Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (part 28)

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

The Queens discuss OTH crossovers with both Dawson’s Creek and Friday Night Lights.  They get into the reality of Haley’s ‘23’ tattoo and could Lucas’ novel, “Unkindness of a Raven” actually become a reality?!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.

That's a good way to kick this episode off. We're all, Joy, you look settled. You look like safe and settled. The rest of us are just... A mess. Categories over here. Yeah, I don't have the right head. I don't have any of my equipment here.

Sophia's getting... She just got off a plane and is getting back on a plane. Hillary's wearing little cat ear headphones. It's super cute. I like the cat ear headphones. I actually sort of feel like we should get those moving. It's a theme today. I'll try to be feline.

This is our me time, a Q&A episode for you guys. We love these. Hey, everybody. We. I actually really am into this question, only because I was just talking about reality TV with a group of people. And like some of us don't watch it and some people do and whatever. And Ariel asks, if you wanted to start your own reality show, what would it be about and who would you have in it? And I feel like days like today are are sort of what would go on a reality show, like when everything's a mess.

Like you're wearing your daughter's headphones because you don't have your equipment and you're not in the right place. And I have like everything in the laundry trying to get it dry before a flight. I can't wait until the dryer kicks on and we can hear that like. Right. Do it do a little atmosphere. But don't you guys think it's like it's always the days that are super. hectic and ridiculous that you're like oh if anybody knew yeah because it would just sure let everybody know like we're just all dealing with the same old shes everybody's trying to pack everybody's

trying to get their work done in corners yeah it's all what show would you do what would be like the theme of your reality show i feel like joy you could do a really cool reality show around like the making of your next album especially because you're in nashville now like and all of like the grand old opry and the blue is it the bluebird am i making that up yeah bluebird okay like i as a viewer i would like to watch that i feel like if i were going to do a reality show it would probably center around like citizen activism and i would just go and bug all of our legislators which like would probably excite me but my reality show would also probably get canceled because no one would care that's not true that's not true people love a fight great because i'm ready to

to fight for democracy all the time. But I feel like that would be my show. And obviously, Hillary, we know your show. You do one. You do like an incredibly cool reality docu series on like fixing our broken justice system and helping people, you know, get justice for their families or get out of jail if they're wrongly convicted. Like you literally have a reality show and it's so cool. It's like the sad kind reality though like i i want some i talk with my crew about this all the time because they have been doing true crime programming for decades right like they helped define the genre with all the shows that they've done they literally found dog the bounty hunter they had just been told to go find like a bounty hunter to do a show about and they're the team that found dog damn still my answer

i have so many questions yeah bounty hunters so all we talk about is doing like frivolous shows we're so sick of like sad stuff because it's hard it weighs on you I want to do a reality show called PTSD ho and it's just all about these hustle and PTSO mom or PTA mom honestly yes oh is what I am we that feels very much to me like it would it would be girls five Emma adjacent yeah oh yeah funny but obviously topical but everyone dealing with like you know midlife public schools need so much help yeah yeah they do and like but also you throw midlife women at a public school problem and it's great this is absolutely a television show wait like i feel like we maybe should do this pt s how tuesdays on the

c w joe have you ever thought about like doing any kind of reality or like I don't know if you like that word or maybe documentary better, behind the scenes, like, follow, you know, content about music. Do you ever think about that? No, never thought about it. I don't love the studio experience. Like, live is fun for me. I mean, I love, it feels so intimate to sit in a studio.

