Drama Queens - A True Night Out • EP507

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

There is so much love for this episode for SO many reasons… starting with the fact that filming it was like one big party (that lasted 8 days)! Plus, a bad proposal, an ill-advised hangout and find out what two people had spicy chemistry!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens. Smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl.

Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. You guys, this week, we all watched separately. And so I'm excited to see what rang bells for all of us. I know. That feels really fun. When it's like getting on the Zoom, I was like, did you guys like it? I really liked it. Oh, my God.

I loved this episode. The pace was great, right? Yeah, it was really good. It was tight. That's what you said, Hillary, right before we started. You said it was really tight. And it was Mike Harrow and David Strauss. And they, everything felt very well oiled.

It was everything, all the transition worked really well. Well, Greg was our director, who was also one of our producers, and he directed a lot. So it was really, I think, a very easy sort of symbiosis for everybody on this one. And it's all one location. Yeah. Like the episode ended, and I was like, yo, we spent eight days in one location. Yeah. And it all felt like one awesome night, just one night of drama.

I like it. I wonder if the studio was like asking us to cut our budget or something. And they said, we need to just do one episode. Yeah. We did something expensive. What was it? We were borrowing money for another episode, right? Yeah, that's the thing. When we'd have a really expensive episode, they would pull cash from that, and then they would give us something like this. But the irony is that what winds up being budget friendly in this one makes it so dynamic because everyone's in the same place in it.

It elevates the whole night. Yeah, it felt really fun. Yeah, give them the synopsis. We're talking about season five, episode seven in the club. I'm not going to say done. The club. Air date February 12th, 2008. The entire gang gathers a trick

to see the honorary title perform. And Mia, hello. While Peyton and Haley see this as an opportunity to introduce their musical act, Mia. Carrie sees it as a chance to get closer to Nathan. Oh boy. Brooke sets up Marvin and Millicent on the world's cutest blind date

and spends the night flirting with the cute bartender, Owen. Lindsay confronts Lucas about sneaking off to see Peyton and Peyton realizes she's been lying to everyone, including herself, about why she really came home to Tree Hill. Ooh. All jam-packed.

Loved it. And we had like five songs, four songs. It felt like full songs. We packed so much into this episode. Here's what I'm going to say, we start the episode with honorary title, right? And I feel bad for them at this point because every other musical act that's come on the show

got to do a little acting, you know? like they were like doing a little scene or just some like ad lib lang you know whatever these guys were like shut up and sing just do like do the sing song thing they didn't get to act but also were they just like not into acting like i kind of wonder if some people are like serious musicians were like we're not are you telling me those cute little emo boys wouldn't a love brook davis coming over and been like hey make that bartender jealous i don't know maybe but i like that we were getting big bands that means that we were doing well yes it was so exciting and it really was the season where people really started to want to come on the show because we were breaking musical acts

so then bigger musicians wanted to come and join i have to say all of us being at trick having that opening scene taking shots yay i was like the first time we're drinking together legally oh my god like our character are babies. Yeah. Well, and the drink is disgusting. Grenadine and what was it? Tequila and Grenadine. Yeah, Tequila and Grenadine. Gross. The most popular and the sweetest. I was like, oh, my God. I had such fun with all of Brooks one-liners in this episode. I remember it. Dude, the Brooks dialogue in this episode is so sharp. It's so dialed in. I loved it. Yeah. This was like the best version. even the things that felt ridiculous were so fun to play but what kills me is that you can hear this is

when my my like chronic tonsillitis started to get so bad this was a year before i finally had to have a tonsillectomy and you can hear how shredded my voice is and especially because in episodes where we're you know at the club we have to talk above the music and the vocal strain had gotten so bad that my whole opening speech is terrible ADR. Oh, it is? I didn't even notice. Oh, my God. I noticed it, I guess. But they had me, I had to loop the whole thing like weeks after we shot the episode when I didn't sound so crackly. Makes me crazy. I hate bad ADR. I love the fact that we were in trick because it felt like at any time around any corner, you never knew which storyline was going to happen or who was going to converge into what situation and I know I had a lot of fun that

night running around trying to kind of keep the peace between everybody and making you know making the rounds and hitting up all the it was fun to be able to dip into all the storylines especially because when we normally film an episode you're you're only in a couple of storylines you're not all it everybody's not all converged into each others so it was fun even though it was eight days in the same location it was nice nice to show up everywhere. It had graduation party energy. Yeah. Yay. This was at the peak of us watching 30 Rock. And this is the episode where Joy and I were obsessed with Tracy Morgan's Werewolf Bar Mitzvah. And there's a fan video somewhere of us going, Werewolf Bar Mitzvah Spooky Scared. That's right. I thought this was the

read-a-book moment in time. No, this was Werewolf Bar Mitzvah, and it was so funny to us, and we were just like punchy, the crew was over it. They're like, these kids keep laughing. Yeah, that definitely happens when you've got all of us in one place for a really extended period of time. Eventually, we all just get real punchy and goofy, and the crew is desperate to go home. It's so much easier to control like two kids. Completely. When you've got 20.

Yeah. When you have the full cast and 300 extras, it gets. it's crazy. And I think, you know, something that adds to that is that when you're trapped in the same set all day, so the lighting is the same, like, it's nighttime. So we were doing 16 hours a day of nighttime. It's like being in a casino. You start to lose your mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have no idea what time it is. You have no idea where you are. You have no idea how long you've been there. Like everything smushes together and the temperature is controlled. The sound is controlled. The lighting is controlled. There's just nothing spontaneous.

Yeah. Yeah. I loved it though, man. It felt like, Trick felt to me by this point like a real bar in Wilmington. And it was our hangout. And like some of the extras were my buddies from downtown. They'd be like, man, I can make $75 a day sitting around hanging out with you in a bar. Like, okay. And get fed all day long. Cool. Sounds great. When did Carol buy. satellite because satellite's near there, isn't it? Wasn't that sort of the, it was like she was around there so much all day that she kind of found it or I wonder what that story was. Was that season six that she got the bar? Satellite's still there and Carol and her partner at the time opened it and then my friend became a bartender there, Skyler from He is Legend. And it became kind of this like, oh, downtown's become too much of a scene. We've got to go out to satellite. You know, Like, I was like, oh, you've got to be cool to know about this. Yeah.

