Drink Champs - Episode 117 w/ Havoc, Noyd, L.E.S., and Tony Touch

Episode Date: February 20, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys welcome the return or Havoc (of Mobb Deep) along with rapper Noyd, L.E.S., and DJ Tony Touch. The guys talk Prodigy, Pun, and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First off, before we introduce our guest, I want to say that this is our first time. Did I see you since 2018? Nah, this is the first time we've seen each other. Good to see you, brother. Happy 2018. And we haven't worked. I haven't worked. Nah, we've been on a super vacation. Yeah, I've had meetings but I didn't work. I didn't even get to take a booking, right?

I didn't even have a booking since 2018, right Mr. Lee? No. So, this is our first time working. I'm proud. We're here, we did two bookings. No, but that was like the new year's eve. We got that three, so that's actually...

And what's crazy about this, the last new year's eve was my first time bumping into Prodigy. And we've seen each other at Akineli's. Oh, that's right. That's right. So without no further ado, I would like to introduce, when we started this show, we said we want to interview legends. We want to interview people we respect and people who have a legacy in this game and I'm standing by three individuals who who are the benefit they are the the picture of that segment when you think of legendary you think of career you think of Havoc H-A-V-O-C in the

building make some noise! You think of Rappanoid, Extraordinaire, let's make some noise! And you think of the producer extraordinaire, LES, make some noise! LES from Queensbridge is very important, not from the lower East Side. Not from the lower East Side. In fact, let me ask you that, why is your name LES? Man, I'm traveling. Hey look man, my name was LES because my real name is Leeshawn. And don't try to go out there and scam me and try to burn them credit cards with swipers.

But anyway, it's LeSean. It's L-E-S-H-A-N. And I used to go to school, and they used to call me LeSean. And you know that back then, that was the transformation of the Keyshawns and LeSeans. You know, all the girl names with the LeSeans. So I just say, yo, look, I got to break this up. and then my brother went to the lower east side which was high school wow and he was like yo they doing this shit down the east side scratching and yo your name's elliot boom we're gonna make your name elliot take the take the take the sh you know what i mean he didn't get it from

there but he went to school out there. And that's what they was doing a lot of the park shit and all the jams and stuff. And he was bringing the tapes back from the Cold Crush and what they was doing down there. So he was like, now we're going to make you LES as a DJ. But it really had nothing to do with the Lower East Side. It traveled with me to this day. Now, was your very first beat, Life's a Bitch? Very first beat on

Wax was Life's a Bitch. On Wax. Very first beat. That's a piece of noise. Now, I was just saying this earlier off camera. I think Rapanoid and AZ has one of the most standout

verses on a classic album. Do you mind if you put me up there while I'm leaving? But some will argue. Classic cameos. Classic cameos. Classic cameos. But I'm saying, where Diego at? Where Diego at?

Come on, where the Queens guys at? Hey, you from Queens? You better come over here and know this verse then. You better come over here He just, yeah, he just, I said, I said, I said, you don't know rapper Noi? He said, I know Big Noi. I said, my dude. And we, we, we were screaming the verse.

Yeah, come on, come on, come on, Eddie, come over here. You, do you know this? You know this verse? No, man. You got to know this. Listen, man, I'm going to see who knows it best, me, you, and Eddie. I know, I know.

I see. And we're going to let Noi judge who's gone, who's gone, who's the best. You know what I mean? Just like American Idol. Come on, I know. I see. If you're going to let Noy judge, who's going to win? Who's going to win the bet? Don't make up a loss, man. Just like American Idol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see. I see.

You ready? It's the R-A-double-B-E-R-N-O-R-D. You just can't fuck with me. Coming straight out of QB, pushing to infinity. You asking everything constantly, mentally, definitely, to the death of me. Come and test me, trust me. Man can't touch me, they can't even fuck me

So trust me, you're gonna have to Cause I don't blast you a lyrical Like a miracle, transpiritual I'm on with it, and I'm on with it And I'm gonna have it till I fucking dead and gone with it Cause I'm a what? Cause I'm on to hardcore A lyrical disruptor Don't make me bust yet cause I'm a wild motherfucker

You know my flow, you know my stilo Even pack my gat when I go to see my P.O. Bop the loopy, pack my gat when I go to see my P.O. Drop the booty, Pax my gat, and my loopy to a shorty, I catch my P.O., try to chew it to the alley, I know I start wildin', Clip it up nigga, clip it up nigga, with the ice goin' down, Get fire in me, so I escape, we're back to clean, Goin' for the fiends, diggin' more queens, know what I mean?

I'm a natural born hustler, I'm gonna try to cut you up and pull out the four of you. Woo! Yes! Yes! You deserve that. You deserve that. I ain't gonna lie, it sounded like you had cracks in your pocket in the morning. I could tell you was drug dealing at that time. That is drug dealing rap right there.

Me, I was in jail when y'all made that out of my head. I actually came home, but I could see you laying that vote, even though I'd never seen you lay that vote. Right, right. Y'all hadn't met at that point at all? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so.

No, I kind of met them after I came home from jail. But how did that come together? That was great. I mean, just back then, you know, we spelling the names out and stuff like that. Rapa Noi. And the name actually came from Stu B. Rell on 41st side. Oh wow. And we were joking one day and he was like, yo, you look like the Noi. Like the pizza? Like Domino's pizza? We call you that!

We call you that! Yo, before then, nobody was calling me Rappanoi. My MC name was just a joke. We was baking on the block. And everybody was laughing. And the next day, I got him to go to the candy store. Everybody, yo, Noy, what up? What are you talking about, man?

Yo, Noy, what up? So I kept it as MC name, man. I just did that. Because he didn't know your name. He looked like the Jack. You can't even know that you can't reject. You can't even stop doing it. He look like the Noid character. The Dominoes?

You don't see no Dominoes? Yeah, the Dominoes. I think it's Dominoes. You gotta beat the Noid and shit. The crazy thing, people that wasn't even there when we was baking, they calling me Noid,

they wasn't even there. I was like, oh shit, fucker. I'm gonna keep the name. Everybody called, they gave me my name. You Noid. I'm like know it I'm like I fuck let's do it and now you put 12 feet to right well I'm really there for 40 side of Vernon what is that I drove with knives in our jungle and the way the Wilson's and I'm gonna 40 side of running back from the down by I'm from the 40th side of 12th Street. Oh, that is the Rodney Jones side, the other side.

No, that's the Rodney Jones from the 41st side. That's Spunk's side. That's Spunk's side. Spunk's side, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So that's the 40th side. That's the block. I lived on my pops.

You know, he a number writer, so he was on that block. When he seen me hustling, he was like, nah, you can't live in the same roof. He was kicking in doors and shit. So I went over to the grandma crib, which was on 03, of course, from Havoc and them. On the 41st side. On the 41st side, yeah. So I did my bit on both sides. How come there's so much talent that comes from QB?

I think it got a lot to do with the Juice Crew. You know what I mean? And the inspiration. So Juice Crew was Molly and Shan, really. Right. And Rox Roxanne you're right once it's one of three you're right yeah so I mean the inspiration that you know they came from that probably it just you know you know it's just you know the legacy just continued you know on Craig G you know what I'm saying Trash you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. Trash, you know what I'm saying? Big up Trash. Big up Trash. People always call Trash when we make jokes about him.

Call him and let him know we're making him up. Tell him to get a hold of him. Yeah, tell him to get a hold of him. We love you, Trash. For sure. For sure. So I think it got a lot to do with that, with the legacy that was from Queensbridge. Because I know for me personally, myself, it made me be proud to be from Queensbridge.

You know what I mean? Right. I used to go to school and they used to be like, where are you from? I'm like, I'm from Queensbridge. You know what I'm saying? For years, because I came out with a brother named Capone that was from Queensbridge. Everybody would confuse me and they would always say that I'm from Queensbridge. And for years, I would say no because I'm from Luckwack, I can probably be from where I'm from, but tonight, tonight

I am from Queensbridge. We in Queensbridge! We in Queensbridge! I'm from everywhere I'm from. My side is the 41st side of 12th Street. That's my side. That's my side. I put most of my bid on the 41st side of 12th Street.

But you fit in like you was from there. That's my vibe. I put most of my bid on the 41st side of 12th Street. But you fit in like you was from there. I knew a lot. I came, the first time I came there, I had seen y'all bid it right before I came home. And I went to see these dudes and they were on the block drinking ENJ and it was the first time I ever really seen people drinking like they were going in. I was about 12 and they had the nudes. I was like, yo, this is real.

Out of plastic cups. This is real. So, you know, we got to speak on it. Recently, you know, our brother Prodigy, we want to say rest in peace. In fact, let's give him a moment of silence. Everybody just be quiet for a second.

Rest in peace, Prodigy. was recently he passed me we understand that and did you see the overwhelming amount of love that he received on Instagram and yeah I wish he would have got to see that when he was here that was the only like a negative part I had to say I was like I love that people show the love but then again as a person who knows him, I wish he could have been here to see that. Was that something like how you felt too, Noy? For sure, but Pete really always got love because we used to call him Science.

And we all the same age, coming up mad young, and everybody knew he always had that another level of mentality. His mind was always on another level. You know what I mean? And he got that. When we used to go do shows and stuff, we'd go into the guards. They'd pull Pete to the side, dropping knowledge. And, you know, I'm not, you know, too much into the guard body and stuff like that. But Pete would take some information from that and move on.

And then pick up books and move on from knowledge and share it. So I always seen, like, the real recognized real when it came to Prodigy. They'd do shows, a lot of stuff. from that and move on and then pick up books and move on from knowledge and share it so i always seen like the real recognized rail when it came to prodigy we do shows a lot of stuff we was wowing so we just bumped to a lot of drama but we used to have a lot of dudes coming to show p love like yo so we could dad this on the strip for you so he always had that respect but of course definitely wish he would have seen that uh you know that would've seen that. It was from people that don't even rap. It was from just, you know, I remember just watching the news. There was a random guy on the news.

