Drink Champs - Episode 106 w/ THE-DREAM

Episode Date: November 28, 2017

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And I swear to God, this guy we got in the building tonight, I really searched and went through his whole catalog and I couldn't find an okay record. It always was the banginest record. You say you make babies to them. No, no, no, no. I'm going to get to that. I want to get to that. Everybody got a baby behind this guy. But he makes, he revolutionary.

He revolutionary the hip hop to me in a way that, excuse me, R&B and hip hop. Because he had melodies. He was right. It was almost like he was writing it from a rapper's perspective. But it was 100%. Kind of like what MC's are doing now in a way. I think they're all his children. So if the people don't know by now We are talking to the Dream in the building

Make some noise How many babies you think was made to your music? 2.5 2.5 At least like 3 million As many people voted for Trump Oh god So look Dream How did you develop that style? As many people voted for Trump. Oh, God. Why we go there? So, look, Dream, right?

How did you develop that style? Because everybody is kind of somewhat mimicking what you do. Like, you had melodies first in your music. You appealed. I put it like this. I'm going to be honest, right? I really wasn't a big R&B fan, right? But there's certain people that certain music, it was like they made

it for me. Not like, you know, like what I mean is, it was easier for me to understand. To digest it, yeah. It was easier for me to digest it. And you are 100%. Like, I've never heard a rap dream record. Ever. Thank you, man. Should we make some noise for that? Hey.

Were you ever an aspiring rapper, though, before? Before singing? So how did you develop that style? How do you think so? Oh, man. Were you ever an aspiring rapper though before? Let me finish my question. Before singing? My bad, my bad. Oh, you were going to do that? So how did you develop that style? How do you think so?

Oh man. Answer both at the same time. I will. I will. I think most, R&B at the time was more of offense. I mean, it was more defense I guess I should say. And my shit was just more offensive. That's how I kind of of what I feel about rap

Like I feel like it's just high power offense all the time and fuck the repercussions after that So if you put that in football terminologies, it's like fuck it Let's have a 5550 game like like no defense like just say all the shit you need to say And and yeah, you're right. A lot of that just came from where I was from, Westside Atlanta. Westside Atlanta. We grew up to be aspiring, you know, rappers at the time. I came, 90s was my shit. I thought you were from Virginia too. No, no, no, from Atlanta, Georgia.

So Outkast is popping. Exactly. So you got Outkast popping. Goody Mob. Exactly. You got Goody Mob. And everybody's kind of gravitating toward this Atlanta scene. And at the time, you know, Freak Neat was the biggest thing.

Biggest thing in the world. Like, period. Yeah, biggest thing. Because the center of the culture was in Atlanta for me. And I'm this teenager, young, growing up. Of course I want some champagne. I don't think you're drinking right now. No, hold on, bud.

I think he's drinking. So for me, it was easy to see. And plus then Jermaine Dupri Started riding around In Ferraris and shit Dallas Austin Was getting it

At that particular point A lot of people Don't even know And when you saw that You know And being on the Bible Belt Is where the music part Comes from

Like because You're in a place Where Baptist churches You know Like we had to sing In a church It's a part of the culture Anyway

I'm going to say A lot of like Ill singers, I've noticed they started out in like church and like choirs. In the choir, yeah. Oh, period. Oh, you know what I'm saying. Stop a little here. That's your Patron. That's your Deleon.

That's my Deleon. That's your Deleon. And that's your champagne cup right here. So go ahead, continue. So for me, it was just more so about let me take a sip let's get it right let's get it right that's that deli on the puff He got it right. We used to pour black over here. What was I in? I'm fucked up. Atlanta. Atlanta. The scene.

The scene. The church choir. The church choir. So everybody's in the church anyway. And you made it pre-haven a Ferrari. I believe that's what happened. That's awesome. Because what really happened is L.A. Reid came down to Atlanta and revolutionized

what the music scene was. L.A. Reid is not from Atlanta? revolutionized what the music scene was. L.A. Reid is not from Atlanta? No. And how did he revolutionize it? L.A. Reid's a motherfucking Cincinnati player. Oh, shit. A Cincinnati player. That's hard.

That's hard. Some of us know what that means. He's from Cincinnati. He sounds like Pimp Shit. He's from Cincinnati. That sounds like Pimp Shit. He's from Cincinnati. Okay.

But he just kind of Showed the culture of Atlanta I believe for me How to get money That was a place Because he had an infrastructure That wasn't a place we could just go to At the time LaFace when he opened it up It was like oh shit you take the records over there

And although I was too young to take them there It's like a bat signal in the sky It was the only place there So for us that was our def jam at the time was tlc on the face yes of course oh that was a def jam great yeah so everything atlanta came out originally in the 90s was like was like the face oh yeah because babyface is from atlanta as well babyface is um outcast came out through the face outcast came out through the face goodie mob oh came out Through LaFace Goody Mob

Oh man You got Then you got the people Who came after that You got the T.I.'s And I don't even have To get into that Me and Tip

I'm talking about early night But yeah T.I. definitely Yeah Yeah so but I'm saying In my group That was my influence You know looking at that And that's what Tip

Looked at You know me and Tip Went to elementary school Together Oh shit So we're We're watching this shit And saying oh Y'all make Hold up Whoa timeout we didn't know you can make that type of

money from music you know everybody in New York knew that already but everybody in LA knew that tips seemed like he only, but I'm taking English. Like, that's it. I think that's right, actually. For real, bro. I don't know what else. But go ahead, go ahead. But New York, you know, they had the infrastructures. Hollywood is the same way, you know, especially with television and movies. And Atlanta was just this, you know, young, church-going, cultural, black thing happening.

And we just found out that motherfuckers can get Ferraris for singing and dancing right Ferraris for singing and dancing we out we out dancing and dancing so let's go I believe like the first time like people got to see your personality like to show that you was hood was the time where you and Jay Z accepted that award and it was like you walked up there you accepted that award. And it was like, you walked up there and you was just like, man, fuck it. Oh, definitely. And then, he was like, Joe,

who was the guy? He got me good. But he say, I like to thank the swap meet. And that's the crazy thing about me and his relationship that grew, you know, from a certain place from from umbrella you know that grew into this thing that that is hard to think that

you know I'm not really the like this is my guy you look on Instagram not like every time I with Jayla's selfie selfie time you know I'm not referring to him all the time so it's a little bit different so when of course when he first said everybody's like damn duh you know take a swipe at you like that that's how he is off camera I'm like I probably had that coming from like five jokes ago I seen Hov one day and Hov just stopped me when he came out here Diego was there Hov said I would ask you how you doing but your glasses say it all and I said that was some funny shit i didn't say

it as good as he said it but it was like he's really a funny guy okay i think you the humor at the top lives there like i think all of us are just you just naturally have to gravitate to a place you know shit's fucked up out here so it's like you know you better have something now i just listened to scissor. Awesome, listen to that. Oh man, her albums on the game. She made me feel bad for every relationship I ever did in life. Oh yeah? Like I just wanted to call people and apologize.

But she talk about all kinds of side-chicks. She's all costs. It's not just regular side-chicks. Why you crying? She's like the side-chicks of her records. The way she was breaking down, she was hurt. And it just made me think of the shit I did in the past for years ago. And I still just want to say, I'm sorry.

Are you over that? Is R&B, as you said earlier, defensive? Offensive. No, you said hip hop was offensive. And R&B And then he took it offensive So do you think Cause like Cause like It was like

I remember at one point Like Mary J. Blige For example Like as soon as you heard Her go through tragedy Everybody would say That album gonna be fire Like do an R&B person

Have to go through drama In order for the music To be like that Man I think Speaking for myself As a songwriter, and I have to say that, like, it doesn't matter which genre I'm in, like, it's an animal that's hard to tame because we constantly need things to fuel that, you know, inspiration.

It's hard because, you know, on one hand, you're having, you know, people wanting you to live everyday life the exact same way. And then your life changes in multiple ways. First of all, you learn things that are different, even just from one stretch going from, oh, when I grew up, I was in Baptist church. And now I'm questioning everything, everything that everybody does. But that's the writer in me like and when you write you don't you're basically um you're basically inventing the words are invented the scenarios and all of the things that you're talking about is being invented so you have to

invent those situations to even talk about or you can talk about some shit that's old right which then somebody else's tragedy or somebody else's tragedy right um but but i think it's such a it's such a hard animal you know to tame right like like really and i say that with the utmost respect for all the great writers they have to go through you have to go through something when you see these movies you know it's all inspired by something yeah well you can't want you, the heart and soul from somebody without them pouring out their heart and soul. The best heart comes out of pain. How did you write Umbrella?

It was just raining? Oh, man. Did you have an umbrella? You didn't have an umbrella? You was like, man. I definitely bought a lot after that. He bought stocks and umbrellas.

They don't never rain on me now. Shit. So how do you, because like, that always amazes me. You know, one, I know about all the, most of the songwriting you do. And for you to step out yourself and jump into another artist's zone, not only just. Oh, well of the different sex. Oh, man How do you do that? Oh, man, you know, it's I'm like 99 people my wife witnesses it all the time This is I know she doesn't really admit it. I know I can be Beyonce when I wake up Oh, I'm Rihanna about three o'clock. God. Yeah, I'm Jay and push it about seven to eight and then nine

I'm Celine Diaz and 12 You have a Kanye West Of course Because I'll say that we'll ever be made I was trying to you know, it didn't work How did you get that is on like what was you do, what was you doing? I think it was just time. You know, I had my first daughter at that time. And I think it was time for me to stop fucking around and playing with myself and where I needed to go. And I just turned on a different thing.

You know, it's just like a switch. I knew how to do what I needed to do But I've always Done better with pressure And that song was just Out of pure pressure in life And not really just about being broke And not having certain things I was okay then I can say that I had a music career

At that particular point in time As a writer I was getting checks out of the game I had a publishing deal But it was just one of those things where it clicked and when you can see it, it's almost like

having an out-of-body experience. I watched myself walk in and write that record. And you wrote it before her 100%. Oh, no. The record was wrote originally for Britney Spears.

Ooh. Wow. If anybody remembers the Umbrella Incident. Tell. If anybody remembers the umbrella incident. Tell us the umbrella incident. Let's get to the umbrella incident, God damn it. I think it was,

I don't know if she was driving with the keys. Let me see if Britney Spears would have fit on an umbrella. Nope. No. Who's she gonna put on there? Kid Rock?

Cause she, I don't know, I don't think about it. It wouldn't fit her. It wouldn't. I don't think it would. But she worked on Britney Spears. I mean,

she wouldn't find a man on her own. Well, that's where it fit her. But you worked on it pretty fast. I mean, she wouldn't find me on her own. Well, that's where it came from. I worked on a record called Me Against the Music that featured Madonna at the time earlier on. Man, wait, wait, wait. So... Let's make some noise. Come on, you can't throw my body out of there. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. You can go. We're so happy for you, brother. What the hell? Did a moonwalk in the session? Hilarious. That's right happy for you, brother. What the heck? Michael Jackson? Did a moonwalk in the session? Hilarious. That's right. But I was... It was already a relationship there, so

in this game, you know, the best chance... But how did it go from it being Britney Spears' record to Rihanna's record? Oh, that's a whole other thing. I sent it in. A person that's my good friend now, I won't throw her under the bus, but I sent it to a person is my good friend now. I won't throw her under the bus She's just so I said it's a pretty pretty people and one of the people who got the record actually is a good friend of Mines now we work really really close, but at that time told me wasn't a hit record

What don't the word I got back? Yeah, we're gonna take some shots To get this game out of there You brought that okay? We need to get back to this and get this name out of there. You're probably not going to get it. That's my boo. Go ahead. And it just grew on from there. I'm like, fuck that.

I don't know what she's talking about. She's smoking something. She's high or she's in fear of losing her job. I don't know what it is. And literally after that, the record was heard. It's kind of crazy how this story happened. Me and Tr did the record but the record got from Atlanta it was just a peep of it and got heard at Def Jam by LA Reid and he sent a good friend of mine's now her name is Karen Kwok down to retrieve the record she's like who the fuck is writing this shit

who is it and at the time you know I was the young guy I didn't have no super big placement so nobody knew who the fuck I was you know really just people in the city of course people in the studio where we were working at in Atlanta but um that record of course went from there to um LA and Karen saying you know who this record would be great on Rih. And the record got played and I guess she heard about the record at a certain point in time, she's out at the Grammys that year earlier in 2007. And she heard about the record, I guess she had heard it but we had not cut the record yet. And she walked up to my manager and said that's my fucking record. No no no, Rihanna.