They had that outdoor movie screen. Oh, it was so fun. Yeah. I bet it's still fun. I'm going there this weekend. I'll check it out. Oh, you are? Yeah, I'm going.

So I'll pop into satellite, yeah. It's become like a really popular area. They have a cargo district in Wilmington that's really become developed. And now there's farmer market, farmers markets down by satellite and all these other businesses and restaurants. The huge theater, they opened up that massive theater for touring companies. too. Wow. Yeah, it's good. It's exciting over there. But back to Trick. Yeah, back to trick. Where should we start? I mean, okay, we've got a lot of drama with Lindsay Lucas and Peyton. Let's talk about Lindsay because right out of the gates. She wants to go home. That's not

a cool girl move. Yeah. And it's interesting to see her in this new hair color doing a new thing. and you're kind of like, what's, what's going on here? And she is just prickly. She's mad. She's over it. She's done. She's been nice. She's asked, do I have anything to worry about?

And he keeps saying no. And she knows he's lying. And everything is sticky. When you and her both left him at the bar, I was like, I want more of this. Fight, fight, fight. Girl, Peyton has done nothing. Peyton has done nothing but avoid Lucas. and say, here are some boundaries, and I'm going to give you some money,

and I'm above board, and don't say weird things to me. And also, do not grab my arm when I'm walking away from you and pull me close to you and your manly torso. Don't do that. Especially when she's watching from across the bar, nay. Is he dumb? I didn't like it. Well, it seems that he can't help himself.

Yeah, is that it? Can he not help himself, or is he dumb? Take a listener poll Gus also watch this one with me Now that he's watched that last one What's the verdict? He was so excited That Peyton was causing so much trouble

He goes, Peyton's causing so much This town and she's not even trying And I was like, I know, baby That's power No, Peyton's not doing anything And so I feel bad that Lindsay's so frustrated But I also delighted in watching this because when you don't have to lift a finger and you're really pissing somebody off, that can feel nice. Just her presence. The fact that she showed up there. I mean, Peyton came back for Lucas. And everybody knows it even though Peyton doesn't seem to know it at the moment until that she does in the end.

Even though Peyton's trying to be above board, Lindsay's not stupid. She's an observer. She sees what the dynamic is. and more even than her being mad at Peyton, I think Peyton becomes the easy target for how mad she is at Lucas. Because Lucas keeps, to your point, Hillary, seeking Peyton out. He goes to check on her. He leaves the dinner party and goes to trick.

And lies to her about it. And the fact that he had the audacity to say, well, why didn't you tell me sooner that you'd seen my car? And she's like, oh, absolutely not. you should have told me you went yeah i loved lindsay in this episode i loved her and i loved that she pointed that out it was like no it's not my responsibility to spy on you and tell you i am it's your responsibility to be honest with me and she can smell the the denial on both of them oh and she's so classy about it too though she doesn't get dirty she's just like standing up for

herself she says i'll have no problem avoiding patent it's you I'm worried about. Like, they can be in the same space. Payton's not doing anything to provoke her. She's not like seeking her out or anything. No. But, yeah. But Lucas is.

And Lucas is the one that she's... All day. Watching and, you know, obviously, that's what she cares about. Maybe Peyton should have made out with one of those boys in the honorary title. You know what I mean? Just like, sorry, busy. Yeah, but he probably would have told you you could do better again. God, he's insufferable.

well so then you have the flip side you've got all this like kind of toxic stuff going on with that love triangle but then you've got nathan and haley being so flirty and like oh we're going to have the house to ourselves this is the champagne room i was really sad by the nathan haley storyline because it seemed like it was going to be such a nice night i know we need a drama though i mean we have to amp up the nanny carry of it all we got to ramp that up so that it's really going somewhere wow she's so overt it's just amazing to me that he is still just chilling with her there, not like alerting anyone. It's really a choice because that chemistry is spicy. Yes. Yeah, it is. I like that James isn't doing what they've got Lucas and Peyton doing, which is being in denial and saying, no, no, no, he's taken aback by it. And you can tell that it is a bit of a struggle for him. And I like that he plays the conflict, especially given the fact that we know that they've had this really rough year in their marriage. Yeah.

You know, that Haley's like, maybe we're going to get back into our intimacy. It clues you in that they've drifted apart in that way. And I like that whether it was, you know, James Instantiated. instinctively knowing or maybe Greg directing to say like, no, show me that this is hard. Like, of course it would be hard to get hit on by a person like this and, you know, when your marriage is a mess and whatever. Marriage has only been a mess for four months. I just need to throw that out there.

The reminder. And well, by the way, he's not acting on it. But I like that we're not doing like Pleasantville and pretending like it wouldn't be sort of shocking or confronting or conflicting to be on the receiving. end of that sort of attention. And what is so crazy to me is that she goes so far in this episode and then says, watch me swim naked. And then he still says nothing. There was a point where I was like, well, she's really good with the kid. Yep. He doesn't want to get this young girl fired. She's kind of young and being dumb. And yeah, okay, you're in a house with a hot guy.

Like, I get it. I'll just stave her off until. Exactly. And Haley's finally getting a little freedom. Guys, I'm so hot. She just can't handle herself. It's just, I do this to women. Yeah, I make them crazy. But at night when Haley says the thing about being disappointed, and it's such a great callback to when Haley knew that Peyton and Lucas were sneaking

around behind Brooks back. Like she gets put in this position by Lucas all the fucking time. Yeah. He's not making any friends. tonight. No. And then Nathan says nothing. Yeah. Oh, I was like, this was your moment. This was your moment to say the nanny is trying to bang me and I don't know what to do about it. It's really interesting, though, because this is super subtle and I don't think it was intended, but what it reminded me of was when I was watching, I mean, we find out later that Owen's sober and often

bartenders will keep temptation close. Like, excuse me, sober people will, keep temptation close on purpose as a sort of daily reminder and they become bartenders a lot or work in rehab facilities or whatever. So there is a constant reminder of the fact that they are capable of resisting the temptation. And there's this weird, it felt like maybe there was some, I don't know what it is. I mean, I think it was incredibly stupid of Nathan to continue on with this, but there is something in us sometimes that it's like, why do we just keep temptation close? even though we know it's a really bad idea. Why? Why? Why is he doing that?

