Drama Queens - Rocking the Boat • EP 912
Episode Date: October 27, 2025It’s the second to last episode of the series with Sophia at the helm as the episode's director and the Queens are feeling goosebumps galore.But despite the nostalgic early season callbacks, the...re were some major moments missing in this episode! From the actor who was mysteriously absent, to the one scene Sophia wishes hadn’t been cut! And let’s not forget Julian dropping those great Dirty Dancing lines, a theme of ultra-supportive partners melting hearts, and Richard Burgi taking his shirt off which sent everyone (and we mean everyone) swooning.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Charing for the right team
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Well, well gosh Sophia
They gave you the Burning Boat episode
The Penn Ultimate episode
It made me so emotional to watch this you guys
Me too
This was a great app
Oh, man.
All right.
Season 9, episode 12.
Anyone who had a heart.
All of us.
Air date March 28, 2012.
Okay, as Haley prepares to emce the annual Tree Hill Burning Boat Festival,
Brooke uses this opportunity to process her father's betrayal,
while Julian tries to breathe new life into a past idea.
Mouth and Millie make a change,
and what a change it is to their morning show.
And Clay and Quinn get ready.
for Logan's first night at the beach house, director, Sophia Bush.
Oh, which was me, darling.
Written by Brian L. Riding's.
He was a new writer on the show, I guess, right?
I don't recognize.
I didn't recognize his name.
Yeah, I think he was new for our last season.
And what a great episode.
The callbacks to early season, nostalgia, the kind of lessons you see all
of these adults that we've grown up with processing. I just, I loved it so, so much.
And there were so many pieces of nostalgia that were intentionally dropped in. I mean,
watching the boys on the river court, watching Brooke and Victoria back together,
Mouth and Millie back together. Well, Haley with Lydia a lot was great too, but being able to see,
I love that they just like threw Chase and Haley together for this whole episode since Nathan was
not around.
It was so sweet.
And being able to see Quinn and Clay finally coming together as a family, the family they've always wanted to be with Logan included now.
Getting to see Richard Bergey with his shirt off.
I mean, right?
What?
Like, okay, daddy.
Who knew that was the shirtless hunk this show had been missing the whole time?
I know.
I know.
My gosh.
You know, it was really fun to watch the, there's so much I remember about the.
episode obviously because I directed it and because it was so close to the end and there was so much
that I had pinging around in my brain and in my heart about what I wanted to make sure it felt
like as we began to close the box and then put the bow on it and wrap up our show and it was
really fun going into it thinking oh I can't wait to remember all of this and then to still be
surprised. I forgot that Julian was doing this practice pitch to Brooke and then it did that great
transition to find him in the pitch. What I remembered as soon as it started is Peter Kowalski,
our DP and I, worked really hard on these kinds of cool trick shots where the camera's pulling back
but also zooming in and it kind of changes the way the movements feel across the long dining room
table at Brook and Julian's house. And instantly I remembered this moment, you know, standing in my
wardrobe behind Video Village, watching them do it with second team and being like, okay, it's working.
Oh my God, we got it. This is going to be so great. And like those little things that they put
energy, you know, in the opening of the episode, I wanted the energy to feel up. I wanted it to feel
happy. And I think it did. It really did. And when you transition,
to him being in the actual boardroom.
Yeah.
Was that?
Because there's a picture over Julian's shoulder.
And it is either is or it's very intentionally reminiscent of the Warner Brothers Water Tower.
Yeah.
Yes.
Which, by the way, was a part of One Tree Hill, which is a part of the CW, you know.
So I wasn't certain if we were allowed to reference that or if you were just cheekily put in something that was nearly identical to it.
that I would imagine that was a decision made by the producers I do know we all were like it's he's like pitching the wb right like that's what we're doing um and and I liked in a way that the pitch got to go so well and also that it felt light despite the fact obviously that our writers were trying to poke fun at you know twilight and the vampire diaries and everything else it worked Austin delivered it with so much humor and the the the
kind of coyness between Brooke and Julian, I think, overshadowed what might have seemed petty
on the page. And then when he's in the room and her feedback, which seems silly and flirtatious,
actually works. And then we make fun of ourselves. And he's like, it doesn't have to be in a conference
room. It can be in a hot tub. Like, it just felt very correct. Here's my, here's my pitch that I
think this was a missed opportunity because we were at the end of our show. We totally could have
have done a spin-off that was the filmed version.
Yes.
Like Julian's version of Ravens.
Absolutely.
It could have started a whole new series where we just like took the characters in
different directions as you do and named them different names.
And by the way, it could have been like the office.
You could have watched everyone film a TV show.
Yeah.
You know, you could have been filming the filming of the TV show.
It could have been a really funny thing.
Even just like the meta, it would have been so meta.
As a fan as well, it would have been cool for Lucas to have been back in at least some capacity, seeing as how it's his book that's being pitched.
Even if it's just him and Julian like talking it out or something, I think the fans would have loved that.
And like, that's the most organic way to have him be there.
You know, it's his book.
It's his material.
Yes, especially because we did get that years ago, you know, we had.
Lucas and Julian working together, trying to make a project together. It was the whole,
we got James Vanderveek to come in as the, you know, the worst director ever. We've seen it
and it's worked and it would have been really fun to nod to that, that moment when, oh, we didn't
get to make Ravens as a movie, you know, an unkindness of Ravens as a movie. And now Julian's
going to do it as a show. It would have been so cool to offer that it was working to the writer.
