Drama Queens - LIVE IN WASHINGTON DC feat. Lee Norris, Antwon Tanner and Switchfoot
Episode Date: November 25, 2022It’s a packed house in DC as Joy, Hilarie and Sophia welcome close friends and special guests Antwon Tanner, Lee Norris and a performance by Switchfoot! They reminisce about everything from being ...kids, to having kids and always being there for each other in between. Plus, some powerful fan questions…See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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First of all, you don't know me.
We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.
We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl.
Drama queen, cheering for the right team.
Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl.
You could sit with us, girl.
Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama, drama queens.
Please welcome to the stage, your drama queens.
Hillary Burton Morgan, Sophia Bush, and Bethany Joy Lenz.
Oh, hey, D.C.
Wow.
This is exciting.
I like it here.
I'm so happy to be here.
D.C., I wore a power suit just for you.
She sure did.
She's here for business.
This show's actually really, really exciting.
Oh, I might cry.
Oh, I might cry.
Oh, man.
Do you need me to tell a joke or something?
Oh, no.
Listen, listen.
It's been really cool.
We hung out in Boston.
We hung out in New York.
But this is actually the city where we have the most guests that have, like, come to hang out with us.
Like, our loved ones are here.
Joy, your best friend from high school is here?
Jenny, where are you?
Jenny, where are you?
Where are you?
She does.
Everybody's shouting.
Guys, it's so bright.
I love you, Jenny.
We can't see you.
I know.
And then you have best friends here.
Yeah.
My friend Adrian is here.
Where are you?
Adrienne.
Hi, honey.
Hi, cutie.
And then look, where are my Parkview Patriots?
Oh, yeah.
Do I?
Hi!
Oh, I'm going to try.
Oh, my God.
No, listen, you guys, so many important people are here.
important people are here to meet him at night.
My Brooke Davis is here.
Ashley Dawson Hoyt was
captain of the cheerleading squad
and student council president.
And so she's here and she's been drinking with us
backstage, which is good.
She may not be in her seat.
My favorite teacher, Ms. Johnson, is here.
My drama teacher.
A.J. Greeley is here.
Your drama teacher is here.
Oh, my drama teacher's here.
The literal person who made you a drama queen.
Yeah, but she doesn't teach drama anymore.
She sells wine.
Oh, that is.
I got to produce for my husband.
Listen, that's what I did to her.
She was like, I got to get out of this.
I want to be her when I grow up.
Yeah, tell me about it.
So we have, like, such a great crowd tonight,
and we're really excited to tape this podcast with you.
Once a week, we get to be together.
We get to go down memory lane,
and the fact that we get to do that with all of you guys now
is really, really special.
So thank you for being here.
It's so cool.
Hey, guys, can we get on three, like a one, two, three, high drama queens so the podcast can actually hear your voices?
Are you ready?
Ready?
One, two, three.
High drama queen!
Oh my God, I love that so much.
I love D.I.
And how beautiful is this theater?
Danying, this reminds me.
I mean, I wish I had done high school theater in a theater like this, you know?
Yeah, same.
I think everybody does.
That was kind of a thing.
block auditorium.
But you did theater here. You were just telling me
something about you worked here. Yeah, when I
was a kid, I did theater at the Kennedy
Center, and I did stuff at the National
Theater, and we, like, took field trips to Ford's
Theater and stuff. So the D.C. theater
scene is a big deal. And to be
on a stage in D.C. feels
like, we did it.
We really did. We arrived.
I mean, look at this place. We're in, like,
a gilded theater with a chandelier.
We're time traveling.
I really like it.
You guys, first thing, first thing I was told when we walked in the doors tonight was,
and there's a ghost in this place.
And like, you know me.
I was like, what?
You want to be best friends?
Tell me everything.
I want to go on a tour.
So, Lexi, I'm going to hold you to it back there.
But if you feel any ghostly energy, I'm going to need you to tell me about it, okay?
What?
It's not the Winchesters.
I don't have demon hunters here.
I can make a phone call.
So, fantastic.
Okay, so we are on a journey.
It's really nice to have all of our friends from childhood here
because, you know, we went on journeys with them
and now we kind of get to create that in our 40s.
It's a brand new world.
It is a brand new world.
How is our trip today in the RV?
Oh, guys, we, it's actually very funny.
So Hillary's best friend came backstage and was like,
oh, that's not a joke.
You didn't, like, get in an RV and post an Instagram story
and then get on a plane, and we were like,
that's real.
No, we're driving around in an RV.
Hillary's doing a great job, by the way.
We're like rocking in the back.
We were signing lanyards for the VIP today,
and she had to hit the brakes, and I went, oh, no!
And they all just went sliding across the table,
and I was like, it's cool.
I'm going to learn how to do merch in an RV.
It's just my first time.
Yeah, we're rookies, but we're learning.
I know it's bad when Joy comes up and sits right behind the driver,
seat and just puts an arm on me.
And says, do you want anything?
No, I'm fine. I'm fine.
You white knuckling at 10 and 2,
just to make sure. This RV is 30 feet long, you guys,
and she's piloting it like a ball.
She's doing a great job, but there was a couple of times.
I remember I woke up one time because I was sleeping.
I fell asleep in the back and I got up and I was like kind of tumbling my way forward.
And then I heard,
you fuck that asshole
well it turns out nobody on the road
wants to let an RV in front of
them so I've taken to
just rolling the front window down
and kind of and you got to hang out
far enough that you get around the side of it and going
hi hi I'm so sorry we're lost
and I'm like I'm setting feminism back
and I don't care I got to get over we this is our exit
just let me in mister
how long do we think that's going to work for us
That's shtick.
I wonder that all the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we just have to be cute about it.
Oops, mister.
I messed up.
Oh, no.
Well, how many of you are on trips with your friends here tonight?
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
Dave, that's, like, what it's all about.
And so we're pretty picky with our sponsors, and we're really excited that this sponsor came
aboard.
Tell them, tell them what's up.
We are.
Well, it's a two-parter.
Guys, it's a two-parter.
We have a great sponsor with a surprise for you.
And the sponsor also sent us a bit of a surprise,
which is that they gave our resident bartenderess
a different cocktail recipe in every city
because they said, we're not just going to give you one.
So what are you making tonight, Joy?
They know how much I love to drink.
Tonight we've got, okay, it's the cheap Caribbean
is the name of this sponsor,
and we love them because they not only give us alcohol and recipes,
but they're sending.
one of our listeners, maybe one of you guys, on an all-inclusive vacation.
To the Caribbean.
Yeah, so it's kind of exciting.
We know that that might not be as chic as our RV from 2013, but you'll be fine when you're
on the sand with a cocktail in your hand.
Yeah, just don't be surprised if we track you down and just end up in the cabana next to you.
What are you doing here?
What a vacation, too.
They told us we got to give a trip away, and we were like, but do we get to go to?
Yeah.
Oh, no, this is true listener.
That's cool. It's great. We're happy for them.
Yeah. There's got to be a cheap Caribbean RV somewhere.
Exactly. Here's what you need. Look. Who likes rum? Anybody in here?
I got me to hold that. Oh, wow. I've never been much of a rum girl because it's so dangerous.
So we've got, oh, I shouldn't put that there. This is always awkward in a dress low, like trying to pour things low.
