Drink Champs - Episode 121 w/ Tony Rock, Ras Kass, Charlie Mack and D-dot Angelettie (Part 2)

Episode Date: March 20, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this part two of two episode the guys talk with Tony Rock, Ras Kass, Charlie Mack and Deric D-Dot Angelettie aka the Madd Rapper. The guys debate ghost writing in hip hop, the difference between MC's and rappers, and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Drink Champs motherfucking Park. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. Motherfucker. Here, there's a site. There's a site saying. No, I'm saying pull up. No, pull it up. No, pull it up.

Wait, close. Maybe Facebook. No, no, no. I'm saying there's lines that I'm saying that you love from him that he didn't write. Hold up. Now, hold up. Hold up, hold up, hold up. He's not saying somebody ghost.

Hold up. No, he's not saying ghost writing. OK, so let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Listen to what he's saying. Right Rapper rapper Producer what's the criteria? Three to six degrees got to be authentically you. Wait, wait, wait. There's rapper and there's MCs. MC! What's the criteria?

MC! What's the criteria for MC? The pin game. The pin game. The pin game. Describe the pin game. The pin game means... Rakim.

Rakim. Rakim is the pros, right? Nas. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, let's see. Scarface. Scarface. Scarface. Scarface. There's our favorite. There's so many I did. No input. How do we know that? Nobody gave you ideas. Nobody gave you ideas. Nobody said, your son used to say this.

No, no, no. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this.

Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this.

Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. I'm able to look at you and guess what I'm painting a painting I'm saying I'm not the most amazing painter because I look at you and I'm inspired by what you got Period I'm saying I still got to do the work I still got to do the work, but I'm saying I'm inspired by what your life is Again that you're able to pin it Even if somebody gave you an idea? No it don't matter

Life is an idea So let me say one thing I used to be in the studio with Dr. Dre 2000 Even if somebody gave an idea? No, it don't matter. I'm saying you got to get it. Life is an idea. In a studio, so let me share one thing. I used to be in a studio with Dr. Dre, 2000. Eminem is just now coming around. No, this is before him. And one day, Dr. Dre said,

you know what's funny about you? He said, I didn't know this about myself. He said, you fucking, all your conversations, and within an hour or two hours we hanging out, you hear a beat, and then you write about

everything that we just talked about. I was like, I didn't even know I do that. He's like, you a ill nigga. Like, you soak up. You absorb it. You absorb it. So of course I do. The environment is funny.

He's got some funny shit. That's what I do. He's got some funny shit, I be like, that's a bar. But everybody, but everybody. That's what I do. Yeah, that's a bar, but everybody Yeah, I call me Kobe's whole get down is Michael Jordan, but he had to do the work Based on what you said. Look at me. All the lyricists we know. I'm talking about super lyricists we know. Jesus, Michael.

From yourself to whoever you consider, because everybody's top ten is different. What I'm asking is, if you can literally tell me that you can create a criteria. You can't get something from nothing. Huh? This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. If you could create a criteria that all of these guys would be able to fit into and then you can judge them from that so for example I don't know

who your top five is I don't know where by South by the way I mean I say 20 I'm saying I'm saying you gotta tell me why because You're gonna have a top five, you got a top 20. Right. I can't have five because some of these is big. But see, that's my point. That's my point. I'm just throwing 20 on the table. I know, I'll tell you why. Because. No, Terry, you're throwing 20 grabbers on the table. You're throwing them one through 20.

Oh, no, I won't. No, that won't be in any order. In order. In order. I can't. I can't. I can't. I'm saying.

I can't have one. I'm saying. Let's do that. If the criteria is three things. Let's just do three things. Lyrics, originality, delivery. The stage presence. Yeah, the delivery on stage.

Because MC. Delivery means a lot. Absolutely not. What's the criteria? Mark Kim is the most boring rapper, and that's my man to death. But we, come on. Come on. He's boring.

He's not boring to me. He's boring. What's your criteria? He's not boring. He's not boring to you? What's your criteria? I'm not boring. I'm not boring.

When he listens to him, you see it. When you see it. When he grabs the mic and I'm like, that's your criteria? I'm telling you why you're not born. Nobody's talking about why you're not born. Because I'm saying, when he listens to him, you see it. You see it. When he grabs the mic and I'm like, I'm saying to you, this is my man. Rakim is my man to death. But he never took the time to create a stage show. A stage show. No, I'm saying how do you forget that? Now we got to get performance, stage show, break that fence off your mind.

That's what I'm saying. That's the half of my time. I'm saying, stay here. I'm. Break that defense off your mind. That's what I'm saying. That's the act right there. Stay safe. Stay safe. I'm saying it right there. Put on the still. Now you say, oh, but he don't have to put on the still. He got it.

He can do it. This ain't Caputo who said it was the boys. Caputo got the boys, bro. Three of the boys, stick it on the stage. He got the boys. If you wanna go great, you gotta get in the hair room. Right. Exactly.

Yeah, we made a mistake. No, wait, wait, wait. I think if we accomplish anything, we've actually accomplished nothing. Art is subjective. Exactly. I said what's the criteria? What's the criteria? We cannot because each person has their own criteria. Okay, let's do this. Let's do this.

Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Lyrically, go. Who, what? Lyrically, just one criteria, lyrically. I don't understand what you're saying. Who's the best lyricist?

Go. Oh, mine's really dope, period. For me? Yeah. It's Jay-Z. Good, Hal. That's nice. KS-1. For me, it was Big L.

Nice. You saw Tom. Tom? Somebody's moaning. I hear moaning and all that. How you moaning? I'm going to say, uh, I'm going to say nice. So, now, that's to be nice.

It's all subjective. It's about where you are in your life. You don't mean for me Let me say something and I apologize and I love you guys everybody. I loved every speech you guys but spoke about It's the super but Right, it's like I could never live your life. Do that. Meaning I could never produce. I could see music. I could hear it. But I could never press.

I could never press a button. But I ain't producing. What I'm saying, you know what I'm trying to say. I can hear comedy. I got you. I can see it. But I could never actually perform. Richard Pryor got rocked. I can see how, but I can never actually perform Richard You know what I mean? You know what I mean? He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best.

He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best.

He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best.

He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. He's the best. I Isolated to I'm some of real That is a fact. That is a fact. Okay, wait, wait, wait. He wanted to be Will Smith. He just said, we don't consider Will Smith real in hip hop. No, he didn't say that. He didn't say that. No, no, he said he wanted to be commercial, right? He wanted to go that route. How do we think about that?

How do we think about that? He wanted to be commercial, but he's shouting at you. How do we think about that? How do we think about Will Smith? Yeah. But me, I still want you, Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith.

I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith. I don't know what you think about Will Smith? The hood. How did the hood think about Will Smith? I didn't even know who he was. I didn't even know who he was. I didn't even know who he was.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Some people did. Some people did. Eminem, Eminem, Eminem. Eminem, Eminem. Eminem, Eminem. Eminem, okay. Eminem, I'm telling you this. Eminem, Eminem, Eminem. Eminem said the only reason why he rapped was because of Will.

Eminem told me and Jeff and Will to his face the only reason why he even rapped was because of Will. That's period. No, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm not saying that. But that's how he realized that you don't have to be from the fucking hood to be able to do this. This is a hard fall. But he was from the hood.

Being from the hood. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I just wanted to say this sir this is an analogy I'm gonna give you d.3 so if we're going to a basketball game and I'm I shoot and it's called air Jordan right if you go to basketball game you buy a single gun right so really I just kind of nothing I'm just trying to. Because you guys, you go to the basketball game, you just buy your shoes. So I wanted to, I'm Michael Jordan. I buy these Jordans. But if Jordan was on the court and then a little nigga from Tokyo jumped out his back and did all the dunks, I don't want the Jordans no more.

That's what rap is. Right. If I find out there's seven little niggas copping out of your back. If you find out. If you find out. No seven little niggas copping out of your back, if you find out, if you find out, it's the key. No, you know what? Where is he? Where is he? If you find out, it's the key word.

If you find out, it's the key word. You know who you should have on hand, Normie? Sauce money. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, All this talk now. Let me say something. Shut all this shit down. Don't we know right now? We showing our age. No. Listen, listen. In the age that we are, if we heard a nigga didn't really write the lyrics he wrote, we would be fucking blown away.

If we heard LL didn't write it, listen. Listen. Not, not, not, not, not. away that you really respected in our age... Oh, now you got a real respecter back. In our age! Now you got a real respecter! Now you got a big article! Now you got a real respecter! Let me get this.

Let me get this, guys. In our age, you can call the trainers. In our age! Son, son, son, son, son, son, son! Son, let me get this. Miracle Sessions. Son, let me get this. Listen, Tony Talk. In our age, in our age, if we heard a nigga didn't really write what he wrote, what he said, I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person.

I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person.

I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person.

I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. I'm a different person. We are different age! We are different age! You're right, you're right, let me tell you why. The first time we ever heard about somebody not writing was, I'm saying really on a national level, was Drake. Everybody was stunned. That's not the truth! That's far from the truth! If you ask Javier for a movie, he wrote everything for his partner!

He wrote everything for his partner! But nobody's arguing! But nobody's arguing! Nobody's arguing! But nobody's arguing! Nigga! Stop! Nobody's arguing that Jalil was the greatest rapper of all time! You said Jalil and Houdini! Nobody's arguing that he...

