Drama Queens - 23 Questions with Robbie Jones

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

Quentin Fields is in the pod!!!! It’s been a while since the girls have seen Robbie and they start with a warning for the listeners regarding the possible flirtation they may have with him! And to be honest, after you hear his answers to the 23 questions they throw at him, you might find yourself feeling the same way!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Drama queen cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. Guys, we have been chomping at the bit to talk to this man.

We are sure as hell going to get to know the real Robbie Jones. We are playing 23 questions with this handsome devil. Look at those muscles. What is, what's happening? Ladies, ladies. Hi, honey. All right, you guys at home, you're going to have to deal with us flirting for a little bit. It's been a long time since we've seen this man.

Wait, what? Robbie but Robbie for everyone who's playing catch up like we all got to grow up together in this really magical way like where are you right now you're in Santa Clarita you're a family man which is very exciting yes you were so good with kids like we always knew that was the trajectory for you yeah I've so just briefly we moved to Santa Clarita right before the world completely shut down.

My daughter was starting to walk, and it was like, oh, it's time to get some space. We need a yard. We need swings. We need, you know, we need the whole thing. So we moved to Santa Clarita, started renting a home, and it was perfect. Everything was, like, working good. And then it was like, okay, the owner wants to sell the place. We were like, awesome.

We want to buy it. Oh, great. We bought the place, and now we live here. We're like resident. We live here. This is my house. I wish you would. Yes.

That is your plumbing problem. That is now your broken dishwasher. Yes. This is house number four for me. And we have, we're in the cul-de-sac. There's kids everywhere. We have child number two, little Hendricks. He is running around here talking his face off.

And my daughter is in kindergarten right now. She's at school. And we are just nesting. Sandra's just happy. She's good. She's hanging at home. Sandy is loving. Thanks.

If you don't stop calling her Sandra, her government name. I'm sorry. Oh, my goodness. Her government name. That's Sandy Jones. Sandy. Sandy Jones. That's Sandy Jones.

That's Sandy Jones. All right. But, no, she's doing great. She's loving. this whole motherhood journey and just maybe TMI just wained my my second child so he's done with nony. Oh, God, but that feeling is so good when you're just like free, the leash is off as the mother and you're just like, anyone can feed this baby now.

Like, I am our own woman. We are in week one of that reality. Wow. You brought her flowers or something. That's a big day. damn deal, Robbie. She gets liars all the time at this house. Okay, this is the Jones residence.

Well, how well. He treats his lady, right. This is, come on now. This is love. So, Robbie, you know, we have been raving about just our personal experience with you and what a gentleman you are and how fun you were to work with as an actor and a coworker. And so this is our opportunity to ask you questions from the Proust questionnaire so that the audience can actually get to know you because you played a character who a lot of parts of that character. very different from who you are. For sure.

Maybe a little abrasive. And so we'd like to get to know the sweetness underneath. Ladies, who wants to kick this off? Oh, sweet. I will. I'll go. Oh, goodness. Do it.

Robbie. Oh, Joy. Hey, friend, what is your idea of perfect happiness? Wow. You just went straight for the deep. It's right in there. Swing big. Philosophical.

Just, you just went for the big. It could be. I mean, maybe it's just like a big mac and a vanilla milkshake and a quiet, you know, car. I don't know. No. Doesn't have to be philosophical. No, no. You know what's interesting, I've been discussing this a lot with friends and family lately. And I feel like where I'm currently at now in my life with these beautiful, healthy kids and wife and house and family, mother, father. Everybody's still here. Everybody's healthy.

I feel like I'm really living in true happiness. I mean, like ultimate happiness. And it has nothing to do with work or has nothing to do with money or has nothing to do anything. It's just like when I wake up in the morning and my son is like, Dadda, can you play basketball with me? I'm like, yes. I'll sing a little dinsale tear. And I'm like, this is really where it's at.

Like, what else is the world is, there's nothing more important, nothing that makes me happier than just being here with my family and kids. And I just find myself really like being at home a lot. Even when I was working, I was like, man, can you guys get me on the first flight back home? Because I don't want to miss anything. So that's the big answer. With COVID and then our strike, like pretty much back to. to back. Do you feel like it really changed your view about what accomplishment and what fulfillment

is? It did for me. That's why I ask. It really put things in perspective for me. Like, if that makes sense, it was like for the longest time, you spend like the majority of your energy kind of chasing this thing, this career, this, this whole kind of actor thing. And as much as I love and I'm so fulfilled by my job, um, when it shut down and the world shut down and it's just you and just your wife and just your daughter at the time it's like you look around and go man nothing else is really that important like nothing else um and that that it was kind of a moment for me I'm sure you guys are all actors you had these same feelings where it's like man I want to get back to work man I want to get back to work man I miss work um but I was I was kind of praying for this like like when is this breakthrough thing going happen and when are this when is this going to get when is this going to happen and when is this going to happen and I came to this realization just one day I was like man God has already

blessed me with with all of that everything I've been praying for is already here so it's like so cool to just be living in that and that perspective shift for me happened like you said kind of during the pandemic and I was like wow wow like look at us look at this beautiful yeah that's so cool that's great okay well if if the opportunity to reflect like that really you know allowed for a perspective shift and I'm very interested to hear your answer to question too because it is what is your greatest fear oh nice segue shift sophia those you see how she did that She actually did that. Thank you.

She set it up. She was like, you know, team memo over here. Just want to get into all your feelings. The perspective has shifted. I love the setup. That was great. My greatest fear, I think, has developed since I have had children. And I think I try not to have fear of anything.

