Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (Part 21)

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

Just in time for Halloween, this one truly is a thrill! From their favorite costumes, to never told before stories from Hilarie’s epic Halloween parties of the past! Plus, real life paranormal exper...iences! How do we know they’re telling the truth? ...because they also divulge the last time they told a lie and to who and why!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:34 First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens. Smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. Hey, sports fans, we're coming to you from California, Nashville, Tennessee, and New York, somewhere upstate. We're so excited. We have a Q&A for you today. So many of you send in questions, and we're happy to answer them for you. And I feel like we got some juicy ones. I feel like October questions are the best because everyone's in kind of a mischievous mood to begin with. Let's just get into it. All right, Laura wants to know, what was your personal favorite Halloween costume and what was the party that you wore it to? Or like just event or just like space. We're just in your own house. In your own house. Sometimes you just need to wear a costume at home if you're into that sort of thing. I mean, I don't have a cheerleader
Starting point is 00:01:50 uniform at home. Okay, favorite Halloween costume? One of mine was when I, I don't have a cheerleader uniform at home. Okay, favorite Halloween costume? One of mine was when I, there's a photo of that. We talked about it on the tour coming to your Halloween party as the cast of Giant with Paul and Lee. That was really fun. Like I love a joint costume where you're not alone.
Starting point is 00:02:11 You really need other people to complete the whole picture. Yeah. Right. I mean, the standalone kind of thing is like, oh, I get it. She's Liz Taylor. like yeah that makes sense okay but then then when everyone else joins in was tyler involved in that one too yeah oh that's right so tyler was james dean paul came in as rock hudson and lee came in as the cow like a cow i love that about lee i love that yeah i mean i love Halloween you guys
Starting point is 00:02:41 know this is like my super bowl uh in fact i just came from the middle school where i was at eighth grade lunch and I was going from table to table like reminding kids to come to our Halloween festival on Sunday and this kid that has typically like been very rough on me as as I was like you guys come me and all the other mothers you know the witches in town are putting on this haunted house and some kid made a derogatory remark about witches and this little boy goes be respectful and I was like witches is how I get through to this 13 year old um so yeah Halloween's my jam. I would say the most meaningful Halloween I've had was when Gus was going through his Hamilton phase and like really, really, really needed me to dress up with him. And he wanted
Starting point is 00:03:30 to be George Washington, which meant I had to be Alexander Hamilton. So like wearing the wig and like the tight white pants and the frills and stuff through town was an experience. And it was when the show first came out. So it wasn't the hit it is today. Like no one knew what we were doing. That was sweet. I love that. I mean, well, Joy, you were talking about that one year at Hills, which made me think, I think that that was the same year that I love a good costume that I can just recycle because it's like, why not?
Starting point is 00:04:06 If it's great, I'm going to wear it again. Nobody's going to remember. And I had like gone through one of my storage bins and found an old red riding hood costume that I had and I had made the cape so it was like this huge like hood that came down over the shoulders and it was red satin on one side and black velvet on the other and it went like down to the floor I just loved it I'd made it years before for a Halloween party in LA and then I was like oh I just have this I'm gonna wear this again and I loved it it all happens at your household and my brother fell in love with you that year. My little brother was in college and, like, came to visit from college and got probably
Starting point is 00:04:51 way too drunk. And Sophia was the one that held his Viking hair while he threw up because he was wearing a wig. He was so sweet. I was like, oh, honey, let's hold your hair back. Everything's going to be okay. Just try to puke in a bush, not in the house. Yeah. What are we dressing up for this year? What are we doing this year? What should we do this year? I mean, I'm going as a witch because well i was going to say should we just dress up as the cast of hocus pocus hello that's a no-brainer for my son's school their mascot is the hawks and we're doing hawk manner and so i got this big feather like collar just to be very extra fair i did that i for maria a couple of years ago she wanted to be young maleficent so i built those wings i got went and got a whole strip of all these feathers
Starting point is 00:05:41 and I, like, built a wire frame set of wings and did the whole, all the feathers and everything. It was a really cool costume. It was cool. It was cool. It was cool. When you get to work with when you get to make your own stuff. I don't know. What am I going to do this year?