Plus, it would probably be really boring for people because it just takes so long to get things right. Like, you're just in there for hours and hours. And, you know, I would never want a camera curve. around when we were writing songs, but like just the, and singing the tracks over and over again, I don't know, maybe somebody would be interested in it. I just think after, especially we just did this convention this weekend, uh, in Wilmington and the guys that are private security for us and just other like celebrities that come into town and these guys are actually former PIs and bounty hunters. And I just think it would be so fun to watch those guys do their job

and follow them around, uh, protecting random celebrities. or whatever people, people who need security. The last time we were there, I got to talking to those PIs, they gave me their business card. And I was like, do you happen to know this attorney and this attorney, like dudes that I've worked with on my show? And they're like, oh, yeah, we know all about the, we do work for those guys. And so that like interconnected web, like remember when we would see the commercials when we were kids where you could get a degree from home? You called like a 1-800 number and you could get a degree in child development or housekeeping or P.I. Like, I wanted the P.I. Disagree is so bad. Yeah. I follow a private investigator. That would be a really, for me, that would watch that reality show.

That has to exist, though. There's not enough chick P.I. Agreed. Like, Dog's wife was on his show, but it's really just them. I'd like, I'd like a larger sampling. Is it basically murder she wrote? Is it like... Yeah, absolutely. What if we found like a 65-year-old female PI? I met one. I met one in Ohio. She's incredible.

Yeah, she is incredible. She's just a grandma, and she just looks like, you know, soccer grandma, and she's all the times. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, that's it. That's the show. Problem solved. Thanks, Ariel.

I'm so into it. What a good question. All right, Jenna's asking. She's like, I always hear you guys talking about Dawson's Creek and Gossip Girl as shows that were comparable to yours and some actors you interacted with. But I never hear y'all talk about Friday Night Lights. Did you interact with that show? Jenna, you are 100% correct. We don't ever talk about Friday Night Lights, but I love that show. What year did that show start? It was half, it was like halfway through ours, wasn't it? I think so, but I think it's worth saying, you know, like, oh, God, we're such fans. 2006, yeah, so we were three seasons in. Part of the reason that we talk so much about our interactions with the Dawson's kids

is because they filmed in Wilmington right before us. So we shot in the same location. We used a lot of the same crew. We filmed at the same, you know, studios. And being in Wilmington is really like a specific experience. And then with Gossip Girl, we were all on the CW together. So when we would go do press for One Tree Hill, we would be with those kids and other CW folks. We didn't get to hang with the Friday Night Lights kids because we were on a different network.

And they filmed in Austin, Texas. What network were they on? Oh, they were on NBC. Yeah, they were an NBC show. They were like a big network show. But they were only on NBC for two seasons. And then they got switched to the 101 network. What is that?

What? Remember, it was the audience network. Y'all, I'm on Wikipedia right now. Oh, yeah, and everybody threw such a fit. The fans actually brought the show back. Isn't that what happened? Yeah. There was some massive thing.

Yeah, NBC was like, we don't think we want to pick up this show. It's, like, not that successful. And the fandom was like, excuse you? Yeah. Which was pretty good. Guys got, listen, I got the work. Due to the writer's strike in the second season, it was shortened to 15 episodes, and it had critical cane passionate fans,

but NBC struck a deal with Direc TV to produce more seasons, but then the DirecTV owned audience network and just put it over there. I'm going to tell you, because I was on a different planet, I thought it was like a varsity blues TV show for the longest time.

No, I did too, Hill. I didn't start watching it until 2012. Now you guys have set me down a rabbit hole. No, you'd love it. You'd love it. And we did. Janet Kramer was, on the show as well. Yeah, Jana was on that show eventually. And, you know, Minka did that show,

I think the whole way through him. And she is just the sweetest human. Oh, Gaius Charles. Jeff worked with him. He's great. I know who I know from this show. I was obsessed with that show, Kingdom. Did you guys ever watch that show about MMA? Yes. Oh, yeah. Matt Loria? I loved Kingdom. Yeah, I only know this guy, Matt Loria, from that show, but I really liked. Yeah, it's a great cast and Friday Night Lights. Well, Jenna, thank you. You're absolutely right. Thank you. We did love that show. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. you carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while

navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so we have a question from Vinanti. She's asking about the quotes written about Brooke Davis and Peyton Sawyer in Lucas's. novel and unkindness of Ravens. So I will read the quotes. She was fiercely independent, Brooke Davis, brilliant and beautiful and brave. In two years, she had grown more than anyone I had ever known. Brooke Davis is going to change the world someday, and I'm not sure she even knows it. And the one about Peyton says, Peyton Sawyer is destined for greatness. Actually,

she already is great, because Peyton Sawyer has a thing called integrity, and nothing or no one is ever going to change that. And Vivanti says, I think these quotes are bang on for who you guys are as people, Sophia and Hillary. And she would love to hear your opinions about that. That's really nice.

