Drink Champs - Episode 125 w/ Pras (of the Fugees)

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys sit down with founding member of the legendary, Grammy winning Fugees. Pras talks forming the group with Wyclef Jean, and Lauryn Hill, their legacy, and his current endeavors. Pras is also joined by Zoey Dollaz, Smitty, Steph Lecor, and Candice. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players. You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk facts.

It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be? Hopefully it's what it should be. This your boy N-O-R-E. What up?

It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drink Chance, motherfucking happy hour Make some noise! And first off, before we introduce our guests, which we always do I just want to take a time out to not only recognize where we at Which our people is Lowell's If you don't see the things that's on the table Then Lowell's is the best pre-rolled smoke things that's on the table, Lowell's is the best pre-rolled smoke in California,

in the world, which I'd like to say. And I also want to big up to the Revolt staff. We recently went to Global Spin Awards. The Global Spin Awards, yeah. And we really was... Shout out to Prez. Shout out to Prez, shout out to Ramon Duke, Shaheem Reed, Joe, everybody. And we really went. Shout out to Prez. Shout out to Prez. Shout out to Ramon Duke. Shaheem Reed.

Joel. Power Moves. Everybody. And we really, you know, went there and wanted to. We really was impressed with our team and was happy how they executed what they had to do. We wanted to be more involved. But I don't feel like that's like a complaint out of us. I feel like that was like, you know, bigging that up that, you know, we're proud to do that.

But with no further ado, when it comes to legendary groups, when it comes to the things that we said we want to start and we wanted to big up, we want to big up legends, we want to big up people who have over 10 years or more continue to do their game. The brother that we standing right now

to the left of us, not only a part of a legendary group, legendary movement on his own, legendary hits, legendary albums on their own. These guys are global. When you think of global acts. Bigger than hip hop. Bigger than hip hop. These guys have done everything. I think they sold 24 million records from a place called a booger basement somewhere down.

And they came and they blew and they just have never returned back. These guys are the epitome of what you call legendary. And right now to the left of me, I want everybody to stand up and make some noise for my man, Pryze! For the full team, god damn it! So Pryze, um... So before I start, I got some gifts.

Yes, and I see you, you're very Yes And I see you You're very rich I see you roll up in the Gulf What was that? Rafe? That's a Rafe? Okay, okay, okay Very rich No, but I'm a big, big

Watch collector Watch collector? Oh, shit Don't tell me you gave me No, I didn't give you a watch But But I brought you something

Because As a watch collector I like to just kind of like Get people on to So the next time I see you, because some people, I've gave people watches before and they don't appreciate it. Wow. As a connoisseur, you're

saying that. In case I'm going to throw that out there. In case you ever want to get me an automobile or something, I'm going to appreciate it. But I'm a big paddock collector. Paddock, that's the petite. I bought you an elbow. Wow. I got to also have a watch is right this is what you put your watch on you when you travel and it keeps clicking no it don't keep clicking but it protects the watch because some people like to put their watch in the socks that's a little so rich this is easy so let's make some noise him being rich that was some

rich thing and right here you don't mind i bought my own alkaline water and my organic juice because i don't drink so okay well we're trying to get some baba cool on the table here in l.a don't worry about it man yo but i'm but I'm not going to lie. This is the first time, like, I've seen, like, L.A. look like Miami right now. Like, you got, you, I see Smitty running around here. I see Zoe Dollaz. I see my homegirl. Zoe's in the building.

You bring the Haitians out. Yo, Haitians are hot. Big up little Haiti. You bring the Zoes. You tell the Zoes where to go. Stop by and say. You tell the Zoes where to go. That's what's up. That's what it is. That's what it is. Surprise. Like, you tell the shows where to go. Stop what I said. You tell the shows where to go. That's what it is.

That's what it is. So, Price, like, you know, being in this game, legendary, one of the things that I just saw was Vigo say they were, it's the most legendary three-man group ever, right? And immediately I thought of, first I thought of the food is obviously but then I thought of the locks right cuz I said damn three man who maybe they got a run with MC well technically I don't know if they're going back there for yeah I don't think they're going back that's what legend when you think

of the legendary three people group, Fugees have to be the number one group. Whether you say accolades or you say just, you know, what do you think? I can't talk about ourselves,

but I can tell you if you ask me who I think is the, to put us aside, I mean, obviously,

look, you know, what, Clef, Lauren, I mean obviously look, you know, what Clef, Lauren, I mean these amazing artists. But I never talk about myself, so it's weird for me to talk about, we did this, we did that. Yeah, we sold over 20 million records. Yeah, we did this, we did that. Don't worry, I'll pick you up. Don't worry about it. Yeah, keep it going. But for me, if you ask me who's my favorite three legendary... Hold on. Be careful, Fries.

Because I don't know where you're going to go with this. Let him be great for you. I'm going to let you be great. Where are you going with this? Who's your three men? Three persons. Three persons. Well, three mouths.

Yeah. I got to give it to Run DMC. Okay. But I don't agree with Run DMC because... Let me tell you why. Because you're thinking of two-man MCs? I think Run DMC should be a two-man. No, no, no.

Justin is as important as anybody else. As a matter of fact, God bless his soul. Rest in peace. When he passed away, Run DMC was never the same after that, bro. I 100% agree with you, but I just can't acknowledge Run DMC

as a three-man group. I can see why you say I acknowledge one DMC as a three man I can see why you say that I see you as like a two man with a guy in the back because J.M.S.J. never really talked like when you like when you compare

it to the Fugees or you compare it to Amigos or you compare but Dre to you was a part of N.W.A. right? and at first he was

really great talk though eventually I'm saying but he was a big he was a big extra public enemy this is a great conversation by the way this is a great talk though. Eventually, I'm saying, but- He was a big- He was a tremendous ex-Republic Enemy. This is a great conversation, by the way. This is a great conversation.

Here's the thing J Master's J brought, right? If you know the history of hip hop, before Run DMC, you got to remember how the hip hop all started. It started off, they were taking the break part of the R&B records, right? Right. Yep. And so you had Grandmaster Flash. They went all the costume and all that they had the band J Master J technically was

the band he brought that DJ element so he flipped a whole that b-boy style adidas no shoelace all black he shifted the whole bro listen it's very difficult to see one artist or group shift the culture I seen it now I seen Run DMC but I was a kid

but I seen that shit happen to us personally the Fugees when we did our first album cause we were stuck between

see in life you always either wanna be the first or the we were stuck between See in life You always either want to be the first Or the last You never want to be in the middle Are we talking rough house Columbia days? Rough house Columbia days So on the first album We were influenced by

Leaders of New School Bushnickens Basic vocab It was that Last move And we ain't got nothing to prove So we was on that vibe I'm sorry y'all I'm sorry y'all It's still a great album by the way It was that, ah. Last move. Last move. And we ain't got nothing to prove. So we was on that vibe, right?

I'm sorry, y'all. I apologize. Yeah, don't let the oldness come out of me. It's still a great album, by the way. Yeah, let's go. So when we did the first album, we were on that zone. So we were in the middle, right? So by the time we dropped, we getting towards the end of that cycle.

Right. And I'll never forget, man, when I knew we were shot in the head. Okay, shot in the head meaning? Not literally, but meaning like it felt like. Like it wasn't going to work? It felt like, yo, we were dead on arrival. Right. The first single.

I'm still not clear. The first single we put out. That was good? No, that's not good. Oh, not good. Oh, fuck. So I'm going to tell you a story. So we had the first single called Booth Bop, right? That's not good. Oh, not good. Oh, fuck. That's not good. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you a story.

Yeah. So, we had a first single called Booth Bop, right? And it was like, all this crazy shit, right? Wait, Booth Bop? Booth Bop. I've never heard of this one. Exactly. I thought it was the biggest smoochy fan in the whole world.

I'm telling you something. So, this is the very first album. So, remember Columbia? Remember this product manager named Ty'Ee Cyrus? I do remember the name, though. Noz. She was Noz's product manager. Okay.

So we, because we were Haitian, you know, they're like, yo, these Haitian kids got goats and all that. So we were like the stepchild. So Columbia never really gave us no love. But Noz, Illmatic, was like that kid in the building, like the greatest, right? So by default, Tyese has to deal with us and she's like I gotta deal with these kids and all that so we go to the radio station college radio station and we're going to play our single what single was this the bullfrog single okay so we sitting outside and there's an artist in the studio dropping his new single.

Is it Big Al? I'm going to tell you. Hold up, hold up. Damn. Because that's that whole... Right, right, right. You're in the zone. Yeah, okay, all right.

So I'm sitting there. It's me, Clef, and Lauren, and Tyrese, right? And this artist is talking about, yeah, you know, and then he played his record. Right. This artist is talking about yeah, you know, and then he played his record right when I heard the record I Looked at cliff I said Yo new movie and clear that mean with that It was your man Buckshot. Come follow me. Because you remember, he switched the whole thing back.

And then Nas came right after that with Illmatic. Right after that. So we was really aggressive. And everybody just slowed the shit down. Laid back. Biggie came in. All that shit, right? So we got this album we got to promote that's dated so the thing

so sorry because i want the fans to follow what you're saying when he's saying dated you're saying that this is music that you saw you recorded sonically it's not it's old it's old okay because the sound and the the the vibe just died and this is the first album we used to talk about? It's the first album. Okay, continue. But technically, when had you recorded? How long before it came out?

A year prior to that. Say your question one more time. No, I'm going back to what you're saying. How long did they record it? Well, we got, so things like this. We got signed

whatever year it was that we got signed and so that album didn't drop until like a year and a half, two years later. Which was normal back then. Which was normal back then. Now people just create and drop.

Right. So you got to remember, so now we're coming in the era of Snoop, 187, right? So we're coming in that whole, Naughty by Nature is kind of like starting to fade out a little. You see what I'm saying? And you guys are from New Jersey, so that was like a comparison at first, right? Was to Naughty by Nature, correct? I don't know. Because you guys are from New Jersey so that was that good comparison at first right was was to the order by nature correct I don't know you guys from Brooklyn Jersey I mean it was all of us in the area so it was us naughty Wow like 94 red man I'm lost to the underground Wow like FIFA so it was that whole type of that whole thing you know I'm saying but

we got caught out there so we were like like, yo. And the label was like, you guys are going to have to figure this shit out. Right. Like, if this shit doesn't work, this is rap for you guys. Right. So they're like, go promote this shit. So we knew the album was done. Knew that. So we were like, look, the only thing we got going for ourselves, we're going to put a motherfucking show on.

And that's what kept us alive was the show we know we had Lauren who could sing anything some gangster shit make it sound beautiful because auto-tune was not popular back then so back then when a person was a singer there was actually a real singer is that what you're getting to, bro? Is that what you're trying to say? I'm getting my Walter Pond crate on. She can say that. No, because it's true though.

Yeah, there was no auto tune back then. I mean, I don't know if it was better or not, but there was no auto tune. It was kind of like, you sing, you're off key, okay, sing until you back on key. You can or you can't? You can or you can't. So, but we knew she was that chick when it came to singing.

So, we had the band and we were just gripping the shoulders. And, you go ahead. No, no. Because that's so amazing. Like, I recognize, I know you personally, but I recognize you from off top from this interview, how humble you are. Right. But at the same time, do you know that this Fugees was probably that, that was like the greatest, like it was some of the greatest moments in hip hop

because of your transition. What I mean by that was, you had like the Queen of England bumping the Fugees at one point. You had like, you know, just people who just were supposed to denounce hip hop would say, I'm fucking with the Fugees. They would look, like y'all was almost not black, like at one point. It wasn't the queen. It wasn't the queen.

It was Princess Diana. No, I got it. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. But this is what I'm saying. You know how you get, you almost like, you get that famous where like certain people be like, they ain't black. Like, I'm bugging y'all? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like you get, certain people like they ain't black like i'm bugging y'all like you know

what i'm saying like you get certain people get like michael jackson people didn't look at michael jackson like he was a black guy we transcended but that's international music it became like then like you got the black ips that came after that but but the first people who were international success, in my opinion, my humble opinion, was you guys. Yeah. Without feeling like it sold out. Indeed, without feeling like it sold out at all. Which I think was a key thing.

Yeah, we were fortunate. We were very fortunate. I mean, the music just spoke to everyone. It wasn't just... And it was tough, because you know that gangster shit was poppin' back then. It was like, so you know, as an artist, you get caught up like, man, this is hot, and you're lovin' it, you know? You know, you see Pac doing his thing, Biggie,

and I used to run with Pac. So I used to be like, man. Talk about it. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, you went there, go ahead. Go ahead. So you used to run with Pac? That's my man. Okay.

Like, I knew, like, I mean, I was with him the night the choir thing happened. Oh. Yeah. Holy moly, Pacamole, I wasn't ready. I feel like you should have told me to sit down. I'm already sitting down, but I'm like, yeah. Yeah. So you were with Tupac.

Describe yours your spot of that So the day before that I was with Posse Park a lot of people don't know the most ingenious Person you ever meet and you know, I've been seeing people say they know parking all that maybe they do. I don't know But I'm one of those people I'm more about a I'm more about the mind right I like to see how people move strategically like especially like today when I'm seeing certain artists do certain things I see like one of the people I really respect is Drake because he moved like he's playing chess you know and Pac was like that. He was a masterful chess player. Let me tell you how ill this dude was.

One day, Pac calls me and he say, yo, come meet me at the spot. Pac was having a party at Roseland. Okay, Manhattan. Manhattan. Okay. And so, I'm going up there to pick him up. Pick Pac up.

