Drama Queens - One Tree Thrill (Part 54)

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

Forget behind-the-scenes, we're going between the sheets in this Q&A episode! Hear about the OTH hookup that was never confirmed, UNTIL NOW.Plus, a Grey's Anatomy crossover? Sophia reveals the OTH spinoff some fans want to see.Meanwhile, Joy lets us in on a songwriting secret and Sophia shares an organizing hack you'll want to try!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl, cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl, you could sit with us, girl. Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. well hey gang welcome back hey hey thanks for joining us you've got joy and i today rob is out but we've got some good questions from the ladies so it kind of feels fun it's like a little gross chat it is i know yeah welcome to the club cozy up i hope you're ready Courtney asks could you please tell us about the process of making the opening song for the podcast it makes me smile every time i hear it thank you all i've loved listening every week that's so Sweet. That's really sweet. Thanks, Courtney. I was just goofing around. I mean, I, who knows, there is no process. It's just like ideas hit and you follow them down a weird trail. And yeah, I wish I had a specific process. I mean, I know I had, once I started writing the idea of it that I wanted to be fun, I wanted to be short, and just give everybody a feeling of like good, happy energy before they, we, we, we,

we want before we launched into each episode. Yeah. And I remember sending you guys like a track and saying, can you voice note in your phone a couple of these lines that you, iconic lines that you set on the show so we can incorporate that. Yeah. And we put it together pretty fast. My friend Ron and Yellow, who spends most of his time producing Bruce Springsteen's

records took a break to help the drama queens because he loves us. And I've worked with him for so long. And so he also has just been around Wontry Hill. And it was really fun to rope him in. He was my co-composer on the Notebook musical that I created with him. So it was really fun to sort of bring that family dynamic back in. Yeah, I can't think of anything else. You know what I remember that was really fun?

When we were thinking about the nostalgia of the show and going back to the early aughts and all the things that influenced us, I remember some of our references. like for what you were doing with the music for how we designed the photo shoot around the materials and we were like think bring it on, think pep rallies I found Julian's letterman jacket

and I think that like The cheer element Yes, the cheer element with the claps and the beat I feel like really built and when you sent us the original or I guess the working draft if you will of your track we were like yes it feels like a pep rally like it feels like we're getting everybody together for

something which is the feeling of the show me that's one tree hill you're at the high school you're at the pop rally for the game yeah that's a good point thanks for reminding me of that yeah yeah i loved it and i loved that we you know got to work with kenny for the video i loved that we got to do a benefit for the kind campaign like the whole thing just felt awesome yeah that was that was great yeah thanks Courtney okay and I see Flora. You're asking, okay, she says, I'm currently watching One Tree Hill for the first time. So fun. And as I watch, I have been creating a One Tree Hill relationship map on TikTok. What? I need to see this. So she's mapping out who each character sleeps with. In season six, she's asking, does Brooke eventually sleep with Owen? I couldn't decide. So I decided to pull the audience on TikTok. And the audience is very torn. Some of the girlie, think he never got what was beneath the clothes and others think they did sleep together, which is why Brooke was so upset when Millie slept with Owen. What do you guys think? Oh,

was this not decided? I kind of thought we already knew this. I guess not. Gosh. Well, one of the things I appreciated about their storyline was that Brooke really seemed to, you know, delay jumping into the physical aspect of their relationship so she could suss out the emotional one. But they definitely were a couple for a while. Yeah. And so, I don't know, I think when you're in your mid-20s and you're in an exclusive relationship with someone, you're probably sleeping together. Yeah, I guess that's the assumption. I think so. But we never saw them together in that way on camera. So it is really interesting. It's kind of, it's definitely hard to know for sure, but I always say yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. Okay, well, I'll ask you this other one because it's from Lisa and it's for you. And she says, if Brooke could have a sister, who would you want to play her? Oh my gosh. It would have been fun for Brooke to have a sister. Yes. You know what? I older or younger? I mean, maybe either. I feel like Brooke gives big sister energy though. Yeah. Or maybe I just feel that way and I'm projecting. But, you know,

Working on Grays, I work with this wonderful cast and working with Camilla, Luddington, for so long the internet has told us we need to play sisters. And being in actual physical space together, we're just like, oh, we absolutely should do that. And very sweetly, someone recently said to us, they were like, oh, my God, you guys should play sisters on the next season of White Lotus. They've never had, like, sisters on the show. sisters. And we were like, wait a second, that would be so cool. So whether it's, you know, a really twisty-turning show like that or something, I would, I would love to play her sister at some point. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Callie asks, how did you pass the time on set when you were

waiting for scenes? Oh, goodness. We knit, we read, we wrote, we ate. We, we We sat in our trailers and watched movies. We sat around and talked to each other. If anybody brought their dog to set, we'd go play with dogs. Yeah. There were a lot of options. I never have watched a movie in a trailer, I don't think. Really?