But if I'm being honest and being transparent, my biggest fear is not. being the dad that I want to be for my kids. You know what I mean? And to say like, oh, I have a fear of not being a good dad. Like that's kind of too general. So I'll just say like I want to be the, my fear is not being the dad that both of my kids need me to be as like they both need to be parented a specific way. And I just am like, man, am I doing it right? Am I getting this right?

so that that's kind of like a that's what keeps me just like every day like okay I got to stay on top of this day on top of that be here for that be here for that you know pour into them in these different ways so I can kind of like put that fear at bay you know weird raising little girls in this generation because all the stuff that we were told like go kiss your uncle go like hug that stranger go do what I'm right now we're now we're just raising like monsters but we're We're happy about it. We're like, you don't touch anybody you don't want to touch. And also say no, whenever you want. It's just a totally different thing now. Completely different. We're making it up as we go along, Robbie. I'm glad you said that.

Because I feel like I have some amazing parents, so I have a lot to kind of glean from and pull from them. And I pick their brains all the time. But like, it is so different from when they were raising us. So only so much can apply. And like you said, I got a little five-year-old girl. same is five handfuls forget it what is a handful in all the good ways but then all the ways that are challenging too so well is she you because my five-year-old is my husband she is absolutely him

no no no she's your wife she's her own thing that means she's probably you that means you don't want to admit. I mean, I got my parents here, and I ask them all the time, like, are these, was I like this? Was I like her? Was she like her? Was she like me? Or are they like me? And they're like, uh. How funny.

Yeah. Good for her. That means you're doing it right. Right. Here's the individuality. Okay. That's right. Okay.

Question number three, my friend. All right. You could be the best in the world at literally anything, cooking, spearfishing, whatever. Best in the world, what would it be? It's a great question. Man, you got on the fence because my passions and my loves for basketball and acting. And I always was like, oh, I want to be so good in basketball, but make the NBA. No.

And then I'm like, oh, I want to be the best actor in the world. but I see what happens to all the best actors but at the same time I feel like it's about who you are so I'm going to pick I want to be

the best father did you see what I did right there yeah yeah you did a bait and switch that was a crossover I was going this way okay I didn't even see it Like the fake out.

Yeah, I mean, those are two professions that can sometimes get in the way of being a good parent. I mean, we've all kind of experienced the guilt of having to leave our kids and, you know, just being distracted. There's a lot that can go wrong in either industry, whether it's sports or the entertainment industry. And so prioritizing your kid, that's a big deal. It is. What is that, not to, this is an answer that could go on forever, but like if you could truncate it into a, few things that you think of when you think of the best father in the world like just practically what would that actually look like well for me it's about being intentional and being present

and listening a lot and I think personalizing your mode of fatherhood to each individual child and not just being like oh this is how I am so this is how you get me child number one and child number two. Like, child number one might have completely different set of needs than child number two. I think being an amazing father is being the father that child number one and child number two both need individually and making sure that that happens in real time. You know what I mean? It's this one, this one wants to read and talk all the time.

This one wants to play sports and be outside all the time. So how do I find a way to be outside and be inside reading? You know what I mean? It's like, it's a balance. That's why it's great to have, you know, a wife or a partner or whoever that you're raising a child with, so you guys can kind of fill in the blanks. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep tradition. alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You are someone who I think of a lot as in the moment. It's one of the things that makes you a really enjoyable actor to watch. You're so present. You're so immediately reactive. Thank you. to what's happening in the moment. So, okay, here's question number four. You're in your home. You're in the moment. It's time for bed or it's time for waking up.

What is the one thing that is next to your bed that is the weirdest item that you have? What's the weirdest item you keep next to your bed? Ah, boy. Well, well. Yeah. Didn't see that one coming. I didn't see that one coming at all. nobody ever does Robbie

you know man you know what's weird that's next to my bed that I probably should clean up you guys ain't gone this is you won't give it give it I wear contact lenses right

okay and I wear glasses at night when I'm super lazy I have disposable contact lenses I just throw them off the side of the bed I'm about to go to sleep and I just, and there's literally a nasty little kind of, I'm ashamed.

It's a sculpture. Like a contact lens graveyard? It's just a nasty little pile of contact lens graveyard. That's such a good way to put it. A graveyard. Discarded, misfit. You've just made some people out there feel so much better about their own habit of doing the exact same thing. It's so true.

and I'm, I've admitted that to you ladies. Thank you. Do your kids play with them? No. Stick them in their mouths. No. Oh, my God. My kids play with fake eyelashes.

They play with discarded contacts. Kids love grown-up trash. No. They do, right? It's weird. I'm like, no, dad has room. Please, mama and dad is room. Stay out of dad.

It's not baby proofed in here. Please stay out. Oh, that's hilarious, Robbie. It's the truth. It's weird. but it's the truth. I like it. Do you?

It does. Yeah. Yeah, because it's so specific. It's so specific and honest. It's just me. I find it interesting. So I'm talking to soul. I can't believe it.

It's been years. Hi, honey. I missed you. I missed you too. See how I'm looking into the camera. I'm not even looking at the zoom little square. I know so we can make eye contact. Yes.

Look at that. We are eye contact, though. It's a little wide. It's close. It's as close as we get on these weird screens. It's a little extra on the pupil. Yeah. It's real.

Okay. Back to everything. Okay. Okay. We're shifting to question five. Which living person do you most admire? Okay. Which living person do I most admire?

I'll probably say my mother. I'll probably say my mother. she's one of the most fascinating people I've ever met and I've known her my whole life she gave birth to me yeah as I feel like as I've gotten older and like I said as I've had a family and all this good stuff I've gotten to know her as an adult man as opposed to just being her son yeah and that discovery of who this woman was as she was raising me and the things that were going on in her life and finding out things that I was too young to handle you know at a certain point time and you know things that she's gone through it since she was a child that you know

as a kid you're not equipped to handle some types of traumas and things that happen to but my mom is very very very strong woman and she's so cool she's the coolest cool man y'all would love my mama yeah she's so cool um she runs around with the kids be tackling them and playing I mean, she's so happy to have these little grandkids. Anyways, I love my mama, and I admire her the most. And I'm trying to truncate, okay? Don't know. As a boy, mom, like, keep going.

