Drink Champs - Episode 116 w/ Fat Joe
Episode Date: February 13, 2018N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Drink Champs Alumni, Fat Joe. The guys talk the Grammy's, Jay-Z, Roc Nation, 50 Cent, Reggaeton, the legacy of Big P...un and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Alright, so right now, I introduced him last time.
First of all, I need no introduction.
No, I'm going to give you an ill introduction.
He's the Puerto Rican Puff Daddy.
He's been out there constantly smacking you with hits every year.
But I got that.
At least twice.
He just smacks you.
Everybody says he can't do it again.
He don't stop.
He does it again.
He's been down since FJ560 Leathers.
I used to go to the Bronx.
They used to give me 560 Leathers.
They were like Avericks and 8 Ball had a baby, and it was FJ560, and they had Leathers in the Bronx.
It's a scuppet who I think one of the illest lyrical people in the world goes by the name of Big Pun.
Rest in peace.
He's now still out here relevant in this game
And he's even got a podcast in case you don't know
Drink champs people know I don't need no introduction
because I popped this motherfucking
That's right!
I was the first one!
I was the first motherfucker to pop this shit!
Don't fuck in front of me man!
I'm home nigga!
And before we get to You're a cripple, you're a nigga. Yo, yo, man, that's funny. Go get some salt. Go get some salt. Yo, stop. He's my friend.
He's my friend.
I like him.
I see them dancing behind Pop.
I'm sorry.
It's crazy.
Yo, stop being a table.
Yo, it's like an earthquake in this motherfucker, you know?
It's all right.
It's all right.
You know that nigga Pop.
We're going to get to that later.
You got to stop.
It's on Clemson Live's cameras.
All right, but before we get to everything,
Coca, Vision, everything,
I want to know, because you spent,
you was one of the people that was at the Grammy,
the Rock Nation brunch,
which was like one of the illest brunches I've ever seen.
I was trying to lose weight, so I didn't go.
I stayed home.
You know what I mean?
And I stopped.
I'm smoking cigarettes, and I knew
that if I go to New York for those days,
I was going to smoke.
So I kind of picked my health
above my business.
So what you trying not to smoke?
Cigarettes.
I smoked for 22 years.
I believe in you.
I figure I want to live.
I'm proud of you, man.
You should leave.
Thank you.
You should live.
You know I never smoked
a cigarette in my life.
I know, man.
Not once.
I know, I know.
So let's get to the brunch, right?
So they invite you to this brunch. let's get to the brunch, right? So, they invite you
to this brunch.
Everybody's there.
How does that feel,
you walking in?
Because Fat Joe,
let's be clear,
your name was
Fat Joe the Gangster.
I'm the realest nigga
in the game.
Yes, and people
should be scared of you.
You never was invited
to these type of brunches before.
And not to mention
the history that you had
with that model.
Listen.
How does it feel? How does it feel? Because I feel like that too. Y'all niggas, that model. Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy. Listen. How does it feel?
How does it feel?
Because I feel like that too.
Y'all my nigga.
Y'all my nigga, listen, man.
They let me in now.
Yeah, they let you in.
It's always, they always got to talk gangster shit to me.
Right, yeah.
So Jay-Z huddles up with me in the corner for like a half an hour.
I can't tell you what we talking about.
But he's just spitting shit I don't need to know.
I'm looking at him telling him, Ain't I had a couple of drinks
Hold on you my nigga
I don't need to know this
Why you gotta tell me this
Why everybody wanna tell me
They secrets man
Like I told Jay Z
I told you too
I said yo
I probably could tell you
Where to find Hoffa right now
Everybody wanna tell me
Yo so I'm like
Yo Jay we good my nigga
You ain't gotta
We good man
It's brunch, man.
But it's crazy.
Yo, be careful.
You know you're not that good.
Be careful.
Back up.
Don't shoot nobody.
We don't trust a nigga.
So you got.
He's a shooter.
He's a shooter.
So how does it feel?
Because you got, like, people like Mark Pitts running around.
You got people like Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys.
Everywhere you see is just money.
Like, how does that feel?
Like, just being in that. We the realest niggas
In the game
Right
I keep telling you this
My nigga
Like we come in
Like you know
I guess
You the only way
For you to be successful
From um
Coming from left rack
And coming from
Where you want to
You gotta have
A certain confidence
About you
And your music
And everything
With me when I walk
In the building
I really think
I'm fat yo
Like you know It's real shit.
Right, of course.
So it could be at a bunch or it could be fucking with billionaire niggas.
Right.
I'm Fat Joe, my nigga.
So I come in there like-
Yeah, nothing changes.
Yeah, I'm Joe Crack.
Like, what's good, y'all?
Right.
Y'all got some texture in here.
Y'all got a real nigga in this motherfucker floating around this bitch.
Mm-hmm.
And the food was amazing.
The food was-
That's the only thing i didn't see in
the pictures oh man i didn't see nobody here because i was eating
and remy remy met me right at the door when i got in and she was like yo bro
walk around first please because i'm one of them niggas i'll take a plate to go before I walk right into the room like
yo she's like yo bro you looking crazy nigga go say what's up to some niggas
man I said I said what's up to like five niggas came right back to the floor I
was hungry now now because what was this brunch at, though? Was it a restaurant? It was serious.
It was in 9-11.
Yeah, World Trade Center.
9-11.
It was some shit, my nigga.
To go in there, you had to be searched like the airport.
Damn.
Like, they had to...
You had to take your shoes off, your belt, shit.
Or like go on a tunnel.
TSA, my nigga.
Like Rikers Island on a tunnel?
Like Rikers Island.
Like, no, no, for real, man.
No, good.
They just wasn't that advanced.
They didn't put you on a seat.
That's right. That's right. Seems you got a raise on your ass. Yeah, they put you on the seat
Joe sir, I'm gonna take sir, I'm gonna take it with some club soda, man, you know, I don't drink like that, but I'm going to drink like that. He did not drink on the first time. No, I don't drink.
This is special.
But then we went to his sneaker store,
and he did drink a little bit of water. I remember.
He drank a little bit of water.
He's promoting.
He was promoting.
He almost killed all of us drinking that shit.
We not drinking that no more?
Fajal, we not drinking that no more?
Let's just know we not drinking that no more. So what do I do with my Mariah? Are you an afro-Cuban?
Ooh, this is going around.
What's this going around?
Is this really going around?
I'm not a Negro.
I'm selling some shit like this.
I'm not a Negro.
Are you an Afro-Cuban?
I mean, I guess I'm not.
I guess I'm a Euro-Cuban.
I don't know.
My parents...
Yo, my nigga, this is crazy.
My history goes to Spain.
Okay, when you say...
And Taino.
I'm a little Taino in there.
You know, when you say Afro-Cubans, those are people who identify that Cubans actually came from Africa.
That's all you're saying.
No.
That's what you're saying.
No, no, no, no.
That's what that means, right?
No, listen, listen.
Nah.
You guys listen.
I don't know what it means.
There's more culture.
I don't know what it means.
I'm just playing.
But niggas be on my Twitter now.
Are you an Afro-Latino?
I'm like, nigga, I'm black.
Get the fuck out of here.
Our culture is Afro-everything.
Yes, I'm trying to say this.
Our culture as Latinos is Afro-everything.
Let me give you a historical fact.
At one point, no disrespect, because we got some Cubans that get offended.
But at one point, there was 8 million Cubans in Cuba, and 3 million were actually Cuban.
The other 5 million were slaves, African slaves.
So this is a hidden fact.
But wait, wouldn't that be more?
In slavery time.
But wouldn't you define that better as the other ones are Spanish, Spaniards?
No, no, no.
I would define it as, let's just say people from Cuba.
They're natural born citizens.
Natalinos.
People naturally born in Cuba were 3 million, and there were 5 million African slaves there.
And they was doing a whole lot of fucking, my nigga.
So, niggas got some African in them, man.
Of course.
I don't know.
Of course.
For niggas having African in them.
Of course.
So, yo.
I mean, we're going to bounce all over the place.
But did you ever think you'd be here this long?
Like, for real.
Because honestly, you know, I hear your story all the time when I think about Chris Lighty, right?
And I think about you saying Chris Lighty brought you to Relativity Records, right? And I think about artists that was on Relativity Records at that time prior to you and after you. And there's
probably about, there's not even a handful
of artists who survived
that era, like who's even there.
I looked at Kadar the other day. I was in
the Soho house. I seen Kadar and I was just like,
I had to give him a five and a hug
just to see. He's rich. He's rich.
He survived. He's rich. He's still out here.
And it made me think.
I love Kadar
because Kadar
is the nigga
who let me put
Joe the Singer
on Big Pun's record
nobody even knew
who Big Pun was
that's right
because
because of my relationship
with Kadar
he sent Joe the Singer
and matter of fact
Joe the Singer
has sold like
a half a million
that week
that was like
he was the biggest nigga
in the game
and he came
and he sung on Big Pun shit
so Kadar changed
my life. This is Kadar Entertainment, Kadar, right?
Yeah, he lives in Miami.
He lives in Miami. I got to see him the other day.
So, what I'm saying is
did you ever think
you would last this long?
No way. And then, not only last
this long, because some people are just, they can just
float. You're not floating. You're on top
of a yacht. Yo, my nigga, let me tell you something you know this people like this but that's what you said no
way that's all no way no way let me tell you something this new single nori that he never
thought this new single right i haven't dropped the record right since leaning back pick it up
pick it up okay they got 600 spins on mix show not even ads in one week. So this motherfucker looking like it's going to be a missile on these niggas.
2018 for your ass.
How did you clear that sample?
You know, Tupac scored.
I had to hit everybody off.
But you know a nigga like me.
Shoot again, Tupac.
I said, you hit Tupac?
Yeah, Tupac.
Yo, let me tell you something, man.
I just got great relationships, as you know.
You know what I'm saying? And I went hard to clear it. I just got great relationships, as you know.
You know what I'm saying?
And I went hard to clear it.
It was very, very, very expensive.
And, you know, thank God they let me clear it, man.
And then, you know, we got a little backlash.
Niggas are like, why you use the Tupac?
Daz Dillinger came on Instagram like, yo, Joe.
You know, he produced that shit for that Tupac.
Keeping hip hop real, nigga.
Joe Crack.
Trey, what's up, my niggas this shit hard
fuck that
so that shut that thing down
right quick
you know what I mean
but about being here
this long no
no
uh uh
impossible
I mean I thought
to tell you the truth
I think I deserve to be
president of
every single label
every single label
I think you did too
you've got the experience
so all these fancy
all these fancy uh right slick looking niggas with the bow ties and all that, even though I had one on for the brunch, they come up to me like, yo, you're the best A&R in the game.
I said, yeah, I should be having your job.
Time out.
Time out.
I should be having your job.
Time out.
This is where we got to go.
You know where I'm going with it?
Yes, I know.
We had Steve Stout on the show.
So Steve Stout says on the show.
That's a bow tie, nigga.
Yeah, but listen to what he says on the show.
He definitely is a bow tie nigga.
So he says on the show,
which I didn't catch on.
The fans caught on
and they hit me after the show came out.
They say,
oh, Nori,
how you going to let him say that about Joe?
And he says on the show,
he says,
Fat Joe is a better A&R than he is an artist.
So I didn't understand what he meant because we're inebriated or whatever.
But when the fans heard that, they took it as disrespect.
They said, how could you?
No, I don't take it.
I take it as a compliment.
Thank God he's acknowledging that I got a good ear and I know how to make hits.
No, I don't look at it And No thank god
He mentioned my name
Your fans
A lot of niggas
Be hiding my name
Yeah your fans
Hate it at him
A lot of niggas
Be hiding my name
Right
You know
Somebody I love
I'ma just tell you the truth
Right
Somebody I really
Really really love
Eminem
Know what I'm saying
I've been waiting for him
To tell me
I've been waiting
For the day for him
To say big pun
Inspired him I haven't heard it yet You can hear it You can hear it Know what I'm saying? I've been waiting for him to tell me. I've been waiting for the day for him to say Big Pun inspired him.
I haven't heard it yet.
You can hear it.
You can hear it.
You know what I'm saying?
So I love him and I support him one million percent.
But I've been waiting for the day to drink Champ J or something for him to say,
you know what?
Big Pun inspired me.
You know what I'm saying?
Because some niggas don't like to give it up.
Like, you understand what I'm saying?
So the fact that Steve Stout came up up here that means i'm one step closer
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Yo, hold on. I want to ask both of y'all something because you just reminded me of this. Do you think
pun gets enough respect? No.
We the niggas, you know, last time I said that, I got controversy.
No, I get controversy more.
Between me and Nori, I feel like we the only niggas that, your niggas got cups down there.
You got to stop.
I came up in here when this shit was like an experiment, my nigga.
And we still experimenting. No, no, no.
No, you guys. Hang on, you guys. And we still experiment. No, no, no. No, you guys.
Hang on, you guys.
Don't do this.
You know this shit.
Now, come on.
I came up here.
I was the guinea pig, my nigga.
I'm sitting up here.
I'm like, oh, no.
This nigga's going nowhere fast.
Get him out of the smoking crack.
And this.
Remember when the whole boy was washing my drugs? Don't know. Don't take it. Listen, here i can't take it
listen here's the thing man hip-hop is so beautiful fad joe wait don't don't disregard my question
okay what was the question oh this pun so sorry i'm glad you did that yeah okay you want me to
go first because i was thinking about that i think me and nori uh are the leaders of the big pun
movement to where we keep them alive.
And you know what bothers me sometimes?
There's a lot of people,
when I give pun his props,
a lot of people think that I'm giving his props,
one, because I'm Puerto Rican,
and two, because pun passed away.
And that's just not it.
Or three, they think that
because me and him were so close.
I'm telling you,
I've never seen a person come down,
sit on a couch,
on a couch, and flow his shit all the way through. Like, I've never seen that. I've never seen a person come down, sit on a couch on a couch and
flow his shit all the way through.
I've never seen that. He was
out of breath but when he got on the mic
he was in breath. That was
ingenious itself. If you ever
spoke to Big or if you ever spoke to
Pun, they both spoke like this.
They were like...
But when you hit him on the mic, that shit
erases. You got to, we didn't have technology.
Hazardous could be an engineer back then and take off the breathing.
No, you can't.
