Drama Queens - Goodbye Danny Boy • EP 911

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Just grab your box of tissues now because this goodbye hasn’t gotten any easier after all these years. Just ask Paul Johannson who joins the queens for a final farewell to Dan Scott. But this recap isn’t just a tear-jerker, it’s a jaw-dropper! Hear why Paul almost passed on Season 9, and why he’s glad he didn’t!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Same. This was actually one of those that halfway through, I was like, man, I know with everyone's cities and jobs and time zones, it's really hard for us to watch and record all on Zoom. And I was like, I wish I'd just been able to cry with you guys. And then I was like, but we wouldn't have made it worse. We would have been having to stop every like 10 minutes for me. I mean, I really had a sob fest this morning. I had to pause several times to just weep and then keep going.

I would have loved to have just been able to make eye contact with you guys because there were so many moments that I, A, just were completely new to me. A couple that I remembered, but I would have just killed to have you guys in there to be like, what? I was thinking about you

with so many of the flashbacks. I was like, oh my God, Rob's having another one of those moments where he's seeing things he's never seen. Funny you say that, because I actually found myself, at first I was just going like, wait what, wait what? And then I stopped looking at him because I feel like, listen, if I do run it back with One Tree Hill, I don't want to already be privy to like the 10 biggest surprises of Dan Scott's run.

And I saw after they're doing all these cuts, right? And after like the second one where I was like, what the hell? I was like, I got to stop. I got to stop. It's almost like you're spoiling the show for yourself. 100%. I don't want to remember him standing in the street getting hit by this car if I watch this again. So I completely, every time he started to flash back, I just closed my eyes and looked at my phone.

You pulled the kid in the movie theater? I'm not looking. I'm not looking. Because it was all so good. As much as I love coming in and asking you guys, like, what was that scene? I'm finding myself more and more interested in what it is. And then also going like, but this is the fun of watching it. And if I know the biggest twists ahead of time, that kind of robs the joy from it. Yeah, you're right.

Oh, like you wait for you to watch the first few seasons. I know. First six. I'm excited for you to meet V1, Brooke Davis, and kind of hate her. But have it be hard for you to hate her. It's going to be completely because I don't know those versions of the characters. So it's going to be interesting. We should, well, let's talk about this one, though.

This episode, this episode. Season nine. Episode 11, Danny Boy, aired March 21st, 2012. Synopsis reads, The Search for Nathan has come to an end, and Dan's life hangs in the balance. Oh, boy, does it. Brooke is surprised when her father returns, and Clay and Quinn reconnect with Logan.

Written by our very own, Mike Harrow and David Strauss. Boy, did they write a good one. I know somebody else who might not have seen this episode before, and we called him to see if he would be available to come sit with us and talk today and we got them. Can we bring in Paul Johansson, please? Let's bring in our Danny boy.

Oh my gosh, I'm such a huge Paul fan. I hope I don't make it weird. Hi. Hi, handsome. Well, hello, hello, sir. You just get more and more handsome every year, Paul. I think the word is older.

False, sir. Well, whatever it is, it's working for you. Mm-hmm. I'm blushing. I haven't seen you guys. in so long, I'm actually blushing. Did you hear what we were just saying about you? No.

Well, half of it was nasty, but the other half was so lovely, you probably would have blushed even more. Right. Well, I mean, you know, my humor only goes one direction. It's the darkest secrets of the world. It's good to see you, friend. You too. Hi, so.

Hi, Paul. You had us all sobbing. Just sobbing in this episode. My God. Have you seen this episode before? Like, did you just film it and then we're like, I can't watch it back? Have you ever watched it? This one and the last one, actually.

I've, the fans will probably not like this, but I probably've seen 25% of One Tree Hill. Oh, we all have two. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's kind of what we're doing now is watching it back because we hardly watched any. Because I think when you're like, you guys know why. I'm not just say this for the fans. I think I'm not a particular huge fan of seeing myself. I'm too difficult on, I'm too hard on myself to allow myself to appreciate what they see,

which is this character. I just see, I could have done that better. Oh, that line land right. Or, you know, where was my head? Or the blocking, you know, whatever it is. I'm one of those people. So and I and I and I'm actually the same when I watch other people's work too. So it's hard for me to get so but the good news is we are in the golden age of television and the work out there is probably the best it's ever been. So I'm really in this time in a weird way. It kind of would be cool to see sort of like a what is that what is that what they call the dark marble kind of like you know AI stuff. I'd love to see a dark. I'd love to see a dark. York One Tree Hill AI version of all of us.

Do you guys know what I'm talking about? You know, it's funny you say that because yes. And half of me goes, oh, that would be so fun. You know, almost like the upside down episode from high school. And the other half of me, I got to say it. People are already making such weird AI of all of us with old One Tree Hill photos. And I hate it. Yeah.

It makes me feel so uncomfortable. It's so creepy. And I know people mean well, but to see yourself, but it's not yourself, and then you're doing things you never did. And I just think, I can't explain it. It makes my skin crawl. Yeah, yeah. How much darker can Dan get, though? Dan's already in the upside down, man.

Also, that. I was going to say, I want the dark thing, like, just for us to watch on a Zoom that's not for the public. Yeah. But then, Joy, you're right. Like, we could all go dark. Where would Dan's got go? I have a small treasure trove of fan fiction I've written over the years for One Tree Hill, and it gets real racy. So if you guys ever want, I can just send some your way because...

I think I can pretty much guarantee that there's at least one episode that opens with Dan looking hotter than Dan Scott slash Paul Johansson has ever looked, which is a tall order to begin with. walking through that warehouse and slow-mo, just one-handed cocking the shotgun. I know that's not the episode we're talking about, but last week, all three of us were like, wait, are we in love with Paul? Yeah. Like differently than we already are? Are we going to run away with him? What's happening?

It was a big conversation whether or not I was going to do it like that, you know, sort of like the walking tall version or whatever it is, you know, from 70s, whether it was just going to be like one of these things. And I kind of was just like, let's just go full, you know, let's go full 1970s, bad boy, vibe with it. Yes. You know, in a weird way, I think, you know, Craig and I often kind of joke about having had switched roles at one point in some sort of dream version. It would have been cool to like him be me and me be him in a weird part and see how that would have played out because that was originally what I wanted. I went to the writers before we started shooting and said, I really want the Keith part.