What I will say is not having that character come back, what touched me and what I did forget
is that as Julian is pitching it, because Brooke is his wife, he pitches this story of all these
kids in high school in a way that kind of sounds like a love letter to her.
And the first version, you know, when they tried to make the movie, really wasn't.
She was so offended by her character write up and it all went so badly for that.
that they almost broke up.
And I was like, oh, my God, look at the way he's pitching this.
This is so sweet.
Like, if I'd actually been her, what I would have given to be a fly on the wall for this moment.
And I was really touched by that.
I didn't remember it.
Well, we didn't have James either.
Which is so weird.
So weird.
What was he doing?
Because I know, and I don't remember what, and I'd be, we should have asked him in Paris.
Did he direct the episode before this by chance?
No, he didn't, did he?
I don't think.
So I wasn't paying, sorry, I wasn't paying attention.
He was off editing.
But he had something going on this, you know, season nine special time, season nine miniseries,
because he negotiated to have a certain number of episodes off.
So, you know, that was the kidnapping storyline, was partially motivated by that.
But I couldn't believe that one of the episodes they gave him off was the second to last one.
I was like, hello?
Oh, he must have been filming or something and needed the week.
I will say, though, Joy, you did such a beautiful job
making Nathan's absence work as Haley
because the way that you shared, you know,
what was essentially expository writing to explain why he's gone.
You grounded it in such a place of,
I've really been through something with my person,
but our kid has been through it too.
Yeah.
And you put a real weight behind that.
And so even though it felt strange as a viewer to have Nathan missing,
your explanation of why and what Jamie needed and how you have to prioritize your kid above even yourself made the whole thing work for me.
So hats off to you.
Oh, thanks.
I think it's a reasonable.
I mean, we know as actors we're like, wait, we missed our character in the show.
But yeah, it is plausible for sure.
I think as a family, that's just what they would have needed.
And I really enjoyed seeing Haley just happy with Lydia.
It wasn't all the stress around the baby.
It feels like since Lydia was born, there was just stress, stress, stress, stress.
So this was nice.
Plus, I had my breastfeeding body, which was super fun to see.
All the baby waited dropped off and my boobs were big.
I was like, oh, that's fun.
You're like, hey, girl.
You know, who else's body was dramatically different was good old mouth.
Good old mouth.
Thank God we put that fat suit to bed.
Yes.
I'm sure he was thrilled as well.
Oh, to see Mouth and Millie in a scene that wasn't about that ridiculous storyline was so nice.
Yeah.
Them really getting back to themselves.
And I loved that the run, even though it came from a storyline,
we hated gave us the device to get to the river court with all the boys because seeing them
get back on the court and mouth doing his announcing like he did in season one even in the pilot
it hits you with that nostalgia and you remember how far these friends have come together and
and you know now so many of them have kids and it's like oh my god again just thinking about
what we wanted to call back from the beginning of the show as we were wrapping it up
I thought it was a great device for the writers to put all the boys there and then to bring
Millie there. And for that to be the place where she said to him, you miss sports. And yes, I want to
work with you and yes, I want to be with you every day. But I know you enough and love you
enough to know what you need. And that it wound up being, you know, the joke of like,
you're trying to get me fired. Like the whole thing just played so perfectly. But it really
struck me watching it that I'm so happy we shot that scene at the river court because in a way,
without having to say it, Millie was meeting a part of mouth that predates her, but it's so
central to who he is. And that's how your locations can become characters in your story.
And I thought it really, it just really added something for me watching it back now.
Every time they're on the river court. And there was quite a bit of that in this episode.
Yeah.
We didn't use it as much as I wish we had over the last few seasons.
Same.
Because it is such a central piece.
And I get that the boys weren't really playing basketball anymore.
So it just became this place that sometimes characters would go to stop and think
because it was some place they used to go.
It was like they're thinking spot.
Which was sweet.
But yeah, I was really happy to see that in this episode.
And you and I had a scene there.
Oh, let's talk about that.
That wind, baby.
It was so windy.
But it felt like it was only windy on my side.
I don't know if you noticed this.
No.
Every time they shot to you, your hair was perfect.
Your makeup was perfect.
The sun wasn't in your eyes.
It was just like, ah.
And then they cut to me.
And it was like the, the bizarro world version of it where I was like my eyes were,
you could see my mascara was down on my eyes because my eyes were watering from the sun being in there.
And my hair just could not be tamed.
And my makeup was, you know, my skin was like eating my.
makeup and all of it. I felt like, who did she play in Kate McKinnon and Barbie? What was that?
Yes. Oh, messy Barbie or whatever. Something like that. Yeah, I totally felt like that when it
made me laugh. But it was a really sweet scene. I loved seeing us together do that.
I loved it too. And I loved that because it was the burning boat, it gave us the device of people are
going to go sit at the river court and watch this thing get constructed. And I remember really, you know,
wanting to tell the story and the way I wanted to tell it as a director and really wanting to
fight for all these scenes to be there no matter what and then watching it back going oh yeah that's
why they hated shooting at the river court because of the wind because we had to ADR all the
dialogue we had to loop every single line they couldn't control the weather like it's such a disaster
transbow too because if it rained there was just we were in a pool everywhere you walked
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I have a question about the burning boat of it all.
Because I have only ever known like a burning boat type ceremony, like a Viking funeral, to be when the boat is actually on the water.
