Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (part 38)

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

The Drama Queens are spilling the tea this episode by revealing their worst dates, what cocktail reminds them of their OTH days and which special scripts they have kept throughout the years. Plus, Rob confesses why he's holding a grudge against Sophia! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.

Friends and listeners, welcome to a Q&A. I know we do this very excitedly for us because you all send us such good questions, but I'm the most excited, and I want to give Robert Buckley his flowers because nearly every question in our Q&A is from somebody with a nickname. Yeah, I just saw that. Way to go, people. You've crushed it, Rob. Oh, man.

I like it. I mean, listen, we got some. some great ones. And we also have some people with just some regular government names. So there's room for improvement, gang. There is. There is. But, you know, it's something I think we can build into. It's not dissimilar to, you know, the energy around the holidays where people are like, what are your traditions? And it turns out the traditions of drama queens are to build code names. Yes. Thank you for this contribution, Rob. I think we really needed this. We did. If this is all that I end up contributing to the podcast, and let's be honest,

It very well may be. I would consider it a win. It feels a lot like when you came to join us on the show. Like we were seven seasons in and we didn't even realize what we needed until you got there. And we were like, yes. That's right. You charmer. Turn it up and making things better all the time.

And then you shot me and put me in a coma. Thanks, game. Listen, not the call of anyone on this Zoom. This is true. You did great. This is true. How are you guys doing? Good.

Joy, where are you? You're traveling. I'm in New York. You're home in Portland, right? And so where are you at? I'm on my way to the airport. I'm heading to Paris. Oh, darling.

Oh, hello. I don't know why we both just like lent into our English accents, even though I'm going to France, but it's fine. It's because it's continental. You know, it just feels exciting to go to Europe. I'm hoping that I have, I want it to just feel a little bit like a Netflix Christmas movie, you know. Like, I really hope that on one of the two days I have in town that I'm off, it snows, and I can, like, walk through the streets of Paris with a crepe and a place and just feel like I'm in a rom-com. I would love that.

Yeah. Send me that picture so I could live vicariously through it. I want to see you on a Parisian street with hopefully some holiday lighting behind you. and then you can pick the dessert, crepe, chiro, whatever you're in the mood for, corn dog, if they serve them there. Listen, if I could get a corn dog in Paris, I would probably spontaneously combust from the excitement.

Jenny is like, why are you smiling? And I'm like, I just have a feeling somewhere in the world Sophia is eating a corn dog. I can't explain it. Can you imagine they started selling corn dogs at the Eiffel Tower? It's just like, this is just the official epitome of American culture They're like, we give in. You're all coming here for the Eiffel Tower.

Here's your corn dogs. Here's what I will tell you. And Rob and I were texting about this. I had a major friend fail recently because the corn dogs at Disneyland are famous. And I went to Disneyland. And I did this not once but twice. We went for Jenny's birthday. And then I was telling Rob how good the corn dogs were.

He said, how dare you not send me a photo? I said, you're right. And then I went back. And I don't know what happens to me. I get near that breaded dog and it's like I black out and I ate it. And then I was looking at my empty little stick and I was like, I did it again. Two times this year I have not sent Rob a photo. I have failed.

So if I find a corn dog in Paris, I'm going to send you multiple photos. I would appreciate that because we spoke ahead of time. I specifically said, please send me a pick of you eating a corn dog. and a churro would be a bonus picture. Not only did I not get a single picture from you. But then two days later, you sent me a text asking me for something. And I was like, how dare you? Okay, it was your address to send you a gift.

Still a big ask. But yes, you're right. It's like a blackout. And I am an adult woman who should be able to do this. And it's like I'm incapable. I lose all self-control. But as someone who also blacks out, around their favorite foods.

I totally get it. No judgment. Thank you. I think you should just lean into it and start sending him photos of the empty stick. The empty stick. Oh, just as a tongue.

