Drink Champs - Episode 108 w/ Fabolous, Jadakiss, Diddy (Part 1)

Episode Date: December 16, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this Part 1 of 2 the guys sit down with Jadakiss, and Fabolous then later joined by no other than the chairman Diddy plus many more special guests. --- Sup...port this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it could be, hopefully, is what it should be. This is your boy, N-O-R-E, at EF Fitness on vacation. I haven't used that word in over 10 years, vacation. But let's big him up wherever he's at.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Before we get into tonight's episodes, I want to big up Wave, a tremendous company out there. Big up my man, Steve Rifkin. We wanted a sexy place to do this, and they provided it, so big them up. But this is Drink Champs Podcast, and right now, I have two of the most lyrical giants of the world, the gorilla and the lion of the jungle. These guys go bar for bar. They finally linked up together and made a whole project. It came out Black Friday. If you didn't go get it,
Starting point is 00:03:37 you don't know who we talking about right now. Right now we talking about Jadakiss and Mr. F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S. Make some noise! make some noise! Now, you know, I'm peeping at Instagram. You brothers was on a promo run out here in LA. Yeah. Yo, you guys must have changed
Starting point is 00:03:57 three different times today. No, we gotta just bring our vibe, you know. You niggas got the style, that's what y'all. Nah, it's all you. We be losing the cut somewhere. I said these niggas is changing outfits everywhere. We gotta bring out vibe everywhere we go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You know what I'm saying? Well, I want to start it off right and celebrate you, Fab. Here goes your own bottle. Even though you got bottles at the crib, we got to do it right. You pop that, that's all you. You know what I'm saying? Kiss, we got you too. You want your bucket too, Kiss? Or you want to take this bucket? It's a little sexier? Okay, look, it's right you. You know what I'm saying? Kiss. We got you too. You want your bucket too, Kiss? Or you want to take this
Starting point is 00:04:25 bucket? It's a little sexier? Okay, look. It's right there. You know what I'm saying? I know y'all been working hard and all that, but I am your peer. We are of the same and I want to salute and respect you brothers. You understand what I'm saying? Thank you. I heard you
Starting point is 00:04:40 had an argument about the Vibe cover. Oh, yeah. I mean mean I was talking to this guy. Yeah, I was talking to this guy. We came to the conclusion that he was like trying to hold back New York hip hop. That he was a hater. You know what I mean? He even admitted it. He admitted it?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah, he admitted it. Why, he tried to smash you or something when you took out his wife? I don't know what it was. I think it was a little pillow talk vibe that, you know, that's when a lot of the hate would be going on, during the pillow talks. That's when the most hate goes on. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You could be out here pillow talking, Fab. Definitely. So let's take it from the beginning, Fab, right? Because you guys, you didn't meet Clu that night that you rhymed? Definitely so let's take it from the beginning fab right because You guys you didn't meet clued at night that you were armed I met clue I Met clued at night. I had never met clue before shit is crazy The craziest part about me and clue is in that era You know, but it was like mixed-taste and you never seen what the DJs look like well from my standpoint I had this picture of Clu
Starting point is 00:05:46 in my head that I thought he looked like. You know what I mean? All the DJs back then was big and had these deep voices. So I, you know, and then I met Clu and he was like a smaller dude. I was like, oh shit, you know what I mean? So that threw me off off the rip. Then he came and he was saying,
Starting point is 00:06:04 I thought I was just meeting him, like people had told him I was nice and he wanted to meet me. But he came and was like, yo, we come back from commercial, we gonna rhyme on it, we had a freestyle on the air with Nori and Fabulous. And I'm just like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I just knew it was an opportunity that I couldn't, I couldn't just not put my all into. I didn't know when I was going to get this opportunity again. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I had no idea I was going to be there. I always, in my head, when I play around with you, I always say I smoked you that night. Yeah, I definitely want my rematch.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No, but now that I look back, I don't think I smoked you, per se. Right. I just knew your joint. I just knew that I felt like I smoked the opportunity. Mm-hmm. That was a good one. Yeah, you definitely did.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Let's make some noise for that, goddammit. Let's make some noise for that, goddammit. Let's make some noise for that, goddammit. Yes. Yes, you came. You were hungry. It was crazy because I remember Clue pulling me to the side. And he was like, yo, my man, Sport. He didn't even call you Fab.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah. He said, I think it was something like that. Yeah, it was Sport. It was Sport? Matter of fact, he didn't even call me Fabulous. It was Sport. Because that was like my hood nickname. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:23 He was like, yo, I got my man, Sport. He said, yo, do you mind? And I was like, nah. And for me to see your career blossom from that moment. That's crazy, because certain niggas in that position would have been like, nah, nah, I'm going to let my little man run. You know what I'm saying? Not saying that you would have, I was just trying to, even if you was just trying to put your man on.
Starting point is 00:07:41 A lot of niggas would have said no. A lot of niggas would have said no, but that's why. I salute you for that, man. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that it was a question to you. You know what I'm saying? Because I guess,
Starting point is 00:07:51 but I meant, I guess the test was more for you. You know what I'm saying? Because I guess, you know, I was quote unquote hot at the time. Nah, you were scorching at the time. Okay, thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Thank you for that. Y'all can make some noise for that. God damn it. Y'all can make some noise for that. Yeah, so, I guess he put you in the test to see if you were full. Yeah. And you came to the occasion, man.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And for me to see you, what's that, 15 years later? This is... I was in 98. That was 98? So that's 19 years now. 19. Well, since that first day. Since that day?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Right. That was 98. Did you guys, both of day, since that day, that was 98. Did you guys, both of you, and then this question goes for both of you guys. Other day, well yesterday exactly, KISS landed, I'm in Malibu having lunch. I go meet KISS. That was a boss stunt right there.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Nah, nah, it's getting to a full fledged stunt. Wait, wait, wait, come on. So I'm looking at me and Kiss as drunk, loud as hell, in Beverly Hills, just for no reason. And I'm looking, I'm looking at our life,
Starting point is 00:08:53 and I'm like, did you ever think, like, that this is 19 years later, like, you're still here, and quote, unquote, because people use that word, relevant, so fucking roughly,
Starting point is 00:09:04 and for all three of us to be quote unquote like what they say is relevant. Did you think? Nah, because I never even at that time thought hip hop was a career. I don't think my, like the parents at that time, you know you tell your parents you was trying to be a rapper,
Starting point is 00:09:19 they would have been like. Looking at you like you crazy. Yeah, like what? Because it wasn't looked at as a limpy career where you could, you know, even step out of other things and do other things based off of your hip hop career. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:31 You know what I'm saying? So I would've never saw this even progressing that long. It was about, we loved it when we first did it. It wasn't even a career option. It was something you love to do. Like I like to spit, I like, you know, doing what I do. I love hip hop. And that's what it stemmed from. It was never looked at as like, I'm going to look at this shit
Starting point is 00:09:50 like I'm going to be a knight in this shit 20 years. Word. You know what I mean? That wasn't even a thought, which is crazy. Not at all. You just love the passion of it so much. And you just want to be in the mix and on
Starting point is 00:10:06 and have a record deal. Right. You don't even think you're just really thinking about back then how they say you're supposed to think five years ahead
Starting point is 00:10:16 and all that. You think in like six months. Remember when Gold was a record deal? That was like the whole deal. I got four of them, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I got four. I got four. It was like I had one plan. That whole hood beat like it's the whole deal? Yeah, I got four of them, baby. I got four, I got four. I had one player. That whole hood beat, like, it's the whole hood changing. Everything circles around you, and they get signed to this, like, that was crazy. Do you think, as all three of us,
Starting point is 00:10:36 we've done great in our career, right? We've had success, we still out here doing it. Do you think we chasing the money, or we chasing the thrill? Because the other day, this is what I realized, right? Like when you drop an album, besides the money, it's the thrill, isn't it? Because that's what replaced hustling for us, right?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Remember. But you wasn't getting no royalty money really, unless you, you know, you selling 10 million albums or something, so it really was, you know, you gonna get money, but it was really about putting that music out and people reacting to it and the streets saying
Starting point is 00:11:09 it's crazy. You know what I mean? That's the thrill. What do you think drives us more at this point? After you got 10 years in your career,
Starting point is 00:11:16 you got 12, 15 years in your career, is it the thrill? Because, you know, when you hustle, right? After you make
Starting point is 00:11:24 a certain amount, it's still a fucking, it's a chance you take. It's still a thrill. It's still a thrill. It's still a thrill of it. Every time you drop an album. I was watching, you know when you watch the drug dealer movie, somebody asks you like,
Starting point is 00:11:36 why you ain't get out the game right then? He got enough money. He did it all over the place. It's always that one last time. Still gotta do it. He's still out there. Cause he just, now it's part of the, you know this is what I do. You know what I'm saying? So it's still got to do it. You're still out there. Because he just, because now it's part of the, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:45 this is what I do. You know what I'm saying? So it's still a thrill to me. Money can't be your only motivation or you can do anything for money. You know what I'm saying? People that don't have money, they can do anything for money.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Once you got money, you got to have a different motivation or you ain't never even going to be the best at it. Right. Like once I went platinum, I only went platinum once. I chased that high.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I chased it like it was a high. I was like, I wanted to go platinum again. And I never did. But you chased it. I chased the shit out of that. It's like chasing some pussy that you never got. You know what I mean? You was in it for the chase of it.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah, yeah. What you saying, Getsamson? No, you did it. You know, I'm just saying. It's like chasing the shit out of that. You know what I mean You was in it for the chase of it. Yeah, yeah. What you saying? Guess what I'm saying. No, you did it.
Starting point is 00:12:28 You know, I'm just saying, you're crazy. This is what I thought the other day. I'm sitting there and I'm like, the closest thing I got to that high
Starting point is 00:12:35 is doing a podcast and the podcast that Crazy Shit About It is like I drop an album every week. So you remember how long it used to take to make an album
Starting point is 00:12:44 because we came from the two-inch rail days. So you couldn't put an album together in three months like how these dudes do. These dudes go in their grandma's basement. And so I was just thinking
Starting point is 00:12:52 about that the other day. I was like, the closest thing I got to that is dropping a podcast and getting these million streams a week. And then now I'm chasing that. So I'm saying to myself,
Starting point is 00:13:04 what is it? Like, is it the thrill? It is the thrill. It's the thrill, right? Because it replaces, because we all started from drug dealing.
Starting point is 00:13:12 It was the first thrill, right? Am I bugging you? Or y'all can relate to that? No, definitely. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying, right? So what do you think you more addicted to?
Starting point is 00:13:20 The thrill, or I look like Kiss about to say the money. Definitely. I've got five kids. It's the money. It's a little bit of the thrill. It's more, it's 50-50 with me. 50-50 split.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Cause you remember back then it was more money. It was giving us, you told me that story with X. You know what I mean, they can't do that now. You gotta have a studio in your basement or something now. They ain't giving them budgets they was giving us back then. Shout out to Steve Rifkin. Alright, shout out to Steve Rifkin. They ain't giving them budgets.
Starting point is 00:13:51 The whole shit changed now, so you know what I mean? Gotta appreciate them times. Was there a time in the game, Fab, where, you know, we just said we'd been doing it for like 19 years or how many years, I forget, but when you kind of lost love for the game I Know truthfully me. I never lost love for that one like not even a little bit Just maneuver it in any way. I never really look I didn't like Some of the politics I was going on in the game
Starting point is 00:14:19 But I never lost my love for hip-hop and passionate I was about hip hop. How somebody play something dope for me, how that make you feel. How that motivates you to want it. When people are successful, I want to be in a successful circle too, so it always kept me, you know, and I just love the music too. Like I love when somebody talking that shit.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Whether it's me, whether it's whoever it is. When somebody saying that shit, well they give you that vibe. Or like when your talking that shit, whether it's me, whether it's whoever it is, when somebody saying that shit, when they give you that vibe, or when your shit came out, it gave you a vibe where you felt like it was relatable, but then it had that energy to it as well. You know what I'm saying? I like different artists for different shit.