So whatever you had, that's what makes Punn one of the best to me.
Not just his lyrical content, but his breath control.
I just knew how he was the best because niggas was just scared of him.
Do you know how hard that shit was to say,
Dead in the middle was a little Italy, little did we know that we riddle some middlemen who didn't do diddly.
For a person, five hundred pounds.
You could pass out.
I just lost some weight.
I just lost some weight and that shit fucking me up right now.
I'm singing that shit.
I forced him to say that on the record.
Yeah, we wrote Deep Cover together and I was like, yo, we need a record
that's going to be
in the West Coast.
So we flipped the
Dr. Dre's too.
You know what?
I totally forgot you did
like a Pick It Up
type of version back then.
Damn, I totally forgot that.
But that was a joke to Pun.
Pun always...
Well, it wasn't a joke to us.
Today I met him
dead in the middle of the little...
He used to say it
like joking around.
Like the pack and the mac
in the back of the act. It was a joke. like joking around. Right, right. Like the pack of the mack in the back of the act.
Like it was a joke.
Right, right.
So one day when we did it, I said, yo, that shit should go in there.
He was like, oh, that shit whack.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
I'm like, yo, my nigga, you need to put that shit in here.
And then I forced him and the nigga did the dead in the middle of the little.
Yo, I remember doing the Apollo with this nigga.
Wow.
I think you came out with us.
I think I, yeah. We had matching furs on you're my nigga we come out we do that shit that's the first song
and he go we drop the music dead in the middle of it it looked like the power was gonna crack
then i back up and run behind stage and then we come out again, eight times in a row we did, like, going backstage like you never saw us the first time.
Come on, we was assholes, man.
We was assholes, man.
It's crazy.
So now you being a hip-hop head, you a real hip-hop head.
I mean, I speak to you off the record all the time, and you know about everything.
That's why it was no surprise to me that you having a podcast because you abreast of everything.
Shout out Coco Vision on time, man.
And we're going to get straight.
We're going to get into that a whole long time.
But recently Mace and Cam'ron battled.
Yeah.
I know you for being the biggest Mace fan.
Like a lot of people don't know that about Fat Joe.
I wouldn't know if I'm the biggest Mace fan.
I just know what's right.
Right.
What do you mean by that?
Mace is Kanye West's favorite rapper.
He's Eminem's favorite rapper.
Which is deep.
What?
That's deep.
I just mentioned Kanye West and Eminem.
He's their favorite rapper.
That's crazy.
I'll tell you even the biggest secret.
The way I got Eminem on the Leanback remix was because I played him the Mace verse.
And Mace had retired and we thought he was never coming back.
So when I played him the verse, he was like, ah, send me the song.
And then he got on the remix.
You know what I'm saying?
Mace is like, you know, Mace was phenomenal.
You know what I'm saying?
And Cameron's a living legend.
And Cameron is incredible too.
Did you see that coming?
Did you see Mace actually?
Man, we... Fuck Cam'ron.
Right.
Me, Cam'ron, and the whole United States of America been disrespecting Mace for the last
20 years.
Every time we got a rhyme and we got to say some crazy shit-
Niggas go to church like Mace.
Niggas go to church like Mace.
All my quit and run to the altar boy like Mace.
I'm like, that nigga's been fucking with him forever.
Very true.
I bought Cam'ron's album and I watched him take shots at Mace.
Yo, I saved the nigga.
I'm like, I'm going to take a shot at him.
I'm going to take a shot at him.
I'm going to take a shot at him. I'm going to take a shot at him. I'm going to take a shot at him. I'm going to take a shot at him. I'm like, that nigga's been fucking with him forever. Very true.
I bought Cam Run's album.
And I watched him take shots at Mase.
Yo, I saved the nigga.
Nigga tried to give me $20 after that.
I heard all that.
So when he came back at him, it was like about time.
Right.
You understand what I'm saying?
Right.
And that was just that. I thought he got one up on on
on cam I didn't see that coming what I didn't see that mace oh I don't know who could win out of
that no I'm saying I didn't see that I would have said if I no no no I didn't see it either I didn't
see it coming it happened yeah that was it so I can't tell you who who would have won before they
dropped it because they both ill. And Cameron's an asshole.
Like, in a funny way.
Like, he's an asshole.
Oh, he'll fuck with you.
You know what I mean?
He's a funnier 50 Cent.
Like, this nigga will fuck with you.
So I'm like, I couldn't tell you.
If you grabbed me right there and said,
who's going to win?
I'd have been like, yo, I don't know.
Because, you know, I know Mace is going to come
with some fly shit.
But he took 20 years to come back.
So that's the reason why.
That jab.
It was like it was only a jab, but the jab felt like a knockout jab because it took 20 years.
And then when he finally did it.
Hey, let's put it like this.
Something I know.
He inspired Dipset to make an album.
Wow.
They in the studio every day working.
Wow.
That's very true.
So he, you know, sometimes shit is a blessing in disguise.
Speaking of Dipset, because I just recently watched you on The Breakfast Club, and you
said, you attributed moving to Miami for the time when New York was all beat up.
I wouldn't say all of that, but yeah.
Yeah.
Because everybody, and one of the main moves.
So for our fans that didn't hear The Breakfast Club interview, let me just explain to what Joe was saying.
He was alluded to.
I watched Joe.
He sat down, and he spoke about Miami.
He said, well, I used to come to Miami, but the time that I was.
For years, you've been coming to Miami forever.
He said he used to come to Miami forever, but the time that he really focused and he lived out here was when New York was beefing.
And in particular, when it was like Cameron and Nas and Jim telling them to go on snack movies.
What happened was they gave niggas a lot of money.
And at that time, everybody made a lot of money because I know all these niggas.
Trevor Squad, y'all made $10 million first.
We made a lot of money.
We made $10 million.
But listen, that's not what I'm saying.
They gave niggas a lot of money. We made 10 million. But listen, that's not what I'm saying. Okay. They gave niggas a lot of money. And what happened was when you give some niggas some money, they start acting up like they don't know how to act.
They start feeling like more goons start coming around, more real niggas.
More you.
You know, how many rappers we watch, and this is not in reference to Dipset to nobody.
Right.
But how many rappers you watch come in the game,
humble pop, blow up,
and all of a sudden they gangsters.
And they got 100,000 with them.
Yo, I'm down with this gang.
And then they got bandanas.
I mean,
they gave a bunch of niggas,
whether it was Rockefeller, whether it
was Terror Squad, whether it was
Dipset, whether it's whatever, even Th was Terror Squad Whether it was Dipset Whether it was whatever
Even Thugged Out
You was rolling around like it
It was average
G-Unit
Everybody all of a sudden
Started feeling like
It's about us
Fuck that
Fuck y'all
And then that's where
The unity in New York hip hop
Faded away
Because everybody was doing this
Now
I always viewed,
definitely, if it ain't Nas and Jay-Z dissing each other,
I feel like you shouldn't be able to diss him.
I feel like Nas disappointed you a lot
and you never, ever dissed him.
Yeah, yeah, he disappointed me a lot,
but I wasn't going to diss him.
I wasn't going to diss him.
Wait, how did he disappoint you?
I mean, just like, you know, personal,
like personal thing. I felt like, you know personal like personal thing I felt like
you know you know Joe looked at Nas wasn't you gonna name your son Nas at one point I was gonna
name my son Nas I looked up to Nas you know what made you disappointed in him just different things
man I mean you know is it personal I don't know is it yeah I think I you know it was you know it's
just personal shit you know what I mean I still see him I say what's just personal shit. You know what I mean? I still see him.
I say, what's up?
Was he at the brunch too as well?
No, he wasn't at that one.
You know what I'm saying?
I just feel like I love Nas.
I was just trying to tell you that he's a God.
That nobody should disrespect him.
Definitely.
Because it's Nas and Jay-Z.
Then at the same time, I feel like we from two different DNAs.
You know what I'm saying?
We cut from two different cloths. Right. And that's just how I view its You know what I'm saying We cut from two different cloths And that's just how I view it
You know what I'm saying
I have to understand it
You know what I mean
Because a nigga like me
Who's so loyal and love niggas and all that
You know we just move different
It's just like me
Some of the older gods
From the older generation
They might not identify with me
And even if I don't identify with them I just shut the fuck up Like I will never get on And disrespect the older people You they might not identify with me. And even if I don't identify with them,
I just shut the fuck up.
Like, I will never get on
and disrespect the older people.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's the reason why I feel like
this generation is different from ours.
So different.
Because a person could actually come up to them
and they could ask them about Fat Joe.
And they say,
Fat Joe get busy.
They say, get busy?
They say, yeah.
His crew get busy.
And one of these young dudes
will still disrespect you because they know they don't got to run into you in the streets because they're in the computers.
And that's the thing that's different.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, I feel like any nigga that's willing to say something.
See, first of all, I go by this quote.
I'm going to find it in the phone for you that John Gotti said.
Okay. I'm going to find it in the phone for you that John Gotti said. Anything you say, you should be waiting to hear back in court, getting played back to you in court.
Anything you ever say, you should know that it can be played back to you in court.
This is a quote from John Gotti.
And my thing is, everything I say, I mean it.
And I'm willing to go down for it, whatever it is.
I really don't care, guys.
I'm not lying to you.
I'm ready to die.
You should be held by the way Joe crack is.
So with me, I don't give a fuck.
So if I say something, I mean it.
You know what I mean?
So when other niggas choose to say something about me, you should mean it.
Because if you crawl up the wrong alley or you're in the wrong lounge or you're in the wrong place, you got to answer for these things.
I don't give a fuck if I'm campaigning for Obama in the afternoon.
I'll catch you in the motherfucking diner at night and you said some slick shit about me.
You need to answer for that.
You will answer for that, my nigga.
Like, trust me when I tell you, nobody ever wins against me. That's all I'm going to leave. I'm going to leave it at that. You will answer for that, my nigga. Like, trust me when I tell you, nobody ever wins against
me. That's all I'm going to leave. I'm going to leave it at that.
Nobody ever wins against me.
I'm going to be honest with you.
You know what I'm saying? So if you say
if you publicly can say
yo, Fat Joe, suck my dick.
Fuck your mother, this and that.
Alright, my nigga. It's cool.
I learned a new one. Niggas try to
get you upset you know 50 told
me the secret he said you you got a lot of pride so anytime I needed new beef I would say some shit
to you I know you're gonna jump out the window so now I know the strategy yo chill don't jump out
the window when we watching when we catch you at the wrong award show Or somewhere I ain't papito
It's a bad one for you bro
Cause how was that at first
I remember at first
You know
They're announcing that you and him
Both are performing for Chris Lighty's
That was love my nigga
That was
What was it
I forget
His tribute
His tribute
At the BET Awards
And I remember Raul posting the picture
And I remember
The nigga rock The nigga Stephen Hill is a funny nigga.
He calls me up and he says, yo, we're doing a tribute for Chris Lighty.
I was at the Yellow Tape video, me, French, and ASAP.
And when he called me, I was like, bet, I'll do it.
I had a show in Australia too.
I had to move.
I was like, bet, no problem.
He was like, yeah, Missy Elliott, Busta Rhymes, this and that, this and that, 50 Cent.
And Nori ain't going to be there. I'm like, he, Missy Elliott. Busta Rhymes, this and that, this and that, 50 Cent. And Noriega will be there.
I'm like, he thought I ain't here
in a 50 Cent. You know what I'm saying?
Not only that.
Busta Rhymes.
I know.
So Missy Elliott
will be doing her number.
So I'm like, alright, cool.
Chris Lighty saved my life.
You understand what I'm saying?
So literally saved my life. So I said, alright know Chris Lighty saved my life Right You understand what I'm saying So literally saved my life
Right
So I said alright
Let's go
The crazy shit is
They put
It was almost like a setup
Right
So they put my trailer
In the back
50 cents
Name on his door
With a star
Fat Joe's name
On the door
With a star
Right in front of each other
Oh
So I'm
Swear to God
They didn't try to separate.
Sometimes,
they be separating friends.
Like,
they heard Nori and you
don't get along,
they'll put you on the side
of the stage.
And they'll say his name
off the door.
Or something.
With me,
they had it right there.
Right.
Let's see what this thing's about.
Right.
So when I was in the trailer
and Pistol Pete came in
and he was like,
yo,
this is the craziest shit
you ever heard, God.
I was like, what?
He said, yo, 50 Cent told me it's G-Unit and Terror Squad peace for Chris Lighty.
So I'm like, nigga, you've been in jail your whole fucking life.
You don't believe this?
Nigga, what's wrong with you?
How many niggas you seen spit this shit to you and all that?
Fuck that.
Stay on point, nigga.
You know what this is, right?
So I'm sitting in there now.
You know, because I'm a warlord.
So I'm sitting in there
like studying the map, all right?
What if this happens?
What if this goes down?
What if this, this?
And showing up,
we went into the rehearsal
and I told the story a million times.
You know what I'm saying?
We finished performing
and he was like,
yo, peace for fucking Chris Lighty.
So I was like, you know,
I would have never
thought I would squash that beef. But you
want to know what? It was a great thing to do.
It was great for hip-hop. It showed that
niggas could mature. It showed that niggas could move on.
He's a good friend of mine now.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Him and Ja Rule, that's never going to happen.
Never going to happen.
Him and Irv.
Y'all, I mean, that's never going to happen. Never going to happen. Him and Irv. Him and the niggas, y'all.
I mean, they never going to.
We could never do nothing about that.
And you know, I'm a Queens nigga, so I don't even try.
I don't even try.
I mean, I don't think you can.
I love them both, too.
But I can't even try.
It's okay.
I got this shit.
It's okay, man.
It's okay, man.
This is where I come from, man.
This is where I come from.
No, look at my back hair go real quick. Okay, yeah. Look at my back. Leave it on my barber, man. It's okay, man. This is where I come from, man. This is where I come from. That looks like a bad haircut real quick.
Okay, yeah.
Waving on my barber, man.
Waving on my barber.
No, that's the hoodie.
It's the hoodie.
That's no problem.
It's no problem.
That's what happens when you got a brand new hoodie on.
Yeah, man.
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
That's okay, man.
So let me be clear.
I always say Nori and Ray Kwan are my two best friends in rap music.
Thank you.
He's my brother.
You understand what I'm saying?
