Drink Champs - Episode 130 w/ Pusha-T

Episode Date: June 12, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Good Music president and recording artist, Pusha T! In this episode the guys talk about Pusha's new album Daytona, the battle between him and Drake, Kanye, Virginia Beach and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Come in and close that door. That's what it is? Yeah, you know what I mean. What it is, DJ EFN, this motherfucker. And this drink-tossed motherfucker, Happy Hour, make some noise! Right now, we have technically one of the hottest rappers.

That's not even technically right now. It is the hottest rapper in the game. When you spar with the top dog and you come out on top and they're saying that they don't even want to come back you spar with the top dog and you come out on top and they're saying that they don't even want to come back, you're the top dog. That's why it's hard for

Floyd Mayweather to fight anybody because for that night that same people was on that same level. But let's just go on. This man has continuously stayed relevant in this game. He has was discovered by one of the most phenomenal, what I call the best producer

of our generation. Him and his brother had a phenomenal group. They did phenomenal things. They continue to do it. Then he had a whole nother life where he goes to these other people and then he becomes greater.

And if you don't know who are you talking about right now we're going to talk about motherfucking Pusha T. Make some noise! Thank you. So Pusha T, I want to take it. First off, let me give you that bottle of Dom Perignon. You know what I'm saying? You know Dom Perignon.

Listen, we've never gave nobody Dom Perignon. We've never given you gifts out here on's a show. Gifts out here. Show them the sneakers when we give them to you. And we give you the drink chest. We know you with Adidas. We ain't trying, but you know you could put it in the living room or something. Don't fuck up my money.

Don't fuck up my money right now. Take it as a souvenir. Take it as your festival. Take it as a souvenir. It's a drink chest. A souvenir. And the dog pee, you could my money right now. Take it as a souvenir. Take it as a souvenir. Take it as a souvenir. It's a drink to your souvenir. And the Darby, the Darby you can pop here or you can take with you.

It's totally up to you. Okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? Because you do have a bottle of your own rosé too because you deserve to have your own bottle of rosé. So, I mean,

before we jump into that, I want to big up to somebody. I want to big up to B-Dot, right? From Rap Radar. Because B-Dot from Rap Radar, he sent out a tweet the other day which was shocking to me and he said

I wonder what a Pusha T interview would sound like about Pusha T's album. And that messed me up because I was like damn, you know I see all these memes and I think that's what's being

overshadowed right now is the great bodily work. Everybody's just talking about the battle. Yeah. Everybody's just talking about the battle. Yeah, everybody's just talking about the battle. So what I want to do is I want to break down the whole album. Let's do it. And the album is great.

It's a great album. We got song number one. What's song number one? I got it in my own shit right here. If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Yeah. What are we doing?

What is that? What is that? What is that playing right there? Who is... You're bootlegging us already? Right here? You can't even wait? You can't wait? But, all right, cool.

So, if you know, you know. All right. Yeah. How did that come together? If you know, you know. That was... That was one of the... One of the first joints

that me and Kanye did. I feel like it was probably that might have been found in Utah somewhere. That's Wyoming, is that? No. You got two different places. Didn't he remix the whole album at some point? Yes.

So this is the first of the remix? Yeah, this is the first of like him saying, listen, yo, I'm about to redo this. People don't know that the process in which I work with him is basically I go and get my beats from everywhere. Boom. Do it. Write it up. Boom. Bring it to him. Listen, this is my album. What you think? We vibe with it for two, three days. We riding around to it. He's like, I think it's great. Like on the third day, he was like, yo,

I think I can produce this way better than myself. He's basically telling you, we're scrapping this whole album. So I was like, you think so? I was like, you know. Now mind you, just think about where he's at at this time. Because at this time, he's like, it's drama.

What's the time frame? Just so we know more or less man it's uh it's uh the meltdown time it's the donald trump stuff no no no no no it's the uh it's the shows and the rants and oh so the tour era when he was doing coming off the stage and all that so when he was done with that he was like yo you know um i think i could do it better myself. And I'm like, all right. Give him a softball on Rosé. Come on, God damn it. I'm like, all right, let's do it.

We can shoot people right over here. We ain't sharing Rosé. He can shoot y'all Rosé. He was like, let's go to Utah. So we go to Utah or whatever. Was Karl Malone there? No. Okay.

No, no. No, but Kobe was. Kobe was. Kobe and Alexander Wang. No disrespect to Karl Malone, but Kobe is way Kobe was. Kobe and Alexander Wang. No disrespect, Harbalo, but Kobe is way better. Kobe and Alexander Wang were there. Hold on, time out. Did you see how he just flossed?

He's stunning. I'm telling you what it is. You know what I always wondered? I always wondered if you signed to good music and a stylist come with you. No, no, no. Like Alexander Wang, Hot South, and with you like what's the guy Jeremy Scott you're not just signing you the president or the label as well so yeah you talk you know you know yeah so we're utah and you know we just um we just cooking up man we're just cooking up and uh

you know he he was finding basically finding his sound so it was all just about my album and at that time between utah then wyoming right we found you know a lot of my album found some of tiana's album and then this is how all the seven, all these seven track albums are forming. Because then he's like, well, damn, I gotta make me one. And then... You pour us something?

We gotta say, I'm sorry to cut you off. We gotta salute to you for making that phenomenal body of work. Come on, thank you. And for standing there and fighting with a lion in the jungle. And you survived, goddammit.

Let's make some noise. What's your tea god damn it so where were you when Big Meech brought the tigers in man that was that was what'd you say

that's what he said on the joint when were you when Big Meech brought the tigers in you know I was busy getting stripes

like a tiger skin but it was like I was basically saying in that line, like, Big Meech was the motivation back then for like. A lot of people. If you was outside, like, trying to get to it. Yeah. You hearing about these amazing parties. Shout out Hannah King. In Miami, they was killing it.

It was in Atlanta at this time. You know, just about, you know, the elephants and the tigers and the lions. I've never been to one of those parties. I heard about it. Me neither. That's why when you said it, I said, damn. Me neither. Oh, you ain't been?

Oh, I'm glad. I thought it was like, yo, where was y'all at when this was going on? Right, right. I was just saying that was my inspiration. That was my motivation. I don't know what everybody else was motivated by, but that's what was moving me. Oh, my God, man. So, we're going to move on to the games we play right okay speak about that man the games we play um it was

just speaking about the competitive nature of like hustlers like just speaking about how the competitive energy like you know what I'm saying? And then putting it in the club atmosphere. You know, sometimes, like man, I've been in this for 16 years. For real. Got to make some noise for that.

You know, sometimes, sometimes, I got to go seek out and find that energy. You know what I'm saying? Find that. Like when you found valet.

Well, that's different. Okay. I didn't find valet, but we can get into that. Okay, we can get into that later. I'm saying? Find that. Like when you found valet. Well, that's different. Okay. I didn't find valet, but we can get into that. Okay, we can get into that later. I'll put it on my screen. Let's go. But yeah,

but you know, sometimes you got to go find that energy. I've lived through different eras. You know, different eras. Music has changed,

so on and so forth. But regardless to what, the street energy always to me is what runs it. to what, the street energy always to me is what runs it. Like it's that street energy that really sets it off. That's where you can go and

feel what's hot. It's the foundation. You know what I'm saying? You got to watch Summer Jam or you didn't get a chance. I didn't get to see it all. I've seen pieces of it. I've seen mixed reviews. I've seen the whole thing and to allude to what you just said, when Meek Mill came out,

I felt that in it. Because that's where I come from. Of course. At the end of the day, you guys dropped three albums. And I tell people, well, first off, what's the shit?

Kids see ghosts sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids see ghosts sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that Mos Def? Sounds like it. That gotta be Mos Def, man. Y'all seen four y'all on us. Y'all ain, yeah, yeah. The spirit... Is that Mos Def? Sounds like it. That got to be Mos Def, man. I don't think so.

Y'all seen 4 Y'all and Us. Y'all ain't give them this crap. I think that's Mos Def. Well, anyway, that album, since that shit came out, I listen to it every morning, right? So I'd say these motherfuckers done made a morning, afternoon, and nighttime album for me. Okay. That's how I look at it.

I listen to Ye in the afternoon, and then you know I got to go to Jew at nighttime. You know what I'm saying? So, okay. Now, let me get back. Let's stick with the album, because I got so much shit. I got so much shit. So the games we played,

we covered that already, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, this one was kind of tricky for me, because you kept that. This is what I was saying earlier, the Meek Mill thing. I identify with your album. I can sit there and visualize your album. Your album is a book slash a movie to me

because I see every single thing that you're saying because I can identify, I can relate to it in some way. There's another person who I can identify and relate with. It's Rick Ross. You guys collaborated on it because this is is a seven piece body of work, so you have to be very selective of who and why you're going to pick these people. For sure. So why was Rick Ross, before we get into that particular record, why Rick Ross?

Because Rick Ross is one of the only rappers that I can give a beat to. I give him my beat and I give him my verse and I can turn my back on that situation you know he's gonna deliver period like he gonna say everything on topic on par he gone no you know he listen I have been saying I have been saying um your money's going every other month like that's what he that was a bar in his verse with mine. And I'm just thinking to myself, man, that is the illest way to call somebody broke as a motherfucker. Your money's going every other month. Like, and it's simple, concise, but it gets to the point.

And I'm like, man, you know, sometimes, like rapping and I may over rap, but then you need that dichotomy for him to just nail shit like that and he kills it. Let's make some noise for dichotomy. That was hard. You know, I'm Googling that later. Like, what? Dichotomy? That sounded it. He's fitting right now.

Yo, yo. Yo, so, all right. So, now, you guys work on this record. Boom. How does this come about? No, actually, he was in Africa. Ross was in Africa. Bad.

And I had said everything I wanted to say in that verse. And I was like, damn, it was feeling whack to me writing another verse. I was like, man, I'm just running on rapping. I was like, man, let me reach out to the go-to, to Ross. And he was actually in Africa. And they were just like, yo, send it over. We're going to knock that shit out. And I swear to God, he sent it back in two days.

In Africa? Yeah, I believe he was in Africa. He found sent it back in two days yeah I believe he found a hit factory ends so let me just also say something I appreciate as a lat as a Latino man like you has a lot of Latin the sound that he is doing we got to get to that so come on you rush right okay now let's get into that yo come back baby um come back baby like when you think about it I hadn't put out an album in three years I can't wait cuz we don't talk about that too and and me and drink champs as far as that yes yes yes. We've been waiting for this.

Yeah. It's a long time. Let me tell you something. It's three years exactly. Before you sparred with Drake, you were still one of the most requested guests from here. Because I guess people, you know,

they want these stories for these people that's around. And your brother. And your brother. And your brother. But go ahead, continue. So, you know, with Comeback Baby,

it was like, boom. Ye-Hat appointed me president of good music. At the same time, I was doing this prison reform. With Hillary in them. Yeah, with Hillary. Big up to Kim Kardashian, by the way, for helping let that lady go. Trying to figure that out, as well as Obama was still in office, going to the White House every so often. I wasn't doing music, period.

Living off them good music checks, goddammit. Yeah, yeah. Goddammit. I wasn't doing music, period. A lot of people can't say that. I ain't doing music. Go ahead. And, you know, it went from, you know, I put out an album, executive produced by Puff,

called Darkest Before Dawn. Oh, wow. And people were like, yo, you know, you just hear, you know, with social media, you get executive produced by Puff, called Darkest Before Dawn. Oh, wow. And people were like, yo, you know, you just hear, with social media, you get all the critiques. It's like, man, he's still talking about dope, ah, whatever, boom, boom. I was like, okay, cool.

I didn't put out no music. I was doing these other separate projects. And as time went on, it was like, damn damn I damn sure could use some coke rap right now this is what people saying and I'm like damn just look just last year y'all was saying you know it was too much of that whatever come back baby this the fix you need like that that was the whole premise behind the song you know and you feel like this is your purple tape? Yes.

I feel like this is, too. I like how we're saying it. I feel like this is, too. For those that don't know, the purple tape controlled a summer. There's a lot of people that might not know the youngest. And I don't want to say controlled the summer of New York City because it controlled the summer of hip-hop. Yeah. Wu-Tang was the first group that you knew where they was from, but they

transisted. It transcended. Transcended, yeah. You know, where they was. And that Purple Tape. So when he said, he said, he said, I am your rain ghost. This is my Purple Tape. I was like, oh.

But Purple Tape is a symbol. I don't know if anybody gets it, but I want to. It's a symbol for excellence. It's a symbol for excellence. Like the Purple Tape is the holy grail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like of an album to me

excellence excellence in hip hop did you speak the way all ghosts no they're proud of you yeah I think

they're proud of you trust me I was trying I think that's yeah they're proud of you and just to give some insight on the whole

purple tape concept when we were by the time you know like I said this shit was done between Utah and Wyoming we were, by the time, like I said, this shit was done between Utah and Wyoming. More so Wyoming. By the time I got to Wyoming,

Ye was like, yo, make a list of like 25 records that you just love. And man, I'm like, Glaciers of Ice, Unconcerting Scarface,

there's just certain things. Oh, you're saying records that you love that other people use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other people use. And so then we saying records that you love that other people use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other people use. Okay, okay, okay.

