Drink Champs - Episode 138 w/ Fat Joe

Episode Date: September 14, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with returning guest Fat Joe. The guys discuss Puerto Rico, 50 Cent & Ja Rule, Joe's music strategy and a lot more! F...ollow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 I want to know happy our studio We gotta run that again and they gotta end up with me because I've been on drink chat What a good boy you know I eat whatever DJ even what up is your boy Joe crack the door By the way by the way bad Joe I went to New York the other day and I seen Sean Peck us Did you ever see his cigar collection? He's like a beast with cigars. I'm offering you a cigar cuz it is your birthday I'm only only drink cigars when I'm pissy That's when I smoke a cigar, when I feel like I'm that nigga. I can't just smoke one. Sean Beckas is a fraud.
Starting point is 00:04:11 What? Oh my god. Sean Beckas is a fraud. Diego, shut up. Let me tell you something. Shut up, Diego. Shut up. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:04:19 This guy, if you don't know, we destroyed him because he was cheating me with the wine. I said it on your show. So he said, yo, you went on the number one show. You told niggas my gimmick. You paid half and half the bill, but I really drink the wine. That's why he gave you the cigars so we could talk nice and mild. Show up back as you fucking nigga. He didn't give me these cigars, but that day at Juulon, big up CZ Baskin, big up to Camilo Anthony.
Starting point is 00:04:45 We got to hang out with them that night. It was fun, man. But, Joe, you got this new single out right now. Yes, sir. It sounds 1990 now. Like, meaning, like, it sounds like that old school, you know, with the vibe to it. Like, you know, like the... The team eternal.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It's now. But it's now. Like, what made you just keep going the then it's now but it's now like what made you just keep going and it's with Dre again yeah well you know I got a project with Dre mmm cool and Dre just for people that don't know but Dre of cool and Dre and by the way I don't have it on right now but cool and Dre yesterday they bought me a Skydweller let's make some noise for cool and Dre I saw that and I looked at my friends and I said, I gotta step my friends up.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Nah, nah. It took me 20 years to get one. It took me 20 years to get one. I'm not gonna lie. You gave me a ton of tickets. Fuck the watch. When they gave me the watch, I was like, this nigga's rich. They're rich.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Right. Nah, but it felt so good, man, that my brothers gave me the Sky Dweller. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man. That's such a beautiful thing. What are you drinking? Eat? Yo, can you open up some wine for me? You got wine right there?
Starting point is 00:05:48 No, let that one chill. That one felt like it was chilled more. You ain't gonna fuck it up by opening up wine. This one's better? Okay, cool. You don't have to disrespect my ice though, man. So are you set up yet, Diego? Let us know, B. Let us know, man. Come on, man. What do you want champagne? Huh? What do you want champagne? Let us know, V. Let us know, man. Come on, man. Huh?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Oh, you want champagne. You got to have a glass of champagne. I have a glass of champagne. Champagne or what? I'm working hard today. You're not drinking like you did last show? No, I'm not going to drink like that because Sunday's my birthday party and I'm pissy drunk. And I got my flight already. I'm flying up just for your party.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Too much pissy drunk. Like, you know, on my birthday and New Year's, I'm drunk. There's no way around it. Like, I'm actually trying to stop myself from getting drunk too fast. You know, because the party starts at 8. So I'm like, damn, don't be drunk. Don't be drunk by 9.30. You're going to miss heavy.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Well, if you hang out with this guy. Well, that guy got me drunk at 12 noon. That's a different time. This guy will get drunk at 6 in the morning. Happy birthday to you. Hello. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Hold on, hold on, hold on. And we black, too. We black, too. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We black, too. Happy birthday to you. Wait until the Latino one, yeah. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. We ain't done a Latino one yet. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Happy birthday to you. And then we also Spanish. Hold on. We also Spanish. I'm going to tell you this story. Let's go. Let's go. It's his birthday.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm going to tell you. Rest in peace, my girl, my man. Oh, shit. Shots fired. He was a homeless dude. We live around forest projects. He was a homeless dude. He lived around forest projects. And we would find him.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We'll go find him on the roof. We'll find him wherever he was sleeping. And we pay him $5. The nigga come to the party. He don't even know whose birthday it is. And he start crying and shit. No, he be like. And then we be like Miguel come on he goes
Starting point is 00:08:05 Peace me y'all got time. We've got to see this band's version. Come on. I don't see the way you see A lot of Spanish niggas here. Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale!
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Starting point is 00:08:21 Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Lale! Bobby Swing, Garbasa, Papa. Yo, what's this cup? What's this cup? What's this cup? Where? Where?
Starting point is 00:08:29 What's this cup at? And it's also Mr. Lee's birthday. It's a Latino birthday around here. I can't believe I see Mr. Lee working, passing cups and shit like that. I'm like, damn. I usually see that nigga chilling. I wanna show you what's happened to my cousin right now Is it do we got a roaming camera? He's gonna be in big. He's gonna be in big. Listen, for the people who are involved, I'm gonna send y'all this video so you can put this up there.
Starting point is 00:09:09 My cousin has been cocaine'd out. No way. They have transferred him to the cocaine crew. No, we gotta stop it. We gotta stop it. Yo, Bobby, you don't come back from that. You don't want that hectic Camacho flow. He was doing it in the islands, man. Come on. He got that shit in theacho flow. He was doing it in the islands, man.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He got that shit in the islands. You know our engineer, I got something, I got something. It wasn't a full glass. I'm not going, but you know our engineer, I have to drive, Uncle Dan's doing shit in Miami. You know our engineer, He did drive, I didn't see him drive.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You know our engineer, we did a whole episode where we're on our test. And our engineer was so high of cocaine, there's no audio. This guy? Yeah, has this app. He turned up. He turned up.
Starting point is 00:09:55 What the fuck is going on? This is Miami, man. No way. This is where you live at, bro. They think it's the 80s right now. Yo, puppy, stop. They got to run out of this shit. They're like at the 80s right now. Yo, Boppy, stop. They got to relax. They're like at the Miami Vice.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You know what's up, baby? All right, stop. And he's going to be me. He's like, yo! So Joe. Does it work? Hip hop has been very interested these past couple of months. So many albums is dropping, so many things have taken place.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So much antics. There's so much things going on. What has been your most surprising moment of these past couple of months? Whoever's back there, yo, relax. My most surprising moment of these months? I don't know, I think we got, I think this, for real hip-hop. What do you consider real hip-hop? Let's just define that. Damn, why you trying to do that, EFN? You know what I mean by hip-hop, real hip-hop. What do you consider real hip-hop? Let's just define that. Damn, why you trying to do that EFN? You know what I mean by hip-hop, real hip-hop. I mean, you know, the kind of music we listen to. Not just boom-bap, it could be the nobody, but the kind of music we love. Lyrical content has been a hell of a year.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You know what I'm saying? Nori's album's been amazing. Yeah. Five years. I'm so proud of him. No, you can't. Like, I listen to the album 12 Midnight. That's the new shit. Wow. So 12 Midnight, I'm listening to your album. I'm blasting it. On Fridays.
Starting point is 00:11:18 You know your wife think the record about her is the record about her. I go everywhere with her. Yeah. I see her. You fuck this shit up for other niggas. For other niggas? That's right. You make the record. I be with her. I go everywhere with us. Yeah, I see a fucking shit up father That's right, that's right man, I mean, um, yeah So how you feel about the success of the album? I just actually I haven't even paid attention to any success about it. I just wanted to make a body
Starting point is 00:11:47 of work and throw it out there. I got a chance to do it. I got a chance to get with Mass Appeal in Bahamas and they rented a big studio and they're out there. I think they're doing a compilation or something like that. There's a Mass Appeal retreat? I believe something like that. You know, record labels
Starting point is 00:12:03 ain't do that in so long. No, that's what I'm saying. I remember recording for the Firm album. They would take us to Beardsville or they'll He'll retreat. I believe in something like that. You know, record labels ain't do that in so long. No, that's what I'm saying. I remember recording for the Firm album. They would take us to Bearsville or they'll fly us to Miami when Miami was that place to be. So you know what I'm saying. Before it was recorded
Starting point is 00:12:15 and to see it come to fruition. But me, period. I just like the competitiveness. I just like what's going on. Everyone is on. But you know what? I'm going to tell you, Joe, there's been so much good material. I think at least 70% of it
Starting point is 00:12:31 has been overlooked. Because it's too much. No, I think this has been an amazing year. It has. Vice versa for everybody, man. You could tell when I went to your album release party, that's the first time in so many years. We used to do it like that.
