Drama Queens - Well, well, well, it’s Tyler Hilton

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

From ‘Chris Keller’ to playing ‘The King,’ One Tree Hill’s Tyler Hilton takes on this DQ Q&A like a pro. Hear how he’s nothing like his cruel character, the real reason he left the show, and the roof-top scene we’ll never see that gets him emotional all over again.    Plus, Tyler takes us back to performing with Taylor Swift before appearing in her music video and why playing Elvis in “Walk the Line” almost didn’t happen until a certain Oscar winner convinced him to take the role of ‘The King of Rock & Roll.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First of all, you don't know me. We're all about that high school, drama girl, drama girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl, cheering for the right team. Drama queens, drama queens, smart girl, rough girl, fashion but you'll tough girl, you could sit with us, girl. Drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. Joy, are you ready for this? I'm ready. Are you ready for this? Barely. I mean, I couldn't sleep.

No, I rarely do. I get myself all dolled up for a guest, but I was so excited for this one. Yeah, you look great. Awaken alive. My Mystic Tan appointment fell through, so I don't have the glow that I was hoping for. But, you know, I got my hair dolled up, and I couldn't sleep last. night because this i have been waiting for this guest since i joined drama queens yeah and i was devastated to learn that uh this guest was not in season seven or eight so i have had to wait waiting has paid off because he's finally here ladies and gentlemen please put your hands together for the inimitable tyler hilton oh oh my goodness you guys

For those of you not watching on YouTube, apparently, Tyler has Benjamin Button's disease because he looks younger than he ever has and twice as handsome. The glow up is real. Coming from the goat. You look great. Where are you, Tyler? Same. I'm in my little studio in Canada.

Okay, fun. Today, speaking of Canada, I wasn't going to say anything, but earlier today I had my Canadian citizenship ceremony, so I'm now officially a dual citizen. So I had to do it on Zoom today, had it all set up, and I had to like sing the national anthem with all these other immigrants in French. And it was like, it was like, for like the first half that I was like, okay, this is a little much. And then by the end, I was like, teary-eyed. And I was like, whoa, I'm really like, really feeling this, you know? It was like really cute.

That's so beautiful. It's like Meg Ryan and French Kiss. You know, when she goes to the immigration office, she's like, I want to be just like you. She starts singing the anthem. Wait, who does that? Meg Ryan and French Kiss. with that movie with Kevin Klein. And she desperately wants to be a Canadian citizen,

but they won't let her because she lied on her vacation. Oh, it's a great movie. Anyway, yeah. It would have been great if you had asked the other citizens to be to shush. If you wish, guys, I've dropped a lot of albums. Maybe you let me take this one. If I may. Yeah.

Welcome to the pod, bud. Oh, my God. It's a Tyler Hilton super. fan oh my god kis keller's sidepiece oh my god what tyler is referring to uh dear listeners is that um joy and i changed her to chris keller's sidepiece and i changed mine to tyler's sidepiece and i changed mine to tyler hilton's super fan oh my god oh listen for anybody out there who doesn't already know i mean obviously you've watched the show with us you know who tyler as you know Chris Keller. But we also need to tell you, this is this great bio that our producers put together

that I would be remiss not to read at least some of this. It's just so good. Friends, Tyler Hilton is both an actor and accomplished singer-songwriter and began his professional music career in 2000. Then in 2004, released his first major label album, the tracks of Tyler Hilton. So then he first he goes off and plays Elvis Presley in the Golden Globe Award winning Best Motion Picture, walk the line. And then we got him on One Tree Hill as Chris Keller. He went on. He did guest appearances on Castle. He was on CBS's extant. He's done a bunch of a string of amazing movie, Christmas movies and Lifetime. He was, excuse me, one of People magazine's 50 most beautiful people. And aside from that and being in the MGM feature Charlie Bartlett,

opposite Robert Downey Jr. He also appeared. and Taylor Swift's hit video teardrops on my guitar. So we're really happy to have you and all of your amazing resume joining us once again. I didn't mention I can also do 15 unbroken push-ups. I don't know. I should add that to the end of that. And the Canadian national anthem, ladies and gentlemen, Tyler. In French.