Starting point is 00:14:59 You know what I'm saying? And that's the shit that the love just keep me afloat. Like, you know what I mean? Right, now the three of us, the one thing the three of us have in common besides us being from New York and being in LA which we're gonna address that Later like that that's just ill just us three being out But we always kind of mess with like the new newer generation like you're always in Braxton Yeah, yeah, you'll always see fab on a new do join Working with a boogie you always see J the kids jump joint, working with A Boogie, you'll always see Jadakiss
Starting point is 00:15:26 jump on or bring out a Young M.A. And you'll always see me just show love, even if it's just giving a conversation, when in fact, in our day, we weren't really being embraced like that. I didn't even get embraced like that. I even look at it, I was talking, and how it was like classes, if y'all was
Starting point is 00:15:45 the juniors and like big and then was the seniors and I came in on a freshman tip, the juniors and seniors
Starting point is 00:15:54 were still fighting so much to be the man, they wasn't looking out for the freshmen like they do now. Like, you know what I'm saying? They was trying to LaVar Boyd.
Starting point is 00:16:01 They was trying to. You remember how the dude just, as soon as he got in the game, he like, you know, let him know, welcome trying to Laval boy They was trying to You remember how the dude Just as soon as he got in the game He like You know let him know Welcome to the NBA Yeah I think I think
Starting point is 00:16:09 It just wasn't It just was Everybody was still so young And hungry And In the game And proving they self too Right
Starting point is 00:16:18 To be able to To Open the door It was tough love It was a different love Yeah You know what I'm saying? I remember a lot of artists,
Starting point is 00:16:26 like, when I was coming, it wasn't the same. And I even tell the artists today, like, to take advantage of it. Right. Because, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Like, the same way, like, even how we, I was joking how Hov, like, you were taking, Niggas wasn't taking pictures
Starting point is 00:16:38 with Hov back in the days. Right. Like, Hov just wasn't, that wasn't his, you know what I mean? He was on his Hov shit. And now it's more
Starting point is 00:16:45 Just open for Because it's just A different vibe now You know what I'm saying It's a different vibe So I think it's dope That When
Starting point is 00:16:55 The older artists Or the OGs Or whatever Look out for The younger artists Coming in And show them love You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:17:03 A lot of them Be looking up to niggas too. And when they meet you and then you want some funny shit, you fuck up. Fuck their life. They love up for you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:11 It's vice versa too. Because it's hard to be the new young hot dude and not feel like everybody's supposed to kiss your ass. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That ego be in there too. You meet some niggas and they be on their shit
Starting point is 00:17:24 and you just got to take it with a hit. The dude used to be on your poster on your wall, but now they meet him and they don't even want to say nothing to him. They just want to be like, because I get it. I've been the man too. I've been the man a couple of times
Starting point is 00:17:35 where I just felt like, fuck that, fuck walking over there. And as I got older, I embraced it more. You know what I'm saying? But it takes time. Right now, it's pretty much a hot topic. Joe Buttons, not Joe Buttons, Waka Flocka
Starting point is 00:17:54 and Pete Rock is going at it on social media. Weird, them, weird, them. I know, it's weird, weird combination, right? Yeah, well, so which is crazy is because I believe Waka Flocka uh did something and said
Starting point is 00:18:09 he did something and Pete Rock just defended it and now they're having this whole thing and the thing about it is this I think that
Starting point is 00:18:16 we respected our older classmen uh prior to us and before us but even if we didn't like respect them we would never make that
Starting point is 00:18:24 known publicly. Do you think, is that a lack of what's happening right now? It's a little lack of respect, but it's also, they got the platform to just say whatever online in different places. I thought you was going to say the Joe Button shit. I think I seen somebody wearing fuck Joe Button hoodies. He made that, oh, he's a marketing genius.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Now he's getting into it. He made his own shit But I was like Yo this Lil Yachty had one Of them hoodies Yeah Yeah they really hate him
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah they They look at him As like the old Hating nigga I love it though But we remember that From the block too He was trying to get out
Starting point is 00:18:59 On the block It was an old Hating nigga out there That want you on the block too Always But what's the disconnect though What is it Like There's Like There's an old, hated nigga out there that want you on the block, too. Always. But what's the disconnect, though? What is it? There's people like us.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I don't want to call us older people, but we embrace that. Why is there a... It feels like the 80s, because Pete Rock is considered the 80s. Can we say that? It's really like the 80s and... I feel like early 90s, maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Oh, early 90s, okay. So I feel like it's that generation that kind of versus the younger people. They just can't get along. Is it because of the style of music? It's a lot of things. And certain niggas, their personality just ain't...
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah. Or they just ain't feeling what's going on over there or they don't feel like it comes from they, or maybe they don't feel like that ever pays homage to this. There's a lot of different reasons a nigga might feel a way. You know what I'm saying? It ain't really, crazy part on the block,
Starting point is 00:19:57 I feel like old niggas used to feel like that because they figured like he was going to cut into their money. But in this, in rap, that's two different lanes. Waka Flocka ain't in Pete Rock lane, and Pete Rock ain't in Waka Flocka lane. So they ain't taking no money out of each other thing. It's maybe just a difference in opinions or how they grew up, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Disagreement. Alright. Now, now, now, Kiss, you've, you, are you paying attention to like these guys going at it? Like the younger generation and the Yachtys and the Joe Buttons. Excuse me, Lil Uzi. No, no, one of them. They all hate Buttons.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Sorry, man. Yeah, yeah, I check it out a little bit. I don't dive all the way in. How do you avoid that? How nobody came at you like that I mean I think they know man you touch the stove
Starting point is 00:20:50 you gonna find out it's hot but but for the most part I embrace all of them you know what I mean I don't they
Starting point is 00:20:59 they see me and it's a it's a mutual respect as long as people respect each other, it shouldn't really be no problem. Even if you don't fuck with somebody, you know what I mean? It can be cordial, you can be whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Stay where you at, you stay where you at. We progress in different directions, but you know what I mean? I don't really pay attention to none of that shit. I see it and read it and just keep scrolling. It ain't even like, you know what I'm saying? A lot of times ain't nobody really turning to nothing anyway on some hip hop shit. Y'all got to pop a bottle. it just keeps scrolling. Like, it ain't even like, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of times, ain't nobody, they don't really turn into nothing anyway
Starting point is 00:21:26 on some hip-hop shit. Y'all got to pop a bottle. Y'all got to drink something. Come on now. Y'all can't be sober champs on here. What we doing? Come on now. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Whatever you want to do, you got a choice, baby. Come on. If you support black excellence over here, you got French Montana shit, if you want to do a shot. Is it shot time, fam? I feel like you feel like it.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm with whatever. Oh, let's do it. It's my first time here. They can see it. Fab Smoke, camera. I'm just saying. Oh, let's do it Smoke you know Yes, now John build up to it what you want to do kiss you want French vanilla I gotta get something to eat. Yeah, we're gonna let you eat live on one fucking drink champs They're good me and fab gonna get it in but you're gonna have a drink
Starting point is 00:22:03 Listen, man. Come on. Come on. At least somebody help me out. This is crazy No, whatever I would do this like nah, it was trolling us No, I gotta action. This is what I gotta ask you is is your fans hitting you as much as they hit me Yeah, I'm seeing the attack both Like yo, even when I do something, they're like, yo, you got to do Drink Champs. They're like, yo, I know you don't do podcasts and press,
Starting point is 00:22:28 but you got to do Drink Champs. And then I would run into you and you was like, yo, you got to, I'm like, yo,
Starting point is 00:22:34 we got to make that. I just always wanted to do it when it was the time to do it. We had something like, you know, to bob off. Because, see,
Starting point is 00:22:41 Drink Champs, I remember exactly what you told me to say. As soon as I got to promote something But just so you know, but not even on the promote time to just somewhere We got something to go off of in this, you know, it's food in here. Let the nigga eat Come on, man. Fab never been here. Let your kids eat You're gonna take a shot before the food and then we're gonna keep it moving. This is what we got to do
Starting point is 00:23:00 We are for the culture This is this is the first time a person from the end of culture is running the culture, and we're going to do this right. Jadakiss is my man. I got him drunk yesterday. Does it mean I'm not going to get him drunk today? Fabulous has never been here. He's the homie, and he's going to get the great treatment because that's a dessert.
Starting point is 00:23:17 See, what it is is our culture was dying because we forgot to praise our people. Like, to us, every rapper should be a fucking superhero. That's what it is like to me. Like you ever looked up, you ever seen a corny. That's what all the rock stars do. They put their rock stars in. This is what I'm trying to say. This is what rock stars do.
Starting point is 00:23:34 This is what we're going to do right here, baby. I feel like Jay Da Kiss should pour the shots. I feel like that's how, let's do it, Kiss. Come on, open up to some rock. Let's have a party, eat your pizza and all that. We doing some rock. We doing something different. On drink chairs, live eating.
Starting point is 00:23:47 The niggas, he said, live eating. He said he can't drink till he eat. And guess what? We gonna do them both, baby. Come on, make some noise. So, Fab, was it you who started the Friday night freestyles? Or was it, what? No, he started that.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You started that? How did that exactly? I actually jumped in. So which one of y'all was doing the shit for Envy? He had it bubbling. He was doing Clue at night and I heard,
Starting point is 00:24:16 I heard, niggas like, yo, you heard them new Fab freestyles? Then I heard probably one or two of them and I said, I need in on this.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And I seen how much interest it was. I went somewhere like Hove and J Cole and Meek everybody was there like they everybody's like yeah we here them shits and Hove was like yo it even got the Clu ad libs on it you know because I told Clu like we got to do that we got to make it authentic you. I'm telling him to shout out Jamaica I have music so was so was it like it felt like yeah I was almost battling each other at first so you started it first you saying fat and then he started it and then When kiss did it you was like, what is he doing? And Kiss got bars, too, so it's like dangerous. I got a mutual respect for Kiss.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Okay. And I didn't even question it. I looked at it like, he opening up a mean lane for this. I love this. And this went away. He bought it back. I need in. I want, let me get some of this.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And look at y'all now. I can't promote that now. We got that check, baby.'ve got that check, baby. I've got to make some noise for that check, baby. Yo, listen. This is to Fab. This is to motherfucking Jadakiss. This is to hip hop.
Starting point is 00:25:36 This is to you guys standing here, standing to test the time with your career and standing here. And by the way, we all here have a career. We don't have a job. This is a career when you got more than 10 years in there feeding your family. And I personally want to say I respect you brothers.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I'm proud of you brothers. And I want everybody to go out there and get that motherfucking album. Salud! And it's going down like this. Ah, shit. Prince Manila's a little harsh when it's hot. I can't even front.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I can't even front. My nigga, French, I love you, my brother. We gotta chill that up. We gotta chill that up. That's what we gotta start doing. We gotta get, you know, bartenders. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hit them fries, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:26:17 This is the first time Drink Champs history, they are eating live on TV, and guess what? We support it all all goddammit Eating french fries and pizza That's some real rappers. It is in case you I don't know. Yes, that's rapper food. It's tall food, right? Yeah The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day.
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Starting point is 00:30:58 you know what i'm saying you know we're in la we eat new york shit yeah new york style in la definitely definitely we know we've seen y'all at the other joint, and they had like a bottle of red wine for y'all. They come on. They got to stop it. They had wine for theyself. They gave us water. They gave y'all water?