Kind of the point of it, it can burn itself all the way into the water.
So I was very surprised when it was a landlocked ship.
So was there ever talk in this episode?
out of it actually being a floating boat?
No, because we had done a burning boat
just like this in the high school years,
and it was in the exact same place.
Oh.
So it's like a town tradition.
Yeah, so when you open your speech,
you know, when Haley's talking and says,
you know, welcome back to our tradition,
we haven't seen it in, I don't know,
seven or eight seasons,
but apparently we do it every year.
And apparently that's the fireproof platform on the bricks.
Man, they really miss that too.
too, because that would have been a fun thing to do.
Like, everybody's guaranteed at the end of every season.
There's a burning boat episode and what's going to happen and all the drama.
Also, it's the 93rd annual burning boat.
Like, are you telling me they were burning boats on land and the like, you know, in 1900?
Like, no, come on.
You know that they were pushing those things out.
They didn't have a fireproof area.
But regardless, it still looked great.
But as soon as I started watching that and I saw that it wasn't going to go to the water,
I was like, I got to ask Sophie if she if she was pushing for that to be on.
water and maybe it was just like logistically impossible or something yeah i think it's i think it's a little
logistically impossible because you know when you when you remove the movie magic of it the boat is
burning most of the time with gas lines like little pipes that are letting flames out you can really
see it when it starts it's like little fingers of fire that aren't really touching anything and they
don't burn the boat for a day because you're filming all the stuff that happens before they really
soak it in whatever they soak it in and light it on fire. And so the boat ironically has to
burn, but also not burn. So it's part of the reason they keep it on land because they've got all the
tanks underneath it and all the things that allow them to control the fire for however many,
you know, nights of filming prior to the actual burn you have to do. And so that was a weird thing
too logistically sitting with the producers and going, well, how are we going to burn the boat
for hours before we burn the boat? Like fire is fire is fire. What do you mean? Yeah. And if you spray it
down, then it doesn't relight all of a sudden. Yeah. So there were all these crazy things that we had
to do. And there is one moment when it starts to burn. And you can really just see that it's all the
gas line tubes that made me cringe then and makes me cringe now. Because they were like,
don't worry, we'll never use the very beginning. And I'm like, you used the very beginning.
You never believe them when they say that. Never believe them. Actors, when people tell you,
we'll never use it. Do not believe the lies. Terrible. To the end, though, I did not notice that
shot. So that's, you only noticed it because you are aware of it. I don't, I doubt anyone else,
unless it's a fan who's watching it back for the fourth time or something. It's like,
why does the fire look weird? Yeah. Yes. You know what I really do love about the boat as much as I
hated the rigging. I love that it gave us a central place for people to gather. Like Joy was saying,
you know, even the Chase and Haley Runnings, you know, seeing Brooke and Victoria, I forgot about
the gag with the golf clubs for us. And trying to haul those up into the boat together is so
funny to me. And just watching everybody come to this place to put something down to try to get
rid of something and then Antoine being our star comedian with CDs it's such a good device
the the traditional moment yeah and also that's such a relatable human moment that of course someone
is just going to come and want to just dump their trash of course they are I don't need these
and that might not be good for the environment or for the cause I mean such a funny moment between
the two of you, Joy, because you having to be like, no, but you can't burn these. And you're like, but why?
And you're like, with it. And him leaving and you having to push the box down behind the pirate.
There were moments that I remember thinking, because of the set deck we had, like I want some of these
moments to almost feel a little campy, like Pirates of the Caribbean. And that was one of the
moments that really worked for me. And then I forgot that the payoff of you getting stuff.
with the CDs was finding the friends with benefit.
Yes, I love that.
And even bringing Peyton back into the fray, just was seeing her on the poster.
I feel like they did that every chance they could on the show.
Yeah.
Just bring in, you know, the people that we loved that weren't there anymore.
That made me happy to see they opened that poster.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Yeah.
Speaking of bringing people back, we had a fun little one-episode cameo by Miss Sasha
Jackson, Kylie.
Yes.
where I was like, what? Oh, okay, here's what I've seen this character in a while.
Wait, was she on the show before?
Yeah.
She was like sort of a fling of clays.
She's the one who swims naked in his pool.
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
She's the one Quinn dumps a smoothie on.
Yeah.
Man, I don't know why.
I guess just of all the storylines that I'm trying to hold in my brain, that one didn't
stick in.
But that makes so much more sense because my notes are like,
Why are we, not that I don't love, you know, she's a lovely actress,
but I was like, why are we wasting time on new characters that we don't know?
Like, we've got one episode left or two episodes now.
Like, what do we've got these twins that we're, now we're looking at this Australian girl?
I'm like, what's going on?
Why are we not paying attention to us?
It was like the cameos for people that we loved through the seasons got fit in here.
Yes, yes.
The one thing I like about that, though, is that we actually gave her,
Being there gave Jerry an opportunity to actually do something for the once.
And he was very funny with it.
Very funny.
Yeah.
Which I feel like he's been around so long that he deserved to have something that's like fun as opposed to just like, you shouldn't have done that.
You're fired.
You're on thin ice.
You know, actually got to be funny and be the butt of a joke.
And, you know, it was great.
And of course, we managed to put her in a bikini at the end of it.
Of course.
With the chicken head.
With a chicken head.
Why not?
Why not?
Even the chicken head got a cameo again.
That's the way to look at it.
But another great moment from that runner was when she freezes on air and just goes, wanker.
