Drink Champs - Episode 127 w/ Matt Barnes

Episode Date: May 29, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with basketball veteran turned film producer Matt Barnes. The guys talk Matts extensive NBA resume, some of the controversies surrounding him, hip hop and upcoming film projects involving Death Row, and the Black Panthers. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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right the million question that everybody wants to know do NBA players move up I can't talk about other NBA players I did in the NBA and out in the NBA let's make some noise for that. I've seen, like, you know, when people get hurt, they prescribe, like, pills and all that shit. Like, I was just, I had an injury in my knee area earlier, and I smoked a blunt. I just totally forgot about it. Like, it was just, what do you feel about that? I think you're right. I mean, they don't care if we,

you know, get fucked up on alcohol and make a mess with that. You know, and then that prescription business is a billion dollar industry. You know what I mean? So I think that's what it is. But, I mean,

knowing that in the 15 years in the NBA, all it took for me was a joint. I didn't need none of the other bullshit. So I just smoked me a joint at the end of the night

and it'd be fine. And he stayed on probation. He was like the criminal of the NBA. so I just smoked me a joint at the end of the night I'd be fine and he stayed on probation he was like the criminal of the NBA he stayed on probation you just gotta you know you just gotta be I played a long time and learn from my vets you know you just gotta be able to maneuver the system like I said I'm not somebody's gonna be popping pills and drinking all kinds of alcohol I'll drink on occasions but you know me I'm a I'm a medicator you know what I mean so I just you know found ways to make it work that's this you are Gucci down to the

socks what's going on okay they tell me when I when your name was brought up they said she's right that way is that the truth so I mean I'm respected I'm not gonna say I'm going to like nobody a little pull. What happened when you were on Ray J? What was that about? Damn. It went straight for it. What happened? What's going on, sis? So, it was an old school concert. Uh-huh.

And for people that don't know, I'm Shug Night's niece. Make up Shug Night, goddammit. Did a lot for this city, goddammit. Thank you. So, it was like one of those concerts. Like, Snoop was there. Warren was there. Like, it was like people from Death Row that were there, and I was like really excited to see him.

So we were walking in the hallway, and he bumped me. Word. So he was like, bitch, you saw me, and the spirit left my body. Because I'm like, you seeing one wish. Like you're an RBC. You're not even really supposed to be here, first of all. Like you ain't seen no hook on none of this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?

But y'all knew each other before this? Yeah. Oh, so he knew it. Yeah, he knew it. So it wasn't like he didn't know. I thought that was your first encounter. No. I'm thinking, maybe it's excusable.

No. So he just got, like, you know, real tough. And I guess he thought Wack 100 was somebody and it was going to do something. And Wack said, you probably need to go on apologizing Gambino was there, Gambino, he was there and Gamb was like Ray J You might need to go and apologize this is not gonna end well Now the fight between him and Badass had nothing to do with him because I would have got somebody that could beat him up to Beat up to fight Ray J so that had nothing to do with me after Black Tone

Rectified it and made him, I was done. So Badass and Ray J had that beef from back with Suge. You know, it's some old

death row shit. Okay. Now, are you involved in this death row thing as well? Now, explain to us

for like people who don't know, like explain your involvement with the death row thing. I mean, just really produce. You know what I mean?

I saw Vision, you know, Polly and I linked up about five years ago. I've been rocking ever since. Film production, right? Yeah, the first thing I ever said is, man, Suga's the only one that hasn't told his story yet. Wow. Everyone has told it. And this is before I knew Straight Outta Compton was even coming out.

I'm just like, no one's heard from Suga. No one's heard from Suga. I just kept trying to ingrain that in her head. And then Straight Outta Compton came out and then Tupac came out and all these other movies came out. I'm just like, you know, Suge was the mastermind, really, you know,

behind this whole death row movement. And his story would, you know, is compelling and still going on. And you're raised, you're born from California. I'm in the Bay, Sacramento, and then I've been in L.A. since I was 17. I went to UCLA. So I just, you know, I grew up around, you know,

California music my whole life. So what did you think about the Tupac movie? Because, be honest, be honest. You know you'll get to you next then. Yeah, it was, it was, uh, I don't know, I had mixed feelings, you know, obviously I still even, watching the movie I got chills in some parts and was still excited to see, but... Because dude looked like him for sure. Yeah, but to me I just wanted to know some, you know, more about what I didn't know, you know what I mean?

It was scary, I seen him the other day and I still... Me too. I was like, oh shit, I didn't even know how to say it. They casted that perfectly in terms of... Overall, I liked it. Like I said, I wanted to get more information that I didn't already know about it. But overall, it was a cool project. Now, what is this Death Row thing? Is this going through stars? Is that what this is? It's in the process, yeah. So I linked up with one of the creator-producers of Stars,

and he loved the pitch, loved the project. So he said it's going to be the next biggest thing. What is the project? It's going to be a series. Oh, a documentary type of thing? No, like a power type. Oh, I'm in for that. So we'll be able to really, you know,

and I explained to her because she gets in her feelings sometimes when she hears stuff about sugarge and it's always bad and I try to tell her, like, unless you have a larger platform, you have to tell people what they are, you know, basically, like, Suge is known for being a larger than life thug or whatever the persona may be. So, you know, my idea when I pitched,

you know, was trying to talk to her about was, you know, if we do a series that we can go into every character and develop the character and show the good, bad, and the good side and the good side With me and with that for to do it with death row Yeah, that's actually you know what made me think of it was I'm a big Norco span and it's fucked up as I was And blowing up buildings and killing kids. They had enough time to tell you Even at some point.

I think Suga wasn't killing like that, but Suga has some bad shit in his past, but if you're able to develop his whole story, you'll be able to tell the good with the bad. You're right because I think Suga's even in the Biggie movie. You're right. Is there ever going to be a Suga night movie? Does that make more sense as opposed to as opposed to, like, Death Row?

Wouldn't this be a Death Row movie? No, you can't tell a Death Row story in two hours. And based on the lot, okay, the people's truths that they told in their movie. Wait, hold on. Is that how you felt about the Tupacs? People told their truths. Like, in the movie, like, Stratton Compton, that was their truth. Michelle A. had her truth.

This L.T. Hutton that only knew Tupac for 75 days, he had their truth. Michelle A. had her truth. This L.T. Hutton that only knew Tupac for 75 days, he had his truth. I felt like John Singleton should have kept that. You know, John Singleton... He talks about it on our podcast. John Singleton knows Pac,

and you can't talk to John Singleton without John even crying. Like, if you say something about Pac, John gets emotional. And so, like say something about Pac, John gets emotional. And so, like, he was like, you know, I think LT did it for the wrong reason. I don't feel like LT did it to glorify Pac. I just felt like, oh, they did a Biggie movie.

I'm going to do a Pac movie. Like, what do you know about Pac besides the shit that you Googled? You know what I'm saying? You could Google that and I couldn't do that on lifetime So you do is really seriously you said he really didn't know fuck like that I mean everybody You know when people die now and they put you in heaven and you know So it was like.

She can't be real. She can't be real. It's just like how you go to a bad person's funeral and they try to act like he a good nigga. He's a good nigga. He didn't shout at you yesterday, nigga. You know what I'm saying? He looking down on you. He looking up.

So I'm just saying, like, you know, when a person dies, you can't verify. So I can say, like, you know, like, I'm going to use my grandmother. My grandmother died. So I can tell you a whole bunch of stories about my grandmother. She's not here to say if it was true or not. That's how I feel about the two-part one. That's how I felt. And I felt like everybody does something, and they always say, you know, focus on the negative for Shug.