Yeah, we should have brought you a bar cart.
I need a bar cart and like an assistant. Oh, I'll be your assistant.
You hold the microphone and I'll hand her things.
Okay, you want me to hold that microphone too?
Did you say handsome assistant?
Yeah.
I can hold you need a handsome assistant?
I need a handsome assistant.
Where's Tim?
Where's Tim?
No, is he?
Where is Tim?
Tim's been running this show for us on the road.
Tim, you're a prince.
The problem is I don't have a shaker.
Oh.
Well, yes, you do.
Yeah, you do.
Guys, we had a cocktail backstage.
I don't know what else to say.
Ice is overrated.
Are you...
It's just water.
Yeah.
Hey, listen.
All right, all right.
I'll do this for real.
So you need rum.
You need an ounce and a half of rum.
I'm just sort of like guessing at this point that feels like about right?
What are measurements?
You know who's not here?
My math teacher.
You're a math teacher?
Okay.
Does that look accurate?
Say when?
Yeah.
Half an ounce of lemon chocolate.
When?
Lemachetto.
Okay.
We got another ounce and a half of watermelon juice.
I didn't know they made watermelon.
I didn't know they did either.
I love that.
God, we're learning so much stuff on this journey together.
A ounce and a half, that's about right.
Gorgeous.
I feel like we're all just loading up our Instacarts for when we get home.
Turns out I need this from the grocery store too.
One ounce of lime juice.
I like lime.
I like lime.
Heavy pour.
And then a half an ounce of simple syrup and you're just going to, you know, like shake it,
Shake it. Shake it, shake it. Shake it, shake it.
Shake it off. Oh, my God.
Isn't there like, there's, there's, there's, there's got to be like an Elvis song that's
shake, shake, shaked, shake, rattle, and roll, something, I don't know.
That is an Elvis song, isn't it?
No. No. No, definitely not.
Shake, rattle and roll. Who sang that? It's like Bill Haley.
Oh, long, long ago. Maybe I've just heard Tyler sing it so many times that I think Elvis
said. Tyler Hilton is Elvis. Because he played Elvis in a movie.
All right, she's shaking. Get crazy, Joy.
Okay.
Oh, yeah. Oh.
Oh, well.
You're welcome, front row.
All right.
Okay.
Oh, the drama queens.
It's like, it's a conservative poor because there's three of us.
Well, here's what I want to do.
We like to share.
Listen, Mommy already drank some tequila backstage, so I'm going to share, okay?
What I want to see right now is an ID.
Who's over 21?
Who's got an idea?
Give some out.
We had so much underage drinking on our show that I need...
Hold on. I got an adult in a letter jacket right here. Come here. Come here. Come here. You got your ID.
Hello. I don't care how old you are. I'm checking IDs. No one in the history of Tree Hill ever did.
Well, she's got a baby. You think that counts? We had babies as teenagers in Tree Hill, too.
Oh my gosh Laura
It is so nice to meet you
Oh yeah let's take a selfie sorry guys
Hold on my drinking buddy nice
Look at these silver foxes
Listen I saw your hair
When did you start growing out your gray hair?
The pandemic
Same girl same
It was the right thing to do because inside
We're always 17
And then and then I moved in with my boyfriend
Now husband with two kids and three kids
I can't
Hold on you have an accent
I do.
You're not from Maryland.
Hold on.
Where are you from?
It's real, I promise.
Hold on a second.
Do we have a bouncer that can get the blue light out
and we can check this thing?
Wait, where are you from?
I'm from Australia.
So, how did you find one tree hill?
It was on in Australia, but then I had to...
We're very popular in Australia, Hillary.
Very popular.
We are.
How come no one's invited me to Australia?
That feels weird.
We have TV
But we also got
At the time we got TV like
a year or two behind
So I had to order them from the US
Online and get them sent
Did you watch them like the first go around
When they first came out?
I did I did
And who is your favorite character
It is Haley
Well fine
You can have Haley's cocktail
You earned it
I'll give you your
ID back. Congratulations.
Thanks to be in our
drinking, buddy.
This is really good.
You win this round, Joy. I'm going to sit.
Yeah, I'm in a baby. I'm going to, this is
Hayley's watermelon dacry from now on.
And just go to Instagram. You're going to find out
the details. I'm going to keep Caribbean trip.
Next level vacation.
It's exciting.
You're welcome. We love contests on
our show. We actually, we did a contest
on the Drama Queen's podcast where
we sent a listener down to Wilming.
and Amanda, who won, did a Zoom with us, and she's here tonight.
Amanda, where are you?
Amanda?
Yeah, go.
Hi.
Hey!
Hold on.
I want to hear how the truth was.
Come here.
Come, come, come.
Come, come.
Let her out.
Let her up here.
Wait for it.
Listen, we're being real comfortable tonight.
I'm going to try not to fall on anybody.
Hi.
Here, come up here.
I don't think there's any.
stairs.
Yeah.
Look at you in your queue.
You're wearing all the merch.
Hi.
Oh my God.
Listen.
You guys, it's so nice to see her off of Zoom.
Hi.
Hi, sweetheart.
Hi, how was your trip?
Wait, seriously, did you have the best time?
Oh my God, it was amazing.
It was 10 out of 10.
It was top 10.
Where, now you took your sister with you?
Yes, I took her with me.
She couldn't be here today.
She has exams for college.
Where did you go? Where was your favorite place in Wilmington?
Okay.
Wilmington was all great.
My favorite place to go, it was probably just the beach.
We did have wine. I had wine.
By the beach, she's not, she's underage.
No, no, you're a sister.
See, we're responsible now that we're grown-ups.
It's Tree Hill, you got a card.
But what we did for anybody who was planning to go,
we actually put like little crowns by all the places that should all suggested.
So if you go, each place is to go.
Each place is like crowned by them already.
Oh, Amanda.
Is there a better person?
No, the answer is no.
I love you.
We're so glad you're here tonight.
You guys, give it up for Amanda.
Everybody clap for Amanda.
Okay, but she's proof.
Enter the contest.
You'll have a great time.
That's so fun.
Yeah, this is our hometown.
I love that she put crowns all over.
I mean, like, Amanda, do you want to do our marketing?
Listen, are we going to get in trouble if you guys start with
They're feeding crowns everywhere.
I mean...
I'm good with it.
I got bail money.
Speaking of high school a little bit, like what...
What were you like in high school?
Really?
Yeah, really?
Really?
Yeah, I was Peyton Sawyer in high school.
Like, I was...
I cheered.
Ashley Dawson made me keep cheerleading, even when darkness entered my life.
And I was just like...
Ugh.
And I did.
student government. My student government sponsor, Bobby Johnson, is here. And that woman
saved my life and made sure I got into college in New York City so that I could, like, move to
New York City. She is my total hero. And so, yeah, I wanted to do student government because I liked
leadership positions. But you also did musical theater. Oh, yeah. It's cool. Yeah. Are we
going to have a sing-off, a dance? Oh, no. No, absolutely not. No. One day, guys, don't get excited.
I love you right back!
What about you?
Were you doing things?
I mean, you were like acting for real in high school.
You were already on TV when you were in high school, weren't you?
I was, yeah, I had been doing, I started, I mean, I started like, I think my first gig, I was seven years old, and I, my first gig.
