Drama Queens - The Girls Are Back In Town: Live with Danneel Ackles and Bevin Prince

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

Danneel Ackles and Bevin Prince are back with Sophia for another round of live fan questions straight from Wilmington! The girls dive into why they never drove fancy cars while filming, reveal their favorite Brooke eras, and explore the friendship Sophia wishes had been a bigger part of the show. Plus, a fan question catches Sophia completely off guard, leaving her utterly speechless!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.

We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl. Drama girl. Cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama, Queens. Hi, everyone. Welcome back to a very special episode of Drama Queens. As you may have heard, we all got to spend a couple of days in Wilmington together recently. You all submitted such

great questions to us online through the Drama Queen's account. And we're here with everyone. So we also want to ask the fans what their questions are from the audience. Let's keep it going. Hi. I'm Kaelin. I'm from Richmond, Virginia, and there's actually a little bit of goodies from Richman, Virginia over there for you. You mentioned the best cookies here in Wilmington. Here are the best cookies from Richmond, Virginia. I'm so sorry, they're not packaged better. I'll just be looking while you ask your questions. Please do. Oh, my God, and there's wine in here. It's actually moonshine. Wow. Talk dirty to me. She said, I'll see your Vino and raise you.

Look at this. All. Three for us. Thank you. Yes. But I wanted to give you guys a gift because your art matters. It's what got me here. It's what got us here.

And I just want to know who would you give the words, your art matters. It's what got me here too. And who would you like to hear them from? Oh. I know. I know. Go. That's a good question.

My instinct just has dropped this mic, but I'm not going to do that to you. My brain immediately was like, obviously, Melissa Etheridge and Oprah. Those women raised me. But from? I don't have an answer for that yet. Let me think. Honestly, I watched the movie Beaches probably 7,000 times. a week when I was little.

I knew the whole, I knew every dance routine. I couldn't decide if I wanted to be well, I was the bet. But I wanted to be Hillary Whitney. Danielle, you're 72. Most of these people haven't seen beaches. But when we had a line about beaches in the, and I was

like, this is full circle moment for me. And I got to meet Bet Midler, which was so wild and I was with my mom, and it was just amazing. I'll never forget it. It's the most L.A. I've ever felt in my life. I was having a lunch with my manager, and he was like, oh, Bet's there. Do you want to meet her?

And I was like, I don't even think I talked. I just walked over to the table, and I was like, I might have hugged her, I don't know, kissed her. I don't know what I did. I blacked out, you know, how that happens. But definitely, I think, bet. And then who would want to hear it from? I know that's hard. Danielle, your art matters.

It was me. I'm going to put him on the spot, but like my husband. Ooh. He probably has said that to me before, but you know how sometimes we just aren't ready to hear things. Well, he might not have said it to you in the exact quote from Montreal. Right. That would be weird.

But if you think we're not going to side-text him later, I'll let him know, don't we? Just send her a text that says, your art matters. Trust me. Don't ask. Don't ask questions. I'm going to take a spin on this, and this feels a little unfair. but I'm going to do it because I feel like art comes in so many different types of forms

and I think watching someone master and create and build a life so beautiful for themselves has been my sister and yeah when she looks at what oh you met her oh you saw her you've known her forever you saw her I literally just was like oh my god I forgot to text you the picture I was thinking about about how Ashland, can someone come and get this wine? Ashlyn met her. I know, I know. And I got to introduce them, and literally her sister was like, you know, my sister loves you. And Ash was like, I know, I love her.

It's really my dad that's obsessed with your girl. I know. But my sister has, she's just someone who does everything with really incredible intention. And when she views anything that I do as on par or even. close to what she's doing, I feel humbled and incredibly grateful. Thank you. Go Mickey. She's the shit.

Hi, I'm Addie. I'm from Op, Alabama. I'm trying not to sound like a hick. Alla. You're perfect. Alba. I actually did go to Alabama, though, so we're not that crazy. Roll-tide, though.

Roll-tide. but my question is did y'all like when y'all were filming feel like it was something that was going to be so generational obviously because it is situations that are so relatable maybe not the high school marriage but

feeling like you're alone and you know like the boy drama and I don't know it's just something that I feel like so many can relate to and have not felt alone because of y'all show so did it feel like that at the time I felt like we were filming a show that was just for us.