Starting point is 00:12:51 But people are so proud of what's going on in the hip-hop scene where you got Nas, you got Raekwon, you got the MySongs, you got AZ, you got Buck Wilde, you got Mano, you got Fat Joe, you got everybody. It was all in my album with Luce Barty, by the way. Fat Joe. I turned you up, see you up. Come on. Y'all got to clap more, motherfuckers. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And that's just, that's where the state of hip hop is right now. I'm loving with hip hop. This is the happiest I've been in a long time about hip-hop in a long time Not the happiest ever right, but this is the happiest I've been in a long time about hip-hop You know I can't get over the push your tea album. I still love the Drake album I still you know everything I mean, you know every it's been a lot of hot albums man A lot of hot albums job. It's still the old drink champions Sunny gotta be around
Starting point is 00:13:58 Sunny was eating a bottle. You know my dudes sunny still sweating profusely As soon as I seen sunny eat the oyster oyster shell, that's the first time. That's some Big Pun shit. Wow. Big Pun would have did that fucking with us. Get out of here. Yeah, you know, Pun was crazy. He would open the bottles like that and all that shit. No, I've really seen Pun eat pork chops and applesauce.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Like, I've never thought that was a thing. Yeah, I never thought that was a thing. No, he did it for you. I never thought that was a thing. Because he said it all around, pork chops and applesauce. And I was like, I didn't know that was a thing. Because he said it all around, pork chops and applesauce. And I was like, I didn't know that was a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And everybody was like, oh, everybody eats pork chops and applesauce. No big puns in Icon. Of course he is. Absolutely. Let's make sure you know he's a fucking
Starting point is 00:14:33 big pun guy. It's an amazing thing because now I look back, I sit back, and I get to reflect back. We've been in this game Over 20 years And I'm like
Starting point is 00:14:47 Whoa Like we really brought A motherfucking Top five icon In this bitch Absolutely You know what I mean Some people consider him
Starting point is 00:14:54 Top five You know what I'm saying Some people consider him Number one Yeah So what I'm saying to you Is like we You know
Starting point is 00:15:00 Really was with him You know what I'm saying Beautiful thing Now that watch you have on Is that a half a million that's a million That's a straight man a segue because that watch let you your watch is just me. I don't know I was going to go you way out his way. I don't want to say You have to I ain't gonna lie you get it you live lives over a million Over a million. Let's make some noise for that. Look, certain niggas didn't even clap. Niggas was like, what?
Starting point is 00:15:27 You got a band down there? Like, this shit been through the Harlem, through the Bronx, through Queens. It's not no normal shit, Fat Joe. Nah, it ain't normal, but you know what? I seen you had it. Did I see 56, you went and got it after that? You went and got it. I seen that after that.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But you know, it's like, since I was 14 I've been hustling on the streets just to get fly. You know what I'm saying? To me, success is being fly every day, wearing whatever we want, smelling how we want, eating like we want. And I ain't going to let nobody deter that. I ain't let nobody deter that when I got caught for the taxes. I remember my fucking accountant came and the first thing he did was look at my house on the water he was like oh no you got to get out of here I said no you got to get the fuck out of my house nigga I ain't moving you don't say cuz niggas you know you get these accountants and
Starting point is 00:16:15 he try to make you cut back and all that I'm like hey man I've been rich I've been broke I've been rich I've been broke I've been rich I've been broke I don't give a fuck. Ain't nothing new. You know what I'm saying? As long as we eating, we living good, you know what I'm saying? I don't care, man. I love being fly. That's just the bottom line, man.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Oh, man. God damn it, man. Let's make some noise for that. Now, is your favorite part of the game, because it feels like you're kind of more comfortable dropping singles on the hair and hair tip. No, it's just, that's the, all right. What happens is we just got to adapt to what's going on now.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I've always been a hustler businessman. I'm going to do what's better for the money, right? But at the end of the day, I love putting out albums and bodies of work. Like if albums was still selling 100,000 first week and all that shit we all would have been rushing to do albums But the truth is you put out a single like do you know? All the way up won't stop like it like it won't keep selling and the streamin So I don't think people have gathered the thought Of streaming Right Streaming is open
Starting point is 00:17:26 24 hours a day While we sleeping Somebody's playing it And we making money It's that And it keep going Right It ain't about first week sales
Starting point is 00:17:34 No more with streams Right It's about niggas Keep listening to it And God forbid Something happens That goes viral That goes viral
Starting point is 00:17:41 And niggas just keep streaming And streaming And streaming And before you know it You you, like, it made me so much money. Like, I don't, it just keep making money. Thank God for Ghazi, who you introduced me to. M.B.I. M.B.I.
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Starting point is 00:17:58 M.B.I. M.B.I. M.B.I. M.B.I. So, you know, I love making albums. With Dre, our album, we two songs away. Two songs away from a classic. Two songs away. Like this shit is really, last time you were there, this shit is really becoming ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And it's because the state of hip-hop. Your album being fire. Nas' album being fire. Your album's made a comeback. It seems like album's made a comeback. It seems like albums made a comeback. You know, all these, Jay-Z, Beyonce album,
Starting point is 00:18:28 all them shits being fire made us look at our shit and be like, yo, our shit got to be super fire. And that's where the game's at right now.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You know, as much as success as we got, right? Like us. I think everyone has a little bit of pettiness still, right? Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Do you think Jay-Z dropped his album on the same day as Nas on purpose? I mean, this is just industry insider shit that people are hearing. You don't know. You're just saying this. This is no facts. Drunk facts. Not even. This is no facts.
Starting point is 00:18:56 No facts. This is the no facts. It's weird that it dropped the same day. Let's just give it that. You know what I mean? It's an ill coincidence. You know what I'm saying, but I'll come in But they friends I see them at the Grammys together every way to get what's on Beyonce's on the tribe on the beehive Yeah, no one could fuck with the beehive and that no one's together right that's a joint
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, so it's I mean this kind of a fair you want to see where the beehive is just go say something about Beyonce And oh my god coming that we talking about your mother's mother's mother's mother You want to see where the beehive is, just go say something about Beyonce. Right. And, oh, my God. They coming. They'll be talking about your mother's, mother's, mother's, mother. No, I was looking at it. Like, they're crazy. They're crazy. You know, I was, like, I was looking at, nah. Looking at the front door? Nah, I wasn't looking at the front door.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I was like, all right, let me just subliminally say um the big artists performed at mtv awards this year and this year and they damn dog the remix now yo give me give me give me give me a single i don't think so you're not so fat no more yo give me the single i don't want the album. Come on, Bobby. He said, you're not fat no more, Joe. So anyway, I seen a big artist perform that got like an army, right? But I seen them perform, and their army was there, and it was all like the gay and lesbian community. You know what I'm saying? That was their army, you're saying? Yeah, I couldn't believe that. I'm looking at it, and I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 00:20:30 So all these people who've been telling me to suck their dick and all this wild shit on Instagram, I'm like, yo, these niggas is, you know, it's crazy, my nigga. So, you know, who knows whose crowd or whatever, who's the beehives? Yeah, they're crazy. Like, you don't want no smoke with them. Well, we caught smoke. We caught... With B.I.? No, I caught a lot of smoke when we did that last drink chat about a reggae tone.
Starting point is 00:20:53 We never settled that. That was crazy. Because we addressed it, but it was on our, you know... Because this is the first time Joe's going to be on the Revolt. Revolt, yes. That's crazy. It's crazy. We did that drink chat. It's the first time you're on the revolt.
Starting point is 00:21:06 We got slaves and white people working for us. Let's make some noise while I've got there. Look at that. We got slaves and white folks, God damn it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Revolt, no.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm going to get kicked out, man. Yo. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder
Starting point is 00:21:50 Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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Starting point is 00:22:59 Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th.-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary.
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Starting point is 00:25:38 AT&T, connecting changes everything. You've been on every stage. You've been on Just Audio. Yeah. Then you've been on YouTube with us. changes everything. They put me in the no frills section. So this year, I want to describe your party because when you told me, I said- My party? Listen, let me just tell you- You wasn't going to clear up the reggaeton thing or not? Oh, no, damn. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I totally forgot because we were just clapping hands. Holy moly guacamole. So we had to clear that up. Right. So now what happened exactly? We got on- You said you received slack, right? I mean, we talked about, you know, take we gonna do this again no we have to because
Starting point is 00:26:29 this is briefly just do it so what happened was we talked about daddy and keep coming up in the Bronx right and always telling me you know you are the leader or whatever the case may be and you know I was happy for him and then long story short, I told a story about how when he blew up, he broke my heart. I was so happy for him. Then when I seen him at a reggae tone show
Starting point is 00:26:52 that I was with Nori, the nigga act like he ain't know me. He was like, and I was like, wow, this nigga could be a little bit more loyal. But at the same time, I try to give him street credibility and say, yo, that nigga used to be in the streets Not Jay-z said he also 50 cents any awful even fucking pitbull said he also fat
Starting point is 00:27:11 Joe don't hustle nori so I was trying like not trying to play There's not a lot of people who get cosign that these people I was trying to get a coastline ability I didn't you know they ran with the only thing they can say is like y'all fat Joe's rat and this and that About some nigga in the street 20 years ago. To me, if you a rat, you put niggas in jail. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? So, I guess they ain't understand the podcast and the culture.
