Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (part 29)
Episode Date: June 28, 2024The Queens answer fan questions including one about a potential future One Tree Hill installment. Could it happen?! Plus, one listener brings up a mind-blowing discovery regarding a turning point in t...he show! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It may look different, but native culture is alive.
My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop.
That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop.
Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges.
Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges.
Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
First of all, you don't know me.
We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.
We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl.
Drama girl.
Cheering for the right team.
Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl.
You could sit with us, girl.
Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.
Q&A, it's time for Q&A.
We need a jingle.
We got some questions.
I know.
What a funny thing for us to be trying to figure out what the jingle is without our resident musician today.
Yeah, it's her assignment.
I know.
We want a Q&A song.
Joy's taking Maria to camp, so she's not here today, but as a former camper and permanent forever in my heart, camp counselor.
I love camp so much.
She was so apologetic about missing this Q&A, and I was like, go.
go to camp for all of us yeah no one loves camp more than you do you and a clipboard and activities
and an agenda and a whistle girl a visor it's a dream life for me really but i am excited about today
because we got like we got real good questions today these these make me feel excited you're good
because you look at them beforehand i i get here and i see them as we go and i'm like oh shit i should
thought about this. I mean, honestly, I just read them while we were getting our recordings
going. I haven't done that. Oh, okay. I feel better. I didn't look at these in advance. I like to be
spontaneously inspired, but while we figured out, like, you know, the technical side of this job we do,
I did peruse and I like them. It's responsible of you to admit that, babe. Thank you.
Yeah, you know. It's actually really funny because, like, I don't know, as an adult,
learning that not everyone is like honest to a fault. I'm like, huh, what's that like to just
hold things back? That's interesting. Imagine if you're just like, yes, well, I am the responsible
one of the two of us. Well, and what was really funny was a friend of mine was like, well,
you know, like you got a diagnosed with adult ADHD, which makes your whole childhood
makes sense. But like, you know, a lot of women who have that are also like gently autistic.
Do you think maybe that's why you have such a truth complex? And I was like, huh, haven't examined that
with my therapist quite enough yet, but I do, I do have a lot of, like, interesting things I do
to self-soothe. So maybe, I don't know. I'm open. They didn't, they didn't check us out.
They just put us at the bad kid desk when we were little. They told us we were misbehaving.
Yeah. No, we weren't. All right. We have a question here from Jason. I wonder if he's naughty
like we are. Jason, many years after the show ended, he says, do you think you could jump back
into your character if you had to shoot an episode next month. If so, how easy or hard would
it be? And what do you think you would have to do to prepare for it? Jason, that's an amazing
question. This is such a good question. I mean, I could go to work tomorrow. I think I could
too. Yeah. And I haven't acted in a long time. But Peyton is just like, I don't know.
Those are our girls. Payton and Brooke are our girls. Yeah. I think that I
could go to work like tomorrow very easily and then part of me goes but wait would I be would I feel
scared if I didn't prepare like I feel like Brooke and Peyton are in us so much that we could snap
right back in but it's also really been a long time so suddenly I'm going well maybe there's like
three or four episodes from the more recent years or I guess the latter years in the show that I would
want to just rewatch just to be like, hold on. Let me, let me hear it. Let me hear the cadence of
not just my voice, but yours and Daphne's. And you know what I mean? Yeah. Wait, which three
episodes would you watch? What are your prep episodes? Gosh, I don't know. I, I feel like I would want,
I feel like I would probably want to re-watch
your wedding episode.
I think I would want to re-watch
I don't know what episode it is.
This is so silly,
but there's one from season seven
that I remember Lisa and I being so fun in
and Austin and I had really sweet stuff.
And I just, something happens at the store.
I just remember I had this cute little
black and tan corset and a pencil skirt.
I loved my outfit that day.
And I'm like, I'd want to watch that episode.
I think that one was good.
And I'd probably want to watch,
I'd probably want to watch, like, the end of season eight.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Now it's getting fuzzy because I haven't actually seen these yet.
So I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly.
No, that's, uh, that's important.
I mean, the prep matters.
I think, I don't know.
I don't, I don't love acting anymore.
But I love Peyton.
And I think the idea of revisiting her and Brooke and everyone else is very attractive to me.
Yeah.
That feels like it's not work.
It feels like it's like a cool hang.
Yeah.
It's weird because had you asked me that question before we started this podcast, I'd be like, I'm not doing that.
I don't know.
But it is so interesting how doing this show has made me.
fall back in love or like maybe really truly in love for the first time with our show.
Yeah.
And now I'm like, oh my God, I want to do, I want to do an episode of our show from this feeling.
Yeah.
Same.
Same.
From this centered space.
Yeah.