Oh, he made a little... Yeah, he made a little tribute. Yeah, yeah. Yo, Tony touches down. Tony touches down. Somebody seen that? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm about to get to Tony touch down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah Oh yeah, yeah. I looked into Tony Touch on the floor.

Oh, right here, here, here. Yeah, yeah. So, um, yeah, he made a whole little noose. Yeah, that was, that was, they ran the whole albums down. They gave the report. No, he gave the report. But he was using the lyrics. They used the albums as the titles and what he was talking about.

Yeah, that was true. And it matched up like a, like a T. So is there a Mobb Deep album in the stash? Or there's something you gotta chill out with? Um, there's definitely a Mobb Deep album in the stash, you know what I mean? But I just wanna give it a little bit of time. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that it's a good thing.

I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. album in the stash or there's something you gotta chill out with um there's definitely a mob deep album in the stash you know what i mean but i just want to give it a little bit of time you know what i mean so uh very respectful is it fully recorded or is it something you got to piece together uh half and half you know i gotta piece it together stuff that's already recorded and stuff like that because you know i think that's what people want. You know, just one last hurrah. Right, right.

Of course, yeah. You know, him out, stuff like that. So that's definitely in the mix. Right, right. That's what's up, man. You know, again, my condolences to everybody. Because we all took it hard. Like, I mean, he was the craziest thing.

I was going to save this until later. But the craziest thing is that day in Vegas, you guys got up on stage. I was the first. He was right there. I was right there. So the crazy shit, his was crazy. I want everybody to really pay attention to this. I've been working on my full show for two years.

Finally got the deal. Finally, we had to pick the choices. We had to pick where we had to film. So I had a choice of Las Vegas or New Orleans. For some reason, they pushed me towards New Orleans. And the fact is, I didn't pick New Orleans because they pushed me towards it. So I said, I'm going to Vegas.

There was nothing lined up for me. I just freestyled. And it was like God made me like like see like the last hour like I didn't know I even was bluffing cuz I was like damn I'm gonna Vegas I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do I'm look stupid because I picked this and then it just so happened to Art of Rap so I was there yeah and Onyx asked me to come out and I came out and I got the CP like last moment that meant very much it was very deep to me man So I was there and I missed actually to come out and I came out and I got to see people

I mean very much. It was very deep to me man. Shout out to the auto-rap Yeah, that's a dope. That's a dope thing. Well, and the relationship that I see I have them all people's back Yo, but we shot peas, first video for his first album, H&IC. Icee was on 21st Street in Queensbridge. Come out to see me. I don't know what happened was, I seen him in the gas station in Manhattan. And I'm getting my car washed.

He getting his car washed. He was like, where you about to go? I'm like, yo, I'm about to go to Queensbridge. He's like, a prodigy shooting his video. He's like, yo, I'm going to follow you. He was like, where you about to go? I was like, yo, I'm about to go to Queens. He was like, a prodigy shooting this video. He's like, yo, I'm going to follow you. He was by himself. He came to the project by himself. By himself.

21st. He didn't know nothing. 21st. That's how he came to drink champagne. By himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Word. No body, no nothing.

He way too rich for that. He got to relax. He got to relax. I see you know how to relax. I love you. And he really thinks he know how to fight. I just told him, he says that on and off camera. He be like, yo, Norah, why do I need a bodyguard? I'm about to miss a good fight.

He's like, Ice T, you're going to get sued. You gotta relax. My brother, Ice T, I love him. He's always supported me. He's also on my food show, too. I gotta let y'all know the food show that we announced is on the run eating. It's coming out end of February. You know what I'm saying?

I can't announce who the head of the show is. I'm not going to announce it. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show.

I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announce it on the show. I'm going to announceall know the food show that we announced is on the run eating It's coming out in the February. You know I'm saying I can't announce who the hell is with because really I thought that we got past That they got a press release coming out next week So I don't want to piss them off. You know I'm saying no and they've been doing good I do I you see a marketing plan since the 90s these motherfuckers had a marketing plan since the 90s. These motherfuckers had a marketing plan. I've been working out since. Congratulations. A marketing plan? No disrespect, my bro, but y'all ain't got no marketing plan.

I love y'all. We got one coming. I love y'all. We got one coming. I'm stealing them this marketing plan. We got to step it up, my bro. These people ain't got marketing plans. So, L.A. What was your favorite studio session ever? Step it up, folks. I dare you. These people over there got marketing plans. So, L.A. Yeah, what's going on?

What was your favorite studio session ever? Wow. It might have been Life's a Bitch. Wow. I would pick that, too, even if it wasn't. And you know why? Because it was so, it was just so, okay, you know, I'm running around with Nas and DJing, you know what I'm saying?

He doing a zebra head, and then they give him the deal, and I just go DJing. Like, ah, come on. You said zebra head? The zebra head soundtrack. The move, yeah, yeah. I remember that. That was the first single was Halftime. Halftime.

That's when they, Columbia gave him the single. So this is 92 you're talking about? Yes. Okay, okay, okay. So, you know what I mean? We just going through the travels, and then it's just like, I'm just DJing, hanging out. I'm making beats in the crib. Cause I'm doing, I'm selling CDs,

I'm like the neighborhood DJ, your Sweet 16, your anybody's party, you go home. And doing Keezy, yeah, that was Keezy Youngman or that was Nas, man? Say it again? AZ was Nas, man. Oh, so you didn't know him? I didn't even know AZ.

Okay. So I'm just, just doing the regular, you know what I'm saying, DJing, just, you know what I'm saying, making beats and doing my tapes in the hood and now it's like yo, I just can't get together we got eight records just bring all your beats to the studio and I'm gonna go through some joints and AZ was dead. Okay already already Okay, so I bring the joints got my little folder floppy disk, I'm loading the joints in the 3000.

This is a real. No, the actual MPC 60. MPC 60. MPC 60. I'm loading the joints up and just playing. Look at the deuces in the building. Look at the deuces right there. Tony Touch in the building. Tony Thoka. What up Tony? Tony Thoka. What up? So yeah, so I'm loading the beats up in the joint, you know what I mean? I'm just playing. And I ain't even get to play. Come on, we're about to love scene it here, bro.

I didn't even get to play everything. The first record I pulled up was the Ozzy Bubba's Earn It For Your Love. So I'm playing the beat, and then AZ's in the corner just... He by himself just coming, doing his little chants. And Nas was like, yo, what you got? So I guess Nas listened to what he was saying He doing his little joint He wasn't doing a hook a was doing a round the floor and then he just made us in the village

This money I love being the fan but that's so you ain't meet this guy you play the beat and that nigga kicks, visualizing the bitch, listen to my voice. He just going. He just going. So I'm like, yo, what the? I'm like, what's going on? And then Nas picks up. And then now they in the booth. Then he hits his joint. Now the hooker's life's a bitch. And he dies.

So I'm in the days of God bless the dead black from 10th Street. They had the black. They had the truck. So nobody, back then, nobody couldn't take no music out the studio. Because Niggaz was stealing music back then. You know what I'm saying? The bootleg was terrible. The bootleg was terrible.

So nobody left with a CD or nothing. So I'm crossing the street in the hood, going from my mom's block to my grandma's. And Black Ed pulls up at the stoplight, bumping the joint. Oh, no. What the hell? How you get that, son? He was like, yo, come on, son. Well, you know Nas. He's coming home from the joint. Oh, yo. What the hell? How you get that, son? He was like, yo, come on, son.

Well, you know Nas. He come home from the hood. He left the tape in the wet. So now, they riding around with the joint all blazing.

So I'm thinking it's a fad. You know niggas from the products. Everybody gonna say, oh, your shit's good. They never gonna tell you your shit's whack. There's a few niggas

that'll just be around. They ain't gonna never give you the honest truth. So I'm thinking that you got for me that last professor Yes, everybody else yes Was a dream and like really until we started DJing and going on tour, and the world started singing the record. I just thought it was some project shit.

You know what it is? Nas. Let me tell you what Nas is. And it was the last record, too. So I think everybody heard the whole album but that record. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I just like that because it's the last record. But Nas picking you, by the way, he picked an awesome record from you. But it made Nas a hero in a certain sense because it's like I got Q-Tip

I got Pete Rock I got Large Professor and who's the other one? Premier I got all of them and nobody else nobody really knows you but you're from Queensbridge so that made Nas kind of like a solidified he did something right from the beginning and he did, he gave brothers a chance So that made that made Nas kind of like a solidified

From the beginning and he gave us a chance and you know and God bless the second record was sugar hill Oh my god Nas got the shit running. I'm like, oh shit So I'm already got this loop shit running. I'm like, oh shit So I'm already I've already got this moved up cuz I'm Dealing in the same session you say no in the same like the time that's didn't like not to be more Less than three months. That's that was the second like a follow-up in a sense It was a problem, you know the poem story about sugar hill Did you ever hear this the poems thinks that that he played because he won't have the same as that record, right?

He won't have the same as that but it's called Get the Cream. So it's the same as that record. Well, Paul has the same like sample. He sticks to the song. He sticks to the song. I was not there.

I was not there but apparently he played it for you or he played it when you was around and then you went and you gave it to A-Z. Never. I never really had the heart to tell. I didn't think that was the truth. My brother, when Puffy sampled Juicy, I went in the crates, bro, and I dug in the crates. And Nas was like, yo, go in the crates and let's do it. And actually when I did the beat, Nas was like, nah, man, I need to get on that.