And so then we go through that list. You're speaking elements from those records that you love? We would just listen to that list, and he'd be like, that's the feeling we need. We need that feeling right there. Like, if it don't hit like this, then they don't make it. So then we take some of them off the list. Damn, I see the science behind this. And then, you know, by the time we finish the list let's probably about 10 out of 25 now

my dry at my list of 25 he had his own it's a 25 engineer might have had a list of 25 his list of 25 you know what a couple records man I mean I remember Devil's Pie D'Angelo yeah yeah yeah yeah it was it's pretty good. Yeah. The T-shirt premiere, Joy? It was Lauren. That's how the belly sounds. Lauren inspired stuff. Yeah. Miseducation stuff. Mine was really, was heavy, RZA, Glaciers, Incarcerated Scarfaces.

I mean, you know. And, you know, that's how we built the, at least the feeling of the album. That's what we was trying to go for. That's a dope concept and way to put together an album. No, that's ill. That's ill. I remember Pharrell used to do something similar like that to me. He used to make me listen to records.

I remember I said this story. I don't know if I ever said it on a podcast. But I remember Fabulous' Hollaback Youngin was actually my record. It definitely was. But it was Ice Ice Baby. That was Vanilla's Ice. So he told me, you got to listen to Ice Ice Baby. It was like your version of it.

Yeah, but listen to it. Hollaback Youngin'. Absolutely, absolutely. Hollaback Youngin'. Now listen to Ice Ice Baby. Dude, it's the same thing. I was like, he was a genius. Because I was like, but I just hated Ice Ice Baby at that time so much.

All of hip hop hated Ice Ice Baby. No, no, no. This was like when he was becoming cool again. I don't think that record ever got cool. I think Ice Ice Baby is cool, man. No, no, no. Come on. There's someone in here who jumps to the 5.0.

Oh, wow. The only thing that's cool about that record is some records right now, we look at some and we're like, damn, this back record is better than that record. Oh, that's real.

That's real. Oh, man. All right, so boom. Never trust a bitch who finds love in a camera. We need to understand. She will fuck you

and then turn around and fuck a janitor but what are we what are we saying because these new generations you gotta explain to them Bush you gotta explain to them

that I understand like you know I feel like the chicks that's in the club like that they gotta relax no I'm just saying if the attention

if the attention is is that attention hungry like always if you can find love in that you know as soon as if they can get that attention hungry. If you can find love in that, you know,

as soon as you, if they can get that attention from anywhere, they'll take it from anywhere. They'll take it from anywhere. And, you know, it's not, it's no, it's no,

it's no ranking level. Just wherever they get the attention from, that's where they're going to take it. So it can be, you know, you know, you think that you, you know, young millionaire out here doing your thing, know i'm saying or you know streets you know whatever it is balling whatever right it doesn't matter because the other day i went to a

restaurant and i see two guys and i see two girls but the two girls the whole time went like this they were they filmed like it was like a reality show. So whoever wasn't there, they were there as well, on this date with them. And I looked and I was like, how fun could that be? You sit in there, you just meet these chicks and they want to document everything that's actually going down. So that's what I figured that's what you meant, something like that. Rob Markman You see, I'm not trying to plug this show,

but Paris Hilton got a show on Vice now where it's exposing people trying to be popular through social media. Oh, wow. And it's Paris Hilton doing it. Wow. I think it's Hollywood something. But it's kind of ill.

It caught my attention. That's ill. That's ill. Okay, now. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.

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A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th and episodes four five and six on june 4th ad free at lava for good plus on apple podcasts we move it on you drink it we still drink it we still drink it okay man god damn it okay now santaria now as a spanish person I used to be scared to even say that. Yeah. Dead serious.

Like, you got to be like, you got to be like, for real, like to even say, because they say that even when you say it, it invites the spirits. Yeah. Nah, man. It's not that bad. You said I wanted my record. You did a record for me. I was scared to death then.

And you did it, and you said a lyric. I don't know if you knew, but you said a lyric that was something that he had. I mean, I was trying to be hard. You said, I wrote your name on a piece of paper. I told you. I told you. I froze a motherfucker, and you said it in the lyrics. I was trying to be hard, but I was always aware.

So how did you come with that? Because obviously, you have Spanish friends. Obviously, you have Spanish influence around you. But so you had to know, like, because that's like really, really, that's really like, you know. Shout you had to know, because that's really, really... Yeah. That's really... Shout out to Haitians too. That's my...

Haitians call it voodoo. That's probably my favorite record on the album. Santaria. And you know... The singer signed to Good Music, right? Yes, her name is Shake. Yeah. She's all over Kanye's album, yeah. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yep. But that record was made after the death of my road manager.

My road manager got killed. Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, God bless. Rob Markman, Jr.: So just to give you the backstory of just where my mind was at. So basically we were on the road, it's time to make the album, so we get off the road and just show you the type of guy he is. So he's like my road manager, tour manager. This is what he does. His name is Day Day.

God bless Day Day. Yeah, for sure. And he ended up going as a roadie for Nicki Minaj. So they're on the road you know the way I got it I think they were going just going to get something to eat and simple I mean nonsense altercation he ends up getting stabbed and ends up dying. On the road with Nicki? Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Like crazy. Like chance shit.

And now the twist about it is, it's like he's a church kid. So like, this is like, you know, I used to curse him out like every day. Like just, you know, just bugging. But I used to like, you know, we had a really good relationship and I gave him really his first shot at being a role manager.

I got him from Pharrell. He used to work with NDRD, Rody, Rody, Rody. I was like, nah, come on, you about to be... Let's raise it up. He was great at it and he used to put together my bands. I used to be like, man, why am I banding together this and that? Rob Markman, Jr.: When you say band, you say musical band, not your money. He used to take guys from the church and, you know, just put my band together. So he wasn't a rah-rah dude is basically what you're saying.

At all. That's what I'm trying to just give you the whole thing. So my mind at the time was on some like okay the first line now that the tears dry and the pain takes over let's talk this payola you killed God's baby and it wasn't his will

and blood spilled we can't talk this shit over you know and it's like it's like man you know me being in the position I am in the position of music, money, having things and just the opportunity to be like,

I can call that shot. And it's that tug of war of like, damn, do you really, do you do this? Do you play with this? Do you go that route? Do you go that route? You can. You want to.

You're angry. But then it derails everything. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, then you think about him, and it's like, man, they didn't even know that type of time. He wouldn't want that. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, then you think about him and it's like, man. They didn't even know that type of time. He wouldn't want that. You know what I'm saying? And it's like.

That's real. It was a whole. Yeah. I didn't live with that well. I still don't live with that well, actually. And that's how you came with Santeria. Exactly. Right.

Because I'm playing the priest. The whole song I'm playing, you know. And Santeria is a tug of war between the religion. Exactly. Right. Because I'm playing the priest. The whole song I'm playing, you know. And Santaria is a tug of war between the religion. Yeah, so it's like, you know, I'm like calling the shots as a priest. Okay, now this one was, the title for me was a shock. What Would Meek Do? Right. Because I thought it would be-

With Ye on it. I thought it would be What Would Rihanna Do? What threw me off for a loop what's up you're ducking down cameras over there so this do before new what will go into the title what made you pick that time and you obviously're obviously talking about Meek. Yeah, Meek Mill. You know, Meek is somebody I wanted on the album. Meek was in jail when we made the record. As I got that beat, I was like, man. You know, Big Sean and Meek had a record called Burn.

Burn. That I always wish that i had big sean you gotta come on record that i i wanted to have just for myself and i was like damn man i wish meek was out so that i could do this record with me he wasn't out nothing um and i like to call meek uh what do you call him? The spirit animal? Okay. Like, you know, like Meek to me,

I don't know how old he is, is what I feel like, you know, it's what I don't do at my age, but it's what I, yeah, but it's what I, what inspires me. Like I look at Meek and I'm like, you know, you, all your home I... What you come from. Yeah, but it's what inspires me. I look at me and I'm like, you, all your homeboys.

You get it. Everybody who came in, everybody who I came into the game with was locked up since 09. We came in 02. I didn't get to run around 50 deep and just bring everybody with me. Have a blast. We did for a little bit. But they ended up going to jail. Boom.

I look at Meek and I'm like, damn, Meek, I know all the fun that you're having right now. I love it. And I look at it and it inspires me. So I said, I want him on a record. He didn't get on a record, of course. He was in jail. And that line came up. Angel on on my shoulder what should we do devil on the other what would me do papa willie

tell the judge middle fingers off the ghost screaming you know like and i was just i was just trying to embody and harness that whole energy. Right. Because I felt like it was someplace where he belonged. Like, I still to this day believe he belonged on there. And then he gets out of jail. Right. And I was like, man. As this project comes out. Listen, he gets out of jail as the project comes out.

That's crazy. We DM him back and forth. Like, we have birthdays that are close. In fact, I got a record with you and Meek together. Let's make some noise for Meek. That's the Justin King. That's the Justin King. We have birthdays similar,

but in his son's birthday, me and his son share the same birthday. Oh, wow. In May. Wow. But he just got out, and I couldn't bring myself to ask him to be on the record. Yeah, I know. Because he was just like, I'm like, man, I ain't doing it.

No, no, that's improper. And we didn't do it, and hopefully we do something soon. I'm not sure we will. Yeah, no, of course. But that's what it was. Of course. That's where that whole energy came from. Do rappers really want protects? Yeah.

I believe so, too. I believe so too. I believe so. I mean like right now people are making you feel like if you don't have a Patek you're not even in the game. Had to find other ways

to invest. Well I'm not gonna lie. Cause you rappers found every way to ruin Patek's. I'm not gonna lie. And a lot of these guys they got the stainless. It's cool.

We don't mind. It's fine. We don't mind. It's fine. But um yeah I don't think I'm not You know I'm Is the Patek's a f We don't mind. It's fine. It's fine. Is the Patek a fad? No, see, this is the thing with me.

Is it a fad? A fad? I'm not into the fad. I'm not really into the fad of watches. I'm into watches and I'm into Rolexes. You're into watches. I'm going to be honest. I'm in the Rolexes no you're in the

watches I'm gonna be honest I am I will look there all your interviews are timeless though different joints too I said this nigga's richer but I'm in it just because I'm in it like that and for that particular brand because of just what that always meant that always meant like a status symbol of coming up but it was always once I got deeper like okay boom you know you get the green card what is like you do factory your name when that green card it'll be somebody else's name in that green card yes it is pre-owned brother right you play all of that. We don't know that. I'm sorry. None of us know that. We're poor. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And so, you know, the whole Patek line is just, man, you know, rapping is about bragging. It's about having that, you know, it's about that competitive spirit. At some point, always. And, you know, you got to one-up somebody.

You know, 4.0 versus 4.6. But you always pronouncing some shit that we can't even pronounce. You always like. It's called lyrics. It's called lyrics, man that we can't even pronounce. You always like... It's called lyrics, man. No, no, no. You always hear... I'm rocking the...

What the fuck is this? Look at this thing. Listen. Like, yo. But you know why that is? Because when I was being a fan of like Hov and things like that, man, I didn't know. I'm wearing polo, Snow Beach. He's talking about Versace. I don Man, I didn't know. I'm wearing polo, Snow Beach. He's talking about Versace.

I don't even know what this is. I'm like, what is this? Was that rap helped you go to these other worlds? Yeah. Because I go on your Instagram sometimes and you pull this in with people and I'm like, I don't know who the fuck this nigga is. He look important. He look important because the way you describe him, I'm like, I gotta

act like I know this guy, dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, is that the further you go? Like, is different taste? Because like right now, I love Gucci, right? I'm a Gucci man. But if I go to the Gucci store,

I promise you, by the time I leave this jacket and I come out there, 50 Cent is going to have a picture of the same exact jacket I'm on. And then I go back and you know, and two weeks later I got to get another jacket and Fat Joe is going to have the same exact jacket. But it's these different brands.

Even when Goyard, when Goyard first came out, I didn't identify with it. I thought it was an imitation. Then I realized that they had their own shit. So how is it to like discover these brands that people like the hood don't know man you know i i feel like the hood normal people don't know well well you know this this is the thing i felt like man when i when i think about hip-hop and i think about slick rick i feel like man he was like the flyest ever to me like as gucci as this you got the louis vuitton pouch with the gun in it.

Right. I'm fucked up. I'm like, yo, this is, but that's what I always thought hip hop was. It was like, man,

you gotta come back to the block and be like, look, this is what I'm on. You ain't on this. And then somebody got to one up you

and so on and so forth. And that's how I look at rap. That's how I look at rap. What's those sneakers you had on with Colin Kaepernick? I've been trying to figure that out.

Dior. Okay. My bad. Let's make some noise for him flossing. I'm getting right back. That's not the floss. Listen, the real floss is Dior is dressing all of us for my wedding. That's the real floss.

Yeah! Let me talk real shit. Like, real shit. Okay. Real shit. Kim Jones, really. Okay. I didn't even know you could do shit. I didn't even know you could real shit. Real shit. Real shit. Kim Jones, really.

