Drink Champs - Episode 111 w/ The Wu-Tang Clan

Episode Date: December 26, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys sit down with Method Man, Masta Killa, Raekwon, U-God, Mathematics, and Cappadonna of the Wu-Tang Clan. Although some key members are missing it was an honor to sit with this many members at one time! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Drink up, motherfucker. What it could be, hopefully what it should be. This is your boy N.O.R.E. What up, it's DJ E.F.F. And this is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! First off, before we start, I've been in LA for a month. I've seen you on and off. You came in and you came out. But when we started this podcast, what did we say here, Fenn? This is strictly for the legends.

Strictly for the legends. You got Hot 97, you got Power 105. If you're a new guy and you want to come out and you want to, you know, show your skills and do all that, you have a platform. But where's the platform for the legends? Where are the platforms for the people who've been in this game, who survived this game, who've been in here for over 10 years, and where's their platform? So me and my partner EFN, you can tell by his beard beard that we wanted to represent the legends. And tonight, I am sweating. I am excited. I am vigorous.

I'm enthusiastic. We got the best legendary group. There's no other nine brothers who got together and did what they did. There's no other two Burroughs that got together, meaning Staten Island and Brooklyn coming together and bridging that gap. There's never been this done before, and I'm going to be honest with you, this will never be done again. Tonight, in the motherfucking building, we got the motherfucking Wu-Tang Clan, make some noise!

Now, Mef, I'm gonna start with you because I heard the new Wu-Tang album was actually supposed to be you and Math working on a solo album. I don't know how that got out. I might have said something. Me and Math was working on that joint and, mean he made, his name is Mathematics, so you know he's smart as fuck, so he made the best move for this project. And he's from Queens too. Yeah, he's from Queens. Come on, man, I'm on you. And he made the best move that he can make as far as getting this album to as many people as possible, because I personally, I don't promote it the way I used to.

And I mean- You don't what like you used to? I don't promote like I used to. Okay. And RZA would have been the best choice to go with At that point in time because RZA is a machine and he has a whole machine behind him So it was better it was better and then from what I hear the album is doing extremely well So that was a plus he played chess and he won now Capadonna

You were going the first two albums how many albums were you were going? Yeah, I was going for the first two albums? How many albums were you going? Yeah, I was going for the first two albums. He got a mic right here. Yeah. And then I came in on the Bill For Cuba Links album. Not to cut you off, but this is the reason why him and Ray, or the reason why even more fucking Rhyme, I was trying to get down with his crew called GBK get busy crew get busy crew get busy crew now is this true Capadonna because they said that you had got locked up for something you

actually didn't do and you actually didn't tell you held your ground and and that's the reason why you missed the wootay out no doubt no doubt wow let's make some noise for him being on over here. You ain't seen Yuval Noe yet? Yeah, give him some fudge. He misunderstood. Give him some fudge.

He's a backward guy, man. You got to relax, nigga. So now, OK. Yeah, so now, okay. Yeah, I took that on the chin. Right. That's regular hood shit right there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, come on.

Everybody got a drink here. Everybody get a cup. But shit, we been, you know what I'm saying, doing what we been doing before that. You know what I'm saying? Hustling, scrambling. And that was just a little minor setback right there. So how does it feel you in the can and you hear Patek in there? Oh, man.

I felt good about that. You know what saying but I wasn't you know I was jailing this shit plus I was you know I was in Rikers Allen and all that you know I had to hold it down you know I couldn't be like all excited and all that shit I was only like 18 at that time or whatever the shit what you telling niggas in the can yo those are my brothers niggas was probably like yeah right well I don't know man it's like you know telling niggas in the can? Yo, those are my brothers. Niggas was probably like, yeah, right? Well, I don't know, man. It's like, you know, our niggas was ringing bells before we was even really rapping and shit like that.

Like, you know what I'm saying? All through Brooklyn, all through Queens and all that shit. So they already knew I had some ties. Plus, you know, I was in the Protecting Neck video. You know what I'm saying? I made it for the video and shit. And on top of that, not to cut it for the video issues so and on top of that and not to say you all fish it but and on top of that we used to have these

rap battles or rap contests let's say that my artist this man dusty shout out to dusty just eating dusty they don't smoke dust He was just a big time kid. Now let me tell you something, Dusty, this is the first time I ever seen him. This is the first time I ever seen a motherfucker come to a dice game with a paper bag this big, full of fucking money. Ready to gamble. Couldn't understand a word this nigga was saying, but what he would do to get back to the community, he knew niggas robbed. So he would put on these rap contests for all of Staten Island. They used to be a fight, maybe a fight or two, because Staten Island's so small,

and niggas don't see each other unless it's a party. Everybody stay in their little sectors. But anyway, we would have these fucking rap battles, and Cap would win every night. And I remember RZA, Dirty, and Jizzle showed up to one. And Jizzle was mad hostile at this point. I mean, he's a genius. Had the record out and all that.

You had a deal with them, right? No, no, no. But you dealing with a pro Staten Island crowd that love this nigga. This nigga like, I'll OG on the island as far as hip-hop go. And you know, RZA went up there. I seen these routines before

because I was already fucked with RZA. You know, they doing the RZA rhyming and Dirty beatboxing, but he repeating every last word RZA went up there. I've seen these routines before because I was already fucked with RZA You know they doing the RZA rhyming and dirty beatboxing But he repeating every last word RZA saying it was a dope routine then just go up there just murking it But they didn't get the the accolades cuz Staten Island wasn't trying to hit them niggas. They didn't know who them niggas was. You know what I'm saying? Then after that Cat go on Murks it kills it. You know what I mean? I forgot what Rami did, but it was some shit.

And go, lounging, lounging, lounging, lounging, lounging. Killing it. Cat winning this shit. Cat winning. I remember Just getting mad hostile, because this is when I ain't like the nigga. He was getting mad, no, for real. Because Just was hostile as fuck, and mean as fuck.

I didn't even say mean, I just said understand the God. But the nigga, he was all up in Cat mean. I just ain't understand it. Oh The nigga he was all up in cat face like you ain't win that shit. Yes. It was what this was what what's it is? Now it's gone or being born to build Later on we get our son takes me so play so clean with a hand big bottle of my way They tellin' me. God, what you talkin' about? They tellin' me you just got, what's that you got? You know what I'm sayin'? I'm like, what's up? They say that, somebody said something, they said that's why U God ain't on the new album, cause U God was locked up. Yeah, I don't know.

I was like, that's that bull. See him there? See what he say? I was mad for him. I swear to you, I'm a queen, nigga. No problem. No problem. We just sayin', sometimes people vote shit up sometimes.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Nah, you know I'm media now, so they be feedin' me. Nah, we just sayin', sometimes people vote shit up sometimes. Nah, we just sayin', sometimes people vote shit up sometimes. Nah, we just sayin', sometimes people vote shit up sometimes. Okay, yeah, yeah. Nah, you know I'm media now, so they be feedin' me. Nah, we just sayin', sometimes people vote shit up sometimes. Nah, We just saying, sometimes people vote shit up sometimes. You know I'm media now, so they be feeding me. We just had business schedules, and sometimes the schedule wasn't messing, and I just couldn't get it off. But I just did a remix. I did a remix for the guy.

When I had the time to do it, man. I know you been busy, because I'm getting a new album coming. I finished my sixth album. Put the mic closer to you. It's called Raw. Put the mic closer to you. Yeah, yeah. It's called Raw. No, no.

Raw? R-A-W? Yeah, it's R-A-W. It's coming out March 9th. Nigga, you better tell the truth about me. Don't play. No. I can't.

First of all, first of all, I cannot tell the truth. First of all, this is my cousin. What? Damn near. This is my cousin. This is my cousin. Damn near. Damn near.

We're cousins. Damn near. So, see, we smoked the woods together. But anyways, I can't say nothing about this, bro, because him on the block, you talking about it on the way over here, right? The block stories and the stuff I got to go through with my brother. You know what I'm saying? We survive incredible odds, man. Now, was he really taking the killer tape on tour?

Oh, no. No, that was bullshit. Back then, you couldn't put the killer tape down. You know what the point of this shit was? It was my fucking killer tape, nigga. What you mean, what the fuck? That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape.

That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape. That shit was my fucking killer tape on tour? Oh no, nigga you could not put the killer tape down. You know what the point of this shit was? It was my fucking killer tape, nigga.

What's the point of this shit? That's the funny shit. You gotta get it out of the skin. That's the funny shit. Niggas did a skit with that shit. And it was my fucking killer tape. Nigga, let's be clear. Nah, you could not put the killer tape down

because it's too hot. You're right, let's be clear. You should only put it down for five seconds. And the bands like disappear like yo, who took the killa tape down cause it's too hot. You know what I mean? You put it down for five seconds, and the band just like disappear like, yo, who took the fucking killa tape? Cause you know the killa tape was killing the whole circle. It was the gangsta. We caught the gangsta. We caught the gangsta.

John Woo, right? John Woo. It's crazy. John Yo Phat was killing that shit. So you put the tape down, it'll disappear, and it'll pop up in Just House. It'll pop up in RZA House some fucking way. Oh, you're the one took the cake today, nigga. Let me ask you, if we get back to that Killer Take, because that's like the most

classic skit. That's a killer skit. So, but, um, when y'all had the session for Patek Y'all Next, right? Yeah. It's nine of y'all in the session. Was it always meant for it to be nine of y'all? No, it was eight. It was eight?

It was eight? Okay. Yeah. Sure. We did the Patek Y'all Next song, it was eight. It was eight? It was eight? OK. Yeah. Sure. We did the Protect Your Neck song, and it was more or less like bring $100 to the studio to pay for the session. Wow. Yeah. But we all was rhyming with each other anyway.

It wasn't written in stone what Wu-Tang was going to be or who it was going to be at that point in time, because Protect Your Neck, whether people know this or not, Protect Your Neck was supposed to be a posse cut using their peoples from around the way. Wu-Tang Clan was supposed to be RZA, GZA their peoples from around the way. You're taking clan was supposed to be RZA jazza in old dirt Right because ghost was an executive producer you could check the credits and RZA had the epiphany because he played chess and he's a smart motherfucker too

It was more or less like this stripping numbers. Why don't we just come in with all these niggas and from there? I don't know how many songs they probably had done probably of what was the solo joint just add on the other key Plan in the front cleaning the front was probably already done some shit But it was probably for their album that they was doing it and we all meshed All these things that we was doing that Ritz's houseively like at separate times because it was any given time his door 7th Parole y'all that door stayed open You could walk up in there and shit. You ain't even gotta knock That was our 6th tour You ain't even gotta knock and you can walk up in that bitch and make a hit that day cuz RZA was always in there cooking something up

So y'all were recording? Right, but we were recording his laugh. You're just recording. I watched him make the Method Man beat. I watched him make the Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nothin' to Fuck With You. You know what I'm saying? And I did like two or three joints that day. One was called Ice Cream Man Is Comin', J Love got all them shits.

He got all them first shits. He even got Fuckin' I Get Down For My Crap. Get the fuck out. I Get Down For My, I Get Down For My, I Get down for my pocket work for sure yeah now we all at this time we all at this time watch karate movies yeah yes but y'all niggas took it like to a different Here Miami Come on TV back in the days that it didn't have effect in the community. Nor did it. No, it did. It did. But what I'm saying is, y'all actually brought me to the certain extent. Y'all brought me to an extent of, y'all studied it. We watched it.

We didn't study it. You know what I'm saying? Y'all studied it. You know, the art of saddle boxing. That shit started from the deuce, man. From the deuce. That shit started from the deuce. That's a big old method, man.

He being on the deuce right now. That's just started for this big old man Now you fucking right Because it was a do sky Scandalous dirty That's right Yeah, yes, yes. You know that crazy shit about the dudes back then in the movie theaters where they looked like movie theaters. It was velvet everywhere. They had the velvet curtain. That shit would be closed until the movie started.

That shit would open up. It was a real spectacle. Then later on in life, I went there with one of my girlfriends and shit. You know when you take the double exposure pictures and you know and uh you walk up in the theater it's all dark first of all and you step in this your feet your sneakers are squeaking all these stepping in some sticky and you don't know what it is you gotta look out for all kinds of dope fiends and seats and like that yeah but yeah. But you talking to a nigga that saw New Jack City, right, in that movie

theater near Marcy Project. Because we had some people that worked at the Statue of Liberty and we all went over there to see that shit. That was the lovest fucking, fuck the movie, that was the lovest fucking movie theater I've ever been in in my fucking life. You know what the crazy thing is?

For years, I never knew the Statue of Liberty was in the Staten Island. It's not, it's not. It's not in the Statue of Liberty. It's not in the Staten Island. But people, the Staten Island, I think they'll call it Ellis Island. It's Ellis Island.

Ellis Island, okay. Yeah, okay. No, Ellis Island is separate too. Yeah, I think that's right. Ellis Island is still connected to the land. That was an old slave lady that the French gave to America Wow Okay, so now yeah, we'll take plan comes out will protect your neck right I

Remember seeing it on Ralph McDaniels. There was only one. There was only one. Of protecting the neck. I remember the footage of me. I was fried. That's where I saw one that was like, it was grainier than the next one. Did you see the footage? No, that was a mess. We fucked that nigga up though. You know that, right? We flipped him.

What? We did, because he came up short and he had to run off and he had footage of him running from us beating his ass. Right, right. Over-protecting neck. Remember we filmed that video and niggas fucked him up? But that's what we met killer That's when killer became a man

That's why I'm mad about Did y'all know each other prior to the Master killer okay, and and you know like something about Jamel and shit, like, you embrace the God as soon as you... When you say Jamel? Yeah, yeah. Jamel, I read

the master killer. Okay, please. When he came around, it was just like, it just felt like a perfect fit, like he was meant to be there,

like he was supposed to be there, you know? Plus, Jizzle, you know, he brought a man, so who's going to argue with that or debate that? And I'm telling you,

it worked out for the best because that number deep is deepest that number deep man did you ever think that like you know how your guys had the game right like i remember it was like woo then it was mad did i believe it was uh ray and ghost yeah and then y'all just dropping albums like i mean do you think the game could ever go go that one matter Philly it's what I love that you brought that up because the fact that cuz y'all did that yeah cuz brothers you know you hear it is so cliche we say it's a masterpiece and they always give it to baby no I get that part but it's funny how people say you know they come in and it's cliche to say we change the game we change the game then you if you ask them how it's like a superficial shit like

what we did this we did we actually did change the game because if you ask them how it's like a superficial shit like what we did this we did We actually did change the game because we came in as a group with options to sign That was never heard of and when you talk about shit like that You can't take that for granted because you have album I mean our labels working with each other that would otherwise be trying to cut each other's throats never will that's very It never worked with you. So all this is anchor to one entity and can't do nothing with that right but let me ask you something so is that what y'all came in with the game at first y'all came in and said yo look we selling Wu-Tang Clan but we know

it was just a suicide it was actually I'm gonna tell you exactly how it happened I really knew he was a lot of talent to be holding in one spot like that you know he said you got math you got dirty it was too much it was kind of um like accidental genius because it was more or less like it wasn't going to be enough money for the whole group it's like we're not going to let you sign the whole group for that amount but we'll let you have maybe one or two maybe so one thing or the stab and third so then it became a picture of what who we gonna pick and who we gonna do this? I wasn't picked by Def Jam Def Jam wanted old dirty But there was one that's already signed with a lecture already Fucked his money up already to

Burgundy car nigga and I, cause he bought a system, system cost more than the fucking car. That type shit. Remember he battled Nick D'Exotic one night outside the club. Nick D'Exotic and shit, niggas, no, it was just a battle. And Nick clearly lost, and niggas bust his windows out of his car by the time he got back to his car's windows.

Any fucking way. Nigga, it came to his car windows, but any fucking way Nigga, it came it came to a point where all right Well, who who can I have Russell who can I have at that jam and shit and they kind of threw me at him? Okay, I kind of did a way post. Okay. It was really Tracy weapons who said well anybody would rustle it on begin anybody I want this nigga. Yeah That's how I got in the building. What enough we want math off top type thing. No, they would have took anybody From the game no, they signed us as a group So they say you want to take an optional one y. Gave us the option to sign a solo artist.

And they didn't take an option and say we want such and such artist from the group. I'm not sure about that. You have to speak to Rob about that part. But the way the whole shit worked out, it was weird because my album actually got finished before 30s. And because the simple fact that I had a lot of shit in my way because there was a flood, most of the music got lost, so I had to re-record a lot of shit, he had to redo a lot of beats. And when we were on the road, we would wake up that morning, you know we was on the west coast, we would get up that morning, go do radio, you know the grind. You go for radio, you go do some type of record in store type shit, or where you go to distributors and shit like that.

It's an all day fucking process. Then you go do the show that night. After the show, y'all dudes was going back to y'all rooms. I was in the fucking studio, recording some nasty shit. I'm talking about stocking on top of a hanger, pop a stopper, stocking on top of a hanger, pop a stopper, shit. You have the best shit?

Rats and shit, yeahaps and shit. Yeah. Real shit. What's your favorite Wu-Tang album you ever worked on? The favorite? Nah, I had cuts. Okay. I don't know what happened. Certain cuts was like, you know, bring it right there.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's yours. It's yours. Yeah, certain sets. So, like, girl, I think... How about album you do? Yeah, because I remember Dirty, and he was in Hawaii, and he was singing Love Boat.

Yeah. Love Boat. That's a deep song. Promises something that everyone needs. He was just singing that flop shit. Yeah. And you know, he was all Hawaii now and shit. Oh, we mobbed out in Hawaii.

We don't have scooters and shit. OK, what happened in Hawaii? Let's go to Hawaii. We all had school. First day, because we just got our American Express card. Okay. Glad to enjoy. Let's talk about it, all right? So niggas is out in fucking Hawaii.

First day, everybody got school. All right, true. All right, wait. I want a one-up, nigga, so I go back and get the scooter that you got to actually wear goggles for and shit. That really get up. But before that, we taking a trip to where you go jet skiing at. Instead of taking the vehicles, we rode on the bikes. The next, I say the next two days, I went shopping that first day, I bought a little something here and there

like a pair of Gucci shoes and shit like that. Cause you know out there, everything is Louis, Gucci, products, stores, whole stores. By the third day the more I yell it but we was in Hawaii Hawaii those wacky key no he's a quiet but I really think this is a mix of noise from the know every part of why and I'm so my third day I go use my card shit is decline third day, I go to use my card, shit has declined. Third day, I get back to the hotel,

we going out that night, dudes got Z3 BMWs. I fucked them students. I fucked them students, nigga, Spiders and shit. I'm like, what? Drop top, shit's on. Yo, what the fuck up? And this meet up, eh, eh, eh. That's all I got right here,

cause the card done been maxed out already. What the fuck I'm going to get now? So yeah, it was all right out there. We was on top of the mountain one day. Yeah, that mountain shit. Papa Woo. This is where we shot the insurance video at. Now, Papa Woo, he's known in the group for doing shit with the bikes.