Oh yeah? Just like that that that's my fucking record from that here we know oh yeah you can't you can't argue the Western Indian girl you just gotta sit in it yes yeah just don't don't do it of course I heard that she said that in that way I was like yeah that's the motherfucker that should have had a record attitude right you got it right and and i was already kind of following her and she she already had a couple records that i that i felt were great and you knew this record was gonna go that that that's that far away how big it was gonna be i think i think timing and it's all based on a certain math that we can never really solve

you know lightning in the bottle things happen for you and it's a blessing that those things are out of your control you know the only thing you do is be prepared so I was prepared for the moment but to say I knew exactly what it would do I knew what it was you know I say that about a good record I know I knew it was a better than good record right I knew it was a great record but shit happens man people just shot time certain songs that I had roll the shit out the wrong way you like what the fuck you know there's other there's other things that come in other forces they come into play yeah you never wrote a record and it was like let me take my shit back like a rotor record

for somebody because I ain't go for that's why I can't write shit with nobody I'm taking my seat back Because I ain't gonna that's why I can't write shit with nobody I didn't want to you didn't want to okay, but I didn't want to do it the person could hit the notes right or something Right hit the notes right you say? Hit the notes right. I think you said the pussy's been taken. The notes. We need the pussy. Come on, get your mind together. My bad, my bad. I don't know where he took it. Don't wake my gut up.

I'm trying to stay right there. So you made the record and you wrote it for them and then... I wrote it for him, which was Jamie Foxx at the time. It was a record called Rockin' That Shit. Rockin' That Shit. Yeah. He couldn't rock that shit so it just turned into one of those things where i wrote it for him and he was like i think i did like six records on that album um the first single ended up being uh blame it which was

which was a record that was in an interpolation of i love Your Girl which is my older record at the time I love your girl, I love your girl I'm happy either way like okay and he's like this record is cool but Dream I need a dream record I need a dream I'm like this that new shit like do this shit like nah I'm good and so I was kind of happy he said nah I'm good and that shit was my first single you need to make some noise for Dream being like me. That's exactly what I would do. That's exactly what I would do. That was a good night.

So what's it like being in a session with Kanye West? For me, pretty tame. Right. What does that mean? I don't even know what that means. Pretty tame is, you know, everybody has these ideas. Just tigers and bangles and elephants. Well, you know, people just have different ideas

about people, for sure. And I think, you know, on some real nigga shit, it's just one of them things that, when you people, you people, you know, everybody has their ups, their downs, and shit that they go through. But most of all, I think, when you're talking about the creators,

they're pretty loved, you know loved individuals by all of us. And it's love coming back our way. Absolutely. So when I'm with Kanye, I don't see anything other than greatness in what he's trying to get done. I don't see any other noise, any other shit. Noise may happen after that, but for me, we on one. We locked in. So it's synergy between y'all.

Oh, yeah. We walk in and we get the shit done, you know? And it's been days or it's been nights, man. I've flown out to Paris and we didn't do shit for like three, four days and I'm just, you know, sitting there. Just ate as cargo? Exactly.

Ate as cargo. I eat snails in Paris. I'm a different type of person in Paris. Throw that out there right now and judge me. I eat snails with cheese in Paris. Damn. He had the cheese. And it's fantastic. Next he go be saying he had a bacon.

No, no, no. No bacon, no bacon, no bacon. So, single ladies. How did... Because that's a super girl record. What else at that time... This is the easiest one. I was a girl.

I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. I was a girl. Because that's a super girl record What else At that time

This is the easiest one Yeah What else would Beyonce be singing about To all my single ladies Is that the way you looked at it Yeah she was in a relationship Nobody knew if Jay was there Y'all didn't know what it was

I happened to be on tour at the time With Jay and Mary I was the time with Jay and Mary. I was opening up for Jay and Mary on the tour. And I remember Jay coming in. He's like, y'all, I need you to go in right with my girl. And I was like, all right, cool, bet. It's nothing. The next thing that popped up is, oh, cool.

So, you know, you're like an investigator. You're just reporting the news. Like, okay, nobody really knows. If you like it, you should have put a ring on it it could admit a whole bunch of shit to a lot of People it's a coffee. I call it a coffee table conversation It was just one of those things that was an obvious thing to write like and you know You didn't see the ring into the video. I was just like oh cool. I'm gonna set all this shit up and so Yeah, what better public way to say, oh, yeah, we actually together together. Musical TMZ.

That's a real moment. That is a real moment. That's pretty cool. And it's like Jay just continues to work with you. Like, one of the craziest masterminds in the world knows that you're a mastermind. That's crazy. That's all. That's what kind of matters to me the most of what I do with the people I respect and that I work with.

Is that the greatest people who are doing this shit knows. We think we finish with the album. No, we're not. Call that nigga nigga even if he just got to come listen to it even if he adds four bars or he adds three hooks or a whole song make sure we call him and that's I take the most pride in that because that's that's just more more important you know to me that the legends yeah that's like yo like that's the God. Right. Yeah, that's way more important than me.

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Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Now, Justin Bieber. Oh, yeah. You wrote for his first single? Was that his first single? No.

That was not? It wasn't. I was wrong. Okay. But I'm glad you feel like it is. I feel like I said it. I feel like you birthed him. That's the first thing I do, Norm.

I feel like you birthed him. I'm just giving you the prize. Dream, just roll with it. Okay. Before you Bieber it, let's... Before we Justin Bieber it, Tiger Bonet. This is Tiger Bonet. This is spoiled soy sauce. This is... Before we adjust the beaver, this is Tiger Ball.

This is spoiled soy sauce. This is... Nothing we're supposed to be drinking right now. This is... It's a tradition with the show. This is going to go with my oxycodone, because I don't... Whoa! I don't think nothing here goes with oxycodone.

Oh, okay. Well, let's try it, man. Let's see what happens. Hold on, hold on. We got to toast this up. And when you toast it all night tonight, we are celebrating a dream. We respect you. You are actually first R&B guest. We got to toast this up. And when you toast it all night tonight, we are celebrating a dream. We respect you. You are actually first R&B guest.

First R&B. Awesome. By itself. Because we did have Drew Hill, right? But they came, they was with G.U.A. That was him. G.U.A. and Corrupted. G.U.A. and Corrupted. We had a live episode and threw Drew Hill in there. It was awkward. But we made it work. But we made it work.

But tonight, we are saluting who I consider new RNG King RNG I consider him the king I consider him the person that shape and mold what music sound like today and we will salute that tonight let's make some Oh Yo, you're gonna write seven songs There's some country ass shit right here Fucking grits What did Emma Rose say it tastes like she said be Perfect thing

Like I said, we be getting a birthday guy, girl. Like, that don't taste like... So you like it? You want more? No, later on. We're going to build up to it. So, who was your funnest sessions you ever had? I just got the first sexual reaction to his first session.

Oh, yeah. Let's go through all the Tiger Ball motions. You got to go through it. So, what was your favorite session you ever had? Like, you just walked in

and everything was perfect. Whether it be you producing, writing, or your own session. Oh, man. The favorite session I walked in was the no church in a while session no church in the wild yeah that was my favorite session oh no church in a while that's the one with on Frank Ocean I can see Frank will J in it too no no he wrote

his own part okay but that was the that was the best one that was the record cuz that was based off if you don't know the back story now at the time I couldn't say what the back story was because it was a huge deal of what was happening. But at the time, Jay and Kanye were finishing up Watch the Throne. Watch the Throne. And we were listening to it in Paris. Right. You know it.

Easy, Paris. Yeah. But we kind of threw a monkey wrench in that. I came home because I felt like they had the album, and they were kind of done with what it was. And I wrote Holy Grail at the time and sent it back to Jay. Just threw it in there. Holy Grail.

Oh. I know all your records. Let's go. We're going to be here all night. So I sent that back to Jay as they're finishing up, because I just wanted to get ahead and just start working on what his next shit was. I knew Washington was going to be crazy. Wait, what was with Justin Timberlake, right?

That was on Holes Island. That was on Washington. Right. Okay, okay, okay. You get into it, my man. I got to relax. I got to relax. So I sent the record to Jay.

He's in the bag. Yo, man, this is my first single. I'm naming my album that. I was like, all right, cool, bet. Let me know when it's time first single. I'm named my album that Bob Bob's I cool bit. Let me know it's time to cut I'm in Newport Beach, California I've got a nice boat out there. It feels good. I'm out there writing some shit. I feel lovely Phones blowing up. I don't know what the fuck they want on the East Coast

I'm in on the Sun cuz I'm like nah ain't got time for it right now. I get a call from my good friend, Shaka Pilgrim. That's the homie, of course. Shaka calls me. I need you at the Mercer in New York right now. It's like, no. I don't think I'm going to play golf

at 6 a.m., so I'm good. I'm going to just stay right here. I'm having a good time. You play golf? Let's make some noise. That's enough. That's enough. Good to you. Good to you. I'm off at 6 a.m., so I'm good. I'm just gonna stay right here, I'm having a good time. Are you playing golf? Let's make some noise. That's enough, that's enough. That's enough, that's enough. That's enough, that's enough. That's enough, that's enough.

Good to hear you, good to hear you. Good to hear you. Uh-huh. Good to hear you. So I don't wanna leave, of course, like my booze, yes. So I'm asking what the deal is, and she won't tell me over the phone what's going on.

So I kinda get a little sideways idea about what's going on. It's like, yo, Jay Jay played Kanye Holy Grail and Kanye asked me to put on Watch the Throne he was like nah I'm good I'm gonna keep this on my album you said we was done with the album you know xyz and so what happened from that is of course I flew into course, I flew into New York. And the main thing was, oh, we need you to write another Holy Grail. And Jay's like, yeah, he's going to go out to the trunk and get one out of the trunk and just bring it upstairs for us. And even me, as confident as I am, I was thinking the same thing. Like, yeah, this shit ain't just in my back pocket, nigga.

That's it. It's a process. That's a one and done right there. You want me to go back to West Coast? So, long story short, I went in. Like that's that's awesome. That's the one and done right there. You want me go back to West Coast so Short the long story short I Went in it was working on no church in a while Can you like yo I need you to put something on this record I went in the next room

But I bought my pop pop pop pop didn't think nothing of it And me Jay and Leonardo DiCaprio at that time went... Come on, man. What? His life is just dope. No. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We just went to grab something to eat, man. Mama's dress, I walked it up to her. I was on the piano.

We just went to grab something to eat, man. I never heard about the record again. I thought I put something on No Church in a While at that time. And I get a phone call like months later. And Shocker's on the phone. He's like, yeah, so you don't watch the throne? I was like, no, you're talking about Jay's shit. He's like, I'm not on Watch the Thrones. He's like, man, I just did a listing in New York.

You don't fucking watch the thrones. I was like, no, I'm not. He's like, no, Jay just listing in New York. You're on fucking Wash the Thrones. No, I'm not. I was like, no, Jay just recited your whole verse on No Church in a While. You're definitely on Wash the Thrones. I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? I have a got that I did this piece of the song that Kanye ended up keeping. That's how much hits he do. He just do a hit and forget about it.

I don't know. So initially, it wasn't even credit on there for it. It was just this part you know that because everybody was thinking the same thing like no that's just Kanye

and Jay and Frank Ocean and then you know later on of course put it together but that was the best session I walked into because it took me

about maybe six minutes to do that part and I got a Grammy for it so it was like wait can you say that again six minutes and do that part, and I got a Grammy for it. So, it was like. Wait, can you say that again?

Six minutes and a Grammy, nigga. So. The best six minutes a nigga could live. Exactly, that's how I felt. I was like, oh shit, I spent so much time on this shit. You motherfuckers doing it wrong out there. You motherfuckers taking all your time. Six minutes is all you need wrong out there. You motherfuckers taking all your time. Six minutes is all you need.

You taking all your time. You taking all your time. Playing six minutes to be perfect. Fucking hilarious. No, that's why that's the best session in my lifetime to date. It was just so easy.

And I got to hang out with my daughter over there. I'm like, oh, cool. We're good. This is great. I'm thinking nothing is nothing. Come on. What's the art of the Capra doing in that moment?

Me and my brother had no idea who the fuck I was at the time. He just gave you a high five. Let's do it, buddy. Jay's guy, I guess. Nah, get the fuck off. Nah, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. They know who you are, Dream. I'm just trying to be humble. But if you want to drink, champs, we don't get to be not humble for you. We beat you up all night. Okay, good. This is what we do for you. We beat you up all night.

