Drama Queens - LIVE IN BOSTON (Part 2) feat. Matt Barr, Robert Buckley and Tyler Hilton

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

Psycho Derek is in the house and he’s got stories of how that nickname has plagued him for years!  And Robert Buckley and Tyler Hilton return causing more chaos in only the way they can!   Plus a slew of more fan questions! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama, girl, cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you're tough girl, you could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, Please welcome to the stage Your Drama Queens Hillary Burton Morgan Sophia Bush

and Bethany Joy Lenz Hey listen We're back, baby You guys Hey You knew what you were doing when you signed up for the second show, right? All right, we're all on the same page. How many people here now were here at seven?

Okay, that's a good number. Oh, man. All right, don't ruin it for everybody else. No spoilers. It's right, it's right. Well, guys, we're so happy to be here in Boston for our first tour or kicking off the tour with you guys. I mean, I love the East Coast. I grew up in Jersey, and, you know, I'm just...

Oh, yeah, you need more champagne. Yeah, and listen, we're at our communal cop right now. We only have one cup, but, you know, that feels fine. Yeah, our bartender, we got one plastic cop joy. Make it count. Guys, it's our first show. We haven't worked all the Kings out yet, okay? No, we're on a journey together, but we feel really lucky.

We all have very stressful lives. We know that you do, too. That's Danielle That's our producer Danielle Guys, when you hear us on the podcast Ask a question And then suddenly we go

Oh, it happened in 2006 It's because Danielle is giving us the answers In your trash Please give it up for Danielle We love you This tour would not have happened Without her She's so good

No we all have stressful lives And so once a week We take what An hour Two Two hours Because we gotta watch it Yeah

And we commune with one another. And you guys join us for that journey. So thank you so much. It's cool that we're doing it in front of people. It also kind of nerve-wracking, right? Because I'm just like, oh, normally we're like, hey, cut that part out. Yeah.

Normally we're in our pajamas, too, and, you know, from the waist down anyway. I sleep in this. Yeah. I totally wear these shoes at home. Normal. Was up like this, for sure. but it is

it's become like even as we're settling in just being backstage again we're remembering all the times but even when we were on tour with the One Tree Hill tour and you guys would come to visit or introduce the show like it just feels we always fall back into this rhythm with each other it feels so great it always feels like and now we're doing

this trip together in an RV we're driving around in an RV and all these cities to see you guys friends when we started planning this trip obviously there's logistics required to get from city to city and very quickly we were like but if we got an RV we could be together just us kind of like the hour that we watch the

podcast on Zoom which you don't hear most of because we're talking shit we get to do it together and I will say we like every so often we joke that we should make t-shirts and say like blame fill in the blank for whatever dumb thing we did that year on our show We do have to blame Tyler Hilton. This is Tyler Hilton's fault that we're on a very much. For the RV. Listen. Okay, so Tyler was doing this tour all over, like, North America,

and he showed up at my farm in an RV, which my son thought was, like, the coolest shit ever, right? Gus's like, Mom, he's got a house, and it's his car. It's, like, awesome. And I'm like, your dad and I work in trailers all the time. You've never been this excited. And so Gus is totally enamored with this thing, and Tyler's like,

Anybody can drive an RV. Not true. We test drove the RV yesterday and it didn't have any luggage in it, right? Which meant it was light in the back. And real bouncy on two-lane country roads and

top speed I could get it to was 40 miles per hour and I was just like we got to go all over New England. We were texting and I could tell she was really stressed And I was at work in Atlanta, and I was like, can I help you? Is there anything I can do for you? And she was like, from Atlanta? I was like, I don't know why I'm asking the question, but I'm worried.

Wait, but this is the first time I'm hearing about the 40 miles per hour. Is that our limit? No, it's not our limit, because guess what? We loaded that thing. And Mommy got it to 70 miles per hour today. Yeah, baby. I was cooking. I just needed some junk in the trunk.

Exactly. That's what the deal was. And now I'm an expert. Now I'm so good at this. And also on like the highway when you have to change lanes, people were kind of being dicks, but yeah, yeah, noted.

It's true, but yeah. Here's the deal. If you thank someone before they do the thing, then they are guilted into doing the thing. So you just, you have to put your fingernails out and be like, oh my God, thank you so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So that's our stick.

If you're driving down the highway and you see a two big RV with some fingernails hanging out on the side, It's us. We're on vacation with each other. We love a journey. We've got another journey to tell them about Joy. Tell them. Oh, are you got, okay. So we love our sponsors and we have an amazing sponsor that we, one of the things about our sponsors, the luxury that we have is being able to pick out sponsors that we really love. So when we share things with you guys, it's real. Like,

we really love these things. And so one of the ones that we are super excited about is cheap Caribbean and they are actually sending one of you, one of our listeners, on a cruise. on a vacation. So you have the details and I have the cocktail. Yes. Joy's going to make us the cheap Caribbean

strawberry pineapple sparkling margarito well, Sophia tells us all the details. Because here's the thing. Y'all know we love a cocktail if you've watched our live shows that we've done on the internet. No. Who was?