Starting point is 00:05:53 What are we going to do? I think we're probably going to go as the Gilmore Girls because she's into it right now. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. I love a nostalgia costume. Also, I got to be honest with you guys, I don't even know what day Halloween is this year. It's a Tuesday, which is weird. That always bums me out.
Starting point is 00:06:11 a little bit. Me too. I prefer a weekend Halloween. Yeah. Yeah, Halloween should be one of those holidays that travels. Like, it's always just on the Friday or the Saturday of the week, you know? Like Thanksgiving. It's always on the Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. Like, shouldn't it just be the last Saturday of October? Yeah. Just a traveling holiday. What I wouldn't give. You know what? When we take over the government, that's going to be our number one cause. The most important thing to us. We'd like to propose a bill. That's right. Daylight savings in Halloween.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Perfect. All right, what we got next? Well, this one's from Risa, Raisa, Risa. We don't know how to say your name, Risa. But it's super cool the way it's spelled. It's pretty beautiful to look at. Yeah, I love it. I wish I was more well educated on how to say your name.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But you asked us, what do you take pictures of the most? What do you take pictures of the most? You guys, my best friend just told me so hard yesterday for this. So we're up in Big Sur and we were going down the highway and it's like magic hour. You know, the ocean looks moody. There's pink clouds out and these huge green fields that stretched toward the ocean. And this field that we'd driven by earlier in the day was full of cows, like beautiful brown cows in the sunset. And I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And so I'm like, we have to pull over and I roll the window down. I'm taking pictures of these cows, and she goes, what are you going to do, frame a picture of those cows and put it up in your house? Yeah. I was like, maybe, I might. Look how beautiful they are. She was like, you're never going to look back at that photo. And I realized, I take photos of landscapes everywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And I never look at them again. You're a photo hoarder, the same way that you're a hoarder hoarder. I have to have it. If I just have it in my connection. If I just have it, I could look. at it someday maybe options options are important oh my god i have to look at my phone to see what i have the most pictures of i feel like it's screen grabs of information that i'm too lazy to relay yes i have a lot of those too i mean maria but she's also at an age now where she doesn't want me to take her
Starting point is 00:08:28 picture anymore you know she throws her hands up and doesn't want to what do i have photos of The last thing I got a picture of is George's nose crinkle. Like, George has, when she scrunches her nose up, the lines that are created in her flesh are just a shape that I find really pleasing. And so I've made her take this whole series of nose crinkle pictures because I'm convinced I'm going to get it, like, tattooed, like geometry on my arm somewhere. Oh, that's awesome. Is it or is it a little bit obsessive? Just like, crinkle your nose from Emmy. Crinkle your nose.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, make those black and white and do a sequence, like a photo booth sequence with a bunch of them. He's so cute. It also feels important to grab because, like, your nose and your ears are the two things that never stop growing in your life. So it's not going to look the same when she's 20. Well, and it's how I can tell she's genuinely happy because she's an actor. Like, she can fake a laugh or a smile, but when she gets into nose crinkle zone, like, it's real i love it that's so sweet i have mostly pictures of maria and and then photos of i really do like taking photos of my friends in position like in a spot when i feel like they
Starting point is 00:09:47 would want that photo if i see something that i'm like oh this person would want to have this memory or this photo i like to jump in and take that that's so nice that's like the best gift that you can give people i think it's just because i've because i've because i've as a single mom, I have so, there's so many moments that nobody ever took photos of. They're just in my mind because it's just her and I. And I have some selfies of us. But whenever somebody would jump in and be like, let me take a picture of the two of you or just grab a photo and send it to me. It did. It always meant so much. So I think realizing that made me go, oh, I want to do that for other people too. Yeah. That's one of my favorite things to do out in the world. Like when I
Starting point is 00:10:27 see people, when I see a group of people or a family or whoever, you know, there's a whole. whole group of people standing in front of a house or like a restaurant and one person's taking the picture. I'm always like, no, you go get in it. I'll take it. Yeah. I love to take pictures for people so they can all be in the photo together. See, I try to do that and I always get rejected. I have a thief face, I think. Jeffrey laughs so hard. We'll be at the beach and you'll see people doing that. And I'm like, do you want me to get this picture of all of you? And they're just like, no, no, move along. no when you get rejected because you're trying to help they think you're like I'm gonna steal that phone yeah they think you're the woman like selling roses who's gonna grab the phone and run or they think
Starting point is 00:11:12 you're just gonna take a photo with like all the feet cut off or something or like too much space on the top I look like I won't do it right but you will you're a good photo taker oh no guys It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history.
