Dreamscapes Podcasts - Dreamscapes Episode 176: Sharp As A Tack

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Matt Tack ~ https://www.youtube.com/@FullFueled

Greetings friends and welcome back to another episode of dreamscapes. Today we have our friend, uh, guest dreamer Matt Tack from Tampa, Florida. He is a podcaster, public speaker, entrepreneur, health officiantado, focusing on functional wellness. And you can find him at AlessiFX.com. I'm not going to spell that links in the description below. Uh, we're going to get right back to him in two seconds for my part. Would you kindly like, share, subscribe, tell your friends, always need more volunteer

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is what it was called. And that's where we get the word bedlam, as in, it's a madhouse. It's bedlam. Fascinating historical perspective from this guy, one of the first medical professionals to advocate for patients' rights in terms of who is or is not allowed to visit because they used to, you'd pay a tuppence on a Sunday to go laugh at the crazy people in the institution. And that's part of how they collected their donations. This is going on way too long. By the book. You can see it on the screen over there. Also, all this and more, of course, at Benjamin the Dream Wizard.com, including downloadable MP3 versions of this very podcast, all the cocktails, custom cocktails I make for the video game streams. That's a fun thing I do, so you can

drink along with the Wizard. Follow all laws of your state and local municipalities, of course. And finally, if you'd head on over to Benjamin the Dreamwizard.locals.com, building a community there. It's attached to my Rumble account. Free to join. You can give me money or not. I just would love to have folks interested in dreams come and come and talk to me and share your perspective. That is way more out of me than I expected. Matt, thank you for being here. I appreciate your time. Oh, no, that's great, man.

Keep it going. I love it. I expect to be here. The more I say that, the more comes rambling out of my brain sometimes. Like in the beginning, I didn't do any introduction. I would just jump straight into it. And then I'm like, well, I got a website. I should probably plug that.

Well, I do video games. I should probably plug that. It's like, and it's just gone on for way too long. So anyway, we're here to talk to Matt, and we're going to kind of keep it tight today. He's on a time budget. So I can do episodes that are longer or shorter. Whatever you got. I've done one as long as four and a half hours because that person had a lot of questions of very, very many details.

And I've gone as short as 45 minutes because, you know, time being what it is. So I will say to you, Matt, just if it looks like you got to go, just let me know. We'll wrap it up wherever. That's perfectly fine with me. Sounds good. Yeah, so tell me about, yeah, lesseefx.com, your advocacy in health and your podcast, wherever you want to start. Yeah, for sure.

Well, you know, my dream, I think came out at a really, like at a young age, I would say, just growing up, I, like, dreamed about being a professional basketball player. You see the basketballs behind me. Yeah. That was my dream. I always wanted to be a professional basketball player. That dream did not work. God, I think it was a little too short.

But one of the cool things that has transpired is this concept that we have at AlessiFX Health is the forever athlete. We enjoy kind of the nature of hobbies and sports and maintaining a standard of health. And so we've, you know, what's transpired over really a number of years is just keeping myself an optimal health so I can enjoy those sporting activities. So I still play basketball, I still play golf, I still do those things. And so that's what is derived out of a lessee. We own a chiropractor and functional wellness clinic here in Tampa Bay.

And that's ultimately what keeps us moving is a lot of it stands behind kind of the legacy that I bring to my kids to, though, of optimal health and what that looks like. But the dream now is just is really maintaining that forever athlete for as long as possible. I dream about that every day of just maintaining and doing the things that I love. So that's where that's ultimately how I dream, dream today. That's very cool. Excuse me. Yeah, that makes me think of my, my particular situations, but broad strokes, the idea of being healthy and active at any age, you can do it.

I mean, maybe you can't sprint across a football field and tackle someone anymore. You get a little too old for that, but you can find another hobby that keeps you moving. It keeps you know, people play with golf into their 80s. There's a lot of, there's always something you can do. And to get into my situation, you look at me and I'm obviously, I'm a little husky, we might say. I'm a person of size. I'm big in the beard, though, man. The beard's phenomenal.

Thank you very much. And actually, you know, kind of the fat, smooths out the wrinkles. I'm older than I look. But the idea that, you know, so for me, I've, my favorite activity is actually sitting sitting completely still and letting my thoughts move instead of my body. I'm not a big fan of X. I don't like sweating. I don't like being tired and out of breath and all that.

all the good so but what i so i don't enjoy sports personally that would not does not motivate me but you know yard work uh working tinkering around the house doing this that or the other just that kind of physical activity is actually enjoyable so it's in a lot of ways it's more finding the activity that you enjoy that is active that is activity um to keep your body moving at at any age um i don't know if you have uh thoughts on that yeah i mean I'll be flat out honestly. Agree to disagree, one of those things. Sure.

