Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (Part 5)

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

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Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. You guys welcome to another one of our totally sweet, totally random bonus episodes where we just answer fan questions. We all just sent out a tweet that we wanted your questions because we're all getting together and like hopping on the phone. Joy's in an airport. Honestly, I just love our commitment. Yeah.

I'm just flying across the country, but I'll still be there at 8 a.m. It is very early today, everyone. So, rather than send a question, someone just sent us an article from 2016 that says, let's discuss this insane One Tree Hill fan theory about Chris Keller and Dan Scott. What? Have you heard about this? No. Wait, I'm looking for the tweet.

There's so many questions. It says one of the most nauseating characters on the show, besides Dan and Deb, was Chris Keller. People are suggesting that he's another one of Dan Scott's illegitimate sense. sons. No. How could this be? Oh, also when he met Dan, Dan said he reminded him of himself. Interesting.

Interesting. I don't know, guys. I don't know if I buy that theory. It's a small town, but this small. I think, I think the king of the small town having two children with people other than his wife might be aggressive. Although, I don't know, Mori Popovich has been on the air for a real long time. Isn't that the whole storyline of the show? Not the father. It's like a paternity test every week, right?

Also, Chris Keller was supposed to be older than us. So does that mean that Dan was skirting around, like, as a sophomore in high school? Maybe. Mm, wild. I don't know, guys. Anyway, that was the fun way to kick off this bit. I love like a news headline. I'm such a sucker. What questions do we got, babe? You know what I think was actually really sweet? Somebody just asked, oh, my God, they're coming in so fast. I'm starting to lose them. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Well, I've lost it in the feed, but somebody said, was there a character that you would have liked to end up in a couple with? is essentially the question. Are you going to answer that? A hundred percent.

I mean, look, we all know who our characters endgames are and that's great. We watch the show. It exists. But I think it's no secret, especially as we're rewatching seasons one and two, that I am an enormous fan of the would-be relationship between Brooke Davis and Marvin McFadden. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it. Oh, we got Joy. We got Joy the airport. I think she's going to co-sign on that answer. Don't you think? Yeah, we're reading our tweet questions, Joy. What airport are you in? L.A. I'm in L.A. I'm in a Tom Bradley Terminal. Can you guys hear me? Because I've got my headphones on, but there's no, I'm just using the computer speaker. Yeah, you actually sound pretty great. Oh, great. Okay. And you look cool, too. I know. I'm like, how does your hair do that? Do what? It looks awful. What are you talking about? Every time we get on Zoom, I'm like, what is how, just how?

Last week, you looked like you rolled out of the 70s. Today you're like, I'm a mess. I'm at the airport. And I'm like, if that was my mess, I'd be so thrilled. Oh, I love you guys. No, I'm still trying to put myself together this morning. But, you know, I have to say, my hair is sort of the one super fun constant in my life that I can always play with. I can always like, no, you know what I mean.

It's like, I can always change my look. It's fun. It's fun playing with hair. Anyway, what are you guys talking about? What's going on? Well, Sophia just asked a really good question from a fan. Yeah, we're reading the fan questions. And I was just saying the tweets are coming in so fast. I'm actually, like, losing them in the thread.

But somebody asked if your character could have ended up with any other character, like aside from your end game couple, who would it be? And we gave the disclaimer, no one's allowed to get mad that we're not rooting for our end game. This is just a hypothetical. This is for fun. And I was just saying, especially given the episodes that we're watching, I mean, the time capsule, Senator McFadden, I just would have loved to see a broken mouth. Yeah. That would have been fun.

Oh, yeah. I would love that. Did you have one, Hillary? I haven't answered yet, but you know mine is skills. Damn. I was thinking about skills. Damn. Hold on.

Are we going to have a love triangle with skills? Yes. Oh, my God. Yay. Honestly, though. That is a reboot I would watch. Just going to throw it out there. The spiral that Peyton, like, always goes on,

I feel like skills has the capability to pull her out of her bullshit and be like, calm down. Don't be an idiot. Yeah. Relax. Well, if you get skills that I want Beachy, I want Jake Chigelsky, I'll take it. You could just sing together all the time. All the time. We're just, like, live a life of musicians and just, like, travel and,

raise babies. You never wear shoes. You guys would just be like playing guitar and tapping your feet. Yeah. We're on to something, gang. So are you guys like on Twitter scrolling through? Sorry if every, sorry everybody out there if it sounds. Can you hear that high pitch beeping?