So he gets on the RTV. That was in V8. No, no, no. The bikes didn't have a V8, but the ATV had a white. He gets on the ATV, grabs the throttle

without checking the brake, and skirts off. Jerk his neck back. He rides up, going into the bushes. You flip over, niggas grab the bike. Yo, you alright?

Little do we know, those bushes was grab the bike, yo, you all right? Little do we know, those bushes was there. It was a fucking cliff on the other side. That shit right there saved a motherfucking life. And we was like, yo, dog, stay off the motherfucking bike. This is the second time we got into some bullshit with them damn bikes. It was a crazy night.

I feel like it's time to have a shot for Wu-Tang. I feel like Wu-Tang is the Tiger Bone. Yo, look, this is the... Listen, I don't know if you... I guess time to have a shot for Yeah, but you know we drink tiger bone because we're trying to get it in our any Wu Tang Look just so y'all know we got Earl Stevens to support rappers brands So if you get up, you know a spirit or something like that and you're a rapper We won't put your shit on the table. Look at that's eat 40 shit big him up You white wine is that? I don't know. I don't know.

But then when you sip that shit, that shit gets you warm instantly. Oh, OK. That's the stuff that does something. So we got that Earl Stevens over here. You more than welcome. Yeah, Earl's the super. What shot would you like to have, Hugo?

I could submit a bong right there. The Tiger bong? OK, let's do it. I ain't had that since. I ain't said I had it since. Can we, we got shot glasses here? I ain't had that since 88. Nigga like had that since 88. You got shot glasses, E? I ain't had that since 88. Nigga like me don't drag.

Nah, you can chill, man. Yeah, that shit bad for the skin. You drinkin', man? I don't know what the fuck with the Tiger Ball. Special occasion, man. Take a shot. Let me tell you something. We all big. Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack.

We all big enough. When I say woo, y'all say tang. Woo! Tang! Woo! Tang! When I say woo, y'all say tang. Woo! Tang! Woo! Tang! When I say woo, y'all say tang. Woo! Tang! Woo! Tang! It's all night. We picking up Wu Tang all night. We don't know about other platforms

and other formats of people doing media, but this here, what we do over here is we praise our legends. People do not give people their flowers where they can smell them. They don't give them their trees where they can inhale them. They don't give people their flowers where they can smell them. They don't give them their trees where they can inhale them. They don't give them their thoughts where they can think them.

And they don't give them their drinks where they can drink them. But over here at Drink Champs, that's not what we do. We salute our legends because if ain't nobody else gonna salute our legends, we gonna salute them, motherfucker.

Now, Matt DeMattis, what made you the crazy motherfucker to say, I'm going to do a new Wu-Tang now? Because, look, even RZA said, he said, nigga, it's on you. I'm not telling the breakfast club. RZA said, nigga, nigga, you going to do that? That's what he said in those words. But I read between the lines.

I think I wore all the guards all day. So I understood. He was like, this is what you're going to do? Well, the thought first originally came like at that time, like, I was like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.

I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I think I owe the guys all day. So I understood. He was like, this is what you're going to do? Well, the thought first originally came, like, when we was doing the Better Tomorrow album. Yes, sir. Yeah, he came to me and basically, yeah, it was like,

yo, I think you should do the new Wu-Tang Clan album. He said, Wu-Tang Clan. I was like, I don't know. You know what I mean? Because I know how my brothers are. At the same time, it's like Iang Clan. I was like, I don't know. You know what I mean? Because I know how my brothers are. At the same time, it's like I didn't feel I was ready yet either. I'll take a shot. I don't boogie.

I don't boogie. I got to take a shot, man. Don't worry. I don't worry. It's a type of thing. All right. I wouldn't talk to you. Continue.

Continue. Continue. Yeah, so I just kept working, though, basically. I was working and putting shit together. Me and Mef started, you know, Mef and P's on the road together a lot. You know what I mean? And Mef, that's, you know, you hear a man with his shit out on some shit. No, no, Mef still be on the shit.

But let me tell you, the thing about the new album was, I seen y'all in the Breakfast Club, because that's kind of my job is to make sure you know what's happening in the media so when I heard RZA say he got it I said you know I fuck with you because you were queens 100% so I said he could do the RZA sound again and when I went and I had streamed the album before I had actually purchased it, right? So I streamed it. I couldn't tell which was the woo from the old woo to the new woo. Oh, damn.

I'm talking about production. But it had this twist on it. But what I'm saying is like the drum, it was that woo traditional sound. So I want to salute you, brother, because that's a hard task. Thank you. That's a hard fucking task. Salute. Listen man, this is what we doing, drink champs.

Are you taking shit already you bro? You a real nigga. These niggas in here drinking Tiger's bones and ain't a tiger in that shit. Nigga, if I was in Africa, I'd be sipping that snake venom. I know that. I don't want to drink that. You better smoke one of these with me man okay I do that but this is that oh yeah that's one ass ass shit yeah they got fire bombs for you in there yo yo is Wheatley going floating that's that shit yeah no it's medically yeah medically almost there though so we almost there

we almost there so now Wu-Tang takes off right? It's time for the second album. You guys are all, you all experienced fame now at this point. How hard was it to get all the brothers back together? Like how easy it was to protect your neck? I think Mep said everybody just, I just came with $100. Now, after this goes, how hard was it to get the brothers back together? It wasn't that hard. I mean, because we knew what it was at that time. We were moving units. Everybody had their solo joints.

But the only thing that didn't come into accord, or to account, pardon me, was the fact that now we're solo artists trying to come back as a group. You know what I mean? So what RZA did, which I thought was genius, he rented a studio that had two sides to it. It's Ray Parker Jr.'s studio, actually. And one side over here was for recording one half, and the other side over here, so it was always some work going on

where everybody could work. I took the shit for granted. I was just out there on my, I don't know what the fuck I was on, man. I was a rotten person for a long time. A what person? A rotten person. I wouldn't even stay in the house. I couldn't stay in the house and shit.

Plus, you know, we were staying in a place where they shot porno movies. But the majority of the mansions up there. That's a lovely fucking mansion. Yeah, but the majority of the mansions up there that people stay in have the porno. If it's LA, yeah. Or in the Valley, yeah. They get porn in that area. Right. they have if it's LA yeah some dudes knew what the vision was like you can

tell by the way they shined on the album Ghost was Ghost was something I mean the dude was in the future some way he killed that album right there you know what I mean and I think that's what Ghost's second album didn't come out till after the second Wu-Tang album Ghost goes second album didn't come out till after the second Wu-Tang album goes first album didn't come out so after the second Wu-Tang correct because I believe it was your album what 96 yeah I think it was meth album then it was built for Cuban links yeah it was the second Wu-Tang or dirty Oh dirty, oh dirty, liquor store. And genius. Okay, come on, Google it man. Did the second album come out before, remember the movie The Show?

When it had y'all, was it The Show? No, The Show came out before everything. Before the first album? No, not before everything, that was before everything. With the whole beef and was it in a train? Yeah, it was in a train. That was some bullshit though, they should have showed the whole argument. That's what I'm saying though.

That was some bullshit. I won that fucking argument. No you didn't. No you didn't. No you didn't. You know what it was? I was talking too fucking much. That's what it was.

So you blame it on yourself? What was the argument? I blame it on all of us. You blame it on your god? I blame it on all of us because- What was the premise of the argument to start with? Did you jump in the crowd? First of all, I can't even remember what the fuck it was.

Who the fuck knows? We had so many fucking argument You know you go ahead because it's so like it was wrong We all remember y'all can make a seat over our go set something first And then you got shot. Yeah, it was going at it anyway because we we live together So we're on the road They just assume we gonna bump together Just know that me and these dudes roomies on the motherfucking road and they what no This is my bum right here. This is like, understand man, this is my fan right here. Me and Mev been around.

Heckle and Jekyll. These niggas right here, this is shit that I had to put up with, my nigga. All the fucking wilds since the fucking day one. Once these niggas put me on the MC, cause I was a Long Island kid first and foremost. No, this nigga came from Long Island to the streets. See, the different thing with Meth, Meth came to the hill, he was in the hill, but he wasn't really in the hill yet. You know what I'm saying? But he came out of the block and started getting busy, nigga, and you was in the hill for real.

You didn't see me because the niggas you was hanging with, y'all was the hats. This nigga been fucking since he was like 11 years old. I was right there, right now. Like, bitches on Staten Island loved this nigga. Still do. Look, I'm keeping it 100. The haves, like this nigga had every video game when he was younger.

The nigga had the clogs, he had sheepskins, he had fucking polo boots and all that shit. Don't get it fucked up. Because I was in Money Game though. Now hold on. I can't help it. I got hazel eyes. Hold on.

I know what you're going on. No, no, no. Listen, listen. Who be that nigga's got the balls? But look, he was slum with us every now and then because we was in the Stan Cave. He was the beatbox. Stop playing. You was the beatbox nigga. And the soul nigga. You would write songs. Don't play. I was the beatbox. Stop playing. You was the beatbox.

Stop playing. You was the beatbox. Stop playing, nigga. You was like songs. Don't play. I can't hear you. You was like songs, though. Okay, now, but listen. I also was doing the jokes

and all the other sucky shit that niggas was doing. I know. I know. I know, but you saying I wasn't on the block, nigga,

I wasn't on the part of the block. You asked me that. No, no, no. No, but when you came down to the O building, you the block nigga. I wasn't on the part of the block You came that nigga right wrong. Yeah, cuz I was smart in the name When we came down to the 160 Well, I've actually 141 but when we're driving what she was a little nigga crack you have a job with the kid I started job I wasn't fucking with niggas still right okay the king of the ooooh I lost my fucking job 16 I know but I love my fucking job I asked bet my way

into a dice game for y'all don't know what ass betting is, that's when you play some bad money, you got no money. I won, five dollars, and five dollars turned into like six, seven hundred. Boom, I'm hitting licks, and I ended it on a C-low. Ass betting his way into the game. Look, so a nigga can ass bet, so ass betting. In other words, he faked like he had money, but he didn't have the money.

And why am I getting in the game? Alright, so, I'm he had money, but he didn't have the money. And why not get in the game? All right, so, so, I'm over here. CeeLo. Anybody play CeeLo? No, once you roll CeeLo, you can renew the bank. I had $800 in my fucking pocket. I was like $5 in the bank. Yo, stop it.

I ate. I'm out. I hit the ace. I was going and shit, right? But I didn't go straight to the cap stand. I went on the roof first to count the bread and I'm looking off the roof to see if anybody come in the building, try and rob me and shit.

But I took that 500 and I go with ruckus, I'm green as fuck, I wanna flip the money and come with me. And we go uptown, whatever, blah blah blah. You know, ready cook, ready cook, bye bye. So we, by the way but um I'm sitting there he breaking his shit down in the dimes I'm sitting there making next at this time nobody selling nicks come out there with like alright if I put let's say I put 500 down alright you know how many grams that it now you cutting that up in the

nickels so I'm sitting here with like a thousand fucking vows. It's 88 by the way, it's 88. Yeah, I'm sitting there with like a thousand fucking vows and nobody want nicks. Everybody, so after that, it's like whoever came short, they was like, that nigga got nicks. That's what it was and shit, you know what I'm saying? But once I made, and I don't never talk about

the crack era and shit, my rhymes and none of that shit, once I made, and I don't never talk about the crack era and shit, my rhymes and none of that shit, because I hated being out there, but I was good at it. I ain't gonna even lie, I was good at it. Hold on, you crazy shit about this? The niggas that really live the shit, can't rhyme about the shit. And the niggas who ain't really live the shit,

rhyme about the shit. Rhyme about the shit all day long, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, we was making the sauce. Matty C. gave the sauce and shit. sources shit these things come to do a little interview Matter fact the pictures are the ones when we was taking pictures when we had the Columbia rain suits on and shit Early picture we still making sales thinking in between photos and all that shit in the parking lot I'm gonna make a bed right up to the spot because back then we had traffic in the middle of the checks We was car runners, we was car runners

Car runners, explain what that means In other words we would run up to the cars and give them money, you know what I'm saying? That's when we used to get our bread That's how you used to get our thing Cause there was so many niggas out there you had to be the first one to the cuss you But back then, so Matt ran up to the motherfucking car. The nigga grabbed his motherfucking hand. What the fuck happened? No, no, no.

The nigga pulled up. It was late at night. I know this nigga. He a customer. I know this nigga and shit. I always see this motherfucker. I got my hand in the window like this, hand all in the window. I got like 10 joints in my hand.

I'm like, yo, how many you want? He was like all up and he smacked my hand up and pulled off. Screech! I'm on the side of the whip like this. I'm going to kill you all. I'm going to kill you, motherfucker. Let the shit go. I knew he was going to come back, though.

When he came back and shit, I seen his car, but I didn't see him. So he was in the building, copping. So as soon as he came out, I had the box cut, and I cut his rag on top of his car and shit. This nigga going to pull out the fucking, I don't know know what that shit was some type of pipe object from the fucking trunk But he got up out of it That was bad Why you bring that up? But you live and you learn

That's what crack sales was And we had some of the old niggas Niggas really came from the streets my nigga Nah we know that. It's like, it's like. We're going to establish that for the fans. Yeah, man, because it's like, I don't know if we're going to find a lot of shit with that.

That's the core of the motherfucking building. That's good. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.

Hold up. Hold up. You know what I'm saying? We ain't glorifying all that. Nah, we ain't doing nothing. But at the same time. What we got to establish with people who know. We came from that real safe.

Thank you for the God, man. Thank you for coming through, man. Thank you for coming through, man. Yes, sir. Woo. Aw, man. Mm-mm-mm-mm. Smell like good things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And dope. And dope. So now, Cap, Cap, so how hard was it you to adapt after? Now, these are your people prior to you going away. Now, you come home, and they throw you right in. Like, I remember

me just being a straight fan, and they're like, yo, Capitan. You was just that nigga. Let me say one thing. Capa is the godfather. He's already established. No, no, but the industry didn't know. You understand what I'm saying?

Hold on, hold on. I'm saying? You understand where I'm coming from right now. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me tell you some real shit. I'm the one that came and got that motherfucker. Right. Right, right, right. What does that mean? I mean, no.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Niggas ask, yo, where Cat back? In the midst of all the turmoil, I would say, nah, that nigga Dino need to be right there, B. Boom. I went to the hood. He was in the hood building. He was selling security.

He was selling the security. He was selling the security. I was like, yo, I'm going to go to the hood. I'm going to go to the hood. I'm going to go to the hood. I'm going to go to the hood. I'm going to go to the hood. I'm going to go to the hood. I'm like, nah, that nigga Dino need to be right there, B. Boom. I went to the hood. He was in the U building. He was selling security. He was selling, he was selling, he was doing, he was on a straight job, so he just came on, shit. You know what I'm saying? So he was doing his thing. I said, yo, come on, nigga, go to the U building.

He said, yo, no, nigga, fuck all that bullshit. Come on, let's go. Okay, it's been way too long. What's the U building? We got to get to it. The OO building. The OO building? 160. Not the OO building. No, when you say 160, OO. What I mean by OO is like, yo, you go over there, you gon' get hurt. OO. Like, man. His brother actually came up with that shit. Nah, but you and you was the one that came and got me though at that point, you know what I'm saying? Right. he was the one that came and got me though at that point you know what i'm saying because i was hustling and shit doing my own thing i wasn't really doing the music at that point when i came

home i had my mind focused on different shit you know just getting family and situated dealing with parole and you know just trying to clean shit up or whatever you know but i went over there because i really didn't want to do the music you know what i'm'm saying? I didn't really want to do the shit. Anyway. Yeah, but that's why I wanted to snap you out of there. I came in and had to snap you out. You was giving me a tussle. He gave me a little tussle. He was like, yo, man, fuck that.

He came into a shootout the day before. Wait, what? What happened? Yeah, he came into a little shootout. In the West, in the West, bro. You invited him? You said, come take a shootout with me? I'm glad he didn't want to be sold.

No, no, no. He told me because you understand something. These niggas right here, when I say, okay, I'm going to say out with me. I really don't want to be sold. No, no, no. He sold me. These niggas right here, when I say, okay, I'm going to say it like this, because I know we got my brothers in here, and I'm saying, but Park Hill shit back then, you from the hill, you from the hill.

So if back then, you from the family, I know his whole family. I'm from that shit. I know his brothers, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, mother. I went to Brooklyn to see his pops. I see Sham. None of his family. Miss Lang, yeah. Same thing with Map.

It's like, that shit is entrenched. So he called me, said, yo, son, you give me to get jammed up in the West. I'm not there with my rats. I'm with him, like this, yo. This is my brother. Plus, I knew the niggas out there anyway. Some niggas ain't, he ain't get in no more trouble. Well, finish what the fuck your thought was.

I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too.

I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. I want to know how this shit happened, too. my father and plus i knew the out there anyway so he ain't he ain't getting no more trouble now but that's why i went because you know because of that because he came with me over there you know what i'm saying i went i had to go ahead and do that again by myself but that's how this really that's what when the war started because before that first right now check it out right this is cuba this is the cuba cuz before that Well that's the first record you've done Nah this is how That was Cuba Link Yo check it out right this is Cuba This is the Cuba Link before it was even Cuba Link I know it was Cuba Link yeah

When I went to the studio that was probably the last shit that was recorded up there I think RZA was taking everything out I went up there with U-Guard and shit And um I heard a joint I heard a joint playing Uh Ray and Ghost was on it Nas was there You know what I'm saying and I wasn't there that came down here listen listen my father

he was baby Papa I mean I That's a killer what you drinking. What you drinking? I ain't saying though. Man, what's that cold? Something that can be real cold. Give me some of that death, man. We got some champagne. You want to keep it low? We also got Earl Stevens E40. You know, that's the family.

We got Pop Daddy shit. We got light. Yeah, we got light. Look, you want some Earl Stevens? That's wine. That's now. Man, where that other shit at? OK, OK.