Starting point is 00:27:35 You know what I'm saying? All right. All right. No, we're leaving him alone. Elliot Wilson train? Yeah, that's what it used to be. It used to be. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It used to be the Elliot Wilson train. Sorry, Elliot. Listen, listen, listen. We score. That's classic, though. That's okay. It used to be the Elliot Wilson thing. Sorry, Elliot. Listen, listen, listen. We just go off. That's classic, though. That's classic. We're stuck in the same spot. So his fans, who I don't know who the fuck they are, you know, they call me 10,000 Mama
Starting point is 00:27:54 Bichos. It was bad. Yo, they did talk shows based on that whole shit. Maricon Puneta. This nigga was going hard on my shit. But let's be clear So like that if the average artist would will see that and see these kind of like threads or something like that and we'll say You know what? I'll chill. Well, you had to do a movie of a series of or Netflix
Starting point is 00:28:16 She's got to have it part two, correct? And one of the first things I've seen is when you land, you landed in the craziest hood in Puerto Rico. They literally tell you, do not go to this hood, even to other Puerto Ricans. What made you feel that need to go? I didn't need to. It's just that's it. I felt like you needed to. I mean, you felt like that?
Starting point is 00:28:37 I didn't know. I went to the Lions. It was a statement. It was a statement. Like, if somebody want to hurt me, you might as well come to La Bella and hurt me, nigga. Like, I'm in the back part like I'm under la Bella Yeah, but I'm not I'm not in the front smiling in the welcome to la Bella sign. I'm in the rocks. We're fucking And Hector Lavoe shooting the dope in El Cantante movie
Starting point is 00:29:02 Better stay out of there. Cocaina, no. Cocaine, no. Perico PP, no. So you're out there again. So I'm out there and they showing me nothing but love. I don't even know what to tell you. Everywhere I went is nothing but love, Fat Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You know, Puerto Ricans love Fat Joe. I don't know what niggas was thinking. So I'm thinking maybe it was like the Barbs or the B-Bots. Like a media frenzy, too. You know what niggas was thinking right so I'm thinking maybe it was like the barbs or the like a media media frenzy too you know those niggas those niggas you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:29:31 right because but did you expect like any to get any like phone calls or any like did you expect it
Starting point is 00:29:37 or did you expect exactly the love you got you expected that because I remember one time you was even if you wanted to keep it real with you
Starting point is 00:29:44 keep it real please we need this we was super strapped out there you was even. If you wanted to keep it real with you. Keep it real. Please. We need this. We was super strapped out there. What? Like just in case a nigga wanted to play funny. You know what I'm saying? My whole job is always coming home. I used to be in L.A. with the East Coast, West Coast beef.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Right. Super strapped. Like I don't play with these people. I got to get home. I got three kids. I got a wife. I got a family. I'm coming home. So people. I got to get home. I got three kids. I got a wife. I got a family. I'm coming home.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So that means giving it to everybody. We giving it to everybody. We coming home. That's just the bottom line. For the record, there's no beef with like Puerto Rico. No beef with reggaeton. That's my home. You know how.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You know I just wait. So no beef with Puerto Rico. No beef with reggaeton. I love Puerto Rico. I worship Puerto Rico. My grandmother, my grandfather from Puerto Rico. I love, I worship Puerto Rico. My grandmother, my grandfather from Puerto Rico. I'm Puerto Rican and Cuban. You got to understand, man.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Like, I don't even know. Is there beef? Like, there is no beef. Nah, I don't think so. I think it was a misunderstanding. I think it was the media that took it and ran with it. Like, the Latin media. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It did great for us. Yeah, because it took us to that market. It took you in that chapter. Yeah, I think it us to that market. It took you in that chapter? Yeah, I think it helped a little bit. We had Telemundo. We were in Espanol now. Telemundo. It was real.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I was like, holy moly. Let me tell you something, man. I went to a Spanish barbershop randomly. Just walked in. It was like, ah, shit, I'm not sure. I have to get my haircut. I just walked out. I'm going to tell you what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I don't know if I told you this story before. I'm going to tell you what happened to me. I don't know if I told you this story before. I might have. This is famous. You know I used to be scared to fly. So it wasn't until 10 years after that I ever went and did a show. It wasn't until lean back of my career that I went to Puerto Rico to do a show. And when I went to Puerto Rico and did a show, I went on the radio to do my first interview. And do you know what the first question they asked me?
Starting point is 00:31:27 They said, yo, do you think you black? This is the first question Puerto Rico asked me. You know what the first question, when I went to Puerto Rico radio, they asked me? Yeah, yeah. You know what the first question, I'm going to give it right back to you. I was like, amazing to me. You know what the first question they asked me, Fadjo? And I told them, it was no pay, no play.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It wasn't even a question. No pay, no play? Yeah. It was a statement. No pay, no play, papa a statement no pain no play papa okay that's what they said nah stop they're gonna say nah but that was the first question i was i was i was hurt right no i'm saying so i told them you know they said nah because we see you always With the black people And this and that
Starting point is 00:32:05 I had the same problem When I was in jail Know what I'm saying You know the first day This nigga came Up in my cell Cause they In the feds
Starting point is 00:32:13 You can't get commissary So I don't give a fuck Who you is I walked in the feds With 5 G's cash In my pocket But you couldn't get it
Starting point is 00:32:22 For two weeks I don't care if you Burned any bait off Right So there's a line Of niggas giving you two bananas, cereal, a cup. If niggas got love for you, the whole line, say there was 15 people outside my cell, 12 was black, three was Hispanic. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:38 So then some Spanish nigga, the leader of the Puerto Ricans, he comes over. I started calling that nigga Super Boricua, right? So, they didn't come up in my cell. That's a violation, anyway, for him coming up. He got these holes in his face, so you know he's a bad guy. You can tell, right? So, nah, nah. So, he tells me, oh, yeah, fine.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Because for some reason, they can't say fine. Joe, they always just say fine. Oh, yeah, fine. Yeah, yeah, Fa. No T. Fa. No T. Yeah, you Fa, right? So Nick come in, yo. Long story short, he's like, yo, I see all the black dudes with you, and I know you from
Starting point is 00:33:13 New York and the Puerto Ricans from New York, but over here, we stick to our own. And you talking about Miami. And Miami jail, right? So he was the leader of the Puerto Ricans in the Miami jail or whatever. So I'm listening to this nigga. I cannot believe what he said to me right so then he actually calls all the Puerto Ricans his son he's like so me he'll all he did to say so I sit down and I'll say yo papi let me explain son to you the first thing you need to do is call your cousin English or Spanish Bobby epimen course I get to do cosa que tú tienes que hacer es llamar a tu primo de Nueva York a decirte que yo no soy rapero, papá.
Starting point is 00:33:49 That's number one. Let your cousins in New York tell you I'm not a rapper. Right. Number two is I've been running niggas so long that I would have to give you a premio en the West Shore, a Grammy, for me to come in here for four months and you run me. It would be the biggest thing in America. Yo, this is my first 20 minutes in jail. I'm like, this would be like the Grammys. You would be the illest nigga I've ever seen on earth.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Like, guess you. The nigga look at me, he start laughing. He was like, yo, but just know the Boricuas ain't with you in here. I'm like, all right then, my nigga. I came in here dolo anyway. So, you know, that's just always been my, so the same thing with the radio in Puerto Rico. They was like, you know, and I was like, yo, B, I represent Puerto Rico and Africa, Brazil, all over the world. Here's one thing.
