Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (part 27)

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

The girls discuss a OTH sequel series featuring original stars(!), They reminisce about great food, cheap drinks and good times and they reveal their favorite teenage dramas growing up! It’s hard hitting fan questions with down and dirty, thrilling answers!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.

You guys, we have a Q&A for you. Just the hard-hitting questions this week. Down and dirty. Yeah. You're going to hear us be, you know, real long-winded little yin-yang twins in here because he's off shooting a movie. So you're stuck with Hillary and I today. Sorry.

All right. Apologies first, friends. Okay, we have a question from Biz. They ask, what show would you enjoy more? A prequel of Dan and Karen in high school or a sequel with all of your kids as teenagers. I mean. Okay.

Our show did two things very well. Flashbacks and time jumps. Yeah. So I can't give you an either or biz, but what I can say is I would love a flashback episode to see Dan and Karen in high school, but selfishly because I really like my friends, I would want to see a sequel

where our kids were teenagers so we could all hang out and go play pool at the Blue Post after work. Like, having a teenager in my house makes me want to know the teenagers of Tree Hill so badly. Like, I want to know my Sawyer. I want to know your twin boys.

I want to know Lydia. I want to know all of these kids so badly because it's fun watching a kid grow up. Like all of Gus's friends I've known since they were like two and three years old and you see them blossom into these angsty little animals and I just can love it. Well, and it's cool too. Like I think about that a lot when I, you know, when I get like either when we're FaceTiming or I get like a video. Or when George grabs your leg and doesn't let go of you. I love her.

Oh, she wraps her little paws around me. I feel so special. But like truly, sometimes when I look at Gus and I think about the fact that Brooke has these twin boys and that they would be around his age now, a little younger than him, I'm just like, man, this kid is like one of the coolest people I know and I would love to know more of them. Does Gus want to cosplay as Jude or Davis Baker? Honestly, you know that he does. Like Gus is chopping at the bit to work. He wants to work really. bad. And he's trying to take some scene study classes this summer. And he's doing so many plays this

year in our town and at school. I love that he's into community theater. Girl, he takes it so seriously. And I love it. I love it. I love it for him. I love who he is in that space. And I just want to know, like there's this curiosity factor for all of the kids of Tree Hill, not even like just our kids, but like, where's baby Jenny? You know? Where is Lily? Because there's like crop A of kids that's like Jamie, Lily, baby Jenny. They're all in their early 20s now.

And then crop B, that is Sawyer, your boys is, it was June Davis. Yep. Did Mouth have kids? Who else had kids? I don't remember if we ever saw Mouth have a kid. like, you know, the montagey stuff at the end, but... Bevan had a kid. Oh, remember?

Didn't Bevan have a kid with Tim? Bevan and Tim had a kid. Oh, my God. Yeah, they had a little boy, I believe. And then we've got Lydia and Sawyer were the girls from y'all. Wait, they had a boy they named Nathan. Oh, my God, that's right. Oh, God.

That's right. Oh, my God. I want to see that kid. Yeah, I want to see that. That's fun. I can't decide if he'd be really athletic or, like, Like a total theater baby. Oh, yeah.

I mean, he's soft, that kid. Because he's like a mama's boy. Yeah. I love it. Okay, well, this is a great question. I pick both answers. Yeah, because I also, again, super curious about Dan and Karen because I love a villain origin story. Yeah.

And like, what if there's shit we don't know? Like, what if Karen was so mean to Dan in high school? Like, what if she was the popular one and was just like, like you, damn. Yeah, we don't know. You know. I love it. Karen could have been humbled over the years. And that's when we meet her as Lucas's mom.

I would love if she was like a Heather's type bitch in high school. Wouldn't that be great for Moira? Oh my God. She'd have so much fun. And by the way, like part of, I think, what would be so cool about flashback episodes to see them is that They did go to high school in the 80s. Yes, that's hot. It would be heathers.

Like shoulder pads and perms. Give it to me. I won't it. Yeah. All right, Biz, that was a really nice question to answer. Okay. Piper wants to know, what is your most played song on your Spotify right now? I'm opening my phone to check.

I have a hunch. I know what it is. Yeah, mine's definitely most wanted by Beyonce and Miley Cyrus. I love this cowboy Carter album. Baby. I have strong feelings about Miley. I'm pretty fucking into both her and Beyonce. Same. I'm going to give you three guesses what mine is. Is it Pompom Squad or man? It is. You only need one guess. I'm like, it's one of those two bands.

