Drama Queens - LIVE IN PHILLY (Part 2) feat. Paul Johansson & Torrey DeVitto

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

Paul and Torrey join Hilarie, Sophia and Joy as they wrap up their road trip with a Q&A live from Philly! And what better way to get comfortable for some hard hitting, thought provoking fan questions than…with a pajama party!You can go ahead and slip into your own jammies for the listen… we’ll wait.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.

We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama, girl, cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama, Queens. Guys, it's the end of tour. We were like, let's have a pajama party.

Oh, damn. You know? Why not? We like pajama party, by the by. Yeah. Yeah. You guys, this tour, we had no idea what you expect. No, we didn't know what we were doing at all.

It's a learning experience. Yeah. We learned how to drive an RV. Well, you learned how to drive an RV. You learned. You guys learned how to not distract me. so we don't miss our exit. Joy and I have almost learned how to stand

on a moving RV. Almost. We'll get there. I tried to learn how to sleep in the back of an RV, but... We learned how to do a super quick run-through and then wing a one-hour show. That's exciting, right?

Yeah. Because we're not getting any younger and remembering an hour's worth of material is... But we also learned that our audience shows up and it makes the podcast. podcast so much better when we get to interact with you guys in a real way, so thank you so much for being here. Thank you. It's so special. I would love to answer any questions that you

guys have. Well, are we bringing out other friends? Oh, right. Sorry. My brain is like... We asked Paul and Tori if they'd come do Q&A with us. Are they here? You guys? If they're ready. Yeah! Bring them out! Bring them out! Listen, guys, we're having to. Listen, guys, we're having a pajama party you know it's oh you're gonna have to sleep in the buff apologies yeah we want to answer as many of your questions as possible yeah our first question of the night's gonna be for Megan hi Megan hi this is happening okay so I have a weird request and then a question okay my weird request is that two minutes ago my Be Real notification went off would you take my Be Real do you know

yeah I love it I know what be real The mom's not enough time. What is Be Real? I'm a Be Real Pro. Can somebody hand that to me so I don't break my ankle? It went off two minutes ago. I was like, this would be, I kind of not asked. Yeah, okay.

So here's what's up. Lean in. Okay, so that's what's happening there. And then this is what's happening here. Ready? Wow. Okay. Hold on.

Horrible. Do you guys want to be real? And then we do this. And so it's us and her, and then we send it. Fantastic! Okay, and you can't filter it or edit it or anything. Lord, we learned new things today. Wow.

You just made my life, so thank you. You asked exactly the right person. Yeah. Because Joy and I would have taken 30 minutes to Google it. Yeah. I'm like, wait, do I have a notification? I don't know. Be real notification.

You learn something new every day. Yeah. My question, though, is you guys were the three best women to ever be cast in this role, but if One Tree Hill were to air today, who would you choose to play yourselves? Like what new young actresses? Oh, that's fine. Who's a good young Haley?

I don't really know who a lot of the young crowd is right now. I'm still kind of everyone knows I'm obsessed with Meg Donnelly. Yeah. I love your zombies. Listen, I love her on zombies. I love her on Winchesters. We had dinner with her. Like, I'm obsessed with this girl, and

I'm trying so hard not to be the creepy older lady. But I'm like, hey, if you want to like hang out sometime, that'd be cool. and like I am the creepy older lady that's just who I am I'm into it but she would be a kick-ass Peyton Sawyer she's like a fun really smart like edgy girl and I think she can really handle

the emotional workload that is Peyton and so watch her on the Winchesters on the CW yeah I don't know who oh yeah I was going to say which is a little rogue because it's not my character but I've done a bunch of I am a voter stuff with Noah Centineo, and he is so lovely.

And he just shaved his head, and I was like, oh, my God, he looks like James when he shaved his head in season three. And I think he should play young Nathan. Yeah. Right? Why not? Cool. It's great.

I have... Who? Shailie Woodley for a little H. She's all age. Isn't she our age? She's all rage. Listen, you're going to cast her, then cast me. Paul, who would play, like, Dan Scott?

Like, what, how old were you? You were, like, 36? You're 39? 39, 39. You're 39? I was 39. What, like, 35-year-old man out there would play Dan Scott now? Yeah, because I know all the 39-year-old man, you know.