Starting point is 00:34:38 At one time, the reggaeton movement was just in Puerto Rico. A little bit of New York and Orlando. That's when they asked me the question. You understand what I'm saying? I'm like, nigga, I'm waving that Puerto Rican flag across the world. And for the record, I helped it. And when you said you discovered Daddy Yankee, we was playing around. If they actually
Starting point is 00:34:57 looked, you said, did you discover Daddy Yankee? And I said, he ain't call me sense. Well, you was the first person to put him on the hit. That was a big part of his career. BET, Hot 97, MTV. I said he ain't call me so you was the first person to put on a Part of his career MTV and now I could look at MTV and he's on there and he's performing as It's a different time yes, so what happens is let's be clear about what's going on. They talked about this 20 years ago. We just ain't believe it, and now it's the time.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yes. Latinos have become the dominant demographic in America. That's right. So when you listen to Hot 97 or you listen to straight black stations, and they playing Reggae Soul, they playing that record. It ain't just because they want to play the record. It's just they got mad Latinos requesting it. Listen, right now it's merging. You like it like that.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Number one hit in America. You got reggae tone and English rapping on the same song. It's the time. One of the first records. It's the time. English and Spanish together. It ain't no ill shit. It's what it is.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It was Oye Mi Cando. God damn it. I'm saying the name. I'm saying the name. Tell you something. what it is was oh yeah me god you was ahead of your time I believe so I believe I was a little um not Jake what was name Jay Alvarez yeah Jammer I said yo you was so ahead of your time bro you know me you was way ahead of your time we was ahead of our time, bro. You know what I mean? You was way ahead of your time. We was ahead of our time. Right. Everybody, see, when we was playing the game... Your watch is definitely
Starting point is 00:36:29 ahead of the time. Hold up. Your watch is smacking niggas in the face right now. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Your watch is ruining our lighting. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Fuck that. Nigga suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? Yo, yo, yo, yo. I know what I'm talking about. What I'm trying to tell you is that we was ahead of our time, the whole hip-hop community. So say Magic Johnson, he broke a record when he got $1 million for playing one year, a million dollars in the Lakers, the biggest shit you ever heard.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Now you got niggas making $250 million. So at that time, we was breaking doors for these niggas to come get them 200,000 250 150 thousand what we was getting 500 at Roomba and doing three shows in one night trying to make 1500 we was opening the doors We was ahead of our time. That's why the climate is the way it is that's why We kept fighting that hauling out Cause we want a piece of that 250
Starting point is 00:37:26 We You owe us restitution This is like 40 acres in a mule Like you know what I mean We paved the door Most of the niggas Who paved the door
Starting point is 00:37:35 When Jay Z say Oh the cold crush Paying dues to the cold crush They ain't get to see this money We seeing this money We still here Doing what we gotta do And um
Starting point is 00:37:46 But we open the door For everybody Don't get that fucked up Ever in your life So um You know This is what we do with You know guests
Starting point is 00:37:55 That been on the show Um Um Alumni Alumni We gonna actually just random I'm the first nigga Having a drink chance
Starting point is 00:38:02 That's right Goddamn Make some fucking noise I just wanna ask you like Random We're gonna actually just random. I'm the first nigga ever in Drink Champs. That's right. Goddamn it. Make some fucking noise. Goddamn it. I just wanna ask you like random stuff that's happening in the hip hop. Right now. First hip hop Puerto Rican parade. You can blow one of these.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I brought hip hop to the Puerto Rican parade. Can you? Goddamn it. Goddamn it. Fat Joe, Big Pump, First Rappers to bring a boxer in the ring. Felix Trinidad against De La Hoya. Against De La Hoya. And, and, and.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You got your own Fat Joe. Your own. You got your own Fat Joe. Your own. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe.
Starting point is 00:38:36 You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe.
Starting point is 00:38:44 You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. You got your own Fat Joe. So, damn, you fucked me up there. I forgot what the fuck I was going to say. No one remembers? You never got to say it, and I kept fucking stopping you. You were going to bring up hip-hop topics. Oh, hip-hop topics. So, right now, Kodak Black, the young homie. He's out, right? Is he out? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Kodak Black just came home, right? Young, energetic dude. I like him. I love what he represents. And there's rumors that he's turning down $100,000 shows. Cuz, what's the reason? I don't know. Huh?
Starting point is 00:39:17 I don't know why. What's the reason? Maybe that's his reason. Maybe he don't know. I don't know. I can tell you a story. Oh, no. They said his reason is because he wants to make music. Yeah. He, no. They said there's reasons because you want to make music.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. You want to make music. Well, maybe you just want to make music. I mean, artists is artists, man. You know, Prince, Michael Jackson, everybody, Kanye. Everybody got their own frame of thinking. Come on from jail. Dudes has turned down $100,000.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Maybe he's not ready to hit the stage. Maybe he got a master plan to make $200,000, $250,000. I remember at one time, Big Pun made the same money that Jay-Z made. And the same thing. Jay-Z turned around and started turning down. And he asked for like $150,000. Nobody ever heard of that. It was you the man if he was getting $40,000, right?
Starting point is 00:40:01 He was like, yo, I'm not moving without $150,000. They came and they gave him the $150,000 right he was like yo I'm not moving without 150,000 they came and they gave him the 150,000 they was like I want 200 and a private plane and they started giving them 200 and a private plane so there's some niggas that got a strategy that looks weird to us but they hold out and they get what they want he figures yo I'm gonna still make $100,000 when I put out this masterpiece album. I'm going to be charging niggas $250,000 and killing them.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I mean, I guess that's his concept. Me, I'm greedy. I'm taking anything. I've never got paid $100,000 to show. I'm throwing it out there. I've had success.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I've had. I've never had $100,000 to show. I ain't going to lie. It was like, I've like, maybe had $80,000. But it was like, I made a had a hundred kids I know lives like it was I I'm like maybe Brad a 80 like but it was like I mean I'm in the show that's the biggest I ever made in the station in the United not Africa I was a Dubai for the sake Africa not that story you told us about it worth it yeah i got paid to get kidnapped right right but you came back so we got back
Starting point is 00:41:10 you know what i mean uh there's a lot i remember one time i call uh flow rider flow rider my brother i love him to death i love what he does with the kids him and um freezy over here with the basketball football tournaments and all that but i I call Flo Rida because I was doing a bar mitzvah. And I was getting like $50,000 to do it. Them niggas was like, yo, we'll give Flo Rida $200,000 if he come to the bar mitzvah. Do you know him? Flo Rida live across the street from the bar mitzvah. Across the street.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And I was like, yo, Flo, they want you to come across the street so they can give you $200,000. He was like, Joe, I love you so much. My price is $400,000. I can't go. I said, but no, Flo Rida, look out your window. I'm waving at you.
Starting point is 00:41:57 He said, no, I can't do it. My price is my price. I was like, Jesus Christ. Like, this nigga must be making tremendous amount of money. Go across the street, two songs, $200,000. is my price I was like Jesus Christ like this thing must be making tremendous amount of money go across the street two songs 200,000 go home and your flip flops I gotta go there because you posted this
Starting point is 00:42:25 on your gram. This was the blackout 15 years ago. Yeah. The other day was the anniversary of the blackout. Now, what happened
Starting point is 00:42:34 on this legend? Because, you know, Drink Champs fans, ironically, they're young people. Some are older, but some people probably don't know
Starting point is 00:42:42 what the fuck we're talking about. So I would like you to understand. Street basketball in New York at this time was the biggest thing like like you see dykeman that's how rucker used to be all the time and um i was in there and that is the new rucker dykeman is the new rucker right so um i was a boo safari by the way i was a champion sorry i was the champion for three years in a row, then Jay-Z decided to get a team and come in the Rucker.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I was really offended. I was in my feelings because I felt like, you know, when I went to the Rucker, it was almost on its way out, and I started bringing all the NBA niggas. So I built the shit back up, right? So his team is playing. Them niggas got LeBron James they got Jamal Crawford they and this is high school LeBron huh it's high school LeBron they had the planet
Starting point is 00:43:33 earth with them and they was winning every game he was bringing Beyonce to all the games at the Rucker Beyonce was sitting in the middle of Harlem niggas was going crazy So we was bringing everybody too Stephon Mulberry, Allen Iverson, everybody Can I ask something? Was it a little bit of like I don't want to say hate It was a little hate It was like yo why is this nigga coming in my shit
Starting point is 00:43:58 This nigga got Beyonce He filthy rich He got everything in the world Why he come to my little park where fat Joe the king to take my shit so we all say it was hey hey okay real pretty cuz at that time it was local for the cake you know we was like really on some bullshit so in any case he's winning he's winning you like Cinderella or some shit, Rocky. They winning, they winning.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Guess what? He wins the playoffs. We win the playoffs. Fat Joe, Jay-Z, they playing. So, we supposed to play the championship on this day and then the blackout, it was so hot or whatever,
Starting point is 00:44:39 the whole New York City had no power. There was over 30,000, 40,000 kids on the street to see the game. The park only hold 1,000 people. The shit looked like a giant stadium in the middle of a hall.
Starting point is 00:44:53 The radio was talking about the game every two seconds. Yo, what's going down? It's crazy. Oh, man. I don't even know. I mean, 15 years ago. What is it? What's 15 years ago? Oh, man. I don't even know. I mean, 15 years ago. What is it? What's 15 years ago? Who's smart, nigga?
Starting point is 00:45:06 2003. 2003. Yeah, 2003. 2003. So, 2003. Joe's math is impeccable. Huh? Your math is impeccable.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Nah, you know, this is a big moment. You got that charm. You got that money. You got that charm. Yeah, you got that different daddy vibe. So, all right, let me just describe the situation. Because for those that don't know. The fucking power.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Jesus Christ My Lord and Savior For the blackout In the summertime in New York City This is one of the biggest Events that's happening It's in the daytime Till the night time
Starting point is 00:45:38 Every NBA player has to come through this For their right of passage But before they're NBA players And even when they're NBA players before they play is to say it was like cool I'm gonna get the contract went out there that they know everybody yeah so Jay Z had LeBron James Vince Carter ah take Tracy McGrady um Jamal Kroger he had a bunch of niggas Shaquille O'NeNeal. So at that game, he had Shaquille O'Neal, LeBron James. It was stupid.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I had Carmelo. This is all right. Nobody ever knew this, right? I had Carmelo Anthony. Young Carmelo who was like. Who's on Roc Nation right now. Who just won the chip to Syracuse, right? So Carmelo Anthony. I had Al Harrington. By the way, Carmelo Anthony is black and Puerto Rican. You know? So Carmelo Anthony,
Starting point is 00:46:25 I had Al Harrington, I had Amari Stoudemire. By the way, Carmelo Anthony's black and Puerto Rican. You know I love Carmelo Anthony. I had Amari Stoudemire. I had Stephon Mulberry when he was the highest paid.
