Drink Champs - Episode 139 w/ Ja Rule

Episode Date: September 21, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episodes the guys drink it up with Ja Rule. The guys cover a lot of topics from Fat Joe trying to being 50 Cent and him out on stage together, to JLO,... to topics ranging from before Def Jam up until now! Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 It's your boy N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ EFN. And it's Drink Champs' motherfucking happy hour. Make some noise! And right now, joining us, we have a person that I've witnessed come into the game.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I witnessed meeting him through Leo Cones. Leo Cones brung him to a video shoot to a big pun video shoot. It's the first time I ever met him. Leo actually brung him to me. And he had a bandana on and he was smoking weed in the car service
Starting point is 00:03:46 on his first time I seen a nigga smoke weed in the car service. This man has went from Batman to one of the biggest people on the fucking planet.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I lived on the same block as him. He had countless number ones. When your girl was emotional it was because of him. He continuously stayed in your face.
Starting point is 00:04:06 He smiled. He did what he fucking had to do. He stood tall and he's still in this motherfucking game. Just ripped down the VMAs. His face was so close to J-Lo's ass. I couldn't believe it. And his wife was in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I didn't know how he pulled it off. I didn't know. I'm talking about his wife. I didn't know. The husband and his wife. And his wife. It was awkward for me. But I was was like damn, baby. If there's one person you get a chance with let me smell j-lo's ass So if you don't know what I'm talking about a dream chance alumni to Second guess I don't remember if he came late or Jada J kids came late, but that's how we combine them together But in case you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I'm talking about my motherfucking friend, my motherfucking legend,
Starting point is 00:04:48 the motherfucking longevity god, motherfucking Ja Rule's in the building. Yeah! Yeah, you got to, you got to. Now listen, Ja, I see this is your long club. I'm not going to lie, your bracelet game is very dangerous. Oh, thank you. I'm going to be honest. I'm not going to lie. Your bracelet game is very dangerous. Oh, thank you. I'm going to be honest. It's not funny, man.
Starting point is 00:05:07 No, no, no. That's expensive bracelet game right there. I'm just telling you. Your eye for accessories is extraordinary, bro. I get the books. I get the books. Every time I purchase an item, they send me the books, and I just be looking. So now I know.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because one time I met a dude with a presidential Rolex with one diamond on it, and I thought it was wacky. And I came back home, and I was like, that's a masterpiece. It was 150, so now I just know that. But you're very expensive. John, you still out here doing what the fuck you got to do. I'm enjoying life, man.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's it. I work hard. I'm humble. You know what I mean? I'm just enjoying life. You know me, you know me. Yes, I know you, and I love you, too, as well, man. I love you, too, man, brother.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You know what I'm saying? So let's take it from the beginning Because um in the beginning when we first saw earth Gotti we saw him with Mike Geronimo Thanks, how did it go from earth being the guy to put on Mike Geronimo to earth? Leaning towards cash money clear. I want to take it from there before we go into Ja Rule solo. Well, I mean. Because you guys was the first cash money. I was going to bring that vinyl too.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I had the vinyl. You know, I got it. You know, Irv and Mike had a special relationship. When we say Mike, you're talking about Mike Giamatti. And that's Blunt Recordings. Was that all under Blunt Recordings? TBT. What's that?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Steve Gottlieb? Steve Gottlieb. Steve Gottlieb. For no reason. Steve Gottlieb. Steve Gottlieb. You Gottlieb. For no reason. Steve Gottlieb. Steve Gottlieb. You know, shout out to Steve. You know, he was a big part of my beginning and why I'm sitting here.
Starting point is 00:06:33 A lot of people's beginnings. A lot of people's beginnings. But he also fucked up. He slipped up. No, no, no. But still. Let me say something. He could have had, like, he could have had me.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He could have had Murda. Pitbull. Pitbull. He could have had DMX. He could have had Jay-Z. No. No, don't say that. I swear to God. He could have had, like, he could have had me. He could have had Murder Ick, Jay-Z. He could have had DMX, he could have had Jay-Z. No, no, don't say that. I swear to God. He could have had, you know, he could have had. Steve Gottlieb listens to Drink Champs.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He could have had The Chronic. Nah, you got to stop. Well, you know Steve called me about Drink Champs. Yeah. He brought The Chronic to Steve first. That's bananas. And Steve passed on it. He passed on Jay.
