Drama Queens - LIVE IN NYC feat. Barbara Alyn Woods & Daphne Zuniga

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

The tour continues as the DQ RV takes them to NYC!. They are joined by Barbara and Daphne a.k.a. Deb Scott and Victoria Davis! The drinks continue to flow, and the never-before-heard stories are flowing even faster.Hindsight is an interesting tool…what were their most cringe-worthy moments? And is their room for a Deb and Victoria spinoff?!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, New York City. All right. Thank you so much. Look, I'm out here really to, my wife put me up to this. I don't know. Ladies and gentlemen My three favorite gals The Drama Queens

We are all about that high school Drama Girl, Drama Girl All about them high school queens We'll take you for a ride And our comic girl Cheering for the right team Drama Queens, Drama Queen Smart Girl, Rough Girl, Fashion

with your tough girl, you could sit with us, girl Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. Please welcome to the stage. Your drama queens, Haley Burton Morgan, Sophia Bush, and Bethany Joy Lens. Oh, my God. You guys. Hi! Wow.

You earned that. You're a fire. Fire? I did it for you. Thank you guys so much for being here. Hi, New York. Wow. New York.

NYC. What? Is it about you? Guys, you know I'm a Jersey girl. Where are my Jersey girls out? Yes, Jersey. I love my bridge and tunnel girls. Guys, this is, this is a trip.

Do y'all know that the first time, the three of us were ever in New York together, was to do TRL. Anybody remember that? We went to see a Broadway show. We saw, we went to see a Broadway show. We saw Kristen and Edina do Wicked. Like, the original.

Which is, we were talking about this backstage because it feels like such, I don't know, it's poetry in motion that we went to see all together a show all about female friendship and here we are creating a show for you guys in New York all about female friendship. I mean, not that I'm like comparing us to Adina and Kristen like at all.

Tos, toss, toss. But it's fun. Well, look, okay. What's it? Join us for the podcast, fam. This is our first time doing stage. You look good. Is my hair good?

Yeah. Yeah, you look good. No, T.R. The crown. Rip us up. No, you're good. You guys. You look good.

Okay, go. Our very first Broadway stage show. This is us. We don't need real Broadway. We're downtown girls. I need real Broadway. Downtown girls. So once a week, we get together, and we get to watch the show, take a lap down memory lane, and record our podcast together.

So it feels really, really special. This is our first time out recording with an audience. So thank you guys for being a part of our show tonight. Thank you. Can we get a big drama queens for everyone listening at home? Okay, awesome. Who here is following us on social media? That's cool.

That feels fun. Okay, so you know that we're on this RV trip. We didn't look like this on the RV trip, guys. Let me tell ya. Girls, tell them how it went this morning. Well, you're a lunatic when you drive. Listen, I have to give you props because she got the RV on Friday. I don't know.

Friday. Yeah. Because we met up on Saturday and had one day to practice. And today, getting across the George Washington Bridge, in a 30-foot vehicle, y'all, I had to hang out of the window like this and go, I'm so sorry, William, please let us over. Sophia made friends on the George Washington. That's what we needed, the crown and the flowers, just to, like, throw at the passengers on the TWP, like, please let us through. Yeah, we only got in a couple fights, but it's good if you're going to get in a fight to be with this crowd, because it's all fist to count. So, Vian, I were in the back. There's a mattress in the back of the RV. The first thing we did this morning after we got out of the hotel was, like, crawl into the bed at the back and just go to pull the covers up and we went to sleep.

And then they started up the RV, and it was like, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good. Then it was like, we're going to blame that on the streets of the street. boss? Yeah. It was okay. What we learned is that when you hit a bump that feels normal in the front of a vehicle, it's 30 feet long, by the time it hits the back, it's kind of like an earthquake. Airborne, fully airborne, the two of us, just floating in this match above the mattress. What's real cool is that I have a rearview mirror that does zero for me in navigation.

I can't see anything behind me, but I can see when their bodies catch air because you can see the light underneath their bodies. So maybe we'll have to set up a camera in the van. I really think we should. Oh, that's a fun idea. Let's do that. Oh, my God, are we doing Peyton's webcam? Jokes on you, too. Right?

Fine, fine. Okay, so we're all about journeys. We're all about trips with your best friends. Who is here with their best friends? I love that. Okay, tell them what we're doing. Well, so there's this super cool company that one of the great things about our job is that we get to handpick our sponsors. and we tell you guys about these companies that we really love,

and one of them is called Cheap Caribbean, and they're sending one of our listeners and their best friend on a vacation in the Caribbean. Yeah, that sounds fun. Now, listen, we love our RV. We're not jealous that perhaps two of you in this very audience might be going to the Caribbean. That's fine.

We're happy for you. Good for you. We might try to come. Don't be surprised if we're just like in the cabana next door. And I'm only saying that because the folks from cheap Caribbean are here tonight, so if you win the trip, Give them some applause. Yeah, give them some applause.

Oh, please. Yes. Where are you? I can't see anything, but we know you're here. Did your girls know that there's tequila on this table? I do. Are you going to make us a cocktail? I feel like I should make something out of it. Joy.