That's so nice. It's really nice. I mean, I just did this cool thing this weekend. I was a godmother, a madrino, in my friend's quinceanera. And I'd never been to a quinceanera before. and what was so cool is this 15-year-old girl had these four male escorts and they had to do like five different dance routines and they were there the whole night helping her with her dress helping

out like family members giving toasts to her and it was so special to me to see these teenage boys stand up and support this girl and it just like symbolized this lifelong friendship that I think Lucas Scott had with both girls. And I know, like in my personal life, hearing from the boys I grew up with, like, hey, I'm proud of you. I want to raise a son that does that for other girls, you know? Like having the support, like platonic loving support of a opposite gender peer, it's something that carries you through your whole life, you know? You hear from those people now and you're like, Thanks, thanks for believing in me when I was just a little chicken, you know. Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, that's really well put. It's interesting because it's, I agree, you know, how nice. Like, gosh, Anante, thank you. It's lovely when someone says, this beautiful thing that was written about you, I believe to be true. You're like, really? That's nice. Well, I think it's a natural assumption because, like, so, I mean, as we know, so much of the show is taken from our real lives. But in some kind of interesting way, I feel like it's, there's, I'm not sure who exactly

wrote these words, which one of the writers in the writers rooms put those on the piece of paper. But it does seem like they dipped into genuine feelings for who you guys are as people. They're really lovely quotes. Yeah, they are. And, you know, I think it can be a little hard to speak to, you know, if something feels accurate for you. I think I, I appreciate, like, the opinions of my friends, but, like, I'll definitely say for me listening, as you read it, Joy, like, absolutely. I think that code is 100% bang on for Hillary.

Like, that is exactly who you are. The bitch you want. Integrity's code for, almost we'll say what I think. I disagree. I think, like, I think when you have enough integrity to tell the truth, even when it isn't popular or to like really stand for something um even if it might not be popular like i think that's i think that's such a mark of character i love it it's like that's one of my favorite words in the english language and i'll tell you what like growing into myself as an adult i like

i'm i don't know i think when you get to know that you have integrity it's like that's the thing to be the most proud of. So you can tell all the jokes you want, but I agree. And I think it's very feelings, feelings. What was the deal? It was so weird that like Haley's the person to give Lucas the book in the pilot and is like his like nerd buddy. So what? I don't know about unkindness of Ravens guys. I'm in level with you. I never read it. I didn't either. I don't Is it actually a full book? Did somebody ever actually like write it out? I think someone did. I think there's like a fan fiction version. But if there's a fan fiction version, we need to know what he says about Haley in it. Well, that's what I was going to say. Where are the rest of the quotes? Yeah, I don't know. Who knows?

Because I, because I know that I, I'm pretty sure if memory serves me right, even though we're at the end of season six on the podcast, at the end of season four when we do the graduation party is when I first read this. in the book. Like, it's the first time I learn what, what I, me, Brooke, learns what Lucas has written about her. And I know that part of the reason for that was that we were essentially doing, like, the voiceover that had gotten so popular on our show at the top and the end of an episode. We were basically, like, using his book as live voiceover in the episode. But I don't remember when we hear Payton's.

And I don't remember if or when we hear Haley's. Do you, Joy? No, not at all. I just, I think it was used for the, whatever that scene was, the purpose of furthering that particular storyline. And then we moved on to other things. And it just didn't make sense to go back and, I mean, run down his quote about every single character on the show. So, like, if I was Chad and I wanted to make some quick money, right?