I just feel so proud.
I feel so much ownership of it.
I really feel like we made something really special.
And I'm like, oh, it'd be so cool to like, you know, parallel universe and make an episode
from this place.
and see how it felt.
And now that we've gotten to say out loud
how much of the characters were based on us,
whether it was the good stuff or the trauma,
it feels like now I can say,
I really fucking like Peyton Sawyer.
I really like Port Davis.
I really like all the characters on our show.
I like those people.
So anytime you get a script for something,
there's so many variables.
And it's scary because you don't know what other actors are going to get cast.
You don't know if the producers are dicks.
You know, you don't know if the editor is going to be good or bad and how the end result will look.
You know, like you'd have no control over all of that.
But what I can say is I think there's enough in the world of Tree Hill that I can feel pretty safe going back and having like a great time.
Let's just, what happens if we just go back to Wilmington tomorrow and just show up at Screen Gems?
Well, say, hey, guys, we're here.
You know what we should do?
Remember during the pandemic, all sorts of people started doing those live table reads of, like, classic movies for charity.
We should go to Thalian Hall and, like, do a live theater night and, like, do a table read performance of one of our favorite episodes.
Yeah, I'd even read some fan fiction.
Oh, my God.
Because, you know, they've got, like, wild ideas.
Okay. Wild.
Okay, fine. Great, Jason. Yes, we'll be back at work shortly. Thank you so much for asking.
Thank you.
It may look different, but Native culture is very alive.
My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.
It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred
of years.
You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.
That's Sierra Taylor Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner
in television history.
On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native
stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation
basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the
modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream.
Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
Okay, Tani wants to know if you could assign a song to each of your characters to destroy.
them. What would it be and why? Example. To me, Peyton is the song absolutely story of a girl
by nine days. Really? Is it awful that I don't know that song? This is a story of a girl. Oh,
my God. Never mind. I do know that song. Is she cried a river and drowned the whole world? That
feels right for Peyton actually. It's a really good call. Are you making fun of me? What's your song? What's your
Brooke Davis. I don't have any idea why this just came to mind, but we are family. Maybe because
that's just like my song for us. I don't know. Yeah. I got all my sisters with me. Yeah, that feels
really fun. I guess subconsciously that comes up for me because we talk so much about how it's actually
the female friendships that are the greatest love story of our show. And I love that so much.
and I love redefining, like, the great love story of your life.
And, yeah, maybe that's why.
My subconscious is, like, your family.
I'm into that.
I love it.
So I listened to the same song the whole time I was there.
It was Mad World, Tears for Fears.
Because it was from the Donnie Darko soundtrack, right?
And there was something so Donnie Darko about Peyton Sawyer, just like,
Nothing makes sense.
Everything's so awful.
That was kind of my mantra song.
Yeah.
And I love that song.
The message in it is so dark, but it's so catchy, which is Peyton, darkness, but make it catchy.
I like that a lot.
Fantastic.
Nine days sings that song, huh?
All right.
Well, I guess.
I'm learning shit every day.
Unless I'm singing the wrong song to you.
Courtney wants to know.
You have mentioned a couple times about working 18-hour days
just wondering how you can do that and function okay the next day.
How do you remember lines and not look half dead
when you've only had four to five hours of sleep?
Or do they give you a day off after a long day?
No, they don't.
No.
They don't.
I mean, sometimes if you work a solid chunk of like three long days in a row,
they'll have shot all your stuff out but but not usually because even when you get a day off you
have to come in for like fittings and all the stuff yeah yeah you got to like go do all the
dialogue fixes and everything else for sound a cheerleading dance so you're usually working even
if you have a quote unquote day off yeah um so the the thing is and this is why you hear people
talk about how you know crazy the hours are but also how hard it is to have
have any sort of like routine or life doing this job because let's say like we would do on
season one. We would shoot in the gym at the high school on Sundays because we had to be there
when the kids weren't actually there. So we'd usually go to work on Sunday around 4 a.m.
So we'd be ready by 6 a.m. And then you could shoot, those were usually 18-hour days.
Because we knew we only had the gym for that one day. So you had to get everything.
So if you went from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. is 12 hours. And then you'd go.
There's always overtime and travel time. Yeah, you'd go another six hours. So you'd go to midnight.
