Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (Part 13)

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

Find a bottle of wine that pairs well with fan Q&A and pour yourself a glass! The Drama Queens are spilling everything BUT wine as they share the secret to long-lasting friendships, parenting, a major plot line of OTH that amazingly flew under the radar. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Drama queen cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, everybody.

I feel like there's a song in there somewhere. Yeah, sing it. Welcome back. We are into a Q&A episode for you guys, super stoked. We have some really fun fan questions. All right, let's get into it. I like this first one. Wait, wait, before you ask a question,

no, I have a question for you because you just got my brain going. Can you take that hey, hey moment you just had and like maybe take it into the studio with your band and make something for us? Yeah. Yeah, we just need to loop it. We'll just get it on a... Put it on a rhythm and loop it.

I'm like, you're doing this big band project. Like, can we make requests? Is that like when you make a request to a DJ? Do not be surprised when I send you a country song with, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, somewhere in the background. Who was the singer that just sampled the Muppets? It's all my kids listen to. What?

Wait, really? Yeah, it's like, what is her name? Ficka Twigs? Is that how you say it? F-K-A place. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, she's got this, like, Oh, my God.

Did not do it for you, Kermie. And my kids are singing it. And I'm like, are you Miss Piggy right now? Yeah, Joy, sample this. That's like the Muppets. I'll be your Muppet. Yeah, why not? Well, especially if I get somebody who does a Muppet voice to maybe do it in the background.

Yeah. You get like a Kermit, hey, hey, hey. We're really off the rails now, guys. We've really gone and taken a left, but I like it. a twig. All right. Take it away with the first question

that actually has to do with this show and not the record we're harassing you to write for us. Hillary, go. Read it. Okay.

For any teenager watching the show today, what is the main thing you would like them to take away from it? I love that question.

That's a good one. I think it's like simplicity works. Yeah. In your life, in creativity, and material. there's nothing wrong with complexity, and there was certainly emotional complexity, but

like you can enjoy your life without all the electronics, you can feel all your feelings without needing to send everything through a text message. Sometimes talking to somebody in person is the best thing to do. I just feel like there's a simplicity about our show in comparison to the way teenagers are living their lives right now with all the technology that I just would love for them to embrace a little bit more of, maybe. You know what else for me? really comes up is communication. Because when things go unsaid, your brain will fill in the gaps. 100%.

And the best relationships on our show, the relationships that people have come to us for years and said, I want a friendship like that. Those come from communication. But I like what you added in their joy. Like sometimes you just got to give it a beat. Like if you're going to be friends with people for 20 or 30 or 40 years, like sometimes everybody just needs a second give people a beat love them and then talk to them you know stick stick with it i think i think all of that is really important and i think our show modeled that really well

sometimes we modeled crazy things like dog hearts but sometimes we modeled communication the communication is so right like i tell maria this all the time because we i got her an ipad and i don't she still doesn't have a phone but i have rules around the ipad and one of them is you are not allowed to have have, like, meaningful conversations via text right now. When you're older, maybe you can figure it out. But, I mean, I still struggle with that. But for her age, like, to train her brain to start having, like, emotional conversations on text, which happens, like, she'll get these messages from other girls.

Like, why did you say that in class? And what, you know, who, blah, blah. And I'm like, babe, just say, I'll talk to you tomorrow, show up at school, and talk to them face to face because it's just so much better. And I love that we did that. We did that. We got bad at it later in life as humans. I would say the reason the characters on our show had such rich lives.

Like, they're fun to watch, right? It's fun to live through them because they got involved, you know? Brooke Davis was throwing prom and doing the, you know, designated driving thing. Haley. Yeah, they cared. Like, joins the cheerleading squad, right? It's out of her comfort zone, but she joins. Lucas Scott gets off of that river court

and like joins in the school. Peyton doesn't have a place and so launches this all ages thing at Trick. You know, getting involved. And thought, yeah. I mean, getting involved is something that I think COVID really messed up for a lot of kids

because it was like there wasn't that natural passing of the baton. And so it's almost like you just got to jump in and even if it's a club that you don't know if you're going to love it or not, like, join that Spanish club, honey, go do students against drunk driving, you know? Like, join the thing. But just join. That's the astute observation.

There's the fact that COVID messed that up. I never thought about that. But I think you're right. I think there's a lot of kids that never got that sort of passed down to them because that two-year gap. Yeah, it was weird. Get in there. All right.

You know what I think about a lot? I think about how crazy it is that. you know, and you read, you learn about this in school, right? They say history repeats itself around every hundred years. And I don't know if you guys have thought about this, but thinking back to, you know, the big flu pandemic of 1918, and you see all the people isolated and, you know, in their masks and all the black and white photos. And I just think like, oh, man, it's been so hard for us to your point to not be able to gather and especially for kids. And then I'm like, what did they do when they couldn't FaceTime?