You know, when I really wanted it, and they were not having it. They're like, no, no, you don't get it. You don't go. And I had no clue. So, you know. You had no. I'm so glad that you didn't. You know, what you're saying about the work out there right now being the best it ever has been.

You know, the industry's changed so much. And what we're seeing on TV is such, it is a departure from what it was in the early 2000s. We're getting a lot more gritty, a lot more real raw performances. And it's funny as we watch back our show. I'm really proud of the work that we did. Like, there is so much that we were, I guess being on a show for that long, at some point, the higher reps kind of take their hands off of it, and they just trust us to do our job in a lot of different lanes. And so I feel like we got to do a lot of that. But you certainly did in this episode.

You really, really shined. Shone, shined, whatever. man the scene with you and Nathan on the river court this is like you and deb which by the way Barbara I'm sorry to be so ADHD I don't mean to take us on a million trails but like also watching Barbara in this episode as soon as she walked in I was like wait where has Barbara been the last 10 episodes or the last six why wasn't she at Haley's side every second of the way but anyway yeah your performance Paul really blew me away in this one I don't think I've ever seen you do work like that.

It was beautiful. That means like the world to me, especially coming from you guys. I think Barbara is a movie star and should have been a major movie star. Yeah. He has everything, all the good. She's so talented. Your guys' stuff was so perfect, like tonally as well. It opened with a joke and then it got sweet.

Dan closes it with the quickie joke, which is like perfectly on brand. him. But yeah, the river court scene, just so unclear, that was, that was Dan sort of just having a fantasy of what he wish could have happened, correct? I kind of thought it was Nathan's fantasy. Or maybe both of them were there together? But yes, I had the same thought where I was like, Paul's doing exceptional work. And what, again, people who like aren't in the industry don't realize is you just got a script with essentially like three straight pages of dialogue and people don't understand like not only is that such an undertaking just to remember but then to like have to play all the levels you you did it effortlessly and it looked it just

looked natural and easy and yeah it was it was terrific work paul it was beautiful no love that thank you you know i want to i want to get to all of that but to joy's point we just want to shower you and then i'm like wait we actually have a job job to do, which is to recap the whole episode. Something I love, and it actually ties into what you were saying, and we spoke about this last week for 9-10, how there was this really amazing balance between seriousness and almost like a sexy 70s heist comedy that you, Austin, and Tyler were doing together, and that it started in this great way, because it's you and Austin, you know, and Dan and Julian are arguing, and Julian's very like, what are you talking about? What are you

done, you know, freaking out and you think it's going to be this odd couple moment. And then you don't expect Chris Keller to pop between the two and go, is that guy dead? And you do all this really amazing stuff that is somehow able to tow the line between absurdist and funny and so real and high stakes. You're a perfect straight man. Exactly. And it really hit me in the opening of the episode, that you manage to continue it, even though things have gone sideways. Chris is gone. Nathan is with you. Julian's driving the car, and I just love that it opens with you being like, it's the switch in the middle.

Yes. And you're like bleeding out in the back. And it's so serious and scary, and it's also so deadpan funny. And I caught myself being like, yes, they kept what was so good with the three of you in nine. 10 going in 9-11 and then the way the story starts to weave together you know rob asked questions paul last week about the timeline of the day and even the fact that you three drive by on front street you drive by karen's in the tree hill cafe and you see brook still dealing with that that ems crew and you realize this is how it all happens brook hears it on the radio she calls

Haley. Like, suddenly you understand where all of our people are. And it's such great balance and it's such great storytelling. Was it fun for you to watch that as a director? Because I know as an actor, it's hard to watch. But as a director, were you like, oh, good cuts. Oh, good reveal there. Or were you just like, I really hate watching myself on TV? I did. I watched those ones. And like there is a tremendous amount of craftsmanship that goes into a show with 20 leads. There's a lot of work that comes down into intermingling and weaving together things that have to be resolved because you brought them up and then you have to find a way to make them pay off. And that's high level work. And I'm really glad you pointed

out that that's where the credit should go. You know, again, I really, you know, we are we have an exceptional cast i just want to quickly say that working with those two guys it brought back a lot of joy for me you know because i really it made me that really brought you know a lot of just just going to work and having something like that to do with those guys and i mean there's nobody like tyler i mean i i i love him and i follow him on on social media because he always makes me smile. He's a genuinely good person, you know? And it's kind of almost like I'm in awe of that

because I just, you know, I don't, you know, I still live in Hollywood. I don't see it every day. Yeah. He's a genuinely good person and a very talented guy. And everybody I know knows him. You know, he's friends with like big movie stars and everybody.

They all love him. And we were lucky, I think, to have him on our show. I think he brought a great deal of levity. What memories do you have about filming these episodes? I mean, this whole sequence of like, I kind of wish you've been able to be here with us for the whole run of this Serbian mafia storyline. It's just so funny. I just would love to hear any behind the scenes memories that you have from the whole thing

and leading up to this. It's funny you should say that because the beginning of season nine was, was very difficult for me to come back and do the show because, you know, as you know, the showrunner called me and had, you know, kind of said, hey, listen, you know, once you come back and do the story arc we've got for you, but there's a, there's a, there's a hitch. And I said, oh, okay, tell me the hitch first. There's no, no, no, I want to pitch you the story first because you won't like the hitch. So it hits me the storyline. I was like, that sounds amazing. I'm, that's, and he goes, great, you got to take,

a 30% pay cut to do it. And I said, oh, well, I have family. You know, I have a kid. And I have, you know, I mean, wow, that's, God, I wish you would have led with that. Yeah. So I ended up doing it, and it wasn't, I didn't do it for the money, obviously, because it was just such a good story. And I wanted to, I wanted to finish this character off right for the fans and they deserved

it. Tough way to swallow it, you know, to come to work and know that I'm, they just, you know, and I basically got my income. I'm only saying that because it was the story to me there after nine years. And you got, you know, I didn't want to miss seeing you guys. That's such a manipulative tactic, A, that he led with the story. And B, what's also tough about it is that

so much of this season nine rides on you. Yeah. So if anything, I think there's a very valid argument to be made for, hey, we have a storyline we need you for. and you can ask for a little more money. You know what I mean? It's wild to be like, hey, you're the one guy

who can really land this plane for us and could you do it blindfolded? Like, it's weird to be handicapping the person you're asking to really bring it home. Considering how much money the show had made for the studio and the producers. Did you hear the music in this episode? Every single artist, I was like,

I know who that is. I know who that is. Yeah, right. They could have pulled one of those songs. Yes. It's rude to ask your actor to pay, less money when it's like, it's like cold play, Florence in the machine, this. Yeah, yeah.