I mean, I'm a daddy's boy for sure. I mean, my dad. Oh, big time. He coached me in high school. I grew up with my dad. He's best dad in the whole world. I come from really good parents, my beliefs. But, you could tell, though, like, because you're so, you're so comfortable in your own skin

and you go out of your way to me. make everybody else feel good. And that's usually indicative of you coming from a place of security and support. Thank you for saying that. And I'm sure they would be happy to hear you say that. They did it. They did it. We did.

They raised a winner. We made him. Do they feel that way? Do they just kind of walk around like, we did that? I don't want to speak for them. They tell me they're proud of me and they love me because I think they're supposed to. But I hope they believe it. And they mean it.

I think they do. But yeah, I think they love their son and their grandkids and all that. I'm sure of it. Oh, sweet. Okay. Well, now that we're living the dream here, question number six. Live in the dream.

Question number six is what is your greatest extravagance? Where does Robbie Jones get fancy on me? You all ready for this? Uh-huh. Let me think of something now because I'm sorry. super simple. He owns a home. He's got a handsome scarf on right now. Did you see what I did for you ladies? Yeah, you dressed up. I didn't dress up. I just, I just threw a little color in there. He looked nice. I'm seeing the queens now, the drama queen. I can't come in here playing next.

Nope. Okay, I've got to have a little something. Okay. Fancy, a man of extravagance. Say it with my neck today. All right. I'm going to give you all one more chance to get a look at it. now. Yeah, we're going to need a headshot to post with this episode. Let me stop. What is my greatest extravagance? I'm not really into jewelry like that.

I'm not really into... You know what? I don't know why this didn't come to me immediately. Food. Like, I'm like, I wouldn't call myself a foodie, but I'm borderline kind of really. really into just like amazing food. I'm like to even waste meals on mediocre food.

So like, whatever it is, oh yeah, let's get it. I want that. I want to try it. We go to the restaurant, order them, order all that. Even if I can't finish it, if it's good, I want to taste it and say I tasted it. And then I'm going to come back and get some more when y'all ain't looking. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So easy, easy. I'm a food person that's one of the quickest ways to my heart is, man, food. Yeah. Is there a favorite? Is there like a favorite food that, you know. Yes. What is it? There's several.

Oh, so well. They're fancy. He's looking at us like, are you kidding? Are you girls? Actually. Yeah. Stop. What do we talk about?

You get one last fancy, fancy, fancy meal. That should be part of our 23 questions. Last meal. It really should. What's the fanciest? be all end all thing. You understand me. You understand where I'm about to go right now.

Give me the menu. Take us along. A lot of it is going to be homemade. Like I told you, my mama, she throws it down. Okay. What's your mom's name? Betty. Of course it is.

Betty. Don't I look like the son of a Betty? Yeah, Betty. She's like, you bought. pie-crust peasants. Peasants! You know what? I'm going to just cut out all the fluff, all the amazing restaurants, all that,

and I'm going to just go straight to my mom's peach cobbler. And I'm just going to eat a whole whole pain. Last meal, peach cobbler. Yes, Betty's Peach Cobler. And so sweet potato pie. She has the best sweet potato pie on this planet, and she's kept this recipe secret for years, and she just blessed us with it.

She blessed me and the family with it and said, keep it to yourself. Wow. Keep it to yourself. She said, pass it all to your kids. Oh, honey. I've become the sweet potato guy. You betty. She was the sweet potato provider.

The sweet potato pie provider, bless me with that. So now I have taken over the mantle. I love that. She has stabbed her approval on my sweet potato pie. That goes on the resume. Robbie, I'm coming back up to L.A. in two weeks, I need you to make me some sweet potato pie so I can take it home for Thanksgiving. It's Thanksgiving time in two weeks. It's already going down, Joy.

Sign me up. Sign me up. I am so happy that, like, I'm like, he's close. Santa Clarita is not that far for me. Not far. Yeah. I thought you were in New York. Yeah, this week. I don't live here. I'm just working. Oh. I'll be home soon, honey, and I'm coming over. Yeah. You got a little two-tene, Pasadena, Santa Cruz. I'm coming. Get ready.

Am I going to see Sophia in person? Hell yeah, you are. I paid my way through school by taking care of other people's children. I got a sick baby sway. You hand me that baby boy. I'm ready to go. I will earn my keep in pie. Can I make you a t-shirt that says I earn my keep in pie?

Yeah. I'm like, I will trade. I will babysit your children if you feed me sweet potatoes. All right, Robbie, off the cuff. What's your current state of mind? Go. current state of mind current state of mine can't you tell that's a crazy question well some people take it into their life and it's like my the place i'm in in my life right now but you kind of

already answered that because you're in perfect happiness right now i'm depressed oh oh no i'm really going through it guys it's taking a turn i think i think we replaced that one with the last meal last meal, for sure. Once you got me talking about sweet potato fire and piece, Goddler, you already know my state of mind. Come on now. Hungry. I love that.

That part. Hungry. Hungry. Yes. Homeward of O, though. Not H-U. H-O. I'm hungry.

I didn't eat breakfast this morning, and I'm talking about sweet potato pie and peace top. I'm hungry. Yeah. You need to get an Instacard order of ingredients to your house, ASAP, right now. Asatually speaking, yes. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis. who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball.

Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you most value in your friends? That's a great one. I've come at a crossroads of that, I feel like several times over the past few years.

