Drink Champs - Episode 101 w/ Jermaine Dupri #DrinkChamps

Episode Date: October 24, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs! In this episode the guys drink it up with ATL hip hop mogul Jermaine Dupri! In between a record breaking amount of Tiger Bone shots JD talks his come up, disc...overing Kris Kross, working with the likes of BIG, Jay-Z, Mariah Carey and a lot more! Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:04 It's DJ EFN. And this motherfucking military crazy world drink champs podcast. Make some noise! And right now, if you enjoy hip hop, if you enjoy music, period, this is hands down one of the top producers, one of the top artist development persons in the world The man has took people from nobody and made them superstars not once not twice not three times I'm talking about over ten times
Starting point is 00:03:36 He's it was the guy with the go-to hits at one point if you didn't have a JD record you just wasn't late I'm gonna add that on his back to oh, yeah He definitely put a land on his back too. Oh yeah, he definitely put Atlanta on his back. Atlanta's running hip hop. Right now, we got motherfucking one of my favorite producers in the world, Jermaine Dupri, JD Mixon! Now, off top,
Starting point is 00:03:58 Criss Cross just turned 25. Their album just turned 25. How is that? How does that feel? It don't feel like it's 25. No, but it's crazy because, you know, like, that's, I never thought it would even be something that people even care about.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Right. You know what I mean? So for people to still care about it And you know That's my history And they're grown folks now One of them passed away Chris Kelly Chris Kelly passed away Rest in peace
Starting point is 00:04:34 So now J.D. you have such a Remarkable reputation You work with kids Yet you've never had no allegations Of doing no crazy shit No R. Kelly shit around you at all. Your shit is super clean. Like, people give you their kids.
Starting point is 00:04:51 People give you Jermaine their kids. They say, yo, look, take my kid and make him a star. Please. This shit is real. And you never, like, you know, I pay attention to the rumors just because I'm in the same industry. You have a clean reputation. There's nothing like you just you're just really there to make stars. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And how is that, though? Like, how is that? Because I can see like I can see the change in Bow Wow. Like I was too young to see Chris Cross. Right. But, you know, on Bow Wow, I would go backstage and I would see you guys. And I seen him go from a kid to an actual grown man. Now, how is that to see the transition when you see people?
Starting point is 00:05:31 I mean, you know what's really funny is that when you speak about the kids, I only ever worked with two kid artists. Chris Cross and Bow Wow. Chris Cross and Bow Wow. That's enough. But everybody thinks that's all I work with. But, yeah, so so I mean, really, both of them just watching them grow up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's like having a kid. You know what I mean? Like you see them and you watch them grow up. And the brat was quote unquote, she was a teen. Yeah, they all was teenagers. Everybody was a teenager. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Skate, Jagged Edge, everybody's been teenagers. And you started young too. You was dancing with Houdini. In 12. Yeah. God damn it. That's hip-hop right there.
Starting point is 00:06:10 That's real right there. That's real right there, man. So you an outcast to me was like the first people stepping up for Atlanta. Showing people that. Because at this time. And for the South. At this time. You're from Miami. He's from Atlanta, I'm from New York.
Starting point is 00:06:27 At this time, us in New York, we always thought it was like, Bama is, and y'all was slow, and then you came out with your music, Outkast came out with their music, and we realized, oh, they're pretty much the same as us, just with a little accent. Yeah. But how do you feel like seeing Atlanta be at the forefront of hip-hop now? You ever thought this day would come? I mean, I think it's amazing because I... Criss Cross was actually the first, you know, rappers to bring platinum music to Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:06:58 basically, as far as the rap goes. Because there were bass artists coming out of Atlanta, too. Yeah, I mean yeah all the so so their base all stars was my artist to run I'm saying as far as like you know crisscross first album they sold eight million records you know I mean so it's like they was the first people in Atlanta to create what y'all see right now hold on you can't just just say 8 million records lightly like that. Let's make some noise for 8 million records like that. And how old was you at that time?
Starting point is 00:07:29 I was 17. What? You sold 8 million records. God damn, let's make some noise for him. I don't even know how to count that. That's just a lot of money at 17. So was there ever a time where you went like you you realized that you know you're not yourself no more like you got hollywood basically ever once no no no because i
Starting point is 00:07:52 you know i had this um i always had people that seemed like they didn't you know they wanted to check me you know because i was so young right so i, I always had to deal with the young thing. Like I'm a young nigga. So everybody think they got one up on me. So I was always out here to just try to prove myself constantly over and over again. So like when I was mixing, um,
Starting point is 00:08:15 I was, I was excited like that one day, which you're talking about. Like I was, I was on my Hollywood shit at the studio and I was excited. Crisscross was number one. And Bruce Springsteen was like number two. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We was popping. And I was running around the studio just really excited. And it was like the first day I met Babyface. And Babyface was at the studio and he came in and he was like, I was like, oh shit, it's Babyface. He was like, yeah, what's up?
Starting point is 00:08:44 And he's like, yeah, you got that little record jump huh yeah I think it's too young over there. I'm sorry I'm sorry I had a moment. He hit me with the little record and I'm like little record nigga we poppin like that's where I was at but then he hit me with the, you know, yeah, you got a little record. This pop is good. Right? But he didn't really seem like,
Starting point is 00:09:10 it didn't seem like I did nothing to him. Now, was that towards you or was that towards rap, period, at that time? No, that was towards me, I think. Okay, cool. I felt like it was towards me. All right, cool. We're taking it like that.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You know, and he was just like, you know, as a producer, songwriter, you know, that don't really mean nothing until you can do it multiple times. Like get more to prove. When he said that, my Hollywood shit went out the window. Like, okay, Babyface just tried to stun on me. Right, right. I got to get this nigga back. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I got to go working, you know what I mean? So I just, from that point on, I just started, like, focusing on putting out more and more artists. I wasn't even thinking about nothing else, Hollywood or nothing. Right, right. Just let's go. All right, that's real right there. Now, I got to ask you about this line. Tretch said, I got to see, be with Jermaine because he owes me for the jump shit.
Starting point is 00:09:58 What is he talking about? I don't know. Anybody named Tretch? Yeah. You don't remember that? He never, did he ever get paid? I don't know. I'm asking you. I don't remember that? Did he ever get paid? I don't know. I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I don't think so. But what was that about? Nah, you know, like, everybody thought I stole that song. Everybody wanted to say I stole a song from somebody. Like, I don't know why. But, you know, it's just like, like I said, when you're young, as a young producer, as a young artist rapping in hip hop at that particular point in time, young niggas was getting the straight sun.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Like, nah, nah, nah. We ain't letting y'all in. We not letting y'all in. Then the record got super big and it was like, oh shit, they in. What we going to do? Right? So then it was like House of Payne, they already stole the record. Did the records come out the same year?
Starting point is 00:10:43 No. Jump came before House of Payne record. Oh, wow. But they think that they- What was House of Payne, say we stole a record. Did the records come out the same year? No. Jump came before House of Payne record. Oh, wow. But they think that they... What was House of Payne record? Jump Around? Yeah. Okay, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They said that the label, because we signed a rough house, and Joe Niccolo, basically, Joe the Butcher, basically signed us. It was his label. So I think they thought that Joe played their version of the song for me and then I went and redid it. People are just trying to find shit all the time.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And then Naughty, they did jump but they did something before they did I don't remember Naughty's jump. OPP? No, they didn't. Before they did OPP, they used to do this jump thing on stage. Oh, it was a part of their act, like their live show. It was a part of their act. So, you know, they felt like I took that from them for the song as well.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Oh, okay. Did you ever get together and talk about a squash hit or anything? I mean, me and KG was cool the whole time. You know, Tretch just was like Tretch at that time. It was just like, it's just Tretch. Translation. Oh, he was like that back then? I didn't know he was like that back then. It was just Tretch. Butlation. He was like that back then. I didn't know he was like that back then.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It was just Trench. But we all, it's all good. Now, recently, we had the Hip Hop Honors Awards, right? Now, they say I'm a hater because they never invite me, right? But that's not what I'm bringing up right now. But you are. But they don't invite me, right? Let's just throw that out there.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I got to invite you. Let's just throw that out there. But let me just tell you something. The only part of the show was I didn't appreciate you and Masterpiece sharing that moment. I felt like you needed your own moment. I felt like he needed his own moment. Yeah. Is that how?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Well, I mean, you know, it's my second time being honored. So I think that they was like, I think probably, I don't know, VH1, if they even thought about it. I did it before where I really, you know, me and Puff performed. Bow Wow did Criss Cross, Franchise Boyz K. I did like a whole big performance before when I was on it the first time. So I think this time they was just really trying to show which labels they felt like from the South. It wasn't really about me per se it was about the labels so that's why i think we shared it was really like what labels they feel like
Starting point is 00:12:51 put light in the south okay you could be humble i'm not gonna be humble for you you deserve your own moment they should have had you out there they should have saluted the whole so-so depth sometimes they were mixing songs. They had Fat Joe and Remy Ma perform with Trip Daddy and Trina. It made no sense. I feel like hip hop deserves more. Not to diss the hip hop
Starting point is 00:13:15 artists at all, but we deserve more. I felt like that whole moment should have been a so, so deaf moment. It should have been. I felt like your artist should have came out and performed for you. You know what I'm saying? At that moment, like all the artists, all people that were just fans of you, like even like, you know, I know this is throwing it out there, but even like a Jay-Z, you know, come out and, you know, do a Money Ain't A Thing with one of the new young artists. I just felt like they could have did better more because for us going all these years, we were not celebrated.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Now we're living in a times where it's social media, so we can celebrate it. And another thing, this is what I want to tell you. This is what I want to tell you. If, what was our guy's name? You know where I'm going. Rap Radar. Oh, okay. He was disgusting.
Starting point is 00:14:01 He said you wasn't top ten producer. He got a game. I got a game. B-Dot. Yo, B-Dot. It was disgusting. He said you wasn't top 10 producer. He got a game. I got a... B-Dot. Yo, B-Dot. I said, yo, I don't understand. He got to relax? He got to relax.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I wanted you to walk out of the interview. I'm not even a hater, but I was just like, J.D., leave. Leave. You are hands down. Listen, there was times where labels would sit around and be like, you need a Jermaine Dupri record. This is real shit. And I'm talking about people had to come.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And then what Jay said, he said, I'm going to even make your shit tighter. There was a time where you really had to come to see you in order to make a hit. You defined the word hit record. You know you believe that. I think that's a hard, like I carry that, that's hard. Yeah, you do. So I never really try to pay too much attention to that. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You ever, somebody come to you, yeah, they come and try to get a hit record, you know that, it's not even no room for me to even like, just be cool and do anything, it's like, oh, God, they want this. They want that. They want this. I got to try to get this again. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You know what I noticed? And maybe you can help me with this. That if you kind of maintain being a producer, you won't ever fall off. Like at some point, they're going to get tired of the artist because he's the front man. But if you're producing records and you know how to do it and you maintain a certain Producer can never fall off. Is that true? Not I can if you start like copying your sound copy your Your sound like you know, like when people like people will come to me and say I got a new artist
Starting point is 00:15:40 I want give me a game kind of ready me some of them usher records that you write and I'm like, no I'm not I'm never gonna do that Like I would Always try to stay away from that That was making my job Even harder basically Cause I Crisscross sound like Crisscross
Starting point is 00:15:52 Mariah Carey sound like Mariah Carey Usher sound like this Brat sound like this Nobody records Sounded like I took this And gave it to this person You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:16:02 I couldn't do that Did you ever have to Be in the studio and Mariah Carey said a wrong vocal and you had to tell her, do it better? No, she's probably like... I would be scared to death.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm like, she's not that artist. She's cold in the studio. She knows exactly what she want to do. She telling me, sample this, nigga. This is real shit. I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She-hop she hip-hop like a motherfucker yeah now now you worked with jay jay made i'm gonna ask you just random industry stuff uh jay made this album 444 right now now had i would have loved that album at 25, would I have loved it at 35? I'm 40. I just turned 40. I love it. But is it because I'm 40 or is it because it's just a great body of work? You love it because Jay's rapping.
Starting point is 00:16:59 You know what I mean? Right. He's rapping. Right. That's what you want to do. Right, right. You want to hear Jay-Z rap, he's rapping. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Like, he's giving niggas balls. He's throwing shots. He's doing what we wanted to hit Jay-Z do. Right. And then on a different level, like the way No I.D. chopped these samples up, it's like, this is new music, by the way. The music sounds like nothing else that's ever came out.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So you should love it. If you love hip-hop, you should be, you should cherish this album, because it doesn't sound like anything else that's out. And it made him seem like he wasn't trying to sound like that sound, neither. Like, so many, it hurts me sometimes when we have legendary artists, who are
Starting point is 00:17:44 legends, they don't need nothing to add on to their career. And they go to try to get the new future sound or the new Uzi verse. I always kind of hate that because it's like you don't always have to be the same, but you can always just stay in that realm. And what Jay did was completely opposite. It was just like he just did him. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that album was cold to me. Like I said, I think that
Starting point is 00:18:06 from a production standpoint, I think it was genius that he went and found one producer. Right. Like, nobody else has been doing that recently. Right. They just did something that was just like a mindset of separate than what's going on in the game right now. You think the way he released
Starting point is 00:18:22 the music also has something to do with him having the luxury to be able to do You think the way he released the music also has something to do with him having the luxury to be able to do that album the way he did it? Putting it out through the phones and not having to worry about certain expectations of releasing records the way it used to be. I know. I think he had a responsibility
Starting point is 00:18:37 that people was holding to him. Niggas wanted Jay-Z to come out and rap. Let's hear Jay-Z. Let's hear Jay-Z to come out and rap. Like, yo, let's hear Jay-Z. All right. And Jay-Z, let's hear Jay-Z in a way that none of these other little young rappers could. Let's make sure that they don't sound like they could even come nowhere around. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He did that. He basically. No, definitely did that. Set that tone. Like, yo, this what y'all do, this what I do. All right. At any given time, y'all want to come over here? at any given time y'all wanna come over here alright y'all gotta get your shit right
Starting point is 00:19:07 alright alright now let me ask you a question as a producer right you ever gotten to a studio hey Mr. Lee can you pop one of these bottles pop it over there
Starting point is 00:19:14 cause you know you're not that skilled um have you ever been in a studio with an artist any artist it doesn't have to be hip hop and they just didn't deliver
Starting point is 00:19:22 and it turned you off yeah yeah let's talk about it J.D. um It doesn't have to be hip-hop. And they just didn't deliver and it turned you off? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Let's talk about it, J.D. Oh, man. I mean, it's happened a bunch of times. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's happened a bunch of times. I won't say that it turned me off. It's just a learning lesson for me, right? Be careful. That's hot. What lesson for me, right? Be careful. That's hot. What is that? It's a rosette. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I guess one of the ones that really shocked me the most was that Whitney Houston I was in the studio with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus. Told you.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It was like on cue, too. Look, that was Whitney right there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whitney said, put some respect on my name. Go ahead, JD. You was in the studio with Whitney. Yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:20:17 Go ahead. My cadence of writing is... I'm a rapper. Right. So I write songs like rap records. Right. My cadence of writing is I'm a rapper Right So I write songs like Rap records Right So I try to get the artist to sing
Starting point is 00:20:30 Like rappers You know what I mean So if you listen to like Usher He basically sounds like he's rapping When he's singing these songs So my cadence Hey yo EFN What's good man
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Starting point is 00:22:11 I had Whitney Houston in the studio. I wrote a song for her, and she couldn't catch my cadence. And I was like, I was really fucked up. It was Whitney Houston. I'm like, she's the best singer in the world. But she can sing, but that cadence just wasn't what she was used to. So it didn't make me like, I hate this artist. But it really let me understand that what I was doing was something different than what they was used to.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Now, have you ever had an artist get Hollywood on you? Salute. This is to you, man. Right now, this is J.D. Jermaine Dupri. I don't know what to call them. Call them both whatever. It's today. All night, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:22:49 We celebrating your life. We celebrating your career. And we celebrating you. Make some noise, goddammit. Like, have you ever got an artist get Hollywood on you? Like, you know, come to the session late. Come there and just not perform. And just, you know what I mean? Just, you know, drink some Hennessy. And you're like, man, to the session late come there and just not perform and just
Starting point is 00:23:05 you know what i mean just you know drink some hennessy and you like man i remember you from the beginning and now you just you know what i mean no i ain't never i mean not not because i you know like i'm really when it comes to the studio shit i'm really like um i'm way different than any other producer like i don't like i don't like people in the studio when I'm working. I don't be with the girls in the studio. I don't be with none of that. I'm trying to get the work done. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So a lot of people don't really, a lot of artists, they don't even, they think my shit is too, like, cookie cutter. But, I mean, that's how I do. That's how I've been doing forever, right? Right. And so it's really, like, straight to the point when i go to the studio i don't really have nobody come like too loose right um i mean i'd have had situations in the studio that's crazy though right let's get to it let's talk about it i mean i i i thought about this
Starting point is 00:23:57 one on the way over here and i never told nobody about this i know you wanted this story yes please i want it yes i don't know what it is but i I want it, god damn it. Let's go. I was in the studio of Big, right? And the first time I ever seen Biggie, the very first time I ever seen anybody not write their lyrics down. This is before money anything. Yo, but keep it real. I don't want to cut it, because I'm definitely not cutting off the story. But isn't it scary to see a motherfucker just go like this in their head? They'd be like, that's how people write rhymes without they'd be like and it's like yo the first time you're going even further big never mouth nothing okay big would do big as smoke ten blunts listen to the beat and never mouth one
Starting point is 00:24:43 time oh he not even bobbing neither? I mean, he bobbing. Oh, okay. But he never was like... That's crazy. Never. Not one time. I'll sit there and watch them. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'm like, I got to see how you do this. By the way, I wasn't doing this. I was still writing my raps on paper. But I saw this firsthand by him. Very first time. I'm like, I got to learn how to do this shit. Like, what is... Oh, you know how to do that shit? How do you... Yeah, I don't'm like, I got to learn how to do this shit. Like, what is, how do you? Oh, you know how to do that shit?
Starting point is 00:25:07 How do you? Yeah, I don't write nothing. I don't write anything now. Oh, yeah. I'm a special education student. How do you? So sorry. I'm like, how?
Starting point is 00:25:16 So, and he's not talking to you by the way he's doing this. He's like, see, he's rolling another, C's, roll another one. Roll another one. And I'm like, this nigga's chain-smoking blunts and his verse is done right there. And he's like, yo, put the mic up, I'm ready. And I'm like, when did you write the rap? And he's like,
Starting point is 00:25:40 I got it in my head. And he goes in the vocal booth, it's not like he's experimenting with the flow yeah he's kind of like it sounds it sounded like he was out there rapping but he didn't do it so that studio session was um this song called just like me with usher right so what he did was he wrote the rap for Lil' Kim. Lil' Kim at this particular point in time, this was the time when Big, I'm thinking he
Starting point is 00:26:09 fucked Kim's sister. This was in the music. This was in the music. And she found out about it. So she was upset when she came to the studio about this. And he couldn't
Starting point is 00:26:27 really get her to do the rap and Mia Usher was just you know we was dead young watching what's going on and big pulled strap out on her on camera yes and to lay the verse or just Real shit like this is a sign of big you gotta watch yourself. She was upset Wow And really couldn't do what she wanted out though. Huh? But was she wilding out? Yeah, like she came But she didn't really want to come cuz she was upset right and he was like yo we got jd and usher here you can't be acting like you know and i'm like i don't know what's going what the fuck is going on right now and it just went around for a minute like you said it was it was that kind of deterred the studio session but it got to a
Starting point is 00:27:21 point where she she really couldn't do her rap So he pulled out the studio, and they went into the hallway. And in the hallway, I thought they was going to go out there to talk, so I just went out there to watch and see what was going on. I went out in the hallway and followed them out in the hallway, and Big and they started having an argument. Her and Big, they had an argument. And it got so heated that he asked his man, C. Gutter, he said, give me the gun.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And I was like, the gun? Fuck you about to do with this? And he was going to shoot him. Holy shit. Right in the hallway. This is crazy. I don't even know if you were worthy of that story. This is crazy. This is crazy. That's one of my crazy stories.
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Starting point is 00:32:30 You scared him into hiding it. You want to bring that out and I'm fucking drinking this? I just want to know because this is a very distinctive drink. Where's the bottle at? Oh, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Put the chair up, baby. You're drinking right there.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You're drinking right there. Come on. Oh, that's what I'm talking about! That's what I'm talking about! Pull the chin up, baby! That's right! Nah, nah, you drinking, goddamnit. Come on. You always got a rough life. You always got a rough life. This the shit I told you about. I'm talking about it. Nah, he gonna... Where's the dog? Julio?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Oh my God. JD, listen. Okay, I gotta stop this. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Yo, yo, I gotta stop this. Okay You closer to it, can you grab that I gotta stop that we're gonna get the dog Oh, yeah, so look, let me let me let me ask you something right? We this is on this is a hundred episode Every episode is funny to me Because I think I know the artist Because I've been In this game 20 years So I think I know the artist
Starting point is 00:33:28 So I pretty much Say what I think The artist is going to order Like to drink I got a new bow I was going to order Surah You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:33:35 Whether it was A relationship with Papa or not I knew that But when you said Dawn Julio 1942
Starting point is 00:33:43 You are the only guest who's ever requested this. I know. This is some rich shit. Because I got a homegirl named Mona, and she goes to the club, and she takes $70 shots of this shit, god damn it. Let's make some noise for $70 shots. So I need you to break this down for me. Tell me why is this special. I mean, this just, I mean, if you're going to drink to drink tequila I mean it's a lot like let me say this is
Starting point is 00:34:09 not the only tequila but it's just that that this that party tequila mmm you know it's more than a party it's that party to give us like that and and it go down smooth I could drink a whole bottle of this. You could drink a whole bottle of that. We're going to try to see it, JD. You know this is a drink test, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, Bow Wow, we here celebrating Jermaine Dupri. You know what I'm saying? This is a prodigy. This is a prodigy.