I didn't even know you could do shit like that, my guy. Custom. What's up, custom? Make some noise for Pusha T getting that money, goddamn it. So you talk into fashion, but lyrically, who inspired you going back, as far back as you can go lyrically? Lyrically, Big is GOAT, God Level, it's nothing to talk about to me. Hov, of course, Nas, of course.

I mean, you know, Mobb Deep ruined my whole life. My whole life. Like, my whole life. Like, ruined my whole why. Step outside because of this. Because they're talking like this. I didn't even think people did shit off of music. Yeah, I'm one of them kids. I fucked up. Right.

You know. Like, yo. Was there anybody locally, like, where you were at that inspired you, too, as well? Man, you know, where I'm from, man, let me tell y'all some real shit, just so you understand, like, where it is that I'm from. Like, Pharrell grew up one mile away from my house, not even a mile, right? I didn't know him. Timberland was a mile the other way, and that was my friend. That was my brother's friend.

Before- Before rap, before anything, nothing. Before anything. Yeah, Malice. Okay, okay. Who's my older brother. Okay, cool, cool. You know, they're five years older than me. Then you have another older brother.

Yeah, I have another older brother. Okay, cool, cool. But, you know, Timberland, up the street, the other way. Like, for my brother to be able to go over his house and rap while he DJ'd, my mom used to make him take me. So, if they're 14, I'm 9. That's the only way he could go. Pharrell's this way. I don't know him. I don't even know him at all.

Does Timberand know each other yes I believe they do okay but and was Pharrell Pharrell yet no by no means

no this is high school this is high school no this is middle school and you know in elementary god damn what kind of water

they were serving out there yeah where was Missy at Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Missy Miss been serving out there? Where was Missy at? Miss Virginia Beach. Miss Virginia Beach. Missy Elliott's up the street. Chad Hugo.

Chad Hugo's not a mile from me. Why? Now, because of zoning and, like, school zoning and shit, like, they don't want certain places to go. All of us was split up. Now, I just told y'all we live within three miles of each other, but we all go to different schools. Boom, right? I have a homegirl who goes to school with Chad. She live up the street from me.

We don't go to the same school together, but because you up the street from me, I'm going to see you. We hanging out. Pharrell likes the girl. Ask me, yo, you see me? Yo, what's up? You deal with her? I'm like, nah, this is like my best friend. And he's like, you know, okay, boom. He finds out, he was like, yo, your brother's Gene Malice.

Your brother's Gene? I'm like, yeah. He's like, yo, man, he's like the best rapper in the world to me. Can we work with each other? I'm like, no, he works with Tim. He don't want to work with you. You know what I'm saying? he works with Tim he don't want to work with you and all this is happening I'm not rapping I don't even rap at this point in my life I'm just just here but you know and um Timberland ends up working

with genuine and all that they go to New Jersey that opens the door for Pharrell to link with my brother now I'm skipping school not going I'm skipping school just going to the studio with them every day Wow you know that's how that whole thing was so when you say people like mind you at the same time for rails high school is next door to Teddy Riley's studio. He just moved. Rum shaker. He just moved and built next door and shit.

Y'all was like the first child in. Word. They got a lot of those things. The first child in. And then you go into guys like Mad Skills. He's touring with Tribe Called Quest at the time.

And I'm like, wow, like people get to do this? Like, you know, I'm looking at him like, go. And he nice, you know? It was a lot, man. It was a lot going on in Virginia at that time. And you had that whole energy going on. Then you had the whole just street culture. I feel like everybody from New York moved to Virginia to get money. I feel like that.

I feel like- Rob Markman, Jr.: The way the work was moving. Rob Markman, Jr.: That's just what it was. Virginia Beach was the first Atlanta, Miami, whatever. You came down here first, to there first. Every rap song in the 90s had Virginia Beach references. You talk about Mase big, the 90s had Virginia Beach references. You talk about Mace Big, whatever. That was what it was. And I'm not going to lie, your girls was mad easy, too.

Come on, man. Show some respect. Show some respect. Just going to throw it out there. Virginia girls was a little easy. Come on, man. You're going to throw me a two. Oh, my God. Come on, man. Philadelphia too. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Don't say that about Miami. Don't say that about Miami. Don't say that about Miami. Even before then, real shit, even before then, you think about Public Enemy, you think about Can't Trust It, the videos they were shooting, the water hose and the kids, and that's all Virginia Beach shit. they were shooting it was the water hose and the kids and yeah that's all Virginia I believe it was Allen Iverson's life that actually made us realize Wow Virginia oh is fucking man listen is insane

hey I cuz he's from Virginia correct'm correct? Newport News or Hampton. I forget. But Allen Iverson by far is like, I mean, for me personally, that's idol, hero level. And people like, yo, man, not too long ago, he gave me a jersey, right? Wow. And signed it. And, you know, I went crazy. They put it on the internet or whatever. It was on ESPN or whatever. And people was like, man, why you?

Man, he from around the way. I'm like, so what? Celebrate. You crazy. That's right. That's right. This guy is like. That's the reason why you say.

Celebrate all legends. Why they lie. You know, they see me. They see me partying. I don't care. Like, you don't, you know. I still look at him a certain way. Like, you know, you look at people a certain way.

Like, it just is what it is for me. Nah, and that's home team for you. They got a feeling, love. You got to relax. I got to relax. I went too far. I went too far. Okay.

Okay. So, on that verse, Ye says, he's a million dollar baby? Billion dollar baby. Billion dollar baby? I don't know a billion dollar nigga. Listen. A little less a baby? I'm going to tell you, I guess.

And I, you know, I don't know. That line is hard. I don't necessarily know. I know what he says. Yeah, yeah. And I believe't necessarily know. I know what he says. Yeah, yeah. And I believe what he says. Me too. But I know how these people line up for them shoes and everything that they're doing.

That shit is phenomenal. And I mean, it's definitely, it's there. Like, I believe it's there. Yeah. Right. You know. It's beautiful, man. God damn, it's beautiful. All right, so we're going to get into this last joint. I mean, obviously, we had to get into the talk of the town, the talk of the business. Let's talk about it.

I'm going to speak about this joint because I'm not going to speak about the actual thing that it started. This record is actually a great record. What were you trying to accomplish by Infrared? Because to me, this whole record is not about what people are making it about. It's a couple of lines. It didn't seem like that at all.

It didn't seem like it was a couple of lines. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's definitely slick on that route too. It's just about, to me, it's just about the reality of hip hop. Because you said it was written, but it came from quitting. Right.

And is that what started the Nishu B for now? But we don't have to get into that. Let's get into the record. Let's get into the record. Basically, that song, Infrared, was a response to Two Birds, One Stone. And it was a response just in the most, I feel like, battle back and forth type of way. You throw your jabs, I throw mine. Rob Markman, Yeah. Felt that way. Rob Markman, It wasn't solely about that. It was just about me, my position in rap. Somebody is challenging my street credibility, so on and so forth, questioning that.

So, okay, boom, now I got to question something. Let's question these things together. We can all do it together. It's fine. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, you know,

still I feel like it was, it was, it was still lyrical. It was still, you know. But two birds in one stone. I tried to actually go and look for that. Like,

and I don't really see where he's going at you. It was about the... It was about the... Something about, you know, you was watching Scarface. You weren't really doing this. I don't even remember the bars like that, but it was something of that nature. A couple jabs in that. Okay.

And, you know, it was what it was. Okay, now this is where we turn up. What's up? So since Mr. Me Too, right? Yes, sir. Okay, what actually inspired Mr. Me Too? Because at the end of the day, you're on What Happened to That Boy.

Yes. We even, I believe, even the Grinding remix was me, you, Birdman, and was it Wayne? I don't think Wayne was on that. No, it was us and Birdman. No, he might have been on it. He might have been on it.

There's somebody else on that. He might have been on somebody else on the other side no we're the way did this this I know I know there's an interview that's it I don't know it's okay that I'm sorry okay so it's a interview with and what did they say they said you trying to look like the clips I guess they said something to him in regards to that right Right. Who's him, by the way? Wayne. Wayne.

Okay, okay. And so when they said that or whatever, he just answered it in a real condescending way. It was aggressive. It was, and at this time, we're going through the wildest of label drama. We are out. I heard about this Justin Timberlake situation where Pharrell wouldn't even work with Justin because he was so mad about the job. Right. Okay, but.

And I was just like, damn, man, it was such a better way to answer that. We rappers, I don't got to cut nobody if I don't want to. I don't got to say nothing crazy in regards to anybody if I don't want to. I know how to talk around things, so on and so forth. But here's why I knew you was dangerous, right? Because it kept going on, and Weezy kept getting hotter. And he kept getting hotter. And most people would back down.

Like, you were that mixtape Weezy. Like, you were that dude that was chopping everybody's heads off. And just so the listeners are clear, this is going back. This is back. This is mixtape Lil Wayne. This is mixtape Wayne when he was on way gone.

Yeah, yeah, he was out of here. And I'm like, I'm sitting back, and I'm a rapper, too. You know, I'm a rapper, too, so I'm of here. And I'm like, I'm sitting back and I'm a rapper too. You know, I'm a rapper too, so I'm sitting back and I'm like, push it not back and down. And I expect it because everybody, when you go on fire, because the common senses is when a person goes at a person that's on fire, you're hating. So I thought you would have backed down just for that. Or just, you know, and you just didn't. You know, what people need to realize as far as I go is

I never want to make their records. Like, you know, if you look at my career, I've made the same record my whole career. I've made the same album basically my whole career. I've talked about the same thing my whole career. Period. Rob Markman, Yeah, you're not chasing a trend or chasing a vibe. Rob Markman, I'm not chasing a trend. I'm not chasing radio. I'm not chasing nothing. When people say that, it's sort of funny to me because it's like, man, my record's still going to be about the streets.

It's still going to be about just how my perspective and my point of view from a street perspective. It's still going to be drugs is going to be the common thread. And it's still going to be lyrical. It's still going to be, you're going to have the metaphors and the parallels. I'm going to still put it together how we put it together. When people say that to me, it's crazy because you've never heard me really try to chase a wild trend or be part of the wave. I've never tried to be part of the wave, ever.

You don't have to be a part of the wave when you provide the water. Goddamn it. That's who I am. That was pretty good. I don't got to follow a wave. I provide the lit. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. I don't got to follow a wave. I provide the water. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? So, okay. Mr. Me Too happens. He answers this. This interview happens. Boom. Things have settled down. These guys are on top. You now transition to president of good music.

But at this time, it's kind of like a little turmoil between the two. You choose to kind of mind your business because you know that Ye has a relationship with Drake. And then, so let's just skip for a certain time. J Prince. Okay. He just says that Drake has a career- Ending record. Ending record.

Okay. Response. Response to you and to Kanye. Right. What do you and to Kanye. Right. What do you think of that? It's the first time you look sleepy, Dennis Hovind. Yeah. Was that to identify how you felt of the response?

No, and just to be honest with you, man, I feel like there's absolutely nothing that they would do for my best interest. Nothing. They wouldn't look out for you? For nothing. For no reason at all. If they had it, they'd go and pull that motherfucking trigger. Whatever their decision is or decision making is, it's based off of what's best for them. Right.

Okay. You know, man, I don't know. You know, I don't know what ends my career. Right. I haven't, you know, I ain't never told on nobody. Right. You know, I am who I am. I've never done, I don't even know what's career ending these days. But whatever it is, whatever it is, I ain't done I don't even know what's Korean these days but

whatever it is whatever it is I ain't done you know so you know you know at the end of the day

like I said those conversations were had and and those conversations were had without that soundbite. Okay, I'll get it.

No, no, no. I don't get it. He was saying, let's let it be. But that, in particular, the phrase was not mentioned. Yeah, the career ending. That wasn't happening then. But, you know, it was to be left alone. So you're saying it was a mutual ending of...

Yeah, it wasn't any... No, I'm saying this. I'm saying that, you know, there were things that were said during the conversation between my management and him in particular. Jay Prince? Yeah. Okay. That it wasn't aggressive. It wasn't anything.

I don't think it was being aggressive. It was all cool. He's protecting his artists. Yeah, period. We understand that. We understand that. So what I'm saying is the narrative about the career ending and all of that, that's all after. After the conversation. Right. I don't know the narrative about the career ending and all of that, that's all after.

Right, after the conversation. Right. I don't know about that during the conversation. Right, right. I don't know about that. And it is what it is. Hey, they got it, you got it. Okay, but.

Do it. Right, if it's there. That's it. But you dropped Infrared. Yes. Infrared drops. Two days later, was it? Yeah, man.

What does he drop? Dopey? Dopey? Dopey Freestyle. Dopey Freestyle. Yeah, man. Dopey Freestyle. I'm not going to lie.

The industry was like, oh, shit. They were nervous of you for a second. There was an immediate response. That was the point. Noreen was nervous. Noreen was nervous. I heard. I heard. Hey, Noreen. I heard. immediate response that was that was the no I was I just wanted you to be on point I was nervous. I don't want my nigga to be Meek Mill. Like, shit is real.

How fast he came out with that joint. How fast. No, no, no. That was impressive. But I feel like... Hold on. Before we jump, I don't want to jump. No, no, no. Is that where Meek Mill messed up?

Because Meek didn't respond immediately. And when he... You know what I mean? No. You know. I don't believe that. I feel like... Man.