Starting point is 00:11:59 podcast Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tyler wants to know What is something you always want to be remembered for? Bichery.
Starting point is 00:12:41 When I think about all the things that people do know me for, it's usually either picking a fight or ending a fight or saying what I think. And so I don't know that I have any options here. I think it is just bitchery, which I'm good with. Is it something we've already done or something that we want to do? If it's something, if it's something that already exists, I think the thing that I hear from people the most that means the most to me is that my home feels like their home. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Like for me, being the place that people can come to to celebrate or to grieve, like I, I, I, I, like, I, love to be the space that people know they can rest and it means a lot to me that like you know over the years like so many people have keys to my house yeah so many people know that like if they need something they can they can come and stay with me that's awesome and I love that feeling and I never want that to change like that's been a deal breaker for me in relationships like oh yeah in the past if people don't like it I'm like well this far Our predates you, so you have to go. But I do, I thought that was a really astute question.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like, what will it be in the future? What is, what is something we're going to do that we haven't done yet? Who are we growing into? Like, I love the idea that there are outcomes we can't even imagine yet, because life is going to be bigger than what we've previously thought. Outcomes we can't even imagine yet. God. That's fine. I've been thinking a lot about that.
Starting point is 00:14:27 about the word always in this sentence is funny to me because I have a I think one of the reasons I like to surround myself with antiques and vintage things is the reminder of mortality and the idea that always I mean you might do something that people will remember
Starting point is 00:14:51 in 50 years, maybe 100 if the earth is around that long. So, you know, I think the quote, the Mother Teresa quote, if you want to change the world, start, you know, love your family, I think is the quote. Oh, yeah, it's like love your family. You know, go home and love your family well. And I feel like that's something that rather than looking out and going, what is something I want the world to remember me for, like, okay, even if they do, it's only going to be for another 50 year. Like, what difference does that make? like what can I be remembered for in the people in my life and the community that I have and
Starting point is 00:15:30 people who know me I mean kindness is the first word that comes to mind I'm not perfect at it by any means but it is something that is important to me that I would love to I would love for that to be something that people say about me when I go this morning we passed the cemetery driving to school as we do every day and there was something white draped over one of the tombstones and for a moment I thought it was a Halloween decoration like a like a front yard like ghost that someone had placed on top of a grave and it made me laugh so hard and I made Gus promise that when I die my grave will be the one with like the hands sticking up out of the dirt or like all the Halloween decorations just year round so yeah kind of seems fun
Starting point is 00:16:25 Mindness for your sense of humor. Yeah. Like, can my kids just be the creeps, please? That's fun, too. It's a different kind of kindness. It's like, we're just going to pass out the laughs. Vita wants to know what is a show you would like to start a rewatch podcast about and that you would follow along with watching an episode week to week.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Oof. Like start listening to a rewatch podcast? Yeah, like if there was a show that had a rewatch podcast, what would I listen to? Yeah, what would we follow along with? I mean, for me, the West Wing. Oh, I love that show so much. And like, who's funnier than all? Like Bradley Whitford and Allison Janney, I mean, those people, I would just like, I would love to listen to them talk.