So cold. So cold. Shall we get into the questions game? I really think we should, especially because the first one is about food. Rob, take it away. Listen, what better way to kick it off

than with a question from Lil Pants. Well done, Lil Pants. You guys have mentioned the Great British Bake Off on multiple occasions recently. So, I wanted to know if you were a contestant, what would your ideal bake

that you think you could earn, what would be your ideal bake that you think you could earn a prestigious Hollywood handshake with? Ooh. For those who don't watch the show, there is a judge, Paul Hollywood, and on rare occasions,

when a dish is exceptional, he shakes the hand of the contestant, has become this coveted thing, you got a Hollywood handshake. That's right. This question is really for you, Joy, because I think you are the best baker. I don't want to, you correct if I'm wrong, so if I just feel like she's probably the best baker, the three of us, right? Absolutely.

No, you're correct. I don't know. I feel like I'm a really good decorator of baked goods. Like if you give me cake and fondant and all the tools for, like, if I could just walk in to a, one of those steel blocks, like steel butcher blocks, you know, and have all the things laid out for me, the icings and the tops of the icings that make the different shapes and all. Like I probably design something really, really beautiful.

I feel confident in my sculpting abilities. But my baking, baking is so much chemistry. And I get things wrong all the time. And it's like one little, you know, you add a little too much egg or a little too much flour, baking soda. and it ruins the whole thing. And I like to be whimsical when I bake and I don't love following recipes.

So often I just get lost in my whimsy and then I'll end up with a baked good that's not terribly delicious. It's not bad, but it's like, oh, it could be better. But I'll tell you what, I did once make an olive oil bun cake. It was like an orange rosemary olive oil bun cake that was covered in this this crystallized rosemary sugar orange peel marmaladey thing all over the top of it.

And it was so delicious. And I have had friends ask me for it for the recipe for it. One of them, I think, baked it for their wedding cake. It's a really, really good cake. So I would say that might be my move. I was going to say, I think cake week would be your best opportunity to. shine. Yeah, which is weird because I don't like cake. Like, I don't really eat cake, but I don't either. Yeah, I can't, I can't really make anything else. I don't eat, I don't make

pie. I don't make cookies. Do you guys bake at all? What do you make? I, funnily enough, I, when I applied for college, I also applied to the pastry program at the Culinary Institute of America. What? And I got in, and I, but it was very expensive. So I applied, I entered this contest for a scholarship. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or I'm being entirely serious. I'm being entirely serious. And I had the chef from the restaurant I was working at, help me. And we did a Grandpa Smith's Prohibition Apple Pie.

And I didn't win, though, so I didn't get any scholarship. And I remember I looked and it was going to be 30 grand a year to go to culinary school or like 12 grand a year to go to UC San Diego. And I thought, I should probably just try college. Because what if I spend 30 grand a year to find out I just like eating food? So that was the start and the end of my baking. career. You are blowing my mind right now. Same. Also, I'm like, did you write that recipe down? Because much like Joy, I'm not, I'm a great cook. Cooking is very emotional and you rely on like

feeling, taste, give it a shot, add a little here, do it. You have to trust, trust yourself. baking is so scientific and yeah i always think baking again going back to the the paris in the snow i pray moment like baking in my brain looks like the holiday movie that's so cute and the family's in the kitchen and there's like powdered sugar flying through the air that's not what it is it's so stressful and specific and scientific and it's not my skill set though i wish it were but you Pastry, I'm having a hard time getting my words together. You've blown my mind that that is a niche for you. But in a way, it makes sense, right? And that's why I'm kind of surprised that there isn't a part of you that's drawn to pastry because one thing that is great about pastry is

it is its math. It is precision. It is calculated control. So there is a part of my brain that really likes knowing there is no guesswork. This isn't a taste and maybe a pinch more. It is three quarters of a cup. It is one eighth of a teeth. You know what I mean? Like, Wow. There is that part of my brain that loves black and white structure. I get that? Yeah, there's no guesswork there. So are you baking at home?