And I just want to say that yeah
so now absolutely now what's the record um before i pick it up this is my joint that you dropped so
excited so excited so this was this your first time like exactly pushing dre towards the front
line because i know dre is more like a um he'll write the hook type of guy and
then we'll get somebody to say that we're gold that's what he did here and
then I had to two rappers to two big-time let's name one of them now I
can't come? I don't know. Can't bad Joe drink Tiger Bowl?
Let me ask you a question.
Let's do it.
Let me ask you a question.
Are you using me for the ratings right now?
Yes, yes.
Hey, yo.
Listen.
Listen.
You know my podcast.
I did Remy, and I said, yo, Remy, does Batboost have sex with his hat on?
The nigga saw it.
He started texting me.
You sold me out for the radiance.
I'm like yo.
Yo come on.
You're just killing me with the microphone.
The nigga said you sold me out for the radiance.
I'm like chill man.
I gotta make this thing work.
You know what's the beautiful thing?
And I'm sorry if you're checking.
Can you see poor shot of Tiger Bone?
This is the beautiful thing is
I think in five years is i think in five years
i think in five years right this is where i see my mom's this is i think in five years
hip-hop i right now when you tweet you're tweeting to your audience when you have an instagram when
you do an instagram you instagram to your audience right what I mean is but when you tweet
or you Instagram that is for free Instagram gets that money Twitter gets
that money whoever you whatever you generate from them I feel in five years
you won't be dropping our album with Empire all love to Empire you know guys
it's my man also Paul you but, what I'm trying to tell you is
in five years from now,
I think Fat Joe's album
will be coming out on a podcast.
Because why would you give it to the world
if,
why would you give it to the world
of your people?
That's what I think.
So that's why you starting a podcast,
Jim Jones starting a podcast,
Joey Badass,
also on Tidal.
Big up to Elliot Wilson.
He's a hater we seen Yes. I think we got to respect that. Give him a round of applause. Give him a round of applause.
Give him a round of applause.
Yo. Yo.
That's crazy.
We know he's the godfather of the granddaddy of this podcast.
Give Twin a shot.
Yo, Twin, what's up, my nigga?
Give Twin a shot, baby.
This is definitely a topic we talk about all the time on Drink Champs.
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Hey, y'all.
Hey, y'all.
Let me tell you something, twin.
Yeah.
Y'all, I remember the first time I came, they was picking on you and shit.
No, we still pick on his ass.
That's our family.
Yo, listen.
We're going to dig a shot for twin.
And look, this is, this, you got a shot, twin?
This is unfair. Yo, listen. Watch out, to take a shot for Twin. And look, this is, this, you got a shot, Twin? This is unfair.
Yo, listen.
Watch out, watch out.
This is unfair.
And listen, because I want to give this shot for Joe Craft.
All right?
This is unfair.
I never had this.
This is terrible.
It's the only time.
Yeah, it's terrible.
But listen, hold on.
What is this, chemo?
No, don't listen.
Don't smell it.
Please.
Don't smell it.
Let me make a toast.
Let me make a toast.
Everybody, everybody, I'll get everybody's attention. To Fat Joe, Twin. Don't smell it Please Don't smell it Let me make a toast Let me make a toast Everybody
I'll get everybody's attention
To Fat Joe
Twin
Let me tell you something
This is to Fat Joe
When you Fat Joe's friend
He stays your friend
He stays down with you
He doesn't give a fuck
If you start sniffing coke
Start smoking heroin
Start fucking
You know
Putting weed in your toenails
He doesn't give a fuck.
As long as you stay down with him,
Fat Joe will stay down with you,
and I want to stay down with him,
and I want to toast this to Coca Vision.
May your podcast blow up.
May your podcast do what the fucking God do.
Drink chances, personally,
giving you our audience,
because we want you to win.
We promote you.
We promote you.
Listen, Coca Vision on title, baby.
And this is the Fat Joe.
Let's go.
Coca Vision, baby.
That's like the shit my grandfather used to do.
It's my Moana.
It's my Moana. You're my nigga, but what is that? That's taste like. It's my Moana. That's that the shit my grandfather used to do. It's marijuana. It's marijuana.
Yo, my nigga, but what is that?
That tastes like Jamaican.
That's that macaaya bean bomb.
That shit tastes like some Jamaican roots or something.
Yo, I tasted 30 world shit.
We got that shit straight from China.
30 countries.
Show them the bottle.
Yo, I tasted 30 countries in that fucking shit.
Man, we been chasing ASAP, right?
Yo, but also, you been to Bombouti, Africa.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti.
That shit tastes like Djibouti. That shit tastes like Djibouti. That shit tastes like Djibouti. That shit tastes like Djibouti. That shit tastes like Djibouti. Yeah, but also you've been up bomb booty Africa's like the foot your booty Don't ever try this shit! No! No!
Yo, yo, yo!
I smell blue area on this shit!
I smell blue area on this shit!
I smell blue area on this shit!
Shit, some areas on this shit!
This is bad!
This is bad!
Nah, this shit too much!
Don't put it on Celia, man!
Don't put it on Celia!. Hey, my nigga, this is crazy. Don't put it on Sally.
She's an asshole human.
She's an asshole human.
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
These niggas got the millennials.
They got all kinds of shit.
Yo, listen, man.
Keep on going, man.
I'm sorry.
What'd you say?
You got the master.
My nigga, I never taste no shit like that in my life.
Listen, man, let me tell you something.
Fat Joe.
I'm thinking that's a truth serum or some shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how we get niggas, Fat Joe.
Fat Joe, man.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Listen, man, let me tell you something.
I'm thinking that's a truth serum or some shit.
That's how we get niggas, Fat Joe.
We give niggas a shot of Tiger Bone, and then shit be real.
I do that.
Yo, but I got Fat Joe one time to smoke weed with me.
I never smoked weed with you.
Okay, come on.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, I never smoked weed with you.
My tooth smoked weed with me. Okay, come on. No, no, no, no. No, no, I never smoked weed with you. My tooth smoked weed with me.
You got to stop.
Oh, because you had a two-day.
I had, like, no.
This wasn't normal.
This wasn't normal.
I had a pain for, like, three days.
And I was going to all the doctors and shit
trying to figure out where I got this pain from.
I still don't know where I got the pain from.
But shit was hurting so much, he forced me to go to dinner with him. With the pain. I said, my nigga, I can this pain from. I still don't know where I got the pain from, but shit was hurting so much, he forced
me to go to dinner with him. With the
pain, I said, my nigga, I can't even eat.
Mr. Chow!
Lawsons and states
and this and that. So he wanted to show
off he's rich now
and shit. So
we all in there, the table was flooded
like Thanksgiving. Wait, this is post-drink
champs? No, this is post-drink champs.
Let me tell you something.
Mid-drink champs.
You a rich nigga right now.
You hiding that money, nigga.
He bought a house.
He bought a house.
You are hiding that money here, man.
You can't lie to me.
I count niggas money.
This nigga, let me tell you something.
This nigga over here, he got a table full of shit.
I swear to God, I can't even eat.
He was like, yo, if you take what the fuck?
I'll leave past it to you?
It was vapor.
It was vapor.
So he's like, I said, it's for your tooth.
So I took it, and he start jumping up and down.
Oh, I never thought he was from India.
Oh, oh.
Yo, let me tell you something.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
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No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
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No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not. Mr. Chow I Yo, that nigga take a banjo. I'm so sorry, I can't turn my hustle off.
I'm going to tell you, I'm going to turn my hustle off.
I can't turn my hustle off.
My Dominican nigga, Papi Secreto.
Papi Secreto.
That nigga, right?
I fuck with him, right?
So one day I'm eating in Washington Heights, a restaurant.
He's up in the motherfucker, right?
So I'm like, yo, Papi Secreto, that's my man.
I fuck with him hard right
She said Benko me fight Joe this and I saw right so I went with the nigga right I walk in
It's a bunch of Dominican niggas now. This is like weird Dominicans like I don't know these things they all had like yellow hair
Nobody has socks. Oh, I don't know these niggas. They say socks. OK. They have bags, nigga. They fly. Everything else, but the socks, they different.
Nigga, dreadlocks, all kinds.
Right?
So you're colorful, closer.
I'm sitting in there with these niggas.
Right?
They playing pool.
And it's like this.
Like, you know, just a bunch of niggas just chilling.
Next thing I know, my nigga, he was like, OK,
but I'm going to fight you.
The nigga opened the door, pushed me out.
It was a crowd of 5,000 niggas out there.
It was a show. 5,000 niggas Yo, free performance, my nigga. Yo, we know what to do at the next pop-up shop.
Oh, man.
Un-fucking-real.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
That's awesome.
So, Pat Joe, did you ever think, like, the game would be what it is right now?
Like, right now, I've seen you interview Casanova, and I've also seen you interview 6ix9ine.
Now, the rumor is that Casanova made that record cuz 69 and them well
He said it on the pocket on my pocket. Let's talk about that. I made him say that okay, so good
Let's talk about it bad. I don't know You are definitely a journalist, bro. Because media, we do the older people, boys.
Media!
We're going to get you a media badge.
We're going to get you a media badge. I need a media badge.
We're going to get you a media badge.
So what happened?
Let me tell you, man.
So you asked Casanova.
You said.
Yo, I'm fucking crazy, my nigga.
OK, tell me.
I'm just telling you.
I'm just crazy, man.
Yeah.
I'm crazy, man.
So I turn around.
I go like this.
So I said to Casanova, I seen the video.
Looked like they was trying to front on him or whatever.
But I know Casanova is a real cool nigga.
But I see him put his back to the wall.
I say, he's dangerous.
Yeah.
And I see him do that.
I like his vibe.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
As a good dude, I always vibe with him.
So when I see the video, then he come out with the song.
So I tell the nigga, I say, yo, you know what?
You was doing mini rock songs and shit like that, trying to party, trying to dance.
And meanwhile, you was trying to stay out of trouble.
But when they fronted on you and pushed you, you didn't know it was a blessing in disguise.
You came out with something, nigga.
I said, nigga, it was the blessing in disguise.
Sometimes God puts you in certain predicaments To bring the best out of you
You know what I'm saying
So then I interviewed the Takashi69 nigga
I was about to ask you
Did you get his side of the story
He didn't quite say his side of the story
What he did say
Was like you know
You gotta give him Tiger Bone next time
I gotta give him Tiger Bone
So
He
What he said was that
You know he ain't really got beef With the nigga this and this and that I said well yeah bone next time. I'll give him tiger bone. So, what he said was that, you know,
he ain't really
got beef with
the nigga
this and this
and that.
I said,
well,
yeah,
well,
you know,
I watch your
videos and all
that.
You be with
a thousand
niggas.
Can you
control your
niggas?
He said,
no,
I can't
control them
niggas.
So,
I was like,
all right,
so then,
it's no such
thing as you
ain't got beef
with niggas
because it
usually ain't
you anyway.
It's the
fucking
entourage
that's ready
to pop off.
But, interesting kid, man. He's real smarter than you think
You told me that off the record
Very smart kid
And he's crazy
His shit is called scumbags
Society can't understand me
Yeah
Nah for real
Scumbag
Society can't understand me
Carlito he took your shit Hey bro Hey why you Carlito Me. Oh, that's not true. Nah, for reals, come back. Society can't understand me.
Carlito, he took your shit.
Hey, Rob.
Hey, Rob, you Carlito.
Bobby, I didn't even know you knew English.
Nigga, how you say it?
Condom.
Condom.
Boy said a condom.
Nigga.
What?
Yo, yo, yo, Bobby.
Yo no sabia.
He been frontin' the Robby now.
They know like three different languages.
This nigga the redhead's on king, my nigga.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something about my cousin, right?
One day I'm busy.
I know that nigga.
He know.
When you not around, I treat him like Norris in that motherfucker.
You better believe that shit.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
No, that's a fact.
So listen, so one year, you know, I go to Puerto Rico, you know, whatever, whatever.
So like two, three years later, he comes to New York and I'm just busy.
So my mother calls me.
My mother says, yo, you know Carlito's around.
I'm like, yeah, I'll get with him later.
She's like, no, you're going to see him today because he learned English just to speak to you.
So he was looking for me for like a whole year When he learned how to speak English
He was like, I gotta hang out with my cousin now
Man, let me tell you something
Let me tell you a picture
Let me tell you something
I got a picture that over there hurt me
Right?
Because I was away
I was away on the road for like a whole month
Promoting this new single
And I'm looking at my daughter's Insta story
And she got pictures of your son
And she's like,
it's my favorite.
It hurt me that I couldn't
be there with you.
Oh, no, that's beautiful.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, damn, man,
my nephew there,
my daughter.
Nah, that shit, you know.
That let me know
the growth of us.
It was one day,
your wife,
I think she was bored,
so she hit my wife.
I'm in the house bored
and they were about to go get together with the kids and I'm like, uh-uh, they're not leaving me out. So I'm like, I think she was bored, so she hit my wife. I'm in the house bored, and they were about to go get together with the kids,
and I'm like, uh-uh, they're not leaving me out.
So I'm like, I'm coming too.
So I said, yo, boom, we broke into the Soho house,
and I'm just looking at them, you know,
playing in the Soho house in the movie theater,
you know, just being kids.
Rich people shit.
That's rich people shit.
You do a lot of rich people shit.
Yo, let me tell you something.
I'm going to tell you a story. I'm going to tell you a story story even when you ain't rich I've been with this nigga since I'm like, damn, how this nigga gonna pull up this shit? This nigga be rocking.
And he ain't cheap.
He'll pay.
I'll pay one time, he'll pay one time.
He'll pay.
I'll be with some nigga.
Let's shout out Sean.
Beckas is cheap.
Oh.
Mike Kaiser walked out on a bill on me once.
Mike Kaiser walked out on a bill.
I was there.
I was there.
This nigga, Beckas, let me tell you something.
Beckas is cheap.
I didn't know that.
Yo, Beckas cheap, my ass.
When I was on Beckas, Tommy Boy with Beckas, Beckas was a swiper. Well. Beckas is cheap. I didn't know that. Yo, Beckas cheap, man. When I was on Tommy Boy with Beckas, Beckas was a swiper.
Well, he was swiping.
Tommy Boy was swiping.
He was like, Tommy Boy, yeah.
Not the song Beckas cost me.
No, Beckas.
Yo, let me tell you something.
