Drink Champs - Episode 124 w/ Kenny Burns and Casanova (Part 2)

Episode Date: April 10, 2018

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Now let's get into episode 124, part 2 of our sit down with Kenny Burns and Casanova. Let's go. What's your favorite part of the game? What's your favorite part of the game? Yo, it's the hustle, man. You know, it's like that line from Peyton Fool, man. You know what I'm talking about? Like, I love the game.

You know what I'm saying? It's an adrenaline rush. You know what I mean? At a certain point, hustling becomes business. You know what I'm saying? But when you get into You know I mean at a certain point hustle becomes business You know I'm saying when you get into it is the thought of can I do it, but that's any product And that's why I challenge the youngins man. You can sell dope you can sell anything You can sell anything you got motherfuckers out here millionaires that have no fucking formal education None street motherfuckers. Single parent home,

no parent home, raised by their grandmother. Let's make some noise for the resource woman. Special education. That's my favorite part of the game. What's your favorite part of the game? My favorite part of the game is proving people wrong.

I feel like... He all the way rock nation, ain't he? You know what I mean? He fucking titles. He said tripping, prove people wrong. You know what? I feel like... Anybody want the way Roc Nation, ain't he? You know what I'm saying? He fucking titles. He said tripping proved people wrong. You know what I'm saying? I feel like...

Anybody want some of this red champagne? Oh, it smells awkward, bro. It's broke. It's broke. I feel like because it's me, it's like,

I was a jail nigga. When I say jail nigga, I'm institutionalized to this day. Like, even my girl would be like, nigga, you not in jail.

I'd be like, nah, nah, fuck that because you might need me if I you not in jail. I'd be like, nah, nah, fuck that, because you might need me if I go back to jail. I seen your girl, your girl was rolling it out, her friend was rolling it out. Y'all rich over there. I mean, let's make some noise. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, you might

be listening to me. No, no, no, no, no. But that love, that love, I want to say this, I want to say this, that love, though, is keeping you focused, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Because without that motherfucking balance, niggas like us go left. Yeah, we definitely go left. You know what I'm talking about?

Hold on to that shit, B. But me, personally, I feel like, yeah, when you're proving people wrong, me, I've been in jail with niggas so long. It's like everything I attacked, I did it the best. You know what I'm saying? Even with Rodman, like dudes in my hood, they was just robbing regular niggas. I said, fuck that.

He might not have it on him. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to rob check cash. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to wait. I'm going to leave him. Do you mean you did this Rodman? I said, damn.

I went to jail already for it. I'm proving. Talk about that, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I went to jail for it.. I'm proving. Talk about that, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I went to jail for it. I started just like casing the joint. I'm like, fuck going in somebody's crib not knowing if they got it or not. People lying.

They got fake jewelry. I went to the check cashing spot and I just cased the joint. You know what I'm saying? So with anything I do Whatever I did I kinda like Took it over You know My boys here with me

When I first came home And you know I took over The nigga with the ice The nigga with the ice You shot it I took over that lane And it was a lane

That you had to really think You know what I'm saying You had to You had to use computers And my brother was like Cass how you just came home And you did that shit I'm saying? You had to use computers. And my brother was like, Cass, how you just came off? And you did that shit. I'm like, nigga, I'll watch.

Just like I said, I'm taking heed to everything you're saying. I'm taking heed to it because sometimes you need to know that. What you said about being selfish to make your dreams come true, I kind of felt awkward. For the last two months. I've been like

Now I'm not doing that if if you don't wanna fuck with this You got I'm eliminating you like you can't hang around me no more, but guess what it's proving you Yes to yourself. Yes that you could do this shit. Yes, so while I'm gonna fucking be in the way of that so me doing All this time, like seven years of some change, by myself,

coming home, getting right back to it. You know what I'm saying? Like the first, I came home, I was selling dope in jail. They put me in isolation. Allegedly.

No. I got caught. I got caught. I got caught. Thank you. Thank you. I got caught. I got caught already. It's in the paperwork. Allegedly. But I got caught. Thank you. Thank you. I got caught.

I got caught already. It's in the paperwork. Cool. But I'm sure Joe Fincher, they gave me 36 months in the box and I was just so broken. I was on meds. I used to be like, damn. I used to be so sick, right? So coming home and I'm like, yo, what's up? I'm talking to my niggas like yo what's up with the jokes like I need a joke

And niggas is like jokes nigga we ain't doing that no more nigga you robbing we ain't on that Niggas is soft what's going on here? You're not robbing niggas like we on this wave. I'm like alright Well what's going on so they ain't let me in shout out to them. They let me in right? They was like you can't my child rob us, you know some of my niggas is like yo this nigga is just Thank you, so now I ain't saying that. I ain't meet you till today. Thank you. So now, I ain't saying nothing. I ain't robbing nobody, nothing. But I'm watching and I'm listening. So niggas is working and I'm busy.

I'm watching. Oh, that's how you do that? That's how you do that? That's how you do that word? All right, cool. So one nigga fucked up and one lady fucked up. Shout out to her. I love her.

I like cook food. She fucked up. And she was lazy one day love her. I like her food. She fucked up. And she was lazy one day. She was lazy. She was like, cat. She was lazy. She was like, cat, this is how you do this, this, that, and the third. Gave you the game.

When she showed me, because she was lazy, because I was giving her my money to do what I do. She showed me. I said, oh, this shit is easy this bitch is crazy I call my name so listen we live we don't watch this for men I saw you know I'm saying I took off like you said before rap nigga always do you bought before right you know I'm saying so I say proving people wrong is where, again, I'm hanging around the right dudes, and I'm just in the studio, and I'm like, what the fuck? I can do this shit.

You know what I'm saying? I never said this before, but I'm going to say it now. Shout out to my motherfucking swaggy jazzy in the building. Shout out to her. We was in the car and we were just making a freestyle. Me, Pooch, we was just making a freestyle. And she was just going in. She's rap.

She rap, but she don't know she rap. But she's just going. And I told her, baby, I'm using that line. She was like, I said, tell me what you said just now. I'm going to be a rapper because these motherfuckers, these niggas can't fucking rap. Whatever they're doing, I can do. She thought I was playing. Next week, I was a rapper.

I'm in the studio doing shit, going in, right? But when you're in the studio with dudes, and shout out to everybody, but when you're in the studio with dudes, you see out to just everybody, but when you're in the studio with dudes, you see how hard it is to come up with a song. See, when you hear the song already, you just be like, oh, this shit is lit. He's nice, but you don't see the process. So when I got to see the process, I'm like, shit.

It's work. I could do that shit too. I could come up with a bar and wait, think, and then come up with the next bar. Punch me in, please. Punch me in. Until you figure it out. Yeah, punch me in. Hold on, let me hear the beat.

I need like 20 minutes. And I learned. I said, hold on. All them years of me writing poetry in jail, I could pull this shit off. I could ride. Oh, you was writing poetry in jail? Yeah, I was writing poetry. You got a lot of time on your ass, man.

You know what I'm saying? You know when you send poems to your girl, you know what I'm saying? Skies is red and blue. You know what I'm saying? You got to rhyme. You got to rhyme. So you start rhyming and after a certain amount of time, all my

captions was rhyming. I'm like, damn, I could really pull this off. And then I just got lucky. A situation occurred, niggas tried to rob me, and I just made a song. Niggas tried to book me for my wife. That's a real story. I don't really kind of spit

shit that's not in a real. Remember what I told you? I said before, first is get to the money. It's rapper, I said before first is get to the money, but it's Rapper Tenders talk about what you lived not what you live in I feel like these dudes try to act like they live in what they rapping about is impossible All right, you're not shooting nobody. You didn't shoot nobody, some people are, but that's just my

aura. I feel like it's backwards when dudes struggle, catch their bodies, tie people up, do whatever, sell drugs, become a rapper, and really want to do all that. Why would you really want to do that? If you've been through it already. You know, I've been With me talking about don't want to go through it again. No Shout to live and shout out to my boys. That's with me right so cool. Live the club live the club

Okay, I used to pay 30,000 to get in live table and all that table I used to leave live after the 30,000 and the five thousand dollar rental outside with no pussy No, that's the stern of the honesty. Shout out to Headline and Groove out there. He shot to the honesty. That's a real fucking statement. A lot of you niggas be doing that shit. Most people wouldn't say that.