Because we weren't in L.A. we were here, and everyone in this community was really supportive, but no one was, it wasn't like there were tons of fans standing outside watching us all the time. It just didn't feel, it felt like we were doing something that was a school play.

Yeah, more like, just for us. Yeah, we were excited by it. Yeah, I think, and we've, met a lot of people, you know, I think like the OC and like gossip girl, all these other things that were going on at the same time and their experience was not this. So I'm always grateful to this place that they let us have this very private, wonderful experience. Yeah, and I think I think there really is something to how lucky we were to be here, but how being here made it impossible to know what was happening everywhere else.

And then even to Dee's point, like, we were just kind of bopping around town. And then when there were lots of people, you know, by the time we got to points where Front Street was, like, covered in people, then you had peers in the industry being like, you guys don't film on a secure lot? Oh, they, like, don't care if you guys get shot.

Like, that's fucking crazy. And we were like, oh. We were like, should we be worried? We were like, wait. what? Like, what do you mean? We think our fans are really nice. You know, spoiler alert, you are. But like, it was this weird thing where no matter what was happening, the feedback we were getting was that it was like because of whatever was happening. It wasn't a big deal. And so the really interesting thing I think about it has been realizing, you know, in the later years certainly, and really since it wrapped, realizing how global it is, realizing how, you know, there's folks that we've met in rooms like this that are our age who started watching the show alongside us and now they're coming here with their teenagers that have the names of our characters and their teenagers

are all watching it with their friends. And we're like, can you believe for nine years we thought we were going to get canceled every year. And, like, we're not even a new show and all these new people. That's why none of us drove nice cars. See, there is a thing in L.A. And if we had been in L.A., this would have happened to us. If you book a pilot in L.A., you buy a Range Rover or Mercedes immediately because you're like, I'm famous.

I'm going to be so rich. And then your show gets canceled, and you have to turn your car back in because you can't afford the lease. But over here, we were just kind of like, okay, well, this is probably going to end at any moment, we better like, you know, just be cool. Don't freak out and like, I don't know.

Like in season eight, three of us were sharing an apartment in downtown over a bar that like the walls would vibrate at night and I'd be like, I just want to go to sleep. But it was really cheap, and it felt smart because we really thought

we were like a hair away from always losing our job. And now people are like, crazy cultural phenomenon and we're like yeah maybe we should have asked for a raise i don't know thank you hi my name is riss i'm originally from akron ohio but i just moved here a month ago for one tree hill my question was for each of you which brook arrow is your favorite and why oh my god wait are we equating brook davis with taylor swift yes you guys I don't know, you go. Well, I mean, because high school, Brooke,

oh, are Brooke that saved my life. Sorry, Brooke that saved my life, that era. That was big of you. Thank you. Even though your boyfriend was slapping me in the shower. It was so scary. What happened on this show? When I left, what happened?

A lot. You were getting slapped? Yeah. I believe that was the only way to revive me from some sort of heroin overdose. You were on heroin? I think so. Was it heroin?

It must have been said... I don't know, but it was very extreme. I like bikes. I don't know. I'm not sure. I missed a lot here. I appreciate life-saving Brooke. Era of Life Saving Brooke.

I like Brooke that is like Bossbrook. You've always been Bossbrook though. Like, well, Brooke has always been Bossbrook. You know what I'm getting at. But also, Sophia has always been. So you like close over bros era? Which era? No, I'm getting to it.

Don't rush her. Rush. Don't rush. Oh, she's so good at. I don't know where I got this from. I've never even listened. of this stuff before. I really love

I love the fact that you took charge always in every situation and made sure people were taken care of. And I think that is a through line for Brooke. It's like ultimately who Brooke was. So I don't think there's a specific era for her. For me it was always like,

basically, obviously we understand that things get crossed here and that is a very Sophia thing. And I am very partial to that because I've always been very taking care of by Sophia and yeah you sweet soul um it's funny because when I think about like the things I really enjoyed I think you know we Easton we're in season eight of the podcast um I really like looking back on the the physical comedy kind of fight between

Brooke and Sylvia I really enjoy um you know the big bridge episode with the car accident and Jamie like it's my favorite kind of genre of like action vibe but also I'm just like hanging out with a kid which clearly I like to do hi little baby um but but yeah looking back on it I also like when she's kind of nuts like how fun when she she just doesn't care um and I like that It reminds me to just not worry so much, I think. Because her values were set. Her values stayed in place. So if she went crazy, it was okay that she went crazy or crazy, you know.