No, literally the last thing I baked was that pie. No. Jenny's an amazing baker, so I've just never, there's never been like any slack to pick up in the family, and I've just kind of lazily been like, you're great, keep crushing. Wow. But think about it's a good thing I didn't win that scholarship because we probably would not have met had I'd gotten it and gone to Hyde Park, New York to basically spend a lot of money to find out I probably just like eating food.

That's a big investment just to find out you actually just like eating. I guess if you didn't really pursue it, if it's not something that's stuck with you as like, I still do it in my spare time. I love it. I have to be in the kitchen regardless of whether I'm at school or whatever. I mean, really, that's the last thing you baked and you're like, never mind. So I guess it's just as well. It would keep coming back to haunt you.

if it was something that you really were meant to pursue, I guess. Exactly. There has been not a single moment of regret or what if, which tells me I made the right call. Absolutely. I mean, it's like sometimes it feels silly to repeat cliches, but I think cliches become cliches because they're so true for so many people, that phrase, nothing that's meant for you will miss you.

It's like, if it's missed you ever since, like, then it wasn't meant for you. Yeah. And that's kind of nice. But it's also funny that what I did choose was to get a degree in economics that I used for precisely 1.5 years and then quit to join the circus. It's kind of like either way, you're not going to end up using these long-term buddies. So just pick the cheaper one. Yeah. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that. culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a kind of two years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern

world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In Nebraska. Oh, I like it. It sort of sounds like you've got mail. The scripts, are you allowed to keep them? Do you keep them? Do you just toss them when you're done? Do you keep ones that are special to you and you're part? I kept a lot of my scripts. I mean, not everyone. That's a lot of scripts. Yeah. I did keep some special ones. Same. I mean, you guys know me. I'm so sentimental. Like, I'll open a suitcase and be like, oh, dear God, it's filled with like scripts, sides,

concert tickets like I need this to go somewhere but I've been squirreling away memories in it so I am working on kind of you know filtering through those things I same I've saved certain scripts like I have the the script for episode 101 that I started in on our show with all my notes in it I kept most of our season finale scripts I normally keep a script you know some version whether it's in the middle or the last from every film I've done. Now I use that app scriptation. Do you guys use that on your iPad? Oh my God. Scriptation changed my life on Good Sam because having to transfer copious notes and medical definitions and phonetic pronunciation like that I would have to do. With every new script. With every new draft and every new page literally made me want to sob. And scriptation is a digital

it's a digital script on your you get an iPad and you can make notes you can do them in all sorts of different colors you can add stickies so you can like you know for I don't know it's something like paracardial centesis needle I could like copy an image of what that was from Google and literally put it in a virtual post-it note on the script and then every time you get marigold pages or a new draft you click combine and it transfers all your notes over And if any scenes have been omitted, it just deletes those notes. And, like, it literally changed my life. Wow.

And then so in kind of a nice way, now I have every script, but they only take up the width of an iPad, which is cool. Weirdly, I find that I like to keep a couple pairs of sides from things because everybody's stuff is on it. And years ago, actually, I tried to start this thing. you know, because I remember how much fans used to love to come to our set in particular and get our sides and ask us

to sign them because crew would give them to people like out on Front Street or whatever. And I was like, we could do something really cool and I'll hit up all my friends and anytime somebody does a really nice thing and can like share it, can send it to us, this was back when Twitter was Twitter, we'll send out a signed copy of sides to people

just for fun. And the network I was working on at the time literally was like that is an absolute violation. legally you can't do that. Their production office phone numbers are on. They went so ballistic. They made me take the Twitter down. I was like, oh my God, I was trying to do this like really nice thing

because all these people I know are in the circus and they were like, don't you dare give sides away. And I really got reprimanded for it. So I have this like envelope of sides from our shows and other people's shows who like sent them to me for this thing. But then I was like, I guess I should shred these. So I don't get sued? Like, I don't know.