I think the agreement is the agreement is the body always needs to move. I think there's an element of like health in that. So you always need to move. I think that's like when you become static is when things become like how, for instance, you say like moving your mind. That's part of the moving process too is like moving your mind and empowering your mind. I love all the things. That's why I was like enjoying listening to you.

starting off the podcast is because like you're obviously doing you're a doer your creator and you're creating these elements of community which I love like that's I think actually that's probably the most important thing is that element of community I think we're lacking that and really today's society too so I love the movement and the culture that you're bringing I do believe that you know we just believe that there's element of like intentional discomfort though too and so that's maybe where the like the cut slighted disagreement on that side is the intentional discomfort and the resistance training not everyone's going to love that and i surely do not love it trust me um it going into the gym is not something that like i'm like man i love i would say i love to do my

wife thinks i love to do it but really at the end of the day i i truly don't um it's but it is one of those things where i think there's an element of intentional discomfort that's good but then not an overindulgence. So I'm not asking anyone to be a maniac like me because I truly am. Like when I go in to the gym, I go in with some serious intention. Like I'm ripping those parts away, ripping those weights apart. But I think, you know, if somebody could really, if we could just two to three days a week of doing something with its super intentional discomfort where it's like resistance training where you have a kettlebell at home, that's what I love about. kettlebells is that you can do things at home and then you can do them in like literally as minimum

of five you're really getting a solid workout at 10 but if you had a kettlebell workout and programmed in three to four things I actually in my app I have a like kind of a starting set where I'm getting people just gradually kind of motivated that are super super easy to do but you can knock them out in 10 minutes. And so by doing that, you can you can have some sort of resistance. So picking up, you know, 40 or 30 pound kettlebell or even 20 pounds, you know, at the end of the day, getting that movement, but it's ancillary resistance against your body that's intentional discomfort. I think is really critical. And if you do that two to three times a week, it makes a really a pretty dramatic impact. So I, that's where I say agree to disagree. I think

there just needs to be a touch. Like even if you absolutely doggone hate it, I'd say incorporate just a little bit of it, you know, into your day to day that allows you to see that level of growth. Yeah, I wouldn't, I guess maybe I wouldn't say I don't disagree is what I'm trying to get out there. I would say I don't disagree with you actually is that I probably should be doing those things. And yeah, I'm definitely choosing not to engage in that intentional discomfort.

So it's a good point to say that, yeah, sometimes it's going to suck and it's going to take voluntary dedication to the thing to the plan make the plan because you know it's good for you up here and then i did i did used to be a lot more active and fit i did i keto uh martial art for for five years and you know before that i was always doing different kind of uh exercise stuff but uh um one of the one of the instructors uh you know um well that the the founder of this american school Um, he said that, uh, you know, the, in, in, Iquito, we don't move our body because we have energy. We move our body because we tell our body to move. Basically the function of that. So it's like a mind over matter type of thing of like, you know, you do this not because you're naturally drawn to it or it's essentially pleasurable, but because you know it's necessary that it's something you should be doing. So I've been, I've been, I'll be honest. I've been struggling with that lately in terms of like, gosh, you get on to just take a walk at least.

Just go up the block or something. Just do something. Uh, and that's where I get. get into the yard work thing. I'm like, well, there's always something needs to be done around here. If I'm going to invest energy in something, it's going to be cleaning up a pile of something that's been sitting there for a year because I've been putting it off. Okay, let's bend and stretch and lift and do all the physical stuff that comes with that accomplishing the yard work. And there's a, there's a good point to say that that's not necessarily a substitute because

there's a lot of yard work that's very low impact. It's not cardio. You know, lifting anything heavy. It's kind of puttering around. And that's maybe not quite enough to get the job done to get the real health benefits from it. Yeah, and I would say that, you know, when you do the other things, like if you were to pick up a kettlebell, that yard work becomes a little bit easier, too. You know, it might be where you're preparing your back for, you know, being on your knees and doing more yard work throughout the day. It's like, it's almost like a preventative measure to strengthening those muscles.

You know, three things that we believe in are mindset, nutrition and muscles. So the mindset piece being like, I, again, it's a. I go back to the community piece of like, hey, do you have maybe a small community that, like, can can lift you up around that? And then the nutrition is another thing, like how are we incorporating nutrition to fuel our mind, but then also fuel the performance and muscle for the purposes of longevity. So, and to do things we enjoy. So, like, if yard work is something we enjoy, you know, how are we protecting, you know, our legs, our knees, our back so that, you know, that long day with doing a lot of yard work, maybe trimming something. down some big limbs or doing some hedges. I remember my dad would always send me to my grandma's house,

and it took us eight hours to do her hedges. And it's a lot of hedges, and I like how painful that was. But at the end of the day, like obviously as we get older, if we add in those resistance type training mechanisms, that makes trimming the hedges a lot easier. Oh, yeah, for sure. That just brought a story back to mine. I'm super young, like 14, 15, something like that.

that and my, uh, I was trimming the hedges out in front of my parents' house. I don't even know how I did that like I had the cord draped over the hedges on accident or something because I was pulling it. And then I did a sweeping motion and chunk hit the cord and that vibration that electrical shock went up through me like, and I actually fell over backwards and I was looking up at the sky and this guy's doing

this whole technicaler thing. And I'm like, whoa, I just got shocked. Apropos of nothing. He just brought that memory back to mine. That was, that was a funny experience. I can say I've been electrocuted.