We're going to pop. Come on. Mr. Lee, can you pop this? That's one. That's two. Man, where that other shit at? Okay, okay, so we're going to pop. Come on, Mr. Lee, can you pop this? And before we go even further, you know, just so people know, Lawn Maff is the person that designed that thing y'all got on your t-shirts, that W, the tattoos, all that. Hold up, hold up. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Please finish this shit, y'all. Because that shit was some real shit for me right there when the nigga had me up in the joint over there.

You know what I'm saying? When I laid that ice cream verse. That was the first shit. That was the first shit. That was before anything. That was the first verse. So I came in on the purple tape. On the ice cream shit.

Meth came and laid it. Like 15 minutes later and laid that ill ass fucking hook. I was like yo I don't fucking do that. Rizzo asked me. He gave me a paper. He said I'm going to be making these t-shirts and shit. I need a hook that go with these t-shirts. I was like what's the premise?

Like ice cream flavors. But what's the ice cream flavors? And he wrote that shit down and I put that shit to a fucking hook. Who gave you the flavors? Rizzo. Yeah. So Rizzo called me later.

He gave you butter pecan, ricana? Butter pecan, ricana, all of them. He had it all. That was all. Yeah, fresh vanilla, chocolate deluxe, caramel sundae. Rizzo called me later and told me the shit was a single. I was like, that's great He's like now you gotta do this you come home so we think it's you got you you on the next thing

Now you gotta do this shit and we soon the video I was like I can't do that's great, like, y'all gonna have it with that. He was like, nah, you gotta do this shit. And we shooting the video. I was like, I can't do it, Lord. Like, I'm doing other shit, you know what I mean? Now, me and you got a similar story because when I started my solo career, you started yours. Right. We did a source cover together. It was me, you, DMX, Cam'ron, Corrupt. That's on the front of the source.

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, Master Killer. Yes, sir. You just came in with the guards. Now, I want you to just share your experience because I don't know if you know master killer um drink champs is about big enough our legends while they're alive it's it's beautiful

to big up our people when they're gone but how much more of an impact would it be if people know how much they appreciate it while they're alive indeed so we we cater to our i don't want to say older guards we we cater to our legends. You know what I'm saying? So how was your experience, you know, because, you know, because you're from Brooklyn, correct? Indeed. Brooklyn. We are called Medina, right? Medina. Medina. So how was it connecting with East New York too? That's right. Everybody got a body out there. So I know you want to kill somebody. I already knew you would kill somebody. But how is it being from East New York, connecting with the brothers, RZA, JZA,

Old Dirty Bastard, and then connecting with Oval on the shot? Well, you know, for me, I kind of just walked into a situation, you know what I mean, that I wasn't even thinking about. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm basically traveling with JZA, you know, a large us. And, you know, he had manifested and told me about Brothers and, you know, the movement and what Brothers was going to do. But I hadn't witnessed it, you know what I mean,

until I started coming to Shaolin and meeting brothers and being a part of it. Now how different was Shaolin from what you was used to in Medina? Well, I knew the rhyme style for as far as hip hop was concerned. It was getting ready to give birth to something that had never been heard before. Just the style of it, the mixing, the the comfort and at this time you coming from

Brooklyn right who is who is the kings of Brooklyn this it's Big Daddy King Big Daddy King okay you know it's out there you know that's that's the 80s you know I mean he's rated you know I mean who was who's reigning supreme while Wook Tank is telling you to get down. Who's the bridge? Who's the bridge from Brooklyn to Staten Island? Who's the bridge for y'all? Brooklyn and RZA. Brooklyn and RZA. Yeah, well, for me it was just a... Just okay.

For me, it was just a... So, you know, that was my bridge. You know what I mean? And prior to me, you know, coming into this blessing, I kinda went reggae with it for a while. Cause hip hop was kinda like going, so you telling me Master Killer got a reggae album somewhere?

Indeed, indeed. You were super into it. Yeah, I'm about to say. All of that. All of that. All of that. Wee! You know, hip hop at one time was, you know, was raw.

You know what I'm saying? You know and reggae was raw and reggae at a time you know you would still get bottles thrown at you if this shit wasn't right Right So you know I was over there with it Good point You know what I mean until I came into this and you know it was kind of like a new spot for me So what was Jizz's approach? What did Jizz's say to you? I mean you know he didn kind of like a so what was jesus approach what would it just say to you

i mean you know he didn't really say too much you know what i mean you know and you know you know it was just kind of like it was just so unnatural brother you know i mean it was just like a whole natural thing you know he built about you know brothers or whatever right and then you know as we started to travel and started to continue to build you know i mean um i just started to walk in and just witness you know just different things that he might have been building about you know i mean just being you know each brother you know i mean and then being in a studio session or hearing protect your neck for the first time when it wasn't even completed might have only been like four or five people on maybe not even five people but you know just starting to you know just just playing this for you just always a gorgeous just roll with him this is when he had his solo

priority he was signed like this is a both had that was it that was I yeah I was over by them but I'm saying you were wrong during that point to not know No, not doing this solo call. You know Something totally right. So all y'all motherfuckers probably because it was only a Yeah, I can't You couldn't visualize this kid y'all like like me personally I'm be honest Sometimes I lie this shit and people when they listen to the Warrior Boy,

they be like, do you know you'll be here? I be like, yeah, of course. I be lying. Like, one thing, I was selling drugs, for real. My nigga, he ain't shit. That's why I say back to Beth, though. He used to be down on himself a lot. You know what I'm saying?

I used to tell his nigga that one day he won't be a fucking star. And he know did that he did that and what you mean down yourself well you know I can't get no pussy I was like, yeah, all right. I told him. I told this nigga that he was going to be coming out of that. You know, it's funny. You know, it's weird and shit because there was this old lady living in 160, Miss Virginia. Miss Virginia? What's her name?

She used to make sure them kids, she had none of them kids was her kids. And she would make sure them kids got on the school. Yeah. She would make sure them kids got to school. Now, she would come downstairs. She would go tipsy, whatever, whatever. She would see me out the school. Got to school. Yeah, she would make sure them kids got to school. Now she would come downstairs, she was a little tipsy, whatever, whatever, she would see me out the window and she knew I rhymed and she would be like,

is that my singer? I'd be like, yeah, it's me, Miss Virginia, I'm coming down, singer. And she would come downstairs and shit and be like, sing for me, singer. And every time she asked me, I would sing for this lady, man. And you was like, how can you read the page? No, all that shit. For me singer and every time she asked me I was saying for this lady But she, hold on you, right, and we was, and right after, before we dropped the album, rest in peace Miss Virginia Passerby, and she never got to see it but she was right

man, she was definitely more folksy than I used to be. God bless. Now, because she used to be out the window, she was an alcoholic, she didn't know, she was real. No, let's not say that, let's not say that. She wasn't no fucking little ball. Nah, nah, she was real. She made sure the babies got to school. Nah, nah, she was a good woman, she was a good fucking woman. But she used to be out the window and she used to be out the window, sing for me, singer. I'm out the window.

That's my singer. Sing for me. Up in the window. Up in the window. I'm still good, right? Up in the window saying that. I don't feel my mind. I'm still good.

That was my lady right there. I know what you're saying. I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good.

I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good. I'm still good. up in the window saying that that was my lady so what I'm saying is I'm going to reiterate the question because I'm looking at you brothers I know you brothers individually but I got to I gotta reiterate it for the crowd you know for the audience that's um you know Hope I'm glad to believe to have but the thing is did you ever think the child be here your mother celebrate? 25 fucking years Whoo fucking tank when I say woo y'all say

I'm sorry my brother listen and this we big up our legends over here, but yeah, let's celebrate 20 Right that's dope That's dope right there. I mean to have a job that long no a career please don't call it a job a career but um not to go back but uh this was all planned RZA has seen it already in his head that's where everything starts at right there in the mind first if he's seen it in his mind first who knew that it was alone to what it was But he's seen all of us on stage doing what we do and some things was beyond this site Yeah, because was it didn't see me coming. I can't just see him say some things was added No one that was beyond but it was supposed to be there because I'm still sitting Well, I mean so good. It wasn't the bond, it's a picture of the group.

And brothers are still here, man. And talking about rhymes, woo, we just got better with time. And I'll put hands down, I don't give a fuck who it is, hands down on stage, this is one of my favorite motherfucking performers on stage and shit. With Cap got the big chain on. I don't give a fuck how long, it could be a 10 minute

instrumental matter of fact just let the dj cut before i let you go and let cap go in for like an hour straight like that i've seen it with my own eyes on stage no hype man no breath control off the top written all that shit I mean that shit too it feels like y'all were the first ones that that brought real true fanaticism and hip-hop fanaticism I don't know what that means. I know what it means. Like true fanship, like how rock and roll people enjoy that. Like the talent. That they, the parents pass it on to the kids, you know, pass it on, pass it on. Like I feel like Woo was the first one to have that in hip hop. That's what I first did.

Well. You know what, you came at the right era I think. That era, that night. I don't know if you guys fuck with memes, what is it called? Memes? Memes. Memes. Yeah, memes. But these are memes out there, like the guy he meets a girl maybe like yo what does he order all right cool but the fucking bitch got Wu Tang you know fucking playlist I'm character. Right. Oh, for them having y'all in they iPad, how fucking crazy is that?

They crazy. Find they babies. Wootang babies. That one, the one I like is, this could be us, but you don't listen to Wu-Tang. You don't listen to Wu-Tang. And the best one of 2017 Wu-Tang related was, and I can't be on the jury because he disrespected the Wu-Tang. See that?

See that? See that? What? I can't be a part of these proceedings because he disrespected the lieutenant. I want to shake that motherfucker's head or whatever that is. That was dope. And it's weird because the impact, and you know, you have to be,

I have to enjoy what we did through other people's eyes and through other people's memories of it because when you're actually there doing it, you're in the moment, you have to be or else

you can't concentrate, you can't, the people don't receive it the same way they're supposed to with that vibe that is coming from your soul, your everything,

you know what I mean? So, when I hear the stories and things like that or I see the tattoos or the t-shirts, I don't give a fuck if the girl don't know a word of Wu-Tang she reppin that W by all means let her live Fuck that Let's make some noise for that

Now that had to be a weird time for you man because there was a time where Ray And ghost had an intro Where they was kind of going that big and you were actually on that out. Yeah, I Wasn't you know what no conflict for me because dudes always knew I was a little bit I ain't gonna say different cuz we were all the same But I just moved a little bit differently and if somebody was my man And but if it was warranted whatever it was that rain goes had with um Biggie I didn't know about it. So in my eyes it wasn't warranted Because they never built with me about it saying well we got a problem with this dude because blah blah blah whatever whatever So anytime I seen big we was already cool even when we were all together

It might be a point where we were all together Brothers would come through and maybe they didn't see him or they would just all walk past and not say shit and I would stop Bob How did you get cool with Big in the first place? I met him at the Muse. We did a show at the Muse. It was one of those rap seminar shit This is for the young niggas that don't know. That's a club. Yeah, yeah. And this was one of them nights where Wu-Tang was probably already poppin' in New York.

Matter of fact, Detroit State and Philly. And, um... Let me get one of the words, nigga. And we had came through and Mook had just got this motherfuckin' It was the whole week. Rhythm. I mean, Mook had just got all these Wu-Tang shirts made up, so we had mad different colors. It was like Skittles walkin' in that motherfuckin' shit. Yeah.

And, um... Wasn't Pac there that night? I remember big performed huh no pop wasn't it mmm it's a different night but I know that you took a big story this is a night pleading this was a night big head on that body he had to find used to wear the box all the time you know people to know his eyes fucked up or whatever I don't know why well but he had to buy zone vibes on. And he performed Party and Bullshit. Remember? And I remember he killed it because everybody wasn't familiar with the song. I was, but I had forgot that there was a part in the song

where it break down and niggas start fighting. And remember, niggas started fighting on stage. He was like, yo, chill, chill, chill. Turned back around and was like, kill me, I'm so on the show. That was a part of the show. Yeah, that's a part of the show, yeah. That was the same night Yo-Yo performed and Kid Sugg was in there and f***ing with an ice cube.

Okay, I'm sorry. So we walk out the joint, Big was there, and I remember he pulled me to the side and shit. And I remember prior to that, my boy Ray the Ruckus had, remember how they used to give out those demos? Like each label had a demo tape? Sample. Sample, there you go. And they would put songs on there, and Big on of the samplers was Me and My Bitch. Mm. Me and My Bitch. Right.

And Roy, my boy Ruckus, before he went to jail, this the nigga that came up with Cream too. Before he went to jail, he was like, look, if you ever do a song, do a song with this thing. But at this point in time, Wu-Tang is like, we ain't doing songs with nobody cause we not sharing this money. Right. Why would we? We was doing shows for $35 a fucking piece. Then it went up to $100 and niggas was like this at the end of the show waiting for that fucking money.

Am I lying? Niggas wanted that $100. They had seeds already and all that shit. Yeah, serious. But, you know, so we try to keep the money in the family, but me, I love this nigga. This nigga was dope and that performance there solidified it for me. And in my family, but me, I love this nigga. This nigga was dope, and that performance there solidified it for me, and in my head, you know,

Ruckus, I mean, he must have been in there about six months at this time, and it's ringing in my head, if you ever do a song with anybody, do a song with this nigga. So when he approached me, he was like, yo, wanna do a song with you, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, all right, but I didn't really mean this shit at the time, but I kinda meant this shit,

because I knew that I would have to go fuck with niggas. Do you understand? What? The only person that went back and forth with big and they didn't say he bodied you they said it's even that was crazy though because like listen he had just did a song with i'm sorry tracy lee's probably hates me at this point but he potty Tracy Wow I'm so sorry like Tracy Lee. I love you man. Yeah, Philadelphia. Yeah, they're killer. I apologize But just calling Now you take this chance

And I'm going to studio together and you're probably the only person like listen even Jay Zz gets it right Jay-z they like yo he body the more Brooklyn finest he brought it in was you know only artist that did a song with me but I don't know what I was a fan fan of still of the music and all that shit. But I ain't give a fuck about niggas. I was with the lavest niggas, in my opinion. I was with the lavest niggas in the motherfucking industry. So I ain't give a fuck. So I walked up in there with that.

Let me spice up, Nori. Let me spice up, Nori. All right. All right. Big was a dope artist. But at that point in time when we was doing that song, my pen was way hotter. Or my crew, we had more, it's stripping numbers, we had more people. We were way more relevant in the game than what their movement was at that time.

And niggas just came, you know it's hell. But hold on my nigga, hold on my nigga, because I ain't taking shit away from Big. But when Big dropped his shit, that's when it was like, it was like this. Like this. And then all of a sudden, that shit said, boom. And they did they numbers. Puff is one of the smartest niggas in the industry. I don't give a fuck.

We all know that. We're on TV right now. This big ass fucker goes nuts. That's what I'm saying. Puff is nice. Puff is nice. You know, I'm nice with this shit. Nice with this shit. But all in all, we got a song close to that. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.

That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.

That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.

That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. deal at Def Jam word I was saying enough so big big of chase way so you wasn't intimidated a little bit I know I know fuck about niggas at that point in time mentality I'm telling you should I heard how he was talking back then we still talk that way now but it was like man what yeah all that shit dirty saying we was all saying that shit we just ain ain't saying it in front of them all. Dirty was letting it be known.

Like, nigga, what? Nigga. And he got one of our, this is our credo now. Wu-Tang is for the children. Right? That's our motto, our credo. That's it. Now, let's get into that moment right there.

We're all dirty. Is this the Grammys? Oh, yeah. Can we find out where everybody was when that. And we got on the Burgundy. Can we find out where each individual was when that happened? I was right there with him. Okay. I was right there.

Hold on. I was right there with him when it was suit on. It was me and the Burgundy Jones. Yes, with sticky fingers. Fred's role. Sticky fingers was involved? Yes. Sticky fingers.

We all had suits on. I had suits on? Yes. We was turtlenecked out when he was rocking. And he had the nosebleed and he was pissed. He said turtlenecks. He was turtlenecked. I'm trying to imagine Sticky with a turtleneck on. I'm trying to imagine Sticky with a turtleneck on.

That shit look like a roll on deodorant. That shit look like a roll on deodorant. That shit look like a roll on deodorant. So hold on, hold on, hold up, though. I'll be back to sticking. So we all up in the deck. He mad because the motherfucking top seats nosebleeders. He's like, yo, man, fuck that.

I'm going to watch the stage. I'm like, yo, man, you crazy, nigga. So I ain't believe him. I ain't believe him. So he just ran up on there and just touched the motherfucking stage like it was a night. He just walked up on there. Next thing you know, he in front of a hundred million people like this. That shit is in.

That shit is like music. Wootay is for the children. Where were you, Killer, when that shit happened? I can't even remember, brother. Where were you when that shit happened? Take a shot. Oh, shit. You got to take a shot.

Take a shot. I was at home, and I had this shit on, but I wasn't watching it. And I heard this voice, and I was like, nah. Yeah. Nah. I was mad. I was mad. I ain't fucking one.

And I'm running there to go see it. And I'm watching, and I'm watching. And I see the people, and I'm like, oh, this nigga. Oh, shit. We did it, Wayne. This nigga. He said, what you doing, Dirk? Get off of there.

Get off of there. Get off of there. Get off of there. Yo, it was surreal for me, buddy. You were like, oh, man. Wow. But you know what's funny about that shit? Kanye got that shit from them. And I remember the next year, somebody from some band climbed up on some shit at MTV. You know, they was pulling over dirty bastards.

But he did that in, uh, at How Can I Be Down over here in Miami. It was Capetown Performing. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that.

And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. And I remember that. at MTV you know they was pulling over and how can I be down over here in Miami it was capable to perform it and he jumped on the speakers Paul you were there right Oh, that was a record. He watched the stage and it was good. He disrespected Capleton. Yeah, I was there that night.

We flipped our turntables on the wall. Hold on. That made me walk so DMS could run. I don't know about all that. I don't know about all that. Hold on, hold on. I know that that wild thing is the kick. No, every nigga at the party, at the Def Jam party that night, we kick the speakers,

kick the turntable up the seat. The nigga got a dick sucked at the bar from some fucking guy. I know, I was there. I told that story. He was getting a dick sucked at the bar. It was at Prince's Club. This was Prince's Club. So you was dirty.