But they don't remember, like, there's certain people, like, I remember Shug was paying people's, people's mothers was losing their houses, and Shug paid their houses off. You know what's very interesting to me, right, which is the most interesting thing about, like, the Shug, when I hear other people talk about Sh is always Daz and Corum because Daz I think Daz it doesn't like always says something amazing about sure can this like crazy like but remember who was this who was the strongest person in the in the dog pound it was corrupt. And corrupt Carrie dads through the whole fucking, you know, so, you know, you know, you understand what I'm saying?

That was amazing to me. Like, one of them bigs him up and one of them doesn't. That's like, to me, I felt like,

you know, like, you know, Master P only gave Silk Shocker a record deal because that was his brother. He know Silk couldn't rap. So,

I felt like, so I felt like, she couldn't like She couldn't She couldn't She couldn't She didn't even Have a shot yet We used to get her a cup

This every day So I So I feel like You know Because Dad's With Snoop's cousin They was like Come on Dad's

You know That's how I felt And then so Niggas was fucking With their feelings Like these hoes Was for everybody So you mad at Shook

Cause he was fucking A bitch Shook Shook would get in your head if you let him. You know, so you got to, you can't like, don't look him straight in the eyes

and don't feed him after midnight because the motherfucker is going to get you. Right. So, but, you know, a person only will do to you what you allow them. So that's the whole thing with Suge.

So people can say Suge did a lot of shit, but he like made a lot of motherfuckers rich. He did. Well, actually, when you think about it, way death row was was structured for a black company a hip-hop own company Was one of the most brilliant things they were selling some of the most records ever You don't say and they'll never have a

Another era like that. So he has to be he has to be his memory can't die You gotta think in the time span, too, it was only two years. They made it seem like it was a ten year process. That was crazy. That was the amount of projects to put out in those two years. And then you know everybody on Death Row had something out. They wasn't shelving people like maybe assign people and have them sitting on the shelf, paying them people.

But I feel, but- She's not standing there. Well, each artist had a project. Whether it blew up, everybody was working. And I like the fact that he got people, local people, because Chug knows everybody. Like, him and Mary J. Blige are good friends. Right. Like, but he got Jewel to sing on Tupac shit.

He got, you know, Michelle Ladis. He could have went out, but everybody, it was an in-house thing. He didn't go outside to grab anybody. If it was somebody outside, like, you know, Pac, of course, you know, from his whole Oakland roots, he reached out to Richie Rich. He reached out to, you know, the people that did the All Eyes on Me. So that's something about Shud that, like, I admire because he took care. And I think Shud took care of too many people and he got himself in deep.

You know what I'm saying? Because you only, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know how niggas get rich and, you know, you buy homies. You know what I'm saying? But I just felt like that was his whole downfall, just not leaving the hood. Just not, you know. Yeah, sometimes you gotta you gotta outgrow the hood like i don't care how how much you want to keep it real there's certain doors you got to walk in by yourself you know i'm saying it's no matter how much you want to hold the homie down or whatever mom what was your

what was your favorite team you played for every team probably uh the 2007 Warriors. The first time, the We Believe team. I thought you were gonna say the Lakers. Nah, the Warriors. I mean, the Lakers are my favorite team all time. Still my favorite team. I loved when I was there fucking with Kobe and them. But the favorite team I played on was definitely that Warriors team. Do you think, um...

I'm surprised you said the Warriors. But do you think the NBA is too soft now? Oh, yeah. Like, I remember, like, there used to be fist fights in the NBA. I mean, I was getting suspended before I got, before I retired, I was getting suspended too good for pushing people. For pushing. For pushing, or cussing at a rep. This is a game of suspension.

Back in the day, you used to really be scrapping it. It would just be like hockey. Go sit down for a second, then, you know, come back at the game. But it's different. But I understand where the NBA is trying to go. They're obviously trying to clean up their image, and they want people to score a lot of points. You know what I mean?

So that takes away from the defense and the physicality of the game. So you just got to adapt and get left behind. And, you know, I'm glad that, you know, I had my run when I had it. I wish it could have been a little bit more physical. I grew up watching, you know, the Pistons and the Lakers and the Pistons, the Boston Celtics and the Bulls back in the 80s. You know, that's what I wanted, you know, was hoping it would be like when I got there.

But it was cool while it lasted, but it's definitely a lot softer now. But like I said, I understand where they're trying to take the league. Who was the person that you played against and you was like, you never wanted to play against them? Like, it was hard. It wasn't that I never wanted to play against them, because I always wanted to play the best best because I was the one every night that I had to guard the best player so I was guarding LeBron Colbert KD. You know whoever mellow

Ginobili D. Wait, so you would like the renegade love every I love it. Yeah, I love that part So it wasn't no one I didn't want to play against like the better you were the more I want to play against you But I would probably say the coldest dude I played with was definitely Kobe. Right. Monster. Kobe? Kobe. Okay. You played with Kobe, too? With him and against him, yeah. So you're saying

you're picking up for both? Yeah, both. Wow. That's dope. He's just a different beast. Now, I heard something about Tom Brady, like how he trains

with his people. Mm-hmm. Is Kobe like that? I mean, I worked out. I think there's a misconception in him because if he doesn't fuck with you, he's not really going to fuck with you. But if he I mean, I worked out. I think there's a misconception in him because if he doesn't fuck with you, he's not really going to fuck with you. But if he opens up, he's cool. There were several times where I would drive out to Orange

County for the night and work out with him the next day. We hit the track, hit the weight room, work out. So he and I definitely bonded, but as far as other people, I'm not sure. I know now he's kind of mentoring some of the younger guys, which I like seeing because his knowledge, his understanding of the game is endless. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.

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Like, I did talk to people I hated. I'm sorry, I'll tell you. I'm not going to die. Because I think, you know what I mean? When you're a team, you're with your team more than with your family. We were with each other every single day, all day. That's what I'm about to ask you. How is that cut-mobility? Because you guys are like 16 players on a basketball team. You guys just meet each other, and then all of a sudden you guys are going to hit 48 states. The chemistry is different. You gotta remember all men is naturally like

alphas. We're all naturally alphas. This is the best of the best. So how does that work? I think what is the chemistry is most important and we know you when you're able to play with a bunch of great players and keep the egos aside that's when you have something special. They say that the way you know somebody is either you go to jail with them Well, you're going to all with them. Yeah, and then you will know exactly who they are Yeah, I mean obviously that you know, there's people you may mess with more than others But I can't really say that there's people you just completely dislike on team. I've never been on the team like that So ask me if he ever played on a team

Okay, yeah, what TV What team he play with? This is not my, where the camera at? I don't know what to do with this shit right here. Don't try to hold this shit with me. It's this guy, I ain't gonna even say it. Please, please, please. Well, Austin Rivers, because like Austin Rivers got the, Austin Rivers, that's Doc Rivers, right? Yeah, Doc's little girl.

Okay. It's like he, he um, Here you go, smoking. If the case is below all joints, we got an NBA player to smoke on camera. We doing it. We doing it, man. We doing it, man.

And first of all, hold on. Hold on. I forgot. Let's pick up the Hitman coffee for hoaxing us today. This is a dope spot. You can come here. It's a lounge. It's private.