When it comes to that, I just feel like... And I don't even want to say he messed up because I sort of feel like we saw how different the game is. Because when that happened, Meek never lied to none of us. He didn't lie to nobody. And what I'm saying is that type of information in the game that we play is career ending. Was the problem that Meek responded on Twitter as opposed to when Drake just went straight to the booth? Drake kind of went straight to the booth. Oh, well, yeah, I'm sure.

But what I'm saying is I don't even believe it's I believe that it was a a miscalculation of like the importance of, you know, the writing these days. That's what I feel. Is there any truth to him having access to the record? of the writing these days. That's what I feel is- Rob Markman, Jr.: Is there any truth to him having access to the record before it came out that that's why he- Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, come on, Drake. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, I mean that you know of. You know, I don't know. I have no clue. At the end of the day, when you are promoting an album, you letting people hear it. You got to let the writers and all of that. I'm pretty sure they have, you know, whatever. So that could be true. Yeah, it could be. Right.

It could be. So now you released this. You're hearing Drake is coming back. Drake, actually, one thing that I've never heard you speak about ever personally is your relationship. Right. He brings up the name you're right where are you at and then where do you feel is this all gloves off is this like of course i mean i think it was obvious it became gloves off because because and and all love is virginia williams correct for sure because i'm thinking that is a place in virginia like that's

how dumb i am i'm like that's how much'm like, that's how much you protective of yours. You know what I mean? I'm like, where is Virginia Williams? I didn't know that. And the people was like, no. So is it like, what are you thinking? What are you thinking? Are you thinking like this guy?

Man, you know, it immediately just put me because it's like okay boom a record's coming out i already know response mode bang that's what it is okay but then you gotta like what i'm listening because before then he really kind of like he kind of was careful with you he kind of responded to everybody else but he kind of of like, when he was talking about you or sparring with you, he was very, very careful. So I can't say that I saw him coming back this fast. Oh, well, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying that, you know, it was known that a record was coming.

Of yours? No, of his. Okay. Oh, okay. So boom. Okay. Once that, you know, once that came out, it was just like okay response mode

I'm definitely going to respond then you just look at it man and you just sort of have to analyze the record at that point and then you just pick it apart and that's what I feel like I did I was like okay boom

first of all why would you mention her? You don't do that. Like, you know, women and kids, leave me alone. Leave me alone. Bomb. Okay, boom. And you knew about the porn star? Okay, I got to relax.

Relax. I got to relax. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, boys. Slow me down, boys. I'm good. So I'm just like, you know, boom. I'm like, okay, well, why would this happen like this?

Okay. And then it just, you know, and then it was like, man, it just couldn't. For me, at that point, I was like, man, this is like not, this ain't our usual pitter-pat back and forth. Because y'all been doing it. Yeah. It's been life, though. It's been life. I was like, all right, bet.

So now you got to sort of look at it and start looking at who you're dealing with and what. And to me, I didn't think the line was that good. Like the Virginia line. I didn't think it was that good. So you reached. And now I got to realize, why did you think that was so important to say because it wasn't that good to me and sometimes

it would be good to me but kind of like sort of reachy like Hov kind of messed up when he did that like with Nas though like bringing up like the girl but can I continue yeah but you know I just sort of felt like that and then it just it just started it just gave me content.

Like, okay, boom. Why is this like this? Why would you say that? And you knew about the porn star prior? Yeah. So you're a dangerous nigga. So listen, all right. So let's just...

Y'all niggas ain't catch on strategically. Just saying. It's like backup ammunition. Listen, listen, listen, listen. All right. So you had infrared, knowing that there will be a response. But you might have held that response. You might have held the porno star for the third disc.

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You had Adidas spies? Huh? Because we know you're close to Adidas. No, not at all. That's the thing. No, with him, Kanye, and Drake. They had Adidas. They all had Adidas.

They all had Adidas. It was an Adidas meeting. Nah, and that's the thing. The Illuminati of Adidas. It really wasn't. So, hold on. So, listen, I'm going to be honest. Listen, after I heard the record, right, when I hit Mr. Lee, I said, Mr. Lee. Listen, I'm going to be honest. Listen, after I heard the record, right, when

I hit Mr. Lee, I said, Mr. Lee, man, we need Pusha on. He said, Pusha wants to come on. He said he wants to remind you of shit that you don't even remember. I said, that's a diss record. Close. Close. We don't even remember shit like that. Close. He's just like, I got one on you.

Is that just some rapper shit? Nah. That we sit around? No, no, no, no, no, no. Just good stories. Okay, but let's... Just good stories. Okay, let's stick with Drake.

So, you know you're going to spar with him. Right. You don't know he's going to bring in your person. You think you're going to do that. Or did you expect that? No, no, no, no, no. Nothing like that.

You didn't expect that? No, no, no, no. So now that he did it, what was your first response? Because you were calm. No, I just, you know, like I said, I felt like I just had to evaluate the situation a little differently. Like I said, it's been jabs, tap, tap, everybody. You take something, I take something, boom, boom. It's cool. But I just felt like it just went across the line with that.

For real. And that's really it for me. For you. So now, you go in the studio. You bring up the whole beat, which is like, that's like real, what do you want to call it? I can't call it Afrocentric, but it's like that revolution and revolution, it's that revolutionary music. Right.

Renaissance, there we go. Right. It's that thing. What made you go? Because I had the picture. Okay, so you had the picture prior? Yeah. Okay.

Okay, prior to what? Prior to his response or prior? No. Just period? You just had... to what prior to him his response or prior no just period you just have you know what it feels like you drink drink that's what it feels like it felt like you did exactly to him what he did to someone else. I mean, I'm just... Does it feel like that to anybody else? So,

you had the picture before Infrared came out? Yeah, I believe so. Whew. Let me just take this. This is some real. This is some real hip hop history. Did you think you would hear J Prince say something like that? Like saying that there is no response? I would not. would hear J Prince say something like that? No.

There is no response? That's the last person I thought would be speaking. Who, J Prince? Yeah. Y'all got a relationship? No. No, not at all. J Prince is cool. He's a cool dude. He's created some greatness.

Of course. When he said that he advised Drake not to put sports, was a piece of your petty side, just the petty side, was like, of course. Like, I'm just asking.

Man, you know. I mean, we just drink. No, no, no, no, no, no. For sure. You got to take a shot, too, if you want. I mean, we got more? Yeah.

I get to it. Okay, all right. But let me answer you. All right. Man, you know, I just feel like when you deal in, like, truth, right? It's like, like I said, I've said a lot. I don't got skeletons. I don've said a lot I don't got skeletons

I don't got things that I don't got nothing I'm ashamed of in this world like for real like I ain't even doing

no lying to nobody you never fucked a fat girl? come on bro I had a big I said it to say but like I don't like I don't I don't

you know it wasn't I know who I am I know it like it's nothing nothing to shake me up about like you know

like you know you drag V into it you know nothing to shake me up about. Right. You know, you know, you drag V into it, you know. God bless. You know, she built 4Tough. Right.

For real. Right. Yo, wear it. What's up? What? Who knows what's coming? Who knows? Wear it.

She going to. Like, it's whatever, man. Does the porn star girl ever DM you or anything? No, I don't. No, I don't.

All right. No connections. All right. You don't even fuck with your niggas who don't pay child support. I respect that. That's a fact. I respect that. Respect that, goddammit.

That's a fact. Respect that, goddammit. That's a fact. Nothing to that. So what is the benefit of, because hip-hop declared you the winner, right? Right. And at the end of the day, Drake can probably do a response or whatever. Right now, hip-hop, from Puff Daddy to everybody is saying, you know, he had a certain amount of time.

He was supposed to respond. He did the same thing. But I remember Nas responding six months later. But this is something different. This is because we're in a different time. So what is the benefits now, like, you know, of people knowing that you are, bar for bar, the Floyd Mayweather of our generation?

Man, you know, I don't know if, I don't know what the real benefit is. And I mean, personally, on just some rap type time, man, I hope I'm not getting it from this. It's sort of weird. No, no, no. I'm not even saying I've been deserved it. Because of the artist? Yeah.

I got to get it from someone. What do you feel about Drake as an MC, period? Like, real talk. I feel he makes... I feel that... Like, we know people say he has the ghost rap, but do you feel he, as an MC... Well, then we're not going to talk MC. We're just going to talk records.

That's where it ends. Yeah, we're just going to talk records. And the records are good, period. No biggie. No biggie at all. Like, that's what it is. I feel like we should take a shot. I mean, we can't.

I forgot the Tiger Bowl. I didn't even talk first. You don't forget the Tiger Bowl? I forgot the Tiger Bowl. We don't have Tiger Bowl? I ain't going to perform. Let's do some. That's not bad.

It's not bad. Let's do some. I have like 12 Tiger Bowls in my crib. I can't believe. Yo, let me just tell you something, Push. What's up, bro? Because the thing about it is, so many people do other things. Like, you got the sneaker thing.

You got the play clothes thing. Which other day, I thought my man was probably going to start hooking me over play clothes. I thought my man had on bootleg play clothes, but I couldn't tell. I got you. Because he had on, it was pink play clothes. It was pink. I was just like, I don't know. He had bootleg clothes?

I don't know. I don't know if it was bootleg or not.'t know. I don't know. I don't know if it was bootleg or not. I'm not sure. You know what I'm saying? You know, my guy's a flea market king. You know what I'm saying?

So, I'm like, but you got these other things, but you're one of these guys that stay so consistent through music. Like, people depend and respect on you through music.

Earlier, you said that you took a hiatus for three years. How would that feel as a person that that's your soul, your core is the music? How do you take a hiatus? I don't believe that what I do

goes out of style. That's the thing. I don't think lyric driven hip hop goes out of style. I don't think that the streets go out of style. Period. So do you believe in a consistency that it's without time?

It's just what you do is consistent. My album is called Daytona because you know, Rolex Daytona is my favorite watch. But I feel like I had the luxury of time to make it. That's why it is what it is. And I feel like, you know,

that's what me and Ye sort of proved. Like, man, this is... We got the time to make it. Right. And we're going to give you seven. And that's what it's going to be. It's timeless music regardless. Period.

Right. And that's, you know, that's what we sort of... That's what we living off of. Goddamn. Mr. Lee, where them vodka shots at? Come on, let's do it.

I don't... I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, I know who I'm talking to every time. Every time. I know exactly who I'm talking to when I'm writing a verse. I know exactly who I want it to resonate with. I know exactly the club I want to go to. Would it change if you didn't, though?

Like I'm saying, if the music for you, if you didn't know who you were talking to, but it was what you felt, would it change? If it changed that you knew that these people that you thought you were talking to changed their vibe? Rob Markman, I can't really look at it like that because the reaction from the streets be so loud when they hear a verse or when they hear an album or when they hear a song i say something you know i say something what did you just walked out just now you had the mic out there yeah and he just came in oh my god but i'm talking before you could even get that reaction

would you change if you thought that that maybe that wasn't there anymore? Nah, because I don't think that goes anywhere. Because you don't say being who you are, you want to do what you do. Yeah, but I just don't think that that goes anywhere. I feel like my niche in rap, I don't know if anybody can get articulate street rap anywhere else from them than me. I don't believe that. I guess the point I'm trying to make for artists, I'm just trying to like, if an artist is listening, right?

Yeah. You know, artists tend to always be like, what's pop and what's hot? What is an audience that I think is going to resonate with me? I feel like that's wrong. That's what I'm trying to get to. I feel like that's wrong.

I mean, I feel like, you know, you make what you make. Yeah. And then who fucks with that is who fucks with it. And then that's who you fuck with. And then you master that. And you grow that. I don't think that you... No, because that's what I believe.

You know, you keep going out there reaching. Salo. Salo. Alaa. Alaa. Come on, man. How do you know I even want to drink this? How do you even know I want you drink this shit I do drinks and rock. It's cool. So, that did hit me. That did hit me a little bit. You know,

man, you know. Did you think he was going to be here this long? Man, that revelation hit me the other day. That's real. Like, for real. When I like, and it just started hitting me recently

Like I want to say like from 2012 Like the 10 year anniversary of Lord Willing 2016 The 10 year anniversary of Hell Have More Fury Like It's like I'm like damn man Like

10 joints That's crazy Now when I really think about it it's like no it's really 16 joints really been here 16 joints really like some people saying this one's my best album

who knows I mean is it I'm sorry but I've never seen an artist grow and get better the way you grow and get better parts. Man, thank you. And it's because the thing about it is you come from actually our era, which is an older era than Kanye's, the era before Kanye. Right.

And you've been able to maintain these eras. And the thing about it is other people have been able to maintain those eras, but they've been able to maintain it just in single wise. Right. There's no one to be able to maintain that new crown and a body, a whole body of work

with a whole new generation fuck with it too. It's amazing what you're doing. Like, you know what I'm saying? I have no... You brought the value of a whole album that we've been missing

for a long time. That is beautiful. Thank you. That is beautiful. That you. That is beautiful. That should be saluted. And the thing about it is you come from the greatest producers.

You know what I'm saying? You've been blessed. I feel like I got a lot to do with it too. I see you at listening parties. I've seen Swiss. I've seen Feralde. Of course you got a lot to do with it.