I was like, nah, I'm going to get to it. You know, I had to play it for him first. And you know, man, I'm like, what you think? Wait, should the free talk about it? Yeah, sure, yeah. Wait, did you tell Paul you didn't believe the story? Nah, I never really did. I never really did because I feel like if he did play it.

And he loves you. If he did play it, I love him too, man. My father, his father's best friend Number one Raised off of the pig slip So you know what I mean So we good But um

Well he thinks he played it For Faith Noonan If he played it If he played it around me I For real for real At that time Who's on that

On that hook Is it Miss Jones It's Miss Jones And she used to Do her projects Which was right down A bike ride Yeah Big up Miss Jones. She's on the story. She's on the story. She's right down the bike line.

Yeah, big up Miss Jones. And she used to always be in the screen recording. She used to be in the recording. She's always been in the projects recording. Was it Stout that talked about that record? Didn't he say something about that record? I don't remember. We can go to it, but I want to ask you guys, what did you feel about Steve Stout? What did he say? He said that he started with that record. He said AZ was not a lyricist.

I thought that was crazy. No, he's crazy. No, he's crazy. He's crazy. He's crazy. He's crazy. He's wild. And I watched that drink jam, too.

But I saw it. We said it was crazy. Yeah, the whole 30 hours. Yeah. Listen, I didn't even know, like, because you know how you do this shit sometimes. You be so into it, you're not really peeping peeping like when I had to look at it back I was like damn I should have been harder like me personally

I was like and he said the same thing about what he said about core mega He said core mega was just a shot I didn't realize that I didn't realize it but um, you know, this is a platform Whatever his opinion is that's all Yeah, you know I understand my age when I was wrong easy today. He's my mother him Oh boy in the studio anything like that. He wanna heal ramen anybody like Big up AZ Why why you really a wasn't just as big as not um

Could have been the label? Definitely the label. EMI at the time. The rollout? Wasn't it the EMI version? EMI at the time. He was the first rapper to even break through on EMI on some street. To get a real hit record. And for real, the singles sold a million records. Sugarhill.

Oh wow. Yeah, Sugarhill sold a million records. They was calling me like, let's make some noise for that god damn. and we're the single solar man records so which are so you know so they was calling like I guess it's a noise for that got there so it was like it was like shit things like your house you know those 20,000 in the week I'm like okay what's that I'm looking off my hood 20,000 okay okay another 20 no no no 20 like, that's a gold record. Oh, that's a platinum record. So, you know, they know the sales when it starts to roll. They kind of predict where it's going to sell at.

But I ain't know nothing. I'm just making music. I'm just sampling everything in the crate. And like I said... So you think it was the label you're sampling? The label. I think the label... The label.

It had to have been the label. Because he had... D.O. was managing him. He was running with Heavy have been a label. Because he had Dio was managing him. He was running with Heavy D at the time. So he had him around to write people around. You said Dio? Dio. Oh, Dio.

Dio. Dio was his manager. So he had him around to write people. And then he was doing the right, you know what I mean, records. You have any opinion on this, Tony? I know all of them up there. I think as a DJ, like being around that, what do you think? I just, I mean, I think the label and. I being around that I just I mean I think the

label and I think the label but I mean I wouldn't know I mean you know first of all I mean like I didn't even know I was working into this is like the third time you're walking into this pick up Tony and touch that's why you know I was on my mixtape grind at the time man so you know these records just making you know a lot, man. I'm just glad to have been part of history and help break these records. But you see, there's any observation you have that maybe why AZ might not have... I think the label could have had something to do with it. He's one of the early rap artists on that EMI situation, you know.

I think the label and then Nas' success so fast, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, being that he was a birth from Nas, so even though he wasn't... Like an overshadowing type of thing? Right know I mean it didn't you know Nas career just kept going and going and never really went down and then A was just still stuck with I think Columbia I think Columbia Records was more of a commercial machine which Nas was on that's what Nas was on it was a commercial machine but if that's the case then that didn't start working until the second album because really,

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like, you know what I mean? It wasn't radio records, really, but it was enough to keep us on the door. Y'all on that door. Yeah, it was enough to keep us yeah, not on the door. Yeah It's platinum freeze is platinum in the hood Because you know what it was back then is you sent out a certain amount of records if they don't send it back They automatically get to you. Yeah, yeah So, uh, that's definitely that's definitely plan But we didn't have no problem with it because the infamous album went gold and then we came out with the hello nerf and that went Gold so

Gold at that time It was like some EPMD shit right remember EPMD used to come out and just go gold so That's you know now Mop Deep I ain't gonna lie man I wanna really really big you brothers up because if the two-man Arsenal like it led for us to come come to our ship But I just really realized I'm winning in home, you know what we do every time we film a podcast We go into people to Scott scography and we play the music. I think she was doing it on your own today You know, I just go and I just go listen to all the records and I just and I'm like damn that shit took me Like fucking the whole day like just I'm like damn these motherfuckers

Put it and then I'm gonna Ellie s here so More than a day we got no How much mob deep means to the world like I had to remember myself. I mean, it means a lot to me. You know what I mean? So, to even see people, you know, binging us up and stuff like that, it always felt good, and it always humbled me.

And to this day, you know, I'm still humbled by it. Like, I'll take a picture with anybody and say what's up. Right. Just shit like that. Man, that's a beautiful thing, man. That's a beautiful thing.

You gotta be, man, because it's like when you're in that store and somebody's like, yo, LES or have, yo, that beat or that, yo, you changed my life. You don't understand what I was going through at that time of life. So a lot of the music that was made back there, you know what I'm saying, the youngest and the people our age be like yo bro like really that was dope Who's somebody who called you for a beat that you never thought would? Say it again? Who's somebody who called you for a beat that you never thought would?

Who called me for a beat? Queen Latifah. And did it happen? It happened we went they flew me to Atlanta to Atlanta she had just shot the movie. She flew me to Atlanta, too? Yeah, she had just shot the movie, set it off. We was working in the dungeon house. Wow. In the dungeon. She paid me for the record.

I didn't even use it. I took it personally. Dungeon family. Dungeon family. Yeah, no, I mean, we just started working. But at that time, she was already movie career. So the focus wasn't as strong. She wanted a record, but God bless Chris Lighty.

God bless. He was my manager. He put me in the place. He just was on the phone like, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know what I'm saying? And then Steve Stout was my manager. He picked it up on the end, and I was with Trackmasters. Well, you had Chris and Steve?

Yes. God damn it. You just get a lot of money. God damn it. Let me hold something. Let me hold something. I know. Well, you had Chris Asty? Yes. God damn it. He was getting a lot of money. God damn it. Let me owe some, man. Let me owe some. Oh my god. I'm going to just say this.

I know. I tell the man a lot. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm going to just say this, man. I made a record that is Miami's national anthem. Which is what? Will Smith, Welcome to Miami. Wow.

Welcome to Miami. No, no, no, no, no. That is your, give it to Miami. This is Miami's dance. This is Miami's dance. Yeah, I love you for that. I love you, but I can't love you for that at the same time! I'm sorry, I went to stand up!

Did you produce, did Jiggy win it too? I co-produced it. Co-produced? Nas wrote the whole thing. Nas was writing and he should have wrote more. He should have wrote more. I'll bring him over that show. But my enemy cannot co-sign the record.

Hey look, public checks show it. Hold on, but we cannot co-sign that record. You said public checks? The publishing checks. Yeah, amazing. I thought you was going to say Hustlin' by Rick Ross or something like that. Nah, we're just talking about popularity.

That record plays, bro. No, no, like that. Nah, he's talking about popularity. That record plays, bro. No, no, no, no, but it's anthem-wise. I mean, you'll hear, you know what I mean. No, I know what you mean, but 10 million? Bro, 10 million. I hear you, but I'm Miami. I can't, I can't, I can't. I know about the Queens business.

Oh, oh, oh. I know, man, you know about the Queens business. I respect the check, but I can't respect the anthem bars. It's all good. Oh Paradise oh man, but it's like no, but it's trick daddy. You can't be Will Smith talking about Welcome to Miami. Yeah, he can't talk about Liberty City. You know what I'm saying? Will Smith, he didn't shout out Liberty City to Miami. Huh? He didn't shout out Liberty City. Welcome to Miami. I guarantee you don't know Liberty City.

Shout out Hulletown, Kendall, none of that shit. He was keeping it safe. It's all me. Welcome to Miami. I felt them though. It's all good. Shout out to my friend, Poe. Shout out to Steve Stout. Shout out to Will Smith.

Will Smith, you know what I mean? Yes, my guy. We always in there to Will Smith. Will Smith, you know what I mean? Yes, my God. We always in there getting it done. Big up to all the good people. Jazzy Jeff, we always in that. We did his album in two weeks. Incredible. We have four studios. We ran out the whole... Nah, they legends. Legends.

The whole impact, man. We got it done. He ain't writing nothing. Nah, he just came in and said, just niggas write my shit. He just said, look at somebody. Go on, man. They know I'm fucking up my ass. Niggas, I can write some shit. Go on, man. I was in the studio just laughing at them because he's so funny like remember y'all was doing the Colby album and

Colby and I offered the right Colby round. He was like You must be drunk. But did you play him? I'm out for them. You know where he was at? I realized my offer wouldn't have been took up. Did you know where he was at? Where? He was in Mr. Childs. You know where Mr. Childs is? Yeah.

On 57th Street. You know what the closest basketball court that I know? From 57th Street is over the bridge. Over the bridge. It's awesome. You go to the bridge. He's right there. He hasn't figured about that one. I'm not going to go to the bridge. Over the bridge. He had to think about that one.

I'm not going to Queens Bridge to play glory. It's like 12, 1 in the morning. I'm like, let's go. I got everybody with me. He just looked. He said, nah. He said, you're going to win this one. This is what I do.