No, we're not hurting for cash. I got paid because I got, I got to see the people I love, you know. Of course. And really, I thought I could really, I thought I could really bring a lot to that, to that. But it was a, it was just, you know, it was just, I guess in the end of the, at the end of the day, it's really, you know, we're, I've always felt that this is the luckiest job in the world. I've always, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm never.

grumpy on set because I'm always giddy about being there. You guys have been affected by me so you know like I come like how are we going to mess things up today and have fun doing it because I don't have a few spontaneity. So that's how I feel. But that being said, just to go back, it was it was beautifully written for me and in order for it to work, you had to have eight years of set up. Yes. Yeah. So that's what played so well, you know. I have a, to that point, I wrote so much in my notes. I found myself kind of like waxing poetic about Dan, but I just want to share some of these

thoughts because I really think Dan is one of the best characters in television history. And that's due to you, I mean, like 90%. There's like, there's writing involved for sure. But that's all, like, devices to get us from point A to point B. And what you did with this character made all the other things possible. But the reason I think this about Dan is because I think it's one of the best mirrors for humanity that I've ever seen. Like, we love to hate him because he feels what every one of us feels, but we don't act on it. And Dan does.

He's a titan. So it puts us in a position where we sort of get to feel superior to him because we're watching this guy. do all the things that we would never, even though thoughts pass through our mind, but we have self-control. We don't do these things. Oh, we have too much morality for that. That's right. Well, Dan doesn't. So he does what he wants. He's a titan. He's wrestling with his own humanity. He's pushing on every boundary. He's stepping on whoever he needs to step on. He's climbing and he's racing to arrive at what he thinks is the top of the mountain, which is that kind of ultimate power control that we all like secretly wonder if we had that would we finally be happy like in all the

ways in our personal lives where we're in small ways trying to have power and control over things because we're just trying to reach some goal that we think if I get it then it'll make me happy so Dan comes to the end of his life and realizes there is no top of the mountain it's a loop and the vulnerability the very thing that he's been trying his whole life to escape, which we've been watching him do for 10 years, the vulnerability is the key to reaching the one thing that he's always wanted, but he could never get, which is to be loved, because love cannot be forced or bought or manipulated or coerced or demanded. And there were people who did love Dan, but he didn't know how to receive that love,

knowing all the horrible things he's done. And receiving love requires surrender. I'm almost done, but like these are all my, thanks for your word. book joy i'm just going to say that i'm just like best seller fingers crossed um i i just cannot think of a more fundamental human experience to watch unfold over the course of 10 years we spent nine seasons as an audience feeling superior to this guy judging him hating him but in the end he holds up a mirror to all of us because dan did all the things the worst parts of ourselves want to do but in the end he still had to surrender in order to receive love.

That message is so, it's a big rainbow over life. It's a big overarching. This is so much more than just a character on a TV show. That is the mirror. That is the road that we're all walking down on some level. Yeah. And to piggyback that joy, one of the things that really hit me, Paul, watching you do what you do, which is not just watching you deliver.

this storyline, but also listen to your coworkers in these scenes, what made me sob over and over again in these moments you had with people was we saw Dan finally own his behavior in ways that he hadn't before. And every single person when you said, I'm so sorry. Like once they heard I'm sorry was able to say, I still love you. Like, yes, this horrible thing happened, but I still love you. And you got to hear it from Deb and you got to hear it from Haley and you got to hear it from Nathan. And it was like, that's it. And we've talked about this a lot. You know, a couple weeks ago, Joy, we were talking about how do you practice your integrity and your morality and, you know, the human desire to want to believe you can forgive when you come up against the most horrific thing.

And, like, it's an exercise. You can't just be, you know, a little poly puritan and, like, do it. The day Dan kills Keith, everyone isn't going to be like, well, if you say sorry, we'll forgive you. It takes time. And there's something about this storyline and you being the person who could do it for the show. Like, not just for Dan, but for the whole show. where we got to see the human struggle of depravity and reclamation and complicated forgiveness happen and how much time that can take and how hard it can be for people and that you'll fall

down but you just have to keep getting back up. And like to Joy's point, that's why for me and clearly for all of us, you are one of the best television characters of all time because we don't get that. We get like, wrap it up in a bow, solve the case of the week at the end of every episode and move along. And like, this is a truly human journey. Yes, on a show that rides a shark a lot, but like a truly human journey. We read books about families that go through stuff. like this that get written after the patriarch dies the family has never dealt with it before and then someone writes a gorgeous story right but to see it and to have it modeled for a decade and and to watch this show whether you've been dan scott or you've been deb or any of the rest of us and go oh i wonder

if i could own it and change i wonder if i could say i'm sorry for the hundredth time and mean it differently and have a different relationship with the person that I love and that I hurt yeah hello and your ability Paul of all the things that you've been through in your life the history that you carry with you and the way that you interpret that into your work that you don't just separate the two and show up and say lines like you bring this deep deep deep well of making poetry out of difficulty and you bring that into your characters and into your and you certainly did it here. I don't think Wintry Hill would have kept going without you or could have existed.

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That scene at the River Court, I thought, was the, It was the perfect encapsulation of, and we've talked about this before where it's like what happens with Julian, I don't know if you, since you haven't seen all the episodes, Paul, but like there's the storyline where Julian accidentally leaves one of the boys in the car and the window has to get broken and there's a whole blowback. We talked about how like if you just saw a newspaper headline of like man leaves baby in car, you'd be so quick to judge and sort of be, you know, be better than or, you know. And then, but then when you actually get to see the person, you realize, like, wow, it's a human being. It was a simple mistake. I feel like if you can do that with Dan Scott, you can do that with anyone. And I feel like that was the challenge of the episode. And that scene at the River Court is where they really stuck the landing.