Starting point is 00:17:19 My husband watches everything and it wears me out because it feels like, like I have to have a relationship with so many different shows. But, I don't know, what's something juicy from when we were young? I mean, friends, I would definitely listen to that podcast. If there was a Friends reunion podcast, yeah. That's it. Something from when we were little, right? Felicity.
Starting point is 00:17:45 No, y'all, I would watch a Save by the Bell situation. That rewatch podcast, because I want to know who's bone and who behind the scenes of this, like, little kid's show. I just want dirt and you know it existed there. You know it. Oh, yeah. And I like that everyone grew up and like, I don't know. They have been on TV since they were little. And a lot of them have really long careers and there's also been some tragedy,
Starting point is 00:18:13 but they all seem to genuinely love one another. And I think that's a good example. You want to go back and watch every episode of Say By the Bell, though? You got time to that? I've already watched like half of them with Gus during the pandemic. Okay, yeah, you're fair now. That shit still slaps, man. I'm just like, tell him, Kelly, tell him.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So good. It was fun. Gus wanted to decorate his whole room, like, saved by the bell. So I had to buy all that, like, 90s weird graphic shit off the internet. And kid loved it. Loved it. All right, from Jess. She says, when was the last time you lied and to whom?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Oh. I mean, I'm not going to be. be specific. But I definitely saw the emails. But I was really, really busy. And I did not respond to said emails. And I feel guilty about it, but also know my limits. So if you are the sender of those emails and you understand that I'm talking through code, apologies.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I can't get to everything, man. It's not possible. No. It's just not possible. No, it's not possible. I... I had to lie to my godson when I was in Detroit recently to stop a temper tantrum. I mean, listen, he's too.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So worthy cause. What are you going to do? And he wanted to go see the fire trucks so bad. And I had to be like, oh, but on Tuesdays, the fire station's closed. Yeah. Because everyone needs a day off. And, you know, the rest of us get the weekends off. And that's why there's more fires on the weekends.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So the firefighters have to take a. They have to take a weekday off so they can nap. And he was like, okay. Dude, you're just describing restaurants. Oh, my God. I was like, I don't. Nia was like looking at me, just watching me, trying not to laugh. But he was so enthralled by my story.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And I was like, and, and, and that's why we can't go see the fire trucks today. And you have to get in the car with your mommy and your God mommy. And we have to go. And he was like, okay. And it was acceptable. Acceptable. acceptable. So like, listen, you got to negotiate with toddlers differently, and I do not feel bad about it. No, they ascribe to a magical thinking, and so you need to do the same thing. Yeah, is it a lie, or am I actually just telling him a story?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah. Yeah. Just meeting him on his level. Yeah. I hate lying. I just is so, it really, I really, really, really hate it. And it's the biggest thing in our house. Like, don't, it's the biggest thing for me in relationships. Like, I'm just, I just will never trust you again if you lie to me. You can tell me anything. I might get mad at you, but I will never get more mad than if you lie to me. That being said, if rules do not. make sense. Some way. I don't necessarily have much of a conscience about breaking a rule or working around a rule if the rule is, if it's like semantics and red tape. And you can clearly see this rule has been put in place because one bad apple ruined it for the whole bunch. Yeah. You know, those kinds of things. So, yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of, like, an actual practical example that's happened with recently.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's probably usually, like, it's sometimes traffic rules if nobody else is on the road. Is Maria at the age where she's asking to do stuff and you have to tell her horror stories as to why she's not going to do those things? Like with Gus, I just had to talk about drinking, right? Oh. And I had to be like, it'll kill you. you know like no i don't do that with her i'm just i'm totally honest like i'm as honest with her as her age as is age appropriate for her so like yeah i try not to scare her into things i try and give her a really balanced perspective of both sides of things and then i'm like you have to figure out
Starting point is 00:22:25 you have to take a look at both use your brain and make a decision about what you want looking at like all of the things on both sides so i don't sorry this is a completely off topic No, but listen, my dad, every time there was a situation as a child, there would be a story about, like, how you'll die if you do that thing. And I just assumed that was parenting. Just like, wait, you're not going to die if you walk across the street or if you go to the mall with just your one friend at 8 p.m. on a Saturday. Oh, no. Yeah. Those are the kinds of lies that I grew up with.
