Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (Part 10)
Episode Date: September 30, 2022Sophia and Hilarie take on the latest installment of your fan questions! Why did Lucas have the Scott last name? What advice would they, as adults, give their characters? And, the latest on some fel...low OTH actors and which ones they long to reunite with...and what they want to do with them! It’s a Drama Queens truth session.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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First of all, you don't know me.
We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.
We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl.
Drama girl.
Cheering for the right team.
Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl.
You could sit with us, girl.
Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.
Oh, I'm excited. We have another Q&A.
For our pals listening at home or on your commute or whatever you're doing,
our third little sister, Joy, is actually picking up Sweet Maria from camp.
And so she's commuting and the two of us are going to answer some questions.
Are you ready?
I'm ready for us.
I'm always ready.
I really like kind of getting this feedback from the fans.
Because I don't know
When I think back on our years
Of doing the show
I just think about three things
It's usually like Blue Post
And
And staying up late
And hanging out in that trick parking lot
So these guys jog a lot of memories
Thank you guys
What I also like about
Getting questions from y'all at home
Is that
We don't realize
What seems obvious to us
Like if we know
So much that we forget what we know
And so sometimes we just
assume, you know, that something is obvious or that it's, you know, maybe it was on the show,
maybe it wasn't. We can't remember. Weirdly, we remember everything and nothing. And so the questions
that you guys, the questions you guys sent us, like, for me, they really illuminate where the gaps
are. Yeah, well, here's a big huge, no-dun question. Brittany wants to know, do you know why
Karen chose to give Lucas the Scott last name instead of her own name Roe, this troubles me.
Mm-hmm.
Me too.
Because by the time Lucas was born, Deb was already, what, three months pregnant, at least two or three months pregnant with Nathan, which would have trickled back to Karen.
I mean, Keith would have told her, like, hey, Danny's knocked up some girl at college.
And he's going to marry her.
Yeah.
But you know what it is?
These are those moments where at least as an actor, I look at it and I go, because drama.
The writers made that decision because it's much more dramatic to have Lucas Scott and Nathan Scott going to Tree Hill High than Lucas Row and Nathan Scott going to Tree Hill High.
I want you to put that on a T-shirt because drama.
Because drama.
Yeah.
Perfect. Also, it's really sad.
It's fucking sad that, like, Karen, who we know is this super strong girl was potentially holding out hope that Dan would be a part of Lucas's life.
Like, everything we know now is so gross.
But, you know, it's what it is.
What else do we got?
Who's next up?
Oh, I like this.
Kim asks, you've talked about how you wish there was a school counselor on the show.
If you could go back and be that counselor, what advice would you have given to each of your
characters or another character if you'd rather choose that? I'm a school counselor, so I may
steal some of your advice. Oh my God, now I suddenly feel so. Yeah, pressure.
I'm like, I was going to say something really sassy, but now I feel like I need to pontificate.
Yeah, get serious, man. Here's the thing. I would never put myself in a position to be a counselor.
I'd like to, yes, and this question by asking, like, if not us, who would you have cast as our school counselor?
Yeah.
Because we had a really good actress play our school counselor, but we should have had somebody long term.
Yeah, God, I liked her so much.
I don't know why I just had this thought, but Best Armstrong popped into my head.
There's a part of me that thinks, like, oh, Haley's mom would have been the next.
school counselor.
And then it's like, of course, Haley would be a tutor.
Of course.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I feel like that would have been so cool and would have tracked for
Haley's experience.
Well, when I was growing up, everybody's parents worked at the school.
It was like my mom was a school bus driver in middle school.
My friend Maureen's mom was the substitute teacher.
You know, like everybody's parents were involved with the school.
We should have had more of that.
Instead, we just have Dan lurking around corners.
You know what would have been so cool?
What?
And I know you've loved her.
I like cool things.
Oh, I think actually the coolest, like, stunt casting we could have done,
but that would have been really profound for us.
Imagine if we brought Tiffany Fuss in.
Like, the queen of Saved by the Bell to be the one steering all of us kids.
Like, she helped you so much.
Oh, my God.
After you left the show.
Like, I bet she would have helped us really topple some.
and patriarchy in Tree Hill.
And she would have been so rad behind the camera.
Like, she would have been like, she would have been like, why are you wearing that?
Right?
Like, who talked you into this?
You don't want to be doing this.
Yeah.
She's so cool.
You're spot on.
The advice.
Like Kapowski as our counselor, I would die.
I mean, can we go back?
Can we go back and have a redo?
Do we have her?
Yeah, the hot counselor.
She's so fucking cool.
the advice that you would give brook what would what would you tell brook oh man i i would have loved
for someone in a trusted position you know a mentor to her to help her expand her purview outside
of the high school to just show her a little more of the world to say you know this isn't it you don't
need to be picked by the boy here. You don't need to have this be your whole world. What would
you be capable of if you were looking at a larger slice of life? And I honestly, I mean,
I wish that's the advice somebody had given to us when we were 22. Moira Kelly did tell me that.