It appears we have a cocktail. Tell them what we're doing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is a good one. Okay. This is actually one of my favorites because I love grapefruit juice, and we love tequila because we like to party. So we're going to do tequila and mezcal because it's smoky and it's fun.

It's a spicy, it's a cheap Caribbean spicy paloma. Okay, wait, where's my microphone? That's your microphone. I'm going to hold this for you to tell them what's in it. We're going to walk them through it. Right now. Joy is putting in one ounce of tequila. Write it down, write it down.

Do the announcer voice. She's got to find her tools. How many of you have made the drinks that we make on our show? Anybody? Yeah. Oh, okay. One ounce of tea. Tequila.

Now, if you're wondering... A half ounce of mezcal. Very nice. If you're wondering how to enter the contest to perhaps go to the Caribbean, again, I know you wish you were in the RV, but the tropics will have to do. Just go to our Instagram. You'll follow us. You'll follow them.

You'll be entered to win. Three quarters of a one ounce of pineapple juice. And you can be drinking pineapple juice on the beach before you know it. What more could you? You want? I don't know. Three-quarters now. It's a grapefruit soda.

Uh-huh. Well, juice. Because if you put soda in there and then you shake it, it's going to be... Don't measure. She never measures and wait till you see her shake this. It's going to be a disaster. Yeah. Wait, you see me shake it.

It's disaster every time. Okay. What else? Where's my jigger again? Did they bring you a towel tonight? Oh, they did. It's over there. Yes.

Well, we've got agave. So it's a half an ounce of agave syrup, which feels like that much. Uh-huh. And... Science. Pinio, which we won't shake, so. All right. You don't want to shake the jalapeno? Yeah. Front row.

I believe in you. Watch out. Give her a round of applause, people. Encourage our gal. Yes, yes, yes. I'm going to get cups for you. Okay. Yes, Mama. Yes, Mama. Oh.

Yay. Oh. You guys paid extra for that. All right. Here it comes. Give it, give it. You need your, you need to top it off with soda. And a little jalapeno.

Okay. All right, make it beautiful. Here's what's going to happen. You finished making that? Listen, I need a friend. Are there any drinking buddies here? Who has an ID? Okay, no, listen, stop it, stop it right now.

We had so much underage drinking on our show. Yeah, we did. We don't condone it. The first person to show me their ID gets the drink. Come on. ID, ID, ID. You, it's you. It's you.

She said, holy shit. Okay, no. Pass out that ID. You're making me kneel down and address. Okay. Do you want a jalapeno or no? Pass me there. Okay.

I don't. Hey, guys. Is it Ashley or Iris? Ashley Iris is our new best friend. Everybody's going to say hi. What's going on, babe? Where are you from? You're from New York State.

I'm not going to tell anybody your address. Would you hand that to her? You are 21? She's 21. No. She's 27. I can do math. Science.

Come on. Oh, they changed the... Oh, New York State's so smart. Okay, Ashley, Iris, what do you do? I actually worked for a mom-side-I-N-O-G-Y-N. Are you kidding? Really? So do you deliver babies?

No. No, I work on more of the traditional side, so I helped the doctor. Listen, you got to deal with a bunch of cranky women. God bless you, baby. You needed that drink. She earned that drink. Give it up for Ashley Iris. Don't take pictures at my dress.

All right, ladies. Yeah, did you make me a drink? Is it that time? Sophia's break an ice. You need an ice pick. We were taking pictures backstage. We realized we all look like the twins from The Shining. Don't think we didn't take that picture.

Yeah, yeah. Check your feed. So, I feel like we have such strong female energy in the house today. We should probably bring out some other strong females. I think it's time. Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?

Oh, yeah. You can make more. drinks once they're out. More drinks, more drinks. Are you guys? I can't multitask. To hang out. Are you sweating?

Are you okay? You guys, she's working so hard. She's like, Donna Summer. She works hard for the money. So hard for it, honey. But you look fabulous. And you know who else looks fabulous tonight? Our moms!

Come on out! Death News, Zuniga, and Barbara Allen Woods! I'm in a while I'm in for so long Stay so good to sing because it's not good for me I love to fix our skin is to fix our skirt to make sure that it's not I love to make sure that it's not tucked into the bag of it's like Showing your ass girls. Everyone backstage, we're like, well, they know us.

They know us. If we had only known, we'd be wearing our puffy dresses, too. Yeah. You guys, honestly, you set the bar so, so high for us, because we got to look up to you in so many different ways, as business women, as actresses, as, like, our mentors. So thank you so much for being here. Oh.

I'm a hot mess. I'm sorry. Yeah. Here, here. Barbara, for you. Ethan, oh, thank you. Is this the cheap Caribbean Paloma? Oh, girl.

Yes, love it. She knows how the business work. So good. A little homage to Deb Scott. Yeah, that's right, baby. What'd you say, Barbara? She's so naughty. What did you say?

What did you say? A little homage to Deb Scott. Oh, there it is. Y'all are cheering loud. I like it. Had you gotten to play a bad girl before? Depp didn't start out as a bad girl. She was really sort of the voice of reason at first.

And Daphne and I were just talking about this. I think as the writers got to know who I really was, she's sort of, I don't know, evolved. Evolved, that's a great word. But became so much more fun. Like, who wants to be the good girl? It's not as fun. Tell me about it.