You're no stranger to it. And when our friends at cheap Caribbean heard that we were taking an RV trip, they were like, oh, that's cute. The tropics are better But we'll just give away a trip to the tropics for you girls And we were like Oh well great because we want to do that for listeners

Also can we come? How many people get to go on the trip? They said only two but it's fine Don't just don't be surprised if we're in the cabana next year Yeah we might check ourselves in your luggage Don't worry about it All you need to know is that the details are on our Instagram because I'm not going to tell you to pull out your phones right now

unless you want to write down the recipe for this margarita I've already had one it's why I'm loose on the details no I think it's like you have to follow us yes you follow cheap Caribbean yes and then you have to tag your best friend in a post so just go to our Instagram and I'll tell you what to do okay Joy's going to tell us what to do okay so here we're going to do an ounce and a half of tequila because obviously we're ready to party.

We're going to do a half ounce of strawberry syrup and three quarters an ounce of pineapple juice and three quarters an ounce of lime juice. I'm really more of a feel-it-out, kind of a... That's true. We measured them at seven. At nine, you get what you get. You're welcome nine o'clock.

Yeah. You're welcome nine o'clock. Here we go. That feels like three-quarters of time. Great. Did you already put the tequila in there? I did, ma'am. Oh.

You should put some more, though, right? What's that called Joy of Floater? Yeah. That's nice. That smells nice. It smells like the Caribbean. It sure does. I realize we're going into winter, which makes me want to go to the beach more, weirdly.

Like in the summer, I feel like I can go anytime, and now that it's getting cold, I'm desperate for warmth. Okay, Joy's going to shake. What is that? Oh. You're so excited about me. This is a very dramatic shake. It is. Oh.

Where can they get all the details? On our Instagram. C-H-E-A-P. C-A-R-R-I-B-E-A-N. Okay, here's the question. Dot com. So, guys, this is always my problem. Hold on.

What do you need me to do? Muscles? Oh. Oh. You got a souvenir. she's not sorry all right here's the deal here you want to hand this one out yeah you know what yeah hold on where's christina is she back

christina got drink first show i want to make sure we got to give it to a new person this time right we need somebody here's what we're going to need because our friends we're grown-up ladies trying to set a good example and there was a lot of underage drinking on our show i need to see an iD Who's got their ID? Oh, you were fast. Yeah, get it. Okay, hi, and in a jersey.

I feel like you deserve this. What is your name? Which ID? Shamari. Of age, thank you so much. I really appreciate the proof. Appreciate the outfit. I wish I had one for everyone.

We'll see what happens on our 2023 tour. Wait, are you making... What did you say? 23 tour. Oh, the 2020 tour. Listen, once they get used. Oh, I'm sorry.

I forgot your pineapple. Yeah. Tada. Hold on. I'm stealing some of this. Okay. You guys, we want to raise a toast to our Drama Queen's family.

You guys have given us so, so much. We get to be together. We get to be with you. Thank you for being on our first stop for the tour. Cheers. Cheers. Thank you.

Cheers, BB. I really love you, too. So much. Good call on adding extra tequila to this one. Yeah. It's rare. When in doubt, Joy. Wow.

Add more tequila. It does feel weird to be out in a group because normally we watch the episodes and we kind of confer with each other like, all right, what shit are we going to talk? Like, there's a backstage thing. And when we come out here, it's fly by the seat of our pants, you guys. So, I need you to be forewarned that Rob Buckley is a nightmare. Like, legitimately, wrong. It says that we have three minutes, but he talked so fucking much last time that we should probably just bring him, right?

That feels right. Bring him out of you. Give it up. The Bray! I want to change if I'm good that would be so good like that would make me feel so good. That's what you do.

Oh, bad, yeah, I wouldn't change if I could. I wouldn't change you if I could. I would change you. Wow. What's the sound of 300

people calling you a liar, Burton? Hey, first question. Why are you so obsessed with me? He turned a girl down once and she calls you a monster for 20 years. Stop! Unbelievable. We're in love with each other. Rob, when did you get to town?

When did you get to Boston? Yesterday. Last night. Have you been here before? Yeah, as a kid. Just as a kid. Poking around. What'd you do here as a kid?

Yeah. It's like visited family friends. Kids visit Boston. There's not an age limit on it? Suddenly I just picture you walking alone in that same little red sweatshirt. with a little suitcase down the sidewalk by the tattington bear yeah the train i was hitching a ride on stop in boston so i got off and tried my wares here we're glad you joined us thank you so much for having you twice by the way

yeah again tomorrow i know i'm so excited well that's it so we get to race each other tomorrow we're in the RV and are you flying or are you training yeah let's see what wins modern aviation or your RV. Watch your flight get to late. I'm going to laugh so. We're going to talk so much. Don't put that in the universe, Joy. Don't do that.

It's an hour flight. It should be quick. Oh, I'll ask you backstage. I was going to say, what airline are you on? Maybe we'll just, uh, somebody somewhere has like a spell. Don't. Spells?

Did someone say my name? Listen, I was invited to be in the, the RV, but I thought, knowing how much Burton farts, there's no way I want to be trapped in a space with her for five and a half hours pass. No, listen, Rob and I did a movie together where we decided the only thing we were going to eat the whole time we were filming the movie was a hot dog. Who's idea was this? Well, who do you think? And we ate hot dogs like every day, but like $100 worth of hot dogs. Like gourmet, fancy pants, hot dogs. And we're in the middle of this scene where we're sitting on the front porch of the house

and we're both like, we're going to fart right? But we had to be the leaders on set and we're children. We're definitely not leaders. I'm glad we had that experience together, Rob. We're so much better now than we were then. Oh my gosh, yeah. I've grown up a lot since then. Not at all.