And, uh, you know, it probably shows in my crazy, crazy thoughts and behavior. It's all part of the puzzle. That's fun too. That's awesome. So you say you have a podcast. I don't know if you want to talk about that a little bit,

where people can find it and what the focus is, kind of how you structure your episodes, anything? Yeah. Yeah, no, we have the full-fueled podcast. We love doing that. So we're doing that for a little over a year now, not quite as many as Benjamin the Dream Wizard. I love the fact that you're on episode.

episode 176. That's crazy. That's nuts, man. By the time I hit a thousand, I'll be a real wizard. That's right. You know what? I love the concept of that, right? Because it's, there's so much, there's, you know, so many people start, but they, you know,

the consistency is really what builds it up and makes a compound. So, uh, kudos to you, man. That's awesome. We're on about our 50th episode. Mm-hmm. I think we're a little over 50 now. Uh, we focus on exactly what I aforementioned. Uh, we focus on mindset,

nutrition and muscle. Those are the main things. We do kind of operate within our pillars, fuel, movement, sleep, mind, spirit work, the pillars that we operate off of and that we like talking about. And we just bring in various, various guests sometimes, or sometimes we just do short episodes based on kind of the interest. We did talk about in our last episode an element of like biohacking and different things that we use specifically as to kind of aid us to ourselves in performance on day to day. So we'll range everything from kind of spirit-driven stuff, all the way to, you know, how we're operating with fuel

and then different biohacks that we incorporate. We're always trying new things at the clinic to then bring. We're like the guinea pigs. So we try out a lot of things. And then we obviously promote them on our podcast. Yeah, that's good, too, to have that, say, personal experience with different stuff. It's not just, you know, taking your sponsors. word and saying, hey, I took money, here's a supplement or something like that. You

like experiment with it and say, well, here's our experience with this. Here's the results. We feel we obtained in the methodology. It's very, very fun. Most people don't realize how much science the average person does in their day because they're not producing a research study at the end of it. But we're all going through that process of, I have a hypothesis. I think this might provide some benefit. Well, how do I define benefit? And then, and then how am I going to put that to the test, your methodology and whatnot. And then you get the conclusion. This helped or it didn't. I feel better or I don't. I saw weight loss or muscle gain, whatever I was looking for. But we don't conceptualize it that way. But we're we are a little science making machines as

humanity. Yeah, that's so true too. And great point on that. I think that, you know, we're we getting to pick ourselves. Like for instance, last week at the clinic, somebody send us these stress patches. So they were meant to reduce anxiety and stress. And so basically they're just like small little patches that we put on our shoulders. And so we all put them on our shoulders for three days. I think it helped. I think there's an element of placebo in that too. And so that brings up like the point of some of the do they work and do they work for you specifically? So, you know, everyone's body is the same and different. You know what I mean? It's kind of cool because there's not, you know, you have a heartbeat like I do, you have a brain like I do,

you know, all these mechanisms are the same. So then it becomes like, it didn't work for me. So we're always testing out various like neutropics. We love the idea of neutropics and just those enhancers. So we take different supplementation. And then we also use like other crazy things like peptides and, you know, I think that recently that I've got on a kick on that I highly promote that I think a lot of men should look into is testosterone replacement therapy. So hormone replacement therapy has been massive impact

for me. But then also like nutrition, how are we incorporating the various like nutritional diets into like when we're timing carbs versus like getting our proteins into play? So just all the things that we encompass, we always like guinea pigging and then we'll display those to our audience. For sure. Yeah. And I mean, I like your, your pillars as you call them because you got to, you got to communicate the idea. Like, what are we looking at here? And breaking it down into different categories that you can manipulate within, within the, within the column, so to speak. And fuel being,

being a big one. Like, I don't think a lot of people realize quite how much refined, processed wheat, sugar products we eat. And not enough maybe say, you know, fresh fruits and vegetables, vegetables, nuts, meat. It's, it really matters with the way they say garbage in, garbage out. You know, if you're just eating nothing but refined and processed wheat and sugar, your body's not really good. You're full after eating for a while, you know, some of these more or less,

but you're not really getting that nutrition. You're not really fueling the body. It's like dumping, you know, the wrong, dumping anything other than gasoline into a car tank. I mean, cars run in gasoline. They need that, you know. you start messing with that or adding things or substituting things that don't burn well in the engine and you're just you're in trouble yeah that's so true and you know speaking from just everything right as far as like how to optimize we're always thinking about that level of optimization so

even in like a gaming scenario right um you know i i just i choose like the game of life but in a gaming scenario if we're talking in the digital world right you want to be optimized because you want to win the game, right? And so it can come down to the various fuel you're putting your body so that you can have like a heightened sense of awareness. And that's what we're always thinking about. Like, how do we play to win the game? And a lot of people don't realize, like, they call them dwarf starches, right?

And so I stay away from a lot of, like, carbohydrates that have, like, dwarf-type starches in them or, like, GMO-type modified starches. We usually use, you know, like an organic pasta. If I'm eating a sandwich, it's like, you know, it's typical like organic bread. And so that's where I go in kind of like from a starchy perspective. I don't put a ton of starch into my diet. But you're exactly right. So it's like if I'm going to be focused on getting carbohydrates, well, then I want some complex carbohydrates that are going to be broken, easily broken down for me.

I typically sway towards getting berries in. So, like, you know, berries are really high in fiber, specifically like strawberries and raspberries. And in the American diet, we're just so deficient in fibers. And fibers is like a critical, critical source of nutrients that we need on a daily basis. We need a minimum of 40 grand. Really, you want to get towards 60 grams of fibers into your diet on a daily basis. to have like good productive gut health. And so that's a big thing.