Starting point is 00:31:14 It was water champs for real? They got to relax? I got to take my shot every now and then. You know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's inside y'all. Inside y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:24 So now, you guys are doing these freestyles. I'm sorry I'm sorry It's inside y'all Inside Joe But so now So You guys are doing These freestyles Now Now And to New York To the fans And I'm putting myself
Starting point is 00:31:31 In the fan zone At this point It was like Everybody was speculating Are they going At each other At first Right because
Starting point is 00:31:38 It was like You fired one off On a On a I forget what day And then you fired one off Like the very next day. You did it the same day.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Same day, wow. They all came out the same day. Wow. Mine came out in the morning, he came out at midnight. Wow, so I'm just saying, people were speculating, is it shots being thrown? Is this, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:58 you guys going at each other, how did y'all turn it around? Nah, because to me, I don't remember doing it because when I started doing it, I started doing it for the love of where I came from, freestyling over, freestyling over other people's beats. And that's what I, you know, initially came in doing it.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Like, I felt like that was missing, like, you know what I mean? And I hadn't did it in a while, so it was kinda, it was almost like sparring for me. And then when Kiss came in and was doing the two, I see the interest it generated. And I was like, why don't we combine the two, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:34 Put a theme behind it, put, you know, Freddie versus Jason behind it. You already done them out for free. Why is it called Freddie versus Jason? Well, I feel the thing. It's Friday on Elm Street, by the way, because they tried to sue us. I mean, license.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Wait, what? They had to switch it then. You know, Freddy vs. Jason was a real movie. Oh! So you got to use somebody's title. You got to, we not trying to do that. We not, they got to relax. 250?
Starting point is 00:33:01 They got to relax. They got to relax. They got to relax. So that's how it became Friday on Elm Street. We just mixed it. Okay, because I remember CNN came at us. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, it wasn't nice.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It was not nice. But they made it clear. Like, you can say you're CNN. Don't ever have it on paper. And I'm talking about, now, mind you, at the time, Tom Warner was on Warner Brothers. So I guess at that time they couldn't sue each other, but they made it clear, like do not use that, yalla. And if you notice, none of our promotional shit
Starting point is 00:33:36 ever had CNN. You might have said CNN, but it was, yeah, yeah. So that's crazy. So like, okay, you guys are in the game. Now you guys start learning contracts, right? Because obviously, when you learn contracts, this is the reason why Kiss has been on maybe three or four labels, you've been on Elektra.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah, I started at Elektra, then I went to Atlantic. Didn't you have Avistar? I went to Def Jam. No, no Avistar, okay, Elektra. I had Anascope atra, then I went to Atlantic. Didn't you have Avistar with you? No, no Avistar. Okay, Elektra. I had Anascope at first on the low end. Oh, Anascope. Oh, okay. That was your first deal. That was with Nate Dogg?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Steve Stout. No, but we never put the project out there. Oh, okay. This is a funny story. We want to get into it. I learned loyalty. Let's get. Clue had worked at Anasc the scope so he got the deal
Starting point is 00:34:27 up there and um steve stout was up there and um clue ended up doing some i think clue got fired wow low key i think he cool got fired from in the scope and it was like coming to me like well are you gonna go stay with let's go or go go with the man clue. Uh-huh I Had a tough decision. This is my first record that we just talked out and getting a record deal was Was the goal you know I mean that was goals so I Had this decision of am I gonna walk away from my record deal You know always do that or just go with a clue and we figure it out So I chose to go with and we figure it out.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So I chose to go with a clue and figure it out. Good brother, good brother, brother. Make some noise for him. God damn it, god damn it. So get ahead. I didn't feel comfortable staying at Interscope without people that I knew. I always heard before that too,
Starting point is 00:35:19 how the industry was shady, and you know what I mean, different little things. That's all you have. That's all you have. That's all you have. That's all you have. We got to celebrate you today. We got to celebrate that. Kiss me on here eight times,
Starting point is 00:35:30 God damn it. You got to, and listen, you can always come back anytime you want to talk, because you know what it is? I got wind, you know, I got little, like, bugs in everywhere
Starting point is 00:35:44 where people go. And you know what I don't like when people say you don't have a good personality. The thing about it is they don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:51 That's what I'm saying. You know why? They ain't in the locker room. I see I'm in the locker room with you. I know you a funny nigga. Like I know and I'm going to
Starting point is 00:36:00 display that today. We're going to celebrate you today. We're going to celebrate the both of y'all. You're going to get your piece of y'all. Ready for another shot? Oh, y'all.
Starting point is 00:36:07 That's what it is. Yeah, pay some rosé. You know, for the tracer. You know what I mean? You got to trace your motherfucking shot. You know, with a shot. Oh, for the tracer. That's old school?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah. I show how old I was right now. I'm 40 years old, y'all. Yo. As much as... And Fab, you just had a birthday, too. Yeah, rosé. You just turned 40.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Tracer. Not the Tracer. The Tracer. You know, you know I'm dyslexic. Come on, my brother. I'm dyslexic.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Call the Tracer, I've been getting money over being dyslexic for years. Tracer, Rosé for the Tracer. Everybody in dyslexic class got to start following me, I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So, you, yo, we've been in this game, but you just turned 40, you just celebrated your birthday. How did that feel, brother? I mean, it felt, truthfully, it felt like a regular day. I know that's like a milestone age, but I ain't really, I don't know. You're getting so much money, man, you feel busy. I ain't going to lie, My 40th birthday was trash.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It was September 6th. I turned 40 September 6th. The fucking hurricane came. So Fat Joe hits me and goes, we got to go. We're all going to die. Excuse me. First off, he didn't hit me and say that. Let me tell you how foul my friend is.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I went to shit at Prime 112, the top. I'm thinking I'm doing it. I got all the, I went to shit at Prime 112, the top. I'm thinking I'm doing it. I got all the rosé in the world. A fat joke walks in and says, I love you. Happy 40th.
Starting point is 00:37:30 We're all gonna die. What? Like, what kind of, what kind of birthday greeting is that? He's like, the hurricane is coming
Starting point is 00:37:39 on me, fab. I'm like, I'm gonna stay at the St. Regis. These niggas ain't letting this come down. And then the St. Regis evacuated me. It was like, I'm going to stay at the St. Regis. These niggas ain't letting this come down. And then the St. Regis evacuated me.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It was like, and I had to go back to New York. This is the place I didn't want to be on the 40th because you got to celebrate outside. If you born and raised in real true blood New York, and when you cut me, and the Yankee sign comes out, you need to celebrate your birthday somewhere else. You understand what I'm saying? Because there's other people that's going to come out because it's your 40th. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:38:08 I was right back in my town. Let's make some noise for me going right back home. Even though I didn't want to, I wanted to stay. You can't escape the town, man. You can't escape the town. Now I can do some drinking, Mr. Lee. Because I got notes and shit like that. And I got a special surprise for y'all,
Starting point is 00:38:26 too. Who is my man, motherfucker? What's the name of the company? Nine Lives? What? Yes, sir. What is it? Nine Lives Collective. Nine Lives Collective. Give him a gift, man. Give him a gift. Please, man. You know, we treat artists good. I'm an artist. You know what I'm saying? Make sure the artists look good. You know what I'm saying, K?
Starting point is 00:38:41 You need some Hennessy, K? You good? See? You know what I'm saying? These other outlets don't even know niggas' names. You know what I'm saying, K? K, you need some Hennessy, K? You good? See, you know what I'm saying? These other outlets don't even know niggas' names. You know what I'm saying? All them street fam, y'all good? Y'all good, homie over there? You good? I know you're a very serious guy.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I respect you. I respect you, brother. Let's do it. Let's do it, look at that, come on. Give them them pre-rolls. Mm-hmm. And it supports Puerto Rico, in case you don't know that. Look at the top.
Starting point is 00:39:04 That's Heath and all that crazy shit on there. Look at that, I like to treat my artists good. Fat, you can pop that bottle of rose whenever you're ready. Yeah. Come on. Come on, kids, you gotta pop yours too, come on. I'm halfway through my bottle, man. Nah, I'm lying.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I saw you. I'm in great pain right now. The fuck? I'm in trouble, but then we here celebrating. Oh, they told me you a real champagne drinker. That's what they told me. Nah, I drink brown. You drink brown? But told me you a real champagne drinker. That's what they told me. I drink brown. You drink brown?
Starting point is 00:39:27 But you used to be a champagne drinker. I see you in the club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see if we're going to find out right now if you're a champagne nigga right now, fam. OK, we're going to find out. Let's see. Ooh, you popping that thing.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Woo-hoo! That's championship game shit. Let's make some noise for championship game shit. Oh my God, oh, that was ill. Like, that he, nah, not this one, Kiss. This is for show. Yeah, that ain't it. Yeah, there you go, you got your shit nice and cold.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You know what I'm saying, we gonna drink a whole, this is how we do it, man. You know, we gotta know how to treat our artists, you know what I'm saying? Our artists is super heroes nowadays, you know what I'm saying, and I got notes, I ain't going to my notes yet. You know, I got my ESPN first take. I'm going to make sure Kiss don't take out my eye.
Starting point is 00:40:09 No, no, no, no. I got this. I'm going to do something I learned from you. OK, OK. OK, and that's some pre-rolls. I'm going to hit a pre-roll, too. I'm smoking a blunt. OK, Kiss got me a little scared.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah, I got to do a pre-roll. We in LA. I got this. Got this, M. I'm cautious, man. I got this. I got this, man. Whoo! Okay, KISS! Okay, KISS! Make some noise, man! Make some noise!
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah! What's this? Huh? Oh! KISS been on drink chants too much. That's how I pour. That's how I pour the champagne, Phab. That's it?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah. Yeah, that's how I pour. You see this, man? Now, Phab, where is that? I never see this. What you call this again, then, though? It's called the P-C. You see this, man? Now, Fab, where is that? What you call this again, then, though?
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's called the piscine, because you hold it like that, and then you twist. You got that twist at the end. It's OK. I learned it in Paris, Fab. I've been changing on niggas for a while. Niggas should have checked me a long time ago. You like that, right, Mr. Lee?
Starting point is 00:40:59 I've been changing on niggas for a while. Niggas told me they had a Jadakiss session, and a legend came in with wine and he was loose and I looked, I didn't even find it funny. I said, I like wine.
Starting point is 00:41:10 This is what I, and we was getting drunk on wine. You know, it wasn't the wine. Oh, I know what you're saying. You got to relax. I'm just rolling with the story.
Starting point is 00:41:19 So Fab, what's that era in hip hop where if you could live it again and you could just put yourself in there where you would put yourself? Like I'm saying, any era in hip hop, it don't have to be the era, it could be any era. I already know his answer.
Starting point is 00:41:37 What? The golden era, baby. Now what is the golden era, if you say that? Because there's different people who got different answers. If I were to put a 10 year, what's the name on it? I ain't going to lie, I like, from like, 95 to 2005. Okay, see he asking like a real drink champa. Because that's what we asking people, that 10 year gap.
Starting point is 00:41:58 So you said 95 to what? 2005. Oh you went a little further, okay. That's not, that is a little further, right? No, no, no. That's Tim. That's Tim. You know, I'm dyslexic.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And I don't know math, neither. I'm special education. Resource room. I'm that nigga that niggas laugh at in the yellow bus. No, I didn't go to high school. I was already in jail. Yeah. I was in, yeah, juvenile, you know, they got me early, fam.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It was a real project. Yeah, they got me early. 14 years old. It was done for me. It was done. But I started writing rhymes. Let's make some noise for me figuring it out. Yo, let me tell y'all something about your man Fendi right now. Fendi got Hollywood ever since he snuffed Sub-Zero.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Word. Ooh, make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. Oh. Oh. Because his industry card went up. Like, he was just normal. Like, Finley, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Like, how fucks with my? Let me tell you something. He need one more snuff in. Listen, listen. Think he need one more? Nah, nah. Let's keep Finley home. Come on.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Let's not. He need one more new one. This is the first figure. No work. He got to put a new stuff in. He need a new one. Young kids, you should have put out a project. I tell you when you drop it, it's new. He need a new one.
