Drama Queens - 23 Questions with Torrey DeVitto

Episode Date: August 14, 2023

Sophia, Hilarie and Joy welcome Nanny Carrie herself, Torrey DeVitto, with an intimate game of 23 questions!Find out what she’s done that she’ll never-ever do again, what misstep landed her a bad title and why her life’s calling is to be a “death doula.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.

Hey everybody. We are back. Thanks for joining us. We're going to do things a little differently today. Hillary, would you like to share with our listeners to expect? We're keeping people on their toes. Yeah, you know, one of the stipulations of this strike was that we cannot have guests on to talk about the show. We can have guests on to talk about our feelings, about their personal life. And we thought it was really important that we still, included like all of our one-tray-hole family members but we thought like what's a structure we could follow?

Should we say our schmunch-me-smell family members? Yeah. Oh yeah. The thing we're, the show we're not discussing. The show that shall remain nameless whenever we have. Shmotee-Mage family. A friend on. And one of the things that's, I don't know,

I've always appreciated is a Proust questionnaire. If you ever get like Vanity Fair magazine, This is the questionnaire at the end. It was developed by Marcel Proust, a French novelist, who created a list of personality questions for his friends. And when they would come over to his house, they would have to fill this thing out. And when I lived in Wilmington, I bought a book that was just like a big blank copy of this where it was a guest book. Anytime people came over, they filled it out. And so we're going to do that with our friends.

And I think it's really going to give us some insight as to who they are. beyond who they maybe have played on TV. But it's also a way for us just to give them a platform, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if no one can talk about work right now, unless, of course, as we've discussed with you all, you're honoring a pre-existing contract. And again, we are, and, hello, we love IHeart.

We're not striking against them. They're great to work for. Fantastic. Thank you, guys. it does feel really important that we we figure out a way to continue to support our work family and our friends and, you know, being able to do this with all of you

and your wonderful response to the Q&As that we've done while we were figuring out what SAG wanted us to do with this show. We thought, wait a second, like, let's bring our friends in for these special episodes. So it's a way for us to love on our people and it's a way for us to say thank you to you guys because it was really your response that made us feel like we could do this. So we're going to continue to reminisce just the three of us every other week about our memories from episodes of the show. But we've got this special thing now where every other week we're also going to have our friends visit us.

And we're going to try to keep them relevant to the storylines that we've been talking about. and one of the people who we've already spoken to about their character is very prominent right now. Oh, yeah. We have, before she gets here, we have been living in Nanny Carey Zone. And so...

Oh, my gosh. So much, so much to think about and talk about it, stress about, with Nanny Care. Thankfully, we've already talked to her about most of it during our Drama Queen's tour. So if you're curious about that, you can go back and listen to past episodes of this podcast.

But today, we are going to learn some stuff about Ms. Tori DeVito. We sure are. I love this idea. I love that we're doing this because I think the fans, it's a way that we've been able to interact with them. You know, they don't really get a chance to hear from us or the actors and people that they love in such an intimate, detailed way. It's so rare. So I think this is going to be really fun. And normally we play 20 questions just for you guys.

We're playing 23 questions, and you can derive whatever significance from that you want, you know, wink, wink, nod, not. Oh, she's here. We have her. There she is. There she is. Oh, hi. Hi, honey. How's it going?

Girl, we're just striking our brains out. How about you? Yeah. I just spit on myself when you said that. Same. Same. Just, you know, living. Oh, boy.

Yeah. Where are you? right now. I'm in Michigan right now. I'm actually at my boyfriend's house. And every time I do a podcast here, he's like, do you really do it with Frankenstein behind you? And I'm like, listen, you got to own who you are, babe. Like, don't mind that. I love that. Yeah. But yeah, I'm in Michigan. I mean, Michigan's the only place they live now. So great. Is it a nice to be off grid? Is your show filmed? Was part of it filmed out there? Is it since the strike year, you have officially moved. No, like no, but I mean, I bought a farm in Michigan in 2020 and then I moved here

full time in November and I don't ever want to live in a big city again. I don't. How are you handling the winters? Is it, it's not murder? I'm such a wimp with winters. I love snow though. Like, I love it. I love when like everything is like frosted over and I think it gives you an appreciation for the summer and the spring and all that stuff. I love it. And I love, you know, I'm spoiled because we get to travel for work. So I still get to go into cities, but then I get to go home, which is the best. There's a light at the end of the tunnel. I also think something I really fell in love with when we were all living in Chicago, Tori, was winter in nature is amazing. Like, a Chicago winter in downtown is gross. It's gross. But when you're on a farm, like all those

hiking trails and stuff that we would all go out to and like, you know, you go out an hour, outside the city and it's like winter wonderland it feels like you're in a movie it's so beautiful yeah i love that you get to have that you're not getting like the the black snow sludge like thrown on you from a passing city bus like you're out in you know like the shire it's beautiful the shire um tory has anyone explained to you what we're doing on these guest episodes okay we're going to lay it up for you babe so as we all know we can't talk about our sag after work on any these podcasts and so we're taking this opportunity to play 23 questions and we are using the proust questionnaire as our basis so we want to ask you stuff that maybe you don't get in fan