If I'm led. That's impressive. Wow. You know, one of the things I like about doing the show is that I learned. things, new things about people I already know pretty well, like a lot with like soap and joy. And right now, I didn't know about a third of those things. And I mean, I already knew how accomplished you were and how talented you are. But dang, my friend. Dude.

50 most beautiful people. How did that feel? Can I tell you something? If I was making the list, you would be in the top five. I would have, you'd have made top five most beautiful people. That's right. I demand a recount. What year was that? It was a long time ago, like probably like 05 or something. I bet if they did it now, you'd crack top 10. You should resubmit yourself for that. That's how that works, right? The 1.40 plus category maybe.

Yeah, they take submissions. Can you imagine? Can you imagine how hilarious and equally sad and cringe it would be if we actually launched our own press campaign to be featured in the next Us Weekly's Most Beautiful People magazine? Or is it people? People magazine. People magazine. Yeah.

We each go like 150 grand in the whole just putting up ads of ourselves being like, for your consideration. And it's just like us eating a popsicle on a hot day shirtless. Sending gift baskets. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that.

I want to see that calendar, the two of you, just trading off month to month. Just that's what I want to see. We'll be the first duo that would submit together for a spot on the 50 most. Maybe not individually, but together combined. Do we make the list? Yes. For sure, the most beautiful person combined. Yes, with our combined hotness, we could definitely crack the top 20.

Yeah, our combined qualities, taking the best of both. Yeah. Do we now? Are we now competitive? I like that. You've got my vote. Thank you for pumping me up. Right now we're going to do a Q&A.

So I think we should just launch into some of these questions. Yeah. Okay. So our first one is from Sydney. She's asking you who your dream. person is to write, perform, and produce with. Living or dead? Oh, my God. Great questions. I mean, probably Elvis, to be honest. I was actually, sometimes I go through these, like, little phases where I just get really into Elvis again.

And, like, recently I've been getting into it again. And I like, every time I circle back, I'm like, why do I like Elvis so much? I don't know. I don't know. But there's something about him and his vibe and his music that, like, speaks to me. And if I could, I would love to be in the studio with him. Also, on that note, I realized I'm living what would have been his last year of his life. So as like a young Elvis fan, this is a crazy year for me because I've always thought about that as I was growing up. What's it going to be like one day to, God willing, be older than Elvis one day, you know, because he's always been so much older. And this year is like, you know, would be the last year of his life.

So funny you ask that, but I'm going through like an Elvis resurgence personally where I'm like, whoa, feeling some weird juju and And, like, just connected again or something. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. Did you feel that way about him before you landed the role of playing Elvis? Yeah. Yeah, like, I was sitting for Halloween, like, almost every year as a kid.

Like, I was obsessed with him. And I went in for Walk the Line. I don't know if you, I told you, but, like, to be an extra, to literally be like in Johnny Cash's background band. And they were like, hey, do you know any Elvis songs? And I was like, yeah, I know all of them. Like, that's my vibe, is Elvis. What?

So I played him above. a bunch of Elvis songs, and they were like, oh, well, you come back and read some lines. And I was like, as what? And they were like, like, Elvis. And I was like, in this movie, like, I didn't forget the story, it was so weird. And I was like, and then they gave, I got the part.

Have I not told you this? I got the part and I said, no, because I was like, oh, I'm not playing Elvis. No, no, no, I came in to be an extra, like a musician. I can't play my favorite person in the whole world. There's no way. And I've never acted before professionally. I'm not playing Elvis.

And they were like, are you sure? And I was like, 100% without a doubt. There's no way I'm doing this. Like, no way. And then I ran into Joaquin Phoenix in a bar. I can't believe I told you to this. Stop it right now. No, no.