I feel like consistency is like huge for me. And everybody doesn't, appreciate that but like I try to be that and I appreciate that like I don't like the wishy-washy flaky kind of friend you know what I mean like you can be my associate you can be somebody that I you know like we cool but like I like I appreciate in a friend somebody who's just consistent like you don't let a long time go by between us just checking on each other or just say how you doing okay that's so hard in this industry. I mean, do you find that to be, do you find it hard to even do that yourself as an

actor and someone who's traveling a lot and, you know, you're so present and in the moment with where you are? No. And that's why I feel, I'm like, that's why. Because I've been, you all have been so busy to where you can't, you don't even know up from down. You got lines, you got, you got, you've got a call time. And I mean, all kind of crazy stuff. They're forcing calls and this and that. And I've worked 14 hours and then I got to turn around at work for 17. It's just like crazy. But the people that are important to me, hey, how are you doing today? Just wanted to say what's up or like responding just what the, because texting makes things so much easier. Sometimes you can't always call because your attention is spread everywhere. But just a simple reach out, a simple, just

responded. Like I'm learning that that's not a real thing anymore. Just people don't respond. respond. They don't respond like they used to. We're in this new season in our lives. We all met when we were in that frantic, like, hustle phase of young adulthood. Do you find that the majority of your friends are like your lifelong childhood friends, like people that have known you forever? Or have you found your people in adulthood? It's a mixture of both. I have, I have like my closest friends are people that I've known my entire life. or like close family members. My best friend, my best man, he lives, he moved out here too. He moved to Santa Clara with him and his wife and two kids. Oh, that's too nice. It's crazy.

We've known each other since we were born. He's one day older than me. And I've known in my whole life. We used to be cousins by marriage and it's now we're just best friends. We've been best friends. I was the best man in his wedding, best man in mine. Anyways, he moved out here, so we're right of the street from each other. I'm the godfather.

Diaz is the Godfather. You know how it goes. Yeah. And then one of my other closest friends is my cousin. And then I have a great circle of friends of just people that I've met since I've been in L.A. and a couple friends from back home in Sacramento and then people from college. Some of my best friends are like some of my teammates from college. So I have a kind of like a sort of like a medium-sized group of people that I'm like cool with. And then there's kind of like a smaller group that I'm like really, really tight with. how about you guys i know you're asking me questions how do you guys do the whole friends thing i need

to know because you guys are busy podcasting acting raising kids being wonderful how do y'all do it it is hard and especially i think i'm i can't speak for anybody else but for me growing up in this business where you're it's all transient all the time and part of being an actor is being is as we said being so present in the moment that you're in and And you want to bond with the people that you're working with, so you get to know them well. So there's a rapport on set and there's an ease in communication when you're actually, the camera's rolling, or the curtain goes up or whatever it is. And so you immerse yourself, I immerse myself so much into those relationships that it can be hard to,

I'm, it's hard for me not to like out of sight, out of mind. I compartmentalize so much into the space that I'm in that it does take effort for me to, what it really takes is getting quiet, which I don't do as much of as I should and would like to, because when I get quiet and shut everything else out, then all the people that are in my heart kind of come up. It's like, oh, I want to reach out of this person. That's right. This person, their mom, I have to find out how they're doing, and I want to check on this person's kid, and like, what's happening with that relationship with that person? And it's just a matter of me being self-disciplined enough to get quiet and do that. But I love that it's a

It's a natural place that you are in. It seems like all the time. I think that's so great. I don't know about you girls, how you guys are. Yeah, ladies. I'm curious. I fuck with the same kids that I've known my whole life. Like, I went to school with the same kids preschool all the way, you know, through graduation.

And then we've all stayed super close so much so that like my grown-up friends know who those kids are. Like, we were just in Williamton this past weekend. was doing a book event. And a boy that I used to date senior year in high school was there. He just like came to be supportive and awesome. And I freaked out. I was so happy to see this person. Hadn't seen him forever. I come flying in the house and I'm like, I just ran out and Jimmy. And Sophia knew exactly who I was talking about because she's heard me talk about these people. I mean, it blew my mind. And so for me, that's the kind of thing that I'm trying to replicate with my kids because I know now. as an adult, how rare that is.

And I'm like, oh, if I can give them that, like, foundation of friendship and these lifelong kid relationships, it'll help them be a good friend as a grown-up because you just have that shorthand, you know? I don't actually have to talk to everybody because we just, like, know each other so well that we see each other, do shots, and everything's cool. I love it.

I also think, you know, I find it really a mixture, like you were saying, Robbie, you know, I think that that transient nature of this job that you were talking about, Joy, is just true for all of us. And it's interesting, I was having this conversation because we were all in Wilmington this weekend and, you know, everybody was working on different days. And so on Saturday, because I knew I'd see Stephen on Sunday, but I, you know, I guess you guys were with James on Friday. And so we all went to Tower 7. and got our favorite, you know, Ritesville Beach tacos, and a bunch of people from our crew came and met us, like Jane and Aaron and, you know, a bunch of friends from town, my friend

Mary and Kelly, like the folks who I lived with in Wilmington. And, you know, they're the kind of people in my life who, whether I talk to them twice a year or twice a week, like you were saying, hell, you're just close because you've been close forever. Yeah. And I think one of the things I struggle with and that I've had to just accept as a source of discomfort in my life is that when I am present with the people around me, I will always be absent from the people who aren't there, but who I love. So if I'm focusing, you know, and catching up with my friends in L.A., who I didn't see for eight months while I was working in Toronto, I'm not talking to everybody from Toronto or Wilmington. But when I'm in Toronto or Wilmington, I'm back with those people.

And it's like, I've had to figure out this sort of balance of the blessing and the curse of being present and being so lucky that I've lived in so many places that I have so many disparate groups of friends. And I think in this stage in my life where I'm just finally fucking done being a people pleaser, I've also gotten really clear about who's good for me and who deserves me being good for them. And like, there's four of us from junior high and high school that are tight. And we got to a point where we were like, a bunch of those girls we grew up with were fucking bullies. And we don't need to try to be nice to them because we're nice girls. Like my girlfriend, Janice said that. She was like, nice girls don't have to be nice to mean people.