Yeah, I was like a munchkin in The Wizard of Oz.
Are you serious?
In a local theater production in Texas, and then just kept on, kept on going, you did theater when you were a kid, too.
Yeah, I started in middle.
school. But I didn't do any musicals because no one knew what to do with this. This is a weird
sound to like come out of a 12 year old. Or super hot. You love Duelipa. She's got a deep voice.
I really, really do. And, you know, then I like started watching Demi Moore movies and I was like,
okay, sign me up. Yeah, that's it. I'll take it. Done. I did theater, but not really the singing
part. I just do that in the car. There are parts where you can talk sing.
It's just more of like a, I'm going to talk on beat.
Those are the parts I played.
Little pitchy.
Those are for us.
A little pitchy.
You guys, we had a blast in high school,
and we had an even better time doing it the second time around.
And that is because we were surrounded by the best hometown boys on the planet.
Yes, you do.
Are you guys ready for us to bring out our hometown treeville boys?
I know, I am.
All right, y'all better get loud for Antoine Tanner and Lee Norris.
Oh, my God.
How are you guys, D.C.?
I mean, are you guys okay?
I know.
I'm not okay.
No, me neither.
I had your Blackberry gin backstage.
Yeah, like half the bottle is missing right now.
I gave you guys a full bottle.
What happened?
Hey, sis.
It's a generous poor.
This shit is good.
I'd have had three already.
We were backstage in Twain said,
you know this was grown on the farm.
You can tell.
Yeah, this is good.
I ain't going to lie.
I just like, Antoine came to our dress room.
He's like, you got Sprite?
And I was like, for what?
And he's like, you're gin.
It never occurred to me to put it with Sprite.
Listen to me.
You put this with some Sprite?
This is him.
Give it to me.
Taste.
That's good.
Okay, so Antoine was the one that came on our show.
You were a little bit older than all of us,
and you took us out.
Doesn't he looks up?
Antoine, have you been playing a teenager for 25 years?
You know what?
My daughter told me, my daughter said,
Dad, you're old.
I said, I've been 17 for 17 years.
All your friends like me.
That's right.
What were you like in high school?
I was bad.
I ain't even going to lie.
Well, you know,
I wasn't really bad. I didn't have a girlfriend.
How is that possible?
Because I was too honest.
Oh, oh.
I was telling girls in high school like, listen,
I'm going to cheat on you.
Girls always want honesty, right?
Yeah. No, don't do that, Andrew.
When I go to college, you're not going to be there.
You know how many girls at college? It's 3,000 people at this school.
It's 30,000 at that.
I'm cute
That was pre-internet
You didn't have to tell them
They wouldn't know
But my granny always told me
Tell the truth
Yeah
No matter
It's always been
One of my favorite things about you
No matter how honest it is
Just tell the truth
You're gonna get further
All the men in my life
told me to lie
All the women told me to tell the truth
Well who I'm gonna listen to
Who I'm gonna listen to the women
Isn't he the best
my bad
it's so good
I always felt like I could trust you
with anything because I knew how honest
you are
I remember you call me for like guy advice
before and I'd be like Joy don't do that
do this
and as bad as it may sound
it always helped you win
my granny was a beast
your granny was a beast
That woman was a beast.
Yes, sir.
Well, do you think that's why you get along with women so well
because you had a really powerful woman kind of like pushing you?
Well, I was raised by women.
I weren't raised by no man.
I was raised by my mother, my grandmother, my auntie.
So it was all women.
So I like learn like nurturing stuff and how to do this
and how to change diapers and how to cook
and how to clean up the house and iron your own clothes.
Yeah.
Listen, my daughter is ornery.
And the only person that could rock her to sleep, Antoine Tanner.
I got pictures and videos to prove it.
She couldn't do it.
I was like, give me the baby.
What are you doing?
She was a new mother, too, so I can't blame you, sis.
You're doing it wrong.
You had to pat that butt.
You got to shake and pat that butt.
They're going to go to sleep immediately.
You got to know the rock.
It's so crazy to think about how long we've all known each other
because you are talking about Hills, baby.
And I remember our first week in Wilmington
when we were all still living at the Riverview Suites,
kind of like, we're in this hotel together
and like, where are we?
And how do we find an apartment?
I was like, I just left a dorm.
And I have to find an apartment.
Are they going to let me sign a lease?
And the fire alarm got pulled.
Yes.
And your baby was with you.
My baby.
And wound up in my lap at five in the morning.
out in front of the hotel.
That was so embarrassing.
Oh, my God.
Everybody's like, not dressed.
We don't know each other.
We were like, hey guys.
And how old is he now?
He's 22.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's fine.
Yeah.
It's great.
He was like one.
He was so small.
He snuggled up in her breast.
He was a breast baby.
I don't know why.
He was like.
I mean, I wasn't going to say it, but I was like, do I.
And he was a slight.
I'm going to do this.
The face right in.
And I was like, I guess he's going to sleep.
And Antoine was like, no, he's just got good taste.
I was like, oh.
Okay.
Thank you.
Smart man.
Lee, do you remember filming the pilot?
Because you were the person I was most excited about.
I was a boy meets world kid.
I was a Torpleson's kid.
And I, we went to the table read.
And I didn't know everybody who was cast.
I just showed up and was like, oh, my God.
Hi!
Yes, no, you were so...
I think I said this when I came on your show.
You were so nice to me.
Because I was a fan girl, dude.
And I was just this kid named Mouth.
What's going to happen with this guy?
Thank you.
But, no, to now think back on it,
it just blows my mind, because we were babies.
And now we have babies.
You have a baby.
I have a baby.
He's not a baby.
He's like a kid.
I know, he's in preschool.
He just turned four.
And he learned how to talk back.
Wait, what do you say?
What doesn't he say, Hillary?
It's coming back to haunt me.
My name was mouth, so it's coming back.
But no, he's a sweetheart.
But he just turned four, and we can't keep up with him.
He already chipped his tooth on my watch.
That's awesome.
Well, it's going to fall out, they say.
It's a baby tooth.
Yeah.
Lee, did you start out as a series regular or recurring?
No, I started out as a recurring, yeah.
Okay, and you were living in L.A. at the time?
No, I was in college at Wake Forest University in North Carolina. Go Deeks.
Sports.
I wasn't playing sports. I was watching sports.
But, no, I was in school at Wake Forest and did the pilot and thought I was just maybe going to do one or two.
and yeah, I just kept coming back
and you guys were so great
and I didn't want to leave
and so I was going to go to law school
but it didn't happen.
What were? Yeah.
That's so wild after you having to catch it.
Did you see me as a lawyer?
I can't.
What? Come on.
Wait, what kind of law?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I was thinking like entertainment law
because like my background is an actor
and then...
So not Matt Locke.
Well, I don't know. That sounds cool.
Like, not like solving crimes.
Well, there you go.
Let's do it.
We got a new show.
Who do you think could give us an honorary degree?
Will Wig Forrest give us a law degree?
I've got some pool there, yes.
We can make that happen.
I don't want to, like, go to class.
Like, we just want someone to give it to us.
You know, you growing up in North Carolina,
you had the experience most similar
to what we were depicting on our show.