Did I get your one and two? You're fucking hilarious. It's Pompom Squad. and which song um it's just the whole album is up here so what my favorite song is this song she has called crying and it's got a real roy orbison feel to it and i okay there's a line in there where she says feels like everyone who loves me fucking hates me and i have never never felt more seen girl i just i know i know that i know that everyone loves me but also so I know that I'm insufferable.

Like, I know this. Well, I don't think you're insufferable at all. I actually wonder, is that sort of the cross to bear of being a cancer? Yeah. Where you are so sensitive. Like, here's the thing that I've learned. My year, my word of the year for 2024 was tender. Yeah.

I have been experimenting with being more tender with myself and others, even in like pursuit of justice, even in what is true. Yeah. Communicating more tenderly for the last couple of years. And it's really a place that I feel like I've arrived. But it's painful to be as sensitive as we are, which is where the little crab shell comes from. Like it literally protects you from getting stepped on. But then people just see a hard exterior and they're like, oh, you're tough.

You're never affected by anything. You always seem good. And you're like, I'm sorry, do you know what it feels like on the inside of my rib cage? Because I'm sobbing all that. So that thing I realized turns into like, well, I know you love me, but are you sure you're not mad at me? Yeah. Like you, you seemed quieter this morning than normal. And it's like, well, yeah, because I hadn't had a cup of coffee yet.

And I'm like, yeah, but are you mad at me? Oh, the hypervigilance is insane. Is that being cancers or is that just our trauma? It might be trauma. It might be both. Here's the problem. You can't traumatize a cancer because they'll never get over it. yeah um anyway i love mea from pom-pom squad i love this crying song and uh just a little a little nugget uh you heard it here

first folks uh i produced a movie last summer and we're in post production right now and the whole time we were making the movie i was listening to her album and so i think she will score your movie No, she's, but she's going to play heavily in some of our music choices. And I just want everyone to know about her. I think she's fucking incredible. I think, you know, in terms of female voices out there doing things that are kind of different, I think she's different and cool. And I like the cheerleader vibe.

And I like, you know, the romanticism of what she's doing while she's playing an electric guitar and just like kick an ass and wearing big, huge platform boots. And, you know, she covers not a surf who was on One Tree Hill, who was a band that Peyton went to see. And so I like all those kind of Easter eggy connections. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yeah, man. Okay. More pom-poms.

Thank you. Pampoms. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia. And on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that. culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for like hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra

Teller Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we have a question from Sidney. What is something small but completely annoys you? Sydney, why? Why would you want to know this? Yeah, people want to know about our pet peeves? Um, I feel like I've talked about this a lot lately, but it is the top of my freaking list. People who watch videos on their freaking phones on,

airplanes with no headphones in. Like, I think y'all are rude. Just straight up, rude. I just, I'm like, we are trapped in a tin tube that pings the sound around. I can't possibly survive five and a half hours like this. Like, I want to claw my own ears off my head. Yeah, I agree with that. It, like, it feels like, you know what it is? That, that, um, that adage about nails on a chalkboard. It feels like that on the insides of my bones. Well, because we have that auditory thing. That might be my gentle autism, but really it makes me nuts. We both have the auditory thing where we get overwhelmed if there's like a TV on and music playing. Oh, I can't. If there's two things happening, uh, I can't do like I really will start to freak out. I also have learned

there's like a, and I can't remember what it's called because I don't have a degree in music, but there is a certain pitch that some people can hear and some people can't. And I always just thought I was crazy. I'd be like, what is that buzzing? What is that beeping? And people would look at me like, what are you talking about? And we were having a party here at the house in L.A. once. Not long after Vanessa moved in with Ricard, but when they were not living together yet and she was still my roommate, we joked.

He was basically like our house husband. Like, we were just like, our husband's home. Those are helpful. Ricard is the best. And, you know, he's an incredible music. producer. And we were, we were like cleaning up one night. And he walked over. I was at the sink and he was like bringing some platters over. And I was like, God, that fucking sound is driving me so crazy. And I don't understand how no one else can hear it. Do you hear that? And he went,