Okay, good. This is what we do over here. We like to respect our artists. We look at our artists like they're superheroes, and we want the world to look at our artists like superheroes. Because that's truly what we do. We sacrifice our lives every day. You don't stop being an artist. You always be an artist every time.

So let me ask you with that being said, you have an experience of writing and producing. You produce too as well. Like, actually make the beats, right? And artists. If you had a chance to do it all over, with your experience now, right? With all the experience now,

you working with everybody from everybody to everybody, and you had a chance to do it all over. And you could pick one. Writing or, like... Producing? No, no, writing or being an artist. What would you pick? What's your biggest high? Writing.

Writing? Yeah. More than being in front of the camera? I didn't expect that. I didn't expect that. Fulfillment in expressing your own writing. No, no, because writing just touches more people. It's like the spider web effect.

When you're an artist, everything is mostly singular. You have an idea as you. This is what people think of you, and this is how it's going to sound when it comes out. Because it's based on you. Right. When I'm writing, I get to be Celine one day, and I get to be somebody else you know the size into you think of me Celine Dion yeah all right and he didn't even hit up with the deal that's how you know you know and now now so how do you write for Justin Bieber how do you how

do you cuz he's a kid at the time, correct? He's a kid at the time. He's a baby, right? Baby Bieber? Baby, baby. Oh, and baby. Yeah, baby. My son played that record so much, I probably know the record more than him.

So how do you get in that zone? Because that's what I'm saying. That's the psycho part. It was a grown man. That is the psycho shit. The record was actually a grown man record, but it was appropriate for the youth. Like, how could you balance that? Not to be weird.

I was just trying to figure out how to talk to, not figure out. I remembered how to talk to a girl when I was 16. So it was just about saying something that I felt like he needed to say to be cool. And what, like, because there's a point where you know especially young acts like they think they don't think about you have to sing this song or if you can't do a version of this song 10 years from that point and I try to think about that when I'm working with with younger with younger artists like yo yeah you're not you're 18 16 but you need to be able to sing this song to that audience that's going to grow with you when you're 27.

You don't need to be the lame motherfucker. Which a superstar at that age can identify with, but you could go back and think about yourself at that age and identify with them. Right. And so that's the psycho part. So that's a whole other, that's a blessing that can be unraveled. That's just something that I have. Jumping into different spaces, times, and moments and even to be pusher and just like, okay, let's go.

Or even rap battling with Jay on text. That's just a whole other thing, but I get to be those people and be in that place. That's kind of why I love it so much right and j-tex funny to hit you with like three lines I'll be like this is a rich text I always I saw a coconut every time I eat I was like this rich text I'll be having to decipher it it's just not it's just this witness rate explain it what is's just not. It's just written in this ring. But explain it.

What is it? It's just, it's like a couple of lines, then they got spaces. Now it's space like nothing. And then it's more lines. Then it's space. It's like three conversations. So he'll give you like four days to answer the questions and shit. Don't give me the next 30.

Yo, it's ill. Every time I look up, it's like, all right. He answered everything. It's just crazy. It's crazy. I'm sorry. I'm zoned out. I'm so I look up like I he answered everything it's just great. I'm sorry. I was on down I was on that so now I asked you about your best studio session or your favorite studio session now We know I gotta go there. What was your worst? man

The whole back. Oh man. This wasn't a studio session, but the worst With a good spirit friend of mine., the worst experience. Oh, shit, man. Riella was on tour, and we was cutting her whole album at this particular time. What? Her whole album. Cutting it.

Cutting her whole album. They were recording it. For the people that don't know, what that means, when you cut it, you make an album. You record it. Okay, that was mixing?

Recording. No, recording. So literally, after the concert, we would go backstage and cut records She would stay in the venue. We would cut records in the venue. That's hard She saw all the upcoming artists out there that think this shit is easy Did you hear what he just said after she performed they were in the back and recorded the record bingo Whoa, that's dedication cuz me I thought you know stage. I'm gonna sleep

I'm gonna sleep so so in return God decided to Figure out how bougie and weak I had gotten at this particular point in my life because at this time I'm like damn a lot of fucking zeros in my bank account like I feel good And then you find yourself on to one of your great friends In the middle of fucking Europe And you're like Where am I staying? Man If you ever stay

You stay in the plaza man Manhattan Of course And you know you go from shit like that You're like alright cool I got out there on the road man We got in this fucking hotel Motel

I don't even She's just a hotel A hostel It wasn't even a motel It was a motel only this is just a tail Half of a twin size and the heat was at the bottom so they're trying to bury a somebody in the business so do I cut that on do I man slip all clothes on a head all over face covered up are you been doing to anyone I've been doing I swear man, I was like, oh man, I'll turn into a little bitch. I used to be this I used to be that Atlanta nigga. I was like, I don't give a fuck, put me anywhere. Good, good. I woke up the next morning like, look boo, hey, I need you. I need you to get me a hotel room to this.

Right. And you know, the next one, one city over. What was the city, babe? Newcastle? Newcastle. The next city over. Newcastle, that's where they make the beer continue we got to that spot next after we did a show somewhere else before that and it was two tubs in my master bedroom and i was like all right we back bitch we back i'm sorry yo listen when i'll tell you two hotel stories when i was coming up we all it was no hotels

it was sold out, it was probably like one of them Freaknik type of things. So we went to one hotel, it was the only hotel, and we walked in and there was roaches in the hotel. And so, as good as we was, it was like, we gotta let you try this. How many roaches? It was roaches.

Oh, I know your roaches. It was from the project just can't do it. We get a little money at the time. It's me and Cabrón. So, we go downstairs. We got all our clothes on. That's why it reminded me of the story. We put all our clothes on.

I ain't even kidding. But we still had to shower. It was, we had no, so we had to go to sleep, wake up, take a shower, and keep it moving.

The road just left in the morning. But at night, it was day block. It was day block. We had to give it to them, right? That was one story. Now,

we getting money. I'm getting money, and a promoter, this is my man, Etienne, we're in Paris, and he tries to show me, he's like like I want to show you the view by me Why do that shit? I want to show you a real Atlanta night. No, I'm gonna fuck with O'shea and Buster St. Regis, I'm gonna go to St. Regis

Right fucking here in this area, nigga Don't leave out of 30327, we good Yo, this all fucked up the whole time But it was Paris, it was culture This was at the time I walked in and you know I used the bathroom And I heard Butch Robb But I knew I was on seven he was on two

that's my dj so I was like how the hell is that him so I'm using the bathroom by yo butch he's like yo I know I was seven he's on two I called the promoter I was like this is my I'm so sorry. I was like I'm all that. He's never did I think this doesn't mean nothing at this moment Now I'm in some crazy. I can hit and it is crazy. Let me tell my nigga play music is like I was there which Sorry, I was on down, but this is the same. I we went to the ground me Already been in the ground good. Yeah, I woke up with've already been in the grind. I'm good, man. I don't woke up, went to school, dead bodies in the creek. Like, I'm good. I was done past, I was past the grind part. And it was just one of those realizations like, yo, man, you got a lot of great shit going on.

I need you to remember where the fuck you came from. It was just one of those days. And I remembered it and I stayed in a luxury suite the next day. And I was back, I was fine. Easy. I'm good. Now, in my mind. Now, I don't want to see the real nothing, you know. I was back, I was fine. Easy. I'm good. Now, in my mind, you...

I don't want to see the real nothing of nothing, like, nah. You're past that. You've already done that. Right. Even when you're there, you don't want to see the real shit. You're like, I want to see this shit. What the fuck's wrong with you? Yeah, we grew out of that.

Yeah. We grew out of that. Right, exactly. Have you ever, like, met Michael Jackson? No. Crazy story I got for you, motherfucker. Please, let's go. I was ready for it. I got a fucking crazy story I got for you mother fuckers

Please let's go I was ready I got a fucking crazy story for you Do we do a shot before it? Crazy Or after? Hold up what we can do a shot of? I don't know If it's a good ball

If it's a Michael Jackson Nah man I'm not drinking that country ass shit no more And he has a bad man's crazy Huh? Don't punch your ass today going at me Okay so you can do the um um the uh I already got songs That I'm gonna get a damn couple

You don't wanna do a shot of that? Nah we got all of them Oh we can do a shot of all of them We gotta do it We gotta do it The minimum is three Hell no Um No, no, no. Cocaine? That's how we pass the job. Pass me your cup. Pass me your cup. Only our engineer. Only our engineer. We gotta do a line. Pass me your cup. We got the motherfucking line. What's the name of the cocaine?

Cocaine Dream. Can you pass me your cup? Wait, wait. Where's your cup at? I'm not in Miami. Where's your cup at? I can't wait. Minimum of two lines. Oh my God. And we in Miami. I know the dog is coach right now I'm gonna forget the fucking story But he met him, but he met him.

Oh, it's a lack of the wave. I think I just met Michael Jackson. Yeah, I need this Michael Jackson story. Ow. It's terrible, now you gotta drink that champagne, that champagne, to wash it down. So I'm gonna, ooh, I wasn't ready. What's this blue pill in here?

No, it ain't no blue pill, but let me know. It's Michael Jackson. It's a little face, it's a little face. Oh Let's get your sinuses right So I'm in Atlanta mm-hmm Mike is working I started I make I made love hate in um studio in Vegas at the palms every time when the palms was popping you remember yep and I had a certain type of magic there but Michael Jackson was working in the same studio you know some people knew some people didn't or whatever good friend of mine's Pat Thrall is there with Michael cutting a record just just cutting a record just just cutting a record I don't know what the record was you know now it's us on the phone yeah yeah I mean I don't know what I know that's not a part story

so Michael hits us back in Atlanta I mean not Michael Pat Thrall hits us back in Atlanta like yo yo bro and if you know this guy, such a sweet guy. Yo, bro, bro, bro. Guess who the fuck is in here? We're like, well, not me. So who the fuck is in here? Fucking Michael Jackson's in here right now. We're like, well, he recorded that motherfucker song. Cool.

That nigga's in the FaceTime or some shit. It's like, yo, bro, he's singing your shit right now listen. Oh shit I reckon this motherfucker Mike is in the background singing My new nigga And I never got a chance to meet him and I was so pissed He wasn't in me. No, I was in Atlanta. Okay Oh my god, I blew my mind. I was like, huh this motherfucking singing first of all, fuck that nigga. That's one So he's like he's not dancing the shit in my mind. I'm like, you know he's jamming out.

I'm like, oh, he doing all the shit in my shit right now. We finna get in. Fuck that bitch. Like, you know. But that was one of the, that was a great Michael moment for me

even though I didn't get a chance to work with him. But that was a great one. You know my Michael story? You got a Michael story? I never knew you had a Michael story. No, I ain't never met him. I ain't never called Coach, but this is what happened.

When Pharrell first did Superdub, my record came out, and Michael Jackson called Pharrell, and Pharrell made all this R&B shit for him, and maybe it's the same guy that you're talking about, because Pharrell and Pharrell made all this R&B shit for him. And maybe it's the same guy that you're talking about. Because Pharrell called me and said, yo, I just sent a whole bunch of beats to Michael.

He called us back. His manager called us back and said, I don't want this shit. I want the SuperDog shit. The Nori Egan shit. The shit you made for Nori Egan. And Pharrell's calling me like a good producer, and I'm not. You're on your own with that one. So back to my point.

So you look at a motherfucker, you're like, nah, they don't like this type of shit. Oh, nah, they like it. Yeah, it'd be crazy. They like it. Yeah, it's crazy. So now I'll do, but now you said, fuck that nigga, so how did you write that? What was in your moment? That's the offensive part.

That's pure rap offense that I think they're running plays for right now, still. They're like, okay, cool. We just put a little melody with this shit and fuck everybody. That record wasn't hard to write. That was the last record on the album, actually, that record. Yeah, I Love Your Girl. L.A. was like, yo, give me one more, and that was the one more. But the original is Fuck That Nigga. Oh, yeah, definitely.

What put you in that place? All the time. I mean, you know, when women look how they look and they man ain't doing what they supposed to be doing You know coming from that space You know, so he was like You had girls flipping on everybody in the club I'm just wanna throw that out there. Oh, it's like every time a girl was mad at a nigga in the club. They just kept Your shit came on

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Tell us I think it's just about Like being honest with And this is going to sound crazy But it's just about Nothing sounds crazy on here It's just the idea that At some particular point

Which is 99% of the day We all are whores for some particular reason. Like, that's just what it is. Okay, we need you to explain. I'm going to explain it. Okay, cool. There's something that you want and something that you're willing to give up to get it. You give it up something for something, yeah.

