Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (part 49)

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

In this fun Q&A episode, Rob and Sophia chat about their go-to café orders, their shared love of rom-coms, and who they'd cast as their long-lost siblings on One Tree Hill. Sophia shares heartfelt stories about summer camp adventures, and they spill on some unforgettable audition fails that still make them cringe!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's start the episode with this. Sophia just told me, hi, you have Rob and Sophia, and as we typically do, we're going to talk about food for a moment. No, you and you? Yeah, you just said you have a Klondike bar off camera. My question is, are you not worried about it melting? I mean, I am. I'm really watching it. Full transparency, you have eaten half of it already.

But a Klondike bar is a large, better than an ice cream sandwich, ice cream sandwich-esque food. Can you show me? I know the audience can't see this. So, see, I cut it like a sandwich in four. So I make four smaller squares. Of course you do. So that when I'm holding it in my hand, it doesn't turn into an even messier version of this. I see.

So I can eat the first two when it's still very solid, but then the other two haven't been affected by my body heat. Can I say I feel like this little moment in time is a very good picture of you. to me, you, because you brought a tasty treat to work, but you also took the time to quarter it very precisely so as to minimize mess. Thank you. Yes. That's a lot of you captured in a very small circumstance. It is. And you know what's really funny about this? Two nights ago, I, well, who knows when it was when this will air, but two nights ago in real time,

I went to see the American Ballet Theater in New York, and it was so beautiful, and it was like a black tie fundraiser, and I got in the car with all of our friends, and they were like, you do not have a pizza wrapped in paper towels. And I was like, of course I do. I had made a pizza because the schedule of the day was weird, and I was hungry, but it was one of those, like, long flatbreads. And I had done a version of this where I'd cut it into really thin strips so that I could eat them in the car without screwing. up my lipstick. And I was like, that is a set trick. To not screw up your makeup while eating any messy food. You learn that in our business. And I didn't realize how weird it was to everyone else. But I was like, yeah, anytime we had to shoot a prom or a wedding or anything, we were snacking the whole time. So you get good at this. This is why you are a professional's professional.

You know, it's not the dialogue. I'll know mine and yours. It's really, it's the clean snacking. Yep. It's that you, you don't know as the viewer that she was just eating a mouth full of almonds right before they yelled action, which, by the way, I recently realized, because you know, almonds are always on set. They are one of the worst things. Terrible idea. Totally going to get stuck in your teeth. Yes, always. And because their little, um, their little skin is dark brown. Yeah. It just looks like you have a dirty mouth. Yeah. Like you just took a handful of dirt. between takes and we're like, eh, give this a shot. Yeah. All right. Well, now that we've done, you know, I hope that someone is listening and has a stopwatch and is just maybe keeping track of like the content that is food and isn't food so we can get a breakdown of how much we make it about food.

I really would love to know. There's probably some AI program that can analyze that for us, but also it would, you know, probably use the water of three Olympic swimming pools. So I don't know that that's the best use of such a technology. It's like let it screen for cancer, but I would love if somebody would just tell us, especially when it's me and you, how much are we talking about food? I also do have to offer you an apology. I'm realizing in real time that if I'd been really on top of it this morning, I would have sent you Klondike bars on Instacart. And it's like in my bones, it's so painful that I didn't think of it.

until this moment. It's okay. Honestly, it's probably for the best because then it might have just derailed the whole operation. I mean, I don't even have one here, and I've already made the first five minutes of this all about the conduct bar. That's okay. Well, listen, this is the perfect segue.

Thank you, Beefy D, for teeing us off. The question is, you're at Karen's Cafe. What's your go-to order? I do have a question for you. So, saying as how my character never went to Karen's and also me in real life, I've never watched any episodes that have Karens. Yeah. What's the vibe?