This nigga, I'll go to dinner with this nigga
about 20 times, yo.
The bill keep coming out to like $1,500, $1,200, this and that.
And you know me, I'm not cheap.
You know that?
I throw the card down.
I throw my money in every time we go half and half.
So I'm going boom.
So one day I'm in the crib by myself.
And I'm like, yo, why every time I go with Becca
somewhere to shit $1,500?
We just eat a couple of steaks and shit.
And then I start saying, man, the fucking food only like $300.
I don't drink.
So this nigga keep ordering Chateau 69. saying man the fucking food only, because I don't drink wine. Yo, you know what? We stopped going to dinners after that.
Yo, he figured it out to give me something.
Oh, shit.
I swear to God.
We stopped going to dinners.
How many times I tell you to realize?
About 20 times, my man.
I thought you know you mad.
I got, don't you know, I got robbed so big.
Fat Joe's rich.
He once told me he spent $600 On t-shirts a month
Let's make some noise
For that guy
Let me tell you something
I'm going to tell you something
This is my mentality
And it may be stupid
It may be nigga rich
It may be ignorant
But you know
Since I was young
You know
I sold drugs
To get fly
You know what I'm saying
So
I'm going to be fly
Till I fucking die Till I'm in the casket And n'm saying? So I'm going to be fly till I fucking die.
Till I'm in the casket and niggas walk up and they're going to be like, yo, this nigga was putting on forever.
I'm sorry.
I don't know why he's cosigning your shit.
He shops in the flea market.
I don't know why he's over there like, yes.
He's flea market fly.
He's flea market fly.
He's a flea market guy.
I'm sorry, man.
Yo, continue your fly shit.
He just can't cosign it.
You know what I'm saying? He just particularly. He's flea market fly. I'm sorry, Bad Joe. Continue your fly shit. He just can't co-sign it. It's good.
What I'm saying,
he just particularly... He's flea market fly.
He wanted to co-sign your fly shit.
This nigga's from the flea market.
Bring that tobacco out here.
Oh, yeah.
I be seeing the flowers.
Little Washington.
And then Fadjo,
like Fadjo's like...
He's on...
He's on...
I got too much shit.
The beginning, right?
That's him on the beginning.
Yeah, that's him.
So what happened,
I was listening to... When I was recording that song, I was listening
to a lot of Ray and Ghost that day.
And them niggas was like, yo, shuck, shuck, I hit, nigga.
You know, I was in my fur rocking like Manoli, you nigga.
Like, they was just talking wild shit.
And I was like, damn, these niggas wasn't doing none of this shit.
Like, they ain't had the furs off the yacht.
So at that time, I was like, yo, I want toas wasn't doing none of this shit. Like, they ain't had the furs off the yacht. So at that time, I was like, yo, I want to pop shit
at the beginning of this song.
Then I turned around, and I got my little nigga
there who really has a zoo in his house.
And he got a tiger in his hand.
In his hand.
Oh, that's the dude that we met at your store.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I said, yo, Rossi, go in there.
He said, what you want me to say?
He said, when we in Dubai, we have a zoo in the house.
And he say he got a tiger and Kylie.
We have a tiger and Kylie. That's hard. That's hard. We zoo in the house. We have a tiger named Tiger and Kylie. That's hard.
That's hard. We live in the eyes. Now he was talking that shit, but you know, yeah, Wild
Shit, man. He's a big boy, man. Now my favorite Fat Joe record of all time, you probably don't
even know this, is the shit is real. And you was playing it today. Smart guy.
Today I was all, Fat Joe playing it all day.
Every time we interview an artist,
we upgrade it since you first came here.
What we do is we go into this.
We immerse ourselves in the artist.
So we bury ourselves in a discography.
And it was crazy that,
you didn't even know that was my favorite Fat Joe record.
You was playing it.
But I mean, that's one of my favorite records as well.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
DJ, from here, uh, DJ Premier.
Premier.
What happened with?
You got to relax.
You got to relax.
We ain't going to you a lot, see?
I'm just a young nigga.
You're a young nigga.
You got to relax.
We're going into the old archives.
We're going off.
I'm not gonna let you go.
You go another round?
Another round?
Another round.
Another round.
Shout out to Empire.
That was my first record with Empire and they went gold.
One day I went to...
Stick Up My Cuzz.
That's a fact.
You stuck up your...
That whole song was facts.
I just want to realize...
For a long time
when I first started,
everything I said was real.
So one day you went to...
So you were incriminating yourself.
I'm really not.
Everybody talking about killing.
Spoiler line,
one day you went to see
your uncle...
One day I said,
one day I went to see my aunt and stuck up my cuss.
Let's just make noise for Fat Joe being a fat man.
I thought about doing that.
I just never did that.
Fat Joe, go ahead.
You know what happened to me was that my cousin, I gave him some work.
You know what I'm saying?
He was older than me.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, I ain't going was older than me You know what I'm saying You know I ain't gonna lie to you man
I was just driving this shit
From my mother and father's house
Over here
And I was just reminiscing
I was listening to the old
80's songs and shit
But I mean like Phil Collins
And all that
And I really really
Big my own self up
I'm not on my own dick
But just
Big my own self up
For having a lot of courage in my life.
You know what I mean? Like, I used to get jumped every day
by 20 niggas in junior high,
but I would come out every day and punch the toughest
nigga in his face and get beat up
by 20 niggas. So I would get
beat up every time, but I would, that's courage.
You know what I mean?
What we were talking about, the shit is
real. So the shit is real
is my cousin, he was already like 20 years old. I real. So the shit is real is my cousin.
He was really like 20 years old.
I moved out my mother's house when I was 14.
I was hustling the first day.
I told my father I'm moving out.
I was selling cracks outside in front of the building.
So now I gave my cousin a pack and he was way older than me.
So I'm like 14.
The nigga's like 22.
So the nigga told, he told Uncle Dan, he told my uncle Dan yo Joey's dead I ain't gonna give it to him because I really technically was
a little kid compared to my cousin so I went to my aunt my grandmother's uh block and they was in
the building shooting dice him and a bunch of niggas were shooting dice I just went in there
and started hooking on the nigga on your cousin yeah me and two niggas we shooting dice. I just went in there and started hooking on the nigga. On your cousin? Yeah, me and two niggas. First cousin.
Me and 214, yo, man.
Yo, nigga.
Jumped him. Beat the shit out of him.
But I remember
this nigga, this nigga, my man,
I don't want to say his name, that I grew up with.
His moms had a black eye one
day. Right? His moms had a
black eye. His moms had a black eye.
Niggas moms running around with black eyes in the Bronx. Let's make some noise. I'm not making no noise. day right his mom's his mom's his step pop so what I bless my nigga we couldn't
be no more than 11 12 years old man we caught this nigga like 10 of us we pound this nigga they could try to fight hit him over here
we start that nigga out 11 years old nigga 10 years old unreal grown ass man 30 years old we
pounded the nigga out like niggas kept diving catching him till we wore him down almost like
the lions be eating elephants and shit pounding the, yeah, yeah. Pound the nigga out, man. You know?
Courage.
Now, one day, one day, I heard Elliot Wilson, right?
I just heard him talking to a- You know Elliot Wilson?
Yeah, yeah.
Hold on.
No, I mean, this is actually serious.
Because I heard him actually-
This is actually serious.
No, I actually heard him say this to somebody.
He said, he was trying to get somebody's attention and said to them, well, I'm not an artist.
I'm going to be here.
This is Elliot Wilson saying that.
Saying this to somebody else.
He's not an artist.
I'm going to be here.
He was saying to them, I'm a journalist.
He was like, yo, I was trying to get at you.
Like there's shelf life for an artist.
And you were such and such.
And he was telling them, he was like, yo, I'm not an artist.
I'm going to be here.
And I remember that was my motivation.
But that makes sense.
What?
That makes sense, him saying that.
It wasn't him not hating.
Technically, that makes sense.
You're certainly right.
Let's be clear.
Yep.
I got a lot of love for Elliot Wilson.
Me too, me too. This is not a shock, by the way. I think he kept it real with me my whole clear. Yep. I got a lot of love for Elliot Wilson. Me too. Me too.
This is not a shock, by the way.
I think he kept it real with me my whole career.
Yep.
Big him up.
You know, we joke around and shit, but I told him that Nori and him, they my boss.
Because I don't want podcast beef.
So I told the nigga, I told him, I don't want podcast beef.
Nori's my boss.
You my boss.
Everybody, you want to be my boss up there?
You too, you can be my boss.
He took me up. I don't give a fuck. And you call me FN, I'm talking to my boss. Everybody, you want to be my boss, FN? You too, you can be my boss. You took me up.
I don't give a fuck.
You called me FN, I'm talking to my boss.
I don't care about the FN.
Yo, I'm telling you the truth, nigga.
I don't want no podcast beat.
So I tell a nigga like this, I said like this, I said, yo, Elliot, let me tell you something.
He's right.
He's right.
You know, I always looked at like radio program, like radio.
Do you think artists have a limitation?
Oh, yes, they do.
Yeah.
All these niggas think about it.
Every last nigga that we hear.
I mean, you even said it yourself that you didn't think you was still here.
Every last, oh, well, I'm here 20-something years.
This is a big difference.
Right, but you didn't think you would be here.
I was a drug dealer, hustler, turned myself into a rapper.
But what do you think?
Is that what you meant, though, by not?
No, I just wouldn't be here 20-something years.
Like, who the fuck is here?
Yo, EFN, do me a favor. Look back at the nigga who had the hottest record two years cold all the exactly exactly
Don't all sweat
And no no no this ride like these are massive hits The line, massive. You killed that? In my right cheek. It's true.
In my, all they said, you can do the gully, all types of shit.
Yo, he's DJing right now.
No shit.
They ain't gonna rock with it, my nigga.
We ain't gonna.
Keep going, keep going.
Stop, stop, stop.
You gotta chill out.
You gotta chill out.
Yo, listen.
Listen to this.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Woo. Yo, listen. Listen to what... Classic hits by Fat Joe.
Hey, yo, listen to what I'm saying.
Nah, what I'm trying to say is...
Now let me give you the Fat Joe
politic view at that.
Yeah.
It's a dream come true
to be a one-hit wonder.
Think about it. By itself. My nigga has dream come true to be a one hit wonder. Think about it.
By itself.
My nigga is 10 million
niggas rapping.
By itself.
There's niggas
that's still 40 years old
who never had a record
in their life.
Only demo.
Still sleeping on
their wife's couch.
Refusing to work
because they think
they're rappers.
So you got 10 million
niggas trying to do this.
Imagine one day
you have a hit and you actually going to award shows. You see the niggas Trying to do this Imagine one day You have a hit
And you actually
Go on award shows
You see the niggas
You like
Making tons of money
One hit wonder
Is like the biggest blessing
In the world
Absolutely
You know
And a lot of niggas
Gucci gang
Gucci gang
Gucci gang
Gucci gang
Gucci gang
We don't know right now
We don't know
We don't know
God bless them
I like this thing
I was
I was
I was
I was
I just happened to start With a Gucci sister Let me tell you something Who's that again I don't know His god bless him I was I was I was I was I was I just happen to start
with you
I don't know
no you know what kids are saying that he's a little video so like for my Joe with Adam in his living room. Twins. Who is it? Crazy. What's their name?
Little Bump is not from Miami.
You Bump.
Oh, that's Little Bump?
That's Little Bump? Can you fix me a drink, bro?
He's from Miami?
Oh, Joe, you dropped the ball.
Listen, listen, listen.
He's from Miami.
Didn't Kyle just sign Little Bump?
Yeah, yeah.
I've seen Kyle.
Kyle, he just signed.
Listen, man, we got to stop.
Listen.
Kyle had a crazy meeting with him.
All right, the person I thought, the person I thought my money was on thus far
was Young M.A.
Like, when she had that, ooh.
Like, I was arguing with 10,000 niggas,
like, no, she coming again.
She gonna have it.
I might fuck around and give Young M.A. a hit myself.
You have to.
Because I want to see her.
I think you should.
I might.
Matter of fact, I'm going to announce that on the G Champs. I'll make her a hit. All right, let's go to see I think it's yours. I might matter of fact. I'm gonna announce that on the G chance
I'll make her here
Now she lost weight and that he was a vagus I saw CeCe Sabathia
Dumb skinny
He was like yo I'm vegan
Nah I can't fuck with the vegan
Hey hey hey
I'm a pescatarian
You a pescatarian?
Nah I can't do it
Too much mercury man
Absolutely right
Doctor said I got too much mercury
Nah you're right
You're right about that
Cause we eat lobster
And all that shit
What the fuck is mercury though?
It's lobster It's lobster It is mercury, though? It's lobster.
Yo, you got to chill.
You got to chill.
You got to chill.
Fuck mercury, all right?
Yeah, yeah.
Why you got to be
with mercury?
Why you got to be
with mercury, son?
No, man.
You know, I thought,
you know, eating seafood
and all that was best for you,
but then the doctor told me, yo, you got too much mercury.
So for like two, three months, I've been off the seafood, my nigga.
Stumwack eating off the seafood.
Now, one thing that's a different appearance about Fat Joe.
I know you 25 years.
Fat Joe's never had a beard.
Oh, yeah.
Is this the beard for the movie?
I'm loving the shade.
Turn my wife on.
The movie?
Yeah, I got a couple of phone calls from my son on my dad popping you look good
Come up in here with the motherfucking beer the first beer was like makeup right the first beer
No, I wasn't makeup what it was was the Beijing it was Beijing I think no it
wasn't it was a profession nigga I did a movie they forced me to have a beer so every day the
nigga was throwing the fake shit on me two hours of a nigga giving you a big shit all stopped so
you said fuck that girl my own shit not not yeah so under the last day of the graduation don't
want to tell you
About the movie
But it's called Night School
Shout out Kevin Hart
Will Blacker
Tiffany Haddish
We shot the movie together
I seen the behind the scenes clips
Y'all were putting on Instagram
Yo my nigga
That's what that was
It saved my life
I'm glad you're with a beard
Yo my nigga
Ain't taking me to Hollywood
Joe stop hitting the table please bro
I'm sorry
So with the graduation
They said Alright grow a little beard.
And then, you know, we're going to take off the fake one.
So maybe you can't.
You know, you got the, you know.
And then I liked it.