This is, I can't. I thought you were going to say, guys, Tyler, I've heard the story a million times. Never heard this before. So I ran into him in a bar and I was, I was underage. And so I was buzzed. I probably had like a beer or something. And I told my friend, I was like, oh, that's walking Phoenix. I just tried out for this.

this movie he's doing. I was like, I'm gonna go say hi. And so I went up to him and I was like, hey man, I've read your script. It's so good and like, good luck with it. And he goes, you're Tyler Hilton. I've never done anything. I've never even released an album with this one.

And I was like, yeah? And he's like, I saw your audition take. You have to fucking do the movie. And I was like, wait. I was like, no, no. I was like, oh, here was the mistake. I came in to be in Johnny Cash's background band And they asked me to read lines, and then I'm not even, I'm not an actor.

And he was like, he was like, I don't even care. He's like, they're trying to cast musicians for these other roles. Now, looking back, I think what they were doing is asking musicians to come in and then pulling guys that they thought were like the other characters. And they wanted real musicians to play these other guys. So it ended up being played by all these signed artists and stuff like Jerry Lee and all this. And he was like, dude, I'll stand on an Apple Box. That was the first time I remember hearing the word Apple Box.

They never heard that before. He's like, I'll do whatever. You've got to do this. And he told me, he's like, Reese and I have been taking guitar lessons, vocal lessons for like two years. We are so out of our element. I promise no matter how nervous you are,

we are like more nervous. And that was the last time he was ever that normal and nice again. After that, he went into Method Actual. And I never met that guy. Maybe, no, I don't think I ever met that guy again because even when we were doing promo, he was on to some weird other thing and he was just always in some weird character.

He was so clear and so nice and charming. And so I called my agent from that bar and I was like, you won't believe this. Like, is that role still available? And she's like, I don't know. Like we turned it down so hard. So she'd calling back and she's like, yeah, they say you could do it. Isn't that crazy?

I cannot get my jaw off the floor. I was like, I was too into Elvis to do it. I was like, no, I can't do it. Oh, my God. That's unreal. Unreal. Truly. And it's such a good example of how stupid I am at making career decisions.

Like, I am horrible. I've always been bad. Like, I'll be like, I don't know if I should do that. And then it would have been something I should have done and be like, you know what I want to do? And it's like the worst idea ever. Like, I should just go with the flow more. You know, this is like my big lesson in life. But yeah, I was so adamant.

Like, no, I'm not doing it. This reminds me of the time you turned down the lead of Guardians of the Galaxy because you thought it might turn out corny. And it ends up doing all right. That's the best Hollywood story. That's like Marilyn Monroe getting discovered at the Soda Fountain, which, who knows if that actually happened or not. I can't believe I never told you guys that. That's crazy.

Wow. Wow. And it was great because the whole vibe of the movie was everyone was so out of their element. Like everyone was just nervous. And it was beautiful, you know, like, so it didn't feel like, oh, Reese Witherspoon, it felt like they were nervous to be around us. We were all nervous to be around them. And it was like, it was a vibe.

Crazy. Awesome. Anyway, so, yeah, I love Elvis. And good question. Thank you. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.

It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her. story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream.

Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Samantha asks, storylines aside, which main character would you want Chris to be end game with? Oh, man. I mean, I don't want to get my ass kicked, but I think, like, Haley would be a nice little ending there. You'd have some serious redeeming to do. I mean, Chris Keller would have to work hard to redeem himself.

I was watching that episode, and I was like, dang. It's, like, relentless Chris Keller all the time. He never stops. He has one mode. But he never stopped being into Haley, which is so funny. Like, even at the end, he's just like, he never. I mean, he had girlfriends. He had whatever.

But, like, I think that's one of the charming things is he genuinely was into this chick. Do you know what I mean? Which is so funny. For, like, more than nine years because you guys jumped ahead. For, like, what, 15 years he's been in the same check? It's crazy. It's a testament to you, though, that Chris Keller is even, well, the fact that he's a let alone even liked on the show.