Starting point is 00:34:33 That's the first time I think I've seen you. I'm excited, man. I'm excited. I'm here because I feel, and I know Bow Wow is going to co-sign me On this fully I feel like You're a producer That gets more props Just worldly As opposed to just hip hop
Starting point is 00:34:52 And hip hop We got to praise you more Okay And if hip hop Ain't praising you right Or if they not I'm going to praise you We going to praise you
Starting point is 00:35:01 Drake Champ's going to praise you We going to have fun Tonight I'm going to drink I'm going to drink I ain't going to kill a nigga At all But we going to do it We gon' praise you. Drink champs gon' praise you. We gon' have fun tonight. I'm drinking. I'm gonna drink my champagne. I ain't gonna kill a nigga at all. But we gon' do it.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So now, so this is a smooth. Describe this to kill us. I mean, it's just, you know, like, like, shit, describe the bottle. It's like, it's like, it's like. Shit look rich. It's like drinking Dom. Like, you know, like, when we first started drinking champagne, we was drinking all kind of, we was trying to see what was going on, right?
Starting point is 00:35:27 And I found a safe place with Dom Perignon. Like, the Dom P and putting, like, Grandma Ye in the top, mixed Grandma Ye inside the bottle of Dom P, and it's amazing. Wait up, wait up, wait up. Did he say Grandma Ye in the Dom P? Continue the story This is crazy I'm into this
Starting point is 00:35:48 This is crazy He put the Grand Marnier Inside the Dom P And it, you know It was stupid Right But then As time went on
Starting point is 00:35:55 We started drinking This rosé The rosé And it's got a You know It's got a very, very Smooth taste Same thing with this
Starting point is 00:36:03 We start out drinking What was this shit called? What the... Tequila? Yeah, the other tequila. Jose Grabo? Huh? Huh?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Jose Patron. Patron Silver? Like Patron. The people start drinking Patron. People who drink Patron, they like to die at night. Like at night, they just die, and then they just come back to life. Yeah. That Patron just was too harsh.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It's too harsh. It's like it goes straight to the bottom of the abyss. Yeah, it's too harsh. Like, let me float to the bottom. You know what I'm saying? It takes you to a dark place. It's too harsh. So then, as we was moving around from the, you know, the Patron, this came about.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So you wanted to stay with tequila is what you wanted to do. I mean, I didn't want to. Oh know Okay, I just know I just fell on this I'm gonna be honest with you. Um JD as a as a as a real drinker. You just described yourself as a real drinker I did not know Someone described liquor the way he described the move I'm not a killer guy. I need ice. This is hot. Yeah, this is hot. Let me get the cup because I don't want to put the ice on me.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You know what I'm saying? Come on. You need ice too, man? I got some ice. I'm still fucked up from last night. Okay, what happened last night? Let's get into it. Uh... It's a... It's a story. Let's get into it. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:37:29 This is talking about Womb Paws, man. I celebrated my birthday last night at Live. Oh, you a Virgo? Yeah, I'm a Libra. Oh, a Libra? Y'all are cousins? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm a Virgo. Yeah. Okay, I get along with... Right there. Right there. Yeah, okay, good. Oh, I gotta take a shot to that? Yeah, yeah. Okay, let me... Damn, I gotta take some of that?. I'm gonna take some of that I'm gonna start sweating like sunny DBT
Starting point is 00:37:58 You gotta only take a sip of that cuz this is yeah, no, you gotta throw that back I'm not the tequila poor buddy. As you can see I'm not a great guy when it comes to kill a war So listen, this is your shot of you. Hey, this is my first by the way By the way, this is my first I took mine already. It's my first on dawn Happy birthday 1942 yeah Miss at least said I had it one time in the club, but I was drunk and I remember so that doesn't count Okay, so let's go Cheers drunk and I remember so that doesn't count okay so let's go Cheers
Starting point is 00:38:26 oh that's smooth it's that salt that to kill of rings that salt that take kick back I hate because it reminds me of Mexico like this. That ice is good, though. I know that ice is good. I mean, cold period. This is it to me. You know. That's when I hear that. Be a tequila sip. I never understood it, but now I get it. Let me ask you, JD.
Starting point is 00:38:54 What's your favorite era in hip-hop? Um. I like that, right? I like that. That was good. I like it. He's thinking it, too. I'm getting better, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I got to be thinking about the questions. You know what I'm saying? No, because that's a good question, though, right? It is. I got to pick myself up. I think, like, for me, it was probably, like, say the 90s. The last part of the 80s. Fuck me up with that one.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Now, last part of the 80s. Because of hip-hop or because of music in general? Hip-hop. Okay. Let's describe that era. Who's the man? We're talking about Rakim. Run DMC.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Run, no, no, this is Kane. I'm talking about Run DMC. Run DMC, okay. I'm talking about Big Daddy Kane coming into the game. Now, what Kane? We're talking about Kane with the... Three, three, yeah. Kane messing with Madonna.
Starting point is 00:39:48 No, that's not... That's Hollywood Kane. That's Hollywood Kane. That was later. Madonna came later. I'm talking about Fort Greene Kane. Fort Greene Kane. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:39:56 When he had the big four fingers. That's your favorite era in hip-hop then. That's my favorite era. I mean, because I'm... You see I got the rope on. Right. I'm into that. That's my... You know you know slick Rick is my favorite rap of all time Wow We looking for you. That's my doggy fresh, too
Starting point is 00:40:12 I just found out that slick Rick almost shot Big Daddy Kane on the bus You trying to kill somebody you try to shoot them on a Day in the bus Oh yeah! I was like, yo, they was like, yeah! You trying to kill somebody, you try to shoot them on the tour bus, like right here, pow! Well, they in the bus, both of them. Both on the bus. Oh, shit. Because apparently, you know, sometimes when I do drink champs, I don't immediately go back and watch it. But whatever Eric Sherman said, he had, you know, my phone is going crazy. I just changed my number.
Starting point is 00:40:42 People are like, yo, look at you, he missed this one. He missed it. is going crazy. I just changed my number. People are like, yo, he missed this one. And I'm like, no, no, no. You know, he's describing the EPMD,
Starting point is 00:40:49 had problems with Rock carrying him back in the days. You know, they're all cool now. But I didn't know that because I was a spectator at that time. I'm just from the sideline.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I didn't even really technically come out to 97. You know what I mean? So, me looking at that and so many people was calling like, and they told me that story
Starting point is 00:41:04 that Slick Rick actually had beef with Big Daddy Kane and actually pulled a gun out and try to shoot him Yeah, and then they told me that Kane and Rakim Happy Wow, listen, I gotta save it for when they hear back to jail Yeah, we gonna have Big Daddy Kane soon and rock him so so bad. What is your favorite ever hip-hop the 90s 90s top Yes, god. There make some Top, yeah. Make some noise for Bow Wow, goddamn it. Now, why you pick that era? Because that was like the era where I first fell in love
Starting point is 00:41:31 with hip-hop. Any specific time in the 90s? The mid, the late? Anywhere from like 93 to like 96, 93, 97. That's my favorite era. Yeah, because I ain't get a chance to really live through the 80s. I had to YouTube shit the good shit that was going on in the 80s But the noise I lived at you know, I mean I was deaf roll pox. No
Starting point is 00:41:54 See for me it was just the most the creative the creative era of hip-hop was the best This is like people was trying to do some trying to do Even in the 90s we we got to say that. Even when you came out with Original Style, there was versions of fake Wu-Tangs. There was versions of fake Mob Deeps. There was versions of fake MOPs. So, like the copy me style that people are doing now, I can't say that didn't exist in the 90s. But it didn't fly in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Oh, no, no, no. You got checks for that. It flies now. You got checks for that. It didn't fly in the 90s. But it didn't fly in the 90s. Oh, no, no, no. You got checks for that. It flies now. You got checks for that. It didn't fly in the 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so that era, just identifying all brands, Adidas,
Starting point is 00:42:36 and what was going to be what niggas wear to the future, just seeing that. Right. And being able to, like you asked that question, and being able to go back and look and say which one I really like, it was that era where people was really like, this is what y'all going to wear down the road. This is what it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:42:55 You know what I mean? That's why crisscross to me was so fly to people because they had all of that flavor. How did you discover them in the mall? Walking walking through the mall in Atlanta. Just heard them right. It wasn't really small. It wasn't rappers at all They never read. Oh, so you just say you guys gonna rap. Yeah, Lennox. Oh shit. No green bra. Okay green bra Yeah, they up. Did you ever cut them the smaller check never right? They were
Starting point is 00:43:33 Just the aura your name was in the mall and they just looked like Like grown-ass me at 11 and 12. They wasn't they wasn't full lock up Then he already rocking the back joint and it was just shopping and they was buying sneakers. Right. And I thought it was a group that already came out that I ain't know nothing about. Right. Because the girls in the mall was tripping. Like, they had girls at the store buying them shit and all kind of stuff. And I'm like, who are these little guys? Right. And I walked up to them.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I'm like, what do y'all do? We don't do nothing. We just kick it. And I'm like, y'all just kick it? Right. What does that mean? And, right like they had so much swag i was just like they gotta make a record somebody gotta you gotta do something right i mean i seen it immediately like they had this they just had this aura about them and then we went back once i met them i mean we talked and we went to that we went back to my
Starting point is 00:44:21 house and we started creating the idea and then it was like Everything was about gear like everything was about when clothes starters and all like whatever fly She was called. Yeah, all that everything is a bad news. Jeez Pepe everything when I Pepe It's time to spend it, so I had to be there on it. You know what I'm saying? It's Puerto Rican, you know what I mean? But go ahead. Damn, Pepe wasn't hot for real? No, no. Go back to Pepe. I'm sorry. I didn't touch the Pepe. I got it. No, so we was, they was just trying to figure out clothes, and then it was like, one day,
Starting point is 00:44:54 Leliski and Chris Smith came to the house, and he had this big-ass jabot jumper on. And the jumper was so big that you could actually spin around in it and not even, like, it was so big, it was like the oversized. So I was like, I was like, yo, you should flip it around backwards. Because it was already so big and it didn't make no, it wouldn't make no difference anyway, couldn't tell. And
Starting point is 00:45:17 our barometer was the mall. You know what I mean? I found him at the mall so he was going to go back to the mall and see if this worked. So he put his jump on backwards And we went to Lenny Square And we went to Lenny Square With no They still had no record
Starting point is 00:45:29 They still had no record We went to Lenny Square He had his jump on backwards And the whole mall Was acting like They'd never seen Nothing like this ever in their life And they're not famous
Starting point is 00:45:38 They're not even famous And I'm like What the fuck just happened How is this possible But what were people doing Like what is this They was just like Oh my god What is this What y'all got on I'm like It what the fuck just happened? How is this possible? But what were people doing? They was just like, oh my God, what is this? What y'all got on? I'm like, it's just a regular ass jumper turned around backwards.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Was it cross color? No, it was Jabot. Oh, Jabot. Okay, you remember Jabot's? And they was freaking out. So then from that point, I was like, okay, we gonna wear our clothes backwards. Right. We still didn't have no song though.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Right. So it was like, we got to get clothes backwards. Why? We still don't have no song, though. Why? So it was like, we gotta get a song to go with this. If I get a hit record to go with this, y'all gone. That's what I just kept telling them. It's over with. They ain't have braids or nothing. We just started just trying to figure it out. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Like, okay. I had braids. Real artist development here. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was really just trying to... And Left Eye from TLC, that was my group before they got signed to the face. So Left Eye was living at my house. That's great. Rest in peace. And so it was me. Let's drink some more,
Starting point is 00:46:35 Jason. You going in, baby. You going in, baby. Please, please drink some more. Yeah, so Left Eye was living at my house without my mother even, she lived there. She lived inside my house. Before TLC. Yeah, before TLC. Oh, TLC was my group. They was called Second Nature. But we just lived with two boys. We was just T-Bars and Left Eye.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Okay. Right? But Left Eye stayed with me. And she was on the, like, trying to get an image thing all the time. Like, the patches and the condoms and all that shit. We was there every day just trying to, we was doing shit to ourselves that cut our whole eyebrows off. We was doing crazy shit just to try to figure out what we could come up with to stand out.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And she was partially part of helping me develop crisscross at that point. Now, I seen you on a reality show, I forget which one it was, but they brung you a white kid, and I think he sung for you and you said this kid has talent immediately, right? And I imagine that's how you felt because that's how you just described Criss Cross. You've seen them and you knew it. Have you ever been wrong
Starting point is 00:47:36 and said, I don't see it, and then the person goes and blows up? Yeah? Oh, damn, man. Damn, my nigga. Go ahead, man. What's going on? I want to see it. I want to see what you're saying. Yeah Oh damn Damn my nigga Good head man Good head man What's going on I want to see
Starting point is 00:47:46 I want to see I want to see What you're saying I wasn't wrong Okay But I The people around me Was wrong
Starting point is 00:47:54 Okay let's get to it Right So Cause I don't know What you mean just now Sound like a Trump answer It did sound like a Trump answer Like
Starting point is 00:48:03 John Madden I don't know what year it was You're not just gonna a John Madden. Like, John Madden. I don't know what year it was. You're not just going to sign John Madden? 2000. John Madden 2000. This was the first time they wanted to put rap music in the video game. They never had rap music in the video games. So they came to me.
Starting point is 00:48:17 They was like, yo, we want you to make an intro for John Madden. And I ain't had no artist. I mean, I had artists, but I ain't think that my artist was like animated enough. And right, it was this guy that was on the radio named Chris Lovell Lovell, right? And he was making these animated-ass
Starting point is 00:48:34 commercial-sounding radio things. I know where this is going at. So I went and got him. He was in my neighborhood. I went and got him. I said, yo, I'm going to put you on this John Madden video game. And I basically signed him at that point.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Like, yo, I co-signed Louis Lovell up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And he was on the John Madden. They sold whatever, you know, went on John Madden. That shit popped. And at that point, I went back to my office, and I asked everybody in my office, I said, yo, we should sign Ludacris. And everybody told me no.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But he was Chris Lovellove at the time. He was Chris Lovellove. And everybody, the whole staff told you no. Everybody was like, it's animated. We don't know what that's going to be. But animation rap was hot at that time because we had Busta Rhymes. I always consider Busta Rhymes somewhat of an animated rapper. Very animated.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Red Man, somewhat of an animated rapper. Very animated. Red Man, somewhat of an animated rapper. Very, very animated. I mean, I was into it. But at the same time, I was dancing between trying to be an executive and letting the people in my office actually do something. Wow. Right? So I asked people, and they was like, nah, we don't really know about that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And to this day, I'm mad because that was my art. Was he already rolling with shock at that time huh with shocker sure yeah of course they've been together yeah so I mean that's that's the that's the only one and I wasn't wrong because I used him I already had put him on okay the German so I knew what he was cool I just didn't react fat like I should have fun fact a fun fact I'm gonna jump at a 2002 okay, high five. Goddamn it. Bow Wow, you know you wanna go in.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Come on, Bow Wow. I was waiting for you to light the blunt. Okay, I got, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got your own rock, baby. We blew up, we in one way now. You came, Lil' Bow Wow came to us. That's amazing. Bow Wow, listen, listen, we got new microphones.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Nah, same, same. We brand new. Yeah, we brand new, B. I was gonna say, there's a couple artists that JD says He's both side Jeezy What you got mo what's a little more not now no You yeah
Starting point is 00:50:43 Who won't you cool love? Early, early on. Yeah. Early, early on. Yeah, yeah. Who brought them to you? Kool Love. Yeah, Kool Love. Kool Love from up above. Oh, I know, because y'all was cool. This is true. I know about what I'm saying. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Nah, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But it wasn't no signing, though. It was like, he brought them to me. Right. They came, but it was never like, yo, I don't know. It just ain't never seemed like it was like that. No, but at that time, I'm going to be honest, St. seemed like it was like that time I'm gonna be honest St. Louis it's not even like back on the map they weren't on the map at all so it was a risk because I remember telling Penalty Records because he's a company of Kuda Love Kuda Love had my
Starting point is 00:51:15 homeboy who was my man um now I just met him back then it was Pierre Cardin so uh Kuda Love had brung Nelly to Penalty Records and I heard this shit and I was like, yo, I said, yo, listen, I didn't know how to sign anything. I was just getting my... But you already had the record too? If I could have signed, no, down, down, baby. You had that? I think he was shopping to deal with that. That record?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah, I swear to God, I told Nell Levine, I was like, yo, I said, yo, listen, that's how I knew Nelly. If you listen to that first album, he shots me out two times on that album. I had known him because I went to the... Because that's the same time David Banner didn't... Quick letters. David Banner was signed to the penalty. Quick letters, excuse me, you're right. And they wouldn't give them money for their budget.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So I said, what? Take the money out of my budget. Didn't know this guy was going to wind up being David fucking Banner years later. But I told the motherfuckers with Nelly. I said, yo, look. I said, what? Take the money out of my budget. Didn't know this guy was going to wind up being David fucking Banner years later. But I told the motherfuckers with Nelly. I said, yo, look. I said, yo, look. This is different. See, the thing is, a lot of times New York companies couldn't think outside the box.
Starting point is 00:52:15 See, me, I would go to these towns. I would go to St. Louis. And I would go hang out in the worst club and shit where they only see you cups like this. You order a bottle and they just bring you. They don't give you the bottle. They bring you the shit and only see you cuts like this you want a bottle and they just bring you a bottle they bring this in plastic you like a whole lot then I want a bottle that on this is just that type of place like you can't have a bottle here and I was out there st. Louis is real like them since this was blood and crimping for real out there I told the label I I said, yo, so you had a chance to do it. I'm sorry. Did he sell? Who did he sell?
Starting point is 00:52:46 18 million? Yeah, I'm getting it back. 30. Right, 30 million? God damn it. 30 million. Now, you know you got to be on the drink champs, too. Yeah, yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Damn, you had to sign this. That's the only one. That's the only one? It sounds like there was another one. But when I said Jeezy, a little bit? No. All right, so let me ask you. Speaking of Jeezy, let me ask you, Atlanta, you guys got to see the BMF era, right? Like, that shit was big for us because that was like modern-day Alpo, modern-day Rich.
Starting point is 00:53:17 We've never seen, we've never heard of, like, these guys, like, those type of guys in the South. Like, we've heard of, like, that of guys in the South like we've heard it like that in Harlem and the Bronx and Queens so the first time like New York people was here in a BMF they're like what the fuck but you you got yeah got you too right you got to live that era I lived in Atlanta at the time and I don't think I was old enough to get into the club but Jerm he ain't seen it. Jermaine was actually in the show. He ain't seen it. I seen it. I seen it. You know, firsthand.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I seen it actually come to life. That's crazy. That's even like the 50 Cent. I hope that he really got the story the way it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Like, they should have called me. I seen this shit from scratch. Like, day one. Before it was even Like a crew like this
Starting point is 00:54:07 I seen I know You know I'm a meat We used to be in the club Me Right We used to be in the club
Starting point is 00:54:11 And it was just like him And like one person Matter of fact I had a security guard That he took from me My man Big J He took my man He took my security
Starting point is 00:54:20 And that was who He was rolling around Atlanta with And then like He got this idea To just turn that shit into a game and make it bigger than what what it was his help I'ma feel it be a rose even though I can't keep switching now He made a Jeffrey. You know what that is?
Starting point is 00:54:47 He mixed the... He mixed everything. Everything. Everything on hair and put it in one cup. I ain't gonna lie, I died for 12 seconds. Like, 12 seconds, I was like, what? What's the shit Red Rocks used to say? What Red Rocks used to say?
Starting point is 00:55:00 I'm coming. She missed all this shit. I'm coming. Let me see. Jeffrey. No, you ain't got to do that. You ain't got to do that, JD. coming! Let me see. Jeffrey. No, you ain't gonna do that. You ain't gonna do that, JD. Oh!
Starting point is 00:55:08 Okay, that's... But this is flyer. That's 1942. What's that? He just made it. 1937. That's the new grandma Yeh instead of grandma Yeh? You bringing the rosé? This ain't bad, though. It don't look bad, though. I can't even lie. It looks good. This might be somewhere else. So, you drink alert.
Starting point is 00:55:24 You drink alert. Oh, shit. It looks good. This might be somewhere else. So now I asked you your favorite ever, but what is the most fun you had in music? Me? The 80s. The 80s? Yeah, because I mean. Well, you weren't really on in the 80s, were you? I was on tour. I was on tour. But, you know, for me, it was like, it's a story that nobody else, you know, I like being a part of stuff that I can't share with other people.
Starting point is 00:55:53 You know what I mean? Like, at 12 years old, I was. You realized it was a role. That's the end. I realized some pots of gold. I'm sorry. I don't know who you're at. This took over me.
Starting point is 00:56:02 So sorry. At 12, I seen shit that, like, niggas that's 50 ain't never even seen. You know what I mean? So it was like, that era for me, just like, that's what I learned. That's what I saw.