You know? What did they do when they couldn't be in school on Zoom? Like, damn. And it makes me wonder, I've never thought about this. Were there schools running drama clubs on Zoom? Were kids able to have any version of that? I don't know the answer, but yes, there were. I love the desire to be resilient and the desire to figure out how to gather. And my hope, hearing your observation is that kids who got out of that practice who do, as you said, Joy, feel a little more comfortable maybe on an iPad than they do in person. I hope their parents are also pushing them to get back together in person now because they can. And to join the extra club, to do

the after-school extracurricular thing that, you know, is back on this year because I think we're so lucky to be more connected than never, but I also think nothing replaces face-to-face. time with your people and with your peers. And that, I think, is where you learn to communicate like that. It is where you learn to be inspired by, you know, some group activity. The puppy pile. Remember being in school, just puppy piling with your friends? I still puppy pile. It's my dream situation. Girl, we know. I love that you still do it. Maria does. I love pulling up to school and watching her, all her friends. They're all climbing all over each other.

Oh, that's so good. Cute. That was a good question. Well, okay, listen, if you had a theme song that played every time your character walked into a room, what would it be? I mean, I don't know what mine is. It's kind of an obscure song. This is an obscure song.

When we were filming One Tree Hill, this biopic documentary about Harry Nielsen came out. And he has written, like, so many songs you've heard, you just don't know that he's who wrote them. And he has this song that's like, you're breaking my heart, you're breaking my heart. So fuck you. And I just feel like, that is Peyton Sawyer. Like, it's obscure. It's like acknowledging that I'm dying inside and also like, eh, fuck off.

That's it. That is so funny. I don't think I've ever thought of this before, but when you read the question, these boots were made for walking. Hopped in my head. Yes. And then I was like, why am I thinking about that for Brooke? And then I was like, honestly, it's not a no. A little Nancy Sinatra.

Yeah. Just like a little sassy lady. She's American royalty? Okay. I'm into it. Okay. I love it. I'm probably going to stick with.

I think I said Casey Musgraves the last time and she came to mind again for that reason. But I think I'm going to say cup of tea. Okay. When I think of Haley, she was so confident. you know, even though she had kind of some neurotic insecurities, there was a confidence about her that was like, I know I'm not everybody's cup of tea. It's okay. You know, we're not all going to, you're not always going to like me. I'm not always going to like you. But she was confident in who she was. Yeah. And I like that. I think it was cool. Yeah, man. All right,

we're printing a mixtape together. Hold on. Do we have any other characters that we have songs for? Let's see, what would the Nathan Scott song be? Oh, yeah. Oh, gosh. I feel like he's so, like something so classic like Tom Petty or Bruce Springsteen like just such I don't know you know what I mean that's what comes to mind for me immediately

is that era and those sounds yeah I mean I think of the marriage between Haley and Nathan and I think of that Eric Church song Wrecking Ball do you know what I'm talking about that song's so perverted but it's like a husband and wife like hookup song you guys has great hookup energy oh joy

put that on hey I'm putting it on my list I wish I had a better answer for that I feel like there's there's so my brain goes totally blank when somebody says think of a song all I can I know it's like I can't think of a single record I've ever listened to no there's got to be way better songs for haley and Nathan Lucas is definitely like a born in the USA Springsteen kind of a song right because isn't he so like he's so literary what's a good yeah wasn't that a Bakowski poem that Cheryl Crow turned into Santa Monica Boulevard. Wasn't that like a Bakowski poem?

Oh, was it? I think so. Yeah, I feel like he needs something that references Nezra Chal. Yeah, right? Especially because he did, his character did all the voiceovers of

literature and read, you know, sections of books and poems and things. I'd love to find him an anthem that has a little classic record. hiding it. Totally. Wait, Hillary, don't you think for Peyton it would be just a girl from no doubt in the 90s? Payton's such a bitch. Doesn't Peyton say like a mean Gwen Stefani comment in the show?

Does she? I don't know. I think she said something shitty about Gwen Stefani like season one, just like, oh, that's basic. Like, it's so lame. Love me some Gwen. I know. She's a cutie. She's amazing. But I love that Peyton is like, no, everybody likes no doubt, so I don't. Well, my God, my son has a friend like that that's like, we hate Weezer. I'm like, it says you. Weezer's awesome. Watch your mouth, young man. We should kick it to the audience for Dan Scott.

Like, I want to hear from the audience what they think Dan Scott's theme song is, our bad boy. Maybe Nathan's would be, he's so fun. Oh, yeah. Wish you mine. Wouldn't that be cute every time he walked in the room? It would get annoying after me. Yeah, he's adorable. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and. confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep

traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn, Burn, Bridges. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Number three, what's the last book you read? Well. You're reading all the time, Hillary.