And I was like, oh, put it on a bumper sticker. Like, I love that idea. And like, there's people who tell your daughter, Robbie. Tell your daughter. Like, it is okay to be like, I respect you, but you're not for me. it's okay to get to a point where like when there are morals and boundaries that matter to you and they don't matter to other people to be like cool care about you wish you well don't have time because i don't have time for everyone i i love who i trust with like my future and the future of people i care about and that's i don't know it's been an interesting thing to like to realize i love more people than i have time for and also if i don't have time for all those people i certainly don't have time for people who just like like, I don't know with anymore. And I don't know if that's turning 40 or what, but it feels so nice to be like, I'm good. I love it.

I'm like, I'm good. And then what if I talk to you all the time or, you know, I haven't spoken to you in a while and we're hugging each other. We're hugging ourselves to hug each other on soon because we love each other and we're always going to love each other. And I, I don't know, I cherish the sort of discernment and the, the, the, the, the, the, trust in the in the friendships that it's given me to be like these are the people who you know i'll just like i'll show up for it the drop of a hat forever where are we going what do we doing and i like that i love that i love hearing you guys the really long answer to your question i think it's fantastic i'm here to listen and learn because i'm i'm trying to figure all that out myself i like

to think i'm a certain way and i like to be a certain way and i try not to put too many expectations like on these friends like i said i appreciate consistency But at the same time, you guys each have a perspective that that makes me put all that into a different kind of viewpoint because I know I've been victim to taking things personally when I'm like, okay, I can respond when they text me or I can talk about me, no matter how I mean. And then I don't think like, what did they have to do this morning? or what's their weakness like or like what are they going through this month that might you know I mean so I got I'm constantly I'm constantly trying to do better at that even though people I love I have to have grace for just life yeah well it just means like your relationships you prioritize the people who prioritize you and that's the right thing to do you know like that's a

relationship whether it's a marriage or a friendship you prioritize you prioritize the people who prioritize you and then you're in a healthy space together. So let's flip that on its head with our next question, Robbie Jones. On what occasion do you lie to people? See, that's a tricky question because this is going to sound so self-righteous and so weird. But I like pride myself on trying to be honest, even to a fault. like even if I know it's going to hurt somebody's feelings. Yeah.

So like I think the only time where I would maybe like bowl a punch or hold, you know, yeah, man, just kind of like I like to, I've been known to just like withhold information. Oh, okay. All right. It's not, it's lying by omission. That part. I've done that. I've done that.

But I've never been the type of person where I could just create this whole alternate. scenario to replace the one that actually happened to save myself some embarrassment or discomfort or whatever. So if I were to omit, it would probably be something, maybe something to, like, to protect somebody that I care about. but it would even but it would have to be something so weirdly specific I can't

I don't know like I don't even like telling my kids about the Easter bunny or like I know right I don't even like I don't even like lying

to my kids I'd rather be like no it's just fun and we're having good time with no pretend this so you can have a real like Santa Claus isn't real guys you know I mean

like I'm bad guy my son is an eighth grade and he still is on the Santa train I will let him believe that shit forever. Right. I let it rock. I let my, okay, okay. Yeah, if they ask you outright.

And I'll just be like, I'll omit. You know what I say? Yeah. So I'll answer a different question. That part. I'll do that when it comes to like my kids or something like that. I'll just kind of like, huh? It's not always the right time to talk about everything.

Yeah. So that's the only time I can really think about it. Most of the time I'm going to bust your bubble. If you ask me, you really want to know, like, ah. Yeah. And I think that's what people appreciate in me because they know I'm going to shoot from the hip. If you really want to know, I'm not the type of person that forces my opinion or forces my belief or forces my, like, I'm not going to lead with just brutal honesty because that's, it's unkind. It's unkind.

And it's unnecessary. Yeah. I think it's very unnecessary, especially if you care about somebody. But if somebody's like, yo, how do you really feel about this? What do you really think about this? And I'll be like, do you really want to know what I think about this? I always try to give people the disclaimer. Like, do you really want to know what I think?

Sure. You don't have to want to know, friend of mine or person who's asking. But if you want to know, I'll give you my honest thoughts. I do love that. I love that. I like that. Okay, what is one thing that you'll never do again? Woo.

There are lots of things I'll never do again. The first thing that comes to me is going to be so weird and trivial. But there's this, when I'm not. I was living in Vancouver, there's this mountain range. And it's called, it's like a hike of sorts. But I feel like it is, it is evil. And a couple of my castmates wanted to go and do this thing called the Grouse Grine. Oh, yeah.

It's famous, like, oh, yeah, it's a hike. And we're going to just, it's going to be exhilarating. and like, oh, yeah, let's do it. So they convinced me to go, and I'm pretty athletic. I like to think I'm, you know, I'm equipped. Yep. I did that thing. And as soon as I got to the top, I was like, never, never, never, ever.

I was like, I thought I was done about seven to eight times during the whole thing. And I saw the signs that were like one eighth of the way. I was like, what? So that's the first thing that comes to mind. That's very trivial. I like to know what the first thing is that comes to mind, though. That was literally the first thing. Okay.

So what do we get for our 11th question, which is, what is the strangest purchase you've made or almost made? Strangest. Purchase. That's a good one. I'd like to think I'm not a person who buys words, though. might be normal for you're on the zoom with three women who buy a bunch of weird so you're safe here baby a lot of taxidermy in this house rubby yeah oh no no judgment can you see my wallpaper come on yeah you're a homeowner now what's the weirdest thing you've

purchased for your home jeez this is a great great question i'm so stuck ladies can we come back to it you know maybe we'll buy you the strangest thing like we're going to get you a little like ceremonial urn to put all your contacts in. An urn, you just keep it open at the bottom of your bed. For your contact graveyard. Cross it in. I'm stuffed. We can circle back.

It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia. And on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer. because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.

That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. every day native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream listen to burn sageburn bridges on the iHeart

radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so now we're going to ask you a real highbrow question um who are your favorite writers song writers, novelists, scriptwriters, whatever you want. Ever wrote the song? Are you familiar with this song called So Beautiful by Music Soul Child? Let's Google this.