I feel like I got a lot to do with it. You become a producer. When you're hanging around producers so much, you actually become a producer. I wish I feel like I got a lot to do with it You bet you become a producer when you when you hanging around with deuces so much Fucking the pre-a version of your You know it was fire. Who were the producers? Was it local producers? I don't know.

You don't have to say who. More or less. There were producers who were... Of name? Of course. Yeah, definitely of name. Listen, he A&Rs all my projects. So that's the...

Yeah, he may not do all the beats. So he was already... He was already picking. This producer, okay, okay. And then he just decided, I want to do all the beats. So he was already... He was already like picking, yo, yo, yo. This producer, okay, okay. And then he just decided, I want to do the whole thing. Yeah, then he was just like, fuck it. And at that time, like I said, it was sort of weird time. And, you know, just for him.

And I just felt like, all right, well, if that's what you want to do, then let's go ahead. Let's go do it. You know, and mind you, it's done. Did you feel any kind go do it you know and mind you it's done so did you feel any kind of way also you want to revamp it you didn't go relate new vocal yes yeah but what I'm saying is my album was done for my standard did you not feel some kind of way at that point I did but I mean no no not some kind of way is like uh egotistical yeah Like, listen, I'm straight student mode. When it comes to P,

yay, my mom. Watch your drink. When it comes to like, like turning the album and taking your input, I rap. That's what I do. Right.

Like, and that's all I do. Period. That's what I do. When it comes to all of the theatrics, you got to listen. That's real. You know, you got to listen to that. That's real. That's why I feel like, you know, all of the theatrics, you got to listen. You got to listen to that. That's why I feel like all of this came out this way.

It came out strong this way. Yo, Come Back Baby, Come Back Baby, I turned away. Come Back Baby, I was like, yo, I don't want this record. I don't like it for real. Don't like it. He was like, no, listen, I'm telling you, you're going to love it.

Do it. He's like, yo, do it. Now I'm like, all right. Last time that happened to me was niggas in Paris. Not gon' happen again. That was your ass. That happened to you a lot of times, my friend. No, no, it's all good.

That's what I feel for you. When you say that, I holler back, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's okay. It happens. I fucked up a couple times, man. It it's okay. It happens. I fucked up a couple times. It happens on rap time. Yeah, I fucked up a couple times, man. Damn, you got me fucked up over here, boy. Yeah, that shit happens.

You know, it happens. So let me pick you up because you probably the only one of the other niggas that ghost wrote for Ronald McDonald, nigga. Yeah. I'm loving it. Oh, that was your joint? I'm loving it. Yeah. Oh, that was your joint?

I'm loving it. Yeah. Yeah, nigga, I'm good at my job. I don't know if y'all know, man. I don't know if y'all know. I don't know if y'all just realizing that now. Yeah. But, nigga, you wrote, I'm loving it.

Yeah, man. I'm loving it. That was a bad L publishing check. Let me be honest with you. I took a super L. What you got? What you got? What you got?

What, just up front? No publishing? Just up front. Oh! Happy? What you got? What you got? What you got? Just up front? No publishing? Just up front. Oh! Half a man. About half a man. Oh! At least you got half a man.

No, no, no. But it still was like... No, it would have been. When you think about it. That would have been crazy. Yeah. But, but... But we ain't going to tell nobody that.

We're going to say it. We're going to say it every time. No, no, no. No, no, no. I want people to know because they need to understand. Shout out to Steve Stout. He gave me the... I started checking. I was like, oh, man. I want people to know because they need to understand. Shout out Steve Stout. He gave me the...

I saw the check and I was like, ah, man, ah, great. And then, you know, it happened early. Hold on. So you wrote the slogan or you wrote the rhyme

and in the rhyme it was I'm loving it. And then they took that. I don't care what he wrote. He couldn't... That was... You know what I'm saying? It was going to be crazy.

That's him. No, I know. It was in his rap, he said. Yeah. And now they took it and they're there with it. That's crazy. But, I know. It was in his rap, he said. And now they took it. That's crazy. That's crazy. But, you know, I want people to know that part.

I want artists to know that part. Keep your publishing, man. Right. Make sure, you know, that check will be nice. But you're like, I'm loving to be running for how long now? I did this at, what, 03, right? That's the slogan. Who knows what it would have been.

Half a man back then was like oh now you think about it but to be but but just so just so they know the get-back is real I also own 40% of the Arby's commercial so be clear the recent When you hit that guitar strum, it's mine. Boy. God damn it. You learn. You live and you learn. You live and you learn.

He went from McDonald's to Arby's. You live and you learn. You're getting that job, God damn it. You're getting that job. Burger King beefs from McDonald's. You live and you learn, man. You've also been the only person that I've seen

that Bobby Brown was mad at. But then when I went and I searched why Bobby Brown was mad at him, then I understood. But I've never seen

Bobby Brown mad at like another young black brother. But then, again, like I said, I went and searched. But that was Ye's decision. It was. Right. The actual... But yeah, young black brother but then again like I said I wouldn't search but that was the age decision it was right the actual but yeah I wear what I'm doing me and

smile yeah yeah yeah yeah it's mine right you know it was paid for right yeah that was Kanye's this like idea right Well, see, what it was was we had a... What people don't know is this album was really made in real time. Right. And the crazy part about it was I had tweeted the day before, like, listen, this shit is happening in real time, y'all. I ain't even got this. I ain't got that.

But listen, even when I get my artwork, y'all going to have it. As soon as I get it, I went and made artwork, basically a cover. It was a picture of myself. And, you know, like one that morning, Ye was like, yo, I don't think it's strong enough. And I was like, what you mean you don't think it's strong enough? He was like, nah, I just don't. I was like, bro, you picked the photographer. You actually picked all of these pictures. Why ain't it strong enough?

So you don't think it's strong enough? He was like, I don't feel it. I don't feel like it is, and I got an idea, and I think it just speaks to what I feel like this album is, so on and so forth, boom, boom. And I was like, okay, boom. And so my manager had called so on and so forth, boom, boom. And I was like, okay, boom. And so my manager had called me back and was like, yo, you know he want to change the artwork.

Shit costs a lot of money, blah, blah, blah. So I hit him back. I was like, listen, I don't want you to pay for that. I don't want you to do that. I don't want to pay for it, and I don't want you to do it. You don't got to do that. We good. I love the music.

I'm happy. I'm excited. This is the seven songs we took my last. How many days before releases? This is like a day. Which is indicative to everything going on right now. What I'm saying is, I'm texting,

I'm tweeting the day before saying, yo, y'all, boom. He sends it over, boom, that's what it is. And I'm like. And when you see it, you know what it is? So, no, listen, I don't know what it is. Okay.

But, you know, as soon as it hits the net, you start hearing the, you start hearing it. The smack back. And it's like, yo, this is my boy. So then I got to do press the next day. I'm doing phoners. And my phoners is all, yo, how could you? Like, it's crazy. Then it's TMZ.

Then it's my mom calling me like, yo, I see you on. What's going on with the thing? You know, da, da, da, da, da. And you still don't know. You're like, M, this, now. And you still don't know. You're like, Mildred, chill. He knows now. He knows. You know at this point, though.

And that's how I know. I'm just like, it's what it is. You want to ride with me? What? What you going to do, ma? You ride or what? She's like, I'm riding. I'm like, ride.

What are you doing? So you think it's genius or it's fucked up? I mean, you know. Or bro, this is fucked you know Genius is fucked up The thing was, see the way he described it to me Was he was like, yo, you know I feel like you talk about the streets In a way that's like

Glamorous at the same time You know, you speak about the pitfalls And so on and so forth He was like, man, to me This album and this picture Represents all of that. That doesn't make sense. That was our mindset.

It wasn't about anything being disrespectful. It wasn't about anything. It was just, you know. But mind you, for the listeners listening right now, when you're saying in real time, just to put it in perspective, it's just like when Kanye took the picture on his iPhone of his album cover. That's what you meant. Yeah, for sure. In real time. For sure. That's how it's happening. How fast it's just like when Kanye took the picture on his iPhone of his album cover. That's what you meant in real time. That's how it's happening.

How fast it's happening. Rob Markman Yeah. I mean, just so y'all even understand the process of this shit, like, kid see ghost. Kid see ghost. I'm on a flight. I'm on a flight to Montreal. He hits me. Yo yo I need a verse can you go to studio right now I'm like I can't this is feel love yes

he's like I can't I'm like he hits me back no I need you to go to the studio right now. Mind you, the album is coming out in six, seven, eight hours. So what's going on? Fuck it, you know what I mean? We gonna play it, keep going, keep going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Relax, buddy, relax, buddy. But I'm just saying, the album's coming out in like six, seven hours.

I'm about to do a show. I'm in Montreal, gotta book a studio. They book a studio. All right, cool. Hold on. Listen to this nigga verse. Look at the flow of it, nigga. Easy does it, nigga.

She like them bottles with bubbles in it. Buy her Laueve and other linen. When there's other women, we in love with winning. That's a new act, y'all. Listen, man. Hoping that I play a song Love the fucking trap music Dope money, just hang along We're the master band, you know Listen, man, I'm not going to lie. Let me tell you something.

Let me tell you something. Kid Cudi has been a genius, right? Fact. He's been a person that, you know... Ahead of his time. That I love. But what Kanye did for him is put him in a level where the whole rest of the world can see his genius.

For the first time, in my opinion. You talking about the rollout? The rollout? No, no. I'm just saying that you can actually see Kid Cudi's genius now. You know what I mean? This reminds me of graduation, Kanye. Am I off?

What does it remind you of graduation? This. The track? No, the whole album. Man. Am I bugging or is this college drop? I don't know. This is old Kanye. Mr. Old Kanye. This is old Kanye.

Let me tell you something. Right now he is on a production wave and nobody fucking with him. That's what I think. I think everything you guys are doing right now is... Ain't nobody fucking with him. And now his album coming out on Friday for real? I can't even imagine what the reality is.

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Bruh. I was a little nervous. Mm-hmm. When he did come back with that response so fast. Oh, you're talking about Drake? Yeah, I got to go back to him. I'm so sorry. I was a little bit nervous. I'm saying, I'm your friend. I know. I got it.

I'm your friend. You are my friend. You are a very good friend of mine. I am a friend. You guys have come together since like early on in your careers, bro. We're going to get to that, too. We're going to get to that, too. We should definitely get to that.

I'm going to take a shot. I got to take a pee-pee, too. Because Vovalt was very tight. Let me just say something, too. I can roll with your pee to that, bro. We gon' get to that, too. We gon' get to that, too. We should definitely get to that. I'm gonna take a shot. I gotta take a pee-pee, too. Because Vovolt was very tight. Let me just say something, too. I can roll with your pee-pees, man. Vovolt, thank y'all for stepping it up. I ain't gonna lie. Shout out to Slav, Rich.

I ain't gonna lie. I came in here. I said, they are showing off a push of T, and I'm with it. Yeah! So for real, this is the number one rapper in the motherfucking universe. He took out the unicorn. Chichi Geta Ye. Salo.

Salo. Salo. All right. Hell, man. That was a shot of some rock. I killed myself on that one. So, what's up? Being in this game.

Yes. And surviving this long. How difficult is that? Because you're in different genres. It's like I remember your first video. Wasn't it your first video grinding? Diane Martell? No.

No, that wasn't your first video. But that was your first major video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Major. 2002, yeah. 2002. So I remember that. I remember me actually going to virginia yeah going to virginia and me seeing shout out to nori yes yes nori peewee kirkland yes it was late i went to the projects too i was like oh shit these niggas got projects

and these niggas they got crackheads they They got feet. This is the same exact thing. Because I don't think nobody down south got anything. No, I'm just saying I was a child back then. So in my opinion, New York was the only hood ever. But that was happening. I thought everywhere else was kind of like nice and pretty. And when I went there, I was like, oh, shit. Everyone else is actually fucked up.

It's like when DJ Quick said, everywhere's like Compton. That's what Quick said. There you go. But one of the experiences was going to the grinding video and I'm just seeing that you guys was just out there. How was that introduced in Virginia, that other side? Because like you said, we had Mad Skills and Mad Skills was predominantly positive. We had a little bit of- No, no, he was a battle rapper. I mean battle rapper, but still., we had mad skills. And mad skills was predominantly positive. No, no, he was a battle rapper.

I mean battle rapper, but still. It wasn't necessarily a positive rapper. He was just an ill rapper. You're right, but I'm saying it wasn't talking about seeing Hector shoot up some heroin and seeing Uncle James sniffing coke in the level four. You know, man, Virginia at that time was so crazy. And it was a melting pot for like, I felt like just for everything. I felt like Virginia showed me all types of music. The New York influence was so heavy in Virginia, like super heavy at that time. I was personally, like that's what supported us.

I couldn't get on a mixtape. I couldn't get on a Clue tape for nothing. get on a clue tape for nothing you know i knew clue i knew everybody back then you know through rob walker right you know pharrell was you know he was uh he was hot at that time but we couldn't get on mixtapes we couldn't get on anything so all really all we had was virginia. And that video grinding to me sort of gave Virginia a face and a look and an identity that the world resonated with. It's so crazy because it was some little girls dancing in a video and doing like a step type dance or whatever. And I see these girls 16 years later in the mall or something.