Yeah, you're a director, you're casting. I actually don't know any. Cast, they're so smart, you cast James. I would cast James. That would be so cool. That's a great kick. Done, cast, done. What about that

Who's that What about Natalie Lynn for you? Oh yeah Oh they're so smart Yeah Natalie She could play Brooke Davis too Yeah she could Yeah I feel like Natalie would play you

And Emily would probably play Yeah yeah I like that I like that Those Lynn girls All right Tori Who would play young Nanny Carrie today God I'm having it such hard

But I just saw that movie Revenge not too long ago So maybe the girl from Riverdale With the brown hair Yeah What's her name? Cammy Yeah

She could play a good villain, I think. Do Revenge was so fun. It was so fun. It was so fun. That's a great question. Thank you. Who's up next? Our next question is from Sarah.

Here, hold on. While we get the question, I want to do mine. Oh, be real. Cutting. Oh, my God. A little, but I like to. It's great. If you don't ask your question, you'll never

interrupt them. I know. I'm on that with literally three of my friends. They're going to be like, get boss. Hi. So I first want to say thank you. Could you guys recognize therapy a lot on the podcast? And as a therapist myself, it's super encouraging and just like validating for what I do on a daily basis. So thank you for that. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Fixing the planet. Thanks. So I have a question specifically for Sophia. Yeah. So on the show, there are a lot of important sibling relationships for Nathan and Lucas, Dan and Keith, Haley, Taylor, and Quinn. And I'm wondering, if they would have had Brooke have a sibling, would you would want them to have a brother or sister?

And who would you have wanted to play them? I mean, it's interesting. We were talking about this a little bit yesterday, because, you know, sometimes on shows like ours, in the beginning, the writers will reference something, and then they think the audience forgot, but nobody forgets. So apparently, Haley's... You guys forget nothing. Nothing. And Haley was supposed to be, what, like one of six kids?

And then suddenly you just had a sister, or no, two sisters. But we saw, to your point, sister relationships and brother relationships. I would have loved to see Brooke Davis have a brother. I would be very curious if having had a male influence in her life since for five years, had no parents, which was super weird, if that might have adjusted the way that she had been taught to look for validation from men. I mean, who knows? This is a hypothetical, obviously.

But I think that that would have been very cool. I think it would have, it would have been fun for me to, like, have a younger brother. Like, if he was two years younger than me, so I could be so annoyed by him, but he could be wise. That would have been nice. And it would have been fun for me and joy, because it would be one more person that we could potentially kiss. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, cast that. Yeah. Who are we kissing? I don't know. Hillary, you and I kissed everybody on the show. I didn't get to kiss anybody except James, which I'm not complaining about, believe me. The one time.

Oh, yeah, Tyler, that's right. It was that one, it was quick. It was quick, though. And, it was like, what am I, Chuck Liver? No, but truly, Brooke and Pain and Mouth got to kiss everybody. So, we should have figured out, like, a month. moment. Haley needed like a rum springa to just like take a year

off of her life and kiss boys. Joy needed that. I mean I wasn't going to say it in front of people, but if you want to call yourself out, I'm here for it. I love that. That's all right, I got it. All right. I did it later. Should we do it now? Yeah. Do you want one now? What? Just a renaissance? It's like a random kiss.

We could plan it. Oh. We'll do more of that later, please. It's a pajama party. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years.

You carry with you a sense of purpose. and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world,

influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why. Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Well, we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacist. Bad faith political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

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Yeah, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi. Hi. I don't want to block anyone. I did. Well, this is my second question to you guys, because I was the one who asked about the

Karen's Cafe menu. Crescents are meant to be eaten. They are. We had croissants. this morning. We sure did. God, they were good. They were great. Paul could tell you plenty about that shooting in Karen's Cafe and all the times that I was like kept eating the props. Every time he was directing. Where's Troy? Sorry, I interrupt you. Go ahead. No, you're fine. Um, so when I was in... Stand up. Okay. I didn't want to walk. I didn't want to walk. There's an aisle. You

learned this. When I went to Wilmington, my favorite one tree hill spot was the bridge and it's because it was very unexpected seeing all the quotes written on that bridge. There were many amazing quotes from the show. My favorite was in my yearbook as like my favorite quote in my yearbook. My sister had in her maid of honor speech. Literally everyone was in tears. Oh, man. And with the bridge being covered in words from the show,