Rob, when they gave you the job as Clay on Montreal, Did you I don't know You guys have watched? Did you I'm trying to remember if you crossed paths Was Chad on the show at the same time Or did he?

No No, you guys didn't cross paths No Okay Why are you guys yelling? What? He didn't yelling, I'm sorry, I forgot We haven't watched those seasons

Yeah, you guys It's a blur. The late-night crowd is surly Wow Okay, wait, did you know that you were going to be series regular though? Yes, I knew I was going to be serious regular I knew that

Chad and Hillary were leaving Okay, and... What they say about us? Really nice thing? About Chad. Cool. Yes, so I knew it was going to be... Thank you, Mom! Flew all the way here from Southern California.

I knew it was going to be a regular. and like a sports agent, and that was kind of the gist of it. Fortitude. By the way, thank you for joining us for the interactive podcast experience. All the listeners at home

who are like, who this is shouting in the background? I kind of like it. It's like One Tree Hill Madlibs. Oh, yeah. That's a good idea, actually. That should be our next merch. One Tree Hill, Madlips.

Oh, my God. Like dialogue from the show, like famous speeches or something? Like a Madlib's book. But yeah, that's a fun idea. Guys, here's a question. If they made One Tree Hill NFTs, would you buy them? Stop!

Rob, you're supposed to d'ort. I'm just saying, make that money. They're worth 12 cents. What is an NFTs? Here's what I'd heard about Rob. Because I left, I was, like, pregnant, and they're like, there's a new boy on the show. I still had friends and family working on the show.

They're like, there's this guy. He's like, no, no. for being like hot with his shirt off on some like lady cougar show what was the lady cougar show the lady cougar show that was how it was advertised a lipstick jungle that's the one yeah jungle cougar

same deal what had you heard about our show before jumping in what I heard about your show is that it was very popular and it was like pretty people staring out of windows and I was like listen

I got a window my house, I'm halfway there. I'll hit the salon on the way to Wilmington. We can get there. We can make this work. I actually, like, I told this show the last time, or it destroyed the last show, so bear with me if you were here last show, but like, I really went into this blind. I booked the job and was like, this is tremendous. All I knew is that I was going to be a part of something big. So I did, you know, what you do, I bought a season on DVD. I took it home to watch it. I went in hesitant. I'll give you the, the brief version is that, like, the night I chose to start watching this was like on the heels of a year.

UFC fight when all of my dude bro buddies were over. Dude bro. Very high testosterone setting. And I was like, this seems like a great time to pitch a teenage drama show. Do you guys want to watch it? They were game. And I kind of expected like it to be like, we're going to snicker at the TV and like judge it. And that wasn't the experience.

It was like quiet. And it was like, I guess it's not. It's not, you can change if you want to change it. I don't care. Yeah. Whatever. And it was like, we were in. And I remember just being like, oh.

Okay, this show's got some things right. This is good. Kissing and crying, man. And then I immediately felt a ton of pressure because I remember thinking, like, this show's a huge hit. Two things left, and two things are coming in. So if this season doesn't go well,

I am at least 50% to blame for it. You were so great, though. You came in so seamlessly, and it was so easy to work with you right away. You were smart. You were on top of everything. I felt like, and the sense of improv that you bring to your work just because you're so quick felt like it was just fun.

It was a relief from all the day to day, like everybody just trying to stick in their box and stay and do the thing. And, you know, we had a lot of people come in and out. And I think they were probably, they just wanted to do a good job and leave. Like, come in and do the good job and then leave. And then they were a little afraid to color outside the lines. And you always, it just felt like you had a freedom in your work that felt as another. actor and scene with you like a relief like oh we can play oh this is going to be fun you know oh that's nice thank you for saying that i think that's one of the things you have going for you

when you are the new kid because also mind you i jumped in season um seven so it's like i say like joining a show i know you don't have to go yup i get it you know the show nerds i'm kidding okay i love you joy's right um joy's right he he fit in so well it's just a shame that with all that improv skill, he's not funny. I know, God. I know. That's what we missed. But, like, it's typically when you join a show,

like I say it's like transferring high school as your senior year. We're like, everyone has friends, everyone knows the deal, and you're showing up and you're like, how do I just fly under the radar? How do I get through? And so, of course, joining, like, a big show after six years, a lot of worry.

But one of the things you have is, it was freedom. You don't know, like, how things work with the sort of M-O-S. You can kind of just, like, come in and shoot your show, shot and if you want be brave and just like go big and let them reel you back in so there kind of is a cool freedom in it because you're like i don't know what you're expecting of me so i'm going to give you this version yeah it was great i feel like we saw that and you and james

got on right away too so that was like easy yes he was so great everyone was really lovely i mean everyone was quite nice and you know clay changed a bit like i think what we ended up seeing of him In the pilot, Clay's first episode, like we had shot totally different intro stuff with Clay. I think the first scene is now me in an office on a headset. I'm like bouncing a tennis ball off the wall and I'm like closing a deal. The original scene, which is I love that my very first scene on the show, I was giving a lecture to like 150 extras. And I remember just laughing like, of course, like all of our bosses are there that day because they're like, let's see if this new kid knows what he's doing. Did you shoot that version?

Yes. They caught it? 100%. I was that good that they were like, scrap it. Is it too late to get someone else? And it was.

They were like, just write a new scene. But yeah, like my very first scene was like giving a lecture to it and they were just like, nah, can you put a headset

on a bounce of tennis ball off a wall instead? Like, you've got to take away from what you're doing distract the audience. Just play with some toys. Just play with some toys.