Because it wasn't easy. It wasn't like, because I'm a bad guy or he's a dickhead. It was grounded in like very honest, simple human feelings. Yeah. You know? And so I think that's where it was so successful. Because at the end of it, you find yourself, if you can have empathy and compassion for Dan Scott, then you can have it for everyone. And people can have it for you.

If you see yourself as the Dan Scott of your own life, you have so much shame and you're carrying so many things that you've done. You're not beyond redemption. It also struck me as such a lesson really profound at the time, right? Because the idea that phrase, it gets better, was really launched in the early days of our soul. social connectivity to try to help people not give up, you know, to be an anti-suicidality rallying cry. You know, like it will get better. There will be people.

You will find your people. Things will be okay. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but eventually. And it struck me today. Like we talk about this a lot on the show, Paul, how things were, we got it then, but now with, you know, all these years more of life experience. and hardship and heartbreak and great moments too, but all of it, that we see these storylines differently

even than we did at the time. And watching you deliver that performance that like eviscerated me as a viewer and as your friend and as your coworker that had nowhere to hide from my tears. I just was like, oh, God. The fact that you were able, to in this role encapsulate an experience that I think so many people have had, which is,

I know you're trying to help me, but I'm in so much pain that your hopefulness is painful to me. It's so human. It's why, you know, 12 years later, with way more access to things in our social connectivity. People follow therapists that don't treat them that are like, actually the thing not to say to a grieving person is this. The thing you maybe want to say to them is this other thing. Share how you'll be there for them. Share these things. And to have a man like Dan Scott, a titan like Joyce, say to us, this hopefulness hurt me so badly that I acted out of my pain in the most horrific way. It's like watching an elephant. sit down. You're just like, what's happening? I've never seen this happen before. Like the king

of the jungle is having a moment. And the two of you together, I mean, he's obviously not here today, but you and James, the way you play this father and this son, to watch you have this experience and the wisdom of the writers to give us the conversation that was happening at Dan's bedside in the hospital, but put it on the river court and have all of us wonder, like, wait, did Nathan bust him out for, like, a final night? I thought it was a flashback, maybe. And then when you stand up, what it did for me was when you stood up and said, let's play a game, I was like, oh, my God, he's dying.

He's dying right now. Oh, God. He's hallucinating. He's, oh, my God. And it, I'm sorry, I guess, don't cry. It, like, it just crushed me. and you two were so beautiful and even to hear Dan say like for once let's not keep score

yes so good the release of all his stuff in like his dying breaths with his son goodbye that was the perfect button for it where he said yeah let's not keep score for once let's just play to play And I was like, oh, I finally got there. And the happiness on your face, like the joy we got to watch you have of, you know, finding this other emotional level. To Rob's point, like, only you could have landed that plane.

And we could only have had such a profound lesson from a character. We'd spent 10 years loving to hate and hating to love. And like, holy shit. I don't know if you ever look back on it and think, like, I really did some things on that show, but I hope you do. Yeah. Let me just say two quick things. One is I've, for as much fun as we've had laughing at the absurdity of season nine

with its ridiculous twists and high highs, I feel like we are getting treated so far. I don't want a jing stick, because we still have two episodes left, but like to the longest, best wrap up of a series. last episode was the was the action it was the comedy this episode was just all of the feelings and I just felt like man it's been such a service to the fans and and I'm like now I'm here for it like we went through it was like we went through the awkward years of puberty and junior high school to now be beautiful and flourishing our senior year of high school and the other

thing though is that like I'm so grateful that you chose to sort of honor the character and show up for the fans in a situation where you rightfully could have said no because you weren't being treated respectfully or fairly. So, because I mean, we can't talk about season nine. If Dan hadn't been there, that's literally, it's the spinal cord of the whole season. Yes.

Of the whole show, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm saying specifically season nine, though, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the through line? And so, you know, as a fan who has come to love Dan Scott, I'm glad, I'm grateful that you showed up and you brought it the way you did because, man, it's great. I'm going to loss for words.

I didn't expect to be invited to here today and to be spoken to such appreciation. It means a lot to me what you guys are saying. And I don't think about it that much anymore. You know, I'm living my life and I'm grateful. But I know, I don't think about it. But as we talk and having been requested to go back and look at the show, you know, last night and today, a lot of things came back, a lot of stuff, but how I walked onto the set for that one speech at the rivercourt

and prepared myself about 25 before I came in on a lot of really deep diving on, you know, having spent years embodying a character that was reviled by people and holding that inside and feeling, you know, never being invited to, you know, be part of the promotion of the show. Like none of the adults were, not just me, but, but, you know, all the older characters have kind of been, not that it's not that it mattered to us then, but having such, you know, looking back on it going, you know, would have been a different experience had there been sort of a way to share this with my sweet friend, Craig Schaeffer, who, as you noticed me back to health when I couldn't even play my own party, had to play it for me off camera for those guys.

I mean, just great people, you know, you know, but the county debt characters are essential to this show, too. They brought a sense of female empowerment and strength standing up against, you know, a behemoth of a man who just bullied the hell out of them and they offered their children's freedom from him and it's just stories that I see in real life too. You know, it's, it's, it's beautiful that you guys are saying these things to me.

I do, I do have to acknowledge that, you know, again, it's, you know, giving the right tools from, from, you know, the creative side of it, the creative writing side that we don't, we're not really much of a part of. I usually just take the script and do what I, can with my character and go, how would this character that I know want this to come out in the way that we play it? Because to me, it's always playing. I just keep myself open to whatever's

happening. My favorite thing is, you know, when it doesn't go the way I expected, that's my favorite scene of the day. Yeah. You know, but to end, just to end this, that scene in the river court was something that I did do a lot of work saying up in my head was, slow down, don't sell it. It's not a fucking presentation. It's a personal experience. Slow down and do it for you, Paul. Do this for you. That are important to you. And if they're not coming out the right way, that means you're not dialed into what this is really about. This is a scene about a man who's laying in a bed and he's his last prayer. To me, when you guys say, whose version was it from? For me, I played it is if I was talking to whatever maker I'm going to, saying, hey, man, I f*** up, you know,

can please just be understood for a minute? Just can somebody understand me? And so I'm transported this river court with my son, and it's like, oh, God, thank you for picking him. That's the one. And it was all outside of me. It was all like a sort of like a biblical experience for Dan. And then when I had a chance to say, it's not you, it's me. it's not you it's me live your life love your child go hug your wife forgive yourself you did

nothing wrong it's me it's not you will you please please take from this at least the knowledge that that i loved you i'm flawed but i loved you and and i just all i need to hear is the two words no three words i guess i forgive you and once you say that i can be set free and when he when he gives that to me um that's when i can play basketball that's when i can go to see with Keith. That's when I can move on. I can't until you forgive me. But how can you forgive me if you don't know me? Because nobody sat there and asked me, how you do it, Dan? How you feel? Yeah. Yeah. So I kind of made it about, about me all, like playing Dan and gave me. So if that's what you guys are resonating, then that means I did my job. So it's powerful. It's really beautiful.