They're like, hey, I was in your video. And just super excited. But really, you just saw the impact of having a rap identity for a place like Virginia that was like, you know, the hit. I mean, that record was a big record. It was a classic record. Oh, yeah. Definitely a classic record. You just saw the impact of it. Man, I appreciate it to this day.

I'm waiting to go back home. I want to go back home now. You said platinum on the block would consist of hits. Yeah. Pharrell keep talking this music shit. I mean, it's self-explanatory to me. But for people who it's not self-explanatory to, describe you saying, you being on the block and Pharrell saying, let's relax.

Yeah. Let's relax. Yeah. Let's go over there. You know, that's just something. That was a conversation that just always used to be had. Man, I remember being in the studio. I used to go to the studio with Pharrell every single day. Every day. In the mix of going to the studio, I'd be running in and out of the studio.

Right. And he'd come out and be like, no, I want you to hear this. And I wouldn't be there. Then I'd come back, man, where was you at? Right. He's a vibe guy. Right. He's a vibe.

He's an energy guy. He's an interpreter. Mm. He's an ill hook writer, but he will interpret your life in that hook. Into music. Right. So when you're not there, when you're not there physically and he can't feel nothing from you, you're fucking up the record. Right.

I'm running in and out. I'm going to make a walk. You work. Back and forth. You know what I'm running in and out. I'm going to make a walk. You're working. Back and forth. You know what I'm saying? And that was just my energy. Platinum on a block with consistent hits while Pharrell keep talking his music shit.

Was that like, you didn't believe in music? Well, I didn't, to be honest with you. I didn't either. I didn't. And I didn't. That's why I identified with that line. And it I didn't. I didn't. And I didn't. And I didn't. That's why I identified with that line. And it's weird now. You got to go to Virginia and go through this video. I said, I'm going.

I like that line that nigga said. I'm fucking with that. It's weird. It's weird. I didn't believe it either. It's weird because, you know, like I told you, my brother's five years older than me. When rap hit. Not Malice.

Yes, yes, yes. Oh, Malice? Malice is five years older than me. Oh, okay. Not Malice. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, Malice? Malice is five years older than me. Oh, okay. That's not my twin. Everybody can see that. That's not my twin. No.

My brother. My older brother. Do everything he said. Damn, y'all look just like that. Yeah, for sure. So, like, I remember being young and, you know, rap hit my first album, utfo roxanne sister worked in the record store you know he used to write raps i didn't i never i didn't write raps i was what's that what are you doing dummy you know you ain't paying me no attention i rip up the rap book you come fighting

damn you know he's ripping Yeah, I was fucking shit up. That hurts nowadays. I'm looking. But I mean, you know, just on some younger brother shit, that's just what I was into. That's what I did. And that's what he was into. By the time I got into late middle school, junior high, into high school, man, I was ashamed to tell people that I started rapping. That was not the way to go.

You don't tell nobody, what you mean you're rapping? What the fuck is rapping? Get the fuck... What you mean? You're rapping. You better get out here and get this motherfucking money. Period. That's the type of time they were on. rap wasn't really you know and it's still

it's virginia we still looked at we looked at teddy as teddy riley yeah you came from harlem yeah you know you came from the big city but he became a virginia boy yeah for sure but the poster it's still like there still wasn't wasn't our reach right you know I'm saying Pharrell is who gave me no bro like this really happens like how do y'all link with Pharrell them and Neptune's no he said they live a mile away no no I know they live them all the way but how do y'all all say yeah we had a mutual friend we had a mutual friend my my actual best friend and he um he was interested in her oh yeah and I was interested yeah and then when when he I

used to be with all the time so he would ask me he asked me like yo you know you dating or whatever and I was like nah like it's my homegirl or whatever and then when when they clicked up whatever then he found out who my brother was at this time i'm not rhyming they would all go to malice is already rhyming 100 he's all they did he's him him timberland pharrell all of them are down the beach rhyming they would go to the oceanfront and rap every weekend when he just doesn't know that's a movement already that's already a thing yeah local not popping but it's a movement it's a thing yeah and when did you hear the rumor of pharrell actually writing rum shaker um is it was it a rumor no that was it was a rumor i was i know i'm saying it started as a rumor and then people found out it was a real thing later. Yeah, but I mean, I was there for that.

Oh, yeah. My bad. Yeah, no, we was early. Scooters and bikes, this ain't even cars level. This is kid shit. And you there. You there when Teddy Riley asked Pharrell. I'm there getting ran off Of the premises

Of Future Records Like why are we going Why y'all come back over here Ah Type shit Wow Like it's This is way early yo

This ain't even But you knew Pharrell Had the ability To do that Because Teddy Riley's Like Teddy Riley's a big deal Like at that time

He's a big deal now He's an icon yeah He's still a big deal Yeah he's an icon Thank you for correcting me thank you for we can't forget what he's done but what i'm saying is but pharrell is he approached to do this job or um oh no no they had a um they had a talent show okay they had a talent show and teddy seen that seen the greatness in him oh wow and um then that's when we got to start walking in the walking in

the studio instead of just sitting outside and Sifu running us away. Y'all know Sifu? Sifu Yala. We know Sifu Yala. Sifu Yala. No, no, no. It's a totally different Sifu.

No, it's a different Sifu. It's a different Sifu. You know who I'm talking about? Okay, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. That's your shot right there, pooch. I'm just saying. If you just sit right there, that was not your shot.

I'm just saying. You got to go pee-pees? Go pee-pees, baby. I got to pee-pees. I've been having to pee so long. right there, Puss. I'm just saying. That was not your shot. I'm just saying. You got to go pee-pee. Go pee-pee. I got to pee-pee.

I've been having to pee so long. But I was so much involved with this. I got a question for him. Come on. How do we do this? Because Revolt, you got us tight. He's got to jump over. Shout out Revolt.

Shout out Revolt. What up, Pop? Revolt, Revolt. They said we got to push the T. Come on, we doing it. We got 18 cameras. Just push the Sunny right there. We got good shit happening. I'm sorry. got 18 cameras. Just push a Sunny right there. We got good shit happening.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Y'all should take my hand. No, no. I got a question. Do good. Just go feed these, man. You good.

Let's go, my guy. No, no, no. Leave it up. Leave it up. Let's take a little quick quiz. Wash my hands. It's coming right back. Pusha, when y'all...

Okay. I'm listening. When the clips... Yes. Who made up the name, the clips? We actually were fully clips, right? Fully clips. Fully clips, right?

Close to punning them. Well, because punning them had full of clips, we said we're going to pass on that. So they were first. Yeah, they definitely were first. Definitely didn't want to step on any toes with that. All right. So they were first. Yeah, they definitely were first. Definitely didn't want to step on any toes with that. And it was just too close. So when the grinding beat came on, I know you guys thought that it was a crazy ass beat.

Because I'm a DJ. I get the joint. Yeah, we did. All of us as DJs, the reason why the record, I think, went is because it was so different. Yeah. But as a DJ, I'm going to tell you right now, the way the beat came in, it was always off beat. Yeah. So we hated it. We hated and loved the record at the same time.

Were they fully clipped? What are you talking about? Listen, you can't cut. Damn, that was the fastest piss ever. Jesus Christ. I ain't bullshit. You must have fucking zoomed that piss. I already downloaded it.

Come on, come on, come on. So when the record was played for y'all. I remember, I did a record. No, no, when that record was played, what y'all think? Ooh, what the fuck? This is wild. This is so wild.

This is so wild. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yo. No, yo, the actual record grinding, man, that record, I wasn't at the studio. Pharrell was at the studio alone. He called me and said, hey, if you do not get here, I'm going to give this record to Jay-Z. And you better be here in 15 minutes. I swear to God.

And that scared you? Yeah. Yeah, because I don't like it. The thing about it is I'm very territorial. I hated it. Nori got nothing. I hated it. Like, I'm very angry.

So at that point, Nori got nothing? I don't know. Because Super Thug. No, no, no. Super know. Because Super Thug definitely came up at that point. I left with Super Thug. That was Nori. I got that. Things that I could do, I didn't want him to have. Just be honest with you.

I'm being honest. I think I had Grinding too. I didn't get a lot. I didn't want y'all to have that. I got a pop-up. He might have shot me Grinding. But Grinding is such an awkward record. I just want to know. I didn't want y'all to have that. I got a paper. He might have shot me grinding. But grinding is such an awkward record. I just want to know what you're thinking.

So he was like, yo, get here now. And if you don't do it, I'm going to give it to Hov. And I couldn't live with Hov having something that I thought that should have been for us. Needless to say, I got over there and I was like, this is crack. He was like, no, listen, I'm telling you, this is special.

He knew it was special off bat. He knew it was special off bat. That's probably the only record that I wrote three times. I don't write records three times. Damn, that's not it. Damn, that's not it. Damn, that's not it.

Okay, that's it. You know, but, and then when we did it, and at this time, mind you, Pharrell is like lit. He's lit. You know, hook wise, he's singing on every hook. Okay, boom, he not singing on this hook. And I'm like, damn. He just in the video going like this. Yeah, I'm like, damn, bro.

With a yellow hat. I'm like, yo, you not going like... He was like, yo, it ain't that. He was like, I'm telling you, you got the most special shit. And then he just gave me this whole theory like, man, y'all are my group. And, you know. Oh, shit.

Nipsey Hussle FaceTiming. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is a special moment. Nipsey Hussle FaceTiming live on DreamChance. Hey, yo. Nipsey, what's up, T?

Hey, yo. Hey, yo. What up, Nip? What up, Nip? What's up, G? Okay. what's up G? yeah hold on I'm in the water okay what the fuck man

what the fuck are we in New Orleans okay listen you know I know you know I know yes sir hey I ain't want you I just called in to show some love bro you already know sir hey man love you bro thank you appreciate that yes sir you appreciate that bro hey man All love, all love, all love, all love my brother. I got you man, ain't you soon as we finish. Alright, peace, peace.

Build a nifty house and make some noise. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I ain't going to lie, see I had a whole surprise. I had Jada kiss, I had pop daddy and I totally forgot. I didn't answer none of them names. Oh, wow. Like I was supposed to be there,

supposed to all call in, but I was just saying we were just so much into this conversation. I was just like, we didn't really need anything extra to add on to this because those are my guys. But that's what Drink Champs is. See Push I'm going to just be honest with you. After

people have 10 years in this game people write them off and people say that they're washed up and people say that it's over for them and people say that they can no longer produce and do what they do so that's not, that's what we want to do. We want to have a platform where it's the exact opposite. You know what I'm saying?

Where an old nigga like me, who's 40 years old, can sit here and spray some Givenchy and a motherfucking in the air and say, you know, you got to smell like Givenchy. Yeah, you deserve to be hitting the high. You know what I'm saying? We can say, yo, listen, if you got 10 years or more, this is where you come and you'll be celebrated. Not where you tolerate it, you celebrate it. Where's the place that these brothers have

10 years or more that they celebrated that? No, they put you in the washed up category. They tell you that it's over for you. And I wanted to break that barrier because I'm a hustler of all sorts. I've hustled, I've sold water to barrier because I'm a hustler of all sorts. Yes. I've hustled, I've sold water to wells.

Yes. You know what I mean? I've sold, you know, Totones to people who sell Platanos. Right. You get it? You know, I'm a hustler. So, I wanted to motherfucking make sure

that we have a platform for people who's been here, who's seasoned, but also understand the game. Right. Because there's a lot of us who have these same years that me and you have.

Yes. But they don't understand the new generation. They don't want to understand the new generation. They don't even want to go to the clubs and bop to it. Listen, let me tell you.

That's like, I feel like that's my calling in music right now. I feel like, you know calling in music right now. I feel like becoming a president of good music, man, you have to sort of be able to identify with what's going on outside. When I think about everybody who's great. I'm going to finish our rosé first. All right, cool. I'm close.

I'm going to be honest. Look at me. You did your thing. That's a different story. When I think about all the greats and everybody that I loved in music and I loved in hip-hop, I'm talking about from the golden era. Yeah, I'm listening.

I feel like their windows were so short because they didn't embrace what was next. Yep. Right. They didn't do that. And I'm talking about, now mind you, I think that these guys are like God level MCs. Right. But the one flaw that they had was they didn't say, hey.

With the next generation. Boom. They didn't identify. And I'm not saying that you got to, we ain't chasing trends. I'm not chasing no trends. But it's sort of like with anything else, man, if you get into the environment of it, you got to be able to appreciate, you got to be able to appreciate the energy that you're feeling when you're in that mix. You have to. Like, man, I just sit home in

Virginia, watch your own TV raps or watch Rap City and be pissed on the box. Listen, let me tell you something. I seen you say that story, right? And I'm going to give you an example. I'm going to offset your example. It was the same thing when

people seen Players Club. People seen players club in New York at the time you don't go to strip clubs right so so players club so people in New York made no sense right but for a person that went and traveled I was like players club is the fucking shit is late and people in my hood was like what like we don't we don't spend no money in the strip clubs that's how i was back then you know what i mean that's how i used to look at that's how i used to look at the bay area the bay area yeah the bay area for music i used to be pissed i should come on they do a whole little run i'd be like yo i'm not trying to see none of this shit until I got in a rap game. Get in a rap game,

go to the bay, and you realize, like, this is a whole culture and this is a thing and before you know it, you making a face and popping your collar and you having the greatest time of your life. That's how I look at the rap game.