Pick Pac up. Facts. He was on 127th Street, somewhere in Harlem, right? In New York. In New York City. Pac is a New York nigga, Harlem right in New York in New York is a New York nigga Let's be clear huh? Park is a New York. They call it a clear sorry La people So 127th Street I go to this building and I it's like this orange building right some my eye cool. It's the actual building

I walk in and I see this guy walking like... So I'm like, that's some weird shit. Cool. I get to the front desk, and it's like this girl sitting like this, like, can I help you? I'm like, yeah. You know, I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to act like I know this was happening, right? But I know it's some weird shit. I'm not understanding where I'm like, yeah, you know, I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to act like I know this was happening, right?

But I know it's some weird shit. I'm not understanding where I'm at. So I say, yeah, I'm here to see. Now, it wasn't under his name. It was under this chick he was staying with name, right? So whatever her name was. So I'm here to see such and such. And she's like, okay, you know, and she does her thing.

And so I go in the elevator and it's like this guy that's like. The fuck? I'm like, okay, you know, and she does her thing. And so I go in the elevator, and it's like, this guy is like, what the fuck? I'm like, what? I'm thinking to myself, what the fuck is this place I'm at, right? So I get to the apartment. Fuck my yo pocket, some weird shit going up in here, man. I see a motherfucker like this, going, dude, what the fuck, where I'm at? He said, oh, this is a mental retarded home. He said, my homegirl works here. So I said, yo, why the fuck where I'm at? He said, oh, this is a mental retarded home. He said, my homegirl works here.

So I said, yo, why the fuck you stay here? He said, prize, if niggas come for me, this is the last place they're going to think I'm at. No, but when you think about it, it's some brilliant shit. That's the last place. You ain't going to go to a mental home to look for a nigga. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying?

I definitely didn't guess who was into this. That was it. No, that's it. See, that's where that whole Machiavelli shit is on. Because you know what? I don't know if people know what Machiavelli is. Machiavelli faked his death, correct? Faked his death to see how his friends really thought about him.

He would go around and say, yo, what did you think about Machiavelli? Man, fuck that nigga. So he saw everybody that wasn't really rocking with him that act like they was rocking with him when he was alive. So that's where that whole, because Machiavelli was a philosopher. So Pac was heavy into that kind of shit. But yeah, so I was with him the night before that. I got a call from, not a call, at that time when he had pages, remember them pages? Pages, yep. Not the two ways. Before the two ways. Before the, way before the two ways.

Straight beeper. Yeah, yeah. Motorola. Straight beeper joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Motorola. I get a text from Wyclef. Mario Van Peeples had just finished doing this movie called Black Panther. Remember that movie, Black Panther? Oh, I don't know. From back then?

From back then. No, not the superhero movie. Black Panther? Oh, I know. From back then? From back then. No, not the superhero movie. Black Panther. The one that had the soundtrack. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, the soundtrack. Okay, all right. So he was a fan before we even blew up.

So he wanted us to do a track. So Clef was like, yo, you got to come to the studio now in Jersey, because we got to deliver this shit by tomorrow. We're going gonna make the soundtrack So I stole Park like yo, I can't go to the studio with you because he was going there to meet with Jimmy Remember little Sean. Yes, I do. So I'm going in and do a song with little Sean So I said yo magic get with you later So I went to Jersey Jersey. He went to have to get with you later. So I went to Jersey.

Jersey. He went to Quad. Wow. And then that whole shit went down. You know, there was another nigga that was there, too. Who was that other nigga? See, niggas don't even talk about the other nigga. That nigga got shot up, too.

Not Stretch? No, not Stretch. Okay. Another nigga. Who? I forget his name, but it was another nigga there. We got to remember his name. Yeah.

I call my man Haysen Jack. Haysen Jack can tell a the story better than I can Dominican public No, I'm Puerto Rico not too far No, I'm Puerto Rican, you know, I'm never not No, cuz I all my friends are Dominican. So I never you know, it's close to, and it's close to Haiti, and I'm cool with all my friends is Haitian. So it's just like, I just, I just, I just rep this shit. But yeah, Jackson's a Dominican probably.

Right. Because we get to see the Tupac movie, and we got to see that. I never saw it. You never seen the Tupac movie? No, how was it? You got to see it. Okay. One, you got to see it because it's history.

I've been meaning to see it. And two, you have to see it because there's different interpretations of people's lives. It's just like right now, for us, right? You come in, me and you, we see each other. I see you with the Cartier bracelets. Those are very expensive, by the way. I just want to throw that out there with no ice. Very expensive for my people.

So he walks in. But now there's certain people who can take this same interview and they can see a totally different thing they're not wrong it's their interpretation it's their interpretation like me and you can have the same view but you can have a different outlook so for people who really worried around or really didn't understand hip-hop I recommend you go and watch it you know it's like even the Biggie movie like a lot of people don't really salute the Biggie movie as much but I feel like you should I feel like I saw that I feel like the best movie is a comp straight out of the comp. Straight out of the comp. Yeah. That's what I think. But you know what? The reason I haven't seen it, I've been busy or whatever, but I felt like the pop, see

the thing is when people are trying to make black stories, they like to take this little cookie cutter and think like we can throw everything in this one. Like take this square peg and put it in a circle, right? Exactly. Can't do that. The comp thing worked perfectly for what it was. Because there's a lot of dynamics about it that made it work. Trade, Q, the success that they had.

It was a movement. That's still relevant now. Right. Pac, you're gonna make a story about Pac you can't do this you gotta go what makes him tick right that dude is a black panther to the core this dude red he studied so you gotta talk about the man and what made him tick because he was a very complex dude because one minute he's talking about this revolution and you know talking about black women and the next minute he's ready to go bust his guns

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wu-tang right now like um i was speaking to one of my great friends ray kwan and he's and he's like yo i think we um we're gonna do the wu-t. And I'm like, yo, I think I got to do a six-movie deal. Good. Like the way they did their real deal. But they did a new audition, but movie style. What I'm saying, the way they did their music deal, this is the way they should do their movie deal. ODB deserves a movie by themselves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Just think about that, Prize. You've encountered ODB. Just give us your old DB story. Alright, look, look, look, look. Let's make some noise for your face, Scott Jackson. You already know there's some beautiful shit about the cop gang.

You remember that studio, Enterprise? In LA. In LA, yeah. Yes. So... I did I'm Leavin' There. I recorded I'm Leavin' There. Oh, wow.

Yeah, Enterprise, yeah. So I'm leaving there. I recorded. I'm So I'm recording go superstar at the time My my my affronted on me I'm gonna tell you some fun, but I will tell you later I'll get your story out first. It's very moral point. Yeah So I'm in the studio. Mm-hmm, and I'm writing to this shit and this is the music explain the background and then O'Dirty come walking in with his crew but you invited O'Dirty correct? no I have never met him oh shit

wait wait time out stop so he wasn't supposed to be on the song originally then yo you gotta listen to this oh my god oh I didn't know what was going on let's go this is crazy

so O'Dirty come walking in the studio. Uh-huh. I'm like, oh, peace to the God. What's going on? Yeah, we good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he look at his man. Who these niggas in here?

Right? So I'm like. Man, just after you sold $28 million. I'm thinking like, that's my session, right? He's at your session. Yeah, yeah. So he thinking like, that's my session, right? A's at your session. Yeah, yeah. So he's asking who you are.

Right, right. So his man's like, I don't know. So his man goes to my role manager like, yo, what's this nigga doing in our session? So we're like, no, no, no, this is our session. And the whole dude's like, I hate when you keep doing this shit. You know, they keep fucking up my rooms. So I'm like, you need keep doing this shit. You know, they keep fucking up my rooms somebody

Enterprise you just walk straight in so I'm trying to figure out how he can be the fuck is he on to not know? He's in California not in New York, right? So we don't back and forth we're going back and forth and finally they realized oh We're in the wrong session in the wrong studio. I think he's supposed to be at record plant, right So as the nigga about to leave he goes What's that? Like was what he said, what's that music in the background?

So it was just the instrumental. He said, oh, it's some shit I'm working on. I'm going to get on that. So it was like, I'm thinking to myself, all right, well, you can't really, you can't get, like, Clef was like, man, he said this to me, he said, man, just let that nigga do all your bullshit and we're going to erase this shit this is what I did to you, this is my favorite part of the story, go ahead continue so he asked me what the record is about so I'm telling him, so he goes alright cool so we sitting there waiting for him to do his shit so music is playing in like 10 minutes. He's like I'm ready So now I see him writing anything. So I'm like

What the okay, so he goes in the studio and the beat is playing and all we hear is Yeah, so there's that So because is that And he goes And then he do that shit he does it in they said give me another track he's laying words but by pieces that's crazy on the fourth track it was everything that you hear currently right now so he did it backwards that's crazy it was gonna buy silver no so you know how I okay you do your vote first you lay your purse I know you do

First that's what I didn't know what he was doing That's always like yo, what the fuck on the four track is we lay the whole as your engineer experience engineer Have you ever heard a person lady doubles in the ad libs that riots are landing verse job never heard of it That's great. Like yo, it just fell in pocket like this Y'all rest in peace. Oh dirty mo west of peace. That's my old dirty story So, um, so now you guys this record comes out. It was obviously recorded that I don't want to say By accident, but like, you know Where's the Gutter Superstar? Gutter Superstar

That was accident Accident, accident On O' Dirty Park Cause I never, I knew Wu-Tang obviously and we did a couple shows with them in the past see But Wu-Tang and the Fugees, we didn't become cool to Yeah cause didn't y'all have like a problem? Yeah we had some beef Wu-Tang again

What happened? Yeah explain it I don't really know I just one one time, because, you know, back in the days, they used to just put artists together from different labels. I remember Akineli and ODB had beef and it was on a Fuji show, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was just some weird shit, man. You know, we had a band and we were trying to get into this place and, you know, Wu-Tang was super hot. We only had that Mona Lisa record. We were semi-hot, you know. But we had a band. People in my we were semi-hot, you know? And but we had a band, see the people in my band were ex-gangstas, right? So they felt like, man, fuck this shit, and Lou Tain rolled deep, you know, the Killer

Beats and all that, and it was just some riff happened, some bullshit, but obviously we became cool afterwards, right? So when Old Dirty Basta came in the session, I didn't know, I never met him prior to that. All right, wow. And then we just became cool. And that was for the soundtrack of that movie, right? Bullsworth? When Old Dirty Basta came in the session, I never met him prior to that. Wow. And then we just became cool. And that was for the soundtrack of that movie, right? Bullsworth? Bullsworth, yeah.

So how did Maya become a part of that record? So Jimmy Iovine, you know Jimmy Iovine. Of course, of course. Big up to him. Yeah, big up to Jimmy Iovine. He calls me and tells me that, because I was trying to get Monica or Brandy on the record. Oh wow. But they had that record, The Boy Is Mine.

On The Boy Is Mine with Brandy and Monica. Right, and Craig Cameron wasn't trying to clear Brandy. Craig Cameron at Atlantic Records, he's still with Atlantic Records, big and long. Yeah, big up to Craig. So, Jimmy calls me one day, I'll never forget this. Do you have an impression of Jimmy? You know, we're pros.

We love impressions of CEOs, please. It's a bad impression. But anyway, he goes, I got this incredible girl. I think she'd be great for the record. So he sent me, at that time it was CDs. He sent me a CD, FedExed me a CD. And I'm driving my Ferrari and I'm playing this girl and I'm like, I don't get it. Because it was R&B.

I don't really get, I didn't get that kind of R&B. R&B for me, I'm into the old school R&B. Gladys Knight night Marvin Gaye temptation temptation that's the army so that nouveau R&B at that time I didn't get it so but then my manager was like my manager used to manage Jimmy Iovine when he was a producer right before he started into school records cuz you might be was gonna sign a Fuji. That's how I know Jimmy I mean, they just said that mad nonchalant like come on. You got a blast

Oh, did he just say his manager used to manage Jimmy? So I was doing Jimmy started into school get the fuck cuz the food you don't win with you I'm getting so schooled right now. Like right now. I'm like I'm like this. I'm really enjoying this continue So so so because I have no idea this. Continue. So, so, so. Because I have no idea of this shit. Yeah, you know, Jimmy used to be a producer. I know that. I know that.

I seen Defiant once. Oh, I never seen that. On HBO. Oh, HBO, yeah. He used to be a producer. Okay. And so he started. And he was an engineer as well. He was an engineer.

Exactly. Then he started his label with Ted Philz. It wasn't Geffen? No, Ted Philz. Okay. Ted Philz was the billionaire guy. That's just CNN, no? No, no, no, that's Ted Turner.

Yeah, yeah, Ted Turner. Right. So anyway, so they started Interscope, and I think one of the first artists they signed was Pop. Yeah. So Jimmy wanted to sign the Fugees. That's why he signed Black Eyed Peas, too. Makes sense.

So we went with, I like Ruff House would have been The best choice for us So I made it Matter of fact They gave us the least amount of money Ruff House only gave us A buck twenty five Jimmy wanted to give us

Six hundred at that time Wow You talking about back when They weren't like You know what I'm saying So anyway So Jimmy Called me

And my manager David Steinberg Was like I think You should You may want to Put her on the ghetto superstar. She looks okay because if you put her on there, he's more opt to spend more money. Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

Because I said I can't get any one of those chicks anyway. Because it's either you get super hot chick or you get one of his artists so I put my own it and the rest is history like they say get up superstar sound just like her oh yeah you want me to hear the story my front on me it was so awesome like I like I like you know the crazy shit about me is I like getting front of the run. Like, I actually do. I'm going to be honest with you because I'm like, oh, that's hard. Like, I'm like, oh, that's hard.