Starting point is 00:23:03 We called them urban legends. Yeah. Yeah. There are some little fibs. I probably told her she had to, you know, she's like, can I sleep in your bed tonight? And I'm like, no, you can't. Why not? Well, I want to, I don't know. I just am going to stay up late and I'm going to be working on something. And really, I just want to, like, lay in bed and watch a movie with my boyfriend. So I'm not. I'm just not not telling her the whole truth. Right. Yeah, they don't need to know. Secrets. It's not a lie. It's an omission. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer, because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.
Starting point is 00:24:02 That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls, became, the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, let's do this one.
Starting point is 00:24:42 We got to do the one from Brianna. It's our Halloween episode. Yes. Okay, Brianna wants to know, have you had any interesting paranormal experiences? If so, what happened? Yeah, I wrote a whole motherfuckin' book about this. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You should close us out, Hillary, because I'm sure you've got the craziest ghost stories. So, Sophia, do you have any? Yeah. Wilmington, you know, for our friends who are listening, Wilmington is so haunted. Yeah, yeah. Like, as a place. Yeah. You know, a landmark haunted city, I moved twice because of scary shit that happened in the places I was living in Wilmington.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Because of the scary stuff that happened. I mean, I hung out for a bit. because moving is hard and like breaking the lease is expensive please be nice to me I want to move again you guys things things were not okay there
Starting point is 00:25:44 they were not okay there and some of the things happened to me alone but my last like truly insane paranormal experience thank God happened to me with another person in the room and like we've neither of us has ever gotten over it can you tell us what it was
Starting point is 00:26:01 yeah I mean okay so i mean you all know back in the early days of our show um all of us were uh partnered and and then that's the scariest part of the story yeah the scariest part of the story and then i you know very publicly was not and then the first date i went on was with a very sweet boy named austin nichols when i was 23 and then you know we dated off and on for years and long story longer we when he was like, I'm not gonna let you tell me we can't date because the long distance is too hard and he came to work with us.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You know, bold, gorgeous romantic gesture. We laugh about it all the time. We're still good friends. And when we were actually like properly able to date because we were living in the same city for the first time in a decade, we were sleeping. And this was when I had that creepy apartment on Front Street. Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:27:01 and I just knew it was haunted and Brian our hairdresser lived next door with his boyfriend and we shared a balcony the four of us. It was like a very cute. It was like Melrose Place like the Southern Gothic version. That's a TV show. Somebody write that please. Right? And I hear this noise. It like wakes me up and I'm going what are they doing at like the bar restaurant downstairs? And then I think like what the hell are Brian and his boyfriend doing on the other side of this wall? And then I'm like, wait a second. This is coming from like the alley side of the room, not the shared wall side of the room. And it's getting louder and louder and louder. And it's in the floor. And I turn the lights on. Austin looks at me and goes, what is that noise? And I'm like, I don't know. And we
Starting point is 00:27:47 both start to like get, like make our way over to it. And I'm thinking, okay, this is like a 200 year building is like a raccoon about to like burst out of the wall are there squirrels in the wall like i'm i'm making sense of it by like there must be an animal in i would have gone there too yeah and then when i tell you a volleyball sized orb you who loves an orb hilary pops out of the floor bright white ball and we both started to scream and if you have never heard a six-foot-four-inch man that looks like Austin scream at a pitch that this raspy woman cannot hit. The two of us leapt up and ran to get away from it, but it was coming toward us at this point. And the direction we ran was not to the back door. It was back onto the bed and into the wall.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And we were like, we panicked ourselves against the wall, screaming, looking at each other. And this thing went from like round to tall, like at us and then just evaporated. Did it go through you? I don't know. What did it do? Because we were sort of closing our eyes and sort of looking at each other and sort of screaming. He's like, what do you?