Nobody would say that shit. So you do all that shit, and you still don't get no pussy, nothing at all. This is a real nigga beat. Right? This is a real nigga beat saying that shit. So yesterday, well, today is Monday. Yeah. Tuesday.

So Sunday, go to live and just walk in. Yeah. And they treating you like 30,000. And the niggas that got 30,000 are looking at me tight. You know what I'm saying? You got your girl. I got 5,000 on me, too. I ain't spending a dime.

You know what I'm saying? It feels great. And this is the blessings of what I'm talking about. You don't put in all that work, rap, to go back. And this is why I say, I ain't going back.

I kind of like, drill it in my head. Every time I drill it in my head, because I went through so much. Like, I don't even talk. I got, my mom got 10 kids, and my father got 12

and I really I probably talked to one person out of my whole family I'm Panamanian they get busy you know what I'm saying cause it's like both of them my father is Jamaican and Panamanian

your father's Dominican he said it Jamaican so now it's like it's Jamaican and American. Your father's Dominican. He said it. Jamaican. Jamaican. Jamaican. I hear that. I hear that. So now it's like, it's just real shit. And I don't want to talk too long, but I'm going back to where I said proving people wrong is because they all proved, like, they all was like, oh, this nigga going to jail. Like, first day out.

Yo, this nigga, he's a hothead. And how long you been out? I've been out for four years April 26th this year It's real it's real and that's what I like doing you know I I'm saying I like doing the pulling up on Somebody that thought I wasn't gonna make it and even my family members and it feel good to be like yeah Look, I'm late. I'm good. I'm not in jail. I don't need you. I don't need I don't need a package That's what I'm saying, and it is a blessing so me proving people wrong is

It's just my is just my armor. You know what I'm saying? And just like how you were saying even with son is you can be great. You can be great. Why set yourself up for failure? Because, again, like I said in any other interview, you're going to have to prove it. You know said in any other, you're going to have to prove it. Have to. You know what I'm saying?

You're going to have to prove it. You know what I'm saying? When it's all said and done, I said I'm going to knock a nigga's teat out, right? If anybody violate me, I'm going to knock their teat out.

Yeah. So if you say something, you got to be willing to do it. You got to be willing to do it. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Cheers to that.

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Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, sir. We asked you what's the best thing in a game. What's the worst thing in a game? What is something that if you had a chance to do it on a local level, you would erase it? You would erase it, right?

I wouldn't erase nothing I've done because I've been a stand-up nigga from the start. I mean, it's something that's in a game. Yeah, but the game is, you know, I can't stand life. What made you want to quit? I told him before you came. I left the music business when Dame and J fell out it won't work for no more I seen some brothers. I know you know say come in the game together and build Let's talk about even your transition from puff to Damage because because I'm sure at that time if you was confused puff number one guy Yeah, so from you to be rough number one guy you be a dames number one guy

I'm sure there was some itemosity not only the puff side No, because I made sure everybody was good just like when I gave Dana movie paid in full I wasn't working with him I just happened to me AZ and took them to some niggas that could put them on you know and then now I don't want to say that as you know, Dane will know So my point So so my point is they are the sheep to look and I think that's it. That's the problem You can't have one motherfucker hustle. I ain't letting these niggas dictate my future or how I'ma be successful I'm a fee my motherfucking family. I wouldn't became the second black designer ever to be in Saks Fifth Avenue. Ryan

Kenny I made hip-hop grow up. I had became the second black designer ever to be in Saks Fifth Avenue with Ryan Kenny I made hip-hop grow up. I had niggas in button-ups. That was my shit for life. For life. Put that new we married little wife. We got a little first on drink chat tonight. First. No, listen, but real talk,

I accept that challenge to be your good brother. Thank you. And for anybody who need the game because the game, I would never walk to Brooklyn for cheesecake.

That's just not who I am. One second. Somebody that was great told me I ain't going to say his name because I don't really like that motherfucker. Nah.

More Uncle Nery. Nori told me, you know what's wrong with people nowadays? They don't want to help the people like them. And I caught myself. I caught myself. He didn't even know. I was on a chair and I caught myself I caught myself he didn't even know I was on the chair and I'm like damn you know because me being a robber

shooter whatever you want to help somebody like you and then I'm like It doesn't make sense. That nigga not coming through. That nigga's in the wrong, you niggas. It doesn't make sense. Watch that nigga. I'm telling my man, when he comes in, say, watch him. Watch him. What's going on? Watch him. Watch that nigga.

Watch him. No one else can tell you. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to help them, but damn, who helped you? You know, who gave you that shot? And that shit is so important. We're helping people right you but Fuckin needs you for some you know sending niggas will take anything from you you let them yes You know said if you don't have no backbone

That's what that was my purpose of saying never walked the Brooklyn for cheesecake unless I was getting the motherfucking slice But they respected that it's niggas that's gonna go do whatever the fuck you say doing gonna be right back with the cheesecake But the niggas ain't going far in life. Yeah, the niggas gonna be subservient to the rescue be bad orders You know say but it's certain niggas that got they own niggas like this is a soldier right Jay recognized that well You know saying whoever put you in the motherfucking mix recognized that. It's not a sense of what he did. It's what he can do and can be. I told all my artists, I don't want artists.

I want partners. Yeah. I want motherfuckers that can have it. But that's because you've been shitted on. You know, of course. That's because you know the game. I don't want, I don't want. You know what it is?

I don't want artists. That's because you know the game. You know what it is? Like what I told dudes, right? Before I was rapping. I had money, but I was the shooter, the security, the friend, the nigga you want to talk to, the nigga you want to lean on. It's cool.

These niggas don't want to be the shooter. They don't want to be the security. They don't want to be nothing. You know what they want to be? Let's talk. They want to skip all the rules. You can't skip the motherfucking process don't want to be the bank. You know what they want to be? Let's talk. They want to skip all the rules. You can't skip the motherfucking process. You can't skip the process.

You cannot. Give them a fucking clap for that. You cannot. You can't. You got to pay your dues one way or the other. You got to. What is the worst thing in the game, though? Worst thing in the game is the way these motherfuckers are not loyal.

This is a business built on loyalty. This is a business me telling you my man can rap over in Queensbridge. My man from Brooklyn's nice. My... Then spreads out

across the world. You know what I'm talking about? And you can't be loyal to that? How you can't be loyal to that? And that's, like I said, why I left Rockefeller. Outside of the fact that Dane tried to,

you know, one day talk to me like he talked to everybody else. And then it was almost like, what you mean you leaving? Nigga, I'm leaving, nigga. Fuck you mean. Keep my last check for that fucking chain you just bought me.

You know what I'm saying? I'm out. Because you keep the chain, too. I'm keeping the motherfucking chain. But you keep that check. And it wasn't a Rockefeller piece. It was my son. Damon used to wear these angels.

I was about to say, nigga, what's going on with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that, too. But my point is, like, at the end of the day, my nigga like, loyalty is everything. You know what I'm saying? You can't have shit without loyalty.

And loyalty ain't got nothing to do with being a sucker or being somebody's slave. Loyalty got something to do with playing your motherfucking position to get to a place where you can be a boss of your own.