The other thing is like having, you mentioned meats is getting quality like meat's, like lean meats into your diet. So you're hitting your protein targets. You know, that's a big thing because as we age, we naturally digress in lean muscle mass, where lean muscle mass is something you want to protect as you get older. So those are just really two key components to really focus on. But then, you know, what are you fueling your body with to have more of like heightened the sense of awareness to win the game, right? It could be in the digital world.

It could be in real life. But like just speaking from a broader context, like for the purposes of longevity. Yeah, absolutely. I think video games and just, well, especially video games, but games in general is a great analogy for life. It's like there's better and worse strategies for accomplishing goals in every context. And once upon a time I had the idea of, you know, they have that book, everything I need to know I learned in kindergarten. And then I thought, you know, this was years ago.

I thought it would be great to write a book, you know, everything I need to know in life I learned from massively multiplayer online role-playing games. Because there's some very interesting things there. I mean, you need, it's better to specialize and then work as a team with other specialists to accomplish big goals. And you got to do that to do the big raids and take down the big bosses. But even in small groups, it's better than playing solo. You just, it's more efficient.

And also, you know, if you're going to optimize for your class in a lot of ways, it's like there's things that are better for a cleric or priest and there's things that are better for the tank and things that are better for the DPS. And if you mix all that up and you're not, it's kind of that idea of min-maxing. Some people are real obsessive about it. But you can also have just a moderate range of, well, I know this serves my specialty best. And I'm going to go focus on that a little bit more. There's lots of great.

analogies that can be built around that gaming experience and social aspect of it and cooperative teamwork and specialization so I don't know maybe I will maybe I'll write the book eventually write the book man write the damn book I think someone already did that about D&D but we'll see I don't think anyone's done it about MMOs but go ahead I love that I love that idea and I go back to the point that you made earlier and that I like tried to tap into a little bit but the idea of like collaboration and community with like an element of cooperative teamwork. There, you know, I always, I think of this a lot through life. I, you know, have to have like proper teamwork with my wife in order to like have a peaceful

household, right? We have three girls, eight, six, and four. And like, I have to cooperate, right? We have to have a collective teamwork to have like a peaceful household. So that's one of my primary. Exactly, a lot of estrogen. But then even in, in, uh, in, the business world and the gaming world.

Like, I think of this a lot is like when you get to the top of the mountain, whatever that mountain may be, right? As we dream, when you get to the top of mountain, do you envision there being being there by yourself? Or do you want to be like, look to your left and look

right, man, we did this, right? It's a lot more fulfilling. And that's that, like, living that full field lifestyle of, man, like, hey, we did this together. We rose together. We climb this mountain together. It's a heck of a lot. It's a heck of a lot better when you share your dreams with others. For sure. No, and it reminded me of a, there's an old African proverb. Like,

if you want to go fast, go alone. But if you want to go something go. You want to go far, go together. Far go together. That's what it is. Exactly. No, I love that too. And also, yeah, you think about, so that's the process, the journey. But then what's the result? Like, yeah, standing on a mountain top alone, I'd say very few people can consider that satisfying, consider that a victory to be there alone. And they prefer to be alone, but that's like, definitely the exception that proves the rule. And most people are not like that. It's lonely. It's lonely at the top, if you're alone. But if you go there, yeah, together. And then just the idea of being on the mountaintop too is like, what's the first thing someone does when they finish a project? Well, they rest for a little bit,

like, wipe the sweat off and then you start looking for the next project because you give bored. It's like there's there's almost it from that peak you start looking at the the other peaks that you couldn't see until you got there. Now you can pick a new goal and then you then you launch into a new adventure. Most people are like that. Look at I think very few people just this is it. I'm content. I'm just going to sit and do nothing for the rest of my life. I did no one's no one's really like that. It's very very very again very few people. I'm sure you didn't see 176 podcast when you reached you know, uh, 20. You know, and then you're like, oh, man, I hit, I hit 20.

But next slide, maybe I could hit 40, you know, then the funny thing, where he hit, not 80. I never know if I'm going to get another. This is all dependent on people need to want to talk to me and they'd have to have something to say and you have to bring me a dream. It's my entire thing is dependent upon others. So this is completely cooperative collaboration focused. That's what I tell folks, you know, this is not an, it's educational, but it's not a,

definitely not a debate. podcast, even if we, even if I might disagree with someone, but like I'm, I'm more focused on listening to people and then having my own things, interesting things to say, because otherwise, what am I doing? But, uh, and so even if we, you know, and you brought it up, you said, I agree to disagree with it. Absolutely. As long as you understand me, I have accomplished my mission. You don't have to agree. That's perfectly fine. Um, and that's, that's what I say too with people's, dreams when I do the dream interpretation is, the answers are not in me. I make suggestions. I see things from a certain outside the fish bowl perspective that all I'm doing is telling people

hey what if you look at this from this angle do you see what I see and if they don't that's fine I'm happy to be wrong I say I knock on a lot of you know rattle a lot of doorknobs don't come open because sometimes you got to do it wrong a few times or have the wrong idea because okay you've still learned something you've eliminated all the things that's not great what is it what's left that can be a useful whittling away process as well as like carving the marble down to reveal the the statue inside. And then sometimes I get lucky and I'm, I'm spot on immediately.