Starting point is 00:56:17 You know what I mean? I was, I loved my virginity at 12. God damn it. Go ahead. Go ahead, JD. Go ahead, JD. Go ahead. You know, I don't think we ever talk about virginity at 12. God damn it. Go ahead. Go ahead, JD. Huh? Go ahead, JD.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Go ahead. Go ahead. I don't think we ever talk about virginity on Drink Champs. I like that. Let's go. We can ask you. We can ask you. We can talk about asking you. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I don't want to talk about that. You want to? You want to talk about asking you? I don't want to talk about that. All right, cool. Later on.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Go ahead. Oh, yeah. So, two shots later. Oh, yeah. That era, just me running around and actually seeing, like you said, going to different cities and actually realizing that it's other stuff going on besides where I was at. Right. a chance to actually really just like run around and see shit and be on tour with Run DMC and Fatboyz and Grandmaster Flash and Houdini at 12, 13, 14 years old. I don't know what's better than that. Now, as a person, I could tell, I know you love music just from your discography, but
Starting point is 00:57:21 was you ever frustrated with music? Was there ever one time when you was like, man, fuck this shit? Yeah, as far as, not frustrated with music, just frustrated with the fact that the way people looked at Atlanta. You know, like you said already
Starting point is 00:57:36 about the Bama, like, I was catching that. I had a group before Criss Cross called Silk Times Leather. It was two girls that was on Geffen and they was like the girlfriends of Houdini.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Like in real life? Huh? Yeah, real life. Real life? That's ill. That's an act. You know what I'm saying? Like I thought he was
Starting point is 00:57:56 an example. No, no, no. You know what I mean? Like female version of Houdini. Real life, they was the girlfriends of Houdini. Then they happened
Starting point is 00:58:03 to live in Atlanta. I met them on tour when I was young. And like, oh, you live in Atlanta? Yeah. Okay, well, shit, when I get back home, let's kick it. And then I got this idea about them. But when I was putting out their records, I used to go to New York and have to give my record to like Red Lurt and Chuck Chillout. And I think I remember Chuck Chillout saying like, man, I can't really play this country shit.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Right. Oh, wow. Like something like that. Wow. And I just was like, that's when I really like, oh, I'm going to make this nigga, he going to change his words. But is that how you developed like being global? Because like when you hear a Jermaine Dupri record, it's like it's for everybody. Yeah, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I didn't want to be stuck like that. Because I felt like, like I said, I was the one taking the hardest shots. Outkast wasn't out when Criss Cross came out. You know what I mean? They actually, Outkast told me, they tried to sign us, so so death. That's one group that I didn't... I never... Oh wow. Oh, JD, man. We got to take a I didn't, I never did. Oh, KD, man. We got to take a shot today.
Starting point is 00:59:07 You played a, wait a, hold on a second. Hold on. You had a chance to sign, I don't care. But I ain't know. Okay. They said it was calling my office, but I don't, you know. There wasn't ever no meeting like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Oh, so they didn't have a buzz in the neighborhood? I would think, because back then, that's how artists would be. Everybody in Atlanta was trying to get that. No, no, but I'm saying artists back then, you had to have a buzz in your actual neighborhood before you even got to any offices anywhere. So I would think OutKast had a buzz in their local hood. I mean, I'm finding out a bunch of... Flo Rida was with us last night.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Flo Rida also told me that he came to Atlanta, came to my office and tried to get me to sign him. Right. And I never met him at that time. So there's a lot of that going on. But anyway, like, Criss Cross was the first rap group to go in,
Starting point is 00:59:50 like I said, from a platinum standpoint. So there was nobody else there. So we was taking all of the heat as like, you know, these little young niggas, country niggas from Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:59:59 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh-huh. And we was getting that. So I was just determined to like, you know, change people's minds from that place. place right so after uh crisscross you went into a female from chicago how did how did how did you link up with the brat how did that happen? Well, Xscape came after Chris Grant. Ooh. Yeah. I apologize. Yeah, you got Chris.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Okay, let's go to the skate. Xscape. Then we go to the brass. Okay, then we go to the bow. Xscape came first. Okay. And Xscape, they came to my birthday. I had a birthday party in, like, my neighborhood,
Starting point is 01:00:38 and they came and they sung happy birthday to me. But you knew the group or somebody brung them to sing happy birthday? Yeah, this guy Ian Burke, he brought them to my house and let them sing happy birthday to me. I didn't the group or somebody brung them to sing happy birthday? Yeah, this guy Ian Burke, he brought them to my house and let them sing happy birthday to me. I didn't even have no label at this time. They came and sang
Starting point is 01:00:50 and I told them that day, like, yo, I said, I'm going to get a label deal. When I get a label deal, I'm going to sign y'all as my first group.
Starting point is 01:01:00 That's what I told them. And they probably didn't believe me or whatever, but it did happen. That's what happened. So that's what, you know, the escape story like that's They saying at my birthday and they lit right now. One of them is a housewife. The other one is a housewife
Starting point is 01:01:21 Right now Yeah, I think I think I think music should be universal I think you should be able to do music until you can until you can't do it again yeah I mean everybody else do it then what now you want to listen you can set it up here but the one I'm going to come on we're going to take that right there actually no I'm not drinking that's right oh yeah JD personal got to be able to this is herbs it is no sign of me this is in the
Starting point is 01:01:56 juice balls you know juice balls ginseng on crazy to him it's juicy on crash you want me to shout out with you the same way I explained that we all got a drink it's very healthy. No, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta try this shit. You gotta try.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I'm a bow wow man. You gotta try. I'm a bow wow man. You gotta try. It's a drink change right up past six. It is a drink. Rick Ross did four. Rick Ross did four.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah, he did. 50 did four. 50, did he do four? He definitely did it. No, he did five shots. He did five shots. He did five shots. He did five shots, but not that.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Just a shot. Let's get the shot glass going. I don't have to take my shot glass. I can't put it in the hole. You definitely can put it in the hole. What the fuck? Even Amber Rose! Amber Rose! That shit needs to be mine.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I still got tequila in there. What's the girl? Alright cool, are you going to pour the shots? I'll pour the shots. Please pour the shots. You got to be respectful. Nah, I'm going to pour the shots. It's JD's shot.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It's my birthday. I'm going to take it easy on everybody. I'm still riding off my birthday. A lighter to it is set on fire, right? Look at that. Yo, and let me tell you one thing. Not only I respect you, but the world respects. The world respects how you
Starting point is 01:03:09 stand by your people. Like, you always stand by even when Bow Wow went a little crazy for a week, maybe two, maybe two weeks, maybe four months. You still sit Bow Wow, my nigga. That's my, like, I love that. Nah, I wouldn't take no I love that I'm not gonna take no pictures with him
Starting point is 01:03:43 This is how we do it This is the only how we do it is ah, ah, ah, come on you ready You gotta take the glasses off just for this just a little bit, but you put right back on Come on come on Yeah, you gotta shut up! You gotta shut up! Put your hands up! Nigga, I was warning you. I was trying to set you up. Yeah, you in, you in, you in. Come on, come on. Nigga, I'm ready for this.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Raise your glass! Raise your glass! Raise your glass, let's go! Let's go! KD! KD! KD! KD! KD! Let's go. JD, JD, JD, JD, JD, JD. Let's go. Let's go. There you go, go all the way. Go all the way. Go all the way.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Get your ass, get your ass, now. I told you. Change your life. Let's have your strikes again. I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I told you. I told you. I told you. I told you, I told you I was gonna win. Oh, my God. Change your life. Ten of your strikes again. Change your life. It's a long way from don't put it on 19. Yeah, I'm tearing this. Go ahead, Bala. Bala, Bala, Bala, Bala, Bala, Bala, Bala.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yeah! Yeah! That's Bucca Highball Bone and Bean Bowl in 1987. Why do niggas drink this? Tell them. Tell them. I ain't going to lie. I'm going to let A.F. in. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:12 This is your story, buddy. You need to tell me why people drink this. This is your doing. Why do people drink this? It actually is actually like... It's not a good story. Fuck. It's good for your sex drive.
Starting point is 01:05:20 It's an herb. Like, they say that there's people that wake up in the morning, they take a shot of that, they clean up, go to work, then they come back home and they take a shot of that. Because it gets you up and it also puts your ass to sleep. Look at Bow Wow. Look at that. You said such jobs, though. What is it?
Starting point is 01:05:34 Huh? This is supposed to keep you up? It's supposed to be an aphrodisiac. It's an aphrodisiac. It's not like you walk around like a Vagra dick. You know, like the Vagra shit where you be knocking shit down. It's not that. It's like, but if you play the game, you'll be ready.
Starting point is 01:05:44 It's an ancient Chinese secret. If you happen to play the game, you'll be ready. You can go all night. It's not that it's like but if you play the game you'll be ready No more no more And these are not the version with real tiger. So let me ask you something. I'm going to get a little real right now. Because you did multiple records with Big. Was after Big passed, did it? Because I don't think in hip-hop we would have thought that, first off, using Big's lyrics,
Starting point is 01:06:24 that we wouldn't have thought hip-hop would have made it this far. And now that hip-hop has, we wouldn't have thought that hip-hop would have took it there where you could actually die in hip-hop. How did your life change after that? I mean, I'm in it. I've been in it since I was 12, so it just feels like the dirt that I come from. Right. I've seen way more shit than just, you know, the biggie shit. I mean, I was, the craziest part about Big's death is that I was in the truck before I had got in the truck.
Starting point is 01:06:59 With him? Yeah. Wow. I got in the truck because it was L.A. Right. And the tension was, you know, everybody was already on, like, this high alert in L.A. So when we came out the party, I was coming out the party with Big, and Big was like my man. Like, he was always looking out for me.
Starting point is 01:07:20 So he was like, yo, JD, you can't stand out here. This is L.A. You can't stand outside. Big saying that to you Yeah he telling me this Cause my car My car hadn't come up yet So his car was there He's like
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yo you can't stand outside Yo you get in here with us And And When you You know Whatever However you gonna do it
Starting point is 01:07:37 So I jumped in I was basically in that That truck Damn Wow My car pulled up Right before they pulled off Wow
Starting point is 01:07:44 And I got out the truck. And I got in my car. They pulled off and that's when I heard the shots. Wow. Oh, you actually heard the actual, I mean, it was right there. Yeah, it was right there. Yeah, it was right there. So, how did you
Starting point is 01:07:59 start moving different? Yeah, I mean, we had a whole bunch of that. Like, we had like Tommy Mottola had got us security. Yeah. Like he's on Sony at the time. Yeah. That's the time we had. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It was crazy. I mean, you had like, cause you ain't really know, like you, you definitely realized, um, that it was real,
Starting point is 01:08:20 but, but like I said, me shit that people don't know is that that beef between Puff and Suge started at my birthday party. Okay, well. Segway facts. Okay, yeah. Segway. Okay, we got to get straight into that, but let me ask you,
Starting point is 01:08:35 are you ready for this? Because this is something that was crazy to me. You ready for the Puff thing? We have Puff on Drink Champs. We want to hear what Puff said. I heard what he said. Okay, we're going to play it just for the puff thing yeah we have puff on drink chance we want to hear what puff said I heard what he said okay okay yeah we try to be professional JD come on this is hilarious Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Has your phone gone? You're making us look terrible. And you know homeboy was in the tunnel, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:10 and we go and have a conversation. This is the time when we run the tunnel, you know what I'm saying? So to make a long story short, you know, this is where the after party's at, of course, at this world famous tunnel. And so then when I had that, I ran up and I asked him and he said, now, so about Jermaine Dupri. And I was just like, yeah, So then when I had I ran up and I asked him and he said now so about your main to pre
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah, I was just like okay, okay, okay now The way you just I don't know what answer. What you want me to say? I have no idea. I don't know. Yeah, the facts. What are the facts? To that, you're going to get to your party. The party. What? Well, I mean, that's what Puff said that Chug came into the tunnel. Yeah. He came into the tunnel and told him he was looking for me. No, not looking.
Starting point is 01:09:55 No, no, no. That when he said at the Source Awards, he was talking about me. Right, right. Yeah, that. Yeah. Well, I guess we got an answer. Which side do you think is a little... Come on, man. Y'all know better than that.
Starting point is 01:10:07 That's not... I mean, we was there. I was there. By the way, like I said, I'm the guy that's been at the forefront of everybody's movement. Me and Snoop was like this. That's how power came.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So me having beef with Death Row, that wasn't even... Snoop was in my office. Coming to Atlanta wasn't even, Suge was in my office. Right. Coming to Atlanta, kicking it, like hanging out in my office. And that's what I'm saying. Like, I invited Suge to my birthday party. Suge came to my birthday party with just him and his one dude.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Right. I invited Puff to my birthday party. Puff came with the whole Bad Boy crew. Right. They had beef from that sauce shit. Right. But I wasn't ever even thinking like it was no real beef. I wouldn't even invite it.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I wasn't thinking about it like that. Right. But the whole night went. The party was great. Beautiful party. Everybody had a good time. Then we went to this after party. We went to the after party.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I guess Puff and Suge had some kind of like saying, said something to each other before, whatever, at my party. So they got to this after party. Shug came to the club. And Puff went outside. And they had their words in the middle of, what's the street, Maurice? What street we was on?
Starting point is 01:11:22 All right, anyway. My nigga was polo pajamas outside. Damn it, Maurice. You're killing him out here. That nigga with the polo pajamas outside. Damn it. I looked in the mirror before he came outside. I respect you. Anyway, they had their little words, right? They went outside
Starting point is 01:11:36 and they were in the middle of the street. They were in the middle? The middle of the street. Puff and Shug. Wow. Outside in Atlanta. This is at your party? Yeah. were in the middle with puff the middle middle of the street puff and should wow outside in atlanta and this is at your party yeah is it a calm conversation or they no it's not a calm conversation um but it's a very hostile conversation and their cruises is ain't no crew i mean sugar's got one person oh puff got a crew Shug got one dude with him. All I know is Puff started drinking his champagne
Starting point is 01:12:12 while he was talking and I guess somebody must have said something to him. And next day I know, you know, Wolf, rest in peace, you know. He let off a shot and let off a couple shots and Shge Mann got killed right there in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Wow. That was the beginning of that whole shit. Wow. Like, I mean, you started at the Sorcerer's, but I'm saying for, for, so you're saying like, like big and maybe pop might've been like, they ain't have nothing to do with this. Yeah. But it affected like, yeah, it went into that, but They ain't had nothing to do with this. Yeah, but it affected, like... Yeah, it went into that, but they ain't had nothing to do with this. This was all, like, CEO to CEO shit.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Wow. And what Puffer were we talking about then? Did he have big at that time or no? Yeah, of course. He had big. And then who was shows? The whole Death Row. Yeah, the whole Death Row.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah. I mean, this is like... No, he said this after the source awards. He said it after he's saying that. Yeah, the whole death row. Yeah. I mean, this is like... No, he said this after the Source Awards. He said it after he's saying that. Yeah, this is after the Source Awards. Yeah, this is after the Source Awards. This is like, you know, it was after the Source Awards.
Starting point is 01:13:13 And I, you know, I started having these birthday parties where I'd call people and have everybody come to my birthday. So it was like... Like DJ Khaled bit your shit because I remember he was you who did it first.
Starting point is 01:13:22 It was Khaled. Big up Khaled. Big up the Temple shit. I remember it. I'm keeping it real. The temple shit. I remember it. I'm keeping it real. He knows that. Everybody come. They came to Atlanta,
Starting point is 01:13:29 and this happened at, you know, it actually happened at my party. Wow. Nobody will ever talk about that. Nobody will actually know. This is like Friday exclusive for y'all. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah. It's for us. God damn it. You want another shot at 1942? I just feel like, and it's your birthday too, man. It's Saturday night, and I'm in Miami.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I'm going to take another shot. Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Notice I said 1942. He wants to figure this. Yeah. Yeah, let him do it, please.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Because trust me. Yeah, I got to go in, right? I mean, he says it's his birthday. He's got to go in. No, no, no. What are you going to say to me, Bow Wow? Bow, bow, bow, bow. Oh, the bow.
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Starting point is 01:18:24 Now, look, now, I gotta big you up. I gotta big you up. Let me tell you why I gotta big you up, too. For one week, right, at least way more than one week, everywhere I went, people were just hating on me. They said, damn, fuck this nigga Jermaine Dupri.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Fuck. You bad Janet Jackson, god damn it. Excuse me, excuse me. Let me be proper about it. Yeah, be Dupri Fuck You bad Janet Jackson God damn Excuse me Excuse me Let me be proper about it Yeah be nice bro You bad Penny
Starting point is 01:18:50 From the good times Oh my god You make it nicer Yo Listen to me Listen to me That is everybody's challenge Niggas was hating on you
Starting point is 01:19:01 Did you feel the hate Niggas was hating Listen I'm telling you from the other side. That's the first. I would just be walking in. I was actually here in Miami going into. What's the club on Monday night out here? King of Diamonds?
Starting point is 01:19:19 No, the one that we'll just be going to. Rockwood? No, not Rockwood. Oh, you're talking about Mocha. Mocha. All right, so Mocha was a different club but we have pulled up to me and Janet have pulled up to mocha oh I like the way he say Janet is this is makes the noise for the way Oh That's pretty
Starting point is 01:19:48 Look at now your battle do it you all camera y'all Yeah, yeah, come on. God. This is for Jay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a lot of CEOs that come on the show. They go in. I mean I got do three three is my limit look I Was doing Jack Tiger bone for 20 years, and I'm still not used to it, but 20 years I mean, we got video of us. Yeah, okay? Listen JD limited 20 years. We got video of us in military. Fuck it, listen, JD, let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Niggas never seen this coming. Like you, I think you created this celebrity couple. No, no, no, Bobby and Whitney
Starting point is 01:20:54 did that for you. Yeah, but that was meant to be. Like everybody else, like, you know, like when they see the celebrity couples,
Starting point is 01:21:02 they think, they think of that. Because see, Bobby and Whitney, they were the same couples They think of that Because see Bobby and Whitney They were the same person Like in reverse I understand I absolutely understand I mean all due respect
Starting point is 01:21:16 When I say but they were the same person That's why you can't Well Michael and the Presley That was the opposite You can't be with a girl You're not supposed to be with a weed smoker. I'm just throwing that out there. Because at some point, you're going to be like, yo, damn.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Did you just smoke weed? You can't be. It just doesn't work. It doesn't work. So I went a little crazy. All right, let's get back to this. So how does that even happen? Come on. back to this. So how does that even come on? Most black people
Starting point is 01:21:45 who grew up in that era and seen good times is even scared to even speak to. Did I tell the story? I told the story on the podcast. One day, I was in the studio and they said, everybody gotta
Starting point is 01:22:01 walk out the studio, right? And I was mad as fuck. Like, what? I gotta walk out the studio. And then they said, everybody got to walk out the studio, right? And I was mad as fuck. Like, what? I got to walk out the studio? And then they said, because Janet Jackson's about to walk through. Mind you, we're in the studio secluded. Why are you whispering? Because that's how much I respect Penny. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:22:18 So they said Janet Jackson. At first, I was like, why I got to get out? And then I'm with Chris Lighty and shit. You know, he's rich as shit. And they go, you got to walk out. He said, I was like, why I gotta get out? And then I'm with Chris Lighty and shit. You know, he's rich as shit. And they go, you gotta walk out. He said, I ain't walking out. And he said, because Janet has to walk through. So when she walks through the studio, everybody has to walk out.
Starting point is 01:22:36 So when they said it was Penny, I said, I'm out. I'm respecting whatever Penny want. Give me a high five, nigga. I'm out. I'm respecting whatever pity he wants. Give me a high five, nigga. I was like, and Chris was like, yo, yo. I said, Chris, you got to relax. Certain people, you just got to walk out. And then let Janet Jackson walk through.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And that was the highlight of my life. I have never seen her ever after that. But you bagged her. That was your girl. I'm going to make sure she hears you say that, too. Give me a high five, nigga. Give me a high five, nigga. Give me a high five, nigga. Do you know what good times meant to our
Starting point is 01:23:12 era? That was our Pamela, what was her called? What's the Foxy Brown lady? Pam Gryd. That was like the ideal woman. Every black man wanted that. If you're from the hood, you wanted Pam Gry. That was like the ideal woman. Like every black man wanted that. If you from the hood, you wanted Pam Grier.
Starting point is 01:23:28 That was the era before. But then my era came and then that Janet Jackson. And you got that. He whispers every time he says that. Yo, because you don't know. My respect is saying. You understand? I'm asking you some personal shit, but it's respect because as a nigga that's in entertainment.
Starting point is 01:23:46 We didn't think people could go outside the box. Rappers was just like, we didn't see that. We didn't see that coming. Even when you said Bobby and Whitney, Bobby was technically R&B. You represented hip-hop. So just how did that happen? I went in. The intro was crazy, JD. The the intro was crazy but you know I'm
Starting point is 01:24:07 sincere with it like I mean this I don't know how know, you get to talk to people just like anybody else. Like, you know, you get your shot. You shoot it. You got to shoot it, right? I shot my shot. It's like a Nike commercial. I shot my shot, and you know what I mean? And it worked. And it worked.
Starting point is 01:24:40 How did this go down? You didn't need that, like, live or something. Like, we're the jobs first. Honestly, yeah, we did You didn't need that like live or something. Like, where did y'all first meet? Honestly, yeah, we did. We met at like,
Starting point is 01:24:48 Live? We met, not like live. Alright, but a live type? You know what's crazy is that I met Janet
Starting point is 01:24:56 with Chris Cross and we got to go backstage and see her and I was like, not so famous but they was famous so they've been famous since 14 huh she been famous 14 but they was they say Chris Cross they
Starting point is 01:25:13 got all the attention so they actually was the ones that that she really wanted to meet more than anything so they had but I was like the crew. I was them plus JD. So I got a chance, the opportunity to go through there. So we went backstage and they was talking to her and all I remember saying was,
Starting point is 01:25:35 yo, I'm going to see you again. You're going to see me again. That's what I told them. And I was, you know. And you saw her again. I saw her again. God damn it. Make some noise. And they ran somewhere. And I was and you saw a guess I got damn it makes
Starting point is 01:25:53 They she said man, I'm miss JD or something like that. I ain't gonna lie go get that back y'all Ready somewhere this is like, uh. You read it somewhere? It was somewhere. I was like, oh, shit. I said, damn. I wish I had your number at that moment. I swear to God. I would have called you with some real nigga shit. Like, the real nigga, the real nigga.