To be on a certain pay level. Let me step in real quick. Again, you hear what he's saying? You don't have to like a motherfucker to be loyal to my father. 100%. Motherfuckers don't understand that. They say, would I rather love or loyalty?

I want loyalty. You know why? Because it's some niggas I do not like. I don't like the ground they walk on, but I'm loyal to them. You know how to move. You know what I'm saying? If anything happen,

they know I'm going. You don't have to like a motherfucker. That's where niggas fuck it up at and be like, yo, I don't like that nigga. I don't want him.

You don't have to like him, but you have to be loyal to him because if he in your circle or anybody that's in your circle, you have to take care of them like they're your own. Whatever they come with, you have to take care of them like they're your own. Whatever they come with, you have to take that.

And I never got caught up in Dames bullshit or Puffs bullshit or anybody's. You know what I'm saying? But you were loyal. And to this day. I do know there's loyal shit. To this day, I won't. And I will protect you. After moving on, you were still loyal.

I have to. That's my duty. I can't be no motherfucking OG not giving a game. I can't. Although I didn't get it, and I might not have got it from the niggas. The niggas wasn't teaching me shit. But let me ask you something. So you was actually-

I mean, willingly. They taught me a lot by experience, but I'm talking about willingly giving me game. I understand. But what- It's to be sold, not told. That's why. Will you witness it? Because that's arguably one of the greatest breakups in hip hop.

You know what I'm saying? In hip hop, yeah. And us being hip-hop historians, this is what this is based on. How did it feel you just witnessing? It hurt my heart. When did you start to know that this was the first break to the puzzle that was, this might be over in two or three years? So the first time, right? So when Cam and them came to the rock that's one thing

Oh god, I want to hear what you're saying is this like that's what they got a little shaky when when cam and him came To the rock cam and then was self-sufficient. Okay cam and then was moving the way they was moving It was dipset They was moving the way they was moving and Rockefeller locked in but they was doing what they was doing and it was a lot Of friction you got Harlem and Brooklyn. It really comes out then, you know what I'm saying? So, Jay Brooklyn crew with Jay, Harlem niggas with Dane,

you know what I'm saying? Dane going on to do films, they probably one, two, three, four, five, six,

seven, paid for all these things and you can see the motherfucking separation. Not because they don't fuck with each other, but Jay had other plans. Dane had other plans,

but to see it not be cohesive, even when Dane, like Jay got the money from Rock and Fire. And where you at? Where you at in this point? I'm president of rock music, and that's when I had Nicole Ray, Kanye West. Oh, remember this. Yeah, all that shit. The whole way.

Samantha Ronson. But my point is, I'm seeing this shit, and it first affected me when I couldn't put out records. No, but I couldn't put out records. So I'm like, how the fuck I can't put out records? How the fuck I can't put out this rock? Jay can't sign off on it. No, no, because Jay had to sign off.

I remember playing Alan Anthony from Chris John's album called Oakland International. This fucking album was crazy. I mean, we shot a video for 5,000. It was on BET number one, all kind of shit. But Jay wasn't co-signing. And I set in the back his blue man. That was the person he actually signed them, right? Well, yeah, but he was a part of it I mean it was but my point is I said in this blue made back in front of 825 8th Avenue He told me I can't do nothing with it right now. And I'm like, what do you mean? You can't do nothing with it

Nigga, this your label. This is a whole nother genre of music We bought the going into and really own. But that's when I knew that shit wasn't right. You know what I'm saying? And then you know you see here the Ramblers and niggas

and what do you think he meant? I think he had bigger plans and they didn't include Dane. Like he had already moved on basically.

He is. Dane was fucking up relationships. Dane was fucking up relationships. Y'all seen the videos niggiggas, all over the fucking internet. They made a movie where it seemed like it was just like what happened. It's exactly what happened.

You know what I'm saying? And they tried to make that movie to make it seem like it wasn't, but the deterioration had already started. And that hurt me most. Look, continue right after this. This is a blessing. I just want to thank Nori, all of y'all for having me here. Because I'm dizzy right now.

You know why I asked you? You're giving me so much knowledge right now, and I appreciate you. You know why I asked him this, little cat? Because I was like the only Queens dude. If you look at all these soundtracks, you look at Streets is Wild. You was a black sheep? No, he was the only one that was on there.

Like, I was the only Queens nigga. I don't know why they showed me love. I don't know why they was cutting me checks. But I didn't question it. You feel me? I just figured, I'm here. What the fuck? You was a wild another.

You know what I'm saying? It's like somebody saying, don't go to that projects. Don't make this rob everybody. And you go there any time. And niggas, you don't go to that projects, don't make this rob everybody. And you go there any time, and niggas, you don't want to even tell me. I'm going to tell you why. No, no, no. No, I'm going to tell you why.

I'm going to tell you why. Nigga, you a fucking real nigga, and you got more shit to offer than music. And that's what niggas do. We'll talk. We'll talk. That's why you got the number one podcast. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's why you got the number one podcast That's right

That's why you invented this Two years later on some shit you ain't started on Because you a real motherfucker And that transcends music That transcends cultures That's genres Like you ain't in no box No but look

Pardon me But cause Cause I'm gonna get back to the point The point was If you would have made me say, bet my last that- That they would break up. That they would break up or bet my last that they would be together forever, I kid you not. Money is a motherfucker. Because I used to see them communicate without them communicating.

Like, it was, I'm talking about- It was weird. The tightest of the tightest. When they were tight, I'm talking about, I ain't talking about when it was weird. I'm talking about the tightness of the tightness. When they were tight, I'm talking about, I ain't talking about when it was weird, I'm talking about when it was tight. I would see them niggas be like, and I'm like, them niggas had a whole quarterback move,

like this shit was some Bill Belichick shit. I was like, holy shit! These niggas, this nigga Dame and Biggs were like this, and them niggas was just, they was bringing people on base. Like, a baseball. Them niggas, I'm just was bringing people on the bass. Like, a bass wall, them niggas was just. They was going gang side. I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you.

The attention. At one point, this how tight they were. Like, they would look at each other, and that's how tight it was. So if you was to tell me, like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was real. I would never, ever have thought that. It was one of the saddest days of hip hop,

because if you look at puff He the only one that kept it going rough riders You know collapse Rockefeller could all them all the even Andre Harrell break Had a little turn Mario Him off now that was him leaving going to do him I'm gonna drink her real first of all big shot the Andre give it for Andre Without Andre already would been no Bad Boy. He bought the champagne to the game.

You know what I'm talking about? The fly, the motherfucking R&B with the hip hop. He bought that to the game. And there wasn't no beef. Dre would tell you to this day if he was on this show, he let him go because he knew he was bigger than Uptown. He was bigger than Uptown. Puff was making moves and connecting dots

that niggas in the normal music business that we was used to was making. This nigga was a motherfucking scientist. Like you say he was studying? That nigga is a fucking scientist. But guess who taught him? Dre. Andre Rell. You know what I'm saying?

So that's a nigga that I gave him. You gotta say Andre Rell because you said Dre and people want to think it's Dr. Dre. Yeah, Andre Rell. That's the only nigga that taught you shit. They gonna be hitting dots and saying, y'all niggas information shit is not right. Dre was the first nigga with a driver that I saw. He was the first nigga with a Basquiat. He had a whole fuckin' Upper West Side apartment.

He was a artist himself. He was a fuckin' artist himself, but learned the business and taught people that it was a lifestyle you had to sell. Who would Puff have been without the lifestyle? Who would he have been without the lifestyle, B? Hey, yo. You know what I'm sayin'?