So, look, let me just tell you what happened. Belly soundtrack. Belly soundtrack happens, right? So, I'm hot. Raekwon and me do a record. Please Google this record has right now. Maya featuring Nori and Ray Kwan. I have no idea what this record is.

I don't remember. But what it was, was the video got held up. So I go to the video. And they're like, Ray's not going to shoot his part. Moving out. Moving out. So the original was with Silk to Shaka, correct? Can you Google that part too?

Because I just want to make sure I'm on point. Silk to Shaka. Yeah, because the original was with Silk to Shaka. Is this the belly soundtrack? This is the belly soundtrack, my guy, right? So I'm talking about I'm platinum at the time. Like, you know, I'm the man platinum at the time like you know I'm the man so they hit me and the guy name was Hakeem Islam oh I know how first and

last name right so he comes to me and he's like and I'm the guy at the time so he's like yo I want you on you know the time. So, he's like, yo, I want you on, you know, this new Chick Myers record. So, I was like, I bet. I'm not sure if it was before Ghetto Superstar or not. But I just did it, right? And then I go to the actual video. When I go to the video, they're like, yo, we can't film the video right now. So, I'm like, yo, what's going on?

I had never knew that people actually charged that extra fee for a video, right? I didn't know this shit, right? Like your wake warning coming on set so he gets an extra such-and-such a bad You know, I don't remember what it was. But even if I did I wouldn't say so my old work and me I'm like, oh, word? And me, I'm the new humble kid. I don't even give a fuck. I'm just like, can we film? I want to leave. And I stood there. I didn't ask for no money.

I did. Ray Kwan stood his ground. Came, stood, and he explained to me. He said, listen, listen, my dude. You know, this is what we do. And I'm like, all right, cool. I'm the guy that actually did it. So a year later, I called and I was like,

yo, I want Maya on the record. And her kids, I'm sad. Yo, we not going in that direction right now. I was like, oh shit. I was like, yo, my nigga. And that's exactly how I reacted. I laughed in his face like, for real? Like, I'm the chosen one.

You're fucking up. This is the school. Game of five. And I just, yeah, I just, I never, and I blamed Amaya, but I never actually think it was her. I think it was Hakeem. Probably was Hakeem. You know what I mean? I don't know. It doesn't mean being petty.

It's all up and just throwing it out there. But it's the 100% the truth. Oh, Dirty did the same thing too. Forget the Superstar. Get out of here. So, so you- And when he asked for his bag, it's not, oh, send me a wire transfer. Cash.

Cash. That's how he came up with that record. Oh, baby. Baby, give me some money. Don't you worry. Dirty. I don't want to say her name. If you know who she is, I ain't going to say her name.

I don't want to say her name. I don't want to say her name. I don't want to say her name. I don't want to say her worry he told me i won't say her name if you know who she is i ain't gonna say her name but the label head at the time he was like i'm not doing it he said i'm not doing anything until i get a bag and that's how the record came about. Yo, he stayed getting back. We was on the set. He's like, I ain't shooting until you give me a back. Jimmy had to bring a back. Wow.

Cash. Yeah, I was so naive. And when I say back, I ain't talking about like 10 racks or anything like that. Like, a back. You know what I'm saying? They was getting, listen, I was so naive to that shit. Like, I just, I just wanted to connect with other artists.

Like, that was just cool. I was like, I definitely meant well. But Ray looked at me and was like, listen, young man. Young man, get that back.

Go get that. So now, you guys, right? What is the most shocking thing of the accolades that you guys ever had? Like, what was the most, like, wow, I did this. I can't believe that. What do you mean? Like, in your accomplishment.

Anything you did. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, did you get had with Bill Clinton one time? I don't know. I feel like you did. What, Bill Clinton? Yeah,'t know I feel like it is what bill clinton yeah I think the craziest thing was princess Diana let's break that down so I used to when we were in England because England so in in England at that time and I think we're still probably in the top three top four but we were second as far as like biggest selling

American artists behind Michael Jackson at that time right so I used to fuck around every time I go to England I'm doing some interview radio I'm shouting out Princess Diana like y'all want to run the video take out the dinner you know so the hotel I used to stay at is called Royal Garden, and the Buckingham Palace is literally across the lawn. And she used to come to the Royal Garden to work out, okay? I've never seen her, but people would say, oh, she comes here all the time, whatever, right? By herself type of, you know, just cool-ass shit, whatever.

So I'm shouting her out, whatever so i'm shouting her out shouting her out shouting her out and one day we did a concert i don't know spice girls was on that show but it was like a big type of stadium whatever and she came backstage because i was trying to get her to do a video she came you ain't had snap back then you would have had on snap but she came backstage yo and she gave me a nice little letter you know declining being on the um in the video but she like i'm a big fan i love that guy's music which i represent a whole refugee movement you know haiti and you know we're trying to do you know, you know, Haiti, and, you know, we're trying to do, you know, because, you know, England colonized Jamaica. Oh, so.

So she, you know, and she was like, well, you know, we always wanted to work with Haiti. French colonized Haiti. Haiti, right. Okay. She was like, we always wanted to work with Haiti, but we love what you're doing, and maybe sometime in the future I can go down to Haiti and visit. Right. Like, I'm just kicking it with her, and she gave me this letter. I'm like, God damn, this is Princess Diana. That's damn this princess Diana you know I was trying to kick it to her you

know like real subtle like I you know maybe you could give me your number but she came backstage and gave me a letter you know so I was excited for me that was dope I've seen recently Cardi B got a letter from Bono I guess that's what rich people do they write letters that's hard like that's hard yeah I didn't get a letter from Bono. I guess that's what rich people do. They write letters. That's hard. Like, that's hard. Yeah. I didn't get a letter from nobody, bro. So don't worry about it. I feel like this.

No, I got a couple of letters. I don't remember. I've just been so high in my career. But you know what it is? It's just, see, the thing is this. You got to remember, like, I grew up in an era where it was not cool to be Haitian. Like, I know niggas that used to act like they from Paris. Jamaica.

From Jamaica. Yeah. Or from fucking Montreal. But it was never Haiti. So I come from that era. Wow. And so to see that, yo, this music has gotten to the level where people having now different interests in Haiti and Haitians.

That's a beautiful thing, bro. That's, to me, that's my, because, bro, I remember when AIDS first came out, it was like it came from Haitians. You said, you said AIDS. Oh, I thought you said eggs. I was like, for real? That nigga's made AIDS? No, no, no.

AIDS. It came from a woman. It came from a Haitian woman. So, yeah, I remember as a kid, I'm seeing this. I'm like, yo, why? Oh, so you're saying that's the reason why when Cypher Sounds has said something, that's the reason why the Haitian community had went down on him. Oh, I didn't know that.

I didn't know what you just said. I didn't know they went down on Cypher Sounds. Yeah. But yeah, no, man, yo, listen, because, so you got to remember, there's a lot of Haitians right now that don't know the battlefields and the war, the struggle we went through. You know, like, and I've never denied me being Haitian, but see, I had an advantage because I was born here. And so growing up, my mom always gave me, like, the latest shit. So I would have the quarter bill remember the goose

You know I would have all that so I was very Americanized even though I had the Haitian culture with me So I wasn't one of them Haitian kids that couldn't go to school for like a month at a time Right it was the time and then you in Brooklyn. That's a whole Rasmus Hall all them different schools. You couldn't go so to see everybody on this Haitian vibe when the food just came to me that that meant because that's what I'm about like I'm about the culture you know okay it's beautiful right who don't want the accolades yeah you want the cars you want the money you want all that but I got all that I mean you know we after a while that doesn't become

important anymore you always want to get you know money and live a certain know, after a while, that doesn't become important anymore. You always want to get, you know, money and live a certain lifestyle. But after a while, you're like, but also we started at a very young age. Because my first money I made in the game, I was 14. I got $25,000 to do something stupid. Damn, I've been hustling wrong. This nigga got $25,000 at 14. God damn it. Make some noise. You know what I'm talking about? Go ahead. Continue. Continue. to do something stupid. Damn, I've been hustling wrong. This nigga got $25,000 at 14, goddammit.

Make some noise for him. Give him a fuck right here, my boy. Go ahead, continue. No, but so you know what I'm saying, too? So it's always, you know, our mission was, yo, we're going to do this for Haiti, for Haitians. That has always been from, that's why from jump, we let the world know we were Haitian.

It wasn't like after we popped off, oh, they happen to be Haitian. The whole theme was, that's what Fuji stands for. Refugees. You just take the, we just took the R-E-O. Meaning like we represent Haiti and everybody who feel like they're a refugee. Whether you're Jamaican, you're Puerto Rican, you're African,

whatever the fuck you claim, we representing that. So now, you did a documentary. What was the name of the documentary? Skid Row. Skid Row. It was actually named Skid Row?

Yeah. And I was, you know, talking to a couple of brothers earlier and I was like, yo, did you guys see the... And they thought that this was a myth. They don't think that this is real. No, it's real.

Explain this documentary for the people who don't know so my man funny nods was supposed what my man was talking to nods to do this so basically in California there's a session called skid row downtown LA yes it's the highest population of homelessness in America so in a 10 12 block there's about 40,000 people that live on the streets. In a 10 block radius, 40,000?

40,000. It's been like that for a very long time. Well, they're trying to push them out now because they're building downtown LA Live, all that, right?

So I remember when I did the documentary, there were no LA Live. Right. Now what is LA Live? That's like a club? No, LA Live, the area where you got a stadium center in downtown LA. It's called LA Live? Right. Now, what is LA Live? That's like a club? No, LA Live, the area where you got

Staples Center and downtown LA. That's called LA Live? Yeah, with the movie theaters. You know, they just cleaned it up. Okay. Continue, bro. So, my man comes to me and said, yo, I was trying to get Nas to do this documentary.

I said, what is it? Basically, he wanted to do a social experiment. You go live downtown on the streets for 10 days straight. No access to phones, nothing. You go live downtown on the streets for 10 days straight. No access to phones, nothing. You just got to survive. You get $10, you got to figure this shit out. $10 a day or $10 for the whole?

No, $10 for the whole duration. $1 a day. Right? So I was like, fuck it, let me do it. So what they had to do... You didn't just say, fuck it, let me do it. You had to think about this. For real? Come on. Bro, wait. Come on, Pryze. You didn't just say, fuck it, let me do it. You had to think about this. Nah, I was just like... For real?

Like, come on. But, bro, listen. Pryze, you ate caviar before. Hey, my dude, let me say something. Let me ask you something. I've been kidnapped in Somalia. In Angola? I've been in North Korea.

Where you through Angola? I've been to Iraq. It's Angola. They kidnapped you in Angola. No, but in Somalia, I got kidnapped by the pirates. This is not Rakimio, right? This is not the promoter, Rakimio. Who's that?

That's a promoter. He's from Angola. No, I said Somalia. Oh, okay. I'm just thinking. That's Africa, right? Yeah. Yeah, you know Somalia.

Black Hawk Down. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Black Hawk Down, Captain Phillips. You know those guys in Captain Phillips? Don't tell me you was down. I interviewed one of them. Keep the fuck out of it. No bullshit. I mean, the real one is the real one. Come on, man. I interviewed Captain Phillips don't tell me he's like I interview one of them keep the fuck out no bullshit

I mean the real ones the real one come on I interviewed two of them well one of them I knew but it was two of them together well I was supposed to go with them that day to just shoot them how they go do they shit and that's the day they hijacked the ship Captain Phillips Again for that this nigga prizes Yeah, so anyway what the fuck was I saying Captain Phillips in the kidnapping

No, we were talking about something else before that. And Somalia, you were saying. No, before I got, before I said I got kidnapped. No, you're going about the movie. Oh, Skid Row. So anyway, so Skid Row, I went downtown. I had a hidden camera on me because you can't have cameras in Skid Row. They will murder you. Can you explain why you can't have cameras?

Because people feel like you're trying to exploit them and use them as a guinea pig Right, so I had to immerse myself in that world and mentally deranged people right to build well Well, they're not really the range, but that's a whole different thing So I had a hidden camera on me and we had cameras two cameras in the van To shoot from the van so you can hear what I'm saying You can see from the hidden camera and then you had the vans to give you the different angles I slept on the sidewalk so you can hear what I'm saying. You can see it from the hidden camera. And then you had the vans that give you different angles. I slept on the sidewalk for 10 days straight.

It rained. Rats came in my tent. I begged for money. I defecated on the sidewalk. It was pure trying to survive as a human being. Because I had access to nothing. 10 days straight. That must have changed you.

I've never been speechless like this before. It literally changed. You know why it changed my life? So when you're homeless, right? So what's interesting when you look at the stats. Please remember your thought, but I just want people to understand that this was your choice. Yeah, this was my choice.

Okay. Yeah. Please. It was my choice, you know, as a social experiment. Right. So, only 25 to 30%

of the people who are homeless are what they call chronical homeless, meaning that they need some form of help or assistance from the government or from mental institution. 25 to 30%. The 70% are regular folks like us who just lost their job, don't have a family member to go to or whatever, and they go down there to just try to figure the situation out. Those numbers are staggering because you would think it's 70% more.

Or mentally ill. Right. Right. Right. So anyway, but what, the part that changed my life, so once I got down there, I had to figure out what my hustle was going to be because obviously I can't survive until now, right? Right.

So people have different hustles. Some of them, they, they go collect pallets. You know, them things that they put. With the wood. You know, the pallet. The wood that. You don't know what a pallet is. The wood that you put products on when a machine goes pick up

and trucks that put in the you don't know what a pallet is. They put it in containers. That's what they ship stuff on. I was into shooting so I don't know what the hell that is. I'm sorry.