She was like, run, get out. Yeah, but that's when we were like 26 and we'd already
Is that the advice I wanted as a teenager? Run. I mean, I did that. I did that. I just recently had a conversation with a friend of mine who's in their early 20s and they are going through it. I mean, she's hard. And my advice was have fun. Like you have the whole rest of your life to do the therapy.
And to think about this and to sort it out, but right now in your 20s, in this chunk of time, and that also goes for teenagers in that chapter, which is different than your 20s, but also like a significant chapter, prioritize pleasure and fun and, like, being irreverent and irresponsible.
And Peyton didn't really do a lot of that. So when she does it, it's really fun to watch because it's like, oh, my God, she's being such a little goober.
but it's rare so prioritize pleasure i'm going to put that on my t-shirt sophia i'm like i'm
going to write it down do it that's mom's advice you got the whole rest of your life to sort your
shit out um yeah to take a little bit of the pressure off i mean i remember
clue into some of the mistakes i've made i remember at that age literally being like oh god like
if I've kissed a boy he has to be my boyfriend like if I truly like winding up dealing with a
human for years because I thought that was required no you know I think to to let young people
take the pressure off and just be like it's okay to change your mind it's okay to give something a shot
and go not for me it's oh that was a learning experience yeah yeah hello no one ever
told us that was all right?
No, y'all should be out there collecting learning experiences.
They're not failures.
They're just learning opportunities.
Like Girl Scout patches.
If we collected boys like Girl Scout patches.
That's twisted.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, that's a healthy belt.
What do they call to Girl Scouts?
What are those sash?
Is it a sash?
It's not a belt.
Yeah.
Okay. All right. I'm going to make you. I'm going to make you a sash. I'm definitely making you a sash.
Oh, I can't wait. I want to make one for you.
Okay. Trouble.
It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.
It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred
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other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance
of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions
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Rachel wants to know how much money do you think Peyton spent a week on candles. She has so many
candles she has lit in so many of her scenes. Well, Rachel, before the advent of social media
and internet shopping.
We had to leave our house to spend our money.
And going to buy a record and a candle was kind of it.
Like, that's a sign of the times.
That's all we had.
Do you remember going to witch shops and like buying incense and stuff
and thinking like, oh, I'm so edgy, I'm so dark?
Yeah, I do.
It's a little embarrassing, but I'm still into it.
incense and witch shop.
Well, that's it.
That's the stuff that we send each other.
You go, you want a candle?
You want this.
I got you a deck of cards.
Okay, so if you had to make a scented candle for Brooke, what would Brooke's scent be?
Oh, man.
Like, season one, Brooke would be like vanilla and glitter, like a stripper.
But later seasons, Brooke would be complex and probably have, like, leather and oud.
Oud.
And I don't know
What are the smells I like?
It's interesting what just came to mind
I'm like, I'm starting to think about the smells of Wilmington
Like magnolia and azalea and like
I'd love if we could have made candles that smelled like
Yeah
That place
You've always struck me as like a Gardini lady
I love Gardinias
I know
Yeah you have you have Gardena energy
Oh thank you
I feel like Peyton's candle.
What's Peyton?
I mean, I feel like Peyton might be a secret petulie freak.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you know how people make fun of patchouly?
And it's like, oh, you hippie, whatever.
I feel like Peyton has a secret comfort.
And I say this because my kids preschool,
they make everything smell like petulie.
So your child comes home smelling like that.
And it's a sensory thing they do on purpose
So that when they smell that
They know it's like safe and comfortable
So I will light incense in the house sometimes
And Gus, who's 12, will be like,
Smells like preschool mom
And I'm like, it's like a comfort thing.
Yeah, I love that.
It is really incredible what
What kind of visceral memory scent can give you?
You know, like when we watch Storm episodes of the show
And all of us are like, oh, the smell of the sidewalks in the rain.
Like, we know it.
It smells the way like a coin tastes.
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Oh, my God.
In my bones, I feel that.
I want more of that.
I want a candle that smells like that.
Well, Grace Holcomb, who played baby Jenny, was so cute during the pandemic.
She started selling candles, baby Grace, or baby G candles.
and she was like donating money to charity
and she's just such a good egg, that kid.
Sweet angel.
Yeah, we love her.
So if you're going to buy candles,
buy them from her next time she's got her little pop-up.
Buy them from our sweet co-star.
Yeah, ma'am.
Ooh, and on the subject of co-stars, Annie says if you could work with any co-star
besides each other.
You know my answer.
Any co-star besides each other again, who'd you want to work with?
Ooh.
That's hard.
Yeah.
So many people.
I got to do a lot.
of this in producing those Christmas movies, because it was basically like, who wants to party?
You know?
I know.
The one person I haven't gotten to reunite with is Cullen Moss.
And I love watching him on righteous gemstones, on Outer Banks.
He's all over.
He just did the staircase.
You guys don't understand, because he was just playing junk on our show, and they would throw him, like, goofy lines here and there.