That's just life, like, period. You can classify it a different way all you want to, but, you know, there are certain that that still haven't came out where where i've used that analogy and then where we're just you know all holes we just out here trying to get out you know get out of shit but um being pure just isn't a part of it like i mean the idea that of the makeup bag itself whether it's a chanel bag this bag or whatever it that wasn't the point the point was what do you need me to do to make it right? Well, I can't make it right so we got to make a choice put That's all it is he was out here putting pressure on niggas the girl had to have a good make I put it all way at five stacks or so further. She had she had to have a great bag regular

Didn't just extra Dream so you can have a make up and My knee just now extra I'm gonna do tonight. This shit literally, we don't start callin' this shit gravy. Gravy? I mean, when you come back to this piece, that shit not as good as gravy. That shit still hurt. We up, daddy. That shit gonna hurt for the rest of the week. Forget about it. Oh, shit, yo.

Hold on. Take the call. Let's take a, put a live on the air. Yo, Ghazi, what's going on? Where you at? Hello? Hello? Oh, he's not.

Hello? No reception. That's the CEO from Empire Records. Yeah, I know Ghazi. Yeah, that's the way. He? No reception. That's the CEO from Empire Records. Yeah, I know Gazi. Yeah, he's a great guy. So, he's trying to come out here. So, you just announced the title of your new album.

You're Ali. Oh, they called that that quick? Mm-hmm. Oh. Mm-hmm. He's like, mm-hmm, we did. Yeah, I'm on point. Give it to Ali.

Then give me the phone back because I got my notes on there. So, what is the title? I'm on the fly. What is the title? I'm on point. Give it to Ali. Then give me the phone back because I got my notes on there. So what is the title? I'm hanging a client. What is the title? I had the title. I had the call. You fucked up. Love Affair. Love Affair.

Love Affair. It's kind of the end of the love sequels of- Full length album. They've already made full length. Everybody's been mad at me for like six years and I'm supposed to release it. Oh yeah, your fans have been waiting. You got the drop date? Yeah, I was supposed to drop in June on 2012, or 11 actually. And so, even though I gave them like about four records since then, they just like, nah nigga, where's that record at?

Like you realize it's not going to be the same record now. But finally, I've done it and it's about to come out. And who is this with? What do you mean? Label wise? Oh, Roc Nation. Roc Nation, Roc Nation direct. I mean, he rocking the chains.

Yeah. Yeah, he look like Roc Nation too. I have my rose gold shit on. I should have my rose gold shit to match. Let's be rose gold friends. But no, I'm glad I did wear my rose gold chains to match because you are clearly killing me. Oh no, no, no.

Don't look at me like that. No, no, no, that's good. That's okay. I love it. Oh, I couldn't give you I gotta step my shit up It's all good. How about I? Am proud of everybody doing it Like you this is why we gotta make a new word right Niggas like us is It's bougie, right? We like to eat at the good restaurants. We like to drive nice shit. But we hood.

So can we make hoogie? Hoogie? It's interesting. Let's go hoogie. We're gonna make the word up right now. I'm in your team. No, you're in the team. I'm still with a rubber watch.

You just bought a house. What type of events actually fit into hoogie? I'm gonna get team. No you Actually fit into who's you know, we gotta make it up right now dreamers. I'm saying this little bit So we doing right now. This is a collaboration. This is actually right now We gotta make up the meaning okay, who's you? we Spell whoogie first. Because all of us should be close to Hoogie. He was way smarter than me. I was definitely.

Yeah, you could have. It's any spelling. Him and Tia, I was in the same English class. It's any spelling. How dare you? It is any spelling. You got to spell Hoogie. Hoogie.

Is it H-O-O? Any spelling, it goes wherever you want it to go. Let's put Hugh in it. So let's go H-U-E. H-U-E for Hugh HeU-E for Hugh Hefner. For Hugh Hefner. For Hugh Hefner. We got to show respect to some people.

Hugh, like, color. Hugh. Okay, Hugh. Hugh, yeah. So it's Hood and Hugh Hefner. And color. And color. Got to mix a little color.

And then the G. You do Hugh Hefner? That's my boy. You got to go, because he hip hop like a motherfucker. He was the first. Yeah, come on. He was the first rapper ever. He was the first.

He shot the first like a motherfucker. He was the first rapper ever. Rest in peace if you haven't ever. He shot the first rap video ever. He was the first rap video ever, even though he had no rap plan. It was hip hop, nigga. I think you should say H-O-O. H-O-O? H-O-O? That's too close to Hooters and Hoosiers.

Yeah, that's going to hood. That's true. But who? This is a new version of hood. We've just said we've been to Paris. I think it's a nigga hood. That's true. But who, who, this is a new version of hood. We've just said we've been a pirate. I think it's a nigga saying this hood already. I think we're taking way much time out of this. This is beautiful, man.

We're making up English. H-O-O-G-E. Listen, you never know. We can make up this word in 200 years from now. This could be the guarantee word that people use all over the world. Yeah, exactly. I think it's H-U-E-Z-U-R. H-U-E-Z-E-R.

H-U-E-Z-U-R. You made it like a foreign language. I definitely ain't going to English class. I want that shit to look good on the t-shirt. It's not going to work. How do you know? Is it two different spellings? He made it Vietnamese, man.

That's hard. That's actually hard. That's actually hard. Thank you. He's a DJ. As an artist, yeah. I don't know what that's doing. Yeah, and graffiti, too.

Graffiti would look ill. Graffiti would look ill. If we make it a shirt, it would look ill. Who's he? Who's he? I just got a trademark, but go ahead. Hold on, hold on. I got it first.

I got it first. I'll keep that. Where's my phone? All right, cool. You got Gazi? What's an ancient? Who's he? Just got a trademark, but go ahead. Hold on, hold on, I got it first. I'll keep that one for you. Alright, cool. You got Gazi? What's it? H-U-E... Z-U-I. Who's he?

And it could be a clothing line too. That's my point. If you're not good at the t-shirt, this shit is crazy. This is a corporation, goddamnit. We just did this shit. I'm against it. We just did it. It's okay.

We did it. I'm doing my version. I'm putting that shit in a song. Let me just ask you something. Because this is an old school story from Drink Chefs. And the fact that he doesn't agree with my story right now, I have to bring it on. Wait, wait, wait. Uh-oh.

I have to bring it on. I'm going to go take a bathroom break right now. No, you stay. You got to stay right here. This is my man. All right? I'm petty as hell. Who is your man?

You. Oh. I'm petty as hell. Who is your man? You. Oh. I'm petty as hell. I admit I'm petty, right? This better not be the... It's going there. It's going there. That's stupid.

But, but, I don't know. It's going to be the thug song? Yes. Before he tells the story... You can tell the story. How about that? No, no, no. He tells it wrong.

Look what I got. I'll tell you. Before he tells the story, he always gets it wrong. He gets it wrong. It's a great vibe story that he tells. Here's the basics of the story. He's dating a girl. Okay.

I mean, yes, but... Well, you said wrong. It's wrong the way you tell it, but go on. I didn't say it. He's dating a girl, right? I can't believe this service is now, man. No, we got to bring back old shit sometimes. It's just old shit.

It's just... Because this is drink the fans wanting. It's bullshit. The drink is... So he's dating the girl, right? So the girl... Should we take a shot before? Yeah.

Yes. Yes. Let's pour the shot first. I'm going to give this to you. And we're going to drink it afterwards. Yeah, motherfucker. What are you drinking? You got grits to go with this?

Yes. No grits. I'm just fucking with you. I'm trying to live up. So listen, I want you to tell me if he's petty or not 100% I know I'm petty Okay, listen, all right, I'm just you a version. He just said one! No, so I can show how you fuck up my version. Okay, alright, listen. Alright, I'm just gonna make the shortest version ever. He's dating a girl. Mm-hmm. She goes to the thong song video.

Wrong. He cuts her off. Wrong. No, she went to Big Pippin first. Wrong. All of this is wrong. Something's wrong. Listen.

There's things that he's saying that are right. Okay. The chronological version doesn't matter which video. Okay, okay. As an artist, as an artist. No, no, no, the video. There's things he said are right The chronological person is wrong the only reason why he cut her all because he went to it no Okay He's patty. Just say he's patty. No, no, no. Let me tell my version. Are you going to allow my version? I want you to have your version. My version is this. My girl. She's an aspiring model. I love your girl. She's an aspiring model.

You can love her too. He killed it. He killed it. She's an aspiring model. She's an aspiring model. Yes. Okay. Yes.

And she tells me, I'm going to start doing video gigs. I'm an aspiring, I'm a DJ. Not an aspiring, I'm a DJ. I'm working, I'm doing my thing. We know we're going down. I see what's happening. What? Do you mean on film?

No. Oh, okay. In the world of music, period. Oh, okay. I see. I've been on video sets. So I said, you know what? I mean, but already at that point, we are going apart.

Period. Oh, that's how you do it. No, no, no. Let's go back to that. Because I'm going to tell you right now, when I say to her, you go pursue your dreams, I'm going to do my thing. Then it's not going to be that easy if we weren't already going apart. So she goes and I'm like, I'm not gonna be with her. You can't take this shot yet.

Wait, wait, let's go. Let's do it together. Let's do it together. Let's do it together. Because I want to know the first video that you said is it. It was like some ill shit. It was like the dawn song. No, I'm telling you.

It was real. Relax. It was real. I don't know about the other stuff. OK, OK. Let's go. That went down the wrong pipe. It was better than what I thought. Let me relax. Pause.

No, no. That was fine. You want some more champagne? Let me know. We should be longer over here. We got some rocks, some ultra premium vodka. The best vodka on the planet. I'm gonna fuck around and throw up on the stripper. No, no, no, don't do this. That would be amazing.

That would be amazing. So go ahead, E. What was the first video? Keep it real. You're okay, don't die. Nah, we've down the wrong pipe. So, we just broke up. You didn't break up.

He went to Thumbs Up. No, you're wrong. This is where he's wrong. And you said, that's it. Cisco got a baby. He keeps perpetuating the wrong bullshit. We broke up. But immediately when we broke up.

This is immediate. She did bell, bib, the bullshit. I'm a mixtape DJ in Miami. I'm the biggest mixtape DJ in Miami. I go, the Thong Song. I think it's a Thong Song remix. I'm not really 100% sure. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know got they invited me over there they said yo come get freestyle from red and meth I'm in the tent fat thong sponsored the tent good I got my four track and then I see That's how it's getting to me. days ago this is real video like next video was big It's fucking Ricky Martin mixing with you in a woke up video. She was in Uchi Wally with Nas in them too. Uchi Wally? Oh that was one of the worst ones. She was inspirational. The Christmas nigga took her down. Nobody took her down.

I'm still in love with her. I'm still in love with her. I'm Cuban. So you're like an artist. He's a DJ. He's a DJ that be sitting around seeing what the artists do when the artist is wild. Because any artist ain't wild. I mean, the difference between your story and my story is I saw that coming.

No disrespect to her. But I said, I can't handle that. Like, do you. I'm going to do me. And I'm not telling you that she went wild. I don't know. I don't know the facts. That's the whole point. I'm just saying I can't handle that But are you saying I can't be in the video shoots like that

Okay, that's a great story Why can't you wait cuz I want you to finish this story, story but this one I actually dream is he Dre don't you think I'm petty for one second yeah please dream you can be honest you can be this is an honest be this is an honest show This is an honest show think of the reality of what I'm talking about Just think that he wasn't willing to out fuck somebody for his girl Very different perspective. I was a kid. I was a kid. I'm not a fuck. I'm learn. Okay. Okay, you're right. I didn't fuck her up. I never looked at her like that. Whatever.

I never looked at her like that. Whatever. You coming home tonight, I bet that. Coming home to what? I'm a kid. I'm with my mom. How old are you? Down 42.

No, no, no, say at the time. 18, 17. Man, hey. That was Hennessy days. I'm a kid at the time. Hey, man. I'm second in behind sports authority in my car my partner react into that situation you coming up DJing your girl want to go to the dog song video. Did she want to do big pimping?

Wally come on man You wouldn't be in my position be like I'm not paying you my shit up. You know My position be like Together I'm going to go there and watch your ass. Go ahead. I got time for that. I got free stuff. Come on, let's get back up, girl. That's different. That's different. Could you deal with something like that with? I think I could. Yeah.