And then I got mad compliments.
And I was like, you know what, man?
I'm going to keep the motherfucking beard.
But I think it's all right, though.
Nah, I'm just asking.
It's a lot of maintenance.
You got to have a barber in every state.
Every day?
Every state.
You know me, I'm a miático.
In Spanish, that means like,
I got a problem if I got one piece of hair on my head or something.
So every day I got a shave.
I never even heard that.
Miático.
So you don't got a barber with you?
He too expensive.
Mr. Barber's richer, right?
He's too expensive.
Bryson Tiller.
We got to keep finding.
We the new record labels.
We got to find new young talent.
The cheaper.
New young talent, Barba.
When your Barba gets to be in the United States,
y'all move on to us.
I heard Rich Barba has a crib.
It's crazy.
I heard he got a full-court basketball court.
No, he's the richest nigga in the game.
Who?
Rich the Barba.
I heard he got an upstairs-downstairs basketball court.
But he's part of management with Bryson Tiller.
Bryson Tiller.
That's what I was thinking.
And he actually discovered Bryson Tiller.
I heard that.
And then he got this guy, Life of the Party.
I believe that's his name.
Party.
No, no, no, no, no.
Not that one.
Party from upstate New York.
Ooh, definitely.
You don't know him yet, but he's an L. His album is crazy, so Rich manages him too. So, youork oh he's a he's a you don't know him yet but he's a his album is
crazy so rich manages him too so you know he's a good dude what's up big up rich the barber man
you know you family we believe in everybody starting somewhere and moving up to another
absolutely who else you want to talk tory lanes he just hit me today oh you got something we got
something brewing yeah yeah he hit me today you know he's a leader of the new school yeah he's
a young nigga that's spitting that shit that we like to hear.
Tori Lane, you're saying?
Yes, he is.
Yes, big him up, goddammit.
Let's make some noise.
I think we should make some noise.
So, Fat Joe, how does it feel when you see a new guy, right?
Mm-hmm.
And this new guy knows your reputation.
He knows your hit selection.
And you proposition him to do a record.
These guys drop the ball.
They don't do it.
And then when they don't do it, then they fucked up and then they come back to you.
I kill them.
How's that conversation?
We're killing all these niggas, Nori.
Tell me.
Right now, this is about legacy.
Do you want another shot, Tiger Bone?
I think we should just one more. One more. You know, I'm one more visit my mom's
Baby look at the Dominican tiger bone check this out. Yes, that's the million. It's Chinese
But it's the way he causes the minute. Oh, yeah, don no. It's Chinese. But the way he pauses is Dominican. Oh, yeah, Paco, don't hit the table no more. Okay, I'm so sorry.
I'm going to have to regulate all your guys.
My godfather is Dominican.
But what I'm saying is, how does it feel...
Really? Your godfather is Dominican?
Dominican.
How does it feel like when you see somebody that you know that you've given them...
Because a lot of people...
Yo, right now, fat Joe.
Wait, wait, let me finish. Let me finish.
Because you know what it is.
When we're older in the game and we're talking to new artists,
sometimes we're giving them a lane that they don't understand that we're giving them neither.
Trying to talk to them.
So they just think that we're taking their lane.
So, like, has there ever been somebody who fronted on you and you knew they shitting of and then you got them back?
You know, what happens to me is I'm just so blessed that I know how to make music.
And I'm just, my shit half is making the hits.
The other half is knowing the business.
So, you know, I got a mean radio team.
I got a mean video team.
You know, we self-funded.
So I don't have to look at no nigga talking about, yo, did you put the money up for the radio?
I put my own money up.
So can't nobody front on me.
I go to war with all these niggas because
everybody got green.
Listen, what I'm saying to you, these
niggas, you know what I mean? I make them
pay for it. I inflict
pain by them continuing to
see me drop top
five records in America.
They got no choice but to swallow me.
You know what I'm saying? These niggas pause.
These niggas is over here.
No pause, daddy.
That must be a new one.
Good pause.
No pause.
Yo, listen.
Yo, what happened?
Yo, you're making them a revolt.
No pause.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No pause.
No pause.
Listen.
Yo, listen.
So I go like this.
The nigga turn around like this.
So I just make them pay like that.
Because I know no matter what they think, and they like, yo, how this old nigga keep
coming up with hits.
They got no choice but to respect what I'm doing so you know any nigga that ever fronted on me he fronted on himself that's just the bottom line to me and everybody come and go I know I mean
I don't even know how long I'm gonna be I'll tell you one thing right my album hotter than everybody's
album in the game we're gonna get to that too no that's a fact but hold on Joe but was there ever
somebody that fronted on you
and you was glad to see them fall?
The only...
No, I never seen nobody fall,
but the only nigga that slightly...
I'm glad to see him fall?
No, no.
I'll be waiting.
I'm waiting.
Not me.
Once you front him, man.
I'm waiting.
All right, do you want the answer?
Yo, give me the answer.
Give me the answer.
Where's the Tiger Bowl?
Okay, okay.
I'm sorry.
Let's go.
The last nigga and the only nigga...
This is the only thing we did the last nigga and only nigga the front like
Front it and slowed up the process was future. I was looking for him for a song on that plot out plomo
He kind of ducked me so he kept like, you know, and I'm not you know, I got a lot of
Nobody really ducks me. So I got a lot of pride. So I was like, I'm not you know I got a lot of nobody really ducks me so I got
a lot of pride so I was like I'm on they get we good but you know we cool you
know I'm saying I ain't got no problem with him but it's just you know he kind
of like duck me you know I'm saying currently yo I'll do it Joe this you
know I got a little dance with him and shit I was that then that's I was like
you know then maybe shit changing cuz I asked Kanye West he'd do it I asked
everybody else they do it something I maybe shit change maybe I'm falling off or something
The only other person that didn't happen was Ja Rule, right? What?
Ja Rule didn't come to the video cuz Leo I ain't come to the video cuz they'll call him but he in front of me
Let's get to a Leo Korn story. Let's make some noise for Fat Joe here.
Give me your water, Fat Joe.
That's water right there.
Just in case.
Leo Cohen is a... Because he used to play Santa Claus for Russell Simmons.
I remember you called me and said,
Nori, I'm bringing the wildest people up there to come fuck with Leo.
And they got to give me this Ja Rule claim. wildest people up there to come fuck with Lior and they gotta
give me this Ja Rule claim.
You know,
we gotta respect
Lior Cohen
as a businessman and all that, but
he's one of the
he was one of the
slightly attitude wise
bad apples in hip hop
history. So what happens
is that his
mentality, whatever his
philosophy is, he taught
that to Chris Lighty, he taught that
to Irv, he taught that to all
these niggas. So when we was having
problems with other niggas thinking
damn why these niggas acting like that
I knew that the shit, not purposely
but the shit went back to the root of Leo Cohen. Cause all these niggas acting like that? I knew that the shit, not purposely, but the shit went back to the root of Leo Cohen.
Because all these niggas looked up to him.
It's like the school of Leo Cohen is what you're saying.
It was the school of Leo Cohen.
So anything that we ever thought was foul or a nigga try to do this or try to do that,
the whole methodology was brought by Leo Cohen.
Now, I personally never had no problem with Leo Cohen in the world.
The only problem I ever had with Leo Cohen was Khaled had a record.
And I think Trick Daddy was on it.
And Trick Daddy was on Atlantic.
And Leo Cohen was like, who the fuck is this nigga right here?
Born and raised?
No.
One of them.
Born and raised.
Born and raised.
And we was shooting the video and all that.
And he didn't want to clear him for Khaled.
So, you know, we are threatening a couple of niggas up there.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all, I'm going to break your legs when I see you, whatever the case may be.
Simple shit.
Simple shit.
Yeah, simple shit.
Joey, he was caught in the crossfire.
You know, he was, you know, he's my brother, too.
Joey, he's a beautiful person.
But he was in the middle.
He didn't feel comfortable.
So then Leo, Leo called me up and started talking.
Yo, this is crazy.
No.
He said, listen, Joe, I don't give a fuck.
This fuck that nigga Khaled.
Because Khaled went crazy on the niggas.
So he's like, fuck Khaled.
Who the fuck?
Is he a DJ?
I ain't claiming shit.
Fuck you.
Fuck this.
He was just going crazy, right?
Leo called me. I'll never forget this call, right? But you know, his voice is shit. Fuck you. Fuck this. He was just going crazy, right? Leo, wait hold on.
I'll never forget this call, right?
But you know his voice is like, fuck you.
No, no, he was going ham.
Okay, okay.
For about ten minutes.
Wow.
But ten minutes straight, right?
Wow.
And then when he finished, it was a dead silence.
And I said, okay. That's how you feel?
Mm-hmm. No, Joe, I don't mean nothing.
Please, I'll clear it.
This, this, this.
Yo, the nigga, he called me all type of shit.
So I told him, oh, all right, so then you got a whole lap.
That's how you feel.
Not a problem.
You know, nigga thought about it.
He was like, oh, no.
Please, I didn't mean it.
The guy, the DJ gets me upset.
I'll clear it.
Don't have this.
Because he had to think about it.
You know, I'll tell you when they walk in here,
say what you want.
You got to see me somewhere, some show, somewhere.
So I'm like, all right, my nigga.
Yo.
Thank God for hip hop, god damn it.
Thank God for hip hop. damn it Thank God for hip hop
You know
You know I think about that
Right
I think about that
The other day
And I just think about
Like
And I say to myself
How fucked up hip hop is
Right
Like
Because of the streets
There's morals to the streets
Right
If you do something
There's consequences
That come with it
If you do something to hip hop
There's consequences
That come with it It's just not the consequences hip-hop, there's consequences that come with it.
It's just not the consequences of the streets.
So most people won't ever understand or they'll ever get the jast of what's going on.
But still to this day, I thank God for fucking hip-hop.
As fucked up as it is.
As fucked up as it is, I fucking love it.
It changed my life, man.
It changed my life. Yo, my nigga, I fucking love it. It changed lives, man. It changed my life.
Yo, my nigga, I just left my mother and father's house.
Right?
And I'm not going to act like it's a mansion or nothing.
But growing up, being born in Bronx, Lebanon, in the Bronx, and fucking being in Forest Projects,
the last thing we ever thought was we was going to buy houses for our mother and father.
So I just left my mother and father's house.
At that, my mother's a little bit sick, so I was there all day with them.
So my son came in to hold me down while I was gone.
But my son pulls up in the Benz.
He jumps out with jewelry on, Rolex on.
Then he graduated from college already.
This is all hip-hop.
You know, I drive off in a Wraith.
You know what I'm saying I'm
gonna rape listen to Phil Collins and all that I mean hip-hop some amazing my
name is amazing yo it's like yo gave us a chance man that's hip-hop and you know
I just bought a house come on He's having a baby. He's having a baby. I'm sure you know me. Just get money. We announced that on the podcast.
Congratulations.
He's finally having a baby.
Yo, Fat Joe, I thought this shit ain't work for a long time.
This shit ain't work.
Yo, let me ask you a question.
This shit works.
This shit works.
Ask your questions.
So you put Nori on to the podcast game, right?
To a degree, yeah.
To a degree, yeah.
You told him, yo, this could work.
Nigga, you get it. It took forever. He wasn't convinced right away. And I did the same thing to, yeah. To a degree, yeah. You told him, yo, this could work, nigga. It took forever.
He wasn't convinced right away.
And I did the same thing to Bad Joe.
It took like five years.
I did the same thing to Bad Joe.
Five years.
It took six months.
My money.
My money.
It took a couple years.
No, I'm not saying.
I'm not saying.
I'm saying me.
No, he's saying me.
Yeah, me.
Telling him.
Because that's what I'm just saying.
I just want us.
The reason why I'm so ecstatic
that you're starting a podcast
which is Coco Vision
exclusively on Tidal
is because I want us
to speak directly to our fans.
Like, again,
whenever we're on Twitter,
and I'm not against Twitter,
Instagram, or Facebook.
Let me tell you something.
Whenever we're on their platforms,
we're giving them our audience.
But when you're doing
your own podcast, that's
your own fucking audience. You run with whatever
the fuck you want to say. That's why 444
didn't win anything on the Grammys
is because they
couldn't give that black man that power
of saying, I can drop
an album on my own audience
and win Grammys. Wow.
This is how I look at it. I'm not trying
to be a conspiracy theorist.
But I'm just saying, I'm like, yo, I felt like Hov should have won four out of eight.
Right?
At least two.
But just think about it.
If they let Jay-Z win, then that's giving up.
I'd have bet he won two at least.
At least.
I said two.
Okay.
At least three.
At least three.
Right?
So the fact that he won none, I feel like that's them sending a message saying,
let's send him on the table.
That's a lot of messages.
They're sending a message saying...
First of all, the Grammys, beautiful event.
That's about it.
But the Grammys never cared about hip hop.
They don't care.
They still don't care.
Yeah.
So now, hip hop music is the number one most selling music
or listener stream music in the whole game.
Worldwide.
That's why the Grammys had to stream music in the whole game. Worldwide. That's why
the Grammys
had to pay attention
to it this year.
Now, on top of that,
you know,
so they had all
the hip-hop there
so they could get
the ratings
or whatever the case may be.
They nominate Jay-Z,
but then again,
they give the award
to Bruno Mars,
who's like the
whitest black nigga
up on the Grammys. Right. And we love Bruno Mars, too. So we gotta give it to hip-hop the award to Bruno Mars, who's like the whitest black nigga up on the Grammys.
Right.
And we love Bruno Mars, too.
So we got to give it to hip hop.
We love Bruno Mars.
But for a fact, he's the whitest black nigga up there.
Right?
So now you turn around, it's a fact.
So he up there, and they're like, all right, we got to give it to somebody.
Let's give it to the nice guy.
The nigga like this and that.
So it's always, man.
You know, I love the events around it. I love the brunches. I love the this, the nigga like this and that. So it's always, man, you know, I love
the events around it. I love the brunches.
I love the this, the that. I love all
events. And the food was good at the brunch.
The food was amazing.
Fantastico.