He's an amazing actor.
And as we get older, he's only getting, like, better and better and better.
And, like, really growing into that gravelly Southern character actor vibe.
I would love to work with him again.
I would, too.
That would be so cool.
It's interesting.
He always comes to mind for me.
All I want to do is go make a fun movie with Lee Norris.
I know.
And I just crossed one off the bucket list because, you know, we've just,
talk so much about how we'd love to work with Greenberg.
And I just went and did his movie.
How was that?
I did Junction with him.
And, you know, for our friends at home, Brian Greenberg, who played Jake Gigalski, wrote
this beautiful movie called Junction.
It's a heartbreaker.
It's about the opioid epidemic.
It's hopeful.
It's sad.
It's truthful.
It's like all the things.
And I played his wife.
That's fun.
I know.
It really was fun.
And it was the.
It was just like such a beautiful experience.
And there was something so special that happened because, you know, sometimes you get a scene on its feet and it needs to be different than it was on paper.
Yeah.
And it was a big, it was really surreal, like in a gym, basketball game, like flashbacky to our show, although obviously completely different.
And I think our simpatico as friends enabled us to immediately drop into something.
messing around with the scene and we both realized what it needed and on the spot we reordered all
the dialogue like we just rewrote the whole thing together and like to make it work for the blocking
and the thing and the cutaway and the whatever and it was so good and he texted me like a week
later and was like I'm watching the basketball scene I'm crying and I was like we did it
we did it we made a family we made a family and it still works and like it was so
special to have that experience of trusting your scene partner so much that you could dive into
something completely unknown together. And I think that kind of shorthand is what all of us
will always have with each other. And it was very cool. Oh my God. Listen, Buckley and I did a Christmas
movie together. And our director was like, she was just like, are you two dating in real life? And I'm like,
No, I'm married with kids to other people.
And he is engaged.
No, actually, he had just gotten married to Jenny.
I was like, so we're both married.
And she's like, but you two, like, you guys get along.
And I'm like, yeah, because we're part of the same club.
Like, once you go through our club, you're bound for life.
That's it.
Yeah.
We're stuck.
Oh.
I love it.
We really lucked out.
We have some really solid people that we get to bounce around with.
and we've gotten to like travel the world with each other
and talk shit in hotel rooms late at night
that's really how you connect
it really is
it's late night hey go to the hotel bar
you get a margarita you order a pizza
yeah from the restaurant down the street
we shut down we shut down the hotel
in Wilmington they were like we've ordered you pizza
we anticipate like you guys being here for a while
we feel that you're not leaving but also we need
you to eat more food because it is late and you've had a lot to drink.
We're worried about you guys.
I love that.
So Julie wants to know who was your favorite villain on the show.
Mm.
Dun dun dun dun dun.
Matt Barr.
Bing Bing, Bing.
Oh, Matt Barr.
I hate that Matt Barr plays like a sexual predator and like a super creep because it would have been great to have a redemption arc for.
him so we could have kept him around because he's the loveliest.
Like, oh, that's someone who I wish we'd gotten to work with again on something different.
Oh my God. I didn't, I don't think I ever told you this. Did I tell you about when I ran into
him early pandemic days? No. Oh my God. I was at the grocery store. Like gloves, mask, all the
stuff. And I'm talking to my girlfriend, Sam, who I was in my little pod with. Yeah. And,
I mean, this is early, early days.
Yeah.
And I hear Sophia, and I turn around, and there is this tall,
Adonis.
Gorgeous, like Chris Hemsworth look alike in a tank top and shorts, ripped, tan.
I just was like, what, who is this person?
And he pulls his mask down, and it's Matt Barr.
And we just started, like, screaming in the grocery store,
which really was a terrible choice, because it was also in the moment where, like,
all the shelves were,
because everyone was like hoarding the frozen vegetables so people like thought we were getting in a fight
and then we were like no no no no happy screams happy screams we're just so happy and we stood there
chatting and he is just a dream boat it was so fun such an angel that one yeah it's so weird how
they always cast people younger than us to play older than us like tyler was supposed to be
older than us matt was supposed to be older than us and instead they show up and they're like
such cutie pies.
I know.
It was also weird.
It's striking me as you're saying this,
that they would often cast the nicest people as the most terrible characters.
Like, it's an interesting choice.
I don't know what that's all about.
Give them their Emmys.
Give them.
Give them their flowers.
Sweet.
All right.
Well, this was fun.
You guys keep sending questions.
I really, I just enjoy an opportunity to talk about Matt Barr and Greenberg and we're just talking about all the cute boys that we were.
Does it all go back to the Girl Scout Sash?
I mean, yeah.
Put them on there.
Love them.
Put them on there.
All right.
You guys are the best.
I love you.
Love you.
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We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.
We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl, cheering for the right team.
Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl.
You could sit with us, girl.
Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.
It may look different, but native culture is alive.
My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop.
That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop.
Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges.
Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Thank you.