I can try and mute it, but I'm in the airport. No, it's actually, it's ambiance because now everyone at home feels like they're in the airport with you. Oh, yeah. And we're all just, we're on a layover. together baby coming to you live from the town bradley germinal i like it because this is usually what happens when the three of us are on face time like always one of us is in that little face time square running through something and so you know Hillary's got like five plates and she's feeding children and goats and like the last time set like having food in her mouth they're like calling for her

and she's like but i'm here talking to my friends i'm like hold on just one second just one second The last time I sent you guys a video, it was in the school pickup line getting Gus, and I was in a rental car, so he didn't recognize me. And I'm like, Gus, God damn it, Gus, I'm over here. I could have, like, hit pause on the video, whatever. You hated the world that day, man. Oh, my God. I was going to fist fight everything. So, okay, so. I have a good one here. Yeah, do it. Because it's super relevant to the episodes we're in the midst of now. Marisaan is asking, since Joy was touring, how much did she know about the storyline? Because you guys were out on the road. Did you have any idea what the rest of us were doing back home? No, no idea. In fact, you know, I was just watching a little bit of the last episode. And the whole Jake and Jenny thing, I mean, I knew that there was Jake and Jenny and Nikki.

Like, I knew that was happening around Peyton, but I didn't really know that storyline. I completely forgot that Brooke moved in with Karen and took over Lucas's spot, which is so cool. Yeah, totally forgot about that. And the Anna thing, I just, I mean, I knew it would happen, but I didn't actually watch any of this stuff. And Owen, this whole thing about Lucas finding like cash and ledgers and dance, like doing super spy stuff and dance motors. No. And I never saw anything about what Nathan was doing when I wasn't on the road. I mean, they sent me the scripts. I think I was just, I mean, Tyler and I were out touring. I think I was just kind of like, well, if I'm not in it, I'm not going to read it.

Which was dumb of me at the time. That's a very Antoine thing of you to do. It is. But now, I wouldn't do that now. But I'm trying to remember if they even emailed us the scripts. Like, did we get scripts emailed to us? Or did we get hard copies? We've got hard copies, remember, because we had leaks all the time. But also, did we have email back that? Like, I can't even remember. This is actually a crazy thing I haven't thought about in years, guys. When the show was on, we had so many leaks happening and hacks happening.

People were hacking into email accounts of producers on our show, which, by the way, just disclaimer, so inappropriate. Like, if you have to hack somebody's account. Just don't. You're not supposed to be there. Like, respect boundaries. Rude. Very rude. People were stealing scripts.

And so they, remember, they started giving us scripts on red paper? Because you go, yeah, Xerox, red paper. Yeah. And there were all these weird security measures we were going through. They were, like, sending out great sides. I feel like that started with the Nathan and Haley marriage when it was like, the big surprise that they got married. That's when that's where the page just started.

I haven't thought about that in so long. I just remember being like, what dork is like, I'm gonna ruin this surprise. Like we're a Marvel movie or something. I was like, if you're a hacker, like don't you want to go, I don't know, work for the government to do something cool? Don't you want to code like the next spaceship? What are you doing?

Be a whistleblower, man. Not a trigger ruiner. Hello? Oh, I have a good one, guys. This is funny. You do. Okay. Elevator pitch your characters.

Go. Come on. That's so funny. I know my elevator pitch on Peyton. Yeah. Grumpy cheerleader with lots of dead mothers and relationship and boundary issues. But good taste in music. Dad.

Great. Haley James, overachiever, super sweet, kind of repressed, and the girl next door. I don't know. I'm boring. You go. No, that was gentle and, like, loving. We love Haley. It's funny, I was going to use girl next door for Brooke as well.