This motherfucker right here. No, no. You know know what so crazy again I'm not even I don't want to talk I just want you to talk I fucking love everything you're saying. You know why? Because some people forget about the lifestyle. The lifestyle you have to create can hinder your relationship, your kids, your friends, your family. It hinders all of that. You said 20 years. So it's like the lady that owned the record label,

you got to rub her back a little. But when you get home, it's beef. When you're around your friends, niggas like, are you bugging? Nigga, you created something. When you around your friends and it's like you bugging you do nigga You created something there's no longer when you walk in the office. You're not gonna be nori. Yeah You're not gonna be cast once you create that You have to stick with that all the way through tired

sleepy Heart broken sleepy hurt heartbroken stress you lose a family member you have to keep it we don't want to hear cause if I I'm looking at an artist I don't want to hear

yo I just took a L but I'm in the office sad we want to hear all of that we want to hear your L but keep it moving and that's how we respect you

we respect people by laws. Safari, safari, safari, safari. Hold on, hold on. Before we go on safari, I want to tell you about what you just said. You know why people fuck with you? Yeah.

Because it's authentic. A nigga that don't know you going to believe you, nigga, not only because of the way you project your motherfucking words and your stories, but because when I'm meeting you right now, you're saying all the shit I thought was the truth.

Do you know how powerful that is? Do you understand that there's not a lot of motherfuckers that can sit here and say what the fuck they said in the last interview? I'm talking about the day they walked out the motherfucking jail as a free man. You're saying the same shit. That's why niggas fuck with you.

Thank you. And all these motherfuckers that's on, all of us. Thank you. I'm talking about the gatekeepers. Been through that. Thank you. And all these motherfuckers that's on, all of us. Thank you. I'm talking about the gatekeepers. Been through that. Thank you. And without that kind of struggle, you can't relate. But guess what squares do?

They relate to real niggas. They want to be real niggas. You know what I'm saying? I always use this analogy. 10% of the world is cool. 10% of the world is motherfucking gatekeepers. They the motherfucking lifestyle specialists. They fucking curate culture like no other.

90%? They buy the shit. They fucking curate culture like no other. 90% they buy the shit. They buying your shit, young nigga. You got it. I'm telling you. And don't fucking let up for these sucker ass niggas.

You ain't got to be no kind of way on the hooks. You ain't got to do none of that shit that ain't you, authentically you. You do you. Scream at a nigga.

Set a trip on these motherfuckers, knock the teeth out. Do all that shit. No, but, you know, unfortunately, you know, so far he went through an incident. No one here is laughing at him or judging him. So that one, no April Fools? Nah, no, wait, see, form of fashion. So that happened.

Like, what does a person like you say, Cass? I feel like, like this. She was playing at first. I actually did. I knew he wasn't playing. I gotta take off my glasses. Right. I feel like this. With

anybody, with anybody that's getting money, you gotta feed the wolves. You know what I'm saying? Feed the wolves is the key of every rapper that's trying to go through this thing we call industry. And you got to bring it down for these people. Feed the wolves.

The niggas that's protecting you. The niggas that's running. Feed the wolves. The niggas that's protecting you. The niggas that's running with you. Feed the wolves. Let me show you. I was a wolf. When I say was, I say I was a wolf. Because I was protecting anybody around me. I'm shooting.

I'm doing whatever the case may be. This is what I'm doing. This is what I'm here for. I know what I'm here for. I'm not here to rap. I'm not here to entertain. No, you're here for here to entertain. I'm here to squeeze in the club, put it in my shoe. You know, I said it in one of my lyrics. I said, Bouncer, check my pockets. He ain't check my shoes. You know what I'm saying? Chop outside if you're with your crew. That's just me. You know what?

Listen, we're going to get a little joint in here. If anybody want, somebody go to the car and get it. So long story short, I feel like Safari, and you know, we cool. I feel like Safari ain't pay the wolves. Pay the fucking wolves. You think it's something? I was a wolf. I see a wolf in my section or in my circle. I'm like, this nigga want to get paid because I don't even trust this nigga if I don't pay this nigga like

This nigga moving. That's real. You know I'm saying, you know shut and I'm gonna show you how really It's my man. I just posted them my man. He right there Right there. Let me smile here. You see it's my man, right? They like your cat they get anything moving. I'm sure I said you ain't got a shoe But that's all niggas want you don't want to be killers You think robbing niggas don't want to have to I said you don't gotta shoot. I say yo, bro. This shit is lit I'm so hungry I'm living for free. I'm just rapping and he was saying to me. Look, first time he came out, done, whole. I said, yo, fam, you buggin'.

Put that gun away, chill out, have fun and enjoy life. He was like, yeah, he gave me a little attitude. I said, I gotta watch this thing, I don't know. He liable, yeah, like he gave me a little attitude. I was like, I got to watch this thing. I don't know. He liable. He liable. Got to watch this nigga, man. Yo, drop me off on 83rd Street. I'm going to take the cab and I'm going to go to my crib.

I got to watch this nigga. But after a while, I saw him humbling himself. You know why? Because I saw him doing things that I wouldn't take myself. And when I say that, it's the same bullshit you said you go through. When I'm watching him, he by the section and the security like, yo, move this way. And I'm like, I'm watching him again. I'm watching him.

He humbled himself because I want to took that. You know what I'm saying? And I'm telling him to take that, but I want to took that. So I'm saying and I'm telling him to take that but I want to took that so when I see him compromise me right though he learning you know I'm saying that's your give back then I'm bringing them in the house you're on the couch you know I'm saying so I say that to say trust you point-blank period so far Safari gotta feed the wolves. Some people are scared of the wolves because you know what? It's not genuine.

It can't be fake. You can't just be paying niggas like, here, take that, take that, take that. It gotta be genuine love. Even with you, you might have 50 wolves because you're just a good dude. Dudes is gonna protect people that they know that is genuine and good this shit can't be fake

You can pay securities all you want I got a fucking story. I got a story. Everybody know who H and Jack is, right? Yeah, of course. So I just had a movie. Some Universal just did a press release. I'm doing my first movie. I'm executive producer. Yeah, I'm about to ask you about that. Right?

So we're doing this shit called Fight Night. It's the biggest heist in Georgia history. 1971, the backdrop was the Ali-Corey fight when he was coming off the draft dog and shit, when Muhammad Ali was coming off the draft dog and shit, right? So the day the shit came out, all my niggas, GZ, Kevin, all my niggas calling me,

yo, congratulations. And of course, in the conversation, like, yeah, everybody from Atlanta is in this motherfucking movie, right? So two days later, I go to CIAA, and I get this call from this A60 number, right? This motherfucker called me 13 times. From the time I left my room down the elevator, I'm going to meet my

BMW client. Next thing I know, I said, let me answer this motherfucker. It must be an emergency, but it's a Dominican number. It's Haitian Jack, right? And I'm like, hey, what's up, nigga? I ain't talked to you in a decade. I thought you was dead. Nuh-uh, nigga, I'm alive and well, man. I'm calling you

about this problem you in Dallas, Austin got. I'm alive and well now calling you cuz about this problem You and Dallas Austin got I said, oh gee you call me about another nigga. You know saying like no no no no no He just said did you know the movie shit cuz I heard about the script 15 years ago from Dallas Austin, right? So when I moved to New York to LA to launch revolt I took all the ideas I ever heard of and I wanted to do film and television because I'm fucking launching Revolt TV, right? So the shit ain't, it laid dormant for like four years, but then it came an opportunity. I'm in first class with Will Pack.

I said, yo, I got this motherfucking movie. I'm telling you, this will take you and your shit to the whole next, you know what I mean? This could be your Harlem Nights. If you don't know what Harlem Nights is, Harlem Nights is the movie with Richard Pryor. They don't know. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm like, this could be your shit. So long story short, I get this call. I'm like, hi, why are you calling me for this nigga? You know what I'm saying? Now, mind you, I know Jack. I was the young nigga, like he said, that all the wolves protected and loved because I was just a good nigga. I wasn't doing plays for no money, nigga. You needed to be fucking connected.