oh yeah, that's blah, blah, blah. And like, told me what the pitch was and how the, like, what the percentage of people who can hear it is. And he was like, I have that. And I was like, well, that makes sense because you literally make a living writing music. So you should be able to hear that. I don't want to hear it. It's unnecessary for you. I get rid of it. I just feel like a crazy person all the time. And he was like, yeah, it's kind of a bummer, isn't it? But cool that you can hear it too. I was like, mm-hmm. Yeah, I do that thing where I force blood into my ears to drown out other sounds. You know, like the hum. What do you do? I don't know. You just tense muscles in your head. No, I just tense muscles in my head and it creates like a... I'm so glad nobody

can see us right now because I'm trying to do what you're doing and I don't get it. This is one day where I'm very grateful this is an audio medium. Watch this is going to be a blooper on Instagram. I'm like, huh? No, you just like force the blood into your ears and it creates I will like shake mine. Audio, yeah, audio stuff bugs me. And I don't like, I don't like TV on at night. That really, I get, I get, I'm just triggered by sound a lot. Are you really jumpy when you watch movies and stuff? Like you, you, You react big to loud noises. Big.

It's terrible. Everybody, people actually like to see scary movies with me because I apparently break up the tension because I make them laugh with how jumpy I am. Yeah, same. And I'm like, well, I'm glad you're having a good time. I'm actively upset. Yeah. All of my, like, you know, adrenaline and all the bad chemicals are going right now.

Oh, I like this question from Laura, especially because we've been talking about places we want to travel, like Bulgaria, where Joy is making a movie right now. Sophia Bergeria. Sophia Bulgaria. Honestly, it just feels deeply cool. That's a sexy name. That should... The rhyme? I'm like, okay. But Laura wants to know what is the best city you've ever traveled to and your favorite thing that you did there? This is hard because there's like, there's us as lone wolf creatures, right? And then there's us with our people. And so I will say that Hillary as a lone wolf creatures.

teacher really had a great time in New Orleans as a young person. Like, you and I both spent so much time there. We had such a good time there. We identified with that place. It was, there were ghosts. There was good food. There was great music. Everyone was a little bit rowdy.

Like, we fit that. Yeah. Well, Anne, when you think about it, too, like in our 20s, you know. We weren't going to Europe. We weren't like. No, I mean, not. to be crass, but like, you know, yeah, we were working on our show, but we weren't really making money.

None of us had any credits. They signed us for nothing. And, you know, that was a long journey. And so, like, I remember watching people who were on, like, big network shows, be able to go on those big European trips or whatever. Like, we couldn't afford that. No, we needed, like, spring break quality travel. Yeah, man.

I loved being able to go to New Orleans and get, like, an oyster po-boys. sandwich for like $4 and a Long Island iced tea for eight bucks we were like oh my god we're living like kings down here you know how I feel about a Pims cup like I had Rob Buckley do a movie with me down in Louisiana and he hadn't been to New Orleans ever and I was like let me just take you on a little trip and he had to carry my son on this ghost tour and we like he ate like a monster he ate like full meals everywhere I went it was it was so fun

I'll never not think of I'll never think of New Orleans and not think of Rob Buckley just like yeah I'll eat that whole thing I'll eat that yeah no I'll eat that I love it we should go back we need to go back to New Orleans as like grown up sophisticated we'll stay in the garden district

this time we'll stay in a fancy hotel okay but like As grown-ups with our people, where are we traveling that we love? Yeah. I don't know. I also probably because I'm looking at your face right now, like, I have such nostalgia for Paris because we started going there together for conventions and like going to the city and working and then like we'd get off and, you know, put on a fancy little outfit and go, you know,

down to some restaurant by the river. Like, I don't know, man. I just love. I love those memories running around these beautiful old cities late at night. You know, I get that movie montage of like the lights on the Eiffel Tower and everybody laughing and oh my God dinner plates hitting the table. Like it just feels so you Paul and I had that magical night like under the Eiffel Tower at that Riverside Cafe.

Yes, with the blue lights along the water. We were there so late. Oh, they had to kick us out. They were like, madams, messieurs. You must go. They were fucking Americans. I agree with you. I agree with you.

And I just had the conversation with Jeffrey. There's a convention in Paris in September that I think I'm going to, I think I'm going to try to go. But because then my kids have school off the following week for holidays. And so I think I might bring all the Morgans. And we'll just like Gus takes friends. And he's in the unit right now. And I know this because his French teacher approached me yesterday and was like, he needed to make up a test.

But he's in the unit right now that discusses train schedules. And I was like, Madame Peterson, this is fantastic. Like, I can't wait for my son to be my tour guide. Yeah. Sophia, we'll just make Gus do all the work. I can't wait. Can we get him like a little conductor's cap? I feel like you might like it.