That's true. you got bad you got bad you were so bad you went there work started bad we kind of swapped yeah we did um so i was just so happy so um yeah started out good went a lot worse and loved every minute of it you had so much fun i loved watching you work you're just you came in so effortless and we always just respected so much both of you guys the way you came in here we were blown away by your well i mean that was not effortless for me to be that bitch Just want to make a point. Definitely's like, no, I'm so nice, guys.

You are so nice. Yeah, but then I spent a couple months with that place, and I was like, okay, I get it. I can find things to be pissed off about. It took a lot of, it was hard to be mean at first, but, and I'm glad that Victoria did warm up, of course, with this one here, and we had some great storylines. We really did. We really did. And because I'm older than these guys, I had to watch it recently, because I didn't really

remember what the hell happened on the show we don't remember either we don't same okay so as long as you don't ask what's your favorite moment yeah no one asked that but anyway um yeah i feel like uh i know victoria started out really bitchy and it was hard for me in the beginning and you know i got some direction can you be even meaner meaner and then i was just pissed and i was like okay and then i remember coming to the makeup trailer a couple of times or on set. I think Joy was there in the makeup trailer and just, I'm going to show these MFers what I could do. And I came in on characters. Yeah, Ellen's libation. God bless you, Daphne. Anyway, I just, and a couple of times, they would look at me going, and I'm like, I'm kidding, you know, because I would come on like to care you.

Everybody was scared of Daphne. Yeah. Except me, though, because I remember, I was like, I have this distinct memory of being at the craft service table with you. And we were at the recording studio. I don't know why I remember this, but I remember being there, and I heard you make a joke. It was some sarcastic remark, I don't remember what it was, but it was to a crew member who was next to you, and he didn't laugh. And I remember thinking, oh, she's got a dry sense of humor. Like, she's joking. I love this woman. And it was like instantly, because I wasn't sure I hadn't worked with you a lot, but I had heard everybody was like a little nervous because you were doing this, you were being in character and doing what

they asked you to do. So that was really fun and suddenly it shifted everything around and I was like following you around like a puppy dog. I feel like I followed you everywhere in Wilmington. I was always calling you like, Daphne, come be my friend. Tiffany, Daphne, Daphne. I love you. It was always so funny to me that people were intimidated by you because we were in love immediately. People with me. And I was like, no, you guys, she's really amazing. But then people would come do scenes with her and she would like turn on the Victoria eyes, the ice face. And everyone was like, she's so scary. And I was like, she's just. just a really good actress.

Yeah, she's really good. She's really good. Well, yeah, because my first interaction with you is like you tearing Peyton a new one. Like, you're just like, no time for you, kid. And it, like, to me, felt real. And I'd been on the show for years and was like, what just happened? The entire power dynamic is shifted. The boss is here.

And so for you, I mean, we grew up watching things that you were in, Daphne. And there was a lot of like, oh, my God, she's coming here. I couldn't believe we got you. We were, like, just amazed. And so the difference in, like, when you were coming up versus, like, where we were on One Tree Hill, like, what were the differences that you noticed? Oh, my gosh.

Oh, God, I can't think four back. Give her the drink. Give her the drink. Where's your cheap Caribbean spicy below? I have to say, it was nice, you know, and Barbara can, will agree with me, right, Barbara? Yeah. I agree.

I agree. Everything. We never did a scene together. That just sucks, man. Wait, is that true? You never had a scene together. I don't even know if we ran into each other in the makeup trailer. We never crossed paths.

It's just so bizarre. It was all you and we would have been friends. I wish we had just known each other and hung out. What would that scene look like? Yeah. What would the, the Deb Victoria? What would have happened? This.

I need that spin-off today. Yeah, really. We were having fun just driving over here in the backseat doing videos. Actually, her daughter was doing the videos because I was like... She was videotipy. She said, oh, my God, this, you guys have to do a show, like an older Thelma Louise or something. I don't know, like something because I'm... We were driving down here and I'm like, everyone posts every freaking minute of their life.

Like, we should be posting. Yeah. Okay, so hold this. Someone video us, and then her daughter, Emily, is like, Do you want me to do it? Yeah. You want me to post it? I'm like, do I'm like, do I'm like, yeah, do it all.

Edit it, do it, put it in story post. I don't know. Anyway, what you're saying is you have an influencer assistant who lives with you? This feels amazing. It sounds like, my social media assistant, Emily. Yeah, guys, I put it like five TikToks, never. It's very stressful. Where is she?

Emily. Okay. So Barbara has the privilege of working with her daughter right now. But you, I mean, I have so many questions because, first of all, when you came on this show, you were a mom to all of us. And we've talked about this before when you came on. But just to reiterate, I mean, Barbara was our first, like, big, warm mom hug on this show that we could always, arms that were always open that we could go to. And I know you had to kind of shepherd us and James was so he was the youngest on the show. I mean, he was 17. He was so sweet.

and green and your kids were so young at the time but now that they're older and in the industry what i mean did that sort of the experience that you had with us and with james and you know all of us on that show did that inform how you have raised your daughters in the industry because they work all the time and there are lovely people they're very well adjusted we're proud it's amazing and it's funny that you say we're proud because they really grew up on the set of one tree hill and I had my third while I was working, and all of you know because my boobs were like triple G, and everyone thought I'd had a boob job,

and that's right when social media kind of started. Like, during One Tree Hill, you taught me how to send a text. I did? Yes, on my flip phone. I had a flip phone, and everyone else was getting iPhones, and I was like, I'm never going to get an iPhone. You had a blackberry? I know I'd like a little flip phone, but I had to, like, each letter.