I do. I think she's the popular girl next door who has grown up in. with absentee parents, learned to validate herself with all the wrong things, men, money, et cetera, and is coming into her own learning to replace external validation with internal confidence. What a journey. What a journey. It's so meaningful. That's where we're at currently. Okay, speaking of characters, though, Sammy wants to know. Silly question, but which Disney characters do you think your OTH characters are?

most like. That's her face from Enchanted. Oh, yeah. Dude. Is it, wait, is Enchanted a Disney movie? Yeah. Am I an idiot? Yeah, Amy Adams and Enchanted.

It's definitely Disney. What's the one in Hercules? Who's the really grumpy chick in that? What's her name? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, who is she? She's like, don't talk about love. Yeah, if there's a price for rotten judgment.

Yeah, yeah. Megara. Megara. Like, whatever, man. That was me. Yeah, super grumpy. Haley might be more like Moana, I think, actually. Is she a Disney princess?

I guess she is technically. Yeah. Love MoMA. Who's Brooke? I don't know. Who is Brooke? Brooke is the blonde chick from Princess and the Frog, who? Miss Charlotte LeBouf

Who's like I need some man catching bignets Honestly Even in an animated world All I ever want to eat is a bignet So that feels right I took Gus To New Orleans when that movie came out

And we went to a restaurant And he ordered I'd like some man catching bignets No Oh my God He's perfect Disney I don't know Who would you say so

You get to see many Disney movies I don't know. It's been a minute since I watched a Disney movie. I mean, I don't know. All my favorite songs to sing her from The Little Mermaid, but that's probably just because of nostalgia. Brooke Davis never sang. Great songs in the end. Yeah. What else? Yeah, but Brooke Davis wants to be more than just a princess of the ocean. She wants adventure. She finds her voice. It's Brooke Ariel. It makes me feel very emotional. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive.

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you talked about Payton's love of music, so it feels lightly tied together. It's not quite jumping the shark to move on to this next one. if Vic wants to know if you guys had a song that represented your character what would it be and why and especially because your characters were so rooted in music was there a song or or did you like every season feel like you had a song that represented Haley or Payton oh man that's tough I'm going to my iTunes library right now and browse for a second I don't have any that come to mind You know what song I sang in my head all the time while we were filming? You know, I was like a huge Donny Darko fan.

And that song, Mad World, you know, like, I find it kind of funny. Yeah, that the dreams of which I'm dying are the best I ever had. You know, like, those lyrics were so Peyton Sawyer to me. And like, there's a Donny Darko element to Peyton Sawyer where she's just always right on the brink of making like, terrible choices. Mad world. Mad world is beautiful. Is Brooke looking for the heart of a Saturday night?

Yeah, what's your vibe, Brooke? God, I don't know. What I do for every project, I always make a soundtrack for a character so that I have just something to immerse myself in that puts me in a mood. And we did our show for so long that I made so many. I feel like every year I would make a new playlist. But I think the one that always comes to mind first for me is that song from the Breakfast Club because we did that in later years where they, like, you know,

our director purposefully wanted me to do that 80s Molly Ringwald dance, but do it really badly. And it's become, like, such a funny thing for people. It's become an iconic thing for Brooke. Yeah. I remember when at first having people were like, wow, you're not a good dancer. I was like, this is on purpose. This was a choice.

You're a damn good actor. I'm an actor. Yeah, that kind of really gets me, especially because our show has become a sort of iconic coming-of-age story. And that's how I felt as a young actor about. the breakfast club it's it's the movie that i have watched probably more than any other coming of age story movies so it it feels fun to have like a little yeah love that yeah that was super fucking cute joy what's your song honey i'm gonna go with pageant material by casey musgraves oh yes because i think that fits for haley you know she's like she's in a small town

she really wants to please everybody and she wants to do what's right and be liked and fit in. But at the end of the day, she's just like, I don't know what to tell you. I am pageant material. Like, you just, I am who I am. And I do about that about her. Did you ever do pageants? Never. No.

Did you? I did one as a joke. I did one as a joke. Senior year in high school, my job, I was like school president. so I had to read the morning announcements every morning. And so I read this morning announcement that was like, contestants for the Miss Loudoun County pageant meet after school on Thursday. And I was like, Miss Loudoun County pageant, I'm for sure doing this. And so I gothed out, like wore the black dress and a lot of heavy eye makeup and went and was like kind of a dick about it.