Q&As and you know we've got like what two or three minutes per question some questions you could speed through and be like, I want to, I want to dedicate this time to something else down the line. You just play it how you feel. But we're going to start throwing about you so that by the end of this, we know you. Like, we really know you. Yeah, we're really good. These are questions you never get from journalists and people curious about your work and stuff. This is really the little Tori. I'm excited. This is the dinner party, Tori. All right. So if you start. Where's my wine? Yeah. all right well by the way it might be winter on the farm in michigan but you tell us first question is what is your idea of perfect happiness my idea of perfect happiness oh my god the first thing i work a lot in the image and so the first thing that popped up is like sweatpants and a bowl of

popcorn and people i love and cozy fires and animals everywhere what kind of animals are we talking about well we're talking about well we're talking kittens and dogs and pigs and goats and yeah those are the ones those are the ones i have slash one i'm into it i'm into it okay well let's go dark what is your greatest fear this is going to sound weird so i have this weird like my fear trips up because not a lot scares me but my fear trips up a lot in weird strange public bathrooms some of them feel like this is going to be really weird dark portals to me and I can't explain why and my biggest fear is that I'm going to get stuck in a portal and shifted into another dimension and feel like I'm still here

and people are going to come into the bathroom and be like where'd she go I can't find her and I'm like I'm right here and I'm just stuck forever what did she watch when she was like eight years old not what I was expecting you to say no it's irrational I understand not really If I say like, oh, I'm going to go to the restroom real quick and I come back real fast, it's because I have deemed that bathroom unsafe for me for whatever reason. And I'm like, not going unless somebody's coming with me or I'm going to wait till the next place we go to. No, Hillary just said, is this, is this like a childhood thing? You've had this, you know, she was joking, but like, did something happen when you were a kid where you're like,

or you see something or read something? She saw something. I know it's weird. I mean, you know, it's weird. I mean, I've always been like, I had this feeling that like, you know, there's other dimensions here that we can't see, you know, like maybe millions are walking around us and we just can't see them. But I don't think there is anything that happened. The only thing I can remember happening in a public bathroom that was like stuck with me as a kid,

I remember I was like seven years old or something and it came out of the stall and these girls that seemed so much older, but probably were only like 12 or something came out and they were like, did you just use that bathroom? And I thought they were going to be like, oh, because you look so clean. We want to use it after you. And I was like, yeah. and they were like, you didn't flush. And I was like, and I got so embarrassed.

But I don't think that has anything to do with this. That's my only memory of a poem. Wow. Dude, I mean, this is probably my favorite thing I've ever learned about you, Tori. I think so, too. My money is that you watched Unsolved Mysteries as a kid because I did. And I was always like, how do I shimmy down this tree to get out of this situation? Like, yeah, you figured out how to get out of the portal situation.

Good for you. yeah yeah genius all right if you could be the best at in the world at something i guess besides escaping imaginary in portals same bathrooms what would that be the best at the world at something i would be the best at being highly productive because i feel like i have so many thoughts ideas and intentions that don't get done because my brain goes so much else or I crap out or I just don't have the follow through for it. And if I had the best production value in my head in the world productivity, I would get so much done. I could save this planet, I think. I mean, not really. But you know what I mean. Yeah. I felt you when you said

crap out. I was like, yeah. Crap out happens on a daily basis. Is that another T-shirt for us? Maybe. Yeah. I crapped out. Every once in a while. when I open, like, the notebook I keep the to-do list in, I look at it and go, nope. Yep. I'm too overwhelmed to even look at it. Not today. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.

It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for the kind of two years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love the pivot here.

What is the weirdest item that you keep by your bed? Guys, I can't believe we're asking grown women this question. I know. It's not going to be crazy because I don't, I actually am annoyed by this. I don't have drawers in my nightstands. I don't either, Tori. And I hate it.