Starting point is 00:43:14 He need a new knockout. He need a new one. Old work like new work. He need a new one, man. Let me tell you, I think it's something. This is a story I never said before in my life, right? So, Fendi sees me, I'm performing, and he goes, listen man, you need chance in between your performance.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So I'm like, I don't know this nigga anymore. I'm like, yo, I feel like I need chance. He's like, I got you. He didn't ask me for no money, he said, I'm going to go everywhere. My nigga, the nigga snuck on a plane. This is pre-Britain Latin, obviously. Do y'all understand?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Do you remember this? Listen, my nigga, let me tell you what these Brooklyn niggas was advanced. I said, how could you sneak on a plane? So we walked in. The niggas that checked their tickets, they give you, they rip the shit back, and they give it back to you. The niggas had every nigga who checked in and ripped the ticket, gave it back,
Starting point is 00:44:14 and put it in the radio and was like, yo, hands on, such and such on the radio. And these niggas came and they said, oh, we was already on the plane. Oh my God, the last scene fucked me up. These niggas is on the plane, 6D. It's not just one or two of these niggas. That nigga Fendi, let's make some noise
Starting point is 00:44:33 for him being grindy. Yo. He be, yo, I don't think y'all understand what I just said. Nah, sneaking on the plane is ill. That's not. That's a bar booster. That's not jumping over the turnstile. Way above booster. That's not jumping a turn is ill. That's not. That's a bar booster. That's not jumping over the turnstile. It's way above booster.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's not jumping a turnstile. It's not jumping a turnstile. Pay your fare. That ain't that. And you know, if you would've got caught,
Starting point is 00:44:53 it'd be mad awkward. Like, excuse me, sir. You might've got arrested sneaking on a plane. I think that's a federal charge. Anything on a plane is a federal charge, right? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 F-I-A. You ever seen a nigga smoke on a plane? Not the commercial. Not the, um... Right. Yeah. Nah. You blew a bogey on a plane?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Nah, I seen a nigga who blew a bogey on a plane. Who? Is he... Did he get arrested? They used to smoke cigarettes on a plane back in the day. They had smoking planes, right? If some planes still got the ass straight on their joints, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 That's why they got to advise it. I'm a little bit of both. I wasn't in that era, but I heard niggas that said they would jump on a plane and smoke a bogey. Yeah, I never experienced that. I'm trying to, though. Come on, K, you want to smoke a bogey on a plane? I've been on privates without,
Starting point is 00:45:44 I knew if I were to lit that bogey, I'm like, everybody would have frowned upon me. You ever smoked a blunt on a train in New York? I've done that. And I've done that in between the cars. Not the metro. Not sitting in the car just blowing it. I've done that, but I felt so disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Because there's always people there that's like, for real? My man used to light cars up. That was his thing. He really loved to do that. Like, roll up in front of everybody and just light it. He had it timed out so he really, his couple stops and then he'd get off
Starting point is 00:46:11 because you could get locked up. Back then, you definitely could get locked up. On some old school New York shit, niggas ever smoked in a movie theater? Definitely. Definitely. I smoked it. I smoked it with Last Dragon.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And there ain't no coming back. Big Plaza. What? We went to CCB4 With the whole crew Got kicked out CCB4? We was on the Look at this story though
Starting point is 00:46:32 This is the illest They kicked us out We Beginning of this shit We We put the blunt in the Like the McDonald's cup We think
Starting point is 00:46:42 We blowing Passing it around You ain't do that. You know what I mean? You talking about with the straw? Yeah, the blunt is the straw. That's what we used to do. Nah, it's not.
Starting point is 00:46:50 We'd do it with Bay Plaza, CB4, just coming on. They knocked me 1,000K. Nobody wants to leave, though. Right. We on the back staircase now. We got to wait to the whole crew. We fell asleep. What?
Starting point is 00:47:10 In the back staircase? We wake up. The whole movie theater's empty. I mean it's like yo yo. Nobody's there. Not our mans. The popcorn. The whole shit is empty. We come out the door and it's snowing.
Starting point is 00:47:27 We like, what the fuck? And then like one last, they must have like, yo, we gonna go around one more time. Then they seen like, yo, and picked us up. That was the illest shit I remember. Remember that shit was? Sleeping on the back staircase of Bay Plaza, boo, we think. Now, one thing I had to deal with
Starting point is 00:47:47 was me being from Left Rack, right? And me having people from Queensbridge, actually, because Traj, regardless of what, Traj was the person who walked me through. And me coming back home, it always was like, a little hard, because people were like,
Starting point is 00:48:03 you know, there's always a hater or something because people expect you to just stay with your own at all. You was a person from Brooklyn that had a unique situation. Most of your crew was from Queens. Did you ever like receive slack from? Not really.
Starting point is 00:48:18 My real internal crew that moved with me was still my hood in Brooklyn. But when I went to Clue, it was just to connect. We made that connection with Clue, and they embraced me because I was Clue's artist, you know what I'm saying? But my team that I was running with was still- No, but I'm saying when you went back to Brooklyn, was people- Nah, because my guys was with me. We'd go meet Clue, and we'd go on, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:41 I think every artist, too, was coming in that you bring your homies. You bring your team. I don't know if they're doing that now. Some guys are doing it, but now it's a different wave. At that time, you brought all your guys with you. Everybody was showing up everywhere, 10, 12, 15 deep. And don't let you have a show. Then it's 30, 50 years.
Starting point is 00:49:04 40, your whole project is there, you know what I'm saying? So that's how we was moving, so I never had that like coming back problem or like, you know what I mean? I moved to Queens for like a year, a year and a half. I lived on Springfield Boulevard, right by Springfield High, right by Springfield High School. Who didn't like you? Why didn't like you?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Why didn't you move to over there? I just was, that was me supposed to have been like my little cut out the hood, kind of out my Brooklyn hood to kind of Queens kind of thing. Now like Brooklyn is like the cut now. Did you ever think that? Well, Brooklyn some parts, you know, like we're in downtown Williamsburg,
Starting point is 00:49:40 but you, Best Star in Brownsville and East New York is still Brooklyn. It's still, they gentrifying, but you, Bed-Stuy and Brownsville and East New York is still Brooklyn. Right, right. It's still, they gentrifying, but watch it. Relax. Still, still, relax.
Starting point is 00:49:52 You gotta relax. You gotta relax. But we doing this motherfucking hip-hop is walking in now. I just wanted to help, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:02 we gotta boost these ratings, keep y'all shit hot, make sure we motherfuckers go get the, what's the, it's not Freddy's. Friday on Elm Street. Friday on Elm Street. Motherfucking Buck Daddy in the building! Yes, yes, yes! What's up, what's up?
Starting point is 00:50:19 What's going on, man? What's up, family? You want to let them know that niggas ain't pulling up and rap radar like that. What's going on, my brother? How you doing? Oh, man. Yo, it's Groove here. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Woo! Happy birthday, Defabulous. The only nigga that got the name that I want. Thank you. Happy birthday to you. Thank you, my brother. Let's take a the name that I want. Thank you. Happy birthday to you.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Thank you, my brother. Let's take a shot for that, bro. Are we supposed to take a shot? You're feeling a little mellow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to turn him up. J.D., I know when you with me, baby. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I had to give you a surprise. Let the chairman pull up. Because we are helping promote this motherfucking album that you guys got. We are helping promote the excellence that you guys are putting together. And we helping doing it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:13 With the chairman of Revolt, thank you for coming through. You know what I mean? I have some questions. Yeah, please. You are, he's actually our guest host today. Yes, yes. I'm the guest host. Because that's how, that's how.
Starting point is 00:51:23 How y'all feel? We need to wake up. Let's wake up. Turn the power on! Turn the power on! That's how y'all feel? That's how y'all feel? Go ahead. Y'all niggas ain't seen me in that long.
Starting point is 00:51:31 That's right. That's how y'all feel about me, man? Let's get this shit going. Let's get this shit going. You're pulling my shit up to you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Look at my fresh.
Starting point is 00:51:39 You don't like me, nigga? So you don't love me? Look at my shit, man. Look. Look at that shit, man. Look. Look at that shit, man. We can share this together. We can get some more French vanilla. French vanilla.
Starting point is 00:51:51 French vanilla. Black excellence. Black excellence. Drink Champs. Revolt TV. Hey, yo. We're fucking into legends. Legends.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Because everybody can't be one. That's right. And you're looking at four. Cheers to you. Woo! Well, we just turned up. That's that French vanilla, baby. That's that French vanilla. Why you ain't never, um, make the
Starting point is 00:52:14 Cocoa Loso official drink? We still negotiating. Oh, my bad. Okay. I went somewhere all quick? My bad. No, no, no, no. Nothing over. Nothing over. It's like the time gotta be right, you know? Okay, okay. You know, but I gave, my bad. No, no, no, no, it wasn't nothing off, nothing off. It's like the time gotta be right, you know? Mm-mm, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:28 But I gave him my word, like if I ever did something with that, we came up with it together. Man, that was organic. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, go ahead, take it from there. How did that come up? It was, I think, the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Puerto Rican Day Parade, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:42 I guess what a lot of people don't know and what doesn't really get, you know, publicized is how close New York rap artists are. Like, we don't really have beef. Like, 50 has beef with some cats, LL has some beef, but the rest of us, we don't really have beef with each other like from New York, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:03 So we all grew up together, you know what I'm saying? And so us hanging out is nothing but us just like hanging out like regular people. And we was at the Puerto Rican Day Parade and we was sitting in the crib chilling, doing what we do. You know, he has a lot of incredible ideas and it, you know, it just started off from there. He helped to kick off Ciroc and, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:21 he's truly a blessing, my brother Fab. And I look forward to getting money with him in the future. That's what I'm talking about man. That's what I'm talking about. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez.
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Starting point is 00:57:31 Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts binge episodes one, two, and three on May 21st and episodes four, five, and six on June 4th. Add free at lava for good. Plus on Apple podcasts. The one thing I've been, no, no, no, you got questions. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Yeah. Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z. Boom. I gotta say the same thing, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas. And no particular order. How are y'all as New York artists, how are y'all adapting to the situation of trap music
Starting point is 00:58:20 and being on the kick versus the snare? I just want to have another shot to that before y'all drink because I want to just make sure everybody got their shit. The guest host is ready to answer that sufficiently. What a shot. What a shot. What a shot.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, let's do it. But I just want to let y'all know y'all are drink champs. Where everything goes, you know, when we slur our words and shit. We have fun. Because I came from here to um, it was my man, Groot. It was my man, Groot. You want to get out of here? Groot is blue, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have fun. Because I came from here to... I'm growing with the slur. It was my man, it was my man, Boobie Lou.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Boobie Lou, Boobie Lou, man. He's on his way. Boobie Lou, happy birthday. You already know. You got... Hold on. I'm missing a shot.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I'm not going to skip it. That's not what I do over here. God damn it. That's what I'm talking about. Listen, man, once again, us being, you know... Black excellence. Black excellence.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Having fun. Great champs. We're both TV. And ain't nobody ashy in the crew. No, yeah, yeah. No black excellence, having fun, three champs, we're both TV. Let's motherfucking have some fun. And ain't nobody ashy in the crew. No, yeah, you know, we got St. Regis soap.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I know you needed that one, huh? I say the kick versus the snare. You know, we come from the kick, right? Or we come from the snare. Which one we come from, the kick? We come versus the snare. You know, we come from the kick, right? Or we come from the snare. Which one we come from? The kick? We come from the snare. We come from the snare.