She said on Nokia. Joie? And then Sophia put me out. You put me on Twitter. And I still don't know my password. No, I don't know it either. You better have it in your phone somewhere. And she said, watch this. And I said, I don't need to do this. She doesn't know watch this. And then she signed me up. And all of a sudden she's like, followers. Like what? It was just like overnight. It was crazy. Oh. And I've so many stories about you. Yeah, you got me on Instagram. I remember it's all sitting around. So one of the differences is back in the 80s and the 90s, we were like, nitty. and playing backgammon and like reading or you know having crushes or something and then on this set i remember when we started it wasn't the beginning but you started to do the phones and do the social media and i'm like literally everyone's just sitting around yeah it's kind of sad and so you got me on though and then i'm like sophia what are you doing she's like oh they're fighting with

this dumb ass you you like that's still sophia like into your life and then you fight with them. My favorite thing is when someone on the internet tells me that a fact about social science research isn't true and I'm like watch me reply to you with a 10 thread with a 10 tweet thread and I will send you

articles, research, and published papers that have been peer-reviewed motherfucker. We're just going to say, Daphne, they're here for us. They know who we really are. They know. But I know how

I felt the first time I played a woman with a teenage daughter. And I was like, you know, you show up on set and you're like, whoa, okay, I guess I'm mom now. Yeah. The first time you guys showed up and you're like, oh, these girls I can go drinking with are our kids. What was that experience like? Because it's not accurate. Well, what I love now is that you are in your stage of life that we were probably, you know, while we were shooting One Tree Hill and you have little ones and getting married and I was doing all that. I was doing all that. that during when as soon as I got the gig. And so I really didn't have teenagers at the time. And I didn't really know that the things you were doing were that inappropriate. I just thought that's what kids do. I guess that's what I have to look forward to that they're going to be sleeping around and drinking a lot when they're like 15. Like I don't, I, yes. But you would never, Emily. You would never. And it wasn't until later when I actually had teenagers where I looked back and went, that was really inappropriate some of the things that you guys were doing. And then my kids watched the show because they were too young

to watch at the time. They watched later and they were like Mom, you were going to work and doing those things? We had no idea. Keep your clothes on. What was the storyline that shocked them the most? Was it Deb and Skills in the hot tub? I mean... We loved it. There was one scene and I have to say

it's the only scene I think I've ever shot in my life that I've never seen because I couldn't watch it. And it was in front of the internet when I flashed. I was a little bit mortified because you know when you're shooting it you have crew shooting it so what I mean it was a little bit awkward and by then

you know everybody so well and believe it or not it's almost more awkward to be vulnerable in front of people you know really well and you've worked with for seven years and it was a little bit strange and that's the only scene seriously to this day that I've ever shot in my life that I never watched. The one where you're on the billboard?

No, I love that. Oh, I wasn't there! We haven't done it yet. We haven't got it. I was online and I just wanted to like sell myself and so I flashed somebody. Right. Yeah, somebody else can probably tell the story better. We're not there yet.

We're only on season three. Oh, my guys. We're in season three. Calm down. Did you ever do anything on the show that you thought was inappropriate? Well, when I read the script, remember when I had the, I took a young lover? Yeah. Daphne?

Which is not an issue. I mean, for me. I mean, then. Anyway, I'm married now, and I probably... But, yeah, it was odd to read the script where, you know, I was supposed to do things with him that I was like, I haven't done that in like 15. Why would I do that now?

Like, what are you talking about? He's the young one supposed to be impressing me. Yeah. Like, exactly. You're kidding me? Anyway. I've always loved that about you. I got so when I had the time that I spent with you in Wilmington I were just it's so dear to my heart because I remember the confidence that you had and it was just so being so young and you know impressionable with and we're in juggling so many personalities and things it's just hard to hold yourself and have that confidence you know I I I I to answer your question and on that joy and to answer your question Hillary I don't have kids and I never um when I was playing your mom

and you guys, I felt close and protective. I felt so protective. You were my kids. Because I know that, you know, I was older, and so I had been through already stuff when I was younger and trying, you know, you're on set and people trying to get you to all kinds of crazy shit.

And it's like, you don't even pay me enough to not do that. Not wrong. So anyway. So I did. feel protective, which I think worked for our relationship. It wasn't a motherly relationship anyway. It wasn't maternal. It was... I'm in the beginning on screen. Yeah, it grew into that. You know, it was really amazing. Our closeness, I think, was so fun for me as an actor and such a respite from so much of what we were dealing with all the time at work. And as you were

talking about what it was like when she would come in, it's like I had like a, almost like a flashback of it in my mind. And I don't know if we've ever told you this because you haven't been on the show yet. We're only in season three. She's coming. Don't worry. But when you would come to work, set was different.