Where the fuck that come from? So I was there. To go from there, how can I be that? Getting his dick sucked at the bar. We in Miami dirty love Miami. He love bitchy. This is dirty in here? Yeah, so he feeling himself. He from there, to go from there, how can I be that in his dick sucked at the ball? We in Miami, Dirty love Miami.

He love bitchin' Miami. This is Dirty in his dick's up? Yeah, so he feelin' himself now. I'm watchin' him, he feelin' himself. He tries to go on Capleton's set and do that Dirty take the mic shit and take over the show. Them Dreds wasn't fuckin' havin' it. Like, nevermind, nevermind.

We love you, mama, no, no, no. Wasn't havin' it, so now he kind of upset. Me and Doc go on, and next thing you know, he come dirty. I ain't seen him. Because we like, me and Doc, we get in the crowd. We up in the crowd somewhere, all you hear is .

Ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching. You know, lift the team. I see him coming, right? I see him coming, right? I see him coming, right? I'm looking at him like, cause he was doing some funny moments. I'm like, what the fuck is the guy doing? I know he's just, but dude! I'm telling him like,

Shut the whole party down, it's a sucker shit. So we asked the DJ to throw on the records. Throw on the records, DJ. We had to finish the show like that. I had to. I had nothing. Yeah. I had to go for it. And up in the DJ booth.

What's funny about that night was, Tretch knocked the motherfucker out that night. In the back. Because they had a back door. They had a back door. I left my scooter there. What I didn't know was, motherfuckers was climbing on the scooter through a window.

Because the alleyway. Right. They climbing on the scooter through a window Cuz I let the alley right they climbing on the scooter my shit started leaking gas I thought my cars had to pay like 500 for that scooter shit But the bounces tried to front on Nordic and the nigga touch treks and Tres not the nigga clean Clean make some noise or tracks, goddamnit. Yeah, here real one. So after that shit, this the funny shit, cause after that, we still on tour, Def Jam, you know, all the same artists. We on the tour bus, Dirty come,

they make Dirty come and apologize. He come on the bus, I'm on Dirty, and I'm sorry the nigga leave and shit. And I'm sittin' there like, he on Dirty and he sorry, y'all. And we went about our fucking business. Went about our business. It was tough.

It was tough. It was too dirty. Yeah, it was tough. But man, I was on tour with you one day, and I don't know what my cousin did to you, but you said, my cousin, and you looked at me and said, no, we don't smoke, this is blunt, right? Yeah.

And I was like, I had to calculate everything. I was like, no, I don't smoke. What you want? Here, Kyle. That's good. He said this. Nigga. I don't know what you're getting at.

I had, like, it was a love boat. Dust and weed, nigga. Dust and weed. And you know, Mike. Come on. That was dangerous. Listen everybody. Mike has this.

But at this time he's the coolest guy. He's the coolest guy. But he's also like a bad guy because he's like the middle man to the big people. He's a good guy. Nah, he's a great guy.

Come on, at this time. At this time. So, we're all on, so I think we were doing the real world or some shit. It was like, it was like, no, we had took over the real world shit and they had flew out and I'm going to say this guy's name. And grab a jet. So, we're in Las Vegas and Matt just gives you the, and he goes, Lori, this one from Smoke Down. And I'm like, I ain't cool.

That's dangerous. I'm like, I ain't cool. So I'm playing a three card Molly with the blunt, dog. I'm like, I ain't cool. And Mike Kaza hit it. And Matt didn't even ask him to hit it. Mike Kaza said, give me one of them shits. Oh my god.

Just like clockwork. And he got me to hit it. And it was so fucking hot. Gone. Gone. Damn. But I was fucked up too because I thought them chips was real and shit. And I kept losing all my shit.

Scarface gave me some of his, and I was like, damn, thanks, Face. I really appreciate that. The nigga had to lean over after a while, like, this shit ain't real, nigga. It's like, oh. Oh. One of them moments, a blonde moment, nigga.

But, Jay, pick up to Mike Cosby. Now, big and small, that's our brother. So now, Wu-Tang Clan clan man. You can't claim when you think of the best groups What of all times not only do you have a thing of y'all you got the other most unique? Group of all time because the thing about it, it's hard to keep Me and Capone as a group and that's my brother, but it's hard to get us together And what two of us but he got management he got road management I got you know all this so for y'all to

be together for 25 fucking years 25 so you know do dick and then and we don't need to bring up the dick cuz we already got that song yeah no matter what we go through love these motherfuckers right what he said every and they feel the same way about you uncle maybe no instance of at one time police could fuck it's like y'all you couldn't lock us up you right you right You know You know You know when it comes to maybe Real brothers around you, you know, you got family around you. And they'll move for you. They'll do things for you, you know, when it comes to maybe, you know, other brothers or, you know, people that's opposing, right?

But when you got brothers with you, right, that won't let police lock you up. Yeah. That's like a different level of things. You know what I mean? Especially when you ain't even really come from the sandbox with brothers like that. But the love is universal, you know what I mean? Cause it's mathematically founded, you know what I mean?

We've been there. The brotherhood is really, really real. Math, man, math, math, math. Math used to ball me all the time on mathematics. Him and the guard, F and M from Queens, them niggas just corner me and murder me all day. What's that, mathematics, God? No.

I ain't got nothing. Goddamn niggas got me hammed up. Math. I don't know what the hell he's saying. What he talking about? What he talking about, the conversation? Cops got hands on niggas like this, and other niggas coming over like, no, you can't do that.

And while we talking to him, the God is. That was a flawless situation. It's a shot town situation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shot town situation. Mr. Lee, four-minute shot. Tiger Ball, whatever shots y'all want, baby. We gonna celebrate Wu-Tang Clan tonight, baby.

Whatever shots y'all want, you there. Let him pick thisTang Clan tonight, baby. Whatever shots y'all want, you will. Let him pick this time. Don't just give him Tiger Ball. I'm gonna take Mapshot. Look at this. This is Mapshot. Can I get a shot? You want Tiger Ball?

I hit that. Okay, I'm gonna take Mapshot. This is my nigga. We had Bounty Hunter show up one time talking about... You ain't taking nobody. You ain't taking nobody. Get't taking nobody he ain't taking nobody get the fuck up outta here dog you ain't getting nobody

I want a puff shot yo them road trips what stood out for me the most hold on what stood out for me the most was whoever sat in that front fucking seat. It's like with whoever woke up on-

On the tour bus? Yeah. No, no. We weren't in no tour bus. We talking about- We was in a 15-passage van, nigga. Right? Smell like arrows.

But it's like whoever woke up on Saturday first and you didn't let TV in the house, they had the TV. They could watch whatever the fuck they wanted to watch. So whoever sat in that front seat had that tape deck or that CD changer. I hated when Ghost got that front seat. Because he would play nothing but Doo-wop music. About four or five hours of this shit, my Jesus. Right?

But Killer, right? This was Snoop's shit drop. We damn near knew every word to every song on that album cuz killer would get that front seat and just press play no fast forward nothing just let that shit play and that was the crew pick up the Snoop dog that first album No, I mean many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many Snoop came out, but we passed that. And you got the TBS shit, you're both on TV. Make some noise for Mep, cracking that white people. You know what's crazy? The crazy thing about Snoop is,

Snoop, you can't even classify Snoop as a rapper, or an artist, he's a fucking persona now. You know what I'm saying? It's like, the dude is is he do his thing he do his thing Snoop is very on point with his shit man his whole business everything yeah but when you come up under somebody like Dr. Dre come on everybody got they shot? everybody got they shot?

Tiger Ball? look at U-Guard shit U-Guard U-Guard they got a bomb Tiger Ball You got They got a tiger a so Tiger in it shit let me go. That's my thing I'll give it to you. No no trivia Trivia Yo, I Wanted to smoke the drugs I don't know where y'all was smoking at. I just knew. I just knew. Yo, yo, yo, listen, listen, listen, listen. I wrote that shit for him.

Can't you handle that? Nah. Yeah, I like how you wrote that. I wrote that shit. That shit for a hard time. That what? That was crossed. That was the only thing.

You didn't say that bullshit. That's how I judge. I don't know who wrote that shit. That's what we can say that bullshit. I was fucked up just now. Cheers. I was fucked up just now. I wrote that verse when I was 14 though.

Talk about. No, you didn't. Guess I didn't. No was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this.

I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this.

I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. I was talking about this. extent of the wars though. Y'all can't even talk about the, what y'all got in common with Martin Moore being your manager, being on 36 Chambers. Who's Martin Moore?

He's the skit y'all doing the interview with at the college radio station. Wow. That was his manager. Who was that? Who was that? Damn. He wasn't your manager? At that time, he was an A-line. The skit y'all doing the interview with at the college radio station What do you want to hear we'll change the game he's not the nigga saying we'll take the game in the game in the game He's not asking a question We took a road trip to Rhode Island with, this is still independent, me, you, who else was with the chef, right? That was Mo.

And Mo, who, but chef was with the suit, right? That was there too. I just wanna say something real quick, and I want you to continue, but Matt, you smoked way too much weed to know everything. You remember everything. I remember that secret. Cause we're gonna hit you through drama this nigga. Don't get twisted. They get through drama, this nigga.

Don't get twisted. It's actually just smoking, on the fucking roof. Mother just smoking, just drinks, I remember everything. You know what, I ain't gonna lie, it was the people I grew up around, these niggas. It was something about Park Hill, we was just observant of every fucking thing.

Kill, nigga! You couldn't miss nothing. You you had and if you seen it you was on point period and that was the biggest thing being on point and shit we had a dude used to fucking do this to niggas pockets all the fucking time do this shit into these pockets all the time right no what in the tap up lounge used to go right in the pocket like that Shoot you but let me tell you something. That's my man. That's my man By doing that shit by the time we was young men, if anybody ever did that shit, we was quick.

Like, pow, you was caught. You talking about the lounge here? Okay, okay. You talking about the lounge? I ain't say shit about the lounge. I'm saying, that's Cap. That's still Cap. Boom!

Boom! Boom! Boom! That's still Cap family. There you go. Boom! That's him again. Boom!

Boom! The goddamn boomer. That's him again. Shit'll fuck up a package. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. You talking about me? He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short.

He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short.

He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up short. He'll come up a package, though. He'll fuck up a package. You think I'm O'Brie? He'll give you a package. He'll come on short. He'll come on short.

You talking about Matt? He'll come on short. He'll come on short. That nigga, fuck that nigga. You ain't give me no package. You nigga, you can't package. You can't show it to him. Nigga, what you talking about?

Nigga, what you talking about? O'Brie's coming out here right now. What's up, O'Brie? What's up, O'Brie? What the fuck? This shit, that turd, this shit. I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing Some old bitch right now. I'm good. What the fuck this shit the turd is you little? I'm just out of whack. I still love you. I still love you. I gotta get past this right now.

I gotta get past this. You never gave me no package, papa. I still love you. Come on, why did you get fucked at? You got it mistaken. Everybody in this hill had to touch my shit. You fucked that man's ass. You had a couple of keys, though.

You had a couple of keys, though. Everybody. You're the first to talk about me. You're my brother, but you know what? I still love you regardless. Yeah, you know that. But I still love you regardless Drugs in your house If it was, it was my brother. I was like, oh, fuck that.

I ain't no friend of yours. When I came home, when I came home, he had that for me, dog. I came home, he had that for me, dog. That was my brother right there. He had that for me. Nah, that's just regular street shit. Drugs is whack.

Drug dealing is whack. Fuck drugs. That shit is corny. I ain't saying that shit that we do. Drugs is wack. Drug dealing is wack. Fuck drugs. You know what I mean? That shit is corny. You know that he ain't saying that shit to be impressive. It's just real shit that we was living. Paul, from what year was that that? How can I be down in Jamaica?

My dog, you remember from, from How Can I Be Down in Jamaica? Oh, he gave me a, he gave me like a half a pea in Jamaica. This is the small world we live in right now. He gave me a half a pea in Jamaica because he couldn't cross the border with it. He just handed it to me. I'm in Jamaica. I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland.

I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland. I'm in Oakland. I'm pint of Jamaica because he couldn't cross the border with it. He just handed it to me. Oh, he's not an Asian.

I'm in Jamaica. I'm like, oh, see, you're a nigga. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Hold up, you my nigga. I said, oh, see, you my nigga. He gave it to me. He slipped it to me. I said, oh, see, thank you.

So I'm like, yo. Yo. Yo. Fuck that, man. I ain't hear you go. He was a smart nigga. You go out with I was smart though because he was in school getting good grades he had a nice college degree him at his college shout out to BMC because it's like that's just started from the game in the hustle that's what we did that leaves the time it's just a hobby that we picked up in the lobby I wasn't beatbox though that's all and that nigga right there like I said it's

a godfather the hill regardless but what I was going through yeah I was hustling I was getting my money but that nigga right there was my fucking brother oh that was my man right there man I love it though man not saying that's the Oh That's Remo. Who's Remo? That ain't Chef, that's John. I heard the Chef. You know, the man. Yo, yo. Shaq Azula, my lord. Man, fuck that, man. That shit, y'all gonna edit that shit out.

Fuck that. That's real shit. That's real shit. That's real shit. Real shit. Listen, we ain't even scratched the surface. Yo, we got history. We got history. You guys was the first nigga to do this show.

This is real. Those motherfuckers, dude. That was real. That was real too. That was real. Yeah, you got real. Smoke on the mic. I smoke with Joe Frazier.

Joe, man. That nigga, yo. That was a crazy motherfucking tour. Everybody hear the moment for Joe. I got another real man here. I don't know. Hold up. Yeah, I got it, bro.

I got another one. You want another one? Not my last, yo. Uh-uh. All right. All right. I was. Not the last, but thank you.

Oh, my brother. Yo, I'm telling you. I remember you bringing the bottle. Yo, listen, man. This is Wu-Tang Clan. Let me tell you something. What's that? This is pre-rolled. Yeah, this is pre-rolled.

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It's not good. Y'all got to say nothing. You got to relax. I got a platform where I'm just going to trash them every day. All right. And be like, y'all can't do it. Unless they're, like, drinking lean and shit like that. Because you know why?

It's horrible. You know why? I don't know. The reason why is because y'all was teaching the youth. Y'all was schooling the youth. Y'all was telling the people, this is what we did. Y'all ain't had to do it. You know what I'm saying? So there was a big difference as opposed to this era. See, the era that we all come from, you brothers came a couple of years before me, but the era that we came from was like, you know, the hustler era as opposed to right now, which is like the fiend era. The user era.

The user era. Like, hey, why do you want to... Man, man, man, man, man. No, I don't. Not to play devil's advocate or nothing like that. But you know, hip-hop... That's what they say. Hip-hop comes in different eras.

You know, it's different ways. I mean, there was an era that came before us where dudes were throwing on the suits to be more culturally accepted by... Break water, dog! Break water, dog! Come on, break water, dog! Sir, sir, sir! Come sit your ass down. Come on, come on!

Son of a... You're throwing us. This son of a bitch is sick of us. This son of a bitch is sick of us. This son of a bitch is sick of us. But not to play devil's advocate, but But not to play devil's advocate, but all that lean, they learned that shit from somewhere. And there's different cultures of hip-hop all over. If time didn't prove anything, it proved that

there are different ways to do this music. Because in our era, you knew when you heard something from the west coast it was from the west coast because you knew that sound when something was from down south you knew it was from down south you knew that sound same shit with east coast now when Andre 3000 sent that shit at the source awards about the south got something to say when niggas was booing niggas and all that shit

Cause New York had some shit on they back and it was granted, you know it started here of course. Plus you know New York niggas is like that. But when he said that shit, what we felt or what people felt to understand was the South was big. And all the niggas worked together and they all knew each other. And they started they own fucking industry of blue that shit you're fucked up now the error that I was watching

when they all started first coming in with that beat up cut and what was it going to be in those videos yeah bling shit like that so this is what the youth will see and this is what they was imitating you know what I mean and when you get into that that hole where you need it for creative shit that's where you will always be fucked up at because once you take that away it's like Samson thought his hair was his strength and once they took that away in his head he was weak now. What about the little niggas that say that y'all need that

well we yeah i know that but see that's why i said i hate to play devil's advocate but the thing we have to understand is that that music came for us they make that for us they're not talking to us they're talking to that generation and i get it this is why we want them to be a little bit more conscious of what they put into the minds of these kids. Because we know already, but what were we putting into the minds of these kids when we were robbing? Yeah, we had our message, we had a balance to it. But, you know, my whole shit was here, pick up this blunt smoke in here, BAM! I wasn't putting it in nobody's hands, but the influence was there.

And you can't blame the artist, because the artist is always a representation of the audience. Exactly. Because the audience is what builds the art. So, not to play devil's advocate again, I think there's a lot of things wrong with the music today, and a lot of the messages are way off. But it's not for us, and we have to give these kids more credit as of what do they want to follow. Because a lot of them are speaking up out against the shit now, saying that ain't what we about. We don't do lean and we don't pop pills

and shit like that. Right. And some motherfuckers, as you know, they getting the penalty by having seizures and shit like that. And that realization, like, oh shit, I could have fucking died. I'm never doing this shit again.

The same way a motherfucker that drink and said in 2000, October 2000, I ain't never drinking again. And ain't touched a drink since. That'll be me. I think we should make some noise for that. Now, Wade Wall. You just pull it up, my brother.

How you doing? We've been over here getting bent with the golf. I see y'all ripped up. I see y'all right now, y'all. Y'all all bladed up. Big guy that is blazed right now, fucking nice. And I see your waves is sharp. I'm off the gate, daddy.

Raven always been waving. He always been waving. Don't hit the back of my head, here you go. All right? I'm gonna send you out daddy. Don't hit the back of my head, here you go. You directing it right now. Please, please. That's it, bro. Cut the tape and beat right now.

Now, how does it feel, Ray, just seeing your brothers? I know y'all got a big concert together tomorrow, but how does it feel for all these years? Y'all about to celebrate 25 years. We asked them How does it feel like you know to be here together celebrating that 25? I'm just happy to see all my brothers together and coming to represent You know Drake champs with you because I ain't seen this in a while. You know what I mean? I ain't seen a sit down with you know what I mean I ain't seen a sit down

with you know just like this just really talking though so I'm excited man you know man just excited for both sides both parties man I'm excited for y'all man I'm on the last time I see everybody together why I need to see you I need to see map agency I didn't see none of y'all. But was San Diego or San Francisco that the last time the whole Wu-Tang clan was together? Rock the Bells? San Bernardino. San Bernardino.