And like, well, great. That just facilitated the process. And I think the longer I do this, the better I get at that idea of, okay, what is the ideal conceptualization that actually fits this person? And I think doing these sections of the show where I chat with people and get a little bit

of an intuitive feel for them, I get better answers on the dream interpretation part. So on, on, on that note though uh so you brought your aspirational dreams but did you actually bring a nocturnal dream during sleep for us to talk about that may may not have been communicated to you that that was kind of part of what i do um i i never know sometimes until i start talking to someone yeah no i i you know what i love that concept too of like the dreaming of of what is uh what is done in sleep, you know what I mean, the nocturnal state, and then getting able up and to flesh that out.

I'm spiritual, on the spiritual side of things, I lean, I lean just on focusing on that, in that direction of how God's going to just like deliver, just like divine influence. And so I actually asked for that quite a bit before I actually go to sleep. I'm like, yeah, download, don't download something on me tonight that I can implement tomorrow. The King Wizard wants to help you hearse the veil of night and shine the light of understanding upon the mystery of dreams. Every episode of his dreamscapes program features real dreamers, gifted with rare insight into their nocturnal visions. New Dreamscape's episodes appear every week on YouTube, Rumble, Odyssey, and other video hosting platforms, as well as free audiobooks, exploring the psychological principles which inform our dream experience. much, much more. To join the Wizard as a guest, reach out across more than a dozen social media

platforms and through the contact page at Benjamin the Dream Wizard.com, where you will also find the Wizard's growing catalog of historical dream literature available on Amazon, documenting the wisdom and wonder of exploration into the world of dreams over the past 2,000 years. That's Benjamin the Dream Wizard on YouTube and at Benjamin the Dream Wizard.com. And so there's been numerous occasions that has happened in terms of like, hey, what do I need to do? And then I wake up. I actually keep a notepad now by my bookstand in case I'm like alerted in the middle of the night where I can like write stuff down in terms of like action items. And that's an element of dreaming.

But I would say that I think a number of years ago I got into real estate. And that pretty much is what exactly happened. I was in a state where I was like pretty, he had a pretty bad attitude towards life. I was like, man, where's life's going? And just like super depressed. And it was just that action of through, I think, reading, what I was reading probably the day before.

And then through that action at night, just like dreaming about various things of like what that, what the intention was. and I eventually created a real estate company out of it and really got in tune with real estate. But I wouldn't take away the fact that it actually came a lot out of like what I was putting into my mind, what I was then delivering through sleep that like really came to fruition

and then ultimately led to a number of other entrepreneurship activities that I've since ventured into. but I believe wholeheartedly that that nocturnal state of just like dreaming is extremely imperative because I think the body restores itself and when you can properly restore the body and that's really where like I go back to kind of the nutritional component and what we're putting into our body so that we can hit really solid like REM sleep and because there's two to from a scientific standpoint they get super nerdy with it our body goes into three layers of sleep, so stage one, stage two, and stage three, before it enters into what they

call SWS sleep, which is slow wave sleep. And your body starts like it has waves during that period. You're doing majority of your dreaming during that period of time. And so if you can't efficiently like sleep during that period of time, then you efficiently, you can't efficiently dream though, too. And then on the backside of that is your REM sleep, which your body is at its hottest point. and then when you're actually getting out of REM sleep, that's when you're waking up. But I truly believe that everything that I've really done in life is attributed to this like nocturnal state of me being in line with my body. I think there's like a supernatural component of sleeping that eventually you're like you're taking that dreaming perspective and making it a reality. And so we're doing, I'm, I'm working on some other business activities right now.

But I think that that dreaming component is something that I ask to step into every day so that I can get divine download and I can project that onto the world. I think we live in this very, the energy that which we promote is directed towards our sleep. For sure. No, I think it's very important. And I wrote down some notes earlier too, like to go back to it's one of your pillars is good sleep and it has to be. It's like it's not optional. It's something human beings physically must do for optimal health. Some people think of sleep as, well, I'll get around to it if I can.

I'll get more if I'm able. They don't make it as much of a priority as it really needs to be. I mean, a solid at least six, but ideally eight-ish, seven to eight hours of sleep every night to be able to go through all those necessary. And then that's just on the physical side. Then there's the psychological side, which is, in a way, dreams are, you know, an opportunity for problems. problem solving. As you've already mentioned, you want to download the answer in that sense. But also it's like defragging a hard drive. It's like you've got so much information that's been added and scattered throughout the day and it's stuck in a bunch of different places. And it kind of colates, coordinates, guagulates, whatever, all these things into into things that make more sense to us and are more easily stored and referenced. So that's in that and that period. So the period for restoring the body through rest and restoring the function of the mind. Because if you. don't sleep for enough days in a row, that clutter and deep fragmentation gets so bad, you start hallucinating.

You start speaking as if you've got dementia. You can't form words and your mouth them with slurring and, you know, it gets really bad. So it's like, this is, this is like, you know, it's like any other thing you do that that throws your body out of physical balance and you're going to get negative, negative side effects. What else are going to say on that? I can add on to that too. I think that's great. You even say that from, I love the science behind it.

And I'll actually take it one step further. Oh, no. Hey, oh, lost you for a second there. There we go. 33. I don't know what happened there, I guess. Maybe my internet went out. But I'll take it one step further.

Yes. Maybe two steps further. Actually, I will. I'll do two steps further. So what's cool about sleep and you were talking about that is that that defragmentation, the body actually sends up like cerebral spine fluid through your spine. What it does throughout the night, it chugs away at your brain and it chugs away at your thoughts that you had from the previous day.