Yeah, I think I could. But you weren't doing what I was doing. I'm saying the difference is I'm a DJ, and I'm there, and I'm doing what I was doing, my work. She's going to do her work. I'm not there watching her and enjoying it if I would have been I would you would you date a boy yes listen You know what actually a fan recently showed me this video and it wasn't my girl. Yo Dre what you doing Dre? Yo girl K. Rowe you see this is on Instagram but still niggas know Dame was like this.

Bad, bad, bad. It wasn't her, it wasn't her. I know I'm just saying. You can handle that? I can handle that too but I know that makes me petty. There's a difference between me and him. I can handle it., but I know that makes me petty. There's a difference between me and him. I couldn't handle it I'm on the side

Well, I'm saying it's pretty because you didn't know she did that just because she's at a rap music video It doesn't make your petty is that I broke up. I think I think my pay would start way before that Well, my pay was like once I mean it like I'm good. I'll give a fuck like fuck Well, I can't fucking control people. Fuck it. Just be with it. Everybody just bust on it. Fuck it.

Right in the face. And then they got a couple of cool memes with that one. Hey man, just clean yourself up. Clean the shit out. Bring your ass home, you know. Furthermore, relax. Like I said, my penny, this was started earlier, and the idea that oh, I can't fuck with you You're out of my league from the beginning

She was never out of my league. Yeah, if daily she was. She definitely was not out of my league. I would dream on this one. Maybe she was a triple-a and went pro but she got that She wasn't a triple-a and went pro. I don't know where we went. Well this is triple-a I'm saying like triple-a baseball We went well this is triple a Okay But he's still petty. He's still petty, though. Because that was some petty shit you just said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll take it.

I'll take that one. Do you still, I mean, if anybody in this room don't think y'all petty, right? I'm not petty, but. I'm just saying, if you ever looked at somebody you ever, like, was what, or was cool with, and you looked at their gram just to make sure they are doing good not doing good that means you petty oh like if you was cool with somebody and they you stop fucking with over you stop with each other yeah and then somehow their Graham you know tag you they just look on it but they stay on the block I'm gonna tell you something because everybody has somebody but they look at they shit just to make

sure they still fucked up we know there's a great great penny there's a great great fucking pity as a yoga yoga these song. I love the fucking death. So Shut out the motherfucker. Yo, this motherfucker right now. He's on fucking fire. Oh This motherfucker. Yo, God, he says My ex cheated on me now. She working double shifts Petty as fuck. I love it His ex cheated on him now she was working double shifts like So she got with Elaine. She had to work more. Do you ever go on your ex-

ex-gram and just look and make sure she's still doing a dog zoom video? She's not cuz she's a family woman. She's a family woman. I was worried, cuz she's a family woman. I was like, Dad, she gonna hear this shit. It wasn't not too long ago Oh something never say

Dream good Talking shit Did you go through here? Thank you me Like you know I'm on her side I felt like she was a good girl that's trying to go work that's how she worked too much but yeah story gets ill right we've done a hundred episodes right of this shit right and this is probably in like 20, right? Okay, here's what a story gets this. I don't know because you took it out on hip-hop Cuz I didn't take it out the girl went to a hip-hop video

I'm so like a hip-hop, but the only person who had proof of her dating was Bell Bivett the phone One of them, not all three. God damn, that was a part of my episode. She dated Belle Biv and DeVoe. I'm sorry, which one of the niggas was it? Actually, you're right. Roddy, Bobby, Ricky, or Mike. I remember the dude. The skinny, long dude. So hold on, hold on. You know what's funny? Sorry, sorry.

The funny thing is that was the first thing that happened. What? You seen her with Bell Baby DeVoe? Actually, when we broke up and then I went to the club. What was it? Bell Baby DeVoe or New Edition? No, no. Well, that's New Edition.

Yeah, but it's two different eras of Star. No, come on, bro. I'm not that old. All right, so it was Bell Baby DeVoe. It's obvious. New Edition, she would have been fucking date right with her kid. Yo, we went to Fall Dream. Sorry. I Sorry you say stay away from that You know I'm not in VIP, but who do I see a VIP by ex-girl?

One of those dudes Ronnie. I think it was Ronnie. You know what? You know I just actually I think I got I dudes Ronnie I think it was Ronnie you know what you know I just actually I think I got I got to I solved it it was a pity it wasn't petty what you did it was emotional definitely emotional dream don't dream don't it wasn't petty it wasn't petty she went to go see all the hip- hopsters you got emotional It was emotional it wasn't petty like it's hip hop, you know the culture it is you lost something to the culture we all If you became a Republican right after that I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Oh, you went to their concert? You went to this motherfucking video? But the facts are that I did go to the club shortly after we broke up, and that's actually, you reminded me right now of that. And I look up at the VIP, and she's like,

Roddy, Chet, poison! I'm like, bitch! I couldn't hear. That's what happened. And then after that was actually the thong song and then after that was Uchi Wally and then after that I was like god damn. Now Uchi Wally, the thong song and Big Pippin, we gotta talk. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta, like we gotta, it's real.

I wish I heard this story back then I woulda wrote the shit out of this song. Yo, you can write this song. Nah, it's too old now. Nah, nah, it's a great song, it's all right that's all right all y'all what one was the most one to you that meant the most? Wow. The first one, love, hate, meant the most. And why is that? It was first. It was first. It introduced people to me.

I was blessed enough for people to hear and make my mind up because at that time, it wasn't about me being an artist and wanting to say, hey, man, look at me. It was a design. It was a design play

to put my music on Showcase. So the idea overall was, as a writer, even though you get a record over here, you get a record over there, that's cool, but how are they gonna know that you do other shit? How are they gonna know how deep it goes? Because once somebody gets something from you, motherfucker want an umbrella every time.

So I was able to be the canvas for my own art. And that's what it was about. Let me tell you something. That's the crazy shit is. What you just said is. The curse about having a hit record is everybody kind of want to imitate that record the most. Which is one of the most records that you wrote, produced, been a part of,

that people just kept coming to you and it became annoying? Like, I remember seeing Pharrell one time, and we had, what's the record, Homeboy. I came to party, and he had to tell me, he was like, yo, I'm tired of everybody telling me to give them that same record that I gave you, Normie. I think records are production-based when they come to that, though. I don't think people was more so asking me for the same song because at that time I had written so many different ones.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the tracks never really stayed the same. Those were changing, my lyrics was changing based on the emotional melodies or whatever the tone of the actual song was, who the artist is that's singing it, which was a whole other blessing to be able to give Rihanna something

and give B a whole separate thing. I think that was the biggest part of it all because most times somebody could do a song for one person, and the other song still sounds like, you know, if I didn't tell you I did Umbrella and Single Ladies, like, you wouldn't put it together. It doesn't sound the same. But you're producing also as well, like, literally, the beats.

What's the percentage of what you've done, the beats and lyrics? What do you mean? Like, just overall? And you wrote the music. Most people understand writing is also the beats. lyrics. What do you mean? Like, just overall? And you wrote the music. Most people understand writing is also the beats. Right. The layman doesn't know that.

Yeah, we know. So when you write lyrics and the beats... So, like, Holy Girl, for instance, I did the track and wrote the hook. And then I gave it to Hov.

And then we brought in Timbaland to make the track what it needs to be. Add to your production. Yeah, because my idea of writing is exactly what it is in the country world. Those songs are 100% written. It's not a beat producer. The producer usually has nothing to do with the composition itself.

It has nothing to do with the melodies, the top lines, the lyric. It has nothing to do with that. The writer can be the writer and a producer can come in after that. It's like Quincy Jones, you know, some of those, he didn't do the track. That track shit came from hip hop. Right, but that's the thing. That's the thing. Hip hop wise, when we think about producer, we think about the beat maker.

He goes like this. Right. And then we think about the writer, he's writing the lyrics. Right. So that's what I'm saying, that the difference for you. Well, I mean, it's writing the lyrics. Right. So that's what I'm saying, that the difference for you. Well, I mean, it's just a universe. It's only in this culture where we see that as two

different things. For me, producer is actually what it's always been. It's the motherfucker that you blame at the end when shit don't go right. He brings everything together. Yeah, so if I don't have the touch of fucking beat, but I'll probably steal the producer just because you did that shit with me and if the shit ain't

right it's like dream fuck this up because to produce means to come up with right okay how you came up with it go up with it ain't right none of it ain't do the track I produced it though no I'm good'm good. I got my whole look you got us a guy already. Well that too, but actually where's my crib? Join you got White girls Oh shit, I got like creepy white boys. God damn it. White girls? It's only white girl I'm allowed to touch. Oh.

Chi Chi, get the A. Hold on a second. My mama. Go ahead, go ahead. Where you going? I feel like we're gonna have cryptocurrency. No, I got no such thing. I'm trying to get better at what I do them

I don't know what so when you produce and joints. Yeah, are you using any certain? Like machines. Yeah, it's the NPC. I'm still in love the NPC 3000 I am on logic and you know able to knock it I can move around anything I like that. I like to touch it though I don't like the idea that everything Is in a computer or whatever it is like I'll go To a studio just because they have a big ass board Yeah oh well I've been

Playing I started playing trumpet in like third grade So the whole Band theory to me was just Second nature like it was just Something that we did In high school and then at that time If you were in Atlanta, the cool shit wasn't to be on the basketball team and the football team.

The cool shit was being in the marching band because you got to show your ass at halftime. That was literally the shit. And at that time, you had Florida Marching 100, Florida A&M. You had Jackson. You had all these black colleges. We were putting tapes in. Actually, my best friend was putting tapes in,

studying what they're doing at halftime, what's the new record that's out, and being able to play that at the next football game. Oh, shit. So for me, it wasn't music as a hustle. I was already doing it before I understood that you can make money from it. Now, one of the most things I respected about you,

I had to have to hit my my man Ron Marksman to send me a play. You want to know more about Drake? So we got Genius Community member, Shy Hank, his question is, what was it like working with Drake early on in his career on Shut It Down and why haven't you worked together since? There it is. There it is. There it is.

No, shout out to Drake and what he's done with his career. Like I said before, I'm just like a real student of how these things go. And I remember when Drake was putting this record together, I was getting calls after calls after calls, like, yo, get on this record, get on this record, like, yo, get on this record. I said, I'm going to do the record, man like I'm on tour late I'm gonna do the record as soon as I get to the place I'm gonna do it Drake called like yo like this is how I wanted to sound like Drake I'm gonna do this record how I'm gonna do it right I'm gonna give it back to you the same

way you said that with your first song like I'm gonna send it back to you say okay cool no problem and the record came out great you know I think gonna send it back to you. He was like, okay, cool, no problem. And the record came out great. You know, I think, you know, it came out great. What a lot of people do. Yeah, it came out great. I think when the next album came along, since somebody wants to know why we never worked again, I asked him to get on the record,

and he never got on the record. And so I'm only going to ask you once, especially if I've already done something for you. So that went through to his people, directly to him and whatever that, So I'm only going to ask you once, especially if I've already done something for you. So that went through to his people, directly to him, and whatever that thing was, then that was it. So that's the end of the drink and dream era of a record. I mean, obviously, amazing artist you are. He's a great artist. In his own right, collaborations are nice and collaborations are great. And sometimes artists can just be great without each other.

Yes. Now, that's morals. Yeah. That's like old school morals right there. Like I've done so many records with people and then they not reciprocated the favor of that. So it's the most treacherous thing that can happen. But I forgave them. Oh, well, of course.

But so what was going through your mind at that moment when you, because at the end of the day, sometimes you could give a person a wave. That's what that means. Like, you can be so hot yourself that when you get on a record, they can build a whole audience around your audience that you helped introduce them to. And then that person, I'm an artist, I'm 100%. I didn't look at that as a distance drink at all. There's no way, shape, form, or fashion. I looked at it as a person with morals.

Yeah. So. I mean, that's, it was, I had to go to my grave with that. Like, not because it's a personal thing. Right. Just because I have to still set an example for the shit that I say that I'm going to do. Mm-hmm. You know, like, it's a lot of, if I ain't do some shit

that I wasn't supposed to do, call me out, let me know. Because it may, it could have been, I forgot, it could have been, you know, whatever it is, it doesn't make it right at the end of the day because that's not where I come from, that's not how I was raised, that's not how I am. You know, like, my word is just my word. However,

I need to make it up, you know, however, whatever it is that I need to do. So, and at the time, I mean, the whole situation was forgiven because the shit is petty. Like, it would be petty, you know, in a way to hold that against somebody or whatever it was going through and transforming his own life at the time. Right, exactly. I just, I know probably as you get older, you start to think about things a little bit different though And say oh shit now. I get why XYZ yeah, we've seen each other He's recorded at my studio in Atlanta and everything like and like yo, what's up like you?