Okay, all right. You know, I'm dyslexic. Yeah. It was the sand. It was the sand. It was the sand. There was the sand in there somewhere. So that was the last time I got to see that.

Now, so tomorrow is Art Basel, right? This is the whole Basel. I'm sorry. This is like September Basel. Basel, Basel. That's right. Basel. So that's the whole fucking world.

Is there any difference like how y'all perform when it's just y'all? Or sometimes it's going to'all or sometimes give me ray Matthew God master kill You know, man, is it different? Is it different when you know, the whole plan is gonna be here Nice, you know, it's just red. It's just as red, you know, this this is original red posse anyway, you know Before we was what we was was Wreck Posse. So when we get up there, it's like we always said, it's Voltron shit, you know? Niggas get up there and do what they do.

You get the best of everything, you know? You get the best of everything at one time. I love when I perform my niggas. It's like, it's the energy that come out of nowhere that I get from just being on stage with them. It take me back to when we first started. Every time. You know, just catching rec, everybody up there, you know, in competition, and the greatest way to kill a show.

Do y'all ever have to practice the set at all? Nah, we rehearsal. I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, it depends what kind of event it is. If it's something that's super 200,000, you know, we're going to think about it. You know? I think we get wrecked when we just get into the playlist, like what the songs are. We don't know what's going on. You know, the DJ, he come in, he, you know, he give us the signs, and then we go from there.

Yeah, a lot of shit being natural. I say the a playlist but yeah I go real real rehearsal like you Everybody will show I mean, but it's usually just a playlist and even when we have a playlist, you know If the crowd depends on how the crowd is feeling, you know brothers will go back in like and be like, yo man, if you got blah blah blah, yeah I got that, yo I can throw that shit on next and shit. So, sometimes when you're in the routine,

when you're in the routine, when you go, you know, it's like, okay, I know blah blah blah coming next, and then something else come on, it's like, oh, okay, let me fade to the back, let him get that off. But, oh no, I when we when we all stage and shit everybody it just messes is this everybody played a part it's happening it really goes to that five daily venom shit where each person had

their own individual style and people came to the movie theater to see those individual staff only lashed on to that individual status though kill is still It's dope. Killer. It's dope. You drink it. You drink it. Man. There's that little black shit in that cup right there. It's that Tiger Bone. It's that Tiger Bone. You want a Tiger Bone shot? I need you to get a Tiger Bone, baby. That Tiger Bone got me totally fucked.

Damn. You want to see right now? I'm gonna lean it right there. That shit got me leaning right there. You hear this? Do not call me. That's the shit, man. That's the shit.

Nah, but you know what it is? Let me tell you something. Again, anytime I ever see brothers that's legends in this game and that's real people in this game and I see them go to any other format,

in any way, shape, form, or fashion, I look at them and I say, this guy that you go to has to be a journalist. I don't have to be a journalist at all. I don't give a fuck if you get caught with your dick in anybody's fucking mouth. Right. That's not what the y'all do. The y'all respect his motherfucking life.

The y'all. And right now, they can't get no more legendary than this right on the fucking head So cool night you did it baby. Oh, yeah, I was so nervous He called me We got Wu-Tang motherfucking clan! If y'all niggas can bring them home! I don't even know what your mother niggas is, journalists. I don't even know! I know this is the most legendary group of all time. And I know we started our podcast, our media company, saying that we gonna support the legends. We don't get no more legendary than tonight.

And to right now, to this moment, to all these motherfucking brothers. And if y'all ain't making no noise for them, I'm making noise for them, we all making noise for them. Let's get it, guys, let's get it. And we like, drink chance. Yeah, right, like one of those. What's that, a stick?

That's that. A tarantula stick? What is it? Yeah, that's that. That's that. Joints? Let's go. Let's do it.

Think I might start doing joints too, man. So, so, come on, come on. That's that high peak wake up in the morning. I got to go back to my house and go to sleep. You like a motherfucker, but I don't so, come on, come on. I can't wake up in the morning. I like to have magic up. He like a motherfucker, but I don't smoke with a transition. Let me get a light. So now, so now, Ray. You kind of look too smooth for you, though.

I need to ask everybody here. I need to ask everybody here, right? Let me get a light, look. So now we here to protect your neck, right? Come on. After we here to protect your neck right? Mom, I did we hit protect your neck It's this quiet underground joint Muth

man Muth man, I need to hear from the planet how did y'all feel for real? Because it was crazy it was not a y'all. real Because it was Yeah, it was not a y'all didn't outmanish Hey shit is falling on his own listen at the end of the day real favorite We already had a solid game plan when he's coming at first. I know they already probably gave you the business You know he was already we was also coming in

Also satin allen shit you know i mean letting niggas know that yo something going on in satin allen niggas is ill niggas niggas is street niggas niggas do everything every other borough do probably do it better right you know but um it was always that you know that tension with us on getting on because niggas niggas doubted satin allen you know and we knew that when we came we knew we had a couple bro on because niggas niggas doubted sat-nav you know and we knew that when we came we knew we had a couple Brooklyn niggas sat-nav niggas coming together you know niggas we knew that we had something so when we came with those records everything that we picked out for niggas to hit it was already premeditated Meth was one of the most energetic, authentic,

rhyme-writing, crime-writing, crime-living G's out there in the street that we knew, yo, this nigga's a star. So automatically, when we sat down and came to the table, we knew what records was going to be solicited first.

You know? So when Johnny, a.k. Johnny aka that motherfuckin to Cali and stallion over there that flow when you know he came with that method man Becky we already know what every CH okay No doubt, son. Yeah, yeah. Yo, my pal. You don't know me. You don't know my style. Yeah. Come on, niggas. Get out of here.

I ain't don't know. We already here. Yo, you hear me? I said, this nigga. Who the fuck you think I'm in jail? Listen, listen, listen. I said, this nigga's crazy. Let me tell you something.

So like I said, you know, we knew that Johnny was already off to the races. Right. You know? So we already said, yo, he going to be the first one to open up the door for anything that we trying to do. Because once we hit y'all with the protect your neck, you know, we already knew, yo, all right, y'all know it's nine of us. Now, when it's album time, now y'all going to go by booklet, step-by-step booklet. Meth went first. You know what I'm saying? Now, Mef said earlier, he said that Lau actually paid for them. No, I said that Def Jam, what happened was when we had our deal with Lau,

with Def Jam, they wanted old Dirty Bags. They were dirty, had already had a deal. At that point in time, they could have picked anybody from the crew. But RZA picked for them and was like, we'll give you meth. So it was luck of the draw. Period. That was it. And I was happy to be there. You know, I was on that desk there and shit. Lottie, Artis, I'm the biggest shit.

What made you choose Loud for the only billbook you wanted? I ain't choose nobody. I was just, I was just getting in where I fit in. I was happy to have a job. You know, I'm tired of running from police. I ain't care where I was going. I just wanted to see us make a living doing something positive, you know? You know, coming from where we come from, it's like, it's a little ass window. So when we slid through that window We slid through that window

It was like Yo a nigga got a job I was just happy To tell my moms You ain't gotta worry About me going to jail You know what I'm saying But as far as

The deals is concerned As far as the deals Is concerned I was just taking it For what it is And you know When it was my time To do my thing

We was already Established with Rifkin You know The whole loud my time to do my thing, we was already established with Rifkin. You know the whole loud situation. Loud, I like the way loud was cause loud was like a crack spot. You know what I mean? For hits. You know? For y'all that don't know, Steve Rifkin started the street team shit.

Yeah. He established that on a great fat episode. He's the maker of that shit. You know like I said, when it was my time to do my dance, I was just happy because I didn't know where my life was going. Where'd you go to get your thoughts together for that first album, The Cuban Link? I already know, I just wanted you to say it. Oh, you know, we shot out of town, you know what I mean also some more some more vacation I'm trying to write my shit on the mountain We did some things man, but like I tell anybody any album from the 90s that we done I always say that I done that with my brothers

You know what I mean cuz they all participated in that they just knew I was on some I knew I was on some crazy hits, you almost shot me too You almost shot me back in the days I know my heart was round with Chef I had to tell a nigga yo, don't point no guns at me You what? You got it, you ain't talk about thaty I ain't sell a nigga yo bro point no guns at me You what? You got it, you ain't talk about that You ain't tell a nigga you almost shot the nigga

Might as well You ain't tell him that lord Nigga almost shot me you know what I mean Second look, look This is way before rap, this is way before rap This is on some goatee from when they first came out Slick Rick shit And you know me and you eat we love to go

get fresh buy slacks we use our slacks and golden rings shit right you remember that if you didn't have a handful he wasn't he wasn't saying nothing you know but um money hold up money get bigger we running around running around doing whatever we do and and we happen to buy some 32s, remember 32s? Niggas don't know about 32s. What are 32s? 32s, I mean, it's pistol, you know what I mean? 32 joint, not a 38, 32. It's between a 25 and a 38.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had two twins, Chris chrome joints, and we up at Blue Bear Lash. So you know, we knowin' at the end of the day, yo, we got them things on us and you know, he's super happy, he keep cockin' it back. And you know. He's on the record for us.

You know. We got threads back there. Nah, nah, you ain't got joints, nah. We flat side fade niggas, hot side fade niggas. You know what I mean? And I was cuttin' his hair, I'm a barber too. So, man what I mean? And he was cutting my hair. And I was cutting his hair, nigga. I'm a barber too, so why you don't know that? I don't like you joking that before.

I don't believe you. I'm talking to you, nigga. Until this moment, Ray. You know what I mean? Until this bad time. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I believe you. No, no, hold on.

This nigga in the hood was nice with the cuts. I knew how they cut. No, it was a great cop of popper from a great cop of popper. I cut you before I raised you. Watch the shit out, man. Yeah, I cut you. I'm here to get the shit out. I'm here to get the shit out.

I'm here to get the shit out. I'm here to get the shit out. I'm here to get the shit out. I'm here to get the shit out. I'm here to get the shit out. I'm here? I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you.

I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you.

I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before I raised you. I cut you before what that meant. I was like, I think so, man. Yeah, but I didn't know you was dead serious. Nigga, he used to do everything, man.

Yo, he was like, hold on, hold on. He used to come up my sitting hallway, because his mom was in the house. You couldn't go in Chef's house. You couldn't go in his house. She ain't trust you in the hallway. She ain't trust you. You got to meet that nigga. Hell, Paul Hill.

Paul Hill. Again. Niggas, here. Here, see my kids. My moms ain't trust niggas because you know these are the type of niggas that walk in her bedroom. Like, it's like, you know, like niggas is walking around the house so it's like, she knew I was fucking with the bad guys, but it was like yo keep your friends outside right now

He was like movies like 16 17, but how'd you almost shoot him? Look, let me tell you so, you know, we're playing around We in the room smoking They say, you know, he keeps Clicking the best company. he keeps clicking it back. He keeps clicking it, and then he pointed at me. So me knowing that at the end of the day, don't point no fucking guns at me. Hold up, hold up. That's what you did some sucker shit. Don't say those bullshit.

I don't know how to... I'm going to sit out the fucking window. You fucking loaded that. That's some fucked up shit though. You had no business having to loaded gun doing that. Listen, listen, listen. I ain't going for that. He was pointing the shit at me and I told him don't point that shit. No, no, no, no, no, no.

So next thing you know, make it in. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now, Cypher, I'm defending my case right now. Because for real, I know better than pointing it at my brother fucking head. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me.

When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me.

When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. When they get me. straight I know better than to point at my fucking head when they can On the street niggas are no Ain't nothing in there Any point out my man mom's window. And the shit went off. And I remember we both looked at each other like. I said, yo, this thing. I said, yo, you almost shook my life, B.

Why you going to point it at me? See, we knew that at an early age. Don't ever point it at me. Don't ever. My streets are scary. So you think I'm going to point it at you? at an early age I don't know my nigga, I'm your killer. Nigga don't point no gun, I don't know what you want to do. You know what I mean? But I was smart enough to say, move that shit over there my nigga. I was maniac, what the fuck? Yeah, we used to have, we was crazy man. I told you guys I was getting money on Statue of Liberty and all that.

I'm saying all the Statue of Liberty. Man, no Seth, no Seth. No Seth, no Seth. I don't know about you, but I'm gonna get it for real. What the fuck is wrong with you? Yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp, yo, Sepp Woo! Tag! When we say woo, y'all say tag! Woo! Tag! Woo! Tag! Yo, let me just tell y'all something. I wanna thank y'all brothers, you know what I'm saying? We ain't ending this shit. I don't wanna seem like I'm ending it.

But I wanna thank y'all brothers because y'all have like the richest history in hip-hop. And the thing about y'all history is it's hard to put the pieces of the puzzle together because you can never get your brothers all together. So when there's certain... You can burp. It's okay. It's Prince Champs. No problem. So when you get brothers together,

and then you could try the little pieces of the puzzle, because at the end of the day, I feel like I will take family, but I feel like I will always be a fan first. Of course, when you seen the China Club, remember? Yeah, but I was a fan in jail, like, way before that. Like, so what I'm saying is, it's always dope for me, as a fan, to just look at, you know, certain pieces of the puzzle and say, oh shit, A and B really does equal Z sometimes.

Yeah, and it's funny because to take it back to what you were saying about giving them they flowers why they can still yes yes we lost me god bless oh baby yes all right listen listen drink chance we always make noise so at this very moment I want everybody to be quiet let's give a moment of silence for ODB one two three peace he takes a flash in about all the DB. In my eyes, he's the general. You know what I'm saying?

I know you all praise RZA. I love RZA with every bone in my body. Right. But Dirty was the man. He gave us that. And let me explain that. Let me explain that to the maximum of y'all. He was the energy.

He was the one that believed in the crew thing. See, RZA is a shy guy. He's shy He you know, he knows he has potential but he learns from his cousins Which is which is the jizzah and on dirty. So for me being around being one of the first Three niggas that they really looked at on some MC shit Watch them, you know what I mean? And Dirty, he always had that charismatic energy. He was nice back then to us.

It was like, I'm talking about funky rhymes. I'm talking about rhymes. I'm talking about real gutter shit, you know what I mean? It's like they been doing that while we was out in the street hustling. So I'm a Shaolin nigga. I ain't a Wu-Tang niggaling so I'm a Shaolin nigga I ain't saying nigga yet Shaolin nigga so at that time with the Wu-Tang represent that was Brooklyn type of day now tell me tell me what it was it was MC's period and see my certain areas you knew who the MC was and the nigga and the nigga

that all the MCs was RZA. Was RZA. And, cause we would have, we called them cyphers because we weren't building but we were rhyming. And I remember when Dirty, cause Dirty would come and stand out in the line. Jizzle not so much, not as much as Dirty would, I'm good. And, it was so deep that one year,

I remember one year for Ghost's birthday, all we did was sit outside and rhyme all night. And I remember Dirty, because I had heard his rhyme before, but he never said them shits the same way twice, ever. And I got proof of that shit. I mean, you would hear the same rhyme, but he didn't say it the same fucking way. Whether somebody was beatboxing or RZA had a beat right No, he was switching up because he had music in his soul Music inside of him so this motherfucker To prove that he had three he had he had three different records on his first album that had the same verse on

Yeah he was a psycho He had three different records on his album that had the same verse on them. And a lot of people don't catch it because he said it different every time he said it. I grabbed the mic and I damaged it. I put shots on there. Then he did it another time when he rhymed with the Brooklyn Zoo. And then he did it another time with another record on that album. See, you know what it is? See, you know what it is?

You know what it is? It's, it's, it's... Jizzle is always the, the, the general. But Jizzle didn't talk. He let RZA... Alright, motherfucker. He let RZA be the three star general. Cerebro.

RZA was a three star hitter. You know what I'm saying? Dirty was a seven star, but he was just crazy Dirty I'm saying it was like we would be back here You know how that shit is with that first get on stage you don't know how to feel the crowd out dirty Give a fuck dirty go right out there. Yo, this is all dirty bastard. I'm gonna be with the Wu-Tang Clan He's the best motherfucker sort of play your Super energy and soul.

Yo, he don't even send the crowd with him. Yo, he used to get in with Akinnela. He used to get in with Akinnela all the time. I haven't heard about Akinnela. I heard about that. The niggas just toss him on stage all the time. Shots ring out of Miami. Shit was crazy. Yo, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna give you an older Miami story. I remember it just came up recently on Instagram with some folks.

It was one of his first solo performances here in Miami. Right. And my boys were supposed to open up for him. Right. I mean, actually, we weren't that close at the time yet, my homies. And something happened where he wanted to go on stage first. I don't know what happened, but they jumped him. Jumped Dirty?

Yeah, they jumped him backstage. Like, in the stage, it wasn't like a backstage. It was like backstage, you could see everything. So there was a tussle. You saw it. But he still came up, and he performed. Dirty Big Joke, right? And he said, yo, I'm always in trouble.

Come on stage and spit some line. Yo, yo, my boy said, Joke me, come on stage and spit some line. Yo, yo, listen. Yes, spit some line! Yo, yo, Dirty might have been joked like 50 times. Yo, and he joked him, and then he came on the show, Last Draws, My Dog's in Miami, and then he came on stage, and I don't know, I don't remember how much I broke back. CC, CC, CC, and OC, Dirk was, he was authentic because he always felt like, he felt like he do this for real. He just knew that back then.

He knew, like, yo, I do this for real. So, any place he go, he in Brooklyn, he gonna let you feel his energy. And if he's drunk, which is, which nine times out of ten, he's known for, that's why he's the drunken master. You know what I'm saying said he's gonna try you He's gonna take you all the way to that level to be like I'm gonna test your heart in the minute you blink nigga I got you that's the second nigga he was but he was coming through not only for more in him But he believed in a big sense of where I asked nigga man. He believed in a claim Like this is my shit nigga you don't sit back in the back be like hello he'd be like a

funky made a bottom was thinking what he mean about a broken a tour bus fucking the bitch underneath the scissors God Oh shit. Then he closed the curtain. Then he closed the curtain. Yo, fuck you nigga. You bloody ass nigga. Yo, no. This nigga young, bro. This nigga young. This nigga dig, yo. This nigga diggin' his nose, right? He's diggin' his nose.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. We slug across the border. Me and him. We couldn't get in Canada. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border.

We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slug across the border. We slugged across the border. Me and him, we couldn't get in Canada. We slugged across the border. And we couldn't get in because our passports got stuck.