Yeah. He went through that Thomas the train phase, if you remember. Okay, great. Yeah, Paris is just dreamy. It's dreamy and romantic and also creepy. Like, I was telling George about the catacombs. Like, we can't not take George my creepy six-year-old to the catacombs. She'll love it.

I can't wait to see her little grin across her face. Yeah, she likes creepy stuff. She's been on this planet multiple times and thinks she's our age. She for sure thinks that you're her friend. Not my friend. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.

It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose. and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con

or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Courtney wants to know when you were growing up, what was your one tree hill or like your favorite teen drama you were obsessed with? I mean, come on, Dawson's Creek, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. What else were we really into?

I mean, I watched like a little bit of 90210,10, and then my parents watched an episode, and I got in trouble because they thought it was salacious, and then I wasn't allowed to watch it anymore. And then in college, my best friend from my freshman year dorm hall, my friend Brenna, got me hooked on watching sex in the city with her, and I was like, this is so outlandish. these people are so bold. Do people really have this like this in the world? It just, it like shocked me. Everything about it was so shocking. And I remember feeling like very grown up because I was watching HBO.

So I wasn't allowed to watch any of those shows. Like, none of them. Well, yeah, you weren't allowed to listen to modern music, babe. This was a real sheltered childhood. But when I was a kid, I was obsessed with this show that was it Nickelodeon that would air all the old It was like TV land which was an offshoot of Nickelodeon Yeah yeah yeah and they would air like I dream a genie and bewitched and stuff like that

But this show girl they played a show called What's Happening And it was it was a black show it was all like black teenagers It was Duane and Raj and oh Shirley ran the local diner and I loved the camaraderie and friendship. Oh, rerun. Everybody knows rerun. I was just obsessed with this show. And I just loved that they were kids that were always getting into trouble but also like helping each other.

And when I think about shows that informed One Tree Hill, there's a lot of parallels between those, you know? Everyone is funny but also tender. And I like, I still love that show. Love it. So TV land was where I was allowed to watch TV. I love that. Well, and I love that, you know, as the weird little kids we were when we first met, like, I remember when you first told me how much you loved Bewitched.

And I was like, me too. Yeah. And I was like, she's mine. You know, like there were some of those classic shows that we grew up watching reruns. of it. I really think, yeah, they really did feel so seminal to us. Is there a home for rerun shows like that anymore? Because I know like, no, but you think there should be? There should be like a streaming platform that's just. Yeah. TV land kind of stuff. Because we watched the Brady Bunch. We watch the Partridge family. I mean, everything I watched

was, you know. Oh, wait. Our producers chiming in to say Pluto TV. Oh, my God. Is Pluto TV what I need to be watching? Let's go. Okay. Love it. Fine. Yeah. What's happening was such a good show. I just loved it. Loved it. I remember a very specific episode where Shirley was talking about wearing Charlie perfume and at a yard sale. I saw like a half used bottle for like $2. Oh, Charlie perfume. And it's very strong and very chemically. I had to have it. You had to have it because Miss Shirley had it. God. I can love it. that show. I love it. Yeah, ma'am. All right. Well, we've gone from favorite TV to Lauren's question. What is your favorite breakfast food? I have not a good answer, I don't think. It's toast. I just really. It's just toast. And I didn't even realize what a terrible answer it was so you asked. It's a bland answer, babe. It really is, listen, the thing is,

especially when you work in the circus like we do, you can't always guarantee that you can get a good thing to eat. So it is nice to have like a plain basic that you can go to on set, whether it's like 4.45 in the morning or, you know, you're doing night shoots so you're having breakfast at 6 p.m. And like, you just, you got to just get it in and keep moving. I get that. What's yours? Well, it's probably,

it's like fancy. Is it a fatata? Oh my God. Stop it. So here's what I was going to say is I'm like, okay, if I'm traveling or I'm on set, it's really plain. I want one of those like crunchy rice cakes, plain peanut butter. I do like, you know me.

I travel with a little thing of salt everywhere. So I do salt. If I can find a banana, great. If not, I'll just eat the rice cake and peanut butter. That's like my toast. But when I am home, In L.A. and I have a free weekend, like my Saturday breakfast is always really important to me. And then it's either a Courage bagel or a crispy rice bowl from Squirrel.