Starting point is 01:26:16 You better take that back, man. Bring it back to the A, man. Bring it back to the A, man. Bring it back to the A. Give me a good high five, nigga. High five, nigga. Bring it back to the A, man. No, because that's dope.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Like, J and B. Like, that shit just looks right. I ain't even going to lie. This is my man. He probably don't give a fuck. But I like seeing Nas and Nicki. Like, it's something about that that I like. Nah, that looks right, though.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Nas and Nicki. It feels right. I'm like, get them niggas out there in Gucci suits. I'm like, go ahead, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, go ahead, nigga. All y'all listen. This is the first time I wanted to be a troll. Like, I wanted, like, people was like, oh, man, he wanted to post something. I wanted to be like, you fucking bitch-ass motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Like, let a man be happy. After you're 40, people be lonely. I'm happy I love my wife right Sometimes I look at my wife I love That's what people need And when I see Nas
Starting point is 01:27:12 I'm like I see him with Nicki Regardless if Whatever you think about that That man look happy man Fuck it Let the nigga Who cares what anybody thinks
Starting point is 01:27:23 What's your personal opinion On whatever Let the niggas be happy let a nigga try for love Can't be in love you gotta relax Everybody make some love Oh look, listen, by the way, we get fan mail all the time We get people that send us shit But nigga invited us to his wedding
Starting point is 01:27:52 I feel like he's gonna relax A fan invited us to his wedding We got a big hand Mine have already passed Where's the cameras at right here? Let me see, what nationality is him? Cause an Indian, I'd invite't ignore it in my wedding. I'm being honest.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yaritza Colaso and A. Barta. Oh, this is Spanish people. Oh, that's why. Definitely. The marriage of a week. I don't know if we can make it, guys, but let me see. Where is it at? What week is it at?
Starting point is 01:28:18 Let's see. I don't know. Let's see. Sunday, the 24th of September. We coming right now. We just missed it. Oh, fuck. I hope.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I hope. But where is it at though? Let's see where it is at. No, they're from Hartford, Connecticut. But this is what we're going to do for our fans. Westfield, Massachusetts. Listen, what we're going to do, fans who really want us that they wear it. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:28:38 This is crazy. Because they think we're going to just drink with everybody. The fans who really want us that they wear it and send us. And what we're going to do gonna do we're gonna crash some fucking right we'll pick a couple more crash you're gonna crash someone else you're gonna walk in with Tiger mom mama get suited in booty I'm wearing a wire that I'm why I'm that that's it which one with the pockets up here yeah the pockets are right there you do are you't got the pockets right there. The legit joints with the pockets right there. Yeah, I put the cigar right there.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Are you cool with the new YVETTAS without the pockets right there? No, no, no. It's crazy because I always have my weed or my cigarettes right there. You know what I'm saying? That's Spanish shit right there. That's Spanish shit right there, baby. You and Bow Wow got lost for a second. You got to relax.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Bow Wow is Indian, you know that? That's what I'm saying. know that Not get that go what you thought of the bow wow challenge the You got the power Okay, hold on hold on about you It's the first time I've announced one. Hold on, we're going to announce it right now. Come on, everybody hit the table. Absolutely. Everybody hit the table. Bow Wow Challenge show is coming.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Okay, so what TV? It's a cable. It's called Bow Wow Challenge? Yeah. Oh, you killed that. Yeah. Them niggas made fun of you and you made millions. Goddamn, this make me laugh.
Starting point is 01:29:56 It's coming. It's coming. So tell us, bro. Tell us, bro. This nigga, this nigga, this nigga, these niggas is genius. It's going to be kind of like a combination of, if you were to combine like a catfish and a punk together. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:10 And it's pretty much, it's pretty much we just, because you got people who will throw on the gram for certain reasons. You know what I'm saying? If it's, you know, motherfuckers dealing with bullying situations or, you know, they feel like having positive comments makes them feel some type of way. But at the end of the day, it's just like be who you are. But we bust them. It's like a family member or a friend might be like, yo, man, the homie be always on the gram.
Starting point is 01:30:29 He be doing what he really ain't. So we set them up. They'll set them up. We're going to come bust on me. And I got two cast members who I can't name just yet. And then we go ahead and crack down on the case, which is, you know. I'm not going to lie. That's all.
Starting point is 01:30:42 If you flirt, I dig it. He's not going to lie. That's all. I get a man of a positive. If you flirt, you're on the hunt. That's all. the case which is you know and that's coming top of the year and I'm like a fake trying to be a producer now like my producer nigga in me is like you suck it's coming here cuz you know what I thought I thought of trolls you ever thought of that? Like trolls. Like going to meet the actual trolls. Like let's suppose
Starting point is 01:31:08 a person say something. I think Maino and Ed Lovell was in the mall one time and then somebody said something to them and they actually
Starting point is 01:31:16 turned around and they went and approached them. It was like, yo, why didn't you just say something about me? And I was like, damn, that actual show
Starting point is 01:31:23 actually works. Like, you know, I landed in Ohio and some nigga said, well, fuck you. Ohio don't fuck with Yeah. And I was like, damn, that actual show actually works. Like, you know, I landed in Ohio and some nigga say, well, fuck you. Ohio don't fuck with you. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:31:29 all right. You pull right up on them in Cheeseburger Baby and say, what did you just say? And the nigga be like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:31:36 You know, you don't know this guy. This guy is, he's a troll. Yeah, trolls. I thought of that show, but that show is real.
Starting point is 01:31:44 It's coming. And then, like, whatever they was, they was front, we actually give them a chance to like, He's a troll. You know what I mean? Trolls. I thought of that show, but that show is real. It's coming. It is. Whatever they was front with, we actually gave them a chance to live that life for a day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You already shot something?
Starting point is 01:31:53 Shot the pilot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need another blunt? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I think you do. Come on. I think you do, baby.
Starting point is 01:31:58 I think J.D. should hit the blunt for the first time. You know, J.D. don't smoke. But I think because, you know what I'm saying? Nah, we don't. If you never smoke, no, we don't want that. You know know I'm saying now we don't we don't if you never smoke no we don't want that If you smoke on a weekend, I'll be like I cool, but if you never smoke I don't want to do that
Starting point is 01:32:16 You want to go back to 1842 Oh my God! Oh, I need one more time. You're gonna shit this fuck up when I'm trying to do it. We're gonna stretch. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. All right. Wait, we had two. Three is my lucky nine.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Two is my max. That's gonna be the last one. So this is gonna be the last one. I got you. That's perfect. I'm gonna watch out and train that shit. KJ beat me up right now. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Come on, baby. You said I'm gonna go out after we do this interview. I'm gonna shoot you a problem out of the blue. And you're single right now. I'm gonna go out at the club. I'm just gonna go out after we do this interview. And you're single right now. I'm going to go out to the club. I'm just going to throw this out there. I just want you to be prepared for when Penny come back. You got to do this in the name of hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:32:56 In the name of hip-hop. See, like that's what I'm saying. You putting that pressure on me. A little bit. A little bit, yeah. We got to bring that back to hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Listen, JD, this is something that I've been thinking about and we've been speaking about on this podcast a lot. Hip-hop should be its own religion. Like, we should have our own award shows. We should have our own union. We should have our own everything. Like, if a person gets sick, let's suppose somebody from Houdini got sick right now. It should be a union that just come and just, you know, provide those services. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:33:31 Of course, you would get relations to them. But, see, do you think this union shit is this? Yeah, I think it's shit. Damn, I totally forgot. We said yes to this, right? That's a big shot right there. Okay, no, bow. Where's bow shit?
Starting point is 01:33:44 No, no, no. I'm cool. No, yo, bow. You can't do it. No, no, no. This is what Jason Berger right? That's a big shot right there. Okay, no. Bowel? Where's bowel? Nah, nah, nah. I'm cool. Nah, yo, bro. You can't do it. This is for Jay. You're not doing the shot, though. Alright, you want to switch? Yeah, I'm gonna switch. Two is my max.
Starting point is 01:33:53 No, three. Three is a lucky number. Three is your max. No, no, no. I can go. You can pour some out of here. Two is my max. I can go.
Starting point is 01:34:00 You can pour some out of here. I'm gonna give you some. Yeah, because you don't got a lot. Oh, okay. That's no problem. Hey, let me pour some wine on your shit, too. Relax. Damn. gonna give you some, but yeah, because you don't got a lot. Yeah, I got it. Oh, okay, that's no problem. Hey, let me pour some wine on your shit, too. Relax. Damn.
Starting point is 01:34:08 This is a grand shot. All right, cool. That's a good shot. All right, cool. All right, cool. This is it. JD ain't gonna make it to the club tonight. God damn.
Starting point is 01:34:16 It's over. See? Yeah, god damn. All right, cool. Niggas is crazy. Oh, man. That's awesome. What's crazy?
Starting point is 01:34:24 Listen. Yeah, I love it. What's crazy, listen. Yeah, I love it. What's crazy about this is that... We listen. That's not good? I'm vegan. Oh, this goes with you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:34 That's why you wanted more. I'm going to be honest. This ain't that bad. It ain't that bad. It don't even taste like alcohol. It don't even taste like alcohol no more. It's starting to taste like... It's herbs.
Starting point is 01:34:44 It's herbs. Fermented herbs. It's not alcohol no more. If you don't eat taste like alcohol no more. It's starting to taste like... It's herbs. It's herbs. Fermented herbs. It's not alcohol no more. If you don't eat meat, you... But it used to be not vegan. Is it alcohol? No, it used to be... No, yeah, it's alcohol.
Starting point is 01:34:53 It's fermented. Yeah, it's fermented. Yeah, no, I mean, it's starting to not taste like alcohol. It's considered wine, is what they call it. Yeah, it's actually considered wine. It ain't that bad. Look at that. It don't even burn no more.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Come on, bro. It still burning my throat. It don't burn no more more. Come on, bro. It still burning my throat. It don't burn no more. I'm good with it. I can do four. Oh, man. Shit. I do four with you, too.
Starting point is 01:35:15 I'm going to read this invitation. So, look, look, look. Let me ask you, what was the wildest moment you and Mariah, like, making music had? Like, what was the craziest like you want that story yes I do I kind of do I kind of do I kind of feel like I um um MC don't kill me um but this is this is exclusive drink champs exclusive talk about exclusive Drink Champs exclusive. Taco Bell exclusive.
Starting point is 01:35:59 So I went to do Always Be My Baby remix with Brat and Xscape at her house. And she lived next door to Ralph Lauren. And like upstate New York right all over and she could never really drive
Starting point is 01:36:12 cause she's Mariah Carey and she was married to Tommy so he wouldn't let her drive the security had to drive her around
Starting point is 01:36:20 but she didn't like that she wanted to get out and drive so Brat became her Driver. Like yo, let's go. So I'm downstairs making a beat In the studio her and Brat they done broke out took a car and left no security don't know what's going on So I'm downstairs trying to make the song, get the song right.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And then all of a sudden, it's like alarm going off in the house. And people running around frantic, like, yo, what the fuck is going on? And like, then you go to Tommy Mottola house. I guess I could say this. Tommy Mottola house, you know, like people outside with guns. I believe that. This is real shit. Yeah, this is shit. So my security come, company make us check out straps
Starting point is 01:37:05 right cause everybody else got they strap you don't need no strap over here everybody got guns so that's how this house was it was like that's what was going on
Starting point is 01:37:13 so Tommy and everybody is looking for Mariah she's disappeared right she's completely left the house and I'm downstairs
Starting point is 01:37:24 and and Brat is with her so they think I house and I'm downstairs and Bratz is with her so they think I know think I'm in on it so I'm getting like questioned and I'm like I don't know what the fuck is going on and they actually really questioning me like nigga you know what's happening this is Tom Mottola and Mariah's people
Starting point is 01:37:41 yeah everybody's going crazy and they went to McDonald's. Like, on some bullshit. Like, that's where they went. They went to McDonald's. Mariah Carey and the Brad went to McDonald's. Okay, now,
Starting point is 01:37:53 I want to know who ordered. Do you know who ordered? I don't know. Because you had to be dealing with it. I know Brad was probably high, so she probably ordered all the food. Right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:02 But anyway, I mean, like, so, I'm in this house getting basically questioned. Right. Like, where's this woman at? And I don't know nothing about it, but they not believe in me. Right? And the security dude's about to get fired because he allowed her to, she snuck out. It was just like some real crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Oh, Mariah security. Yeah. Oh, he's about to, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like, Tommy's about to, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, Tommy's going to kill him. Yeah, yeah. Like, you're about to die because you let her get out this house without, you know what I mean? Like, that was crazy to me because I'm fresh, like, just from Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:38:37 I'm like, what's going on right now? And I'm way out in this house that's way out of state New York. And it's like, that was crazy shit right there like just to see a star that level you know actually want to do
Starting point is 01:38:50 something that's different in they life and she did it and it was like to see people panicking and niggas almost like
Starting point is 01:38:57 beat me up the CEO of that level as well yeah it's crazy yeah it's crazy so what's the funnest session you ever had? The best studio session.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Like, that one time was just perfect. You walked in, the beat, the sample was on point, everything. Me and Nelly, Grills. Grills. I can't hear you. I can't hear you. Come on, come on, come over here. Come over here. Sing it, sing it, sing it, sing it, nigga.
Starting point is 01:39:34 We can't hear you, Paul Wall. We can't hear you. Paul Wall, we can't hear you. Come over here. What is he saying? Rob, the jewelry store teller make me a grill. Hey, hey, hey. What you he saying? Rob, the jewelry store teller, make me a grill. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Put you in the... The whole top five and the minor girls go... That was almost good. That was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, basically, this session was... me and Nelly had an idea. And he was going to take the LL Cool J candy shit.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Candy? Yeah. Turn it on in a bottle. Man, that's different than that. That's different than that. He took the flow from candy, right? That was the flow he wanted to put on his beat. That was his idea or your idea?
Starting point is 01:40:26 No, that was his idea. He wanted to take, you know, because Nelly was buff. So he's kind of like a St. Louis version of LL Cool J. You know what I mean? HGH, let's do it. HGH. I went too far? You got it, man.
Starting point is 01:40:41 This is hard. This is hard. So he came up with the, you know, let me see your grill. And then we was like, well, brother. This is hard. So he came up with the, you know, Let Me See Your Grill. And then we was like, well shit, if we do a song about grills, we gotta get Paul Wall, cause Paul Wall made that grill. He make the grills. So we like, yo, we gotta get Paul Wall
Starting point is 01:40:56 on the song. Now I don't know why this song had to happen this night. Like you can make a record like a week, but we, just This guy Nelly Wanted this song to happen Right as soon as we started Making the idea
Starting point is 01:41:09 So we made the idea And then we went to the 112 World 112 Where the players dwell Yeah yeah We went to 112 And we got drunk
Starting point is 01:41:21 I'm talking about Completely like Drunk as a skunk It's where the players dwell. Yeah, we got fucked up. So we was fucked up. But in the midst of that, on the way to the club, Nelly was like, yo, I'm going to call Paul Wall and tell him I'm going to send him a flight. He's going to come to the studio while we're at the club.
Starting point is 01:41:38 This actually happened. Paul Wall got on a plane, came to the studio. Got to the studio and he heard the song. We was at the club partying. Nelly's thinking like, yeah, when I get through, we're going to get came to the studio. Got to the studio and he heard the song. We was at the club partying. Nelly's thinking like, yeah, when I get through, we're going to get back to the studio. Paul Wall part is going to be done. So we leave 112. We get back to the studio.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Paul Wall is there. He got his part. And the studio is popping, right? Like I said before, I don't really have a whole bunch of people in my session. But this was like Nelly's session. It's weed. It's all kind of shit going on. you felt bad anyway so so and this the first night I So, Paul Wall got up. He pulling up, right? And I'm like, man, let me try that shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:29 So, he's like, JD, you don't want to get on this leg. I'm like, man, listen. What movie is that? What movie is that? Walk Hard. Huh? Walk Hard. You don't want to.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Walk Hard. Go ahead, JD, that's all right. I'm sorry, I'll cut you off. So, he tell you, like, you don't want to try this. I'm like, man, let me get on this. I want to see what it is. Uh-huh. So he got this, like, Tahitian Treaty.
Starting point is 01:42:50 That's what they drink. Tahitian Treaty? That shit bomb. Yeah, what is that? Tahitian Treat. Tahitian Treat. That shit bomb. They pour the shit with this Tahitian Treaty, some shit.
Starting point is 01:42:59 I'm like, okay. So I'm thinking, this shit look like some Kool-Aid. I got on that shit, and I'm like, man, this shit ain't nothing. I'm drinking. Boom, boom. I'm turning up. Boom. Give me some more.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Boom. I'm like, this ain't nothing. How many cups you had? I don't know. I was going in. It's like Tiger Bone right now. I was really mad because I'm like, wait a minute. Y'all niggas said this shit was something.
Starting point is 01:43:26 I'm thinking I'm about to start talking slow and all that kind of shit. I don't know what's going on. But none of that shit happened to me. So I'm like, oh, I'm good. But I was not good. I was on a whole nother level. I was dancing shirt off. I was going wild in the studio.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Like, oh, shit. Back and down his nipples. Niggas just tripping. Like, that is like, yo, J.D., you wild. dancing shirt off all that stuff on Wild in the studio like shit I can tell his nipples like niggas just tripping like that is like your J.D.U. Wild right
Starting point is 01:43:50 and I had I had a flight I had a flight at 6 a.m. that morning not happening but I was up all night nailing them
Starting point is 01:43:58 and I was drinking lean they was smoking weed so I probably was getting a contact and all that kind of shit but I was gone it was the music was right.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Paul Wall verse was fresh. We was talking about grills. I was like, oh, this shit going to be a hit. I knew that song was going to be a hit. I got on that plane. Man, I threw up in the first class. The plane was on the hit. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I never threw up on a plane before. I ain't going to lie. I want a picture throwing up in first class right now. Oh man, I never threw up on a plane before. I ain't gonna lie. I want a picture of throwing up in first class. I want a picture of your maneuvers. Okay, which way did you move? Wait, you had a window seat or aisle seat? Yeah, I had a window.
Starting point is 01:44:36 So I had to let the lady, I had to let the person know that was sitting with me like, yo, I don't feel right. This ain't gonna be good. They got aie bag. They got the little bag. They got the little bag. The little thing where you supposed to do it in. And I'm like, this ain't, I ain't, I got,
Starting point is 01:44:53 I feel like it's gonna be way too much for this. This ain't no avenue. I ended up throwing up on the lady on the plane. Oh! Yeah, I was fucked up, yeah. Oh! That was my experience with lean. I'm not fucking with that ever again, by the way.
Starting point is 01:45:09 That shit had me twisted. But I tell you, that shit had me twisted. You do it in first class? No, I never do it while I'm mad. You're mad when you're in first class? He got you. He went along. Because you know what I hate?
Starting point is 01:45:24 Answering the questions in first class. They're like, so what do you do? I'd be so tempted to be like, I sell crack. You should do that one day. I do. I do. I do it all the time. It depends on what happens.
Starting point is 01:45:39 You know, one time a dude said to me, I said, hey, my man, you know, everybody's recognizing you. I said, what do you do? I was like, you see that shit on the back of the iPhone? It's me. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know what. I told the nigga I didn't miss the camera. Because I didn't want to see him on the iPhone.
Starting point is 01:46:02 That's about my challenge. That's about my challenge. I wanted to be smart. I don't want to say I'm a rapper sometimes it's embarrassing to me I know what you mean I say actor in the right situation I don't want to say Why is it embarrassing? Because it's typical black people answers. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:46:27 See, you must have been flying the privates and all that all the time. I mean, with the regular rich white folks that just sit there and be like, so what do you do, boy? I'm like, homie, I sell crack. I think you should go with that answer all the time. No, I've been going on and on. I've been going on and on. I've been going on said crack. I think you should go with that answer all the time. I've been going on and on. Sometimes they score the FBA and the niggas come on the plane and be like oh that's NL. This nigga's a retard. I'm like yeah that's what I told the niggas. I don't want to say rapper.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I don't want to say media. And the't want to say media and the thing about it Is I get away with anything I say as long as somebody don't walk through there I'm walking through customs and some like that when I'm over see this and they say what are you doing? I'm a straight up. No say that, when I'm overseeing this shit, they say, what are you doing? I'm an actor. Straight up. They say, rapper, they want to pull you over, go through your shit, you're doing it bad. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Rapper, weed, what else? He probably, man, pulled him over. Yo, at one point, I'm going to be honest. I've been down. My first album was in 97. So from 97 to like, what was it? 20? For solo albums.
Starting point is 01:47:43 No, no, no. My first solo album was in 1998. Oh, then released. Okay, go ahead. So first release was Capone in Noriega in 97. So I remember there was one point you would say, I'm a rapper, and the police would be like, yo, get this nigga an escort.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Then you say you're a rapper. And they'd be like, what? They pull out more guys. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. Yo. Then you say you're a rapper. What? They pull out more guys. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. Yo, I seen the era shift. So, like, when I sit down and the person asks me what I do, I just be cautious.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I'm like, I don't know if he's a Trump supporter. I don't know where this is going. I had that one time, but I had to fix that. Okay, tell me about it. I fixed it. You know the magazine that's on the airplane? The shit you shot from? Yeah, they get me all the time. I got to stop fucking with the people.