Because if you just look at the lines on the page, dude, it is a one-note lethario dialed up to a 12. And the fact that you thread the needle so well between being charming with glimpses of vulnerability on top of that, boy, just in the hands of a lesser actor, that role would have been a disaster. Yeah, we talk about that all the time on this podcast whenever you're in scenes. We're just like, I don't know how he does it. It's kind of a magical thing. I don't know what happened, but I can't believe either I or the character have not got canceled yet, but like they, yeah, it's like a weird thing. I don't, there must be something in it that like something about me as a person or an actor is like no way this guy is good for it. He's writing checks that he can't cash so we can throw whatever lines that we want at him and there's no way he's going to, I don't know, something about it.

Yeah. Yeah, there is something to be said for there is an implicit. it likeability to you like if you just watched the show on mute you'd be like oh this is one of the good guys and so I think great yeah it's a great point buys you a lot of leeway whereas I think if we just had some smoldering sex pylon playing the role not to say that you can't do that but you know what I'm saying like if it was Joe Manganollo doing it I don't know if it would have worked yeah no I don't think it would have there is something like I think generally like harmless about Chris Keller, something about it that allows it to get away with it or something.

I don't know. Or me. I don't know. Well, there's certainly an internal joy in you that I've known since I've known you. There's this baseline of joy in your person within you that no matter like no matter what. And again, not to, I mean, to Rob's point, like not that you couldn't as an actor play something that's heavier and darker because you have those depths within you. That's one of the things it makes you such a good songwriter. But there's still this like baseline of joy, I think, that really comes out especially in, in Chris, that if you watch it on mute, you're just like, that's a happy, goofy guy. Like, yeah, whatever he's saying. That is funny. It is funny, too, like the longer that we're actors, I'm sure you, like, are getting the sense of this.

There's like, in essence we have that we constantly get cast for, whatever that is, you know. And with all the competition out there and all the people from around the world, zooming in or doing whatever for a role, the thing that you can't, that makes you competitive is that essence, whatever that is, it's so weird. And I, and anyway, that's interesting. Yeah, like, that there, yeah, but I don't know what that is. That's really interesting, though. It's funny. Okay, well, Skyler's asking, how of the friendships that you've made from One Tree Hill impacted your life? Oh my God. I was thinking about, um, that actually the episode and we'll, I know we'll talk more about it later, but I remember when we were doing this,

actually, I was Rick ties to the question, the police scene, for whatever reason, I remember that day, because it was one of the first times you and I had got a chance to really hang out in years. Because when I came back to the show, we weren't doing conventions or anything then. And so it had been four or five years since I'd done the show.

And I remember I saw you at the table read with your new baby. And you know, like it had been that long. and then we didn't really hang even in the first few episodes to his quick scenes it was this and that we were filming you or a new mom but that day we happened to be at that police station for an extended period of time and there were no other cast numbers I don't know where what we hope I remember thinking oh it's so cool to see joy again and actually like catch up and I forgot about that

till I watched the episode but that's just to say that these conventions have given us such an opportunity to continue to hang multiple times a year and so I go through these phases where I get close with different cast members at different times. And recently, Rob and I connected at the Drama Queen's Boston thing that you guys had us at. And we literally made a conscious effort. We're like, why aren't we best friends? I don't know. I can't figure it out.

And we're like, let's do it. How he just have stayed in touch, like, on almost a daily basis. I was going to say, how often do you guys talk? Just about every day. No jokes. Yeah, like, at least the check-in, but like, it's just where he, I've always thought he's, you know, so cool, so smart, you know, I look up to them in so many ways, and we're going through so many similar things, being dads, small towns that we are new to us. And it was just like, why don't

we do this? Like, let's just do this. You know what I mean? So we just like, we just became friends, you know? And it's so funny. And like, and I go through different phases like that. Lee and I were so close in the first few seasons. Chad and I were really close and we were roommates. But it's great. There's so many cast members and so many years that it really gives you time to, like, get to know everybody over time, you know? You and I were so close and we were touring and on the road together, you know. So it's just cool, really cool. Yeah.