Yeah. That sounds like a smarter choice to me though. Because we had a lot of like, I mean, Haley was a teacher and there was a lot of, Andy was a teacher.

I think they had just seen that setting before. They probably wanted to do something that gave you more energy and it was like interest right away because we hadn't seen something like that. Yeah, because it was a much better glimpse into Clay because it was like a guy who's multitasking. He's hustling. It was, I think, a much more appropriate introduction to the character

than like it was just giving some random, like, talk, you know? It was sort of like, eh, there's no connective tissue to who he is here. Clay wasn't Andy. He wasn't a professor. Let him be a cool, let him be a cool guy. He wasn't a regular guy. He was a cool guy. He was a cool guy.

Hot agent with a psycho stalker that looked just like his actor. Hey, who wants to talk about psychostockers? Yes. You guys, another actor that came on our show as the new kid and totally changed everything up. Gets a pretty bad rap. I feel like a lot of the fan base thinks he's like a bad guy, but he's a really good guy in real life.

Let's bring him out. Rural, he's the bad. Ladies, who do we got? Here's our guy. There's our guy. Matt Barr! Bad bar! We're gonna make him take a shirt off to show his back.

Make sure that it's not still on there. No, Joe. I was like, oh my God. Don't do it! I almost called you and said, should I just do it? Just put it on? Oh, my gosh. Just to freak everybody out.

Matt, this is the first time that we're seeing each other since we shot all that crazy stuff. It's been probably 15, 16 years. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Which is dumb. What's up, you guys? Give it up for a map.

It's been a minute. All right. You're literally in the middle of filming right now. You wrapped at, what, 3 o'clock in the morning last night? That's right. Enough to get to the airport. And get here. Get here, baby.

To Boston? Because you just couldn't see. stay away from the one true hill of it all. Come on. Talk a little psychodoric. Yeah. Well, so has this part haunted you the way it's haunted me? You know, it's funny

because I've been able to, like, travel around the world a bit, like several continents, and everywhere I go, I hear psychoderic. Really? Really? I remember my dad once was like, why are they yelling that at you? He was like, was that what you were called? So, because your part, I mean, you literally, it says,

guys anytime we do a show they give us a cheat sheet so you're getting to see behind the scenes here it says that they ranked all of the villains of one tree hill and you rated higher than dan scott paul only ranked number five you were number two out of the top ten villains of one tree hell wow yeah who's number one harry you're number you're the you're the badest dude on the ship. It's because I head butted Brooke across a room, I think, or something like that. And then I think I, I licked your face, I think.

Yeah. That happened. Wait, so are you aware of any of this? Oh, yeah. Okay, can you give Buckley the rundown of what the hell happened? This is for the, this is the late night crowd, Buckley. So, wait, you licked her face? Like my face.

Because in the wake of you guys doing that, I got my face licked when I came on the show. Did you? Yeah, that's right. What's up, Drew Hill? Yeah. Why are you what that says about our writers? You copy everything I do.

I'm obsessed with you. I remember like asking, I think I asked Hillary, I was like, hey, this is kind of like a Hannibal Lecter thing, but what if I just like lick your face to the scene? Are you down? She's like, yeah, let's do it. Of course I was. It looks so creepy. Here's the thing that was really difficult because so many people have come to us and

they've talked about like what that storyline meant to them because it was about processing trauma. It's like, oh my God, this terrible, scary thing happened to me. how do I get past that? And we take that really seriously. And it was really easy for people to buy into you being a psycho because you are so good at your job. However, like, you were the loveliest person on set.

So when they were like, we want to bring him back. If it had been anyone else, we would have been like, no, we're not getting beat up again. It's totally inappropriate. We're not doing it. But with Matt, we're like, okay, that sounds like, we'll do it. He was really misunderstood. he He's done a yell at

Go ahead Yeah Give Buckley the overview of who Derek was And then I have a challenge For us as a little collective And also I just want to say How hilarious

I hope I'm in an airport With you someday Just so I can hear someone Shout across the terminal A Psycho Derek! That's right Because like how funny that is For all the people

who don't know who you are That's right Right right I just hear that And they're like That was kind of a dick move He's probably going through some stuff Like I was drinking my ice coffee

you're like, have a great flight, you know. Yeah, you know, came to town and, you know, Hillary's long-lost brother. Wait, were you actually her brother? Okay. Who remembers my real name? Okay, I don't know. Okay, so here's what screwed up about that.

That was the name of my real-life boyfriend at the time while we were shooting the show, and that was someone's way of like, making a dig, and they're like, we know what we'll name her psycho stalker. Ian, and like, it was the most blatant, just like, it was really awkward. But you made a good Ian. It was good. It was cool, because you know, kind of slowly endeared himself to this, you know, this community.

His pack of high schoolers? Yeah, right? What a creep. He was incredibly charming. A good photographer? Great photographer. Uh-huh. But things started.

How did they pitch you this part, though? Like, did you know how bat shit it was going to go before you signed up for it? I didn't. I didn't. Wait, really. I thought I was your brother. You really thought you were her brother.

This is going to be great. So you were just obsessed with her and had been following her and then, like, decided to try and kill her. What was your deal with Brooke? Like, what happened? Yeah. I missed it.