Starting point is 00:59:30 That's embedded. That's something we can do effortlessly. But since they doing the other thing, I say instead of negating it, you embrace it, and you get on that joint and kill it. You know what I mean? Instead of hating it, yeah, you embrace it, and you get on that joint and kill it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Instead of hating it, yeah, you adapt to your situation and you maximize your opportunity even though it might not be your cup of tea. You know what I mean? You got to adapt and just switch your style to whatever. You know what I mean? If you can, if you that guy, if you can switch up your style, you can go south what I mean? If you can, if you that guy, if you can switch up
Starting point is 01:00:05 your style, you can go south. So you feel like you, would dumb your shit down? Nah, not dumb it down, you still gotta be you. Never, you do you on that trap beat and obliviate that world. Do you, that's a very important word. I want to talk about New York rap.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Take it there. New York rap. We have to do us. Do y'all feel like we as a community are doing us? Are we trying to survive and catch on to a wave? Or do you feel like New York is New York, man? I can't even water it down. It's New York, New York.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Charlie, a percentage is trying to catch the wave, and then there's still a percentage that's doing authentic New York music. The wave's changed, too. Does the wave feel like New York? I feel like it is because New York has even changed. Yes so does the wave feel like New York? I feel like New York has even changed. Yes. You know what I mean? So you can't go with the flow.
Starting point is 01:01:10 You got to be with the flow. You know what I mean? So I think. I love that. I think it's important for people to hear that because a lot of times, to be honest, y'all don't get played in the southern cities because they feel like there's some tension
Starting point is 01:01:23 that's really not there. They feel there's some lack of respect that's really not there. They feel there's some lack of respect that's not really there. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, you know, I want to just know
Starting point is 01:01:30 y'all opinion on it and I would have to agree with you totally. What we looking good is we got Cardi B out there. Cardi B is out there kicking pure ass. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:38 When you speak to Cardi B, her slang is so New York. She don't even have to say where she's from. She be like, ah, like, bitch, I know where you from.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Excuse me, I didn't mean to call her. But you know what I'm saying. You already know. And she's from uptown, too. She reek New York. Yeah, she reek New York. And she's out there kicking ass. Like, so,
Starting point is 01:01:58 did you guys, you know, to reiterate his question, but in a different way, like, a lot of people always keep saying, is New York back? I never like saying, I never like trying to, like, bring New York. And I always felt like, even when people was trying to do those records, New York back. You don't got to say New York back. You got to make a hit record, and that's what puts New York back.
Starting point is 01:02:20 You know, with dudes like Diddy still breathing in yourself, in myself, in yourself, that question's already answered. It didn't go nowhere. You don't got to, you know what I mean? You start putting yourself, you start slighting from what you bring to the culture when you add to that. No, it's not back because it didn't go nowhere, because you looking at the culture. You know what I mean? That's how you got to carry it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So everybody feel like that. I know I want to be in a success circle. Whatever's successful, you know, it's different levels of success, but whatever's successful, I want to be in that. It ain't about just me. They always try to divide and conquer us. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Do you feel like New York supports New York enough? Like most of it on the low. We don't do it on the broad. Dudes, I'm sure a lot of people that portray like they have a problem with each other or they're in their cribs and in their own personal zones playing the shit out of the other person's catalog or music or, you know what I mean? They enjoy the other person's success.
Starting point is 01:03:32 They don't do it as much as the South. That's how the South slid in on New York. Are you saying that you were still playing 50 while y'all was going at it? I'm a fan of 50. So while y'all was going at it, you were still playing his music? Yeah. Get Rich or Die Trying is a classic.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Anybody with ears that weren't classic while y'all was battling. It's always a classic. And you still listen to it? I'm not like a... I'm asking. I'm a realist, and I deal with the situation on the tape. That's all. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Just because something was a discrepancy, I'm a realist and I deal with the situation on tape. That's all. You know what I mean? Just because something was a discrepancy, that don't take away from that body of work. You know what I mean? That's still a classic, no matter what's going on. 50 was mad at me one time because I voiced that. I felt like he was trying to isolate the fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Like when he was going at, you know, I mean, of course he had his personal reasons when he was going at, you know, I mean of course he had his personal reasons why he was going at different people, but when you going at all these guys in New York and trying to bring them down to put yourself higher, you changing the whole perspective, our whole perspective to hip hop as a culture, to people out of town, to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:46 Because at one point he was going at Kis, Joe. But you know, and it's all our- In his defense, without him needing defense, his formula to come in was that. So I think at a point, that was his only thing he knew was, I'm going to do this and that's going to work and that's what works for him. He might have learned that.
Starting point is 01:05:10 But I think he likes it too. No, he definitely likes it. But that's what's interesting about your freestyles was like, I always felt like when you freestyle, it was like you're returning to like your home base. That's what I came from. Okay. Was that how it started?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yeah, that's what I came from. Even up there when we went up there for Clue, that was me just, I come from that. And I had to learn how to, you know, make songs. And even like, you know, did a song with Puff and O2 we did Trade It All, like, that was me learning how to make those kind of songs. But I come from the class of watching Puff make records with, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm like, I knew how to rap in mixtape form,
Starting point is 01:05:57 but then when I had the time to make a song, I had to go, you know, to what I was raised on. To the grave of the crowd. Right. So now when you hear like these stories of these super producers and their crazy ideas and like how they put it together,
Starting point is 01:06:11 you guys both work with Puff. He's standing right here. Like, what was it? Describe what is it like being in the studio with him. Because he's been on before, all of us. We all look up to him.
Starting point is 01:06:22 We all show him love. Damn, Boulay Kev. I just seen you. My nigga, Boo Lake Cab, my nigga. So listen, my bad.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So listen. That question for me is everything. Like he, he's the first person that gave us an opportunity. Should we make
Starting point is 01:06:39 some noise for that? I feel like we should make some noise. Goddammit. Opportunity is one of the most goldenest things in the world. You know what I mean? That people don't even recognize. It's like giving you an opportunity to do something.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's like coming out of the draft and going. Priceless. We was able to get drafted to the Chicago Bulls when Jordan was the hottest. You know what I mean? So that's a blessing From the Lord himself And then him just showing us Let me backtrack a little bit
Starting point is 01:07:12 Not only him We was able to be in the presence Of Notorious B.I.G You know what I mean So that definitely makes a difference He made us stars He changed our lives He was able to put my son You can make it happen. Yeah. He made us stars. He changed our lives. He able to, you know, put my son through college,
Starting point is 01:07:30 buy my mom's a house, learn how to perform, do things of that nature. Yeah, hold on, you in the blood, man. You know what I mean? For me, it's priceless. You know what I mean? I would, my story, he's included in my story. Yeah, your life couldn't be told. Yeah, you know what I mean? I would, my story, he's included in my story. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:07:46 your life couldn't be told. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's, and that's all gratitude, all praise. I learned from work ethic from him too. Like Kissy even tell you, like I'll be up,
Starting point is 01:07:55 if I'm working, I don't even want to sleep. I want to keep working. He the only one besides him. You the only thing I see that can, he can stay up longer than anybody in the, he like an X-Men. Then you, and then it's you.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And then you, you and then some. But you go. I'm a big on my partner here, friend. When he use the word, Ruby Lou and the motherfucking band! Happy birthday, King! Thanks so much for the King! We got everything set up? Yeah, Groove, man, no, no, just grab his seat, man.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Yeah, pull up, pull up, Groove, pull up. It's King Day. Groove, man. No, no, just grab his seat, man. Pull up. Pull up. Groove, pull up. It's King Day. Happy birthday, King. I love you, baby. I love you. Yes, here.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Here. You know what I'm saying? Yo, Groove, we know you don't drink. Are you going to drink today? He drinks some champagne. No, he going to have a sip. We got Tiger Bone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I don't do that, Tiger. Oh, wow. Look what we got, though. You can do one of these, Tiger. No, Tiger. No, Tiger. Mm. No, what it is, Tiger. No Tiger. No Tiger. No Tiger.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Okay, that was real. Aquahydrate, no doubt. Everything over here. We got water. Let me just tell y'all something. Let me just tell y'all something. The fans is very important to us, right? And the thing about it is,
Starting point is 01:09:08 the fans wanted, not only y'all on here, but they wanted you on here, right? And we wanted to show love, because I'm an artist, right? So, but I wanted to give y'all something more than something, because I'm your pair.
Starting point is 01:09:25 That's the thing about it is, I want you to win more than something, because I'm your peer. That's the thing about it is, I want you to win more than anything else, because that's, that's the fuck, where I come from. I'm the same exact thing. Come from the same world.
Starting point is 01:09:36 And I just, I just still see you brothers together, because, because y'all, like from two different hoods, like, I just still want to, because I know we, we touched on it a little bit earlier, but still, just how did y'all from two different hoods. I just still want to, because I know we touched on it a little bit earlier,
Starting point is 01:09:47 but still, just how did y'all put it together? Like, what y'all two together were. It was just like, yo, let's go in, let's do an album. Was it because y'all both on Def Jam? Or was it just like, even if y'all wasn't on Def Jam and you was on, you know. I think it stemmed from our mutual respect. Yeah, that's my brother.
Starting point is 01:10:07 You know what I mean? And not only that, we carrying the torch for New York. You know what I mean? We got to keep that thing lit and lit at a high blue flame. So, you know what I mean? Sometimes it's bigger than
Starting point is 01:10:23 whatever label you're on or whoever you gotta take some initiative on yourself and
Starting point is 01:10:32 and just you know what I mean spark up the culture sometimes and that's what that's where we I think this project stemmed from
Starting point is 01:10:38 yeah I wanna say I'm excited about this project this is like a dream come true did you think they would ever do it nah I never did I was shocked like when I did. I was shocked.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Right. Like, when I heard it, I was shocked, you know, in this, um, because I think they, they, they, they, they balance each other out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:56 It's what you need, and it's so authentic, but it's what, it's not what you would've kind of, like, you know, just obviously put together, but it's what you would've dreamt for, and so, you know, I look put together, but it's what you would have dreamt for.
Starting point is 01:11:06 And so, you know, I look forward to it, and congratulations to y'all. Congratulations. Congratulations to y'all. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me fill up, let me fill up, let me fill up. Let me fill up. Come on, you friends.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Oh yeah, also, while we get the shots, it's my brother, Gooby Lou's birthday. Gooby Lou's birthday. So we want to bring out a vegan cake, because he's strictly vegan. That's right. Rastafari. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Let's go black. Happy birthday to you. All right, go, go. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. OK, we sung regular. Happy birthday, happy birthday to you.
Starting point is 01:11:46 OK, we sung regular. Then we sung the black version. Now we got to do the Spanish version. Del cupiño feliz. Del cupiño feliz. Del cupiño feliz. Del cupiño feliz. Ay! Yo, baby! Thank you, B.I.! Yo, baby! Ay!
Starting point is 01:12:12 Yo, dude, let me just say this on behalf of Drink Champs. Thank you, thank you. You're one of the most genuine people ever in the industry. You're always the same from every different era. I felt like I know you 30 years. I can't know you 30 years, I'm only 40. But in my mind, I know you 30 years I can't know you 30 years I'm only 40 But in my mind I know you 30 years In my mind You've been a great guy for 30 years
Starting point is 01:12:32 You do what you gotta do I heard about you going to Ethiopia And you know baptizing children In my mind again that's in my mind But I know you went to Ethiopia And I just wanna Baptizing children You see Groovy Luke That's in my mind, but I knew you went to Ethiopia. Baptizing children? You see Groovy Luke.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's how pure I see you. I see you as a pure soul. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mine, yeah. In my mind, what you see in your mind, your perception is true. Your perception is true of him. Great soul, you're one of them great people.
Starting point is 01:13:02 You're one of them people that uh it's like a human instant when he come around it's like you lit an incense and there's just love in the air with yeah with gs i definitely don't know what you mean though i'm gonna gotta throw that out there you know when you light incense you clear the air it's love is but some instances stink that's what i'm saying that's why you thought those are the's why you start with your own. Those are the other ones. You got to get it from the guy with the shit wrapped around his head.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Then you know he got the good shit. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. OK, let's make some noise for us not knowing what we're talking about right now. No, I didn't. No, no.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Wake up. It's finally, you're getting drunk on your own show. We love it. We love it. You're not making any sense. We love it. Because. We love it. You're not making any sense. We love it. You used to get us. I've never made any sense.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Here, let's have another shot. Let's have another shot. I'm in. I'm in. We need to treat our guests the right way. Let's treat our, let's give them shots too. Come on. Come on. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:13:57 This is me and you. I need a shot though. Yeah, I got you. Oh, shot, bro. This is mine? Yeah, I just had this shit. It's all together, me and you. Ice.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Ice. All right, baby. Let's's okay. Yeah, I just had this shit gizzed all together, me and you. Ice, ice. All right, let's do it. Just fill it all up. Ice. Mmm. What's going down? That's that French vanilla? Yeah. French vanilla, goddammit.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah. I seen Moet just snuck up in this motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He's got money. Yo, Moet, y'all talk to me after the show. Listen, man, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We got money. Y'all Moet, y'all talk to me after the show. Listen, these boys are both on Rock Nation. Both of y'all are on Rock Nation, all right?