Like, man, if you can get in the mix of it, you know, if you're still going outside, if you're still outside and you're still in the mix of it and you're in the mix of the energy of whatever this culture is, trap music, southern, whatever the case may be. It's hard not to like it when you see how people appreciate it. It's hard. Now, I'm not saying it's going gonna be your number one go-to you may look at it you may look at it for something else you know it's fun it's energy oh you know what I'm trying to be barred up I'm not going to that when I'm trying to have a great time party see the energy of people I'm definitely going to that. You just got to be able to differentiate.

And I felt like a lot of the people who did not embrace that way, who were supreme lyricists to me, that's why we can only talk about them for- One dimension. Five, four, five, three to five years. And that's it. It's just like when I see, you know, when I see females dancing reggaeton,

I say, this is nice. How can you not? And you know, listen, I don't know a word, but you know I'm going. When they go like that, you gotta like that. You gotta like that. You gotta like that. You gotta like that.

I'm just keeping it real, man. Yeah. I don't have, you don't have to know the words. You don't have to, you don't have to know nothing. Music is universal. That's the one thing that's totally universal to me is food and music. I remember one time I was stuck in Russia. I tell this story all the time.

I was stuck in Russia. Not when I was in Russia with you. There was another time. Remember that time we went to Russia. They had the actual bags. Norie was stuck in Russia and the guy not when I was in Russia which there is another time remember that time we went in Russia they had the actual barrier was in Russia we almost died Russia's against racism you know if you were in a place where they gotta say there gets racism brother you don't really belong there brother so but there's another time I'm in there and I'm in the first class lounge

and this guy, you could tell he's not racist. This is, maybe his experience after you. So you could tell this guy, or maybe it's before. You could tell this guy's not racist because he's just identifying me

and he's looking, he's like, he's pointing at this food like, this shit is trash. I'm Russian and this is trash. So I'm like, all right, I don't try that. But I'm like this,

boom, he's like, and I'm talking about we went through a whole, like this is an hour and he don't know who I am, I don't know who he is and then that was food

we bonded through. Later on, they figured out. They said, oh shit, somebody told him, but you know, it's just food and music.

You know what, rest in peace Anthony Bourdain. Anthony Bourdain, God damn. Rest in peace for sure. Rest in peace, Anthony Bourdain. Anthony Bourdain. Goddamn. Rest in peace for sure. Rest in peace, man. Yeah, man. That struck me, especially the suicide thing.

Yeah. Is because... Check on your friends, man. Yeah, man. You know, yeah, that's kind of weird when you see... Like, I look at him as if almost he had everything. He had everything. Everybody aspired to be an anti-mortem.

So why... And what did he... Hung himself. Hung himself. You know, it's good that you're talking about this, and I'm going to go ahead and admit something now. I'm just now understanding, like, mental health issues. Because of your brother Kanye?

Yeah. Okay. Because of him and these suicide things and things like that. But just to be honest with you, like, I didn't know that there was, like, a real thing. I didn't. No, you know, I'm raised in a super, like, I'm raised in a super, super black household. Religious black? Religious black.

Religious black. Like, religious black and just black. White Jesus is hanging. Black. Everything sounds black, but the white Jesus is hanging. Yo. And, you know, we use crazy so loosely. You know what I'm saying? Especially when a person don't have that.

So when a person, you say, you accuse a person of saying they're crazy and they have the world. Yeah. That's like, that's totally different. We don't even, we don't even, even resonate that's why for me for a long time they went crazy sanity is fickle man no one actually no one actually believed that let's tell you the truth listen but what i'm saying is you know understand that a lot of a lot of us are raised that way. Right. Like, you know, and you got to think about it.

And just think about our generation. Like, man, you know, I really knew my great-grandmother who was, like, a real slave and, like, can tell me, like, you know, can tell me, like, wild stories. God bless. Lived to, I don't even know how old she is. God bless. I don't know know How old she is God bless I don't know how old she was

Right Cause she was 106 For three years Wow In my mind Right You know like Right right

But what I'm saying is I'm saying that to say I was raised like that Because Uh They went through it all Right So you know

Crazy mental health The older generation Seem more Yeah It's like They see all the wildness ever So it's like You know I wasn't really through it all. So, you know, crazy mental health. The older generation has seen more. They've seen all the wildness ever. So it's like, you know,

I wasn't really, when it came to mental health, I was just like, I don't know what that's about. And I definitely don't know what that's about for people who have, you know,

who actually have like, you know, what we think are the things of life, like money, things like that. I'm just getting hip to things like that. We're living in different times where mental health doesn't make the same sense.

The quote unquote meltdown. What did you feel when you heard that? What do you mean? Kanye. It was like saying Kanye had a meltdown. You don't know him for that. You know him for being a genius. Right. You don't know him for that you know him for being a genius right you know you don't know him for the genius is equivalent with crazy to be yeah that's true but not having it together

and you hear that he doesn't have it together for this moment where do you feel you're talking about like like tour time and all that yeah when he was i mean you know i just um i just felt like you know still i don't equate that i wasn't equating that to something being off i'm just saying like you mean you speaking because i was walling out yeah because i don't you know like i said i don't look at things and i i'm just now like when i tell you just now bro like i'm just getting hip to the science of mental instability right you know what I'm saying and no

mental instability with people who you know have it all right well what we think because people you think

have it all like when you think of mental instability you think of the guy that's on the corner homeless yeah exactly that type of shit

yeah you don't think of a person with yeah you don't think of a person with yeah you don't think like that one of the most beautiful women on the planet right right

all of that type of great shit you don't think of that which is goes back to as much as we work for money like

it's just there like you know like I've had money I've lost it I've had it I've lost it I haven't lost it.

And it really doesn't make me know, never mind, at this point. Like at this point, it's just like I'm 40 years old. I'll be 41 in September 6th. So if you weigh out the options, I've kind of been more up this year, 21, from 20 on. I've been more up than I've been down by one year. Right. What is there really to complain about? Right.

Facts. But there's people who have it even more than me. Well, I saw a friend of mine posted something today about Anthony Bourdain. And they were talking about the chemicals in our brains. The serotonins, the things that make us feel good.

Which drugs, drug addicts can understand this. Because when you pump drugs into your system... Because he was a coke addict. He was heroin? Oh yeah, I forgot about was a coke addict. He stopped doing coke. Well, he was heroin? Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Oh, I don't even know.

Yeah, Anthony Bourdain in his early years. Oh, man. But he still got drunk. But if you think about it, as an addict, the fact that he drank, continued to drink. I mean, whatever. That is what it is. But I'm just saying, he was an addict. And then the person that wrote this post that I'm talking about, she was mentioning how, like, people who have, need these, you need to get these, the drugs in our brain, they're real.

Right. These are the things that feed us. They give us the highs and the lows in our minds. You know what I'm saying? Right. So, he was going on the road. He was going into different countries, going into these different places. And that was replacing drugs.

Because that's the reason why I bring that up is because that's what reminds me when I listen to Ye's album. And I'm talking about his album. He talks about like killing people and he talks. And I didn't I did. I thought it was being artistic until I like. I mean, I think it's still I don't. I'm was being artistic until I like I actually I mean I think it's still I don't

I didn't think it was still being artistic no but yeah I mean I don't know I didn't take it that crazy but where was you at you getting these TMZ interviews when oh yeah I mean you know

I mean listen it was listen I mean we could talk on so many different levels when it came to that just I mean,

well, first of all, let's just talk about the business. Like, man, we got a whole, we got a whole, by this time,

we've got a whole five albums that we have decided that we're putting out so on and so forth. This is what we're doing. So he's obviously very calculated. We're very, we're on it.

We lit. The label. Yeah, the label. Because you're a part of the label. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay. You are the head of the label.

You know, my album's damn near finished. If not finished, it's cracked. Boom, I'm happy. Everybody else, Nas in the mix. Boom. And he comes and he has his TMZ interview. And from that point on, I'm just like, well. This is the slavery comment.

Yeah, I'm like, well, there's absolutely positively nothing that's going to be louder than that. And I was like, then I'm like, man, I'm first. There's no press that I'm going to do. I'm not going to do any press. Because that's going to be asked. That's going to be the press. Right. press that I'm going to do. I'm not going to do any press because that's going to be asked. That's going to be the press. And I was just like, man,

this is going to be the press for the remainder of it. You know, I just felt like it was... So did that bother you though? Did that happen before? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So as like business partners, I mean, you're my friend. Yeah, in business. You're like, yo, why would that have to happen? In business, I was... My business mind was saying, wow. I don't know how we're going to move this like this.

Because my thing is, yeah, shit. He speaks about it on the album as if his wife even asked him that. Okay. Listen, it was really a real, it was a thing. So it's like, man. It's more than a thing. Yeah, it was a thing. So it's like, man. It's more than a thing. Yeah, it was a real thing. So it's like, at the same time, business-minded and thinking, it's like, man, I like, like

everybody, everybody needs to hold their own weight. It's like, okay, boom, he going to produce it. That's cool. Boom, boom. We get to get out here and run with the ball when it's our time to run with the ball that's that's just how i feel like it should go right well he sort of took the ball away with that so it was nowhere to run right and um you know i feel like at the same time when that happened um he took the ball and then it got into like you know it was him it was him tweeting and talking and just got he became donald trump right he really became he

really became vocal in regards i don't want to say he's drunk not uh he well no he went in in the presence of trump like how Trump does it you can never explain yourself on Twitter right Trump explains himself on Twitter you can text me and say what's up and I can text you and say what's up and I can think you beefing

and you can think I'm saying what's up you know what I'm saying I get what you're saying I get it I just felt like he took the ball. He took the ball. And it was uneasy for me. It was a little bit uneasy for me because, like I said, I feel like he produced it.

We run with the ball. We do what we're supposed to do in our respective veins, in lanes and genres or whatever. But he took it, man, and it's panned out. Rob Markman, Jr.: How was him and T.I.'s record? I got one more question and then I'll let you go. Him and T.I.'s record, because that was like... To me, I had a record... Me and Capone has a record called The Argument. That's the only record that's better than that record is me and Capone has a record called The Argument. That's the only record that's better than that record.

It's me and Capone. Shut up, Capone. Shut up, Capone. It's called The Argument. It's basically the same as that record. Capone, I got you your driver's license. Remember I took you to go get your license at the VA? Oh, I do remember that.

I do remember that. Be very fucking clear, people. Oh, shit. God damn it. Yo, I still need a driver's license. Pussy, can you still got the connection? very fucking clear, people. Oh, shit. God damn it. Yo, I still need one of the driver's license. Pussy. You still got the connection? Hug me up, nigga.

Well, what the fuck was I saying, man? I was into that. Argument. Argument. All right. So, him and T.I.'s record. That was also done in real time, okay? How you said...

Right, right. Like, I think that was the most brilliant record. I mean, the people... Because we're just not ready to... We're still in infinite stages. You can't give a stick right now. Right. So I don't think the people

was ready for that. But I think the concept was brilliant. Yeah. Were you there or part of that? No, no, no. I wasn't. But some people might feel it was set up also.

Well, I feel it was set up. I mean, it's okay. I mean, they were arguing. I mean Like it's okay I mean they were arguing I mean No I'm saying It was actually a debate on record I mean I think that's a genius way To defuse something

So someone could say Nah bro This is a way out Of the situation Okay A genius way out of it You don't get it? Yeah

I liked it I thought I should have I'm not saying if we like it or not I'm just saying I thought I should have made that up I'm playing the devil's advocate out of it. You don't get it? Yeah, I liked it. I'm not saying if we like it or not. I'm just saying. I thought it should have made that. I'm playing the devil's advocate to that. I thought it should have made that. What do you think?

You enjoyed him scrapping the whole album. Yeah. Because he scrapped his own album as well. Yeah, he did actually. Right. And started off from TMZ. Right. Why?

Because Man, that guy really works off feeling. Right. And you know he really works off feeling and it's always about taking it to the next level

for him. At the same time he also is like okay boom TMZ happened we not going to keep living in TMZ.

Right. We going go to the next his mind is always you know Did he regret the TMZ happened we're not going to keep living in TMZ we're going to go to the next his mind is always you know did he regret the TMZ or not at all uh I don't think he regrets it I feel like he I feel like he um we've had conversations about messaging and things like that and and how it was messaged which where it could have been better and so on and so forth but you know i feel like there's a bigger picture for him you know i'm saying and i feel like a lot of things got lost in uh in the keywords you know i'm saying versus like there

was a messaging that obviously to me it seemed like he like he mismessaged on TMZ. I felt like he had a valid idea that mismessaged. No, no, no. When we speak about it, when he's like, man, you know, they say like,

damn, push, you know, I really do. I want to learn. I feel like we all should be learning how Magic became a billionaire instead of learning da-da-da-da. Hold on. We got Jadak calling it yo Jada

kids what's going on you already know what it is my brother congratulations congratulations on putting the grip on them thank you sir bringing that talk back to the real street general listen you you heard yonkers get the shout out on my album for real that was you that was for you you and styles and chic you know it we appreciate that bro you're on fire just keep the gas lit you know what i mean thank you sir up to the whole good music you're putting up great projects looking forward to that nice album yes sir love big for the culture you know what i mean yeah yeah thank you thank you kids oh what's this shit push push and you get that love listen i'm just i just totally forgot i had Thank you, kid. Push, push.