Well, we should probably jump into your criticisms now of your performance. Get ready. You've had all the niceties you're going to get, sir. Somebody make me stop crying. God, please. Okay, no, that was that we needed to shower you with that much love and appreciation. But we should also, we'd be remiss if we didn't discuss the rest of this episode because this was, this was a great episode.

It was so good. I loved the first time Haley sees Nathan. And the sweet exchange of high hails. Say that again. And Haley says, say that again. Yeah. I thought that's the perfect. All she wants to do is hear her husband greeting her.

I remember shooting that. I don't remember anything particular about it other than just the feeling of knowing what a big deal moment it was. Yeah. And the choreography had to be so specific of. bodies parting at certain times so that everything could we could see each other and get to each other and yeah I remember it feeling like a big deal and it really paid off I love the way that it looked I watched your eyes during that scene all I did was watch your eyes and I was like nobody plays searching panic like joy just watch your eyes your shirt beautiful thank you that's just

my internal daily monologue is there anywhere safe for me anywhere at all yeah waiting for the other shoe to drop it felt so special and so interesting it struck me watching that you know to your point joy understanding the technical side and you know paul you've directed a million sequences like that you know for our friends at home to to move on a study cam through the hallways get to your mark stop make sure all our background actors are in their own sort of ballet which looks, you know, natural, like the flow of humans, but it's actually quite complex to get all the timing right. And then to bring these people together in the hallway,

it struck me that it was one of the only moments of real, like, deep breath relief happiness we've had in the Tree Hill Hospital. Like, it's always absolute shenanigans and a nightmare and someone's going to die in the hospital. Yeah. And there was something so interesting about that scene between the two of you being the opener, where we all got to collectively take that deep breath. You know, you knew that the audience was finally going to get what they'd been begging for all season.

And suddenly the hospital for the rest of the episode is like a cocoon. It's this really safe place for all these characters. They get to have these moments that they have. that they haven't had before. And it was really interesting to invert what that set normally meant for us. And I thought it kind of lent this like subconscious, something is shifting here.

And then I felt the shift everywhere. I felt it in Haley and Dan when you took Lydia to see him. I felt it in Nathan's scenes as a father, knowing he could probably lean into town, telling Jamie it might be okay, but that that wasn't the right thing to do and that he needed to prepare his son. I felt it even though you weren't in the hospital, Rob, in your moment of continuing to show up, you know, continuing to knock at the door for Logan. And then finally saying to Logan when he was like, well, you know, you went to wander and you were like, no, I wasn't wandering away. I was looking for something and it was you.

So good. I was like, oh, my God, our dads. Like, dad, that's my title for the episode. Dads. Yes, from Dan to Nathan. And then watching Nathan and Clay, I was like, oh, my God. And even Julian, you don't really see us with the kids. But Julian being able to stand there and say, I'm happy I could help.

He was holding you up, Julia. Oh, it was just so special. And Julian, how about just, he's just so steady. He's such a great partner. Like, I love the fact that Brooks' dad blows back into town. And for once, we think she might be getting the dad she deserves. I bought it, too. Hook, line, and sinker.

I was like, finally. Yay. And I just, I loved how Julian saw her the entire time. Like, when she was upset, he didn't have to ask why. He knew exactly what it was. And he was on her team. And I was like, man, because kind of going back to the thing of, like, all dance got wanted was to be seen and to be understood, right, which I think is wildly universal, right? And I just love that

for Brooke in this moment where the person she probably wants more than anyone to love her and to know her is completely missing the mark. Here comes her chosen person who's like, I see you. And there's something really interesting when I reflect on her storyline. The reason the father relationship felt especially crucial to her is because not only is she hoping to get a do-over with her dad she's hoping to get a do-over with the scenario she went through with her mom without it taking so long and involving so much hardship and involving so much betrayal she's hoping to rebuild you know she says it many episodes ago to victoria when she's like oh what makes you think he's going to change and she says you did so in a way i realized in this episode that what i was witnessing between

Brooke and her dad was like a double letdown. And Julian really takes on that mantle of a partner, like everything. He's really ahead of household in that moment to just say like, it doesn't matter what's out there. What matters is what's in here. And it reminded me a lot of last episode when you guys had your conversation, Paul, when Dan is pressing Julian, you know, why do you want to do this? And what are you really here for?

And is this about your kid? you're not even really friends with my son. Like, you really try to push his buttons. And he's like, because he is my friend. And I believe we should show up for people. And he just keeps showing up. And it's a quality that I think is so tremendously important. And I also liked, here's my ADHD brain being like, ping, this other thing.