Well, I did feel for him because all night long, everybody else is just running in circles, right? Everybody's got a drama. Everybody's in, oh, Mia, oh, Mouth and Millie. Oh, Victoria's here. You know, like it's just chaos. Oh, we're young and we're just going to be scattered and crazy. And he's just on his stool trying to be sober. and everyone keeps ditching him and nobody wants to talk to him except for this messy chick and sometimes the devil you know

is good enough and it's like well it's talk to her or sit here and play with this bottle cap you know like I have been a person in that situation where I've just kind of been left up to my own devices and it's like do I really have to make friends of the stranger right now or can I

just talk to this mess and then like laugh about it later with my partner you know like I don't think he was necessarily tolerating her stuff, but what were his options? Yeah. Well, and on top of that, what are his options? And temptation that you're talking about joy, like to be flirted with so boldly, that's gratifying. Of course.

To have someone be like, I would blow up my job in my life because I think you are worth it you go like oh shit you know and yeah and i appreciate that as he's trying to rebuild himself she's playing into his old core messy nathan ego and you can see him kind of having this battle of who he used to be and who he is now and where his sadness is and the way he wants his ego to be puffed up and it all it all felt really human And I like that they crafted that, you know, that as an actor for James and our directing team and the writers, like, that they made something more out of what Nathan's going through than just, like, good talk, girls. I also loved that scene for us, Joy, like, just both of us coming in and being like, and then leaving him. And he's like, where's everyone going?

Yeah, well, that was the scene. Yeah. Thanks for the talk. good talk but there was there was such comedy for him and you go like I feel for that guy he's in a he's in a hard place but man yeah but he did have a chance

is this the first time that Haley and Nathan have gone out since like reconciling it seems so I think so because it was weird to me that she like ditched him she did like who gives a fuck about whether or not Mia plays you know that's not Haley's job and like, who gives a fuck about Lindsay?

Like, she hasn't had her husband in four months. And they're super flirty at the beginning of the night and there's all this promise. And then I didn't know if it was like a subconscious thing on Haley's part, like, well, I had to build a life without you for a little while. So you're going to fit into my mold, not the other way around. Or, yeah, I guess I just figured she'd be so excited to be with him.

Yeah, I think it maybe it was. like a settling into the safety of it all like I'm I'm finally we're finally back to doing what we used to do and so now because it feels safe and it feels comfortable again I can I can trust that this is good we're good we're good to go I can buzz around with all my friends and go check out what's happening in all these different spaces that I haven't really been able to tend to because I've been tending to you and my family and so now everything's okay yeah not really taking advantage yeah because it's Haley's first night on the town Yeah. Like you haven't really been out. No, no. She came out with us. And we saw Nanny Carey the first time. Oh, that's right. But you had a night out with us, which was a little stressful. Yeah. And like you were kind of just getting out of your shell. This is like your first real night out where you feel good. Yeah. And I think it, I think it's part of the youth. Right. Like we're all 21, 22 years old. I didn't know how.

at that age, like to not follow my friends everywhere when we were out, like, your boyfriend, you know, we're just like, we're out. I live with you. Like, who cares? You know, it's, I think it's different. Like, you're speaking from the perspective now of being, you know, a wife and a mom, and you get it in a way that we couldn't have gotten it back then. And I sort of loved, I loved the youth in it because as much as Brooks teasing Haley, like, well, you know, you You'll be in a home by the time you're 35 at this rate with, like, how fast you're running through life. Like, Haley's still, yeah, she's a wife and a mom, but she's 22. She's also being asked to put out some fires, though.

I mean, she's getting pulled around a bit, too. Yeah, because she's the responsible one. Right. So between kind of keeping an eye on Quentin and then having to deal with Mia and then having to deal with Lindsay and it's a lot. Yeah. Is Brooke the only person that doesn't piss Haley off that night? I think so. Yeah.

Because you guys don't fight about it. anything, do you? No, we don't. No. Everyone else is on her list. Yeah. Yeah. I did love that storyline. Gus thought that looked like, he was like, that date looks fun. Yeah. The mouth and Millie date? Yeah. I loved it. That was appealing to him. He's like, wow. Because there was a shot where everyone in the club is like dancing and then you just see these two people talking. Yes. And like just in their own little world, and he goes, they're having the best time out of everyone there. I was like, that's what a date is. I wasn't supposed to be if it's good.

Magic. And they have such great chemistry, and it feels, it feels sparkly. Like, it feels innocent and also romantic. And the way that they leaned into everything, I mean, that game, Ninja Hunter Bear, I was like, this is the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh, my God. I like I wanted to shove that napkin in in Lee's face and be like no you're going to take this and then when it cut to the end and it's the close up of the napkin shot I was like oh my god I get to do it

like I forgot and I felt so vindicated because I was like why isn't brook campaigning harder and then I went oh okay okay it's going to work out like I was like yelling at the TV about what my character was doing because I just wanted more of them yeah they were great they were sweet with each other. He seems like loose and like the Alice sitting there watching everything. Eck. Gross.

Creepy. Yeah. Yeah, it was very voyeuristic. What was the text? I was like watching it on an iPad and I didn't pause it to read the text. It was like I'm glad you're feeling better. Are you coming over tonight or something like that?

No, it was the one at the end when right before she tries to kiss him. She said kiss her and you're fired. Oh. So she says, go. He's like, you know, I think we rushed into it. And she's like, it's fine. Go have fun. And he thinks he's off the hook.

And then she texts him, kiss her, and you're fired. This is so strange. Yeah. I feel like that whole storyline is just cringe. It is. And Brooke finally says what we're all thinking. She's like, this is not the boy that I know. Because he's like, oh, I just can't date Millie right now because I'm up for a

emotion at work. What? What? What are you doing? I know. I loved when Owen was like, yeah, I hate when hot girls hit on me too. What are you doing, man? Are you a lunatic? It was really nice to see everyone have clear perspective on it.