And maybe it's because people were scared of Victoria. Or maybe it's because people, you were a new grown up. And you had that protective energy. And And yeah, I don't know. You know, they had pushed you in the wild girl zone. And we didn't get to see you much.

Like, we didn't all get to work with you by that point. But you, you became the mom who was doing mom, I mean, slash business things at work on set. And it was different when you were around. I think people were like, we really can't fuck with that. Yeah, we're not going to laugh. And it was so impressive to us. It was such a thing that, you know, we've carried. through the work we've done as we've grown up.

Well, I'm glad. I'm really glad. I mean, I have felt in the past when I was younger, very vulnerable on sets and very, you know, and whether it's, but, you know, I just felt like young, I just feel like that's such a vulnerable part of the population, young girls more than others, you know, and you guys weren't even that young when I came on. It was season five, but, you know, God,

okay, so I'm going to be 60 in two weeks. No. Hello? Hello? I'm not bragging. I'm not bragging. It's mortifying and also bragging. We'll brag for you.

My memory, own it. Like, I was about to say something, and then I don't even know what I'm saying. So, woo. But here. It's the poloom. I'm like, what's my excuse? Because that happens to me every day.

No, but anyway, I did feel protective. And also, you know, it's like, I'm, I was too old to go and fool around. And like, you better show up, you know, the filmmakers and the who's there and stuff. And that's when it's fun for me when people take it seriously. You guys taught us, you guys both taught us that because I remember the times. And Moira, too. I mean, we looked up to you guys so much. in professionalism and just trying to figure out the ropes of what are we doing.

I mean, I had probably been in the business the longest out of the three of us because I started when I was like 12. But I hadn't been an environment where, especially when you're a kid actor, you don't have a lot of people who are really teaching you things and talking you through things, which is why so many of them like go crazy. But thank God, I ended up on a show with women like you guys who, it was just in our space all the time to look at you. and emulate and understand what professionalism looks like

and what a history of a career looks like and what the expectation of the performance on set should be like, not performance by actors, but how everyone is behavior on set should be. It's so funny that you say that because I think we looked up to you, if not more. I mean, the three of you were stellar in every way. I learned so much from you guys

as I start getting emotional right now. I mean, seriously, so much. I mean, not just like how to do Twitter. You guys were so impressive and I have three daughters and I it's just the way I look at you now is sort

of how I look at my three daughters and I'm just so proud of all of you. Oh my gosh, what you're doing. And my 20 year old daughters said tonight they have so much energy. Like why do they get it? It's just you are so impressive and I'm proud of you and I was then and I'm even more than. Thank you.

We need you guys in the RV. You want to come with us to the next time? Who's driving? Yeah. Who is driving? Hillary, Jeffer is backstage telling us that you were driving and he was a little concerned. Jeff, no, to be on, look, she did great. She is a really good driver, actually.

I was just kidding before. She was great. She was very cautious. She tried to hire a private driver the day before our tour started because he didn't trust me to drive the RV and I just want to say that I won this fight. Thank you so much. All right, we're in. We're in.

We're in. We're in. We're in. Just put a notch in the column. You know who's responsible for the RV of it all? Our next guest, you guys. This man showed up at my farm driving an RV. And if this ding-dong could do it, I could definitely do it.

Please give it up for Tyler Hilton. What up, New York? Oh, my God. Do you want him to sing? Oh, my God. Let these ladies do some. Let these ladies do some drinking, I think. All right, you guys let me know if you need to hear anything louder, just be like.

Well, wheels running fast down the 118. Have a kisser sweeter with some nicotine and little white lightning underneath my seat, oh, yeah. Sun's going down like a sinking stone A dog's barking in the distance Someone throw my bone You got that look on your face Like something's gonna go wrong Oh yeah, oh yeah, give me that guitar

Where you're looking so good In that cotton dress There's just no telling what I do next One thinks for sure it'll sure be fun Stay away from my trigger I'm a loaded gun. Stay away from my trigger. I'm a loaded gun.

I'm a moving target, baby. No one's gotten through me, yeah. But if you're worth a shot, it'll be something that you won't forget. And I gotta wind up a crown. You guys are all right to the text. Go to learn to swim. You gotta wanna get wet.

There's no turning back once I'm ready Stay away from my trigger, I'm a loaded gun. Stay away from my trigger, I'm a loaded gun. Yeah. Oh, yeah, baby. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Oh, yeah. We shoulda load me. Oh. Yeah, sweet. I can't even say that shit on mic. I'm so embarrassed. I'm a load man. Yeah, squeeze me, honey, yeah.

Well, cock me, mama. Oh, shoot me, well, shoot me. Sugar, I'm a moving target, baby. No one's gotten through me, yeah. We know what shot to give me, honey? It's worth a shot. It was something that you won't forget. Yeah, yeah, a regret.

Well, baby, I'm gonna be your next tattoo. After all the things I'm gonna do to you. I don't have to round the basis. Should I hit home run? Stay away from me, darling, I'm a loaded gun. Stay away from my trigger, I'm a loaded gun. Here it comes now. Comes now, five, four, three, two, one.