Starting point is 00:29:03 What was it? And then we just stood there and we were like, well, what do we do now? You can't hold the police. No. Can't go back to sleep. And then like inspected the walls, inspected the floor, not an opening anywhere. and we both were just like, are we magic now? Are we cursed?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Like, what, I choose magic. But, like, what the was that? And, like, when we talked to people in town about it, they were like, oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, you know, that alleyway, there were like 18 murders there in 1856. And you're just like, what? Everywhere in Wilmington, people know how haunted all the buildings are.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And they're like, oh, yeah, you know, my friend lived in that building. that happened to her too. And you're like, okay. Okay, I have so many questions, but I'm going to keep them out of minimum. But A, did you get like an alien vibe from this thing, or was it like a ghosty vibe? It was a ghosty vibe. It was like it was energy. It didn't feel, it didn't feel like something that had shown up from elsewhere. It felt like something, someone, some like, you know, energy once created can never be destroyed. Like something was just working its way through.
Starting point is 00:30:17 wherever it had to go, and it happened to need to go through my fucking bedroom. Full body chills. I love this. Have you looked up? Did you do research on orbs and stuff? Honestly, no, I should have. I just think because we talked about all the ones that were in your house hill for so long, I was sort of like, well, this is just what happens in downtown Wilmington. Yeah. Like, I didn't really think that I needed to look into it any further but I'm just so happy that one of my friends was with me and saw it because we still are like, wasn't that so weird? And it's nice to know we're not crazy. Yeah. Like you, like your brother and your ex witnessed all the shit that happened in your house. They got it worse than I did in my
Starting point is 00:31:01 house. Well, because Hester didn't like the boys. In life or death. She just wasn't. Oh my gosh. Have you had any? Ours was so minimal. We were, it was in our house in studio city and it was like electronics would always go on in the middle of the night and it was always like electronic based and just random things happening around the house.
Starting point is 00:31:25 It was like enough that you're like, this is beyond just my circuits. Like faulty wiring. Yeah, yeah. And then I do remember Maria one time came in from, she was brushing her teeth in the bathroom. She kind of ran into my bed. room and jumped in the bed.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And then I was like, what's up? She was like, nothing, nothing. And then a few days later, she told me that she saw a girl. She was brushing her teeth and she spit in the sink and then stood up and she saw a girl her age next to her. Hi, Maria. No. Kids don't make that stuff up. And she doesn't, because she doesn't lie because she knows what a big deal it is.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And she's not like a, she's just, it's not a characteristic of her to make. up stories like that. So it was really like, and it took her days to talk about it. She was like, I don't want to. It was weird. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Ooh. Yeah. That's a weird deal. That's why I sold my house in Wilmington because I remember bringing Gus there when he was like 18 months old and him just looking up at the top of the stairs. And I have so many stories about like stair action in that house that I knew my child was being called and was like. No. No, this is where this ends. Someone told me that my old house is on the market again. They sent me like a Zillow listing. No way. I'm not going to buy it. But my understanding is that the current owner is very uncomfortable in the house and doesn't use the master bedroom or anything like that. Yeah, so anyway, my house, what I found out when I was doing research for the book is I had been told there was a murder of a tenant that lived in my house. Like Hester, you used to be.
Starting point is 00:33:10 to rent out bedrooms when she got older. And this man never used the kitchen, never used the bathroom in the eight years, I think, that he lived there. And he had come on like a Mormon mission to Wilmington and then fell out with the church and no one could understand why. And then one day he just went missing. And so what I didn't know when I lived in the house is that Hester had had an exorcism of the house when she lived there in the 80s, right? And it didn't work. And so it was the back bedroom where my brother lived. And literally the day he moved out, I woke up in the middle of the night and saw this man standing in my bedroom doorway.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And it was clear as day. He was like an iridescent green color. And it was very unsettling. And yeah, the more I learn about it, the more unsettling it is. But that's for another book, friends. So, you know, creepy things abound. Thank you so much for joining us on this Halloween edition. Hi.
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