All right. Well, Alicia wants to know what was your favorite storyline for Chris Keller? I mean, all the season nine stuff was like great. Like, I mean, you're not watching the podcast, I'm sure. Well, I don't want to give way anything just in case. But, like, asked me to come back and do the last season. and I was like, oh, you know, I'll see if I can or something. He's like, read the first page of the first episode and then decide.

And I was like, why? And the first page of the first episode is Chris Keller and Dan Scott in a car. Chris Cox's shotgun and says, Chris Keller doesn't like this. And they exit the car. And I was like, what? You're giving Chris a gun? You know, like, in this season. And he's hanging out with Dan.

What? Was it a loaded gun? Oh, super fan. Yeah, I'm so in. He's like, I just did a feeling if you read the first page that you would be in. And I was just like, so yeah, I mean, it's, I'm tempted to say like the riverboat stuff or, you know, I get a bunch of bunch of crazy people and jump up. It was fun, but nothing like saving the day with a gun and, you know, going up against the Russian mob. That was fun.

That's so good. Hey, how about the well, well, well? Katie wants to know was Chris Keller's well, well, well, scripted or something that you just added in? Totally scripted. It's funny you say that because like the first few episodes, it was like, who says this? How much do I haven't said this? There were so many things like that that I was just like at first. And then even like talking about myself in third person, I was just like, it took me a couple episodes to be like, who is this?

And then it was so fun. And then all of a sudden just switched over. I was like, oh, my God, this is so fun. What's so funny about that is that, to me anyways, that our creator used to say that in real life all the time. Well, well, well. And the fact that he wrote that in for Chris Keller as like, I don't know what it was supposed to be,

but I don't think it was supposed to come across as like slimy as it does, but that's all it can come across as because that's what it is. Yeah. I started realizing that I do, it was a lot of like serenot diversion wrapping. or whatever like there was a lot of like him writing stuff that I think oh yeah you know it's very like there was a lot of in there you know like in a lot of his humor I think and that well well it's definitely I was definitely I don't know if I'd elevate that to Ciro no but I can certainly see the I definitely think Chris Keller was a proxy for him yeah yeah and so it makes sense that he was

writing in some of his own stuff but again it's a testament to you though that that line actually it became so endearing and sort of a trademark likable thing, you know, because like the reality of how that line and who was saying that line was, was absolutely not charming. But the fact that, like, I like it now when I hear the, well, well, well, it's sort of like the Pavlov's bell. I'm like, oh, here comes some good stuff. Absolutely.

I imagine also, because we have, Jessa had asked, Did you like that Chris Keller spoke from the third person? There's a lot of questions about that. But I'm wondering, because on the page especially, he was such just like a womanizing jerk, right? Did it help you that you got to speak in the third person? Because in a way, it's sort of like you are getting to distance yourself. Like it's an extra layer of distance between you and that character.

Did that help at all? You know what? I hate to say it, but it became so easy for me to be. to be that guy, that cocky. I don't even think I wanted to be distanced from it. Like, I, there is a part of me that is that, or at least thinks that's funny, that doesn't get to do that. And I think there's something about that that is like,

I feel I have so much fun doing that I don't even want to be distanced from it. There was a few times I would be in scenes with Sophia, where after we would cut, she would be like, I hate you so much right now. And I got such pleasure out of that. I couldn't, I don't, she was like, not something I would be like in real life, you know? And I just, it was just so fun to get to be that annoying with no repercussions.

I don't know what, I'll figure that out in therapy later, but it was like, that was just, it's just delicious, you know. And just being the third person was just another example of that where it's like, oh, my, oh, God. It's so fun. Isn't that just sort of a thing I feel like with all actors where we enjoy playing opposites? so if you are someone who's like you're a very kind you know maybe a people please or whatever it is

if you're a nice person to get to really sort of exercise that mean muscle that you have let atrophy for so long feels really good it's very fun I love it and I've done more like bad guys assholes than I've done like good guys and I've way more fun doing that

than like being like wow you're like a really good guy in that movie like it's like fun You know, it's like fun, but I also tend to find, too, that a lot of times, except, I mean, not always, but a lot of the guys who are really big actors for being really charming, good guys aren't always. You know what I mean? And I see that get worked out that way, too, you know, that it helps for them to have a script and a character to be that. Yeah. Name names, Tyler. Name names.