He did not let people write his rhymes. He did let them know why we play ball at any write his rhymes. Why we play ball at any time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Queensbridge, y'all play ball at any time. And be mad loud. Nobody don't say nothing. And be mad loud. Like, you could be in Queensbridge.

We were talking about this. Yo, we grew up with full court basketball courts on our block. Like, you walk out the building, you're in a full court. They said that people have any backyard when they get rich It was like that When I move today black only 41st out wrong Full court everything I'm like oh yeah and this is your box is your pocket is all the unexpected his pocket oh yes he was over like he was one of them respect dudes

that he'll come outside looking for the kid I was like my job whenever I see the nigga like oh love it you know I drugs. He's that type of guy. He'll be up to a long run in them pops. He hella damn, man. And what is little brother doing right now? Daniel? I think he play ball too. He play ball too, right?

Yeah, I think he probably overseas. So what is... Now you just said you came from Russia. Yeah. Wait, from Russia? We don't like Russia. You remember. We didn't have such a great time. We got to try Russia a little more.

You know what picked us up in Russia? This is how you know this is not the place to use that. They bad said, Russians against racism. We said, damn it, we got to say it. Just be a nerd. He was like, if you got to say Russians against, we might not be in the right part of Russia right now. But you just came back from Russia. Now, this is a Havoc show, a Maldives show, or how do you continue in the legacy? It was a Havoc show,, support the legacy and all that stuff.

But, you know, I be traveling all the time to a lot of different places like that, and they just got, they show so much love, you know what I mean? No, they definitely have a lot of love for hip-hop. Yeah. Like, the culture, generally. Yeah, like, so it would just be crazy,

but that flight. Yeah, oh, no, no. You know, I love y'all. Right, right, right. You know, I love Europe. Right, right. That flight was huge. Believe me, that flight was like 10 hours. I don't know how we did that shit. Oh, yeah.

You know, the flight I had to Dubai. But once I land, I love Dubai. Oh, yeah. What's your favorite place to go? This is definitely a topic we talk about all the time on Drink Champs. What's going on? And now USA Network presents Unsolved, the murders of Tupac and the notorious B.I.G. from a director of the People vs. O.J. Simpson American Crime Story.

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You gotta eat your ass in France. Ass? That's just a romantic place. I thought you were ass in France. You gotta eat your ass in France. Damn, what? Ass? You gotta do it. It's such a romantic place. I thought you were gonna say front way. I thought you were gonna say escargot. And escargot.

You said you gotta eat your ass in escargot? You gotta do it. You talking about the butthole? You talking about the butthole? You gotta do it, man. I gotta do it. You gotta have ass in escargot. I'm not gonna lie.

I eat escargot. I eat snails. Ascargot? In Paris. Only in Paris. They got the joints that come out. I'm not gonna lie. I eat escargot. I eat snails. Escargot? In Paris.

Only in Paris. They got the joints that come out. How does it taste, though? Snails? Escargot? Yeah. Oh, no, no. Let me tell you.

I'm gonna put you onto the spot. They probably say it's like a mussel. It's like any mussel. I put you onto the spot. They put the green on it with the cheese on top of it with the butter. You don't even know you're eating a snail. You't even know what y'all you be like only do it in France because that's their delicatessen like this day but y'all I

had it in prime 112 is okay I'm here out here. They got Escargot and Prime 112 out here. I'm not having it out here. I'm not having it. In France, it's fucking fantastic. The Steakhouse, Prime 112. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not eating that.

I'm grabbing legs. Did you say your favorite place to go? I would say France. France, France, France. France is like one of my favorite places. Okay, yeah. And you know what's good

about France is you could get like the rich culture, but then when you go to that show, those are the worst gangsters in the world coming to a Mavis show. I know. Just coming to a Mavis show. I know.

I'm going to tell you like this straight up. The last two times that I went to Paris, I said, fuck it, you know what, let me go without security or whatever. So I went, and I think them niggas could notice that shit. Somebody tried to let me go without security or whatever side went and I think the news could notice that shit Listen one time I walked through the crowd the same exact shit you said and I would like this to do here give me two And the dude grabbed my watch and 150 down bust down at the time He grabbed my watch and he looked at me. He looked like y'all I could go Maury where he was like Hey, let me go I still wanted to give it to him. I was like, ah! But he had me. He had me.

So I was like, yo, you know what? You're going to have to go in. Oh, no. I would have had to run into the crowd. Because I'm walking to the stage. It's like the inversion of Summer Jam. So I'm walking to the stage. But yeah, Paris is one.

But I love Paris still, too. And I still love Paris, even though regardless. Because it's just like anywhere else. Like when you go somewhere, you get caught slipping. Yeah. Right. Anywhere else. That's exactly right you can't underestimate anywhere anywhere jamaica ave full street no matter where you're 40 seconds

mad police now niggas ain't getting robbed in jamaica ave no more you're going to jail trust me this camera is everywhere now i'm talking about coliseum let me let me not say you know why i said jamaica ave jamaica is too big. That Coliseum block, that's all police. I think a police officer owns that. I'm just throwing it out there. So, when it comes to eras in hip-hop, what is the best era in hip-hop? Man, it depends on who you ask. I'm asking all you motherfuckers.

Really? But you can't ask us cuz we Shit I love the coochie rap ever in the cane and You know I'm saying like ladies early night PMD 92 yes like for me. That's what I would have to say. But I've grown now to, like, oh, shit, this Mom Deep, this Tupac, this Nas, this Biggie. 93 to 96 or 97 to me is the opposite.

I'd be like, oh, I don't know. I'm a little second guess on, you know what I'm saying? I think that's my... What you would say, Tony? You a DJ? You know, I mean... It's a tie between like 86 through 88.

Right. Because Ad Lover, every time we have a discussion, Ad Lover hits me on Twitter. He says the 80s is way better than 90s. Ad Lover. What'd you say?

Every time we have a discussion. I mean, you got to think about 86, 87. Right, right, right. It was just like... You got to think about Kenny playing them. They was doing it.

You know what? Kenny plays. I think it's left on. I think Kenny Plays is left on. I think Kenny Plays is left on. I mean, now, like the way we talk about them, but they were big. Yeah, they was big. And when you listen to their records now, you're like, yo, this is kinda L. They was killing it.

They were L, and they really wasn't cursing either, right? They looked like they were first Will Smith. Yeah, I mean, yeah, man. And they was making movies. movies yeah it was in the movies like the house party right now kick your ass the full force and do our drink cast from the beginning from the beginning you started no they've been in this up from the beginning. Well, you know, there's a place for

hip-hop people. You know, this is what we do. We come here to represent our legends. There's places that, you know, we had a strategic phone call

with the companies and the powers and places that beat, and they said that they wanted to start implicating or putting new artists in there, and we said,

nah. Can't do it. Wow. Nah, they have It's gonna be our way Like they got introduced by oh gee they got all this. Oh gee. You gotta bring you you come with You know a myth bleak come with a castle over that's dope. Yeah, you know like mom but you know new artists They have their lane already. You have your hot nine seconds. You have every lane. Social media is all their lane.

You have it. This is our platform. Yeah, this is how it is. You know, that's how it is. That's old school, new school. This is, you know, it's together. We want to represent our legends. We want to represent people that have been in this game 10 years or more

and put in that work and deserves to be recognized and mind you was when we started the platform based on that premise we didn't know it was gonna pop it was just oh we did it because we wanted to do it yeah and it just happened to pop off you're saying it's just like I think it was genius yeah we need the mob deep Chronicles podcast to happen as well Yeah, you you rap annoyed, you know, I'm saying no baby Cuz you're gonna see you're gonna see the impact, you know of this because people just want to hit these mob deep stories, so I'm actually working on a documentary so that way

It's gonna be a Mobb Deep documentary. Okay. It's gonna be an extraordinary company. Gave me a lane. I don't want to say it because the contract's not done yet. Okay, cool. It's a good company that we all know. And they're giving me a lane to do documentaries.

Not just on Mobb Deep, but on a few artists that I love. So. Dope. Dope. That's dope. Congratulations. Let's make some noise for that. Not just on Maude Deep, but on a few artists that I love. Dope. That's dope. Congratulations. Let's make some noise for that. You got the name of that documentary? Oh, you wanna hold that too? Mr. Lee, open up your bottle. Yeah, I don't got the name of it yet.

You going Tiger Bone yet? See, that's why I'm trying to be so good. That's why I started drinking the Presidentes first. I ain't gonna lie, let me tell y'all something man, I don't know if y'all know, but I have knocked down a lot of industry bitches my nigga. You went straight for the jungle. Listen, this is young Wesley Snipes. Trust me.

This is about 90s music a second ago. 90s music to real. Trust me, you're giving me too much credit. You're giving me too much credit. I used to have, remember I had the pink, I'm not the pink, the turquoise trailblazer. He was chopping wood down. He was picking up to the hook.

I was like, this nigga's a little Wesley Snipes. This nigga's killing him. I'm not a father. I thought this was a family show. I just want to pick up your past. I want to pick up your past. Because at one point I was like, this nigga's half is really out here representing. No, no, no.

No, no, no. Look, go there. Go there. Go there. No, I just had a lot of friends. Yeah. Not dead ass. We were proud of you out there.

We were like, God damn. That's a great story. You were like French Montana, like how French is right now. The tone you have is, whoo. Y'all don't know. Y'all think I'm pluggin' to be funny. I'm actually being truthful. This man was knockin' him down.

I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I'all know you think I'm funny I'm actually being true man was not gonna down boy you know girls like that I ain't no, that's what's up. I ain't no, I'm a married man. I got a little vicarious to you. Or your past, or your past. This is beautiful, you had a beautiful past. Your book is gonna be great.