Starting point is 01:14:33 How is that for both of y'all? Technically, I'm locked. The locks is on Rock Nation. You know what I mean? They have something on the table for me that we, you know, it's yet to be. They just signed Mariah Carey out. Yeah, shout out to MC.
Starting point is 01:14:53 She owe me a plaque, you know what I mean? Got some history. Congratulations to Roc Nation. Such a great movement. Great movement for hip hop, you know what I'm saying? Us managing our own talent. That's right. Looking out for each other. It's a great movement. Great movement for hip hop, you know what I'm saying? Us managing our own talent. That's right. Looking out for each other, it's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Ace of Spades, they gotta send someone to drink champagne. Go where they is. We gonna get to Ace of Spades, we gonna get all these hip hop black-owned brands is gonna be up here, you know what I'm saying? And we gonna support each other. That's a great segment, because where, we had Hov just drop this
Starting point is 01:15:25 444 album, right? And he's, he's speaking like, we just, he's, that line was, how dare I drink
Starting point is 01:15:33 Belvedere when Puff got Surat. What was that moment meant for you? Because I know that's your brother, but also,
Starting point is 01:15:42 he's still one of the biggest artists to fuck out there. Man, I mean, I think he was in such a spiritual zone when he was doing the whole album. He was just living his truth. You know what I'm saying? And like, there's no way that if we live in our truth, we can't love. We're not supposed to love each other.
Starting point is 01:15:59 We don't stick together. Like, that's not our truth. What's going on right now is not our truth. And the thing everybody has to understand is like, some of us out there, we actually set the price for you.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You know what I'm saying? And when you come, you'll be able to set the price for the next generation. But right now, I'm setting the price for you. So if you go and you rock with somebody else,
Starting point is 01:16:20 you're just lowering your cut, baby. You know what I'm saying? This is black magic at its fullest. Imagine what they, they ain't not going to pay for it if it don't come this uncut. So it's like, yo, I got to have the price high so everybody motherfucking eats.
Starting point is 01:16:34 But it's a situation where we have to be conscious of that. I don't think people do it on purpose. You know what I'm saying? It's not really all the way like that. But we have to enter in this mode of consciousness to know what we're doing with our money because our money is not getting put back into our communities
Starting point is 01:16:48 and then we begging and scrapping and scraping. And I'm not really one of them niggas. So if your motherfucking boss a rock, I'm giving all the money to the hood. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to keep like a little bit for myself because I like the ball. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:00 But I'm saying most of this shit is going to be going to making changes, opening school and doing different things. But it's just about having that economic power. You know what I'm saying most of the shit is going to be going to making changes, opening school and doing different things. But it's just about having that economic power. You know what I'm saying? And right now, hip-hop has the economic power. And we got to make quality brands, quality records, quality entertainment. But we got to, like, own our shit and support our own shit.
Starting point is 01:17:20 You know what I'm saying? So, now, look. So, look. This is a promise. A lot of them cash shit that y'all drink, they voted for Trump. Facts. You know what I'm saying? Facts. You drinking they shit. You know what I'm saying? So look, this is a promise. A lot of them cat shit that y'all drink, they voted for Trump. Facts. You know what I'm saying? You drinking they shit. They sending donations. I'm sending donations
Starting point is 01:17:32 to motherfucking Change for Change, Howard University. I'm really, I am trying to sell this black love to y'all. I don't want to get it twisted because I know the war that we in. And I know that if we don't get our paper and we don't understand
Starting point is 01:17:48 how to work together, then we just going to be in the same thing, man. We have crumbs thinking we rich when we poor. Even the rich, we only have 1% of the wealth in the United States. But we control 70% of the culture.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Something ain't right there. We have 1% of wealth. You know what other time we have 1% of the culture. That's great. Something ain't right there. Yeah, we got to get back. We had 1% of wealth. You know what other time we had 1% of wealth? The day we became free slaves. Ain't nothing even changed since then. So we have a new generation of entrepreneurs and go-getters that we got to rock with each other right now
Starting point is 01:18:19 because it's like time is at an essence. And the thing is, you can switch that shit over real quick. You can take power real motherfucking quick. And hip hop got that shit. And, you know, so whether it's Ace of Spades or what, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:34 Ross is doing with Bel Air, what y'all doing with Tiger, anything it is, at least, you at least need to have the choice. Don't let the Tiger bone thing out the back. No, no, I'm talking about whatever your vibe is. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:50 It's just that. Basically what you're saying is. There's a choice. You can't tell me Ciroc don't taste better than any of that other shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm on Ciroc. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what it is though?
Starting point is 01:19:00 It's just. And it's not just with the Ciroc. It's just with everything. I think we are becoming more conscious. I'm not saying we should be. I think we are
Starting point is 01:19:10 and we just, and we're on, we're on the right path right now. You know what I'm saying? So I don't really have no criticism, but when it comes
Starting point is 01:19:17 to making change, we're going to need some money. You know what was my dream? And this is some real shit. Like, and it's crazy. I was in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Amsterdam, Holland, obviously. And I'm there with Styles P. And I walked into a spot. And so you can't buy weed in one spot. You can buy the weed in one spot. But then the other spot, you can't buy weed, but you can drink.
Starting point is 01:19:46 You understand what I'm trying to say? So you buy the weed spot on one side, right? I mean, excuse me, you buy the weed on one side, and then if you want to smoke the weed, you go across to the bar, but you can't buy no weed at that bar, right? And, but if you have weed, you can smoke, and you can drink.
Starting point is 01:20:07 But it's the same two people who own the bar. So it's like Fab owns the dispensary, and then Jada Kiss, across the street, owns the actual bar where you want to go smoke your shit. And I was just like, that was so genius to me. Like, it was so simple, because I told you, I'm from special education. I apologize. So I look at things
Starting point is 01:20:26 in a simple way and I was like, damn, why can't we figure that out? You understand what I'm saying? Man, eat real easy. Look, I could sell you the bud. That's that Willie Lynch. Let's call it what it is.
Starting point is 01:20:41 That's that Willie Lynch. Niggas need to stop cooning right now. It's an emergency Willie Lynch Niggas need to stop cooning Right now It's an emergency situation Niggas need to stop cooning Including myself You know what I'm saying Nothing on me We all need to motherfucking
Starting point is 01:20:54 Get focused And get this money Where the nigga Put my own bag at Mr. Lee Yeah I love this drink I like when you like this daddy Daddy I like when you
Starting point is 01:21:03 Scrabble and scrape I like that I'll be practicing I got Daddy, I like when you scrambling and scraping for shit. No, no, no, I got notes and shit. I like that. I've been practicing. I got notes and shit. Yeah, there you go. Got your notes. Okay, yeah, I'm not going to go over that one.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Make a wish. Just blow it out. It's your birthday every day. Every day is a birthday on Drink Champs, goddammit. I'm in. Okay. We ain't fucking with that. I got notes now.
Starting point is 01:21:21 I'm trying to get my life together. I'm trying to get my life together. I want to taste the vegan thing. Yo, Fendi, what's going on? I'm trying to get my life together. I'm trying to get my life together. I'm trying to get my life together. I'm trying to get my life together. I want to taste the vegan cake. Yo, Finley, what's going on? What did y'all think about the M&M freestyle?
Starting point is 01:21:35 That's a good one. I think he used his platform and his voice to speak. I liked it. To project what he thought and spark up everybody to speak up. You know what I mean? I wish it would have came not at the BET before that. I wish the BET would have been the second one or something. I thought it was cool because you wouldn't have thought Eminem to do it at BET.
Starting point is 01:22:02 But Eminem's a genius, and he got an album coming out, and a lot of things is lining up for the marketing of it. You know what I mean? Not taking nothing away. He's a lyrical monster. But what he was saying wasn't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:17 No, everything he was saying was right. I just wish he said it before that. Me personally. But we can't really be mad at the that. Mm. Mm. Me personally. But we can't really be mad at the message. Never, never. The message came, yeah. I just told you.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I love it. You talking about the impact that it would have on the world if it wasn't tied to the BET Awards. Yeah, it just seemed a little bit. You know, helping out some black people on that. That was super appropriate to me. No, no, no, no, no. Listen, I'm not saying nothing negative.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Okay. We talking about, we have to talk about our global perception, you know what I'm saying? And it's just, the only thing he was saying is that, I think the BET Awards was a good idea, though. I think it was a good idea, but I understand how you feel.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I was about to ask if you think it was appreciation or appropriation where he was using that platform because it was a platform. You know, the way, when we be doing that, all that whining and marching, they just be looking at us like we whining and marching So I think that's what he's saying that he would have rather him doing on CNN. So what it looked like, you know saying Cuz what would that be able to do that on the AMAs? They wouldn't even to give they wouldn't even give you that segment to do that.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Interesting point. They wouldn't even give you the two 50 seconds and then they wouldn't let you even say that type of message on that platform. I'm going to tell you what I thought immediately.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Not that anybody's asking. No, it's your show today with that. No, I'm so good. Oh no, no, this is appropriate. Yes. Woo! For me, the first thing I felt, I was like, thank God that Em did that shit.
Starting point is 01:23:57 That shit was really, really dope. Then the second thing I was like, people got to stop beating us to the punch to take care of us, you know what I'm saying? I was talking to Bono the other day, I was like, thank got to stop beating us to the punch to take care of us. You know what I'm saying? I was talking with Bono the other day. I was like, thank you for everything you did to us. But, you know, I'm going to have to beat you. I'm going to have to step into that zone.
Starting point is 01:24:14 You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about other people caring for our people more than we care for our people. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying everything beautiful. I'm saying thank God for Bono. Thank God for Eminem. I don't, I can't lie and say I don't wish it was Jadakiss. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:38 I don't wish it was Fab. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like we have to understand how powerful, you know, our world is. They making sure our world don't fall apart. You know what I'm saying? They, you know, they seeing it and they understand the magic in it, but we not understanding our magic. So it's like that most ferocious thing that you can kick and utilize that time on TV. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:25:07 We, I just feel like we got to utilize that time. You know? Would BET would have gave me or Jadakiss the platform to do that?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Or they did it because it was Eminem doing it and of course they looking at it as a moment for themselves too. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I think they would have had Eminem on Cypher. I think they would have still had him on the Cypher. No, I'm saying would they let us do it? Would they would have given us that platform to do it? If they knew the content that you was going to spit prior to that?
Starting point is 01:25:29 I think so. You know what I'm saying? I think so. I think at the climate of the world, they would have let anybody do it that wanted to touch that particular topic. I mean, overall, it has to be something that fuels us to be first for us.
Starting point is 01:25:45 You know what I'm saying? And I know that may feel uncomfortable, and everybody's undid so many different records. You know what I'm saying? But we got to be clever with our entertainment so we can keep on shocking the world, you know? Shout out to Colin Kaepernick. So, Fab, how was your birthday, man?