This is cool to be good interview or or since just like literally before that but after after you know What was what was up like all our camps this music business isn't that far stretched apart where nobody doesn't know what the fuck

is going on like everybody knows what's going on and for whatever reasons at the end of the day and niggas know how I am

I'm not I'm not I'm not a bitter person I think most things if you can control them control them what you can't you don't

like don't worry about it just move the fuck on. So it wasn't no ill-fated thing about that. It was more so about what my grandfather taught me. Like, yo, man, you say you're going to do something, you need to do it. And if you don't, you need to show somebody you can live without it.

You know, and that's just where I am and just where I come from. That was hard. That was hard. You know what that said?'s that's just where i am and just where i come from that was all that was all you know what that said you got old school morals you got the morals that i got and it is petty too but listen because when somebody in front of me i never forget it like i almost i'm just being honest petty gang mafia petty gang i got I'm waiting Listen I'm I'm not

I'm not really I'm more I'm not really petty In none of the sense of that Because people go through Certain shit And everybody doesn't know What you know

And everybody doesn't know What you know And how to react To what you know At that time They haven't learned it yet Like it doesn't make you grown Just because you have more money

Than the other person Or oh I'm more experienced because like, no motherfuckers, I got the experience. Like, I'm the motherfucker that's in the music business that didn't break till he was 30, and that had a regular job with regular people in real traffic and shit. So when the bigger percentages of the artists that work in this business were able to drop what they did

and start working in it at 16, 17. I'm like, well, 15, I lost my mom. And 19, I lost my grandfather. So the parents that raised me, I had to go completely to the workforce and get here. It wasn't because I knew some niggas down the street and I got on, you know, that's not, I had to split that time. I had to sleep two hours a day for years. They only off two hours

to the point now I can't even go to sleep. You know, so it's, Fuck going to sleep. Well, no, I want to go

to fucking sleep. I be fucking trying. It just don't work. Now, the difference between what you're saying and what I'm saying is sometimes

you deal with an artist's management or you deal with, And that's the problem though it's different right and so now I can understand that point but if I ever dealt

with you directly and there was a phone call with me and you I do take it way personal more than I should have and you should you know what I'm saying because I don't care

what I do in life like if you tell me something and we have a bond if we don't have a bond I don't give a fuck right like I don't care what I do in life. Like, if you tell me something and we have a bond. If we don't have a bond, I don't give a fuck. Right. Like, I don't care if we don't have a bond. But if you give me, I have a bond, and you tell me something, I expect you to deliver. Because I'm going to deliver on my part of whatever you ask me.

I'm so in love with the idea of knowledge. I'd rather sacrifice myself and how I feel about somebody or whether I'm mad at them or not. If they were just to learn it from whatever aspect they learned it from and just, you know, wrap it back around and just say, oh, cool. I learned that shit that you were saying to me or what we went through. I'm more in love with that than I am about being hasty and just venomous for no reason because it doesn't make any sense. Like to be in love with knowledge is a whole different idea you know but to watch another

person learn something versus spiting them like I'd rather you just know like even if you did it to me and I'm like you fucked me up because we like 40 fucking G's but you understand what the fuck happened and you can go on in life and do the next shit because I'm blessed enough to be able to rebound after that.

If I wasn't, it may be a different story. That's enough for 40 Gs to be good. Forgiving. That's blessed, though. That's for someone to be able to do that with 40 Gs. Of course. Killing something. You got to relax.

I think he's still thinking about his girl right now. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. This is what we do, man. Dream. I don't know if you understand. This is Dream Champs. We've been doing this.

We recently celebrated our 100th episode, right? We're still celebrating our 100th episode. We're still celebrating because, you know, this is the first time people that are a part of the artistry, a part of the culture. From a DJ, a mixtape DJ, a regular DJ, to an artist. I'm searching out and going. I wanted to control our own media. I wanted us to support us. You know what I mean?

When you hear even the 444 album and you hear Jay talk about, like, you know, it's like, that's what the time is for. Yeah. That's what the time is for. So in a weird way, you're doing that, like, whether you was conscious or unconscious of it, I just see on the internet, Google, and it said your album, and I'm hopefully, this is the first interview that you did. You didn't even know that, right?

I didn't know. I mean, you were on Revolt, so we would get, I mean, you were at the Revolt conference, so you know, everything right around. But this is what we do over here. But we also have fun with our artists, right? And we also say that, so we have to actually dream, just dreamy ass.

Oh, of course. All right, damn, you answered that right. No hesitation. No hesitation. No hesitation. He tipped some, I got that. No hesitation. He tipped him. I got that to the ass. What kind of fucking question is that?

He's like, I didn't even ask a question. Where Twin at? Where Twin at? Let's come over here, Twin. Come over here. This is asking the gang. Listen, man. He got into an accident, but he's still out here running the things. Come on, Hazz, give him the mic. Set the mic up for him, Haz.

Come on. This is Twin, Eddie the Ass Eater. This is Eddie the Ass Eater, the student. We have a person on our show called Eddie the Ass Eater, and he didn't make it today, but this is Twin. Twin, tell him what's going on. Radio Killer. Hey!

Radio Killer. Yeah, yeah. This is ass eating. He's like, is Eddie the ass eater? He was at the top of the thing. You gotta try that shit with your faces in the ass, dog. Like, man, I'm not. That's all he do now. He dunk up there. He's all over that. I'm a professional now, son. You a professional, Mattel? Yeah, dog.

You gotta fuck with the clit and all that shit at the same time. You know what I'm saying? Oh my god. The clit while you're eating the ass? God damn. I Didn't know you a professional ass either the way you described it you looked at him like When 20 recently had an accident he's been on drink chances day one. We love this guy. I still got my I'm good you got you And you know 50 cent don't even drink 50 therefore I'm gonna throw that out there we got a represent for the R&B world I'm just throwing it out there. There's some RV people so we're gonna be I need to eat ass tonight and this ain't gonna help. No it won't! It's gonna taste like fucking iron football! You don't know what I'm talking about! First of all, there's too many guys saying this at the same time.

No, okay, okay. Good vibes! Come on up two more. Listen. Everybody on that call, that shit good, dog. Now I'm wondering why y'all trying to get me fucking drunk. Listen, listen. You gotta relax, man.

You gotta relax. You know I'm from the hood, motherfucker. I'm like, get me fucking drunk Fucking party party Yo, this is what's weird Twin man hashtag my first time be dude here Yeah, good good Thank you for so much. We're just a weekend Twin, we want you to know that we love you. And Dream, we want you to know that everything you did for this culture, every time you went in there and made women, you know, love men.

And every time you make- And look, I'ma take this shot and I gotta ask you. Wait, wait, wait. I gotta ask you. Hey, Dream, you killed that VH1 sign shit. My nigga had me scared too, man. What we doing? Hey, dawg, I fell for Timbass, man. That's the gift. I I'm sorry Do we take this out yet? No, let's go. Let's go dream. Okay. Let's go dream shit solo solo solo

I Don't want to drink it. All right. Yo, that drink Do you make love to your own shit? Oh That was hard It's just so bad. I just want to see if that fire shit gonna come out of my mouth when I do that shit that's it come on that's pretty funny you know you very smart too you very smart too come on man y'all gotta keep up but listen listen do you make love to your own shit cause that's some real shit right there no I just played it I just played um the track by

itself and then sing on top of oh you killed that I just put the instrumentals in, they go from love to love to love. It's a live performance. Love first to money, I always do. All right, so what's your go-to song to sing? Go-to song to sing? Fancy. Oh, with Swiss, that's not. Oh, you know, oh, nigga, you're not a fancy nigga. Oh, no, please put me on. I just told you, Hoosie.

Hoosie? We just described the Hoosie. No, please. I need you to play F now. Well, come on We don't play music Come on, brother. Come with it. It's expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, congratulations, my niggas. No, no. I owe my master, so I can clear it. Oh, my lord.

Got that. Oh. I'm sorry. That was a stunt. That was the ambassador. That was a real stunt. That was a flaw. That was a real flaw. Let's head past that.

I feel like we should light a candle. I'm mad at you right now. I've never heard this one. I'm mad at myself as a Dream fan. But let it drop though, let it drop first. I'm trying, I'm trying. Man, I've never heard this one before. It's the only one. As a Dream Fan, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed.

I've never heard this one before. You gotta smoke a blunt to make up for me. Look at that. Guys, what's up guys? I'm fishing in your way for nothing. Can't hold it for long. Dreams are amazing. I'm in a sleeper. Okay, okay. Okay, come on.

Hold on. Listen. And dreams. Dreams. Trips to Monaco. Ooh. Oh, nigga. Design the names from head to toe.

Uh. Give me high five, nigga. We can keep going. Listen, by the way. What the fuck just happened? Oh He's probably the only guy that when they hit me this I said, yo I want dreams of the podcast and then they said dream with the department. That's also one dream to a record You only make if you got a hundred and five ever so good. We happy Episodes out right five I do the only nigga I gotta have a dream record now. How would you do a noriega record? Let's just describe that right we got Empire to build it. Let's how would describe a noriega?

Like what do we gotta go? Let me give you my gear you some notes I got so many male fans Fucking up. That right now. Let me give you some notes. I got too many male fans. He's fucking up. He's crazy. I got too many male fans. Keep going. I'm hearing you. Tell me your story. Too many male fans. It's a problem.

I need more female fans. I don't know where you're going. I like it. I don't like it. You gotta scratch it, scratch it here, man. Come on. That's a horrible scratch. That's too easy. That was too easy to make.

Now we going club? I know where you're drinking. Are we going club? See, I can tell when niggas have damn tube up. We dunked right about the goddamn club. Yeah, tell me how this will go down. Let's just make the motherfuckers. Just how you feel.

Like who, just how you feel. Couple of lines, it's flowing. Which moment you gonna be in again? Bad lines with cocaine hands. You getting ready to go out? Cocaine hands and what? Let's just make the motherfucker Don't you feel like who just how much more would you be? Okay, as a provider you get ready guys three phases to the fucking song this is it This is it get ready to go out song You're out song

Hey back home song Three different songs those three different songs the RV so setting. Could there never be one song for all of that? This is so genius. It can, but it's not really, you know what I'm saying? You can kind of smooth one end to the other, like you can. Right. But when you get back to the house, that song usually belongs to me. Oh.

Oh. Turn down. And if it don't, you last like 33 seconds. I can't do nothing about that. Because Fancy is six minutes and 40 seconds at 47 seconds long the last night you spoke the blood a Blood but I just do I just do that The whites, you know, so right, huh? Yeah

No Don't smoke books. Yeah, this is in my insurance, there's a little thing that has a policy thing that says cigarettes, which has nothing to do with the white paper on, but it's tobacco. Oh, yeah. And I would, if I, you know, something happens to me, I would love my kids to get that $86 million versus saying that he was smoking tobacco. I filled out my insurance the same way as he takes tests in school. I had a system.

Yes, no, yes, no. You did the Christmas tree? Do yourself. Yes, no, yes. No, no, I was just snowed in. But everywhere else, I had a system. You, you, no. I was a foul guy.

I'm sorry. In school. It was different. I'm sorry. You guys are. You know what they do, man. He was like, so I don't. He was about to show up at the goddamn funeral and shit. Like, well, he was leading a bad life. He was smoking tobacco. do, man. I'm this much sick, so I don't love this. He's my brother to show up at the goddamn funeral and shit.

Like, well, he was leading a bad life. He was smoking tobacco. No, no. We seen him on the show. Nah, you're going to live forever. Just so everybody know, I ain't smoke shit. Listen, listen. You know why you're going to live forever?

Because hip-hop and R&B, like, you know, and like the legends, sometimes we just live forever. Like, them niggas in England. Them niggas in England is 900. What? They all like 900. They like 900. Which public is in England? Like them niggas, I don't know, all the rock groups from England.

Oh, okay. And like hip hop is like the new rock. Paul McCartney. Yeah, like he 900. 900, easy. He lived with it. He lived with it. He lived with Tyrannosaurus Rex.

Except John Lennon didn't make it to 900. Oh, damn. I forgot about him. But you took a focus on one person. There's all of them other niggas out there. I see that this alcohol is affecting you. No, it's not affecting me at all. I really love it.