Well, I remember kind of trying in early days, but the conundrum for me of the wait times on set is you never really know how long they're going to be. Because they'll tell you they need five minutes and 20. five minutes later, you still haven't done anything. But then they'll tell you a turnaround is going to take 30 minutes and it only takes nine. So there's so much kind of hurry up and wait that for me, really getting into things that then I felt like I had to get pulled out of was so hard. And I think that's why I really got in the habit of using my spare minutes on set to just pour through all my news articles in the day because they're shorter. And in a way, I, I, I

could almost read more, but feel less like I was being, you know, cut off in the middle of something, if that makes sense? Interesting. Yeah, it does. I kind of, for me, it's a bit of the opposite. I really, it helps me stay in the moment of the scene if I'm not thinking too hard about the scene when I'm not shooting it. Yeah. So doing something that is completely different than the scene. So like even just relaxing into a movie, knowing they're going to knock on my door at any time I could be interrupted, it's fine. But it just kind of completely takes me out of it. So then every time we go to shoot from a different angle, I've, I've sent my nervous system and my body into a relaxed completely different space. So I come back and it feels fresh every

time. So I really, whether I'm writing, I did used to like to write on set a lot, but I don't do that much anymore because it just feels like too much problem solving. I'm already problem solving on set, understanding my character and the choices and blocking and all that. So yeah, I really love to just get in my trailer and turn on a show or a movie and relax and disassociate. That's so cool. Funny. Yeah, I feel like I've moved away from it because I'd always just start to get really engrossed in something. And then they'd be like, we're ready for you. And I'd be so bummed. So I've found that I need shorter. I want to get lost in something, but I need it to be shorter so I don't feel so frustrated and I'm called out of it. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

Which is so silly in particular, I guess. Ooh, this is a good question. Kirstie Kirste. If you could live in any movie or TV show, which one would it be? Oh, gosh. I mean, there's so many I've never seen. I'm sure there's going to be a better answer than whatever I give. If I could live in any, I don't know. It's like I want to say something like a period piece, like a Pride and Prejudice or something, but also life was kind of gross back then and there was not a lot of good medical care and women were not treated well. I don't know how much has changed really, but in that regard, in that regard.

But yeah, I don't know if I really want to want. want to live in that time period, another time period. Yeah. This is kind of tough. I'm running through the, I'm running through in my mind all of the possibilities of like, what shows have I watched recently? I don't, do you have an answer? I don't know.

I think this is a thing is that I, I love living in the real world. So I would like to visit some of these other places, but I actually don't want a reality that exists inside one of these TV shows or movies. That's the reason I like it is because I can visit it and then go away. Yeah, totally. I agree with that. And I also think so much of a great TV show or a movie is the story of conflict or, you know, some crazy thing is happening. Like you think about Back to the Future or Mission Impossible. I'd love to do those movies. But yeah, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't necessarily want to live it. Feels a little high stress. Yeah. Thanks so, too. Hmm.

Thanks, though. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a kind of years. you carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history.

On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn SageBurn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Chloe wants to know. She's wondering how the scenes where a character's facing a mirror

and it's an up-close shot, how do you get the shot without the cameras showing up in the mirror? This is a cool question. Is it done with a stunt double as the back of the head and the actual actor is the quote reflection? Oh, that's an interesting puzzle. Well, very rarely have I seen one that's straight on like that. And in that case, it's a CGI situation as far as I've ever seen where they have to like CGI out the camera. Usually they tilt the mirror and the actor looks at a mark that is not their face, but because the mirror is tilted and the angle.

of the camera behind them, it looks as though the actors looking at themselves in the mirror when they're not actually. Yeah, that's the thing. There's always a camera over your shoulder, but very often, I mean, they'll literally ball up like painters tape. Let's say, you know, I'm facing the mirror and the camera's over my left shoulder. They'll ball up a little painter's tape on the left side of the mirror to just jut it off the wall at a slight angle where you can't tell but it tilts it a little more toward the actor and a little away from the camera and then it might look like we're centered in the mirror but we're actually off you know to a little to the right usually you can't see yourself yeah sometimes you can see yourself and sometimes you can't

but also very often the camera is just out of frame and they've put like a longer lens on so it's actually further back than it looks um and it's out of the shot but the you know, the lens is zoomed in to the actor. I always find those scenes to be hard when you're supposed to be looking at yourself and having an experience some kind of scare or an emotional experience or whatever to be looking at an object or a mark instead of actually being able to make eye contact with yourself and see your physicality or whatever. And so you have to imagine that you're looking at yourself when you can't see yourself and then have an emotional reaction because at least when you're shooting with

another actor you've got somebody else to look at to react to it's like truly acting with a wall it's so strange yeah it really makes me think about the the actors who've done just full films in cg i like the actors you know the actors in avatar who literally were just on a sound stage and like suits a lot of the marvel stuff too you're like acting to a monster a Jurassic park they're they don't exist we're just covered in dots looking up at strings. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's a very weird thing.