But he's still panked out! But nobody's arguing that he's the greatest rapper! The theme work! Who the fuck is Houdini? Houdini wasn't a great group? Nobody's on you Since Because of the taste of washes but The greatest of all time. The first country that we loved. Actually, no, you're correct. Let me tell you why. Because I'm going to tell you something. Watch this. Kaz wrote Big Bad Hank's lyrics on Rap Deluxe. But nobody's arguing that he was the greatest of all time.

Who, Grandmaster Kaz? Yeah. Yeah. And he's that guy. Who's that guy? Who's that guy? Who's that guy? He's not the greatest, but he's in my top 20.

He's in my top 20. Who has the confidence? He's in my top 20. He's the logo of why we do this. Who came up here? Who came up here? Well, DMC changed his name. But nobody said his name just now.

No, we didn't say a lot of people's names just now! DMC from Run DMC changed his name to DMC because of GMC. GMC is the logo for every rapper. He still looks like this to this day. And so can go. LL Will Smith, K-Rez, Rockin', Big Daddy Kane, Cool G Rap, if you ask, and Kool Moe D. Yes. Grandmaster Kaz. You're not going to do this with, if you ask, and Kool Moe D. Yeah. Grandmaster Cash. Cash, all right.

You're not going to do this with D-Dot or the Northern Show. You didn't say his name just now. I'm going to be your head. You had to clap for the side change and say it. I am Brooklyn Hitman. You are the best. This is the one. Nigga, I'm from around the corner from you, nigga.

I know, nigga. I'm from around the corner. I'm from Bay Ridge, Ralph and Howe, and Finn and Morty. The K to Howard in Minnesota! The nigga with the high school and my brother Andre! Listen, listen, listen. Hip-hop is very married. Hip-hop is very married. And all these rules these niggas apply to hip-hop don't apply. No. I'm saying...

Because I'm saying every era, every era, had Western rules! Every era had Western rules! This is why this is the greatest talk shop argument ever. Because there are no rules and there's no criteria, and there's never going to be a fight. I think in terms of the lyrics, you have to pin your rap. Everything else is questionable. Everything else is relative, like you said. Again, lyrics, lyrics, lyrics, lyrics, you gotta write. To have a claim to be one of the greatest, if you don't write it, you gotta do that, though.

You gotta be one of the top five. Do you agree? Huh? You agree in terms of top five lyricists? Lyricists. I give a fuck. I know I'm a top great hustler. No, I said no.

Have I rolled my shit? Absolutely. No, no, I said no. I said, do you agree in terms of the criteria for the top five lyricists? For a great, yeah. For a lyricist, yeah. Yeah, you have to write. You agree? You have to. You agree? I said I said do you agree in terms of the criteria for the top four? You agree He might be in your top five. It may be. Absolutely.

Okay, so then that's my point. If you're gonna take the top five lyricists... But you said... No, no, we're not saying who. Now that's subjective. No, we're not saying who. Because we're saying... We're not saying who.

We're not saying who. Listen to what I'm saying to you. I'm saying to you. Eminem is one of the illest motherfuckers in the world to me. Yeah, he might top three. He might top three. All right, cool. But there are motherfuckers that probably can skate all over Eminem lyrically.

But their records, their career might not have gone. So we might not even put them in the lyrical category because of everything else. But that's a given, we know that. So they're my brothers, how could you just do lyrics? Narcissism. How could you do that? That's like saying a nigga's great, but all he had was a three. He's a great three point shooter. He's a great three point shooter,, but he's not a great player?

No, he's great. He's a great three-point shooter, like Steph Curry. Steph Curry's gonna move down to the greatest player. The commonality of hip-hop is the imagination of two things, the production and the MC. All I'm talking about, I never said who had the hottest record.

I never said who got the most bitches, who made the most money. Who got the most Instagram followers. I said who sat down and pin their and then the other things are other factors that actually relate to why i like i helped em in his career bro before dre met him and i told jay-z about help you use the word help loosely what does that mean it doesn't matter because that's a whole different story right now. I can tell that story later. I'm talking about myself. My point is, I knew a nigga in Detroit.

I knew a white nigga in Detroit. I think a bad rapper came here. I understand where you're coming from. But my point is, the only thing we're talking about is fundamental lyrics. Right. So I understood that Ice Cube was dope. I love Dr. Dre. I love Easy E. Easy E didn't write. Ice Cube was dope. I love Dr. Dre. I love Easy E.

Easy E didn't write. Ice Cube was a West Coast lyricist for me. Because he was talking that hood LA shit. G-Rap was talking it a Queens way. And I fucked with it. But New York thugs and gangsters are fucking Italian. We had Crips and Bloods in Mexico. Dr. Dre is great.

We can sing Dr. J the greatest, right? You could probably stay for a fact. Ain't fine with the new every beat. You heard his name right. I'm the worst of it. DJ's making it. So what are we saying? What are we saying?

What are we saying? So to be a great producer, you had to do the drums. You had to post the post. But now if you get into some of that, it's the same concept. If you get help, you get help. Because we check. If you get help, you get help. Help is help. What the fuck is help? I asked you to explain help. I've explained help. Assistance. Something you didn't do. That's help. Something you didn't do. Assistance. Add-ons. Ad-libs. Things that you don't contribute, that is called help. And if you have a project that comes out and there's any inkling of that help, are you still the greatest?

No, our lyricists. The same concept. Oh, stop. To be continued on Drink Champs. Wait, wait, wait. Angry. Wait, wait, wait. One question.

We're in a raffle. I'm not asking. One question. I'm angry. One question. I'm angry. Yeah. So you're saying any help across the board,

lyrically, as a rapper, producer. So you're saying any help across the board, lyrically, as a rapper, as a producer, you're invalid? No, y'all are saying you're invalid. I'm asking you. I'm asking you. You're fully valid. I'm asking you.

You're fully valid. I'm asking you. You're fully valid. OK, I'm asking you. You're fully valid. I got stories with my own drink champs that I'm going to taste some of the greatest mentions that I've had help. This was an announcement.

Tell us, wait, wait. Tell us, I won't be here for the next one. Tell us a song Biggie had help on. Boom. D.Angioletti. Let it go nigga. Ain't that right boo? Let it go.

I just wrote true. But that's not right. That is righty. That is righty. That is right writing because he needed to put something in there I gave you that on a small level Because we go I'm cutting on gym channel. I want to say this But have you all point is I use that as example that I was in the room so I contributed Yeah, so imagine people that's really let me finish so imagine people that were in there longer

right with him that are more confidential with a meeting that can keep more things under wraps you don't sir. I need you to, sir. Want my Biggie story? Listen, here's my Biggie story. I got arrested downtown Brooklyn one time. I ain't going to tell you why I did. And they had me chained to the motherfucking bench in the fucking precinct.

Was there a check? And I heard a commotion going on outside. And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? And he was bringing Biggie in this motherfucker. And I was chained to the fucking bench. And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? And he was bringing Biggie in this motherfucker. And I was chained to the fucking bench, and I'm like, oh shit, that's Biggie Smalls. And when I got situated and got out, I was walking out and people was like,

yo, did you see Biggie in there? And I was like, yeah, he in there. And they locked the fuck up. But I'm going home. That was my Biggie story. That was my little Biggie. No assistance. No assistance. No fucking production. My little Biggie. No assistants. No assistants.

No fucking production. You should have gave it to me, so I could put it in the wrap. What's your Biggie story? What's your Biggie story? I'll probably go that way. Introduce me as the man. Jolly Mike, what's your Biggie story?

Jolly Mike, your Biggie story. Keep it going, it's amazing. What's your Biggie story, Jolly Mike? What's your Biggie story? I did every show Biggie did in Philly. Every show. Yeah, absolutely. Every show. Yeah, absolutely. Every show. The last video that you see from him, we got the soccer jersey on it from my show in Philadelphia.

So every show he did in Philly, I did. I can talk to that because I was dead. Period. Salute. Period. What's your biggest story? My biggest story is I was dead. Matter of fact, I did Pac's last show in Philly as well.

Oh. Yeah. What's your biggest story? What's your biggestgie story? Once the column was out, Flavor In Your Ear, my first record is out. I gotta do a show, I'm opening up for Biggie, but he's double booked. So the nigga cuts me, does the show, murders it, and then walks out like, kill that shit, bruh. I'm like, I can't come out there i'm like yeah what's your big story what's your big story

oh i got 15 million big stories but this is the best biggie story i could ever tell you was one day it's the puerto rican day parade oh it's i already like this story and and um big he actually thought he was Puerto Rican I don't know why he's like looking in the mirror

like I you know I don't know if y'all know it was a famous weed spot called Branson at the time

every fucking rapper in the world Would go to Branson I remember in the raps So I stood there And Biggie

He came to Branson But here's the funny part About it That's not even the funny part That Biggie came to Branson It was Bobby Brown And Bobby Brown pulled up and when bobby brown pulled up i was like oh this is the boy we don't have enough weed no this is the most

racist i've ever felt in my life like ever felt in my life he looked at me and immediately he's like aren't you spanish i said yeah he said what what is cocaine? I said, what the fuck? Tell me that's his story. I love it. This is why Biggie's the greatest. Because I said, everybody tell me the Biggie story. Everybody got a fucking story. It don't have to do with somebody helping them write it or producing it. It's that nigga.