It made me really scared. I haven't thought about that in a long time either, but clearly I'm a hoarder of script pages of every variety. Are you sentimental like that, Rob, or no? I used to be where I would save scripts. Funny, I did the same thing with Sides. I remember there was a specific project I worked on, and it was the first time where, like, the script was in, it was not television, right? And I had mostly done television in my career, which they don't, generally, they don't encourage ad-libbing and rewriting um and this wasn't and it was in the script was not in the best shape and it was the first

time where i started like rewriting and pitching stuff and it actually ended up like being what we used and i remember i saved the sides because it was like the first time i got to feel like i was collaborating and i was so proud of myself so those i kept for a long time but no like you know because also as a parent and moving i just it's like when you're trying to load up an entire house and there's just a box of scripts I haven't looked at in three years. It was like, okay, I can let, I can let this go. You know, so nowadays, no. Like you, though, I have a digital app that I sort of have them all,

if I ever wanted to revisit them. Yeah. Yeah, at some point it just becomes paper that's just taking up space in your house. And it's like I like knowing that it's there just for this sort of hoarding comfort sense. I don't know what it is, but I like knowing that it's in a drawer, but what am I ever going to do with it? Like you, so if I have a bunch of sides, that I was going to send out and then realize there were a bunch of phone numbers and stuff

on them. I was like, well, how long do I wait? Do I just wait for like five years? And I've got a file cabinet full of sides from our show that I, a lot of stuff I kept for the sake of auctioning. Like I've got a bunch of DVDs and, you know, wardrobe pieces and stuff. And I'm like, you know, things will come up and somebody wants an item for charity and I'll sign it and send it off. But I don't do it. I, you know, I also hate the post office. So I don't do it as as I mean to but it's nice to have them around you said it exactly right

it's the knowing they're there which I think is like the beginning of the hoarder trap because I have three boxes of eye zombie cereal in our guest closet right now and about once a year Jenny's like are you ready to throw these out? I'm like absolutely not

no because what if I want to send one exactly like you said you know but what if but what if? By the way what you should do is take one of them and you know be really careful when you open the title. Is there actual cereal in it? It's just, okay.

Or you could leave it in there, I guess. But I would take one to a great framer and have it framed in like a shadow box. So it could be mounted, you know, some sort of like cool textured linen, you know, background or whatever. Great idea. And then like put it in, you know, wherever you have a version of like a gallery wall or behind your desk or some sort of officey space. like that is such a cool piece of memorabilia to have for you and eventually for the kids and stuff but yeah like three of them in the dark upper closet shelf you're like what am I what am doing with that do you guys know okay so so concert artists I know this because a friend of mine who's

a stylist also runs a housing business for artists like musicians um outfits like things that they wore on stage for award shows or whatever, that they just don't have room in their closet for every special thing that they've worn on stage at all these different events over the years. And so she's got this super secure warehouse where people send their artists will send their items when they're done to the concert tour. And it just goes, you know, I mean, Taylor Swift's got when it's in an airplane hangar, I think in Nashville. But somebody maybe already does or should do this for actors who want to save their stuff

for the sake of like auctioning it off to charity because if we all just sign a bunch of stuff and then send it in to somebody who would keep it in a warehouse and send it off whenever there's like oh hey there's a charity blah blah blah needs this can you send it off we give them the address and they do it for us

like I pay a monthly fee to house a little cubicle of my memorabilia sure and if it were a big enough warehouse the fee per person would be so minimal. Yeah. But it would be very, that could be like a cool kind of collaborative thing. It's a niche business.

Have you noticed every time the three of us get on a Q&A, we always have at least one random business idea? Yeah. This generally is like the third or fourth business idea. It's true. We've had to cut some out of the show because we're like, wait, that's a great idea. Don't tell anyone about it. We've actually done that, listeners.