You bring your own thing. You come here. You burn it up. But, okay. Now, who's he talking about? I don't like players that have the Kobe arrogance but not the Kobe game. And that's how he is. Like, you would think he was, like, really Kobe.

And I'm like, bro, come on now. You just on the team because your daddy is the Kobe. Keep that saying, man. You know. So I didn't like Austin. I didn't. Matt loves everyone. Oh, you mean politically correct?

I know it's the business You know what I mean So whether you know You really fuck with someone or not At the end of the day You trying to win a championship So you want You know you want to

Make sure you know I mean I was the first person That came up to Austin And told him you know LA is a little different You know what I mean It's more than just basketball You need me being

You know how that You know what I mean So that's the way I look at things And I may not be A best friend To hang out off the court But I fuck with all

Of my teammates Right So what is the best Era in basketball Oh What was the best Era like I look at things and I may not be a best friend to hang out off the court, but I fuck with all of my teammates. Right. So what is the best era in basketball? Oh. What was the best era like? Celtics, Lakers. Whether you was involved or not, whatever you think is the best era in basketball.

Man, probably late 80s, 90s. What are we talking about? And there was a lot. I mean, obviously, you know, with Kobe and them. We're talking Berg. Yeah. Oh, I'm not going to wait too far. Yeah, no, Berg, Magic. Jordan, Magic.

Magic. You know, the Knicks back then. Like the first Dream Team era? The 92. Yeah, the first Dream Team. I mean, that was a great time of basketball. A lot of amazing Hall of Famers. And they really got to play physical basketball.

You know what I mean? There wasn't no flag football type shit out there. So that's what I grew up watching and loved and wished that the NBA could have stayed that way just a little longer. OK. What's the best era in hip hop? Ooh, the 90s. The 90s, god damn it.

You said that without hesitation. God damn it. Thanks for the noise. What do you think? No, you don't care, man. The 90s? There's no question about it. OK, now when you say the 90s, you talking Def, bro?

No, I'm talking about music. The whole decade of the 90s. East coast, west coast, everywhere in between. You know what I mean? Because it was real music. It wasn't you couldn't get away with putting out no you could get away put anybody could put an album out to know where a song was and it's disappointing you know what i mean i think music would be a whole lot different if pop and biggie were still around because i think you would have to they'd have to have bars so high right and you can't get out a big time

there's a lot of you know those two come to mind at most, but a lot of bullshit slides through the crack these days because, I mean, one, because of social media, but two, it's just because there's no one really holding motherfuckers accountable. Like, when you think about it, Pac and Biggie was 24 years old. Babies. They were 24. Like, that's crazy.

They would really be OGs now. They would just now be OGs. That's crazy. Because they would be in their 40s now. Yeah, they'd just be becoming 40s now right somebody told me they were like nine or something when Pac died

I was like fuck shit like I was I think I miss that do you ever get mad when you see like

these younger generation people who don't who don't really respect like the OGs they don't respect like

because at the end of the day right I heard you say earlier you said you're 40 right 44 and everything. Who don't really respect like the OGs. They don't respect like because like at the end of the day, right? I heard you say earlier you said you're 40, right? 44. You're 44. Okay, I'm 40, right?

Fuck you. So our era like even if we didn't respect our elders we didn't let them know that. Yeah, right. Like we would I'm fucking with you.

We would be like I ain't fucking with you whatever. But when they around we were showing them respect. We're doing, this nowadays, this generation,

they don't give a fuck about what came before them. I'm glad you asked me that. Right. I'm going to say, there's just a particular person that, I'm just going to say his name,

Wepa Honey. I feel like the way that he disrespects legends is like, it's just like, it's just disrespectful. Like you said, like, we grew up, like, you know, we respected our elders. And then for him to get on and he said some things about Pac and Pac's mother. Bro, you never knew Pac. You came around with Def Roe when she was getting out of jail and trying to pick up the pieces.

You never met Pac. So you can never say that, you know, as a person, as, you know, however you feel about, you know met Pac so you can never say that you know as a person as you know however you feel about you know Pac you know like even like I wasn't I didn't listen to

East Coast Rap when we were beefing with Bad Boy you know what I'm saying that was forbidden we couldn't listen to that I used to sneak and listen to Hypnotize

you know what I'm saying so that is a dope story so for him to everywhere I go someone has love about Pac, you know what I'm saying? Except for bitch ass Funkmaster Flex. But everybody else, like, they always, no matter how you feel, you're going to say something.

Pac was dope. Big was dope. Like, we love Biggie out here. You know what I'm saying? And they love Pac in New York. So, for him to get on here and he to say that Pac was this and Pac, for you not to even know this man. And then speak ill of this man. And then bring his innocent mother into it.

That's disrespectful. Then he gets on line and then he disrespects Bone Thug and Harmony. You cannot take anything away from Bone Thug and Harmony. If they smoked a mountain of cocaine a fucking day, that's not your... Why are you judging these people? They actually are legends. You know, bones still sell out shows.

You know what I'm saying? And you're just on social media being disrespectful for it. And I just hate the whole disrespect behind people nowadays. You know what I'm saying? For the little boy, little Yachty

or whatever his name is, he said he was better than Pop. How? Oh, yeah, that was horrible. How? That was horrible. You can't wrap a present. How you gonna say you better?

You know what I'm saying? That was a good one. You better than Pop? But I think, too, it's a different time now because I think showing love to somebody is showing weakness,

motherfuckers think. You know what I mean? We don't respect this cool doctor showing love no more. I look at it like, you know me we don't respect this cool Dr. Shalala, I look at it like you know how a a I went at Jordan like he went It was out of love it was like respect like I want to be but want to go after good You want to be great so go be great at the same time To respect because I mean at some point if you're going at him they kind of paved the way for you to begin with

You know I mean, but I just said I think today in society, it's not cool. Motherfuckers don't show love. They would rather hate 10 out of 10 times than really just pay that man his respect. But what if in these certain weird scenarios, it's actually a person's opinion? Like, what if that is? Like, you know, certain times it's hate, right? Certain times I can be like, yo, I don't like this. And it can really be coming from a hateful thing.

But what if there's certain scenarios? You can't be mad at someone's opinion at the end of the day. And they can work it the right way, too. You can't, and you can't not disrespect it. Like, I'm a Tupac fanatic. But there's a lot of Tupac songs that I don't like. Like, Matt is like, Matt would listen to every song Tupac ever did. Tupac rapped at ABCs.

Wait, what song do you like Tupac? You don't like that. No, I'm just saying. I'm trying to think of one I don't like man He had a lot of songs He had a lot of shit I'm saying like Matt as Tupac

Has a song Rapping the ABCs Matt gonna listen to it Like he listen I'm not saying I'm not I don't like it I'm not

I'm saying like If it comes on Like I don't have to Necessarily hear it I would skip it Right You know what I'm saying So

Right I'm saying like And that's my opinion Right That's my opinion Right Like to me A lot of Pac shits

You know you can You know some people Are like oh I can Listen to All Eyes On Me And not skip a song Right That's not me I'm not gonna front

And say You know what I'm saying Like there's some Shepherds who are like Fuck with this today But it's certain songs And certain CDs That you can listen to

You know like My favorite Tupac CD Was Me Against The World Because Me Against the World. Me Against the World, baby. Yeah, I felt like he was more, like, you heard his heart and you heard, like, you know, so it was, like, passionate to me. And then All Eyes on Me was my revenge, bitch. You know what I'm saying? You know, the revenge, Macarelli, that was my revenge album.