And then later, when it's mills and skills, reporting, he pretends to freeze and says winker.
And you're like, no way it's happening again.
And he's like, nah, I'm just messing with you.
It's immediately great.
Immediately, he's the best.
I completely forgot that we got million skills together.
Yeah.
And that, well, that it turned into mouth and skills.
Like, wait, am I saying it wrong?
Mills and skills.
Mills and skills.
And that's what he comes up with after his foe freeze.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm just messing with you.
You got Mills and Skills reporting.
And he's just like, he's got the ad libs.
He's got the jokes.
Oh, yeah.
He's perfect for this job.
I just love seeing them together again and love that we gave Antoine something to do that was like real and integral, you know, getting back into involved in the storyline where he has, he's going to have some agency and actually something to do rather than just reacting to everybody else's stuff.
I thought that was always, that's always really fun.
I also loved that that came about from Millie and mouth standing up to Jerry.
and Jerry getting his real great comedy moment
and then saying, well, fine, you come up with a co-host
and in unison immediately they both say skills.
It's like they know what the show needs.
They know what the town needs.
And it's right.
It's like a perfectly correct move.
And then you see the payoff at how good he is.
And it, I don't know, maybe I'm thinking about it
because I just interviewed Carson Daley on my other show
and was talking about like our early T.R.
days. And I was like, oh, my God, Skills is giving me full TRL, Carson Daily, VJ, like, perfection.
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Stoned.
But three times.
John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive, and they're devoted to each other.
They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular her.
home, high on the top of a hill.
But little by little, their dream starts to crumble.
And our couple retreat from reality.
They lose it. They actually lose it.
They sort of went nuts.
Until one night, everything spins out of control.
Listen to Hell in Heaven on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The rich Russians fall.
and out of Windows podcast is back.
Sad oligarch season two.
Since we left you in 2023 after season one,
many politically motivated Russia millionaires
have continued to die in suspicious circumstances.
We dig deeper into these odd deaths,
which include everything from mushroom poisoning
and mysterious heart attacks
to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation.
One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find.
Not just that, it seems as if state-controlled media in Russia is being utilised to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out.
As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird.
Listen to Sad Ologac on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Bridger Wyniger, embattled host of the podcast I said no gifts from the exactly right network.
I make myself perfectly clear to my guests.
I forbid gifts of any kind.
And yet every Thursday they barge in with atrociously wrapped trinkets and we have no choice but to discuss them.
Take Zach Woods, who classlessly stormed into the podcast while disregarding my only request.
When you came trotting into my backyard, and I don't want to assume, but I'm going to, it's a gift for me.
That's right.
Thank you for describing my walk as a trot.
I think of myself as a dressage horse, first and foremost.
As a gracious host, I try not to humiliate my guests, but sometimes I can't help it.
Like when Iowa Debris stopped by...
What else are you doing with your time besides napping on the couch like a slob?
Okay, my mother is the angel investor to this podcast, I see.
This is what I endure.
Wonderful guests, unspeakable rudeness.
I Said No Gifts drops every Thursday from the exactly right network.
Listen to I Said No Gifts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hello, my little spirits inspectors.
I'm Roz Hernandez, here to tell you it's always spooky season
un-ghosted by Roz Hernandez.
Each week, I invite comedians and celebrities
to share their funniest, freakyest,
and most unforgettable encounters with the paranormal,
like when Bob the drag queen told me about a bedtime visitor.
You kind of look like the girl from the grudge.
Sleep paralysis is terrified.
My guest says sheers-a-maida will give you goosebumps and may just help you with real estate.
I got the voodoo doll and I was like, look, I didn't want to bother you, but I really want this house.
And I did get the house.
So light a candle, grab your Ouija board and get haunted with me every Monday on Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, part of the exactly right network.
Listen to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
How great was Julian in this episode?
That was my next thing.
This dirty dancing moment was so funny when he's trying to give a speech to your dad.
And he's like, I will not let anyone put her in a corner.
And please don't stop taking me seriously because I just used a dirty dancing.
Yeah.
Despite my dirty dancing.
references, I will continue to reprimand you for being a less than father.
And then even when, you know, he's like, what kind of person would do that hint?
It rhymes with thick.
And then I like, it was so funny that he's, it's somehow funny when he's also really
sticking the landing of being like, it's dick, which is funny because like everyone knows
what it is.
But then he goes, it's dick, Ted.
You're a dick.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
And I was like, that was so cathartic to watch.
I was like, oh my God, that would, like, there was such a strong theme in this episode of partners.
Yes.
And the way partners are friends and their teammates and how they are showing up for each other.
It's Millie potentially losing her love as a co-host because she sees he could be happier doing something else.
It's Julian going to bat with Brooke's dad because he knows she deserves better.
It's Quinn putting up the picture of Sarah in Logan's room.
That was so good in the best way.
This show, it's like we've talked about this before, but like this show is about
relationships, about, like, and friendships.
I remember saying this like very early on doing this podcast with you, but that's, like,
I saw so much of that.
I feel like when the show was really shining, it's often around the theme of like
friendships and relationships.
And this episode delivered.
Like everyone got to have that.
Haley and Chase, even so, Brooke's parents.