And so like that's part of like that dreaming process is because it's removing a plaque and then it's taking memory banks. So your reticular activating system and your cerebral cortex is, it's, is gathering that kind of like informational download and sleep. And then there's an area of your brain called the hippocampus. And that's where long-term memory banks are stored. And so with proper sleep, it's actually taking throughout the day things and banking them and then dispersing of like kind of those short-term memories that basically are meant for

you to never remember again. So it remembers the important one and doesn't like in, it remembers the important one and then defragments, as you were saying, the kind of the unimportant ones. And then the second step at, I swear I want to try, because I actually watch it Netflix, and I wish I could recall the Netflix series on it. But a way of dreaming, intentional dreaming,

is these doctors, psychologists, they took psilocybin, right? And it was in a controlled environment, but they actually utilized mushrooms to get to an insane level of, like, It was controlled. So, like, they, it was in an environment where, like, you, you know, goggles on and you're just laying there.

But they utilize psilocybin to, like, hit areas of the brain and, like, some intense neuroplasticity that was, like, crazy, crazy. And they took people out of PTSD. They, I mean, they did some wild stuff. And so I wouldn't recommend, obviously, they're, like, I would say the use of, like, mushrooms all the time. But I think in a controlled environment for like PTSD and defragmenting of the brain, that that is something, to be honest with you, I really, I want to try in a controlled environment. Yeah. And just in the broader idea of chemicals affecting the body, different

substances will affect your quality of sleep, better or worse. And the quality or or or quantity or variety. It definitely impacts dreams and dreaming for sure. It used to be once upon a time back in the days when they thought, you know, the four humors, blood bile and flam and all that, all that different stuff. They thought basically dreams were caused by food because they had some evidence that eating different things. What was it? There was one horror author back in the late 1800s, I think, who swore by eating a particular kind of nut. I don't know what, like a Brazil nut or something like. that that's wrong don't quote me it's in one of the books because that particular food she found gave her vivid nightmares that she could then turn into horror stories so she was like you bring it on so it's a very interesting most people go god i don't have nightmares those are horrible they wake up feeling terrible and she's like bring it on i i need material for my books um the same with uh was it robert lewis stevenson you know treasure island uh fame um he got a lot of his story ideas and and plot from dreams and he believed that little brownies little people were coming to him and

giving him this so that a little blending of the um uh you know physical the metaphysical in that sense the spiritual side of things and you mentioned that as well the idea of download you know downloading divine answers from from god i actually have a book about that's abc book two the mystery of dreams it's a 1600 sermon from a preacher in in england talking about how to differentiate dreams sent by God and dreams delusions from the devil sent to, you know, tempt men astray. And, uh, you know, so as much as I'm into the, so I divide things in and kind of, is the spooky woo? I don't know what to do with. I don't disbelieve it, but I can't. It's not my specialty. I don't, I don't consider myself any kind of an authority that understands it. I stick with psychological side

of thing, but there's still on that psychological side, a very heavy component of mystery that we don't understand like where does a new idea come from we can prepare and search and struggle and ask and there's some magic that happens in this gap that then leads to inspiration a sudden answer and i you know i think conceptualizing at it as divine revelation in a way is is absolutely true and you don't have to be a profit for the world and telling people about future events you know predict, you know, that kind of thing. But for you, it's like, I want an answer. I'm going to sleep thinking about the question and something magical happens in our brain.

We sort through the stuff and some force that we can't understand gives us an answer, rises the, raises up those things from the subconscious that are useful to the question and bring us to a, I can't tell you how many times I've gone to bed thinking of a question. And in the morning, I have an answer. I don't know what happened. You know, I don't even remember the dream. 99% of this funny thing, the dream wizard doesn't dream. I think we all do,

but I don't remember mine. So I have no idea what happened, but I have an answer in the morning. So when I tell people to sleep on it, this is not just, oh, give it time. That's true. No, no, literally sleep,

dream to get an answer. I think it's entirely valid and true. Yeah, I do. Can you hear me all right? Yes, I am hearing you. Oh, cool. Yeah. Um, so that there's, uh, I, I wholeheartedly agree with that because that is something that I think, uh, I don't,

personally, I'll say, like, I don't do enough. I think there's like, there's like, uh, there's like a period. I call it discernment, right? Uh, should I act on this or should I not act on this? Like the ideas driven. Sometimes I think a lot of us. Yeah, I think that a lot of us tend to gear towards like just in action. because there's a lot of good ideas out in the world.

And then there's, like, no action on the other side of that. And usually, and I'll be honest with you, so like we tried this supplementation company. I thought it was a really good idea. And I'm like, I'm going to go after it, right? Looking back, to be honest with you, I probably wouldn't have done it. I was like, man, I probably should have slept on that a few more days. But the reality is that there was the lesson learned and all that. And I think it's like an element of, yeah, there's like a gap in a period of like the idea,

the idea origination. I believe that number two, like the second piece of that is like writing it down. I see you with pen and paper. You're like writing things down. I'm a short-term memory. Shit. Like I have to. Yeah.