You know what I'm saying? And, you know, people, like, Paksha got this man out of jail this man didn't shower shit nothing you know this man went to the studio I heard that is not so you're telling me that's 100% he went straight to the booth that is way more dedicated I have never been that dedicated in my life that's why I has so much material. I would have did a couple of things. He went straight to fire. Did you notice he dropped a song and then

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I didn't come out in the industry until 97. Well, yeah, 97 was my official breakout coming out. So I never met Pac. I never got to meet him. It hurts my feelings. Me too. I feel the same. That's how I feel about being.

I feel like I was right there every moment Pac was. I came after he left. It hurts my feelings. Me too. That's how I feel about being. I feel like I was right there every moment Pac was and I came after he left. He had just left. Like that type of shit. But as an outsider looking in this is just pure fan. I don't have no inside information

because I'm in the industry or nothing. It felt like Pac was always in a rush. Like he knew he wasn't going to be here that long. I mean in the lyrics he's talking like that. Okay. to be here that long. I mean, in the lyrics, he's talking like that.

Okay. And I'm outside. I don't have no inside information. As a person who actually was there... That's true, because, like, you know, I say, like, back to back. You see how fast

that double CD came out? So that shows you, like, he was rushing, and he had, okay, I got to get this done for this, and he'll do this. No, I don't like this. You know, let me, no, wait.

Yeah, you know, so, and it depended on what pop you got that day. You know, one day you might get, you know, might get Bishop. Right, right. The next day you might get, you know, he might feel bad for Brenda and her baby. You know what I'm saying? So it just depended on that pop, what pop you got that day because he truly was a Gemini. So it just really depended on... Was there ever any truth to him?

You know how they say that he was trying to record it as fast as possible to get the contract over with? That's not true. And I hate when people say... And that's another thing I said. People always say that that's bad shit about Shug. Shug took Pac's money. He was trying to take it.

That's when the conspiracy came up that Shug had something to do with you. No, first of all, there's no way. This is new documentary where they stare. Unsolved. Unsolved, right? Mm-hmm. And they're basically saying that. So I'll just.

That's some bullshit. Okay. People's like Like they always say Well Shit was taking Pac's money Understand Pac had a past

Before Pac We got Pac shot them cops Right He beat them brothers up Right Pac was being sued Pac had legal fees

So every little Two and few that Pac got Right Pac has to pay Right So it wasn't like Shit was like Hey Nuh uh You know And it was like Every little two and few that Pac got, Pac has to pay. Right. So it wasn't like Shib was like, hey, uh-uh. You know, and it was like Pac was his favorite.

Right. You know what I'm saying? I could tell that. Like his son. Yeah, I could tell that. And you know how people, they made it seem like Shib talked crazy to Pac? No, he didn't. You know?

No, he didn't. He didn't do that. Because Pac demanded him, he's's a man And he would always say I'm a man just like everybody That's why like Pac couldn't fight But he would fight You know what I'm saying

And his heart just was He just had a big heart So He didn't give a fuck He wasn't gonna like it You know If you say some shit to Pac And he know you gonna whoop his ass

He still gonna Okay but you still a bitch ass nigga And you still gonna take this ass whooping You know what i'm saying so it's just it's it the people make suge like and i'm not gonna say that suge is innocent like i love the sinner you're not gonna say he's an angel you mean right i love the sinner okay but i hate the sin you know what i'm saying so i'm not gonna say like meaning like i like the fucked up shit that he's done. But at the end of the day, that's my uncle. I love him. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for that. God damn it. Over here, drink chaps. God damn it. And it's just like, that's why

I can't wait to do the whole thing with stars, whoever we do it with. Like, because I want to tell the truth. People make it like Death Row was like a prison camp. No, we had fun. You sold 100 million records. There's no way I couldn't have had fun. So fun. Do you know,

I remember when Suge got the Hummer, I was like, the fuck is this thing going to stole some shit from the Army base? Do you understand like a kid from Compton and I'm seeing all this shit

like at one time? He got all people from Compton. Everybody from the hood. Whether their relationship went south or whatever, he still hired everybody from the hood.

You know, nobody from that hood can say, shit, didn't do nothing for him. If you think about that now, that is what Hove and Puff

is, you know, black excellence. And it's crazy. He was doing that because he hired people from the hood and obviously the people

from the hood was the same nationality. Shug paid for kids to go to college. Shug paid off people's mortgages. Shug, I mean, Shug did so much for people.

Like, you know, like he would buy the clothes, the cotton swap meet and do toy stories. Every, give away toys. Every year he did

a Mother's Day brunch because he's a mama's boy. See, people, Suge put, Suge, I ain't saying he no bitch, but Suge had a soft side. Suge's a mama's boy.

You know what I'm saying? So when women say, like Suge hit them, oh. Because Suge is afraid of his, you understand what I'm saying? Not, you know, like he has mommy fear. Oh. Because Suge is afraid of his mother. You understand what I'm saying? Right.

You know, like, he has mommy fear. Wow. So, for you to, like, he'll call a bitch a bitch. Right. Because a bitch, all bitches ain't women, but he'll call a bitch a bitch. Right. But as far as that hitting, like, he got too many homegirls and a niece, like, with the shit. He didn't have to do all that.

So, it's a lot of things that people have said that I want to clarify, you know. And I know I have to protect the guilty on a lot of shit. So but I'm excited to do that. I think that's why it's so important. Like, like I said, I've always had a vision of this project just being tell me what other label had Dre at his height. Snoop at his height. Pop at his height. Daz and Corrupt.

The list goes on. The list goes on. The list goes on. You know what I mean? The writers they had. You know what I mean? That's why I thought it was so important. I loved Straight Outta Compton. But to me, it was hard.

How do you tell 10 or 15 years of content in two hours? You can't. You know what I mean? So that's why when I pitched it to her about it being a series, it was just like... Similar to the new edition. If you remember, like, new edition story was told perfectly because it was a six. It was six episodes of two hours or some shit like that. So the backstory would be 137 commercials.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what you're saying. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying because she always tells me... What y Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, because she always tells me the good side of these other people. And I try to explain to her. She be getting mad when she sees depictions on the movie. I'm like, first of all, it has to be fit for a movie screen.

It has to fit a certain time frame. Woo, good. So you have to get mad. I'm talking about easy. Get mad, boss. You like a producer. Look at him. So you have to.

You sound like a directorial nigga already. Go ahead, man. That's what I'm doing. So that's why you have to show what they know. You can't show Suge as a mama's boy in anything right now until you have a chance to develop his whole story because you know Suge is the muscle. And Suge is hanging vanilla ice outside of a hotel, allegedly.

You know what I mean? So that's what you know, Suge. So you can't show Suge in that. So that's why we can really develop everybody. And then my whole thing is I don't know how everything, because I'm not, she was in that house, you know what I mean? So that's why we could really develop everybody. And then, you know, my whole thing is, you know, I don't know how everything, because I'm not, she was in it. I wasn't in it. But I just know that there's hard feelings, bad blood. But for me, for this project to be the best, and the production we got behind it and where it's going, I want to bring everybody back together.

Everybody. I'm talking about Dre. I'm talking about Snoop. I'm talking about Daz. You're talking about And I test my teller no matter who it is We all just need to sit down and figure out we all gonna figure this out and make this the best motherfucking show ever and then You want to the truth? The thing about it

I think me myself. I have to get past like I have she's a handful. I have anger issues. And especially when it comes to... I said that because... It's like I have that... Hey, don't mind me. I got a beast for him, but I'm going to text him and tell him I'm going to be a little late. When he comes, he likes Strada Compton. I can only watch it once. We went to see it.