I'm connecting you because I believe that you better than what's going on. You know what I'm talking about? That's me. And so I'm having this conversation. I couldn't believe that this man had. So my point is to what you're saying, you got to motherfucking put people around you no matter what the circumstances are that you feel comfortable with. I felt comfortable around that nigga. And that call turned into him talking about his documentary, not with the nigga called him about because I got to respect

You know time out so what he's saying is true And you can't be looking down on a motherfucker because of a pass good niggas do dumb shit Good niggas do shit and fuck up and and need some Do shit sometime that they have to do and him showing his man love showed him the irony of it all nigga look I did seven years and they got did all the dumb shit you talking about doing Him showing his man love showed him the irony of it all. Nigga, look. I did seven years, nigga. I did all the dumb shit you talking about doing. Look at this shit around you. This shit ain't got nothing to do with pistols and fucking gangsta shit.

It's bitches. It's weed. It's fucking liquor. We having a great time. And he thought about that shit. That nigga over there thought about, okay, cool. I can play my position and I can work my... D-Rock, nigga.

D-Rock took the motherfucking case for big. Because he believed D-Rock would never have to do nothing stressful his entire life. Because of that motherfucking one instance. You understand what I'm saying? So I believe in that. And that's why I'm telling you, stay true to that and teach niggas that don't know no better. Because niggas, we ain't know no better. Until a motherfucker brought me to an apartment on motherfucking West 83rd Street and had the whole fucking top floor with basquiat and drivers and shit.

It taught me about art. And you ain't got to be in the street and you can do things. So it only takes one motherfucker to change your life. One. Give him. One. One. One. Give us one. One. One. One. One.

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Am I drinking? I would be like a bad reporter, quote unquote, if I don't ask this. Or if I don't give a suggestion. Yeah. Then they can put his Barbara Walters on there. Me as the... I like that. 60 minutes. No, because you know why

me as you know, quote unquote, being a legend or OG or whatever. Ain't no quote unquote. You're a legend. You're more of an OG still. Is're a legend. You're a motherfucker OG still. Is there a way we can put the drama behind,

even though I know that y'all both publicly say that there is no drama. No, until recently, I seen him do a Breakfast Club interview where he actually, he did say there was. You talking about Troy Ad? No, no. We talking about. Fuck Troy Ad. Okay. Whoa. Okay. Wasn't ready Ab? No. Who? No. We talking about... Fuck Troy Ab. Okay.

Whoa. Okay. Wasn't ready for that one. He a rat. All right. He a rat. Who you talking about? Fuck that.

Before he finish, and this is what I'm trying to tell you about motherfuckers that do what they do, rap, and then go back. Can't be both. So now, Do what they do rap And then go back oh can't be both so now Even with Troy. Yeah, he wasn't doing what the fuck you were doing anyway

You create a Fasana character a character like how you said you a dope boy Oh powder whipper Powder powder. That's it. Oh, powder whipper. Powder. Powder. That's it, little Alec. Powder. But then you saying middle finger from the stand. I don't give a fuck

about nobody but my fam. Cool. We got family. We got family. We got, we have significant others that we love, right? Every time I go out,

I'm with my girl. If I'm not with her, I'm out of state, whatever the case may be. Before I go down, it's kind of like a little speech. Every time, it's like, baby, go to the car. Go here. Right. And it's like how you said with the hand signs it's like that was me my girl it's like it's like you know I'm saying so when I say that I say that to say this when you create that character like

you built like that I'm not telling you to not be built like that but I'm telling you hold it down hold it down hold it down don't fuck us up cuz now we confused because the confusion coming when it's like powder, then it's like, nigga, fuck the streets. The streets ain't show me no love. You dumb motherfucker, if you was really putting that work in, you woulda knew the streets don't love you. You know what I'm saying?

The real niggas know the streets don't love them. You know why? Because they went through the struggle before rap. So it's the understanding we ain't get there because they went through the struggle before rap so to understand we went through that before rap even you you saying a lot of street niggas but when you around on the street niggas you'd be like damn that nigga mama ain't helping that nigga i gotta send him money why he ain't ask his mom what happened to shorty he had at the club with him show you was bad she not gonna send the money for so you understand that before rack oh now you notice the streets don't love you now

you saying middle finger from the stand I don't give a fuck about nobody from but my fan but guess what I feel like that now so instead of you provoking me to do something that's going to make me leave my daughter that know what's going on around the joint, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't there to see my daughter born. My baby moms cried.

Baby shower, I'm on the phone, on a 15-minute call. When you're on a 15-minute call and the conversation don't end, I'm like, yo, who had the baby shower yo my niggas pulled up yo my mom there and she's like nah your mom none of your family here but your friends here and you're like none of them not my mom not my father not nobody nobody there and she's like no nobody here But your friends is here. But none of my family there, though. My sister, my brother.

Nobody's not there. She's like, no, they're not there, baby. But she's not trying to stress you out. Because she knows you ready to TSO the whole jail. You ready to punch somebody in the face. And it's 1030 and the phone is on full. You got one second. And you're like, yo, baby, I love you.

Yo, nobody there, though, right? Cool. And you got like Yo baby I love you Yo Nobody did alright Cool And you gotta sleep With that at night To the next call You gotta sleep With that

Until seven in the morning Eight in the morning It's a different Kind of drive You know what I'm saying It's a different Kind of drive And with all my niggas

I be telling them Yo listen Stay sucker free because this shit will fuck you up. You create an image. I don't need to create an image. You know why? Because I did that.

I'm trying to create a different image. You know how long it took me to be around people that possess wealth? Like, just around regular niggas, street niggas, not industry niggas, not niggas with millions. Just niggas with enough money to make shit happen. It took me a long time. I had to get all the dudes. I had to get the condo, the cars, the foreign, so niggas would be like, nah, maybe he ain't going to get us.

He chilling. He good. He good. He good. He got the same shit. One of us. You know what I'm saying? I went and got the white gold sky dweller to prove a point. Because it was like, nigga was like, it's only one nigga.

I saw some Instagram shit one day. I'm just chilling. White gold. What is that? That's 40? No, it was somebody. It was somebody. A street nigga.

40 got one. No, 40. Oh, yeah. No, it was somebody with somebody in a street 40 got no 40 Yeah, no, no hell no. What's why go I bought it from Rolly that shit about 62 don't die my shit 44 years like 44 I thought it for the law. No, I'm paid. Yeah, nice. Oh matter fact you right? Yes Nah, no. I paid. You had ice in it? Oh, matter of fact, you're right. Yeah, it's 44. You're right. I'm sorry. Because I didn't get that one. I got the present from Roley.

Yeah. I got it from Dave Blaine. Oh, okay. And he taxed me. I paid like 51. He taxed me. Thank you for that. After this shit, I'm going to call him.

44. No real talk? Real nigga shit. It's just like, I feel like, even with Troy, I feel like it don't matter if you're telling him none of that. That don't got nothing to do with me. My thing is, don't mislead the people. Don't say the streets ain't for nobody.