Owen being the new guy and Brooke being, you know, one of Mouth's oldest friends. And I loved, I just loved the way they made the dynamics really clear so simply. Like, all he has to say to Millicent is like, oh, I was pretty. much her assistant in high school. It's so cute and funny. And immediately it puts them in this dynamic together. And it, and it, it does. It explains brook and mouth's friendship in like the sweetest and oddly clearest way. Like it didn't need a whole bunch of exposition or whatever. It was all just flirting between the two of them. And it felt sharp. You said it earlier. The dialogue feels so sharp. And I think it feels that way for everyone. Yeah. Well, when he said

it's complicated and Brooke said well then uncomplicate it I want to say that all the time. Yeah, and uncomplicated. Yeah, I bet you'd be on a t-shirt. Just uncomplicated. Oh yeah, why didn't I think of that? Yeah.

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was Kate Vogel trying to play pool. because... Oh, my God. We, baby angel. Because she did not know how to play pool at all. She hated that. Were you in that scene? Was that just the two of us?

No, I was standing there with you. You were right there with me, right? Okay, I'm sorry. It was the two of you and Kate. And Kate, okay. That's why we started doing Werewolf Bar Mitzvah. Oh, okay. Right, right, right.

Yes, that's right. Okay. But you guys, I remember what a show it was and how stressed she was about it, because we were obviously all at work the whole week and her having a meltdown in like the zone where the cast chairs were where she was just like well why can we do this yeah but did they ask she was like does anybody have a do we have a double for me that can play pool is there some kind of person who really can do this i actually don't know what happened in the end did did we have somebody come in and like shoot for her no i think what i think maybe what they

ended up doing is getting, like lining it up for her, lining it up perfectly. Right. And then getting shots of her just kind of slowly pushing them in, but then like speeding them up in the edit. You know what I mean? This is such an incredibly difficult, first of all, friends, working with props is always complicated because you have to remember exactly on camera. You have to remember exactly where they were, exactly what moment you picked it up or put it down. And so multiple props is extra difficult. Plus, this was Kate's first acting job, wasn't it? She's not even used to working on camera or with cameras or anything.

So she's trying to say lines and deal with her mark and emote properly the way that you do when you're acting. And then shoot, pull. Like a pro. And she has to sing in front of a crowd for the first time. She's only ever done it in the studio, like by herself, really. And just the stress. was a lot. Super, super stressful. Yeah, this was a big moment for Kate. So it felt very good to watch her finish and accomplish that and then get up on that stage and just and nail that song. I loved

that song. That was incredible. Oh, like, I was blown away. And we've all watched Kate. Like, duh, but it even shocked me watching her and going, oh, my God, I forgot that this was the first time that audiences saw her. And she's just so unbelievable up there. Yeah. My note in here is Mia kills. Mia kills. Yeah.

And what I liked is that like, you know, so far she's had like kind of that emo really like, like tight bang, like her hair smashed down on her face. The second girlfriend gets up on that stage and starts singing her hair gets all loose. Yeah, when Fetterline says choke and she's just like, I'll show you. like you choke she got like a win machine my note is kate all in caps killing it yes yep and by the way i wrote this down too oh my god i'm so glad it's in here i feel i don't know if you guys thought this i feel like the way that liz friedlander shot that college basketball stuff a few episodes ago changed the way we shot concerts at trick well did we get a new steady cam operator that's interesting We might have, but like the way, and by the way, maybe it was just, it was Maddie coming in.

Yeah, maybe. But like, the way that Liz created being inside the basketball game, suddenly we're at Trick and we are in the crowd and we're in the show. Yeah. We were just like in it in a different way and it made me feel so hyped. Yeah. Watching her that way. I really, I felt like I was right back there in that room. And maybe that's why the concerts also felt super, in this particular episode, all of the live performances felt to me much more, I guess, able to be, I was able to connect with it more.

Yeah. They were paced up. It felt there was no like, okay, well, when's this over? Everything felt like so paced up because even if the people in the shot aren't moving, the camera's moving. Yes. So you're just always like on a journey during these songs. It's really dynamic. And I love the way that they really figured out how to punctuate the songs with the cutaways to things happening. Like being in a moment where as an audience member, you are rocking out and then suddenly Peyton sends Victoria a bitter shrew. I forgot that Peyton's the one that did that.

It's so good. I totally forgot. I did too. That was incredible. And I love that Owen's in on the joke. He's just game. He's like, sure, I'll play high school with you guys. What's that?

I like the Peyton and Owen have a secret friendship at this point because she makes him send the rent check to Lucas. And she's also like, and another thing. I'm all for somebody else here tonight. Can you get my friend's mom? By the way, her office is also his office. Yeah. Why didn't I have scenes with Joe? I don't know.

Didn't you? You never had scenes? I did. I know you. did. Like, our chemistry is so spicy. Let's talk about it because I love the Catherine Hepper and Spencer Tracy.

I'm better than you are. Let's have a little dig at one another. Anything you can do, I can do butter. Oh, God, I love it. It's vibey. Which is like half the people in this club are wearing my clothes. And he's like, well, all the people in this club are drinking my drink. What a guy.

That's great. It's really amazing. And I loved that he kind of turns her down at the end, just, you know, giving her, it's not a, it's not a turn down. It's just an encouragement to hang on and keep, let's just keep seeing where this goes. Yeah. It's really sweet. And that he's not so quick to jump in. Yeah.

Like, so many people have been with her. Like, I'm not going to take advantage of you. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I'm not trying to be a creep. Yeah. But he's, he's been game to play. with her with her best friend he's supportive with her mom like well he clearly is super into her yes yeah

it's really fun i was like oh my god i remember these scenes being just fun and liking that they brought someone in who had sort of like this complimentary energy yeah like brooke and owen have a really interesting sort of two sides of the same coin vibe to them and and I agree. It was fun to watch. Yeah, he's really different from a lot. Like, Lucas and Nathan are brothers. Duh, they kind of have a similar energy.