I loved joy that you had the moment, that Haley had the moment with Julian to acknowledge who he's been and what he's done. because there's never been any fanfare for him. Yeah. And he doesn't need it, but he does deserve it. And I love that you guys had that little moment in the hospital together. It was really sweet. Me too. That really showed me the scene between you and Julian felt so much like,

this is the power of one, the power of one person. Because when I'm looking at Brooke objectively, like this woman has, talk about looking for a safe place. her mom's not safe her dad turns up not to be safe so many of her friends have betrayed her

so many boyfriends so many business people like now she's dealing with a she's been let down by the system in multiple ways like when the police

won't help her out and that she gets attacked again by this guy the cafe like it is just blow after blow for Brooke's whole life talk about looking

for a safe place she's finally home she's like got her husband and her babies oh and then her husband leaves the kids in the car so then she's got to like deal with i mean you know it's a thing and now her dad comes and it's like the one piece that is supposed to guarantee safety your dad is supposed to show up for you and he doesn't and like god that was another one brook i mean sophia oh my god i'm six wow i've known you for 20 years okay no by the way i have to tell you as i'm listening to you talk i'm like isn't it so

weird. Did I manifest Brooke Davis or did Brooke Davis manifest so many of the insane things that have happened to me? Do I love her or am I furious that I spent 10 years calling in that energy to my life? I just like, I can't. But it was so like, Sophia watching you when

Brooke says, like, why doesn't my dad want me? And like, I've got a great relationship with my dad. I've had moments of feeling that though. I think a lot of people have, but particularly for so many people who've really had not had their dad show up. And, you know, the way that that translates also over to your storyline, Paul and yours, excuse me, yours Rob, that, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be so squarely. What I'm really trying to say is the fact that her dad manipulated her, not just didn't show up, but did show up, and actually was trying to coerce and manipulate her. Another

major, major letdown. Because it's narcissistic abuse. This is grounds for a nervous breakdown. Like, we talk about why people need to check themselves into mental health facilities. There is no reason why Brooke should not have been like, I'm going to go check into, like, Silver Hill. I'll see you guys later. Except for the fact that, one, she had one person there who held her, who saw her, who was willing to walk through it with her. And even if she had decided to go check in somewhere, hey, people need to do what they need to do. But like, I'm just saying, Julian was such a hero here.

And really, the power of one is so amazing. And I think the power of one really, it rings so true. I'm saying yes to every single thing you're saying. And also I'm laughing because, you know, to your point, we've all been friends for 20 years. Like, we see ourselves in each other and in our characters and we know what relates on screen and what's happened off screen. So, of course, we're starting to call each other by the wrong names because it's literally all the same. Well, that's why I'm weeping. It's not like, I mean, I cry about characters on TV a little bit, but like, I know you guys. But it's so, it's so emotional and it's so powerful. And, and the thing that isn't lost on me and that I really appreciate for her and that maybe I maybe it's hitting me so hard because it's a thing I finally feel like I appreciate in my own life. Brooke's been through it enough to know she doesn't need anyone. Yes, she's totally capable on her own, but she deserves someone and she deserves someone good. And there's something about when you have someone good in your life, whether it's your best friend who doesn't leave your side when some shit goes down like you talked about with Craig Paul whether it's the partner

that you wish you'd found 10 years ago but you'll take them this year because God you'll take any time with them you can get whatever it looks like when you have someone not only I think do you understand that you don't have to go through something alone but weirdly it heals you in reverse because you go oh I actually never did have this so I I can identify the patterns as to why certain things happened. Certain things didn't work. I had to move past certain things. And to your point earlier, Rob, when you were saying, like, it's so universal.

No one else has been Dan Scott. You know, nobody else has had Brooks' crazy life or had their, I mean, I hope not many people have had their husbands kidnapped. Like, Haley, I'll go down the list. But there's something about these characters, their specificity. And the way they show up and the way they show out as humans, that's the thing that's relatable for everybody. And I don't know.

To your point, I think we're getting the wrap up our show deserves. And all the shark moments and all the dog hearts and all the things are so worth it because of the genuine human experiences we're watching right now. And, you know, you are the tip of that spear, Paul. and you opened the, I mean, you literally, like, pierced the veil and opened the space for all the rest of us to be more human in this journey to the end. This is why 20 years later, we still have sold out fan events, by the way, this conversation, because what is identified. I think that's why they genuinely identify, as we're always saying, this is an onion that every time you peel a layer, the characters go deeper, deeper, deeper and deeper. Yeah.

Something for everybody. We have really, we really did, you know, we really did identify, you know, bring something to our fans that I think was special. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had. ever had.

How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that fuck my man. You put so much heart and soul into your work? What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism? This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me.

Even when I was a stripper, I'm gonna be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it? I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Can I just point out something way more superficial and lighthearted, but just to the theme of Brooke is just an absolute badass. Did I, I'm very curious on how many of you caught this, but the first scene where Brooke's dad shows up, Brooke is at home.

This is the morning after she has been viciously assaulted and thrown down a set of metal stairs. She is tending to two babies solo parenting. I know what you're going to say. And she is where, inside her own house, and she is wearing high heels. And a mini skirt. And a mini skirt.

I saw that shit and was like, what? is she's either nuts like that's the craziest choice in the world she's either nuts or it's like a coping mechanism yes i'm going to put on my very favorite outfit because everything is and i need to feel in control and pretty and maybe i'll wear high heels so i feel extra pretty like it's so strange or was that something they brought up i don't really remember and i wish that i did because there's there's memories i have of wardrobe choices and episodes that are so specific and so intentional, I don't, I don't remember.

But also, like, they often start on the wide shot. Usually every scene starts on a wide shot. So it's totally feasible that you were on set, ready to go. You walked on set. You were like, where's my shoes? And somebody handed you high heels. And you were like, okay, just let's go. Whatever.

Also, we were blessed with all of you as our male cohorts. You're all so tall. So we would always have to be. in heels, or they'd have to build us little pathways of apple boxes so we could do the two shots. So I feel like, yes, it's a running joke, like, why are these women always looking like they're going to some crazy nightclub or red carpet event? But it was easier for the crew, for us just to be jacked up taller than to have to, like, build little ant pathways through the set. So I don't, I sadly don't have a specific memory on this one. But, but,

It was not lost on me, you know, that she's, like, walking around and cooking lunch for her dad and doing all these things in that outfit. Rob, I thought you were going to, when you said, like, Brooks a badass, I thought you were going to be like, oh, when she sassed the cop, and basically it was like, I told you so. I was so glad I got to have that moment with them because it's just like, yeah, you've put me in this position because you didn't want to listen to a woman who told you what was going to happen. and now I've had to clean up your mess and I was very grateful that they gave me

that little moment to kind of say the thing that I know so many women have wanted to say. Did you think it was weird that Julian drove past the cafe with Dan and Nathan in the car and didn't notice like the ambulance and the fire truck

and all the things outside? Not at all. I didn't because I thought really about how fast they're going and the adrenaline and how he's probably more looking in the rearview mirror to see if this man is alive or dead.