Once you cross that gun line You in there you stood it up. You got your vest on you got your head gear. You got everything this shit ain't for nobody It's been not for nobody don't say powder like you a drug dealer like you in the streets And then when they get hot you saying this shit ain't for me this you can't quit that's what i'm trying to say there's no game over you can't drop the controller you gotta play this game until it finishes and that's what niggas is doing now niggas is misleading the people it don't matter how much I punch you in your face, knock your teeth out, or motherfucking don't run,

or whatever, I say all the time, every interview, this shit is not the life. The street life is not the life. It's no ending. That's why we see the rappers, we see whoever's successful, and we be like, yo, I wanna be like them. Big Meech said in his book I read that shit

like 80 motherfucking times he has so much money but he's like yo I need to clean this shit up I can't even buy a fucking a fucking

I can't even buy a jury without worrying about the police all that shit you can have all the money in the world I came to buy jewelry without worrying about the police. All that shit, you can have all the money in the world, but you need some legitimacy. You need it. You need it. I don't give a fuck how much money you have. You get tired of putting the car in your bitch name or a bitch you don't even know name because your mama don't want to put it in her name.

You know what I'm saying? Because she's a nigga. I can't her name You know what I'm saying Nigga Nigga you saying You getting a race They not coming for me I deal with a Panamanian mom My mom telling me off the joint She don't wanna go to Panama

Are you crazy Are you Are you crazy You trying to send me to jail No way Crazy? Are you? That's what it is. Are you crazy? You trying to send me to jail? No way. You know what I'm saying? So when you're dealing with that and you get out of that,

you cherish this shit so much. So because what the street niggas do it for? We do it for this. Okay. Do it for the clothes. We do it for the hose. We do it for the cars, for this okay do it for the clothes we do it for the for the hoes right we do it for the cars the cribs everything's the respect so now when you're a rapper do we take You get all that shit for free Me being the OG quote-unquote legend. Whatever. Give me a line before all of that Me and me saying that the people that's in control of my city right now. Uh-huh

That's that Cuban I bought you when you're Cuban that when you're Cuban that you ain't smoking your Cuban Stop that it's too late. You got a long night to it. Let me see the name of that shit. No, no, he is the one who brought it up. He brought it up. I know. He got in. I ain't bring shit. I'm an all-yarn nigga. I'm on peace. I'm on 5%.

That doesn't matter. You got a new deal. I don't know. I don't know if I'm supposed to say it. Give him feelings. Give him feelings. Listen, Cass. No, Cass, as an OG, I guess I have to actually ask

this question, right? And that's two people who's, I have to actually ask this question, right? And that's two people who's... I have to look at the younger generation, and I have to, you know, sit there. And I got to watch y'all do what y'all think, because it's y'all time. My time has came and went. I can still make music.

I will still... But I'm going to stay in my motherfucking lane. I ain't going to be, you know what I mean, bobbing and swinging. I ain't doing that other shit. What they doing now? You ain't got no dance moves. I ain't doing none of that, I mean bobbing and swinging. I ain't doing that other shit'all and say, damn, they got the flag. What would it take?

Not for Kaz and Tekashi to maybe even squash the beat, but maybe for y'all to live cordial. Yo, let me tell you something. Yeah. We living cordially. Maybe because you in Miami, not in New York yeah but I got banana we live it we live in cordially you know why because again my life is so precious to me now and again we got families so when my daughter do stuff like musically videos and i'm creeping on her musically on a fake page and i see her doing that dance and you and you thinking i always put myself in everybody's shoes. Like, how he's talking to me,

I put myself in his shoes. I just, like, kind of do that. That's the thing that I do. I put myself

in everybody's shoes. A million. Around me, a friend, an enemy, everything, I put myself in everybody's shoes.

When I put that, put myself in her shoes, and I thought about my visits, like, jail visits, you know, shackled up from the box, Upstate box, when you come down shackled up.

And I think to myself, do I want to understand what is musically in her doing that dance? From behind bars? Oh, god damn. It gives me, like, strength to be like you growing up Even start to misunderstanding is the misunderstanding is because it We looking at two young Brooklyn dudes coming up and we would love for y'all to get along right like this is your saying this people outside

New York you're both from New York, you're both from Brooklyn. You're both hot. We're figuring most people say you can coexist. The coexistence is there. He's existing, I'm existing. My thing is again, it's like

it's internet shit. When I say internet shit, this is what I said on my interview. And this is real shit. It's just every nigga that I beef with is no longer here. And this is not like I murdered them or whatever. Somebody took them out of a default, however it is. It just catches up. Like, you know I'm saying when you got so much beef I used to be for niggas that had a lot of beef that motherfucking was just real niggas

You know I'm saying hey somebody did the job for me, and I was just happy like shit Ain't got to worry about that nigga no more. You know I'm saying but when you're dealing with Real nigga shit is like I don't have no beef because if I had real beef it I can't concentrate I'm scared like I say it all the time. I'm assuming they may say cat has a hoolie No, I was scared in Jerry. Yeah, we in jail and they just be like yo listen. What's your pen them? I'm scared. Oh shit I'm popping quality. That's old squad. They got out of here I'm popping into the fucking squad come and escort me out of this shit cuz I'm not leaving this shit without beating this nigga ass

Asap Rocky and tell you just like he said nigga he came in. I told her they got say oh I'm about to take this crib. I'm gonna take this shit over. I'm watching I'm seeing who run the shit Nigga boss a nigga right upside the head with the motherfucking What's that the knob remember the knob used to get to turn the windows in jail the metal job? Yeah, yeah I'm busting up. I already know what's going on my head. I'm not gangsta, but you will not play me You know I'm saying so us at the end of the day I don't think there's no beef because I would have been hunting for him I don't know and I would have been on his body but he a little kid you got to understand what I understood when

I understood after his Breakfast Club interview is he working he's working however motherfucker choose to work, a motherfucker is working. You know, it gets you mad, you be like, yo, what the fuck is he doing? You know what I'm saying?

Motherfucker, but he working. You got to understand that. He's working, he might be working a different way, we know how. But all these fucking

little niggas is fucking doing dumb shit. And you be like, I would never do that. They selling more than me. They selling more than you. So like shit, just because I don't want to get down with it, I kind of understand like shit. He's selling.

You know what I'm saying? I don't know what the fuck is going on but it ain't no beef it ain't no beef i don't got no beef anybody i got beef with i'm handling it don't mean i'm doing nothing bad to them but i'm i'm gonna step to the plate and i'm gonna put that work in i'm gonna knock a teat out guarantee that i could fight i could fight i could fight i'm not gonna teat out and motherfuckers be thinking because whatever the case would be, do your thing, you know what I'm saying? I'm not worried about none of that.

I'm in my own realm, when you in your own lane, and you just thinking of the prize, nothing can interfere with that. Because like I said, nigga got five records, whatever he said on the billboard. You know how much I wish I had one working on the billboard Street nigga billboard so I could talk my shit I can't talk my shit when you can't talk your shit. You got a chill you got a chill

That's it. He talked to me shit. I got a chill Can he beat me in a fight? No. No. I think he know that. You know what I'm saying? I think what he's saying is true. Can he beat me in a fight? No. He can't say shit.

You got five songs on Billboard. Do he want to go to jail with me? No. You know what I'm saying? You're not going back. You're not going back. No, but I'm just trying to say. Give it up for not going back.

I'm not going back. I'm not going back. But let it be known, I still pay my dues. I feed the wolves. I send my $100 out every week to all that niggas in jail, all the apes in jail. I send my shit out. You know what I'm saying? So, again, do you want to be for me in jail?

No. I control the jail still. That nigga in jail. So when I go to jail, you know, I still call drink still I'm that nigga in jail So when I go to jail, you know, I still call drink champs up. I still hit you up like yo, what's going on? I need I need that jacket I can still do that. But my thing is do I want to do that? No, so again you can't You can't let again Shout out to tax stone. I was about to say that.

Shout out to Tac Stone. One of the kings of podcast. You know what I'm saying? Tac Stone. We miss you out here. We miss you. Tac Stone told me something that was really a key to my fucking freedom. He said, yo, Cass, don't let nobody do to you what I was doing to them.