I only watched it once. This is the first... Okay. So when I saw Strada Compton, I'm looking like, oh, wait a minute. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, wait, maybe this is a different Strider Compton. You know, the movie. Because the way that all this shit went down, I was like, oh.

You said in real life. In real life. Okay. When I watched the movie. And I'm like, that didn't happen. Oh, okay. And then for them to say that Eric Wright died broke. Come on, we're not going we'll save that for the show.

But Eric Wright, I don't like the way they portrayed Easy. You know what I'm saying? Right, bring it on. I don't like the way that. I want you to finish. I sincerely want you to finish. But what I'm saying is, sometimes, like in cinema, like we have. The one that makes Easy the bad guy.

Okay, that's what I'm saying. Like Alpo and Rich, right? have... Okay, this is what I'm saying. Like, Al Poe and Rich, right? These are these famous drug dealers from New York, and they remade this movie. So, and everybody in Paid in Full, this was a recreated story. They had to do this for

cinema. They had to make it that way. So, people from New York, we all knew that this is not the exact story of the way it went down, but we got to understand entertainment. Thank you. That's what he was saying. That's what he was saying. Tell her.

I helped you out. I'm the hot side. I love Straight Outta Compton because I didn't know the ins and outs that she knew. You know what I mean? So then she would tell me, well, this is how this part went. I'm just like, you have to understand, they can't go all the way that direction because they have to stay on point. They only have 90 minutes to tell this.

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and i think that's why i sold the pitch to not only her but the people we're working with now is because you have to be able to develop and tell. There's so many, now everyone's doing biopics and stuff, and you can't tell that much content in the amount of time they give you, so they have to leave a bunch of holes, so if you know, you can plug holes in. But if you don't know, it's whatever.

And that's how I want to develop. I just want to throw an idea out there. How crazy it would be, I know you're out in the talks with, and you're about to close it with stars, but how crazy would be the death row? You know, it's crazy crazy We have a... This is going to make you guys laugh,

but we all go to the same church. We all have... Puff and I, we all have... Bishop Noel Jones, we all go to the same church. So it was at one time, my pastor was trying to get Snoop... I mean, I'm sorry, trying to get Shug and Puff to sit down.

Wait, hold on, this is something You can't just say she's like that. I'm gonna be saving but The past oh Stretch out a little bit. He said the pastor. Mm-hmm Yeah, that's the bishop. No, John City of Refuge You know, we're good Ellie about right now. She done been in three fights in church, but that's another day. I get out where I'm at at. Come get out where I'm at at.

Hold on. Let's stay focused, though. Let's get out where I'm at at. You said your pastor was trying to get Shug. And Puff to sit down. Wow. Wow. And I think Puff was more willing.

Right. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, should. Like, see, people don't, you know, when you think about the Pock and Big era, with the shooting, you only think about Pock and Big. You don't think about the homies that died, you know, in the process. Also, you know, when that whole shit was going on, you know, people always say, you know, whatever, whatever. Somebody else

I know died that day, you know what I'm saying? So, you have to understand, like, people like, it's a soft side of shit, you know what I'm saying? And, um, I think, like I said, I think Puff was more, you know, willing.

What year was this? Like, what time frame is this? It was like 2013, just recently. Okay, you know, willing. What year was this? Like what time frame is this? It was like 2013, it was recently. Okay, so time had passed. Yeah. Well, imagine. Cause I haven't, the way that I actually met Puff was through Rick Ross.

Wow. I had just got out of jail. Wait, wait, another story. Wait, dad. Oh, well, well, well, I mean, I'm just telling the story. I'm just so comfortable with you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.

That's how you want, right? I just, I got. I feel like I knew you a million years, though. I just feel like that. Like, you know, you know how you like, you just meet certain people, you're like, oh, yeah, that's my people. Right. Like, I, like, you just, you're like, it's certain people you just click with immediately.

I'm sorry, but continue. So, um, I got out of jail, Rick Ross. Um, he, He Flew me in To Atlanta And he was doing The Oh Let's Do It Remix Oh let's do it

And so We We He introduced us And You know Puff was like Really receiving

He was really You know Like a good And I I mean Puff is like Dope as fuck to me. Right.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not a fan of Puff. You can't say nothing bad about, I can't say nothing, like I don't know, the only thing I'm really mad at Puff about, that I don't think I'm going to get over, is him not,

you know, keeping 112 out longer. That's my only beef with Puff. Yeah. That's my only beef with Puff, but I think Puff is like dope he's like creative you know what I'm saying it's like I would love to

like one day do sit down and maybe he and I can do some kind of shit like cause I really admire Puff and whenever he sees me it's love you know like I remember when Revolt first came when he was in the office in LA and he, like walked me around

and introduced me to people. I was like, whenever she comes up, she's good. Like Ross was going up there a lot as well. So he walked me through. They told me you messaged Ross.

But look, before we get, because you know, y'all got to get up out of here. Matt, I got to keep it real with you. What do we got to do to get Derek Fisher

out of here? That move, that move, that was a terrible move. Like, I mean, man to man. Like, I know you're a real nigga, right?

Like, I'ma light my joint. No, I'm just keeping it real. Like, this is man to man. Like, every real nigga in the world was on your side. Right.

Like, how did that feel? I don't mean that, mean in a respectful way because Like we wanted you to beat him I got you the world star. I got you We wanted you to actually say it though. Well, so Seen the way he was running around the house screaming I wish someone would have filmed this shit right my whole thing with that in before go off this story, let me tell you that me and him is cool now. Okay.

We cool. Okay. So I'll get to that. But my whole thing is. Give him the beats. Yeah. So when I talked to him, I told him, when we finally talked, I was just like, I don't agree with you dating my ex-wife.

Some fuck shit to me. It's still some fuck shit. We don't like that. But what pissed me off was you were staying in the house I was paying for with my children

and didn't tell me. Wait. You know what I mean? I'll repeat it. This is personal. You're staying in the house I pay for. Was you and him cool, bro?

Yeah, we were teammates in the Lakers. We was cool. I hung out, had dinner. Cool teammates. Had each other's numbers. He used to come to my events. See, I'm Puerto Rican. I would've stabbed him and stole it out. It was like, that just comes with had dinner, cool. Teammates had each other's numbers. He used to come to my events. See, I'm Puerto Rican.

I would've stabbed him, stolen out. It was like, I just come over. On some real shit, like a lot of niggas get killed for much less. Yeah. Killed for much less, if you want to keep it all the way real, so my whole thing when I told him was, I can get over the fact that, you know what I mean,

you fucking with my ex-wife, whatever. You know, I left her, I divorced her, I'm sure she was going to move on. I'm a paid nigga, I can't get over that. I'm sorry for that. So I wasn't pressable, but like, whoever knows me is my kids of my life. I'll die for them'm sure she was going to move on. I'm a paid nigga. I can't get over that. So I wasn't pressable. But like, whoever knows me is my kids of my life. I'll die for them. I'll kill for them. I'll do whatever it takes to make

them happy. That's who I am. So when you think you can just come and stay in my house and be around my kids without telling me, that's a real problem with me. Real problem with me. So I told him, if you would have came to me as a man and just told me, like, I don't know how you would have broke it to me, but I would have respected the fact. I would have been mad, but I would have respected you because have came to me As a man And just told me like I don't know how You would have broke it to me But I would have respected

The fact I would have been mad But I would have respected you Because you came to me as a man If you could come to me as a man That's how much I'm going to give you Like I said I'm not in love with her no more

So my main goal Is to keep my kids happy Right exactly So if that's the move That's the move y'all want to make That's the move y'all going to make You deal with whatever That comes with that

But if you would have came to me As a man And just be like Check this out bro This is what's going on I want to come to you first Before you heard this out, bro. This is what's going on. I want to come to you first before you heard it from anyone else.