I'm like, why don't I do too? Yeah, but also like, how hard is it to just go out and buy a nightstand with a drawer in it? And I, for like five years, I've still just not. Y'all don't deliver them to your doorstep. You don't even have to leave the house. Yeah. What is by my, I mean, I don't think I have anything particularly weird. I do have some, like, crystals and, like, Mala beads and whatever books that make me feel cozy are by my nightstand and a lamp.

It's not that weird, really. Wakana crystals. I have this one that I don't know the name of. Actually, a mutual friend of Sophia and I gave it to me, Lillian. And it's a beautiful one she got me for my birthday. And it looks like it's like a quartz crystal mixed with, like, other things. things. It's so gorgeous. And she got in Chicago somewhere. So that one sits near my bed. And then on my other side, I have a lot of different blue crystals because I felt like I wanted blue near my

sleeping space. Oh, yeah. Oh, I love that. My whole room is painted in blue, Tori. I love that. There's something about sleeping in blue. Oh, yeah. I agree. Okay. Which living person do you admire the most? I'm not struggling with that one because there's nobody who. Yeah. I'm sorry, because there's too many people. I mean, you can name three. You can have a top three so you don't get in trouble. Whatever. Got no rules.

I mean, there's so many friends. And I mean, I really do not to be cliche, I really admire my mother a ton. I feel like my mom has always had this ability to make me feel like no matter what, everything will be okay, which I think as a mom is like the most extraordinary quality. You know, she can drive me. so crazy in so many other ways, but whenever I'm truly having a panic, it's just like she just knows how to diffuse. And then when I'm not having a panic, she knows how to light me up. I feel like that's become like less cliche as we've gotten older. Like I feel like when you're

like a kid, you're like, that's my mom. But as we've gotten older, I take it really seriously when people say that they have a strong relationship with their parent, you know? That's a big deal. And you know, like my sister and I, you know, I've gone through so much in, like, life and this and that. And, you know, still to this day. And I looked at my mom probably like a week ago. And I said, mom, did you ever think you'd be 72 and still momming so hard? And she's like, no. I actually didn't. I was like, I'm sorry. I love you. So good. Oh, gosh. What is your greatest extravagance? Do you love to treat yourself? Oh, definitely like facials and massages. I'm all about for self-care.

Like, I don't have any qualms about spending money on self-care. I'm a pretty frugal person, but, like, that to me just is so worth it. It sets, like, a good tone for the month or the week, whatever, you know? I just, I love a good facial. Is that, that's your thing, facials. Do you have, like, places that you recommend or products that you want to tell the folks at home about? Yes.

By the way, guys, Tori has the most amazing skin. It really is. When you see her in person, you're just. like a melting. It's so amazing. Says the three who also have the most amazing skin. But yeah, no, I, so I met this woman in Chicago. Her name was Alina, and her products are called Alina Organics. And basically, you can eat all of them.

You shouldn't, but you could. On a desert island, but you got your luggage. Yeah, exactly. What's so amazing is she's the chemists from Russia. And so she makes all these products, and they're so good. And her facial, she does that, like, microcurrent and light therapy and all the things that are, like, very holistic and amazing, but actually you can see the benefits of. And I just, I use all her products, probably for the last, like, seven years, like, only her. I don't use anybody else.

Wow. And I'm just obsessed. And what's crazy is I was nervous when I moved to Michigan. I was like, oh, my God, what am I going to do? But actually, her home base is in the same town as me as Michigan. What? No. Yes.

Is that why you moved here? I know. I split my time. time between two different towns of Michigan. And her husband, the reason she moved from Russia to Michigan is because her husband is a music professor at Western and Michigan, which is so close to me. That's bananas. So I get facials still, even while at the farm. Her business is about to boom, man. Yes. Yes. Oh, okay. Interesting, given the state of affairs at the moment. What is your current state of mind that's interesting my current state of mind i feel you know it kind of ebbs and flows i feel like it

depends on the time of the day it's like if you were to like check your glucose during the day it would be different and i feel like that's my state of mind like it rides with my glucose like it's um because sometimes like i wake up and i look around and i get to be in nature so much living out here and i get animals and i had this stray cat that found me and just gave birth in my house so i'm dealing with all these little kittens that are so... What did you name it? I named her Cosette. And then the kittens' names are Moufet,

because I heard that's how you say skunk and French, because he looks like a skunk. Storm. Alex, after my cousin. And then Mermaid, my two-year-old niece, named that one. I'm into it. And church for pet cemetery, obviously. You're a creep.