are there any quotes, monologues that resonate with you guys? And either from when you were on the show or even going back and watching everything now what lines monologues yeah you know somebody asked us this uh in our last VIP Q&A um and I still have the same answer I don't remember a lot of them unfortunately and it's been nice to go back and watch the show even though we're only up through season three and so I know that we've heard some that were really beautiful but I didn't write them down and I didn't live with them the way that you guys did because you had it for a week and you thought about it and you wrote it down, you got on chat forums, and you talked about it, you talked

about it with your friends at school, and then you, like, scribbled it into your backpack, and then your notebooks and, like, pass notes, and you use the quotes in the notes and stuff. We just didn't live with it that way, because we had so much influx of scripts coming in that we would read something. Yeah, and we'd learn it, and we'd read something, and be like, oh, that's really nice. That was beautiful. Good job. All right, what's for lunch?

And then it's on to the next thing, and so we missed out on a lot of that stuff, which is why we're so grateful that you keep bringing it back to us, because I feel like I always get surprised when I see a beautiful quote. Sometimes I'm like, I didn't even know I said that. I'm so glad to know now. Yeah, you guys are the keepers, you know. Paul, you directed a lot of really important episodes. Was there ever anything in any of the episodes you directed that stuck with you?

I think I did your proposal, right? On the dock. On the dock. When he went down in his knee, I directed. Oh, Rachel's Cabin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That was beautiful. And I thought that was really important. But I also, I think there was a lot of stuff that was kind of just, like, I mean, Jamie was really important to the show and kind of gets passed over a lot in the conversations. But he was crucial to, I think, that kind of reminding us that these are people that are, you know, they're taking steps and moving forward. I don't know. It's hard because, like she says, it's like you move on in the next, but there was a lot of stuff with, the balance of the show changed after season three. And then season five, it changed again. So it really shifted.

The energy kept shifting on that show. So although Haley and Nathan and Brooke and the multitude of different, you know, loves that were coming in and out, those are sort of balancing each other off too, stability and then looking for love and all the things that happened. So I always saw metaphors through all that stuff for me. Do you know what I mean? Rather than remembering specific quotes, it was more than metaphor of the character. That's the way that my brain works anyway. I don't really remember specifics.

I remember for a big picture. Yeah, on the same way. What about you, Tori? Did you, like... I don't know that Nanny Carey had many great quotes. She was an inspiration. Seriously, a lot of women. Yeah, I think we said this last time.

It was like, I'm your mommy now. Just said. So, yeah, but I don't know that that's very inspirational. What was the most batch-shed thing that you had to say? The most bat-shy-shy-old thing that you had to say. Gosh, I don't even know if it was what I said. It was more what I did, right? Action, speak loud of the words.

I'm your mommy now. Yeah, that had to be probably the most. I mean, who says that to somebody else's kid, right? I mean, let's be real. Talk about therapy. I think she could have used a little bit of therapy. Yeah. I'm so thrilled that that's my legacy.

Yeah. I am. Forever. Yay. No, I think, to your point, it's interesting. to see the evolution of the characters and to know that there were these episodes where they were learning, they were growing.

You know, I loved what Brooke Davis had to say in the time capsule when we watched that episode because she's musing on sexism and inequity and being, and truly calling bullshit on the whole system in high school. I was like, absolutely, teach them young. And then I think there's these sort of pillar moments, you know, not just for our own characters, but for the show.

You know, the idea that, you know, this is the place that will always make us emotional, not just for what it meant in Karen's Cafe and then at Closeover Bros and then at Karen's Cafe again, but for Wilmington kind of being our home, and then us being each other's homes and like always being able to come in and like dive right in, you know,

to the things that are deep and important. There's only one tree hill. Yeah. And it's your home. And it's interesting that there's all this nuance. You know, there's a show and there's 187 episodes of the show. So that's 187 hours.