We've actually cut stuff out of the show because we thought maybe we do that. Maybe we do that one. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a kind of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose. confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native

showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream listen to burn sage burn bridges on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts shafali i was asking what's the best date you've ever had and the worst okay i know one of my worst i was in college and god everything i talk about revolves around food that's so

That's so raven. Anyways, we're on a date, and I'm kind of broke, but we go to this nice Italian restaurant, and I'm excited because obviously I love food, and I'm very excited about this gal I'm on the date with. We get our food, and she had got lobster ravioli, and she went to one ravioli, and she halved it, and then she quartered it, and she had two bites, aka half of a ravioli, and she was like, I'm stuffed. and I remember in that moment just thinking this will never work this is the last time we're going to see each other

because I can't be with someone who just doesn't eat and doesn't like food I remember just sitting there the rest of the time it was like I was seven minutes into the date going oh farts I love that swing and a miss yeah how about y'all I have a one that's really not great

it was actually in the early years of our show um sorry for the pause i'm figuring out how to tell the story without revealing who it's about but i i was sent a script by someone in our industry that i really respect and it was fabulous and you know my god i know the story joy knows the story and the feedback was you know, you met this person, you know, writer, producer, actor, award winner, and they want to know if you're interested in like, you know, playing this sort of like amazing, like wild child in this movie. And I was like, yeah, totally tracks. Brooke Davis at this point was still kind of a wild child. Great. And I read it. And I was like, oh, my God, this is like, oh, my God. This is like someone who made me want to be an actor. Like, oh, my God. I can't wait. And I remember driving to the meeting. I had to fly to L.A. And I had to like, you know, go for this like late lunch meeting because they had something at noon. So we were going to meet it to at this very famous restaurant in Malibu because it was like, you know, near their fancy house. And it was a Friday.

And so like, listen, they don't do Friday afternoon meetings, but get that you're on a show. And this is the one day you have off for, you know, the next three episodes or whatever. So this is how we're going to make it work. And I was like, totally. I like thought nothing of it. So I get out there and I'm like talking to my best friend on the way. And I'm like, how do I like be cool, but be excited, but not be too excited. And like, what do I?

I've made notes through the whole script, things to talk about character beats, all the things, you know. And I get out there and it's, you know, so sorry. The noon was at universal and now coming from the valley to Malibu is taking forever. You know, this person will be there at three. And I was like, okay. And then at like 250, I get a phone call from, you know, the agent's assistant on the desk being like, traffic's really bad you're so lucky you went out there early to like make sure you were on time looking like maybe 345 anyway you get the story it pushes and it pushes and it pushes and it pushes and

it's 530 and then this person walks in almost at six oh my gosh by the way that's not just traffic no he was that's the terrible uh-huh and says i've kept you here all day i am so sorry my apologies we're pitching this other film we're so excited about um unfortunately just you know guys my age in it, you know, if there was a role in it, I would have had them send it to you so you could read it while you were waiting. But let's talk about this one. And since I've kept you waiting, let me buy you dinner. And I was like, I just got date napped. I am on a fucking date that I didn't agree to go on with someone that until this moment, I have literally respected for like my whole life. And now I'm stuck here. And what do I do? And it was such a bummer.

But now is like a pretty hilarious story. How was the dinner? I mean, did you like, was it interesting at least? Or was it? I had fish. It was lovely. Was this guy even trying to make it a business meeting? Or was it clear he was just trying to now have a date?

It became like pretty clear because there was definitely a like, here's, you know, this was still when our agents were sending us physical scripts. And I was like, okay, well, here's my script and here's my notes and I have questions. and then these are my thoughts. And, you know, I know you, obviously, you know, you co-wrote it. And if you don't want thoughts, but you just want questions, let me know, like trying to be kind of funny. And the immediate response was, we'll get to that. Like, how are you?