We slugged under the tour bus and underneath the luggage like this. Back then in 19, before we first started, first started we stand across the border and got it Dirty and digging his nose nigga. All day like, and he picking. So you watch, he going like this. You know what I'm saying? And then grab you and be like, yo, you an L.S. You an L.S. nigga, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I can't even say nothing, it's like that's my uncle.

Yo, yo, yo, yo, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Let's go, let's go. We in Japan, we in Japan. We in Japan. We in the hotel room. He come knocking on my door. Do do do do do. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, all I got is Saran Wrap shit Let's hit the coffee and fruit. The old town one. Yo, put the fruit plate in.

I get the fruit plate on. I get the new trends. You came in and you got the welcome. This nigga went up in the tower and all that shit. He in my bathroom. Baby in the tower. Nah, hold on. How about the bathroom?

He said, thank you, God. He is serious. He is serious. Yo, this nigga yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo nigga. He's the real, like nigga said, even when we was making 36 chambers and meth broke everybody down in five minutes, like yo, you know, he's a psychopathic thinker. You know what I mean? Raising marvelous shit. All that shit came up his head.

When he said old dirty, he said, yo, ain't no father to his style. Ain't no father to that nigga's style. Well, you're bad, sir. He the type of nigga that, yo, he just the energy. Like, I used to think like he doing it just for attention. But it's just him. You know what I mean?

He been like that since the early days. He been a drinker, heavy drinker, a karate flick nigga. You know what I mean? Him and RZA stealing, you know, boosting boosting all that. They introduced me to those changes I wasn't No, it's a coming to help all down You face you Dirty niggas.

I think Ootay ain't the same. Without him? Or would ever be the same without him. It'd never be the same without him. It ain't never. Even though that motherfucker ain't made many shows and shit, what he did show. Yo, he was a motherfucker, baby. Yo, he was bigger than all of us.

He was bigger than all of us. Goddamn right. He was bigger than all of us. He was bigger than all of us. He was bigger than all of us. When I say he's bigger than all of us, it's because... He knew. He fucking knew. He just knew. He had everything. He was like the new biz. You know what I'm saying? He was bringing in the juice crew.

He was the juice crew. You know? He knew he had a bunch of sharp MC niggas around him that really throw that blade. And his thing, he was the leader. Even if you ain't say he was the leader, he know he's the leader. And the crazy shit about it is that he ran with another set of niggas that we call the straight cats.

Straight cats. Them niggas, they be in your hair like this. He kept the grindiest niggas around him. So we like, we like, damn, this is our boss. He comes through however he wanna come through. This nigga named Shorty Sistang. Shorty Sistang. Shorty Sistang. Shorty Sist nigga named Silly Sistang. Show this shit. Show this shit.

Show this shit. The nigga 12 o'clock. The nigga loved Tupac. For one, that was his man. He needed to see those niggas. He didn't get to meet Tupac. But he loved Tupac. And Dirty was a hip-hop nigga.

Dirty was very intelligent. That nigga party was smart. You know what I mean? What he was doing with RZA was like, you know, you the old Dirty Basque, and the Dirty one had a flesh that made him live that out, and that's what he was doing. He was living that out. Old, dirty, and he a Basque. But then when that love, all that love came in,

that's where Big Baby Jesus came from. And Osiris was like a lot of the from and Osiris my son alive to play yeah I mean silence he just sounded out what he was it was everything about him was oh so just what it was it was like that was really him what nobody said something like that he say something in the show and he pulled it out you know me pulled it out of he pulled it out of me because I know when he told me, like, yo, you a ill motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?

I was like, I'm taking it like, I don't care about anybody. I don't care about nothing. I don't care about what he's saying. Because I knew for some reason he seen something big in me. And it's like, yo, when they formulated that crew, when they started going to who they felt, that was an order that came from them. JZA, RZA, and O'Dirty.

They the ones that started to throw out that contact. Right or wrong? Yeah. Y'all agree? You know what I'm saying? What was that? You know what I'm saying? They was the ones that started to call niggas like, yo, go get that one.

Go get this one. Go get that one go get this one go get that one this is what i'm talking about we first started it was them three that sat up and said yeah what three you saying the jizza old dirty and risen they was the ones that was making all together talking about yo we're trying to do this together now clean and that's that's that's all my guilt so I'm like yo you ready I'm like yo y'all really ready they like yo RZA talk but he like here don't get in touch with meth get in touch with you know me you he was locked up so you he came home like right at the time when everything was give me come on it was like yo come on that's how real I shit is it's like yo but I I'm in me you be telling me like yo, he had to bring me back and say you saw my money get Cuz Ray was in the streets hard he was in the streets hard with power

He was doing his day he had the cake Ray had the game Rockets on over there with a ray had the game rocking but I think what's what's what's time what's up every minute nigga put chill I was 20 at night, that was 1988, man. It was 88. Little boys, right? Little boys. Statue. Statue of limitation. We good.

You know what, at the end of the day, yes, a key piece of the... We can't even act like he not here. He here and he's not gone. We can't even act like that because he's not here. Where we're lucky at is that the boss son, his first born, look just like him and he coming around. And the last time I seen this young man perform, the young god, he was on his game. I love the way he was doing his shit

because he reels his self in and it's like, he's not trying to act like his father no more. It's coming natural, you know what I mean? And I love that right there. Pick up the boss, young dirt. Young dirt. And he respectable too, you know? He respectable.

Now I gotta get to the million dollar question, man. The R album. The R album. You bought the Grilly joint, dude? Yeah, I'm out of this one, cause I don't know nothing about that shit. Who was on the R? I wasn't in on that shit. What's that? What's that?

The Million Dollar Joint. The Million Dollar Joint. That bought the joint? You know what it was? You know what it was? It's like we never, none of us never met the Skrulling nigga. None of us never really knew what was going on fully on how it was working. What was that album though? Y'all recorded it obviously. It was an album.

Yeah, so you talking about it. It was just an album that wasn't an album it was it was a formed album you know different recorded joints put together yeah it wasn't like it was built to be an album you know and um wizard students we we work with them we like the sound right and we did a lot of things with them on our own so when all that happened with the whole selling thing it was like the idea was great but the politics was still a little shaky you know what I'm saying and at that time we you know we got our own lifestyle we nigga ain't nigga ain't waiting for that you know what I mean we all inclined to know that

at the end of the day yo that yeah I heard about it I love you like it or not. It's still got done. So whatever happened niggas ain't get no I ain't get no money off and I care about that. I like the idea of it being authentic It was a good idea. It was a dope idea So, you know when it came out of that we decided niggas that it don't mean nothing. It's like It's there now, know what I'm saying Yes sir Farz the Scully nigga Nigga never met him

In his life Never touched his hand None of that We don't give a fuck about it It was great for the culture Period It was good that somebody Was able to just

Acknowledge that And say You know what Cause those records Was records that we did Having fun It wasn't built on What y'all think it was.

It was fun records. With the records on that joint? I did that shit because that nigga paid me. You know what I'm saying? Niggas getting money for it. That shit came out or what? Because when Silver Rain, Silver Rain hollered at me. I don't know how he hollered at everybody else, but he hollered at me personally.

It was like, I mean, I'm going to send you three records. If you can do these for me okay Scrimmally and after I did the joints I hit him with the price Where the fuck you complain from? We had to go back and forth and then that was it I ain't heard shit else since and this all this shit started popping up and I was like okay I don't know what's going on and I went on record speaking out against shit because that's what happens when you're not around each other a lot in certain moves.

And there's so many different players that, so many bosses around us, so many different moves being made. But if we all not coming back to the same table and building about the shit, that's when that miscommunication come in and other people get information that we don't necessarily have.

And we're in front of the camera and they hit us with a question that sounded really weird to us instead of this instead of um you know doing the homework because there's no time to do it the question is right then and there you react and i reacted to it like 88 years before anybody could hear it i don't understand and in the midst of all that i took my whole taste buds off to it. Even when it was explained to me what the album was and how it would be heard and things like that. It was just the whole circus turned me the fuck off. Because I'm very humble, but I think our crew is so much more bigger than that.

And our fans are so much more loyal than that that they deserve better than that I wasn't so personally that it was gonna be an album I was called by the same individual and saying that he was making a mixtape Who's the individual? I mean? My And all You know That's what I was told they became what it became and all you know

that's what I was told they became what it became you know I mean but I wasn't in the mind pregnant it was gonna be an album and do with the art pieces yeah now this is this cat let the songs visually from us I'm saying got a name to do surgery. It's like your in-house, it's like your in-house guy seen you in records. All that. Your in-house guy seen you in records, but he got good records.

He was gonna release that shit. He was gonna release it though. He was gonna release it. Niggas was like, yo, don't release that shit. If you release that shit, there's gonna be some problems. So that's how that shit wound up going into the auction. So he was like, oh fuck, what am I gonna do with it? So that nigga put it up on, he told us to poke the visitor.

Niggas put that shit up in the auction. That shit started going up with at least a million. The pharmaceutical dude raised the price on the pharmaceuticals in his profession. Bought that album, now he back in court again for that shit. The crazy shit is... Nobody never heard the album? I never heard it.

I don't remember what the fuck it was. The crazy shit is, right, you're sitting there and you're hearing this, he said something kind of similar to what I said, but it was totally different. Totally different, totally different. It's like, if you hear it off on me, that's what's going on there. But that's exactly... Wait, share? Totally different I know, I know. I know. There's shares on there? That's what I'm talking about. You and some young Anderson Cooper shit. I don't even know if he's registering those shares on the album. He's on some young Anderson Cooper shit right now. And E, you got the LS shit.

No, but that's crazy. So nobody technically knows what's on the R album? See, listen. The whole thing is that we play with each other a certain kind of way when we want to play with each other. Because it's like you always remember this jewel. The only ones that can get you is yours. We always had that saying in our mind back in the days. The only thing that can kill us is us.

You know what I'm saying? So a lot of things that go on, we give it a pass because it's attached to greatness around us. But a lot of shit just be tacky. It be tacky business and it's like, like you said, you talk to Mep at a time, he don't know what's going on.

He gonna give you that realism of what he felt right then and there. Like, yo, I ain't cosign that You know So it was one of those things Where it was a good thing And it was a weird thing Yeah

It was good though I like the authentic We are displaying art Like that We are giving niggas art Yeah This has been art You know what I'm saying

I already had the album Flying to national Luxurious art Anyway So everything is art after that came out anyway i watched that i seen that but yeah we make art man everything we do and then how we move with our people we very merciless we we always we help everybody man i think that's part of our blessings but like meph said we could always be better man but what's a lot of times I got things get just wiped under the rug

because it's like we pick it and we pick it and rap with it you know true very true how weird was it when the white guy said he got I You don't get any of my money. Ghostface killer. I got goons too. Wow. I'll destroy this shit. No one will hear it. Like your fucking last album, Mr. Ghostface. It sounds like a Batman movie. I loved it.

I loved it. We do not know, man. Knowing Silver Ridge, Silver Ridge probably put his ass up to that shit, told him to do that shit, who knows. But yo, you know, at the end of the day, it was a dope idea. Nah, selling an album as art is fucking brilliant. It's brilliant, you know. You know, I love you brothers. I have no idea what happens in between the chambers.

I'm outside the 36 chambers, but I listen to the 36. But you're in the park, no doubt. But I'm in the park. Right. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, because what's in the chambers is y'all chambers. That's trying to break down math. Let me change.

Let me. I'm trying to do it man you know so when I see that it's like dead it comes back to reality and I sit back and just want to sit back and crazy brother because they will never ever be another Wu-Tang Clan ever. And yo, let me tell you something. I go like these crazy moves. I've been to like, and I'm retarded because I'm sorry. Because I did Spanish music, so I'm going to places

that hip-hop is not supposed to be at. That shit ill and you don't even speak Spanish. And I don't speak Spanish. You speak Spanish on the low, niggas. No, in my mind, in my mind, in my mind. But look, I did a Spanish album so I was doing shit. And the only other hip-hop group I ever seen anywhere is always Wu-Tang.

Yeah, Wu-Tang. That's right. Wu-Tang. That's what you're right for. It's always like, I'll be out here like that nigga. I'm in Bogota. Nobody been out here. Right. And the nigga just come over here with a Wu-Tang.

Wow. He just threw the fuck out my way. He's motherfucking right there. I thought I was going to Columbus. I thought I discovered this land! And look, as soon as I come out, on the phone, it's now a war day! W's day already!

And I got these niggas' phone numbers, I'm like, I can't even do it right now! But, that's what I gotta give y'all. Y'all discovered the land, y'all, what is it? Black Moors, Remember Moors? The Moors. If you know your mathematics, the Moors conquered the land for everybody.

Black men, they struck oil. They struck oil, and they just was all over that land. That's what won't change the land. Yo, nigga, yo, we was Black Wall Street back in the early 60s. That's who we were when we came to hip-hop.

We conquered something that was so big that was really self-made. Like, we never, like, one thing about when we did our business, it was like we did it between us as a whole. It wasn't done on a political level. See, that's why I had to sneak and do that video joint. So as the political shit come into play, that's just only, it's a certain territory of that that you got to protect every time because you build something great.

But when we came in, it was just, yo, let's get the job done. Yo, listen to this nigga. This is the chairman. This is the chairman. So a lot of times, he get praise based on being the chairman. You know what I'm saying? And being a producer that he is,

it's like, he's so far. He's where you think he, you might think he in Bermuda, that nigga's in Antarctica. You know what I'm saying? So, he always come with his great ideas, and his, you know, and we look at look at it like yo you got all these rings so we can't front on you because you got mad rings from that perspective it's like it ain't always the greatest idea so this is

where you know we slow up our pace on a lot of things that we deal with But this is what you get from Wu Tang is like it's the realest shit. It's the most compelling shit I've ever seen in my life me just knowing I'm attached to this and for y'all dream tips to get one two three four five six you get me that's that's me right there i salute you the is at the same dance you know what i'm saying it's the who made the w the emblem M on me. Niggas got that shit on they ear, on they head. I seen a nigga walk by like a monk with this shit on. He in the same avenue. I said, yo, this is local.

This is local, man. Yo, yo, listen. Walk by with sandals on and everything. Walk by with sandals on. Don't even speak to me, man. The sandals, nigga. I said, see them sandals, nigga. The sandals dressed up like a monk and all that. Yo, listen. We big in Asia, man. We big everywhere in Brazil, man.

We big everywhere but Asia? We big in the world, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll take K-pop, rock, and global. We'll take K-pop, rock, and global. We'll take K-pop, rock, and global. We'll take K-pop, rock, and global. We'll take K-pop, rock, and global. We'll take but Asia? Yeah, I'm big in the world, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll take K-pop. Global. Y'all like Zulu Nation. Y'all took it further, man. Oh, damn. And that's crazy. And that's crazy because...

I thought he was a fly. It's the truth. I feel like... And that's crazy Who took it further man, that's Let me ask you a question. I say you go back to see Solo and What do you mean? Bull Busters, nigga. No, no, I don't know. What do you mean exactly? Bull Busters. Zulu and Bull Busters. There was a two-by-one, niggas. Niggas were kicking ass. I'm playing, man. I can't go to New York.

I don't know. Wow. They was a bitch. I was in the 80s. Yeah, they was good guys. But at the end of the day, they created the thing. Zulu was once branching out. He gave us everything in hip hop.

Giving food for sure. Food for thought, everything. And I feel that, that groove for the modern age took hip hop everywhere else. Who is the new Zulu? You know what I'm saying? Who is the new Zulu? Like, you go listen, listen.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna throw it out there. One night, I'm in Arizona. Breakfast place. I'm out there. I don't fly nobody out because I'm like in the west coast or somewhere. He's like, I ain't got no choice. I'm out there. So I get there. Dude say, yo, I'm short 7,000.

I'm like, oh shit. Shit real. They say, y'all, I'm short 7,000. I'm like, oh, shit. Shit, really? I don't know who called who, but there was so many woo and ruff riding niggas there. The 7,000's showing up. And it was just like, damn. When you get that dick, niggas got to relax. And then it's just like, damn!

When you cannot do it, niggas gotta relax. Yo, one of my things I'm just saying, yo, I'm making two phone calls. I'm calling for a brother. For some reason, rough riders gotta cool every stage. Yeah, they do. They on bikes. Bikes they do. They on bikes. Bikes, yeah. They on bikes.

And it's so smooth today. You just gotta be connected with the council. And for some reason, the council hit me and said, we got a whole lot of Rough Riders coming. Yo, listen, the 7,000 showed up. What's that little say? I swear to God. 7,000. Yo, it's just crazy because it's like, I swear to God.

Yo, it's just crazy because it's like, when you think about what we created, it's like everybody don't know how many members is in the group. You know, it's really 10 members. 10 members. And then you got subsidiaries. Yeah, they got like great diggers. Yeah, you know, a lot of leads. Kill a lot of them.

Kill a lot of them. What's the other thing? They got some job. Yeah. Yeah See the see the see, you know what make us you know what make us that that fly coat because it's like What make us that fly coat is like we Need to still knowledge and niggas while they making it, while they being inspired by something. So it's like, these dudes become MCs because they feel that it's a way to make a way for themselves to be heard. And RZA, he always been like a, you know, he's like a shepherd, you know what I mean?

Bunch of sheep with him, like dirty joints though, but, you know, he clean them up. He make sure they good. He feed them. He neutralize. He make sure they good. And that's how the cult became bigger because a lot of times, you know, we didn't really know who certain guys was individually but there's me already was an hour come through the rooms already in our own dance somebody

I mean I mean visit was the one that like I said he opened the door for many people he started to you know mention his mess and do his own things with other individuals. So we really wasn't knowing about them that much. But the ones that we did know about, they was more connected to us. As far as like family, relative, or something of that nature. But, you know, his thing was just to spread knowledge. And he started teaching all these young dudes knowledge.