Let's keep going. Alright, anyway. Go ahead. You get $10 for every pallet you bring back to the warehouse. Right? The big wood thing. So you're recycling pallets.

Or you can go get cans I had a familiar right I had a tent you could rent out your tent I didn't want homeless motherfuckers living in my tent right I was still calling bougie even though I was homeless right so I decided the best It's a private tent, motherfucker. It's a private tent. Fuck that, right? No selling that. It's a sweet tent. So I decided the best thing to do is panhandling. You know what panhandling is? That's when you go and beg for money. So I went to this intersection downtown where all the cars are coming off the highway because I know there's traffic. So I'm going to panhandle for money.

So it's real simple. Excuse me, sir, do you have any money to spend? Do you have any change? No, I didn't do a sign. I would go through the window. Right? Okay. You need a sign, bro. I didn't want to go that deep, man.

But I'm going to tell you what fucked me up. So, I'm getting some money. So, the first day, in two hours, I made like $35. So, I was like, yo, this is the ill hustle right here for me. I got this shit down pat. Because it's always like, you got to smile. Excuse me.

Can you spare the change? Women love that shit, right? Hold on. So there's no way, like, yo, that's wild. There's no way. No, but I remember, I had my full beard on. I had a hoodie on. So I straight up look homeless.

Okay. Right. The only thing that, I remember this one lady was like, your teeth kind of white to be homeless. But that was it, right? So you said, I'm new.

Right, I'm new. I'm new here. But what was it? So one day, right, there's this guy comes up and I try to like target certain people.

Like, if you got a nice car, I figure like, you could spend a little bit of money whatever right? So this dude that came up from the highway red light and it was a GT I'm like I'm gonna get with this guy so and I don't like to touch people call You know I just kind of like trying to make you notice that I'm there right and he's focused He's just looking straight ahead right and I'm trying to get his attention right I'm there, right? And he's focused. He's just looking straight ahead, right? And I'm trying to get his attention, right?

And he's just like bopping his head and not paying any attention to it. Now, mind you, because I have a hidden camera on, I also have an earpiece on, so the people in the van, if they have to warn me for something, they can tell me, the director, whatever, right? The director goes to me,

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I'm just saying. That was hard. That was hard. Oh my god, man. At this time, I'm going to bring all'm just saying. Yo, what's up? I'm just saying. Yo, what's up? Oh my god, man. At this time, I'm going to bring all the Haitian people over here. Spain. All my Haitian people.

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Oh. All my Haitians over here. Spain, come on, sweetie. So where's Zoey at? Where's Zoey at? Zoey left? Bro, we came in the car. Where's Zoey?

Where's Zoey at? Zoey left? Zoey, this lady just went to the car. No, that's a beautiful thing, because me hearing you, Oh, yeah No, that's a that's a beautiful day because me hearing you, you know speaking about um, you know, maybe reputation people and And hear that and the hair like people just come out and support you like this. You know, she's doing her thing on Love & Hip Hop right now. Congratulations. Every Monday we watch you.

And the crazy thing is I know you. I met you prior to that. Yeah. And your heart is so pure. So for me, like, seeing you, like, you know, on Love & Hip Hop and, you know, showing that pure heart of yours. Thank you. Because we already know you can sing and you're a talent and all that.

But that's dope. And I want to big you up. Let's make some noise. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And Smitty, let's... Stop.

No, no, no. You know why, Smitty? Because you're one of those guys that was in the industry and you kind of fell back. And you kind of like didn't care that you fell back? Um,

I had a gift. My gift was writing. And the industry convinced me that being a star was better. So I ran with it. And when that hit me in the face, I was like, why didn't you stay with the gift?

That's how you made your money. So y'all can have it. Let's write some records. That's all, man. Start dancing. So y'all can have it. That's rice and nuggets. Mmm. That's my next. Mmm. That's my next. That's my next. That's my next. That's my next.

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I like that. Your lady rippers are thick, bro. Yeah. She said influencer. That felt like a Nori language right there. I like that. She is. She is.

What do you have, almost a million followers? She's dope. Yeah, yeah. She's dope. That's still a surprise. How do you feel? What you said earlier, you um like it wasn't like cool at one point growing up like to be Haitian and you see these people right here successful

people and trying to be even more successful and repping that Haitian flag what the how does it feel come on man listen you know without getting deep into it you always feel good because at one point it wasn't like that. Right. And when you know the history, the Haitian history, listen, man, we helped free the Greeks,

South America. We helped America with the Louisiana Purchase, 21 states, because we defeated Napoleon. You know what I'm saying, too? Like, we just, Haitian discovered Chicago.

The city that Obama repped, we discovered that. You know what I'm saying, too? So the history is great. So, yo, we want to put the shit out there. So when I'm seeing, you know, this generation doing what they doing, it's beautiful, you know what I mean?

This shit is spreading. Listen, I don't tell motherfuckers I'm black. I say I'm Haitian. You know what I'm saying, too? Got the pink socks on. What the hell? What the hell? What the hell?

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Just because you're from Lil' Haiti doesn't mean you're Haitian. It's Dominicansikins. It's So people didn't know that dichotomy and I didn't really like hold on time I use the big words It was it was confusing because you have people that was championing me as I'm representing the Haitian culture, that's my bloodline. I'm talking about Felicis, Saint Remy's, like all that, that's me, you know what I mean?

As well as Nassau Free Port, as well as my American side. And if you from Little Haiti, you understand where I'm from, you know what I mean? But when you wasn't, back when I did it, it was like, what you mean from Little Haiti? That didn't make sense. So it is beautiful to see it on a large scale with Zoe dollars and everybody Oh, we got that's putting it out there because it's not more comfortable for me to be So yeah, I mean so for me I would love to clear a lot of confusion in my my rise

My boy when it would, which you met. He's like my little brother. His family are one of the founders of Lil' Hady. The Blaine family, yeah. Shout out to Winnick and my boy Ross, man. Yeah, the family got the portrait, the mural up in there. That makes for life. 54, baby.

What's up? See, that's crazy because I don't know the nigga that found this Spanish Harlem. I don't know him at all. You know the nigga that found it, Harlem. I don't know him at all. You know the nigga that found it? Well, his grandfather did. Oh, I know. The nigga who started Spanish Harlem, right, probably founded it in the early 20th century.

So you wouldn't know who that person is. When you look at the migration of when the Puerto Ricans started to migrate to New York especially. And Cubans. And Cubans. Well, Cubans really went. See, there was two migrations for Cubans. They came in early.

No, I'm just saying there was two waves. They came in early. Before the revolution. Right, right, right. Before the revolution. Let's throw that out there. And then they came in the 80s, obviously, when Castro was just getting real crazy with it. But, yeah, so anyway.

So, no, it's just, we've been getting intelligent. I like getting intelligent sometimes. Well, now we got to go back down to some shit. So, no, no, here's the crazy thing is, as hip-hop, especially with you, right, loving hip-hop, what made you choose to do like something like that like because it was it was tough for me and honestly Khaled and E-Class said no when it first came around okay continue and um so when they started filming the pilot and looking for talent they approached me and I you know Khaled and Eonia class was like nah that's not that's not the look we're not doing that so I turned it down but a year later when it came back around and they were actually like in pre-production they were getting ready to film they hit me up and

was like yo so what you doing like you sure you don't want to do this it was definitely who hit me up. Yeah, she's my producer. Big Amadi. Big Amadi. And you know, I just felt like I was at a point in my career, it was like no fault of Khaled's, but he got lost on a jet ski one day and that was it. Like he went viral and his career completely changed. And you had to be happy for him.

And I'm very happy for him. But at the same time, he was busy. You know, he was busy. So I found myself, you know, I put out a record with Amigos and I didn't really have that same push I had with Saturday. Saturday. Saturday. You know, he was busy, so I found myself, you know, I put out a record with Amigos and I didn't really

have that same push I had with Saturday. Saturday. Saturday. It was a vibe. It was a vibe. Good. So,

I just looked back at the year and was like, I could have, you know, like, I could have done more. I could be doing more.

And Khaled's busy and E-Class opened five finger lickings. So, it was like, I can't, I can't sit here and not do something. So I made the decision to do the show.

I took it upon myself against their advice. And how, okay, that being said, like how so far has your experience It was tough for me because you know, I like to be, I'm a very positive person and I like to be

around like-minded individuals and artists and talented people. I'm not saying there aren't people like that on the show. Because you had beef recently with the girl who was- I never have beef. The show is based on conflict. I never have beef. Yeah, so- It's all about conflict.

Exactly, exactly. No, I got to watch the show. Trust me, I'm good at this. It was the girl, the million dollar girl. She said... Oh, yeah, the million dollar girl. She said she's the million dollar girl. Where's Zoe? Zoe just walked in.

Zoe, what up? Oh, yeah, yeah. So, like, how is that? Like, because that's the one thing, like, I don't want to really, you know, but I'm a fan of, you know. The show. For me, it was almost like the new Jerry Springer. It is. I really like Jerry Springer.

You know, you got to learn to understand what it is. And I understood going into it what it was. And I know that the show derives on negativity for ratings. And it is what it is. But it's also a platform to showcase my music and say, yo, I'm out here. And it is what it is. But it's also a platform to showcase my music and say, yo, I'm out here. And this is what I'm doing. Exactly.

And she was an amazing example. Because Cardi had just come out. Remy just had like a smash. Remy's Remy. But, you know, the show was a platform for her also. And also, K. Michelle has an amazing experience with it, too. Big up K. Michelle. Yeah, shout out to K.

But, you know, I just had to stay positive in that situation and I understood what it was and also I know that, like, I'm going to be great with or without the show and I understand that

there's some people who, like, the show is, you know, it's what they have. So when it's time to turn up for TV... It's a perfect platform. It's time to turn up for TV. If you know exactly

what you're doing. Exactly, exactly, yeah. Now, Zoe to turn up for TV. If you know exactly what we're doing. Exactly. Yeah. Now, Zoe. Zoe Dolls. Someone make some noise for Zoe. You're part of the Dolls. You know what I'm saying?

I got a leg. I got a leg. What's up with you and Joe Buttons? You got beef with Joe? What's going on, man? What is going on? Let's get to Louis. His whole face changed.

Is this the first question, Doris? His whole face changed. I don't got no beef with Joe. I just had to let him know something. What happened? What initially happened for y'all even to, like, have any type of static at all? I just felt like he came out cack, though, when he was talking about L.A. Reid, which is the person that signed me, so I didn't really respect that.

Oh, yeah. No, no, no. So then, did you make a record? No, I didn't make a record. I just told him, next time you say something about L.A. Rehab, run it to him and punch him in his mouth. Let's make some noise for that right there. We're talking about you, man.

I'm all about you. I didn't know how to react to that at all. That's cool. There's no beef. No, no, no. I mean, he tweeted me. Y'all cleared it up? No, we didn't clear's cool. There's no beef. No, no, no. I mean, he tweeted me and he tweeted me. Y'all cleared it up?

Yeah. No, we didn't clear it up. He just tweeted something about me and then when I got on the BET, Syfy said, don't go Joe Button instead of Eric Benet.

So, let's actually, because, like, we're on the opposite side of what he does. Right. And it's all love. Of course. But, you know, we like to the opposite side of what he does. Right. And it's all love. Of course. But, you know, we like to big up our people.

Like, a person's on the drink champs or a part of us. That's our model. It's not to say that he's the opposite. No, of course. But it feels like the new generation doesn't respect him. As opposed to us, where we do respect him. The new generation don't respect who? Joe or Jordan don't respect the new generation. Yeah, I think it's probably him talking about the new generation. The new generation respect who? Joe or Jordan respect

the new generation. Yeah, I think it's probably him talking about the new generation. Can you, can you, because we've seen this disconnect, right? Can you like explain like why Amigos wouldn't like him or something like that neither? I mean, the Amigos thing came from him talking about

Yachty. You know, Yachty's QC and that'sy's QC, and that's... Quality control. Yeah, and then I feel like the young cats, like myself and the rest of us who feel some type of way about him, it's just because he don't show us the respect that we show the OGs.

I respect Joe Budden as a lyricist. Whatever you have, one hit song, but we know the lyrics that you have. you fire. Just give us young guys our credit too. But he always discrediting us

or down talking us like, y'all supposed to be the OGs. We, the young hip hop, look up to the OGs coming up. Everybody knew Pump It Up. You get what I'm saying? Why you not giving us our credit?

I'm going gonna be honest it's kind of interesting to hear you say that because as a OG sometimes we don't hear that from me younger yes I'm just gonna be honest crazy oh gee I could tell you why you don't hear that right right? Okay. It's because we get caught up in what... Remember when we were coming up? Yep. All right. So when we were coming up,

we had the old motherfuckers saying, man, this shit that they doing ain't really what hip-hop, right? So we find ourselves doing the same shit when it's like, yo, you passing the torch. Them niggas doing their thing. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be honest with you,

this era is a better fucking era than our era as far as like entrepreneurship, black entrepreneurship. 100%. Because we were on vacation when we was back in the day. Them niggas, they went up to have their coming fucking period. And them niggas were free and they owning this shit. They making the money. Yo, when we had signed our bullshit deal with a label, and fucking bury you. And them niggas were free. And they owning this shit. They making the money. Yo, when we had signed our bullshit deal with a label, they fucking own us.

Now, you had to sell. Listen, let me tell you something. The only reason I can say that the Fuji seen money, because we sold so much ridiculous records that it was kind of like. And by the way. Many, many, many. By the way, let me tell you something. Many, many. The album cost

$175,000, no, sorry, $135,000 to make. Columbia only spent about 200 grand because they were like, oh, y'all going,

y'all going probably get in the top 10 and do the hip hop drop. The shit kept climbing, climbing. By the time they went to spend marketing money,

we was already at like 2 million. You feel what I'm saying? So it was like, that's the only reason why we made money, because we sold so many records. They giving each of us $5 million check. The record was nothing, because we didn't spend nothing. It cost $175,000 to make the score.