Music Soul Child. Hold on now. This is what we invented iPhones for. M-B-U-S-I-Q. Music Soul Child. Yeah. It was a big song, and it does something to me. And it just, it does all the things. And there's amazing writers of books. There's amazing writers of all kinds of stuff.

But like, whoever wrote that freaking song. Mm-hmm. That's it. I found it. There you are. That's it. songwriters, Lee Houston, Jr. And then Talib Johnson, who is, that's his real name.

That's music, Soul Child's real name, I think. Yeah, listen, I found it. I'm about to jam. Is this a slow jam? It's a mid-temple love jam. It'll take you to where you want to be. I just muted myself on the Zoom so I could listen to it. It's a vibe.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Come on now. Yes. Also, I haven't listened to him in years. What a great flashback. My God. Right. Right. Yeah. So that's all I'll take. There you go. All right, Robbie, what's your greatest regret? I don't know if I had any control over this, but I feel like I regret not starting to play basketball soon. how old were you because I didn't really I started playing basketball kind of late I tried it when I was a little kid my dad was a coach and he was never pushing the sport on me never pushed it on me and I wanted to play and when I started out I don't know maybe I was like four or five and it's just a bunch of kids running around with a basketball and then they were co-ed teams so the rule was you have to pass it to the girl before you shoot so as a four or year old or five-year-old. I was like, I don't want to pass it to me. So I was like, I don't

like basketball. So I was off basketball. I played soccer from like age six. So I was like 15. That's interesting. And I didn't really start playing basketball until I was like a teenager. Wow. Yeah. And my dad, the reason why I was able to to increase my skills faster is because my dad was a high school coach. So once I decided to play basketball, I was like in 70. for sixth grade and then he just would bring me to practice with him. So I practiced with him and his high school players at like sixth grade. I was just getting beat up and kicked around and he just let it happen. And I had to get better faster. But I feel like if I had to start to playing basketball earlier, I would have been better and I might have been able to touch

that ultimate dream, my first dream of hitting the NBA. I mean, I played professionally overseas for like six years. But I never touched the NBA where I wanted to get. So that was like, that's kind of like a back of mind like man what if i had to start it earlier you know what i mean yeah but how awesome that he didn't force it on you it might have changed how much you love it like you're able to love it now right because it wasn't you know pushed on you yeah yeah i fell in love with it by myself and he was like i'm never going i'm not waking you up to go to the gym you want to go to i i'll help you be the best player you want to be but i'm not i'm not pushing you to do this stuff yeah yeah okay dad

Can we wake up at six of the morning to go show? Oh, be. And he'd be like, all right, I'll set the alarm. Let's go. Let's go. We're like, let's go do it. We did it for years and years. I love that.

Okay. Slightly different twist, but also could be something silly. What is something that you really dislike? Well, first thing that comes to mind is onions. All kinds. Red, white, yellow. shallots green raw onions of any type don't give me no onions on a burger don't give me onions unless it's caramelized I can't taste the onion eating I told

you I'm borderline kind of a foodie yeah he's like do the extra step I am Betty son take the extra step caramelize the onion I hate that too Robbie when I order a Cobb salad and somebody decides to sprinkle raw red onions all over the top of it like I ordered that That is an ingredient. That is not a seasoning. This is my heart right with the food industry. You told you to sprinkle green onions on top of everything. This is like, I'm sorry.

You touched a nerve here. Raw onions. Yeah. I mean, every question we've asked you, that was the fastest answer. I was like, on deck. How many times you've been in a restaurant? You order something on the menu. That doesn't have onions in the ingredients at all.

And you're like, this is going to be. They bring it out and sit it to you, sit it on your face. And it has green onions, just caked all over the top of this thing that you want. Terrible. A little garnish for you. Okay, I have question number 15. And this is warm and fuzzy. Who or what is the greatest love of your life?

I'm trying to encapsulate it all because I think being a father has been the greatest love of my life and I've been able to express the greatest amount of love

in my life and being a husband and all of that so I don't want to leave any I feel like I tell my wife all the time and when we're texting and I just kind of like send a world like the world

emoji and a heart and I'm like you're my world or you guys are my world so I feel like just being a father and a husband has been the greatest love of my life and I feel like I'm able to express the greatest love the greatest amount of love from my life so yeah don't y'all make me cry on this podcast listen don't y'all do it we do all the feelings here. I got almost next for you. I'm covering up. I'm not trying. Okay. Don't you make me cry on this podcast. He's going to have to tap his eyes with that scarf. No, but that's, it's so nice, you know, like Carson McCullors, the author said, um, they are the we of me, you know? Like when you find the we of me, that kind of unit that feels so whole, um, that's a beautiful feeling. That's

what people spend their whole fucking life looking for, you know? You found it, baby. You did it. Yes. Oh, man. Well, you answered this already because it was the first one. You said you were living in your perfect happiness right now. So the question is when and where were you happiest. But I guess my adjustment to this question for you would be other than now, when and where were you happiest? Man. There was some really crazy happy moments.

you know what I'm going to personalize this for you ladies the first day on set this wonderful lady right here down here in the corner of my screen

I don't know which one you're pointing to you your face joy my first day on set Paul Johansson was directing Joy was in a classroom, I believe, opposite me. And I had, this was my first time ever being on TV, ever. What? What?

This is my first acting job. Oh, my God. I had done commercials. I did commercials for like three years. and this was my first job as an actor, first day on set first time being directed by a director first time

people putting touch-ups and the whole everything my first day and I've been studying and grinding and just fell in love with acting and just

and I was like this is so amazing like this is so cool and then the top of it all off Joy was so cool she was so cool and the craziest thing about it is I was watching because I'm a sponge

I'm trying to soak it all up I've never been here before it I don't even know how all this works and I'm like she's full on reading a novel in between takes Joy would have a book and I'm here running lines in my head she's reading a book

and they're like okay first team and she's like and goes right there and just starts delivering everything and just perfect amazing just joy you know her

just joy and I'm like this is so cool oh babe you just blew our minds I'm trying to tell you we would just talk and chop it up And Joy was just like, she was just always so nice and warm and answer any questions I had.