Starting point is 00:07:03 He passed on X. Was it The First Chronic? Only one he knew was a star was me, so good. Hey. God damn it. You don't understand. That's bananas And Steve passed on it He passed on J He passed on X Was the first chronic? Only one he knew Was a star was me So good Hey God damn it I still understand
Starting point is 00:07:09 Hey I still understand That's the only one he picked So he goes to Mike Geronimo And then they go to Cash Money Click Yeah Now Cash Money Click
Starting point is 00:07:18 You guys do an album Correct? Or is this a No we We were in the process Of making an album We didn't get We didn't get a chance to fully make the album.
Starting point is 00:07:27 As you know, see, this is the funny shit. And who's in Cash Money Clicks? Me, my brother, Chris Black. Chris Black, what's going on, my nigga? What's up, Black? What up, O1? Those are my brothers, man. Oh, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:07:38 That was dope. Right. And the funny shit is, when we first got our deal, we got the deal, it, what, 30, 31? 3,500 a piece of shit. We're going to do this. Let's do the Santa Margarita. You know, that's real good shit.
Starting point is 00:07:51 OK, let's go. Let's go. I'll put my name on it. But they gave us like 35. We split like 3,300 hours a piece of some shit like that. OK, how did that split? How did that go down? No, no, that's what we got.
Starting point is 00:08:03 How do you split 3,300 in three ways? 1,000, 1, what we got. We got a whole new deal. How do you split 3300 in three ways? A thousand thousand dollars? No, no. You each got 3300. We each got 3300. It was like 10 something. It was like 10 grand of shit and we broke it down. We got 5 grand from the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Big up the trash. You get more than us. Big you up trash. Shit. So we got, we did. So, so, you know, us being who we was, we decided, you know, we still us in that time Black had a plan we gonna flip some of this bread and remix, you know, make some money black when you say black Okay in the process of the same as black child, right?
Starting point is 00:08:35 In the process of that black guy locked up and Did five years god bless god bless and and And that kind of tore apart what the group was gonna be. You know what I'm saying? And then so I was in limbo. I didn't know what I was gonna do because the label wasn't trying to just put out me and Owe. It wasn't trying to do that. It was trying to make it a group situation where Black was going. So I was kind of trying to wait it out and see what's going on. Mike was doing his thing. Gotti was doing his thing with Mike. But Mike and Gotti started getting into a little riff.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You know what I mean? Was that some Flush and Holler shit? Nah, I wouldn't say Flush and Holler shit. I just say, you know, Mike. Light-skinned nigga shit. Nah, Mike had ambitions to work with other producers that was from his hood, like Large Professor. You know, dudes like that. You know what I'm saying? He wanted to really work with those dudes. other producers that was from his hood, like Large Professor, you know, dudes like that.
Starting point is 00:09:26 You know what I'm saying? He wanted to really work with those dudes. And Gotti, like, keep it in the house. Yeah, Gotti felt a little slighted because it was like, yo, I put you in this position, and as soon as you get in the position, you want all these other dudes to make it be. So they had a little thing with them or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It didn't have nothing to do with me. I really didn't care what was going on with that. I just wanted to make music and do my thing. And so that's basically how that was rolling out. Mike and Gotti got into a fallout, which was the end of that, and which was really the beginning of Ja Rule. Salute, let's make some noise for Ja Rule, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah. So do you guys actually do an album? Or what was it? We didn't do an album on TVT. Oh, wow. We did an album after I was signed to Def Jam. Damn. I went back.
Starting point is 00:10:22 No, not after. Holla, holla. After that. You did the Cash Moneya, holla. After that. You did the Cash Money Click album after that? After that. Get the fuck out of here. After that. It never came out.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Who has that album? I don't know. It was a dope album. Dream Chance, we could put it out, right? Yeah, we could. Dream Chance would put it in. Y'all fucking fine. Dream Chance would put it in.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yo, but it was a dope album. We recorded the album because Lior said that I could go back and do the album with my guys. Now, let's be clear. Is that because Steve Gottlieb threatened Lior because you were still signed? No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I was off the label at that time. I wasn't signed anymore. I wanted to go back and do a record with my dudes, you know what I'm saying, with my niggas, so... Why not do it at Death Jam? Because they were still signing because you signed the group to TVT
Starting point is 00:11:07 yeah so that was the catch and Steve couldn't go sign you he was going to sign you so Leo felt like dog I'm not
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'm not giving you my couch you know how they talk about us you know what I'm saying exactly I'm not giving you my couch like that's my couch you know what I'm saying and I built this couch you know what I'm saying? And I built this couch.