Whenever I hear someone say, she's crazy, I go, what did you do to her? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Her values were set. Thank you. So what she said for me. so my name's Sydney I'm actually here from New Hampshire this is my first solo trip that's where Jenny woman and chair is from

oh my gosh yeah woman in chair so my question is I was wondering if you have a favorite outfit from any of your episodes any season definitely got a lot of my fashion info from the show so I was curious I remember mine clear as day yeah and it was the moment that we just decided to let Bevan go off the rails and it was us in the wardrobe department and I said give me that pink top and it was like a pink low cut tight top and a purple tiered skirt that barely covered my bum barely covered it and I was like I understand her now for the first like it was like as soon as I got that wardrobe thing right I was like I know exactly where we're going with this and I'll never forget it.

wardrobe is very important. I like the cat suit when we broke into the school. When we broke into the school. Yeah. I love the cat suits. We were so cute in that. So cute. Hi. Hello. My name's Michelle. I'm from Florence Kentucky. And I was just wondering, having talked about it and looking back at the show, if you guys had a friendship slash relationship that you rooted for the most or was your favorite and why? On the show? Well, clearly I didn't watch it so right yeah she's not talking about behind the scenes yeah I was like all of them I love them so much we're not a lot to talk about that um I liked ours mm-hmm I loved our relationship um Brooke and Rachel and I would have rooted for more than that that's like

kind of my common theme I just wanted Rachel to be more in and more like genuinely in and stay there. I think she wanted to be there and all the kids at school and even after with, they wanted to keep letting her in, but she kept messing it up. So, anyway, that's me.

You saved my life. I feel like Rachel would have never... And I didn't hit you. No, you didn't. Owen did. Owen. So, you know. And that was the kind of hitting

for a purpose, like a... It was a panic. Owen was... Bevan literally. just goes, who's Owen? Oh my God. How late can you guys stay? Because we just need to watch like eight seasons.

Everybody have time? Can we get her caught up? We're going to draw the family tree of the... I agree with that. I wish we had had more time as characters, for sure. One of the things I actually thought was really impactful. and we'd like use it when it was necessary as a device and then it would kind of go away

and we'd always be a little bummed about it was the friendship between Brooke and Nathan because they, right? Like they had this almost like the yin-yang experience. Like they weren't exact mirror images of each other but so close with these toxic parents and this weird,

upbringing and all the things and when they would lean on each other and talk about that and talk about, you know, the ways they'd kind of learn to just like show up and do it all, maybe in certain ways that like weren't so good for them. Weird. We talked about this this morning. Yeah. Not about on-screen things, but like I think that's really relatable, even though Brooke Davis's life or Nathan Scott's life might not have been so relatable. And the core of that friend, I wish we'd seen more of, because if you think about how immensely valuable the Lucas and Haley friendship was, to have platonic friendship, you know, between a boy and a girl in high school and in young life is so valuable. And I actually think Nathan and Brooke had a version of a Lucas and Haley friendship. I do think that the writers, much like they would do to Rachel, would do Brooke Dirty.

And when they needed drama, they'd be like, let's find out about some horrible thing she did. Sex tape episode. I was like, come on! You know, and you get the script and you're like, I can't believe I have to do this. And like, I wish they'd leaned a little more into the thing that they actually knew worked, which wasn't the shock and awe drama of a scandal for one to two episodes, but what was a core friendship that could be defining to the characters and to the audience. And I feel like we got little like appetizers of that.