What kind of food are we talking? It's a great question because the food was really like window dressing in that set. When it was a cafe before and Haley worked there, I remember the pastry boxes, you know, those sort of like lucite boxes with croissants and cookies and things on the counter because that was always where people would pay for their coffee. it was rare that anyone ever ordered a pastry and then when Haley was waiting tables and she would like drop off food I don't know it always looked like a sandwich and chips or maybe a breakfast of sorts

I feel like I can't believe I don't remember when it circles back around in season nine I have no idea since we haven't watched it yet what if any menu we ever see but I'm like to be safe, I probably would order a classic turkey sandwich with mayo, light onions, and see if they

could toast it for me. Because usually a cafe has a griddle in the back. And I want my bread just a little crispy. Yeah. You want the roof of your mouth. Yes. Injured, but not out of commission. Exactly. I want it to hurt just enough to know I had a great sandwich, but not be burnt by, say, a too hot piece of pizza. Yep. It's a fine line. It is a fine line. What do you think is yours? Just a, let's call it a very traditional every town cafe. My immediate thought was, give me a club sandwich with some fries.

Can't go wrong. Especially if you get a little ranch on the side to, you know, let those fries take a swim. Come on. Especially when you get a club, like it's not the kind of sandwich you could ever have delivered, right? Because it would get soggy. When you get a club at a great restaurant and you know they had it in the toast. until it was perfectly brown and they did not

smush it together on those toothpicks until right before they delivered it to your table. So good. What are you a fan of on a club because you can go chicken or you can go turkey? What would your preference be?

It's going to be turkey because of the nature of turkey because it's flat. It's just an easier to eat meat. You know what I mean? Like typically if I have my choice between chicken and turkey, it's going to be chicken.

But on that sandwich where I'm trying to not have it turn into a bowl, I'm going to go turkey, you know, given a shape. You? I respect that. There's one restaurant that I love that does a pounded chicken, chicken club. So the chicken's been flattened, and that is my dream. I mean, you know, it's hypothetical here.

So I'm like talking about my dream sandwich. My dream club sandwich is with a pounded chicken breast. But I agree, if that is not an option, I want the turkey. so the consistency stays the same. Are you putting that light onion on your club as well? Or does that stick to just the turkey sandwich? No, that feels like a turkey sandwich thing to me. I mean, I'll take a club as they make it.

I've been to some places where they'll do the pounded chicken and then they also do a little arugula. And I do like that as a surprising addition in a club sandwich as long as it's not too heavy. Because if it's too heavy, then you get a lot of pepper. What about avo? I think about this a lot. Oh, again, avocado in the turkey sandwich, but I would prefer to not have it in a club.

My addition in a club is usually like if they do the fancy version with egg in it, then I like that also. What do you think? Do you go avocado in your club? I kind of feel like the club sandwich, it's like that perfect party where they invited just the right amount of people and just the perfect blend of personalities. And if you brought in just one other person, even if they're cool, but like, it's my friend from work. He's the best. It kind of goofs up the vibe.

I just, I stick with it. Just kind of classical. Like, I love avocado, but no, no, take a break. Take a lap. You're not in this one. You know? Interesting. I like it.

Also, let the record show where 11 minutes deep haven't deviated from food yet. No, I'm proud of us, Rob. And guess what the next question is? I was just about to say, we're really, it's like the new today was just, us and I feel honored. Mm-hmm. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. you carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con

or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, Influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Z. Lusty asks, what is your favorite place to DoorDash food,

and what's your order? Off the top of my head, here in Portland it's there's a place called Blue Star Donuts and they make a mean old fashion donut but then they do different ones like a chocolate

like a devil's food cake glazed old fashioned and I will just like if I really want to party I will just DoorDash and I'll order one of like five or six different kinds of donuts and have a little party wow

yeah oh I like that for you When you say a classic donut, do you mean like just the classic cake, like the caramel-y-colored dough glazed? No, no, I'm saying they're old-fashioned. So it's, you know, they have that old-fashioned shape. They all will have a glaze on them. It's just the inside of like the chocolate one is the devil's food cake dough. They are.

Oh, my God. That sounds so good. Like, listen, you're not walking away from that party without a stomach cake, maybe even a headache. but the ride is worth it, friend. Yeah, it's like, it's worth it. It's the roller coaster aspect. I am a big, kind of depends. So in L.A., my favorite thing to get,

there is in a strip mall in Hollywood, this unbelievable Vietnamese Fah restaurant, and for anyone in Los Angeles, you won't forget it, because it's just called It's Fah. And I found it one day. There's like a CVS, a block away from it, and I was going to pick up an inhaler, you know, asthmatic for life over here.