Do it. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first. first native showrunner in television history.

On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. let's jump to chelsea obviously we all want to know what it was like working with t swift that's taylor swift for those of you who didn't know that in tear drops on my guitar yeah she's uh she does the the pop music yeah quite popular to be a country singer now she's doing some pop music yeah used to be a kid now she's a lady Yeah, she was just, she's like a huge one tree hill fan. So that's how it happened. She, I like, I mentioned to her, like, I mentioned in some magazine that I liked this new song she had, uh, called Tim McGrath. It was her first song and she happened to see it and was like a big fan of mine.

Like, it watched all these dumb tour videos I'd ever done, like was a huge, like, fan, like, knew all these deep inside Tyler fans. It sounds like a girl with a crush is what that's out. sounds like. No, she was full on and she was 15 and I was like 21. So I was so much older and, you know, she was just like, and she hit up the magazine. Her management day was like, oh my God, she's such a big fan. She's playing at this biker bar in San Bernardino in Southern California. She loved to invite him to come if he wants to come.

And I was like, oh, okay, like, yeah, that's funny. Like, you know, like, she's a fan, huh? Okay, cool, that sounds fun. Yeah, go. Like, you know, flattery. I was like, down. So I went to go see her, and she's literally playing in this biker bar. And she was awesome.

And she was like, I'm gonna play your version of missing you from One Tree Hill. Would you get up on stage and sing it with me? And I was like, oh, okay, yeah. You know, she's like very forward like that. And I was like, okay, yeah, I guess I could do that. And then while I was on stage with her, she goes, I wanted to ask you on stage because I didn't want you to say no, but will you be in my music video?

This is a 15-year-old? Yeah, that I was like, oh, my God, this girl. And I was thinking, like, you can always say no later, but of course, on tape, I'm like, sure, it sounds fun, but I was just like, dang, this girl doesn't quit, you know? And then backstage, like, no, I didn't mean to, like, embarrass you, but obviously, like, I'm doing the video for my second single, if there's any way you'd be into doing it.

And I, like, called my label. I was like, can I even do this? Like, I don't, you know, and they were like, yeah, if you want, it's probably, like, fine. Like, it couldn't hurt to do this girl's music video. You're just some random teenage country singer, you know? Yeah. And so then I went out there and we became really good friends and her family were cool.

And when I ended up moving out to Nashville a couple years later, they let me live on their houseboat and I, like, stayed with them while I was getting my, like, settled in. Aw. Yeah, I got to hear. Yeah, it just like stayed in touch with them and they were awesome. It ended up being such a cool. And now I'm watching her become the biggest star in the entire world. Yeah.

You know, that was so weird. Not just famous, you know, we see, it's so exciting to see you guys do your thing and watch people, but she became one of the biggest musical acts of all time. That was really, it's really weird. It's incredible. But I like saw her play in, like, the Dallas Cowboy Stadium. We were both playing a show in Texas. I was playing this tiny bar. She was playing the Cowboy Stadium in 2019 for her Netflix thing.

And I got, end up in the VIP section with her parents. And they're literally like this, like, Tyler, isn't she doing it? such a good job and I'm like yeah she's like the biggest star in the world but they're still just like so excited like filming her and just like singing along they it's really cute they're such a charming

family and all that like dorky stuff is like real like she really is that's real that's so cool Johan this is a question I did not submit this under a fake name even though Johan sounds like a fake name I would use what is the best

worst thing about Rob Like, the worst thing about him you like the most. Oh, swear to God, I didn't write this. This is a good one. It is. Hurt my feelings. Oh, my goodness. I can't wait for this.