Starting point is 00:11:25 You know what I'm saying? But the reality was, I wanted to do something with my niggas. You know, a dope project that would have been dope. It would have been dope on Def Jam, but Steve wasn't having that. So we did the whole project on TVT. And Irv produced it.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Irv produced it. We did the project on TVT. DJ Irv. We did the fucking project on TVT. Come time to drop. Photoshoot. Whole shit. Whole nine.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Everything. Everything ready. Ready to go. Come time for the shit to drop. Leo was like, I will never give you job for that project. I love Leo. I love Leo. So now, we like your Leo, but you said we could do it. I love Leo. I love Leo. So now,
Starting point is 00:12:05 we like your Leo, but you said we could do, I never said that. That sounds just like him. And so, Steve sued Leo, and that was a whole fucking crazy situation and shit.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Caught. So, let me ask you, were you originally a solo artist? No, I was in the group originally. Wow. And that's how you thought your career would end, as a group? That's how I wanted it.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Wow. You know what I mean? How did you get singled out to do the Def Jam deal? I don't know. I'm going to tell you that. I'm going to tell you that. No, no, no. I'm going to tell you that.
Starting point is 00:12:41 So it's kind of crazy how shit goes. So we get a call. Actually, Foxy Brown. Can you get that mic? Say it for a minute. I can't get it in my mouth. It's the interview mic. Big shout to Foxy. Big shout to Foxy Brown.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So anyway, it was a funny time. So I was around 18, 19 in that area. And they was doing a birthday party. I was having a birthday party at Q Club. Q Club in Queens. And so everybody was at the shit. I'm about to say something crazy, but let me relax. I gotta totally relax, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You gotta relax, bro. Everybody's at the shit. At the Q Club, everybody's there. Preem, all them, Bim, Black Trust, God the Q Club, everybody's there, you know, Preem, all of them, Bim, Black Trust, God bless you, everybody's there. And so, you know, at the time, you know, I was up and coming or whatever, you know, they knew Mike Geronimo and shit, and they knew about the clique. Well, not like that, but they knew we had our two little records or whatever. So, Jay and Foxy was performing Ain't No Nigga at night at the Q Club. Ain't no nigga like the one I got.
Starting point is 00:13:51 No one could fuck you better. That was that thing. So they were performing at that night. So I was there and Fox was there. And, you know, I was the little nigga that all of the gangster niggas were showing love to. You know, sending me bottles and shit like that. that and you know just just real showing love for my birthday. Drinking Remy Martin at the time? I was drinking Remy Martin at the time yeah. So Fox is like yo who's this nigga? So Pretty comes and says yo come kick it with Fox and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Pretty boy. Pretty boy her brother yeah. Pretty comes to, yo, Fox, I'm going to meet you, whatever, whatever. So I go downstairs, fucks with Fox and shit. We kick it. You know, I tell her, you know, who I am, the rap nigga.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I'm trying to rap, do my thing and all that shit. So me and Fox, you know, we got a bond, a friendship out of that. So lo and behold, one day she's in the office
Starting point is 00:14:44 and Lior is trying to find new groups to sign. out of that. So, lo and behold, one day she's in the office and Leroy's trying to find new groups to sign. He's looking at Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz and Cash Money Click. So he asks Fox,
Starting point is 00:14:56 his number one star at the time, pulls in the office and says, yo, I'm looking to sign these new artists. What do you think
Starting point is 00:15:04 about these guys? What do you think about Peter Gunn, or these guys, Cashmere and Click? When he said Cashmere and Click, she was like, yo, those are my niggas. Them niggas is dope. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you should fuck with them niggas.
Starting point is 00:15:13 They get busy. So she hits me. She says, yo, it goes from that to, yo, Leo wants to sign you. Because she had your number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It went down. No, no.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Just playing. You got to relax. You It went down. Yeah, no, no. I'm just playing. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. Is that what you were gonna talk about? They gave me the alley-oop. It was the alley-oop right there. I just had to take it out. We'll take that out.
