many years for so many people. And it shouldn't get open for so many people because, you know what I'm saying? Some people want more for you, and some people want more from you. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like to be able to differentiate who I have a big heart with, I would like to change that about myself.

Yeah, that makes sense. What would you consider to be your greatest achievement? I raised four children, well, five. I raised five children to adulthood. They got, you know, a couple of them got college degrees. And they're adults and they're doing their own thing. That's, I feel like that's now that's time for me. You know what I'm saying?

The kid, the youngest is 22. And I feel like that's, now I could be an uncle or I could be, you know what I'm saying? You could drop the kids off and let me. me watching for four, five, six hours, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's a little different now, but I feel like, like, because, I mean, when you think about it, me, I was a parent at a young age, you know what I'm saying? So just to see them grown now, it's like, that's all I worked for for the last 20-some years

was to get them grown. And I'm saying, so I've accomplished that. I've done my job. Now it's time for me to do me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and also, like, just parenting is white knuckle terror all the time. Yes.

And being able to kind of like take your hands off the wheel is, oh, that's a huge accomplishment. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have to go to a PTA meeting. I don't have to deal with little Jimmy who picking on him and he took his ball and out, man. I don't have to deal with none of that no more. I'm good. I'm ready for grandbaby. Just bring me a grandbaby. I can spoil. And you can still go to the club if you want to. Grandpa Antoine is a phase.

I can't wait to experience. Cannot wait. Oh, yeah. We're ready for it. My niece is having a baby. So everybody slugs. We're excited about her having a baby. So I'm Uncle Daddy.

You know what I'm saying? That's so sweet. Uncle Daddy. My kids are not rolling. We'll get you a grandchild when we're like 40. And I'm like, but you want to hear something funny? I told my, when my niece announced that she was pregnant, everybody in the house was crying and they were so happy. And I said, you know what?

I'm going to break something down for you. I said, Taylor, you should be so happy that everybody is so happy. I said, because if this was the 80s, when you came home and said you were pregnant, it was melancholy in the house. It was like, your life was done. And it was like, your sister doesn't get pregnant. I don't know what we're going to do. It was like, it was so sad. It is crazy how much has changed, you know?

Like, even when I had Gus and I wasn't married, I was the first one of my friends to have a baby and I was unmarried. And it was scandal. Yeah. What are you going to do? And it's like, really? Oh, my God. Yeah, dude.

It was melling. Different time now. Yeah. Different time. Love it. Okay, Antoine, if you, this sounds morbid, but then I think it gets fun. If you were to die and come back, could be as a person or a thing, what would you want to come back as? Damn.

Next life. That's a good question right there. Because I don't want to be nobody else. Yeah. I don't want to be nobody. You don't want to be anything other than what you've been. Trying to be lately. Sorry, I'm not too.

Oh, that's a good question. I remember when I was younger, I used to be like, well, I had I want to come back as a dog. You know, because they get treated by me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it depends on whose dog. But right now, they got a bunch of laws.

I would want to be one of Sophia's dogs. Yes. I was like, if you're one of mine, you'd be. I'm spoiled. I'm chilling. sleep in the bed and everything Living the life That's so good

I want to be one of Sophia's dogs I'm straight Yeah that's it That's my answer I love it Done All right

So the next question is Do you have just like a place Or a thing in your life That just comes so easy to you That you know it's where you belong A place Or just like a talent or a hobby or something that you do.

Like, what is the thing in this life that makes you feel that it's where you belong because it comes naturally to you? Basketball for me. Yeah. Because it's like a, it's an escape for me.

Because, like, I could be going through stuff and then I hit the gym and I play for two hours and I'm not worried about no bills. I'm not worried about this. I'm not worried about that. Yeah. I just, it's a different space

for me to be in that world. And you focus in that world. And like now it's even getting better because I never smoke weed until I was 48. You know what I'm saying? Well, I'm 48 now. But when I was 47 and that's when I had that the doctor talk, it was either weed or all these pills. And I was like, well, I never smoked weed in my life. So I guess I got to try it.

You know, my kids had to teach me how to smoke. Oh, Dad, beauty. But I promise you, if I hit my, if I hit my. my little prescription real quick and go play ball. It's such an escape. It's like crazy. And I wish I would have been smoking 30 years ago. Stop.

Kids listening to the podcast, you're fine. But when you hit 48, then you can do whatever the hell you want. Do whatever you want. I don't care. It's dental anti-anxiety and it's a stress reliever. And those days where you go, I don't know what I'm going to do.

you smoke and you just be like, hmm, naked and afraid is on. Obsessed. I always love naked and afraid. That's perfect. Antoine, where would you most like to live? Well, I most like to live. Well, I'm in Eastville now. I want to move back to Rancho.