Starting point is 01:48:37 I like that shit. I got to cover that magazine. I got to cover that magazine. The magazine? You was on the cover of it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. The Delta shit.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Oh, yeah, that's Atlanta shit. That's Atlanta shit. So I was walking to the plane, and I had the cover of this shit, and niggas knew what the fuck I was doing then at that point. It was like, I ain't had that speculation no more. I don't know what you were talking about with the speculation, but I was on the cover of every seat. So everybody knew who the fuck you was, and you sat there. That was a good moment. That's a good moment. Yeah, yeah there that was a good moment that's a good moment that's a good moment jd let me tell you something in case you don't know man we've seen
Starting point is 01:49:11 what you did we seen you sit here and take an era of music and take an artist like a bow wow like a the brat like a crisscross like a jagged edge like an escape and we seem to tell them how to make hit music and that was the beautiful part of it a lot of people compare you and puff together like you're the puff of the south or whatever but it is it is you're kind of like other, but you did your own market music. You set it off. You did what you had to do. And we want to salute that.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Thank you. Thank you. You understand? We want to sit back. I'm going to clap it up for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And don't you ever do an interview with any podcast. Don't say your top three.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Because to me, this is a top three producer. This is to me. It's Puff, Dre, and Jermaine. That's a top three to me. Then after that,
Starting point is 01:50:19 Generation becomes Pharrell, Timberlands, The Swiss Beats. This is for me. No, no, no. No, Primo comes before that. P-Rock, Primo. Because that's a little bit before Dre in them.
Starting point is 01:50:37 But that, and you know what? Fuck hip-hop. We don't have to. Like, sometimes, sometimes, when I say that, I say, fuck hip-hop. I don't know. You say that I say fuck it Fuck that that category because when a person
Starting point is 01:51:01 I want to make a point. I want to make a point. Oh fuck. Yeah, this is the core veggie delight. We got more time Veggies like Christmas in the building We didn't drink that whole bottle. But we got another one. Okay. Go ahead. What I'm saying is, see when you say, when you say, when you say or you give a person the title GOAT, which GOAT means greatest of all time. There should be everyone. There's a lot of people that should be the greatest of all times.
Starting point is 01:51:34 There can't just be one. In boxing, you say the greatest of all times. Mike Tyson might be the greatest of all times from the 90s era. Muhammad Ali might be the greatest of all times from the 90s era. Muhammad Ali might be the greatest of all times from the 80s era. Pacquiao might be the greatest of all times from the 2000 and such and such era. Mayweather's the greatest of all times because that's who the fuck was my favorite boxer of all time. Right? So why in hip-hop we can't have multiple greatest of all time
Starting point is 01:52:05 I mean you actually can but it's like we do we do and I'm I'm gonna change that single-handedly and there's a lot of people that's the greatest of all times of their era And I want to salute that it's just like Big Daddy Kane come on Haitian people you gotta help us They finally happy. They said, hey. Travis T didn't come to us. He went to another place. Another place.
Starting point is 01:52:35 But listen, what I'm saying is we have to keep. That's the thing I respect about you. I never really heard you go at somebody else. Like, did you ever do a diss record? You did? Let's get into this. Yeah, I dissed Dr. Dre. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Yeah, he had got at me. Him and them, they had did, like, a little song, something about me. What little song was that? I don't know what you're saying. Some song where they was dissing me. I don't know. But, you know, like, it's the sensitive hip-hop niggas that, like, I say some real shit, and niggas get sensitive and want to be defensive.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Right? Because what I had said was that if you put Dr. Dre in a room and you put me in a room, who going to come out with a song first? They ain't like that. But the truth of the matter is I'm going to come out with a song first? They ain't like that. But the truth of the matter is I'm going to come out with a song before he does. I don't need no niggas to write nothing for me.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Right. I make the beats and I'm going to write the lyrics and I'm going to do the whole song. I'm going to come out with the song first. All right. Like, that was my...
Starting point is 01:53:38 If you want to challenge me, anybody want to do that now. That wasn't a diss. That wasn't even a diss. That's a true statement that I made. That's a true statement. That's a true statement that I made. That's a true statement and like at that particular point.
Starting point is 01:53:47 And he's a super perfectionist anyway. That's why. They didn't like that statement. You know what I mean? They thought I was trying to shine on them. I wasn't really trying to shine
Starting point is 01:53:55 on them. I'm just like, I have to let people know there's a difference between how I make records and other people make records. Like even when people say about me and Puff,
Starting point is 01:54:04 me and Puff do have a very similar style as far as marketing our artists and being labels that move in the same type of motion. But when it comes to making records, Puff don't make records like me. Nobody don't make records like you. I mean, it's people that make records like me, but I'm just saying it's a different situation.
Starting point is 01:54:24 And even like I'm saying that about Puff, I'm not dissing Puff. I'm saying like, I make records differently. I can write a whole song. At Criss Cross, that eight million, I wrote the entire album. You wrote all their lyrics? Every line. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Let's make some noise for that. Yeah! Let's make some noise for that $8 million, god damn it. Listen, I don't like to count nobody's money, but I'm just thinking about it. I'm like, damn, $8 million in the 90s. Is this the 80s or 90s? No, 90s, 90s.
Starting point is 01:54:58 92. See, you got to realize, you know, like $1,000 in the 80s meant different than $1,000. Yeah, inflation. This is just something. I know. This felt like drug bill money. Yes. This is like pushing, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Yeah, I mean, hip hop, that's what we should celebrate. Yeah. We should celebrate that. Listen, man, there's a lot of brothers out there doing the wrong thing, doing a thing to feed their family, and we can't judge that. That's not what we're here to do. But Leo Cohn said this on the podcast, and he came and he said, this is the perfect time to get into the music business.
Starting point is 01:55:43 And the reason why he's saying that now is because remember back then, we had to press the CD up. We had to do the artwork. We had to do the photo shoot. Like right now, dead serious, any kid could go in the back of his room,
Starting point is 01:56:00 pick up a fucking Fruity Loops. Anything. There's a ton of apps. On the iPad and then just and make a whole career. Like back then, like you had to be ill to get out
Starting point is 01:56:13 in the 80s. You said your favorite era was the 80s. You had to be ill. Just to get in the studio was difficult. Just, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:20 They probably wouldn't even take your account. And then back then they had the 8-inch rails. That's like carrying a dwarf. He was cutting tape. He was cutting tape to edit the music. He was like this.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Like, I got a human here. Can you cut this tape for me? And then you remember back then? I'm sorry. I'm showing my age a little bit. I'm 40 years old. I'm just throwing it out there. But you couldn't punch in.
Starting point is 01:56:40 You don't remember that era where you had to do your whole verse? Well, if you punched in, it was omission. No, I wasn't part of that era. No. I was part of the punching. You could punch in you don't remember that era where you had to do your whole verse well if you punch in it was a mission no i was part of the punch in you you could punch in but if you punch in it wasn't it yo and now six unique studios it was rare they had no punch in nah you had they had to cut the tape yeah yeah unique studios it's rare, but you across the street from MTV It goes through you like help your fucking and you gotta you gotta yeah, so yo, that's why I do you notice Like how has my internet keep it real? My minimum is seven songs a night like when I like when I'm focused I go to the studio I'll do seven songs like this for hours
Starting point is 01:57:23 My young boys be sitting there still right? I'm like I wrote my whole shit before I came because that shit was crazy like coming from the way out from paying $2,500 a session was serious like nobody down there or nothing about that even though they just make the records on a bedroom only laptop same in that bread like me I was trying to get They don't know nothing about that either. They just making records in their bedrooms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In their bedroom, on their laptops. They ain't paying that bread. Like me, I was trying to get out the hood. So I, like, I'm not, like, I can't live the way, like, I'm still to this day. If I book a studio, if I pay for somebody else's shit, like, I have the song written.
Starting point is 01:58:01 I have five songs written. That's how you should have it. You should be going to the studio ready. Don't play in the studio. It's not a spot to play around. It's not a spot to play around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you still love the studio after all these years?
Starting point is 01:58:14 Yeah. Keep it real. You ain't lose a little bit of love for music at some point? No. Come on, tell us that story, J.D. You got pissed off one day. Why? Come on, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:22 I don't know. You just said you never said no. No, because I got goals. I got these goals? I don't know. I don't know. You just said, you never said no. No, because I got goals. Like, I got these goals that I ain't never really achieved yet. So I still, like, you know. Come on, J. I'm still out here. I think you achieved everything.
Starting point is 01:58:34 What does it take for you to, yeah, like, what are the goals that you still haven't achieved? Huh? What goals have you not achieved yet? I mean, like, so when I first started working with Usher and we did My Way album and we got Confessions. This is my Confessions. This is my Confessions. Remix.
Starting point is 01:59:00 This is my Confessions. So listen, when we got the confessions. We had this conversation about like, we got to sell 10 million records. That's the type of talk you be having?
Starting point is 01:59:14 Yeah. I was very scared to talk to you. I understand that. Like, cause we know, like, it don't mean nothing
Starting point is 01:59:21 if you don't do nothing like that, right? As far as where I'm coming from, people look at me like, I done had success after success after success. Niggas still look at me the same way. So you got to do something just like backflips.
Starting point is 01:59:35 So we was at the studio like, we got to sell 10 million. This album got to go diamond. Damn. And it did. It did. It went diamond. And it did. It did. It went diamond. So it was the last... Because this was his confession.
Starting point is 01:59:51 It's the last black artist to sell 10 million records. Clap your fucking hands. But hold on. So you plotted this before it happened. All right, let's take it back to the deep shit. I got to relax. But that is still small compared to what we was actually trying to do.
Starting point is 02:00:16 We was looking at Quincy Jones. Quincy Jones is like the master to me. He's my idol, right? You are the hip-hop Quincy Jones, in case you didn't know that. You are the hip-hop Quincy Jones in case you didn't know that huh you are the hip-hop Quincy Jones oh thank you I appreciate that all right all right you clap my guy yeah you know that's a real compliment I mean but but at the same time saying that I can't really take that yet because he did way more than me he still got way more than me. He still got way more under his belt than I have achieved. And at 50, Quincy Jones made Thriller.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Wow. At 50 years old, that's when he created that album, which became the biggest selling album in the history of music. At 50. I just turned 40, so you're giving me hope. Yeah. Let's play Let's not keep going So with that being said
Starting point is 02:01:07 When you asked me What my Like I'm still looking at that Like yo okay I'm not I'm not 50 If he did it
Starting point is 02:01:17 I got an opportunity To do something bigger than that I gotta try it So I'm just That's my goal Is just to try to Some artists I don't know if it's gonna be Usher I don't know if it's gonna be But somebody We gonna do something That's my goal, is just to try to... Some artists, I don't know if it's going
Starting point is 02:01:25 to be Usher, I don't know if it's going to be, but somebody, we're going to do something that's going to be crazy. I liked it the way that Usher's going through this, what is that, controversy, and the first person you see Usher taking a picture of, what is you, you sit, hold on, I took my shots of Tiger Ball. No, we got new shots. New shots? Oh, I was about to say,
Starting point is 02:01:47 I felt like y'all violated me. I love the way you stood right there by your boy's side. You didn't give a fuck about no controversy,
Starting point is 02:01:55 none of that. Like, I actually enjoy that type of loyalty. Like, why isn't that that type of loyalty
Starting point is 02:02:03 respected more in the industry that we're in? Because there ain't really nobody that really do it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, why isn't that, that type of loyalty respected more in the industry that we're in? Because it ain't really nobody that really do it. Like, you know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 02:02:09 niggas act like they're your homies. They ain't really, you know, like, I, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:02:14 all of my artists, they came to me at a time when they ain't really had no other friends, period. You know what I'm saying? Usher was at my house
Starting point is 02:02:20 when we made my way. It was just him. He come to the studio by himself. No friends, no assistant, no nothing. So I actually became like a real true friend to him. Not like just a producer. I'm doing everything for him.
Starting point is 02:02:32 I'm like, you know what I mean? I'm hooking up with girls. I'm doing everything. So if that's our relationship, you know what I'm saying? I'm still, I got to be the person to tell him like, this is bullshit. You know this is bullshit Like Let's go through it
Starting point is 02:02:47 You know what I mean Other people Gonna talk to him differently I'm gonna talk to him The way that That's supposed to be talked to So I mean I don't know if it's a lot of that
Starting point is 02:02:55 In the world You know Niggas call niggas When they need something They don't really actually Be fucking with niggas When they ain't got You know
Starting point is 02:03:00 When they in a different place God damn God damn Make some noise So So So now ain't got you know when they in a different place so now we got y'all both here like um you know there's been moments where in hip-hop you guys didn't agree how how did you and and and you you came back and you said, yo, yo, no, that's my big homie. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:03:29 But, like, how did that just feel? Like, when, you know, a person you come into the game with, you're just not seeing eye to eye. And it's different opinions. But the thing is, every time you voice your opinion, it's in the public eye. Whether you think it is or not, whether you think it is or not. Like, how is that to go through that i'm gonna let him answer i'm gonna drink my shot okay my man talking about we're gonna be in the stretchers what is this for what is this for this is this four right episode four all right good good good, I mean, pretty much, you know, it was, um, we like the same person. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:08 Yeah, that shot made that nigga walk off. But, um, yeah, it's just, it's just, it's the same person. You know what I'm saying? He pretty much raised me, so it was kind of like, um, you know, all the gaming, all the lessons I learned from him, at one point I felt like, like shit, you know? I wanted to start calling some shots and putting my ideas into things and sometimes we wouldn't see how to hide
Starting point is 02:04:29 because he was the coach. He was the, you know, he was the teacher. And then, you know, I wanted to outshine the master. I thought,
Starting point is 02:04:35 you know, I wanted to play it my way. No, it's at some point, I'm standing up for you. Every artist at some point starts feeling they self and you know what they do?
Starting point is 02:04:47 They say, I did this shit. And they forget about everybody else. Because in order to make somebody great, it's three or four people behind you.
Starting point is 02:04:55 Absolutely. But me, I've done it. Everybody does it. Everybody just, what the fuck? I did this shit on my own. Yeah. So you had that moment.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Yeah, I had that moment. Did a third album. I had that moment. Did this thing, but it just didn't feel right. You know what I mean? I was in the studio with Tip. Me you had that moment. Yeah, I had that moment. Did a third album. I had that moment. But it just didn't feel right. You know what I mean? I was in the studio with Tip. Me and T.I. was working on my third album together and it just was different. You know what I'm saying? I came to the conclusion like if I can't
Starting point is 02:05:15 get down on the fourth album then I'm cool on music. I got movies. I can do that shit for life. So I don't really got to do it no more. And I remember just going to Malibu and pulling up on JD and just telling him, like, look, fuck all the business shit. The paperwork shit. Oh, yeah, we was in Malibu. Still looking for a house out there.
Starting point is 02:05:32 And then I just told him, like, man, we got to. All the business, just kick all that shit to the side. We got to get back. When I got back, platinum. Next album, platinum. And we rolling. We right back in pocket. Then I had to listen to them.
Starting point is 02:05:44 It was records I didn't want. I I'm like I don't want to that shit No, no, and I just buckle down and did them they would came number one hit So sometimes you just got it you do got a listen because he been doing this shit way longer than I have so Are you want some down on you now? No, no, you could take that with you to go play Okay You could take that with you That's some real I'm just checking it out. Okay, yeah, no. We're going to package that up for you. It's your birthday present. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You can take that with you. I'm just checking it out.
Starting point is 02:06:06 I'm checking it out. That's some real... I don't know what to call it. You don't know what to call it? Yeah, because it's kind of crazy. I mean, you might need it, but this is some premium shit, though. Y'all need to keep this here.
Starting point is 02:06:19 Nah, nigga. This is your birthday. That's yours. We good. We're going to have a bottle for you anytime you come back because I just want both of y'all to know Nah, nigga, this is your birthday. That's yours. We good. We're going to have a bottle for you anytime you come back. Okay. Because I just want both of y'all to know that this is a big platform.
Starting point is 02:06:32 What I mean by that, I'm not trying to tell, you know, but what it means to hip-hop is when they told us our numbers, who gives a fuck? But when they told us our demographics was 16 to 24 it fucked me up because we we didn't have like people on
Starting point is 02:06:49 on here under 30 like we praise legends we say you gotta be a hip hop legend and for this to be working this show it means that
Starting point is 02:06:59 even though people don't give a fuck of whatever's the hit right now people wanna learn what happened in hip-hop. Oh, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 02:07:07 but that's, you know, like that's what I said. That's what, that's why I picked that era because it's like the stories today in hip-hop,
Starting point is 02:07:16 they don't mean nothing like the stories that, you know what I'm saying? Like, the story, like, it's just shit that you actually live in life. You know what I mean saying? It's just shit that you actually live in life.
Starting point is 02:07:27 You know what I mean? These records was like, you know, how I made money in a thing was like I was driving down the street. And I heard Jay-Z. Please let me stop you right here. That's my very next question. This nigga's good. This nigga's the guru, my nigga. I just typed in
Starting point is 02:07:48 my code in my phone because I'm like, yo, my next question, and you went there. Let me shut the fuck up. This is your decision. I'm driving. First of all, I got like Atlanta was like
Starting point is 02:08:04 a city that nobody knew what was going on in Atlanta, right? But everybody was paying attention to New York and L.A. But it was like this article that came out one day, one morning, I read. And it was like Puff did an article and they was interviewing him. And it was like, yo, we went to interview Puff and he's driving around, you know, Manhattan in a Bentley. You know, and he had backwards. You know, they explain like the black man that really is supposed to be in the Bentley driving around. They was actually describing his life.
Starting point is 02:08:41 And it really frustrated me because it was like the morning that I was going to pick up Jay-Z from the airport and I was in a Bentley Continental TV driving around Atlanta with a do-rag on the hat the same shit but nobody would see it nobody wasn't seeing what I was doing so I was I was like I gotta make my records, my record's got to be big. My record's got to be bigger so niggas can see what's going on. And on the way to, by the way, this song, I had no idea what the song was going to be. I just wanted to make a record. You told about money and everything. Yeah, I just wanted to make a record with Jay-Z.
Starting point is 02:09:16 So I'm driving, and I'm listening to Can't Knock the Hustle. And he say, deep in the south, kicking up top game, screaming through the sun with money and everything. And I'm like, whoo. Deep in the south. That sounds like me. That sounds like he talking about me. Kicking up top game.
Starting point is 02:09:45 But what song? He said that on a different song? No, he says talking about me. Kicking it up top. But what song? He said that on a different song? No, he says that in Can't Knock the Hustle. No, Can't Knock the Hustle. No, Can't Knock the Hustle. He says this in Can't Knock the Hustle. So I'm listening to Can't Knock the Hustle, and I'm like, he said this. That's what our song going to be called. So I'm going to pick him up from the airport.
Starting point is 02:10:03 And when he got in the car. So literally when you were picking him up, you heard it and thought of it. Yeah, this is coming while I'm going to pick him up from the airport And when he got in the car So literally when you were picking him up You heard it and thought of it Yeah, this is coming while I'm going to the airport So I get to the airport, pick him up He get in my car And I tell him right then and there I'm like, yo, the song gonna be called Money Anything
Starting point is 02:10:18 And I heard I said, I want to use this part from Can't Knock the Hustle Deep in the South, kicking up top games Screaming through the sunroof, money anything. And he was like, okay, you got to beat. I had made a beat before. I had made the beat before I left. Uh-oh. That's not Tiger Bone, is it? That's Tiger Bone. I made the beat before I went to the airport. So I had the Steve Arrington week in my knees. I had the beat looped up
Starting point is 02:10:47 already. And I was like, we're going to rap over this shit. And the only reason I had picked that beat was because he did this freestyle on the Clue mixtape where he took the Drew Hill beat that I used for the sleeping in my bed shit. Sleeping in my bed. And he was like, he's like, y'all want to, he took my whole intro. Y'all want to dance. I'm going to make it. But he changed it.
Starting point is 02:11:16 And I was like, damn, this nigga Jay-Z be listening to me. That's how I felt. Because he was like the real super, super backpack rapper. People gave him all kind of respect. Right. I would never thought he was really checking out what I was doing. And I heard that he took my whole part. So I was like, oh, this nigga really be listening to me.
Starting point is 02:11:34 He took my shit. Right. So then I just put this whole thing together in like 20 minutes of how we was going to make this record. And when he got in the car, I said, yo, this is going to be the song. He was like, well, what the beat sound like? I said, when we get to my mom's house, we're going to listen to the beat. We got to my mother's house. I had played the beat for him. And the beat went around for like 10 bars, 16, maybe 24 bars.
Starting point is 02:11:55 And the nigga said, I got my rap. Let's go. And I was like, what? That's the biggest shit. How the fuck? Where is this the biggest shit? I'm like, yo, what the fuck? When did you write your rap?
Starting point is 02:12:04 They're like, I just wrote it. Let's go, let's get in the studio. I'm like, I gotta learn that trick. I gotta learn how to do that tomorrow. Like, and that was the last day I stopped writing on paper. I never written anything since then. And what year is this we talking about? 94.
Starting point is 02:12:24 94. Let's make some noise for JDB and G. written anything since then. And what year is this we're talking about? 94. Damn. Let's make some noise for JDB and G. Yeah! Yo, but you definitely, like, you had straight A's in class. Like, all you niggas
Starting point is 02:12:35 that really could do a good, you had straight A's. I never finished high school. You wasn't in resource room. I never finished high school. Did you, was there any special education? Huh? Special education. Special, Did you was it was present as case huh special education? I have seven students and three teachers She was real for me growing up. I'm stupider than you. No, you're stupider than me. No, I'm stupider. She was real for me growing up.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Really? Yeah, yeah. Listen, I got right around in my head, but that's not going to take. But listen. Okay, so listen. I'm going to tell you my crisscross theory of how I made crisscross into rappers. I got in the car one day, and these niggas was like infatuated with Ice Cube. At 11 and 12, it was infatuated with Ice Cube.
Starting point is 02:13:28 And they knew every Ice Cube word, lyrics, all word for word. And I'm riding in the car. I'm like, yo, these niggas saying this nigga rap. They can recite it. They reciting the raps like they know them. Right. So I'm like, shit, if I write them a song that they like. They'll recite it.
Starting point is 02:13:42 They'll recite it the same way. That's basically how they became rappers. It's not the code version that I prefer, but I'm going to go ahead and keep going. What you going to do? No, no, because you see how he popped the champagne? They got the big bottle right there. No, did you see how he popped the champagne? You're going to do it different.