No, I'm going to walk. I love your book. He know I know it too. You send him that book, you weirdo. He said your book is gonna be crazy. Nah, I'm just gonna let him tell it. I'm not gonna tell it. It's narrated by Nori.

Now the Maldive movie, that got to be in. That got to be in the works. But it's still a challenge though because you want to make it... Well, the documentary would be first. Right, and it's still a challenge because you don't want to rush it do it too fast and just rush the don't rush it You know don't rush it, but at the same token With the person by happy pics when they buy a pig We got a big one right

We got a two-part one. We got an NWA right NWA sending sense. It makes sense They said this is a ball and I and I mean my personal thing that was too far. That's what could have been better We got an NWA one. NWA. It makes sense. It makes sense. They set the standard. And I mean, my personal opinion. I think that was the best one. It could have been better. No, I think the NWA one was the best one. Best one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By far.

No, absolutely. Because when I watched the movie, I was like, oh shit, I could follow this story. Because even without really knowing them, you still kind of was like, oh shit, yeah, this is the thing that we was hearing. Right. They put it together fast, but the people that probably was really really close and I'm probably one of them to put even more For people that followed them. How about the Tupac movie? I just feel about that. I didn't even watch it I thought it could have been better. I always do think it could be a more D movie It could be like they may pop them? Yeah. You think that it could be, like, they made Pog, they made Big.

Like, we talked about Mobb Deep. Did we go platinum on the first album? Right. Oh, and not real close or whatever? You think the world would be ready for a Mobb Deep album? I think so. I mean, movie. If done properly.

Yes. The ill shit is, God bless, because I always knew Mobb was one of the biggest groups ever, right? But when I see Peace Death and when you've seen like Stephen Colbert like just like different people just showing love

to Mob Deep it's like wow like that shit was sold out I'm telling you if done properly if done properly like everybody

would have to be involved everybody from the beginning from you know they gotta you know you gotta get twin you gotta get you know Todd Todd Eddie you gotta get know, you got to get twin. You got to get, you know,

Todd. You got to get, you got to get your trip. You got to get everybody that, you know, got to get, say, twin story. Like how that,

just that accident. God bless, God bless. That accident was crazy. Like that was, that's a myth to us in Queens. Like we, we, we, I know 15 different stories

of what happened. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just telling you as an outsider looking happened. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just telling you as an outsider looking in. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've always been like y'all family, but I was always like, you know, I'm from the other side. So I'm just telling y'all, that'll be something that they'll eat up fast. And you know who's the person to do it?

Because he probably feels like he ain't do Pop's movie right, it's Benny Boom. I think Benny Boom is the guy to bring home that Mobb Deep story. But even more outsider looking in because you're actually an insider. Inside and outside. But Mobb Deep is the soundtrack. If you're a hip hop kid

or generation, Mobb Deep and y'all's sound is the sound of our generation to a certain point. Like N.W.A. was the sound of a generation. And certain point like NWA was a sound of a generation right? And so it deserves that those accolades and in a film properly made and I'm saying I'm surprised I gotta be it would have to be y'all still involved That's what makes NWA shit so better than everybody else's because Cuba's you know Obviously pop yeah big one here right like this is no way you can do a big, fun movie without Fat Joe.

Of course not. Of course not. Like, I would be totally against it. And I have love for the family. I see what the family is doing. I get it. But... Wait, you're saying they're doing a movie?

No, I'm just giving you an example. Like, you just can't. And with you guys here... Vice versa, right. I'm just telling you, man. Everybody has their own little memories. Ask me something I would go to the movies for. Right. and with you guys vice versa right I'm just telling you everybody has their own little memories that

ask me something I would go to the movies for right so that's why you're saying if it's done right because you know the story you know a lot of history

it's beautiful it's beautiful shit it can be done the way you remember it just from the last time I was here you don't understand when we said

Ship One's beat was made off the project store like people still like what the fuck are you talking about crazy I understand when we said, Ship One's beat was made off the project's store. Like, people still like, what the fuck are you talking about? Crazy. But people didn't live in the project,

so they don't know that. That click, click, click. That kick, that kick. You gotta like the kick ass. That's regular shit. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, okay, the shot time, okay, I'm in. That click, click, click.

You got shot glasses? But that's a genius shit Yeah, we were just talking about that no me have a so come on I used to be you being a project shell and the habit just dip off He upstairs Make it a be cooking Yeah, I don't lie let me tell you I have you some piece of power down a lot of stuff You know so you ain't go with him or me tell you. But he used to power down a lot of stuff, you know? So if you ain't go with him, or like, he was good at making beats in the studio.

Like, let me get you one right now. See? He'll be like, nah, I don't like your power. I'll be like, nah, what you doing? I'll be like, I made Afro and Nod right there in the studio with Nas and Ray Cuomo. I just was like, boom. You see how Nas and Nod, he say that, though? Did you hear what he just said?

You got to understand. First of all, first of all, we coming back to that, Okay, remind me to go back to that please, my brother. But I ain't going to lie, I'm going to tell you what makes that crazy is you can go on the studio with Hal, you can lay some shit and then leave and he'll come back and he'll have three different more beats to the same exact shit. You're like, this one was whack. I'm like, yo, what do you mean? How about that one?

He can still have a whole another shit. And it's better than that. You can't argue with him. And then I remember Corral Violators, that was like the third version. I was like, yo, Haz does go. Remember, I told, look, Haz does that. When Haz does that, I said, yo, you're on your habit shit.

He'll just keep making the beat better and better. Like, that's some habit shit. He'll just keep making the beat better and better. Like that's some genius shit. Huh? Nah, it's just that I'm just never satisfied and I'm my own worst critic when it comes to beats. Tony Tess can attest to that probably, right? When you be making the beats, he be like, you'll never beat done if somebody don't say,

yo, that's it. No, that's the truth, he's the truth, he's right. Like if you don't have that artist there to be like, oh, no, no, no, that's it. I'm gonna finish it out right there. Hell or chill half. Right. Let's just go and be like, nah, we ain't gonna play for you. You don't need to hear that.

You're like, nah, play that beat right there and you'll skip it. Skip it and get back to it. You trying to find it. Somebody be like, yo, no, that's it. And then you be like, you know what I'm saying? That BP. Okay, they want shots. God's it. And then you'd be like That baby, okay, he wants jobs goddamn Well, we gotta go back to that story and rape on awful. I I for not it wasn't even that big first It was it wasn't that beat at record? It was the same sample, but then I switched it. How it start off? How it start off?

We hit this together son, and your beats is mine. I ain't gonna lie, as a producer I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. No, you can't say as a producer. You're not a producer. No, as a producer, you was just showing off. Showing off. You was showing off. You was like, I got just showing off. Showing off. You were showing off. You was like, I got this. Let me show you. Because that's your cable.

I'm like,. . . . You was just like, nigga, I got this. And you always waited to see. That beat was smackin', niggas. Nobody, everybody pretty much.

Let's talk about that. And you always waited to hear what the snare was going to sound like. As long as that snare drum ain't switched off. What machine you use? What machine you use on that one? I probably use the MPC 660. Every machine he got, when I went to the 41st side and we was doing music, you know, on the 40th side I was hustling, so we went on the 41st side, I was like, music.

The only thing he got, he was yo, hell, I got the 3000, got the 50, 60. You win and got it, too. Man, we was on it. Let's get this. Let's get a shot of Tiger Down. We celebrate at LES, Rapper Noy, R-D, Happy, AJ, DMT.

Oh, nigga got Tiger Bone beer. Tiger Bone beer, Tiger Down, Tiger Down. Yo, give him another shot, give him Bone beer. Tiger down. Tiger down. Yeah, give him another shot. Give him another shot. Tiger down. Yeah, yeah. Yo, listen, man. This is my first time drinking Tiger Bone.

Yo, listen. What is it? Good luck. Good luck. What is it? What is it? It's horrible, man. This is to LES, Tone Touch, Mobb Deep,

Legends, legends. This is to y'all. Salutes. Salutes. Thank y'all. Enjoy. This is terrible. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Oh, we shouldn't be drinking that. Ah! Salud! You're ready to play like if you can you want doing this on man? We should be we should be doing it you won't knock it out the park, but it's not like my

Music because Yo, don't say that out loud. Don't say that out loud. Where is it from, though? That shit is from Beijing. No, no, we bought a case, and that shit came straight from China. It had Chinese. It was crazy. We've been fucking with the Chinese. What's going on? Yeah, crazy.

They're going to ban us in a minute. So it's ginseng. It's a bunch of roots, but originally, supposedly, the Chinese were killing tigers and smashing the bones and putting like ginseng Right, but then obviously they all that shit got banned because it was actually killing tigers, right? So now it's just all roots like a bunch of roots. Okay. Yeah, you can find that any Jamaican spot roots and culture So It tastes like culture. Rude tin culture. Rude tin culture. So Hip Hop, how you, how, now if Havoc right now, if 6ix9ine, you know who 6ix9ine is? What's his name? The guy from here.

What's his, what's his other, Takachi Hashi? Takachi. Alright, now, if he calls you for a beat, what does Havoc say right now? You give him a chance. I say yes. Give him a chance. Why not? No, I'm asking. No say yes. Give him a chance. Why not? No, I'm asking.

Because at the end of the day, all jokes aside, I'm a music man, like I love music period, so I don't get caught up in the old, you know, I don't like this music, and I don't like the new music. Like a lot of the shit I don't like today, but a lot of the shit back in the days, I didn't like either, so.

You know what I mean? So I'm just a music man, but, you know, I will lean more towards, you know, my vibe of music, but I always love a challenge, so. If anybody came to me for a beat, I'd be like, okay. But what if they did something on the beat you didn't like? What would you do at that point? The check gotta be a little different.