I wasn't in the story line. He's like, I don't know, guys. I don't know where I was. You were probably writing an album, babe. Good for you. It was somewhere, but I missed it. No, I didn't know. I remember in the audition. I remember, like, there was one scene that was, you know, the, was the, you know, the charming

sweet brother. And then there was this psycho scene, and I sort of went off book. I was sitting there with Mark, and I just sort of, like, improvised this whole thing. And I, like, jumped on the couch, and I, like, threw a chair and licked a wall, you know. But, uh, that's how he's gotten all his jobs. He's like, all these cowboy movies, I'll just lick something. Yeah, maybe they'll believe it. But, um, yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. Had you worked in Wilmington before? No, but what? Have you been there? This is the greatest place. This is like the greatest place on earth. I still want to like move there and raise a family. That's the thing. It sucks you in. We called it like the black hole of comfort. Because you go to Wilmington and then all of a sudden you're 65 years old and you're like, I've been here forever.

That town Rip Van Winkled me. Yeah. Well, there's still time. That's right. You're doing lots of cowboy things now. Oh, yeah, baby. So my question for you is, after you did our show, do you get typecast as, like, bad boys,

or do you play good boys, or what's the schick? So for like, yeah, it seemed like for years after I was, I was like a psycho, stalker, rapist, you know, cannibal or something, you know. Cannibal's different. I'm actually a really nice guy. Okay, wait, this is the moment for the thing that I want to do because Hillary mentioned, look,

People have experiences with our storylines. We obviously have experiences with our storylines. We have a whole podcast about it. But, you know, your storyline is intense. And it's important to honor that. And it's also very important to say, like, this is our friend who's a lovely human name. So nice.

Like, literally the best person. And I think there's a, it's like we need a, like a saging almost of Derek. Right. So can you tell the audience three things about your, that are just nice so they can get to know Matt Bar and we can just clean

it out a little bit you know? Yeah. Sage the room with us. Three gentle things about Matt Barre. Just three lovely things about yourself. I love listening to Enya with my mom. She loves Enia, she's an artist. See? My fiancé is in the audience somewhere.

Her name is Kylie. I don't know where she is. But she's the sweetest, most beautiful woman ever. And, um, I, uh, I don't know, you know, I, I love the notebook. Can I, can I make a, a, a gentle request to the fans? Yeah, yeah. Going forward, when you see Matt in an airport or a public arena, how about instead of shouting Psycho Derek, you shout, sweet Matt? Yeah.

Yes. Let's, let's, let's flip the script. Let's change the narrative. Can everybody give us a try on that on three? One, two, three. Sweet. Matt. Come on.

Thank you. That helps, doesn't it? I can finally go out in public again. My mom would be so happy. Yeah, wait, what was your family's reaction, Matt? I didn't even think about that. You know what? I remember, like, the first thing, like, when I kind of went crazy on you,

I remember my mom being like, what did we do wrong? You know? Like, that's all right? They internalized it. They're like, we messed out. We did something real wrong here. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think they, um.

I don't know. That was fun. It was a fun. We had a good time, didn't we? Well, that's the thing. I felt so safe with you so that, even though the subject matter was like horrific and really scary, you were so safe. And you were so just like, are you okay? Can I take care of you? And I was like, okay, you can stay. Like, don't hurt me, but also, like, you can stay. And there was that hope that, I mean, when we went and we visited you in prison and then

got the whole sob story about, you know, Ian's life and that he's only, attacking women because his heart was broken, you know, or something stupid like that. There was kind of this thing where we thought for a second, they were going to try to like rehab your character and they'd keep you around. I remember sort of like wondering how that would play out. Awful. Like how would we, like how would we earn this one, you know? No, but listen, it's been 20 years.

So like he's probably up for parole at this point. So you just stay put, Matt Barr. You just stay on your horse over where you are in the Wild West. I like the idea of Matt's mom at work being like, my son is on One Tree Hill. And her co-workers being like, go on, what role? And she's like, he's the captain of the basketball team. Yeah.

That's so sad. Did you hang out with anybody, or were you just like doing push-ups and being scary in your hotel room while you were in Wilmington? I felt like, like, Lee Norris and I were just, like, driving, running around town. Yeah. Lee Norris!

Yay. He's always up to make a friend and have a good time. Well, kind of like Rob was saying, you come in as like the new guy. You guys were with his family, and remember Lee just kind of swooped me up and was like, hey, we're going to Sophia's or we're going to Hillary's or, you know. He was a sweetheart guy and kind of, you guys were sweet to embrace me as the new crazy guy in town. We were just talking about the house parties, like the Halloween parties and stuff because we're trying to talk Matt's fiancé into having an ice luge at the wedding.

We definitely had them at my parties. And 10 out of 10, guys. And fire dancers. We should have a drama queen's ice luge. Danielle, why don't we have an ice luge? Here we go. Rob, I feel like you missed... Because Hillary left before you came on the show,

so you missed all these, like, epic parties. Were there any... When you got here, like, was anybody else doing that stuff? No, you guys were all tired. By the time I got there, everyone was exhausted. They were like, no, we can... Go see a movie, kid. Hillary left, she was a lot.

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Give it up for Tyler. You ready? I'm ready. One, two, three, one. Oh my God. Look at all these boys. We chose wisely for the first stop. We really did.

Congratulations. Boston, you're welcome. We did a push-up contest backstage, I won. Yeah. I won. Oh, this is so cool. How much fun is this? I'm dying laughing backstage and all this stuff.

You guys are killing me. I was almost bummed out to come on stage because I was having so much fun just watching, but I'll join the party. All right, when you guys write the first show, I'm going to do a different song here, but this is another one of my favorite ones from the show. See if you guys remember this vibe.