Starting point is 00:46:36 You can only step on Mulberry next. Stephon Mulberry. I had Allen Iverson. I had Mike Bibby. Zach Randolph. Yo, it was disgusting the crew I had. You didn't have a skip to my Lou or future? We had a skip to my Lou.
Starting point is 00:46:50 We had Kareem Reed. We had everybody. But at the end of the day, I had all the niggas, right? So what happened is he had all the niggas. The blackout happened. So what happened was the NBA teams started calling the players for practice. Practice had to start. It was getting late in the summer. Right? So all
Starting point is 00:47:10 his players I knew had to go back to their NBA teams. My niggas was loyal to me and they stood in New York for the replay. There was a second... When was the rematch supposed to happen? The next day? Three days later, two days later. I had my niggas.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Everybody was ready, sitting in the if I had my niggas like everybody was ready sitting in the hotel half the niggas was in the park like I didn't see them I knew that they niggas had to go out of town okay Joe you're going way too fast okay so you're saying the first game was the blackout yeah but I didn't reschedule okay to a next two days later and that's why you said I don't even have to speak about the Rutgers. Because we won, we didn't even have to play. They didn't even show up. Yeah, we was out there for like three hours. They ain't come.
Starting point is 00:47:53 They forfeited. They said Jay-Z had to go to San Chope or something. So I'm like. That was hard. That was a hard excuse. Yeah, that was hard. Had y'all started the game, though? If you had Beyonce and had a yacht in the middle of Central Pay, you would leave too.
Starting point is 00:48:09 But had y'all started the game though before the blackout? No. No. Oh, okay. It was going to... Okay, but it was very... It was like when you look at that history, the documentary... God.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It was a God's plan. Before the blackout, it looked like it was tension. Big tense Okay On my behalf Okay Look I was a piece of shit Right
Starting point is 00:48:29 I ain't gonna lie to you I was a bad guy Troublemaker I was looking for bullshit Every second of the day You know this was my life at one point Before rap And
Starting point is 00:48:41 My first Eight years of rap I was looking to fuck anybody up I'm saying and you know it probably would have been real tense in that game man like really God did us the biggest favor you ever seen in life not letting the game happen you know I'm saying it was it would have took one call it would have took one yo they jerk us know, for niggas to run on the court and start the bullshit. But when you rescheduled, just for, you know, when you rescheduled, did they even show up? Not me, me rescheduled.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Okay. No, OG Juan showed up and like two of their players, John Strick and another player. I did not see any other players out there. Stephon Marbury was in the middle of the court. Zach Randles out there step on Mulberry's in the middle of the court Zach Randolph all my niggas was in Zach Randolph everybody was in the court all Jermaine O'Neal was dead like yeah yeah that's all bully player so but he has to kill O'Neal so yes the kills are beat to be clear all there's a good probability they would have won if that first game went down and they had Shaquille on there.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Nobody can stop Shaquille. Shaquille takes seven niggas on him. You know, I was mad. I want to break Shaquille's legs, man. You wanted to break his legs then? I called him. I told Shaq I'm going to break his legs. No, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I need to understand this, Shaq. You call Shaq. Now, listen, I seen Shaq the other day. I love Shaquille O'Neal. He's the biggest nigga you ever seen in your life. You know what he did? The nigga put his hand on me. I was like, you don't put your hand on my head.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Because, like, you're just too small to this nigga. No, Shaq the biggest nigga on earth. And I love him and everything, but that's how much I was in my feelings at that time. You know? So you called... How did this phone call happen? Because somebody, Mr. Lee. Help him, this guy.
Starting point is 00:50:32 You called him just out the blue? Well, I did it on the radio. Shaq was up on the radio talking. That blackout, the only thing that worked was the radio. So he was up there, Steve Stout, OG Juan, Shaq. He's talking's talking about yo i'm a do fat joe i heard fat joe bringing y'all me i was like yo shack man i'm gonna break your legs you walk
Starting point is 00:50:53 in that park you know i'm saying but i was on some bullshit and i love shaquille o'neal worship him it's just i was i was a bad guy at one time. That's it. It's the truth. Make some noise for the growth. Make some noise for the growth. So if the game, the second game would have happened, when you won by forfeit, right? Because you said you didn't have to play it. If Shaquille O'Neal wasn't with them,
Starting point is 00:51:23 they wouldn't have won, right? We would have won the second game. You know what I mean? Because all my players was there. I had Allen Iverson and Steph Marbury in the backcourt with Mike Bibby. Mike Bibby was the all-star. I had the whole East Coast all-star team
Starting point is 00:51:40 ready to play. If you look up that year, every nigga I'm telling you is the starters of the East Coast All-Star team was playing in Harlem at that park. It was out of control what we was about to do out there. You know what I'm saying? But Shaquille O'Neal was the
Starting point is 00:51:55 most dominant player of this era. Now, Marbury still has not let it go, according to your Instagram. Yes. According to your Instagram. You. According to your Instagram. Like you posted this and you said this heartfelt story. I said I love Jay-Z. You said.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I love OG more than this. They brought us together. Right. The blackout brought us together 15 years ago. Now we got something to talk about. We laugh about it. And now we all business partners. And we do great with each other.
Starting point is 00:52:24 We love each other so you know i'll put that up the nigga marbury went bad you know what i'm saying what did he say he was gonna i can't say what he said i don't want to say what he said but he went bad i had to actually and i love stephon marbury right i love him to death i had to delete his, what he said because he went too bad. So, you know, Jay-Z said
Starting point is 00:52:48 you could be like Marbury at the light and you could lose your life. I'm thinking this is the game. No. Think about Marbury
Starting point is 00:52:56 at the light. Not only that, Sebastian Telfair was Marbury's little nephew. That's his cousin, right? His little cousin.
Starting point is 00:53:04 We watched him grow up. I used to eat ghetto fucking chicken wings, fried rice and chicken wings with this little nigga. This nigga was playing for Jay-Z when he was the hottest young nigga coming out of high school in the city. So he was playing for them. So Steph was mad.
Starting point is 00:53:20 His little nephew, his little cousin was, he was going to kill that nigga. Steph was going to drop 50 points on that little nigga. They were taking him out in one quarter. But we was offended. We watched the little nigga grow up. He went and played for, at the time, the Ops. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:37 So it was a lot of built-in anger. But 15 years later, and Stephon Mulberry is such a legend. He got statues in China. He runs a billion-dollar company out there and all that. He didn't have to go that bad on Instagram, man. Yeah, he went bad. He went dead. I love Steph, though.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So, Joe, let me just ask you, because you balance this kind of deal. You're probably the only person that, what, God rule, friend? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Ranella.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Starting point is 00:58:26 changes everything. I went to turmoil with 50, and you're probably the only other person that can be cool with both of them, like the way you're cool with both of them. Or is that the truth? I don't know if I'm cool with both of them. I don't know if they
Starting point is 00:58:44 if they, you know, I don't know if they both mad. You know what I'm saying? Because I heard a rumor you're supposed to bring them both out on Summer Jam. I try to bring them both out on Summer Jam. That would have been crazy. I both heard fuck my mother. You know what I'm saying? Wait, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:56 What? Wait, stop. Yeah, niggas was like, yo, fuck you. Your mother's a lesbian. No, no. We're not doing it. You know? No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I didn't mean it like that. I mean it in like a bad, like they went bad. So hold on, what was your plan, Bad Joe? Let me just think of it. I was going to bring out Ja Rule at 50 Cent. So you were singing at the same time? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:17 But what record is this going to perform? Whatever record. They can do whatever. The remix. The remix. My shit was your fifth. Relax. Jive relax.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Let's do it for hip hop. And not only I got cursed out, but I got super cursed out. Because I didn't realize that Irv Gotti is like, he really got a problem with that situation. So Irv don't bother nobody. He do his Hollywood thing. But he called me and called me all type of shit. And I was just like, he was like, hey, you know who we are? No, I call them both.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yo, John, check this out. I'm doing Summer Jam. I'm headlining. I want you to come out with me and rap. And I'm bringing 50 Cent out. Yo, 50, check this out. I'm headlining. I really need you to come out with me.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Do your blood, your gangsta, everything. And guess what? I got Tyrone with us and we gonna come out together. Okay. And I heard fuck my mother
Starting point is 01:00:13 everything, lesbian, this, this, that. Both sides? Both sides? Yeah, everybody. But yo, if this would've happened,
Starting point is 01:00:19 if this would've, that would've been. I'm born again Christian. No, I'm telling you. You say you're born again Christian? I'm just a beautiful person. I want everybody to get along. That would have been the hell, though.