My thing is
besides that, it's like
you know, I always think whenever
I think about the Grammys, and I'm
honored to be nominated for seven Grammys
But I always think about Chuck D who gives a fuck about a goddamn Grammy
That is a truck. We're gonna make Chuck D was the smartest nigga in hip-hop. We're gonna make the Franny's the Franny's
That ain't no friend s well, we give niggas award we give niggas awards
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something Let me tell you something Mazza Peele did something
Actually this Grammys too
I want to tell you something right
And um
So
We need our own Grammys
No no you right
But let me tell you something
The reason why you work
The reason why I work
With doing
Podcasts
So basically
The game
If you look at Joe Button
Same thing
The game is elevated Big him up Shout look at Joe Button, same thing.
The game is elevated. Big him up.
Come over to Revolt if you don't want niggas all in your video.
You don't want niggas all up.
Come over to Revolt, Joe Buttons.
It's all good.
And by the way, I'm sorry.
You gave me the alley-oop.
It's time to announce this.
If anybody's on live, if anybody's on Snapchat,
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Do not record this.
But February 28th, without no further ado,
my food show,
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The star of the show comes
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Yeah, that's how you're supposed to do it.
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you've been hearing me speak about On and Run Eatin',
but I just want to tell y'all
that On and Run Eatin' took some time to make
because it was 275,000 an episode.
Not telling you I got 275,000 an episode.
I don't think you should have said that, right?
What I'm saying is,
it was a Hype Williams video every fucking episode and
the reason why I'm gonna do so listen so February 28 you deserve down man yeah
on the right I'm proud to announce
the press release just came out this Thursday. You want to know what's sad, man?
Yeah.
What's sad is, why can't we be happy for our friends, man? Yes.
You know, it's one of the saddest things they said in the world.
A cliche is, it's the ones closest to you.
That's terrible.
It's terrible, man.
It's terrible.
Because whenever my friends win, I celebrate it.
Yes.
From the bottom of my heart.
So I'm like, yo, my nigga won this and this and that.
My nigga, you know, and I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm going to be honest.
Yo, I'll be happy for niggas.
You know what I'll give props to for that?
One of the first people I seen to celebrate it in public was Rick Ross.
When I seen Rick Ross just rap college and I was just like,
I thought that was dope.
Like, I just thought
it was dope.
Well, Rick Ross
always been a good guy.
I mean, me and you
been doing that
with each other forever.
Forever.
But I'm saying
we ain't living
like millennium times
where we had Twitter
and all that.
Like, I just would go
to MJ and Boston
and you would go
to the left rack
where nobody would
have a picture of you.
If our friends win,
we got to celebrate
our friends and be happy for them.
Don't deal with jealousy, man.
Find your own way.
Find your own route.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's be happy for our friends.
Exactly.
Sometimes I'll be seeing shit and then it be feeling like, damn, is these niggas really my mans like that?
Because niggas don't be happy for a nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
You got to be happy for a nigga who got what I'm saying You gotta be happy for a nigga
Who got up off his ass
You know we was all born in this world
Naked
With nothing
You know what I'm saying
And every man went out there
To do what they had to do for themselves
We gotta rep each other's brand
Like we own it
Nah
Fuck everybody
Like I own it
Fuck all these niggas
I'm repping Crazy Hood
Like I own it
I've been repping Crazy Hood forever I've been repping Terror Squad forever Terrasquad, like I own it. Fuck all these niggas. Like I own it. Y'all repped it.
I've been repping crazy hood forever.
I've been repping Terrasquad forever.
And it's vice versa.
Y'all repped my companies forever.
And that's, I mean, I don't.
Yo, where's your Terrasquad chain?
You got stuck up for the chain?
I don't get stuck up for that.
I'm a shooter, man.
I don't know if you know.
I don't call people.
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But he's a crazy guy.
I know you're a crazy guy. Every now and then, I'm a rehabilitated crazy guy, but he's a crazy guy. I know you're a crazy guy.
Every now and then, yo, I'm a shooter, Joe.
I used to be skinny.
I'm fat now, but I used to be skinny.
I used to be a shooter.
Bro, you're skinny, bro.
Come on, relax.
Don't say that.
I'm working hard.
I'm working hard.
I'm working hard.
Can I get a tip, Joe?
Yo, we got to relax.
We got to relax.
We got to relax. Yo. I'll buy myself a... No, no, yo. We got to relax. We got to relax. We got to relax.
Yo.
I'll buy myself a drink.
No, no, no.
We got to relax.
We got to relax.
We got to relax, man.
We got to relax.
We got to relax.
We got to relax.
We got to relax.
We got to relax.
We got to relax.
You got to relax.
I love you.
Nah, we love you too, man.
You got to relax.
Nah, but yo, fam.
Yo, I want the people to know.
First off, first off, what is this?
Who brought this over here?
What is this?
Somebody caught a check for that wine.
Nesmazina.
Yo.
Nesmazina.
Notorious.
Big.
Yo, that shit came with the creepy, creepy, creepy.
Oh, my name.
Y'all, that shit came with the cooch, cooch, cooch. That shit came with Nesmazina. Yo, what's up?
Hey, yo, hold on.
Hold on.
Hey!
Hey!
Oh, I'm in podcast mode.
Yo, what's up with this nigga?
With Daddy Yankee, man.
Ain't you the nigga who discovered Daddy Yankee that nigga ain't call me me telling you my life story. Daddy Yankee's a pioneer.
He's a pioneer.
Definitely.
No, he's a legend.
He's a legend.
I love him.
I love him.
I was playing around.
Big up him, Don Omar, Artego, everybody that had that little right.
No, but Daddy Yankee ain't as loyal as we would like him to be.
We would love him to be a little bit more loyal to the New York movement.
What about Tango?
I would love him to be more loyal to the New York movement.
What about Tango?
What about Tango?
Tango was loyal too late.
Because Daddy Yankee in your world-
He became loyal, but it was late.
Became, because Tango-
Like, damn, man.
Tango became loyal-
It is too much, Tango.
We had to give it to Yankee.
Now he's gone.
He's gone.
He's gone.
See you later, Yankee.
I thought I'd see you.
I got it.
I get it.
You can't come back.
You know my story with Daddy Yankee, right?
Yeah.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm I thought I'd see you.
I got it.
I get it.
You can't come back. You know, my story with Daddy Yankee, right?
Yeah.
He used to be the dog.
My story with Daddy Yankee,
my story is,
when I used to be in the Bronx,
he used to hustle.
There's no doubt.
He used to hustle on Fordham Road.
We never knew this.
Oh, no, he used to sell drugs.
He was selling drugs. Yes, off of Fordham, bro We never knew this Oh no, he used to sell drugs He was selling drugs Yes, off of
Off of Fordham, bro
I would've never thought that
Yeah, me neither
Right?
Nah, I know it for a fact
I remember who he used to hustle for
Too, he's locked up for life
But he used to come to Jimmy's
Every Friday
And he'd be next to me
Before we knew what
Reggae Tone was
And he'd be like
Yo, you are the leader
You are the leader
You are the leader he wouldn't
stop telling me i am the leader right so i'm like yo chip and then you know big pun double platinum
we up in there making movies you in there jimmy you are the leader fat joe you are the leader
right so i'm like you know boom so we always showed the nigga love but we didn't understand
reggae tone like that but we showed him love because we see him in jimmies every week.
And I remember when I first went to Puerto Rico for the first time, the nigga was running with me.
You are the leader everywhere around Puerto Rico.
Next thing you know, the nigga throw out the gasolina.
Mind you, Lean Back is out too.
Lean Back's number one, 47 weeks out of 52 weeks.
Like, be clear clear my shit ringing but the gasolina was ringing too right i was so happy for this guy right so i remember i went to one of them
reggae tone concerts with me with you yeah with you and i'm sitting there and the nigga sitting
in the room right next to us he's standing right in front of me and a nigga acting like he don't see me and he was like and I was like he broke my
heart so bad
no okay I'm gonna fat Joe finish and then I'm going to answer that question.
No, but I got two things.
I got two.
So he said, you're not the leader.
But he broke my heart.
This guy been chasing me for eight years, calling me the leader.
Right?
So then when he had his song, I wanted to jump up and down and be like, yo, my nigga.
And he was like, I broke my...
That's the nigga that fronted on me like you told me at the
beginning of this whoever fronted on you he fronted on me hard so i was like oh my god i said like
this boom so then i walk in the store in the hood maybe like two weeks later and the nigga walks in
while i'm buying some sneakers and he was by himself so the nigga tried to say what's up to me i was like you my man get ahead with that the nigga tried to say what's up to me.
I was like,
you my man,
get ahead with that shit.
Nigga tried to say what's up to me.
Seen you up.
And he was like,
okay.
And the nigga got out of there quick.
But you know,
I couldn't believe it,
man.
So for years,
you know what I'm saying?
I ain't really rocked with the nigga.
Cause I was like,
yo,
I couldn't believe it.
He broke my heart.
And,
um,
recently cause of Puerto Rico,
we teamed up To help Puerto Rico
And everything
You know we all
Whatever the case may be
But he
He did
Yeah
He switched up on a real nigga
So did it come out
After Gasolina
I mean after
Oye Mi Canto
Actually
That's a has question
Better than me
What was your question though
First is
I believe Gasolina came out
After Oye Mi Canto
No
No
No no no
It was fun
It was fun The Oye Mi Canto. No, no. No, no, no. He was fine.
He was fine.
The Oye Mi Canto was already out
and Gasolina
was already out
because that was
my favorite to offer him.
My favorite to offer him
was
I'll do Gasolina.
And he couldn't believe
that I knew
Gasolina was out.
But mind you,
I'm connected to Puerto Rico
for real.
It was out in Puerto Rico
but underground.
So when I said to him,
yo, look, I do gasoline,
he was like, what?
You know what gasoline is?
And I was like, all right, cool.
And I already had the verse
because I was really into reggaeton.
He hated that I was into reggaeton.
I hate reggaeton, too.
Mind you.
Hold on, hold on.
The two Cubans told me,
don't do that.
These are the two people,
I swear to God
They both told me
Don't fuck with these niggas
I didn't like it
I did not hate Reggaeton
But I did not want the underground king
He sold more records than me
No
You're right
CNN
Nori
Nori sold more records than me
He got five Of gold plaids
Plat and plat
I literally went there
When he was about
To put the record out
And was like
Yo and no
Big mistake
He was like
Joe they're giving me
A million dollars
They this and that
Reggae tone
Nigga my shit
About to ring off
I was like
Don't do it my niggas
We street niggas
Nigga was like
Yo Joe
I'm telling you
These niggas This and this and that Yo street niggas. Nigga was like, yo, Joe, I'm telling you, these niggas, this and this and that.
Yo.
Give me the number.
And I was like, yo, you just can't do it.
Him and Capone is like EPMD.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So it's like, I was like, yo, don't do that.
Hip hop gods.
And now he worked his way all the way back full circle.
God does everything for a reason.
Yes, you're right.
But, you know, I didn't think that was right. But now,
it's right. Now it makes no sense.
Now it's hot. Now it makes sense.
No, no, now you was ahead of your time.
No, no, now, I like the
Bad Bunny, I like the Finucco,
I like the Osuna. I like them.
Now, it's more like my style.
The thing I didn't get about reggaeton
is how they would use the same beat.
I say Murder, She Wrote, Over and Over again. It's would use the same beat. I said Murder She Wrote over and over again.
Dembo.
It's called Dembo.
I called it Murder She Wrote.
Yo, my nigga, I never knew how niggas had 10 years of the same beat.
What was the club we went to, Paul?
We went to a club in Puerto Rico in 2000.
And my boy Echo, you know Echo, one of the biggest producers.
What does Echo always say?
Echo's a good guy. Echo's a great dude.
Echo took me to this spot
and he said, this is going to be big
in America. I said, fuck no.
And it was big in America.
I'm being honest.
Then it fell off and then they found themselves.
I went to that same spot that Echo
brought me to. It was a pyramid. It was a pyramid club.
And I believed him.
And I said, this it is. And I went to Rumba's. The echo it was a pyramid it was a pyramid club
This is it and I went to the room by it's like I got those first I knew it was first, bro
Okay, now what does it say
No, it's just a fact checker. Okay. Okay. Okay now, okay. He he's got bougie in here okay listen to what i'm saying oh yeah me gondo came out it was thank god the wrong was on the original on the mixtape version
original so what happened was we reached out to yankee when i reached out to yankee yankee didn't
have gasolina yet bro yes he did he did not It was in November. It was the next month. You said October.
Listen. He might have recorded it.
No, no, no. But it wasn't a big hit yet.
No. I'm a DJ, bro.
Don't miss it. I'm a DJ.
He's the first rapper to cross over
to America because Nori Thuom
wanted to join it. Nori Thuom wanted to join it.
That's a fact.
That's what you're missing.
You know who told me about Gasolina? I'm going to be honest. You a fact. You know who told me about
Gasolina? I'm going to be honest. You want me to tell you
who told me about Gasolina? Super O.
Yeah, Super O would make sense.
Super O said,
because listen, I couldn't speak Spanish,
but I didn't want them to know it this time.
I didn't speak Spanish.
All the Puerto Ricans can't speak Spanish
anyway. I went to jail
when I learned Spanish.
And the guy's name is Anthony.
So I got Super O, my Dominican friend, by the way.
Super O, yeah.
Shout out to Rock Hotics.
So Super O goes, Rock Hotics.
So Super O goes, he goes, all right, cool.
He's going to do it, no?
So I go, all right, cool.
He goes, but this is what I want you to do.
Because you're going to gas.
Because the record had just came out.
But it wasn't big yet.
No, it doesn't matter.
But I'm saying that's what it does matter.
It brought him in because it had just came out and I knew about it.
I'm fucking NRE.
You caught him early.
You caught him early.
I'm platinum in my world, nigga.
But your record popped off first.
No, it's not about my record.
I was platinum in that world
What the fuck are you guys getting at
We're talking dumb shit right now
What I'm saying was when I said to him
When I said
It made him
Like wow because nobody had heard of that
And for me being a
In America none of those records crossed over
So when he had a real hip hop nigga nigga, tell him to get a shot.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Boy, I got a shot.
And big up Daddy Yankee wherever you at.
I looked at you on the Grammys the other day.
I sat there.
I was proud.
Despacito, you had the baddest chick walking down.
I think they should have won.
The baddest chick walking down the thing.
No, they should have won a Grammy.
I feel like y'all should have won.
They should have won a Grammy.
That was big.
That was big.
That was enormous.
You know what I'm saying?