They want to be the hero. I don't think Owen wants to be the hero. I think Owen wants to do his job and go home and, like, feed his dog. He wants to play with his dog or something. Totally. Yeah. He's so that guy. Yeah, like you guys seem like you're in a lot of drama right now.

I'm good. I'm going to go walk my dog. but I love the banter between all of them I love that he does like he gives you shit about your mom but then at the end he's like you're acting your age your mom isn't like he just validates

I loved that your feelings because that shit with Victoria was dark that was sad yeah yeah yeah it was hard it was hard to hear her say those things and really special

that, you know, someone who, whose attention she wants sees her in a way that isn't just, yeah, I want to take her on a date. He's kind of like, I see you. You're going to be okay. Yeah. She's in a rough spot. She's not used to that night. That's so tough.

Yeah. Dealing with your mom, trying to publicly embarrass you on purpose, trying to manipulate everything in your life. I mean, she said I can embarrass you out of town. Can you imagine? No. And her just out on the dance floor with all those people and like, oof. But it's interesting that as terrible as it is, there's a nice human motivation to it for Daphne because she says these people are not your friends.

They take from you. And while she's wrong, you can see how a parent would think that. Sure. your friends don't need you isn't that what she said people who are friends she said friends don't use you and brook says neither do mothers oh it was use okay i thought she said need and i was like what an interesting choice use makes more sense friends don't use you yeah neither do mothers i mean for the human side of victoria she really thinks she's doing her daughter a solid yes She legitimately thinks I have done right by my child. That's the best way to play a villain. Yeah. And I love that that's clear because you see why she behaves the way she does.

And because Daphne is so freaking good at her job, you also see when she's calculating, will my daughter's relationships with these people put my relationship with my daughter in jeopardy? and so it's it's parental it's motivated by business it's all these things she also might not be wrong in terms of i mean opening up close over bros in tree hill it's in the middle of kind of nowhere i mean why would she open a high high end boutique there it was before like internet orders you know what i mean yeah like we weren't ordering stuff off the internet yeah it's not that she on on a fun fundamental like principle of the matter, she's necessarily wrong. It's just that there's just more to

life than being right or wrong, you know, and having a relationship with her daughter. And it's your business to decide what you want to do with it. What is, if Brooke wants to succeed or fail, if she wants to take a leap and try something wild and crazy or try a new thing, that's kind of a, I mean, that's the tough part about being a parent, right? When they, you just, learning the times when you take your hands off and go, okay, okay. You're going to be great. Yeah, you're going to do great. Good job. Sadly, I don't think you're going to do great is in Victoria's Wheelhouse. No, I don't think so at all. No, because she doesn't have the take my hands off thing. It's like, no, I'm going to fix everything for you so that you don't run into the same problems that I ran into.

Let me just handle this. Yeah. But she's not letting you live your own life. Dude, the only thing I could think about in those scenes where Daphne's like, dancing and it's supposed to be a joke. Is how hot she looks. She's so hot. Is how hot she looks, but also it made me so paranoid because I'm supposed to go out with my husband this weekend and like, we're going to go somewhere where there might be some dancing.

And I'm like, are there going to be young people in their time making fun of me? They're going to be fun of me. I can't wait, but also I'm horrified. Yeah. You just dance your heart out. Don't think about it. Yeah. Guys, I wish I could look like Daphne in that little leopard print top.

Good stuff. I was like, I don't want to, you know, objectify anybody. But. But. I'm staring. Daphne's unique. And speaking of objectifying, you know, we've got Nanny Carey with the dress. She's like, I'm just so worried it's going to fall off.

I loved it. They were like, you know what works well and trick is a really small red dress. It worked on Rachel. It's going to work great on Nanny Carey. Nathan can't resist. Our writers really love a little red dress. They love it. So Quentin was there, too.

Oh, yeah. How is he getting in? Is it still in all ages bar? I'm confused. It seems like it is. I guess. I don't think you could have, because remember,

when we had all ages nights, they'd put all the liquor away, right? Yeah. I think it's just that he's got a fake ID. He must. But isn't he there with any of his friends? It just seems so weird that he's there by himself to see the honorary title. He's just, like, dying to see the honorary title.

This kid. I will say it's interesting because when you think about all the nights that we had at Trek when we were all in high school, there was always liquor at the bar. Yeah. But there was an all-ages club. I thought they put it away. I thought when we had Trick Nights, there was no liquor there. No.

Because Karen was running it. I think maybe that was like the first. first night and then everybody was just drinking there all the time. But we had this fun like all ages place. We used to go see bands when I was in high school and they would huge sharpie and X across the top of both your hands if you were underage. So like there was no way you could go to the bar and order a drink. They were just like, nice try washing that off in the bathroom, you ding-dong. So I, pardon me. he's like we should have gone if we're going to have high school kids there we should have like we should

have done something to make it a little clear embarrassing yeah no he for sure has a fake ID did you guys have fake IDs yeah I didn't I didn't oh I did I'm sure everybody else I knew in college though not in high school girl I had a fake ID that I got the first week of college in New York City and then I got that job on MTV right away and everyone knew I was a brand new freshman in college and so I would have bartenders be like, we know you. You're a kid. You're not 21. And I developed this scam.

I did two years in Europe first. Yeah. No, I would say, you guys, are you that dumb? It's TV. Of course I'm not 18. And they'd be like, oh, that's crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah, you just let them think they're in on a, you know, I'm going to tell you the secret.

Oh, my God, that's amazing. Big ID is cool. Don't take tips out there, kids. Yeah. No drinking. Come on. Hugs, not drugs. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

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Yeah, but I'd still like the addition of Quentin in the episode. I mean, it seemed a little strange that he was there, but it felt right to just have one extra complication and just a reminder that he's around and he's still a part of what's really going on. I thought that was cool. And if your family is the only family taking like a real interest in him and, you know, showing him unconditional support, even when he's being just like a brat, it would make sense that he would gravitate towards your spaces and just be like, oh, what are you doing here? It feels good when you're a kid to have the gaze of an adult that thinks that you're worth something. Yeah. And he's got three of them in that bar. And he showed up for Haley in the end when Jason smacking Haley around and trying to assert his dominance.