Starting point is 00:15:33 No, me and Fox are friends. So anyway, so she called me and told me, yo, Leo wants to sign y'all. And you knew who Leo was at the time? Okay. So I say, okay. I call Gotti. I'm like, Gotti, Leo wants to sign us.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Right. He's looking for us. The group. He wants to sign the group. He wants to sign the group. Right. He wants to sign you. Gotti's like,
Starting point is 00:15:58 where do you get this from? I said, Foxy told me, nigga, this is real. You know what I'm saying? So he calls Jay. Jay at the Fox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He calls Jay. They had the record you know so he calls Jay he calls Jay they had the record together so he figured Jay might know a little more insight on the thing so he calls Jay and Jay's basically like I don't really know nothing about it but let me do some you know searching around to find out so he goes does a little
Starting point is 00:16:20 research and comes back to the guy and says yo it's real Leo wants to set up a meeting with y'all the meeting gets set up we go to the meeting we get to the meeting leo comes out does the whole you know shit with us takes us in the back long story short he says he only wants to sign me wow but you had solo records how did did he? I had Get the Fortune, which was kind of like a solo record. You know what I mean? It was me rhyming basically most of the record. Like, Black and Only had small parts of the second verse and the third verse.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So basically, it was my record. You know what I mean? And I hadn't had any solo records yet. You didn't even think of that? So was Leo the first person to make you think of that? That he made you a solo artist? Yeah, I'm asking, yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:17:10 I never really thought of it like that, but yeah, basically Leo made me a solo artist. That's crazy. He made me a solo artist. He's like, yo, I only want to sign the little guy with the big voice. And so now we all sitting in that, I'm like, yo, this, you know how that shit,
Starting point is 00:17:24 it's bittersweet. It's like, fuck, I finally got my deal that I want but now it's you know what I so I went you know we talked about it and Owen Black you know they black was in jail oh you know he gave me his blessings like okay man we will double back and do this later which was what I was trying to do when I did the Cash Money Click album. And Leo stopped that. So now you sign as a solo artist. Sign as a solo artist. You come out with Holla Holla, right?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Holla Holla has a success. But I don't think it's the success that you want. Am I correct? I'm outside of looking at you. Why do you say that, though? I'll get to it later. I'm just asking, Am I correct? I'm outside of looking in. Why do you say that though? I'll get to it later. I'm just asking, am I correct?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Remind me, I'll get to it later. You did a great job yesterday. I wouldn't say that, you know, because at the time, I really, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:19 in that era of hip hop, niggas was really only doing gold. Only niggas that were selling bulk was West Coast niggas. Yeah, I was the gold nigga, I was the gold nigga. That was me.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Gold was the standard. Gold was, yeah, was like the platinum for most hip hop artists at the time. Redman was doing gold, Methamand, that was the EPMD. When I came over to Def Jam, that was the standard, was niggas doing gold. Gotti, you know, he was like, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? We want to sell bulk. We want to sell like the niggas on the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So, you know, I had it in the back of my mind, but it wasn't really like something that I thought was really possible
Starting point is 00:18:54 at the time. I just was like, yo, if I go gold, I know I'm going to get another record on Def Jam. You got to understand
Starting point is 00:18:59 something. When you sign a Def Jam, sign a Def Jam. Like signing the Yankees. You know what I'm saying? It's intimidating. You will be on the Minnesota
Starting point is 00:19:04 Timberwolves tomorrow. And that's not even baseball. You know what I'm saying? It's intimidating. You will be on the Minnesota Timberwolves tomorrow. You will be on the motherfucking And that's not even baseball. It's a different sport. Yeah, for real. It's like, it ain't like niggas think, oh, I signed at Def Jam.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I mean, look at the track record of Def Jam. It's a whole nother fight once you get on Def Jam. Now you got to get I remember my story. I remember my story. You came to
Starting point is 00:19:18 Shit, before. Listen, let me just say this. I remember my story. You came to me and I had the same exact story. You came to me one day and said that Leo invited you to his place on 20th and Park. I forget where it was.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And you said, is it nice? And he said, yeah, make sure you're hot enough to come here next year. And I had that same exact story the day before or the day after. It could have been the day after you. And that describes Def Jam at that moment. It's like, yo, motherfucker, if you hot, then we gonna fuck with you. If you're not, we fucking with the motherfucker that's hot.
Starting point is 00:19:50 That's it. And that was it, it was straight up and down, so it's not even disrespect. Def Jam was an institution, man. They grew niggas up fast. Damn, institution, damn, I ain't look at it like that, boo. It was, it was. It was the school of hard knocks for hip hop.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Because even niggas that wasn't signed to Def Jam would be in the Def Jam all day. All the other labels would be at Def Jam. They had Rush Management there. They had Violator there. So everybody was there. The whole industry, that was like... It was like the epicenter of hip hop at the time. Yes, that was it. Def Jam. Okay, so HALA HALA comes out. What was that? 336? No, that was it. Def Jam. Okay, so Hala Hala comes out. What was that?