Of constantly. I read Mystic Christianity. It's a book that was written in 1908, and it was a critique of American Christianity at the time and about just all the shit they make up that's not actually in the Bible and it talked about like things that I had never considered

like who are the wise men like really think about that for a second who bankrolled Jesus so he could escape you know King Herod and so it's stuff like that it's you know it's a lot of New Testament philosophy and it's

a really fun beach read kids great time I have a book that is it's funny I finished a book last night and then started a new one today and the next book in my stack based on what you just said you need to read it's called Jesus and John Wayne

and it's about the marriage of like the deep toxicity of the evangelical church and toxic American masculinity and how it's completely missed what faith is about and what being a man is about and it's

oh like the back of the book jacket gave me chills so i'm excited to get there but i just finished the most beautiful book on it's it's really amusing on girlhood and growing up and grief and loss and love and all these things it's called the paper palace oh i heard about that one oh my god it's so so stunning i could not put it down um So I stayed up late to finish it last night, and then today I started, Cole Arthur Riley, who runs Black Liturgies, wrote a book called This Here Flesh that I'm reading, and it's really about the liberation of the systems we were raised in and how it's actually our community that gets us there and all of the stories that make us. and so sensing sensing themes. You keep a book

in every room in your house. She's like, this is my kitchen book. This is my bedroom book. Yeah, in the same way that I want to pile with my people, I want to just be under a pile

of books at all times. I feel that for you. Joy, what are you reading? I just finished all the light we cannot see. Oh, cool. Which was so beautiful. I'm in a little neighborhood book club,

so that was on the list. That's fine. And yeah, it's a beautiful telling of a little blind girl in World War II and she's in Germany and there's a boy that she'd be friends who gets recruited into the Nazi army and it's just like really putting on glasses to look at how things might have felt from the other side and and what it looks like to be confronted with ideas that you don't agree with, but you go along with it anyway because it's just too scary to say,

I don't believe that. And then how this little girl survives, it goes back and forth between the two stories, and then how this little girl survives and actually thrives, even though everything around her is falling apart. She can hear it, but she can't see it. So she's got this whole world constructed in her mind that she lives in. And it's just, it's really beautiful.

When did that come out? Is that new? I feel like it was maybe 14 or 16. I'm not sure. And then the audio book I'm halfway through right now is lessons in biology, or sorry, lessons in chemistry, which is also great. And it's about a female chemist in the 1960s. and just all the crazy shit

that happens to her but it's so well written. I have to imagine that was a weird scene yeah I'm going to infiltrate this boys club yeah but she will she turns her chemistry knowledge because they just won't let her climb the ranks and do what she's capable of doing so she turns it into cooking

and like becomes this host of a cooking show in America but then they flash back to this whole story of her life and it's great sweet so I recommend I recommend. Great question. I love it. Okay, we have looking back,

do you think there was something your character did or said that was ahead of its time? Well. Mm. Not really. I mean, I still stand by the fact that Brooke Davis invented Uber. That's true. Yeah.

Yeah. Feels ahead of its time. God. You know, the guy that, like, eventually opened that company, he watched our show in college. I bet money on it. He sat there and cried with all the rest of the kids. Absolutely. You just cry.

Peyton ahead of her time? I don't know, man. I mean, I feel like it was true to my high school experience. I just hung out with my friend Marla the other day. And she and I just became friends in the last, like, few years. She's a new, like, friend. Um, she'd never seen the show. And we were hanging out and she's like, I watched the first season of your show. And I was like, you weirdo. Why would you do that? Uh, she's like, because I, I feel like it's you, right? Like, are you, was, were you Peyton in high school? Was that real? And it was. All the questions about like, sexuality and place and gender and like, what do I do with myself? Like, all of that was my experience. And so I don't think it was ahead of it. time, but it was timely.

That's cool. Yeah, I don't know. The only thing I could think of is just Haley being a pregnant girl in high school that nobody shamed for being pregnant in high school. Right, right. I thought that was kind of cool. I was like, okay. In fact, we all, like, threw baby showers and it was kind of fun.

I know, I know. Totally. It's like, okay. I guess that's a nice world to imagine. Do any teachers ever stop Haley and be like, oh, my God, are you okay? Okay? No, never. That's wild. All right. It's really wild that everyone just acts like it's totally normal.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's because she was married. That made it okay. So suddenly everybody was. Well. You know, it's another, that's the conversation for another day. But she's bona fide. What's that line from Obrother Raat now? He's bona fide. Yeah. Haley was bona fide. But whatever, regardless, it does seem like a, that's a nice world to dream of. where a girl could make whatever choice she wanted and not get shamed for it either way and just be supported.

It would be nice. If only poor Rachel had had that. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's O-T-H. Or email us at Drama Queen's at iHeartRadio.com. See you next time.

We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl. all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens. Smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl.

Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. Drama, drama queens. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-flict. award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis

the 4, who opened the first native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.