And so what rang true for you
and what was total bullshit?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, for me, what rang true was just this, that, you know, I mean, I love the O.C. guys. It was a great show. But it just felt like our show had a little bit more heart to it. You know, a single mom. A single mom, right? Raising Lucas and, you know, a character that was, you know, I don't know. He was a high school basketball jock who also was like a literary guy. I don't know. Is that true?
Is that the part that rings falls to you?
Maybe, I don't know.
A jock that reads book.
Pause.
I mean, I was reading poetry, but I wasn't playing basketball.
So I don't know.
Maybe for somebody, I'm sure.
I'm sure there's a Lucas Scott out there.
But I don't know.
I just love the heart of the show.
And like, I would say now going back and watching it as you guys are doing the show,
what's so crazy to me is that I value so much more Moira and Barbara and crack.
Like all of the adults on our show that really grounded it for us.
And, I mean, you guys are doing fantastic,
but I didn't know what the hell that was.
I was just dancing in and out.
We were floating down.
We didn't know what we were doing either.
Well, hey, listen, speaking of Barbara Allen Woods,
we just hung out with her in New York.
Hey, tell Anton what she said.
Guys, we got to do a show with our moms in New York,
so we had Barbara.
We had Daphne.
We asked them what their favorite turning points
for their characters were.
and Barbara said
that once Deb
started making out with skills
she never wanted to go back
she wanted to be bad
bad bad bad bad
she went black and never went back
yes sir
she turned the light off baby
you guys have
such good chemistry
Like, we need you to play a married couple, like, in a show.
We need you to, like, be together.
Man, listen, I say this all the time.
I'm, like, kind of, like, not cocky, but arrogant, but not really.
When we're doing, like, love scenes and stuff like that,
but she was the first woman to ever make me feel like, uh-oh.
Like, I swear to God.
Because she was just like, okay, okay.
And I'm like, yeah, we're going to kill.
kiss, we're gonna be, yeah, it's gonna be mutual, we gonna be,
and she just, like, went all out.
And I was just like, oh, shit, hold up.
Barbara's wild.
Am I supposed to touch you?
She's like, do what you want.
I was like, oh.
It's like 60 people here.
Barbara was like, I'm finally out of those chinos in a polo shirt.
Let's go.
She had me so intimidated.
I was like, uh, hi, Miss Barbara.
How are you?
Did you know that storyline was coming?
No, I did not.
I just read it.
It was like, she's fine.
All right, let me see what's happening.
But when we got on set, it was a whole different ballgame.
I was like, ugh.
Well, wait a second.
Wasn't there also a moment where there was a will we or won't we in the writer's room with skills and Peyton?
Oh, yeah.
I asked about that.
Really?
Yeah.
But they were so scared to go forward.
Remember, I was like, give me some drama.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why, how come my friend get to date to everybody that I'm dating?
Yeah.
I can't date nobody.
Well, we'd already set up the narrative in our town that, like, everybody kissed everybody.
And so when Lucas goes off with Lindsay and it's like clear he's going to stay with her,
it was my understanding that as I wept and you walked me through parks and things and
cheered me up, you were my shoulder to cry on.
I was supposed to hit that on the show for.
Damn, people want to do all.
They were scared.
You know what I'm saying?
They were scared.
Well, and also, I think they knew that if you and I were, like, shooting a lot together,
nothing would get accomplished.
True.
Because Antoine's the one that would call and be like, we're going to sidebar.
Are you in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm rapping in four minutes.
I'll be there.
And so they knew that they couldn't leave us unsupervised.
Yeah, they couldn't.
And also, like, quite frankly, now that I'm hearing all this,
I'm so glad we didn't because I couldn't.
because I couldn't follow Barbara's act.
Like, I'm intimidated.
That's a lot to live up to.
Barbara got that thing.
I know.
I ain't even, man, listen.
Lee, had you had kissing scenes before our show?
Kissing scenes before our show?
Yeah.
No.
No?
But you have plenty of love triangles on the show.
Like, you and Boke and Rachel is a whole thing.
I know.
I know.
He kissed my girlfriend.
He kissed everybody.
I didn't get to kiss that.
Wait, you kissed Barbara?
Well, Barbara kissed me in real life, not on the show.
I'm sorry.
What?
What?
How he did that?
What?
At the charity basketball game, they like brought us out together and she was like, kiss me.
And I was like, no.
And she just dipped me and like, laid it on me.
That's Barbara.
I love Barbara.
I love Barbara.
I love her.
She's the best sense of humor.
so fine. And the older she gets, the better she looks. She's just fine. She's got beautiful
daughters and she just fine. Good Lord. Yeah. And she's funny too, which makes it like
better because you'll tell a joke that's a little bit salty and Barbara will meet you
and beat you. Yeah, she's going. Watch out. Listen, she's single now. Is she? Yep. We all got a
convention next month. I can't promise
that it's going to be all safe.
It could get very dangerous.
Were there a story
that you wanted to see, though, that
you didn't get? Like, you guys felt
like you had a missed opportunity. Everybody knows
I'll be pissed about Uncle Cooper forever.
Forever. Who are you mad about, Lee?
I don't know. I mean, I
always wanted to, like, maybe have met
his mom or his dad. We got to meet his grandfather.
Mouth's grandfather. Remember when
we had that... Yeah, we went go-karty.
sweet storyline, but I...
You never had a mom or dad?
I never had a mom as an orphan.
Add me to the list.
I mean, you didn't have a mom or dad, you know.
You didn't have a mom or daddy.
My mom and dad came on one episode.
Did they...
Remember when Bevin came to the house.
The mom and dad came to the house.
Hey, so I didn't have a barbecue.
All right.
Well, I got a grandfather who had Alzheimer's.
I remember that episode.
I watched that one.
Wait, what happened in that one?
We're not there yet in the podcast.
I'm catching up.
Oh, well, that's one of the ones I watched.
I only watched seven.
Did you and Bevin end up together?
Is that what happened?
I think we did.
Did we?
No?
She was on the finale.
I remember that.
Who do you think
skills end game is?
Yeah, I don't remember.
Yeah, Bevan was on the finale.
But is that who you think
skills is with today?
I think, no, she was with Tim.
Oh.
No, no, she was with Tim,
had a baby with Tim.
What?
They know.
They know better than we do.
What? What did I miss?
Baby, you missed a lot.
He's selling pizza or something.
Right?
He's the Pizza Hut dude.
The entire audience just went like this.
There you go.
Thank you guys.
They're like, now you're catching up, guys.
I watched some of it.
I ain't watch all of it, but I remember that part.
I mean, how many scripts do you think you read, though?
Seven, eight.
Because I was a fan.
I wanted to watch it like you.
I don't want to know what happened.
Like, let me go, ooh.
Damn, what's happening next week?
I wanted to watch it.
I will say that I wish that I'd gotten to do more with you, Joy.
I felt like the River Court-Haley connection,
they could have gone more into that?
There was a lot of space for that.
We never quite got a chance to fill that up.
I know, I wish I had spent more time with the Rivercourt Boys
because I do feel like Haley was on that line
where she was between Lucas and Nathan.
But she had been grown up with Lucas.
She grew up with us, yeah.
all of you guys so well, and I missed that.
I feel like we really should have a lot more ways together.