I heard a quote one time, the shortest pencils longer than the longest memory. So you better, you better write it down when you got a good idea. And then, you know, I, take the idea of opening up the parasympathetic through prayer. So like for me, it's the, there's this idea of like, I want discernment through an element of prayer and intention. But writing down is I think one of the most critical things that we, we miss. Then you sit and look at that. Maybe you sit and look at that. I read this book one I, uh, one time. And it really

changed my life. It actually became, when I became an entrepreneur at 28. But um, it was a 40, days to the work you love. And he had a rule. If he had an idea, he prayed about it for 14 days. And then there was either action or inaction. Like it was as simple as that. 14 days, it should not take me more than 14 days to figure it out, right? And so am I going to act on this or I might not?

I'll tell you, I probably need abide by that rule a little bit more of like, okay, this one's probably not a good one to act on. This one is. but it's the idea of coming up with that idea origination, writing it down, thoughtfully considering it through a level of discernment of like, all right, now does that now this requires action. What are what are steps one, two, and three to make it happen? Yeah, very cool.

That reminded me of something else. I'm speaking of writing things down, but the idea of the nervous system in general, I mean, that's changed over time. Used to be, they used to think of it as a fluid system. But they had a very pneumatic or hydro, hydro, what do they call it? Hydraulic conception of how the body worked. And so that's actually where we came up with the idea of nervous disorders. They thought problems with the brain and that expressed in behavior were as a result of nerve dysfunction.

This early doctors trying to figure out, well, what is the, How does the mind work? They were actually onto something, which we're only discovering in more recent times, which is that we don't just think with our brain. Actually, our brain also communicates with our organs through the nervous system. And it's all connected. So when you, I don't know if you've ever seen the video or the image on the internet, it's like a meme of, okay, so it's a slight tangent.

There's something called BodyWorks. I don't know if you've heard of that, that traveling show, bodyworks. Amazing. So they've plasticized the human nervous system and the brain. And the caption on the meme is, uh, this is the, you know, we are not what we appear to be. We are actually this weird looking tentacled alien that lives inside a meat shell in a way, that that's actually been, and it's communicating with all the difference. So they also had the conception of, um, you know, the emotions living in the heart,

specifically physically, the organ. I mean, so we know the brain definitely connects to the heart and it connects to the gut and it connects to the liver and all these other places. So we, we, you know, we can literally think with our gut and trust our gut in a way, whether that's just metaphorically or literally some of these things are, but that's also where we feel the sensations of like sudden fear, anxiety. We have visceral zings that go from our head to, uh, to the lingam, as they would say, uh, in certain religions.

Um, and I was going, with all that, but just that fascinating concept that we are, you know, we are, we are more than we think of. And it's not just the brain. It's also communicating with the entire nervous system. It's like we're thinking with our entire body a lot, a lot of the time. So I'll stop there for a moment. No, no, I think that's great just to even bring up. I mean, obviously like, no matter what environment you're in, you're projecting some level of energy, right? And so I love the idea of, we're always trying to figure out temperature control. I think that's one of the big things, right? When we're in the car, I'm always dialing.

Like, do I need to wind this back? Do I need it? Like, do I need this a little bit hotter? How do I feel? Like, that's actually what's going through where, like, again, it becomes or just a product of environment where, like, our central nervous system is really reacting to the environment we're in nonstop. And so we're constantly temperature checking thoughts or, I forget, it's some insane amount of thoughts that we have on a daily basis. Forget how many of those thoughts are actually relative, like, to our body's core temperature. And, like, do I feel like, is this a good temperature? Is a little too hot?

Is it a little too cold? And all those things come into play. Because obviously, if you put your hand on hot plate or a, you know, hot stove, your reaction, your emotional energy is going to change a lot, right? You can flip a switch rather quickly. But, like, we're always constantly gauging our environment. of when we're going into a new environment that we don't feel comfortable with, a lot of new surroundings, right? So our body then goes into our central nervous system usually ignites, right?

We have this like rush of blood going into our prefrontal cortex where we're then really, like trying to read the room, figure it out, like, what am I doing? I'm new here. Exactly. And so that's a great point that you're making is that we're like literally this jelly shell. and we all, you know, of course, looking different. I don't got that amazing beard that you have. But like our body is going through a lot of the same exercises

when we're going into various environments. And then it's your ability to control that. Yeah, and that also brought another thought to mind, the idea of how, say, certain reflex actions actually work. And we think of it or used to think of it or most people still do in some ways, that, you know, your hand, it touches something hot or sharp.

And then that sensation gets sent to the brain to process and then to your motor centers to, oh, I better move my hand. Now that even happening very fast, that's not actually the process. The hand itself, the center of the pain sends a signal to the motor cortex move. And then the signal goes to the processing center to go, oh, ah, that's hot. And so it actually works in reverse. Our body response. And that's slightly different than say the,

when you go to the doctor's office, they knock your knee and it hits a nerve that actually contracts the muscle. That's a little different than what's happening with the, with certain reflex sensation, reflexes that occur with potentially damaging sensations with sharpness, heat, that kind of thing. We actually move before we think about it rather than the other way around. Very interesting, different concept of,

how the brain is processing things. I think just understanding that sometimes shifts people's perspectives to understand how they're acting. And that can happen with, um, with other things like, uh, try, as I say, trusting your gut around people that

feel shady or something like that, people that you're not sure you're safe. You're not sure they're telling you the truth. Whatever it is. That actually is, is something we're sensing that we can't. That's basically what instinct is the idea that you're sensing something that you can't put,

into words, can't rationalize, but the sensation is real. You know, feelings are always real, even if they aren't always rationales. And sometimes you got to trust that and then rationalize it later. Okay, why did I have that feeling? And, but I think it's, it's been a bit of a disservice in some ways that there's some social pressure not to trust instincts anymore. And I, I get it that we all want to be rational. You don't want to be irrational necessarily, but just because you can't explain it or put it into words, doesn't mean it isn't real or true. So there's that, I think it's very much related in a different way, but to the idea of, you know, your hand tells you when you touch something hot before you can explain it. And it does the same thing with interpersonal relationships or dangerous physical situations.