But I ended up placing third. So, hazah. And that's like my big claim to fame. I used to put that on like resumes and stuff as like a joke. Third runner up in the Miss Loudoun County page. I love you so much, Hillary. I'm so grumpy. All I'm thinking about when you say that is the excerpts that you showed us that you used to

people's yearbooks in high school and I'm like, this tracks. It's so good. There's pictures. You go after life with a roar, like a fierce, full run. straight ahead, roar. Like, that's how you tackle life. And apparently how you've always been doing it. And I'm just, I love you so much.

It's the small town thing where it's just like, oh, we're so bored. We're so bored. What are we going to do this weekend? Well, we could pee on the 50-yard line at the football field. Or we could go do a pageant. I love it. Make poor choices, kids. You guys, we should do a pageant.

We should do. They're only for younger. girls, why don't we host a 40 and fabulous pageant? I love that. 40, flirty and thriving. What's our 40? Yeah. Fabulous and 40 and feisty.

40 and fabulous. I like feisty. Done. What other questions do we have? I love it. Oh, this is a funny one, especially when we think about timing of things like email and high school pageants. Sarah wants to know when we see cast members using phones and scenes, are those your actual phones or prop phones?

It depends. They're usually props, but sometimes your phone will fit the same case as the set phone, and then you can switch it out and use your real phone while you're in the scenes. Oh, my God. I could not do that. I would be so distracted. Ritchie, you just turn it off. I mean, there's just so much sitting around.

You end up for like a, you know, half hour in between setups and stuff sometimes that it's nice to be able to have your actual phone with you I find people get in less trouble now on sets I think because of phones because before we just used to have to like talk to each other and like make out and make terrible choices and now you can retreat into your world and like talk to your friends

or your manager or like someone that's going to keep you out of a predicament well now you're not as isolated you know we were very isolated that's true it's hard though I don't don't like having phones on sets, to be honest. I feel like I much prefer reading a book or talking to people because it really drives me crazy when people are disengaged because it is, it's a major distraction. You just get on your phone and then like whatever the text message was that you've just

received when you're trying to do the scene that the person is still thinking about or I, you know, if I've got my phone, I'm still thinking about what I've got to do when I get off the scene, when I get done with the scene to get on my phone. So I don't like, I don't like bringing it to set if I can help it. You know what I'm thinking about? That piano. That ragtime music. happening. I'm trying. I'm trying to mute it. I'm sorry. No, Joy, don't. Is that an actual piano player? Or is it? No, it's just like coming from the speakers somewhere in the airport. I'm going to walk. So you guys talk and I'll just keep this

rolling. I personally was enjoying it. I'm waiting for Joy to get up and sing along with it as she's been known to do. Hello, my sweetheart. Oh, my lover pie. Okay. So here's a question from Courtney. She says, if y'all could have chosen any guest star to have been on the show like full time, who would that have been? Man. I mean, that's a hard question because we loved, loved, loved our guest stars. Yeah. Loved them. Yeah, there's so many avenues. Like if we're thinking about mentors, you know, I go back to thinking about Gerald McCraney. If I'm thinking about, you know, other women we wish we'd had for longer. Obviously, Danielle Alonso, there's, I think we-

Sharon Lawrence. Oh, God, how fabulous was Sharon Lawrence. I think if you do a show for as long as we did, it gets hard. It's like asking, I mean, I imagine. It's kind of like asking a parent to pick their favorite child. You're like, but I love them all. Pick. Pick.

All my favorites died. Hillary. Yeah, right. Robbie Jones, right? Like, how great would he have been as a permanent guest star? Oh, I thought you meant in real life. Oh, my God.

No. But Cheryl Lee was, like, so dear to me and loved her so much playing Ellie. Colin Fickis, who is one of my dearest friends in real life, who lives up here in the Hudson Valley. Like, what a layer it would have added to the show to have him from the pilot till Jimmy Edwards' death. Maybe, like, let's not kill him.

How about that? I think Colin added such a good layer to our show. And then, yeah, Robbie Jones, like, guys, everybody leaves or dies. They will always leave. Oh, there's a question. Joy, do you have somebody? Sorry, I saw another question on Twitter or not. No, go, go for it.