He got iconic stories to go around. West Coast, fucking Philly, New York, Queens. That's why. That's why. Because it resonates with the world. you know what I'm saying? And that don't have nobody, nobody wrote it, nobody produced it, it resonates with everybody. Premier gave me the other Biggie story.

Hold on, he just made me realize the other Biggie story. Yeah. All right, what happened was, we had did a record called T.O.N.Y. Now Shane, what you talking about? Come on, come on. Come on, of course, come on. Now you tell us like you didn't hear that shit? was we had did a record called T.O.N.Y. Nasheed. Yeah, Tony. Come on. You didn't hear that shit?

No, no. I'm trying to tell you it's prior to it coming out. I used to Prior to it coming out this was a hitman production. Yeah. So Big

Nasheed. Nasheed. I don't want to cry. This is like when you look at Big's last people that he called in that interview

or that that movie and he looks at people and he goes yo I gotta call people these last people and Big called me wow bro

and he said yo I want to get on this record I'm gonna do a remix of T.L.M. Walk right mind you my rap wasn't out at the time right so when big called me I was like how the fuck you heard this what

that's how was like damn, this thing got my bootleg. Son of a bitch. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? This might not have felt like a just story. You know my brother had a show on HBO, the Chris Rock show on HBO.

Yep. It was the season finale. He said, yo, who y'all want on the season finale? Who you want to perform on the season finale? I said, yo, you got to get Biggie. You got to get Biggie. Yes. So he calls people. Biggie said, yo, I'll do the season finale,

but I can't do it this week. I gotta go to LA for the Soul Train Awards. Strip of Brooklyn. He said, I gotta go to LA for the Soul Train Awards. I'll do it after that. Never came back. Never came back. It's a place of the unknown.

Yeah, we got it, we got it. came back never came back yeah let me just tell you something I want to thank you Charlie Mack and one thing Tony Robb and one thing Rask as I want to think all d-dot cause this platform is this platform is for people to be argumentative because it's no way, shape, form, or fashion. I should ever agree with you in any way, shape, form, or fashion. If this is how you feel, and that's how I feel, that's how he feel, and that's how he feel,

we should always feel that way. The thing about it is I was so happy of your opinions of the 90s. Like, you have a total different opinion from everybody here. He's an architect of the 90s.

So, this is crazy. You're an architect of the 90s. So, before we get up out of here, you're telling us. Because this is what I want to be clear about. Be clear. Crystal. I don't want to ask this question, by the way. Please do.

Please do. Are you saying Big High help? I didn't say Big High help. I'm glad. But I'm saying Big High help. I'm saying Jay had help. I'm saying Jay had help. I'm saying grandmaster this person. I'm saying these guys had help okay This is mine. This is mine. This is mine. This is mine. This is mine. This is mine.

This is mine. So this is what I'm gonna start. They ain't do that to me. Once you say, yeah, I get it. Right? I get it, right? But there's different types of help. Yes.

Right? There is a help where you say, OK, I'm going to help you put in the truffle in the truffle thing. That's it. No. No. That doesn't necessarily means I made the truffle and the truffle thing doesn't necessarily means I made the truffle dish. Or I'm going to take the bags out of the car. Oh, I'm going to take the bags out of the car.

If I'm making scrambled eggs and I say pass me the black pepper, the black pepper. That's help? That's help? Look, look at these daffodils. But you know what, I said one thing. His face didn't really crack. I was in that system. He's got another word.

So what he said was some rappers stole. His face didn't crack. So he said some of your greatest handwriters stole blah blah blah. So I know this. I'm a dancer but not a rapper. So hold up. Why do we not ask this question? Why do we not ask this question?

As a rapper, as a rapper, did you have help? Did you have help? Or did you have assistance? Were you inspired by? Or were you... Or none of your above! You and you! You and you! You know me? I've always had, because I got a producer. You always had what? I had a producer, so he helped me with a beat.

Nigga, I don't know if your niggas know right from me. I'm a cunt. Nobody ever wrote nothing for me ever Nigga it's great for me I'm an elder I need you You had a sister? It's great for me Hooks, hooks, hooks

Hooks, hooks I've had to think I was signed to a major label Think about this We were signed to a major label So somebody wrote hooks for you No Tony, let me finish bro This is not easy

I'm just saying So think about this You can do a record and your company says you gotta fix some of the lines No, Tony, let me finish, bro. I'm not easy. I'm just saying. So think about this. You do a record, and your company says you got to fix some of the lines. So you add assistants. Because they're not going to promote the record if you keep saying, I'm going to kill this bitch in the third bar. I got to change the line.

I got assistants. Now, I might change it. They didn't rewrite it, but they told me I had to rewrite it. So you always are getting work. Wait, wait, wait. Let me know what you want. Help, assistants, or none of the above? None of the above. Me, personally. I had to rewrite it so you always are getting work Help assistance or none of the above me personally Everybody has assistants. Right. So everybody has assistants. Right. Yeah. He didn't write the lyrics though. Right. He didn't write the lyrics. He didn't write the lyrics though.

But at the same token, I understand what D-Dot is coming for. Because the thing about it is sometimes it comes a time to make a hit record. And it's like, yo, you don't use it. You got to do what you got to do to get that hit. No, it's not in the dots. No.

If somebody come with it for real or Dre Or whoever the fuck it is comes with this record It's a matter of semantics. Collaborations, help, assistance. It's a matter of... What I'm saying to you, nobody writes your raps. You're one of 17 million of us that have made a tempered thing of ours called hip-hop.

So the ones that have had help are the ones we are talking about. And specifically the ones that have had help happen to be in some of our top 20s. In top 20s. And what I'm saying to y'all, and what I'm saying to y'all is, some things we know are factual,

some things we don't. What I'm saying is, everybody's top whatever is subjective because you can't have a rule on it because my top five producers, for me, have all collaborated. And that means that what? What does that mean? rule on it because my top five producers for me have all collaborated. Wow. But that's, I think, I think.

And that means that, what does that mean? So Kanye, for example, went on a rampage, I ghost produced the D-Dot. Ghost produced. You heard that word? No, I heard him say that. You heard that, say that. Okay, cool. Meanwhile, his name is on the record.

He got all his money. He got all his money. Right. Right, boom. But his term is, it's not a ghost you're not a ghost you collaborated right you're comfortable so what i'm saying to you is right so if he just dropped off the beat and went back to chicago and you heard a full song what the did i do the full you ain't got away with it what you. So name the records. Was it The Benjamins? Was it Hypnotize? Was it Money Pop? Was it My Hits?

Because your name was in all notes and you didn't go out. You never heard him say, I don't want him to do The Benjamins. No, you know what? And I can admit to you right here. Of course Kanye co-produced with me. But he dropped off a beat. Is that a full song? If we could all put out beat albums, I'd have Angel Lady Island somewhere. I'd have Angel Lady Island be sitting on the. I have an angel in the eye with someone. Somebody gotta finish the job. So when you say true, is that cold writing the song?

That is absolutely true. Do you say it? Do you say it? Do you say it? That's writing. I just wrote something. You say it. That's called an English word that gets said. If you would have said true in a joke on stage, You say it, you say it. That's writing. I just wrote something you're saying. That's called an English word that gets said. If you would have said true in a joke on stage, then you would have said I wrote true. Before you said all that, you said semantics.

Before you said all that, you said semantics. True was an English word that you repeated. But before all that, you said it's semantics. It is semantics. Meaning semantics y'all were using help, assistance, or collaboration. Y'all were just trying to use another word for saying somebody did something else to help. There's a difference in, again, writing, I'm saying as far as lyricists. Lyricists, the criteria for lyricists to me is writing a song. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing

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but but you're assuming or you know you? I know Rakim. Okay. Totally. I wouldn't doubt that because I love Rakim to death. Even the shit I just said about him was a brother talking to another brother even back then saying, yo, these other guys are putting on better shows. It wasn't a disrespect to Rakim. My point to you is, assistance is assistance. Y'all can dance around the words and all this other shit. If you can help and everything that you do is not from you, then you got help.

I'm isolated to the lyricist. That's it. Everything else I'm saying is subjective, so I'll hear it again. That's all I'm saying. And I know some of the illest lyricists that we will never talk about in our top five because of their other parts of their career

that you look at them or who they are, but lyrically, I'm sure there are people that's greater than Big, greater than Jay-Z, greater than Eminem, greater than KRS- That's black people in general, so I think it's better than Jordan in jail right now. Black thought might be something that's better than Jordan in jail right now general. So they get better than Jordan in jail right now. Black thought might be something because illest rapper right now.

Big pun gets arguably talks about being, who knows who's the greatest? Who knows? Because we can't put a category on it. Because if we did, half of the rappers we love wouldn't be able to fit because they didn't fit the criteria.

It's the unanswerable question. That's why when you go on a barbershop and ask this question, you will be there all day. That's the point of this conversation though. That's the unanswerable question. That's why when you go into a bar with somebody, they ask you a question. You can be there all day. That's the point of this conversation, though. That's the point of this conversation is, I could care less. Like, you know, let me, you can think whatever,

who you want to think. You can think who you want to think. You can think who you want to think. But the thing about it is, it's just hip hop. As long as we continue to love hip hop, that's the beauty. Because the fact that we sitting here all here is hip hop. The fact that we sitting here all here is hip hop. That's not true.