Stay away from my trigger, I'm a doled gun. Oh, man. Thank you, guys. You can't talk like that. You're somebody's dad, Tyler. You guys, he sang that song last night in Boston and somebody screamed out, yeah, daddy.

And we all went, okay. Not no, but oh God. Not no. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my. All right, can I do another one? Are you guys hanging?

What's that? Is that a request? You know that. You know that. I'll do it if you do it. You know. You want to do it? I'm doing it.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Dancing where the stars go blue. Dancing where the stars go blue. Dancing where the evening fell Dancing in my wooden shoes In a wedding girl

Well dancing out on 7th Street Dancing through the underground Dancing Little Mary Oh yeah Yeah I am happy now Where do you go when you're blue

Where do you go when you're blue Where do you go when you're lonely I'll follow you When the stars go blue When the stars go blue. We're laughing with your pretty mouth. Laughing with your pretty mouth. Laughing with your broken eyes.

Laughing with your broken eyes. Laughing with your lover's tongue. in a lullaby Yeah Where do you go when you're lonely Where do you go when you're blue Where do you go when you're lonely I'll follow you

I will follow you Where do you, I will follow. Where do you go when you're lonely, yeah? Where do you go when you're blue? Where do you go when you're lonely? I'll follow you. Follow you, yeah. When the stars go blue.

When the stars go blue When the stars go blue Where do you? Where do you go when the stars go blue? You guys are killing me. It's too beautiful. Yeah. Tyler Hilton. Tyler, come have a seat.

Listen, I can't be the only person that thinks that maybe Haley should have spent a little bit more time with Chris Keller. I mean, come on. You guys are saying that shit now. I got a lot of crap for it at the time, though. What, when do stars go, like, just bear with me. When do stars actually go blue?

What is this song about? Can we just stop? I mean, we've all loved this song for a song. Have we ever stopped and been like, what is this song talking about? What's the other song talk about? Is it like Dawn? Are the stars going blue because they're fading into the back of the sky?

What's the other song talking about? What's the science, Sophia? I do believe you have. I realized when you first asked the question, I was going to say something, and I was like, it's rhetorical, it's a joke. I'm just going to wait. I do believe it is when the dawn breaks joy, and the stars fade into a bright blue sky.

Into a bright blue sky, thank you. Okay, so it's running about staying up all night. Yeah. You've been out of being out, probably because you've been making out, and then the stars go blue. You'd think in the last 15 years I would have thought of that. Or Googled it. Just didn't.

Whatever. Not till tonight. I've googled. Tyler, you were surrounded by queens right now. Being the bad boy on our show, did you ever get to experience Barbara or Daphne? Did you guys have scenes together? You guys did, right?

I'm just wondering why Deb Scott never crossed your path. Yes. The show didn't last long enough. As you were up there singing, I was like, why didn't that ever happen? Why didn't? Yeah. When I was hearing you talk about how when they started,

it started making you bad, it was more fun. I felt the exact same way. I feel like they started doing that to me and I was like, yeah. It's so much better. So much more fun. Though when I was on the show, it was one of the first times

I started getting recognized all the time and I thought that would be cool one day if I was like famous enough to get recognized. It wasn't. Because everybody was like, hi. I'd be like, hi. And they'd be like, why'd you take Haley on tour? And I was like, I'm sorry, my name's Tyler.

Who are you? But all the time, that's what I got. It was so crazy. Just pure rage. Yeah, pure rage. Do you still get recognized for the show? All the time. All the time.

But I have to say a lot of dudes come up to me about Chris Keller. So many dudes. What are they saying? They all say they're like, Chris Keller. Because they know, like, you know, their girlfriend made them watch it. Just like you guys say, they're like, whatever. And then they're like, this Chris Geller. guys kind of like fucking funny or what I don't know I don't know it gets away with all the things

that they want to do yes I guess I don't know but you're their dream model they're like man if I could only get away with that wait because you hooked up with Brooke yeah you kissed you slapped you no I don't know you saw me no you saw me yeah yeah no what was the straight out real quick um no you had a good track record congratulations yeah yeah it's like chutes and ladders of one I was even in bed with Chad at one point on the show You were. That's right. Chris Keller really got around.

Really got around. Tyler, the last time you played a One Tree Hill concert in New York City, he told us this story the other night, and he's like, remember that show in New York and it was the coolest? And we all realized, like, no, Tyler, we weren't at that show. Please tell us about the coolest show ever. And you guys at the One Tree Hill tour in, like, 2005, by any chance? Nobody or some of you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an amazing turnover. I guess you had a full house. Yeah. That's why everyone was getting free or people. No, but honestly, that is one of the most interesting things about this show is that there were so many people at that live show we did in 2005 and hardly any of you guys were there.

So it's like there are so many fans that just rewatch the show and turn over, and as I go on tour, I see younger and younger people come into it. It's crazy how many people keep getting into it. Well, how many people here are first generation fans? Okay. How many people here are second generation fans? Nice. Cudies.