$135,000. I just want people to understand the business sense of what the fuck he just said. It sold $25 million. It cost $135,000. That flip was legendary. That minimal investment big day. That's how you know you're a drug dealer. That's exactly how I for Zoe Dowd. Let's bring in a drug dealer. You pulling a Flint?

That's exactly how I'm thinking of it. No, but I'm playing. So I said, so I said. You spent $130 and made. I'll spend $130 any day to make back $25,000. So I say this to say, though, I'm going back to my point. My point is that for me, because people always ask me, yo, what do you think about what's going on right now?

I say, I love it. I mean, obviously. And then when you think about what's going on right now? I say, I love it. I mean, obviously. And then when they ask you what's going on, they're saying the climate of music or the content of music. I think both. Okay, continue. No, you can make arguments for both. You can debate it, yeah. You can say, listen, there's things I feel like,

listen, in our generation, we have an advantage that they didn't have. And I can say the same thing about the advantage that they have now something Okay, can you explain the difference? What was the advantage that we had and what's the advantage they have now? I believe that the advantage that they have it well up about this generation It's all about is the ship piping or not, right and our generation Who's the fucking producer who you down with? Who fucking? Side artists you got all this bullshit. You knew that you know

For our back that soon producing your shit Timberland produces shit diamond deep reduces if you didn't have that shit Motherfuckers in fucking with you here Niggas will give a fuck is the shit Now now on that instance Gunshots for that bro. You can't it's all about the art whether you like it or not. It's about the art you can create Yeah, I could make the argument that in our generation. we probably have more icons. We produce more icons, right? Because it's... What you said is legendary.

So I do not want to cut you off, but I do also want to ask. So does it make it more because, like you said in the R, we made icons. So now a lot of times, these people are making just for that one moment. It doesn't matter though. That's because you know what?

Let me say something to you. Okay. I remember we got into a fight with Keros One on stage. You got to talk about the Keros One fight. Let's go. Let's go into the Keros One fight. Fist fight with Keros One? Fist fight.

Fist fight. Because Keros One felt like the shit that we were doing was not hip-hop At that time he felt like that wasn't hip-hop and that's what I'm saying. You got these old motherfuckers man. It's so Hard they don't want to let go to like I want to hold on to this shift What no nigga pass this shit to the young man? This one right now. That's like one of my favorite. No, he's my I was we have a man that y'all was some shit. You know what it was, you know that record. Um Right now that's like one of my favorite no You know what it was, you know that record on many money no no no

Wrecking he did with his He took Man, is that bad? Is it? Yes. Everyone came to the fucking studio, gave us that fucking record thing. Yo, next day I'm watching MTV, I'm seeing these two niggas, I'm like, what the fuck? I know this nigga. But I'm just saying, that's what happened. So it was like, all right, whatever the fuck. We didn't care because we had Fuji, La, La, La, La, all that shit, right? But then we did a show together. Oh, I know why he got mad.

It was our fault, we fucked up. Shit. Just stick a drum without being drunk. Make some noise for Pryze, goddammit. Goddammit. I think I did some drunk shit so well, I was smacking gum, Pryze. What we used to do, when we would open up,

that's what Puff never wanted to, Puff and Biggie never wanted to perform with us, because what we used to do, we would take your hottest record and freestyle over it. Oh yeah, Lauren did that to me one night. I did not like it. I did your own, my gosh, she did a band from TV one night. I came out, I was like, yo, hold up, Lauren, what are you doing? Right, right, right. Nobody's going to want to meet him before I'm there, I was like yo hold up, Lori what are you doing? Right, right, right.

Nobody's gonna want to meet him before I'm done acting out. Lori, I'm sorry Gary. So that's what happened. We took one, two, three. The crew is called Refugee Inn. Which is a top 10 TV show. Oh, y'all was foul back then. Now I'm feeling like I'm foul.

So he came on stage and he's like, yo I didn't even like you niggas. And you did this to me? Y'all was foul back there But whatever I mean, you know after that but the point I'm saying is you got a lot of old geez That don't want to go with the time and it's a new time. It's the new era Oh geez, just gotta accept that they not gonna have two million followers. Right. And us young niggas, we gonna be getting two million followers, a lot of likes, a lot of trolls. But real niggas understand that when it's your time, you gotta move over. Exactly. Yeah, but see, I'm gonna be honest with you, I've been having an argument with my own people.

I'm constantly hearing, well, this shit ain't... I'm like, yo, I'll be having all good my own people's like I'm constantly hearing Well, this shit ain't I'm like yo, bro. Like I remember what motherfuckers saying that about us. Yeah, that's my same story You don't think you so for me and don't get me wrong. I Don't care what it is. There's always gonna be some bullshit It was a little shit in our zone and this generation you will see some bullshit But then there's some other shit that's just piping hard. You can't deny this shit. It's what the fuck it is.

Facts. Every era had that. Yeah. The 2000 era had Soulja Boy. Yep. Mmm. I ain't even kidding you guys. Wow.

When Ross was piping, when T.I. and Jeezy and all of them were piping. AI Soulja Boy in the middle of them. I'll tell you something better than that. People tell you that one of the best eras in music is the 90s, right? Exactly. Some of the best eras in music is the 80s. You know who we had in the 80s? We had MC Hammer and we had Vanilla Ice.

Exactly. And they would be welcome on Drink Champ. I understand exactly who they were. I understand exactly who they were. I understand exactly what they did. I understand exactly what it was. And the thing about it is, that's the thing about music. See, people in...

See, the reason why people should be paid in music more than anything else in life is we put our whole life in front of the fucking world, right? And if our shit don't work, guess what? We can't never say, oh, I'm just taking my face off and I'm going to

just go back to normal life. Some of us are lucky. Some of us are lucky to say, yo, I can take their face off and they might not see. But I don't give a fuck if you had a hit record if you had two fucking views if you had three million fucking views there's somebody in this world who looked up to you that you can't take that shit back at all you can't take it back you influence somebody somewhere that's why music people should be playing like fucking

baseball fucking players. But the money does exist. The only problem is that you have this institutional entity that's set up to not let us. Think about this, right? I'm going to tell you something, Dean. Do you know we're the only one, when you look at any genre of any business, anything, whether you go work for a hospital, you're a doctor, you're in medicine, engineering, sports, athletes, actors, we're the only one don't have any insurance. Yeah, we've been talking about that. Think about that.

Yo, because now let me say this to you. We've been talking about this forever. Rest about rest of my man five dog Joe and five dog could have a little something better maybe he would have one went out like that this shit yo my nigga it's some real shit your music don't give a fuck about yo this is that's big it'll do and that's about it that's bigger than just hip hop. That's just a theory. Yo, that's in general. We need a SAG. That's in general. That's in all SAG. But SAG is really active.

No, I'm saying we need our version of it. We need our version of it. Because yo, it doesn't make any sense. Because there's everybody. Everything we doing for all the money that these labels made, that we don't have something, a little something, like if something happens to me? Right.

Come on, man. That shit is crazy. Like, just think about it. Like, let's just say, like, I'm using you for example. It's probably a bad example, but I'm using you, right? No, I'm just keeping it real, right? So you're from the streets. You're from the streets of Miami, right?

You're doing all this positive things, but now you jump in a car with your homie. You're leaving the office. And your homie say, yo, me and the yagi pulled over and None of this shit in the cars yours, but you just roll with your homie for a second, right? This should be a hip-hop union that says ah We understand that You understand we're gonna get Zoe dollars. We're going to go motherfucking take and like,

yo, I kid you not, this was some crazy shit. One time I got locked up and Lee Alcon's had everything set up for me. Like, it was like

he waited for me to get locked up. Like, I kid you not, he was like, room, room, room, Bar Colleen had called me, room, room, room,

my belt money was here, I knew what time I had was going to, I said, what the fuck? Like, they was here, I knew what time I was going to the belt, I said what the fuck, like they were so experienced at Def Jam, I was coming from Tommy Boy I was like, they didn't know what the fuck to do when I got locked up, but what I'm trying to say

is, that should be something where you know, you just made a simple mistake, you just got in the car with your homie to go to the office or go to King of Diamonds or something like that. This should be something that protects you for putting in that work, for being,

you know what I'm saying? For sitting there and saying, you know what? Like, DMX said something on this podcast. This was like our third podcast. Third or fourth, yeah. And he said, I stopped hating rap rappers. And we all stopped. He got quiet and he said, what the fuck?

Why did you say that? And what do you mean? He said, I stopped hating whack rappers. And we said, why do you not hate whack rappers? And he said, because at least one rapper employs six or seven other people. So no matter if he don't like them or not. Creating opportunities. he's creating opportunities and he's helping other people

from the hood make it out. But see, that's why I always say to you, people say to me, they look at me like, yo, you know, why are you so happy when people see me? I mean, you know,

you got three Cartier braces. We know what's happening. And? I mean, you know, nuts. You got on three Cartier braces. We know what you're up to. And you can't even just think of it. First off, let me just throw this out there. This is the most expensive gift I've ever got on Dream Champs, period. He gave me three Patek Philippes, right? I'm a watch guy as well. I'm a watch guy as well.

I didn't spend $250,000 on the petite I don't even know if I'm pronouncing it right but I definitely excuse me I knew that I knew I wasn't pronouncing it right but for now listen you're gonna make me spend $250,000 to get one

just to put it in there you're a fucking blessed guy no but I was saying I was talking to somebody and I said You're a fucking blessed guy. No, but I was saying, I was talking to somebody and I said, what hip-hop has done for the culture, where would we all be if hip-hop didn't exist? Right?

That's why, because somebody asked me a question, I was going to, and that's why I don't like doing interviews. Because the reason I don't do interviews is because they like to revert back

and try to ask me how do I feel about Wyclef and Lauren. Right. And, so I'm like, We didn't ask you about that.

You didn't ask me about that, but I'm just saying, I'm glad you did. This is real hip hop. But this is, right. But they asked me, But thank you for pointing it out. Right didn't ask me about that, but I'm saying, I'm glad you did. This is real hip-hop. But they asked me, well... Thank you for pointing it out. Right.

Appreciate it. Continue. They asked me, how do I feel about their success? I said, I'm happy. Well, are you happy that Lawrence sold more records than you? I said, well, wouldn't I be happy? What the fuck not you be happy about Right

Like Just cause you haven't heard Me Doesn't mean I don't exist Yeah I got the most incredible Fucking life on this planet Talk that shit

You feel what I'm saying to you Talk that shit Because of this Because of Lauren and Wyclef And my ingenuity Right I'm able to say

I can fly private Right I'm able to say I got my home in Beverly Hills so I got a real Paddock on with real diamonds That's it if you get the diamonds. Oh, yeah, and look at your face. It's different. Keep talking. Let me be quiet. Keep talking. You know what I'm saying? My shit is not bust down. My shit is for real factory.

Yeah, factory. So I say this to say, that's why I'm always the nigga who's happy for people. That's why when I see the young G's, I'm happy, man, because I'm like, yo, this is something we created. Right. Right. Yo, we, this is something we created. Right. Right. Yo, we living off, think about this.

I'm sitting here talking to my man on some bullshit. We're just reminiscing. Who the fuck, nurses can't do that, engineers can't do that. People in corporate world can't do that. They got a nine to five. This is our nine to five. This is our nine to five. This is our, the lifestyle is your career. I think we should slow clap for this.

You know when a nigga say something deep, you slow clap. I'm just saying, man. That's a slow clap. Keep going, bro. No, no, I don't want to take, I'm just saying. So when I see clap. I'm just saying. Keep going, bro. I don't want to take... I'm just saying. No, no, no, no, no, no. So when I see a young Haitian... That's my bag.

Oh, my bad. I love your bag. Oh, you love my bag? I'm just saying. I was like, yo. I'm sorry. A young Haitian. My bag.

I'm just saying. When I see this beautiful woman representing Haiti, a man Zoe Dollars. Zoe Dollars. You know what I'm saying? Represent the hood. Representing the hood. You know what I'm saying? She's beautiful, man.

She makes it. And we're going to see her in representing the hood, you know saying it's beautiful What? They didn't have a name right there. What was the name? I forgot. Kimballus Nation. Okay, my wife got your back. Your wife follows me. My wife got your back. She knows the Cuban coalition. My wife is going to shit. She's doing it.

Listen, him and my wife, I'm him, this, this, this, you know. And my wife, you know, I'm a partner. And my wife, they basically made me like an honorary Cuban. And then I'm already an honorary Haitian. So like I'm mad confused. Like in life. Like I'm just like an honorary everything. You know I'm an honorary Dominican. That So, like, I'm mad confused. Like, in life. Like, I'm just, like, an honorary everything. And I'm an honorary Dominican.

That's what you thought I was a Dominican? No, baby, she's dope. That's right. That's right. Thank you. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. So, Fraz, why isn't the Fugees together right now?

I mean, where's Shaheen Reid at? Before you answer that, where's Shaheen Reid at? Before you answer that, where's Shaheen Reid at? Shaheen in the cut. He left? Okay. Well, it was crazy, right? Here's the craziest shit, right? I spoke to my friend Busta Rhymes.

You know Busta. Of course, we all know Busta. That's my man. They got the Busta. And course, we all know Busta. That's my man. They got the Busta. And Busta, me and Busta just talking out of the blue. And Busta said, yo. I said, what's up? And he goes, yo.