And then commentary was made about what this person knew about what had been going on in my life that was, you know, very public and sad at the time. And my favorite line was, you know, well, you know you can't date men your own age. they're all useless idiots and I was like oh my god I was like I gotta get out of here like bro you you're not like old enough to be my dad but you're way closer in age to my dad than than I am so I'm gonna have to leave yeah gross but he also wasn't wrong let's be honest guys guys that age generally have their heads up there but turns out in our mid 20s yes you all are very stupid and then you grow out of it and look at what charmers you are now I adore you all but my gosh God, I was just like, how long do I have to stay here not to get like blacklisted, but how quickly can I leave? Yeah. Those situations are the worst. It's so, so uncomfortable. It's easier now that I'm older, obviously. But yeah, when you're young, you don't know what the, what are the rules of play. How do I? And that's kind of what that personality banks on is you being uncomfortable and not knowing what to do and being like a deer in the headlights. It's so gross.

Well, by the way, go ahead, Rob. As you can say, the audacity and the stupidity of going, yeah, you know, probably the best way to kick off a date is to keep her waiting for about three to four hours. That's a power play, right? That's the power play. Yeah, it isn't. And it's to see how much you'll put up with ahead of time. Yeah, and that was the interesting thing for me.

Looking back, I realize, you know, and we were doing this all the time. I mean, you know, Joy and I, everybody, especially in the early days of the show, you had to fly everywhere for a meeting. And it's like, you know, I flew out from Wilmington on the 5.30 a.m. flight. Like, it was a whole thing. And I was like, well, I flew all the way here. I took two planes. I came here for this meeting.

Like, I'm going to have this meeting. It could be a really big deal. And, you know, somebody with an iconic filmography that I really, again, respect. And then it was like, oh, I have to do. two things at once. I have to be bummed as a human that this is what's happening. And on the other side, I have to figure out how to sort of strategically make my boundaries very clear, but also not risk like a she's terrible or difficult or whatever story permeating an industry from someone where there's such a power imbalance. So it was like a really, it was kind of a curious thing. And I look

back now and like yeah now like this version of me i'd be like you fucking for real i'm living but at the time i had to sort of try to figure out what i could say and what i couldn't and um sort of shoot the shit about you know the movie i'd just made and the movie i knew they'd just made and then of course when like should we get around to drinks i was like oh i live like really far from here and i drove so no like i don't i don't drink and drive that's a that's a big no no for me and at least I had the wherewithal to like not say I'm not going to have drinks with you dude

but to be like I'm not going to have drinks with you sir father figure like goodbye gross gross wow that's a bad date it also like the the lore of it is quite funny and there are details

that Joy knows which I'll tell you offline Rob that are so ridiculous so it is one of those things where like in my group of friends someone will go on a bad date and be like, but you didn't get date napped by and like fill in the blank and everybody laughs. Like it's given to us for 20 years. Oh yeah. It's one of those stories that like when you write a memoir eventually and everyone is year old and it doesn't matter. Yes, that's where it's going. I'll be like, let me tell you who it was. It'll be great. I can't wait to find out. Joy,

do you want to jump in on this bad date train? Oh, yeah. I mean, I've had a few bad dates. I didn't, I didn't date a lot because, you know, I kind of got married right away and then like afterward was I I was pretty in monogamous relationships. I don't have a ton of bad dates. One bad date I had while I was in a relationship, I went we went to a friend's birthday dinner at one of those restaurants where they waiters sing and my my date was drinking heavily as per yuge and um really, really. really wanted me to get up and sing a duet with one of the waiters. So he's like trying to crawl in the wall. No, no, I have to fix my hair, even though it's messy.

I need to touch something. I want to die. So good. And I, I didn't mind. I thought I was like, I mean, sure, whatever. Like, it's, it was a casual environment. It's like, yeah, this would be fun. So he's like, I'm going to go talk to the, I'm going to go talk to the guy playing the piano

and tell him, what song do you want to sing? And I was like, whatever, if he wants to do something, I'd be happy to. but there's, I mean, we're here for my friend's birthday. But it was like a big casual thing. So like, I was, whatever. Anyway, so he goes up there and the guy says, oh, we don't, it's really just the staff here that sing. And I was like, thumbs up, great. Let's get back to dinner.