You know, then you come out with a killer priest. Then you come out with, you know, a Sons of Man. You know, records that took hip-hop somewhere else. It took you on some knowledge shit. So, you know, they was deep into it. So, you know, I felt like that was needed for the culture, too. For youngsters that really want to learn from that. You know he he said something up in his own nature. I love you. I came King justice for my name like this but like this he wasn't he was

moved saying for the neighborhood he was you know just attached to us because that's our little son that we saw how to run you know because for real he came he's from so that's my son you know chef. We was in front of the building. He came to say one of his first See my nigga off the block He came back could control that nigga he was nasty one of the nasty See anybody in our neighborhood they knew when we was coming up doing our thing they wanted to be there but it was just a matter of time but some people chose other routes you know you know that that shit happens all the time how about Lou Johnny Sean shot no shoulder knocked up he doing his baby

the chunky baby to Josh I followed his own path to win and the thing about showers it's like I'm not gonna call the curse but it's like when you come into this business as a child or you and you have all you have access to all these things at an early age, and Shaw, really, whether y'all know it or not, even at that young age, Shaw was real. That shit about never had a good Christmas because who was Santa Claus?

That's real shit, bro. That's Shaw. And it's just his path was being in that youthful era and always wanting to turn up and be out and about and all that shit. You get caught up in the same shit the people around you and even if you ain't in it and that and that basically what what happened with Shaheen shit you know I go you know you got you got some weight but you just can't hold

on to it and time to help yourself and it's like he was a nigga that always went back to home went back home and hung around his niggas and you know how it is you go backwards not saying going home to talk to your niggas is going backwards but it was just a lot going on in his world and he just got caught up in it yeah you know he was a star man i mean we knew that from when he was he's a little nigga he was a little nigga, we used to push him up to the stage. You know what I mean? Yo, come on. Hold him in the air.

Let him do his rhyme. You know what I mean? And, yo, he live a real life. He definition is that now. I mean, 13-year-olds, like, you couldn't picture, like, you never got kids and shit. Could you picture your 13-year-old puffing weed? Yeah, that my style.

Or even puffing weed. Or drinking for that, man. He had access to way too much shit rest in peace My nigga, sir Really cuz I Spoken years That shit broke my mom's heart, but I couldn't understand it at the time and she could stop But the shit like raising our kids bring it home a bar yeah we had access to shit like that these niggas told you he almost fucking well he ain't

almost you he's playing with the country she shit. They ain't going 20, 10 a year, but can't. My cousin, niggas was only 15, 16 years old. Now, you as a parent, 15 or 16-year-old got guns, and they bought them shit they sell. That shit unheard of, man. Some of the shit we had access to, man. That's the younger that do that. We had access to. Talk about it, Cap.

We had access to. I always thought that was amazing. I ain't learned how to drive till I was 22. I always thought niggas was amazing that knew how to drive. We ain't have no license, though. We ain't have no license. We the only niggas in New York that used to rent cars at 15 years old. African cab drivers. From around the corner.

And then if you ain't bring it back on time, they report it stolen. From outside D Street. We get anything we want. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York,

and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and then we go to the streets. We drive a 98's, headed out to Queens, Jamaica Ave, headed out to fucking Brooklyn, New York, and back on time before the storm. We get anything we want. We drive a 98. Headed out to Queens

to make a half. Headed out to fucking Brooklyn. Palm Bellow. A-B. Before Racky's, I seen A-B. I seen A-B. I seen him too.

Yeah. He still in the same. What is it? Burger did not do it. My crash right where the car is. I smashed the shit out of that bitch. Niggas had access to a lot of shit.

That's why when you see shit like The Wire and shit like that, they got the shorties doing shit like that. That was us. That's why niggas can relate to that shit. That's why it's like an unsung hero in the street. We did that shit all the way to the drink club, nigga. We started this shit from the hood to right here. Even same niggas right there, man.

Way too much accent. Same shit we been doing that shit we sent right here, thinking about what we gonna do. But the crazy shit about it, niggas was doing all that shit. It's some niggas out here though from the clan on the low. Yeah, but we was doing all that shit.

I knew his moms, I knew his moms. He knew my moms, he knew my moms, he knew my moms. It was like, yeah, that shit was always, like it was always fucking there for us. They ain't no shit. They ain't no shit. Oh yeah! Oh yeah! Hey yo man wake the fuck up! The fucking crowd back there! Y'all make the fuck up! Hey! Hey!

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! It was in the projects, my niggas. Well, hold on. Shaq and Moms did not let y'all in the house. No. They just threw it out there. Nobody Moms is letting Moms in the house like that.

Because you know what I'm saying? You know? These niggas are just. That's soul food, though. Shaq and Moms cooked. We get through, and then he had to store a couple of doors down. Damn.

You had to. And the apartment. Somebody turned that apartment into a store. Remember that shit? Yo, nigga. Uh-huh. What you talking about, man? Let me tell you something, man. Tell me it. That's it. Yo, nigga. Uh-huh. Tell me about it, man. Let me tell you something, man.

Tell me about it, son. 141 store. We grew up in the ladies' night era, nigga. Shit, ladies. Ladies. This is ladies' night. Yeah. We got to be real.

That's right. That's right. It's like, don't cry. Don't cry. Don't cry. Everything. Man, look at that. Everything was going on back then.

We was kids. We was watching all this shit. Mm-hmm. But. We cousin-raped. You know was kids. We was watching all this shit. But... With Cousin Ray. You know, you know. It's like that environment. Like that... Our environment was a movie environment place, man.

You know what I'm saying? It's like... I remember back in the days when we was kids. It was like... The nigga I looked up to, he was like the leader. Love. You know what I mean? Love.

Fly nigga. He always get fly shit from his brother though You know his brother's older brother Killer give me anything cuz they're please sway front You know badly, so you know either either winner. You know what I mean is a nigga that a mustache rooms like take Mustache nigga hair on his legs nigger. I thought the nigger was a teacher when I first came to this school. He was the youngest nigger. Fly nigger with a full beard back then.

With a full beard. So, Amy, listen, listen. First day I got to the mother... You weren't my leader, but the first day I got to this school, he had on a suede front sweater, and a long chain on, a beard with some gazelles on. I thought the nigger was a teacher.

Yeah, yeah. You know, one of them... being with some gazelles when I thought that nigga was a teacher. Yeah, yeah. You know, who that, who that, who that love? He told my love. Cool ass nigga. You know love? Cool ass nigga. Love. Yeah, love yourself, little.

Love small nigga. Love, listen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jeeves and RZA and them niggas had a different story about love. That's they cousin though. That's they cousin. They got in the drama.

They got in the drama. What's the bullshit with that nigga cousin the guy that's the guy in the drama what's the with that love love his family though love we grew up together you know what i'm saying you know at the end of the day he was definitely a lead in the neighborhood to me in his own way he was like teaching how to dress because the cat cat was always poppy wardrobe okay cat cat had bad before the Okay and all that. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up.

That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up.

That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up.

That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That your good shit now. Yeah, I'm just saying. So what was happening in Brooklyn? Oh, the real shit. Tell us what happened. Tell us what happened. He talking, you know what I mean? But he's Staten Island though. I know that. I was over there. I was over there.

It's real shit. We all took off in the back, whatever back it was. We used to always look at the killer like's a Brooklyn nigga though with us right here. He's a Brooklyn nigga right here. I just got here to stick my mouth out. I was a downtown shoppin' Brooklyn ass nigga. I would screw more. I would screw more.

My first GoFundMe I would screw more. Everything. For years and years. Niggas stay clean. my nigga. Niggas stay clean. They closed that shit down. I'm still getting jewelry. They gone. Niggas, man, you got a good portion of

the family at the table, man. I'm proud of you, man. I haven't seen this. I haven't seen this in a while, man. I haven't seen this in a while. I'm going to be honest. I'm still proud. Yeah, man. I haven't seen this in a while. This is like a supper thing, B. I'm going to be honest. I'm so proud. Yeah, yeah. I got two left.

Look, look, look. This is how I'm going to do it, man. This is how I'm going to fuck with you, y'all. Got one. That's one is you. Yeah. One is me. That's right.

And then I still got more marijuana that we can roll. OK. All right. Come on, come on. Okay. Alright. Come on, come on. Yeah, yo. Roll the rest of that. Yo, where the champagne at?

We got more. Here, here. Alright. Shaka Zulu. Here, Cap. Oh, my bad, my bad, man. What time is showtime tomorrow? Because some of y'all niggas going to need to detox.

Nah, but you know what? Even if we need to detox, the thing about life, the thing about life, is that we need to detox. We need to detox. We need to detox. We need to detox. We need to detox. We need to detox. We need to detox. We need to detox. We need to Even if you need a detox, the thing about life,

the thing about when people get a certain place in life, is certain people want to shift. Oh! Oh! That's what we're trying to clash, the old dirty bad. The old dirty bad. Oh, fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.

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That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Listen, me, I got a great energy that's surrounding me. And for me to have Wu-Tang Clan to help support that energy in a certain way and say that I respect y'all, I love y'all. And if it wasn't for Wu-Tang Clan, in certain ways, there wouldn't be other groups. In certain other groups, if it wasn't for them ways there wouldn't be other groups and certain other groups it was for them they wouldn't be me so 100% I have to sit here respect y'all not that I don't respect y'all behind your back I respect y'all behind your back way more but I never ever thought i would see y'all all together

can i say something i didn't know i didn't know because because i heard about it right the call hit me yo niggas going through drinks i I'm like, yo, that's my nigga life. If he pull that off, that's dope because I ain't seen that. I ain't seen that. I ain't seen nobody do that. But I know all my brothers fuck with him. And trust me, Ghost would have been right here. Rizzo would have been right here.

You know what I'm saying? Niggas fuck with you. You a real Queens nigga. You a good brother. You a good fella. Nah, you a good fella. I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, me over there, I see you over there. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

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you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you I said you gotta relax. I loved him after that. I said, don't trust Queens niggas. They go to Brooklyn. I said, don't trust Queens. I said, don't trust Queens. I said, don't trust Queens. I said, don't trust Queens. I said, don't trust Queens.

We did it with Brooklyn Queens. You know what I mean? It was a different time. We outdistanced it. We universal, so it's all good. This is Queens, kid. I knew who the energy was. Southside. You hear it.

Go home, man. South. But lay in. And keep it moving. Keep it moving. Because sometimes niggas are just, you know, and you think the person that's cool with you is just not. And that's every borough.

That's every borough, but I knew Shep found his resting home over there. And I had to let him know, like, yo, chill. Just because it's not the same walls that you use over there, it's a different walls here, but they just smile more. They smile more. So don't you dare, don't you dare think these niggas, because they, they, they, they, they, Queens niggas, they got shape ups every day.

Yeah. I'm from Los Angeles, so I know Queens niggas. You know, you know, you know. They clean, but they think it's filthy. You know, you know, you know. They clean, but they think it's filthy. You know, you know, you know. shake-ups every day filthy yeah so we don't you ever ever ever ever ever in the history of niggardom

trust me anything that's happening right in your succubus You my nigga, I got your back I'm sorry, I went to Rye East to live in there You know I used to live in Far Rockaway right? Yeah, that's the worst part You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was a little nigga though When I remember the Chynax I remember the record maker Chynax coming out

Chynax, da-da-da-da-da You know what I'm saying? I was in Queens right there I remember he came back. I remember he came back. Chiming out. He heard us through all that shit. I was in Queens like that. I was in Hamels. Fresh is the word. That's when niggas get freshest name. Because fresh is what I do that. He got fresh where you at?

Fresh is the word. He used to be the boogie nigga. You know who fresh is the boogie down, boss nigga. Yeah, international nigga, man. But like I say, yeah, you never trust a Queens nigga, man. Nah, nah, nah. You know what I'm saying, man? Nah, nah, nah. Nah, get down. Nah, fuck that.

Niggas are way too boss. Queens. I'm a Queens nigga. Yo, man, man. That's him. That's his dog. That's his dog. Listen, listen, listen.

I'm a Queens nigga. I'm a Queens nigga, too. And I know my brothers trust me. Talk to him. So don't never say don't never trust him. But this a Queens nigga, too. And I know my brothers trust me. Talk to them. So don't never say don't never trust them. Talk to them.

I'm a basketball nigga. I ain't telling that. Yes, I am. We ain't got nothing against Queens. We love Queens. This ain't nothing against Queens. This ain't nothing against Queens. Southside 40 Project, nigga, man.

I ain't telling that. I'm not saying. I'm telling that 10 years ago. You don't want nothing basketball. No, no. You don't telling you that. I'm telling you that 10 years ago. You don't want nothing basketball. Nah, nah, come on. You don't want nothing basketball. Nah, man. Bony legs, bony legs.

Champ, champ, champ, champ, champ, champ. You don't want nothing basketball. You can just play champ. From every field. Champ. From every field. From every field. It's serious.

I can speak for Southside Queens. No, no, I can speak for the whole queen. I can speak for Southside. You were calling. I was saying Southside. No, no, I can speak for the whole street. I can speak for Southside. I'm saying Southside. It was a different era. I remember 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000. Talk about it. Man, I don't remember it to talk about it.

We just wanted to know what Run DMC came from. Hollis. You know what I'm saying? That was the loudest part. Run DMC rocked on 2 Summers. 2 Summers. I'm fucking this lesson. I'm talking about Stinkin' Channel. I'm kidding. I heard Stinkin's drunk right now, man.

Ray Kwan and Ghostface's projects is a certain kind of killer. Stinkin' Channel, that's so close together. I even heard Ghostface shot a nigga in a club. I heard that too. Well, you know, it's a lot of that. It's going to be a lot of that shit. Like I said said he was all in the same stand out with small and concentrated plus we separated from everybody my two bridges you got

Jersey on this side there is I don't know whatever I mean not there's a boss on this side very zonal and all that shit on this side you got golfers and they own that go to Jersey so we in between all that shit. And I mean, some of the moves, you got to understand, like, we wasn't getting no parties. We ain't got no transit system to get us into the city. And a lot of times when fights was popping off in Union Square and Black Court, it was those Staten Island niggas doing that shit. It's just that, you know, niggas always assault. Because anytime you go anywhere in the United States of America and you say New York, first thing they think is Brooklyn. Big up to Brooklyn all day, every day.

But Staten Island niggas and being concentrated like that, whenever there was a party or something like that, somebody got cut, shots fired, beat up, some crazy shit would happen. Even when it was like block parties and shit, and that's where it started at for me. When niggas were still wearing knockouts, remember that? Knock it started after me when they get you still wearing knockouts remember that Knockouts, that's what they used to call the leather gloves you put your knockouts on his official names We have to do can it up then when that yeah shit hit I moved away by the time I came back All these niggas look like wrong fucking men by the time I only left for a year. I

Was going to left when I was like 14 and a half. I turned 15, came back on my 16th birthday. The day of my 16th birthday, I go outside, niggas got scooters, Jordy on all kinds, I'm looking at niggas like, what the fuck is going on? Crack. It's like, Jesus, the whole thing. Not just a few niggas, I'm talking about niggas I grew up with.

And 16, 17 year old niggas. I'm talking about niggas I grew up with. And 16, 17 year old niggas with they own whips and shit like that. That shit I've never heard of. Way too much access to too much shit. Way too much access and I still ain't got a job. Still ain't got a job. What was that job? You work at Statue of Liberty?

My mother wasn't playing that shit, nigga. You had a job? You had a job before My mother wasn't playing that shit, nigga. You had a job before? That wasn't happening. What era is the crack era? No, man. I had a job in like 88, 89, 86.

I had a job in Mongolia. I delivered pizza for six brothers. For six people? For six brothers. It was a restaurant. It's called Six Brothers? It's called Six Brothers. I deliver pizza. Man, I deliver the pizza, and then the girl I deliver the pizza to.

Okay, how long did you work there? Like about half a day, maybe. Fuck this shit. I don't know about you. Listen, listen, he a nigga like us, he never had a job. He never had a, that's what I was just trying to get to. He never had a fucking job. You know what I'm saying?

That ain't a fucking job. That ain't a job. But what I'm saying is that our shit, our shit goes back to not having nothing. Nothing. So you know, even, you know as a youngster, you always something good a being packed bags or something or you can't involve with the neighborhood And a lot of times we looked at the neighborhood like it was a lot of money in our neighborhood So it's like it was only a matter of time that things is going to start getting You know forcible for us to get involved

You know when you come to stand out a park here Paul killings like Harlem It's like this like Brooklyn Harlem Everything all in one because anybody migrated did anybody you know say It's like you had that Brooklyn mentality you had the Harlem hustle get money shit You had that Queens fly shit niggas going out and they came to any club or whatever flexing it you got that Hollum in there Hollum and all of that everything was just everything just messed in together like a snowball issue and it was a main that made eyes coming through any day in it it was different and that shit crazy cuz Staten Island was where families is moving from Brooklyn in the Bronx yeah I get a better life because there's so what I

heard I was for what I heard walking off and you're bright at this time but when I heard Park Hill was beautiful like the way they had that shit built up fences grass and a lot of families from Brooklyn the Bronx unless she came out there for a better life I stuck and that shit turned into some... Yo, listen, mafia, everything. Everybody coming through that neighborhood. Everybody coming through that neighborhood. For some reason, it was just one of those places and you know everything.

Cold, crack, dope, heroin, whatever you want. You gotta come to Park Hill to get it. I got exposed to a lot of shit when I moved in. It was unfortunate, but that's how it was. You know, the circumstances that we came from were, you know what I mean? That's something that I don't want to say we was forcing

into, you know what I'm saying, but it was attractive. You know what I'm saying? We was like young motherfuckers curious about every fucking thing. And we was attractive. But that's what it is. That's what life is. It's a project. But it was a project. Like you said, it's a project. It's a project.

Nah, Park Hill? Park Hill is a park. Listen, listen. Yeah, but it was a project. It was a good office, but they treated it like a project. Everybody came to have a better life, and they said, well, let's give them this. Like you said, it was open for whatever. They opened it up, so it was a project.

Let's see what happens. Yeah. It turned into something else. You know? Yeah, that's a thoroughbred. You know, it's like, when you think about it, you like, it's awesome. It gave birth to y'all, right?

It created. It created some fly shit. They created some fly shit. They created some real shit. So y'all telling me y'all ain't prepared for nothing tomorrow. So tomorrow's a mystery. Listen, listen, listen. Tomorrow's a mystery. It's a mystery. It's a mystery. That, listen, listen. Tomorrow's a mystery. It's a mystery.

That's good. You know, we professionals, so it's like, when you're a real one, you get out there, you do what you do, you have fun, you know what I'm saying? We five-star generals now. Niggas just go out there and just entertain and have fun, you know what I'm saying?