I don't believe that. That's what some people are saying. I don't believe that. No, he might not say that. But that's how he feel like. That's what happened with me. Is that not what me saying about Drake? That Drake is not hip hop because he didn't write his shit?

No, no, no. Tell me about it me, tell me, tell me, tell me. D-Lock, I 100% agree with you. You do? I 100% because that was Meek's problem. Was he felt like that Drake didn't... Belong? Yeah, it did. It was softer, it was a different version.

No, that's not what I'm saying. He finally, he finally was on a move. yeah it was a different version no I'm like you're having fun I really finally just really got some wonderful brother no longer official as me no one else understand right and I'll save you is that right mother it was a mistake the fact that we sit here arguing so passionately about what we believe in hip-hop hip-hop is speaks to the greatness of hip-hop Acted for that that was actually and that's because that was that was a sometimes Oh geez, I'm saying this to the youth on would make it preachy, but we here for a reason Yeah, and sometimes when you look to be the boss with no you know all bosses were workers all generals were soldiers

that's why if you understand that you so we have a general next to you you're trying to overstep the general you haven't even became a corporal yeah but it's your own you know that's what the mistakes are we we all teach them this is what I'm saying right now. My point is, but they have to want to be taught. No, no, no, no. Because when you were 16, you didn't even want to hear what an OG was saying to you. So you got to force the truth on them.

You know what I'm saying? Today's young boys. They hard-headed and don't know what the fuck they know. I'm saying today's young boys. For me, I'm saying I only wanted to listen to old heads. Yeah. That's all I wanted to listen to was old heads. I didn't want to listen to nobody.

I'm an OG product. I can name 65 yo's that I rock with right now. That's like, these are the dudes. I look for them dudes. One, because my father was in the wind at a very young age. But that's also a reason. But you got to teach by example. No, this is my point.

Meek had a general in his midst. And through whatever God had planned is separated And then you can see the results of sometimes where you've are not guided. That's all I'm saying you can see it's written It's written in stone. You don't have to say it's written in stone So what we're saying is sometimes reach back to the OGs not all of us are snakes not all of us want what you have They gotta see it. That's what makes a nurse. They gotta see it. That's what makes a fucking G. That's what makes a nurse. But you today, but you today gotta see it.

You gotta hold shit under they nose so they know it's thing. That's for you today. Okay. It is a different way, it's a different way. However we got it delivered. We gotta deliver it. We gotta see OG and be like,

yo, he get, maybe he's fly, he's whatever. I'm gonna buy him, I'm gonna fucking follow his lead. Okay, boom. That's what makes a nurse follow his lead. Okay, boom You say what I never pay us a minute sit ball on the ground We got a job I didn't doubt that. I'm just throwing it out there. I didn't doubt that. I'm saying I won a lot of money too. I'm saying I'm saying. You know, you know. On camera, let's be focused. I know we all started to stay focused on the fact that we did win that Super Bowl.

You know what I mean? And you know this is my idea. We brought it over to Jerome too. We brought it over to Jerome. We brought it over to Jerome. Yes sir. He had to make that horseshit though. What was that about?

Yeah, he was out there. Damn. Yeah, that was some other Brown. I ain't gonna put him off the job. Yes, sir. They didn't intimidate that horse shit, though. What was that about? Yeah, he was out there. Damn. Yeah, there was some other stuff. That was his name. That was his name. I don't know him.

It was a dude in Philly. Yeah. They greased the pole. The nigga still climbed the pole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was out there. And then the nigga ate horse shit. Yeah, he did.

Yeah, he was out there. I don't know who he was. Well, obviously, he wasn't from the other side. Yeah, I don't know who he was. But I know one thing I'm saying. We did... They said, you won a Super Bowl, won a Hell freeze over. In the Minneapolis, Hell froze over. So Tony Rock, gotta ask you. Yes sir.

You and Russell Simmons is very thick clasped. Oh yeah. Oh man. Oh man. Let me say this. This is what we're taking from there. Can I take it from there? His dick is everywhere.

Can I take it from there? This is the way it feels. Yo, this is the reality of it. This is the real shit. This is what we're taking from there. Can I take it from there? Can I take it from there? His dick is everywhere. Can I take it from there? This is the way it feels. Yo, this is the reality of it. This is the real shit. This is 2018. In the last five years, Russell Simmons has been the most influential person

in my career, more so than anybody else. This is a fact. That's true. This is a fact. That's true. This ain't no accusational shit or no speculatory shit.

Russell has been more influential in my career in the last five years than anybody. Now, let me get this straight. So, for the listeners, rape, horrible. Rape is the worst thing ever. To take something from a woman or a man that didn't want, it's the worst shit ever. Sexual assault is the worst shit ever. To have to live in a secrecy of what you went through and not tell anybody and not feel like you come out. Worst shit ever. Sexual

aggression is a new term that I just was made aware of. Horrible. Isn't that just flirt now? Yeah, it's a new term. It's sexual aggression. If you send a drink to a girl, listen, 45% of women, I did the research, 45% of women in America think if you send a drink to a girl

in a club, it's considered sexual aggression. Sexual aggression. If you compliment a woman on something physical 45% of women in America think it's sexual aggression. So you gotta watch what you're doing, what you're saying. Well, tell him, tell him to stop. But with that said, with that said, Russell's been the most influential person in my career in the last five years

than anybody. He was the nigga that fought for me to host all-death comedy. He was the one that fought for me to get movies and TV auditions

and meetings. That's real. Let me hold something. I'm never going to back him off that. I've heard. But like I said, rape, horrible.

Sexual assault, horrible. Sexual mis rape, horrible, sexual assault, horrible, sexual misconduct, horrible. My heart goes out to all those women. Yes, sir. If he's guilty, that's fucked up.

But in the court of public opinion, people have already convicted him. Right. There's the court of public opinion and there's the real actual court. Let's wait to see what happens in the actual court. Because when he's cleared up, or when and actual court. Because when he's cleared up,

or when and if, when and if he's cleared up, that's the worst thing in the world to be convicted of something like that and be innocent. It's the worst thing in the world. But like you said, the court of public opinion.

Public opinion is rough with it. He can get found not guilty of all sorts of things. Public opinion already cast a verdict. Public opinion already cast a verdict weeks ago. But how about Bill Cosby? Because it feel like Bill Cosby- Bill Cosby ain't do nothing for my career. He ain't-

He didn't actually make no phone calls. He did, actually did. He made some good videos on stage. He made some good videos on stage and speaking freely. Yes, that's true. But I mean, as far as what Russell did. No, he didn't. I think Bill Cosby was giving somebody something.

I'm saying as far not what Russell did directly. But yeah, he was definitely giving somebody like pills or something. I'm just throwing it out there. No, no, no, no, listen. One of my mentors in this business, he went to law school and Bill Cosby paid for his law school. And he got a bill from Bill Cosby. No, Bill Cosby paid for his law school. And he got a bill from Bill Cosby. He got a bill from Bill Cosby. No, Bill Cosby.

Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby. Come on, man. Bill Cosby. I'm just saying something. The reason why I don't have love for Bill Cosby, Bill Cosby, is because he never showed

love to hip hop. He didn't like it. He didn't like it. He made Fred Howard. That's love to hip hop. No, he didn't like it, son. It is. It is. It is.

In his mind- This dude, this is it. Watch this. Did you know he's actually from Richard Allen Project? No, we know that. In North Philly. And guess what? And you know what he said?

Guess what? That Temple University is in North Philly. No, and you know what? We'll 100% respect North Philly. We'll 100% respect that. But when that man said that you know you guys gotta take you please again I'm saying the whole head school to tell you something you know it's great

right so I'm saying again I'm saying the culture of having a pair of sagging was a penitentiary culture right that's true I'm saying one culture of having your pants sagging was a penitentiary culture, right? That's true. Watch this. I'm saying 100% So I'm saying again, if he's pulling your coat for it, don't be upset about it. Yeah, but it's a difference. It's a difference. Plus, all heads here are saying, I'm exactly the same person as you. Right, yeah. I came from where you came from. Just do it. All heads speak from their level of understanding.

You know what I'm saying? The baggy jeans and the two Timbs and the fucking oversized pants. O-heads speak from what they comprehend. I went to your brother's show, right? And you know who invited me to your brother's show? Who? It was Jay-Z. Okay.

Jay-Z hit me and said, I mean, I don't know why I put the voice like that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Jay-z hit me and said I mean, I don't know why I put the voice like that Jay-z's voice like that. I'm so sorry apologize. It's not what I meant to do. Alright? You're going to the other one. Come on. You got to cover it up. Just cover it up. Just cover it up. Just cover it up. Just cover it up.

Yeah, because you need to distract him. It's like you got pussy out. Just out. Just say hello to him. Just say hello to him. Hello. It's just pussy for no reason. Hold on.

Hey, how you doing? No, no, no. There's a reason. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it again, say it again. Say it again. Say it again. Wait, hold up, she said it, say it again. There's always reason for pussy.