Starting point is 01:26:01 What was your wish for this year? Health, wealth was your birthday, man? What was your wish for this year? Health, wealth, knowledge yourself. Why is that a matter over your cake, brother? I like vibes, you know what I mean? I like a good vibe more than like wanting for anything, you know what I mean? So I got a cool vibe. I spent some of the time with my kids.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I went out, grabbed a bag, and spent some more time with my kids. You know what I mean? I felt like I was a milestone age. I ain't, I ain't, I might have a party, and we had parties, but I was more like just trying to just vibe, like just see where I, look back on where I became. Did you miss me though? I'm going to have a party And we had parties But I was more like Just trying to just vibe Like just
Starting point is 01:26:45 See where I Look back on where I became Did you miss me though? For real Because we I'm saying It seems like a thing It's just birthday parties
Starting point is 01:26:54 Man But I'm talking about For your birthday Why won't you party with me For your birthday man? We've partied for my birthday before You came to my party No but man
Starting point is 01:27:04 You ain't never really partied. You know what I'm saying? Eyes, eyes, brother. Eyes, eyes, eyes. Eyes, eyes. I understand. I understand. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:13 Eyes, eyes, eyes. Let's do it. Let's do it. It goes down like this. No, every year, Fab has a theme for his birthday parties. What was the theme this year, my brother? Party's coming up. I didn't do it yet. You still able to do this together? I got no every year fab has a theme for his birthday party moves the theme this year my brother parties coming To do this
Starting point is 01:27:29 You should be shit. I've been looking at your grams Call up the pilot. Yeah, let's do Groove, I just got my shoes. Yes. Yeah. I just got to get my shoes. I got my suit I'm telling you to the bone. I'm mean right now. So look, look, look, look. I knew you was the funniest nigga since the Ray J shit. Oh.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Because you like, you killed it. That Ray J shit. We don't even, you never told that story. I was dead. You never told the story. The Ray J shit was a very good. Yeah. We was all there. Oh.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I was not dead. I was not dead. We were dead. Oh. I was not there. I was not there. I was not there. I was not there. We on Dreamcast. Make some noise for me. Make some noise for me. Make some noise for me. Make some noise for me.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Make some noise for me. Hey, yo. So Ray J came with me. Get the fuck out of here. He did? Ray J came to Vegas with me. Oh. I didn't know that part of it.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Me, I came to Vegas with me. I got the story. Hold on. You're going to take it to where it get to me. Oh. Me, I can't in Vegas with me. I got this story from you. You're going to take it to where it get to me. I didn't know this part of this. I don't even know
Starting point is 01:28:30 Ray J. It's me, Tyrese, and, um... Kevin Hart? No, no, Gary, he just did
Starting point is 01:28:40 Compton. That seems like the real Dawson. Yo, okay. So check this out. It's me, Tyrese, Ray J., seems like y'all, the real dog-skinned niggas. Yo, okay. So check this out. It's me, Tyrese, Ray J, and F. Gary Gray.
Starting point is 01:28:50 You know, I'm the type of nigga I like variety, man. I like people that's unpredictable. You know what I'm saying? I like different personalities. So I was like, I never knew they would become what they are today.
Starting point is 01:29:01 But you know what I'm saying? But like, you know, that sounded like the type of night I want to have in Vegas. You know what I'm saying? But like, you know, that sounded like the type of night I want to have in Vegas. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So Tyrese kept on talking.
Starting point is 01:29:11 This is a fight. This is a Floyd fight, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Tyrese keep on talking about like how you got to get back to church. And we just like, yo, the night ain't start.
Starting point is 01:29:19 You got to get back to church. We in motherfucking Vegas, nigga. Like, you can go to church next week. You know what I'm saying? Sending your thing. You know what I'm saying? It ain't nothing. But we in Vegas. Don't nigga like you can go to church next week you know i'm saying sending sending your thing you know i'm saying ain't nothing we in vegas don't be bringing god into this don't bring god god into this situation you know i'm saying f gary gray is like nigga shut the fuck up you know i'm saying then you got um ray jay so ray jay is like just really like feeling like ray j J right now.
Starting point is 01:29:46 You know what I'm saying? Do you remember what type of Ray J was when Ray J was on? I'm saying he's at home. You know what I'm saying? Ray J is here at home with his brother. He's my friend. I love him. My daddy, we in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:29:54 He's the friend that's feeling it to the 10th degree. Like, yo, check this out, niggas. I told y'all, niggas. And also, we had his back, so he was good. And so, boom, we rocking through the night. You know what I'm saying? Me and Fab,
Starting point is 01:30:08 we usually brush toes at the fights or the games. You know what I'm saying? Jada's always there in the cut, you know what I'm saying, with his own tribe. I'm telling y'all so you can visualize it.
Starting point is 01:30:19 You know what I'm saying? Because Jada don't like, Jada like laying in the cut smoking and talking and whispering in a raspy voice. This is really what's going on at the joint. So I'm up in there, you know, and we decide to have a dinner, you know.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And we have to fight. And we just signal we're going to go eat whatever, whatever. Woo, woo, woo. We signaling our shit, you know. Because we there, we there, in there heavy. So everybody come to the dinner. Like, dinner's on me, you know what I'm saying? I like to buy dinner.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Yeah, so we had the dinner after the fight. Last minute, because we bumped into each other. And, oh, my mouth is a little dry. Let me drink some more. I'm going to pick it up from when we went to the dinner. Yeah, there you go. We're talking at the dinner. I think I had cracked a joke or something about Ray J being on Floyd's.
Starting point is 01:31:06 You know what they had like 24-7? Yeah. It was a piano. It was a piano. Yeah. Because I just said that. Just now nobody goes by me. And then Lil Wayne had like this lines.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Get you. He had lines. Leave you dead in the living room. Lil Wayne. He had lines, Pat. Say that again. Lil Wayne said this line in a rap before. Leave you dead in the living room. Leave you dead in the living room. Oh, okay. It was a rap line. Yeah. Who had lines, Pat? Say that again? Lil Wayne said this line in a rap before. Are you dead in the living room?
Starting point is 01:31:27 Oh, okay. It was a rap line. Right, but I switched it for Twitter. We just had Dream on here. And Dream said, Dream said I'm throwing cocaine? Yeah, Dream said,
Starting point is 01:31:35 let's do lines. Listen, so you gotta be careful. Oh, yeah. You my man, listen. You trying to make this Coke Champs? Coke Champs. Coke Champs is a whole nother,
Starting point is 01:31:43 that's a whole nother podcast. That's my nigga podcast That's my nigga That's my nigga I love him I just didn't think An RME nigga Was going to say that I thought Bobby Brown
Starting point is 01:31:51 That was his shit But Dream came on And he went crazy But continue So Puff has the dinner We at the dinner Talking about
Starting point is 01:32:01 Me tweeting Ray J singing In the living room. You know, it was a funny Twitter moment at that time. I don't know what year this was, but it was when Twitter was popping, it was funny and whatever. Ray J walk in, everybody, oh, yo, laughing from the night.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Ray J cool at this point. He like, yo, Fab, you killed me last night. It was cool, Everything was cool. That's his exact words? Puff fucking with him a little bit. Yeah, like, you killed me. I'm like, you know, some joke shit. I'm full Dame Dash. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Puff laughing at him. Kevin Hart laughing at him. Full Dame Dash. Everybody having fun with it. It ain't even... It's the joke, but they saw it anyway. They seen it. That's why't even. Yeah. It's the joke, but they saw it anyway. Right. They seen it.
Starting point is 01:32:46 They seen it. That's why it was so funny. Like, when niggas seen it, it was like a funny thing. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Ray J's a funny guy. Right. If you do something funny, we gonna laugh.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yeah. So, Ray J leaves. We had a dinner. We laughed. Everything cool at the dinner. Ray J leaves. I don't know what happened, Ray J bumps into Kevin Hart in his hotel. This sounds crazy, fam.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Kevin Hart calls me, says, yo, I just seen Ray J, this nigga is buggin'. He got a tight ass red hood on, keep talkin' about he got indoor pools and outdoor pools. Nah. And six, seven Rolls Royces outside come with him.
Starting point is 01:33:28 It's the money team. He's screaming all kinds of shit. Fab, you didn't know you knew the pre-balls before he laid his 16? Yes. You knew the pre-balls?
Starting point is 01:33:37 This is Kevin Hart telling me this. Telling you. I'm like, what are you talking about, Kev? He said, that's what I was asking Ray J. What are you talking about? I'm like, all right, cool. We Kev? He said, that's what I was asking Ray J. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:33:46 I'm like, all right, cool. We supposed to meet up. I got a show in Vegas. I got a show. Let me get it. Let me get it. Let me get it. Yeah, take it over, King.
Starting point is 01:33:56 We had a show. Me and Styles and Fab got a show at the Palms, right? It was the Palms. It must be nice. Hip hop has been very nice to us. We got a show at the Palms. We had the Palms. We got a show at the Palms, right? It was the Palms? It must be nice. Hip-hop has been very nice to us. We got a show at the Palms. We at the Palms. We're picking up a band.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Congratulations. So we go on. Me and Styles go on. Fab is going on after us. We're through the blood. Yeah. He going on. We going on after.
Starting point is 01:34:19 So we just get off. We coming down the corridor. Our dressing room is to the left. To the right is Floyd and Fifth and Ray J. We holla at it. We holla at it. We say what's up to Floyd and Fifth and Ray J. Fab's coming up.
Starting point is 01:34:41 He got to go on in a minute. He's hollering at Floyd and Fifth. Wait, let me tell you what that conversation was right there. I go ahead then I get back it up right back A-Main talking to Floyd and Phipps! Bam talking to Floyd and Phipps! Ayo, Rastafari! Rastafari! Ayo! Don't do that! No! He was talking to Floyd! I'm just picking up from right there. This is why I gotta pick it up from right there. Look at this nigga!
Starting point is 01:35:18 Bam, then Groove! Go ahead! Go ahead! Kill him! Come tell the story! Groove! Groove, Groove, we intoxicated. Listen, listen, listen. Oh, Groove, we helped rebuild that beautiful, nice guy, Rastafari, our brand of yours, huh? I see you, man. I'm walking in at that hallway right there.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I see Floyd, 50, and Ray J. I say what's up to Floyd. I say what's up To Floyd I say what's up To 50 50 holds my Hand like but don't Let it go So then he taps Ray J Ray J must have been telling Floyd and 50 yo this
Starting point is 01:35:58 Nigga Fab was talking shit about us He said the money team ain't shit We ain't shit He just whatever. So 50 says, Ray, what's this shit that you said Fab was saying? He's like, Ray J turn around now, he's stuck, like he gotta back up whatever he was telling them,
Starting point is 01:36:16 but I'm right there. So Ray is like, yo Fab, we the money team, you can't disrespect us Fab, we the money team you can't disrespect us fab we the money team i'm like what ray j what are you talking about what happened we got six rolls races outside fab we got indoor pools outdoor pools i'm like ray j what the fuck are you talking about this is what i'm saying like to him like what are you talking about bro then i what I'm saying to him. What are you talking about, bro? Then I looked at him. He got the tight red hoodie on
Starting point is 01:36:50 that Kevin Hart told me on the phone. He said, yo, he got a tight red hoodie on and flip flops. I looked down, I seen the flip flops. I looked up, he got the tight red hoodie on. So in my head I said, oh shit, this the shit Kevin Hart was talking about when he said he was bugging out here. And Kevin Hart is a comedian,
Starting point is 01:37:08 so he's not really taking it serious, correct? I didn't even understand it. It don't make any sense what he's saying. So now I see, alright, this is the bugging Ray J, bugging Ray J right now that we're talking to. I'm like, yo, Ray J, he like, yo, fam, you disrespecting Floyd, you disrespecting Floyd, you disrespecting 50,
Starting point is 01:37:27 you disrespecting the money team. We not having that. I don't know what he's talking about. I'm trying to follow it while he's even saying to me. I'm trying to see what it's getting to. But then he like, so I look at Floyd and 50
Starting point is 01:37:42 and they still trying to follow along. Everybody's trying to follow along with Ray going, but he's not making no sense. So now we like Ray's like, yo, let me get back. Get out. Go. This is the outside. This is a from. We said we're something Floyd and fifth because our dressing room is right here.