The check would make the difference. Check would make the difference. I ain't mad at that. Nah, but Ojo Kusada, if they did something that you didn't like over it, what do you tell her, honestly? Like would you try to produce them, like the way it used to be?

You could try to guide them. Guide, guide, that's a great, that's a great, You could try to guide them and be like, yo, you know, maybe you should do it like this. And as long as you're not doing it in a way that is, you don't want to disrespect an artist when he's doing his craft. Just be mindful that he's probably trying his hardest, so you do want to guide him onto what he's doing with that.

Right, but it's your art as well, because it's your beat. Yeah. So I feel like you have every sense to tell them, but it's your art as well, because it's your beat. So I feel like you have every sense to tell him what to do on your beat as well. You should have input. Yeah, but he's still paying for it. You know what I'm saying? I get you. You can't just be like, nah, nigga, don't do this.

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Came out the EP the first album Now yes, why don don't think Nature album... went to the forefront of music? Because at the end of the day, that was Nas' protege, right? And he had the buzz. I remember just off of Clue freestyles, Nature was all over the world why you don't think me when the the way he should have went it was a little tough

cuz I think nature was dealing with the firm battle and it was the end it was the hour so the tools that could have probably gotten him closer to the well, he probably didn't get that chance to. You know, they were dealing with the streets and dealing with Cornish Ridge and the day-to-day that was outside of the music, you know what I'm saying? So, Trackmaster's tried. They tried without Nas' help. Just saw some...

What's the name? But I think it was a little... And what's your relationship? How? What's your relationship with Trackmasters now? Oh, shit, everything good. My phone didn't ring, but we good. I told him.

They starting a new... Steve Stiles starting a new... I love them, man. You can never be mad at somebody that brought me to a well Yeah, and you feed your family over so it's real shit We are often Queensborough's that's the obvious thing, but I'm not used to seeing LES with mob deep So what's going on? Yeah? what are you doing? Y'all quiet together, like come on. They stuck on their show.

What's the good thing? Announce it to the people. Tell it to the people, come on. I mean, first of all, number one, you know, the, you know, P passed away and stuff like that. So they holding me down. You know what I mean? This is a

time where I just need people that I know around me to hold me down. And then in the process of that, obviously, LES, he's a producer, I'm a producer. So we trying to team up and do stuff, and then we got Noid here. So we just want to just all stick together you know you know like this you know so yeah we talk back in

the day yeah stick together so you know if it wasn't for these two right here I don't know what I would be doing right now you know saying on a daily basis like I probably just be by myself because who could I bring on on the road with me there's these two they both for my block so right Queensbury's I've seen it on stage rock steady anniversary oh that's right and I caught in like I was like the prody tribute, like how they gonna do this, you know? Right. And then, it hadn't even come out for us, Noid came out for us. I started his shit and I was like, okay, this is gonna be a goal right now.

I just felt it right away, you felt the energy and the family and the togetherness. But like I said, it was Prodigy tribute, so nobody knew how it was gonna be presented. But when Noid came out, off the top, it was a Prodigy tribute, so nobody knew how it was gonna be presented. Right. But when Nord came out, off the top, what was the first song you performed? It probably was Give Up the Goods. Yeah, that was it. And yo, Queens get the money.

And it came right off, bam! So it was like, all right, we're good. Yeah, that's how we started the show. And you know what is a monster on that stage? Nah. Is that your favorite place or the studio? What you like more, though? The stage.

Stage? I love performing. Literally, like, I realize, like, my name's Tawan Perry, but on stage, I'm rapping on it, off top. There's a separation off top. Easy, and it comes easy to do that. It's more of the music, man. You're huge in Europe.

You know how big you are in Europe? I get so much love out there. Like, so when I'm home, it's more of the music you're huge in europe you know how big you are in europe i get so much love out there like so when i'm home it's like yo somebody looking at me like is that them you know you know what i mean recognize something you know what i mean but over there it's like yo can i get a picture of this you know what i mean i'm just over here on the block you know you're actually living in florida right somebody Somebody told me. I'm in Tampa. I'm in Tampa right now, man. Okay, man.

You right down the block. Man, you right here. Man, come spread some Miami love. Definitely, man. This is where niggas retire. That's right. Exactly, man. All right, man.

Now, let's not lie. We've been trying to get him on solo, too. Yes, yes. For a minute, yes. This is beautiful because you know why? And God bless you for being a little emotional. I could feel Prodigy watching us right now feel that like I'm saying oh look at these niggas they hold me down

downstairs I said to you I said congrats you know I mean that from from the heartline for real this shit is big this. God, this is ill. So you killed it. When y'all came up, I was running behind y'all. And Pete would love that. For real. Right now, like, you know what I mean? Because, you know, before he passed, like you said, he was right there. Yeah, I was right there.

That was the craziest thing. And I remember you was shooting the food show. And look, look at that part of me for cutting your wisdom. But I said to him, I said, I said it to you too. I said, I'm getting drunk tonight,

both of y'all niggas drunk tonight. No excuse. And you said, I'm coming back, right? And you know, and you know what he said? God bless.

He said, I ain't feeling that good tonight. But he, I've been hearing him say that for 15 years on the road. So it wasn't, I felt like it was always, that was his way of like, yo chill let me let me relax.

And I, so I didn't think of nothing. So when I heard you say that same story, I was like, holy shit, I was like, cause he said to you he didn't feel good that night or something like that. Yeah, but it was. Yeah, but like I said, I heard that so many times. Like you know, so you know, God bless. But you know what we're going to do?

We're going to make sure Mobb Deep. We're going to make sure Rapper Noy, LES, Tony Touch. We're going to make sure that hip-hop continues to respect that name. Prodigy, Mobb Deep. And we're going to continue to respect that legacy. Because it hurts me in hip-hop where a person can't make it to a certain place and big up the next man I say I respect you For what you did what you're doing

Like that that's why I guess this is this shit is working is because we don't mind big enough That's what we want to do because what the fuck we're gonna expect fucking country music to big you up Ain't fucking with y'all I love y'all. I know your verses and we're always big This this this what he was talking about. Everybody owning their own. You know what I mean? If you really go back and listen to P music, it's deeper than rap.

We all know that. I got to ask this one question. I'm sorry to cut you off. So sorry, because these fans are going to kill me for this. But one question is that it keeps arriving, and I just want to ask it. I don't believe it, but I just want to ask it. Every time I go on the internet and anything is posted about prodigy They say that prodigy was writing an Illuminati book

So people feel like there was a conspiracy there is a conspiracy Conspiracy there. Yeah, and I just have to ask that because That question just keeps my credit is just it hurts to ask that because that question just keeps popping up. Yeah, it hurts to hear that, though, man. Well, I don't know of any Illuminati thing when it came to Prodigy, but I knew that he was enlightened and he did talk about a lot of stuff. Because they say he was writing an actual book. I've heard it from people like Busta Rhymes that confirmed that story. He said Prodigy was.

I heard interviews where he talked about the stuff. Writing a book. And so now, so people take that, like, you know, like just regular fans on the internet and they try to say that

this was some conspiracy because they say like the age doesn't make sense. I say that to myself too. Yeah. But I mean, it's all speculation, right?

It's all speculation. I mean, you know, I don't want to even really kind of feed that fire You know I'm saying I want to kind of keep his legacy alive Exactly, but you know we do hear the things where they be like, oh Illuminati and this that and the third matter of fact, I was just watching Van Jones today And at the end what CNN. With Jay-Z? Yeah, with Jay-Z. And he was with Jay-Z. And at the end, what did he ask Jay-Z?

Oh, I didn't see it. What happened? No, I didn't watch it. What did he ask? He was like, are you Illuminati? Oh, he asked him that? Get the fuck out of here. I had the water on.

I couldn't hear him. I knew he said no. But anyway, that's the same thing that we go through with the whole Illuminati. If you have success, then just say you're Illuminati. It's success. How about this? Just think about if that was kind of true, right? Would I want to sit here and say, fuck it, yeah? Exactly.

He ain't coming in my room. I don't know if that shit is true or not, but I know that my brother was enlightened, and he spoke a lot of truth. And, you know, I just want to remember the dope days. The legacy, the legacy. Because Traz, you know, Traz is my brother, too. And, like, you know, he got me scared to sleep at night

that shit that Traz be talking about. I don't even want to talk to Traz sometimes. Like, he be like, you know um he got me scared to sleep at night this is trash be talking about You know the street lights they really Come on I want to sleep You know you know what I'm starting to figure out that this is a little crazy But cuz I'm you know I managed made it Yeah, and they did the video with Lil Wayne. They did a jungle with Lil Wayne. They did two videos with Lil Wayne Yeah, and then fans honed in on this video and they started to say

Homie got a t-shirt that got this sign and then when he played the guitar It was a diamond t-shirt Yeah, he did this and then he did and then Illuminati! I could turn you into Illumin bit out of you right now with that shirt But I'm saying that's what made me realize it when they started Maybe they're like yo, they looked at the little lame video. They're like Illuminati. I'm like, oh man I think his little way making a record with these guys and this was random They looked at the Lil Wayne video and they're like, Illuminati! I'm like, oh man.

And then here's Lil Wayne making a record with these guys. And then she was random. We did that video with Matt Random. And these motherfuckers turned it into an Illuminati conspiracy. I'm like, oh now I can't believe anything that I used to think about too. If you counted the Surrock bottles on the table right now.

It looks like a little number. Yeah, it's a number. I told you what I had. I told you how many mics this is. right now Small word number God look you know re album like this I have no idea and your then Melvin Flair, I'm like, there. There you go. This is just Luminar. I have no idea.