Yeah, making sure traffic's open. And it was up the side street. What I did love, though, was getting the, and I think I might have said this at the top of the episode, so forgive me. I loved getting the confirmation of how the night went down because the second Brooke hears him. And I also sort of geeked because we're obviously doing comic book stuff because of Clay and Logan. I loved that she's there one second and then she's gone.

And the blanket is like hitting the ground like a superhero kid. She was a ninja vanished. Yeah. Yeah, like we were just having little comic book nods everywhere, and it was fun for me to remember, because we couldn't remember at the end of last week, that, of course, oh my God, that's it. Brooke hears the radio, runs to her car, calls Haley, and then we all go to the hospital, and of course, as things go, it takes a beat for anyone to even think to call Quinn and Clay. because like we're at the hospital and Nathan's here and it it felt so um honestly human those little choices about how things go down and you know someone finally goes oh my god does so and so no and it it was a really sweet thing and you know in our show that can be ridiculous

when we get it right and it feels really authentic it's nice even in the tiniest details Speaking of little choices, let's talk about Logan. Yep. Also, by the way, in an incredible episode, one of my most favorite moments was this tiny blink and you'll miss it, unscripted moment where we're shooting, we're back on the street. We are shooting through Clay's car, so you see Quinn in her seat and then you see the door to Sarah's parents' house where Logan lives. and Quinn is waiting and she, the door opens and Clay and Logan start to walk out

and you see her kind of clock them and start to look back down and then she quickly looks back and realizes that Logan is coming along and she kind of does this jump in her seat and it's like this sweetest little moment of like genuine excitement from her and I was like

oh that's that was so perfect man and he's just great right he's so good I just every time his eyes are so big they're big like saucers and they're so deep I just want to stare into them while he talks he's so sweet and he smiles with his whole face which is my favorite thing that can happen to a kid at that age you know because some kids like they they do the the smile because they don't know what to do with their teeth and sweet pierce I mean he just smiles with his entire face and when he looks up at her it it was such a sweet moment for the three of you, but what actually gutted me and made me burst into tears

for the 140th time in this hour was watching you watch Logan and Quinn have this moment together. I was like, I can't take it my heart. You were so earnest and so happy. It was just like,

it's the relief of finally getting to see you just be happy. Leading man like Sophia was saying in the last episode, there was just something so strong and steady and, like, settled about Clay. Like, oh, finally, finally. Paul, we've been talking and talking and talking. What do you have to say about this episode?

I'm curious. What I'm watching is the dynamics of drama queens happening. I'm watching Rob do what he does so well. He's keeping the ship going in the right direction. He's like, okay, girls, he has to wrangle us all the time, like hurting cats. Hope is bringing up these fantastic anecdotal thoughts and things like that. Joey's emoting, moating, it's like this is the perfect Drama Queen's episode because you're all playing through your strengths.

And I'm just getting here, just soaking it in, having so much fun. I know. You said you were at a loss for words and we all were like, it's okay. We'll keep talking. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Was there anything else about when you were watching our episode back? Was there anything about it that you, I don't know.

I'm just curious kind of what your thoughts were. You know, they were all the credits. They had a beautiful memorial to your mother. Like the episode was dedicated to your mom. Yeah. I know you were going through a lot while we were even shooting that. Yeah, I'm just like anything extra that you want to share. Well, I think I was sharing what you guys were sharing too.

It's like there's a lot of bittersweet at the ending of the time of our lives, which isn't just a TV show, but living in Wilmington, friendships the crew who are family and friends our lifestyles different everything is going to change there's nothing going to stop that and this and the and you know the change left the station it's happening and so as we start getting closer to each episode last episode um i'm leaving an episode before you guys are and so i'm i'm not going to be there for the big party i'm not going to be there for the final hug goodbye with everybody and all that was hitting me too during that episode it wasn't just And my character was Paul Jones's home in, you know, over there in Wrightsville Beach, all the things that I put down my roots.

And I'm like, oh, okay, well, you guys have a good time. I'm not going to check out and miss the party. And it was, you know, there was a lot of it. But, you know, it's a big boy life to choose to be a big girl life too, to choose to be an actor. You know, and we go do movies to three, four months, and we have great loves and, friendships and people. I'm going to stay friends with you for the rest of my life. And you see him again two, three years later. Oh, hey man, how you doing? It's, it's so much, man. And I just so hard. Right. So far. Yeah. It is. It's really difficult and it's strange because you feel so

lucky. And I think what we do, especially when you're fortunate enough to do it the way we did, where you do it for so long, when it ends and then you're all, on your next thing, it's almost like being confronted with your own mortality early, because you realize you genuinely only have so much time. And you do a show, and then you go and you do another long-running show. And it's like, you have to invest in where you are. But when 25 of us, as you mentioned, all have to, we had each other. And then you have to go invest in where you are. So you're not a total asshole. And also what else are you supposed to do? You live somewhere. knew it's impossible to maintain the closeness you're sure you're going to maintain but and it and it is

it's a very strange hybrid of immense love and mourning because i could see you once a week or once a year or once every three years like you were mentioning when you run into someone from your crew and you're my family i'm so in love with that and i'm so sad forever that we can't just have the regularity. Yeah. Like I'm so sad. But it's literally impossible.

And it's a really weird thing to try to figure out how to navigate and hold, I guess. Does that make sense? It's very strange. What I think is so cool about it, though, is that, so first of all, we all got to have this experience,

like just selfishly amongst us. right like what what a crazy ride high highs low lows all of it and like paul said it has really been such a gift for everyone who got to be a part of it yeah then what's great is though we created something that has a legacy and it has a very widespread legacy that has brought a lot of people joy and and strength and companionship sometimes i think the show has been that one person to people who were struggling so it's such a wonderful feeling that like we contributed something that was value added to some folks out there but then like the double bonuses because of that it creates all of these opportunities this podcast the conventions where we get to come back together to honor

and celebrate this thing and then selfishly behind the scenes give each other hugs and be like this it's like summer camp oh crap you look great how are you you know that's wonderful In a weird way, I kind of wish that, and it doesn't put aside all of the struggles. It doesn't, and all that stuff is kind of like, it's sort of a bit of a life and mirroring another life, you know, because in our own lives, we also had all the stories that we had of, of Joy, what a book about it. We all had our own kind of like journeys while we had the journey together. and knew about each other's journeys and some of us didn't. The people we got close to kind of had an idea, but nobody really kind of knew what anybody was really going through

because you can't, you can only kind of talk about, you can't really experience it through somebody else. So now that I'm older and we're all older and we're looking back on, I'm going, what, that was happening? Or, oh, my, Joey's book was like, I knew and I was super close. I didn't know. Like, I didn't really know. Yeah.