And this is what's happening. I would have been like, that's what's up. But me and you know that's God code 101. Already. Oh, come on, man. It's something you can't,

it's something you just can't, you're not, real niggas don't do nothing like that. But he's from, where is he, from Arkansas? I'm not saying everybody out there, but I'm saying whoever, you know, whoever,

and them certain, come on, man. Like, for instance, my first marriage was with Capone's first cousin. Right. So the first day I met her, I told Capone. You got to. I said, yo, listen. That's it. Look, I have no idea, but I think I just fell in love with your first cousin. It's my friend. I seen her out in jail, so it's whatever. I'll have no problem saying that.

But it was up front, so now it's not like Tony in Scarface when the guy finds out. It's not like that. It was from the day. My little brother. We could talk about it. We could do whatever. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, that's what I told him.

When I approached him, that's what I told him. And we cool now. You know what I mean? Like, I squashed him at the end of the day. And what really made me squashed him, he always was fun. But I'm saying what made me squashed him was my kids. My kids really like it. Like, they live together now in the Valley.

You know what I mean? And I kept it so real with this nigga. I'm just like, you're going to be around my kids more than I am the way our divorce and my visitation and stuff. So you got to teach them how to be men and right and wrong and discipline them as you see, you know what I mean? Like, I gave him that kind of power. That's a lot of power, bro.

You know what I mean? And that's respect and as long as he's doing the right thing. Right, that's my whole thing. But my kids told me, like,

Daddy, we really like Derek. We want you to be friends with him. You know what I mean? And that's the only thing. I don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Nobody can't argue with that.

I got kids. I got six. I can care less about all the other people. I could have went the rest of my life just staring at the nigga every time, like, just wanting to know if I might whip his ass today or not. You know, I could have whipped his ass. You could still, every, like, every five, like, every five weeks to every five years, if you're still around, you still got to snuff it.

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If they happy, they happy. They happy. I just feel like that's all. I'm sorry. But it's crazy when that shit happen. I got love from the NFL, referees, owners, everyone that saw me on the streets, motherfuckers that did it. Every person with morals.

You know, you, you, you, that's what you should do. You should have moral gang. That should be your, your clothing line. Moral game. Because you run out of all the people with morals. You know, snakes cut the grass. You know, snakes just. What you did is, every person that had morals said, you know what?

We fucked with him. Right. And we hate this other guy. And I'm just saying, that's some dope shit, man. That's what it's supposed to be. That's what it's supposed to be. For being, for being, living the righteous way, man. And I want just saying, that's some dope shit, man. For being living the righteous way, man.

And I want to salute you for that. He's trying to rub that off on me. Because every time I see it, I... You don't believe in forgiveness? Like, I'm really like... God forgives and you don't? I know, I'm really like on that Pac shit. You know, Pac says, it's all for life.

That's really how I feel. Like, especially if you fucked up. Like, this is my best friend. So, and it's like, anybody that's close to me, like, I'm gonna have.

Did we have a sentimental moment right now? Did we have an awful moment right now? Yo, yo, yo, yo,

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yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo is my best friend. And, you know, it's like certain things like you can't get because that's, you can't really get involved because that affects his kids. You know what I'm saying?

Because like if he didn't have no kids, I would go nuts. You know what I'm saying? And I would let her. I wouldn't trip. You know what I'm saying? It's the fact that I have to respect it. Like if I see Derek, I can't be disrespectful because that could possibly affect, you know, his kids. You know what I'm saying?

It's actually a relationship. You know, I have a problem. If it was just, you know, a relationship, yeah, you got it. Yeah, if I don't like his baby's mother. That's all it is. I mean, I don't like her, but I'll always love her because she's the mother of my children. She gave me two. So I say all the bullshit she puts me, she gave me two beautiful boys.

And that's why I respect her. So I'll never take that. You know what I mean? So it's always. I've never, like, I won't see her and, like, slap her or, you know, do some stuff to her. Like, I respect her because that's, like, I would never do anything to affect his kids. That's what I'm saying. So she can do whatever she wants.

She can say what she wants to say, but God bless you. Right. So, all right. So now, what do we want to tell the people before we get about it? Because we know y'all got to go. And at least y'all want to smoke. I got more weed if y'all want to smoke. You know what I'm saying? before we get about it because we know y'all gotta go and they say I want to smoke I got more weed if you want to smoke. I really appreciate both of y'all for coming and just letting me you know into

y'all lives and you know and I like this type of platonic relationship right I like it. We fight like brother and sister man. I wasn't talking to her before she surprised me and came here. I didn't even talk to her since what? The other night? She popped up with me talking shit. It's real. We're going to leave the fans with. You guys got there for what?

What is it called? We haven't had this. We haven't had a name yet. We don't want to throw it out there. We got a lot of dope shit coming. Our goal is to bring everybody back together. He has the rights to the Huy P Noob story. He's about to do that. He's about to do that. We don't want to throw it out there. We got a lot of dope shit coming. Like I said, our goal is to bring everybody We got we got that we got the right

Huey P knew me that we got? We got the script and funding already. Like, we on that. OK, I get that. Because I need to know what that means, because I'm like at not at that type of level. So we going to get it. I need to know what you mean. So how do you do that?

So my partner, Courtney Benson, became tight with the Huey family, the Newton family. Bobby Seale, David Hilliard, the foundation, all of it. Okay, so you're not going to make a Black Panther movie. It's going to be called Power to the People, but it's going to be a Black Panther movie. So that's why I love all this movement right now.

Not the superhero about Black Panther. The real shit. You talking about? The real shit. The real shit. You know, the white people won't be mad at you. Yeah, but it's okay, because people get mad at the truth. Exactly. You get mad at the truth, people won't be mad at you. Yeah, but it's okay because people get mad

at the truth. Exactly. You get mad at the truth, you want to be mad at me, it's the truth. All right. So at the end of the day, I'm talking to my homeboy

Ryan Krueger that just did this last Black Panther. He's from Oakland. He used to play football. My little brother used to be in my house eating up all my food

and doing some other shit. I don't want to put that on camera. But that's my homie. You know what I mean? So he just killed, what are they at, 318 million and counting

right now. I think he's 85. Shout out Black Panther. You know what I mean? But I'm talking to him about doing this because, I mean, he's from Oakland. You know what I mean? So he just killed, what are they at, 318 million and counting right now? I think he's 85. Shout out Black Panther. You know what I mean? But I'm talking to him about doing this because, I mean, he's from Oakland. You know what I mean? He's got the pulse of Oakland. I want to make this so authentic and tell the story because.

It's a dangerous story. If you're not, if you don't know the Panthers. If you don't know the Panthers, all you think, when you see Black people trying to come together and force change, white people are going to be scared and they're bad. You know what I mean? But let's educate these people and let them know what they're about, about the program they have,

you know, single moms, and, you know, the food they provide. You know, all this stuff. There's bad shit, just like with Def Roe. Shit goes bad shit. But they did a lot of good shit, you know what I mean?