You might be heading towards an accident ahead of you. And almost like premonitionally, you get this vision of an accident so you slow down. And it's something you can't explain. You saw some erratic driving. You saw someone not giving proper following distance. And you avoid an accident. and you feel like you know and then that's where we go to like i i god sent me a warning and we get that's a legitimate conceptualization where the hell did that come from we don't know it might as well

be supernatural god is as valid an explanation as anything else i'll stop there oh it's good hey brother i got to wrap this up in about five minutes so i just want to let you know we'll do the outro yeah yeah i was trying to keep an eye on the clock too no no you're good you're good but i do want to add to that because I think you're we're really on to some good information here. It's one of those things too. There was a there was a friend of mine who gave this analogy and I was like, dude, that's a really, that's a really good analogy. But if you pictured yourself, you're in a really dark parking lot by yourself and you're walking to your car and no one's around. You're, you're the only one walking out, but then you hear footsteps behind you. The footsteps get a little bit faster.

and your body like tenses up. It goes into the shock mode of fight or flight. And you're like, who the heck is behind me and who's like running towards me? And you're getting into your car and you're trying to get in your car real quick. And then you hear your wife's voice and you turn around. And your body just immediately decompresses, right? You're like, somebody's trying to kill me right now. Yeah.

Then I turn around and see it's somebody that loves me that just wants to embrace me. And so it's the idea of going back kind of the science element of like our body's reaction to like fight or flight. One thing that I've noticed in my life of like how to like get through scenarios like that. So I'll give you a real life example. I drop my kids off at school. And you can't make a left going out of school. Like you can like it backs up traffic. All the parents, there's there's those parents that want to make a left because.

because they want to save like 30 seconds of their life. So they back up everyone else. So anyways, I'm a big stickler on that. So there's this lady in front of me. And I'm beeping at her because she's holding up all the traffic. She's trying to make a left. And there's cars pass in and she's still trying to make a left. And I'm like, just make the right and then make a quick left.

Like you're saving 30 seconds of your left, be backing everyone else's up, right? And so I just rolled out my window a little bit. You can't make a left, right? She flips me the bird. And she's like, he gives me one of those MFers. So reality is that my body wants to, like my cortisol levels want to shoot through the roof. And I'm like, but then we get the conscious choice, right? It's kind of cool how much our brain can interact with the various hormones that we have in our body of how we react to scenarios then.

And so one of the things that I do is I just take some deep. gut breasts you were talking about how the gut aligns with the brain and how I can reduce my cortisol levels when somebody just flip me the bird and that gives me an mf her so I just breathe and then I take and quick deep gut breasts and just like soothed down I take my right come swing back around and I'm like it is what it is right it like don't worry about it whereas like majority of us I wouldn't say like majority so I should just cast this on me but want to hold on to that stress the rest of the day.

Like that lady just MF to me and flip me the bird. And then, but what that does in a reaction to our central nervous system is it tightens it up, right? And just increases our stress load where we're holding that burden through the rest of the day. And then it might then later come out towards my wife or towards a coworker or towards somebody else. And we didn't even realize it, right? So there's this element of being able to really be present with your central nervous system on how you're reacting to different scenarios because like we were saying, you're gauging,

you're always gauging. And that's one area where I had to like, I had to gauge. And then I'd like just take a breath, Matt, like chill for a minute, decompress. Like there's that lady, she ended up taking her left to her days going on, right? So just for like food for some thought of how we can react to our. central nervous system on how when life comes at us, we actually have the ability to decrease our cortisol levels that way. For sure. I think it was that discernment you're talking about. You're like, you've got a desire to respond. And it's a natural desire. And it's a reasonable

anger. It's like, this person is a jerk. And they're unapologetic and they're rude and mean. And now I have a choice. Do I carry that negative energy with me for the rest of the day and let it negatively impact my other interactions and relationships? And when you're on edge like that. Yeah, something that normally would not have annoyed you a situation with your wife is going to, you're going to blow up and go, well, screw you too instead of going, I understand. I understand. Let's talk it out. You know, that kind of thing. So, but I won't keep you. We're, you know, we never actually got around to analyzing a specific dream sequence. We just, you had limited time and we had too much fun talking about other stuff. But we got discussion of

dreams and sleep and all kinds of stuff. It was good. It was with great conversation. So, I'll wrap it up here. I'll say this has been our friend Matt Tack from Tampa, Florida. He is a podcaster, public speaker, entrepreneur health officiantado, focusing on functional wellness. You can find him at LesiFX.com and the full-fueled podcast. I brought that down when you said it so I could say the name again. Link in the description below, of course. For my part, which kindly like, share, subscribe, tell your friends, always need more volunteer dreamers, viewers for the video game streams Monday through Friday,

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I've enjoyed having you. Thanks, Benjamin the Wizard. I appreciate it and keep crushing it, brother. Appreciate you. And everybody out there, thank you for listening.