Oh, no, there's always reason. Not for me. Not right now, today, this world right now. Not right now, this world today. I'm gonna tell you something, right now. This is not a reason to have questions. So you're the type to get one of those dolls? So you're the type to get one of those dolls? No, no, no. That's where we're going right now.

You're just saying it's sexual aggression. So what about looking for no reason to find it out? That's my point. That's my point. Yeah, you can't look. That's my point. You're a bad guy and you're looking for it. And it's there.

Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable? Actually, in terms of where the world is at right now, you would be comfortable. Hold up. Are you comfortable right now? I'm a thousand percent comfortable. You feel secure and safe? But, Lori, right now?

Right now? I'm checking. You didn't apologize. But if you're going to bite your student, you're going to bite your student. I'm not going to bite my student. I'm not going to bite my student. I up, are you comfortable right now? I'm a thousand percent comfortable. You feel secure or something? But Lori, but Lori, right now, right now, I'm checking if you didn't, hold up, but if you didn't get a bite from this,

she's actually violating you. She's kind of violating me, I'm just talking about that. You're a married man. I'm a man, man. She got close to the right just a second. Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. She's kind of violating you. Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote?

Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Y'all want to vote? Charlie Mack, I want you Charlie Mack. Charlie Mack, I want you Charlie Mack. Charlie Mack, I want you Charlie Mack. The thing about you kept saying, I'm a married man. I'm a married man. I kept saying that. No, I don't want to move. I want Charlie Mack in here. Please Charlie Mack.

So do you feel the same way about a woman who breastfeeds? What the? Yeah, I feel like she violated me too as well. She's trying to show some skin here. No, no, no. What I'm me too as well. She's right though. She's showing skin here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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I'm saying right now, when the world's at right now, when the world's at right now, that's inappropriate time. That's inappropriate time. I wanna throw this out there. He's like, please, bro. What are you talking about?

Y'all niggas sound like you're gonna throw it. No, really. I'm here sad because the first thing you see is a woman. The first thing you see is a woman. That's the first thing you see. It's inappropriate. Who was inappropriate? I can't believe that.

It's inappropriate. She's getting a look at the other person's thigh. It is though, because it is. Is that good? It is. Let me tell you why it is. Let me tell you why it is, because guess what? If the guy was following the walk down the angle seat, it made me, I'm saying again, when she walked away,

everybody went this way. Nobody went up here. Nobody. Right? That's what it is right so again I'm saying that right you say that microaggression shit when you can't buy a woman a drink you're being rude I'm just sexually right so what I was saying was I flipped it because he was like second time he was like yo it's a lot of pussy for no reason Like a dude! Like a dude! That's a great point! That's a great point! That's a great point that Tone made, right? Tone just said that she's comfortable around him, he's comfortable around her, right?

But guess what? If she don't want Nori looking at her, and all of us here, don't have a pocket for that, period. We have a pocket for that, right? So therefore, I'm saying at that point in time, she becomes violated. Because she's saying, I'm comfortable with Tone looking at me. I don't want y'all looking at me. Period. Now guess what? If she follows a you know me? She comfortable being around tone so she know being around tone entails this entails niggas like yo dance You know that being around me

She know niggas like yo son oh shit look at this She know being around me is like that's what it is it entails that because the niggas I be around be like that So you say so you say so you say whatever you got a chick with you in that way I don't have any with me okay we got her which isolated as community properties it's not probably no excuse me my property but We're here for the culture, baby! That's what we do! Y'all can touch, y'all can't buy. Y'all can touch, y'all can't buy. No, you can't. You don't want them to look. Y'all can look and appreciate.

Appreciate that. Don't touch. Okay, so back to my point. Isn't that a bit of a microaggression? Because you're bringing something, look but don't touch. It looks really, and it's kind of overly nice. So bring a bunch of bitch to all my stuff. And then what about that person? Look but don't touch. It looks really, and it's kinda overly nice and cool. Look, look, look, be respectful and don't touch. How you gonna be respectful if the girl got her vagina right in the middle of your chest?

I mean you kinda, I mean I mean. You gotta be in question with aggression. You can't respect the vagina? The vagina on you is making you aggressive. It's not on you, it's on me, it's on me. No, no, no, no. Dory said he's seen it from. He can see it from a distance. Right, but he's seen it from distance right but he's seen it I know

Literally the upper thigh You said, not the vagina, you said, uh, you said camel toe. You said camel toe. I love camel toe. You said that's what you loved about her. That's a totally different conversation. That's what you said you loved about her, though. You said you appreciated that from her. And at that point in time, at that point in time. Because I wanted her as a friend. But look, but look, but look, but look, but look. Are you comfortable right now?

Yes. As a friend, I appreciate it in camel toe. That is 100% me in my heart and my mind. I definitely did. I wanted to be a Harvey Weinstein type of friend. Um, maybe. It's different. You can be a friend, like a regular friend,

or you can be a Harvey Weinstein friend. I don't want to be a Harvey Weinstein friend. A Harvey Weinstein friend? Earth out please. In this case, you didn't know. My pussy's covered up now know Yeah, but just tell me I Just saying so with my sisters I get it if we do buy you a drink I watch when we go to the club with no purse, bro. No idea. They go. They go. They go.

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They go. They go. If they go with no purse, how do you expect to drink? But they expect to go drink. So they're looking for... You're in the social environment, and for the most part, man is going to take the bill. So all I'm saying is though, you have to be, you are complicit at some point in what you're putting out in the universe. You cannot wear fucking raw fish and dive in the ocean and get mad at the shark. Well again, I'm saying, no, no, no, I'm saying, but the thing about it is in terms of world, because you're talking about, you're talking about, you're talking about like, uh...

I'm not talking about you, you're talking about me personally. I'm saying, I only use you because it's your show. We're talking about human beings. I only use you as an example. We're talking about the man versus, I'm saying again, that's how they survive. I'm saying again, I'm saying there's, I'm saying again, there's baby thorn here. So there's baby thorn here. I'm talking about a woman and a man. We gotta have more discipline to ourselves. Of course. Nah, but he was addressing was when he said that the

sexual aggression they're saying is now if you buy a woman. I didn't make that up. I read that. No, I know. That's what he's addressing. That's all of us are addressing. No, it's aggression when I'm saying you come up no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't think so. That's it. If 25% of women feel like it's sexual aggression to send them a drink or compliment them on something physical, then you're 25% of women. And they're like, nigga, you don't see this fucking dress? I'm a dress. Nigga, where my drink at? It's not about everything.

So it's a different situation. They're not great options. If Tony's saying, I should always, from here on, I can never meet a woman, I'm not married. I don't have a girlfriend. If I meet a woman. I'm not married But the whole point was if How do you meet a woman in a society where now nothing like so if I send a drink I'm tripping Why sending a drink you tripping okay again, I'm saying to you again, you don't know what that one was married, right? You don't want me. Yes them saying that's right they were right now you might go to the bathroom you said my wife you

don't know right I want to say exactly exactly you never know why I'm never had a drink of damn life so therefore I'm saying I'm saying to the grave be offended I don't drink so don't send me no drink you know me period I don't drink don't no woman should come to me and say would you want to buy me a drink no I don't want to buy you a drink because I'm saying I'm not gonna put in you will not put on myself I don't drink I'll smoke another drink a smoke a day in my life So therefore I'm not gonna ask you do you want to drink and I'm saying you don't ask me can I buy you a drink? Okay, we have conversation and that's as far as you'll go period but guess what the minute that you say no or you say I'm not

Interested I'm backing up. Well, I think that's what the option is I think women have to meet everybody anyway, I think that's what the option is. I think men and women have to meet everybody anyway. And so, think about being kids. I think we are so digital. I watch everybody I know. And as soon as we get out of this shit, everybody's going to do this. Right. Motherfuckers.

Think about it. Everybody that's there. The social connection is gone. We are not social. So now people are thinking sending you a drink is weird. That's like chivalry. Because the social connection is gone. That's like chivalry because the Guys it's not good because I'm telling you go back to on saying it could be in the bathroom, right? But what it's not and what she's all about is the cheating she would have framed

No, what does she want? Body chemistry and human being no, but you can't read it. They are nonverbal community, right? But you can't really that. I'm saying the difference of... Let's not go for him. No, no, no. There's a lot of... I'm a flirtation type of dude, right? Okay, bro. I'm a flirtation type of dude.

She can be a flirtation. I'm not flirtation. This young lady right here, she can go, and I'm saying she can very well get up and go. She's very flirtatious. I'm saying, but guess what? I'm saying she can be just that. She can be just that. Just a flirt.

That's right. She can be just that. Just a flirt. That's right. And she can say, I want nobody to touch me. Of course. Or she can be... I never said first. That's why she said I don't nobody to touch me Or she could be it could be ten dudes in this room and she's saying I'm gonna have sex with all nine of them and I want The one dude not to touch me There was two girls that was out with us for three months literally I'm talking about from Randy MC all the way down to JT fan I'm talking about those two girls were intimate with every almost every dude on I'm not saying with dudes really but with everyone and then

What do they just don't have sex with yeah? No Social setting I'm saying be social talk right I'm saying it shouldn't be the situation but sometimes you need an opening to people you don't know no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no it is how are you doing my name is Razz that's you and how you do it you can't tell me society society society is saying, Christine, no. Right.