And when you're natural imagine it comes off better, so we match you as we get up there He really he believed in man behind the wheel. All right, but you think We follow his lead on all we want to go back at you so You watching the whole field? So we get out there Say no go this way wait. Listen. I'm gonna be honest I know all y'all Tomorrow probably gonna hit copy off of some ticket

I'm going in the crowd. And I'm going to be like that. You're going to see the show. Nah, I'm going to put on whatever the hell meth got on right now. Grab some Earl Stevens. And I'm going to be like that. And this one, Leo. I'm gonna grab some Earl Stevens. I'm gonna leave it like that. And this one, baby.

You gotta relax. You gotta relax. I gotta tell everybody, you gotta relax. I'm just gonna be out there like that. I just wanna see the whole show. I know. Nice. I know. Holy moly guacamole.

I'm still a fan too, my nigga. That's right. Nah, I want you to see it, because that's how I feel when I'm still a fan too, my nigga. That's right. Nah, I want you to see it because that's how I feel when I go to a lot of shows and I love certain niggas. Nah, but it ain't nothing like a Wu-Tang show. Chill, chill, chill. You're trying to be humble. I got to stop you right there. Trying to be humble and trying to throw it like y'all niggas are just normal niggas. No, y'all the X-Men.

That's absolutely true. Power, power. You got it. That's true. Said the X-Men. Y'all got all type of superheroes in y'all pants. I see you in the Marvel comic joint. The documentary joint.

Yeah, yeah. Y'all like the X-Men. You know what's crazy, though? I've never got any flack from any of these dudes about comic books. Why would you? I mean, you know, that's the thing that people don't understand about the two different cultures. Whereas in the white culture, I guess they look down upon us geeks and nerds and shit like that. And that's not reality. Whereas in the black culture, we always respect this shit like the Hulk and shit like that.

That's why we always took to the Kung Fu. That's what happened with us with podcasting. Yeah, it was considered dirt shit in hip-hop And then we was trying to you know Everybody put their own spin on shit and make it there's you know what I'm saying? And I and I will say I doing a great fucking job over here or a fucking job Listen let me tell you something. We want that. We want that. We want that. We want that come up, nigga.

That's a come up, yo. Yo, you want a come up sheet, you know what I mean? Your maintenance signed it. I'm on the Wu-Tang Council. I said, yo, you sure I'm going to get up? All I need is two or three Wu-Tang niggas. That's what I said. Can we talk about, we only need like, we were saying, like, we're going to get up.

We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up.

We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We're going to get up. We-Tang mix up. That's what I'm saying. We talk about, we only need like, we were saying like, well we get two, then we get three, then we get four. So I'm like nah, we just got to do it one more time. You know what, Wu-Tang deserve 15 points. That's all we're going to do. As many times as it takes. Who changed is there 15 Paul? Because I can't believe that we actually got together and said we're gonna beat up our legends and they work

Like this is real shit. Like I look at I look I look at all the money I've been is all of that every one of the best recent interviews because he got so much hate for Moe. And remember, he getting them niggas to word answers. And he met, he don't really do it. He don't really do it. So respect to you for being here. Remember, it's at home, right? Yeah, he don't have to do it over there. And I respect it.

I respect it. I respect that. Make some noise. I get it, man. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.

I get it. Listen, I don't know where that part is going to be. And listen, I just want y'all to know, just in case y'all don't know what your brothers are gonna be. And listen, I just want y'all to know, just in case y'all don't know, y'all are at home. This is y'all home, anything you wanna say. And we don't want no negative shit, we want the positive shit, because this is what we gotta do,

is because hip-hop should be celebrated. When you in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, you got 12 years, 15 years, and they say, you're a legend. And let's keep, in hip-hop, they say, you old. Your waves ain't spinning the same way, y'all. That's what they say in hip-hop. Your waves move to the side. That's all we got.

Your waist, your shit ain't the same. You got a little gray right there. Like that's not, that's not. I'm about for us. We ain't never shit on Melly Mel or none of them niggas in the house. We can, we can. And they was shitting on us for it.

They were, but that's how much we respect the foundation. And I definitely never disrespected no shit on them or nothing cause I know these motherfuckers ate out of tuna cans so we could eat caviar. Them motherfuckers rode in fucking dollar vans so we could ride in motherfucking tour buses. That shit gotta start somewhere, man. They got chum, they got Ice-T, LL, we going with them man I ain't the same crap not to play devil's advocate again go man

go man the new cats if they come if they truly come from us and we never been suckers when the old older generation was saying the music ain't good enough y'all ain't got a message this that and the third what you thought the retaliation was gonna be They come from us they of course they gonna speak up for themselves if they didn't we wouldn't respect them and then we can Damn them for not being hip hop cuz that's not hip hop Yeah, one thing they should have took from us was, like you said, his other brothers didn't give us that love, right?

So when they didn't give us that love, even though we didn't care, we never made it known that we didn't care. So that's the only thing that I feel like this generation is different from ours because here is other people who we came out they ain't show love they ain't show marty love they ain't show nas love they show but you know what we did is we did we we ate that up right now i'm motherfucking if motherfucking if mother

if motherfucking mathematics say, I don't like Metro Boomer Slair on this shit. All he's doing is making an adjustment. He just, assessment. He just saying, he just saying, yo, that record right there, right there. And then, you know what these young boys are doing? What?

You outdated, you guys are doing That's not even what you even meant, but see that's real right there see but in the same breath We have to say what we say I'm not saying that you know These motherfuckers is right for speaking up for themselves or that they wrong. I'm just saying that they did it And I can respect that part of it, right? But in the same vein, when they're doing whatever it is that they're doing and shit, and we bad-mouthing their shit

because we don't understand whatever their movement is and shit, they have every right to speak up for themselves in that moment because they're trying to do the same thing that we already did, which is make sales to these people. So the same thing that we already did which is make sales to these people fuck the message because we know the message is fucked up we know that part of it but who are we to say what these motherfuckers is going to party to with this generation now the jewel is by us speaking up and putting that in the universe you got cats now you got kendrick's you got big You got Vic Mensa's. All these motherfuckers is coming with. I mean they spitting. Luda Hewitt.

J. Cole. Luda Hewitt. All these motherfuckers is. It's still relevant to speak up but don't be mad at the reaction. But still speak your truth. But don't be mad at the reaction but still speak your truth but don't be mad at the fucking reaction for both sides for one it is a difference right from like you said like we always gave it up to our ledgers we always gave it up to Kuma D, Mel E Mel, regardless to what they said, right? But I always see with us, it was always progression, right? If you go from the 70s,

like the Mel E Mel's, then you get into the 80s, the Tiller Rocks, and you get into the MC Shands, then you start getting to the late 80s, like the Rock Kims and the Big Daddy King. Then you get into the MC Shands, then you start getting to the late 80s like the Rock Kims and the Big Daddy King, then you get into the early 90s, you start getting Nas, Wu-Tang, Biggie Smalls. The progression, it was a progression.

So on that note, every generation did get better. So it's like a certain aspect because it's more of maybe it's more of an outlet because of the internet that you hear more of certain type of music. But you hear it well, it sounds like they went backwards. I think that's one thing. But then I also look at it also as far as the music. I deal with on a mathematical plane as far as us as being individuals and people that I take it back to the Willie Lynch separation between how you keep a slave a slave it's like you separate the older from the younger you keep them fighting amongst each other because that way the younger won't

get the experience of the elders and the elders won't have the strength of the younger. So you gotta blame the corporation at that point too. I think the record labels had something to do with that as well. A system that is designed to... But there's something that I say personally. I think when I say our generation, I mean like age group wise. I think what I remember is what I'm thinking is that our generation stopped being OGs and when I say what I mean by

that is we stopped teaching the youth we stopped being an example I don't think they stopped listening because I remember growing up in hip hop and the artists that I'm listening to are telling me to listen to or respect Melly Mel and Redmaster Flash and these guys And I don't know, that's not my generation Nobody told me to respect these motherfuckers I'm saying that we heard these motherfuckers And growing up listening to these dudes

In our era, we didn't do shit like that It wasn't a thought to think Oh these niggas is washed up Or these niggas is this dad the third even though there was like certain There was certain favoritism towards certain artists I remember going to a concert that had Queen Latifah naughty by nature Kid play now you know who's the art man out there. Kiddie Play. I like Kiddie Play. But in that environment right there,

the crowd was not feeling them, nigga. I wanted to see that show. But they did like four or five songs when the crowd went and fell and got up. Nornay came on, blew that shit up. P.E. came on, blew that shit up. Now, the way this hip-hop shit has always worked, in my opinion,

is when Melly Mell and the niggas came out, they was doing the Go-Go Boots shit, the beads and all that shit, the Zulu came out, they was doing the beads and the shit like that and the kids rebelled against that shit. Okay, I think it started with like Cool O.D. when he went at Busy B with this, the ball ball, that shit ain't gonna work tonight. We gonna sing this shit. Then the era that came out of that, they was like, look, we don't rhyme like this no more. We rhyme like LL fucking Cool J.

This nigga look like one of us. He was the youngest nigga at that point to be rhyming signed on a record. So now we like, okay, we like this shit. Which went against what Mo D and them niggas was doing, right? Mo D even tried to come at LL based off of that shit. You know what I mean? Even Run DMC, not to pass those dudes up,

but they gave us something that was totally different where they bridged the gap to get us where we are now, where dudes is nominated for Grammy's, not just nominated, but winning and being able to present and perform because they crossed that rock and roll boundary. Now you get to that era where Kane and Rock Kim and them niggas was there,

all of a sudden nigg sudden started throwing on suits we could not identify that shit because we didn't have this money for me she can't have Madonna and But this was hip-hop trying to be accepted by a audience that didn't care. You know what I'm talking about? Hold up, hold up, hold up. Let me get to the flashpoint and then I can finish. Hip-hop getting to the point where it was like, no, why should we have to conform and throw on a suit for y'all to see who we are? This is where a Wu-Tang come in, a Nas come in, you know what I mean? And people from that, yo, first of all, it's Anis.

Give them they props. Because they props. Yeah, Anis, they fucking props. And WUA, they props gotta be Dupes. I live up to that. I live up to that. You listen to Rakim's early records, Rakim ain't even cursed on them fucking records. You understand?

This is what I'm trying to say to y'all. Look, this is the thing. Everything you're saying is from the perspective of New York. You understand? You know what I'm saying? I'm a Miami Dupes. On my melody. Everything you're saying is the perspective of New York.

Y'all getting it firsthand is coming to y'all right there. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? One time. I'm a Miami dude. On my melody. Everything you're saying is a perspective of New York. Y'all getting it firsthand. It's coming to y'all

right there in the borough. Yeah. We not getting it like that. Y'all was getting it from Houston and all these places. No, it's taking time

to come down to us. It's in Miami. Let me explain. It's taking time. Let me say something. Let me say something. Talk about it. You got to understand it, that, right? You can't

hold a generation responsible for something that they didn't know about because they was young. You know what I mean? So it's like today's generation, they only know what they know because they haven't seen what we've seen. And they might have seen a little bit of it. So for us move for the rule It's like we decorated they they know automatically they've never been a time when they get it's honest Anytime I heard of it What's that? I was on a shama, you know, like like like shit on whatever I Seen that or whatever. I ain't seen that. People over us and people over us doing that. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Just the respect level. The respect level from the younger G's. But they know certain people. It's like if I see

Slick Rick, I know who that is. Absolutely. It's like, yo, that's Slick Rick. But Slick Rick was doing his thing in his time.

We doing our thing in our time. So now they doing anything in their time. It all is a cycle. You. So now they doing their thing in their time. All this is a cycle. You know what I mean? Now it's a little different because

Cats may not be as creative as we was. So they going back to that having fun chamber. Which was at one point how we felt about our generation before us.

Biggest Cat was everybody was fun. Everybody was you know what I mean? They was still authentic. They was still making albums and being real credible. Fresh is the word. That's what sometimes we're missing.

We're missing them saying that the jewels that's there for them to take, just take a little bit more of it. Just take a little bit more and create something bigger. Right now it's just, yo, you can't knock it for having fun. You know what I mean? We all have fun before. You can't knock it for having fun. You can't knock it for having fun.

Have fun. Have fun right now. It's a fun time. Yo, you see, I've been linking. I'm pissing like a racehorse right now. You know what I'm talking about? I was trying to finish is over all those eras with lyricism. We always respected somebody who played with sharp, deadness. So the way the game flipped again, because we rebelled against the sounds and all that shit. The way it flipped again was they rebelled against the words.

Fuck that, you ain't gotta say all that shit. We saying this shit here. Now it's not as much about the lyricism, but it's coming back to that shit. But it wasn't about lyricism as much as a vibe. Because everybody was partying at that point in time, and that precedent was set by the niggas that came before they came. The only problem is the part of paying homage. You know what I mean? And it's unbelievable how that shit worked in the South, because all those motherfuckers unified together to take over shit.

When they didn't ride the 6th. The whole Wu-Tang had a problem with another artist, not us. Only Dirty Akimeli. Dirty, I fucking know. You crazy, bud. Shut up. Shut up Akimeli. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga.

That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga.

That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga.

That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. That's our nigga. Put it in your mouth, that motherfucker. Yo, we fuck with Al Canely. Listen, yo, we fuck with Al Canely. That's our nigga. When we was dirty, it was wrestling on stage. All the time. And yo, look, we got to show them who we are. And all of you.

And all of you. Let's make some more Q&A, bro. See, we ain't sleeping. Let me just say something. Let me end it like this. There's never been a group like you guys. At all. And there will never be a group like you guys. Appreciate you.

I am honored. I am. I don't even know what I'm doing. Don't cry, nigga. Just don't even know him no more because he no dyslexic. Don't cry, nigga. Just don't cry. Don't cry. Just don't cry. You got that drool look. You look like you might shed a tear.

Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. No, because you know why? Because I looked at ESPN Sports and I looked at First Take and I said First Take is dope and that's one of my favorite shows but how can the players relate to first take when either one of these niggas never played a sport in they life so then I started to look at what's the shit with the Shaq LeShack, and Kenny Smith, and Charles Barkley.

And I said, damn, where's daddy for hip hop? Where's the niggas that been in the locker room and been on tour with niggas and can say, nigga, I remember you, You ate at the coffee then. Right. I see where you're going with that. You was in the Red Bull van. I remember you.

When it was come the time of Mr. Charles, you got lost. It happens. It happens. It happens. So where's the platform for the people that's legends and that want to keep respecting our legends and there's certain people and there's not a platform that like that exists. So I look and I start watching people's interviews and I watch Mef's interviews because Mef is out there promoting shit. Mef ain't comfortable with these niggas at all. That nigga right there is too anti. He's gonna mix with Will Smith.

That's the Will Smith one. I ain't gonna mix with nobody but I'm gonna mix with him. That's the cow. Let me tell you. That's the real Smith. I ain't gonna next nobody, but I'm here. Let me tell you, I'm brief with the answers because I'm a student of this shit. I'm brief with the answers because Michael Jackson said any answer that you can give under 30 seconds to a minute is an efficient answer for anybody. You gotta keep it moving, man. You know what I mean? Time is promotional.

But, down here in Dream Chance, in Dream Chance, man, I'm? Time is promotional. But not here at Dream Chance. Dream Chance, man, we're sitting here having fun. And you know what it is? Because hip-hop don't have that platform that we can sit down and just say, Yo, I appreciate that time y'all niggas went to Palladium. Y'all got me in it. And I couldn't get in. I appreciate that.

This platform has to exist. It's reciprocal, bro. It's reciprocal. You know what I'm saying? Because if it wasn't for Wu-Tang, my timeline might be fucked up. But if it was for Wu-Tang, there wouldn't be a Nas, right? Right? If there wasn't a Nas, there wouldn't be a Mark D.

If it wasn't a Mark D, there wouldn't be a Nor. There wouldn't be a component of Noria. So we're all six degrees of separation. And we have to, of sipping sit around and say oh you gotta say that's dope

we all came through the fucking same umbrella through some way some way let's fucking

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fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck Fuck with each other. That's right. And that's what you do normally, you know? You know what it is. It's like, off the record, you're one of my favorites in the game, you know? Your personality is always, you know, honest and clear. And, you know, that's why everybody fuck with him. You know what I'm saying?

We fuck with Nori because he want us. You understand? And, yo, like I said, I'm happy that you just, this made me feel good, you know what I'm saying? Just to see that my brothers come to the table and we all, you got half, and the other half is, you know they there for you still, you know? So it's like yo, Dream Champs is ESPN of rap right now

Let me just say something we won't take this picture Also I can't be so thankful so much. Capadon, fucking Matt the Man, putting them beats together. I'm definitely, listen, Matt the Man, I'm not sure if they're taping this right now, you gotta give me a beat, Matt the Man. It's in some of those.

You got one. Queens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Queens. Yeah, yeah. Me and you, this is a side conversation. You definitely gotta give me a beat. You guys back in the building. Master Killer, Met the motherfucking man.

Capital motherfucking dog once again. I can't thank Wu-Tang Clan for coming here because the thing about people getting information, that people getting anything has shifted. Right now, anytime it's more than two or three members of Wu-Tang Clan, y'all will be on the radio station but I'm here to show you all the new millennium because I'm gonna talk and ask you so every time y'all want to come back you got a platform? that smells good flint like theater you been had a platform

you know what it is, you did had a platform but We don't know how many days. You did have a platform. But let me just tell you something. Scooby, not one of them was with people from the new generation. That's not because I don't got love for the new generation. I do. I got love for them. You never know what you might get from the world. No, no, no. What I'm saying is,

this is a platform for us. You might not understand what you came on today. This is a platform for the older gods. Not the older gods. This is a platform for legends. This is a platform for niggas that put in their fucking work. And this is a platform for legends. This platform's for niggas that put in their fucking work.

And this is a platform for us, gonna big up the fucking work that you fucking motherfuckers put in. When I say woo, y'all say tang. Woo! Tang! Woo! Tang!

When I say woo, y'all say tang. Woo! Tang! Woo! Tay! Woo! Tay! When I say woo, y'all say Tay! Woo! Tay! Woo! Tay! And I just want everybody from Wu-Tay to know, salute, that we love y'all at Drink Champs. Anytime y'all ever wanna come, collectively, separately,

totality, I'm trying to use big words, I don't even know what I'm saying. I like to speak I like your speed. I'm trying to use your speed. I love you my niggas. You know where it is. Y'all niggas is cousins. Y'all two niggas right there, cousins. That's not niggas. That's not niggas right there.

These two niggas are cousins. Wow. We're going to look at this. We're going to look at this. We're going to look at this. We're going to look at this. We're going to look at this. We're going to look at this.

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