And I was like, hmm, I'd love some fun. I'm in this sort of weird time zone where like I'm in the neighborhood early and my next meeting doesn't start for half an hour. So I just went in there, sight unseen, and had the best soup. And now when I'm home in L.A., I probably order from that place like minimum twice a week. and then on the East Coast I don't know it's hard it sort of depends on where we are

there's a really good dumpling spot not too far from our place here that I like a lot although I'm getting really into making soup dumplings at home what? Not too oh my God that sounded so much cooler than I am I don't mean by like from scratch I do watch those videos

but there's a there's a really good company, I think it's called Mila, M-I-L-A, and you literally get these like gorgeous frozen bags of dumplings, soup dumplings, like whatever you're into. And in the soup dumpling bags, they have that little no-stick bottom thing for the steamer. So you can make fresh soup dumplings at home and like that. I mean, it just, oh, they're unbelievable. But yeah, I feel like it's a dumpling spot where it's a really good. deli like i grew up going to a lot of delis in new jersey in new york with my grandfather and that kind of classic oh my god like a like a classic capraise sandwich with pastrami on it

love the first meal you and i ever shared was where where cats is deli oh my god of course oh my god in my brain i was like when you got to wilmington where did i take you but our first meal ever yes Oh, my God, I took you for a hot pastrami. That's right. That's right. Oh, it's so good. I could not believe that you had been living and working in New York and had never been there. It was like, oh, my God, it's such a point of pride when I can take somebody to have something so delicious.

Yep. The best. We got to go back. I know you're very much West Coast these days and, you know, about to go to Vancouver for a whole movie. But I need to get you back to New York so we can go. and just like gosh at the deli. Let's work on that. Let's find a way to make that happen.

It feels correct. It does feel correct. Also, I have a breakfast place I need to take you to in the city called. Have you ever been to Russ and daughter? No. Oh, no, I know of it, but I've never been. Oh, my God. It's like some of the best lot because I've ever had in my life.

I've walked past it a million times. I don't know what their sour cream is, but we've got to go. Okay. Sunnyside up egg. Oh. Yeah. All right. Okay. Okay, we've lost the DoorDash plot, but we're back. Julia, aka Goldilocks, asks, if you had to act in one genre and one genre only for the rest of your career, which would you choose?

Mine's a no-brainer. It's comedy. Yeah. I literally just said rom-coms. I'm like, yeah, I want to go to work and have a good time. Yeah. Could you imagine if I was like period dramas? Ew. I would cackle. You're like, I would like to wear a cumberbund. every day. Because I want to learn an accent I suck at. Wear clothes that aren't comfortable and never laugh. That's my nightmare.

I'm set. I think comedy would be super nice. Yeah. Aw, this is so cutie. This is for me. Camp kid! What a nickname. Sophia, you talk all the time

about being a summer camp kid. I too am a camp kid and also a camp counselor. I was wondering what your favorite camp memory is. And did you enjoy counseling or camping more? Oh, this makes me feel so nostalgic. I wouldn't say one more than the other. I think for me, camp was so formative to my life as a young person and learning independence and learning to trust myself and learning the skills that you get there. And then getting to be a camp counselor was cool because, you know, you get into being a teenager, you're a counselor in training, and you're like, yeah, I'm one of the CITs, and you feel

so cool, because you're like, I'm growing up, and I have more responsibility, and like, I'm a trustworthy kid. And then, you know, you kind of go through these stages of your adolescent development in a space that fosters your independence, but is also so safe. And, like, when I think about camp, it's like, it's so pure. And I don't know. I feel nostalgic, really, for all of it. And I think it's such a cool thing that we're all at these stages in our lives now where we all have kids in our lives, right?

Because like, oh my God, what about when they get big enough to go to camp for the first time it makes me want to sob? It'll be so fun. Like, are you prepared to see your little boy like get on the bus to head to camp? I literally have tears in my eyes.