I said what the fuck you talking about? What you mean? What you said. Tax was a gangster trope. Tax will wake up and see something and just go in on it. I'm just talking about some random shit. Tax will wake up and see something and just go in on it. I'm just talking about some random shit. And he'll just wake up and be like, fuck that nigga.

That nigga pussy. You ain't see that nigga ain't hit that nigga that hard. I'm like, yo, but he hit him. Fuck him. He don't have no problem with him. No problem. Tax will be like, I ain't got no beef with that nigga. That nigga swung real soft.

That shit wasn't really hard. And when he telling me that, because I love Tax so much. Shout out to Tax again. I love Tax so much that whatever he say, I listen to. And he told me, Cass, I'm in jail. I'm banking on you. He say, yo, the way this shit set up, I'm going to come home when they got AIDS patients for kids. So I start thinking about it.

AIDS patients for kids. I'm like, shit, if you get born with AIDS, then you got to get dealt with. So I'm thinking like, damn, they ain't doing that shit yet. They might do that shit in 2040. When he said that, it hurt me. Because whatever is around them, again, and this is what I'm trying to tell you with sucker niggas. What sucker niggas is, they need a way out. If it's true, if it's not true, if it's anything about them, they need a way out.

They need Sammy the Bull, sucker. He did a million crimes. He might have did the crime that motherfuckers was charged for, but he's just telling on anything. I'm telling a nigga, this Deleon right here, nigga. This nigga brought that shit here. He didn't have the reason to tell. You didn't bring that there. He took the first reason.

You didn't bring that there at all, but you're going to tell because you're not built like that. And again, to all the rappers, to all the young kids that's out there, once you be successful, know your worth. You're worth more than a jail cell. You don't have to be gangster. You don't have to be a hooligan. You don't have to be nothing because it's motherfucking Big Sean's and motherfucking drinks but whoever that's fucking in a lane and they great and they just successful you don't have to sell your soul to be something you're not because when you something not you gotta really back that

up do you want to back that up do you you want to go to jail? Do you want to go to jail? It's just like anybody. I think about jail so much. I think about jail during sex. That's what's been fucked up. Yo, during sex. God damn it. Commercial break.

Yo. Commercial break. That deserves Tiger Bone by itself. Yo, I swear to God. Yo, Nori. During sex. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about, yo, this might be the last pussy I get.

Like, like, you thinking like this. Damn. Yo, like, because. Only one drink. No, drink, drink, drink. No, it just. No, that makes sense. That makes sense. It really, gel really fucks up your whole movement.

It fucks up your whole movement. It fucks up your whole movement. When you hear certain stuff, when you see certain stuff, you just be like, yo, niggas wouldn't do that in jail. Yo, pick up your pants, homie. Like, you say certain shit that niggas in the street be like, what? Yeah. Right. Niggas be like, yo, pick up your pants, nigga.

Yo, that's some shit that niggas want to get fucked in jail. Niggas do that. And niggas be like why you saying that like we sagging this is shit we do in the street but me out picking up my pants I'm like the fuck is going on and you moving a certain way

and again just not to talk too much it's just like I feel like everybody that's rapping should understand the image you create is the image you're going to have to deal with. No, no, no. K-Rus1 said this in the 80s. He said, watch what you say because you're attractive.

Yep. 80s. He said, watch what you say because you're attractive. No matter what you say, if you're going to claim you a crip, the crip is going to come out to see you. You're going to claim you're drinking French fucking wine and champagne, couvert and all this shit. Those people who like

that is going to come out to see you. Very. They're going to come out to see you. Your topic of discussion is going to be different, though. It's going to be different when you amass a certain amount of success, when you travel the world, when you experience... My conversation should be different after I talk to you. Yeah.

So now, what's next for Kenny Burns? You're going to be married, nigga. After you finish talking to me. What's next for Kenny Burns? It's coming. Early. The real life. What you said now? What's next for Kenny Burns? He's coming. Early. Real life. What you said now?

What's next for Kenny Burns? So, and this is one you're in love with. She like you. Give me my gun. Give me my gun. Give me my gun. It's all love with me. It's all love with me.

Real talk. But what's next for me is family business, man. You know, the one thing. You got the movie. You got the whiskey out. Yeah, yeah. But what's next for me is family business, man. You know, the one thing. You got the movie. You got the whiskey out. But family business. My son, 13, started a clothing line called Be RNS. Got that.

Called Be Real, Never Sell Out. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Look, you touched my heart again. No, real talk. No, this is what I explain to my niggas. It's just like, once you're, once you're lit and once you are rich or wealthy or have you on a,

or once you see the vision, your kids is good, your grandkids is good. You gotta make it generational. But that's what we gonna do that our parents didn't do for us. That's, and that's the point.

And that's, that's my goal. Unless we EFA, we finally realize that his dick work. Hey! God bless you. God bless you. We got some pussy. We got, yeah, you got a baby on the way. You got a baby on the way. We finally realized his dick work Baby shower I still not sure

Selfless thing you can do. Absolutely. And that's why the thing you're asking me, it's about family. Because I made it through all the shootouts and the dumb shit and the trap. You know, I made it through. And to be here at 75. What are you talking about? We've been all at it. Yeah, I know. I mean, every legendary gangster you've heard of, you know what I'm saying,

the last two decades was my homies. Looked out for me. you know what I'm saying? And even going back to... Feed the wolves. You have to, you have to. Because this game don't exist without them. It's too much moving around in uncomfortable spaces for you not to be comfortable.

You got to be comfortable. You can't, motherfucker, reject your art and, motherfucker, put your special... No, but I'm saying you can't... You can't, you can't... Hallelujah! But you can't be who you were meant to be. You can't get what you came for without honoring everybody along the way.

Shout out to my apes. Yeah, real talk. But see, that's in the family business. It's a great thing. A lot of people think it's like your payouts. But what you can do is you just put somebody in position. That's all they want. I mean, he was saying that.

He's not saying that Selly is his own friend. It's showing love in different ways. That's all they want. I mean he was saying that he's not saying this Oh, yeah You have to My thing is I talk a lot. So when you paint When you paint in the picture some people don't see it Some people not gonna be there and that's the people you prove wrong you know I'm saying when I said I was rapping a lot of people didn't believe me like it was like you know I'm saying there's some people I ran into the club yeah I remember I was in LA so my song was like

four weeks old this is the they try to book you for their watch no no this is this dude that was before when I was a movie what's on don't run anybody getting shot same shit right you know I'm saying you know what and don't run is not the same record no yeah it's same shit but I'm talking about this is where um I was just getting on and my man's just like yo, what are you doing? I'm like, you know fuck that I'm sending DJ Two bottles. I'm ordering 10 and so I'm gonna go open that shit I'm on his ass soon as he open the shit. I'm like, oh my god Oh in the bottle because that's like putting that for to your marriage. Yeah, you're in

You ain't you know, that's my record. I'm like yo, yo, I'm a cameo I had the flash drive. I put it in flash. I go. yo, that's my record. I'm like, yo, yo, play my record. Play my record. I had the flash drive. I put it in. Flash drive, yo, yeah, that's me. Don't run. Yeah, put it on. He's like, yo, it's everybody in the building.

At the time, I think Meek was there. You had to have that record on. Play my shit. It's the lead. I performed in LA. Free Meek Mill, by the way. Free Meek Mill. Free Meek Mill. I performed in LA like a nobody.

But everybody thought I was somebody. You know what I'm saying? And that's my shit. I feel like I could do anything. And you know, like we was talking in Soul House, I snuck on a powerhouse stage with no mic, no nothing. Like, the mic was off, and I told the DJ, he said, I'm about to play your song.