You know, they wouldn't check your travel time or your hair makeup time. But if we'd shoot until midnight, that meant that I think the earliest we could be back at work the next day was like crew and stuff is like 8 a.m. for setup.
up. So let's say then they say that your call time is 10 a.m. for shooting. That means you're
going to shoot until at least 10 p.m. or midnight that next day. So what happens is every day gets
later and later. So that's why when you hear us talk about, especially in season one, that term
Friday, when you shoot from like a Friday into a Saturday morning, our Saturdays were actually
Fridays. So we'd shoot from like 6 p.m. on Thursday night to 6 a.m. on Friday. And then we'd have to be back at work
at 4 a.m. on Sunday. So they give you a little bit of time. They can't bring you into work
you know, four or five hours later. That's actually against the law. But what it means is because
they have to turn you around. You go later and later every single day. So you go from like the
crack of dawn shift to the graveyard shift every week and then back, which is why none of us have
great memories.
Everyone's like, I don't remember that.
And it's like, yeah, of course you don't,
because you weren't really sleeping.
No, we're just going through the motions.
I will say it's not always an 18-hour day,
but the shortest day you will ever have on a film set is 12 hours.
You will never work less than 12 hours.
And I didn't realize until I, you know, like left the world of TV that other people
are like grossed out by that.
They're like, what, 12 hour a day, what?
And it wasn't until Gus and I just started talking about this
because he pulled a 12 hour day the other day
and was still, like still had more to do.
And I was like, dude, you're pulling film hours.
And he was like, yeah, I know I'm in prep right now
for when I become an actor.
Like, I just got to work on my like, my endurance right now.
I was like, or you could just be 14.
Or you don't have to do that, baby.
Yeah, it's tricky, and I think it's also really tricky because for the girls, it's harder because your hair and makeup calls are so much longer because they have to match your hair every single day. So you have to get a blowout every single morning. So you are usually a two-hour pre-call. So they have time to get you in one, you know, hair chair for 45 minutes and the makeup chair for 45 minutes. And then you can go and get changed and get wired and, you know, make sure you've eaten something before you get on set because there's not.
not time to eat on set.
And you're not supposed to eat in your wardrobe.
You're sure not, because if you ruin it, you screw up everybody else's day.
And so, like, a 12-hour day for set is never shorter than a 14-hour day for us, which is,
you know, part of why I think people really can struggle, like, to feel like they can
maintain their life and relationships when they're working on something like this, because
you just live at work.
We just really sold it, didn't we?
We made it sound so fun.
I know, God, isn't that terrible?
But the thing is, I like to be honest with people.
Because people really, like, when people come to set or people start doing this job,
a lot of people have, like, a culture shock, and they don't, they don't handle it well.
So, I don't know.
I don't mean to, like, crush your dreams, but I do want to tell you the truth.
Yeah.
See, this might be that spicy brain thing I was talking about earlier.
Girl.
I can't lie.
I'm sorry.
I love it.
it about you. You know there's some kid out there that was just debating whether or not they
wanted to go to college and study like acting for film. And now they know there are just some
consequences involved. Yeah, if you want to have a nine to five, do something else. But
if you still love it, you can come play in the circus with us. Here we are. Here we are.
It may look different, but native culture is very alive.
My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very
traditional.
It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for the
kind of years.
You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.
That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford.
Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn
Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the
first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people
are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing
our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple
podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Okay, speaking of what we do on these crazy days on set,
Hannah says, what activities did you guys like to do in between takes?
I'm an actress here in Sweden, so I know how long the way it can sometimes be.
It's easier to keep busy on your phone, et cetera, but what did you do back then?
Oh, oh, the dark age.
Yeah, because we weren't doom scrolling all day.
That's hilarious.
It is hilarious.
I mean, I will say, like...
We had sidekicks.
Yeah, we sure did.
Hillary and I loved those.
I don't know.
I don't feel like we would have that much downtime.
Unless we were doing, like, a big, you know, a gym or a concert or something where there was so much time to do, like, different setups and turnarounds, we were a well,
oiled machine, man. We hustled through things. I think, I don't know, we read a lot of books
on set. We read a lot. Didn't we? A lot. Yeah. We read, I mean, I would go back to my trailer
and sleep for 15 minutes if I could. I was so tired all the time. Because I also had a really
active social life outside of work because I was so, like, traumatized at work that I made friends
with so many other people in Wilmington.
So I would just like live to go be with them in my off hours.
But then that meant I wasn't sleeping.
Yeah, we really did kind of burn the candle at both ends there.
God, what a time to be alive.
Our 20s were incredible.
We were wild.
We were so fun.
Yeah, I mean, it was a lot of reading.
I think like, honestly, that is part of where I got so, so into my practice of reading so much news.
Because it started to really frustrate me as somebody who does love to read.
Like the in and out in a book where you get through three to eight pages and then they're ready for you again started to get so frustrating to me that I just, I started like taking down articles and always carrying like the paper or whatever.
So I think that's part of where my obsession with the news came from because it almost felt easier for me to go article by article in between setups.
That makes sense.
So who was knitting on our set?