I know. And I love my job. I just wanted to make sure what it was going to do. No, I was doing what it was going to do. Ultimately, my wife has to pay the price for this, but she'll be fine. No, she's great. She's great. I love my job. I just want to make sure that what it was going to do because no I know I still ultimately My wife has to pay the price of this, but should be fine. No she's great. She's great and Listen you you always have your relationships in public

Excellent see somebody finally said the shit does look like thinking that shit all the time drink Like I like you you ain't petty at all I zero and and you even just did a record with our top dollar signs and way actually I've done like four records on Wayne's new album the new well the car to five mm-hmm and I think that's the most un-Petty as you can be. Let's make some motherfucking noise. Let's make some noise. You all right, you all.

I done accepted you in the Petty Gang, and I gotta release you. I'm sorry. I signed them and had them release them. I'm sorry. That is a real grown man shit. It's like, yo, people in relationships have nothing to do with relationships. You, whatever.

And you tied all the songs away. I saw that. I thought there was... We're all just people. Right. And I think in the end, especially in this culture, we're not like this. This isn't us. It's not in us to be this way. This country's kind of made us a certain type of isn't us. It's not in us to be this way.

This country's kind of made us a certain type of way, but it's just not in us to be that way. I think we're giving when we can give, and nobody shies away from a moment to be a hero. It's just less and less of those times that we get to become one or that is seen or that is celebrated. You know, like nobody wakes up if there's a kid in front of a car that doesn't want to push the kid out of the way, you know, to save their life. You know, like nobody wakes up if there's a kid in front of a car doesn't want to push

the kid out the way, you know, to save their life, you know, even if it means ending your own. So, there's a hero part to it,

you know, that I think exists in the culture. We just don't get to prove it often enough. Or it's not shown often enough either. Man,

it's not shown, true. Goddammit, Dream. Man, I tried to, I had to try to prove it in a pretty game. He done broke out of it. Broke out? it, Dream. Man, I had to try to put him in a pretty game.

He done broke out of it. Broke out. Yo, man. Broke out. Man, listen, we got to salute you more, Dream. We got to this culture, not just hip-hop, R&B, everything. Because you're one of the greats. Do you recognize yourself as one of the greats?

Not yet. Why? i got so much more that's a good answer that's a great that's a good answer that's a great answer much more so where did where where do you want to what what is dreams i ultimately want these songs that are right for three minutes and 30 seconds to last for about an hour and a half so that's what you know I'm a dyslexic and I was only in resource not here so I want these songs of three minutes and 30 seconds to last for hour and 30 minutes so I just want to take those short stories the hardest thing to do is to put a fucking story in a minute and 30 you'll make a movie I'll just be able to elaborate 30 minutes. I mean, through your music. I want to just be able to elaborate for an hour and a half.

Those are treatments. Each song is a treatment. Because you don't have to cut out the details. It's like, oh, I get to detail this shit. If I was writing a fucking short about me and fucking Nori right now, I'd get the details of what the fuck we going through today. He leads here, leads here, and who better than a writer that's doing these types of things?

I'm gonna post you. Just keep creating the picture. I love it. Please Just keep paying the picture I love it We go meet in the studio, but the truth is we never actually gonna make it to the studio So we It's been this whole day trying to get to the fucking studio to do a fucking song. Okay, that's the video. But it just never happens. So it's like... It never happens. Sorry. No, no, no.

You didn't get the record. No, no. In the video. In the movie. In the short film. In the short film. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen in real life. You know, that's kind of the point.

Okay. The idea of it, though, is just trying so hard. And when you really try to grip tight to do something, the shit never comes out right. When you try your hardest to get it right. So you start out of the day trying to get the move right. You go by a pound from so and so over there, you get your blood. This shit ain't going right. Get pulled over, you have to flush your shit. You're like, oh fuck, I gotta go back and do this shit. Your day is long. My day is long. I got R&B shit. Try to get one bitch out, get another bitch in.

I'm like, yeah, we're going to be in the studio. Time's already fucked up. We fucking it up. But we're trying too hard to make the situation right and make the right record.

But have you written a treatment? Have you written the treatment? No, I'm writing it right now. No, I'm saying, I know you are.

Before, yes. No, you know, my next question was, have you ever gave somebody a record and they came back with the worst video? treat Oh That's the people over there too

They said it in unison. Yeah, they they were all down together. He had the vision Fans decide what video they like what video you was so mad at? You know I'm not telling you that. I know, I know. I know I don't want to tell you that. No, tell me. Just tell him. Yeah, nobody listening.

I can't see it. But there has been times where you're like, you know, you grow a hefty appetite when Umbrella is the video that comes back on your song and your song high you like oh fuck yes yeah and then somebody goes down from there use off fuck fuck my song up the fuck why were you there in a swamp doing my fucking song that's definitely say on the beach it's a clue that's why I said swamp because I haven't there's no videos in this one. There is no clue. He's very smart We're not getting them. No way But that would be crazy that we offered if somebody had to be like this we wouldn't do that we protect you yeah appreciate you got you know I'll protect me up

so now what's your favorite liquor this is drink champs we drink with the favorite liquor so right ahead no all to all anything or the process to write a process what is it like what yeah well back in the day was patrol now is Delio that's a great let's make some noise what to see I noticed that people that drink tequila, those are people that drink tequila. Tequila, bro. So for people that drink tequila, that's straight down to the bottom. Because you can't just drink tequila and be cool. Depends on the tequila, though.

So what I'm saying is, how could you drink tequila and write these amazing lyrics? Oh, no. I didn't need to drink to write or smoke Oh, oh you could you know no this shit is then purely a celebration of what the fuck's been done Yeah, I can't summer chair. I'm like high already when I wake up I'm not I don't need anything that that actually just slows me the fuck down That's what we are I can't right I can't write shit without no marijuana okay I don't you know I'm a drink you you're so sober change I don't write

vocals I don't drink right but when I actually write the vocals I'll drink all day and I'll be I'll be like I'll be by myself I don't be around nobody but I just sit there but to lay them I will not drink. Haz is the engineer, you know, right? I don't drink. And sometimes when I drink, the reason why, when I drink, I gotta lay it back. I gotta redo the vocals so many times that it's just not worth it.

I just, I'll have all the liquor in the studio, haz, I'm alive, and then I'll do it, I'll lay it sober, and then we get fucked up. Well, I didn't drink or smoke until I was 30. Wow. Drink or smoke. Yeah. There was a pact that I made with myself and I was just like,

I'm not drinking or smoking until I got a million dollars. So that's when I first. Son fucking death. Whoa. Yo, listen. For some of us. He didn't drink or smoke. He made a million dollars.

That is hard. That is hard. I was trying to motivate... I don't even want to say who I was trying to motivate earlier. I was trying to motivate...but damn I should have used something like that. What the fuck? That was hard. You know, Diallo V, he still want to fight the system oh yeah oh my

god that killed they threw off my case I said they throw out the case cuz they think you crazy thank you crazy you motherfucker like and he's like I want to sue them now you're lucky don't go back into the swamp with an alligator just at all I knew so what's your favorite moment in music period all around 95 MTV Music Awards with Michael did it was you what do we do this is the first thing I'm just asking What do you do you know fucking my came back gonna goddamn moonwalking 95 That whole fucking medley that lasted like 40 fucking minutes and there was like no commercial break Yeah for Michael he had been gone and he left he did blood on the dance boy did all this shit he's over here fucking with whatever fuck he was doing and that was the first time we really saw him covers like yo Mike's gonna be

on here we got ready all week for that shit oh shit Mike finna come out and make a dis move criminalist shit came back oh shit Mike's got crazy. That's the first time what was introduced no He missed a fucking step motherfucking Mike amazing fucking step. Motherfucking Mike. Amazing little moment. You ever met Prince? No, man. Wonderful story with him. You got another story with Prince? You ain't got a Prince story.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, tell us the Prince story. I love Prince to death, man. He rest in peace, but I gotta get you in. Oh, this is a good one. This is a good one. So, I was doing this record with Mary J. Blige and it has that Prince vibe to it so So at the time I was just like alright cool

We go get it over to Prince, you know, like let him take a stab at it do a couple things Easy, that's a lot like that Play a little bit of blah blah blah, you know do a little thing And of course he's like yeah, you know I do whatever y'all need me to do so They send the record over to him and shit and I'm just actually just saying what I think the conversation went. So they sent the record to Prince. Prince sends the record back and shit. He didn't sing none of the parts that Mary wanted him to sing.

But he's like playing all the track and shit, going crazy. Like just going crazy and shit. But in a Prince type of way Lay to death like I said But So Mary hears me She's like Yo man See

See if I can Prince the fucking record man He's just playing all over the shit man Like Like how do I talk to him I'm like Shit man That's fucking Prince

I don't know What the fuck The fuck you gonna say Like you gotta take the L dog We both do Cause y'all use those parts Dog Fucking Brits Yeah, I don't even think we put the So so so she she hits him she got the curse like, you know a dream I'm just gonna call him. I'm gonna call him up. I'm gonna call him right now. Call you back. All right Mary is on the phone me. Yeah, I guess he's right now. Call you back. All right, cool. Mary gets off the phone with me.

Y'all don't fucking follow. I guess she's calling Prince. And this is kind of how that shit had to go. She's like, Prince? Yeah, what's up? I got the record back, but I just wanted you

to do this one part of me and just sing a little bit and just play a little bit at the end. What, you don't like it? No, it's not really that I don't like it. I'm just saying, I mean, because we was over in this bitch jamming like a motherfucker. That literally was the government. Oh, we in this bitch jamming like a motherfucker. Like, they playing your shit in the back, and it sounds good to them.

Fuck what you said. Man, she told me that shit. I just fucking fell out of the floor and died. I was like, I told you, fucking Prince. Like, what the fuck you thought was going to happen? Yeah, I could never. Just don't call Prince. Just leave him alone.

Cool, whatever you want to do, dog. We'll just straighten that shit up later. Now, you ever had one of those in the session with you where you worked with somebody you looked up to, and they fucking up, and you got to be like, yo, can you change that? You got to hold that, though. You got to hold that. Because me, I'll tell you, I'm a sucker. Come on, like, shit good.

This type of nigga I am, I'm like, I ain't going to tell him it ain't good. No, I do. But you a producer. No, no, no. You a writer. I do a catch and release. I have no idea what you're saying. Catch and release.

The catch and release is when you've done this shit so long with some motherfuckers that's just gifted. Don't tell them nothing wrong with their song. No, I'm talking about actually making a song. Yeah. When you're making a song Even if they're doing something that's not to your liking right and you're in there with a great motherfucker Don't say shit So you know I did oh

Now I didn't know you learn it no you just you just Hey, that's how you feel it. Oh shit. All right, cool. Because there ain't nobody being bad. Well, motherfuckers is great. They great. Sometimes they can just be doing something. It's not great in that moment for you. You can do this. No, not like that.

Just in a way, maybe a delivery or something. Like, you should have been a little bit softer on it. But it ain't critique time as soon as they leave. You have to just, all right, cool. I'm going. Go shopping real quick. Go to Bird, go for good. Give me a couple things

Come back By the time you get back They're so fucking great The great ones are so fucking great They've already answered They fucking question And in your head you're like Thank God

And you have to bring that shit up And they come back Right because they're great That's how they fucking got there They already They're already picking at themselves At a point In a certain type of way

That you can never Pick their shit apart You can't tell Fucking Beyonce Something like It's fucked up Like she knows What she knows

What to do You know Like so you can't You just have to give them You know anybody That time That's great And they'll come back

To their own shit And say I think I can do that hook Like this I think that would be better. And in your mind, you're just like, thank God. I ain't have to say nothing about that. And when they need your fucking input,

they'll ask you the great ones, dude. It's them motherfuckers in the middle. You can't tell them motherfucking shit. And they don't correct nothing. I think this shit dope. Like, all right, it's dope enough for number 198 on them goddamn charts. But whatever you say, bet.

I'm with you. Let me get my money up front. Have you ever been wrong? Have you ever gave advice and you was wrong? I'm wrong all the time. Oh, yeah? I'm more right than wrong, though. I'm like 95%.

What's something you was wrong on? Like an artist wanted to work with you or something like that? I'm never wrong on that type of shit. I was just saying in life in general. Okay. Yeah it's music. Yeah, I got this you know a lot. Yeah, let's make some noise for that Okay, what's a cigarette break down the bathroom break real quick you cool and then we get like five more minutes and then we good. Damn, y'all got no fucking bathroom breaks this year? I ain't gonna lie. We take bathroom breaks this year. I ain't gonna lie. It's part of the city plan and shit.