In honor of the road trip, you guys are doing this week, I guess. What was that about the ballroom dancing class I asked about? It's all I've thought about, because you were saying, I might get a chance to talk and talk my turn to dance. Maybe dance might turn to dates and dates ageing. I hope you let your intuition recede my reputation because I have my own. Because I am what you see, I am not what they say.

But if I turn out, me could you love me anyway standing anonymous hope in your heart will just wake up and ask for me by name baby someday you'll ask for me by name no not today Oh, and if this is love

And it's hard to say With your notes and your looks And you're reaching away And I have confidence issues With your intentions And sugar I'm not hip to all your tricks But your algebra and your politics

And the band is a plan to hotel Inevention So don't you leave me on my Lonesome to exceed my reputation Because I have won Because I am what you see I am not what they say But if I turn out to me

Could you love me anyway Sleeping on a miss hope In your heart will just wake up And ask for me by name Maybe someday you'll ask me by name Yeah, all night today. I'm always here. I've walked you home and then I've headed for my own.

Tell again I'm needed. Because I am what you see I am not what they say But if I turn out to be Could you love me anyway I am what you see I am not what they say But if I turn out to be

Could you love me anyway Snipping unknown This hope in your heart We'll just wake up and ask for me by name. Maybe someday you'll ask for me by name. Maybe someday you'll ask for me by name. Oh, night's for me. Oh

Thank you Oh, nice, yeah Thank you guys Man, I've been saying that in a long time That was cool You're so good I always wondered for Chris Keller being such a jerk how he writes such deep songs.

You wrote that? It's a mask, yeah. Holy cow, buddy. I think I wrote that actually on set. About who? Which one of us? Me. Maybe all of you guys.

It's about Psycho Derek. Pass it on. Sweet Matt. There's the sequel. Can I do one more? Do we have time to do one more? Hey, we do whatever we want. Tyler go nuts I'm gonna do it's another one of my favorite ones from the show

we'll see if I get anyone to join me on this one here we'll see Dancing where the evening fell Dancing in my wooden shoes In a wedding girl Dancing out on 7th Street Dancing through the underground Dancing little Marionette Are you happy now?

Yeah Where do you go in you're lonely Where do you go in your blue? Where do you go? When you're lonely, I follow you. When the stars go through. When the stars go. Well, laughing with your pretty mouth.

Laughing with your pretty mind. Laughing with your broken. Laughing with your lover's song in a lullabies. Yeah. Where do you go when you're lonely? Where do you go in your blue? Where do you go when you're lonely? Where you, I'll follow you.

I follow you. Where do you go when you're lonely? Where do you go when you're blue? Where do you go when you're lonely? Where do you go with you lonely? I'll follow you. Follow you Yeah

Yeah When the stars go When the stars go Who When the stars go When the stars go You

When the stars go through Where do you go? when you're lonely, baby. Where do you go when the stars go blue? Blue. Thank you. Stephanie Joy Lenz, everybody. Oh, man.

Tyler Hilton. Tyler. Tyler. Put her on the spot. Tyler, come sit with us. Sit with us. Darling, join us. Come here.

You got it. I mean, that boys are in deceit. Let them sit down. Take your shoes off. Get comfortable. Hey. Hey. All right. Cool.

Hey, hi. You haven't played out in like a while, right? No, in like two years, I feel like. Baby, you came out for us. In fact, to do this trip, I had to open my Sky Miles file, and it says you haven't opened this since February 2020, which, you haven't opened this since February 2020, which, you have. I actually think was a one tree hill convention

was the last show I played. The last thing we went to. Yes. That honestly was like our last dose of civilization. Since that's my way back into the world is with you guys. In this warm womb of love, I feel like.

So warm. Matt, you have to sing a song now. Yep. It's going to be a Kunimatata. Please. Okay, so did you guys overlap on the show at all? Because you both played like bad boys. Did we?

I don't think. I mean, we didn't have any scenes, right? but we... No. What season is? But I would have paid money. Oh my gosh. For the Chris Keller.

I was like, move out of the way. I got this. Derek. And then I get punched. Have you had just shown up in the basement? Oh, my God. Just peeking and be like, oh, wrong room. Sorry.

And then just... Because you were involved in the whole storyline with Nathan being kidnapped, right? I saved the day. I saved the day. Wait, what? I got to be like the hero. You saved the day?

Yes. Shut up. In the most, like, big. bitch manner ever but like I did I like ran hit this guy with my car and then ran away screaming that was me like saving that I was like whatever I'll take it they're like you also get a hold a gun in this episode I was like cool doing something cool they're like no being really dumb and Chris Kelly and I was like all right cool cool cool that's all right that works too yeah his commitment is is really it's prime like we watch episodes and you he just

does things so full out. Like, when you guys did the riverboat episode and James loves you, like, you leaned into that fall so hard. We were sobbing, laughing. Wait, can you talk about that episode a little bit? Because I wish we had had you on the show when we did that

episode, because you guys had, you have some stories, I think, from that. For the boys, you guys remember the Cape Fear River? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You remember the Henrietta? The big, like, old-timey riverboat? They made James and Tyler jump in that shit. Oh, really?

Off of the Henrietta. As like a riverboat casino. Actually, did I tell you the story about my snut double? Did I tell you this? No. This is so embarrassing. So they were on this riverboat and they're like, and I don't know a ton about the business or acting.