Wow. That's really nice. Well, we did for second gen's, in case you didn't know, Tyler and I went on tour with Gavin DeGraa and Michelle Branch and the Wreckers. And we did, when Haley went on tour, we actually went on tour. We did a 35 city tour somewhere. I don't know. I'm not going to drive to 35 cities.

It's okay. We'll hire a private driver. Thank you. Hey, Jeffrey. I told Jeff, you need to get your commercial license and get a tour of us. Yeah, Jeff, you want to come drive? It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

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So we're going to take some questions from you guys right now. Oh, where's Danielle? You guys, when you hear us on the podcast, Sophia, tell him who we're looking for. Guys, you know sometimes on the pod when we're like, when was that? Who directed this? And there's like a ping-bang. And then we have an answer. It's because Danielle gives it to us.

Thank you, Danielle. And tonight, she has a mic for y'all so we can do a Q&A and hear you. Okay, where are we looking? Who's got microphones out there? Do we have someone with a microphone? Yeah, go over here. Oh, okay. Hi.

Hi. These lights are so bright. Hi, guys. Hi. What's up? What's your name? My name is Hades. Hi.

Hi. I'm so nervous. Don't be nervous. I'm going to cry. Aw. Don't cry. Stop. Don't mention it. I'm going to... Cry, cry, cry.

Cry, cry. We love crying. Don't feel embarrassed. I cried last night at the show in Boston. Everything is fine. When does Sophia not cry? I know. Not that you're surprised. Me, the email mom, it's fine. Oh, God, God. That's going to be me in a second. I'm going to cry. Okay, so my question is, for each of your individual characters, do you guys have like a favorite, like, kind of turning port or, like, kind of direction that your character took, that you were really, kind of in love with versus

some of the things you have to do kind of. Oh, that's a great question. Interesting question. We never get that one. I love that. Your favorite turning point? Well, we know what Barbara's is. Which episode did it for you, Barb? I have to say, from my turning point when they started writing the whole War of the Worlds, the War of the

roses, all of the perfect suit. Oh, yeah, the War of the Rose is. That's why I wore it. Yeah, for sure. With Paul, that's when everything turned for me, and I never wanted to go back. I never wanted to be good again. I wanted to, like, sleep with young boys and drink a lot and do a lot of drugs. Not that young. You know what you mean?

I didn't, but my character. And I just, seriously, I just wanted to get, you know, worse and worse and worse instead of better and better. And that was my complete. I never wanted to play a good girl again. Did you have a turning point? Oh, you know. my turning point was. I was so happy

when, you know, Victoria, which was so hard in the beginning, she was so hard, there was no heart, no heart, and I just kept having to, you know, tell myself that she was all career, and people who don't show emotion and don't make themselves vulnerable and don't

interact with people and don't get involved, are very terrified of it, because it's very scary to do that. So when she comes to this town and like, it's nothing but the field, all around like everyone's fucking grind upset about stuff and feeling she's just like okay and then when she finally you know becomes a real mom I think when we started to do that totally felt more real when I was you know supporting you and maybe with the with the with the babies that you want to have

but I think it happened even before that when we gave the company back to each other a few times I'm like no you have it I want you as my daughter no you have it I want you as my mom So we were like, okay, you know, that was a great turning point. That's sweet. Did Chris Keller ever turn? I saved the day. Did you turn? I don't know.

I'm the hero of One Tree Hill. Now people come to me all the time. They're like, are you the guy that saved the Shia? Yeah, yes, I saved One Tree Hill, okay? No, I like, I think I saved Nathan's life by accidentally killing somebody and running away screaming. But that counts. It works. It counts.

My favorite turning point probably was when Haley came back from the tour and Nathan was not ready to get back together with her. Just as an actor, that was probably the most fun I had diving into Haley because I think everything after that point, either she was really depressed and angry or she was like happy and just fine and either servicing someone else's storyline or just maintaining the piece so that other people could have drama.

But I really remember that time being, fun to just play with. Yeah. You like fun. What about you guys? They did so much stuff to me, man. Like, what didn't they do? Did Peyton ever get perky?

Like, like once. When we all commented on it, when we watched the podcast, we're like, God, Peyton was really happy in this episode. Yes. Whoa.

Which one was that? Oh, it's Jake. Hey. Hey. They know. Thank you, Brian Greenberg. It was once. What about you?

I really loved, because there was so much in the first seasons where I'd get a script and be like, why have to do what? Hot tub, what? You guys, like, please no more. And then this, you know, girl who was constantly trying to figure out if she was valuable based on the opinions of other people,

started to value herself. She leaned into her own creativity. She literally said in the script, she stopped letting boys define her. And I, like, I think most of us needed to see that. And it was really cool to be on that journey with Brooke while I was on my own version of that journey of figuring out who I was, not just being like,

a good friend, a good daughter, a good worker, good on set, know my lines, and everybody else. What a pleaser. God. And then I was like, actually, I have an opinion. You want to hear about it? Now it's your whole job, Sophia. You did it, kid.

We did it. We did it. That was a great question. Thank you so much. We have another one more. Let's do another. Who has the mic? Just start talking.

Microphone, talk. Hi. Hi. Oh, she's just going to yell. Girl, stand up You guys, go for it. We like bold. To ourselves or our characters.