You weren't on the pilot, though, because I was talking to a different joy.
That's right.
But then after, when I had hair, then I ain't had hair no more, and then it was you.
And I was like, she good.
She's real good.
Yeah, we hit it off right away.
I think, I mean, I always, I always loved the Rivercourt Boys.
I always thought it was so fun to hang with you guys.
We need more.
River Card Boy and Drama Queens, I'm telling you.
I mean, it's trouble.
There you go.
I will say, because we talk about hair a lot on our podcast,
I like knowing that you also mark time by the haircut you had.
It makes me feel a little bit vindicated.
I had hair.
I had a fade.
And it was crazy because the lady who was cutting hair,
it was like some racial stuff going on at the time because she was just like,
I cut black hair.
I cut black hair.
And I was like, I want to fade.
She's like, I cut McCawey.
Fight for hair.
I could cut your hair.
I was like, bet.
Do it.
She fucked my hair up.
Oh, no.
So I had to keep it.
I had to keep it in the pilot.
And I was like, this ain't gonna work
because my line was way back here.
I was like, they gonna see that in two days.
It's just shadow gonna grow in.
At least you didn't have porcupine hair like I did.
Yeah, it was bad.
Yeah, but that went through some hair drama.
That was the thing.
All you boys had that.
All you boys had the wind.
Ha!
Yeah, yeah, that was good.
They used to give us those little sticks with
wax that we were just twirling our hair.
Just twirl, James and Chad, we were just twirled.
That was the look.
And then would you like, I really, do you twist it or does it just do that?
I mean, it was, what didn't we?
Yeah, we twisted it, we waxed it.
It was crazy.
Yeah, but that's how I know what season we're in.
If I'm spiky or I'm.
That's right.
I'm smooth.
I got to stay smooth.
I can't do that.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a massacist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
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Bad faith political warfare and, frankly, bullshit.
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You guys, the early 2000s were at time, but we also had fabulous music.
Yes.
And tonight, we've got some of that fabulous music for you. Joy, tell them what they've won.
Ladies gentlemen, please, please give a huge round of applause for one of my favorite bands, and I'm sure one of yours as well.
Grammy Award winning Switchfoot!
Yeah.
Fumbling his confidence and wondering why the world is past in by,
All right, I want to talk to you guys a little bit
before we start playing music for everybody.
Joy, you're the music guru on the show.
This is so exciting.
Guys, welcome.
Thanks for coming out to D.C.
Hello.
That's a big instrument.
Wow.
Okay, you guys had music in seven episodes of our show,
which is crazy.
It's a lot.
Because there are so many bands out there,
so it's amazing that they just kept coming.
back to you. There was just something that everybody really loved about your music. And I just
want to know a bit about how that came about. Did they just kind of call you and say, hey, we want
to use this song? And then it just blew up and what your thoughts were on that. And I don't know,
just talk a little bit. Yeah. Well, first of all, thanks for having us. Good to see all you.
Yeah. I think every time our songs were ever used in a TV show,
it was always a surprise, you know, and for One Tree Hill, it was an honor, though, I mean,
because you guys always had really great songs, and it felt like you had, you know, some of our
friends, Gavin DeGroa, Jimmy World, people that we really respected. Yeah.
So we thought, man, every time a song was used, it was an honor, for sure.
I just want to thank you because it was the only time that my neighbors thought I had a real job.
They'd be like, we heard,
your song on the show.
You're going to make your house payment.
When I first moved in, I was like 20, 21, bought a house, and my neighbors all were waiting
for, I looked like I was 15, and my neighbors were all waiting for my parents to show up.
You know, like, when are your parents going to move in with you?
So then they were like, hey, hey, we heard your song on the show.
Yes.
So thank you for that.
Yeah, I mean, you guys, so you had this huge hit with a walk to,
with your song in a walk to remember.
And then they used your song for this big epic moment,
which none of us, you know, we've talked about this before
with the Naley moment, the Naley moment.
The Naley moment.
The first kiss between Nathan and Haley,
which none of us really knew was gonna be such a big deal.
I mean, we just shot the scene and like put it on TV
and then all of a sudden the feedback was huge
and that song became this iconic moment in the show
with Dairy to Move.
And then they kept bringing it back.
back in too. So could you tell us a little bit about that song and maybe what you wrote it
about or what the process was there? Yeah so that song I had just it was right before I dropped
out of college and yeah. For you pal, good for you. Us too. I'm not condoning one way or the other.
I know we got like people on both sides of the fence in here, you know. Um, stand school kids.
yeah unless unless
yeah so I remember for that particular
song
I just moved back in with my parents
and moving back in with your parents
when you're at that age
I remember telling my buddy my best friend I said
hey listen if I'm still
23 24 25 I'm reaching that point
and I'm still living at home
you need to like kick me
out because I didn't want to be that guy you know but I was living with my folks
and we recorded the vocal in in one of the downstairs like closet I remember
you know you're just kind of like make and do with what you got so that song for
us yeah it came from nothing and it was a surprise for us that it really caught on
as well it was beautiful you know to think that you can have a feeling a thought and
idea at 3 in the morning, trying to figure out why you're here on the planet, and then
to hear it connect with somebody else and realize that somebody else just felt the same way.
Connected with all of us. Thank you. And now you've got a Christmas album. You guys are
going on tour with your Christmas? We are. I love this so much. Yes. I love Christmas. We've never
done a Christmas tour before, so this is new. We've never had a Christmas album. You've never done
Christmas before. It's weird. That's right.
What?
We've all done
Christmas movies at this point, and so
join us. The water's warm.
We're cool.
Yeah.
We had a lot of fun making it, though.
It was like February
when we were kind of finishing up the record
and we were
talking about what we wanted to put on the cover.
First of all, it's weird to be
continuing Christmas that far into the year,
right? Oh yeah, whenever you record a Christmas
album, it's always like June. Yeah.
And so then we were like, okay, well, I kind of want a Christmas tree on the beach.
You know, that kind of captures us.
Where are we going to get a Christmas tree?
And John comes in the room.
He's like, I still have my Christmas tree.
In February.
The story is, I mean, if my shame is out there for everyone.
You know, like, you take the ornaments off and Christmas is over,
and you have this thing that you don't really want to deal with, but you got to deal with.
It had somehow ended up around the corner.
on my porch and I didn't really have to think about it so I didn't really do anything with it
and it looked kind of nice there you know so you know February rolls around and I'm like
I have the perfect idea for this inanimate dead object on my porch and for the record it was thriving
out there like it was still fully green it was got a real green thumb with dead things that's my
thing it was a sign from the universe well we're so glad you guys are here
Thank you so much for coming, and I'm really looking forward to hearing your music tonight.
Thank you.
Thank you for having us.
Can we play a song for y'all?
You guys played this one walking in.
I feel like we've got to give you a different version of it.
This one, this is one I wrote after dropping out of college.
It goes like this.
This is my Bobbott.
Bill and impersonation right here.