Your boyfriend loved that one. Throw it away. So yeah, like I wake up and I feel so calm and so great. And then, you know, sometimes when you think about like everything else going on, you know, like for me, I think when I start thinking about environmentally what's going on, I can go on such a spiral. And then I have to walk away from things and just like focus on one thing at a time. So it's like it ebbs and flows my state of mind. But I think overall it's pretty calm because I try to just do what I can and the things that I can't. do or that are out of my control. I try to be aware of and then set like a time limit of how much

I can actually like fester on those. Yeah. So pretty good. I like a timer. I said timers for my kids all the time. I never thought to do it for like my emotions. It's been 20 minutes. You are allowed to. I guess I'm done. Yeah. I can freak out for 11 minutes and then I got to move on. Don't worry. That's so smart. Forty five minutes of wallowing and then no more. We're done. That's gross. I like that. All right. What do you most value in your friends? I think, like, the first thing I came to mind was grace. And by that, I mean, like, I feel like life is so crazy and I try so hard to not be on my phone all the time, but my love for my, like, I'll do anything for anyone and I'll be there at any moment. But sometimes I won't

get to the text right away. And if I have friends that take that personally, it's just, it's really hard for me. Because then I get exhausted by trying to keep up with so much and also try to to keep up with all. And I hate talking on phone. I'm such a bad phone talker. I actually get a little bit of anxiety when people call me. I'm like, and I have one friend. I only have one friend that I consistently talk on the phone with and she breaks me of that, which I love her for, but she knows I have that anxiety so she doesn't care. She's like, whatever, I'm calling you anyways. But yeah, I think just that grace of like, you have to be able to be flawed around your friends and be like, oh my God, I'm having anxiety over this. Or like, you're coming for five

days. Normally, people only visit me for three. I'm a little anxious about it, but let's have fun. Like, my friends have to know that stuff about me and just love me anyways, because if not, it's just probably not going to work, and that's okay, too, you know? Just manage the expectations. Yeah, guys, uh, three sounds good. Three's good. Okay, I love the way this question is phrased. On what occasion do you lie? Oh, oh When I don't want to make it to my gym appointment Most likely

Oops I'm having cats in the kitchen They just have baby I can't be there My sister took my car I don't know what happens You can't walk in Michigan That's not going to happen

My phone my Uber's broke My app doesn't work I don't know what's happening I don't have Uber here I don't have Uber here I don't have Uber, you guys. I don't have postmates. They don't have Grubhub.

No cabs. No cordial delivery. No door down. That took some getting used to. So you're cooking every night? No, no, no. I'll go out and then I'll bring things home or pick up, takeout. But nobody delivers.

It's crazy. That took an, that was an adjustment for sure. DIY dinner. Yeah. Yeah. What is one thing you'll never do again? a date my ex I'm just kidding I really won't

but here here skydive for sure I was happy I did it but I didn't need to do it again I was like I'm good now we could take that off did you say tie die skydive

oh skydive I was like Torrey what did tie die ever do to you that's a fun crap skydive's different skydive yeah yeah you're glad you did it but you wouldn't do it again yeah i'm glad i did it so i could say i did it i had the experience but i actually had a hard time breathing like i felt like i was in a pool of water and i couldn't catch my breath i was like oh like the air kept going in my mouth

i was like this is not and then i get really motion sick so then by the time we were calmed down i was like just not feeling great yeah wasn't good so haven't you skydut you've done that several times right yeah do you have that same experience no I mean, I know what you mean about the pressure. Like, I think I got lucky because the first time that I went, my instructor was like just, you know, turn your head at an angle to the side if you're struggling to breathe in freefall. So I just, I kind of got a hot tip.

But I don't know. It does something for me mentally. Like if everything, if the whole world feels like it's on fire or things are overwhelming, I'm like, I just got to jump out of an airplane. And by the time I'm on the ground, I'm like, everything is gravy life is amazing. I'm so lucky to be on this planet. What are we getting for lunch? Like, it's like a mental version of a cold plunge for me.

So, yeah, I don't know. That's awesome. I do love, I mean, I intellectually understand that. That doesn't have that effect on me, but that makes so much sense. Yeah, that's so cool. I love that. It's cool to say that you've done it. But I don't get motion sickness.

Like that, to be nauseous in the air, I don't, that sounds like a nightmare. Oh, God. Yeah. I would pass also in that situation. My dad used to say this thing. He'd be like, well, there's only so many ticks in the ticker, which meant like, you only have so many heartbeats and like, you really want to waste them on that? You're like, it was always like, only get so many.