So this is interesting on the topic of leaving. God, I don't know why I'm in the mood for a pun this morning, but I got- Girl, your segways are tight today. Something happening to me. I didn't sleep much last night. Anyway, Tessa is asking, what do you think Peyton and Lucas would have done

if they'd stayed in Tree Hill? Well, the only thing that happens when you're, like, happily ever after on a TV show and you stay is they have to break you up. They have to cause drama in the relationship, so there's drama for the show. Yeah, how can we destroy you guys?

And so that's why I was, like, kind of content just to peace out. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Peyton would have stayed at Tree Hill I could see Hayley staying and I could see even Brooke like becoming a really like a pillar member of the community and really investing and just be

you know like falling in love there and getting married and building a life and or doing her business out of Tree Hill but Peyton I mean Peyton had the same thing that you have Hillary which is what I was just saying like running at life full speed with a roar

that's that was in Peyton too because you gave that to her and I just I don't think there's any circumstance that would have kept her in Tree Hill I can't imagine.

It was so weird we were talking the other day about how our parents totally disengaged because like either production didn't want to pay them

or they didn't think it was important and for me thinking about Peyton as being an adopted kid whose last remaining parent

like adopted dad doesn't come to her wedding, doesn't walk her down the aisle, doesn't come to see her baby. It sets such a bad example for adoption, and I think it's, like, not realistic. Adopted parents, you know, that's a really sacred thing. And I think most people take it very seriously, and we did not depict that well. And so it feels like rejection. Do you know what I mean? And so I feel like Hayden.

A big town full of rejection, right? Yeah, it's a big town. I'm full of just, like, there's a country song in there somewhere. Girl, it feels big and sad, and I can't wait for you in Greenberg to sing that song together. I could see, I could see Peyton coming back, but there's something about her need. Yeah, like, she could come back and, as an adult or, like, find something new to love and appreciate about the town. But at that age, at that stage, she had to get out. She had to.

Yeah. I think there's also something... it feels like something of a hero's journey for her with this set of experiences that she had and this belief you know when we think about her art people always leave and then she has that that sometimes they come back peace it's like i feel like Peyton needed to leave to see something else aside from the pattern that her life had shown her you know, to take that control, to change her own fate, to, to become, you know, the captain of her ship. And then, yeah, if there's a time that leads her back, you know, to Brooke and Haley who are waiting patiently. That feels right. There was a question that I saw in here that was, like, specifically about the three of us in real life coming back to Wilmington and how that feels. Because in the same way, our characters either experienced trauma or good memory.

in Tree Hill, the three of us also experienced all, you know, the highs and the very lows in Wilmington. And I know when we go back for conventions, I always feel a little bit wiggily about it. I'm like, oh, who am I going to see? Where am I going to go? Because it could be awesome or it could also be incredibly awkward. Do you guys feel that way? Yeah, I do a little bit. I've never, I mean, I think it's mostly because.

I was so kind of in my own world. I mean, I knew our crew and like all of us that were in that little bubble. But I didn't make a lot of friends in town because I think I was mostly just on set or at home by myself because I just didn't want to be super social. I was already social all day on set and being introverted. It was like a lot for me. So sometimes when I go back to Wilmington, I see a lot of people who know who I am and they've had interactions with me at some point. but I don't remember or like we did I didn't spend enough time investing in their friendship or relationship where I really it was just like maybe somebody that worked at a cafe

or I mean whatever and I feel really like oh my god I I know your face but I can't remember your name and I don't remember what we talked about when we talked and so that's always feels a little like I don't know it makes you self-conscious yeah it makes me self-conscious because I want people to feel seen and known and if I feel like I'm in a position where I can do that or make them feel the opposite. I always feel like I just feel horrible if I can't always remember. We also were working 18 hour a day, Joy, like 18 hours a day. It was a lot.