Yes.
the like the partnership that they were trying to figure out like yes i agree with you wholeheartedly
and something i really loved is that every single leading man on our show took a beat to thank his
woman because we haven't seen that a lot and and rob you even talked about it a couple weeks ago
even what quinn has been patient with put up with like the way people stay you know
each of you, you with her and Julian with Brooke and Lee and Mouth with Millie,
you know, we had these scenes where each man said, hey, I need to tell you something.
I need to thank you for the way that you show up.
I need to thank you for the way that you support me.
I need to thank you for the way that you believe in me.
And it was just so lovely.
And for all the grotesquely, stereotypically masculine ick we've gotten on our show over the years,
including putting Kylie in the bikini and the chicken head in this episode.
Like, these were such moments of shining heroic masculine goodness and like emotional intelligence.
And it just, it was gorge.
Like I loved watching all three of you in those scenes.
I, it was just like, it was a little boat for me for sure.
I was really happy to see Clay and Quinn together, like the way that you guys,
I, it felt, it felt like we were finally getting, I guess I said it before, like this,
this family that we always finally wanted to, you guys to settle into and Logan coming in
and the model airplane, but the way that Quinn,
supported you even bringing in the photo and setting down the photo of Sarah and like oh it broke my
heart in the best way I just felt like this is what a real partner does yeah you're I I embrace all
of you in terms of the you know clay thanking Quinn Julian thanking Brooke I also I related to it
you know I identified with that like I have that in my own marriage in my relationship you know
where there are moments where Jenny speaks confidence and support into me at a time when
like I really need it, you know, and it's a team sport.
And so our wins, our team wins.
So I just thought that was a nice moment because it not only was it beautiful, it's just,
it's so real and authentic that I think a lot of people can relate to.
And Pierce, are you kidding?
When he's looking at the ocean and he says, does it get any closer?
because he's afraid of the ocean, and he backs up.
I was like, protect this child at all costs.
Yeah.
I know.
Just so sweet.
And having the element, you know, as you're saying, to honor all of a person, you know,
when you fall in love with someone who comes from things,
they bring those things into your relationship.
And to love someone who's been through grief is a big thing.
And to watch Clay and Quinn have navigated grief, you know, and then all the jumping the shark stuff in between and now be navigating with this little boy to have the totality of it in this little cocoon.
That was one of the things that I remember talking to set deck about.
And I really wanted the cocoon to be a warm color, the tent, sorry, because I wanted it to feel like a cocoon.
and we found this like butterfly wing orange tent so that it would really feel like they went
into this bubble and they came out as a better version of something and and it worked and even like
we made i don't know if you remember rob but we made a projector light we did a stencil of the green
lantern symbol and we made a tiny projector light that we had to hide in the in between you guys in
between the um yeah like the sleeping bags so that when pierce comes up into frame with the ring that you need to propose
and then she puts it on we wanted to cheat that like in a superhero movie like a bat signal the ring
would shine through the roof of the tent but we had to make a light to do it because obviously it was like a teeny tiny thing
that didn't have that much power and seeing it again i remember sitting in the chair watching you guys on monitor
like in tears because it worked but seeing it 10 years later like watching as a fan on my giant
TV I was sobbing I was like oh my God it works so special they deserve this and and it even to like
the writing of it it was I love so there's like there's just such respect right because I understand
first of all Clay has no idea what he's doing he's just trying his best as is Quinn as is Logan right
But I understand why Clay might not have put a picture of Sarah up because he's not sure how that's going to make Quinn feel.
You know, and he's navigating this for the first time.
She's being incredibly supportive.
So I'm like, I understand why Clay might not have done that.
Yeah.
Respect.
And then I, but the fact that Quinn is the one to be like, no, this needs to be here.
She's showing like respect for Sarah and respect to Clay and Logan.
And then the fact that then like that Logan then sort of.
gives permission for like them all to be a family by taking the picture of the three of them
and putting it in the frame next to Sarah was so beautiful.
So smart.
Oh, it was so good.
I was thinking that I really missed seeing you guys with everybody at the burning boat,
but it felt so right to have this time of rest and connection for the three of you
that as much as it was like, oh, I wish it would have been fun to have like all of our faces
there, but this is what Quinn and Clay needed. This is the cap on this long, the bow, if you will,
on this long story, this long journey that they've been on together. Yeah, it was all right.
And I appreciated that a lot of the humor in the episode, which you needed because you were
getting such big emotional payoffs, I appreciated that the humor wasn't,
so outlandish, even with you three, you know, trying to work with him to not be afraid of
the ocean. And you're like, oh, my God, and he's here with us and his grandparents and he can't sleep
and it's this thing. And then his mom who passed away. And, you know, Quinn's like, it's the
immensity. I totally get it. And he's like, I'm scared of sharks. Oh, my gosh. Yes. And it's like,
it just, it pierced so good. It, like, let just a little of the emotional pressure out in the most
perfect way that was so sweet and you remember like oh yeah he's he's also just six yeah he's a kid
totally do that as as parents and adults like project all this stuff like do you are you subconsciously
feeling like yeah so like no i've just afraid of sharks that's yeah yeah he's like first of all
I don't know what immensity means and second of all have you heard of sharks yeah see monsters
like it's just perfect he yeah he was great
And as much as I have issues with the road we took to get here, boy, this is a really nice destination.
And I was talking with, we were at a convention last weekend.
I was talking with some fans.
I was finding myself asking, like, what's your favorite season?
And it was really interesting to hear what people thought.
And then someone asked me, and I was saying, you know, I've only seen 7, 8, 9, but I got to say for as much as I have kind of ripped on
season nine for the first half of it, it is giving such a strong finish that it is becoming a
contender for my favorite season.