I said, oh you about to play my song? Alright cool, play it in 10 minutes. He didn't know, shout out to DJ Will, he didn't know, he put that song on and I snuck backstage, I rushed on the stage, grabbed the mic and performed with no sound. Everybody in Brooklyn at the Barclay thought I was performing they was like boom and I didn't know I was suspended off a power

so like when you when you want it just so get it. Like he said, you got to be selfish. Nobody can get in the way of your dreams. Your baby mothers, your fucking mother, whoever, because they can't see it yet. They can't. They can't see why you're going so hard for what you believe in until it's formed. Until they see the house. Until they see the cars. they see the cause to go here's what you were talking about I'm sorry I'm sorry that's like you know I'll plug when you like your plug I got this shit for 20 and then you're like I'll

break for 20 let me be like get the fuck out of here till you come and be like yo we are lit and you looking at all the bricks and you're like, we lit. And the nigga's like, yo, I'm sorry, man. You're like, you didn't believe me? You out of here. Move. You out of here. You didn't believe me.

I thought you believed me. You know what I'm saying? So long story short, what you're saying, what you're saying, back to what you're saying, I don't have no beef with nobody. I don't have no beef with no artists. Because New York, we need to squash all our beef so this is on the strip of new york up new york first of all is a motherfucking mecca if you disrespecting the whole city you know saying how can y'all grow you know what i'm talking about and this fucking fake internet beef for likes and all that shit man that shit gotta cease Yeah, that's very true. No, that's what they, listen, you can't really. The light game is fucking.

You can't, you can't, you can't. I feel like you can't cease it because this is how these niggas getting rich. You feel me? You can't cease it. They benefiting off of it. Yo. Yeah, but I don't want nobody to die. I lost too many legends because of the bullshit.

And a nigga like this having gone through what he been through. You ready? And to say what he saying. You ready for it? They can he been through. You ready? And to say what he's saying. You ready for it? They can get over it. You ready? Yeah. Somebody got to die.

If I go, you got to go. Somebody got to die. Let the gunshots blow. Somebody. Shit got to happen. It don't. Shit got to happen. And again, go through what you go through.

That's why I ain't never been in no jail preaching to be safe because you gotta somebody got to die but he's something you gotta catch that happen in order for people like us to be like I told you so oh we already did that. Oh. But this is why I did this. I'm going to say it right here. And you're my new project. We've been through that. We've been through that. You got to come to the house. Generationally. I'm going to show what I'm going to invite you to the house. Your generation.

My generation. He's absolutely right though. He's absolutely right. I ain't going to tell him y'all fucked up. He's fucked up, but he's absolutely right. Y'all got to come to the house. I'm going to show him some shit. He's right.

First of all, he's on the mend. The nigga's on the healing. He's in the middle of the healing process. He's four years out. He spent seven. So give him another three years. I promise you, he's the healing process. He's four years out. He spent seven. So give him another three years. I promise you, he going to be what he's meant to be. I promise you. Sis,

when y'all come to Atlanta, come over to the house. I'll bring my side joint. No, no, no. Bring her. No, no, no. Because guess what? Your topics about to change. Look, no, no. Because guess what? You don't make no man. Your topics about to change. You don't make no man.

We just going outside of that. Look, look. Look, you got to really look at it, though. Because you ain't seen nobody's face. I just saw it through the side eye. You go like, side joint? This nigga crazy. This nigga crazy.

That's a fact. Look. I can't hear you. Three years. This shit is recording. Three years watching up there. It's a whole other conversation. The crazy shit is,

with Nori, I was like, he was like, yo, you brought your girl here, right? First, he was like, yo, you didn't bring your girl. I was like, yeah, I didn't bring her because I thought it was some nigga shit, right? He's like, nah, we got our girls here.

Me, Fat Joe, I got my girl. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm going to bring her next time. I bring my girl. He ain't with the girl. I said, you made me bring my girl, and you ain't got your girl. What the fuck is that?

I said, sit your ass over there. Sit your ass over there. You're not going to believe me. I said, it's 2018, guys. You got my phone number. You're going to say it. I would have made him pull up. I would have made him wait somewhere else.

He don't play. He don't play about his girl and sit down again. Because you know what, Cass? I'm going to be honest. Go ahead. Because you're Panamanian, but you're like fake Latino. Let me tell you something. I'm going to be honest.

You're going to start embracing your Latino. You speak Spanish? You speak Spanish? Listen, in my mind, he speaks full Spanish. My father speaks fluent Spanish. My father speaks fluent Spanish. Listen, listen, listen. I'm going to be honest, Cass. This is the only Spanish he gets, man. My mother speaks fluent Spanish, man. Listen, listen, listen. I'm going to be honest, Cass. This is what you got to do.

This is what you got to do. You got to have one Panamanian dirty nigga with you, right? Like his version of Panamanian? His stick man. Oh, you Panamanian? He clean. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He a dirty nigga.

He a dirty nigga. Watch out. He a dirty nigga. I'm watching. He got the peace. Yeah, he speaks Panamanian? He got the peace, yes. Oh no, no, no, no. He a danger. He a danger. He a danger. He a danger. He a danger. He a danger. I'm watching. I'm watching. He got the peace. Yo, he speak Spanish?

He got the peace, yes. Oh! He got the peace. He got the peace. He got the peace. You know why? Because Panamanians are like a little bit Jamaican, Spanish. Who are the best?

There are thousands of them. No, no, no. I'm going to be honest. The Panamanians are Jamaican. They speak some Spanish. They speak some Spanish. They speak some Spanish. They speak Jamaican.

They speak some Spanish. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak Jamaican. They speak some past words. They speak some past words. Big Jamaicans are the smartest people. Big Jamaicans are the smartest people. Okay, so you already got them. I'm not going to lie. I would have looked over you, my brother. Niggas is really doing this shit today, B. You don't look, but you got to have one of them dum dum guys. You got the peace.

The peace don't count. You know the peace get everything. The swipe, B? Yes! Let's make some noise for the peace on the swipe. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace.

You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. You got to keep the peace. Shout out to Henera. Henera. Let me just tell you something. Shout out to Colón.

Let me just tell you something, guys, in case you don't know. Panama Reggaeton is actually the birthplace... The birthplace, can you pass me that? Panama is the birthplace of your name. It's the birthplace of my name. It's the birthplace of Panama. Panama Canal is the birthplace of my name. It's the birthplace of Panama Canal. Panama Canal is the first record I've ever recorded in my life. It was called Panama Canal?

It was called Panama Canal. Dope. Were you going as Noriega? Yes. Okay. Dope. So that was like 360. So I just want to sit here and thank Kenny Burns.

I feel like this is the drop right here. We can do a sit down. We can do a sit down. We can do a sit down, man. You ready? The first sit down drop. We wanted to do a two year anniversary special edition, so we brought the OG curator with the young god

of the new generation, and we put them together, and we made a motherfucking Panama Canal edition. That's right. We're drinking whiskey in this motherfucker. We drinking whiskey baby. We drinking whiskey. I'm embracing y'all.

I'm giving y'all a shot to change your life around. Cause of Nori. Nori sat down with me. He didn't know how much it meant to me Because I remember when I was a black sheep, but everything family friends and I got in the game Now when I see too much movies, I'll be like nah don't let that nigga around me But I'm letting you know courtesy of Nori, thank Nori not me

If y'all want a deal, come. I'ma give y'all a shot. If y'all fuck it up, y'all getting shot. Hey! Take a flip. Hey, hey, it's my same vinyl, man. Smell this. You already know.

Come on, we right here? Come on, come on, eat. Come over here. Because we don't got this shit. You ready? We'll do another drop. Hey, stop that, though. Stop that. You have been listening to the Drink Champs podcast. Drink Champs is a weekly podcast created by DJ EFN and NORE. And is produced by DJ EFN and NORE. Sound engineered by Hazardous Sounds.

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