Well, Joy, and I knit.
Yeah.
I was crocheting and knitting a lot.
But you were crocheting a lot, I feel like.
Yeah, you were knitting too, weren't you?
I was knitting in season one, and then I was like, this is dumb.
I'm just going to crochet, because not only have one little hook to worry about
instead of two knitting needles that I consistently lose.
Yeah.
And it was easier.
I didn't have to think as much, because when you, you know,
you knit, you know, you like knit a row, you perlino, you know, whatever, back and forth.
You have to remember the pattern.
And that's too much to keep track of when you're constantly getting interrupted, yeah.
I was always like, wow, look at them making stuff that they can hold.
I now know a bunch of random facts about the economic crash in Iceland in the 90s.
Like, what am I doing?
Hey, that's valuable too.
Somewhere.
When I go on Jeopardy someday, that'll be great.
Oh, my God, have you done Celebrity Jepard?
Jeopardy?
I haven't, but I may or may not have just been asked to.
What?
Oh, I'm going to flip out.
So we'll see.
Are you allowed to have a cheerleading section?
I will put it in my rider.
Do we get those?
Or are those just for musicians?
No, I've got pom-poms.
I'm coming.
All right, Samantha wants to know, is there anything that your character wore or used in the show that
belonged to you in real life?
Mm-hmm.
Give it.
I'll give you mine.
You'll love this.
we love Jesse and Edge Verge so much.
When we were doing the series finale,
I went in and got one of her North Carolina
silhouette necklaces with the enamel on it,
and I wore it in the episode.
And I bought it and was so excited about it ahead of time,
and I was like, I really, really want to wear this.
Like, I always want the image of this place on me
for the end of this job.
And in that episode, Austin's directing a project,
Julian's, like, making a TV show.
And so he asked Carol, our wardrobe supervisor, to have that exact same cut out of the state embroidered on his hat.
And so Julian's director's hat has it on it too.
Cute.
So it, like, that necklace really, it really gave us, like, an iconography for the last episode.
And I still have it.
I have it, like, up.
It just hangs on, like, a little thing in my closet.
I love it.
I love that.
Yeah.
That's really cute.
It's really sweet.
I had a lot of, I had all of Peyton's cowboy boots.
Those are all mine.
And then in season five, there's some very holy jeans.
There's some, it's five into six.
There's some jeans that are just torn to shit.
And those are personal jeans.
Yeah, girl.
Because, like, jeans that someone else buys you are not the same as the jeans that you buy yourself.
Mm-hmm.
And I loved our costume designer so much.
And she just, anytime I would wear something to work, Carol would be like, hey, can we just have that?
Yeah.
Let's just do this.
Let's put you in that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah.
So, yeah, all the roughneck shit was mine.
I think we have time for one last question, baby.
I do, too.
Oh, this is interesting.
Anne asks, I've noticed that the music seemed to change after Peyton and Lucas left
Tree Hill. Did Hillary have any
input as to the type of music Peyton
listened to and played in her scenes?
Or did they just bring in a different
music coordinator? Did it
change? I don't
no.
It's actually really interesting.
I've never thought about it in that way because
I think the music
industry in general was going through
a shift in 2009.
Like sounds were changing,
things were shifting.
but I don't I don't know I mean I I assumed we still had the same team
putting our music together but what you're saying is that it was cooler when I was there
well obviously much always but yeah I like I don't know if maybe he decided he
I don't know maybe he wasn't spending money on it anymore
You know what I mean?
Like we were definitely spending money on it when I was there.
And I know that money was like a big conversation for all the different departments.
Our writers have spoken about it.
You know, we've spoken about it.
And so anytime you cut money from one department and it goes into someone else's pocket, you know, who knows.
But it costs money to have great music on a show.
And we were so lucky working with Warner Brothers because they had a record label that we could always just kind of tap in.
to um so i can't speak for what happened after i left but i do know that being someplace like
warner brothers and having access to great artists was a part of the job that i particularly
enjoyed like it was cool to be a vj and then essentially just get to be a vj on our show yeah yeah
that was amazing well clearly your musical taste was missed um not just by me but by anne and everyone
else. Well,
Anne, I appreciate
you. I appreciate all of
these questions. They were very good
questions. These are good questions.
Yeah. Into it.
So you guys, join us next week.
As always, Drama Queens, we're going to bring
you some drama and some flavor.
And hopefully, some sick tunes.
We'll think of some great tunes for you next week.
I love it. Thanks, y'all.
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We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.
We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl.
Dramatic for the right team.
Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl.
You could sit with us, girl.
Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.
It may look different, but Native Culture is alive.
My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop.
That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop.
Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges.
Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
This is an IHeart podcast.