Yeah.
I love that.
I also have to give, speaking of comedy, I have to give the most amazing props to my parents.
Daphne, I was going to say, when you walk into that hotel room, she's so good.
Richard just crushed this.
And even, it's funny, when I realized,
oh, this is the episode where Brooke catches them,
I went back to watch us putting the golf clubs in the boat.
And she's like, you know, maybe you should just hear her about.
And she has just a hint of something.
And I look at her and she goes, you know, so we can make fun of him.
Or whatever, you know, if for nothing else,
then to seem foiling in the wind.
Like, she covers, but Daphne's so good that she had a little something
under what she was saying then.
So when you get into the hotel room and it's like the robe and then the bed and then the hair and then the dund of the chocolate covered strawberries, which for whatever reason are the hotel sex giveaway, it's she just crushes, crushes.
Let me give you some props because no one plays horrified like you.
And you are so good with comedy, but I got to tell you, the, you know, comedy comes in threes.
And so there's when, when Richard comes out, shirtless, looking like he's chiseled from stone.
That's incredible, by the way.
What are you doing, sir?
I mean, making all the right choices, apparently.
I watched that scene.
I was like, I got to go for a jog.
Honestly, same.
But so he, so you, so Brooke, you did an amazing face and you're like, oh, my God.
And you leave the room, and there's a beat.
And then Richard says, or then Ted says to Victoria, funny, that's what you were saying last night.
There's our second.
And then from out on the other side of the door, you hear Brooke go, oh, my God.
Again.
Yes.
So good.
And then Daphne picks it up and goes, oh, my God.
And it's just the timing.
I remember when we were getting that and needing to figure out how.
I could start to back out of the room in just the right way so that he could come out of the door
and we could smack into each other. And I remember telling Maddie, our camera operator,
when we do it, keep the frame above his towel because I want the audience for a minute
to think Brooke has just slammed into her naked dad. And then when we start to move, you see that
he has a towel around him. But for a moment, it's like, I mean, it's already the worst thing that could
happen, but it seems even worse. And then the cacophony of, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh, my God.
Like the build, you think it's over when Daphne does the slow burn one. And then when they walk
into Brooke and Julian's and it happens again, it's like that kind of comedic writing and timing
is my very favorite thing in the world to play. Yeah. When he squeezes her butt,
when they are leaving your apartment, and then Julian does it.
It does it back.
And you're like, ew, no.
Oh, it's so good.
Wait, I want to go back to the beach scene for a second because I noticed, and I was just
curious if you caught this or if you remembered this, that when Quinn is getting Logan
to walk out into the water and we are shooting out into the ocean, did you notice that there
was just a random dude in the water in the background?
Like a surfer?
No, just like a dude.
I didn't see that.
Like half of a guy.
And then it's funny because then the camera kind of crops him out.
And I was laughing and like, I wonder if it was just someone swimming.
And you guys were like, get the rando out of the shot.
Like, what are you doing, sir?
Which, by the way, totally okay.
Clay lives on a public beach.
But it's just funny because those moments you're not used to seeing someone who's not in the show, just like casually filling in the corner of a frame.
And when they're cropped out, like clearly, I was saying Matt Dollar, camera operator, I'm sure it was just like slightly moving the camera.
Yeah, let me do this slow so you don't really notice, but I fix the problem.
That's so great.
I love seeing, I love watching that on shows when you can spot a problem and you see the camera of just slightly moving.
Comedy didn't stop there because we had old Chase bringing it with the totally not a cry for help runner in that scene with Haley, which was, he was so good in this episode.
I mean, we say this about Stephen all the time, but this stuff was funny but also really grounded.
Yeah.
He just never tries too hard.
It makes me so happy.
when I watch him like oh I can relax I don't you know there's there's a
an anxiety I feel as a as a viewer when I'm watching an actor that I feel like is trying
really hard I just get a little like I don't know what what is your expectation of me
and like not even the same room with the person it was filmed you know a year ago but I'm
watching it like oh god I don't know how to react to this yeah but Stephen's just so easy
to watch because he's he's just so unconcerned with with anything I mean he's just so
natural. I don't know how else to say it. I also like that he leaned into the stress and the
nervousness and nothing is working and I don't know how I'm going to pay for all of this.
You know, these are real world problems. And he's leaning into them with, you know, the best
listener. He's talking to Haley, but also like, Haley's a rock star who's married to a basketball
player. And then it's like that dawns on him and he looks at you and just so deadpan, not a cry for
help. It's like, I'm not meaning to stress you out for as much as I'm stressed out. And it's the
dryness that makes it so funny, but also lets you hold the emotion underneath it. It's so
well played on his part. And also a hilarious, very small hint of a callback to Haley working
at the Crisis Center. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. Good old.
Haley always there for advice when someone needs it. Did we ever find out? Because I know at the end,
you know, Haley's like, what if you just, what if the bar was yours? Like, what if you just bought it?
Yeah. Yeah, I'm broke. So no. And Haley says some to the effect of like, I have an idea.