Starting point is 01:00:29 That would have been the hell. That would have been the hell. I suppose this would have happened, right? I suppose you were called 50. Nobody would have fought. He would have said yes. Nobody would have fought. I suppose you were called Ja.
Starting point is 01:00:37 But what records would you have brought them out together? It don't matter. They just would have bought it. It would have mattered. With Steph upon me me blood on my eye and then john would have came out and did his little new york clap back whatever i was gonna we was just gonna go up there john muller did clap back the kennedy did you just say clap back joe that was terrible you can't say clap back this is directly going at 56 we can't not do that many
Starting point is 01:01:01 men is going to do no work many men might be the same as that. Same shit. Right. They've been dissing each other forever. They got to do new shit. They got to do candy shopping. What you got to understand is I argue I had beef with 50 Cent for seven, eight years. This shit is whack.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Dissing each other, dissing each other. Then everybody want to diss each other more and then this. Then you know it's going down when you see each other. know what i'm saying all that is like played out to me and i love and worship jaru and irv you know what i mean and i know they gotta feel a certain way because i'm cool like they they both told me we cringe when you see we see you in pictures with 50 cent you're my friend you're my friend and i am their friend like i gotta show the seventh in vegas and i'm flying back to new york to go to irv's mom's 80th birthday like these are really my friends i fuck with ashante talk to every other day like they're my brothers but i'm just not with the smoke i'm not with it it
Starting point is 01:02:06 don't benefit nothing what me beefing with 50 cent and him beefing with me don't benefit nothing peace feels so much better man could we bring you and cuban link together no you couldn't but i'm glad i told you last time he's in church right so if he's really in church, I salute him because I fear God. You know what I'm saying? Right. And that's about it. With like 50 Cent and all of them, I told you, I don't want to go, I mean, Cuban Lane, it was bad, man. Yo, when you take people, and first of all, we was all born alone.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Let's just go to this concept. Right. All y'all niggas in here was born butt naked alone. Y'all ain't even know each other. Right? concept right all y'all niggas in here was born butt naked alone y'all ain't even know each other right so now we all grew up dirt poor dirt poor welfare projects wiping my ass with toilet paper no ac sleeping on the floor because it's colder you can't tell me about being poor nigga i don't ate the kitchen sink rice with this with that like I've been broke like I don't have pictures of when I was a little kid because we didn't afford a camera that's how broke fat Joe was you understand what I'm saying so now I get an opportunity with God bless me and put me in a
Starting point is 01:03:16 position to help somebody else and make somebody else a millionaire make them another a star make them a star buy these niggas homes before I owned a home. I still lived in an apartment when I bought the nigga a home. And for them niggas to do all that and try to destroy me. See, so if you look at my Instagram on my birthday, all the comments were saying, yo, these niggas do everything at this nigga. Everything at this nigga Everything at this nigga His best friend's wife was going bad Saying you know
Starting point is 01:03:49 He robbed Like they try to destroy me in every way 50 Cent was the big bad wolf Nigga was 30 platinum Smashing everybody I'm the only nigga kept coming back at that nigga I know the beef You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:04:04 So when I see the opportunity and how generous and the money and everything I did for these people, for them to try to just cut my legs, you know what I'm saying? It's one thing to go in a football game, watch a football game and see a nigga get hit hard in a football game. But you ever see nigga dive at the nigga's knees? You know he's trying to break his knee. Right, right, right. He's trying to cut his whole life. They also hurt him, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:29 They trying to cut his whole life. Y'all don't understand. I had albums coming out, hits. Make it rain on them hoes. And the day my album come out, when you normally go to Hot 97, they was on BLS talking about, yo, we homeless. This nigger shitting on us. Yo, don't buy his shit.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Fuck this nigger. This, this, this. They This nigga shitting on us. Yo, don't buy his shit. Fuck this nigga. This, this, this. They really was doing this to me. I don't understand. If there's a such thing as trolls, they was trolling. And me, now let's say Fat Joe. As a man, Joseph Cartagena, hip-hop fan. If I was a fan of Big Pun and Fat Joe being the Latino superpowers.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And them being brothers And the wife of Big Pun Said that Fat Joe's a piece of shit And he's robbing us of this I would never like Fat Joe In my fucking life Me being Joseph Cartagena The hip hop fan
Starting point is 01:05:17 I'd have been Fuck that nigga Fuck him So you understand What I had to go through How I had to walk How I needed people like you And other people to say, no, he's a great guy. He's got phenomenal gifts to the community, open businesses, computers to the school,
Starting point is 01:05:33 sent plays to Puerto Rico. The man gives everything. You understand? And people try to destroy me on another level. Like, I don't think y'all understand that. Because I understand. Because I'm like, yo, if I was an outsider sitting there, I'd be like, yo don't think y'all understand that. Because I understand. Because I'm like, yo, if I was an outsider sitting in, I'd be like, yo, this nigga's a scumbag.
Starting point is 01:05:49 So I had to convince the people, yo, that ain't what it is, nigga. Like, it's incredible, man. It was a big fight. It was a big fight. You know, I had to overcome. You know what I'm saying? And it still bothers me. Nah, nah, that's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Fuck that, man. And you're still here, man.. You still here man. You still here or this girl now? We still motive we got the movie coming out move on the Kevin Hart. You're nice. Oh nice 26 that's a great noise for that We got she's gotta have it we just wrapped up she's got a have it. We just wrapped up. She's got to have it. Season two with Spike Lee. Let me just tell you. Let me just tell you, right? So, you know, I was actually. My beard is right. I was actually.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Actually, my flight was supposed to be for tomorrow. For Angie's Barbecue. So, we're going to go to Angie's Barbecue. And then go to your party. What happened was. We fell back on the Revolt episode. So to we got to record recording you and we caught a jar rule tomorrow oh wow so um so I'm just flying up for your party but let me just tell you you know Joe is my brother I love this guy say he's like you gotta
Starting point is 01:07:01 come to my party I'm like I cool they should my wife blocked out the dates do whatever this is the way you want to sit next to Spike Lee or Mary J Blige cuz the nigga noriaki like he was doing me the biggest favor I said wait a minute Nori I don't do this for just anybody. Oh, it's worth it. Oh, you want me to win? I said, wait a minute, Nori. Thank you for, I worship you. Do you want to sit next to Spike Lee or Mary Jane Cox? You want Tiffany and Spike? Or you want that, like, come on.
Starting point is 01:07:59 You got to be there. He flossed on me. I had to. Then we give you more than that. The other part that he said, and that happened. You know, I'm proud of you, my brother. Let me tell you something. You know what he said on my birthday?
Starting point is 01:08:11 He said, man, I be thinking you're my real brother for my mother. Yeah. That's how we are. And you know, we've been friends for what, 20 years? Yeah, you know, sometimes, you know how people get traded? We still look young. We look amazing. You know how you get traded for going to baseball? We still look young, we look amazing, but we've been friends 20 years.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Sometimes I feel like you should trade some family members. There's a couple of cousins. I'm like, I'm not sure. Some cousins is fuck niggas. Some niggas is fuck niggas in our family.
Starting point is 01:08:38 What is it, the race trade? The race trade. Some niggas is fuck niggas. Some niggas got a trade. We got a race trade. Yo, my nigga, we got some... The black congregation take the Latino congregation. Yo, we got fuck niggas just fuck niggas. Some niggas got a trade. We got to be in the race trade. Yo, my nigga, we got some... The black congregation
Starting point is 01:08:45 take the Latino congregation. Yo, we got fuck niggas in our family. And some niggas, you can't believe it. Sometimes I sit there and I look at these niggas. None of us,
Starting point is 01:08:54 all of us, we all have that. Everyone has that. Let me tell you something. I worship my son. Right? Love him to kingdom come.
Starting point is 01:09:04 He's my boy, man. But sometimes I be sitting there with this nigga, he be doing some questionable shit. To where I'm looking, no, I'm just meaning like, shit, I ain't with. So I be sitting there looking at this nigga, I be like, yo, you believe this nigga? What, like tight jeans or something?