And now I want to read, everyone to write a book so I can know you better. You know what I mean? I want to know what you're going to because if I wrote a book, you'd just be like, you guys would be like, wait a minute.

Yeah, I know. We need to read each other's book and then there's got to be some time work where we can go back and just do it all over again, but all in the best ways. Paul, let's rent a cabin somewhere, just you and I,

a couple boxes of hot pockets, some Mountain Dew, and let's just bang out some books, okay? Oh, yeah. I'm coming. I am waiting for your book. Oh, my God. So if you're inviting.

There's a lot of friends if I wrote my book. Isn't that a funny thing? Yeah, when you think and you're like, could I? Would I? I don't know. I don't know if it's worth it to say the thing. Yeah. It's tough.

You got to navigate that very carefully. Yeah. Hey, I'm Jay Chetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood?

I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that my man. To put so much heart and soul into your work, what's the hardest part for you to take you? you to take that criticism. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me.

Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it? I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I believe that we have a perfect fan question today

because it is for you, Mr. Paul Johanssen. Sonia asks, in honor of one of the greatest villains of all time, wow, funny, Sonia, we were just saying the same thing. What is your favorite Dan Scott scene? Oh, that's not fair. Can we quickly get you guys to do it and then I'll do it? Rob, what's your fear? I'll allow it.

I like that. Okay, so mine, I'm on first. Okay, I only have knowledge of Dan Scott seasons seven through nine, mind you. I haven't, I haven't lapped back yet. So, okay, listen, there are married fun scenes, right? Of just drama, bitchiness. Honorable mention is going to be the slow motion. shotgun walk because listen that was that was incredible so you that that scene awoke something in me

deep down inside me I have a newfound crush on on paul johansom but I will say my favorite scene it's rivercourt you and Nathan yeah because that was just that was beautiful and like I said I think it was a kind of a it was so much it was being said and it was performed it was written beautifully. It was performed beautifully. And that was, that was the scene where I was like, oh, yeah, this is it right here. Yeah, that was the payoff. I mean, I'm flashing through all these moments in my mind, but I can't identify exactly what they're from. Like, there were other moments in earlier seasons where you were manipulating something, but it seemed so real, or you were genuinely, it seemed like you were really remorseful, but actually, it seemed like you were really remorseful,

actually, you just were sad that you were suffering consequences, not that you were actually experiencing remorse. Yeah. Like some of those moments where we'd watch and be like, oh, my God, is Dan changing? And then the next scene, we'd be like, damn it, he got us. Paul got us. I know. I know.

But this one, this is the payoff for all of it. Yeah. I agree. I have loved watching you work for 10 years and now really 20 because we've gone back to do this. it's impossible to pick but also impossible to pick anything but that scene between you and Nathan in this episode on the river court it's like it's it's it's the finishing of this incredible meal that you've served us and it's just perfect well I I'm going to be very boring then because I could go back to getting my face smashed by joy in the

in the 1940s It was so fun because, you know, for I don't know, eight years, it was like I was, you know, having this wonderful game onset of my infatuation and it was played out and smashed into my face,

which was hilarious. And you have to have that kind of like approach to it. Also, I think some of the scenes that I felt like I did with with, With Moira, I thought we're very strong. Yes. There's some very strong work that we had because we had some very intense things.

And then I love the humor, I think that Rob was sort of alluding to with boozy and the pranksters were super fun. And I don't know if you remember those, if you were around for those, but they were super playful. The War of the Roses. Roses, yeah. That's exactly where I was going on. But it is, the River Court scene, is my favorite dance got scene because it was, I got the catharsis that my friends, you guys, and my fans and the One Tree Hill audience got.

We all shared together. It was a very important and very generous gift to me as an actor from the writing staff and the producers in the studio and everybody else to give me an episode where I got my own episode to say goodbye. and then you guys did your episode after. But they kind of, they really, they didn't have to do that. But it was the right thing to do. It was the smart thing to do.

It was wonderful. So that is it, yeah. Yeah, well, there is no one else I would rather have been drowned by, not once, but twice. That's right, twice. Other than you, Paul Johnson. Well, you know, I'm available at the time you want to be drowned. Maybe later this week, you can drown me in Paris. perhaps.

That's right. It'd be nice. Maybe next time. We should spin a wheel. That's a great idea. All right. We have most likely to accidentally start a fire while cooking. We shot that episode, Joy.

I directed it. You did. Yes. It's Chris Keller. Of course. Oh, my gosh. Who did start the fire. And you directed that episode.

We had so much fun. We were really, that was so hard not to laugh that day. Like, just get your work down. Don't laugh. It's so hard. I don't know. Who in real life? Who in real life is a really bad cook?

You know, Joy, my knee jerk was you. Not because you're not a competent cook, but because you sort of have that, like, forgetfulness about you occasionally. And you're like, leave a computer on a plane and walk away. I could just see, like, a boiling pot of water. And you're just like, a butterfly. I should write a poem about that, you know? You know, Rob, you're not wrong. I have burned many a pan by leaving it on the stove and forgetting walking away, thinking, oh, I'll just get this started and then I'm going to go do my makeup and then I'll come back and make dinner and then, oh, no, the house is on fire.

Yeah. That's probably is me. I mean, Paul, thank you so much for joining us. I was really special to have you. And thanks for allowing us to share. You know, it's nice to say things about someone, but the soul satisfaction of being able to say it to their face is really important. I love you guys. I love all.

I love you. We love you. Thank you for letting us shower you with the compliments we've been storing up like little chipmunks in the cheeks of our hearts. And thanks for the gift of Dan Scott. Well, I'm grateful that you guys allow me to be a part of this, especially I know you guys have, again, you're wrapping things up and it's beautiful. but thank you for letting me be a part of this particular. And I hope I see you guys all soon somewhere. Yes, please.

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