I have an idea. We didn't hear the plan for that, correct? I didn't miss that. No, she just goes to
Karen, I guess, and has a conversation with her, which definitely annoyed me that we didn't have
more back on the show for that episode. I don't know, remember if we got her back for
next one but we'll find out well the pebble that we drop is the friends with benefit uh flyer that
you find yeah and obviously we know how the next episode ends so you can kind of imagine that we do a big
fundraiser to buy the bar i would bet oh okay yeah i bet is the is the is the plan it's it's very cool
the nods to high school and you know they managed to tell a story i do wish we'd had moira um i i remember a few
things you know just sort of from behind the scenes directing like i'd wanted a photo i'd wanted
haley to get a text message of a photo of nathan and jamie camping like we could have just taken it
in the back of the studio against a tree like whatever and it was one of those things because we were
rapping in November and then these episodes were going to air like March and April they were like
yeah yeah yeah we'll get it and then I watched the final cut and I'm like nobody nobody remembered my
note um and there was a a thing as well where I remember because of the boat the way we did it they
hadn't set up like a like a side container to do inserts of burning we were going to do it at
the studio and then we ran out of time and then they were like oh we'll do it during the finale and then
obviously it didn't happen. So you miss Brooks' diary burning, which was one of those things I
wanted because the diary was such a runner in the episode. Yeah. And I loved that it called us back,
kind of like the boys in the river court. I love that we got the call back to the early seasons
because Rob, there's this voiceover that I have, I think it's maybe top of season three or maybe
it's season two, running like in the morning sneaking out of a boy's house that I've slept over at,
sneaking back into mine, being like, you know, good girls keep diaries and bad girls don't have
time. So that's why when Brooke brings Julie in the diary and is like, I used to say I didn't
keep one of these, it's just because I didn't want anyone to find it. And then you hear about all
the turmoil at home and the parents' arguments. And, you know, we don't talk to each other. We've
never sat together. That's the runner that gets you to the end. Again, our final picnic table moment.
at the River Court with this family finally sitting together.
And I was like, my burning journal shot is missing from this moment right before the fireworks.
But it's fine.
I'll get over it.
I did love that moment, though.
I mean, the over-the-shoulder shot of those U-3, like just onto the burning boat, onto up into the fireworks, that big crane shot.
Was it a crane or a drone at this point?
Yeah, it was a crane.
And those were Viz FX, right?
Yeah, the fireworks were fake.
What do you think was on the one page of Brooks' diary that she tore out and wouldn't let Julian see?
Yeah.
I would imagine, here's my thought.
Because there was the overlap in season six where Julian and Lucas worked together, I imagine it was a story about Lucas that she was like, let's not, let's not bring that into my husband's memory.
Like, because not only to rip it out, but then to eat it, to stop him from seeing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
So fun.
We had fun on this show.
I do remember shooting this episode.
It's like not super clear, but I do feel the nostalgia that we all felt when we were walking around downtown.
Like, oh my gosh, we're doing another burning boat.
my gosh, this is almost over. Wow. Really, it was like a time when we were all really soaking up
our time with each other, knowing that we only had one more left. Yeah. It's only a few weeks left.
It really kicked into our brains. A lot of us, I think all of a sudden we're like,
okay, we're not dealing with crazy storylines. We don't have anything insane happening where we
really have to focus and be stressed out at long hours or late nights. It was just, we were just hanging
all together.
Yeah.
It was just so sweet.
Only one more left.
Only one more left.
No.
Oh, my gosh.
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In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven,
two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start.
over. But one will end up dead. The other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild.
Not twice. Stunned. But three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive, and they're
devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home
high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble.
And our couple retreat from reality.
They lose it. They actually lose it.
They sort of went nuts.
Until one night, everything spins out of control.
Listen to Hell in Heaven on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Rich Russians Falling Out of Windows podcast is back.
Sad Olegarch Season 2.
Since we left due in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires
have continued to die in suspicious circumstances.
We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning
and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation.
One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious
deaths has become much harder to find.
Not just that, it seems as if state-controlled media in Russia is being utilized to
purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out.
As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird.
Listen to Sad Oligarch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Bridger Weiner, embattled host of the podcast I said no gifts from the exactly right network.
of perfectly clear to my guests. I forbid gifts of any kind. And yet every Thursday, they barge in
with atrociously wrapped trinkets, and we have no choice but to discuss them. Take Zach Woods,
who classlessly stormed into the podcast while disregarding my only request. When you came
trotting into my backyard, and I don't want to assume, but I'm going to, it's a gift for me.
That's right. Thank you for describing my walk as a trot. I think of myself as a dressage horse,
first and foremost. As a gracious host, I try not to humiliate my guests, but sometimes I
can't help it. Like when Iowa DeBerry stopped by...
What else are you doing with your time besides napping on the couch like a slob?
Okay, my mother is the angel investor to this podcast, I see.
This is what I endure. Wonderful guests, unspeakable rudeness.
I Said No Gifts drops every Thursday from the exactly right network.
Listen to I Said No Gifts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
Hello, my little spirits inspectors. I'm Roz Hernandez. Here to tell you, it's
Always spooky season, un-ghosted by Roz Hernandez.
Each week, I invite comedians and celebrities to share their funniest, freakyest,
and most unforgettable encounters with the paranormal,
like when Bob the drag queen told me about a bedtime visitor.
You kind of look like the girl from the grudge.
Sleep paralysis is terrified.
My guest says Shares Ameta will give you goosebumps,
and may just help you with real estate.
I got the voodoo doll, and I was like, look, I didn't want to bother you.
but I really want this house.
And I did get the house.
So light a candle.
Grab your Ouija board and get haunted with me every Monday on Ghosted by Roz Hernandez.