Yeah. And I mean, look, I think that is one of the things that can be weird about what we do is the sort of uneven seesaw of someone's awareness of who a person is from their favorite show versus what anyone's. normal awareness might be of like, I don't know, somebody who they see once a week at the grocery store when they grab something who you try to, but you don't, you don't necessarily know where their kids go to school or whatever. And so I have that too, that feeling of like, I should be better at this. And then I'm like, yeah, there's no way I can remember a brain can't

remember like 2,000 people perfect. There were so many nights out in downtown. How could one remember but i i will say it was it was cool to find the friendships that we did like you know jane and tricky especially opened a whole world oh yeah for me and so when i think about you know Aaron and Cody and Mary george and all like all my my local friends there who i still see whenever we go back. Yeah. It feels really special. But yeah, when I like, you know, run into somebody at the co-op who's like, hey, I haven't seen you

a while. I'm like, oh, no, oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry. Dude, I just kissed so many waiters in town when we lived there. And I remember coming back when I was pregnant with Gus. When I was pregnant with Gus, I mean, the show was still on the air. Yeah. You guys were still doing it.

And I went to The Basics, which was my favorite restaurant downtown. Oh, God, I love that place. And I'm, like, there with my family and this boy that I had, like, you know, been kissing the year before walks in. And it's like, hey, what's up? And I stood up. And he was just like, oh, oh. And that feeling of like, yeah, you've been gone, but you've come back.

And things are very, very different now is always kind of how I feel. It's like the world's moving so fast that every time we're. check back in with Wilmington like everything's changed so but it remains a touchstone it's a good place to to check in with well one of the things i will say that i love is because we've stayed tethered to it and to each other i feel like we have done physically with Wilmington what we've done emotionally with with our podcast we've we've gone back and kind of like done the dishes We continue to go to tidy up. The places we love, the places we love.

And every time we go back, I feel like I love it more. And like I have less of a tremor of what was unpleasant. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. All right. We got a question from Lindsay. This is, yeah, I guess that's true.

So Lindsay says when it comes to shooting car scenes, how does that work? Where's the person filming stand? when you see cars in the background is that real or fake like interstate driving that's a good question if we weren't in this business we wouldn't know that either um well lindsay uh there's lots of different ways to shoot a car scene um one of them is to actually put a car on a on a on a it's kind of like a flat bed it's called a process trailer process trailer that's right yeah and you just put the car on that and then the cameras kind of like sit on either side of the they just move the camera around the car and then they pull like the truck pulls the car

and you just look like you're driving or you can put the car actually on the road and the and the cinematat cinematographer the camera a camera be camera sits behind you in the back seat and they film from behind shooting the road ahead of you and then they'll do they'll also do so the car will be on the trailer which basically looks like a big raft and the car sits in the middle of it and the crew is around the sides with railings to protect them. They'll put crew in the car with you when the car is driving. And then they'll also, there's two other kinds of rigs that are pretty cool. So the car will be on the road and you'll really be driving.

And then they have, there's this, like, famous car that some stunt company owns. It's a blacked out SUV. And I think they have three of them now. And they cost an absurd amount of money. and they have a techno crane on them that's also blacked out. And so that car can drive next to you and the crane can maneuver the camera from the back of the picture car, which would be the one one of us would be driving, like through, you know, down the side, around the front, over the top.

It's like a whole crazy. Is that how they did Ford v. Ferrari? Because that movie blew my mind. I know there was drone shots and I know there was like, you know, some of it was people. on another car but that was like beyond yeah we that's how we used to do like all of our high speed chases in chicago and so with that car you can do some pretty insane things if you have really good drivers and then the other thing that they'll do too is you'll be on the road um driving and they'll have like a like a extra wide um kind of technically outfitted pickup truck that

almost has like a stair step on the back of it that a bunch of cameras can sit on and that'll be in front of you so they can shoot you know from the from the hood through the windshield so a driving scene you know that might be four minutes long could take all day because you've got to be on the trailer off the trailer in the wide shots in the close-ups and then the cars on the highway behind you are all picture cars because they we have the exact same time. thought right now. What is it? Hilaryca, you do it. You say it. Are you talking about when we just cheat it in the studio and turn all the lights off?