But I wanted a meal. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for the hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con.

or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of 10, they called me a masochist,

rolled their eyes, or just, asked, why? Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Nefok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco, Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yeah, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Susanna. I live in Atlanta, but I'm from Columbia. I can't sit back down without letting you guys know that your show has gotten me through a really shi-last year, and I just want to thank you so much for that. Like, you have no idea re-watching you for like the millionth time. Thanks for coming. Through, like,

re-watching the show now that, especially with the podcast, is there any time or any lesson that you think that looking back on that you may be learned now that has helped you in your, like, daily adult life, I guess? Please don't laugh.

community organizing changes the world cited by I got crabs at Carls Very good Well done Brooke Davis pulling a Sally Field and organizing the union Very chic

Very timely Mm-hmm Bev. Okay, if we're going to talk about it. Look, I mean, in all honesty, are you talking about on the, like during, on the show within the show? Yeah, or just, you know, looking back at that time of your life while you were on the show. Yeah, I mean, when something incredibly traumatic happens in your life and people that you stay in contact with run to you as fast as they can get there, or call as fast as they can, and you understand as an adult what matters and what is real,

and there is nothing more real than the time that we have spent together, and these have been, you know, lifelines for me, like complete lifelines, and it wasn't something that I fully expected. I knew, no matter what, if I called and I needed help, people would be there. But I didn't expect everybody to run, and they ran. Yeah. Ditto. Same. Yeah.

Yeah. Hi, everyone. I'm Priyanka. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. It's my first time to Wilmington, so I'm really happy to be here with everyone. And just, you know, what everyone else has been saying. I really feel the special, you know, genuine love here. And you can really tell the show, you know, and on here. Which is so nice to feel.

So my question was, what do you think the three of you would be doing in the future? Are we talking, like, really what's the next step in the story? line, or are we talking, like, if we got to shake the snow globe and just party? Because if we got to shake the snow globe and party, I'm like, I don't know what Brooke Davis is doing, but if she has a beach house with Bevan and Rachel, I'm like, that would be so much fun. Right? Compounds.

Does that track to her life that we? Yeah, future in her life. No. But it would be fun. It'd be amazing. How about if Rachel has the beach house? that she bought in some like drug and do whatever she forgot with Dan's money she sold the plane and bought us a beach house she bought a beach house she's been renting it forever it's in shambles

oh and so the dogs are allowed in but she need a friend who's a designer perhaps but she the house the house is in shambles and she's run out of money so she has to come back to tree Hill because it's the only place she has left and she moves in pretending it's like a fabulous beach house but it's really shit and it's falling apart and she has to like start an Instagram account

where she's like tiling everything herself and it's a fucking mess that's my literal dream come true for myself anyway I'm not a writer I'm just spitballing here spitballing I like that and that is how Brooke and Rachel rekindle their friendship

because Brooke Davis says you're doing a terrible job tiling yourself and I can't allow it and I'm coming to help. So much live left. Someone should be right? But who?

I don't know. Who do you think we need to talk to about that? It seems like there's more story to tell and, you know, and not a reboot, just kind of a continuation. Like a chapter two. Or three.

Or a volume two. Volume two. Yes, we did a volume un. And we need a volume D. D. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer, because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric. this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges,

we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith political warfare and, frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.

You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Nefok, from Prologue, and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Eric, do you have a question? Okay, great. I would like just like one of the boys to ask a question. Of course it's me. Of course it's you. Of course it's me. So I've always been, I'm a Pisces. So I've always been interested in humanity interacting, feelings, all of those things.

And I think it's been touched on a lot around here about how this is such a community and how we see each other and we share our lives together. And so I'm going to take a page from Sophia and ask you, What is your work in progress? Oh. Well done. Sir. Well done.

Wow. I'm like, you kind of did me dirty, but I'm so flattered. Yeah. I really wasn't prepared for that. Okay. Oh, oh, boy. Sometimes I'm like, oh, it's so emotional what's happening. my chest. Oh, boy. The, I bet you're so glad to be my boss. Um, I, where you came

from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all that and where you're going and where do you see that? So, for me, there's like a really interesting kind of, um, it's like, it's kind of like a, it's kind of like a seesaw, but like that ride with the boat that like goes all the way around, which you're convinced you'll die on at the amusement park like that, whatever that's called. Um, Because there is the experience of being a human trying to figure out how to human better. Wrapped in the experience of being a human that is a public commodity in some way. And you know that most of what's out in that layer is like fractional or inaccurate or weirdly offensive or whatever. and you're not supposed to take it personally,

but you also can't exist in your job without confronting it all the time. And I think my work in progress is to learn as a human to stop trying to perform to please other people. and lose myself in it so that in my life and then ironically, outside in the world, I can actually be more tender.