Part of the exactly right network.
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Cody's question is, One Tree Hill was my show growing up.
Everyone knew it.
That night each week, the family TV was mine.
I wept when the series ended.
OTH absolutely shaped me in a lot of ways.
When it ended, I felt like a little part of me died.
I know I'm being dramatic, but hey, I learned from the best.
I want to know, what is your One Tree Hill?
What is the show, movie, book, et cetera, that shaped you and played a massively
influential role in your life.
Oh, my gosh, I wish I'd read this question.
before now. I know to think about it. I have answers in chunks. So, like, college going into
filming One Tree Hill, sex in the city was it for me. I'd never seen women's stories told that way.
Women shot that way. Women centered that way. It really influenced so much of how I felt about
our show. I think about after our show wrapped, being home and Jenny and I going like so deep on
orphan black and just being obsessed and watching, you know, what was what was possible in
story. And then I think about, you know, in my adult life, like lately it's the books that have
really impacted me. Like Maggie Smith's book, you could make this place beautiful. Like it is like
a religious text for me. Prior to that in between these times, Cheryl Strayed, tiny beautiful
things. I read it every year, once a year. It's a tradition.
Like, I think there are the stories that find you for these moments in your life.
And I think it's why hearing things like this from people like you, Cody, is so meaningful
because for us to have been such a part of your life is, I don't know.
Like, we have that.
And it's really profound.
So thank you for sharing.
What do you guys have?
Do you do them in chunks too?
Or do you think it's like one thing?
Yeah, mine's in chunks.
I mean, it doesn't have the same emotional weight, but I love Lucy really.
I mean, I just, I grew up watching it from when I was a kid and I continue to watch it.
It's still on in my house on Saturday mornings.
It's just, I, she's just such a genius.
And it's so fun.
I never stopped laughing at it.
Yeah.
And the Twilight Zone, I think really, I always had a very, even from when I was a kid or like
adolescent, the concept of.
mortality was not a fearful thing for me. So I wasn't afraid of the macabre or the things that were
bizarre. I was really intrigued and wanted to understand more. So I really liked the Twilight Zone
because it explored a lot of those themes in a way that was fun. And then, I mean, I'm trying
to think of the thing that really got me emotional. The show that ended that I felt emotional,
I was like, how am I going to, how am I going to keep moving after this is done?
I'm kind of embarrassed to say it because I feel like you guys are going to laugh at me.
But it's so cliche.
Game of Thrones.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
It's so cliche.
Don't apologize for that.
But like, I was, okay, I was going through my divorce while, like, Tyrion Lannister was getting beaten down, beaten down.
And I was like, I just desperately need.
an underdog to win in something in my life. I need to see that like really amazing things can
happen for people that are like down at their worst. And and he won that battle like the huge
battle. If you're a fan of Game of Thrones, you know which one I'm talking about. I don't even
know how to name them because I wasn't that kind of a fan where I knew the details. I just was like
a character fan. But he basically wins this massive, massive, massive battle for his, his family or
is it for someone else's family?
I can't even remember.
It was a huge battle that he won,
and he's this tiny guy.
And then as a story kept going,
I just fell so deeply in love with these characters
and their humanity and it deeply connected with me.
So when it was over,
I was really sad.
I felt like I lost a lot of friends all of a sudden.
Yeah.
Man, I would, for me, it's same with chunks.
And as far as things being influential,
it's really, it's been all comedy.
for me because like I remember watch the first time I watched wet hot American summer
there were jokes in that that I remember thinking I didn't know you could do that like I
remember ending that movie and I felt like oh like new neural pathways new wrinkles are in my
brain because I wasn't even aware that that was an option like it was like someone went
hey by the way we have four new colors of crayons and I was like holy shit seriously so like that
like kiss kiss bang bang i had never seen humor and dialogue intertwined so seamlessly and i was
like i guess this is an option we can do this you know and then it's like the west wing
yes yes yes arrested development i was like i had no idea we could do this so for me it's been
comedies where like i feel like oh like there's been a new part of my brain has opened up that i can
now play in that i didn't even know existed yeah i love that especially you're right comedy
can crack expectation in a way that I think sometimes drama doesn't like I had that same feeling
watching parks and wreck I was like this can be work this can be what we do oh my god like oh it's so
fun it's probably also because I think humor is my strike zone like it's my love language it's
my self-defense tool it's kind of my Swiss army knife so I think it makes sense that the most
impactful stuff has been when it is geared towards that, you know?
Yeah.
Great question, Cody.
Oh, that's such a good question.
We should start a podcast, Cody.
I guess let's spin a wheel, guys.
Let's do it.
Second to last wheel.
Oh, this one is great.
Most likely to text their ex during Mercury retrograde.
that's so funny i'm going to say it's not any of the boys because i don't think any of us would
know when mercury is in retrograde i don't usually know either i mean i guess sometimes i feel
weird and then i find out later that mercury was in retrograde and i'm like oh i guess that's a habit
you know what what character i actually think it is chase yes that boy loves to text his ex
that's very on point for this episode and you know what who's going to be talking more about mercury
retrograde than some sad person sitting at a bar so he would overhear it and probably get a little
swept away in the story and then decide to text one of the ladies who he was deleting from his
phone in this very episode perfect that's the answer go sign all right uh join us next week because we have
a kind of a big episode in that it's the final episode season nine episode 13 couldn't think of a better title
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