Skydiving is one of those where I'm like, do I want to spend my ticks on that? That seems scary. I'm scary. I also feel like, and I'm curious, like, you know, for us versus, like, for the two of you, I don't think that once I have kids, I would ever do that again. Like, y'all have children. Like, that feels insane. Yeah.

I don't even, like, the hot air, have you guys down hot air balloons? Girl, I don't drive at night. Like, I'm like, well, probably someone drinking and driving right now. I'm just going to stay home. Oh, my God. Exactly. I had an ex-boyfriend or had a boyfriend once who, yes, he is an ex-boyfriend. Anyway, what's the point of the story, Joy?

Yeah. So, but I remember he had scheduled this hot air balloon ride for us. And he told me late that night, it was for very early the next morning. He was like, get ready. We have to wake up really early in the morning because I'm taking you on a hot air balloon. And I was like, oh, I'm not going. No, you're not. Oh, mad.

He still brings it up when we see each other as a joke now. But for some reason, it was like, that's another conversation for another day. But the idea is that you can't, especially once you have kids, like, I'm not getting in a basket that's going up into the sky and controlled by some guy holding a lever to make the fire go. And on fire. Yeah, on fire. I don't do shit I got to sign a waiver for. Nope. Okay.

That was a good question. All right. Tori's name for jumping out of a plane again. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a kind of years. You carry with you a sense of a sense of.

purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What is the strangest purchase you've made? Oh, the strangest purchase. I want to know Hillary's answer to this question. Y'all, it's like something dead or, you know, body parts. four choices. Oh my gosh. I really don't even know. I mean,

I mean, guess being at the farm, you buy weird things. Like I had like a little mouse situation last year and obviously I don't want to kill them. So I bought these like little balls that were supposed to be like

smell repellence for them. Oh no. And what's stranger than the purchase is more the reviews that were on it. Because everyone was like, I put them in my car like glove box. They don't smell that bad. You guys,

I went out of town for a week. I came back. It took over a year for the smell to get out of my house. It smelled like spearmint mixed with rotten garlic. It was disgusting and it lingers. And I'm like, who are these people that have it in their car and said that they enjoy the smell? I want to meet them. I want to meet them.

Yeah. That was weird. Yeah, gross. Who are your favorite writers? Just a total pivot in another direction. Like book writers? Anything. Yeah.

Could be short. Could be journalists, could be bookwriters, songwriters, for your favorite writers? Well, I love reading. So book writers, I feel like Zadie Smith has like a very like flow to her. And it just, it's easy to read and it just really like paints this picture and it goes. And I feel like all the classics have that. And nowadays sometimes, I mean, don't get me wrong. I love like contemporary books.

But a lot of times I feel like it's just like you're trying to be overwitty or you're trying to just use every SAT word. ever known and you just stop his book. And I'm like, we don't need to overcomplicate this. And I just like, so I like the old love like, and I also love Chuck Palinick. I went through like a whole thing. And then I reread some of the short stories I read during that time. And I was like, was very influenced. Not barely as good, but very influenced. Yeah. So I think those are like a couple of my favorites. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anyone I read consistently, but I like Tom Robbins a lot. Oh, yeah.

Danil gave me Tom Robbins books when we were doing one. What is another roadside attraction? Was that it? No. Okay. What was it? I don't know. Jitterbug perfume is my favorite.

It's so interesting. I like when it's like interesting but not too complicated where you're like, what am I reading right now? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, I see. No, it was even cowgirls get the blues. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I read another roadside attraction. Yeah, dude, I think he's Deneal's favorite writer, too. She loves that. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, you guys have a similar vibe. You're both girls with crystals next to your bed. Yeah. You never really met her. I mean, I've met her, but not really. You guys haven't crossed over? Not really. I've met her, but I don't like know her. We never worked together. We never, like, yeah, we never crossed her. We need to get you guys at a dinner table together. Yeah. Yeah. We need to get the five of us and a couple bottles. of wine and go.

Yeah. So fun. Okay, another pivot. What is your greatest regret? Yeah. For all the people listening, please. Let's just dive into the deep end of the pool. You can say bangs.

It doesn't have to be deep. Yeah. Oh, my God. Every time. Bangs. My God, are you kidding me? Every time. My greatest regret.