Starting point is 02:14:04 No, that big bottle popped right now. Look, we can't even pay for this. This is Pop Daddy. By the way, I just want to throw this out there. We're in Wynwood. I don't know if you guys started. We started from downtown Miami with this podcast. Yeah, downtown.
Starting point is 02:14:20 Then we went to Little Haiti. We was living rough. Bow wow. You came to the spot. You came to rough power you was became to the spot Sexy wind would this is Puerto Rico. This is the Puerto Rico Yeah, this is the port used to be the party but but this is nice right now you know this equivalent to this like the village like in New York New York is like the village like yeah you see a bums or you can see you can see fucking Tommy Mottola right there giving somebody a flower I don't don't get twisted keep walking two blocks down you fucked. Yeah Two blocks down tomorrow we be right here
Starting point is 02:15:09 But but this is like this is like the happening hood mm-hmm in Miami talk about it What you wanna say is the happening hood in Miami talk about it. I'm not gonna lie our cooling system sucks Well, we're cooler. Yeah, we need we need a fridge right now at the end of the day we don't get a sub-zero Viking walking walking freezer maybe go champagne cuz y'all listen I knew you was gonna order some champagne you did I knew it like look out out well he ordered both of these joints that and that now when he ordered acid this nigga said, this nigga, he a smooth nigga. Because I don't even know
Starting point is 02:15:49 a rich motherfucker who ordered that. Like, you got to be rich to just say, I want to, what does that shit go on? Don Julio. 1942.
Starting point is 02:15:57 Don't say Don Julio. Damn, it can't be Don Julio? Just say Don Julio. He can't be Latino. He's just 1942. No, it's 1942. Like, when you order that, like, I only see, only in my life.
Starting point is 02:16:07 I'm 40 years old. Again, I'm going to keep throwing it out there. September 6th, turn 40. When a nigga order that, I'm like, damn, they like a different caliber. You know what the funny shit is? I know you probably don't even remember this. We in Reno, Nevada one day. I land.
Starting point is 02:16:24 I'm pissed because I had a six-hour layover somewhere in Reno, Nevada one day. I land. I'm pissed because I had a six hour layover somewhere. Reno, Nevada. It's the Impact Convention. You walk through. You say your playboy is Superthug. My Superthug had just came out. You say, I'm going to remix your shit. I'm like, word? I didn't even know what that meant.
Starting point is 02:16:38 I was so good. I was like, word? I didn't even know what a remix meant back then. I was like, what? I was like, all right. All right. Like, I didn't even know what a remix meant back then. So I was like, all right, cool. And I said, yo, what you drinking? And you said Dom Perignon. And I had the motherfucking president of Penalty say. I was like, I don't know what the fuck he said.
Starting point is 02:17:00 I didn't know what Dom Perignon was. It was the Reno to Impact convention. Do you remember that? Yeah, I don't remember talking to you, Larry. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. And you know what Don Berrian was. It was the Reno to Impact convention. Do you remember that? Yeah, I don't remember talking to you, Larry. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. And you know what you did? Listen, let me tell you something. You also remixed Superthug.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Yeah. Lil Levine just gave this nigga my vocals back then. Just give him this. Where's that remix? It never came out. But somebody has it. No, JD got it somewhere. He got it somewhere. You got the tapes? JD got it somewhere. He got it somewhere.
Starting point is 02:17:25 You got the tapes? He got it somewhere. No, he don't got the tapes. Because, you know, I never wanted to remix Super Thug. Neo got the tapes. But I had met you at the Impact Convention in Reno, Nevada. This is before. By the way, Super Thug didn't need no remix, by the way.
Starting point is 02:17:39 They didn't need no remix. And the white people. I'm being honest. I'm sorry. I love y'all. This ain't nothing, the back to y'all. The white people can say, you need a remix. This is that time. This is what I'm telling you. This is that time. Niggas say, if you don't have what you made before you remix, you're over.
Starting point is 02:18:00 Oh, oh, oh, okay. Look at Pop. Oh Let me show you Class class. Oh, we need a different cousin Luca You know couldn't it is with the France at once we learned some shit. And we brought it back to America. Look at that JD. Look at that JD.
Starting point is 02:18:32 What you gotta do like this? No, no, no, no, no, no. You supposed to do like this. That was your fault. Okay, I'm gonna let you start up. No, I'm gonna let you start up. Boom, boom. Look how we do it. Boom. And then we twist. There's no spill. Look at that. Look do it boom and then we twist there's no spell look at that look at that and then we do it this is look they let a hood to france at once
Starting point is 02:18:52 and let me the friends nah i can still go out there i'm saying you know my wife love france god damn it yo holy moly guacamole oh it's my's my time. I got to... Oh, my God. J.D., you really went in on the Tiger Balm. I respect it. Are we going to do a Don Julio? No, no, we done with that. You going to take that to go? Yeah, I'm going to take that. Take that to go.
Starting point is 02:19:13 That's my name. God damn. I'm going to see if this Tiger Balm shit works tonight. Yeah. And then... Yeah, that's all you my brother This is what we do I don't know
Starting point is 02:19:27 Listen I don't know if you know What we do at Drink Champs The thing is I sat down One of the greatest compliments In the world I ever got
Starting point is 02:19:38 Was one day Leo Combs He tells me to meet He said meet You know how Leo talks right He goes meet me at the polo lounge Right And Beverly Hills all calls he tells me to meet said meet you know how they all talks right meet me at the Polo Lounge right and Beverly Hills like I always drove by this shit some hood nigga like people don't write me the shit like that you know I've been
Starting point is 02:19:54 good with that for 20 years I've been like I understand but you ain't got you ain't gonna write me there I give it I give it cuz I come with niggas like yeah come on Dominican I come on these I got it. Because I come with niggas like y'all. Come on, Dominican. I come with niggas that got knives. They don't even get on planes. As soon as they run, they get a knife the next day. That's just who I am. But I want to give people jobs.
Starting point is 02:20:17 So, Lito comes and he says, he comes to me and he go like that. He said, you know why drink chance works? And I said, no. He said, you know why Drink Champs works? And I said, no. Because I don't. I'm just giving myself, giving my all, just respecting hip-hop and I'm congratulating the parts of hip-hop I love.
Starting point is 02:20:36 And Leo said, because you guys don't do gossip. You guys just celebrate hip-hop the way it is. And it's like as complicated as that was, it's very simple. If you're a person that's been down in hip-hop, you know how tough this is to survive more than a year? How many people you know was the hottest dude in the world last year? You've seen Tim. He might have gave you an elbow like what's up my guy how you doing?
Starting point is 02:21:11 Oh work? Hi y'all That's who you think you are? So to survive anywhere more than three four five, five, six, seven years. If you're talking about double digits, every man who participated in this game should be saluted. Look at football. Football, you got like, what, a year, two years?
Starting point is 02:21:40 Expansion. Basketball, maybe five. Hip-hop or music see they limit you you go to fuck out of here so when you have people that standing in it's been down there is this drink chance don't rely it's there's nothing organized but we're very organized watch how we throw this shit out. We got you. All right. But, you know, when you see people that got double digits in this world, there's no other way that we have to do is salute these people.
Starting point is 02:22:19 You got to sit back and say, and now, yo, you DJing again. Because I heard you started out as a DJ. So you be, oh, you're DJing? Yeah. Okay, let's describe that. That? Yeah. Let's describe that. That's great. Let's describe it. I mean, yeah, I started as a DJ. I mean, I started
Starting point is 02:22:33 making my beats based on DJing. That was like, that's what I wanted to be before I became a producer, a DJ. So I got these little realistic fake 1200s from Radio Shack. It's big on Radio Shack.
Starting point is 02:22:53 Huh? It's big on Radio Shack. Radio Shack. Radio Shack used to have it. Radio Shack had all the shit. The fake shit. All the fake shit came from Radio Shack. Yeah, I had a moment. I respect that. So I had the belt the fake shit came from Radio Shack. Yeah, I had a moment. I respect that.
Starting point is 02:23:06 So I had the belt drive turntables from Radio Shack. Which sucked, but they did the job. Did the job. But I told my mother and my father I wanted turntables. That's what they bought me. They got the Radio Shack shit. And from there, I became a DJ. I just started making mixtapes and doing whatever I had to do just before I ever made records.
Starting point is 02:23:26 So I've been DJing like since I was 14. Now when you go to a new crowd these people are you DJing this might be a I'm gonna go out there and say it
Starting point is 02:23:42 it might be a white guy who don't know who you are and they come up to you and say play some fucking Kelly Kelly price MTV Award not Cardi B no Katie Perry Katie Perry he said Kelly that's a I'm from New York City. What's her name, man? Katy Perry. Katy Perry. I said Kelly. Yeah, you said Kelly. And they're like, yo, man, that's a Katy Perry. Like, what are you doing at that moment?
Starting point is 02:24:10 First of all, I don't do requests. Yeah, yeah. No real DJ does requests. That's not. That's not. We ain't no motherfucking jukebox. Let's have this DJ moment right now. I'm going to spend a bad time.
Starting point is 02:24:18 I got a little request. No request. We do what we do, and that's it. I'm not doing no requests. I don't do requests. And I don't, you know, I mean, for the most part, I don't really be playing all them type of records. Like, I play what I listen to. But, when I hear you turned up, this guy might have just ordered 17 bottles of wine.
Starting point is 02:24:35 I don't care what's his problem. That's his problem. That's his problem. This is the DJ part. Me and Bowler. So when a DJ do a set, it's like a song for you guys. Let me say this. I'm going to say this about as far as me DJing. I'm not like... I DJ like a mixtape.
Starting point is 02:24:52 Right. So once I start DJing as far as tempo and... Vibe. Just tempo and vibe. I don't like people to come tell me, yo, somebody just bought 25 bottles. We need to change it and play the champions here.
Starting point is 02:25:07 Like, in the midst of my mix? Like, you, what? I only played with Jay-Z one time. That shit is whack, yo. That shit is whack. By the way, by the way, they don't understand how whack that is. That's so whack because you,
Starting point is 02:25:21 you are destroying the momentum of the club. Break that down. Break that down. Break that down. I'm just saying. I like that shit. I mean, think about it for yourself. If someone were to go on stage when you're doing a show and stop you and say, nah, I want you to play this record.
Starting point is 02:25:37 Man, motherfucker, I got my set. I'm doing what I do. I'm just saying, to me, that's whack because the club is already fucked up from Instagram and People trying to just like take pictures and not pay attention to party and in the first place So once you get the club everybody dancing and doing they got to do and people having a good time and then a motherfucker Club owner want to say yo We want to... Oh, this nigga's starting on us. Yeah, but you sprayed it in my drink, man. I don't want to drink that shit.
Starting point is 02:26:05 It's good for you. I don't want to drink. It's a gold challenge. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Listen, say that. I'm saying, so come in there, you say that, yo, you want to change the momentum of the club.
Starting point is 02:26:16 I'm looking at the people. Like, I'm not... Like, I watch so many DJs DJ. These house DJs and these EDM DJs, they don't even pay no attention to the crowd. They just be playing music. They don't give a fuck. Wow.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Not like that. I'm looking at the crowd like, damn, I just played this record and ain't nobody really moving. I got to get to another song really fast and find it. And the energy dictates how you're going to move. Yeah, I don't like you coming in the club telling me. If that person buying drinks,
Starting point is 02:26:47 keep buying drinks, y'all. Light it up. Do what y'all doing. I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. You gotta keep the party going. So you tell us the spirits like one time
Starting point is 02:26:55 where you just... Oh, they do it all the time. They try to do it all the time. And I just be like, fuck it. What is it, a corny record? Or is it just because you had
Starting point is 02:27:02 your set together? I mean, I just... Yeah, a lot of times I'm just like, I'm not doing it had your set together I mean I just yeah a lot of times I'm just like I'm not doing it you know I mean if they want it they let's just tell people don't go up to the motherfucking DJ yeah one is that shout somebody out and I'm like yeah yeah one is them right I've never met this nigga in my life right play my mind the nigg's my homie. He was my homie. Okay. Prince coming to the club. Nigga just float by you.
Starting point is 02:27:31 Just float. You're not going to play Prince right now. No, I'll be like, Prince, get on the microphone. Shout me out. What record you want me to play for you right now? You too. It's different. If Prince just float by you.
Starting point is 02:27:44 He got to get on. They don't say nothing. I don't care. It's different. Huh if Prince is float by he gotta get on they don't say nothing They'll still I don't care. It's still dangerous in my say I don't care I'll let Prince ride with me on this yeah, I got on the mic. I listen. Yeah, I'm saying foot foot I don't care who is it? DJ JD okay you come in the club. It's all about the vibe of the club like if I play a Prince record right now niggas like that. Switch the record. I'm telling you, listen, it hit everybody in a certain part of their bones that we didn't understand. And because we was fucked up for Mike already.
Starting point is 02:28:39 Like Mike already came in. But the Jackson 5 fucked us up. We were like, damn. Gangsta niggas was like oh shit This is real ABC Niggas learned their ABC's Through the Jackson 5 This is real shit
Starting point is 02:28:52 It tastes like this shit You like it? No I don't like it Alright cool You gotta relax Let me see what is that That's that It's a little bit
Starting point is 02:28:59 Which one is it? I don't know I've been buying all this shit It's definitely 1942 They get me every time I go to What is it? I don't know. I've been buying all this shit. It's definitely 1942. Yeah, they get me every time I go to, what is it? Bloomingdale's. They get me and my wife. It's the shit public.
Starting point is 02:29:10 They got us both lined up. Every time we walk through, they're like, yeah, this is the one. I don't know what it is, man. Huh? I don't know what it's called. Yeah, that's cool. That's Creed. That's that real nigga shit.
Starting point is 02:29:20 I be wanting a Creed black, but I ain't know, you know. You ain't know what's in the gold? Nah, I ain't know. Babe, it's Imperial. It's cool, right? Imperial? Yeah. All right, but I ain't, you know. You ain't on to the gold? No, I ain't on to the gold. Babe, it's Imperial. It's cool, right? Imperial? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:27 All right, cool. And then Aventus. Aventus, I'm done fucked up. I'm just spraying niggas. Anyway, I was in New York City the other day spraying dogs. Those come to me. It's too relaxed. Hit Aventus.
Starting point is 02:29:39 I wasted that bottle. I'm in a line here, man. Yeah, it smells like that. Yo, listen. Let me just tell you something. JD and Bow Wow, both of y'all. In life, everybody needs a little bit of therapy.
Starting point is 02:29:55 Alright? You need a little time to get your problems off. Talk about whatever, whatever. In life, that's what I did. I said, I'm going to take my days off, and I'm going to praise hip-hop. I'm going to praise my legends in hip-hop,
Starting point is 02:30:13 praise people who contributed to hip-hop, and that's why Drink Champs is working, because this is our form of therapy, and we have not formed a show in like a month. Yeah. Y'allall first two. We had hurricanes and shit. We had hurricanes.
Starting point is 02:30:28 And it's our 100th episode. We had the 100th episode. We had the 100th episode. Your episode is just 100th episode. Here you go, son. Oh shit. Gets you the drink chance. Oh shit.
Starting point is 02:30:36 And we don't give nobody shit but drinks. We got some, we got some. There's no more liquor, God. We got your shirts. We got one more shot of Tiger Bones. Listen to this. We got some more. We got some more.
Starting point is 02:30:44 We got some more. We got some more. We got some more. We got some drinks. We got some, we got some. There's no more liquor, God. We got your shirts. We got one more shot of Tiger Bone. Oh, God damn it. I'm with JD. Let's take a hundred shots. Your head's turning up. Oh, he got the fresh bass, too. You gotta pour this one, though.
Starting point is 02:31:00 Yeah, yeah. This is my Tiger Bone shot. Right here. This is terrible. It's a terrible car Now JD least This this is the ultimate thing is he coming with us to Wynwood what's happened? What's happened? Let's do it We're already in let's go a good JD. Yeah, I got every day. You'll have a drink Listen, I know but why you why you could ever drink. Now listen. And yo, but why you pour it in those shit like that? No, because that's my nigga.
Starting point is 02:31:30 And by the way, you don't understand. We was in the bottle together like this. But he got the long one though. No, I don't. It's the same. No, no, no. He good. He good.
Starting point is 02:31:38 It's definitely not the same side, but it's the same side. It's definitely not the same side. Where yours at? Where yours at? He don't even got one. He's like three shots. You know he's drinking yours. He don't listen to me drinking mine. You know what I'm saying? We Okay Okay, what you want to wait?
Starting point is 02:32:06 Yeah, you got to take a shot. We can't do Dominican stuff right now. Nah. He's doing Pop Daddy shit. I respect that. Listen, Pop is my nigga. Oh, it's Bella. I can't fuck with that.
Starting point is 02:32:18 That shit's crazy. Yeah, and they don't sponsor us at all. So I won't force you. Everybody, everybody enjoy the tiger Oh, this is all right. Yeah, give everybody your home. Good. Jermaine Bm bow wow, I want y'all Bm, that's your baby Janet shit too much
Starting point is 02:32:44 Why does janet make you whisper no because that's myie, I think I want you to bring it back there Bob Bring it back to hit by you gonna come do drink. You know how Yo JD you gotta do it for hip hop You gotta do it for hip hop You gotta do it You gotta do it, okay what are we doing right now? Everybody at, yo listen Let me bring up the vegetarian delight My boy Chris Veggie delight, they always
Starting point is 02:33:17 That's my nigga right there You know JD? He served me with some little spicy Oh shit Shit got hurt Shit got hurt Oh So, you know, this is the vegan dress. That's what I told you. Yeah, OK. Damn, that's why I said you fucking them up. Yeah, let's go. Salute, salute. I got you. All right.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Salute. All right, look, Ba, are you going to get that deli on? I can salute you. You ain't bring no food. I need some food, though, by the way. Yeah, oh. The spot closed, though, ain't it? It's closed.
Starting point is 02:33:56 Nah, nigga, listen. Listen, nigga, we'll send it to you. I need some food. You got water? You still vegan. Holla. We'll hurt it. We'll hurt it. Oh, shit. Let's go. Let's go. Hold on, wait, wait, wait. Let's seearta? You still vegan. Holla. We heard it.
Starting point is 02:34:05 We heard it. Oh shit. Let's go. Let's go. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Let's see what Bowel's going to do with this. Handle that Bowel.
Starting point is 02:34:13 Bowel Challenge. Bowel Challenge. All right. I don't see much. Nah, nah, nah. I don't see much happening there. Turn that shit up. It's Bowel Challenge.
Starting point is 02:34:21 One more time. And the shuttle tiger. Whee! Yo, come on Mr. Miyagi and Daniel-san. Come on. Let's do it. Turn that shit up. It's Bowel Challenge. One more time. And the shuttle tiger. Yo, come on, Mr. Miyagi and Daniel, son. Let's do it. You on your own show right now. Yo, yo.
Starting point is 02:34:29 Yo, yo, yo. I got to sit down. Yo, yo. Yo, come on. This is fire right here. All right. This is it. All right.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Bow. Bow. Bow. Take it down. Take it down. Take it down. Take it down. Take it down. Take it down. Take it it. Alright, alright. Bow, bow.
Starting point is 02:34:45 Yeah! Take it down. Woo! Shit! It was good. Ah! What do you think about Tiger Bone? Good God.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Oh, shit. When you drink... Ha! I said shit! Oh, shit. When you drink Tiger Bone, your soul... There are 36 chambers in this motherfucker, yo. Somebody's daughter's in trouble tonight.
Starting point is 02:35:08 No! Listen, when you drink Tiger Bone, your soul take a nap. Your soul be like, I'ma chill out for a second. Your soul says relax. Your soul be like, I'ma walk over there. I'm keeping it real, JD. That's fine, man. That's fine, right? That's fine
Starting point is 02:35:37 Oh, I just did six if you did six we did six you good Say one more right inside you should do one more seven seven is the right number more I don't even want to go set. I don't want to drink it, but we got it. Niggas ain't going out. JD ain't playing. We told you we celebrated his life. He started out, and he's still here having having fun smiling. That's a beautiful thing I ain't no front nigga disrespecting me. Hey, they gave me wait
Starting point is 02:36:31 Congratulations to the yeti son, no, no, that's heavy. Oh, hell no! No, no, no, don't mix it with that. You're not doing that. Look, look, fuck it, Jamie. It's your birthday. Just take it down. You turned 19 yesterday.
Starting point is 02:36:52 Take it down, bro. Take it down. All right, hold on. You really want this? Give it away, give it away. A little bit. At least a little bit. You know what's about to happen.
Starting point is 02:37:00 We gotta deal with this nigga all night. All right, let's go. I'm gonna take the whole thing. You gonna take the whole thing? I'm gonna take the whole thing. Oh, God. For you. For you. Little bit little bit. You know what I gotta do with this thing all night They don't they oh You know what my legend this is I want the record here, okay? I want niggas niggas gotta break my record so the VM you told me seven right? That's what it is. Oh we at seven? Seven, seven. God, this is terrible. Seven. Woo!
Starting point is 02:37:25 We got no physical strength. Man. One more. Yeah! Yeah! We're running! 100! It's gonna be a race.
Starting point is 02:37:34 We're running. That's what we're doing. We're going up. We going up? Fuck, that's insane. We're going up. Are you going up? That's what we're doing.
Starting point is 02:37:41 We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. We're going up. Yo. Yo, don't spray that shit. Come on, man. Come on, dude. What the fuck, man?
Starting point is 02:37:54 You got to clean the aura. Come on, man. All right, seven. Jesse, let's make sure everybody know. I hold the record. All right, seven. Just saying. Let's make sure everybody know. I hold the record. All right. JD, let me just explain to you something. You see my two guys right there, those are both the twins.