I did not like that. I don't think Kevin Federline did either. No, he was really nervous to do that. He felt, I think I said this in another episode too. Yeah. He was really like, well, this is okay. I'm sorry. Yeah.

So sweet. Yeah, he was stressed about it. But I guess I like that it wasn't that he just came to Haley's rescue. it's that he also came to Nathan's rescue. Yeah. And the one thing that was confounding for me is, like, why Haley was so mad at Nathan. That felt irregular to me. I thought so at first, too, when I was watching it, I was like, oh, damn, I'm getting mad.

Why am I so mad? And the more I watched the scene, the more I thought, you know what? No, I get it. I do get it. She's right. He's just jeopardized everything one night. And it destroyed his family and his life and his future. And everything fell apart because he couldn't control his temper.

He just couldn't get it under control. Even though he's defending someone he loves, that's not the way you do it in certain circumstances. Obviously, Haley wasn't being physically threatened in a way that was dangerous for her, in which case, yes, that would be appropriate for him to step up. But, yeah, I think Haley was right. it's such a trigger the last time he got in a bar fight he wound up almost paralyzed exactly and and so i think the anger is not just about what were you thinking you almost hit that guy it's it's the what were you thinking for any of this it's why didn't you go home with me that night of your sneaker launch yeah why like why are you like this why do you do this and and i i loved how much came out because i felt like it wasn't

just about the guy in the bar who slapped her ass. It was all of it coming out. And I was like, oh, there it is. It's like, it's got to get out somewhere. Yep. Because how could she ever, when she was dealing with his rehabilitation, you can't get mad at somebody who's, I mean, he's in a wheelchair. Like, you're helping him heal. You can't start blaming and pointing fingers. That's not going to do anybody any good. But now that he's well and he's up and about and capable of stepping in and trying to fight a guy and then tries to do it? Oh, man. No way.

Yeah, you're right. It's all of it. It's all of it from before that she wasn't able to get out. Yeah, I felt like it was older stuff and I liked seeing it. Okay, that makes sense. That makes total sense. But honestly, like, if we're in a bar and some dude who has been a prick comes up and slaps our ass, like, what do we expect our part?

to do because I know what my partner would do. Yes. And it would probably like result in prison or at least like a YouTube or like a cell phone video online, you know? Something messy. Yeah. I agree. In normal circumstances, yes, that's what I would expect to.

If he didn't under normal circumstances, I would definitely been mad driving home. Like, really, you just wanted to let me take care of that by myself? It's cool. I'll handle it. No, I'm not that I expect him. like, I want him to do it. It's just that I know what he would do. Like, I can anticipate his moves.

Yeah. But I legitimately don't know what Nathan should have done. Like, use your words or just walk away. Yeah. It's tricky. Eventually, yeah, walk away. But I think it's right that he's put his presence there in between Haley and Jason and was like, I'm here. Are we done now?

but I just don't like that he tried to push it further. Yeah. What's nice is that it all works. Like you get it from every angle you get it. And I thought it was such a good scene. Well, because now he's got this other chick like, ooh, weird, she's mad. That was actually, like, awesome of you.

Yeah. Yeah. I would love that. I want someone to defend me. I bet. Man, she is so bad. Well, the end of the thing. the episode was a big surprise. I thought that when Peyton walked up to Lucas's house and Lindsay

was crying, it was going to be because he broke up with her and she was about to like walk out the door and say congratulations, Peyton, you got what you wanted. I fully thought that was coming out of her mouth. Big surprise. Big. I remember every scene that I shot with Chad in this episode, every single one because you just develop like a territory thing over your acting partner. And after a while, it starts to feel like it's really easy to slip into because you're like, yeah, God damn it, why are you following me around? Go be with your other person. And then, okay, great, you're going to push it and push it and push it and push it.

Fine. I'm going to kiss you. And you're going to have to do with it. And many kisses are back. And I was so pleased with that. Wait, was this in the school? that you guys break apart and then he kisses you back? Or was it like a...

Yep. Yep. Lucas always leans in and kisses her back. Yeah. Super important that it wasn't just like he fell into the kiss with you, that he stopped and then decided to go back. Yeah, he went in. And it really, it reinforces the energy that Brooke then gets to tell Peyton she's a witness to

and say, Lindsay doesn't stand a chance. trust me. It's always been you too. Which Haley then becomes an actual witness to. Yes. But that's it, right? It's like, Haley gets put right back in her high school position with Lucas and Peyton. And with Nathan. Yes. And then you get this thing. I realized that it was a really cool device that they used in the writing where everyone saw it. They saw you guys break. They saw him come back. and then it was a cool device to make Brooks' dialogue to Peyton be the way to say what everybody was thinking. Like, I got to answer the question for the audience.

Like, it's always been you too. And everybody knows it. And like, I like Lindsay. I'm not trying to be rude to her, but she just doesn't stand a chance, babe. And you said what everybody was thinking. It's all true. It's all true.

Exactly. And it felt so celebratory. Like, they're hugging. Peyton's like, I'm going to go get me. Come in. I'm going to do it. I love when she's like, well, if I came back for Lucas, would you come back for it? She goes, duh, Lucas, came on, bitch.

Oh, I loved it. I just loved all those little tiny moments where it's the friendships feel real. They really do. And I get the magic of the show. Like I, when people are like, oh, we watch the show over and over and over again, you know, for a long time, I was like, yeah? You know, I watch it once. I could watch that episode again. I loved feeling like a part of that gang.

And all of those lines, you know, these zippy one-liners with each other. Like, tell me I don't look like my mother. Tell me that Lindsay's a bitch. Lindsay's a bitch. My mother's a bitch. You know, like everybody. And so are you. And so are you.

And you look just like her when you're dancing. I just love the pace of it. I can't say it enough. I just felt like real friendships. Yeah, it was so great. And it was nice to have, you know, these emotional beats inside of something so punchy. Well, and even the exact opposite of that,

when, you know, Haley comes up to Peyton at the bar and it's like, hey, how you doing? And Peyton is kind of like, oh, sorry, I didn't want to bug you. I know that you're handling some stuff with Lindsay. And you can see it on Haley's face, but she's like, come on, man. Like, make it easy on me. This shit sucks. Yeah.