Fumbling his confidence
and wondering why the world is past him by
for more than arguments and fail the turns
to fly high
fly high
we're meant to live
for so much more
but we lost ourselves
somewhere we live inside
somewhere we live inside
we're meant to live
for so much more
we lost ourselves
somewhere we're lost ourselves
Somewhere we live inside
Dreamin'
Dreaming about
And whether my cement
I've got a second try
Maybe we've been living with the eyes half open
Maybe we're bent and broken
We're broken, broken, broken
We're meant to live so much more
Have we lost ourselves
Somewhere we live inside
Somewhere we live inside
We're meant to live so much more
Have we lost ourselves
Somewhere we live inside
We want more than this world
We want more than this world's got to offer
Yeah, we want more than this world's got to offer
Yeah, we were more than the wars
And the wars of our fathers
And everything inside
Screams for second life
Yeah, we remain to live
So much more
If we lost ourselves
We remain to live
So much more
We lost ourselves
We were meant to live so much more
We lost ourselves
We were meant to love
We were meant to love
Thank you very much y'all
I mean, I'm going to be honest, I feel like it is so nerve-wracking to play in front of a room with this much estrogen.
Just going to speak from the heart here.
I mean, because my, the last time I was this nervous was when a true story, maybe 10 years ago, Taylor Swift invited me to come up and sing with her.
And it sounded a lot like that right there.
It is beautiful to be with y'all.
This place is amazing.
I feel like we got to play Derry to Move for y'all as a lot.
Welcome to the planet
Welcome to existence
Welcome to existence
Everyone's here
Everyone's here
And I got an idea
I see one of y'all with your cell phone lights up
D.C., is there any way we can turn these lights off
and you guys light this place up?
Let's try it out.
And everybody's watching you now.
What happens next?
What happens next?
I dare you to love.
I dare you to move
I dare you to let yourself off the floor
I dare you to move
I dare you to move
Like today never happened
To day never happened before
Welcome to the fallout
Welcome to resistance
See the tension is right here
And the tension is right here
Between who you are and who you could be
Yeah, I dare you to live in the way this world spins and how it should be.
Yeah, yeah, I dare you to want, I dare you to walk, black to death yourself out with God.
I dare you to want, black to damn, where I'm going.
Today it never happened
Maybe redemption and a story is to tell
Maybe forgiveness is right where you're about
Where can you run to escape from yourself
Where are you gonna go
Where are you gonna go
D.C., where you're going to go?
Yeah, I dare you to move
I dare you to move, yeah,
like to stay you to lay yourself up off the floor.
Today it never happened
Today it's very much
Thank you so much for having us
Thank you guys so much was that not so emotional
Amazing.
Yes.
Gentlemen, thank you.
Thank you so much.
Everybody make out.
Come on.
DC, you guys are a good audience.
Oh, switch foot, ladies and gentlemen.
We were gonna bring in a rain machine, so you guys got like the full effect.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
It's expensive.
I remember feeling so.
Oh, like, I couldn't believe they put that song to, like, me and James.
Oh, yeah.
I was in.
That blew my mind.
Baby, you're an icon.
Am I wrong?
You are.
Yes, ma'am.
It's also...
It's also...
Partly because of that song.
Yeah.
But it's also crazy, isn't it?
Because when we do the scenes, it's real quiet.
Very quiet.
And there's, like, usually a walkie-talkie.
Somebody's like, and all, we're rolling.
Okay, everybody get ready for take one?
And then it's quiet.
And then there's like a hose.
Yeah.
With holes in it above your head.
It's really loud.
Somebody who's like butt crack is hanging out,
and they're like leaning over a thing
and cranking a wheel.
You know, is it on?
It's too much.
All right, turn it back down.
All right.
The water tank just ran out.
Caught.
And then you watch the episode,
and you're like,
oh my God, this is gorgeous.
I feel very moved to this music.
Am I crying?
What's happening to me?
But also, you know, I always thought about music in that way,
that it could take you back to a place in time
where you were young and carefree
or just like a place that you remember.
I never thought a TV show could do that necessarily
in the way that music does.
And it's been really surprising since we've been on the road
that we've run into so many people
that are attached to One Tree Hill.
And they've introduced their kids to it.
And so thinking of One Tree Hill is like,
a song is kind of how it's made sense in my brain. What was your song that felt like growing up?
My song that felt like growing up. Yeah, like what's the song that takes you back to 17?
Oh my God. I don't, I mean, that, that song just took me back to college and back to Wilmington.
And I felt like I could like see, smell here, Wilmington. And there are songs that, like, I think for me,
I mean, 17 was great, but my best, happiest memories are with you guys when we did the show.
So when I, I'm, no, make me cry.
We're going to tell all your friends from home, you said that.
Every time I talk to you, I cry on FaceTime, and I promise I'm fun.
I like to dance and stuff.
Guys, you want to know what's fun.
Speaking of songs, Lee Norris, and I have a song.
Yeah, you do.
We do.
And the last time we were together in person, we danced for that song on my wedding, and it was dope.
It was sick.
It was pretty dope.
Also, any time I hear I want to dance with somebody by Whitney Houston,
I sent him a video
Every time
What are they screaming?
I can't
We can't sing it
Sing it
I mean Lee do you want to rap
I can't do it justice
I'll just say
Three six nine
We were clubbed
Give it to me shock and to me
Whoa
Hey there it goes
You know I want to dance
With somebody was a song I auditioned for the Mickey Mouse Club
with.
What?
I feel like this
always happens where we tell a story
and the joy is like,
this reminds me of that time
that I was in a car
and I made a million dollars
and I kissed the frog.
And we're like, what?
I'm totally Phoebe.
Go back.
No, I auditioned for the Mickey Mouse Club.
In Dallas, it was the same year
as Brittany and Ryan Gosling
and all those kids got in.
And I was like in the last round
and my song was,
I want to dance with somebody.
Oh, I got in the newspaper.
I had like a...
Sing it!
No!
No, seriously.
That is a shameful thing for me to try and do
because Whitney is just like untouchable.
Just want to do.
But I want to dance with somebody.
Ah.
I want to feel the heat with somebody.
There we go.
Hey, I want to dance with somebody.
With somebody.
With somebody.
Yeah.
Honey.
My life is made.
All I heard was that you were one step away from kissing Ryan Gosling.
Yeah.
Like so close.
Probably.
Yeah, I didn't.
Well, I ended up in a room with a, look.
This is kind of a depressing story, actually.
What's happening?
I was 12.
Like, wait a second, no, no, no.
No, it was like the final round, and I don't know who the guy was.
I just remember going into this.
room that was very small, and this
just older guy in a suit who was
smoking a cigar in this really
small room. Go back to Whitney. Go back to Whitney.
Gross. Go back to Whitney.
Yeah. No, I just
remember going and I read my lines and then
I walked out and I could barely breathe in the room
and I was and I was like, I don't think I want to
do this. I think you won this bad joy. I'm glad I didn't.
Yeah. I remember finding out that
Antoine's favorite singer was Phil Collins.
Love him. Yes, that's right.
Love him today.
Yes.
Yeah.
I love Phil Collins.
I probably was one of the only black people that had front road tickets for years.
And I'm sure he noticed me.
It was like, he here again?
I went by myself to the last one at the Staples Center that he had.
And he had this last tour because he said he was talking to his kids and he was telling his kids, listen, I'm really a superstar.
And his kids are like, Dad, shut the hell up.
You ain't no superstar.
You just dad.
And he was like, no, I have fans.
They're like, yeah, all right, because his kids never knew that he sang like that.