Starting point is 02:38:14 That's my twin right there. He had just had a recent accident. And, you know. Don't crash into me, bro. He crashed. And, you know know now he's disabled it's okay but we gonna
Starting point is 02:38:26 ride with him every step of the way and then the other twin right there he's on mass steroids he's my friend pause but let me say something I ain't gonna
Starting point is 02:38:35 hey man this is big this is big this is the 100th episode yo I could've died on episode 48 my nigga chill chill chill
Starting point is 02:38:44 nah I ain't gonna lie, it's a fact, though, Danny Garcia's episode was the last episode before my accident, though, and it's crazy how he recognizes that, cause that nigga shows me mad love on Instagram, and shout out to all the fans in Pakistan and Thailand, my nigga, I'm talking about fucking everywhere, yo, all over the world, the Netherlands, we got people everywhere, we got legends, we got Bow Wow in here, my nigga. You sleep, y'all sleeping on Bow Wow, my nigga. That nigga's a legend.
Starting point is 02:39:09 Yes, he is. You already know. We were during the pre-legends. You mentioned them names. People know it. But we live and we taking shots. I just took my 100 shots of Tiger Boom, baby. Just get it.
Starting point is 02:39:17 That's it, man. I'm telling you, ass, nigga. Yeah! And here's the other twin So that is the other twin That I hang out with him And he wanted to drink Tiger Bone with me And what happened?
Starting point is 02:39:34 Come on Arnold Schwarzenegger I work out seven days a week Eat six, seven meals a day So I'm not on steroids Number two, four years ago Tiger Bone sent me to the hospital with seven shots. Seven shots of Tiger Bone sent me to the hospital. And the vegan, the lie, had to do something with that. We don't post on that.
Starting point is 02:39:59 We don't post on that. And I tried to commit suicide at the hospital because I went to the hospital. Because for some reason, tiger bone is some type of cream. I'm going to tell you what is your problem. You can't eat pork and feed it food on the same day. Yo, go on, Shay. You got to relax. That's what happened.
Starting point is 02:40:22 I'll take a shot today, though. What's up? Let's go, let's go then! I'll take it today! I'm saying he gonna have some. You gotta get yours, you gotta catch up. Yo, let's do another one. No, you do another one.
Starting point is 02:40:36 I ain't gonna do another one. I'm fucked up. I'm fucked up. What did you say? He said he fucked up. What did you say? He said he fucked up. Cheers! We should take a shot at Don Julio, bro. Nah, it's his birthday.
Starting point is 02:40:56 Listen, I was watching Blow last night. Where? I've never heard of this, JZ. Oh, by the way, if I wasn't making music, I'd be a drug dealer. Oh, fuck. Flat out. We going in? I think that's everybody here.
Starting point is 02:41:09 Huh? I think everybody here would be. I mean, but I would be a real smart drug dealer. Yeah, we can tell. We might be dumb drug dealers, but we'd be good. But yeah, I actually hate the movie Blow, because how they treat my nigga, but I fuck with it, because, you know, that's one of the dopest movies. And the nigga come back from Columbia, and the nigga got the cocaine on the table, and the dude telling him what the rate of the cocaine is.
Starting point is 02:41:36 He's like, usually if it's like 1.75 or— The purity. Yeah, the purity, right? And the shit go up to 185. And the nigga's like, yo, god damn, where the fuck did y'all get this? Can I do a line of this shit?
Starting point is 02:41:51 And the nigga hit the shit. And the nigga like, they talking and then he just come out of nowhere like, I can't feel my face. That's a Tiger Ball song right there? That's how I feel right now. Woo!
Starting point is 02:42:13 Ba-ba-ba! You like your boss song right now? That's how I feel right now. That's what Dream Chefs supposed to do. I'm touching my lips and shaking my face. Dream Chefs don't want you to be their face. My lips are dry as my fucking hole. Let me just say something. I want to thank you, brothers, because I could talk to you guys all night, but I know we just have the most fun that we could have.
Starting point is 02:42:33 So I'm going to end it on a strip of we loving y'all. Because we're going to keep going and keep going and keep going. And you know what? Thank you for coming here because um the basis of our story uh me and my partner dj here friend right there it's like why don't people respect people after they you know have success and continue to do something else like what happened why don't in hip-hop and every other genre of music rock and roll rock and roll jazz like you you get to a certain level and people respect you people say but in hip-hop they give you a milk date maybe like you got an
Starting point is 02:43:20 inspiration date motherfucker about a 24th of September. Better not have a white beard either. You should be out of here. Better not have a white beard. And then KRS-One, which is one of my favorite rappers, said, watch what you say because you're attractive. So I hope his message is correct. Because as a person gets older, as a person continues to put in work in hip-hop,
Starting point is 02:43:52 and we continue to salute them, I want KRS-One's message to be lived out. 100%. Watch what you say because you're attractive. So, at one point I heard people say, you know, because Jay said, you know, what did he say? He said,
Starting point is 02:44:15 you guys on Instagram putting money to your ear. That ain't money over here. And I understood what he meant. He wasn was dissing the young generation. He was saying, go get a black car,
Starting point is 02:44:30 young homie. Go get some credit. Go get something. Go buy a vehicle. Go, you know, so you can actually enjoy your work. But people took that as it was disrespect because of his elderness.
Starting point is 02:44:51 So before that album came out, what we wanted to do, we wanted to say, the older you became in hip-hop, the more you just kept reigning supreme in hip-hop. We want to salute that. We want to salute that. We want to respect that. We want to sit back and, what's that shit called? The scope. What's that? Like when an ant comes and you put the scope.
Starting point is 02:45:20 Oh, magnifying glass. The magnifying glass of our CEOs I thought you were pouring liquor on that oh yeah that too the magnifying glass of our CEOs the people that come out here and help keep pushing hip hop
Starting point is 02:45:38 forward because the thing about it hip hop should be it's own religion hip hop should be it's own gospel it should be it's religion hip-hop should be his own gospel it's be his own race like people should some at some point in the near future people should register you know black white you know and then hip-hop hip-hop yeah word up bring back the OG is worried up You gotta relax. You should. You should. You should. You were talking about that conscious hip-hop. I think something about this. Nah. But you should.
Starting point is 02:46:07 No. But you're right. You're right. But this is a different moment in life what I'm talking about. Right. Like, at the end of the day, when people should register to vote,
Starting point is 02:46:16 we should register hip-hop. Mm-hmm. That's why. Like, hip-hop. I'm on Wild N' Jaded. You can tell me, please. Nah, it's all common language, bro. Like, we should register hip-hop because that'm on Wild N' Jadon. You can tell me, please. Nah, it's all common language, bro. You should register hip-hop.
Starting point is 02:46:26 Because that's what we did with Borat. It wasn't a race thing. Everybody thinks it was a race thing. But we knew he was hip-hop. I think that was the first hip-hop president. When we walked through, we knew he knew whole lyrics. Niggas was like, nah, he knew whole shit. He knew Illmatic. Let's vote for that nigga. We knew he moved over lyrics because like he no ho shit He no ill Madden
Starting point is 02:46:48 Let's vote for that. Yeah They can see for for Jesse. Let's just keep it real. I was there. Oh my god, Jesse. I'm not sure You you voted for Jesse Jesse Jackson. Yeah. No. I don't think nobody voted for Jesse. I wasn't voting for him. Nobody voted for Jesse. Yo, Bow, where Bow going? All right, cool. He's voting for Jesse. Yeah, Bowtron's trying to take something down right now.
Starting point is 02:47:10 He's still single. Bowtron? He's still single out here. I respect that. I could always recognize a single nigga. You recognize him? I could always recognize a single nigga. All right, cool.
Starting point is 02:47:18 He should be drinking more Taco Bell now. He don't get anybody here. He don't understand it. He don't even know. But, I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that always recognize a single nigga. He should be drinking more Taco Bell now. He don't get anybody here. He don't understand it.
Starting point is 02:47:26 He don't even know. But. Sign language. Yo, your sign language game is ill. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. You know why I want to smoke a cigarette? But I'm going to smoke with some weed.
Starting point is 02:47:43 But what I'm trying to tell y'all, I'm like this smoke some weed. But what I'm trying to tell y'all, hip-hop started on the park. Respected Puerto Rico islands before the fucking United States coming. Absolutely. How disgusting was that?
Starting point is 02:48:00 We all came to Puerto Rico. Hip-hop came to Puerto Rico. Hip-hop came. Did you realize I'm sorry I got political on y'all This wasn't a part of the program Look Puerto Rico
Starting point is 02:48:11 Fuck that Don't you complain That's Puerto Rico music right there Go ahead But did you see hip hop Come to the aid of Puerto Rico Before our own president Right now Not before It's still Our president still has it Absolutely Did hip hop come to the aid of Puerto Rico before our own president? Oh yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:48:25 Right now, not before, it's still, our president still has it. Absolutely. Oh, he didn't lift a man? He did, but I'm saying it's still, what he's doing is not enough. And hip hop, the community is still coming to, private citizens are helping Puerto Rico right now. And then I seen in Atlanta one year, y'all had two feet of snow. Y'all, y'all, y'all. The whole city shuts down.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Yeah, y'all went crazy. Yeah. Yeah. This is not. Huh? Atlanta never had a crisis like that. No, no. But how do you feel as an American seeing that happen?
Starting point is 02:48:58 I mean, I think that's the beauty of hip-hop, though. I think it's like We shouldn't be surprised Cause that's what hip hop does anyway Hip hop has introduced people to Everybody to different Something Completely You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:49:13 Like You know I don't I don't even know if that Like When I was First started making music I don't think
Starting point is 02:49:20 It's no Puerto Rican girls in Atlanta You know what I mean? I don't think it was no Puerto Rican girls in Atlanta I don't know I'm sure there Rican girls In Atlanta You know what I mean I don't think it was No Puerto Rican girls In Atlanta I don't know I'm sure there was Well they wasn't
Starting point is 02:49:29 Not around in College Park They was No I'm just saying So it's like Hip hop introduced you To that type of woman Right
Starting point is 02:49:37 Hip hop introduced you To you know Going to the Dominican Republic Like we went to DR for What we went there for? It was like a music conference, like a big conference.
Starting point is 02:49:49 The Bauer, I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he better remember, he was wowing over there. Yeah, he is. Oh my God, Dominican babies. Yeah, too much liquor, man, too much liquor. Too soon, too soon. Let's give him a little story.
Starting point is 02:50:01 Oh, you're wowing right now. Give him a big story. Can I give you a little story about how I got here? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's all good. Let him know that time is the one we got on. Okay, I got to tell you.
Starting point is 02:50:20 I got to tell you because I'm drunk. I need some food. I played the fifth. We got you. We got you. He ain't work no more. All right, listen. I'm drunk And I need some food I played the fifth And we got you We got you He ain't work no more Alright listen I'm drunk though
Starting point is 02:50:29 Hold up Bow Wow and Dominican So Me and Bow Wow Go to DR And we out there For this Convention
Starting point is 02:50:40 It's a I don't know Who convention It's a... I don't know who convention. It's a DJ convention. And... These Dominican girls come back and say the hotel room. Sounds like a bad story. And they don't speak no English.
Starting point is 02:50:57 Right? And we don't speak Spanish. Exactly. So it's just like a whole bunch of just fucked up, like, what's going on. But, you know, in every language, get naked is the same talk. Get naked. Sexy talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:15 So this guy, Bow Wow, I go back in there. I go in the room. Bow Wow's in there, fucking this Dominican girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not getting around that one. And he's talking to her crazy in English. In Spanish, no, he learned Spanish quick. He learned Spanish quick.
Starting point is 02:51:38 He's saying the craziest shit in the world to this girl. And she don't understand nothing he's saying. So it's like, it's not even, the world to this girl and she don't understand nothing he's saying the craziest shit in the world that he could possibly say to her he's saying this sir uh-huh then fuck me dude yo that was that fuck me that fuck me
Starting point is 02:52:09 yo I swear to you listen by the way I walked in while this was happening and I couldn't believe it that's why I'm telling y'all because because I'm like, this nigga's talking to her. She don't know nothing he's saying. He's saying it to her like, you, you got it. Come on. She's like, what the fuck are you, what are you talking about? Yo, this nigga was wild.
Starting point is 02:52:41 Okay, before we go to Bow Wow, we're going right to you, Bow. You better prevail your answer. Look, he's crying. Look, look, look. Wow, okay before we go to Bob go right to you What what made you know that that was is another door over there We in the same room I mean he pretty much said it I was winging cause you know it was fun I was like shit she don't know this is like practice for when I want to talk to an American girl like this Fuck it. We'll have some fun. It's my first time in India. We really took the jet Germany for some reason
Starting point is 02:53:43 Like Jenny got the plane we had the nice girls in there, and I was in Germany for some reason. So I was like, fuck it. I was like, JD got the plan. We had the nice girls in there. And I was just like, fuck it. I was just charged up. I had a good time. I had a good time. For sure, I had a good time. I ain't never seen no crazy shit like that in my life. What are you talking about, JD?
Starting point is 02:53:58 I don't understand. You're saying crazy shit. I'm saying the girl don't understand you. He's talking to her like she suck my dicks. So what did she do? Suck his leg? He's talking to you. So where were the instructions going if she didn't understand what you were saying, bro?
Starting point is 02:54:19 And you said suck my dick. What happened then? She said you're dumb? Alright, alright listen. Wait, wait, listen. By the way, listen, before I came over here, Bow Wow told me he's like, Jay-
Starting point is 02:54:36 Don't talk about my bilingual experience. Bow Wow called me and said, yo, Jay-D, Nori, he going with these stories. So I'm trying to give these niggas some stories, that's what you're talking about, right? Bow Wow, I didn't know. You going to give... Bow Wow gave you the Bow Wow challenge.
Starting point is 02:54:49 ...stories. I'm just giving y'all some exclusive shit, you know what I mean? But we're going to ask you... Let me tell you something, Bow Wow. We're going to ask you if it's true, because this nigga bowed the whole time. What did you... What did this nigga do to you? Oh, it's 100% true. I'm not lying. It's true because the thing about the whole time Oh, it's 100% of joy, I'm not lying over I'm telling you the action real shit
Starting point is 02:55:19 You know what by the way I get mad about my life right because my life is so real It's just so real it's I see so much shit That niggas ain't never seen So I I like these type of opportunities Where I can tell y'all shit And say shit Cause I be I've seen so much Since I was 12
Starting point is 02:55:35 That nobody ain't never seen You know what I mean Like so It's crazy that you have to keep All of this shit like In your body You gotta give it out. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:55:48 We need more. We can go two more hours. It's okay. Give it up. You got to give it out. I ain't going to lie. I've been holding my pee for since 9-14. I already used my dope.
Starting point is 02:55:56 I looked at the time. It was 11-58. I got to relax. We been here since 8 o'clock. No, no, no. No, listen. Let me tell you something, J.B. Damn, it's 11 o'clock? It's no. No, listen, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 02:56:05 Damn, it's 11 o'clock? It's midnight. Listen, listen, let me tell you something. Shit. No, you gotta relax. You gotta relax, dude. You gotta relax. You gotta relax.
Starting point is 02:56:17 You gotta sit down. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. This is what we do. Because CN Hip Hop, they give us an expiration date like That is the place. You're on the big time. You're TheraWise twins, you got it right. I'm gonna...
Starting point is 02:56:47 I'm not even speaking a mad way to all of you. Yo, listen. That's TheraWise twins and that's the cocaine hat. That's our engineer. He's got cocaine. That cocaine. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, when I did the rap radar shit yeah I think it was going so hard on me yes I want to fuck is you want to make a show now I'll call me like yo you gotta do Norris show man that nigga show this shit you gotta go do that nigga so you did the wrong show first I did it wrong
Starting point is 02:57:42 so very different so for okay I was gonna bring it up but you did the wrong show first. I did a wrong so he did my show for it. Okay I was gonna bring it up, but you did so I Don't they I'd like to on slot them niggas was enough you remember Reno, Nevada And you know what yeah'm talking about. And you know what? There were so many niggas that moved when the West Coast niggas came. And I remember JD standing there with me. Like, he stood there. I was there, but JD was right there. I remember he not moving.
Starting point is 02:58:19 So I said, damn, that's my nigga. Like, I know we never officially said that, but I appreciate it when all them East Coast niggas went upstairs. And that's how I met E-40. Because E-40 came to me and said, damn, A-boy from the East Coast went up. And I'm the only nigga that actually got a
Starting point is 02:58:38 fucking record dissing the West Coast. And I wasn't dissing them, but I was standing up for my coast, L.A., L. la la and I stood there and one of the only other motherfuckers that stood there was this thing and this is how I know this Don Perignon story is 100% true I said yo what you drinking I thought he was gonna say hand me straight and straight. That nigga said, Don Perignon. I was like, oh, shit. So I grabbed the president of the record label, Sunil Levine. This nigga said, one Don Perignon.
Starting point is 02:59:13 I'm not moving. I can't move. Give that nigga what he want. And I bought you a bottle. Do you remember that? No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bought you Don Perignon.
Starting point is 02:59:21 I don't even think you drink it. I think you was like, all right, cool. He was testing me out. He was like, all right, cool. You was testing me out. He was like, all right, cool. The nigga asked me, what am I doing? That's what's up. I might have drank that shit. I'm going to keep it real.
Starting point is 02:59:33 Like, but no, but that was some real shit. No, no, no, no. That was some real shit. Because at that time, it was either you full-fledged East Coast. Like, Atlanta was looked at as the East Coast. Word up. Keep it real. Like, we didn't have the division that these kids have now.
Starting point is 02:59:57 Like, you got to be from Memphis. Like, it was all, like, it was almost like the NBA. You know how I like the NBA? The NBA, they say said this is all East Coast They say Miami's East Coast Atlanta's East Coast. It was almost like that. Yeah, it was 100% keep it real Yeah, I'm gonna bug it up. No 100% East Coast was East Coast. I Mean that's what it and Atlanta is the East Coast though. The Miami's East Coast. It is what it is
Starting point is 03:00:22 Yeah, we're all these things gotta stick together. You gotta relax. Not really. Y'all wanna claim y'all's souls? Yeah, what's going on? Oh, Muslim. What's that steroid shit? What are you doing? That's one of the guys that take his steroids. You wanna move furniture? I don't give a fuck. He's still my man. He's still my man. Come on, twins here. That's the twins. Look at that. You see, we met the other twin. This is the other twin. He take his steroids. What, even if you work out?
Starting point is 03:00:48 Yeah, yeah. He take his steroids. He look good. What's wrong? Everybody take his steroids, man. Chill, bro. Come on, man. I know about the cream.
Starting point is 03:00:56 It's the cream. You put cream on? Nah, it's called. Creatine? Yeah. It's called maintenance. You got to maintain every muscle in your body every week, that's it. Alright?
Starting point is 03:01:08 If you maintain every body, every muscle in your body, every week, you'll be as good. That's not title board. You need a little HGH. Already I'm so sorry. Yo JD, let me tell you something, man. Yo, fuck you. If a person... Forkies? Yo, relax.
Starting point is 03:01:31 You know he take it. You know he... Yo, come here. Come here, twin. You know him and Mike is going to end. You see them niggas at L.A. Fitness? Them niggas is different. You see them at L.A LA Fitness? them niggas is different you see them in LA Fitness? they different I'll be sliding on my tomb holes my nigga
Starting point is 03:01:52 all you can do is eat ass now? keep it real you know this is an eat ass joke no no no go over there eat ass nah he gonna eat ass on your fucking butt I have no choice now but to become a professional ass eater. Oh, yeah. Eddie go back. So they come to my room.
Starting point is 03:02:15 So I'm a professional ass eater now. I have no choice. Yo, my goatee's getting bigger now, son. That shit getting thicker, my nigga. That's because, you know what I'm saying? I'm just waiting on the little beard to grow on. You know, hey, bro, look. Nigga, Bow Wow, too, son.
Starting point is 03:02:31 He's like 30. He still got the little joint. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? Bow Wow challenge, bro. Bow Wow challenge. Nigga, you say it. Bow Wow anyway.
Starting point is 03:02:40 You know who little Bow Wow is. You got to relax. You know what I'm saying? This is the way it work. You love me, you got to love my twin. You feel me work you love me you gotta love my twin you for me you love me you gotta look you gotta love both of us You gotta fuck her for me my nigga and he goes in bags and folks in for me I got fat You know since I'm like yo you gotta do what I can do for her
Starting point is 03:03:16 You know say we don't share them. Yeah, I was temporarily out of service for the moment Fuck dying the first We all have money right now Because let me say something, you know, we was in Little A&E before. You know where Little A&E is? I do. You died right there. But now we're in Wynwood. This is very good, right?
Starting point is 03:03:51 Wynwood. It used to be very bad, FYI. It used to be very bad. That's because you're like a Fisher Miami guy. Okay. You got to relax. Let's talk about
Starting point is 03:04:01 the millennials. All right. It's very good now. Now we're in the upgraded section. I see. And we're in like the upgrading section. I see. And we're still hooding it out, JD. So now, we gotta take one more shot.
Starting point is 03:04:12 Now I'm done. What we drinking? You can't be done. You want the 1942? You want the... Come on, one last shot. He's putting that shit to grave right now. He's putting that shit to grave.
Starting point is 03:04:20 One more shot. One more. One more shot and that's it. One more for the raw. No, you can take that to go. That's your put that shit on the ring. One more shot. One more shot and that's it. No, you can take that to go. I'll pack it.
Starting point is 03:04:32 One more shot for the road. Because, JD, I thought it was a great job. You did a great job, bro. You did that packet very good. Oh, there you go. Look, one, bro. You did that packet very good. Oh, there you go. Look, look, look. And that's for you and JD. I just want you to know.