Starting point is 01:09:19 No, like, not tight jeans. He can wear tight jeans. Like this morning, my wife had to go to the airport. We need a nigga to take her Cause my other car's in the shop Yo you have something to do How you gonna have something to do My nigga When she gotta go to the
Starting point is 01:09:34 Are you fucking serious my nigga Like I'm sitting And I love my son Everything's for my family I work hard for my family But what kind of fucking They lucky I wasn't up this morning man and then he took the next thing out to new york too i was like oh my god i would kill this but
Starting point is 01:09:51 it's some up some shit it really is like you like what like are you serious like you blessed you blessed to raise for your children brother you spoil you man and then i don't know how because we ain't have nothing so we try to give our kids everything so we don't understand how and this ain't just my problem it's the problem of anybody who feels like yo they ain't have nothing they taking care of their kids when they grow up they almost think like they the fresh prince of bel-air i'll tell a nigga all the time we are not sean puffy combs this money run out his dog you gotta bend you rollie dog you looking all right you dip fresh you're a mury all the time but chill you know because they got some new i don't know
Starting point is 01:10:39 if you know that dr dre's son puff's son a bunch of them niggas. Now they taking privates, the kids. Oh, no. No, it's a new society of the sons. They taking private planes. These is 40,000, 30,000. So he's showing me, yo, Dr. Dre's son, my man. Yo, Puffy's son, they jumping out the, I'm like, yo, my nigga, hold on. Yo, this is real shit, though.
Starting point is 01:11:04 This not going down. Like, just know, I don't take private planes unless we got to take one. I'm not doing that no more. I did that. I spent tons of millions of dollars on that shit.
Starting point is 01:11:14 We not doing that shit. Right. So I got to, you know, this is shit, you know. These niggas is for you, man. God bless them. They beautiful. We love them,
Starting point is 01:11:22 but, like, it's a problem. This makes a noise for last year on my birthday On the hurricane hit fat Joe came to me and my birthday dinner and said nori. We're like, yo, no, it's a hurricane. No, no, no, I'm going to tell you the worst shit. Yeah, but did you not see Matt Jones? No, I'm going to tell you the worst shit. We're going to die. He said, yo, I rented the biggest suite with my wife. It's St. Regis. That's the St. Regis right on the beach.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I'm like, nigga, you're dying, nigga. You're dying. He was like, no, Joe. I'm in the sun. It's the light. Yo, my God. But you know what was fucked up? Was I really trying to stick it out.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Like, I really went the next day. It was the whole shit with Jim Jones, right? No, that came later. But I'm saying, I really tried to stick it out. I really stood there. I checked in on a hotel. I said, Mr. Santana, you're good. We almost fucked up the plane.
Starting point is 01:12:15 They evacuated you guys. Not a plane. They evacuated this thing. He came up. He said, Joe, you still got that plane? I'm like, yo, my nigga. I was just begging you. Are you on drugs? Let's get the fuck out of here. I took the canary, nigga. You still got that
Starting point is 01:12:32 Drugs get the fuck out of here. I took the canary nigga. We took the dog the bird Was Was touching the button like he never seen no shit. He was like, shit going. Oh, so I see. Yeah. Nigga, we sasa that fucking plane out. And his mother-in-law, she got her way on the plane, too. She dropped him off, and she was like.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Let's go. And his wife was like, can my mama come? I was like, yeah, let's yeah, she was a sasa player. Narcos, big old Narcos, my dog. Narcos. Narcos, my dog. Narcos was in his pussy truck on that plane, too. And had the coolest pilots, too, by the way.
Starting point is 01:13:19 The what? The coolest pilots. Coolest pilots. Oh, no, I was just glad to get out of here, B, because I've been to a couple of hurricanes here. Like Hurricane Katrina, I was here. I was here. The shit sound like a nigga is just, you know how they do the motorcycle? Like it ain't going nowhere, but it's just doing the smoke.
Starting point is 01:13:42 That's how your windows, if you never did one Yo, no, you didn't want yo your window sound like a nigga doing that on the motor And oh yeah me can't that was shot when a hurricane was approaching the way that the video looks Gil green He hooked that up in digital Say about like living in Miami was like you become an automatic weatherman. Yeah. Like yo, like today,
Starting point is 01:14:08 like me and Sonny is on my balcony and we looking like yo like cool, look it's about the rain. I literally said two minutes we gotta wrap everything up
Starting point is 01:14:17 and in two minutes the rain came, we stood there, then I could look at the shit and tell you when the rain is coming. Like everybody that lives in Miami is a fucking weather and fucking especially
Starting point is 01:14:26 let me tell you one thing the weather girls in Miami the bitches on TV all today humidity this I'm like shit Them bitches bad as fuck! The weather bitches! Yo, sonny, the weather bitches is A-OK! Yo, I'm like, holy shit! You don't want to? You got to stop, you know? What's going on in? Yo! What's going on in Boca Raton, my man?
Starting point is 01:14:56 Where do you from? Point that man at you in the leg! The weather bitches is bad, nigga! I'm like, yo, where is these weather bitches, man? Jesus! Nah, yo. You got these weather bitches, man? Jesus. Nah, yo. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you what.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Yo, listen. Man, man, man, man. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I would never build a house again in Miami. Why? You built one from scratch? Oh, I built one from scratch. The plantation joint? Plantation from scratch. Yo, I built one from scratch. The plantation joint?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Plantation from scratch. Yo, my nigga, let me tell you something. In New York, I done bought cribs, put construction paper on the window, and niggas is working 24 hours a day. I built my house in Miami, niggas be like, I go over there, nobody's working. They be like, yo, what's up?
Starting point is 01:15:42 Papa, it's raining. Yo, my nigga, it's a fucking drizzle a drizzle how do you get the out here work almost killed these so many times like miami different man how long it took him to build what maybe two years or something these niggas was taking a time but everything everything was excuse yo it's raining it's too hot for the roof to this and I'm like yo these niggas got excuses I can't do it I'm like I'm like I like to pay like I like to just pay you and get it done leave me alone let's do it I don't like the bullshit the back of you you know I mean times I went up there I
Starting point is 01:16:28 was about to smash the niggas building when you move to the house in plantation where you man years ago man first I had to land and then we built the crib over there from scrapes most beautiful crib in the world but I loved it with the big T s in front of the bank T s in big T.S. in the front. And then, you know, yeah, we had the stupid crib. And then it's just the animals in the night. You swear you live by Metro Zoo and shit. Yo, I swear. I swear, yo, my wife used to call me.
Starting point is 01:16:56 She used to be like, yo, what the fuck? I'm like, yo, what's wrong? Sounds like two apes is fucking. Yo, my nigga, I'm going to tell you one thing i had yo the sounds yo yo listen to me yo i used to say yo a hurricane it's gonna be tigers and zebras running out here because all these niggas got farms and they hear you hear shit animals my nigga no but let me just say something sorry to cut you off one thing about miami is if you're ever just looking around there's always like a bird that flies around and you just like this is worth 70 million dollars and he's just flying around like you haven't seen like like pet ventura i used to try to shoot him down and settle it was in miami
Starting point is 01:17:44 like i grew up my whole time watching that shit. And I kid you not, these birds that come by my balcony. And I'll be like, yo, I bet you if a nigga catch this nigga, this nigga's $17,000. Yeah, beautiful parents. All kinds of crazy shit. I'm just saying, like, expensive shit. You see peacocks running around and shit. You know what happens to these niggas having that peck?
Starting point is 01:18:03 The shit. The animal. No, in the cocaine cowboy days, these dudes had these tigers and monkeys and all kinds of crazy shit. Let me tell you something. There used to be some raccoons in my crib. It's a little different. Yo, my nigga, I was so strapped, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I was so strapped. I used to watch these niggas. You had people with the raccoons? I used to watch these niggas through the window, looking at these niggas. I'm like, yo, I'm going to kill these niggas. You had beef with the raccoons? I used to watch these niggas through the window looking at these niggas. I'm like, yo, I'm going to kill these niggas, man. Word to mother, I'm going to kill these niggas. Niggas come through, fuck your garbage up. These niggas is big.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And they ain't scared. You kick the window, the door, the niggas is looking at you like, yeah. They'll come at you. They'll come at you. I'm telling you, my nigga, I had beef with the raccoons, everybody. I had to get out of there. I thought I wanted quiet life. I went out there, my nigga, I had beef with the raccoons, everybody. I had to get out of there. I thought I wanted quiet life. I went out there, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I was like, yo, these niggas, these niggas trying to die over here or something. Boy, you moved out of Florida now? No, I moved into Miami. Miami, man. Oh, you even went to the building. We had the sirens. No, I got a crib on the water. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:19:02 I'm in the island. All right. Oh, in the island. No water. I'm in the island. Oh, in the island. No, we in the island. In Jersey, I used to have beef with the geese. You know the geese? I don't like none of these people. I don't like none of them.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Because they'll come at you like... Yeah, they'll come at you. They do that in Jersey. You have beef with the geese. And then you kill one of the niggas and you in trouble. That's a federal crime. You might as well. That's like a hate crime.
Starting point is 01:19:30 No, for real. No, it is. You hit one of them niggas, you done. So what has been like the biggest difference from working with Roc Nation from like any other management company you ever had? Shout out to Desiree. It's her birthday today. Oh, God bless you, Desiree. I bought bought her the biggest flowers it's bigger than this table it was the most she was like yo you something else man it was the abundance of fly it was the biggest shit
Starting point is 01:19:55 you ever see thousands of dollars on these flowers big shit because she saved my life and she structured me right you know a lot of times the way we thought, you did this, a lot of times the way we work, we thought we was doing it right, but they call that shit homeboy management and all that. So you need people.