Could be both, whatever you feel more comfortable. Oh, hi, hi. Whatever you feel more comfortable. For those podcasts listeners at home, our lovely friend here just asked what our advice would be to our younger characters, our younger selves. Yeah, we've answered this a conversation. couple times. And so if you have missed this answer, it is pleasure. We spent so much time crying

about stuff and worrying about stuff and fretting about stuff. Follow pleasure. Find fun, find friendship, kiss whoever the hell you want to kiss. Get weird. Make up terrible stories so that we're old people, you've got stuff to talk about. And by the way, when you're pursuing that pleasure, ignore anyone who wants to shame you for. for it. Anyone who shames your joy goes in the trash can. Like, if we're not having fun on this crazy planet, what are we doing? Go have a good time. I definitely would have told myself to just relax a little bit, you know? Like, life is just a bowl of cherries. All right, I'm sorry. I don't know why I sing all the time. Barbara, what? No, but Haley needed to relax. I think I needed to relax.

But also, like, don't be so afraid. I was so afraid when I was young. I was so afraid. I was so of not doing everything exactly the right way. And, like, it came from a really good place. I really wanted to please my coworkers, my bosses, God. Like, I just wanted to do everything the right way. And, you know, life is messy. It's so messy. And you have to keep a humble heart and don't be so focused on yourself. I would have told myself, serve more. Focus on how you can be of service. Focus on, you know, what you can do in the lives of the people around you. And you'll find your way, but I think we're in a culture of so much self-focused, and it really does make a huge difference in your ability to have gratitude when you just are looking at the community

around you and seeing ways that you can serve. So I just, to be honest, that's what I would have told myself when I was in. I can't follow that. No, but you literally have three daughters. Okay, so when I book One Tree Hill, and I came in a little bit later than everybody else, on episode three or something, I knew that this was golden. And this was exactly what I wanted. I was raising my kids in the most beautiful city. We love, have you all been to Ritesville Beach? Have you all been?

It's my home. It's my heart. And I promised myself that every day I would go to work, I would touch my trailer in a certain place, touch my trailer. And that would be my gratefulness toward this job and what it brought to me. And it's still bringing to me every day. and all of you guys.

And so every single day, I was grateful, grateful, grateful, every day, grateful. And why I'm telling you this is I would tell my younger self, you should be more grateful, but I was grateful. I knew I was in something special, and I appreciated it every single day. I felt that from you on set. I felt it. Love that. Thank you.

What a great question. I would have done more of the show. At the time, I was touring a lot. I didn't know, like, initially I went on the show just to promote a single or something and then they'd asked if I could do more episodes and I was obsessed with it and my label, whatever. But if I had to do it over again,

I would have done every single episode they'd offered me because it was some of the best times in my life and I wish I had more of them. I really do. And then you would have gotten to kiss Barbara. Yes. Hello. And Daphne.

Hello. Three-sum, three-sum. Don't shame us. Don't shame us. Don't, no, no. Don't. Daphne, you had it all figured out. As a young person, did you have it all figured out?

She kind of did. She's like, I did. Everyone thought I did, and so I would go with that. But inside, I felt a lot of not worthy enough, not worthy enough, not good enough. You know, divorced family, moved around a lot, et cetera, et cetera. I came to Hollywood, knew nobody. So I think I would tell my younger self, first of all, I've learned, oh, my gosh, love her. whatever you can. I love you. I love you. You fuck up. I love you. It's okay. Like a good mom.

Like be the good mom. That's what I would have done to her as opposed to abandon her and say, oh my God, I can't believe you. You know, like shame her. Kind of the little microaggressions that we talk about. We do to ourselves a lot. And I think I would say, nope, you know, support her. It's okay. Messed up. Not a big deal. Because I get that from my marriage now and from him. and it just taught me a whole new way to, wow, it's not such a big deal, you know? So, whereas when I was young, I was trying to appear that I knew everything.

So, but inside it was a different story. So that's what I would do for sure. And I wish you did do more. And I wish that, you know. No, that was like, I will remember that, what you just said for so long. It's such a really succinct, beautiful way to put that.

And you know, the other thing I would say, which reminds me in this podcast is, my mom was a preacher, so I could do that, you know, I'm kind of like have a little bit of her, But I would say... Wait, I would go to Daphne's. Yeah, I would say that, honestly, I've been listening to this podcast and going back and watching the show, and I get why the fans love it.

But it was a seed, and you guys have turned this into this whole other animal. And it's who you are, and it's your authenticity, and it's what you, as alchemist, turned what happened to you in life into this. and it's blooming and growing and we're all so attracted to it. I'm so attracted to them. And no, it's you now.

It's you now. You can't lie to yourself. No, he hates to cry. We need to plant a tree now, I think. Get out of here, we're all crying. That is the whole mantra of our show. Be nice to the little animal inside of yourself. So we are so grateful that you guys have joined us

for this taping of drama queens. Thank you so, so much. How many of you were going out with your friends after this? You guys going out to party? All right, I want you to go get weird. Go be queens tonight, you guys. We love you guys. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Let's do it. Thank you all. Good night, guys. Hey, I'm going to get my code. Hey, I'm going to get to something, oh. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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