But I needed to understand why we couldn't remember anything. So I did the math and was like, oh, because to make 187 episodes of television took us, if we average out the math, it took us 35,000 hours to film the show. So, of course we don't remember anything. But then we remember everything. It's like, it's a weird mishmash. And so it's been so special to go back because what we do on the podcast all the time when we're watching. the show before we record the podcast we watch together on Zoom and we'll be like

oh my God this is the episode where that got said. You know and sometimes it's like I said that or oh my God I can't believe Dan Scott said that I totally forgot that part. It's like we're getting the we're getting our memories sharpened again and it's very cool but

in 35,000 hours it's hard to pick what was that speech that Barry gave remember when he went up and he did it once and we were all like holy that's when? Was it at the banquet dinner? Yeah, yeah. That speech was just beautiful. I think that's what it was. Coming up. Mine was really simple. You know, Peyton is brief in ways. She's like pretty to the point. And so the first time your art matters

was a part of our storyline. I was like, okay. Yeah, no, that's a fun line. Like, that's a fun like pickup line. Like, hey, your art matters. But then in season five, when it came back around again when Peyton is like wooing Lucas, I had had my theater buddy that I had done all my training with growing up he died in Iraq and his art mattered

to me and I found out that we had lost him literally the episode where Peyton says to Lucas, your art matters it's what got me here and ever since that day I have such a physical memory of that moment and having to say that

again and you say it the first time and it means nothing. And then you say it again when you've lived a little bit longer and it's got some context and you're like, oh my God. So there was like a fan in France that embroidered it on like a handkerchief for me

and that's hung up in my office now. And I think it's like, you know, it's a nice memory that, yes, that was a fun line, but seriously, like the art that has been manufactured from the show, whether it's the bands that have come on the show, Joy's performances, Sophia's fashion, you know, like all the art that was manufactured because of this family it matters and we don't know the

depths that it matters too but we know because you guys have engaged with us that it matters um so thank you guys for that great thank you what a great question our last question of the night's going to be from zana hi hi zana hi um so I spent six hours today deciding what to ask you guys. And I'm from Boston. And so you guys have had a lot of wonderful musical guests on the show. But if you could have anybody else, who would your dream guest be like a musical guest or a actor?

Somebody who isn't on a show that you would want to be? Who would you choose? dry sand why the hell not listen we never knew who Peyton's grandma was right let's get there I'm in

and then she could mentor Haley oh my gosh sign me up sign me up for Babs all day long yeah I was gonna say Dolly Parton oh yeah let's shoot bake let's shoot Brayle Bay

we want for the moon we need Reba dolly yeah Barbara just give us the icon yeah I think it would have been great to have, like, Kathy Bates just show up in one of my crazy scenes. Oh, my God.

So great pay homage to. She's the nurse. She just hands you a sledgehammer. Oh, God. You're doing it wrong, Carrie. Yes. Polly. Who do you want?

Oh, who? Well, we had Gerald McCraney and Tess Harper. I mean, and we had so many wonderful people. We were really lucky to get some of the, you know, the actress we had. Tom Bosley Tom Bosley Yeah Oh yeah right right right

I directed him too Yeah that was your episode I remember Was that the one also Where he had the I think it was the same episode That Jamie was racing No you made us like race cars

Right Yeah Mouth and Peyton Crazy right There's so many episodes right Isn't that funny I think it would have been nice To have had somebody like

Oh gosh I really do think the idea That Dan and Dolly Parton having an affair would have been that would have been i could see that all day long the tracks oh yeah i'm her sidekick yeah did we ever meet deb's mom right that's why i said it tracks there's a vibe like she is definitely deb and cooper's mom yeah i can't think of anyone else i can't think of anybody else you didn't kiss michael cooper did you or what's his name uh truco like in real life no on the show you kissed everybody i thought uh no that was sophia's territory and i

wasn't going to tread on that. I didn't get to kiss him on the show either. Yeah, but I wasn't going to fuck up again and tell you I liked who you liked. Ah. Lesson learned. Yeah. You can you all give a round of applause for the baby who has not cried the entire show? You sweet, sweet, sweet angel. Oh my God, I just want to squeeze you. Oh, sweet baby. Wow, guys, this has been really special. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O-T-Harendh. Or email

us at Dramaquins at iHeartRadio.com. See you next time. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama queen. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens.

Smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queen. Drama, drama queens, drama queens It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first native comic bookshop.

Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the iHeart, Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make?

Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.