I can fail in public. I can ask questions and try, cry really hard to encourage other people to ask questions, too. It's like a constant work in progress for me to not get quiet to protect my actual world or life or friends and instead, like, figure out how to transform some of, like, the worst ways we as people, can treat each other so that I can continue to show up for the best ways

we as people treat each other like today in rooms like this. And I don't know that I always get it right, but I do know that since the fall of 2022, I have an excellent therapist who I love and he's worth every non-insured penny I pay him.

And here we are. And I think, I think if, like, in the way you both do as my friends and in the way certain things that I've experienced with you guys in this space, like, if we can just show up for each other and see each other and cheer each other on a little bit, like, what does that experience do when each of us goes out into the world, into our communities? that excites me.

And so, yeah, just, I don't know, trying to figure out how to human better. I'm just trying not to cry. So beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. You're not. Oh, no, that was a Sophia question.

I could not answer. Yes, you can't. Did you... I can not do it like that. But... What's your work in progress? Whew. Um...

My babies. You know? And I'm not... Like, to be completely honest, since Sophia just bared her soul. Like, I'm not in front of the camera anymore, and that's really hard because I miss that

and there's an energy that happens and that was such a big part of my life but I'm married to an actor and he's a better actor he really is and he's fantastic I mean he's good I love you Jensen but you're amazing but I think that

he's doing really well right now, and I want nothing more than to be with my children. That is, like, my true core. Like, I love it so much. And just coming to terms with that, I know it sounds weird, but it's like, okay, because I always put it in my head, like, you're going to do, you're going to be what you used to be. And I don't know, this is like the mother's struggle for a lot. lot of people you I know the theme is you can do it all but you can't really do it all well and I'm trying to decide in or I've decided in my mind that like I just really want to be an excellent mother

and I want to support my fellow actors in the best way I can and right now that's learning to be the best producer I can possibly be and that gives me a lot of freedom to be with my family, but still keep my foot in the business in the best way. So, you know, I think, but it's just, it's something like I always miss, but my work is to just really embrace how grateful I should be for absolutely every single day because my kids are the greatest kids that have ever stepped foot on this planet, you know? And I just, I love being a mom. And I got to say, because I think it's really important to give people their flowers any chance you get.

Like, even in this journey that we've been on together, I have not been producing as long as you have. I have produced with some pretty exceptional people, and I have learned some of the most valuable lessons of my career about, being a producer about how to use power in the best way possible and also how to do that in the most human way possible from you. Oh, wow. So. Thank you. She's exceptional.

Not going to cry. Bevan. Buckle up. No. Bevan, what's your work in progress? At the same time, I have. have to comment on the fact that there's been two very specific errors in my life. And one was first you, who took me under your wing, and without any questions,

you just graciously showed me everything you knew, everything you knew. And then there was, you know, your life was happening and things were happening, and then Daniel walked in, and Daniel has been a big sister to me. since the day I met you. As discussed earlier, much older than the rest of them. 76 years. Oh, so close. Much older, so.

You know, it's the only role I could take. Yeah. And I think that at this point in my life, you know, I really hope there's a day that comes back where I consider what my personal life might be like a little bit, but it's just not now. And right now, what I think about every day is how I can create a space for people to feel safe and loved and allowed to be exactly as they are,

exactly as they are. And that is what I wake up with every single day. And I think about when I walk in to my studio and when I move through life, I just want people to understand that there's one of you and all of time. And so that means that your experience is completely unique to anyone else's. And that means that it is not your place to judge what it is that you are and how you feel. It's not your place to judge it, but it's just your place to deeply understand it

and then do your best to share it because that will make the world a better place because all of us you know have something to share that maybe someone and I'm just telling you you got to step into that power right now if you're up

if you're feeling something right now this is your cue to step up and in step up and in step up and in and share as much as you can. Guys, how did we get here? We turned a drama queens into a work in progress. Welcome to your feelings.

Thanks for staying late, everybody. This has been really special. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's O-T-H. Or email us at Dramaquins at iHeartRadio.com. See you next time. We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens.

We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl. Charing for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens. Smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl. You could sit with us, girl. Drama queen, drama queen, drama queen, drama queen. It may look different, but Native Culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.

Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first Native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges. to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.

What difference at this point does it make? Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.