Right. I'm saying society is saying, okay, again, you go back. Like, for me, it ain't bother me because I've always been that type of dude. Like, I'm like, listen, if you ain't feelin' me, I ain't feelin' you. Right. That's how I rock. So I can't understand how a dude ain't get down on somebody. I only like chicks that like me.

Right. Like me. Exactly. That's how I always be. I only like chicks that like me. You don't wanna do business with me. But now, now, now, now, first of all, every nigga here. First of all, I like every nigga here. That's how I like people. I like people like me. I wanna do business with me. You're right. But now, now, now, first of all, every nigga here. First of all, I like your argument.

Every nigga here is... I'm gonna throw that out there. Your black skin argument is fucking fantastic. Black skin argument is fucking fantastic. Oh, that's a good fact, though. Black skin argument is fucking fantastic. But everybody here is, you have a pedigree. So, when you walk before you come there, people already know who the fuck you are.

You're an accomplishment. Not every nigga now going to go. Remember, regular, every human boy on the planet. You are D-Dot. You're Charlie Mack. Tony, come on, man. Knock it off. So your name's on the flyer.

But I don't say that. When he talk to you, before they even get to know how amazing you are as an individual. To be honest, I'm going to be honest with you. Say there's a woman that don't know me, right? I'll tell her my name is Charles. I'm going to tell you what, because I want to pull the wall down. I want to be strictly on the fact that it's our vibe. It ain't about all of the trinkets.

Because to me that's weak. Because what there's a there's a dude I'm something don't have nothing going on for him, but he got a couple dollars room and some women That's what they want for me. I'm saying what you've strictly been bested to know you must say this is what for me You got tails Yo, that's Tony Rock. And I want to have a conversation with you. Look, I want to have a conversation with you and then realize, I want you to realize, oh shit, the chick. I want her to realize, oh, he really a down-to-earth dude.

He ain't cornering who he thought he was. He not cornering the TV shit. He a real nigga from Brooklyn, New York. He came from nothing. and made it to here, and he's appreciative of everything he has in his life. And that makes me more real to them. That brings me down to earth to them, and they need me on a level,

they need me on a level. That's a question. They need me on a level. That's a question. That's all I'm saying. I don't really get into it. I won't be married 20 years in September. Congratulations.

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And there are women that are raised to accept that There are women who he's saying Who leave their house With the intent or not worried about Your realness Or how deep you are. Right. Their intent is to get you.

Right. Well, if you're interested in getting me. So my point is, we don't have a radar on us to know which ones those are. Right. We don't have a signal. We don't have, oh wait, wait. We don't because there could be a woman, like you said, that is dressed just like her that doesn't want anybody to touch her.

She just likes to dress like that. But we take that same girl, another girl that's dressed exactly like her that doesn't want anybody to touch her She just likes to dress like that, but we take that same girl another girl That's just exactly like that that got two niggas sandwich sandwich enough So we equating that style of dress as we We don't know what the intentions are either But then I don't matter with it to drive I'm saying it's it just do matter if she's aggressive I'm talking about in terms of what he actually how he actually acts on it I'm saying because she's dressed like that. She's not responsible representation of what you're saying because she got no panties on. It's not about you. It's not about you. It's not about you. It's not about you. It was the representation of what you said.

And something that happened. That exchange. She's not the representation of what you're saying. You guys, you know what we're saying. You guys think I'm a pussy, you know what I'm saying. You guys think I'm wearing a thing called the Sherman. Tony Rock, roll my ass. And she got panties out. I got that gift, you know what I mean? And Tony Robb is definitely smacking her ass. We cannot judge her. And I will not judge you.

I just want you to know that. I will still respect you. As a human. As a human being. So it's not about you, it's about the individual. No, I'm telling you it's about me as a human. I don't disrespect you. it's about the individual. No, I'm telling you it's about me as a human.

I don't disrespect you. That's real. Give me some sun chips. I love that you got gray, excuse me, um, what is it? Burgundy? I thought you were going to say it's the next one. You went for the hair. I really acknowledge your hair. It was late. I brought it in the same event.

What's up, bud? I'm just trying to know. I respect you as a human. I really respect y'all. I'm trying to bring you back. As a human, man. Give him a hug. Give him a hug. Give him a hug. Give him a hug.

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I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm throwing Shonda Hibbles, man. Yo, are these pre-rolls right here? Yeah, you can use them. Are these pre-rolls real?

Listen, no, just, no, thanks. You don't know. This is, I... Are these pre-rolls real? Yes, yes. Tony Rocker. No, no, Tony Rocker. You're kidding me.

That's a check. That's what that is. No, no, no, let me just tell you something. No, no, let me just tell you something. It's a check. This is real. Marketing and promotion. I come to LA, and I used to go to all the we

Yeah, yeah, Shit. Her shit was like, you crazy. You got to relax. Get it together. Like, it was like, solid radio. This ain't the speed. Go like this. Go like this. It was a little too much. I'm glad you're coming up.

OK. I love this. All right. You love this so hard, huh? So look, I used to come here, and I used to come to LA, and I used to be like, y'all. I know, it's a little weird. Just come here, I was like, oh, I like this because this is already rolled up.

And then it just so happens that I've made a connection with these people. That's where we're at right now, in a Lowe's mansion. And I just need, we just got to do some more. Yeah, do a little more. So just need we just got a dream chance collaboration we have a norwegian our relation we have everything collaboration with these people but what I'm trying to tell you is this is real shit it's very very true they've ever sell them like Chris Rock says, I like your pussy. And then Tony Robbins. Sorry.

It's very seldom. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold for edit. Go. Very seldom. He says, yo, I like your pussy. And then he says, you don't. You go, look, look.

He doesn't want pussy. And then you manufacture your pussy. It's all good. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, it's like, it's like, you know, it's great pussy. I'm out of here, I'm out of here. It's great pussy that's in the world. Like, it's just like, that's team rock pussy.

I'm just saying, just to keep it real with you. Like, sometimes that's the way it happens. Like, he's like, like, how you talking about little Charlie Mac? No, that's a business. No, no, I ain Charlie Mack. I live there. I live there. I live there.

I live there. I live there. I live there. I live there. I live there. I live there. I live there. I live there.

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I live there. I live there. give the dick to the right person. Where is this going? I don't know. It's a 50-50 ratio of where it's going right now. But when you're... No, because sometimes... We have the royalty dick, right? We have the what, though?

Royalty dick. Royalty dick. Royalty dick, yeah. Very true. We're blessed people. You know that means really fucked up because you can get royalties from commercials. It is a royalty date. We have Because the thing is sometimes whoever we kinda like smash Ross guess you gotta relax Like smash. Raskash got to relax. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Because he knows my ending comes soon. What's the ending? You didn't know the ending? Nah, I gotta go to bed. I'm awake. I'm awake.

I know what the ending is. She knows the ending. What is this? I'm going to watch you, Tony Rock. There is no ending. What's the ending. I'm going to watch you. There is no ending, guys. What's the ending? No. Evan, what's the ending?

Listen, sometimes we smash things, right? And then these other people have other agendas Right now when we are like, you know starting out we don't give a fuck about the other genius We just want to bust in your face Stone out there With different you ain't catch it just went different did you hear she said don't talk about you. Nori, Nori, Nori, Nori. See where it went? It went different. You didn't catch it. It just went different. Did y'all hear it? She said, don't talk about me.

You said, bust your face. Don't talk about me when you say that. That sex was aggressive, my friend. You see what I'm saying? That was sex was aggressive. It shifted. It shifted just like that. You see what I'm saying?

It shifted. Pay attention to the final. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Okay? Pay attention. See, us as famous people, it comes apart in our career. People just want to take us down. Right.

And they're gonna say we did sexual aggression. Mm-hmm. When we actually, like you like to even when I bust in the face. Oh, no, these girls. See? See, we got, hey. Not you, Fred, Fred, Fred.

Yeah, you're such a. This is what I wish that Doreen would say. Exactly. So what about, yo, yo, yo, yo, what about those Eagles, what about the Eagles? The Eagles won. The Eagles Fred, Fred. Yeah, you're so cute. This is what I wish that Doreen just said. So what about, yo, yo, hey, yo, hey, yo. What about the Eagles? What about the Eagles? The Eagles won. The Eagles won.

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They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. It's the most amazing ever, but did y'all see Black Panther yet? Oh, fire, fire, fire.

So it's on schedule to make like 325. Let's finish the Black Panther conversation and then we gonna stop. Cause I feel like we gonna be like, like, like... We gonna be like, like, like... We gonna do the other stuff. Who's the editor? Who's the editor? Who's the editor? Y'all gotta edit the fuck out of this.

You think. Here's the thing. Pritt, Pritt,, here's the thing. Yo, yo, yo. Prit. Prit was up. Yo, Prit. Prit. Prit. Prit.

Prit. Prit. Black Panther was the dopest shit ever. You saw it. I didn't even see it yet, but it's the dopest shit ever. Bro, let me just say. It's black people in their highest. No, no, no.

I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. Like, dude is dope. He did. He did. Well, first of all, I don't want to ruin it for y'all. So if you haven't seen Black Panther. I don't want to give it for y'all. So if you haven't seen Black Panther. I don't want to give it away.