Well, as of late, My dog just got an eye infection, and I didn't read the box right, and I was supposed to be giving him his antibiotic three times a day, and I only give it one, and his eye that used to look like a cataract zombie now looks like a bright red zombie, and I have to take him back to the vet, and I feel like bad mom, and I regretted so much that I just didn't read the fine print that's on me, and I have deep regret for that, because he's old, and he deserves to feel good, and I feel like a bad mom. Oh, I mean, bright red sounds better than cloudy, right? is it a step in the right direction a little it's scary it's scary but you know yeah yeah poor little guy poor baby right um here's another dark one geez we might have to split these dark ones up what is something you really dislike um when people are eating and you can see the like spit string when they're the stalactite stalagmite stalag might spit I can't do it

It's a problem And it's actually the one thing That I've worried about Becoming a mom myself Like when the kids get the like Glob of stuff everywhere Like I can handle blood All those things

But that like I dislike it so much And then it makes me weird Because somebody's having a conversation with me And it's happening I don't want to be rude and be like You have And I'm like And then I start distracting myself

And looking every which way And then I feel like this girl has lost her mind and I'm like, I just can't look at you. And I can't look at you. I can't look at you. So, yeah. And I hate that when you're in a conversation and you have to strategize when you're going to look at the person, when you're going to look down at your food.

You're like, I'm trying to listen to you, but also definitely can't look at you. So I have to make this feel real conversational and only look up when I know that you've swallowed so that I don't have to deal. Oh. So awkward. And it's terrible when it's someone who you're not close enough to go, right. You have a really gross thing happening on your face. Like, can I just help you?

When it's a new person, you're like, do I say it? I know. You're not, which is the lesser of two evils. And then some people just accumulate more in their mouth, and that's fine. And so sometimes you're like, I don't want to comment on it because what if it's just the way they chew and eat? Like, can I really say something about something how they fundamentally are? Yeah, like, is it the positioning of their molars? Like something they can not control.

You know, like says that and then they forever think about it or have an insecurity about it. I actually once had to remove myself from my dinner table and started dry heaving in the bathroom. And I was like, along my appetite. And my mom was like, honey, you got to get over this. You're so weird. And I was like, I don't know. I just, yeah, I dislike it so much. But also it wouldn't happen if people chewed with their mouth closed like they're supposed to.

That's true. Yeah, you were on the right side of the. that one, sis. I'm going to say. Nobody wants to say it's in your mouth. No, thank you. That's the title of this episode. Perfect.

Oh, boy. Okay, here's a good one. This is a nice shift. What or who is the greatest love of your life? Oh, my gosh. So many. I mean, Right now, my two-year-old niece.

Aww. And my sister just got a job, so I've been on full nanny duty, like, literally, like, five days a week. And spending all the time with her. And there's, like, obviously there's, like, as you guys know, being around young kids, there's, like, a level of exhaustion, but it's so beautiful. And she makes me see things through such a different lens. And it's, like, I don't even know. I just adore her.

I just look at her. Like, sometimes when I'm away from her, I just look at videos and stuff. And I'm like, obsessor. I can't really my sister, who I love so much. She's always been one of the loves of my life, too, is like, had this little baby that has her eyes. And I'm like, just, I love her.

What's she into right now? I miss two. Two is fun. Just like a fun phase. Because they can do tricks, but they also still love you. Yes. And they say things so funny. Do you know what I mean?

The way they say, like, she'll, she's just like, I'll be like, do you want to do this? She's like, yep, yep. And I'm like, who told you? you how to say, yep. Like, where did that come from? Yep. I don't say that. You know, like, yep, yep. She's into mermaids and snails, and then she likes to put that together and has you draw

snail mermaids, which I think is a great invention. How is this not a kids' TV show already? Right. Snail mermaid. It's the strike. The strike is ruined the snail mermaids. That's why. Damn. Exactly. okay when and where were you happiest um i actually probably

and i say ironically because i think to a lot of my friends that are still like in l.A or new york or whatever they're like where's the closest whole foods to you and i'm like at the time it was chicago two hours away and now it's closer it's an hour away and they're like no, no, no, could never live there. But I think, like, just now, like now, I've always craved a slower pace, but I didn't know how to do it, given the industry that we've always been in, and being able to finally do it. I feel so calm and so happy. So I get in Michigan and now. Oh, babe, you deserve that. Thank you. but native culture is very alive.