Starting point is 03:04:52 We could have got like mad journalitorial, what is that shit called? I have no idea what you're starting with. Journalistic. We don't want to do that. Journalistic. We are both fans of you. You know what we do when we're about to film people? We just sit there
Starting point is 03:05:08 and just listen to their old music. We come here early and we just sit there and we just listen to their old music. Everything. We make a playlist. Facts. Spotify.
Starting point is 03:05:21 Tidal. Hi-ass. Because we give you the good playlist of how people should be represented. Yeah. And the thing about it is, I guess the reason why this show works is because they quote-unquote
Starting point is 03:05:36 call me a hip-hop legend. But guess what? Even if I'm a hip-hop legend, it will never take me away. And my brother, DJ EFN, Mixtape King, it would never take away from me not being a fan. Word up. Of what originally played out. And I've never been scared or afraid to be a fan of anybody.
Starting point is 03:05:59 I love being a fan. Why not? The thing in hip-hop, we stop praising being a fan. Yeah, people being afraid of being fans. Yo, yo, spray that Creed, god damn it. Hold on, hold on. Man, let's wait. Man, you took a shot of that.
Starting point is 03:06:14 It's 500 to spray. You gotta relax. You gotta put this shit in your face when the bitches kiss you. Alright, go find some bitches or something. There's no bitches over here. You're my nigga. But, you know, this is my nigga. You know, you know, twin good.
Starting point is 03:06:32 He can do whatever the fuck he want to do. All right, you going to pop a bottle? Pop the other shit. Hold on. Hot champagne kill people. You already know. So, what I want to continue to do, to continue to praise our legends JD
Starting point is 03:06:50 In case you don't claim it It's like sometimes People come to me and be like Yo You put the Neptunes on And I'm like Wow The Neptunes is going to be
Starting point is 03:07:00 Who the Neptunes Whoever Whether they gave me a record or not They were talented You didn't put them on though Yeah Facts You didn't put them on The Neptunes is going to be here. The Neptunes, whoever. Whether they gave me a record or not, they were talented. You did put them on, though. Yeah, facts. You did put them on. But that's my way of being, you know.
Starting point is 03:07:12 But you put them on. Thank you. Thank you. But I don't want you to ever forget what you did for the whole northern, east coast hemisphere you know we didn't know what was happening in atlanta we didn't have uh what's them hotels they had um y'all you had a hotel i forget
Starting point is 03:07:39 it was like no that's a swiss hotel came later. That was next to Lenox Mall. Yeah, you think I don't know them from up? The Swiss Hotel. Yeah, and it had Wolf Chris under there, too. And then it also had the Pawn Restaurant under there, too. I've been through different eras. But it was La Quinta. La Quinta.
Starting point is 03:08:00 La Quinta. La Quinta. La Quinta. La Quinta is what I've been saying, guys. My first visit to Atlanta, I was hurting. So I went to La Quinta. La Quinta. La Quinta. Like, you know, I was hurting. La Quinta is the right way to say it, guys. My first visit to Atlanta, I was hurting. So I went to La Quinta. It's like $40. And then I realized, I said, damn, these niggas move the same way.
Starting point is 03:08:16 They alligator the same way, but they got accents. And I said, us in New York, we're retarded. There was rules. You don't go to a strip us in New York we were taught there was rules You know you don't go to a strip club in New York That's what one You two if you go to a strip club you don't throw money Go to you don't take shits three I Did all that
Starting point is 03:08:42 My first week in Miami But In Atlanta When Players Club I'm going to tell you We're transitioning The whole shit When Players You remember when Players Club
Starting point is 03:08:53 Came out And Ice Cube Focused on Atlanta Strip Club You remember You know what I'm saying Yeah And then
Starting point is 03:09:01 When I went to Atlanta I don't think The only club That's still open from back then is Magic City. That's the only. Am I correct? Yes, 100%. Like there was other clubs. Honest came later, right?
Starting point is 03:09:17 Yeah, later. Came way later. And you guys introduced the strip club, even though Miami has been living we live off of no Culture of Miami no, but I'm saying to hip hop and yeah through hip hop here, too We're too live and all them and Luke and everybody. Oh, yeah, but we Can give you a land we made it we made the strip was famous. I mean we can battle that in Miami Name one stripper spread Red, to start. Who?
Starting point is 03:09:46 What's his name, Red? From Blue? Shorty Red. Shorty Red. Yeah. Shorty Red. That's only one, though. You said name one.
Starting point is 03:09:55 You said name one. I'm saying, like, listen. I'm just saying, like, two like two. I just think two like two gave birth to him. No, y'all did. Y'all gave birth to the... Because when I went to Atlanta, you can't even touch a girl in Atlanta in the strip club. You can't get a real lap dance.
Starting point is 03:10:12 You can't get nothing. In Miami, you can get full-on lap dance, everything. See, I... Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I don't know what time... I am stupid to this conversation. What are you talking about from the 90s on? Nah.
Starting point is 03:10:21 I'm talking about Rolex. By the way, Miami and Atlanta is the only place where it's real strip clubs at. Absolutely. I believe that. It's real strip clubs.
Starting point is 03:10:33 You can see a bitch hole insides for $10. You're right. You're right. But I think what he's saying is what we can all agree to
Starting point is 03:10:42 is that we broke records in the strip club. No, no. Y'all did what y'all did. All of is that we broke records in the strip club. No, no, y'all did what y'all did. All of us, we broke records in the strip club. But what we did, we made the strippers famous in Atlanta. That's what we did. Like, white chocolate, sugar, man.
Starting point is 03:10:59 Like, we stopped making the strippers. The strippers became, like, the product. I mean, I'm probably the bad ambassador for the strippers being famousppers became like the i mean i'm probably the bad ambassador for the strippers being famous in miami but i guarantee you luke made a lot of strippers in miami famous tip jr i mean you know something but i'm saying that that focus became atlanta's focus was like the strippers right it was a club called the gentleman's club and they they used to focus on like the hottest stripper a month right you go to the club you you see the girl soon as you walk in the club they have a big old sign out there like this is strip what a
Starting point is 03:11:31 month right the strip of the month so you start we would go to the clubs for that girl yeah I'm sure we had a strip of the day in Miami goddamn you know I mean and that to me me, that's what the strip club is lost now. The strip club don't, they don't focus on like entirely the South. The strip club culture is a Southern thing.
Starting point is 03:11:52 100%. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Atlanta, Miami. That's it. Yeah. These are two things I gotta, before we end this.
Starting point is 03:11:58 No, before, the thing is, we broke records in the strip clubs in the South. In Miami, in Atlanta, I'm assuming. Like, that's the way we broke records. the strip clubs in the South. In Miami, in Atlanta, I'm assuming. Like, that's the way we broke records.
Starting point is 03:12:06 These are two things I got to get established before I get out of here. All right. When you think of the strip club culture, as a person from New York, East Coast, I always think of Miami or Atlanta, right? And for a strange reason, every time I think of a lemon pepper, I think of Miami or Atlanta. Chigawicks? Yeah, motherfucker. No, he's thinking of the stripper.
Starting point is 03:12:39 Lemon pepper, motherfucker. I need to understand. Now, Bab, you from Ohio, right? Yeah. I'm from New York. So me and you got Now, Bab, you from Ohio, right? Yeah, I was born here. I'm from New York. So me and you got to ask, you from Miami, correct? You from Miami. I'm from Miami. All right, all right, listen. Let's do a game show, all right?
Starting point is 03:12:55 Let's go. Let's do a game show. Are you going to roll up our sleeves? I want to say, where did the strip club culture start? And I want to see which one of y'all. I don't think we can say it started anywhere. Anywhere? Okay.
Starting point is 03:13:12 Sex is everywhere, bro. Sex? I'm saying like. No, strip club culture. Strip club culture. Because that didn't represent sex. See, at some point, that's the reason why New York didn't mess with strip club culture. Because we thought you had to buy sex and all that.
Starting point is 03:13:27 No. The further north you went up, it was horrible. Players Club, the movie, actually. Y'all had pasties in the club. That was horrible, man. What's wrong with y'all? Okay, you win. You win on that.
Starting point is 03:13:36 Pasties. But after we seen the movie Players Club, New Yorkers was like, oh, that's what they do. They go there to chill. We didn't know that. You don't agree with me? I agree with you. You're way too young. Obviously.
Starting point is 03:13:55 On this one, stay out. Stay out. Because you're my brother. But you're way too. The strip club was almost like being in a club. JD, you. Don't worry. No, go ahead. Pay no mind to us. The strip club was almost like being in a club JD you Don't worry Just
Starting point is 03:14:07 No go ahead Pay no mind to us We're just here talking But At that time When the players club came out The movie You remember that?
Starting point is 03:14:19 That's the first time New Yorkers Realized that Southerners Y'all actually go to strip club to chill. Wait, but what year was Players Club? I don't know.
Starting point is 03:14:30 We got a guy, he got the Google in front of him. Because before that movie came out, y'all was already coming down to Miami for How Can I Be Down. And Luke was already doing Luke's peep show. And we was not fucking with strip clubs. See, strip clubs was disrespectful. No, he's talking about New York. I'm just saying New York. By the. It was not fucking with strip clubs. Strip clubs was disrespectful. No, he's talking about New York.
Starting point is 03:14:46 I'm just saying New York. By the way, I'm going to say this. But I'm saying it was coming down. Hold on, let me say this. It was coming down. Let me just say this. What he's talking about with the New York shit. When I put out Bone Crusher and I put out the Youngbloods, right?
Starting point is 03:15:05 Dope. Youngbloods is so dope put out the Youngbloods, right? Dope. Youngbloods is so dope. Yo, Youngbloods is so dope. Come on, everybody at the table. Hey, my guy. I feel horrible, but I didn't realize that. This nigga JD is coming here. He's Youngbloods.
Starting point is 03:15:18 So when I put these records out, K Slay, K Slay, K Slay, he Slay, he was dissing me. He was mad at me. I don't know why, but I don't know what it was. But K Slay has said that one of my street team guys went out, and they were saying that K Slay was like, yo, if you bring another one of these Southern records in here, we're not with this shit. This is before New York sounded the way New York sounds right now. Because I couldn't imagine K-State sound.
Starting point is 03:15:51 So, the strip club era, what he's talking about, New York wasn't on this. They never were. New York had their own way that they was doing. Suze Rendezvous in the Bronx, right? Left dance is standing up. That even came later. I went to Suze, and I was checking out how they was going on Suze. I was like, yo, you know what? I'm going to do Atlanta versus New York.
Starting point is 03:16:16 So I got every girl from the Gentleman's Club, Magic City, and Strokers, and all these places, and I put them on this tour bus, and I took them to New York. And we went to New York And we did this battle Between Atlanta and New York Amber Rose was still stripping At Sue's Rendezvous
Starting point is 03:16:31 At this particular point in time Dropping gems And it was like You could tell It was a completely different era Of what was happening in Atlanta Compared to what was going on in New York. Right.
Starting point is 03:16:46 Now New York looks just like Atlanta. Sonically as well. Strip clubs, sound, everything. So you're saying back then y'all killed this. Yeah, we killed you. Yeah. No, he's saying take over. But it was the culture that you're talking about.
Starting point is 03:17:00 I brought that to New York with the thing. And just, you know, Atlanta the thing and just, you know, Atlanta was ahead of the fake asses. All that shit. Atlanta was doing it. All that shit started there. Atlanta was all that.
Starting point is 03:17:18 By the way, and this was after Luke, so it wasn't like, not like I was disrespecting Miami because Miami definitely set this off. But it was like,
Starting point is 03:17:31 after Luke stopped his penetration of what he was doing with Paul's, it was, it was, you know, Luke was the guy
Starting point is 03:17:40 that was letting everybody know what was going on in Miami as far as the strip clubs go. Once he stopped that, Atlanta took that over. I agree.
Starting point is 03:17:48 But we took it over, like I said, in a light that put the light on the dancers, the girls. The girls that was, you know, you wanted to see this girl, you wanted to see this girl, you wanted to see this girl. That's what Atlanta did. We put the light on the girls. So that's why these chicks got a million followers. Yeah, that's where that started. And no heart.
Starting point is 03:18:09 Yeah, that's where that started. No heart. They roofed us out here. You ever see this girl? I was not horny in Atlanta. Yeah. Hey, twin, you got to relax. What?
Starting point is 03:18:21 Yeah. Yo, let me tell you something. If you ever see a Spanish guy sad, just bring him to Atlanta. Yo, Spanish niggas get no love in Atlanta. No love. Yo. You gonna tell me I got no love? Nigga, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:18:36 You got no love. I'm good at homing every bitch. You drive home. You drive home. You drive home. I know he knows, man. He told me you had to bust off before I drove the car again. Yeah, because he was lonely.
Starting point is 03:18:51 He stood there. Let me tell you something. I used to see the Cuban bitches, the Venezuelan, Colombian. Listen, listen, listen. But when I got there, I saw a very authentic African-American. I'm fucking with you. He didn't finish. I saw a real yellow bowl.
Starting point is 03:19:08 I was fucking going crazy. Yo, tell them about it. You heard this hard-ass Cuban bitch say my name? These fucking big-ass fucking yellow bowls. The real ass. I was going crazy. You got to relax, Trey. All right. Listen.
Starting point is 03:19:24 I'm so sorry. You I didn't see your ass. I'm so sorry. Your back is in the ass. Your back, back, back. See, Bow, I've been through this already. Bow, I've been through this. So Bow, I'm just looking at JD. And you know what?
Starting point is 03:19:34 Bow, I was little, right? Bow, I was little. Uh-huh. Please tell us. I had all these stripper girls around me. And Bow, I just used to be like, yo, mad. Why? Because he was mad at me because I had all these stripper girls. And the nigga was like, one day we took this trip to Dallas and the nigga went crazy on
Starting point is 03:19:56 the stripper girl on his bus. They got mad at him? He was like a little kid, but he was crazy. He was almost like damn near trying to take everybody hostage or some crazy shit. Because he wanted this stripper so bad. He wanted this girl so bad. And you had her with you? Yeah, it was mad because I had her with me. And when he got old enough, he went and fucked all these girls that was like these old, these
Starting point is 03:20:21 stripper shit I used to fuck with. This nigga went and broke fuck all the girls. Like, that's it. That's the original Bow Wow Challenge. So, Bow, I wasn't gonna bring this up. Oh my God. I'm so sorry, you know I'm not a gossip guy. That's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 03:20:42 But he's gonna bring it up. But I gotta bring it up, because JD gave me the super eye lube. I'm not a gossip guy. That's not what I'm saying. But he's going to bring it up. But I got to bring it up because J.D. gave me the super eye loop. I'm just so dumb. So what is it? Media take out? They're saying that you responded to Future. Yeah, no, I've seen that.
Starting point is 03:20:56 No, the media just took what I said and put it to it. If you want to be petty, you can be petty. No, not at all. Not at all. It was actually about a chick who I took to the islands. And when I took her down to the islands. No bullshit, listen, no bullshit. I took the girl to the islands.
Starting point is 03:21:13 And the whole time she was, you know, front like she didn't have a dude or whatever. So when we got back home, my partner Slim was like, yo, did you know da-da-da-da-da? And I was like, I ain't spoken to her, she ain't. Nah, nah, nah, I had nothing to do with him. Nah, I swear to God, I had nothing to do with him. Nothing to do with him. And when I seen who the nigga was, nigga's a celeb, but the nigga's a real sucker though.
Starting point is 03:21:35 So when I seen it, that's why I was like, oh shit, like I really had your bitch in the Bahamas. And I see you now on Instagram, hugging, hugging, loving, holding her hand, kissing her now. Oh,
Starting point is 03:21:50 that's just not the play of move. Like her mouth was in places. And so when I saw it, but the crazy shit is she actually called me and she called me. She said, um, Hey, look,
Starting point is 03:22:02 look, look, you know, can you just say like, we, we was just broke. Like we was just kicking it. Right. When I in atlanta like we wasn't doing nothing right it's the first time i'm like what the fuck you talking about but my mind clicked like oh shit she in front of her dude like i'm gonna just play along with it now we cool we ain't never we ain't never did nothing
Starting point is 03:22:17 just to save her little relationship she had going on but i didn't know who the nigga was when i seen who the nigga was i was like oh this nigga and that's what prompt me to put the tweet up about the bra she got real bow wow lost me But I'm in the crib about my niggas I believe Listen You can't be telling Listen You're a great person You can do whatever the fuck you want to do Look, Val That's the great thing about you The thing is, there's a great conversation I just heard the other day And they said
Starting point is 03:23:18 You know, you see Think of here a great artist They say, yeah, alright, cool well they they artistry starts from such and such but when it's new school artists you get to see them make mistakes from 14 all the way up because we didn't have that back then like back then you had to like do something and for in order for people to even recognize you. But the new generation, they can throw out a record, and you can see their mistakes from the very beginning.
Starting point is 03:23:59 And our era, we really had to actually have a record label. YouTube is everybody's record label. Absolutely. I want to say, when you speak on what you're saying, though, like, Bow Wow, I didn't make no mistakes. No, no, no. I was speaking about Bow Wow. No, no, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 03:24:13 I'm saying, I think. Younger generation, I'm saying. Which is really weird, because people always really got something to say about Bow Wow. They never really. Not me. That's my nigga. I'll be bigger than Bow Wow. Bow Wow is like the funds. The funds? Like, funsy funds Like like funsy like Fonzie
Starting point is 03:24:34 Happy days niggas is mad about cuz he fucked a bitches What's your time? What's your time, man? Pause you. Why you fighting all the bitches? Bow wow. You want a shot? Come on. But it's facts. I'm going to end it like that. I'm just saying, like, you ain't really got no reason to be mad at Bow Wow. I sent you a Puck Daddy pool, my nigga. I sent you. Yeah, we was there.
Starting point is 03:24:54 You get it in. He calls me. I got to catch this call. I'm going to get to the pool. All right, listen. We got to take it. We got to do it. Are you going out?
Starting point is 03:25:00 We're going to do a picture. You going to do it? Wait, wait, wait. We got to end it. We got to do a picture and a drop. Yeah. Listen. Thank y'all. Listen. I'm going to be honest. Good You going to do it? Wait, wait, wait, wait. We got to end it. We got to do a picture and a drop. Listen. Thank y'all. Listen.
Starting point is 03:25:06 I'm going to be honest. Because Bow Wow. Thank you for coming, Bow Wow. Always, man. But Bow Wow is a big supporter of this show, by the way. Thank you. Thank you very much. That's our nigga.
Starting point is 03:25:18 And he was a great guest. Great guest. All right. Listen. I'm going to be honest. Just in case both of y'all don't know, I'm going to reiterate what we represent. There's never been an outlet in media where a rapper is controlling what rap media listens to. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:25:36 I don't know how I did it. I don't know how the fuck me and this motherfucker came up with this idea. But for some reason, people come in, tune in, and they listen to this. And if you don't believe me, you will see it on your social media. You will see it. Because you've seen it when you did Rap Raider. It's my bad. I know this nigga since Impact Convention.
Starting point is 03:26:01 All right. But that's our people. We're not dissing them. And we don't want to be in competition with nobody. But that's not what we do. We just want to have I mean, you wasn't really
Starting point is 03:26:09 trolling them that day. No, no, no. He's a troll ass motherfucker right there. You wasn't trolling me. You was trolling them. Nah, I was trolling you. I'm just keeping it honest.
Starting point is 03:26:17 I'm going to go 100% honest. You was like, daddy don't fuck with them. Listen, listen. That time, the impact convention in Reno, Nevada. I don't know if you know. Listen, that time Impact Convention in Reno, Nevada,
Starting point is 03:26:25 I don't know if you know, them niggas would have killed all of us. This is West Coast against everybody that day. So anybody who's still in that lobby, I respect it.
Starting point is 03:26:36 And I still... I never felt any... They were never talking about me. Nah, because you... By the way, let's go back to the Puff Daddy thing.
Starting point is 03:26:43 Yeah, but you know why... They were never talking about me. You know why, J.D.? You make Puff Daddy thing. They were talking about me. You know why, J.D.? You made global music. I made street music at that time. I made music, and especially I had a record called L.A. L.A.
Starting point is 03:26:53 So I stood down there, and there was only a couple of people that stood down there. You stood down, and I said, Yo, J.D., can I buy you a drink? And you said that shit to me. You said, I want Don Perignon. I said, damn, I didn't know what that was. I turned around and knew Levine said, he want what?
Starting point is 03:27:12 I said, Dom Perignon. That shit was like $4.60 at that time. I said, I can't. In Reno, too. In Reno. I said, I can't tell a nigga I ain't got it. The rest of the record, they would send it to him. I said, I can't tell a nigga I ain't got it. The president of the record label said it to him.
Starting point is 03:27:25 I said, I'm good. Now, anytime I see JD, and you know what? These years later, you probably didn't even know what that moment meant to me. You was probably the only East Coast nigga that stood there standing with me. I don't even want to talk about. There's other people that was there. But they went upstairs. At some point they found
Starting point is 03:27:49 their girl and I stood there. You know the only person I stood there with? My Uncle Wise. This is my mother's brother. And my Uncle Wise just stood there. And you didn't know what you did. You just like, yeah, I said, what you did you just like yeah I said
Starting point is 03:28:05 let me buy you a drink and he said yeah I drink Dom Perignon I didn't know what that was but I went and I went and I did that
Starting point is 03:28:14 and you stood there with him and then E40 woke this is all in the podcast
Starting point is 03:28:23 this is all documented and then the E-40 came because they were all right there. But they were like, that nigga made LA LA. But now I'm on the Superdome. What, what, what, what? I have another one record in the country.
Starting point is 03:28:36 Your nigga's gotta relax. But I don't know how to tell him relax. I don't know how, but I'm like, yo, I'm not a sucker. I just, so I'm a, I stood right in front
Starting point is 03:28:48 of them niggas. And then E-40 came and then Jermaine Dupri came. Yeah, I know you don't even know this. I know. Yeah, I know you don't even know this.
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