I haven't saw it, and I'm sorry. There's literally a theatrical, what do you call it, attribute that has never been utilized in a movie theater that they actually did. Michael Martin. You mean around the screen? I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, yeah, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it.

Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it, yo. But, so there's this theatrical thing that has nothing to do with Black Friday. It's just this thing that's so fire that you get to watch the movie at the time. And then... A must-see, a must-see. You have to see it. You have to see it soon though before that is done.

You need to watch it in a theater. Like certain movies... You gotta watch it in a theater. You gotta watch it just a theater like certain movies Because a lot of people got the same I was just saying, obviously, Jada. What did you think? I was just saying, I like it. I like it. That was tight. You guys ain't never done both. That ain't the Black Panther. That ain't the Black Panther. That's what she does.

Two more movies. What you doing? I don't watch rapper movies. I enjoy it. I don't fuck with rappers because they lie. A Tupac movie? Yeah. Rappers lie in their movies.

Charlie Mack, what do you think of this Tupac movie? What did I think? I think that the gentleman that played Pop He was good. I think the young lady that played Jada was good. Of course we know what I'm saying. Again, the overall story. I told Benny Boom this.

I said it's difficult. It's heavy. That's heavy lifting right there. Especially when Pop mean to people. That's just heavy lifting right there. You know what I mean? You just gotta do this. When somebody, especially with pop, mean to people, that's just heavy for you, man. Again, because I'm talking about, for the same reason somebody love it,

somebody gonna hate it the same way. Well, I know the person that made the screenplay. He got it. What do you think? Two of them. I'm talking. He's average. Average.

OK. I don't watch rappers, Robert. You know what rappers do in their movies? You remember Dave Chappelle when he was born and he had the dick? He had a little baby. You remember Dave Chappelle's show? Yeah, yeah. I definitely? He had a little baby? You remember Dave Chappelle's show? Chappelle's show.

That's what rappers do. My life was so hard. I had it harder than everybody. And I did it all by myself. Right. And you got a big name. I think they should have did it by himself. I think they should have did it.

Every made man was at least made by a woman and another man. I think they should have did three movies. They should have did. In the movie. That's what I said. Say that, Countess. That's what I said. We all need that., NWA, Into the Tupac movie, Into the Dr. Dre Aftermath. That's what I said.

That's what I said. Because you can't stop at the start. Stop at the start. That's a tall order to try to deliver. No, no, no. You have to stop based on accuracy again. And following NWA. Yes.

Oh my goodness. Come on, man. The bar is still big. The bar is still big. You're talking about, again, you're talking about F. Gary Gray versus Eddie Boone. Yes. Oh my god. Come on Again you talk about If I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want to see fantasy, if I want I don't Know Accurate, inaccurate. You can talk it, it's inaccurate. So let's keep it West Coast, because that's where we are expert. And we're on East Coast. Shout out to the fucking West, we here, can we all be happy to open up? Yes, we love the West Coast.

All good. I got to take a piss at some drinks. Dream Champs is here with us. Thank you. Thank you. No, it's just not, first of all, there are New York people, I'm going to do a D-Dot. I'm going to save mine for my own Dream Champs. We're New York people.'m gonna do a D-Dot. I'm a fan of you guys. We know what you're saying. We know what you're saying. But long story short, if it ain't accurate, it's people that were there on the ground that can tell the stories about what happened at this place, when it happened, who did what, who got knocked out, who got fucked up.

You don't tell stories on dead people and act like they got fucked up. You don't lie. So I don't like, I don't watch narratives of rappers for one because because when a nigga pop it reminds me of what rappers say in their music all of a sudden you went from broke nigga then all of a sudden you get your first platinum record and they go i got all the bitches and now i'm gonna go i was a killer like the one you the humble guy that was sad about life Your first two albums you was a nice good guy All of a sudden you kill everybody you got all the dope you the murderer money, you know Pablo every nigga

No, Pablo, bro. Knock it off right knock it off my nigga. If you know Pablo you wouldn't rap Nigga, my cousin is barima big night Here we go, who's the worst thing Who's the number one name with the fake all these niggas who's the number one they go I have one day with the face right area the number one thing who's number one. I'm never gonna Always Number one nigga fake criteria, who? All these rap niggas. Number one! I don't like rap niggas. I'm a nigga that happen to be fast.

Number one nigga fake criteria, who? I feel like he kind of... Who? Take the fifth. Who? Yeah, I will. No, I'm doing politics. I plead politics.

Take the fifth. Politically, they're gonna win. Who are you referring to? When I said what? Number one nigga with the fake criteria. D-Dot, D-Dot, he... Number one nigga with the fake criteria. I believe politics. Please, it's fair. Politically, it's fair. Who are you referring to, Mr. President? When I said what? Number one nigger with fake criteria. That D-Dot, D-Dot, he made- Number one nigger with the fake criteria.

Who? Who? I don't know what the fake criteria, I don't even know what that means. Didn't sell a drug, didn't kill niggas, didn't murder bitches. What you saying, D-Dot? Didn't party in pubs. Speak on it. Speak on it.

Who? Number one nigger. Speak it. Who are you even talking about? Number one nigger. I got it. You feel some type of way. Who is it?

No, y'all rappers, don't comment. Can they get- No, talking about? Number one nigger. I got it. You feel some type of way. Who is it? No, y'all rappers. I'm a comic. You a rapper too, brother. Come on, let's go. Who's the number one nigger?

Did you kill? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about?

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Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about? Who are you said Pop? I said the NWA movie was accurate, but everybody's inaccurate.

I thought he was referring to somebody. Even with Pop, I don't know. I observed him. I was like, your first album was this.

It was like Pop being Digital Underground and then being back in the music. So my point is, I wasn't talking about Pop. I said the movie. I wouldn't watch it.

The movie, right. Somebody went from A to B. I love it. A lot of people go from A to B. I love it. I really love it. A lot of people go from A to B. Okay, so my point is. But specifically Pac, yeah. But if you go from A to B, let's just use Pac, for example.

Like, no, speaking of David, I think he's one of the greatest to ever do it. Yes, he is. Once again, we have to look at, I was just making a point about you saying, what do we consider the greatest and what's the top? Some of the things that he was doing was not authentic? Of course not necessarily what you said, but some people were saying that it's not authentic you say you doing one thing You gotta remember Pac is still a coach nigga A scholar

And I always say this think about Pac and Biggie them niggas helped design each other Biggie I heard because I was an I was a big ready to die did not sound like the same biggie ready to die I good facts I had it because I was an industry kid I'm already about to get signed ready to die did not sound like that it wasn't no fucking get biggie give me one more chance it was not those West Coast records that we all influence each other pocket Biggie I'll never speak on a relationship that niggas had a relationship by the time I come in by by the time I couldn't stay with Jay-z them niggas had lived and died knew me a

little bit I'm a kid with a dream and I show me love and I'm already we are nigga you know I was fucking with niggas in his niggas like when pop actually you actually got down with Big, first off, here's the biggest thing in the world that a lot of us skipped over that program was Pac was a fan of Big. They were friends. If you look at their movies, both movies, Pac was actually the person that gravitated to this. Think about this. Biggie wasn't wearing no Versace. That was Pac coming over here, nigga.

That's him leaving the Bay, coming to LA like, you know what, I'm going to dress up. I'm going to start doing this real fucking flashy shit. Nigga, Tupac was a Bay nigga. He had a fucking stupid beanie on. But you got to remember, Pac is still a process. He's a process of scar face and fucking stretch. That's why you wearing change in the fucking leather It's facts. Yeah

And he learned how to fly up So what I'm saying to you is. I agree with this nigga. There's a Tupac Shakur and then there's a Tupac Shakur. And I mean, I think everybody knows that. That's every human being. There's a Tupac. And there's a Biggie Smalls in there for the Taurus B.I.G. Yep, that's true. And they are intermingled.

There's a Christopher Wallace. There's a Christopher Wallace. There you go. And then there's a Taurus B.I.G. It's the same thing he said. No, what I'm saying to you is, unfortunately, like Charlie Mack said earlier, is that we equate their music with their human reality. Right.

Exactly. And I'm saying to you, and I'm saying to you, that's wrong. You were saying writers and person. I'm saying that's wrong. That's what we're saying. And I'm saying that's wrong. I'm saying to you, I'm saying it's wrong because here goes a guy that's hosting a great show out there. Shout out to Drink Champs. I'm going to you I'm saying is wrong because here goes the guys to

hosting a great show out there shout out the drink champs I'm a thank myself he admired a certain style of rapper listen to these style of rappers but ended up going this way had choices to make that's the beauty of hip-hop you had choices Yeah, we all right, but I'm sure there was a path of time of knowing your path where nor we might not have felt like I Forgot I think your last name is Santiago, but it might have been a record that you might have made that just been a little Crossing your soul. It might that just been a little crossing your soul. It might have just been a little uncomfortable with who you were or who you were perceived as, but you might have been willing to try it.

I mean, 19 records that way. I mean, 19 records that way. Right. And so my point is, at the end of the day, that was probably a part of you that somebody brought out you to explore. But it also might have softened you up a little bit in people's eyes. It might have softened you up in some people's eyes. You know what I'm saying to you? So you actually are portraying something that at certain times ain't necessarily 100% how

you want to be. How people perceive me to be. Well, you created that perception. So when you go left, it's almost uncomfortable for people. We're not used to you like that. I mean, I'm a perfect example. I threw on a suit this weekend. You would have thought I'd never put on a suit except for court.