Yo, Nas just told Shaheen Reid some real shit. And I said, what was that? And he goes, Shaheen Reid asked Nas when his next album is coming out. And Nas said, I think the game is cool without me. That's crazy. That's scary, bro. But it's also luxury. Just think about it.

It is luxury. Because when you're a rapper, and I've got to speak from a rapper's point of view, I don't know from R&B perspective, but from a rapper's point of view, you always go back in and do that next album to get up, to hit the road, to get up,

and that cycle keeps going. But what happens is when that part of your life just erases where you just say, fuck it, Al. You don't have to do it, Al. Because you're already

a legend. But he reached a certain threshold where he's exploring and that's... That's kind of what you were already talking about.

Right. He's exploring a lot of different world, you know. So, listen. Because the world is going to say, props, where's the next time? the next time right so you at that level with what level where it's like yeah I

mean listen look bro I tell people this and I'm not trying to be funny when I say this but I probably got more money than your top ten favorite rappers out right now. Talk that shit, bro. Talk that shit, bro. Talk that shit, bro. Talk that shit, bro. And be that shit. Talk that shit, my nigga. Talk that shit.

And it's not, it's just because I invested my money. They always said Pryze was the business guy, the foodie. Is that correct? Period. I mean, I was always the nigga, like, I know one thing, once I left the hood, I said, I ain't going back there, yo. By no circumstances, I'm not going back there. The trajectory from being to the hood to where I go,

I couldn't let that shift back there. You feel me? So I made sure, like, and I try to teach, you know, whoever wants to hear that, like, yo. Talk that shit. This is not ever going to last forever. So you gotta worry about the bell curve in your life. And you gotta say, I'm gonna keep this,

I'm gonna trick this, I'm gonna invest this. Because you never know when that time comes to slow so when people sitting here seeing me driving the race like you said beautiful like they like it's a bespoke by the way I don't even know this rich language you talking bespoke just mean like where you get it custom made oh ok god damn it but but but but

I don't even know what that means I I gotta spend my life off thinking about it. No, but I'm just saying, it's just a beautiful thing to be able to know that because of this hip-hop thing... The cost of hip-hop. Yo, I'm always going to revert back to... You gotta remember something. I went to college, right? So I dropped out my senior year, the beginning of my senior year. Label was like, yo, y'all gotta make a decision y'all gonna go on the road or whatever right damn you know obviously my mom hated that because she

a Haitian you know went to Yale like how you don't finish and get your degree right but I knew this is where if I didn't have hip-hop I'm gonna say this to you if I didn't have hip-hop, I'm going to say this to you. If I didn't have hip-hop, I probably would have graduated from college, getting into finance, working Wall Street. Right now, at this point in my life,

I probably would have been married, have three kids. I would have hated my life, hate my wife, hate my kids. No, I'm just saying because... This is the life. Hip damn. No, I'm just saying because this is a life. Hip hop life, I'm able to do even better. Definitely didn't see it going that way. I think the kids are trying to live their life.

They're living their life in the life. The kids can. I know some happy people without music. Come on, Bryce. Come on. You can do it, man, bro. You can. Maybe I stretch it a little.

I don't know. You got me lit a little. But what I'm saying is... I know what you mean, though. You know, you said something very interesting. As an artist, when you put music out there, or you're creating there or you creating

or you acting you basically you putting your naked self out there yeah right it's kind of like like

the guy who made this bottle if I say man I hate this fucking blueberry shit he's so much he's sleeping he cool

we don't know what he's doing right but if you say I hate this artist right here and you start trolling him. Never gonna take that face off.

That artist is, he may act like he don't care, this is. It affects him a little. Like, damn, why the fuck this motherfucker don't like my shit? Right? This nigga don't care if he doesn't like it. Most of you probably wouldn't like organic blueberry. Right? Real nigga shit, I'm just saying, right? I'll tell you a funny story. But please, please remember your point. Please, please remember your point. But I'll tell you a funny story one day.

One day when I was first about to become a component of OREA, a dude came on the train I was going to Unique Studios and he was leaving from the train stop from Unique Studios so he stood there and he took off his McDonald's hat and he took off his shirt and he was just like boom and we were just talking and I was getting

off of stop and I would have traded my life a year later to be like that. Once I took off my hat, I wanted to not be Nori no more. I didn't know I could never turn that back on. I didn't know that. But let me ask you something.

Where you at right now in your life, right? Yes. Think about this. Oh, man. For 75 years straight, the number one genre of music selling-wise was rock and roll worldwide.

75 years straight, they were crowned. Last year, June, they got crowned by hip-hop. So now hip-hop is the number one genre. It's hip-hop, rock, country, Last year June they got decrown by hip hop. So now hip hop is the number one genre. It's hip hop, rock, country, then pop, or pop country, some shit like that, right?

Knowing what you know now and where you at now, do you feel like you have any regrets? Not plenty of regrets. I mean regrets, listen, my father always told me you have to take both good and bad in life because what happens is you can't just love the good, right? Because if you just love the good,

then you're blessed. You got to love the bad. You got to love the good. Because the bad is what helps you to get to your dream. That's what my father said. That's what he said. They say you got to love hell,

all right, meaning you have to actually go through hell to come out. Right, right, right. But what I'm saying is, when you look at what you're doing right now, right, you probably never thought after your first, cause you on your second curve right now.

Maybe my third, but yeah. I had a whole Spanish career. I went Spanish for a little bit. You did go Spanish. I went Spanish for a long time. I went Spanish for a long time. I helped y'all introduce Reagan.

Now that y'all problem. I get y'all Reagan, though. This is y'all shit. I'm over here in the podcast world. I'm so sorry. Don't you feel like this is the best thing that ever happened to you? It's music. It's hip-hop.

I mean. Yes. Hip-hop. Bro, listen. Even with all my travels, I probably got 10 million miles to travel. Right. And all my success, all my accolades and everything.

I'm still marveled at what hip hop has led me to be at. I agree. You know what I'm saying, too? I don't want to keep belaboring the point, but I just always want to give thanks man, because it's just so fucking beautiful. Slow clap, y'all. That's a slow clap. You got to do that with aggression. Anyway, yeah.

No, that's real shit, because the thing about it is that's where, where, where, where, where shit is where music can actually bring you. With your thought and then you gotta think about what music actually is. Like have you ever seen like mosaic art and all these Picassos. They start with a white paint, right? That's what music is. Music, we start with nothing. It starts with a beat. The guy can be in the studio. Maybe he's

not. But the beat just plays and we just think of this. That is a masterpiece. And then you can raise something out of nothing and that should always be saluted

it should always be respected and I just want to say as a musician as a person who they quote unquote say you know who sat in a locker room. That's the reason why me and my partner DJ, he a friend to the right of me.

They say that this is why the drink champs work, but because we actually, he's actually a real DJ. This is not no fucking DJ that fucking, he still won't fuck with the, The Seraki, whatever. The Seraki guy, he's the final guy. He still wants to bring crates. I ain't taking it to the club no more, though. Get some.

But that's what, it sets me, and I say, damn, that's the essence of hip hop I remember coming going to London and these guys wouldn't let me go in a club because they wanted

to do a spray paint of Capone and Noriega before we walked in and I was just like what? like niggas ain't hip hop like that

like we not really doing like we love hip hop but niggas ain't spraying a spray paint and the break dancers that you had to walk in and the break dancers they not really doing no like we love hip-hop. I think it's ain't praying a spray paint and the break dances You had to watch the break dances. He wants you all that really doing that in New York I'm just telling you but they did Like in London, I'm like, oh my god

I think I see yeah, but you know what it is when you go outside when you go outside of America They have such an affinity for the culture. We take advantage, we basically take advantage of the culture. I mean, not take advantage. Take it for granted. Take it for granted. Yes.

They don't care, you know what I mean? It's like, but I can tell you stories, like I remember when niggas used to iron their laces, you used to put your clothes up the night before to figure out what you going to wear. I don't even want to go there, but I'm just saying. I'm dead. I'm just saying.

You go, go. Go, go. We had this on Dre Champs. Go, go. I'm just saying. I just had to say I never heard of nobody ironing their laces. I did. Your fat foam laces?

I had to iron them. Yo. Yo, listen. I'm just letting you know. I'm just letting you know. Yo, Norty, can you tell them? Listen, let me tell you something. I remember when you could tell who was a gangsta nigga based on what they wore. Like, you don't wear Timbs if you ain't gonna bust no guns. That's a fact.

Okay, I remember that era. I definitely did with you. Right? Yes. Like you know where it is if you ain't gonna bust no gun. Yes, okay Right come on man, I'm 40 you 43 right? Yeah, yeah those two years Like this hip-hop shit when it will we like I'm in the first time the first hip-hop record I heard in radio station was not that fucking hippity-bop shit Nothing here. No, no, no, no when I heard sucka MC. That was one of the MC That was the first hip-hop record on a radio on BLS. Where was you at? I Was in the park, getting jumped. Shit! You heard the record when you was getting jumped?

Yo, yo, listen! What a soundtrack to that! Yeah, you gonna talk this game on. Yo, yo, real talk, real talk. Yo, I was getting jumped, and this is when these niggas used to walk around with it. With the boombox. With the boombox. They'd be around here eating shit.

They'd be around here eating shit. We was just thinking with a Kangol hat on. And these four niggas came to me, you know, trying to whatever the fuck they were saying. They were trying to get to me. And all I heard was this dude. Like, you know the niggas that had the deep voice? I heard a voice, but I didn't know what it was.

Until as the boxes getting closer, he said, new record buyer, group called Run DMC. And you heard, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. And them niggas who was jumping me, we all stopped. And we watched them niggas who was jumping me we all stopped And the nigga, after the nigga walked by, the niggas continued to jump me, but it was the best day of my life, nigga. No, real facts. That's amazing. Tell her. That's a movie.

All right, surprise. Tell her. This is definitely a super skit. I'm ready to shoot you with this. All right, hold on. Surprise. You just walk into a park, randomly. Nah, nigga, you know how we used to have, in Brooklyn, we used to have a summer camp where they send the kids to kind of like the daytime

so you don't do anything you're not supposed to do. And you didn't have the bullies at that time. You know, I was just a little Haitian kid, whatever. And these niggas just came around me, man. And I was like, shit, where the fuck am I going? Niggas surrounding me. And I'm hearing this voice from my side of my ear, but I don't know what the fuck the voice is.

Then as it got closer, that's when the music blew. And niggas just was like, oh, shit. And after the nigga left, the niggas just punched me in the face and took my money from me and shit. So the dude with the boombox wasn't in on the joke? No, no, he just happened to be walking by. Stop it! Stop it! We stopped everything to just cut.

That was back in the day, man. That was just one of those moments, man. That's crazy. I love this story. You know what I mean? Oh my God, I could actually see this squirted rope out. See it, yeah. It's real shit. That's how I got introduced to hip hop.

That's crazy. And then I saw the influence of hip hop a year later. Okay, so let's just throw this out there. Your first memory of hip hop was you got drunk. You would have thought it would have had a negative impact. I would not think that that would be a profession. Yo, I fell in love. Because you know, like a mechanic,

like if his first job as a mechanic was like getting his thumb sliced off, he's just like, I'm good, I'm good. I'm a mechanic. But you actually got jumped and said, I'm going to fuck with this. It was just, it was that, you know, you knew it was something, man.

It was that hip hop shit. I didn't know what it was, but you felt it like, and then you start doing the breakdancing and all that shit. And when you, this is when I knew hip hop was gonna be crazy, is when, for the very very first time I saw Michael Jackson perform on Motown 25 I didn't know who the fuck he was cuz I was a young kid I don't know what Motown 25 is Motown 25 is when Michael Jackson first performed Billie Jean to the world And he did the moonwalk. That was the first time he did the moonwalk. That's the great hip hop. Says that I am the one, but that kid is not mine.

You've been going for a sing-along all day. Yeah, I've been trying. I've been trying. Yo, you never saw Motown 25? Nah, I'm going to lie. I'm 40. You never saw? That had nothing to do with 40.

Stop it, man. You never saw Michael Jackson do the moonwalk? No, I've seen Michael Jackson do the moonwalk. That was the first time he did that first time the first time the world So Michael, let me tell you something. Let me tell him impactful Michael Jackson. She was I went to school the next day The most I'm going to watch it was incredible Richard Pryor I was on that shit, right? Okay, but what school was this? You're in Brooklyn you and I'm in Jersey now. Okay, everybody was doing that shit, right? Okay, but what school was this? You were in Brooklyn, you were in Jersey? Oh, no, no, I'm in Jersey now.

Okay, in Jersey. Because I was in the sixth grade. Okay. Well, you know what part of Jersey you remember? Yeah, like, uh, Irvington. Irvington? Where Latifah, where Latifah's from. Let me tell you something, you was in Irvington?

Yeah. Let me tell you something, I went to Irvington recently. It's still terrible in Irvington. I'm just going to throw that out there. Hey, that's why I had to get the fuck out. recently it's still terrible everything because Newark is like rough but it's like what do you know what's wrong for everything is good well nobody don't care Jesus but I have time I wasn't that rough but anyway so we go to the school. And I'll never forget this. The principal get on the loudspeaker. And he says, we're going to do our morning prayer.

He says, after we do our prayer, I don't know. I'm sure a lot of you guys probably were asleep. But I witnessed the most incredible thing in my life. Watching Michael Jackson perform last night with his brothers was so incredible. I'm going to give you guys a whole day off. Y'all can leave after prayer. And we left school

at 9 a.m. Went home. The principal did that? The principal did that. That's crazy. Fuck, we never get none of that shit. Again, I don't know

what to say. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying that's between Run DMC and Michael Jackson. That's the thing. It was day off at school. That's the thing. Hey, yo, listen.