You kind of have to, you have to dissociate from reality a little bit and just be sort of emotions in a skin suit. It's very weird. Imagination. Okay, Chris wants to know if you have a ritual you like to do on the weekends, or did you have any growing up? I mean, I guess we do watch.

I love Lucy a lot. I think that ends up on in the house on Saturdays or Sundays when we're cleaning or just sitting around or cooking or something. It's a nice background show. But otherwise, nothing in particular. No. Yeah, I don't know. For me, I mean, it really depends. You know, we all have to travel so much for work. And so you get out of a routine. But if I'm home with my family, it's like, We want to get outside, I want to get the kids outside, running around, you know, get in the woods, go on a hike, play, you know, go swimming, whatever, whatever's sort of accessible. Yeah. If I'm home, you know, like visiting in California, I love to get together with friends on Saturdays for brunch. I'm always at a flea market on Sundays. Like, those are the things that I love to do. But I think my rituals and routines are more dependent on place. than they are on any kind of schedule.

I do try and rest on the weekends. I will say that because it's, no matter where I am, inevitably during the week, there's a lot of work to be done. So I know some people really love to use the weekends as like their adventuring time and going out to do a bunch of stuff with friends and clean the house and all that stuff. But I don't know, do you find that you prefer to just know that you don't. don't have anything on the calendar on the weekends, or do you like to adventure? Yeah, I think it's really a seesaw for me because I love being able to do something, you know, see something

I've wanted to see or be with friends I haven't seen in a while. But I also, I just, I do find that I need rest in ways that I maybe ignored before. And so, yeah, sometimes I just, I want to have a rot day and do nothing and lay on the couch and just watch TV and stay in my pajamas. Oh, yeah. It's so nice. Yeah, I mean, rest can look like a lot of things, whether you're doing it that way or if I go for walks or, I mean, sometimes meeting a friend for lunch can be restful if it's the right person. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

Yeah. Thanks, Chris. Yeah. Okay, ladies asking, are you a tidy house, messy car type of person, messy home, messy home? tidy car type of person or I guess the extras would be tidy home tidy car messy home messy car I didn't uh yeah um hmm hmm hmm what are you so um I am very organized and I I definitely am a person who will install set up like I like to make space feel beautiful but within that I I definitely have that sort of neuro-spicy thing where I wind up making piles. And if the piles sit for

too long, then they just sort of exist. So I'm really trying to work on not letting like a little pile of books and papers just sit on the table for no reason, you know? Yeah, the doom piles. Yeah, the phrase that I've been sort of using as a mantra is don't touch it twice. Yeah, I've heard a version of that, which is don't put it down, put it away. It's the same kind of thing, like don't touch it twice. Yeah, for some reason the don't put it down, put it away, I get there's something about maybe it's the alliteration. I don't know, but don't touch it twice is so clear. to me because then I'm like, well, yeah, then I'm literally wasting half my time.

Yeah, if I put this down and then I have to put it somewhere else, I've doubled the amount of time I've had to touch this thing. That's stupid. So it helps me just kind of do what I need to do a little bit. That's so funny. My brain splits it where I'm like, I'm okay touching it twice, but the putting it away part of it goes, okay, I'm going to put it into the room where it belongs. So I'm only doing, but I think I'm splitting the work in half so it doesn't feel like I'm wasting time because it's still the same amount of work. I still have to walk into that room and put it away. But I'm just going to do the putting away part in a separate activity when I'm in that room, putting everything away that I had put in that room. Yeah, that was going to be my question. Do you organize, sometimes what I do, especially if I've, you know, been on location and I'm coming home and I have all this unpacking to do, I will, I will do a sort of. I will do a sort of. of organize my piles very specifically like all of this is work for office space all of this needs to go in the bathroom all of you know all of these items of clothing need to go on hangers and then

these items of clothing need to be folded and I'll get everything organized like that and then I'll go pile by pile and actually do it yeah yeah there's a lot of that too yeah yeah well well I have been keeping my cars pretty clean I have to say that's been one one thing that makes life a little it easier and makes me feel good. It's like doing your nails. You know, when my daughter's like, hey, can so-and-so get a ride home? I'm like, yes, and I'm not embarrassed. Get in the car. Yeah. Look at me, adulting. Oh, thanks, friends. Thanks for joining us. I can't wait to see you next week. Also, now that we're really down this organizing rabbit hole, what are you all doing at home? Send us your tips and tricks. I want to know what sort of hacks you've come up with. I want a list of all

the things you've purchased on Amazon or Wayfair or whatever that help you organize friends. Tell us what you're doing. Oh, my container store list is very good. It's very good. You can ever go on the container store website. I check that out. Oh my goodness. The container store for me. I love the container store like I love a public library. Oh yeah. Like it makes me feel alive. So good. Yeah. What makes you feel alive, friends? Tell us. We'll see you soon. Bye. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's O-T-H.

Or email us at Drama Queen's at I-HeartRadio.com. See you next time. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens. We need a smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl.

Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.