Oh my God, that's the worst. No, listen, you guys, Joy and I had to do a scene in the comet inside of the studio. So they're like, the driving scenes at night, okay? It's dark outside. So what they do is they have one grip with like two flashlights run at us, like it's headlights. It's so hot. From the side of the car.

you just get like and then they like circle back and then they come back again and it's just like circle back with a red light so it looks like the brake lights in front of you go off and then there's someone else then there's greens shaking the bushes shaking the car oh shaking the bushes everyone's all they'll be like trees shaken that you're driving past but yes and there's a fan there's fans that your windows open you got to have fans on either side of my god and then someone will shake the car too there's somebody like just leaning on the back of the car shaking it. So Joy and I were doing this scene one night.

It wasn't even night. It was the middle of the day, which is why we were cheating it inside of a big, huge studio. And I'm used to, like, driving, and I'm trying to make it seem believable. So I'm doing all the things with my hands, and I'm looking in the rearview mirror,

and I'm, like, using my feet on the pedals, like, one wood. And because it's a vintage car, it's, like, very delicate. And when Peyton goes to break, you know, They do this thing where they, like, rock the car. So Joy and I both, like, you know, lean forward, like, we're breaking really hard. And I actually hit the brake, which would turn the taillights on. And you hear from the back of the car, dacious, yelling, don't mash the break. Don't mash the break.

And everyone's thinking he's saying, don't masturbate. And everyone's like, what is he saying to these girls? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I totally forgot about that. For years, for years, they'd be like, Hillary, don't mash the break. Don't mash the break. Whatever.

Oh, my God. But Joy and I were just like, go out and drive. That's ridiculous. We could just get this done in 10 minutes inside. It's at night. Just drive the car into the stage. You know what I always love to spot, too, is in older shows, when they clearly shot the scene inside on a green screen. Of course.

And then they just put non-bescript. city footage in in post and everyone has that little black like pencil outline around them because the green screen is bad. And you're just like, why didn't you go outside and just do this on a street? I know. They turn the car and then the street behind them turns like a half second later. Yeah. No one'll notice. Oh, man. That's a good question. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very

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Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. in a Dawson's Creek O.T.H. crossover episode. I mean, there kind of was. Chad and I were both in Dawson's together. And James Vanderbitt came on our show. Yeah, James came on our show. Oh, my God. Guys, the world is just so synced up. Which characters do you think would have had chemistry, love interests with each other? Well. Well, that's fun. I was very drawn to busy Phillips. when I did guest star on Dawson's Creek. Yeah, she's fun. She's got strong big dick energy.

She's a powerful, fun, fun, fun girl. Yeah. And Peyton would have totally been swept up in her for sure. Because she's fun. She's fun. She's like a fun magnet. Yeah, totally. And I think Peyton would have seen her as like, look at all that light.

I want that. Yeah. Let me in. Yeah. Yeah, Lucas and Jen would have had a good, good chemistry. They're both broody and moody and torture. Well, that would have been nice. I, as soon as you read that question, I was like, man, and look, I will confess,

I didn't watch Dawson's Creek all the way through, but in the early days when I did, my brain immediately thought, oh, Pacey's kind of like the male, Brooke Davis. Oh, yeah. Sleeping with teachers and Pacey. What was his last name? Pacey. What was his name? Whitt, something, Whittier, Whittaker, Pacey.

I don't know. Well, whatever. Josh Jackson. Whatever. Josh Jackson, can I say that name? I think, I think, yeah, Pacey and Brooke would have had, like, very, Pacey Witter. Great, Pacey, weird. Here it is.

Weird. I think they would have had some great chemistry and laughs and, like, definitely gotten arrested. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I will say in real life, Josh is such a wonderful man. He's such a committed activist. Like the number of like underground, let's work on stuff and really make sure, you know, when there are elections or social issues happening, there's groups of us that are like, okay, how do we help? And he's always first in that in that group with me. And so it's really sweet. every once in a while, you know,

we'll be at like a protester and organizing meeting and we're just like, man, remember what dip shit little kids we used to be? And now we're just having the world a better place. So I feel that there's a real foundation there. I would have liked it. Yeah. Yeah, you guys would have been dreaming. Who was Haley drawn to?

I don't know. I mean, I guess Haley probably would have liked Pacey too because I was the only other option really is Dawson. And I don't know who else, what other guys were on that show because I didn't watch it long. Curse Smith was a babe, but he didn't like girls, right?