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That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. all right well while you're living in shangri-la learning all sorts of new farming tips and living your best life which talent would you most like to have oh my god i wish i could like maria carrie sing that would be or joy sing let's just say yep like honestly i would give anything i do it all the time

in my house, in my car, but I just, I can't, because I would have, I would have never even gone towards film and TV. I just would have gone straight to Broadway. I'm like, I'm here. I'm all right. And I can't. And it kills me. But did you ever, like, do, like, chorus or drama, like musical theater in high school and stuff? No, no. I actually feel like I can hold a tune more now because I've just forced it so much. And so finally, like at almost 40, my voice is like, maybe we could if somebody like tuned you right in a movie but no

I never did it on stage or anything I wish I can't even imagine what that must feel like to just stand up and have it come out right like oh it's the best the joy literally literally we see what you did there literal joy

do you have I mean not to break away from the questionnaire but totally to break away from the questionnaire do you have something in your life that makes you feel like when you just like, this is it. It's so, feel so good. It's so easy. It's just, this is where I belong. Yeah, yeah.

You know, that feeling that you're talking about imagining what it must feel like to sing. Like, what in your life does that for you? You know, it's funny. It's not, it's not performing, ironically, because I get so much like anxiety and stage fright. And I love it because I always love the final product and I love doing it, but it just hypes me up so much. So I'm like, when I started like hospice work, being in that space, I remember walking away and being like, oh my God, this totally makes me feel like, I'm doing something that I really feel common. And I like center because it makes me feel like I'm a part of like a different kind of birthing process with somebody as they're dying.

And like that was like the first time I think I ever felt like, oh, wow, I'm so good at this. and like, but it just belong, I belong here. Like, it doesn't, you know, I get why sometimes it might affect someone differently or whatever. Like, I just felt like, I don't know. Like, I walked away feeling like, okay, like, this is a light for me, like, a light. How long have you been doing that? Yeah, so I actually started doing it when I met the three of you during that time. I, yeah, I was just looking for, I actually, like, it found me kind of.

I did a random Google search, not even for hospice. And hospice came up and I was like, what is this? I didn't even know what it was. And so I started doing it, and I just loved it. And now that kind of like took a, it slowed down during COVID because it couldn't be in person. And I liked doing inpatient care. And so now the COVID's over. I'm like, okay, do I want to find another hospice in Michigan and redo the training and all that kind of stuff?

Or I've actually been thinking about getting my death doula certificate. Oh, my, Tori, I had no idea. That's incredible. Yeah. I think, I think that's the next step, I think. But it's like that thing, it's on the to-do list. So we shall get there when we get there. You are blowing my mind right now.

Like that is God's work. That is like you have to have, it's like law enforcement. When you're dealing with heavy subject matter, like you have to have a very specific personality. And I totally applaud that you jumped into that because that is, you know, for a lot of people, a dark chapter and you make it better. for people. Oh, thank you. That's very sweet. It's weird.

It's like sometimes, you know, like you got to wonder, I don't know, you know, maybe past lives exist. Maybe they don't, whatever. But it's like why do we fit certain gloves that other people don't? I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't feel like it's something that I can say like, oh, I chose to do this. So whatever. I feel like it chose me.

And for whatever reason, it fits. And great. But it's not for everybody. And I get that. You know what I mean? But also what a special calling? because it's such an important part of the human life cycle and so many people shy away from it. Death makes so many people uncomfortable. Big emotions, you know, sitting with people's

pain makes a lot of people uncomfortable. And so I think if it's something that you're capable of doing, it's such a gift. Yeah, thank you. That's really sweet. Yeah. Amazing. Well, I don't know if they'll be related, but it feels like not an accident that this is the next question. What do you consider your greatest achievement? That's interesting. I don't know because I feel like there's so many different categories of achievements, you know? Like I feel like just the fact that we have all done what we do for so long and still have so much light and love to give. Not broken yet.

we're not broken yet and I'm doing this far we're kind of good you guys we did it like that's such an achievement you know but yeah just I think like

just navigating this life this career you know we've gone through all individually so many things you know what I mean friendships you know friend breakups

real breakups family stuff death things you know environmental things, worldly things, so many things. And I just feel like getting up each day and choosing to have a positive attitude and looking at it like you can turn a palace into a prison or a prison into a palace. And today I'm making it all a palace.