Starting point is 01:38:04 No, I'm with Styles and my aunt. They just got off. They got off. He got off. I just came in the building when they was getting off. Me and Kevin Hart. It's a coincidence. Me, Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I'm the only nigga that went in. Meek Mill. Meek and Dick. I am. I'm just kidding. We had no idea. This is what we do. Niggas came to see us in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:38:22 We together, man. Keep it going. Look. We said what's. Keep it going. Look. We said what's up to Floyd and Fifth. Right? And Ray J. But our dressing room is right here. Now, I see Fab come up talking to Floyd.
Starting point is 01:38:37 And this is the locks, not just... No, just Miss P. Smooch wasn't there for this particular one. I see Fab say what to Floyd and Phiff. And now he has some words with Ray J, but Ray J was bugging. He got that same outfit, head to toe, that he's saying the red flip-flops. Do you understand what that means? We need to make clear.
Starting point is 01:39:01 I don't think we're breaking it down for all the boys and girls out there. If he had on the same clothes That means he been up since then So that means he's on a different stratosphere We in Vegas Now listen Let's just call it a day No listen
Starting point is 01:39:14 He right You got on the same shit Cause this wardrobe changes And you got on the same shit Fazz is also looking at him like Look The red joint Yo check it out
Starting point is 01:39:24 The shit he's saying from Hart, his outfit is clicking. It's absolutely right. I can witness. He had the red flip-flops with the red Adidas hoodie, the whole suit on. Now, after Fab's talking to Fifth and Floyd, and he acknowledged Ray J, and then he seen he was bugging he's back talking to Fifth and Floyd I ain't know Fifth was holding his hand
Starting point is 01:39:49 now what do you mean holding his hand he gave him a dab and he's holding it you know what I mean so we looking at it it looks like from what we looking at,
Starting point is 01:40:07 it's Fab talking to Fifth. Ray J's trying to talk to Fab, but he's ignoring him now because he's wide. So now he's going like this to Spitz. A few hits to the chest. Ray J's trying to get his attention, but he's still talking He's still talking to Fifth and Floyd
Starting point is 01:40:27 He's tapping his chest One too many He got He pushed him What the fuck This one clicked in my head While he's talking to me What's wrong with this nigga
Starting point is 01:40:36 Ray J is pressing me right now Like I went back to the hood For a second I said oh shit Ray J is pressing me right now. So once that kicked in his mind, he thought about it. He pushed him. Now, when he pushed him, his glasses fly or his shades went over there.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Because, you know, he pushed Ray J. I'm not sure if Ray J pushed him back. But then the security entered Twan. But Ray J. I'm not sure if Ray J pushed him back, but then the security entered Twan. But Ray J went ballistic after that. He started calling out gang shit, all of that. One of my men grabbed him and brought him in our lot, in our dressing room. Can I take it from there?
Starting point is 01:41:17 Wait, wait, wait. Before you go, Puff, what type of push was it? I need to know. Listen. It wasn't an actual push. Let me tell you the actual push. The actual push because he had on the hoodie. I pushed him, but I grabbed his hoodie too. I old school moved and pulled this hoodie over.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Push with the grab. Oh, I'll do that. I'm going to be all the way 100%. It's not with Square Mall. But you have to tell us though, Ray J there. I'm going to be square ball. Yo, but check this out, though. Ray J, you with us? I mean, is it a fucking no? It's all love, Ray J.
Starting point is 01:41:52 If your hood got pulled over, you left that out when you told me what happened. Oh, shit. I didn't know your hood got pulled over, nigga. Your nigga pulled your hood over your head? With your team behind you? Yes, nigga. Your nigga pulled the hood over your head? With your team behind you? Yes, sir. The hood gets pulled over. Sorry, sir.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I didn't swing on him. I didn't do nothing else to him. I just grabbed him and had him by his hood. That's some Brooklyn shit. You just automatically don't do that. Let him go. That's when he start doing the wild and shit. When I let him go, he start going.
Starting point is 01:42:23 My man Aziz grabbed him and pulled him in our dressing room till he calmed down a little bit. He couldn't even get out the hoodie joint, though. Okay. He can't get out of that. That's like a move. That's like a real, like somebody pull your hoodie like this, you can't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:42:38 You trying to swirl him around and get out of that. You can't get out of that. So I had that, but I wasn't trying to hit on, because I was just really just relaxed, relaxed. You was relaxed? That's basically what the fap is. I'm going to tell you, he gave him too many of these. I never seen him get out of it.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Nah, that's how you know your homie is fucked up, when he just keep hitting your 100 times. He was definitely was fucked up again. And I hitting your 100s. He was definitely fucked up. And I even said, yo, Ray J, stop touching me. Ray J, stop touching me. He said, Ray J, stop touching me. And he said, that nigga told me don't touch him, and I touched him.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Like, he just kept doing it, and that's when it escalated. Like, I told him, yo, stop touching me. Can I just give you all my part, because you got to understand how. Oh, we definitely I told him, he was like, stop touching me. Can I just give you on my part because you got to understand. Oh, we definitely don't know your part. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I mean, from there, from there, he smoked it. Yo, so it was all my fault. I'm at the dinner. I'm pushing him.
Starting point is 01:43:37 You know what I'm saying? We getting it like that and then I'm not going to lie, it's going to come out like after I kept amping him up. You know what I'm saying? You was amping Ray J up? I kept amping Ray J up. Just on the shit, not to lie, it's going to come out after I kept amping them up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:47 I kept amping Ray J up. Just on the shit, not the like, whatever, whatever. Yeah, yeah, just fucking around. We all just like, you know what I'm saying? Like a crew, you know what I'm saying? But Ray J didn't feel no way at the dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we was all together.
Starting point is 01:44:00 We kept on fucking with him. And then, I don't know. And then the drinks was going crazy. And in Vegas sometimes You know things in drinks the market because it wasn't like you say it kept my fucking we meet rage I kept on fire. No no no we can't go you yoga everybody like Like 20 right because he's He's there so we fucking with him like he's fam. You know what I'm saying? We not knowing
Starting point is 01:44:25 like you know he may have been partying a little much because he's up from that night from that dinner to backstage. He's still up. Hold on. And then I'm walking after this. I'm walking after this and I think I'm looking at
Starting point is 01:44:41 Baby Tupac. You know what I'm saying? I'm not knowing what's going on. He's screaming out the craziest gang, all types of shit. I'm like, yo, I'm like, what happened? What went on? And so it's clicking to me that, oh man, all that shit started from us fucking around at the party. Damn, I done fucked shit up.
Starting point is 01:45:03 And then the shit kept going, and you know, I got them on the phone, Ray J apologizing. Being a cool nigga, I was. What was the piano shit that the joke started from in the first place? He was on the Floyd 24-7. Ah, I thought he was on puff piano.
Starting point is 01:45:18 He played the piano at Floyd crib or something. So he was at Floyd crib. It was light. It was light, it wasn't even a real tap, a real tap that we would give each other. It wasn't really something like in front of your girl. I still did the show, too. Yeah, he still did the show.
Starting point is 01:45:32 I did that whole little thing. I went, still did the show. I had an after party after it, right? Right. Ray J showed up to the after party, I heard, with Suge Knight, trying to get in the after party. They didn't let him in, and then that's when he called up to the Breakfast Club and did the famous rant. The rant is special to this day.
Starting point is 01:45:52 I listened to it like a couple months ago, and it's still, yeah. All right, you got this beat. You have no idea. Ray J is your homie, correct? Mm-hmm, I was cool with Ray J up until then. Cool, Shit happens. Whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 01:46:08 And then you show up to your after party, and then later on, he's like, Ray J. He's my nigga. Ray J pulled up to that. But he pulled up with shit. He pulled up with shit. What was the thought?
Starting point is 01:46:22 He was trying to press you again? He thought he was doing a double press? Ooh, a double press. What was the thoughts? You trying to press you again? I guess. He thought he was doing a double press? A double press. Ooh, a double press. Ooh. Your shit get wrinkled again and you press it again? That's what he was gonna do.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Damn. I guess. Ray J, I ain't know it was like that you did that. This is new news. You got a lot of gangsta in you. Like, the double press. Double press. Man.
Starting point is 01:46:42 And then what was the first thoughts in your mind? Ray J is a lucky guy. I didn't see him at the party thing. This is I just heard. I heard. Man And then what was the first thoughts in your mind? Ray J is a lucky guy I didn't see him at the party thing This is I just heard I heard And at the time It was four in the morning
Starting point is 01:46:51 In Vegas time But it was 7 a.m. New York time So he called When they didn't let him in He called up to the breakfast club Still hype on whatever he was on Yeah, whatever he was on He clearly called the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:47:05 He's on one. Definitely. Where were you at in your life when you heard that? I was laid up, and then I woke up in the morning to my phone. What, laid up?
Starting point is 01:47:15 Just in the bed. Just like laid down in the bed. That's what it is. These young niggas. That's what it is. Laying up can be some crazy. Their minds be crazy. That's all it is. These young niggas. That's what it is. Give me some crazy. Your mind's crazy. That's all it is.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Don't let it go crazy. So you kept it cool. I kept it cool. I went back to my room, laid up. I woke up in the morning. My phone was on fire. When you go viral or any kind of... When you wake up, your phone is...
Starting point is 01:47:41 This is before Instagram. This is really live viral. Smoke coming up from your phone. He's like, what the fuck? Give me my lighter. Somewhere you got my lighter. New York niggas
Starting point is 01:47:49 always feel like this, man. Yeah, no. Brooklyn. Yeah, you been hanging out with Brooklyn niggas. Two things I don't make it. He had your lighter. A lighter and a charger?
Starting point is 01:47:56 A lighter and a charger, nigga? Chargers are the worst. I knew Jada took my charger. This is the craziest shit. Nigga plugged up. That was... Mr. Lee. Nah, nah. Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee with my phone and Norris Char up. That was... Mr. Lee. Nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee with my phone in, nor he's charging. I know these y'all is niggas. Damn, I never told that right. Look at that. Look at that. This is how we treat you when we drink chaps. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Let me get that. No problem. Yeah, yeah. You do whatever you want to do. I had one too many. Yeah, no. You do whatever you want to do. Drink responsibly.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Yo, Puff, you seen Steve Rifkin right there? Yeah, man. The legend, man. The legend seen Steve Rifkin right there? Yeah, man. The legend, man. The legend, Steve Rifkin, man. Steve, I watched a doc on you. They got somebody did a documentary and it was on you. Has Steve Rifkin done a drink champ yet?
Starting point is 01:48:38 No, Steve Rifkin has not done a drink champ. He has all of the knowledge, baby. What kind of documentary I seen? I don't know what it is. It's got your whole story. Come over here for one second, Steve. Did you invent the street team? I've seen that same guy.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Yeah, man. Yeah. My nigga. We need to talk about that. Mic you up. Mic him up. We need to talk about that. You know why?
Starting point is 01:48:58 Yeah, talk about Paul and Paul and shit. They say bad boys invented the street team. That's what they say. They say, yeah, yeah, I'm saying we got to talk about that. Come on, Steve. Oh, shit'm saying we gotta talk about that. Come on, street. Oh, shit, yeah. Mic them up.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Listen, listen, listen. Don't your niggas ever go see these other niggas perform. You was on, you was on loud, right? No, no, no, never. Never? But listen, don't your other niggas perform me. I'm just telling y'all. Huh?
Starting point is 01:49:21 I'm just telling y'all. Say it a little louder. Don't see these other niggas perform me. You see what I gave you episode Oh I tried to make We're gonna do it in LA You a different vibe don't do it like what, though. You're not that. Like what you said. You said they had wine or something there, right?
Starting point is 01:49:47 Like, this is a different vibe. Yeah, them niggas, they gave y'all water. I gotta do this, though. They had wine. Oh, yeah. Steve, Steve Rick. Make some noise for Steve, motherfucker. It was no blow.
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