You know you gotta at least take one bathroom. No more modelos? No. No. Here's the background. So, you know, this is like a new part of the show that I'm gonna implement. Oh, you're not even gonna run it by me, bro? Nah, this is...

You know y'all never run shit by me. You, Ali, they all have conversations. But no, this is the part. I'm just saying this is going to work. I pulled up one of your tweets, right? You says, ask your favorites how many times they played me before the inspiration kicked in. Then you tagged in Meek Mill and you said it, and then you say, said it best, Jimmy Fallon.

Dream, you don't. What did that tweet mean? Me and my brother Meek just did a record on Fallon maybe like a month and a half, two months ago. Young Black America.

And I'm walking in and let's just two months ago. Mm-hmm. Young Black America. Mm-hmm. And I'm walking in, and let's just say he has a certain thing that he did. He's like, yo, man, I was, you know, I was,

that I was talking to him. That Meek did. Yeah, yeah. Meek has a certain, you know, he has his Dream Chasers logo, and I got my logo, which is Radio Killer Records,

which is the whole Rolls Royce thing. And I get ready to walk in. He's like, actually, you was first to that one. He's like, but I put that shit on blast, so everybody's seen it. He's like, you know what your problem is? Who's saying you know what your problem is? Me.

Me's telling me. He's like, you know what your problem is? He's like, you don't put enough light on it. He's like, so when you do shit, nobody really knows. He's like, you don't talk about that shit like how you need to talk about it. So that motherfuckers know that certain shit came from you. And I stopped for like two seconds. I was like, this motherfucker's right.

And I don't. And that's probably more leaning to the unartist part about me you know um and there's nothing that I would change about that particular thing I mean you know at this particular point once you once you're famous you're famous like there's no in between I don't believe in in between like you know take the bullshit as it amounts in dollars. And it is what it is. But go all the way. Like, don't stop or don't cut something short or make something half-ass or do it half as it could be done, you know, if you're scattered at light.

Like, run all the way to the light. You started running there in the first place. And he just in one quick second reminded me, Oh, mr. Oh, gee me like yo You don't put enough light on that shit. You gotta start talking that shit You know cuz I'm good at talking shit But that shit certain for that shit drink at a certain point. It was more so I was talking to myself So what did you adjust after he said that? What did you adjust? I'm just doing certain shit and showing certain shit now. It's just

I'm just gaining a better perspective of inspiring others and when there's a line that they both intersect it's like be humble with what you have but also you can be so humble that you seem silent about certain things

You know versus inspiring somebody else to say, you know Cuz only only gifted and motherfuckers that believe in itself go take it the right way anyway so now it's just a point of doing shit to a certain point that makes somebody say That motherfuckers roll around this bitch in that fucking ghost like it ain't nothing they got 99 cars like and feel okay with like it ain't about me not being humble like i know where the fuck i came from i know where my ancestors came from i know more about my tree and the slave ships that dropped us off in south carolina than anybody like i know about it so i know exactly what it is so i have to I didn't have to convince

myself but I had to just believe that and say whatever you do have is an attestment of of of is a testament to hard work and and being able to to to persevere through anything and the real people that feel good inside themselves they're're going to feel like that. They're going to feel like, yo. You persevered. You need some more champagne. That was a great. That champagne cup. Your perseverance is real shit.

This is your champagne cup? You got like nine cups over there. You're keeping it real, Dre. Yo, listen. R&B niggas is never going to come to our show. They're going to try to top Dre. No, you know it to come to our show. They're going to try to top Dream. They're going to die. It's going to be crazy.

They're going to die. Is R&B niggas just as tough as hip-hop niggas? Or y'all might be even wilder than us? Keep it real. You have to compare. I don't think it's a wild thing. Do you know how to DMX in R&B? That's Bobby Brown, right?

That's the first. That was the first. I mean, that was Bobby, right as the first Let's just keep this so let's get so I listen to beer or be niggas the rappers right now, right? I don't know. This is crazy. This is thing of me, right? Who's the whole of our? Cuz you like the clues you like the Quincy who's the whole of our and be? I don't think anybody's really replaced R. Kelly, to be honest, when it comes to that. Except R. Kelly.

R. Kelly done pissed on people, and he's still a man. A little bit. Somewhere in the world, he's still a man. I ain't drink that, but somewhere in the world. As much as we want to, you know, marry the idea that geniuses

in a conformed world, like, it's not about forgiving anybody for anything. Shit is just different in that mind. Like,

it has to be. Like, you can't get that type of shit out of your body if you wanted to the closer you are to sane is the closer you are to not being gifted so when crazy shit happens i'm not really like yeah i'm not like oh my god the world's gonna end it's like to me there's something that takes a certain type away in that individual. You know, whether it be dark or light, depending on what we want from them. And when we get what we want from them, we're kind of good, and when we don't, we're upset.

But that's not to say who a victim is or who a victim is not. Like the point is, you still live in the real world with real people. There are rules there you know there are certain things but it also begs the question the idea of time god's religion like it begs a different the question of what's actually real like like what is it you know you come from a my great-grandmother gave birth at 13. It's so faux pas now. But that used to be a thing, like, for real. It wasn't a law.

Like, it wasn't a, like, so what are we changing overall? And how far is DNA and traits actually playing into that and what they don't? Because most of the time, you do some shit just out of habit from what you came from. That's just regular fucking science and logic. You're more like your father and your mother than even if you wanted to not be. Like, oh, I just don't want to be like them. Like, yeah, but you are. You may not be a compulsive drug user, but you're a gambler.

Like, you might not be a gambler, but you're a sex addict. And with all that being said, then you may be a genius and a motherfucker that go invent the red light. You're the same person that had to dream or be stupid and crazy and courageous enough to say, I think I know how to make light. What does that have to do with Laura Kelly, though? It has something to do with, it's just the idea that...

Are we not condoning anything? No. Well, that's just dumb shit that people say. We're just fucking stupid. Nobody's condoning anything that's not right in society or even in your mind. If you need help, get help.

That's just some whole trickery-ass Trump shit. That shit doesn't mean anything. The truth is the body is just more sophisticated than we want to give it give it credit for the body the mind like how what do we get these things from all the way to the point of why we're so detrimental to ourselves as as a culture and as human beings like all of those things come down to traits and things that if you don't try to understand, you won't understand. Because all those days skipping science and shit

is the dumb shit. It should have never been science versus religion in the first place. Because you can't figure out a mind like R. Kelly or whoever it is. Of course we know in the real world, okay, that's wrong. You shouldn't do that. You should have better morals or whatever it is, of course we know in the real world, okay, that's wrong, like, you shouldn't do that, like, you should have better morals, or whatever it is, and then on the flip side of that,

I don't know what's in your body and in your mind, man, I don't, I really just don't know, and I don't know whether I can say completely that an insane person is insane, because the truth is, there's just one word that that actually takes you from being insane to a genius and that's success if you success you're a genius if you're not you're the crazy motherfucker under the bridge that everybody you told you told everybody your ideas and the shit just never took off so that means i could be the same insane motherfucker or me i could be sitting here with this nigga who's a genius. And it's like, no, nigga, you're a genius.

Like, why? Success. That lightning in the bottle. I couldn't even control it in the first place. Beyonce didn't have to be in my time period of living. Or Rihanna. Or Jay. Or Kanye.

Like, all of them. Like, that shit was divine. That was set up from a different thing that I had nothing to do with. You know, so I can't really, I have to see both. I don't play the devil's advocate when you're being guided by time and in moments. Like, I don't know. I think the time shit just helps you become cattle and work for society and make money and pay your fucking taxes and shit. But if we live by moments, then I think people will be better off than that. There's no debating people's creativity and how genius they are, like R. Kelly.

But I just want to make sure that... Man, where are we going with this? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man. I take this very serious. When we're talking in Dream Champs that nobody could ever violate children or anything like that, I mean, I know you're not saying that. I'm just putting it out there for myself.

Yeah, everybody knows that I have children and I love them to death. No, no, absolutely. I'm just saying, like, I feel awkward because I'm a DJ and I played R. Kelly. And I think he's a genius, you know what I'm saying? But I found myself at a crossroads when you start to see the things that come out. And you're just like, anybody. I think the crossroad is the fact that you're surprised why should I not be anything that's on earth like I'm definitely not surprised of anything yeah that happens when you get older when when I'm originally playing or

Kelly I'm a child as well you know saying so so I'm just saying like when we start to grow up and you realize, you're like, that's unacceptable. Well, yeah, whatever somebody's accused of. Whatever we're thinking of, whatever's being told to us, that's unacceptable. If you don't know that, that's just back to

a part of society now. It's just coming since at this point from where I grew up. But of course, motherfuckers that's listening or motherfuckers that's looking at news and having to be told and controlled No, no, no. We don't need to be told. No, not you. I'm saying the mass people who look to news to figure out

things. I think that's an important lesson in just raising kids. My child should know what common sense is. Common sense is lacking in the world right now. Which is the point of why you're trying to over-iterate what we mean and what we stand by and what we sense is. Right. Common sense is lacking in the world right now. Which is the point of why you're over trying you're trying to over iterate what we mean

and like what we stand by and what we don't. Which I have to. Because you feel like you have to because it's stupid motherfuckers listening right now.

That's like I think they're actually saying that they agree with like motherfucker no you know where I came from. Don't say big up you know I love my stupid

dissonance. See he says it. I'm saying big up my stupid the whole crowd is like stop. They. You know, I love my stupid listeners. See, he says it. I'm saying big up my stupid listeners. The whole crowd is like, stop. They hate when I call them my stupid listeners. But I'm saying, I'm stupid too. Like, I understand. I understand this is a sign.

You're not stupid. Relax, buddy. I am. I am. So the fact that you have to say like, oh, yeah, as much as I love my kids, I kill every one of you for them. Like, I have to actually say that. All right.

That's fucking nuts. Like, what the fuck happened to come and sit out the window long time ago but unfortunately but now four four four Marcy me how did that record come together man tell you true that's all Jay Jay had just had this record already and he asked me to add live to certain things or whatever um in the in in the song and it was just more him being family than anything it's like y'all i want you to want you to do these vocals on this record i mean it wasn't ever about a feature it's about anything i think it's just the fact that, oh, it's Dreams, so it should be a feature or whatever it is.

But for me, it was like, oh, cool, yeah. I do the fucking background. I do so many backgrounds on so many things, like period. Because my whole point is to making sure that an artist gets their story heard, you know, and get their point out. Like, it's not about me. It's about, and I think that's the great part about being a songwriter.

When it's never about you in the first place, you don't mind. When you're an artist, you're like, oh, they didn't put my feature credit on there. You're going to fucking crazy, kick shit, call lawyers, and do all kinds of shit. That shit, it's like, did you get your point out? Did you make a great album? People love it? Awesome. I did my shit.

You got your shit. So now, Dream, you know, because I am a petty nigga in a good way. I just want to throw it out there that I need a dream record. Like N-O-R-E. I don't give a fuck where you at. You just tell me wherever you at. I'll fly wherever you at. I don't give a fuck. I want to be in your zone. I want to get crazy. Whatever you want to do. far. I want to be a yes zone. I want to be like I want to get crazy Whatever you want to do So if I set up two ass eating tables you like I was thinking about the wife. I wasn't thinking about oh it'd be a divider and shit, so you won't see what I'm doing.

Oh. That's some more music. You're wilder than me tonight, God damn it. You know what's poppin'? Or the other thing that was wilder was poppin'. No, no, no. Jermaine Dupri winning. Jermaine Dupri winning.

He had 17. Do you want one more shot before we get up on it? No, motherfucker. You're good. No. Your dream, let me tell you something. You set the standards for the cool R&B, but in real life, I'm saying, you did that on Drink Champs, but in real life, what you contributed to the game, we have to salute.

We have to continue to salute as a culture you have to continue to be filled like a king and treated like a king because that's what we are in this thing of ours we sacrifice and we give our lives to this game so I want you to always

know that even other people like me and DJ EFN I want you to always know that even other people like me and DJ EFN, we know what you sacrificed to be in this game. We know what you're doing. We understand and we're gonna salute that shit. You feel the smell? Salute, yes. You got to do that.

I almost smell you. Mmm. Say no more. That's it. Take the Yes. You did that? I oversmell you. Mmm. Say no more. That's it. Take your picture. Good deal. That was a nice one. A drop will be done.

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