Paul was so cool. I was like, man, what a first gig. Like, you know what I mean? That's great. Yeah. That's great. I love that. Glad I got to be a part of that.

And Hillary's right. You did blow our minds. We all were like, we couldn't believe this was your first gig. And I'm just learning that now. It is just blowing my mind in this moment. I had no idea. fucking way that what I have watched on the show is your first

like acting gig. There's just no way. Yeah. Raw talent. Robby. Yeah, yeah. So good. I sat down with with our, with our EP whose name we shall not mention. Voldemort. Never.

Anyways, I want, you didn't ask me those. That's incredible. But the point is really, and it's so special, I'm sure so many people at home are having the, you know, same reaction you just did, Hill. Like, you are such an undeniable talent. And, you know, we've talked so much about how we all felt so robbed.

Like, and we assume that, you know, the creative team behind the show we shan't mention really regretted, you know, their decision about the timeline of your character because it all just happened too soon. So that's the, that's the least specific I can be about that. But we talk about it a lot. a lot a lot when when you know we're we're doing the other job we have to do um but god yeah you're I mean your talent which is ironic because the literal next question is about talent question 17 is really good at which talent you're really good at this well I know I'm just like it's it's actually

bizarre but question 17 is literally which talent would you most like to have outside of the ones we already has. We know you can act. We know you can play basketball. You're so talented. Like, what's the thing that you can't quite do so great that you want? I wish I could play the piano. Me too. That's my answer. I wish I'm a drummer. I play music. My whole life. I play the drums. And I've always wanted to play the piano. And I try. I could pick it up, play a few little things here and there. But, like, I've always just wanted to, like, be.

that guy who's like oh piano oh no let me just let me try for a second and then just completely just blow everybody's eyes and just sit out yeah sure i'll sit down and play some wait what song was that you like hold on a second you know i mean just like just sit down and just who me oh no this is thank you i mean i've always wanted to be that guy and i you know that's that's that's the answer I'll give you. But that's true. It's very true. Okay, good. I love that. I could see you being like Lionel Richie, right? Just like that energy at a party. Robbie, that's what I see you playing.

Lionel Richie. Yeah. Hello. That's who you're going to grow into. Is it what you're looking for. That's what I want. That's what I want. We learn that for me. Thank you, but I will. Impersonation. I will learn it. Oh, no.

Well, if you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be? I would change where my body fed is doing. Oh. Of all things. Right? What? Because you know how much I love to eat. Well, that's true.

A full-time struggle. Sweet potato over here. Now that I'm trying to tell you, now that I'm, when I was playing basketball, every day, all day, I could eat all whatever I wanted it. just fall off. And I just, ping, ping, ping, oh, me? Yeah. Oh, I've been in the gym.

You know what I'm saying? Now, the guy who doesn't play basketball and the guy who is just being daddy and acting and whatever, like, oh, this is full, I got to watch what I eat. I got, I can't, no, I'll just have, no, I'll have a bite of that. I'll, oh, that's amazing. No, take it away. You know what I mean? As opposed to the guy who eat the whole pan or the whole plate or the whole, you know what?

because every time I start to eat, you see it right here. My face goes from from this to like full moon. And then I get this nice little, this little kind of like gut action will start to fill in. Like that pandemic gut? What? I had a bad. That's what we all become character actors, right? It was crazy.

It took me like a whole year to just get back to normal. during the whole pandemic, I was like, what is this thing? I've never felt this flap of cushion back here. No, we're growing into new people, Robbie. We can be whatever we want now. If you want to be like not basketball, Robbie, you want to be sweet potato, Robbie. I want that for you. Just playing piano, eating delicious things.

Just being super amazingly round. No, not for me. So I've been, I got to stay in the gym a lot, a lot, a lot to just kind of be what you know and are familiar with the robbery that you've gotten used to. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because, it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that

this is something we've been doing for a hundred years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

So question number 19, what do you consider your greatest achievement? Have we not discussed this? I mean... These children, family, there's nothing on this planet that I have done, that I'm more proud of, that I've been a part of, that I'm more happy about. I love that. I had no cool guys. I always know I wanted to be a dad and all that good stuff. And I have a great dad.

And I was like, oh, I'm going to be a cool dad or whatever. But, like, once the first one came out, I was like. Oh my gosh. Yeah. This is amazing. Give her, please. I know. She was just a little loaf of bread.

I was like, oh my gosh. Ah, it ain't, no. It was like an instant connection. And like, I don't know. My whole world has just completely, completely shifted. like priorities, mindset, minute by minute, second by second thoughts. It's just they're a part of every single thing. And that goes into my whole being.

And I had no clue I was going to appreciate it so much and love it so much. That's so cool. That's, I love it. That's, I'm most proud of my family and my kids. It's, geez, thank God for healthy, beautiful. wonderful, wonderful kids, healthy kids. Thank God. That's beautiful. Okay, so we get to the end of this beautiful life.

If and when you are to die, and if you had the option to come back as a person or a thing in your next life, what would it be? I'm coming back to me. No. Yes! Do it again. All right, let's do it again. Honestly, I love it. Take two.

No, that's an amazing question. I've never thought about that. But seeing everything kind of through my two-year-old son's eyes, I would come back as Hendricks River Jones, my son. Oh, that's his name. Bobby, that name is so sweet. I will come back as Hendricks. I promise I'll come back against him.

He is the sweetest, nicest, coolest, just funniest little kid. I'm like, there are a lot of kids out there. I'm partial to mind, of course. But like, this kid, he's, he's been here before or something. Like, he gets it. He gets it all. We take them to the doctor or take them to whatever, and the people are doing little stuff, and they're like, oh, oh, he's, he understands it all. He gets it all.