That's the impact. Because you got to remember, this was before the album trailer came out. It was a day back. God damn it was a day. What year were you born? I was 77. You wasn't paying attention. You wasn't a hug. Because it happened in 84. So I was 77. You wasn't paying, you wasn't 100. I was in the 80s.

Because it happened in 84. All right, so I was alive. You was alive. You were alive. I was 77. 75. 75.

But the point I'm saying to you is, is that seeing what I've heard with Run DMC and seeing everybody doing this thing and then able to see it by this guy who's supposed to be this mega star taking a piece of our culture.

Prime example, you look at Super Bowl this year, 60% of all the ads has some hip hop influence. Absolutely. So thank you. This is the craziest. So you got to say to yourself,

that's how impactful the culture is. That's the whole point I was trying to make. I'm not trying to bring you back to say to yourself, that's how impactful the culture is. That's the whole point I was trying to make. I'm not trying to bring you back to the moonwalk. I'm just telling you how I felt at that time when I was getting jumped and I heard Run DMC and then So Michael and then now we're here. No, but you got jumped and so all career. That's hard. I've never heard a verse. He got a negative positive. That's so dope. So all career that's hard

Positive that's so dope I'm gonna do that So, um, do you ever like sit back and reflect and and is anything that you regret I can't because I think the minute I start regretting anything, I feel like my blessings gonna be taken away from you Because when the universe It's never gonna be all good part of what makes the character is how do you deal when? Shit is not going the way it needs to go for you. You know, they said, my dad told me this one time, he said, before you reach success, your comfort zone has to be disrupted.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's a fact. You feel what I'm saying to you? No, I feel what you say. It's too much. Yeah. No, for real.

Well, you know what I'm saying? So I can't regret anything, man. I have to, because my regret is what led to some of my... Because they always say that, they always say that, you know, before like the, you know, the big shit happens, you've got to go through something. Man, so hearing that, it's crazy. It's inspiring. And if people are strong, they can't weather that.

And they won't see their success around the corner. It's always darkest before dawn, like you said. It is. It's always darkest before dawn. So, don't regret it. I don't. Even when it's... When I'm facing my darkest moments man my darkest hour man I always say

there's a reason behind this but in the whole a luxurious career is there anything you personally could have said you know what I wish I would did this part yeah you could say that but I you know to keep things together I don't know. Maybe it was something... I know where you're going with this. You mean, do I wish the Fugees would have lasted? You always say that. Oh, maybe we could have done another... It wasn't supposed to be like that,

bro. Like, the way this shit ended... Because you got to remember something. During the whole Fuji shit, I knew I was on the Titanic. So I just made sure I had my boots. I had my mouth. Oh, my God. You're going way too fast.

That's crazy. You went there. You said the whole time on being in the Fugees, you knew you was on the Titanic. There's a singing show. Everybody knows that's here. The Titanic, definitely. on the Titanic. There's a sinking ship. Everybody knows that's here. The Titanic, definitely. Hit the iceberg. Yes.

I had my life vest on. So you knew that from the beginning? I knew that from day one. You knew that this will sink eventually? A hundred percent. Okay, so now continue what you were saying. What the fuck was I saying? You were saying something great.

Yo, look at that. Look at that. That's crazy. Look at that. You know I'm skilled. I wasn't prepared, but I also was prepared. So you're saying that you knew that it was a success ladder, right? Because you guys actually reached a certain amount of success.

Let's talk about regret. Yeah, not that. He said he knew that. He said he has no regrets. No. But based on that. We've got out of the no regret part, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you see the success. How do you visualize that? This success may stop or may alternate. Because I knew... I knew it was a bit morbid, what was happening inside of the whole cave, if you will you know so it was inevitable mm-hmm something was gonna happen right so that's the thing about success you got to prepare you know you hope for the best with you

plan for the work right so I knew that's like i said to you because if i didn't know because it was so easy to be in that whirlpool and thinking like yo this shit's gonna last forever right and let me tell you what's deep about at the end of the day everyone the only person you can really count on is yourself. And it's harder when you're in a group because the thing is, you may have a vision. Like, I had a vision, right? Because I put this shit together. I went to Von Lahren, Found Clef. We never got to that.

We're going to that later. Yeah. So I knew, like, okay, this is cool. But if I believed the hype at that time, I wouldn't be sitting here right now. I'd be fucked up in the game right now. See what I'm saying, too? So I always looked at it like, I love the art. I love this shit.

This is incredible. And put on my life vest. When that shit hit the iceberg, there's a little boat right down there. I'm going to jump off that fucking ship, land on that boat, and go ashore. That's how I always look at it.

This is a crazy process. I can't act like what you're saying. It's not crazy. So you're saying is not crazy. So you're saying from the beginning, you knew there was a possibility that. Not a possibility, it was inevitable. You know what that word means? It means like, it's gonna happen no matter what.

No matter what. Right. And you prepared yourself from. Bro, I'm sitting here right now, right? Yes. Okay. I'm just saying, it's just I'm just definitely not that small.

And it's nothing, by the way, but I'm going to say this to you. I wouldn't change a thing. That's what's deep about it. Because if anything would have changed, it would change... I wouldn't be sitting here right now. Now, I don't know

if, okay, maybe I would have been $100 million richer, maybe, right? Maybe, I don't know what would have happened, but it wouldn't be what's happening right now. And you're saying whatever you did, whatever, how everything's transpired, you could sleep good at night. Yo, when I sleep in my Freightay sheets. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're hitting me with some other rich shit.

What is this? Freightay. Freightay. What is this, Google that. Ass, Google it. Come on, Freightay sheets, come on, hurry up. Ass, you looking at me, you got to Google it. It's a rich sheet.

Please Google it. It's a rich sheet. Do I need Freightay sheets? You already told me I got to spend $200. First of all, I thought it was $200. He said $450. This prize, I'm hanging out with you, is very expensive. I'm just throwing it out there.

It's all good, though. I got to set my game. But when I go to bed at night. I sold $1 million. You sold $25. Don't worry about it. I just want y'all to know that. When I go to bed at night, I sleep.

You know why I sleep well? Because I know that, first of all, I never robbed a person. I've always been a person of my word. And more importantly, my two counterparts, I'm extremely happy

for everything they've done. That's why I feel like God blessed me. Right? A nigga who haven't put out a record in 20 years, I just told you, I probably got more money than your top 10 favorite rappers today. And if I really want to stretch it,

maybe top 10 put together. But I ain't going that far. All right. All right. So, that's blessed. Maybe top 10 put together But I ain't going that far Alright Alright So Go brah That's blessing That's That's

That's blessing That's You're gonna make some noise We gonna make some noise With that Hey you guys Get in here And hey

You better clap Louder That's That's right Yeah keep talking That's real So I'm just saying And H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H Let me tell you something I got so much love for you. You know why I got love for him before we even Fuck with each other. I will run into him here and there. I think one time I ran to him at the airport It was always love. Yeah We respect him, but yeah, that's what he was. It was that man

And it's like I never was on some like whatever type because you got something You know, we got some niggas feel like I don't know Like I don't know what kind of shit they on the right right right? So that's this part that you you guys can't relate to us is certain people look at us like nigga get out the way They're gonna make it we ain't Billy. Yeah, wait, nigga I mean the one other side we've been in your way nigga we been doing other shit but also that's the new nigga mentality is I want to be there and that's the reason why I get the fuck out they way immediately like a nigga come from left right they want

to rap I be like good nigga I don't want this. This is yours. What? Oh, you. But the thing about it is, and then people be like, you know, oh, no, no, the king of left, right, or the king of some, and then it makes the little nigga think that, no, no, homie.

We respect, there's people who actually is good and want the new generation and want to say, yo, look, it's y'all turn. But sometimes the new generation, I'm not saying y'all, but I it's your turn but sometimes the new generation I'm not saying y'all but I'm saying as people who representing the new generation that people that they don't recognize that you know I'm saying

they don't recognize that I want see me and you me and you connected this is real shit this is off-camera every time I see just a deal you know I've been living Miami for 12 years I'm sitting'm sitting here, and he's promoting his shit, and I'm like, yo, my nigga, go. You're the next guy. And you know that. Facts. You know that. Like, I was like, yo, go.

You're the next guy. You're the next guy. Keep going. And I would go to your shows. And I wouldn't even try to take pictures. I wouldn't even know you was there. Yeah, I'd just be there smoking. I'm like, I like that shit.

This is the Miami I fuck. Man, it's a beautiful thing to see, you know, years later. You know, see everybody, you know what I mean? Because that's just who I am. Like, what's Rick Ross DJ? Sam Sneak. A lot of people don't even know. That was my favorite DJ in Miami.

This is the real. This is the real. When I first started coming to Miami, whatever this nigga was at, I would just go there. And he'll be like, I know he'll be looking at me like, man, what are you doing?

Like, you're Nori. I'm like, yeah, you're my favorite DJ, though. Like, you know, I did that with Camilo. But, you know, Camilo, he's Latino. It's a little safer. I do that with Slash Lee. Slash Lee. It's a wild night. That's a wild night.

That's a wild night. Somebody got killed that night. That was a wild night. I don't even think you know this story. That was my favorite little hood DJ. I was like, all right, cool. I see them. He turns up, and I just followed him.

It's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. But I went everywhere in Miami for that. But this is a beautiful thing, when we can sit together as hip-hop and just sit down. And the accomplishments that you and your group, and just you guys in general, just made. Legend. This is legendary, man.

And I want to personally thank you for coming to Dream Camp. I knew you. I knew you forever. You've always been a great guy, but the fact that you're just still here and just still happy and I think that's the thing about

us as OGs, right? Is we receive a lot of flack because thing about Us as OGs Right Is We receive a lot of flack Because a lot of the OGs Ain't happy Well They're not happy Because

Once again We don't have a coalition To protect them After it's done And it's like Their contribution That they've done Right

Think about like These guys They contributed to this hip hop To take it to a different level Right Just keep expanding done and it's like every day contribution that they've done right think about like these guys they they contributed to this hip-hop to take it to a different level right just keep expanding because it's number one now right so 10 20 years from now if he's not one of them lucky ones that got out see the nfl the nba they got a pension plan they got all OJ This nigga's running in Vegas Chilling Why? Cause he got a pension plan Right?

We don't have that So they upset Cause not everybody's gonna hit it out the park Let's keep this shit all the way real Right? Not everyone's gonna have A hundred million streaming Not everyone's gonna sell

Twenty million records So what about the ones that Maybe just doing a little something Right? Like in SAG You don't have to be Denzel to have insurance plan. You either got to make a minimal or you just pay

some monthly, yearly thing, whatever, and you part of SAG and you got health insurance. These OGs is looking at it like, man, yo, I remember when I was pulling in 50 racks a night, 70 racks a night, thinking it's going to last forever. And now I don't have anything to go to, no one to turn to. Right?

Can you imagine being hot for like 10 years and then you got to go trying to find a job? Yeah. It's hard. This shit is hard, man. Worst nightmare. Worst nightmare. So that's why they feel, I think, you know, this. Now that doesn't give an excuse because, listen excuse because listen gotta lay in the bed you made right it's just how it is you should

find a way to figure this shit out like i said to you i figured it out because i knew i was on the titanic and so because when you have a crew a group you group, you all gotta be in concert. If one person is singing off key, it fucks everything up. So now, your life is in that person's hand. If they decide like, man, I ain't going, I don't wanna go right with you, I don't wanna go left with you, you left holding an empty bag.

So I always knew that shit, I was like, yo, just in case. Because I have a feeling. But why did you actually feel you was on something that wasn't going to work for years? Like, why? Because, you know, I'll be honest with you, right?

I never thought, like, you know, me, Traz, Capone, we just sat down. I just thought we would be together forever. Forever. But, you know not me trash Capone we just sat down I just thought we would be together for forever but you know it didn't make me feel like I have to or I'm going to do something on my own until I found something wrong but you're saying prior to that you're saying prior you're saying just even when y'all was that at happiest moment, you felt like he was on something that was going to... So let me say this to you.

So this is what success means, right? All success is it just amplifies who that individual is, really is. Already. So meaning like if I'm a quiet person

and I become super rich, I'm going to become a hermit. If I'm a quiet person and I become super rich I'm gonna become a hermit if I'm a hermit crab no hermit means somebody who just secluded somewhere okay right so that's what they call hermit crab right yeah that's why they call it oh right I'm sorry I'm simplistic okay if you an asshole if you're a small asshole, you're going to be a bigger asshole. You're going to be a bigger fucking asshole. So I kind of like, because when I was in college, I studied psychology. But that doesn't make me a psychoanalysis expert. I just kind of like. Understood.

Kind of enough. Had an understanding. A little bit. Sounds like you're analyzing a lot, right? So I saw the traits of like. Have an understanding. A little bit. A little bit. You analyze it a lot, right? Right. So I saw the traits of like, hmm, this shit is kind of crazy over here. Meaning, meaning, because at the end of the day, like, I mean, honestly, I'm just trying to be as human as possible.

This is just human. If I'm looking at the person to the right of me and I'm looking at the person to the right of me and I'm looking at the person to the left of me, and we're all broke, I don't know if that's y'all case. Yeah, we're all broke, 100%. But what I'm saying is, if I'm looking at Capone and I'm looking at Trad,

and I'm saying, okay, boom. Trad can be hominified or enlightened, but I think that I know who he is, right? And the same thing with Capone, I know who he is. There was a part where you just knew that. No, it's not that.