I don't know. We're just now like touring schools and I saw him like run off and playing on the playground by himself or not next to us. And I just put in perspective how little he still is. And he was totally fine without us. And I had one of those moments of like, I'm proud, but I don't know if I'm okay with this. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. One of my friends was just talking about that, like the shift from when she would take her daughter to school and she'd sob like up against the glass. Like, mom, don't leave me here, you know. And then like one day it turned. And she was like, bye, mom. and now she just runs into class and doesn't even say goodbye. And she's like, I'm so proud of her as her mother,

but also as her mother, I'm so wounded. And we were just like, nobody talks about the, or maybe they do, but I guess maybe we're all just at the stage because they're little. But like people don't really talk about that stuff. And then you start to realize everybody's feeling it. And it's so precious. Yeah, our version of that is that our son calls us. this mama and dad-dad and then occasionally though he'll be like can you help me with this dad

I'm like you forgot a vowel you know or he'll do it to Jenny and we'll just like look at each other across the room like oh no is it going to stick and it hasn't yet thankfully because you realize you're like oh the days are numbered of this you know I'm going to be dad real soon forever I remember getting a ping of that actually when we were all shooting together when Brendan Kirsch, who for our friends at home was our basketball coordinator. He's so wonderful. He wound up marrying Lisa Goldstein. And before they got married and started their family, he had had a kid in a previous relationship. He had the cutest little girl, like ever. And his little girl, Gracie, couldn't say my name. She couldn't say SOF. And so when she was a little

kid, she called me soap. She would try to say SOF. And she'd be like, hey soap want to play and all of us were just like she is so she's so precious what are we going to do and one day Brendan brought her to work and she goes hey sof do you want to go to craft service with me and I was like I mean I think she said crafty because she was a baby but the the day she said it I was like oh my god this precious little speech impediment nickname I got by accident from the cutest kid I know is now it's like gone forever it's so crazy the way that you realize you know, time passes by what they can and can't say or what they can and can't do independently.

Oh, it just like tugs on your heartstrings. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred years.

You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. every day native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world

influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream listen to burn sageburn bridges on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts All right, let's do a few rapid fires. Okay, rapid fires. I love it. McFadge asks, if you could cast any actor to play your sibling in One Tree Hill, who would you want to cast? I know the answer to this, Lake Bell. Ooh, okay.

I just love her. I think she's so freaking talented and I would have a ball with her. Okay. I'm going to say Martin Short. Two reasons. One, he's a genius that I just want to meet and hang out with. And two, because I would love the idea of him being just showing up as Clay's brother, but we never reference the fact that they're like 30 years apart from each other.

I literally never even considered something like that. That is such a pro-comedic move and also how blessed would we be to get to hang out with Martin Shore all the time. Dude, he's a legend. Yes. Ooh, Aaron, favorite. Oh, this is sweet. favorite gift you've ever given. On the top of my head, I surprised Jenny for her,

I'm not like a concert guy at all because I don't like big crowds, trapped. It's just a lot. And she's a very big music concert person. And her 40th, I surprised her with great tickets to the, um, uh, Beyonce JZ tour. Oh. Yeah. That's a good gift. You.

Um, Yeah, I think it probably would have been for Ash's birthday last year. So she grew up on Kennedy Space Center and is as obsessed with space as I am. And I don't really know anyone who's as obsessed with space as I am. So that was a pretty cool thing for us to learn about each other. And her birthday happened to coincide with this crazy meteor shower. And so I planned a little getaway. I took her to this, like, amazing camping spot out in Moab to like a dark sky.

place. And to be clear, I didn't, like, throw her in the dirt. It's like a glamping tent situation. It was so beautiful. And what I didn't realize, because I thought it was out of the sky already, is that when we got there, that comet that only comes around once every 80,000 years, you could still see because we were in a dark sky zone. So for four days, we stared at that comet. And I was like, to be alive in this moment. So it was a gift for her, but it also wound up being a gift for me. Sure. It was so cool.