These niggas, this nigga been on Luminar forever. I was like, Jesus, I wish I was, because I don't need the card. Like, I don't get it in certain places. They're at a Roc Nation brunch. I had to get an invite. I don't know if they knew I was in Miami. I'm just saying, I don't watch these niggas. You need that pass, man.

With that police pull you over here. Yeah, I want it. Come on, nigga. I'm just saying. I don't watch that. You need that ass, man. With that police pull you over. Yeah. I want it. Come on, nigga. I want mine. Ain't no conspiracy in that. That's just fucked up. You know what I'm saying?

I tell some of my homies, I tell them, there's no conspiracy. The conspiracy is the conspiracy. The word conspiracy is the conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's deflecting the truth. Right. You know what I'm saying?

You're making up another truth, and you're not seeing what's really going on. Because Bob calling it a conspiracy, you're taking away the credence from it. Yeah. And then they start making you look crazy. What, are you just taking it to kill a shot? Nah, you ain't pouring out much. You're smoking a load over there? Nah, I can handle it.

You can smoke a lot, man. So please smoke with him. I'm sorry. I stopped smoking last week. You can give me a contact over there. I'm not gonna smoke that. No, I can't. You can smoke that, man. Yeah. So please smoke one of them. Sorry, I stopped smoking last week. You need to get in contact over there. Ooh, yeah, I'm getting one too. I'm mad high already right now. Take one. I'm getting one too.

Yo, shout out to Lux now. We in Lux now right now. Oh, definitely. Shout out to Lux now. Lux now. Oh, you know what? Hold on, hold on. That's a white you.

You want me to do it? Cheers you with a blunt? No, that's a different one. Oh, this one? Different one. Oh, that's a different one. Oh, that's a different one. Oh, that's a different one. Oh, that's a different one. Oh, that's a different one. Lux now But your middle cheers you with a blunt No, that's a different no this one. I'm gonna take it lighter different. I'll give you a lighter. You know, they give it back So quaint bridge who is the next stop

Couple Queens bridge right now the next start to come to Queens bridge come from now It next star to come through Queensbridge. Come through. Coming. Now? It's going to be somebody that don't need our help. Mm-hmm. That's going to be our help. He going to stay by. He going to be like, fuck it. No, he don't have to shit on everybody.

All the young niggas. That's where all the young niggas shit on us. That's where it goes. That's where it falls at. That's what they be like. I don't think that has to happen though. No, I'm just saying, that's the younger people's mentality though. Listen, the other day, I kid you not.

Kid you not. I don't think that has to happen though. I don't think that has to happen though. I don't think that has to happen though. I don't think that has to happen though. I don't think that has to happen though. I don't think that has to happen though. I don't think that has to happen though. No, I'm just saying that's the younger people's mentality though. Like, listen, listen, the other day, I kid you not. Kid you not. These guys was on Facebook. And they're like, yo, who's the illest rapper from left, right?

Right? I mean, come on. We got to, we got to relax on this conversation. Like, right? I don't even mean to brag, right? But come on. But these Like, right? I don't even mean to brag, right? But come on. But these guys, the younger generation, I just went and looked at the conversation because I'm just petty.

So I went, I looked at the conversation and these guys, they actually was picking Final Chapter over it, right? But these guys, you know, they hate me. Right. Sorry, people. All right. They pick it from, they never even had an album. Then they pick a problem,

they ain't never even had an album. They didn't pick it, some people pick it Moose and Maze. Not only they never even had an album. Not Left Frack. Not only they never even had an album. These are my artists. But Moose and Lee is from Left Frack, not Maze. Yes, not Maze.

Right. But this is what I'm trying to tell you, this is how the younger generation is. The younger generation don't want to give a fuck about what came before them. And that's crazy, but at the same token, I remember not giving a fuck

about what came before me as well. Really? I don't know, maybe the DJs are different. As DJs, I always give a fuck. It's not that we didn't give a fuck about who came before us, it's that we didn't want to actually help when we did it on our own thank you that's a very very valid explanation on private jets not even

profit business like yo you know what you know let me let me do represent I didn't think I was gonna get home anyone I spoke to all the people I think I wanted help but did you not want to pay? I always paid homage. Even when I didn't want to, I always paid homage. Okay, well, that's the difference. I always paid homage, you know what I mean? For the people who were before me. Because it's not like we didn't care about Molly Ma. No, I cared.

But, I mean, I cared too, but I wasn't going to go to Molly Ma and be like, yo, give me some help. I'm like, I want to show Molly Ma that I can do it. You understand what I'm saying? So that's how I was thinking Where was I can know you from people that rack? Yes. I mean, come on. That's the ox my man. Let's not do that They all seeing young niggas from for my hood saying who's the illest rapper love I Didn't really care.

But somebody sent me the link, so I launched it. I was like 40%. They gave Soul Sisters it before me. I said, I know I shot his brother. I did some, too.. Like, I did something to him, like you know who the guy is, but the Sola Sisters. You know who K7 is from, Leopard? No, I didn't know that. He was from the Bronx. K7.

Yeah, yeah. One of them, yeah. Google that. I missed K7. So they placed him higher on the chart than you two? I was eating. Come baby, come. What was K7?

What was the other group K7 was in? TK. TK. TK. One of them was Jones. I was eating come baby come That was sorry boy, I'm. I got a lot of history with the left frankies, the most battalion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You was knocking out pitches out there too, man. Oh, Lord. You was knocking them down. Listen, Hap.

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me give you, let me give you, let me give you, let me give you, let me give you, let right? To play their role. And you snitching on yourself but you're not really snitching on yourself. Cause you're doing it in a different way. It's crazy. Instead of your shit being your name Key Wong, your shit is Tom Wong. Instead of havoc, your shit is tragic. And you just talk about all your escapades. I'm telling you, you got a 50 Shades of Black story. I'm telling you, you're a wimp. You're going to a wimp.

You're going to a wimp. You're going to a wimp. Because I know niggas, your niggas used to be on the hill like, yo, you seen what Hal brought through? And niggas was like, what? OK. Man, he on a different level.

He making beats and doing other things. Let's big you up. Let's big Happy Cup like that. That's my man. I saw it. I saw it. He's a great guy. No, no, no, no, no, no.

You're a great guy. I'm not because I don't know if you got a girl now. I'm just so sorry. Because this is back in the day. You're too late with that one. You're way too late with that one. Yeah, yeah, you're horrible with that one. No, I'm saying.

No, you say infamous. This is infamous. Way back. You're too late with that one. You're way too late with that one. Yeah, yeah, you're horrible with that one. Nah, he said infamous. This is infamous, dude. Way back. Nah, it's whatever, cause we ain't know anybody. I just be laughing sometimes when this shit, cause he be exaggerating for y'all, so.

No! How on this one? Nah, on this one, like, come on, LES, you gotta admit that. Come on, LES, you gonna admit that? Nah, I can't admit that. He was, he was. Now you said you can't admit it. No, I said I can't admit it, because I haven't seen it.

Oh, I haven't seen it. Oh yeah, I haven't seen it. Yo, listen, I used to be in a session with Hive. We used to have three in one session. That is a lot. We used to have one at 2 o'clock, and then he was sending one away. There was another one. I was like, dad. No, that's definitely a lie. That's a sound.

That's a sound. I remember the studio. That's a lie. The legal life. Oh, robot. Look at this. Yeah, three different ones, three different sessions. No, I'm coming back.

No, I ain't going to lie. I was very proud of you. Like, at one point, I was like, holy different sessions. No, come on. Nah, I ain't gonna lie. I was very proud of you. Like, at one point, I was like... Holy shit. I was proud of you. And then he keeps going. I'm sorry. You want to change the subject?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But you know what? I just... I just... Because that's one thing. And Pone, too. I'm going to be honest.

Pone... I always felt like Pone should have made a gyro out. That's really who he is. Like, he's really... Like, that day he told me is he was like go look at my socks it matches my collar I've never thought of that in my life I've never thought that people really cared I'm the master back of your collar

I've never thought of that what does that mean white Your socks get back to your collar. I've never thought of that. What does that mean? White? He really matched. I'm Puerto Rican. We don't give a fuck about matching, man. We just put this fuckboard we on and we just go out. We put the knife in one sock. You know what I'm saying?

I put my money in my other sock. I still got my socks tucked in. I'm like old school Puerto Rican. I play handball. I'm playing old school Puerto... I play handball. You know what I'm saying? I'm an old school Puerto Rican. In my heart, I got a tail. You know what I mean? No.

No, I don't. But yeah, so... I'm just telling you. That's a part of... Listen, you and Pong could write the ill sex in the city story. Why are you putting me with somebody else? Why are you putting me with somebody else? I'm sorry. I'm going to tell you the story. Your home could write the ill sex in the city You poem Wesley was like you, Pone, Wesley, Dave Farrow, who was a couple more niggas. Who had the most automated looking guns?

How much more time we got left? Hold up. You looking good. Let's make some noise for Havoc, man. Yeah, man. Now, Noy, what was your favorite session? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, before, now you go.

Anyway, I'm a family man. You want another shot? I'm a family man. I'm a family man. Yeah, me too. Nah, I definitely don't want another shot. Right. Nah, but. Back then you had fun, that was it. It was back then.

No, no, I didn't even have fun back then. They was, you know, drink, uh, Drink Champs. Drink Champs. Yeah, God damn it. Yeah, listen. Yeah, listen. Yeah, listen. Yeah, listen.

Yeah, listen. You'll know him. So what was your favorite album you ever worked on? What was your favorite? Probably Murder Music. Mmm. That's what you had to, didn't you have a movie that was Murder Music? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Murder Music. That's when it was pop bang, man. Right. The music was coming out so dope. So dope. So dope. That's what you had a movie The music was coming out so dope so easy I mean Nobody was doing it. That's the way it felt. No, we all had the mini mansion Long Island they had to crib together living together. It's like we fucking out the hub, but we in a because we

Motherfuckers living on top of each other. You know what I mean? What was your question? Didn't P move along? His favorite album he ever worked on. It was Murder Music. Murder Music. Let me ask you real quick before you get into that. Have you seen the movie?