Why am I back in high school? That's real friendship where you can, like, roll your eyes at your friends and be like, guys, come on, I'm tired. I wanted a nice night. Yeah. That girlfriend energy is solid. I dug it. And Lucas totally loves Peyton.

He does. Why did he propose to Lindsay? I mean the only thing I could think of is that he's like it's too volatile it's too unknown I have a sure thing right here and that's what I'm going to take I'm taking the sure thing um I don't think that's it no as soon as because I was like oh my god Peyton's going to go and they're going to talk and whatever and then when I realized what was happening and she does the like uh-huh I was like oh my god I have this memory it's a little hazy but I'm 90% sure that Lindsay find the ring and he sees her with it and then proposes I mean he had that dream where she found it yes and he proposes to her and then Peyton's all naked on the bed well she didn't find it she walks in the room and he's holding it and she sees him holding it in the dream but I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly I think she finds it and he sees her with it and it just happens Oh, she's probably trying to empty her drawers out and go pack and leave somewhere and finds the ring in the drawer.

He's a bad hider. Why would he put it there? In the sock drawer. What a dummy. Come on, poet. Do better. Yeah. Have an imagination, Lucas.

Put it in your mom's room. At least. Yeah, the room you don't sleep in? Yikes. I'm going to keep my desk in here and my ring in here. I'm going to keep everything in here. But that, the look on your. face is so good. And the look on his face, like, it, it was so, I was like, oh, my God,

oh my God, oh, my God. The look on his face, he's so shark-eyed, dead-eyed, looking at me. And I didn't like that. That felt like sociopathie to me that we could just share this moment where I'm like, I love you. And you love me too. And be like, okay. And he's like, I got to go talk to Lindsay. Yeah. Awesome. You know? Let's settle this up. And then for Peyton to see him just standing there all dead-eyed, that freaked me out. But that's still, like, what a coward. I'm sorry, she finds the ring.

But, like, you were literally going back to break up with her and she finds the ring. And you don't have the cahones to go, like, I'm sorry. Listen, I was going to propose to you. Yeah. He's got an out with that. Like, oh, that's Keith's ring for my mom. Yeah. That was my mom.

yeah but again I think it plays to the youth at 22 you go uh oh did the three of us get engaged

when we were in our early 20s because we were scared maybe dag tushay you nailed that one Hillary and nailed it damn I'm sweating

yeah I know I'm so uncomfortable right now I wasn't gonna drag us but now that you've dragged us that's what I meant.

Guys, we made poor choices. Or you're like, well, obviously, yes. Yeah. No, I totally understand Lucas right now. Just like, yeah, safe, safe, safe, safe. Oh, God, it's happening. Yeah. What's the safest move I can do right now?

You always think you can fix it later? Right, right. Self-preservation. You're like, you know what? There's time. There's time. I'm going to figure out a solution. No.

You know, there's flowers and shit. You got to jump off the train when you got to jump off the train when you got to jump off because otherwise it leaves the station. It sure does. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years.

you carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving

to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, Influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. So did we miss anything, you guys? Because now we're all incredibly uncomfortable. Well, we missed a fan question.

Let's throw this in and I'll ask you guys because this is for you too. Yeah, let's change the subject with this question from Daniel. It is about husbands and partners. Okay, great. mention that your husbands have not watched the show but if they had to watch one episode of your performance, which would you have them watch?

And or there's like a little caveat to this. If they could have made a guest appearance on the show, what character would they play and why? I mean, Jeff auditioned for Uncle Keith. Yeah. And I don't know if he tested for it, but he like definitely

came in a couple times. He would have been great. He would have been great and that would have been weird. would have been so weird. I probably still would have kissed him, but it would have been weird. Yeah. It would have been like us weekly fodder, you know? It's cold, Hillary.

I took that bullet for you. Don't worry about it. Our writers really put me in the firing squad for those. You said it in like season one. You were like, what the hell, man? Like, everybody kissed everybody and you were the only one that got shit for it.

I was like, I know you're welcome. Yeah, you're the only person that got in trouble for kissing people. Meanwhile, the rest of us are like, you'll do. It'll be fine. Who would Grant be? Well, the funny thing is that Grant would be the hot bartender because my husband is a hot bartender.

Yeah. Like, the minute you get to our house, he's just pouring wine and opening things. Dude, when we were in Vegas and he just had, Grant was like a magician. We'd walk down a hallway. Yes. And he'd have like a crystal glass full of tequila

for anybody that walked in. And we're like, Oh, yeah. Where's this coming from? Yeah. Magically. I just look down and find a drink in my hand. I'm like, oh, how did that get there?

No, it's honestly incredible. Like, he is the, who's a famous magician? I don't actually. David Blaine? David Blaine. Yeah, he's like the David Blaine of drinks. And it's lovely for me. He's the Chris Angel mind freak.

Yeah. And like, he's so cute. I'd flirt with him the way I was flirting with Owen in this episode. I don't know what episode I would say they. have to watch though because not one where we're having sex with people oh no never yeah um definitely not but i we haven't seen them all yet so i feel like i don't know it was thus far i would say probably something from season five because i love this season so much yeah yeah yeah although jeff should see the episodes that you did when ellie was dying like the one she did when she was dying

like yeah it's so nice to have your spouse be proud of you and you did such great work in those episodes That would be, I would pick that. Well, and he and Cheryl have known each other forever. Oh, that's right. And they're like pals. I think it would trip him out to see his like lifelong friend play my mother. Like that would be a weird thing. But no weirder than him playing Jensen's dad, because Jensen's been my long time friend.