I'm kind of like more of a musician. They kind of taught me everything I knew about being on set, honestly. So I'm on this riverboat and this guy walks up and he's got like a cool vibe and he's got cool hair. And I was like, and I never say this to a guy. I was like, cool hair, man, and he's like, thanks. And then he walked away, and somebody was like, that's your stunt double, and he's wearing a wig to match your hair.

And I went up to this guy and said, all like, cool, and now I'm shot, like, nice hair, bro. He's like, you too, it's your fucking hair. I was like, how Chris Keller is that? I was like, I'm so embarrassed. I thought I was jumping off the riverboat, and I wasn't. There was a stunt double. on set to jump off with cool hair. I love that you walked up to a guy you had never met

and you were basically like, hey man, I'm pretty awesome. And he was like, yeah, cool guy, I guess so. He probably hated the hair. They put it on, he's like, who walks around like this? And they're like, the guy that just told you have nice hair, that's him, that's what you. I remember my double had a full-blown mullet and I remember like, I was like, if that's what it looks like,

I think we should cut my hair. Is that what it looks like? No, you look cool. How many times have you had to prove that you don't have the back tattoo? Yeah, that's good, huh? Should I show? Yeah.

Here we go. Yeah. Do you know. Yeah! Yeah! Oh, You're welcome. You're welcome.

Oh, they're with it. I just ruined it. I know. Listen, he's really charming. I think this is a good time to open it up to fan questions. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Oh, no.

Excellent time. I feel like Matt might have some after all of the these years. Do we have Danielle in the audience? Yeah, we got our first one right here. Fabulous. Okay. We can't see you, but... I'm over here. First, I want to shout out my sister's her birthday today. Happy birthday! So my question is, aside from your own characters, is there any character from the show that you feel you relate to the most and why?

Oh. Well, then or now? Because I'm a mom now. I mean, I like Deb. I like the mom that's just like, I don't know. Fuck you guys. Totally. I'm going to do what I want. Totally. Deb.

It's because we have older kids and we're just like, guys, I can't deal with anymore. These like meetings, the PTA meetings and like the things where people want to sell you lip gloss or Tupperware or like all those things on Facebook. We've reached our threshold. Wait, that happens. Yeah, we're full Deb now.

Full Deb. Yeah. These two are nodding and the rest of us are like, Like, oh. Yeah. Okay. It's a fun surly stage. What about you guys?

I mean, I don't know. I gotta be honest, I think my one would be Brooke Davis. I'm just gonna say, like if I couldn't be, I feel like that's kind of female energy, Chris, a little bit sometimes, especially early Brooke Davis. There was a sass and a permiscuity, I think, that they shared. Wait, so how come she leveled up and you never did? Wait, didn't we hook up in the show? we did oh that's right

he remembers was it real or was it a dream but I mean like you know sometimes no I think he was real did I dream this or did we no it's real because just Lucas walks in

that's right that's right and then Brooke cries because she realizes she's a groupie that's right I'm a groupie but also I didn't like that episode very much because I was like

don't shame her she's single because she can do whatever she wants what that girl She's a consenting adult And he has the voice of an angel Hello I mean not adult Well

I was a little yeah I forget I was just right I know we always forget Child Bride That we weren't the same age No I think Chris Keller was like 35 or something Technically

That's dark And I was like so young You were younger than all of us babe So it made it extra So this is funny So I'm younger than them, but on the show, Chris Keller's supposed to be older. So then they aged everybody up. So I was like, okay, Chris Keller's older.

And then the very last scene of the movie or the show, they aged up like 10. So I'm like, Chris Keller's like 70 in this scene. Like, I remember telling the producers. I was like, what kind of math are we talking about? They're like, you're older. You're just older. Just ambiguously older. Yeah, like throw some baby powder in the hair.

Do you remember the bit about Chris Keller's and the lamb, how you had the wig and the beard like Colonel Sanders? Oh, my. It looked like a 70-year-old man. Oh, that's right. That was great. That was great. You didn't see this? You didn't see me in a beard?

No. Oh, I had a big beard. It was awesome. We played all day with it. You weren't there? Oh, my God. We had the best time all day. I mean, it was a beard like this.

I mean, you're on your way. You're on your way. It's like, Santa's Pervert brother. Yes. Give it time. I smell a spin-off. I think what's happening is you're trying to pitch coming back as Chris Keller's brother now.

That's right. Hey, hey, bro. I like that. Hey, great hair. We never established your family. Like, you just, like, appeared out of mist, right? Yes, I peer out of the mist. Well, that's so typical.

I mean, you never had a family, right? Well, you just had, like, a... No. I was like a... Appeared out as of from nowhere. What? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

He's got a kid. Hey, guess what? That kid? Yeah, he's got a kid Listen, that kid worked with us on extant Because it went from You being older this on One Tree Hill

To me being your boss on Exstance So I continually get older and you stay The same age, which is some bullshit But then this kid is telling me all about One Tree Hill like, I don't know That's right, because you weren't on this I'm like, oh, you watch the show And I'm like, baby

you're like how far back if you watched the little boy what do you know about it he was so cute that was a really really good boy let's do another question what do you guys miss the most about filming about filming yeah oh gosh yeah it's just hanging out really that's the fun stuff you know getting in the trailer in the morning and chit-chatting

and we got to do an episode of Sophia show Good Sam and it was so... It just reminded us of how much we love just being together behind the scenes, you know, getting hanging out. Yeah. And also,

I liked when we had really impossible dialogue and we would all just look at each other like, here we fucking go. Yeah. Like, when you know you're doing something dorky with your friends and you're all just like, we're doing it? Yeah, full commitment.