Like that is such an achievement in itself. And I feel like we don't like pat ourselves on the back enough just for making it through the day. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially for people who want to be hyperproductive, it seems like no matter

what we accomplished, there's still something that we're just looking at ourselves like, well, didn't do this, this and this. It's so hard to turn around and go, yeah, but look at all the things I did do today. Yes, it's like you're always climbing the mountain and just like stop and put up that tent for a second and go, look at all this that I just climbed. She put a timer on it again. That's it. She put a timer on the day. Done. I'm celebrating what I did. I love this. nobody bothered me on celebrating myself today i'm using this i have learned things okay uh if you were to die and come back as a person or a thing what would it be oh i don't think i'd want to come back as a thing or like an animal or tree i mean you can yeah i don't trust other people enough

to come back as an animal that's smart i well two kind of things things. Like I always felt like when I die in this life, I want to be buried as like a mushroom or a cherry tree or something. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But if I actually could be reincarnated as something, oh my gosh, I'd come back as like, I don't know, like Greta Toomburg or something. You know what I mean? Like someone's so much more interesting than me that's like really knocking off that to do list of things that we need to do. you know yeah that chick she's lived a lot of lifetimes you could live a lot of lifetimes for sure for sure yeah i was still playing with barbies when i was her age man i am just i know that the moxie riding my bike till the streetlights came on that was my biggest worry yeah all right all right so you're going to come back as a do-gooder i yeah the hospice thing was definitely a past life thing tory i there's a there's a pattern here i see what's going to I could see that. I could see that. Definitely. Yeah, because it felt so natural too. And I feel like when things just fit and it's just like, oh, I've done this. I've been here before. This is the light for me. Yeah, there's something connected to it for sure. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. So if you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?

I would probably change. I feel like I can be like, I feel like we all fall in. to this like hypercritical of myself or like we've talked about like not feeling like I'm doing enough or you know what I mean or you know if my pants are too tight that day even though I'm like I look at my sister and my my friends I'm always like everyone's I can find something beautiful about anybody except for myself sometimes and you know that's frustrating I wish I could change that because it's like to wake up and just feel comfortable in who you are all the time be such like there's so many other things to worry about and then you have that battle with yourself you're like well i don't want to live in that like space where i'm so hyper aware of myself like why do i feel

this way and then you continue to beat yourself up more over it so i guess just that like hyper critical you know self that i feel like we all have i don't think i've ever met somebody that doesn't have that no our generation with all the shit we grew up with you know like we watch commercials our whole lives that we're like um girl really Is that your best? Here's all the ways you're inadequate. And here's all the things we can offer you to fix it. All the things will try to sell you so you hate yourself a little less.

Congratulations. And it's free. Yeah, exactly. Okay, I think we know, but maybe it is somewhere else. Who knows? Where would you most like to live? Michigan. I love it.

I love it so much. I have the farm. And then my boyfriend and I actually just got a place together. It was built in 1916. So I better see some clothes in their arm. Oh, my dream. So I'm just like, yeah, I just love Michigan. I don't know what it is.

I have such a soul. Talk about other lives. I have such a soul connection to Lake Michigan and Michigan State. I don't know why. I don't know where it came from. But it's here. And so, yeah, I don't think I'd live anywhere else. Tori, this is such good news, man.

I love this for you. All right. We've arrived at our 23rd question. And so we would love to know what is your most treasured possession? Gosh, because I have like three that came to mine. So I'm trying to see I got a three, which was my most treasured. I have this clock in my house that's mounted on my wall, and it's one that you have to wind up. and my parents when they met they um i came around three months later um and they knew they were

going to be together and they wanted to live together and they met while they were traveling and so it was known that my mom was going to go live with my dad in new york and before they got a house and before they went there and within the first three months of their relationship they bought a clock together. And I was like, what is the, I don't understand that reasoning. It's like, we don't have a home yet, but this clock that's about this big makes sense to buy. And I have this little plaque on the inside that my mom had written and said, like, something like our love, liberty, our love is timeless or something like that, which they're not together anymore, so that's fine. But I still have it. And I love it so much. And like, I just think it's so funny. I'm like,

like, yeah, my parents bought that clock before they had a home. We're just meeting each other. And I love it. It's just like a little part of history that hangs in my kitchen. That's so romantic. So unique. It's beautiful. Yeah.

I love that. Oh, man, this has been fun. I would have never known half of this stuff. I feel like I have so many more questions now. I'm just busting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tori, this has been awesome. Are there any partied words that you want to share

with the audience regarding like the strike or our business or what your hopes are for our industry? My hopes, as I think are with a lot of people, is that things will just come out fair. It's not that hard to be fair and take care of people. So that's my hopes with this strike that, you know, the greed will die down and the kindness and fairness will kind of like start building its way back up. And yeah, just to everybody keep, keep doing your thing. It's rough out there, but wake up, turn the prison into a palace and just keep breathing. Thanks, Tori.

Thank you so much for being here. Love seeing you. You're coming, honey. Yay, we'll see you soon. See you soon, guys. Bye. Bye. Thank you, babe.

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