I did, I did. No, I did, I did. But I was listening to that extra today, Murder Music. And I wanted to ask you, was that when y'all went like got away from samples murder music because it felt like that that album it felt like that but i was i was still sampling i was still sampling at the time okay i just wanted that i was thinking about that that what what was the single which that? That what? What was the single on that? Which one? Which album?

Murder Music. Murder Music was... You had the Nas joint? Murder Music. Quiet Storm. Quiet Storm. The Nas joint. Quiet Storm.

Smiles. Dark Light. So much catalog, man. I could be mixing up so much. Those were samples. We was lucky with that album. It didn't feel like samples though at that point You know the era when the sent you know the samples people stop sampling a lot

So what's the next for LES? Oh? Shoot really I mean if you don't know I've been in Virginia And I'm in Virginia now and you saw the radio as well right on three jams still Right now not because I'm you know me a habit you was on the radio as well, right? On all three jams. You still? Right now, I'm not because, you know, me and Havis are doing a few things. So I stepped away. Yes. But, you know, I made my mark in Virginia. I did all the clubs and all the everything.

Radio station. I had a little mix show. Basically, I brought, like, the clue, the flex. Right. You know, I took a page out of the book and brought that to them. Right. And I heated up the streets with everything that's going on. And then now, you know what I'm saying, back into the production.

You know what I'm saying? Back deep into the production. Full-fledged. Full-fledged. Full-fledged. I'm talking about hip-hop. So I got a book, Server House Tomorrow. Yeah, possessions.

Let's go. That's up here, bro. That's up here. We know what it is, bro. You know, I got two on the joint. You already know the El Jabars and the Oh yeah, oh yeah You know what we story son? When I play that beat and the drums just hit

It just feels good How fast did I write that record? Did you write it? I wrote that shit right I don't even know if you wrote it I don't even think I wrote it, I just think I just reached out No, no, no, I did, I did, I was trying I had, I had, I had Had a piece of it I was trying I had I had I had

Had a piece of it No I had The story in my mind And I just We created the story As we go Right right right Like with the intro

And then when Nas came in That's why That's why At that end You hear Nas Like Cause he came in And the shit was already

Done You know what you Reminded me of right now You produced for Mother Superior Didn't you Yes Oh wow Which is It's a Miami MC That You know what you reminded me of right now? You produced for Mother Superior, didn't you? Yes. Oh, wow.

Which is a Miami MC that, you know, if it would have came out, I think that would have changed the landscape of Miami. I produced a lot of records in the industry. And you produced a little, I think you produced a joint with Karis One on that record, where Karis One's saying, where you at, where you at, Miami's on the map. That's the hook on that record. Oh, he might have did the hooks. Yeah, see, that was, and that's crazy because I did that on some, you know how somebody call you with that brown paper bag money. I just remember seeing your name on the production credits.

And that whole album got shelved by Island. Yeah, Island. And that album, when it came out, it would have changed the whole landscape of Miami hip hop. Yep. God bless him for holding down Miami, god damn it. I mean, don't bless me for that, I'm just... God bless you.

Hey, what's this? Now, what's next for Rappin' North? I got two of the illest producers on the side of me, man. God's the limit, man. You fought to God, fought to God. You know what I mean? So we working together, doing shows, you know what I mean? Right.

Right. Because right now, I'm working on a book. My cousin Mumu just came on, you know what I mean? So, we're trying to make it pop, you know what I mean? God. God. God. God. God. God. God. God. So we working together doing shows, you know what I mean? Because right now I'm working on a book. My cousin Mumu just came on, you know what I mean?

So we're trying to make it pop, you know what I mean? God bless you, brother. What's your all the success? What's next for you? The podcast with Nori. That's right. Let's go. Podcast with Nori.

That's right. And of course earlier what I said Documentaries that I'm going to shoot I'm very interested in that The movie after that I'm going to show you Yeah, yeah, yeah And a biopic

Because it's not too soon He's not telling you about The solo Havoc album He played us a record You know Hav He a little Speak on it Played us a record and oh and he won't eat, you know have You might have to hear some shit Tonight I'm definitely going to

The basement Wait, who's in the basement? Tony Tussman? We going to see Talk Out Okay, so what time is the basement proper? Right now I told you I was like, yo, I'm going to the basement No, we're done here.

We're going straight to the basement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Tony. Hey, Tony. Can I get on the set? Yeah. I got my laptop. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, okay. Now, Tony, what's next for you? The basement. Oh. Now, let's have a real talk. All due respect to the legend, Tony Touch right here. Excellent. Top.

Come on, man. The dude is out. There you go. There you go. Now listen, real talk, all due respect to the legend Tony Touch right here. Absolutely. What a fellow. The top. The legend Tony Touch. Come on, man. There you go. He was out here a couple of days ago.

Me and Yiffen tried to get it together to get here to come to get you. We couldn't quite put it together at that moment. And we want to salute you because we understand that you also, this is your second time coming out here on your own don't think that was ever go unrecognized or unappreciated thank you for having me again you come as many times as you want this is your home I'll never wear my welcome but I do appreciate it

nah nah you know what I want to make that part clear. Tony and LES and Rob Benoit, I want that to be clear. This is a platform that we made for us. By us. We the new FUBU. That's what's up. Y'all clap for me.

Y'all clap for me. We the new motherfucking FUBU, man. You know what I'm saying? And we're going't always represent because our platform is for people that have been in here 10 years or more and sit here and we still smiling.

You know what I'm saying? They don't understand the pressures and the things that we go through, the ups and downs and the backstories of how you have to even maintain that 10 years. And we ain't going to tell them

that part. We're going to tell them the good parts because that's what they need to hear to tell them that part. We're going to tell them the good part because that's what they need to hear to be motivated. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day,

we ain't going to stop this platform. I would rather, like I told you, we had the call with the big people at Vogue and it was wonderful. And then somebody says, yeah, so we're going to interview the new guy.

You cringed? That's dead. I'd rather you fire me. I'll be the new Joe Buttons. dead, dude. I'm proud of you. You fired me. I'll be the new Joe Buttons. Pick up Joe Buttons out there. Big him up. But I'll be the new Joe Buttons out there. If you want me to, you know, interview... And there's no disrespect

to the new people. I'm just saying Drink Champs is important. For our food show, I got new guys. For, you know, other shows I got, I will have new guys. But for this, Drink Champs platform is made for people who deserve. That's right, Tony. Pause.

Pop that out of there, man. This is made for legends. This is made for people who's been here. And, you know, unfortunately, it's only in rap. When you have 10 years or more, people say, oh, you can't do it again. Not in fucking rock and roll. Not in jazz. Not in R&B.

It's only hip hop. We got to stop that fucking badass rumor. So I'm going to lead the way in saying that we get fine with time like wine. Is that right? We get far with time like wine. Let me tell you something. What's great about everybody here at this table is that

they're 20 plus years in the game and we're still going to Russia and Eastern Europe and France. Still getting booked. They're still doing shows all over the planet. I'm not going to lie. I'm not getting booked, I'm still doing shows all over the planet. I'm still going live. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

I don't want to go to a cold place. I've been avoiding the whole witness so far. I think I got to go. I avoided the Grammys. I was like, fuck that shit. I was mad stubborn. Yeah, you was mad stubborn. Did you beat that?

I'm so sorry. You was mad stubborn. I was almost ready to go, but I'm like, all right, whatever, buddy. That was totally me this time. This time I was like, man, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm so sorry. I was almost ready to go, but I'm like, alright, whatever, buddy. That was totally me this time. We out here in this warm weather. Nah, this is the Grammys right now! It's the Hood Grammys! I see the Rob Mason bro,

I'm like, aw, shit, that's what I mean. I said, I played myself. Yeah, I played myself, but Nah, we the the Grammys. I had to be focused. I'm not a Grammy type of guy. Yeah, you are, buddy. No, I'm not like after party Grammy guy.

I'm not like a Grammy guy. I don't even want to go to the Grammys. I got ADD. I can't sit still. I can sit still because I'm smoking. But listen, we're going in the right way. Big up Abbie. big up rapper Noid, big up Tony Tuck, big up DJ Ali, producer Ali.

Yes. Good chance, this is a place we're going. We represent our legends, we love our legends, we love our people, and you know what? And you know what, Tony Koga, you know what we're gonna do, we're gonna take a picture, we're gonna have a drop, we're gonna, to do? We're going to take a picture. We're going to have a drop. We're going to pick up.

Where we at? I forgot where we at again. We at Lux now. Lux now, who showed us the red carpet, the green carpet, and the pink carpet for the rose. I'm going to use the bathroom, and we're going to come back, take a drop, and a picture. Voila. Voila. God damn it.

Voila. Not this one. Not this one. That one. That one. Okay. That away. What up, Dream Champs Army?

EFN here. Just want to remind y'all to pick up merch at drinkchamps.com or 8and9.com. We really appreciate y'all supporting us, whether you watch us on Revolt or listening to us on Audio Boom, whether it be iTunes or Spotify or however you get the audio, or watching us on YouTube or Revolt.TV. We appreciate the Drink Champs Army. But you can also further support us and make sure you rock in the latest in Drink Champs apparel. And check us at drinkchamps.com. Follow us, drinkchamps.com.

You can find the merch there or 8and9.com. And also follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across the board. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. I'm at Who's Crazy on Instagram. At DJ EFN on Twitter and Facebook. And Nori's at The Real Noriega on Instagram. At Noriega on Twitter and on Facebook.

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