I saw you in the suit. Niggas was like, yo, I'm like, goddamn. But the perception is every time they see me, I'm trying to be Russell Simmons. It's just baseball hat and this and that. So if we create a perception and then there's a part of us that want to go left, we got to understand that you can't define me by that first perception you had of me. That's true. But that's what we do for rappers.

That's true. So Nori can never, ever go a certain way because we're going to go back, nigga, you probably got dudes right now in your family, all that Pharrell shit, and I need to get T.O. and Wild from you. I need to get T.O. and Wild from you. You're right. You're you. You're right. You're right. But hip-hop, in general, we have to evolve.

Meaning, what I mean is, what I mean is, yo. Evolution takes help and assistance. The thing about it is this, right? No, we all need help. The thing about it is this. I would be a fucking asshole, right? To be the guy that says to Pharrell, yo, you're the only reason why I'm here.

Now, the thing about it is, you guys could think that. Chill, relax. You guys could say, yo, you know what? The only reason why Pharrell is here is because Nori did a record with him, right? That's how you guys could think. Chill. Chill.

Let me think. But I'm telling you, I'm the reason to say I could care less. Pharrell, your hair. I think you're one of the most talented people in the world. And I think that you will be here whether I was here involved with your career or not. This is how I feel. Destiny is destiny. But destiny is destiny.

Thank you. But I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I don't care. So when he's the person that he is without me, it makes me feel fantastic. Absolutely. Yes, sir. It doesn't make me want to tell him, yo, nigga, you got to stand here and you got to salute me and you got to do all that. I don't want that.

No, it's real. It's all real negative, bro. It's like somebody saying big wouldn't be big if he didn't get on that beat at that moment or that time, right? Yeah, but I don't feel that way is what you're saying. I'm like, you're right. And I'm the same way. Right.

Like, I don't feel that way. Like, look, I love Pharrell. Like, I really do. And I think Pharrell will be who Pharrell is, regardless of whether he gets... But y'all were the vehicle for that opportunity Well I've never Acknowledged what we did

Yes I'ma always acknowledge that And I'ma always tell him I've seen you You was wearing tight chains Well VA niggas I just wanted to say this. Everything that we ever do in our lives, hearing your stories, you gotta remember.

This is my first time ever meeting you. We met a few times. I was so wasted, what the fuck was I doing? The thing about it, again, I'm a student, first and foremost. This is my first time actually aware enough to know I met you. I'm about to be in Philly over here. I lived here for what, 10 years? I'm not going to lie, I'm truly mad.

Your name rings every day and I never even fucking talk to me. I was like, what's this one? Yeah, I was there. I was like, yes, I still do. And so I was listening to it. To me, I was like, whoa. And then, initially, the conversation, I just wanted to say thank you.

But it was like, I was like, Yeah, you made up my idea. But my whole thing about Nori and everybody, what you said to me, honestly, on some real shit, those foundations, Boyz II Men or this, that, and the third, some of those people I know. I met them later in my journey, before I'm a signed artist. When I met Nori, I got the best story about him. I definitely don't get

no poison man story that was crazy I need a poison mr. I went to high school with Mark yeah I went to high school but I was drawn yeah I When he left LA and came to Philly, he created a group. I saw him, and I was like, that's ill. Let me tell you what's wild about that. He left on the pretenses of being the Bobby Brown of the group. That was his sole reason for leaving him. He created a group and left the group. Was Will Smith the Bobby Brown of the...

Of Jazz Your First Friends? Yes. No, no, no. No, because he's a legend. They never broke up. They're still together. They never broke up. That's all. Fresh Prince? Yes. No, no, no. No, because J.J. is a legend, bro. They never broke up. They're still together. They never broke up. That's hard.

They never broke up. That's hard. Never. So Will is still with J.J. No, J.J. of the Fresh Prince still is today. But it's just that Will is just like a lot richer. No, no, no. He's not doing money.

No, no, no. Think about this. Y'all are past. I'm saying again, okay, I'm going to walk this way. You can walk that way. But we're still together. At the end of that road, you can still meet no. Think about this. Y'all are past this. I'm saying, again, okay, I'm going to walk this way. You can walk that way. But we still together. At the end of that road, we still going to be there.

We all down. Brothers, man. Today. That's the best story you can have. That's the thing I love about it. That's the thing that I love about it. Because everybody hates each other. Everybody that's a group in general.

To make it bad to find peace. No one wants to be on a nose. Give me something like that. Nobody wants to be on the age of. I hate every name on the face. I hate every name on the face. I hate every name on the face. I hate every name on the face. I hate every name on the face. I hate every name on the face. I hate every one wanted to be... I hate every nigga that I used to...

That's what I'm saying. That ain't the case. No one wanted to be the other person. Jeff was the number one to be Will. Will was the number one to be John. Period. Jeff was the magnificent. Will was the number one to be John.

I'm going to be honest. Period. Can I play on Will Smith? Absolutely. All right. Go ahead. Put me in a biopsy pic. Biopsy. Biopsy.

I love it. We don't want to go biopsy pic. We want to do a biopsy pic. We want to do a lifetime movie. We want to do a biopsy pic. What is it? A lifetime movie? Biopsy.

Biopsy. Biopsy. Biopsy. Not a biopsy. Not a biopsy pic. I'll send you a vote if you want me to. We'll do it in a vote. I'm gonna get in shape at some point. Let me tell you something. I'm saying to you, anything is possible. The Fresh Prince played Ali, so guess what?

You can do it. No, but I wanna try to play the Will Smith. You know what we can do? Yeah, that's what it comes out. And the Philly Will Smith. I'm going all out. That's where you're going, Philly. The Philly Will Smith.

I'm going. That's where you're going, Philly. The Philly Will Smith is Fresh Prince. I'm going like, that's what I want to play. I want to play the Will Smith before he got on. The Fresh Prince. That's the Fresh Prince. So I want to play that nigga.

Let me tell you, you get the Hot Step. I can get the Hot Step. That's it, bro. And I'm going to walk on the Rocky Steps. No questions. No questions. I'm going to do all that. No questions. No questions. We're running next.

We're running walking steps. We're always gonna pick these up. We're calling all the people today. We're always gonna pick these up. Charlie. If you make that commitment, I'm talking about me and Will will do that movie. Period. First time I lose.

First time I lose. I know I'm gonna lose some time. period He didn't wear Chinese shoes. No Chinese shoes for him. Will, I don't wear no Chinese shoes. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif.

Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif.

Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Lacoste, Courtif. Um, I'm like the closest thing to will Nuri, Nuri, Nuri, let me go on record saying this, right? Nuri, Nuri, Nuri, let me go on record saying this, though. Wait, wait, wait. Let me go on record saying this. Tony is you.

Everything that you've done thus far, you've been successful at it. Right or wrong? I feel like I played well. Will Smith. Here we go. I feel like it's me. That's the movie. Look, I'm casting it.

Nigga, call him Charlie. You call him Charlie, man? Absolutely. I'm telling you. I'm just telling you. I'm telling you. I already see it. And you, Jeff. I'm telling you. I already see it. And you, Jeff?

I'll be Jeff. And you, Jeff? Magnificent. Oh, I'm Jassy Jassy. Absolutely. I'm not going to lie. So me and you, Jassy. Me and you.

That's me and Flattop. Jassy, first friends. Jassy, first friends. I could lose weight and everything. I got to lose weight. I'm going to lose a lot of weight. Flattop. And I'm going to get light skin.

Oh, he had a Flattop, too, man. Definitely a Flattop, too. I'm going to get light skin. When he wore glasses. There was no Cubans. It was Philly, nigga. He wore glasses. Charlie, do I have to get light skinned. Oh, he has lights on too. When he wore glasses. There was no Cubans, it was Philly, nigga. Charlie, Charlie, you're light skinned. You know, I'll stand like, in like, in like, uh... Listen, we can do that, we can change.

We can get light skinned. Hey, we should do a color correction. We should do at least a funnier dye. We should do a funnier dye, and you gotta be Will Smith. I'm gonna take a pee. I know Jeff. I'm gonna pee. I'm gonna pee.

Color correction, we can fix that. We can make you lighter. And then I'm gonna stand on my knees, I'm gonna be short. I'm gonna be honest. We gotta take a pee. We gotta do a pic. We gotta do a pic and a drop. Is this the exit out or is this cold out? No, I'm just gonna get out of this. Sometimes it's like this.

It's cold out. It's a cold out. Thanks for having me. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having me. That's it for Dream Champions. Thank you, Nori.

Thank you, Chuck. Charlie Mack, Paul, and Shay. The before. The before. The before. The before and Shay got me. I feel like you're about to do a screen test right now. No, I can do that.

Do it right now, y'all. I feel like I'm about to do a screen test right now. No, I can do that. Do it right now, the screen test. I dare you. No, that's not what's going to happen. You know why?

I'm going to go in and focus. I'm going to focus. Give him the carrot, bro. I'm going to give him the carrot. Shaheen Reed in the house. My brother. I'm not going to lie. I got to take a piece.

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