And I think now, with our crazy-ass president and just the way the world is so cool to be racist right now, you know what I mean? Like, now is the time to really show, like, that's what it is. And I think this is something that can become a movement, and everybody's going to jump racist right now. You know what I mean? Like now is the time to really show like that's what it is. And I think this is something that can become a movement

and everybody's going to jump on this shit. So we've had, since I announced that, if I would tell you the names that have hit me, the top of the top have hit me. A-A-triple-plus want to be a part of this. You know what I mean?

So we got something really special. I want T.I. to be in the movie. I just, T.I. has to be in. T.I. to be. T.I. Huey. No. T.I. to see you. No. Just in the movie. I need T.I. because T.I. has to be in. T.I.B. Huey, you know what? T.I. is a huey.

No. Just in the movie. I need T.I. because T.I. There's a lot of people who do that right now. Like, T.I. is so dope.

T.I. You know, this is a lot of... But you know, T.I. You know, T.I. was doing it before it was cool.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, people now are so, like, they want to be all powerful, but,

you know, T.I. was, you know, his militant shit from the beginning, so... Common was always on some shit right there. Yeah, Common. There's people who, like, that's why I think, you know, when you think of Beyoncé coming out with her concert, when, you know, T, I was, you know, his medicine shit from the beginning. Common was always on some shit like that.

There's people who, like I said, that's why I think, you know, when you think of Beyonce coming out with her concert, when, you know, she's sitting in the wicker chair with the shit, that's how she opened her concert. You always see Alicia Keys doing, you know what I mean? Like, this is something that we already authentically believe in. So that's why it was so perfect with this Black Panther superhero to kind of start the buzz. And then we hit on the real Black Panther story. I think that started the buzz with the Nat Turner story with the real Black Panther story. that started the buzz was the Nat Turner story,

actually. Yeah. Yeah, the Nat Turner story. It was like the little spark and then... Right, and then it opened the door.

You know what I mean? Like I said, people are going to be mad, they're going to be... But they're mad at the truth. You know, you're mad at the truth. That's not our fault.

You don't want to hear the truth. You don't want to hear how you deprived us for hundreds of years. You know what I mean? You don't want to hear that. It's a hard story. Right, but now we know, how you deprived us for hundreds of years. You know what I mean? You don't want to hear that. It's a hard story. Right.

But now we're in a position of power. You got to think, Ryan Coogler was a black man from Oakland, California. I went up to Disney to visit him while he was shooting this Black Panther. And we're walking around. We're the only black people we see besides this homeboy. You know what I mean? Like, we walk around a lot of Disney. He's in Disney.

Disney gave him $200 million. Black Panther was on Disney? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. $200 million. They know he's on Disney? Not $200 million. It's Marvel. Wow. $200 million. Black Panther was on Disney? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. $200 million. That was on Disney? Not $200 million.

It's Marvel. Wow. $200 million. He's a black man from Oakland. And it was his third film, right? Right. It was Fruitvale Station, Creed, and then that's it. You know what I mean?

What's Creed? The boxing shit that had Michael B. Jordan about Rocky. The new one. So this is still on Disney, too. Yeah. So he killed Fruitvale Station. Fruitvale Station was amazing. I see.

I'm a fan of this nigga. He killed Fruitvale Station. And he's only 30. Only 30 from Oakland. Like I said, he played college football with my little brother so it's just like to see him walking around Disney.

You know what I mean? Like who say walking around the White House and you know what he said. You know what I mean? It's uncharted territory

we're visiting right now. I ain't been invited to the White House or Disney. I gotta step my life up. What Trump doesn't know is What Trump is doing with all this bullshit, that race of ideologies and the people he has, he's bringing us together.

We realize, I think some black people got comfortable thinking, okay, we got money, we had a black president, we made it. These motherfucking white people still don't fuck with us. If you would have won a championship during Trump era, what you would have done? We did last year. We decided early on we wasn't going.

And remember, that's when he said something to Steph and all that. Like, we knew he wasn't going to the White House. Yeah, that was last season.

Yeah, we had no plan on going. They said that earlier. Yeah. They catch it. We had no plan on going. Yeah. Damn, yeah.

And that's when niggas did not go and say Trump. When we did, we had no plan, you know what I mean? Y'all niggas is rappers on the low. That was some rapper nigga shit right there.

Niggas said I'm not going. Word. If Trump invited you to the White House, would you go in there? Fuck no. And people get mad at that, but it's our truth. I got an exorcist. You can't get mad. Come on, man. I got an exorcist.

All political things aside, Trump say I got to ask you, sis. All political things aside, Trump say I want to have dinner with you at the White House. You ain't going? If you talking about paying for some pussy, I'd go. I did not think you was going to answer that. You definitely want this. I'm like, no, I wouldn't go.

You definitely want that. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that ass existed. I was like, Amy, Amy. You know how he pay pussy? You were in his ass. You see, you know the rummy? He's the prostitute, the hooker.

Yeah, I go. Yeah, I said, you know? Yeah, he's breaking them all. He giving them real dollars. Who's saying just lawyers is wrong? Yeah, I would have to talk to the bull and be like, Trump giving out money. He living like a boss? Yeah, I would have to talk to the boo and be like, Trump giving out money. He living like a CEO?

Yeah. Yeah, living like he fighting Death Row? Hell no. And that's like, Death Row really did something for the world. No, that's the fact. Trump ain't did shit for the, like, but, you know, brought shit together. You know what I'm saying? Let's not get into politics.

He'll get ugly. Yeah, well, let me tell y'all man Appreciate it man Us We really think That we enjoy the time That's what we do In case anybody

Don't know If you ever Watched the shows Our show is about Bigging up our legends People So many times In our culture

You know A person get 10 years In this game And they want to tell them That it's over for them But black don't crack Man So why should it's over for them but black don't crack man so what do you why should it be over for us we're one of the first people that was part of hip-hop he was a a famous dj miami's mixtape king i'm a rapper and we came together and we chose to

honor people who've been in this game season you can't be you can't be on here one year in this game season. You can't be, you can't be on here one year in this game. You have to have 10 years or more to be here. You have to be a legend. And we wanted to always salute our legends. So this platform

is full, though. And you're, I'm not saying to interrupt you, but you're dope. Oh, thank you so much. You're dope. I'm a fan.

Shug is my nigga. I don't know if you knew that. I used to see that nigga. I only took like four private jets in my whole life. And like, I don't know, like out of the fourth or fifth time, I only took like four private jets in my whole life. And like, I don't know, like out of the fourth or fifth time, I seen him chugging like three of them.

And I would just see him, he'd be like, you keep it together. I'd be like, keep it together. Yeah, like... And we'd be moving, like I did some fly, that was some fly shit. I didn't even know it was fly until I thought about it just now. One day, I was going to the West Coast. Both of our jets had landed. And we had the Swiss jets. It was him.

Like, I don't even remember where he was at. I see him still. He said, what's up? And I said, you keeping it together? He said, keep it together. Boom. Boom. That was some real shit.

But I love your music. Like, you're dope. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. You remember we met at Charlemagne's book signing. Yes, I did. Yeah. And this is in LA, correct?

Yeah. We just had Barnes and Nobles at. Okay. Barnes and Nobles. Barnes and Nobles. We took us on fly. We talked about it. Right. And now, Charlemagne really loves you.

Yeah, that's my dog. You really, you really the people that, like, people should holler at when you come out here because your heart is good. Thank you.