Didn't he come out? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, but did he come out right away? Yeah, I mean, Haley could have tried. That sounds like something Haley would have attempted. That does sound like something Haley would have done. Yeah, because Dawson feels like it would have been too much, too similar. I think Dawson is too similar to Lucas for Haley.

But the same sides of magnets. You'd be like, right? Yeah, exactly. exactly that was a fun question i liked that a lot all right we got time for one more let's one more hit us did oh this is kind of fun andrea says whenever you guys did scenes on camera with a rival in an argument or a fight scene with another actor is there any pre-briefing conversations of i hope you know i love you and i don't mean anything of what i'm about to say or do it's really cute like merrill streep did with uh famously did with anne hathaway before devilware's

Brata started. Have you heard this story? She set her down. They went out for a drink and she was like, I'm going to treat you very badly for the next three months. I just want you to know. Don't take it personally. Yeah. It's incredible. But yeah, that's really, that's really smart. No, I don't think we had it. We never did have those because we all just hung out. You know, we all kind of liked each other and we're nice to each other. So I don't, I think that's just part of the business you just kind of grow up knowing that you're just doing the work you don't take it personally i think more than anything at least i know i do this like if i have to

fight with one of you or even on you know good sam like me and sky have had to have these you know ram smashing sort of scenes all year and every time we do the rehearsal and then we have to actually you know set up the scene right after rehearsal my go to is always oh i don't like this I don't like yelling at you. I don't like having you. You know, I think there's a natural inclination with your friends to say like, look, this feels weird, but it's also our job. Rehearsal is a big important part of it, though.

I mean, because you're actually working together to solve a puzzle. So the audience is just, that's right. Yeah, the audience is just seeing the final, they're just seeing a fight with two characters that they love. But that's our job is to go in and piece everything together. So you're really working with the other person to choreograph this moment. So it's actually in a weird way, you don't feel like you're fighting at all. You feel like you're dancing.

You're, you're doing something together, you know? Well, not always. I don't know. Have you guys ever been on the other side of it where like the other person's the alpha on the set and you're the one that's like getting yelled at? And they don't do that thing of, hey, this is, hey, do you want to talk in between setups? they're just like, okay, go back to your corner. And you're like, yeah, I have.

That sucks. I don't like that. It doesn't feel good. I won't say what job it was, but boy, did it suck. I'm going to tell you later. I'm going to tell you later. You tell us after this podcast. Yeah, I think for whatever reason, my brain is also thinking now, as we talk about this,

about when you have to do not just arguments, but actual physical fights, how important rehearsal is to figure out how you're going to do that, how you're going to take care of each other. God, I wish I knew where the outtakes were Hill. Was it season three where we got in a fight on Peyton's front lawn? Oh my God, when you got hurt. Yeah. Remember we did it over and over and over again. And you know, that was season four. Season four. So Paul, you know, we were fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting and screaming and crying and doing all these things together. And then it was just one take where like, I don't know, we twisted the opposite. way we'd twisted the 16 times before it was really bad and it was your elbow in my skull and it was a

whole moment and I just remember like falling over and you falling on top of me going oh no oh no oh no oh no that was really scary it was scary but I there's something that's also so sweet about the immediate stop and hold and hug and like oh my god are you okay are you okay that actors will do for each other um because sometimes yeah sometimes you'd get hurt and it's not obviously on purpose um i remember when i was making that would be the hitcher with sean bean and he was like literally trying to murder me and in the middle of it i mean he would be like literally beating the crap out of me throwing me around like a ragdoll and i would never know when it was coming but in the middle of a scene he'd always pause and you know he had his like really gravelly

for a noticeable American accent and then he would pause and go oh you're okay darling you're right okay she'll get back to it okay one two three and then he'd like snap my you know my face in a different direction and I was like God what a gentleman you are oh it's so funny to think that the people at home never get to see you know those little moments we get to have the sweetness it's all sweet joy catch your plane darling love you guys I got to go yep we love you so much That was fun. Thanks. Have safe travels. Guys, thank you so much for all these great questions.

Please keep them back because this is fun. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We'll talk to you guys soon. Bye-choo. Bye. Hey, thanks for listening.

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