So he was like, I'm going back on tour to prove to you.
His tour sold out so fast.
It's a redemption tour.
I said, baby, do you want to go?
She's like, no, I don't want to go.
I'm going by my, I paid $1,500 for my seat.
I was in the third row.
Stop.
I went by myself.
We would have gone with you.
To the Staples Center.
And he looked, and I was like, yeah, he knows me.
It's me.
Been here for 20 years, baby.
What's your favorite song?
Well, he has so many.
I like, in the air tonight, of course, that's...
Yeah.
But I like, we wait and we wonder.
Oh, my God, that song's so dope.
What about, like, Tarzan?
Tarzan is cool, but it was more commercial.
I like the fill.
You like the gritty shit.
Yeah, I like the feel.
Give me the feel.
It's bad.
What about, like Peter Gabriel?
Do you like him?
I like Peter Gabriel.
Okay, all right.
I like a lot of white songs.
My friends be looking at me for me,
You would play emo music on set.
I'd be like, old play would be coming out of the trail.
Guys, I need y'all to know that when the five of us were up here in our feelings,
dancing to our friends, Twan leans into my ear and goes,
I f*** with Switchfoot.
I do.
Like, yeah, 100%.
Yeah, I f*** with them.
Yeah, me too.
My home boys would be like, what the hell are you listening to it?
I'd be like a little baby and Pock and Biggie.
I like all them too, but I f*** with Switchfoot.
Just keep it a honey
That's what they do
Antoine
We're going to open it up for questions
From the audience
Oh Lord
We have our first question from Katie
Hey
Hi Katie
Where are you?
Hi I'm over here
I'm in the corner
To your right
We really can't see
Over there
Oh hey
Hi
You probably can't say
Like middle
But I just want to say
Thank you so much
You guys got me through
my junior, junior high school, high school, college.
And then the pandemic hit, and there was a lot of uncertainty.
And so I needed a comfort show, so I turned to you guys.
And not only when I turned to you guys, my husband turned to you guys too.
So my husband Fabian, I would have it on and be like,
can we just watch one more episode before we go to bed?
So 3 a.m., we're going to bed.
We would watch another episode, and we had just gotten married maybe three months
before the pandemic hit.
So I was like fresh and new.
So talk about Pre-Kana.
We got it.
Beautiful.
So we just want to say thank you so much.
Not really a question.
Thank you.
Much of a thank you for getting me through
those challenging times as a younger kid.
And then even now as a 31-year-old adult,
I am so grateful for you guys
and what the message brings.
So thank you.
So as a thank you,
we brought some shots up for you guys to have
as just a little bit of a thank you for all of you.
What?
You got a shot?
We have the best things.
I'm already drunk.
What is this?
Well, friends.
This just turned into the late show.
Hillary Black,
and a is about to get fun.
We know 10 already.
Hey, listen, here's to the drama queens
and their kings and their River Corps boys
and all their friends.
Thank you guys.
Yes, Lord.
Okay.
We're doing this?
Oh, my God, we are.
Is this Patron?
We're practiced.
Yeah, it's Petron.
I drink Petron.
You're the last one. Go.
Damn, I drank some of that gin.
I'd have three and I.
You gotta slow down.
I only ate some peanuts.
I took half of my shot.
I'm saving the rest for the after show.
I'm gonna put the lime in it now, though, you know?
We're gonna be friends now, ma'am.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That was so nice.
Where's our next question coming from?
We have our next question from Gabby.
Hi, sorry.
I don't have a shot for you all.
That's okay.
Good.
We don't have to be bright.
We have to walk out here, you know?
It's for the best.
Hi.
Hi.
So I think I know Sophia's answer to this question, but I wanted to know what storyline you all wish your character would have had.
Get it out of your system.
I mean, okay, there's one that's obvious.
We just watched the episode.
I'm pissed about it.
But, like, really top top, why is Brooke Davis not married to Senator McFadden?
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn.
Do you know what I mean?
Brooke should have let me brook her.
I ain't going to lie.
What y'all think?
She danced like a black girl.
She could have came home.
Honestly, when Lucas cheated with Peyton,
Brooke should have been like,
I got some revenge for you, bro.
Chocolatte.
That would have been fun.
You want some mocha?
And see, then I wouldn't have had to follow
in Barbara's footsteps either,
so it would have been fine.
I ain't going to lie, Barbara top tier.
Top tier
It's a lot to keep up with her
It's a lot
I'm gonna just keep it one hundred
God
I can't wait to send her the tapes of this show
She's gonna love this twad
The barb, she knows she my baby
She talked about you a lot
She knows that
She knows what it is
By the way did you notice
That they're dressed the same
Oh my God
You guys are in the same seat
Their outfits are coordinated
You're very
You know like this
My granny told me this
She said
every woman likes chocolate at least once a month.
Am I lie?
They crave chocolate once a month.
Antoine, you need to set up an Instagram account just for videos of your grandma.
Like all those videos that you send me.
She was tough.
They like chocolate once a month.
I know that.
I got daughters.
They'd be like, Dad, oh my God, it's Shark Week.
I want a heaf bar or snicker or something.
I'd be like, what the hell?
I'm a dad.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to arc week.
Joy, what did your character miss out on?
Man, I think I'm terrible.
Haley missed out on just like being really irresponsible for a while.
She should have hung out with skills.
She had skills, should have, yeah, for sure.
No, I think it would have been fun.
I don't know when it would have worked out.
Like, maybe Nathan and Haley like split up and that, but for real, don't hate me.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Temporary.
They're going to revolt.
They're going to throw things out.
Back religious.
Give them a season or two, you know, halfway through.
To grow.
To find their way back to each other.
And then you get to go through the whole experience of them falling in love all over.
And you could play Switchfoot a second time.
See what I'm saying?
Literally shaking their head, no.
Major mixed reviews on that.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry I'm an actress and I want to do a different thing.
Man, they should have let skills take them to the ghetto.
I'm sorry.
Did you miss?
He lived.
on the other side of the river court already
come to the hood. We never saw where
Skills lived at. Yeah, what's
that about? He didn't live on the beach.
Maybe he is, though. What if Skills surfs and we just don't know?
Black people don't go to the beach. That's not true.
Antoine, you did the episode with Bevan where we went to the cheer
competition and you pretended you couldn't swim
in a pool. Good memory. Yeah. With no sharks.
Is that the boundary?
ever heard of a black shark attack ever.
And I watch National Discovery.
That's my shit.
I watch all that naked and afraid.
Naked and Afraid.
That's what I miss.
Peyton should have had her Naked and Afraid chapter,
where she just, like, made poor choices.
I would love to have seen Peyton been like,
you know what?
I'm just going to go on Naked and Afraid.
Yeah.
It's something irrational.
Wild Alaska.
Just something dumb.
You just go have to build your own shelter.
I feel like shows like that kind of preyed on people.
that were already a little like,
I've been shot and, like, my mom's died, and I'm a mess,
so I should go be cathartic on an island.
Like, Peyton definitely would have done a reality television show.
I would have loved to see that, like, the castaway version of Peyton's life.
Yeah, yeah.
Wilson!
Sophia's just been talking about Love Island on our RV ride.
Love Island.
UK.
Like...
Love Island, UK, yes.