Okay. So, think of it like this. Money and power is not meant for everyone Cuz I've never had the money in power you guys What I mean is I've worked platinum I've went four times go back. That was when 23 So let me give you an example. Across the world. When I say power,

I don't think... The type of power you're talking about, I might not be able to relate to. Okay, well... I'm actually as a student right now, and I don't want to sit back and listen. No, I'm just saying, so what happens is,

for example, so in 05, I met Obama, right? Somebody introduced me to President Obama. Well, at that time, he was Senator Obama. I'm just giving you an example. I'm giving you a quick example. In Obama. Well, at that time, he was Senator Obama. I'm just giving you an example. I'm going to give you a quick example.

In Chicago. Chicago. So then, Obama, in 06, he's about 07, he makes the announcement. Sorry, 06,

he makes the announcement. We all knew him. We started to support him, whatever, get the grassroots going on. He becomes president. He was a guy who, now,

the most powerful man on land, whatever, he still pretty much was, now things gonna change obviously, right? There's things that he's not gonna be able to do that he did when he was a junior senator. But the essence of who he is,

stay in time. Now, I had another friend of mine, he know who this guy is, she knows who he is, this in tact. Now, I had another friend of mine. He knows who this guy is. She knows who he is. This guy named Sweet Miki, a.k.a. Michelle Martelli. The president. Okay, president.

I may become president of Haiti. Facts. So, this dude, because he wasn't used to that kind of power. Bro, power is like a drug I'll put it like this to you if you have a hot fucking record try performing let me tell you

something in front of a hundred thousand people where you drop this record and everybody know that song I promise you wings gonna come from your back and you gonna think you can fly that's the power right so when you getting all of this

people who are enamored by you who are like oh my god you this you this it does something to the psyche not everyone can handle it you know what I'm saying to you so I knew and felt yeah this ain't gonna end well

but it's all good cause it's a journey I'm all about the journey right not so much about the end but I knew I had to make sure my end is gonna be secure so I'm gonna go through all the bullshit cause I love journeys

cause that's what makes characters Right, so I was with it, but I knew day one And I'm good I thought it was still a great experience despite now whatever I wish Things would have been different. Yeah, of course. Why not? Listen, if you win a championship, you're going to want to win a couple more championships. Hell yeah. Right?

We would love five. Right. One ain't enough. One is not enough. But, hey, do you know the average person who gets in can't even say they got to win? So, I'm good. What can I say to you? Wait, say that one more time.

The average person who's in, not even the average person, the average person who's in the game can't even get one. Now, think about it. The average person who's in the game is above everybody else because they got the game. It's like an NBA. That nigga who's riding the bench is actually a hot nigga. He just ain't hot enough to play on the game. It's like an NBA. That nigga who's riding the bench is actually a hot nigga. He just ain't hot enough to play on the court, but he's hotter than anybody else who ain't in the

game. But he's riding the bench. He probably never dribbles the ball, even at practice. But he hot. And that nigga never dribbles the ball, and he's above average. As far as anybody else.

Your steps ain't too? No, you broke that down crazy. You broke that down crazy, god damn it. Let's make some noise for the great crowd. Thanks for having me, man. That's the thing, you know, that's the beautifulest thing about you is how happy you are.

It's the one thing me and your friend said to each other. We said, yo, and I seen you at the Global Spin. Right, right, right,

right. And when we see each other, we was like, yo, he looks just so sober. Are we supposed to invite him? You look just so sober, just so focused.

Like, we didn't know we would be disrupting You looked so sober and so focused. We didn't know we'd be disrupting your view. Now, have you always been sober? I've never smoked a drink in my whole entire life. That's why, to be honest with you, when I first heard about this, and obviously you would give a shout out, you'd be like, yo, Fuji's the best band. My people would come to me, my people would be like, yo, nobody gave you a shout out, You'll be like, yo, Fuji's the best band. You know, my people come to me.

Yeah, my people be like, yo, we gave you a shout out. So I'm like, oh, shit, that's hot, whatever. But I knew, like, when you invited me, I was just like, man, what the fuck am I going to talk about on this show? Because I don't drink. Right. I don't smoke. I'm on this shit. Like, I'm definitely on my money shit, getting the bag.

But at the same time, you know, I'm not on no fuck nigga shit. You see what I'm saying to you? No, neither are we. No, no, I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying, like, I think there's an audience that probably want to hear maybe something else and not so much on some intellectual shit. I don't know.

I'm just saying. Notice, we ain't asking none of those questions. That's not what we do over here. OK, OK. We respect hip hop over here. I don't know if you know that. Oh, I know that. Yeah, I know. We respect hip hop over here. I don't know if you know that. Oh, I know that. I don't know.

We respect hip hop over here. Y'all got to make some noise for that. Let's hear it. Let's make some noise. Let's continue. Let's continue, bro. But yeah, but K, like I said to you, man, I can't. And this is no fake shit.

How could we not be happy, man, as black people? You're part of the culture. Everybody who's here, I'm just saying the culture, right? What we accomplished, man. What is feeding our families, man. Yes, that's the beautiful part. How could you not be happy? Yeah, we got some days, man, shit's fucked up.

Bro, you know how many times I feel like pulling out guns, man, and busting my shit? You know, I don't have any guns, but I'm just saying, if I had a gun, I would bust my shit. But, still, what is there to be angry about? What? Like, I just can't be angry, man. I'm just, I just can't be angry. That's a beautiful thing. I'm grateful, man.

I'm so fucking blessed. I pray three times a day, but I'm not Muslim. But I pray three times a day because God is so... What he's done... And by the way, let me say this to you. Let's look at, and without getting deep into it, but then let's look at

the blacks in our culture who's not as fortunate who's getting killed by cops who are being marginalized, can't afford health insurance Gotta fucking go on the hustle because when they could be doing something else, right? Think about all that shit and we hit we made it yo, we by the way We're not

einstein We're not that fucking smart We just made a couple Good moves and got a little bit of luck. And we were able to keep our nose clean to a certain extent while we're here. We're in Hollywood Hills, B. Look at that fucking view right there. God damn it.

That's your problem. We're in the low-wild office. This is my people's right here. You know what I mean? We love these people. Look at that. Damn it. And look. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We love these people, look up. Damn it. Whoa.

And look, by the way, this is a black man. Yes, thanks. A black man who got this beverage popping. It's a black man who got headphones going on. It's like, come on, bro, this is us. I'm back. Highline, I do not. And it doesn't make us anti-anything for being pro.

No, no, stop. Yo, bro, listen. Yeah. My new theme is this for the black culture. What? We got to go where we celebrate it and not tolerate it. That's correct. Fuck being tolerated now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That should be, that's the standard. That's what it's got to be. And listen, and that's not a racial thing. That's what it had to be. And listen, and that's not a racial thing. That's real shit. Like, if I'm going to sit there and I'm going to go to somewhere where somebody's going to celebrate me and they're going to sit down and say,

Nori, we love what you guys represent, and then these other people on this other side, they don't want to, and they're considered the people that's of our culture. I'm not doing that. I'm fucking with the people who's fucking with me. 100%. And that is not racial.

No. That is not. That is feelings. Yes. That's vibes. It's 100% vibes. What did you say? Vibes.

It's vibes. Let's make some noise for vibes. I don't give a fuck. What that, just vibes. Okay, let's make some lotion vibes. I don't give a fuck. What that, you know. And let me big up to my friend, Charlamagne, real quick. I remember us shopping the food show. And at one point,

I had, you know, these two phenomenal deals, right? God bless me for being blessed. I'm sorry. I got to relax? No, you can't. I can relax. You tell me.

But I had these two, and then I called Charlemagne, and I said, what's up? And he said, I like to do business with people who like to do business with me. Very simple. But it's very complicated.

What he just said. And it reminds me of you know, while we're at the Lowell's office right now is because it's crazy. Prior to me even meeting these people, I was buying their product. That's how the I was buying their product so the universe

works the universe work you know they say I like to do business with people they say who'd like to do business for me put it out this fucking fantastic I'm not gonna start somebody should have filmed that, wrote it down. Oh my God. I'll give y'all some Gandhi shit. Right there, you can have it. I'm so sorry. It's the universe. You put it out of the universe, it's gonna conspire for you. Yeah, I mean, shit, we did this for free.

I'm talking about before the six months. We were doing Sirius XM. We were doing XM before the merger, Sirius XM. Out of our studio For years for free, but you know, it's so funny. This is what I tell everyone First do what you love that money is gonna come I agree if you chasing that bag first It's not gonna come yo, you gotta do what you love it's already blocking the bag love now you like in the you on fire right now yeah it's 100 it's 100 when you do but but but that's

but uh i agree one one million percent but it's your heart when you follow the love from your heart it's just it's gonna, it's going to follow. It's going to follow. But most people, it's bozo. Yo, Zoe Dolls, where you going, man? I wasn't going to bat for two. I've been holding my stuff for a long time, my brother. I feel like you should get it.

I finished it out. Take a picture. Come on. I got to check. We're about to be done. We're about to be done. But listen, I want to appreciate you guys. First of all, I want to appreciate Prize for Prize.

You know, OG. Yeah. OG. Continue to just be who you are. Like when I sent you at the Global Spin Awards. Global Spin Awards. And we sent you at the... Global Spend Awards? Global Spend Awards, and we sent you, we were nervous, you know we were nervous to invite you.

Yesterday, what? Wasn't it yesterday? No, but we were nervous two days ago. We was nervous to invite you, and we said, damn, he don't look like he drink anything. And we're like, damn, how can we invite him to drink champs? And he looked, and i don't i think you said you didn't invite me and i said so you're crazy you're 100 million percent welcome but you

were just so focused like how can a person be in this game 20 years and still have the focus face, is you? Because at the blink of an eye, you can lose it all. Amen. Somebody let's just slow clap. Let the church say amen. Slow clap. Slow clap. Slow clap. That beat is a hot song.

So what do you do? You sit around and you just become? No, I mean, listen, I don't want people thinking like I'm a monk or anything like that, but it's not frowned upon over here but continue no but I just look at listen man I I go to Haiti I've been to I was in Iraq two years ago on the borderline with Isis I was in North Korea been in parts of Africa where you got a bunch of people their dream is to one day be able to have a decent meal. That's what they dream about. They don't dream about the watch, whips. They

don't dream about that. They dream, man, if I can have one decent meal. And when you experience that bro you gotta have some form of humility and say I'm complaining about my Wi-Fi is too slow I'm complaining because they didn't have a pink Goyard bag and Goy. I'm living right into my go. How do y'all don't make pink? Yo one last thing I met this guy in Somalia to pick this Somalia Yeah, so he was he was a chef for the pipes He tried to escape to go- Let's be clear. The chef for the pirates in Somalia. Yeah.

He was in that movie we're talking about. What's the movie name? Captain- Captain Phillips. No, no. Captain Phillips. He wasn't that chef for the cat, but he just- It wasn't the chef. No, no, no.

They hired him. They hired him. The chef. Yeah. The boat after Captain Phillips. Because they had to cook food for the people, right? Go ahead. So, peak this.

Crazy story. Y'all got to listen to this. Got it. So, he decides he's going to escape because he had his family back in Somalia. They capture him. The way they punish him, they cut both of his feet off and sewed them backwards. Oh, man. Definitely thought this story was going to be funny at some point.

No, no. I didn't want to do a funny story. But what I'm saying, I didn't mean it. They sewed his feet back. So they took the right and put it on the left, the left on the right. So when he walks, he got to walk like this. Because his feet's back, right? And this dude comes, sit down with me.

I filmed him right I was doing this documentary on the pirates never came out But nobody says something crazy to me you did so foul this game up Yeah, huh? This is something working cuz the skit well, no, this is crazy. I told you I got kidnapped, but that's all different story Kidnapped by the pirates of Somalia Wait, that was a totally different story. That wasn't the skit roast Keep going I'm sitting down with the chef and I asked the chef I said

you knew they were going to capture you right he said of course because he has to jump off the ship swim swim ashore and try to run to the village and everybody in the village is a spy for the pirates because they take care of the village that's how they're able to

when people try to come find the ships they don't know nothing. Nobody know anything. Whatever, right? So I said, why you didn't? He said, he said, family is the only thing I had. So they had to cut half of my body.

It was all worth it because I got a chance to hold my baby. Now, I'm thinking to myself, wow. So when we sitting here complaining, I'm seeing niggas in the streets on some bullshit. Bro, listen, I have to be happy. You know, there's road rage out here. I just saw something the other day. Some nigga trying to run

a nigga over. His car flipped. I saw that. I saw that today. He tried to hit the dude and the shit flipped right there. Yo, like,

what are you mad about, man? Well, the nigga did spit on him. Okay, but the nigga was... But he ended up losing that one. Yeah, he tried to kill him.

You know what I mean? He tried to kill him and God was like You know what Not today You doing this too much You could have hopped out And beat his ass

But you would have killed the man He tried to run him over He definitely tried to run him over But the point I'm saying to you is So when you see that I'm happy It's because like I said man There's so many things That makes me happy

Like genuinely happy And I think that's what Has been giving me blessings That's like when I see, you know, Steph and I see like Joey Dolls like... God bless them.

Because when I was coming up, I didn't have that. We didn't have... To look at somebody else and big them up. Right. And give them that inspiration.

Right. We didn't have that. Matter of fact, coming up with the Poojies, motherfuckers was pretty much shooting shots at us. You know, we're Asian. this thing going on and all that, you know me so We've never heard that I saw that so no you guys never said I would find that internally. Yes, it's a little bit. But anyway That's all I gotta say man. Thank you for having me here, man. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Thank you a lot.

This is the longest piss I've ever had in my whole life. Yeah, me too, man. Please, I don't know where the bathroom is. Please help me out. Hold on, we gotta take a pic though. No, no, no. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable,

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