In the whole world, that's your spot. I love Rancho. It's just, it's the safest city in the country. They've been raided the safest city for so long. It's kind of like the Beverly Hills of the Inland Empire is really peaceful and it's really beautiful and it's so much to do and there's so much stuff going on to where it's like you can still be at home and be peaceful, but if you want to turn up a little bit, you could go right down the street and then you can come right home and it's kind of like a balance like over there. And where I'm at now, it's like that too, but it's, I don't know, I just like the 210 and the scenery and Rancho a little bit better than Eastville. You are a California boy now. Yeah.

No turning back. Yeah, I ain't moving back to Chicago. It's too cold. It's like excruciating cold. And it's cold 10 months out of the year and it's too hot the other two months. So you don't really have no medium. And then other than that, it's raining. So, you know what I'm saying?

But I love the people. I just hate the weather. They can visit you in Rancho. Yeah, that's it. Come on, Auntie. They pull up. I love it. Okay, sir, this is our final question.

What is your most treasured possession? My most treasured possession. Well, I don't really have one. I don't really have one. I don't think we, you know, because I think, I think for us, everything is so, like, temporary. Like, you know, like, if you have a car, it's temporary because, you know, a couple years, you're going to want the new one.

Or, you know what I'm saying? Because right now I want a Tesla. I love the Tesler's. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, I ain't got no Tesla. I rented a Tesla. So I think for us, everything is temporary. But I think the, my treasure possession will be my talent.

You know what I'm saying? Because that's one thing they can't never take. You can't never take the talent away from you. You know, they can tell you, you don't have, you don't have three million followers. That's the thing that I'm not as talented as that person who got three million followers. They're a celebrity. I'm a star. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. You're a celebrity. A lot of people know you, but what is your talent? Yeah. I mean, just, I just keep it real. Like, a star is somebody that has a talent. So, like, I could say, in no shade, I could say Kim Kardashian.

Everybody knows Kim Kardashian, but what's her talent? Mm-hmm. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But if I say Jaru, you know what his talent is. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, baby girl, put it on me. Come on.

I can say that. And you know the talent is, you're going to have him stuck in my head all day now. I'm just in my head already. I'm like, baby girl. Put it on it. Yep. What would I be without you? We're back at TRL, Antoine.

Listen, you really are a star, and we feel really lucky that we get to watch episodes of the show back as just, like, fans and see your talent, because you can take something that's so clunky written on a piece of paper and make it real, and make it believable and approachable

and endear it. And that is, a really big talent and it's amazing we love you so if you see something on some i think i liked it somebody had posted something i think it was from the the show it was some episode you were watching or something and you was like or i killed this this episode i think i put it up in the comments i was like oh thanks sis good looking now yeah baby like truly i mean the annoying thing about this strike is that we can't shower you with specific compliments because we're not technically allowed to talk to you about episodes but in this season um there that we're not discussing there's a monologue um and i won't say

who you deliver it to that is so fucking good like we we had a full i mean minutes and minutes of our review where we were just talking about what you did in that in that unnamed scene on said unnamed show i don't even know which show you're talking about right now i don't even know what you're talking about um it was just like a job that you did that was really impressive But, like, truly, we were, we just lost our minds because it's like, you know, sometimes you watch somebody do something so well that it, it takes your emotional brain in one direction and then your work brain in the other. And we were like, we know what that was on the page. And, like, it was just words. Look what he did with it.

It was beautiful. Oh, thank you, man. And when we're allowed to talk about the episode after this fucking strike is over, we'll make you do a little rewind with us and we'll go back. Yeah, when this strike is over, what's your next dream job, Antoine? My next dream job is a reboot. Oh, I hope you're making plans. Yeah. You want to take us all back to work, Twan?

We'll follow you. I'm manifesting right now. Okay. He said what he said. All right, Angel, we love you so, so much. Thank you for going deep with us today. I love you. Keep the gray.

It is. I don't think I have a choice, babe. Decisions been made. I'm saying it gives you, like, it gives your face so much, like, different colors and, like, shades. Like, and then when you had it curly, I was like, oh. This is why we keep Antoine around, because he just showers our egos. Yeah. You flirt.

I know exactly what video you're talking about, because we got on the podcast and I said the same thing. I was like, yo, that thing you just posted your hair looks amazing. Getting old. Getting all together, guys. It's really working for you is what we're saying here. Hey, thanks, gang. All right, well, go give Tiff big kisses from us. Tell the kids we said hi.

I will. I love you. I love you. Love you, too. Thanks for hanging out with this. Okay, baby, okay. Bye, honey. Bye, bye.

Bye, bye. I love him. Yeah, and I don't think people really get to see beyond the curtain. You know, it's like Wizard of Oz. You see what's being. presented and not very many people get to see like Oz the Great and Powerful. And so Antoine's played like a lot of funny characters and he's played a lot of tough guys. But to see him the way that we get to see him as like this dad and this, you know, husband who

really loves his wife so much, you know, that's, it's important to know the people behind the performances. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, man. All right. Well, we'll have more of these for you guys as we move through this strike game plan. Thanks for bearing with us. Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. See you next time. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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