100%. You're like, see you on the soup. What are you going to do is lying? See you on the scene. We're going to get made fun up for this, and we're going down together. Yeah. That's a good feeling.

What do you guys miss about filming our show? Yeah, it's the being on set and the playing. And I feel like on those scenes, we're like, sometimes you get a scene, you're like, all I have to do is not get in the way of this scene and it's going to be great. Sometimes you have like a middle of the road scene where you're like, we can probably find something here.

Maybe this could be good. And then sometimes you get a scene where you're like, how do I just minimize how much of an asshole I'm going to look like? Yeah. And those are fun, though, because you are watching each other, like, how are you going to play that guy? Good luck.

Do it. Do it. Do it. And you always know when you're like, it's not going so well when the other actors are like, is there anything you need from me? Do you want another?

She might want another. Do you want another? Did she want to do that one more time? I mean, we would really get tasked with that stuff sometimes. And I will never forget, and I shan't say who, because it's in the cone of silence for us. but Joy I just was like

I will love her in a way that is so deep that no one will ever understand when we were shooting a scene one day and there was one of these days where the script was just we were like how are we is this a game to the writers today like is this week is this are you testing us and we were mid-scene and Joy looked at

one of the people in the scene and just went stop this is horrible stop you have to start a my God start over and we all we all just went oh but we were like it was thank God she said it we got to we got to figure this out we didn't only because we were close enough for me to do that I would never I know but I loved it I was like there's I love you too much to let you keep going you have to stop we have to make this work how can we do it together and change

it just a little and we did because you'll never know what scene that was and that pleases me congratulations everyone you're great at your job nailed it Matt was there a highlight in Psycho Derek for you was there like a this is the best day at work ever moment I think I went like going out the window you remember that oh my god that was nuts a big stunt thing and I've actually fell on this like you know you actually did it on this cable yeah I did it and I remember going through this glass they're like it doesn't hurt it doesn't hurt it all like That's not true.

Friken hurt. You got cut! Yeah. My back was like shredded. I was like, oh my gosh. Wait, they let you do your own stunts? They got me a stunt dog with him. Are you trained in parkour?

What's your deal? I was going full Tom Cruise, you know? I was like, do not let Tyler jump off this bow. But you, yeah, let's, let, right. What's our next question? What do we got? We got one more. This is the last one.

Okay. No pressure. Hi, so I know on the last podcast episode, you were talking about the theme song. Is there a song that you guys really enjoyed from the show that takes you back to those days today still? We always feel like we're being punked in the grocery store when I don't want to be comes on.

Like, all the time. Do you have that reaction ever, like when that comes on? I hear it, I like twitch a little. Well, especially when you're in public because you look around and you go, is someone looking at me? Like, is this on purpose? Is this a joke?

Pavlov's dog. Like, they play it every time we're, about to do an event or press thing or up. So as soon as you hear it in the grocery store, you're like, what, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. He wants an autograph, once an autograph, hey. And you're like, in the banana aisle. And they're like, they're like, sir, this is a dentist office.

With a 12-year-old boy, we've been listening to lots of, like, lithium or, like, all, like, the Pop 2K kind of radio stations on Sirius. and Gus's thing is, he's like, you know Fall Out Boy? And he has no idea of the storyline, and I'm just like, I'm in a little bit. Wait, refresh me. What was the? Peyton hooked up with Pete from Fallout Boy.

What? Yeah. Like off screen or on screen? No, not on. No, no, like it was a character. Just kidding. Yeah, that's the kind of street cred that makes you cool When you've got a preteen

Yeah, yeah, listen Those bobs still work, man I was introduced to Patty Griffin For the first time on our show They did the rowing song Which I had never heard before And I just remember watching an episode And being like, what is this song?

Who is this singer? And then I just went down the rabbit hole And became like a fan for life Dude, how about we had Janelle Bonnet? You had her on the show? Yeah, I remember she? She played it trick, right? I'm not making up.

When she had the Noisettes. Was that the name of the group? Oh my gosh. Good call. I totally forgot about that. I remember meeting her and being like, wow, she's stunning. And then like seeing her perform and saying like, she's great. So talented.

See her in a movie like a decade later. Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It was before your time, but the same thing with Kid Cutty. Oh, yeah. Like.

Oh, they're very happy right there. Yeah. Like, came on the show to sing Kick Push and then like, I don't know, won 400 Grammys. I was like, well, It was nice to meet you. He was great. Yes.

Yeah, we're cool, Tyler. Wow. We're cool. Cool way than you thought, huh? Yeah. I guess so. I guess the shit got real cool when I left. Yeah.

Okay, so listen, you guys, we have to wrap up this episode of the podcast. No. They have this countdown clock, and it ran out minutes ago, but we're just having a really good time. Yeah, we're just going to sit here. Now it's gently blinking at us. Yeah. It means we have to go, but. Can we come back to Boston next?

year or something. Can you do this again? It's the only way this is not going to feel like Obama. We would love to see you guys again. Yes. If you see Matt Barr on the streets of this city, I want y'all are we going to say when we see Matt Barr? We bet. We've got. There we go. Nailed it. There we go.

You guys. Thank you so, so much. We're going to hate the town tonight with our things of us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Boston. We love you. I have this without you.

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