And you get that love. Listen, I just totally forgot. I had to hit everybody in the industry to call in. And then I totally got so much into your conversation, I answered the phone for no one. Wow. But how do you feel about getting that type of love? I could hit anybody. Man.

Everybody wanted to call in. Listen, I really appreciate it. And for real, for real, these are all people I respect. And Nipsey Hussle. These are the people who did get through. Nipsey Hussle and Jadakiss.

God damn it. Totally respect Nipsey for sure. That's my guy. Jadakiss, man, I was riding off of State University myself, going to buy mixtapes from the bootlegger. The clue is shouting out that he going to beat up when he see him. The African niggas with the smelly armpits.

Like, man, to hear the beginning of the clue tape and the end of the clue tape with the locks, like, it's, you know, man, it just, for real, it says a lot. It says a lot that I'm even, it affects me a lot that I even get to kick it with these guys like this. That I even, you know, have the relationship and the rapport that I have with the Jadakiss, Fabulous, and Noriega. But you realize you're a legend as well. Yeah, for sure. Okay. For sure. Okay.

I'm like, man, it's crazy this is my peer group, but this is my peer group before I was a peer. You know what I'm saying? Got it. Got it. Talk that shit, man. Talk that shit. And I'm talking about still great. All the ones that were great to me then are still great to me now.

Still, you know. Still getting money. Still getting money. Still got to listen to them to be motivated. You got to still get money. But let me just say something. Because if your greats ain't still getting money nowadays, you'll be looking at them. Right, right.

No, no, no. Be clear. You're still great, but eh. Be clear. You got to still be getting money. Listen, you have to be.

You got to still get money some type of way. You have to. Some type of way. Sell soaps. Listen, listen, man. Sell soaps. I went to VAR.

I'm sorry. That's what I feel like, you know, that's what the game is. That's what rap is for me. It's still the youngest genre, right? We'll be like 44 years in. Right.

And it's good for us to be able to sit here and be like, man, I'm at Dream Champs. I know there's like 240 probably a month that just comes to this guy. I don't know. Was he your first signing designer? Yeah. So you get the job with good music. Yeah. And then they say you got to produce?

Or you just own MySpace or something? No, no, no. What happens is, see, a lot of shit has happened with a good, involving new shit. We take it all the way back to My Name Is My Name. That album came out 2013. In making that album, I came under a lot of fire for having a song called Pain with Future on it. I go to the studio.

Me and Ye'll be together for a while. We leave. I go home. Boom. Come back Yeo be together for a while. We leave, I go home, boom, come back. First question he asks, what's hot? I be like, Future's the God, what you talking about? He be like, what's that? What you mean? You play it, you know what I'm saying?

He gets into it. Oh man, get him up here. Future get on pain. That's how it goes. People killing me. What you mean? You rap, why you got Future on pain that's how it goes you know people killing me what what you mean you rap why you why you got future on pain i'm like man this is what's hot what are you talking about this he's crazy i think i'm using him in a in a way that's not compromising myself you know i feel like we work together you you yeah you know and we found a way to make a marriage with it. Paying one of my favorite records.

You know, same time, you know, he may ask me, yo, what's going on? I'm like, what you mean what's going on? Chief Keef, what's going on? You bugging? Like, he from Chicago. What you mean? Yeah, so, you know.

What's that? Play that. Boom. I like that kid. Young child. Okay, boom. Let me remix that. All right's that? Play that. Boom. I like that kid. Young child. Okay, boom. Let me remix that. All right. We do the remix. Boom. And you found Desiigner the same way? Same way.

Desiigner was on like, I was heavily into Future. Like, you know, just as an artist. Like, man, he's dope. And I heard him. I heard Desiigner, I want to say through SoundCloud maybe and um and so my manager was also into him and I was like yo you heard that new future I saw was just playing who's your manager Steven Victor big up mom so I was like yo shout out Steven Victor he always liked his name said.

He's like first and last. Get on my fucking nerves. Stephen Victor, what up, dog? So, you know, I'm like, yo, you know, New Future crazy. And he's like, what? So I'm like, you know, I played it. And I played his honor. And he was like, man, this shit's fire.

I was like, yes, kid named Zyner. This is the next wave. Watch him. Talking back and forth. By that time, it reached Ye. I think he probably went to L.A., played him for Ye. Also...

Stephen Victor, you said? Yeah. Okay. By this time, it was other A&Rs around, playing Pat. He was around during that time as well. For Def Jam. Yeah. And he's a good now though.

But he played it as well. And Ye was like, okay, go find him. And went back to Brooklyn, saw that he had other characters. You know, Desiigner was probably like 18 at the time. So you know, he was like 18 and just had different colors with him. Different energy, different colors, and ended up on a Pablo album from Panda. Rob Markman, Big Records. ended up on a Pablo album from Panda. Yeah. Big record.

Yeah. Panda was like 14, 16 million, something like that. Timmy Turner about two or four. Timmy Turner. Yeah. You still working? You still working? Yeah. All right.

So does that really come in threes? Well, that's what they say. I heard you say that. Yeah. Oh, no, no. That's a saying. I know it's a saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Heard you reiterate the saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Recently, and I'm just like. Oh, I'm saying that because there's three people involved in it. Okay. Okay. How appropriate. Mm.

Mm. Yeah. Okay. So, now, valet. Let's end this with this. Yeah. Valet. Let's not, man. Let's keep Mm. Mm. Yeah. Okay. So, now, valet. Let's end this with this. Yeah. Valet. Let's not, man.

Let's keep talking. Okay. All right. Cool. You know, Mr. Lee and all of them, they got to relax. Right. I burn. You know, all you got to do is burn Mr. Lee's hair.

Right. Like, the hair on his arm. You just burn the person's hair. Shout out Mr. Lee. He keep asking to be on my albums and shit, man. I'm so tired. Let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something. Let me just say something

One Stella The album he says he says no jury on but I'm the richest nigga in the here. He said, you think he talking about me, B? I looked at Mr. Lee and I said, you got to relax. That nigga like

been kicking him out. Yo. It's in the studio, whatever, it's in my mind. Amazing, man. Yo, Mr. Lee is a funny nigga.

Amazing, man. So listen, and listen, I'm going to be honest, Mr. Lee is so funny so listen and listen um I'll be honest mr. Lee all your friends your rapper friends are drug dealers like I'm not gonna lie if the fence is watching somebody's definitely yeah you know you know but all right let me just take it back for one second push now take it back because you see what happened I mean in the public's conception for a while Meek was I mean, in the public's conception for a while, Meek was finished. In the public's conception. Not to say he was financially washed or financially... But in the public's conception for a long time,

after back-to-back... Right. People were... It was back-to-back. Back-to-back. She got nominated for a push max which means nothing to me but go ahead I've never got nominated yeah no I got nominated didn't even see me my passes I said fuck never win never win and my Yeah. Never wins, never wins. And Miami, the Grammy shit, nah, I let part of them go by themselves. But, so now, you're back to back nominated for a Grammy.

Right. This nigga drops, doopey freestyle. You thinking that this can be the same? Or you're saying, nah, I'm going to reevaluate this situation. You knew, because you knew about, you knew, you had private investigators and shit. No, it was four days. Did you have private investigators? No, no, no.

I just kicked the information. We never got to that. How'd you get there? How'd you get there? Wow, man. People are like. I don't know. I don't understand what you're saying.

You know, people are just. People are like... I don't know. I don't understand what you're saying. You know, people are just... People are what? People are disloyal. Disloyal or disloyal? Disloyal. Disloyal. I don't... You know, I don't...

That's it. What you saying? It was niggas... Information came through disloyal people. Yeah. And not on my side, man. You know? I mean, to your benefit.

Yeah, right. Yeah. That's it. I mean, to your benefit. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's it. So you just held it. You just like... Mm-hmm. That's all. I'm going to hold this for the right time.

That's all, man. That's all, man. God damn it, I carried it over. It don't get no smoother than that. So for the record, it's over though. It is over. Yeah, as far as I know, it's over. You haven't spoken to Jay Prince, though.

No, I haven't. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him. Rob Markman, the real Smitty the Nat. Rob Markman, the real Smitty the Nat. So for the record, it's over though. It is over. Yeah, as far as I know, it's over.

You haven't spoken to J Prince directly. No, no, no, I haven't, but like I said, he talked to my management and everything. It was cool. It was a done deal. It was cool. Now, did you think you went too far? No, no, no, I don't believe in too far. Yeah, okay. No. Especially after mentioning. Never. There's no such a thing. No such a thing. All right. So now, moving forward. Right. Everybody

says it's over. I got the album of the year. You got the album of the year. That's it. That's what I'm saying. You did say you saw Baby in the elevator in Beverly Hills. I did, man. You did. You did see Baby in the elevator in Beverly Hills. Yes, man. Is this the Four Seasons? I feel like it's the Four Seasons.

Close. Yeah. Close? Is it Mr. C Hotel? No, you know, one of those type of things. One of those? Okay, all right. I'm involved.

Right, right. Okay. So now, what happens if you're at Four Seasons now? Waldorf. Right. Very nice. What happens, man? You been there at the Waldorf?

Yeah, super nice. Super nice. I ain't going to lie. Super fresh. You don't even got to walk in. You can smell it. You can be like, yo, that's money in there. Remember when we jogged?

I was like, I said, the Waldorf is right there. I said, how you know? I said, I smell that shit. We were a mile away. 100%. I smell man. Yeah, he goes. So you're at the Waldorf.

Right. Drake walks in. Right. You're in your, what happens? What do you mean your what happens? What do you mean what happens? I'm asking. Like you walk in the elevator

then Drake walks in. Bro, I mean It's over. You know, I don't I don't know. I mean, you know I'm fine. Like what is it

to talk about? I mean, we never like really had we've never had conversations. We never It's over, man. Alright, alright. Not in the elevator because that's like to keep on anywhere you know it's just

what it is unless something happens something happens is nice what I'm just saying like if he said y'all wanna holla at you what would be your media yeah he can say $1 me that was probably just talk right this is this was yeah yeah I'm boy Bauer what is the goal power power steak house right boy boy yeah I'm gonna stay right right line of riches Richie's right here. Damn. Lionel Richie right there? I don't know.

You got to throw Lionel in there somehow. Somehow you got to throw Lionel because he's mixed. You got to throw him in there. So Lionel's in the middle. I went to Boa. Is that a Drake reference? No, no. I'm just saying.

You got to leave Lionel in there because no one wants to fight in front of Lionel. Right? No one. What's he saying? I don't know what he's saying. What's he saying? I don't know. In front of Lionel and everything.

All right, cool. You walk into a restaurant. He's trying to find out your point. He don't know your point yet. Listen, you walk into a restaurant. Lionel Richie's in the middle. Right. Drake is on the other side. Right.

And you're on the other side. Right. Is's Chuck man. Johnny there do y'all speak Do y'all give the you know, it's a universal thing if you black when she's on a black person Do you give the head nod? Now there's no head. I don't got much to talk about man. I have nothing but a head nod It's like university like you I'm giving they got You know you see another black man you like this do you give him the head nod if you see him like this No, I don't want to know what up any time.

You don't? I'm cool. I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to just be here. Know a head nod? Your dream. Your dream as a fellow black man in the room.

You know the head nod. Don't do it, John. Don't do it, dude. It's real. It's minimal. It's minimal. Every, yo, come on, Rich. The head nod, you know, especially when you're in a can.

You just always see another black named like... I'm cool. You saying he don't even get that? I'm cool. Like, listen, bro. I'm... Listen. It works.

It's fine, man. That's in the deck, goddammit. I want to thank you for coming out and hanging out with the Drink Champs. Thank you, man. Being here with us, we've been waiting for you for so long. And not because of this negative thing.

It's because of the positive thing from the beginning. Great album. Because people want to... We want to praise our legends. We want to praise people while they're here. We want to give the people their flowers, where they can smell them, their trees, where they can inhale them, their thoughts, where they can think them, and their drinks, where they can drink them.

You know what I'm saying? Because so many people want to praise a person. They want to say, this guy is the guy when he's gone. And this guy, nah, but how about the people when they're alive? That's what we want to do. And I realize there's no platform for that. I realize that. And this is the reason why me and my partner, DJ EFM, we got together. we said, we're going to give people, these people that got 10 years or more, and we're going to sit there and we're going to celebrate them.

And especially people, and most of the time when they got 10 years or more, it's not people that they quote unquote say is relevant. Right, right, right. So when we got people that we give praise 10 years or more and that's relevant, it's a plus on a plus on a plus. Listen, man. So we would like to thank you for coming here. Because it's hard to fucking be 10 years and relevant anyway. So goddammit, thank you for coming here and holding us down. Yeah!

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