Starting point is 01:20:13 So what you got, the difference is for all you artists, I know you artists be watching these young boys. Listen, the difference of just having your homeboy managing you that's supposedly smart and somebody who's already in power is there's people trying to get to you that don't know your homeboy.
Starting point is 01:20:33 It's Colgate. It's Corona Beer. It's McDonald's. McDonald's. And they're trying to throw you this check, but they don't know your man or they don't want to deal with your man so the best thing was that that opened so many doors for me where i was able to do business with so many different people i normally couldn't have because i was 20 years in the game and wasn't doing these deals and now i'm over here doing these deals you know what i'm saying so they opened a lot of doors for me and um it's it's really about the artists up there to me of course course, you got to work your end of the bargain.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And they got to work. You got to be popping for anybody to make a dollar off of anything. If you ain't popping, like Chris Lighty, rest in peace, he was the king. But once you was popping, once you lit, then he go wipe everybody and get the bread for you. So you got to understand, if you not lit, you're not moving if you're not in demand that you can't really complain that niggas cuz they can't do nothing for you All right, but once you let them niggas can go get that bag. We call that low-hanging fruit that shit right there You know I'm saying That was hard so's always facts that was all
Starting point is 01:22:02 somebody bothered my that over here he's looking at me you ain't see his face. That nigga looking disgusting. Did we give you a pair of drink champs? Never did. I'm missing the chain. What's your size, Joe? What's your size? Your shoe size. I'm size 12, bro. Oh, we got it, we got it, we got it.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Let's bring it on the table, people. Can you grab a size 12 for me, Diego? And I'm the Grod, Diego. Oh, wait, we don't have size 12. We don't have to talk to me, Diego. And I'm the guy, Diego. Oh, no, wait. We don't have sex. We don't? I don't think so. Mr. Lee. Yeah, I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I don't know if this happens every time. All right. But Twins always on my episode. That's right. Twins always on my episode. You know what I'm saying? All right. You know what I'm saying? So why are the people telling you?
Starting point is 01:22:44 No, yeah, because, you know, like, people say... Joe, turn your mic for me, please. People say, you know, like, my friend is Norvega, and I'm in the lifestyle, I'm with the stars, cool. But niggas be like, oh, put me on, put me on. Nigga, you need to put you on. Like, you have to put in the work yourself. Like, labels have to look for you.
Starting point is 01:23:03 You don't go look for a label, my man. You know what I mean? Like, people think, like, oh, put me on. for you. You don't go look for a label, my man. You know what I mean? Like, people think like, oh, put me on. What you mean put you on? What,
Starting point is 01:23:09 you want me to tell Norita to roll bluff? You want to be his blunt roller? What, you want to show him your mixtapes that has 300 views?
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like, no. Like, people don't want to put in the work. They want to stay I'm going to tell you the worst niggas.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Niggas that are actually killers that decide to rap Like they suck at really actually kill us and they don't works niggas you ever heard in your life You know the worst Box with them telling them they did the greatest about me, their lyrics is real because they've done it. You know how many killers I have to be like, yo, my man, what's up? Nah, nah, they keep on, yo, yo, yo, I can't help you. Yo, so what's up?
Starting point is 01:23:52 What you mean you can't, yo, suck my dick? What's up then already? Like, we got to put my life in danger. And I know these niggas is killers, but they're the worst rappers I have ever heard in my life. There's nothing we can do for you And they've been through their life for real Mr. Lee, congratulations man Happy birthday brother
Starting point is 01:24:11 I know you like 900 In real life you like 900 Cause you've been 40 since I was 20 I got him under pressure in Kendall. Not highly, right? Highly. He going to Kendall, too. I feel like rappers that have more talent get outworked by the ones that have a little bit less talent.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And they make it. I don't think that's necessarily no I think it's okay good point I see that I say cases in a way in a way I feel like cuz there's niggas that I know in my hood that makes crap it's like you putting out a song nobody's waiting for even less than the song nobody's waiting for your music Oh roll drop back to back all right the point is that the record industry is the same corny nigga same corny system so what they do they're not signing niggas they're not a and r and niggas they're not breaking niggas what they doing is they looking at the charts
Starting point is 01:25:20 and they look and they say oh shit there's a little nigga named Twin that Power 96 is playing them 150 times. 99 Jams is playing them 100 times a week. Or the streams. No, no, or the streams. And they're coming over here. Then they go and they sign you because you already lit. The proof is in the pudding that you're going to spread around the country. But the problem I got with that
Starting point is 01:25:45 Right Is after you come from nothing And you making yourself Telling your life story Or putting your heart into music A nigga come and stand next to you When you get your plaque Or your award
Starting point is 01:25:57 Like they did something Like they some executive Some ill nigga we got to respect Some nigga we got to look up to Like they really did something for the culture No nigga You looked at the chart You seen who was hot in fucking Biloxi
Starting point is 01:26:10 Or Mississippi Or Idaho nigga And you went over there and you signed a nigga The nigga was going to blow anyway Independently He was streaming off the hook So you go over there and now you looking like you a superhero Like you did something
Starting point is 01:26:24 You ain't really A&R break any artists That's what you did So you go over there and now you're looking like you're a superhero like you did something. You ain't really A&R break any artist. That's what you did. So all artists out there just know you got to be lit first wherever you're from. If you're from North Carolina, get lit there.
Starting point is 01:26:35 If you're from fucking Georgia, get lit there and it's going to spread out. Simple as that. I saw something that... And it's so fucked up. It's so fucked up. You don't even have to be lit in your own town.
Starting point is 01:26:46 You SoundCloud rappers. No, most of these guys ain't lit in their own town. They're not popping anytime. But look, because I know you got to go. But, you know, I've always been proud of you. But recently I've been able to be proud of you every single day. Because I wake up every morning to my favorite sports show in the world. First Take.
Starting point is 01:27:08 It's First Take. Yeah. And every day on First Take, they're promoting you September 3rd. That you're going to perform. We're going to rip that shit down. Down, Yande. I'm going to be in Paris. You're going to be in Paris, but you can watch it.
Starting point is 01:27:20 I'm going to be in that plane. I'm going to be in that plane. It's going to be ugly out there. We're going to welcome them to New York. It's an honor to do First Take because that's everybody's favorite show.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Everybody. And it's going to be crazy, man. I got some surprises coming out with me. You know what I'm saying? And we're going to go out there and rip it down and put on a good show for them.
Starting point is 01:27:41 It's an honor for me. They could have picked anybody. That's everybody's favorite show. Snoop Dogg would have did it. You would have did it. Anybody would have did it. You know what I'm saying them. It's an honor for me. They could have picked anybody. That's everybody's favorite show. Snoop Dogg would have did it. You would have did it. Anybody would have did it. You know what I'm saying? So it's an honor they asked for a job.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Because there's a lot of people who claim they're the king of New York. There's a lot of people. And listen, there could be 15 kings in New York. There could be 15 kings in New York. But when ESPN first take a guy named Stephen a Smith was from Hollis Queens max Kellerman Molly and they hand-picked my friend fat Joe you can be modest but I'm gonna say that's clearly saying this is the. If not the king, at least one of the kings. He's one of them kings.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah, he's one of them. Of New York. Because in this case, it's not chess. It is checkers. And on checkers, you can have more than one king. I'm one of the kings in New York. No question. That's with New York.
Starting point is 01:28:41 No, no, that's a fact. I'm one of the kings in New York. You know that. And, you know, it's an honor, man. It's an honor. There's no way to explain it to you. It's an honor. We worked real hard for that, but, you know, I'm just glad they picked me, and I'm going
Starting point is 01:28:58 to make them happy, and we're going to make a movie out there. You know, that's the bottom line. Goddamn it. Thank you, man. Man, Pat Jo for fucking doing a good man. Fat Joe for fucking joining us. Big time. I'm playing my hotel is booked. I'm going out there just for you for your birthday.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Happy birthday. Now, let me ask you a question. Do you want to sit next to Spike, Mary J., or Stephen A. Smith, Molly, and Max Killerman? Do you want to sit in their section? Listen, let me tell you something. Yeah. I'll sit next to Chi Chi Get the Yayo, as long as you're okay.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Oh, we gotta find Chi Chi now. As long as you're okay, you're having a good time, I'm there to celebrate your name. Hey yo, Primo don't be hanging out with Chi Chi Get the Yayo. Man, he gonna be in B. Man, he gonna be in B. Street Chef, check us out next week.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I don't know this little shit. I'm not going to have any bones. Let's do it. Come on. We're going to take a picture in the drop. We've got to do a drop real quick. I can't say anything. Appreciate it.
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