You're pure. Thank you. So, how did you, like, develop that? I don't know y'all got to go, so.

Make it quick. It's new She got a podcast Coming out soon I have a podcast Come on We got a podcast It's through CBS

I start I shoot my podcast We start We can't even hate on that So we're gonna do that I wanted to be like Fuck them niggas Whatever he's about to say

But it's CBS And we love them No no We love them They're great people They're great people. They're great people. I had a grandmother that really taught me a lot of stuff. She taught me you never met a stranger, so you have to treat everybody a different way.

So that's my whole thing. Wait, tell me. Tell me. Your grandmother said you never met a stranger. You never met a stranger because you don't know how God is coming back. So you have to treat everybody. You know what I say? This is my saying. Because I've met you before.

Yeah. It's similar to that. Yeah. I've met you before. I may have not met you. I met a different version of you. Right. I've met like, because I'm saying I'm 40 years old.

I really feel like I'm 69 though. Yes. I don't know why I said 69. That is weird. I got you. But you know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm 40 years old. I really feel like I'm 69, though. Yes. I don't know why I said 69. That is weird, right? I got you. But you know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm even older because I really, like, I really traveled the world. I did a lot of things.

I've been in jail. I did everything. And it's like, I feel like I'm Mr. Miyagi. Like, you know, I feel like I'm very, very old. I feel the same. That's better with the age. You know what I'm saying? I was, and I was angry, you know what I'm saying?

And I think like, not to be sentimental, but when he and I got close, it became, it was cool, you know what I'm saying? Because I had somebody like, you really got my back

because of me. Not because, oh, she can call somebody to get you fucked up or she knows this person or she hangs with this person. It was also real genuine type Her and me like if I didn't play in the NBA like I just really have a lot of I don't give a fuck you because You disrespect

Love and hip-hop for me. Yeah, but I'm sure to put me pump me and some shit like that I said, what the fuck are you? Like, I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I'm not even straight. Yeah. That's weird. That's hard to get. That's hard to get. We went to go watch the premiere. Premiere.

But we was walking. I said, you need to watch where the fuck you going. No, I said, somebody watch where the fuck you going. He said, you need to watch where the fuck you going. I didn't know who she was. And I thought it lasted. She just came to me disrespectful as fuck. So I'm just like, I don't know who the fuck you are.

I didn't know who she was. And this was fresh off the Ray J shit, too. Yeah. So she might have had someone who whoop my ass in the long run, but I know right in front of me she wasn't going to do shit, so I can say what I want to say, you feel me? And then after that, it's just been like nonstop. It was organic.

Like I said, not knowing who she was, who she related to, her death row ties, and then come to find out, I'm the biggest Pac fan in the world. You know what I mean? It's Snoop and Dre, and I'm just like, these are people you grew up with. I'm like, God, that's fucking crazy. Right. And just, that was it.

So this is the last question, I promise. I promise. I know I went real, real with time. Hey, Bleacher Report, if I'm late, it's because of Norrie. So hit up Revolt TV. Oh, yeah. The Bleacher Report got me the other day. It got me the other day.

Yeah, so that's why I was supposed to be there. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. I'm not sure who we were. I just got something to say. Yeah, I think it's one wrong documentary we got to do. This is how important because when people looked at the, what do they call it?

Biopics? Biopics, right? Let's look at the last couple of biopics, right? We'll talk about Straight Outta Compton, right? Biggie the Notorious Big. I forget what it was called.

And Pox, right? And what else did we have? Hip-hop-wise? Hip-hop-wise, that's it? Yeah, pretty much. Okay, now, if you had to pick those three, cinematically and just movie-wise, we would all agree that Straight Outta Compton was the best one, right? Not about the real story. Yeah, but it was a total story. Like, just sitting there.

Yeah. Right? How important is that for y'all? Because the thing is, I noticed you say something earlier. You said you wanted to bring everybody all together. Authentic, man.

All together because there's certain people who have things in that era. But sis, I seen you. I seen you kind of like do shade the whack one to the little two. But whack was never with them, bro. So there was no reason. There was no shade for that. I seen you I seen you kind of like You do shade The whack 100 today You do a little

The whack was never With Defro So there was no reason There was no shade for that Okay Like I said And I wish dads Would like

Get over it Because like You know that shit It's like 20 plus years You know what I'm saying Let it go Like it's time Like we got more years

Behind us than we have In front of us So it's sometimes You gotta let shit go. You know what I'm saying? She be stealing my sayings and saying them on camera. Now they think she's sweet. He stole that from me.

We ain't going to get into that. But as an outsider looking in, and that's purely what I am, I feel like you and Whack-a-mole are stronger together. Right. It's stronger together. And it's not even Whack so much. Itle are stronger together. Right. It's stronger together. And it's not even Whack so much. It's just her and other people. You know what I mean?

And that's what I work on. That's why I kind of like I'm the sane side of what she's talking about because I see the bigger picture. You know what I mean? And I don't. They may not like each other. They may not this. But this is where we can put some money back in everybody's pocket

and hire the homies from the hood to run security. But it's just disrespect. I get it. I can't have, I can't have you disrespecting one of the greatest men to me that dawned the planet

and think I would be, you know what I'm saying? That's like, you just my homie. You know what I'm saying? That's like, let me tell you, when I met,

after I met Mobb Deep, I, You talking too much, I gotta go. When I let, wait, when I let wait when I met

Prodigy was I'm happy. Yeah, I don't even listen to hit him up the same hit him up with my song You get what I'm saying? Like I knew that shit back to foot the end when Pac was my fault for that was my smash it now that I've met these People I've grown it doesn't have the same effect because hit them up would make me want to go kill like 40. I was on the jet to New York. You know what I'm saying? That's how I hit them up.

But now that I'm older and I hear it, that shit, I'll be like, oh, Pac was mad right here. Let me turn this on. You know what I'm saying?

It doesn't have the same effect. It's still my shit though. You know what I'm saying? It's like, like how no Vaseline, like I don't listen to certain songs like the same anymore.

Like I laugh now at Dre Day and when Real Motherfucking G's, that actually was one of my favorite songs when the shit came out. Right. You know what I'm saying? Motherfucking, you know, all day.

You know what I'm saying? Like I love that shit. That's right. But it's just, you can't, I would never disrespect, like all these people that I have that shook,

that had beef back in the days, we speak, we talk, it's all love. But somebody that was never in life in the beginning shouldn't have that much of an opinion. That's like I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going to go in and tell a surgeon how to do his fucking job. I'm not going to tell Matt how to go down the court and dribble. I'm not going to tell you how to get on the mic because I'm not going to tell you how to get on the mic.

Because I can't live it. I mean, I haven't lived that life. So for my thing with him is, I don't, the disrespect is just uncalled for. First you, you know, it's like when you're with, you dissing these people, who you going to disrespect next? Snoop? You know what I'm saying? Snoop is a legend.

You know, I just don't like the way, Bone Thug and Harmony, I don't give a fuck if he, if Crazy Bone feel like the Migos or whatever, that's his fucking opinion and he has that right to have that opinion

because that's his life. Them niggas still selling out shows. Yep. Well, you drive trucks for a living. How you gonna tell somebody something?

Okay, we gotta go. As a New York outsider, I hope y'all all get it together. We want everybody to get it together. We pray for peace. We pray for unity. And thank y'all for coming to Drink Chat. We'll take a picture, do a drop, and get up out and let y'all go.

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