And then I feel very fancy. You do love that bagel place. I am the mayor of Courage Biggles. They gave me my bag of bagels that I ordered and put Mayor Sophia on it. And I was like, I've arrived. This is more meaningful to me than any. award I've ever won. I am a, this is my hometown hero moment. I am the baroness of bagels. Thank you so much. And I went home. Who needs a key to the city when you've got that bag of bagels?

I don't. The fact that I can walk up to that window and they're like, you're usual. And I'm like, you fucking know it. That's a love language to me. Yeah, nailed it. Well, speaking of, Lisa wants to know, what are your love languages? Stop. Yeah, that's literally the next question. Okay, wait, what are yours? So, I feel like mine used to be physical. I was not a kid that was hugged enough, I guess, and like physical touch was how I understood love to exist. But my husband is, he is an acts of service person.

And so, for instance, like, you know, you know that Jeffrey just walked into this room and said, I'm going to the grocery store. What can I get for you? Like, my understanding of love has changed over the course of my relationship with him where I see how meaningful acts of service are. And that's what he's really good at. So now that's what I'm really attracted to. Yeah. Isn't that weird how it can change? I really love that. I think similarly to you and like maybe it's because I was the only kid in the house, physical touch has always been one of my biggest love languages. And I think because I'm so lucky to have the friend community that I have, like, I'm never sitting next to you

without my head on your shoulder and vice versa. Oh my God. There was a puppy pile moment at Bevan's house. That was literally in the dog bed, like on the floor. It was so great. Yeah. Loved it. I, anytime I'm anywhere, I'm either sitting in a friend's lap. They're sitting in my lap. Like, I, I am the kind of person, oh, God, back in the fall, I spent a couple days in New York on my way to that trip with my family. And I was staying in the city with one of my best friends and a bunch of our friends were in town. Everybody was there for like music stuff and fashion stuff. And my friend Jacob was in town and I didn't know. And I was walking down the street in Soho out of my friend's apartment, going to get lunch. And I see Jacob and I go, no. And he's

walking toward me and he goes, no. And we ran at each other like it was a movie. And before I knew what was happening, I was in the air. And I had like my legs and arms wrapped around and he was spinning me around in the street. And it was like this whole moment. And I watched people be like, what is happening? And then like, he put me down and then like the guy he was seeing ran up and wrapped his arms around him and then people were like, oh, they're not a couple. And I was like, no. I just like, I want to be smushed together with my people all the time. I hold hands. I hold arms. Like, I just, I love safe physical affection. And I think I've leaned into it, especially, like, since leaving a job years ago where, like, my physical body was very unsafe. Yeah. In a way,

it's almost like the people who I'm comfortable physically with, I'm even more comfortable with now, because I'm not very comfortable with strangers. But yeah, I don't know. I just, I love hugging. But then to your point, like, my other one is definitely acts of service. Like, I love to pack for people. I love to help you move. Oh, that's so nice. Oh, my God. Like, to go to someone's house and reorganize their pantry is like my absolute dream come true. Like, I, I love to. I. I will show up, if you have anything going on, whether it's good or bad, I will show up to help you with it. And that, that's something I like about myself and that I really value in my friends like you, because you're the same way. Like, if something's going on, you're just like, what do you need? Where are we going? What time do we need to be there? And that stuff, that feels like an extension of like a safe hug to me. It's like a, it's like an, it's an energetic hug in a way. yeah that felt really safe on our drama queen's tour like i wanted to drive because i wanted to

take care of everyone and you wanted to get our outfits and you know like you were doing all of the social media posts like you were just like handling all the business that i couldn't because i was driving and it felt so loving it like taking care of each other in that way yeah that i think the longer you're with someone, the more those acts of service, they're easier to do, but also they mean more. It's like, this is someone who's not bored with me and still wants to show up for me. How cool. Well, and in that way that you talk about your relationship with Jeffrey, like you guys have been together for 15 years. You and I have been together for 20 years. Yeah. When you can, like when we can get in the two front seats of a vehicle and divide and conquer,

and we don't even need to talk about the plan. We're just doing it. And we're just doing it. it and we're laughing the whole time. It's like, God, that that's a nice shared language to have with someone. Shorthand, baby. That's the love language. Shorthand. You guys, these were great questions. I love these questions. Thank you, friends. Yeah. Don't use our pet peeves against us. Thank you. Yeah, please don't come to conventions and like bang pots. I'll cry. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's OTH or email us at Drama Queens at IHeartRadio.com. See you next time.

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Drama, drama queens, drama queens. It may look different, but Native Culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get. your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.