I would have someone just write a dumb little book and put that out on audio books and, like, narrate it. Such a good idea. Yep, absolutely. Honey, honey, put that book out. I would listen to it. Tell me more about Peyton. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions. alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream.

Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Michelle is saying, I recently introduced my friend to the show. She's watching season one for the first time. Something that stood out to us when Luke discovers Haley's 23 tattoo, Haley says if she looks back on it 20 years from now and it reminds her of how she felt in this moment in love for the first time, she would not regret it. And so that's what Haley says in the episode? Yeah. Okay.

The question for joy is now that season one is 20 years old, how do you think Haley feels about the tramp step tattoo now? I love it. The placement is what does it for me. Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, something really interesting happens the older you get, you stop, you have to. You are forced to stop prioritizing and caring so much about the things on your body that are not perfect. You just have to start dealing with it.

And I have a tattoo that I, it's on my foot. It's a little hummingbird. It's cute, but it was done with one of those really thick needles. So the lines are super thick and kind of blurred. And it's definitely like an old person tattoo where you're like, oh, you're old enough to have gotten this before they knew how to make skinny needles for tattoos. The old tiny needles. Yeah, like, I don't love it.

Now I'm like, oh, God, I kind of wish I had never gotten that. But it's become a part of the map of my body, the tapestry of my body that's been affected by age and weather and time and where. And it's just part of the story of me and what I've been through in life and my body. So I think Haley also would find a way to just accept it as part of a wonderful wild memory, a whimsical memory. There's also something to be said for the tattoos you can't see. It's on your back. You don't have to look at it every day.

And like I have a tattoo on the back of my right arm. And you guys, I forget that it's there all the time. time. Like, I just forget about it. And I haven't had it for very long. And on the movie I was just doing, I was like in a dress for this sequence of, you know, cocktail party, blah, blah. And they were like, oh, the makeup artist was like, oh, no, I didn't ever that tattoo. And I was like, what tattoo? And she was like, ma'am, are you okay? You don't know where your own tattoos are. And I was like, oh, I just forget. I forget that it's back there. Yeah. I think the 23 tattoo is sexy. I think it's sexy because Haley and Nathan are definitely like still together. And every time he

walks by her during the summer when she's in a bathing suit or like as she's in the bathroom, putting her makeup on standing there and her bra, he gets to just like, it's a sexy secret between the two of them. Yeah. Especially as you get older and you're not like in a bathing suit in public as much. Yeah. The reminder of like I chose you. Yeah. That's. We did this crazy thing. Yeah. Because they are such an incredible on-screen love story and end game, it's like, I love the tattoo. I'm sure you'd hate it.

Like if Nathan had never turned into Nathan and he'd been like season one Nathan forever and you guys hadn't stayed together, like, you'd be like that guy. That's Smarmy Jr. Dan Scott. I have this stupid tattoo. Like you'd definitely be getting it removed. Lasers. But because it's Haley and Nathan, like, it, I don't know, it's representative of our favorite love story. So I think it's chic. It's awesome.

Yeah. Okay. On a recent episode of Drama Queen, Sophia said she makes a playlist for each character. And Haley is asking, what was on Brooks playlist? Oh. Were you even doing that back then? Like, that's early, early on in your career. Was that a habit back then?

In the early odds, it was like you had to do a, you had to burn a CD. MySpace. So, yeah, I would like make CDs. Although this really does make me think, maybe, like, do I need to just make a full Brooke Davis playlist? Absolutely. Just put on Spotify. Done.

Oh, yeah. I mean, okay. Meet you there. In that case, I won't talk about it. I'll just surprise you all with the link. Give us three songs, you weirdo. Three songs. What are three Brooke Davis songs?

Beginning, middle, and end. Brooke Davis. Oh, God. I mean, hit me with your best shot was always on my Brooke Davis playlist. Um, they're, oh, God, what? It's so hard to pick three. No, that feels so tough. Who's Brooke Davis senior, like, season one? I honestly would have to, like, go back and look at my my playlists in my Apple music. I feel like Willa Ford I want to be bad as on. I won't know, honestly. And then there was, like, there was stuff, you know, I was really trying to think about what felt like a big deal when we were 16.