So that's a weird thing when your partners and like your peers also can play your parents. That's a very CW thing to do. Very CW. soap opera c w yeah what do you want grant to watch i i just don't know like i i love this season so much but to your point joy like i think there's sort of formative brook davis things that if he were going to watch i'd want him to know about but i don't know i i don't know that i could pick something has maria watched any of the show now she's bored with it she's she's she's She's seen it. She's like, wow, you look like a baby. Gus was bored with it until this year. Like, there's a change that happens when they hit like teen teen years. Yeah. So maybe next year she'll be into it. Probably some of her friends will start watching at some point. And then she'll be like, that's what it is. Because we're watching Gilmore girls right now. So they're starting to all be like in that phase. They don't want to think that anyone at school knows more about you than they know. And so then they just like want to do the homework. They're like, oh God. Oh, God.

What do you mean you had a psycho stalker? What are you talking about? I, you guys, there were these two girls at our show tonight who got tickets. I don't know if they were in the front front row or the second row, but like the front rows in our theater are very close to the stage. We came out for our bow and everyone's super emotional and we're having like a thing. And this girl, it was like an involuntary reaction. And this girl looked like she was 15 years old and just stood up in the middle of the audience applauding and went. And I was like, oh, geez, like, it scared the shit out of me.

One of the other actors jumped, and we all were just like, that's not what this play is, but thank you. Yeah, close over bros. And I was like, wow, they're still like, they love it. It means so much. Yeah, they were like these sweet teenagers. And I was like, whoa, okay, the teens are still coming. Like, there is, like Gus is into it now.

There's something about it that really, I have 16-year-olds. me in the airport and come up and say, I'm sure you guys do too. It's amazing to me, the age range. I'm like, you're not alive when this show started. Hey, I'm so glad that you still recognize me. That's great. Thank you. Good news. Tell your mom, I said, thank you. That's right. But wow. As gross of a line as it was, I always laugh and think that we're sort of like Matthew McConaughey and dazed and confused. Like we keep getting older, but the fans stay the same age. It hurts. Oh, I can't wait for Maria to watch.

Yeah. Yeah. You playing like the iconic teen mom is going to blow her mind. Yeah. I'm also curious when she's going to be into it. Like when the line changes. I don't know. I honestly don't know how much she'll be into it.

She looks at my face every single day. No, dude. No, because it's not you. It's a totally different person that looks like you. and they get invested in it. Yeah, because they're just like, I'm learning a secret right now about my parent.

Right. And it's wild. Yeah. I'll let you know when it starts. Isn't there that scene where like Haley's tipsy? You had like a drunk scene. That'll be funny for her. Probably.

Well, the one that I, when I eat pot brownies with my sisters in later episodes, that's funny. It's going to be great. Yeah. Well, should we spin a wheel? I think we should. God, I loved this episode Most likely to

Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na Talk their way out of a speeding ticket Oh my. Not me. Hillary. You guys, it is me because I have this thing that I do. Okay, so when I moved to L.A.

And I did not know my way around at all. And I was just, I was not good in L.A. And I would get pulled over all the time for either driving, like, way too slow, trying to like read maps and things or speeding through shit just because I was on a terrible mood and so I would get pulled all the time and the officer would come up to my window and be like how we doing today and I'd be like not great and they'd be like okay ma'am where do you live and I'd be like I don't even know like my husband and I are just constantly traveling and like we're

in Puerto Rico one week and they were in New Orleans and they were in New York and now I've got to be here and I don't even know what the fuck I am and I hate it here and they'd be like Oh, are you pregnant? And I'd be like, yes, I am. And they would just get so creeped out. And they would be like, ma'am, you need to get home. Are you okay or do you need an escort? Yeah, I think they need to understand.

Sometimes people are just having a bad day. A bad day. And if you can, if you could just give them the laundry list, sometimes you'll meet someone that understands and sometimes you'll meet someone that's like, well, I'm going to add on to. it. I need y'all to know that about a minute and a half after I said my husband would play the hot bartender on the show, he just walked in and snuck me a box of French fries and a glass

of red wine. Grant for the win! That's awesome. I love you. Honestly, what a dream. And to be on brand, I'm recording in my husband's garage. Like maybe he is Uncle Keith. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, we're in the garage. You did marry Uncle Keith Hillary. I did. Hey, who on the show can talk themselves out of a speeding ticket? Bevin? The answer's always Bevan.

It's always Bevan. No, but I want to say Haley because she's friends with everyone in town. Like everyone all scattered and Haley's there and like her husband's like the NBA recruit and she's a big deal. Yeah, everybody would probably cut her some slack. She's a teacher. I feel like Haley would be the person who would be like, no, just give me the ticket. and they'd be like, no. I'd be like, you're right.

Look, I was going four walls over the speed limit. You're absolutely right. I should have a ticket. Yeah, it'd be like, calm down. Yeah, I think you're right about that. Honestly, I can't believe they never wrote Brooke Davis getting herself out of a speeding ticket. Well, she would have tried,

but that scene would have been at the end of the scene he still gives her the ticket. 100%. I mean, we all got arrested. That doesn't bode well for our skill set. I have never talked my way out of it. a speeding ticket. I've only had two of them, but still. That's funny.

All right, ladies, what's our honorable mention? I liked when Brooke told mouth and Millicent. She says, fall in love, get married, and sit me next to a hot guy at your wedding. And I loved that level of awkwardness. Like, what a way to put your friend on the spot. Fantastic. Line date. So good.

What about you guys? I liked that band. And they really were very good. They were great. I'm sorry. I keep forgetting the name of the band. Honorary title. Honorary title gets the honorable mention from me.

I liked them. He liked how like all their hair was in their face. He's like, and everyone looks tired. And I was like, yeah, that was kind of the emo vibe back then, baby. It was the vibe. I'm here, but I don't care. Yeah. I'm just singing sad songs.

I got to give my honorary mention to Joe Mangonello. Just like he played it all so perfectly. And that thing of like, maybe when you grow up, I was like, ooh, that is a line. Yeah. Yeah. Who's going to come in and be worthy of Brooke Davis? Like, impress me.

Hello? Yeah. Loved it. All right, you guys, next week we have season five, episode eight. Please, please, please let me get what I want. I feel like I remember this episode. I know this one. you and I fight in this next episode.

Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. It's going down, friends. All right. We'll see you next week then. All right. Hi.

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