He's, he's, or my aunt, she's a speech there, speech pathologist, and she came over. And she was, like, just hanging out. She was like, oh, he's advanced. You don't know. And I was like, what? She was like, kids don't talk about what he talks. Age two, like, they can't articulate those thoughts. Like, does he talk about that all the time?

I was like, yeah. Yeah. And she's like, oh, I don't see that. Like, that's just like, that's not your average two-year-old. You know what I mean? And I was like, wow, that's amazing. and just to see a way his brain works. I'm like, I would come back as him.

You know what I love about podcasts, though? I just want to interject. The same way we didn't know what streaming was going to mean, the same way we didn't know, like, what the advancements in our industry were going to do, I just love the idea that this podcast could be listened to 30 years from now and your kids can hear you talk about them in this way. Like, that to me just is such a nice little time capsule.

So I just love that you're able to articulate, like all that affection that you have for them. Yeah. That's so good. So is that then, I wonder if the answer to this is fatherhood, but maybe it's something else. Is there anything in your life that comes so naturally to you? You just know it's exactly where you're meant to be? Pardon.

That was very sweet, too. Oh, Robbie! We made him cry, guys. We did it. We did it. You were so stoic. I just moved on. I didn't realize you were.

like having in a moment. I'm sorry. No, I was not having a moment. There's some wind kicked up in here. He is dusty. What in the dust? If you don't close these windows up, invisible person. You sweet

man. Please ask me that question again because I was lost in the room. No, it's so good. And it's so true. Your kids are going to be so grateful. Yeah, the is, is there anything in your life that just comes so naturally to you? You know, as soon as you do it, this is where I'm meant to be. Every moment that you're doing it, you're like, this is exactly right. Funny enough, you would think it's fatherhood, but I feel like acting is that way. Yeah. And that's not to even pat myself on the back or be like, oh, man, you got this thing. But like, from my first acting class, when I was, like, watching people on stage and doing stuff.

And then when I kind of, like, took my first stab at it, like, was I good? No. But, like, it just felt like this is where I'm supposed to be. You know what I mean? This is what I'm supposed to be doing. I thought it was this other thing, but, like, oh, my gosh. Like, this is the thing. This is the thing.

This is the thing. This is that. Yeah. This is where all my life energy, this is where the fulfillment is. This is where like, oh, like, what? This is crazy. I want to do this all the time. And that was like the energy I like, I was like, ooh, I want to, I messed up.

Nothing ever kind of made me go like, ooh, I don't want to ever try that again. I was just like, ooh, I want to try it again now. You know what I mean? So. Yeah, that's cool. This thing, the acting thing. Like, since I started, I enjoy it. I love it.

I love it. What about you guys? Quick. I know we're on the next question. What about you guys? I'm so curious. God. What's that thing?

I like doing community service projects. It is just the, I can love PTA. I like doing fun. Like, I like being the community lady. It's the place I belong. Okay. Yeah. I like that.

I feel that way about advocacy. If it's not for us, I don't know what we're doing here. You know, so to use. like to use any version of a platform or privilege or leverage or a microphone that I have for equity feels like where I'm supposed to be. That's good. Yeah, there's something about, man, I grew up in theater every time I set foot on the stage and I've been moving my body and singing and acting all at the same time, that whole trifecta.

I'd be split between that and motherhood. They both feel extraordinarily natural to me, just in my body. The first thing that comes to mind when I think of what, where do I feel immediately like, ooh, it's in my body. This is it. This is my comfort zone. It's those two places. Wow.

I love it. Robbie, we have two questions left with you, darling. All right. This is a wish fulfillment one. A wish fulfillment. You can live anywhere in the world. You take the wife, the children, take your friends with you, wherever. Where are you guys going?

One place that I thought I could live and would want to spend a significant amount of time that's not here in the States. Probably be Barcelona. Barcelona? And the food. Yeah. Something to look at everywhere. It's great. It's beautiful. the cobblestone streets yeah it's beautiful and the people in the culture some one of my best friends

just moved there with his wife a couple years ago and they're having their second child out there and he's from the they just moved there and they're just having a great time living in barcelona and i'm like ooh that would be cool uh so possibly marcelona yeah good answer okay okay and question 23. Final. What is your most treasured possession? Hmm. Aside from the urn full of contacts that we are going to give you.

You are stealing my answers. I don't like that. I don't like you. Man, now what am I going to say? I think a younger version of me would have said some person. and I'm like I don't own anybody I learned that that was a young lesson that I learned

like these people don't belong to you you're mine no you're not see I don't want to get too philosophical but I feel like the things that I that I can pass on to my kids like whether that's just like my sense of morality or my sense of spirituality or my beliefs or my faith in God or

you know like to properties that I own or you know monetary wealth or you know just the things that I can take and be a steward and pass on to my children I think those would be the most valuable things and right now it's just kind of more about like beliefs and way of treating people and things of that nature. That's my favorite answer so far. Yeah, that's your legacy. There you go. And legacy is different for every person, but I feel like that that's one way to

describe it, I guess. My legacy is probably my most prized possession, if you can call it that. Yeah. You possess what you've amassed in your experience and your mind and your heart. I mean, those things are a part of you. works for me. You baby, this has been such a lovely afternoon with Robbie Jones. What a date.

You're just saying that because of my scar. Oh, you looked handsome. You gave the sweetest answers. You better go kiss those babies and your pretty wife and tell them that we're grateful for them because they have you in this bliss out place that we get to celebrate with you. Blist out.

It's so beautiful. That's you, babe. So happy to spend it. time with you today, Robbie. Thank you so much. It's great to see you guys. You too, you're wonderful, wonderful people. Well, listen, when everyone's on the West Coast, I'm coming out because I want pie.

We're coming. Pie party. And, man, it's great to see you guys. I hope to see you guys really soon. So much love. I love you guys. Love you, Robbie. And hey, here's to the happy life.

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