So, like, on Brooke's season one playlist, I had some OG Britney Spears. I had, like, and then it would move into, like, great hip hop and all the, all the music that, like, I grew up listening to as a teenager on the West Coast. I grew up such a deep Tupac fan. I really wanted to get back into the space of, like, getting my driver's license in high school because that's where we were, you know? Getting a CD player in your car was epic. Such a big deal.

Yeah, I, like, installed one after I did a commercial. I took out, like, the tape deck in my car. You went to Best Buy and you were like, limiting at that CD player. And put a CD player in my car so cheesy. But I loved it. Yeah. I loved it. All right.

It's a nice blast from the past to think about, like, trying to get in the headspace of a 16-year-old. I love it. I'll make one. I'll make one. Okay, Adrienne asks, oh, I love this because I agree. She says, One Tree Hill is a comfort food for countless fans. What is all of your actual go-to comfort food? Any recipes to share.

Oh. There's several different types of comfort food. Do you have one? No, but like, I mean, you all know this. Like, I just always have snacks. I have bags of snacks. I have multiple beverages in my hand at all times. I'm nervous about not having.

You have food insecurity. You're like, I need a fanny pack full of provisions. Yeah. Or I can't leave the house. We shan't be hungry. Should we get trapped if there's like a highway shut down or someone is hypoglycemic or diabetic? Like, I'm going to have a snack. Everything's going to be okay.

Yeah. But if I'm thinking like comfort food, like I want southern, I want mashed potatoes and gravy. I want like a hot biscuit and butter and onions, you know, like that, all the stuff that we had such easy access to when we were living in Wilmington that I don't have easy access to anymore. Oh, I miss it. I'll tell you, I love walking into a kitchen and seeing after the, you know, Maria's gone to bed and the babysitter. leaving, not that she really needs a babysitter anymore, but sometimes late at night. I will walk in and see a pot with like three spoonfuls left of craft mac and cheese or like Annie's mac and cheese shells and nothing makes me happier than lighten that pan back up and just diving

into that mac and cheese. I love it. Yeah. I just like food that someone else makes for me. Like my best friend here is Iranian and her mom, Suti, is just like constantly bringing food over, constantly. And so anytime I go to pick my kids up from their house in the village, like she's like, oh, Suti left you some food. Suti left you some rice and some lamb or some, you know, like, Souti's cooking is my safe space because it's always when Jeff's out of town. So she knows I'm not cooking any grown-up food.

I'm just making kid dinners. and she makes sure that I have my own little like single portion of dinner and it's and so like yeah Iranian food really has become my my safe food it's my happy place that's funny that you say just food that other people make food I think that's one of my love languages is someone just making me food like thank you for nurturing me I don't have to think about this yeah it's incredible yeah I love that I love to make food for people for that reason like when we hit soup season when it is winter and I'm like you want me to come over and make two gallons of chicken soup

and put a bunch in pyrecks in the freezer done yes please oh it's it is it's so nice to cook for folks and to be cooked for and now I want crispy rice I want like that teak does she make that for you yeah oh dude he's legit version crispy rice is my literal favorite thing she's a genius she's like a doctor I don't know how she finds the time to do all of this, but both her and Sherry, they just like cook for the whole community and I am obsessed with it.

It's so nice. Yeah, I didn't grow up like that. So I'm just like, well, I want to be around this all the time. Yeah. That's love. That's comfort. So thank you, Adrienne, for that lovely question. It's so sweet.

Well, so nice talking with all of you. Thank you for sending in your questions. We can't wait to hear more. We'll be put in our reality shows. together. Yes, please. Let's go. Bounty Hunters R.S. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's O-T-H. Or email us at Dramaquins at iHeartRadio.com. See you next time.

We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you're tough girl, you could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop.

That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.