It's the biggest song. So I haven't smoked a Daddy Yankee in five, 10 years.
No, you know I saw Daddy Yankee recently.
No, I have not.
He showed me no love.
But I mean, I don't think he remembers me.
Yeah, it's OK, man.
From now on, I'm going to remember your EFN style.
No, no.
He was in first class with me the whole flight.
And looked down at his iPad the whole time.
This is one of the most gas niggas ever lived
in the planet.
He could star in Gianni Versace.
The only reason I...
Listen, the only reason I...
Because you brought it up.
Because he brought it up.
This is what happened.
First class flight to LA
when we was about to do
Drink Champs in LA.
He's the whole flight
right next to me.
And we met him at the... You should have told him I'm Drink Champs, number one niggas in the whole flight right next to me. And we met him
at the Source Awards.
Number one niggas in the game.
Remember when you did
the Source Awards with him?
So long time ago,
EFN style.
No, no.
It matters.
It matters.
My white beard is big in the hood.
Nah, listen.
No, no, you're right.
You're right.
You should have said,
yo, what's up?
I'm Nori's partner.
We do drink champs.
You're absolutely right.
Number one show.
You're right,
but he still looked at his iPad
the whole time.
And then I was in the bar accidentally at the hotel
he was at that night.
He walked into the bar.
I don't know, I'm just taking this personal.
He don't know you, EFN.
You're right, you're right, you're right.
And he turned around immediately and walked away.
You got to chill out. immediately
don't feel so bad nigga And they called me the leader for eight years. Damn it, sir. That nigga was like,.
.
My nigga.
I'm sitting in back.
What's the word again?
.
That's my nigga now. That's my nigga now. We was the kings then. I'm dead, I'm scared, we'll leave tomorrow I'm dead, I'm scared, we are going to mute that one. We are going to fucking mute that one. Oh Okay, so my dog J Havana See now Tell me what the guy touched there. This is my dog. This is my dog.
This is my dog.
My dog, Jay Rivera.
He wants to know.
He wants to know.
What was the inspiration for the crack attack?
The fuck?
How are you going to answer the question?
If you don't remember, then... I'm sorry. I don't know what the crack attack is. I don't even know what the you're gonna answer the question. If you don't remember then...
I'm sorry, I don't know what the crack attack is.
I don't even know what the crack attack was on Don't Call the Gina, right?
Uh huh.
Oh man, that was like a Primo beat. It goes back to the shit is real.
Yup.
You know, Primo whenever...
Primo is like a knight, right?
He is still a knight.
No, no, he is a knight.
Of the round table
Like if we had a round table
Of the purest form of hip hop
He really has a seat there
And what he says matters
And
Whenever I rock with Primo
You know what I mean
It's some raw real shit
And I try to keep him on
Every one of my albums
At least one song
But it's actually hard
To get a Primo beat Like don't get's actually hard to get a Primo beat.
Yeah, definitely.
Like, don't get it fucked up.
I got a Primo beat on my album.
Yeah, but he'll do it whenever he feel like, you know, nobody got juice with Primo.
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck if you not as biggie as Jay-Z.
No, no.
Chris Aguilera doesn't have juice.
He's one of those original hip-hop producers.
He want to work.
Yeah.
He's a hip-hop producer.
Original hip-hop producer.
In his own rules.
Yeah.
You understand what I'm saying?
So whenever you're able to get a Primo beat, it's like, Jesus Christ. Right. Original hip hop producer. In his own rules. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? So whenever you were able
to get a pre-mo beat,
it's like,
Jesus Christ.
Right.
Like, thank you.
You know what I mean?
But Crack Attack, yeah.
You know,
that whole Don Carter,
Gina was like,
you know,
people don't give me credit,
you know,
for like,
shit I've done in my career,
but you don't know
how hard it is
to rap next to Big Pun.
You don't know
how hard it is
to rap next to Big L. Like, these n how hard it is to rap next to Big L.
Like, these niggas was the best.
These niggas was the best.
And for me to even, for a nigga to remember me on certain songs is like crazy.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So it was like, you know, Crack Attack, all that.
That was the Big Pun era, man.
That was, you know, it was a different time to where.
The Full Eclipse era?
We have to be really.
Hey, yo, listen. Stop. era man that was you know it was a different time to where eclipse era we have to be really hey yo listen stop shout out to humanly he gave his life to jesus the lord i've seen recently yeah
yeah i've seen him getting baptized oh yeah um no i support that so can we do this or no we can't do
this what but um what i'm just saying tried. I don't know. You crazy?
What I seen him was getting baptized in the Instagram, and now he's down with Jesus.
And I salute that.
You know what I'm saying? I salute that, too.
I'm going to be honest with you.
That's how I get down.
You know what I'm saying?
I salute that, too.
I salute that, man.
It got real. It got real
I'm just trying
We covered every area
I'm trying
I'm trying
I don't even know
50 cent on you
I'm just trying
I'm just trying
That's old
That's a beautiful thing
And the last thing
Alright
I seen this on
I know I seen this
Cause being that you went
In that area
Cause I could have
Ended it before then
But being that you went
In that area
I seen Pun's daughter.
Uh-huh. She said
she posted something. She
called you the ops.
The what? The what? She called
Fat Joe the ops, which
is young people's slang
for meaning
the opposite? The enemy
and all that. How could you answer
that? As a person, that new pun, I probably don't know anybody else that pun loved more than you.
So I'm not saying you answered it.
And you said on your tweet, I can't say verb for verb.
I said it's so sad, man.
You didn't even know your father
like when he passed away
she was a little girl
baby
so you don't even know
your father
so you over here
talking about
yo this nigga's the op
he ain't really the
like you don't even know
you only know
what's being handed down
to you
what's being told to you
it's sad man
you know what I'm saying
because the love
you know the love
me and Pun
half for each other is unbreakable it was unbearable this ain't a. You know what I'm saying? Because the love, you know the love. Me and Pun have for each other is unbreakable.
It was unbearable.
This ain't a front.
You know what I mean?
I don't make no money off of Big Pun.
Right.
At all.
Since he died, I don't make a dollar off of Big Pun.
Right.
Not a fucking dollar.
You don't see me out here making Big Pun the greatest hits.
Right.
Big Pun reggaeton.
Right.
Big Pun this.
I don't do none of that, B.
I don't do none of that. You know, niggas be pimping niggas. Right. I don't do none of that, B. I don't do none of that.
You know, niggas be pimping niggas.
I wouldn't do that.
It's a million.
I don't even want to go there.
But let's just say I could have did all that.
You know what I'm saying?
Try to sell big pun shirts and all that.
I never made a dollar off a big pun.
All I ever did since he passed away was try to preserve him on hip hop and big him up.
And try to make him big hip-hop and big him up and try to make him
the best way and then when even like if we want to go there even like i watched his son's last video
he shows his father beating up his mom he was he don't even know that kid was like three years old
where do we get this info from you understand what i'm saying so we and i'm just like damn my
nigga like yo you know the only reason we paying attention is because you is my my brother's son the only reason you know niggas is tuning in
is because you are big pun son don't shit on my nigga that's the problem I had with the moms
don't shit on my nigga like you know we all got personal problems my nigga everybody got problems
in their family we ain't all out here broadcasting
that shit you understand
what I'm saying so now a guy
like me who's selling you yo let's not ever
disrespect Big Pun's legacy
I'm the ops do I sound like the ops
you know what I'm saying I don't get
it you know what I'm saying so
the shit you know I vowed
to never let niggas get me mad again on
some Big Pun's cause it really used to bother me.
It really used to fuck me up because I really love this nigga.
I went through depression when this nigga died.
You understand what I'm saying?
So for niggas talking, they don't even know, B.
Like, me and this nigga would have jumped off the roof together.
The roof.
We'd have killed the whole club together.
200 niggas on CNN.
Me and him.
200 niggas. We'd have killed everybody and been on
CNN so I don't know what these people are talking about they don't even know what they talking about
they getting like 30th down hand information right they don't got real information right you
understand what I'm saying so I'm just like all I can say is By the way This is my brother's daughter You know what I mean
I'm not gonna really disrespect her
I seen that
It bothered me
I said yo it's sad
You really was too young
To really even know
Your father like that
So I don't know what to tell you
How you could be saying
Incredible shit like that
You know what I'm saying
So it's fucked up
It's fucked up
And as a person
And I'm like you know Cause I can't? So it's fucked up. It's fucked up. And as a person,
and I'm like, you know,
because I can't really,
but as a person looking at it from the outside in,
but that was in.
I've never seen,
I've never seen pun
show you anything
other than the most upmost respect,
the utmost love,
and the utmost,
he was happy that you put him on.
Like he was, I don't him on. Like, he was...
I don't get it.
Like, and I say it all the time.
I'm like, not only was he happy,
but me and Pun was knuckleheads.
Like, we used to avoid Joe
because we were doing dumb shit.
Like, me and Pun would be doing...
Like, we were younger, so, like...
So, we would, like, hide this shit from Joe.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't hide something from somebody you don't respect. Like a father figure shit from Joe that I'm saying is you don't hide something from somebody
You don't respect a father figure
You know I'm saying like you look at you that means that was that much respect that both of us had for you like like
We wouldn't get high in front of you because I remember you know, I was you know, when I started rapping, you know
Don't wanted to rap I had to go to
Amateur night at the Apollo
And I
Had to battle 100 niggas on stage
Mind you I was like a drug lord
In the Bronx at the time
So it was almost like playing myself
Cause niggas respected me so much
And to go to the Apollo
And perform there amateur night and win.
I won four weeks in a row.
That's where I met Red Alert and gave them my demo.
I remember going to Ralph McDaniels to give them my music.
I used to have to walk 31 flights of stairs up there.
So I paid my dues.
And now when you flip around and you say, all right, Joe, you in the game.
You're the only Spanish nigga winning.
And then you meet another Puerto Rican nigga outside the
store who's a million times better than
you and you turn around and play the
backseat and let this nigga and then
this nigga get rich cuz yo let me tell
you some you can hear all the poor
stories you want as far as Nori know he
was rich yes yes yes yes and I've been
thinking myself yes so when I tell you earlier
Yo when I die
I want y'all to know
I'm a die fly
Pun die fly
Like this nigga had
20 Benz's
20 motorcycles
He had shit
He couldn't even use
So when I'm sitting there
I'm like yo
This nigga did it
Till the wheels fall off
You understand what I'm saying
So
You know
I'm like damn That nigga did it big But to just off. You understand what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm like,
damn, that nigga did it big.
But to just let you know
that I took my time in this industry
to help a guy like Big Pump
because I knew Latinos needed him for the culture.
To help a guy like DJ Khaled
who's filthy, fucking rich,
and I'm waiting for a steak.
I'm waiting for a present.
Fish sandwich, something.
Khaled has transcended.
He owe you a fried chicken. He owe you a fish present. Fish sandwich, something. Khaled has translated it.
He owe you a fish sandwich.
Could he give me something?
Some Junies reggae food?
You need a
Wraith with a fucking microwave.
Bow tie.
What can I get?
A helicopter.
A helicopter. Now we going there.
Nothing. So then let's just say A helicopter. No, a helicopter. Now we going there. Now we going there.
Nothing, right?
So then let's just say a big pun.
I mean, a big pun to DJ Khaled.
DJ Khaled employs maybe 100 people.
Right.
You know, big pun gave birth.
He still gave birth to his son and his family.
Whoever's making money off this nigga, right?
Then you turn around, you say, Remy Ma.
That's the most beautiful thing of your career is when people look at pun
and if anybody ever, like, you know,
accuse you of doing wrong by pun or doing anything,
then they can sit back and they can look at Remy Ma.
Now, Remy Ma had all the time in the world,
seven semis and eight winners, whatever shit it is,
to be mad at you. But she came home and she showed love to you that's that should be
the story how it reads as you cause is because all right cool if that's what
y'all think look this is what this is what I do this is in real life in real
time and we doing it again.
You know, we discovered Kool and Dre. Dre
is looking like a star. I seen her somewhere
and she was like, what? My new album?
And I think she got her deal somewhere.
She got millions somewhere. And she's like,
my brother Fat Joe is executive
producing it. And I'm like, that's how
my brother's story should be reading.
That's how it always was, though.
Because even when Pump was alive, the unity was out of control with us.
So we were so unified.
You know what I'm saying?
So it went wrong because the wrong people tried to tell a story and mix it up.
Right.
But, you know, that's why we big up Q-Relate for going to church.
And that's why I'm out.
That's right.
Yo, that's why we big up.
This is the second time I heard you big up Q-Relate. For going to church. I'm telling you. No, no. I'm out. That's right. Listen, tell me. Yo, that's why we big up my head. This is the second time I heard you big up Cuba late.
For going to church.
I'm telling you.
No, no.
I like it, Joe.
Because maybe he'll tell the truth now.
Right.
Maybe he'll finally tell the truth.
Can I tell you?
No, no, no.
If a nigga going to church and a nigga this, it's the best thing to happen to me because
I'm a God-fearing.
Let me tell you what.
Let me tell you why I say this, you.
I'm a God-fearing man.
I never go against my God.
If he's really converted and he's really in church, tell the truth, my nigga, now.
Now you come out and tell the truth.
If you want to really be wholesome and you want to be, tell him how I looked out for Pun.
Tell him how I looked out for you.
Tell him how I didn't cut your face.
Tell the truth now.
If you're really a God-fearing guy
Give us a breaking news for one
And say, you know what?
I found the Lord
I've seen the vision of Jesus
And guess what?
All these years I've been accusing of Joe
A shit that was a lie from day one
You know, maybe he want to try that method
Because you're in church, right?
Right
Like the malice
Malice is crazy
Let me tell you a story.
was it the end of Malice?
When you had the fallout
with Link,
he came,
you know,
Terror Squad,
everybody was affiliated
with Khaled
and Bugha
and the promotion teams
and all these guys.
And so when the fallout happened
and Link was promoting
his own project,
he came to do it.
What project?
His solo. We never heard it. He wasn to do it. What project? His solo.
We never heard it.
He wasn't signed to us.
No, no, no.
I never heard from him after he wasn't down with us.
He was too.
I never heard from him again.
I'm saying he was doing shows.
He was pushing something.
Yeah.
So he came to Florida and he had dates in Florida.
And nobody wanted to be his DJ.