And he got really insistent, like, no, no, you got to hear her sing. Like, she's got to say. And I was like, no, dude, like, we're here for our friend's birthday dinner. Just sit down. Let's just enjoy our dinner. And the waiter comes over and he, he starts. starts arguing with the waiter and the waiter's like, I don't, I mean, it's fine. I'll, I'll sing with her. I was like, I don't want to sing. I don't, I'm not, it's fine. Let's just

eat our pasta. It's good. And he stands up and starts yelling at the waiter in the middle of this whole restaurant. Like, you could hear a pin drop. Everybody in the restaurants gets quiet and we're just listening to him like, berate this poor waiter about not letting me sing with him. And I was like, oh my God, I want to crawl into a hole. Everybody at the table is just like, hey, man, sit down. I'm like, we're all, it's all good. It's all good. And, you know, of course, we went, I went to check on the waiter and left me, we all left him a big tip. But it was like, that was one of those moments where you're just like, what am I doing here? Why? Why am I here? What is this in life? The, the when you go up on the ceiling and you're like, how has it gotten here? Yeah. How did it get away from me and now we're here? How is this a part of any day in my life? I'm not understanding. where this came from, or I guess I knew where it came from.

I just didn't know I had made allowances for so many little things to the point where now we're here. Yeah, so that was a bad date night. All of a sudden, two bites of ravioli isn't looking so bad. I'm glad I went first because I certainly couldn't follow either of those. All right, let's line the mood with old Brandon's question. I'm sure it's Brandon, but your nickname should have been. in there. He calls himself the Don

for short. He asks who would win in an arm wrestling contest, Rob, Chad, or James? I can give you a definitive answer. James would win. Yeah. And then it would be Chad and I in the losers bracket and we would get so lost in each other's eyes

that it would be a tie. Okay. Yeah, nobody else can answer that except you. You asked, Brandon. You asked. There you go. All right. Definitively. I like the button on it, Rob. It's very good. I can see that.

I can see how, like, James has a switch flip thing where he can, it's like, when he's decided he's going to do something and commit to it and go for it, I think there's like just absolutely no chance he doesn't succeed at whatever that is. And so I think if he decided in that moment, I don't know. Is it like psychological warfare?

It's like, he's kind of built like Superman, you know? I just feel like he's. He's not just vanity strong. He's just strong, strong. And he's not even a dad yet. His strength is going to be something out of this world. But he's just a very strong guy.

That's true. Yes. It's like, you know how people in cold weather are just different? Like lumberjacks in the Arctic are just a different breed. Yes. Just different. Yes. Yes.

That is James is the Hollywood equivalent of that. Mandy asks an interesting question. I'm just going to jump back in here again. She said, is there a reason that only certain members of the cast? have nicknames, i.e. junk, mouth, furgy, skills. What nickname would you give Clay, Brooke and Haley? Well, Haley has Tudor Girl pointed by Brooke. Yes, thank you.

I like Jaley when you went to jail. Yeah, I like that too. Oh, that was fun. I forgot about that, yes. When Brooks' parents went broke in high school, everyone called her Broke Davis, which was sad, but it was a nickname. I was going to say given the last episode we watched, which is close of her bros getting in financial trouble and Brooke getting arrested.

I was thinking we could just change Brooke to Crook. Hey. Crook Davis. Yeah, I... What is Clay? What's Clay's nickname? I feel like I was thinking, like, something along the lines of memento or like Dr. Forgetful,

I feel like that's... Goldfish? Goldfish, sure. Goldfish is good. I feel like we need to circle the amnesia part of it. Yeah, goldfish. Okay. I'm in.

Allie wants to know what your top three favorite shows are. Like of all time? Oh. Today, though, your favorite all time shows today. Wait, what do you mean? It's the way of hedging your bets, right? Where it's like, what's your favorite food? And that's an impossible question.