What a good roast. The best worst thing about Rob. Do you want to take a minute and noodle on it? I mean, there's just things that, like, I just are so annoying because you're so good at so many things that that's annoying. But I will say my favorite thing about Rob, I'll tell you. that I always forget and I need to remind myself because it just really rounds out the whole thing is that he's really good at magic.

I just love that about you. I love that you're a tough, buff dude who's good looking, a great actor, a great dad, and also can do magic. I just love that. Aww. That's my favorite thing about you. Thanks, thanks, Johan.

And I'm going to spend the rest of the episode trying to think of something I really don't like about you. That's my favorite thing I don't like. Can I pitch you something I think could be contender for this? is when I am with friends, I have a very well-known tendency to order far too much food. Oh, that's a good. And I get as close to peer pressuring as a 44-year-old should when it comes to, like, eat more with me, eat more with me.

Hey, you should try this. Have you tried that one? I would say it can be a little. So I would, I would say, I can sort of push people to nearly giving themselves a hernia. You know why I love that, though, about you? Because with other friends, I'm the guy that's like, can I have one more bite? Is that messed up? And with you, it's not that way.

It's like, dude, you're going to hit that again, hit that one more time, you know? The last convention that you and I did in Chicago, our day started with, or I said that the night before was you and I ordering like $60 worth of waffles, crepes, and cakes, just for the two of us to my hotel room. And in the next morning, I believe. Cookies covered in chocolate and ice cream. Crapes. Yep. Oh, my God. This was the Chicago Convention? Yeah.

Nobody called me? Oh. I absolutely would have eaten that with you guys. I mean, you were doing your thing. You haven't seen each other in a while. It's fine. Well, we're just looking for people with a food rage. Count me in for a chocolate and Nutella crepe.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Strawberry Nutella crepe, I'm in. Okay. All right. The snack crew just grew by one. Dude, next convention. We're going to get dirty.

Are we all going to see each other in Paris? I'm not going to Paris on this. Oh, I know. When is it, is it like now, September-ish? October, early October, I think. Oh, I think there's one next spring maybe that I might be doing, but I'm not. What about on Halloween? Are you guys doing the Halloween one?

Are we all there for that? Hollow trick-miss or whatever, yeah. Yes, we are. And in fact, that's our finale. We're doing a live drama queen's finale, and then we're also live streaming it for people who want to get tickets. So we're going to be there. This is such good news.

I've already, this is so sad and funny. I've already told Tyler all about this, but Joy, I have, do you like cornbread? I love, I love good cornbread. If it's not dry. I got a spot. I discovered it the last time I was in Wilmington. We'll talk about it off air. Okay.

We're going to have a party. Oh, I'm so excited. It's a place you would not expect. Oh, Barbies. No. Yeah. Oh, man. All right.

What's your favorite, once you're heel memory on or off screen? That's from Chels, another Chels. Oh, some of us went up on the roof with some drinks in our Red Solo cups at the end of season 9 when we were in the trick. Trick episode, we were doing the last episode, we're all in Trick, and we kept leaving to go up on the roof with our drinks, and it was so beautiful. It felt so great. We were up there. It was like sunset, and, you know, it started to sink in that it was ending, and we were getting senioritis. And it was just, like, beautiful.

I just remember thinking, like, I really, like, the end of it really hit hard for me. Like, I didn't expect it to show. I was like, ah, you know, like, on to the next thing. You know, that's how it was most of the show. And then right at the end, it really hit me like, whoa, this has been such a moment for me. I started when I was 19, did my 21st birthday there, you know, knew you guys the whole time, you know, as we grew up, you know. I mean, it's crazy. it really ended up really hit me so that was that was beautiful i was so grateful yeah i didn't realize

you were 19 when we when you started the show wow yeah because i was i must have just turned about to turn 20 and then by the next year i was yeah i think yeah something like that yeah crazy well tyler not only are you one of the most beautiful people as people magazine Noted accurately. You're one of the most interesting and likable, and this has been a delight. And thankfully, we get to keep you around for the episode 905 recap. But for this Q&A, which I'm just going to say is going to go down as one of the greats. Thank you for joining us.

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