Love Island, UK.
Can Peyton go on Love Island, UK?
If Payton goes on Love Island, UK,
Brooke's coming to be her stylist.
Because I'm going.
Done.
That was a great question.
Wait, Lee, did you get a storyline?
What did you?
Well, I had sort of said, like, I wish we'd done more together.
But now that I heard soaps, I mean,
Mouth and Brooke, there was a moment where I was hopeful.
I thought maybe.
But you know what I will say?
It's tricky because I thought our storylines were so great,
and they were characters that really saw each other.
And I also love that we modeled a really healthy, like, supportive, loving, platonic friendship.
Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, because we did that for each other, you know?
You guys had such good chemistry.
Yeah.
We did.
And I loved that he, because they kept it friends and real, he never had, they never had to say goodbye to each other.
They're always going to be.
Man, they should have let them get some.
They should have let them get some.
I ain't going to lie.
They should have let you get some.
One time.
What time.
They gotta look out for the little guy.
Oh, my.
Alright, next question.
What's up?
Our last question is from Andrea.
Hi, Andrea.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
Really quick, such a small world,
my best friend actually babysits.
Hillary, your best friend, Ashley's kids.
Shut up!
Funny!
Well, listen, where was she tonight?
Because Ashley's husband had to go pick up the kids.
Yeah, her kids didn't play date.
We had a whole conversation about it.
You tell Ashley Ashley.
that I said, what's up, and to take care of my nieces.
Well, my question is, from what you guys remember,
what was your all-time favorite episode to shoot?
Ooh, Honeygrove was naughty, you got.
Honeygrove was it.
Need help, send ass.
Lee, you weren't there, huh?
That's why you went to Honeygrove to get you.
Yeah, you weren't near at all.
I said need help send ass.
I didn't write it.
You needed ass.
You needed ass.
I know you needed ass.
I understood the text well.
I was like, he need ass.
We got to go get them.
Honeygrove was fun, but I had that giant pregnancy pat on.
It was like, it was just hot and, you know.
Those things are so itchy.
They are.
They're not great.
It wasn't great.
I guess I was thinking more like behind the scenes.
Like, some man taught me to line dance in a bar in Honeygrove, and I thought it was awesome.
Yeah.
Yes, that nice sis was off the chain.
15 was the new third.
and honeygrove.
Honeygrove.
That night was experienced.
So many kids trying to sneak into a bar and we're like,
please, please, please, please, no.
Please, please, we cannot be responsible for this.
However, if you want to line dance, here we are.
And I like being on field trips.
Like we went to Charlotte.
We went to Myrtle Beach.
Where else did we go?
You guys went to cool places after I left.
We went to Raleigh, too.
We went to Raleigh.
The State Championship.
Park City.
Oh, yeah.
State Championship was one of my first.
favorite episode? I think my absolute
favorite was the 40s episode. I know
that was, I had so much fun.
I know it was like a random, and you guys
were all probably like, what the hell is this?
Why are we watching this? Oh, was there when I was a
piano dude? Yeah. I didn't know who
I was playing. I was like, who the hell is this dude?
A little.
I didn't know. That was the first time I had to wear a wig
for like days.
And I was like, miserable. This is so
itchy. I was miserable.
Well, I had to hang off a bridge.
Oh, yeah, you did. I did. I got a
pushed off a bridge by yeah that's right and there was a real bridge and real water with real
alligators in it Lee I don't like it did they have a sniper I didn't like it either did they have a
sniper for you what's that did they have a sniper for you a sniper yeah they have gator snipers
no I think they save those for you guys James and Tyler got the gator snipers yeah when they had to
jump off the Henrietta when it was a casino boat oh right yeah I love that episode where we were all
in the old house for graduation.
Yeah.
That kind of felt like,
that was actually in Wilmington,
but it still sort of felt like camp
because it was like a lot of late night.
And we were, I think it was graduation, right?
We were graduating.
And that house was about to be torn down.
That's right.
So they said to the producers,
you know, you're going to throw this big end of high school party.
I really wanted to know what their kids did
because they were like, we know what happens there.
If you want to like graffiti the walls or punch holes in them,
go for it.
We're about to rip the house down.
And we were like, are your kids in jail or what?
Like, what?
But we did.
We wound up.
And we, like, we wrote, like, messages in the graffiti.
So if you go back and watch it, like, we have, like, personal messages sort of.
There's little insight jokes in there.
Wait, hold on.
Is that where I sang while I was a spice girl?
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
Hey, it's some nice condos on that property now, though.
Yeah, there are.
They're off.
That's real bad.
That's why the kids were like, graffiti, what you want.
We're tearing it down.
We're making billions.
two-bear own kind of now that's nice done um of all the locations i really did love that one before we sign off
what was your favorite location rivercourt boy um uh river court yes i was going to say trick but river
court sitting on the river court looking back across the river at wilmington lit up watching where we all
grew up and lived our lives yep pretty special
What about you, Tom?
But cold.
But cold.
Uh-oh.
I dropped something.
I got you, boo.
No, no, Tripp.
I'm going to drink that, too.
Okay.
Now, I like the River Court, because I stayed right there across from the River Court at the Riverview.
I never moved nowhere else.
I didn't want to move nowhere else.
It was, like, beautiful.
Because I got to see the Coast Guard.
I got to see the people swimming.
I got to see the dolphins when they came in in the morning.
When we weren't filming, and then when we were filming.
And then when we were filming, I was like,
oh, shit, this is kind of cool.
And remember the dude Timmy,
they used to eat all the crabs
that come up on the river?
Yeah, that was weird.
What? Tim, Timney.
Timmy, Timmy.
Oh, Timney.
He used to eat all the crabs.
He'd be like, it's like sushi.
He was like, oh, shh.
He ate crabs out the water.
Yeah, we had a crew member who was an outdoorsman
and would just like pick up snapping turtles
and crabs and eat them on set.
He'd also bring us honey to work
and is probably the reason.
and I'm a beekeeper now.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was naked and afraid
before naked and afraid.
That's true, that's true.
Peyton should have ended up
with Tim McKinney.
Yeah, Timmy.
I like Tim.
You guys, we normally only do
an hour show
and so we went over on this show
because we just have had
so much fun with you
as an audience.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, T.
Honestly.
It's so magical for us.
You guys showed up,
and so we appreciate you.
Come visit us down in Wilmington
when we're there.
Come hang out with us
on the podcast.
send all your friends to get the live stream. And just for you guys, we signed a whole bunch
of posters that we have with merch. We heard you guys wanted posters. So we printed them today.
Today. Who did that for us? Joy did. No, but a shop here. What's, what's his name? Yeah, I don't
have my phone. Dang it. Alex, it's same day printing in DC. We'll tweet about it. We got so many
DMs from people. Thank you. We love you guys. Hi. We got so many DMs from people saying that they
wanted signed posters. And while Hilary was driving the RV today and I was trying not to lose
your lanyards, Joy goes, I'll handle it. And five minutes later, we had like 400 posters printed
and we sign them in the dressing room for you. So we hope we've made you happy tonight.
Thank you guys. All right, we're going to send you out with the song of our trip. Let's cuff it,
friends. Hey.
I feel like falling in love.
So that I'm fucking something I need to drink in my cup.
Hey.
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