I mean, this is the way I'm taking it.
EFM, you could have got hurt if you DJed for Cuban like that.
I did, I did.
For Cuban like that, you got hurt?
No, I didn't get hurt.
I didn't, I'm going to tell you what happened.
Because, damn, we chased him a million times.
No, I'm telling you what happened.
I'm telling you what happened.
Every time I see them, we chase them.
They came to me.
Motherfuckers said, they said,
nobody's DJing for him in Florida.
EFM, will you do it and you said Cuban Afro cube?
No problem, I didn't know what the fuck was going on and I'm like, you know what I'm not I'm not scared either
Cuz I don't know the situation
At that point could have been bad but I'm just telling you that we was high heads man I know I get listen I was
around you guys you guys were coming around DJ raw I was there it's not like
I didn't know yeah I knew but But it's Cuban shit. No, it's not that it's Cuban shit. I mean, yes, it was kind of Cuban shit.
I'm Cuban too, nigga.
Now.
I've always been Cuban, nigga.
My father Cuban.
You want to go meet my fucking father?
I wasn't into the album today.
I tried to bring him Thanksgiving to my house.
Remember I called you so he could meet my father and all my Cuban brothers and sisters?
Yo, I heard his whole album.
He was missing his pops.
No, nigga, he was something else, man.
Same thing here.
My father's stubborn, man.
Same thing here.
Same thing here.
Same thing here.
But the point is.
Super hard body.
There's a point.
The point is.
You DJ for Cuba.
You want to get that off your chest.
No, that's not the point, bro.
I'm going you, Emmanuel.
Point is, you cleared it up with 50.
We would like to see some unity.
No, what I'm saying to you is it can't be unity on that level.
I respect it.
I respect how it goes down.
Because the problem is, it's a wound that's so bad.
Like, these people try to destroy me.
I'm tired of talking about this and saying this story.
You don't have to.
So you got a guy who helped these people you got a guy oh the only reason we even know these niggas is
cousin me you got a guy who bought a nigga by the way for Cuban League I lost
my record label the ten million dollar deal I lost it for him what I said
nothing with Atlantic I spent 1.8 million dollars on this project the
nigga had pink on his album DM DMX, heavy nigga you name.
I was paying the Neptunes for his shit.
I bought him a house before I even owned the house.
I bought him an NSX because I couldn't fit in it.
Now, I took care of this nigga better than I took care of myself.
And for this nigga to go 360, the problem is me and him had a conversation after he got his
face cut. And what he told me was, Joe, I know you would never do this to me ever in your life.
Would you ever? There's no question. I know you ain't do this. Next thing I know, 50 cent blow
up from beef. He stopped telling him cause y'all, this nigga caught me. He thought he was going to blow up off the beef. But you lying, man.
You told me yourself that you know we ain't do this to you.
Why you went out there fabricating that like that?
So what I'm trying to tell you is I had a tough time trying to explain to people.
With the big pun, if I wasn't Fat Joe and I was a nigga in the outside, right?
If I was twin and I was on the outside
And I see Fat Joe and Big Pun
All day together as brothers
And this and that
And then Big Pun died
And Big Pun's wife is now saying
Fat Joe's a piece of shit
He ain't taking care of my family
I would never like Fat Joe again in my life
And wouldn't really know the real story
I be sitting out there
Yo this nigga's a fuck nigga
He shitted on a nigga's family.
Do you know how hard it was to get through that time?
To keep making music?
To keep people like my relationships with them?
Where he'd be like, nah, Joe's a good nigga.
Do you know how hard that was through that time for me to be here?
Niggas don't know my obstacles.
Niggas, at that I had war with the biggest niggas you ever thought of in your life in hip-hop music
I had niggas talking about nah don't give him that bread I had a deal with Reebok a sneaker deal
with Reebok I'm not gonna tell you who but big boys called up and said we won't do business with
you if you give him that deal that was a two three million dollar deal I was going through all that
so when you want to talk about how I'm here, I survived shit that you couldn't even believe in
hip-hop music. Like niggas was really
like, you know, Steve Rifkin
when Pump was alive and I went to him
to get a deal, before
I let him even, before I even
talked to him, and Steve Rifkin, you could bring him on
here and certify this.
The nigga pulled me to the side and said
yo, listen Joe,
um, eight people in the industry called me and said you're an extorter, a drug dealer, a bad guy.
They told me not to meet with you, that I'm playing myself if I do anything with you.
Then Steve went into my father's a gangster, whatever he wanted to sell to me because they didn't want to sell me everything.
So we sat down.
You're a big punter.
He signed him on the spot. And that changed my life as an executive where i had a new label deal with big pun but you know
niggas been trying to shoot me down in this industry since day one i feel like niggas is
trying to shoot me down when i got another exec telling me you're the greatest anr in the world
yeah then why you got a job nigga like where's. Like, where's my president of Sony or Interscope or...
VMI.
Capital or something, my nigga.
Like, we don't know what the fuck going on.
Who the only nigga putting out hits all day?
Right.
Who the nigga got Remy popping when she got number one most out of this?
Come on, my nigga.
Empire make the right move.
Empire make these niggas ain't fronting.
Guys, he make the right move.
These niggas fronting hard, my nigga.
I'm like, you know, they try to act like, you know, oh, like this has happened.
This ain't happened before.
Right.
And after this year, it's over for niggas.
Don't remember what I told you, Bobby.
It happened the first time.
No.
With our first podcast.
No.
And it's happening again.
It's over.
It's over.
This year, I'm going to drop three number one records starting with pick it up all three of them gonna go number one
You tell me another nigga been in the game 20 plus years. They could drop three number ones in America. It started Drink
Let me show you sir you got a double episode here man. Yes, he did. You know, I'm good. Yo, when can I have you guys on my podcast? No, we coming. We coming.
I got Coke-a-vision.
I'm ready. We coming.
We coming.
We got to ask
Stoobies Coke-a-vision.
Coke-a-vision.
Coke-a-vision.
I got to do Coke-a-vision.
Oh, okay.
Coke-a-vision.
No, you ain't got to.
If you would prefer to do Coke-a-vision,
you'll be the first guy
to sniff Coke-a-vision.
No, we got Coke-a-vision.
It'd be real cute.
Coke-a-vision.
It'd be cute.
We got to engineer.
We got to engineer.
It'd be real Tony Montana-ish if you do some Coke-a-vision. Bacardi. I'm good with B We got a real Cuban license. We got an engineer.
We got a real Tony Montana license.
We do some cocaine.
Bacardi.
I'm good with Bacardi.
I'm mad that you got the first Bacardi sponsorship of hip hop.
I deserved it.
You got Bacardi?
You got Bacardi?
Yeah, but a long time ago.
Make some noise.
Yeah, but I deserved it before that.
I'm not lying.
You definitely deserved it.
You definitely deserved it.
I love Bacardi.
And you know the thing about Bacardi is my grandfather used to drink Bacardi all the
time.
And I used to see the bottle behind him.
Is this the Cuban side?
No, no.
It's the Puerto Rican side.
Listen to me.
You want some Cuban shit?
How about the arromoro with yuca, my man?
With mojito and motherfucking churrasco.
Do you want the ropa vieja?
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
You're nice.
You're making me hungry got to you making me hungry
you making me hungry
chillax
you got to chillax
but what I'm saying
to you is
my grandfather
used to
just like we see this
he used to drink
the Bacardi all the time
so when they finally
gave me a check
I felt like I got
to make this back
I paid him back
for all the years
my grandfather
went to the store
and bought that
Bacardi liquor.
You had the bat chain.
I had the bat chain.
I was jealous.
I was jealous.
You know, they loaned it to me and they took the shit back.
Yeah, that's a fact.
I was jealous.
I was like, damn.
No, they got us your lives.
I've never heard of that.
So listen, man.
Listen, Fat Joe, we want to tell everybody that tunes in to Drink Champs.
We want to tell everybody that tunes in to our, you know, establishment, our podcast, our TV show, our audio show.
Whatever you is, you know, Fat Joe is our brother.
We want you to go in there and you want you to tune in to title.com.
Coca Vision.
Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Let me tell you something. I'm thinking about. Let me keep you. I want you to tune in to title.com. Coca Vision.
Coca Vision. Hey, y'all, let me tell you something.
Hold on, let me get you up.
Let me keep you.
I want y'all to go there.
I want y'all to listen to my brother.
He got for people from Takashi.
I don't even know how to pronounce that nigga name.
And, but I like him.
6'9".
6'9".
That's my nigga, 6'9".
I like him.
And I like to do 69, so I should have remembered that.
Oh, yeah.
So, Takashi. 69? remembered that Oh yeah So Takashi
69
What's a 69
Takashi 69
Come on
Casanova
He got Casanova on this shit
He got Mando on this joint
He got Ray Kwan
He got Clark Kent
He got Mayo
He's passing
Y'all niggas the blood
He's passing me the blood
Yeah
But he got all these people
On this podcast
I want y'all to tune in Stylespeed Chic You people on his podcast. I want y'all to tune in,
Stylespeed, Sheik.
You know what I'm saying?
I want y'all to tune in
because that's the fuck we're going to do.
And then what we're going to do,
we're going to keep promoting his clips.
And then you know what we're going to do?
You know what we're going to do?
You know, title,
that's the big dog Jay-Z, right?
And we are with Revolt.
And Audio Boom.
Shout out to Audio Boom.
And big up Audio Boom. But let's speak up to the black people. No, Revolt. And Audio Boom. Shout out to Audio Boom. And big up Audio Boom.
But let's speak up
to the black people.
No, Revolt, the big dogs.
Let's keep it black excellence
right now.
So what we need to do
is these podcasters,
like Elliot Wilson.
Why you ain't never
come to my birthday party,
playboy?
Hold on, we'll get to that.
We'll get to that.
Playboy, but why you
don't party with me?
Listen, listen.
These podcasters
that's happening, like Joey Badass and Fad Joe's and R's.
And then Rap Radar.
You know what we need to do?
We speak in all this black excellence and we speak in all this unity.
What we should do is have all these podcasts combined.
And when the podcast is on
digital platform, it should be on a
title. But when that podcast
is distributed on a
linear TV,
TV, that means television,
it should be on Revolt.
And that's what the fuck we should do.
That's what it's about. That's what the fuck we should do.
If we got title over there everybody
We fuck with over there title and then everybody had to brunch together
And I'm over here reppin revolt because I'm not gonna lie
They're paying the bills
They're not the most put together people
Listen listen listen, you know pay attention to this and I know you're not going to care that I'm going to say this.
I definitely got to take a piss. Me too.
We got to pay attention to net neutrality.
Nobody gives a fuck.
I don't even know who's net neutrality.
But listen.
They defunding the net.
Just telling y'all it's going to fuck everything up.
Net neutrality?
Is it like Bitcoin?
No, it's making...
The big... Hey y'all, Bitcoin you with? Neutrality like Bitcoin
Bitcoin I'm a Bitcoin does not make your friend you fucking rich nigga coming I had the crib out of plantation right I built my hope my dream crib, right? It was too boring for me, but it was amazing.
You know, it's been a mile for me in time.
Yo, for no reason, when I had the crib out there,
I bought a gun so big.
Absolutely. No, no, my shit was like
Tomar. Like, I was daring
niggas to come over the gate.
Nah, I was shooting shit.
My bullets was this long.
I was like, I'm gonna give it
to these niggas.
So bad they come through this shit. I'm just like, I'm going to give it to these niggas. So bad.
They come through this shit.
Nah,
that was out of some Tony Montana shit,
but it's all good.
I got to take a pee-pee.
No,
before we go,
we're going to wrap it up.
All right,
cool.
Before we wrap it up,
we have a thing that's been happening with Drink Champs.
They invited us to their weddings.
Yeah.
Drink Champs Army.
Again,
this is a fact.
You read this.
You read this.
No,
let Matthew, everything comes with a fee. I don't know why. Shout out to Lux now. We at Lux now right now. Yeah, three chance army again. This is a
Looks now right now save the day
Jay preach and retool
Now we got love for these niggas. Long Island.
Are they paying us to come to this shit?
No!
No.
Well, in Coca-Vision, you got to pay Fat Joey
to come to your fucking wedding, nigga.
You better fucking believe it.
Weddings, bar mitzvah, any nigga want my face in there.
Yo, sup, man?
We got a pinch, bro.
Jay Brett and Ratul.
No, at the back.
You got to read the back
and they're like
black excellence
but this shit
this shit like
hieroglyphics
why you got me
shout out to the
Dream Chats
if you're in New York
you're invited to my wedding
Queens
born and raised
party starts
in my place
in Astoria
that's suspect You gotta be like, come out to Long Island. Come out, nigga. Come out, pull over.
So the nigga's talking about, someone should drink Tiger Ball.
Get the fuck out of here, my nigga.
I know what this is.
Delorean U.N.
Shout out to Jasprit and Ritu.
God bless.
This is right.
Respect.
Respect.
Hey, hey, hey. Yo, that nigga's crazy. If you're a fan of Drink Champs, God bless. God bless. God bless.
God bless.
If you're a fan of Drink Champs, you know we always get weird invitations.
We just want to get paid.
We got to get paid for it.
I'm not going to lie. I think we might pull up to this one.
You might do it.
Yeah, I'm down, but we got to wear the turban and the humbug.
I think this is like an Indian joint with the red dots and all that.
Because it's G Spute and me too.
And I got Keef.
I got Keef boots.
I got new Keef boots.
The Timberland Keef boots.
Oh, the Keef.
The Keef.
No, that's how it roll.
Keef.
That's Keef.
Shout out to Ronnie from Keef.
Ronnie.
He from Queens.
He got some fly shit.
He from Queens too.
He got some fly shit.
Shout out to NYC.
Let me go first.
Go ahead.
Go ahead. You came to my store. I'm NYCC. Let me go first. You came to my store.
I'm NYC.
Go ahead.
You came to my store.
I'm NYC.
Up in the 158th floor.
I got to get y'all my credit card information so I don't got to rush to get the new sneakers.
Are we leaving?
We got to take a picture.
We got to take pictures and all that.
Yeah, you can't.
I don't know where to put it.
Come on, man.
You know how podcasts go.
All right.
What up, Dream Champs Army?
EFN here.
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We really appreciate you all supporting us, whether you watch us on Revolt or listening
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