I freeze up. So I answer and I go, today my favorite food is because it's me giving my brain the out that you're allowed to change this at a different time. Got it. Mad Men, Friends, Game with Friends. Ooh, good. Okay. I mean, Orphan Black will always be in my top. As of today, I just binged the first three episodes of The Madness with Coleman Domingo. And I have not seen a show that good in years. I am beside myself. Oh, this is so hard.

what else what have I been watching I've been watching I've been watching something on HBO and I can't think of what it is this is it these questions are too high pressure for me and my brain goes blank

okay I'm gonna buy you a moment you go you go buy me a minute Patriot I love the Patriot oh I love Patriot it's such a great show Arrested development to be fair though like

specifically seasons one through three especially yes yeah And, oh, man, it's tough. I'd say 30 Rock. Oh, my God. Iconic. You know what?

In the comedy vein? Yes. Oof. In the third spot, I think I'd actually have to give a tie. It would tie for me between Veep and Parks and Rec. Ooh, yeah. Great choices. So genius.

So genius. So genius. Rob, I started watching Detroiters on your recommendation. What'd you think? I really like it. It's great. So good. Really great.

I was, I mean, the episode where they're trying to break the glass window, the glass window, and I'm still in the beginning, but I was laughing my ass off. It was like late at night in bed and I'm just crying laughing. I love that. That would make my short list as well. Yeah. All right. That's great.

That feels fun. I want to ask this question because we all, we've bonded over many and made many for one another. Michaela, let's call her little Michaela. We're just going to keep it going. wants to know what cocktail reminds you of your OTH days. I was a wine drinker back then. I wasn't drinking a lot of liquor. Were you guys?

Yeah. I would go for wine, and I feel like we've talked about this. We all really got to learn a lot about wine, thanks to Paul. And Hank at Deluxe. That was always so nice. But when we were shooting One Tree Hill, it was when I started to get really into old fashions. And my sort of favorite, like, ha-ha moment at a bar was always ordering an old-fashioned.

And, like, you know, some golf dad would be like, who's that for? And I'd be like, me. It's for me. And it always felt so nice. Yeah, when you're like 22, you're like, look and look what an unexpected girl I am. I'm 26, and I'm drinking a 62-year-old man's drink, and I like that about myself. Yeah. I, season nine, Stephen.

Kaletti and I discovered the Jameson pickleback, which is a shot of Jameson and a shot of pickle juice. This is not good. And here's the weirdest thing. It tastes like a McDonald's hamburger. I can't explain it. And we went so hard that we would just, there was a couple of bars that we went to were like, guys, we're out of pickle juice. Like you, they're like, please leave us alone.

Yeah. So that's, that would be my, my nostalgia. It's kind of genius, I think, in terms of not making the. the pickle juice being such a hydrator that it's not going to the alcohol maybe doesn't have the same effect as it would if you were just taking it straight right i don't know if that chemistry checks out isn't apple juice highly sodium content isn't there a massive yeah but it's like electrolytes it's all it's like athletes will drink pickle juice or pickle water or whatever are you telling me we were actually just really taking good care of ourselves with all of those

Yes, this is top-tier health. I did remember reading something because Jenny Smart is also a real fan of a pickleback. I personally am not, but that was also her jam in our Willington days. I remember forwarding her the little video clip about it. Pickle juice does something like really incredible. I think it can stop a migraine maybe. I'm going to need to Google this. But it was something that when I saw, you know, some person talking about it online, I was like, do you know about this? Is this why you're healthy? So there is something, too, what you're saying, Joy. Pickle juice does something for folks.

Well, vinegar is great. Vinegar is so great for you. Except it, I'm thinking about it. I have cravings. I totally have pickle juice cravings. I just go in the fridge and I'll just like drink a little out of pickle jar. Go on, Joy. Well, listeners, you heard it here first, the John McQueen's and the medical community. encourage you to drink your pickle juice. Everyone except for me, I'm trying not to throw up. But I love it for all of you. Congratulations. I'll be in the corner with my whiskey and a little sugar cube. Yeah.

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