This is a tricky one to answer, like short, but let's be as brief as possible. I know. I'm sorry. We're both so long-winded. I actually selfishly, I just want to know your story. Cam, have you ever completely bombed an audition? What happened and what movie or show was it for? Yes. I mean, yes, but yes. So I'll just, if you want to think for a second,

just say mine quickly because I think I've told on this podcast before. It was for Thor. They were dummy sides that were like ridiculous and I made the mistake of not committing 100% and I just like I was supposed to be sword fighting and I remember telling the casting director like, I'm not going to be sword fighting the air. I'm just going to do the lines and I could tell she was. Oh, okay, I didn't. So never mind. I guess I only told our engineer East and yeah, I the sides were like supposed to be like sort like with this sword I vanquished thee and all of this And I walked into the office already feeling like, oh, I'm not this guy. This isn't good.

The two casting assistants were like young ladies my age who were attractive. So of course, then I'm like even more insecure and self-conscious. And yeah, I got too cool for school. And I was like, I'm not going to sword fight the air. I'm just going to say the lines. And I could tell in that moment by everyone's faces that they probably didn't even turn the camera on. They're like, great, thank you.

And I was never invited back to that casting office since. Oh, my goodness. I realized that this was a sad one to lose. I auditioned for the Amy Adams role and Catch Me If You Can. And, yeah, and I don't remember if it was a similar situation where they weren't quite telling people. I don't think they released the script, so I think it might have been a dummy sides thing as well. And I remember being really flustered because it was also pilot season. And, you know, back then, like, as a college kid, I was going to, like, three or four auditions a day.

And I knew I really wanted to book a pilot. Like, you know, you think about a show. So the thing I had sort of thrown away, because it was one short scene, was this. And I remember in the room realizing, like, wait, what? What is this appointment? Wait, I didn't read this clearly enough because I was so focused on this pilot that I wanted that I'd, like, memorized and worked with a friend on and all the things and in my head I was like

I don't know the lines I don't even know like I just blanked I was like who's this woman supposed to be is she charming is she a seductress is she a student is she sweet is she mean

oh god oh god Leonardo DiCaprio's in this movie I just panicked and it was like in my memory it was the most like robotic and sweaty audition I've ever done. But Amy Adams is a national treasure, so it was always supposed to be hers.

Yeah, I suppose. Oh, it's just, man, and like the sting of those moments never goes away, you know? Well, and where you realize, especially when you're trying to break into the business, they give you way more stuff to try to get than you possibly could. Like, it's just too much. It's too much to memorize. It's too much to work on really well. But you're trying your best and you're young and, you know,

You're in that, like, I'll sleep when I'm dead, phase. And I just was like, I prioritized the wrong thing today. And I think I will regret it. But see, the good news is out of these colossal failures came learning opportunities. And we grew. There you go. I always read a breakdown twice ever since. Just to be sure, I'm not missing anything important.

And I do what the script tells me to do now without being too cool for school. I sword fight with the air I love it I guess Chris Hemsworth wasn't all right though it's so funny in hindsight to be like Yeah he got it like let's be honest They were just seeing guys

They had a guy in mind I mean yeah Yeah There's always that moment too Where you go out for something And then you're like Oh uh huh I remember one of my favorite scripts I ever read

I was like I really want to fight for this one And my team was like It's very good And I was like Why is everyone being so weird? And then the next day in deadline, they were like, Anne Hathaway is inked a deal for. And I was like, ah, yes, she's won an Oscar, understood. Yes.

And it's funny because you'll get the, oh, they went a different direction. And my brain is like, was it the direction of more talent? But then it'll be, like, there was one I was supposed to do it. I'm like, I just, I had to learn the duggy for it. What? And I was just having a day. And I was like, no, I'm not going to learn the freaking duggy for a stupid audition. I was just pissed, right?

And I normally never don't do auditions, but on this one, I was just like, absolutely not. And then the next week, deadline announced that Jared Leto was playing the role. And I'm like, ah, exactly. I wasn't even in the mix. Yeah, you're like, cool story, bro. Yeah. All right.

Well, hey, look, at 30 minutes, we only spent half the time talking about food. I'm really proud of us. We're growing. Yep. We had a strong second half. Thanks, friends. Please continue submitting your questions.

And if they are food related, we won't be sad. Yeah. Bye, everybody. Thanks for joining us. Bye. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O-T-H.

Or email us at Drama Queens at I-HeartRadio.com. See you next time. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us. Girl. Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens.

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