Starting point is 00:20:27 336? No, that was Vinny Benavides. Vinny Benavides. Okay, my bad. Great album, by the way. Great album, right? Comes out. And then after this, it's a switch.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Wait, but you didn't get back to why he didn't like Hala Hala? Oh, yeah. I did like Hala Hala. I loved Hala Hala. So where'd you get that from? Okay, I'm going to tell you. Now is the time. The time is...
Starting point is 00:20:49 Hold up. Okay. You got to warn me, nigga. You got me this time. All right. The reason why is because of the switch. The switch is Holla Holla was like, it's for the Holla's bass.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you one thing. I'm going to tell you. This is a personal story, me and you. All right. We had lived six months like Together in the same block and we had even spoke right and it was just one day you knocked on my door
Starting point is 00:21:15 He was like you smoke. It's like yeah, like I'm smoking right now. He's like you got cigars and I have Phillies That's why you just ranked on me earlier In Jersey, yes. Not lift racked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're already up. We're already up. We're already out the hall.
Starting point is 00:21:31 We're already up. And then one day, I'ma be honest, I don't know, tell me if I'm wrong with the timeline, but one day it was fucking with you, and you knocked on my door, and this is not to be cool already, and he said, yo, let me tell you something. He said, let me ask you something, Lord.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And I said, what's up? He said, you think I sound like X? And I was like, no. And he was like, I know I don't. It's, you know, we both loud. And then, I don't know if it was from that moment on, but you changed your whole shit from, like, you trusted me,
Starting point is 00:22:07 because I was like a stranger, basically, but I'm in your same game, and you knocked on my door, you asked me that. You know what it was, Nori? It's like, when you're an artist, because you know what, pardon me for cutting you off,
Starting point is 00:22:20 you know why I knew exactly what you was going through? It's because I had came out as Capone or Noriega, and everyone compared me to Mobb D. Right. And that's why you felt me. Yeah. Because I was like, yo, listen, everyone compared me to, and this is what I told you.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And everybody used to compare Mike Geronimo to Nas. Yes. But I don't know if I told you this or not, I don't remember. And I don't know, because I'm trying to claim credit for something maybe I can't claim credit for. But I said, that's why I fucked with Pharrell. I said, Pharrell made me a different nigga. And you never answered me, you just listened to me, and then you start coming with these other records,
Starting point is 00:22:56 and your cars started changing down the block. I'm gonna be honest with you, come on. This is the first thing I saw on the Maybach out there. Goddammit, I didn't even know what that was at first. I was about to say, what is that? I was the first thing that was Maybach. Me or Jay. Me or Jay.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Okay, but wait, wait, wait. Before he answers this, what other records did you notice that started sounding different? No, it was after that album. I forget it was the first single from the next album. It was Between Me and You, i think between me and you and it was from that moment that i felt in my opinion mind you i'm still a fan you're my friend at this time i'm still a fan in my opinion that was your way of saying i'm my own motherfucking differentiating yourself. You know what I'm saying? Let me tell you. So, yeah. When you're an artist and you're a new artist,
Starting point is 00:23:50 people feel the need to compare you to something that's out there. Which is not all the way bad. This is the new rock. That's how people rock. It's always going to be the new rock.
Starting point is 00:24:01 That's how people like Jay and basketball and whatever is going to be. Oh, this guy's like Michael. That's why they like something most of the time. Whatever. He's the new Steph Curry. There's always going to be that guy that's compared to.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So I was getting so much, yo, he sounds like X. He's want to me Tupac And it's like Guys These guys Me and X were friends First of all But Tupac Of course I love Tupac I looked up to Tupac
Starting point is 00:24:36 It was fucking dope to everybody These are the things I'm teaching my son Because he raps now Young Rue with the braids He look just like you You could never win to Maury These are the things I'm teaching my son because he raps now and I'm trying to teach him something. Young Rool with the braids? Yeah. He look just like you, but you could never went to Maury. Me tell you what, I'm just throwing it out there.
Starting point is 00:24:51 No Maury, no Maury. Maury would have kicked you out. But what I tell him, Norm, is you can't fit in when you stand out. Wait, what? Hold on a second. I'm going to explain that. Okay. You know what I'm saying And what I mean by that is I was a young
Starting point is 00:25:08 Kid Not seeing myself as Ja Rule And Being influenced By hip hop So yeah I went and got tattoos Like everybody else was getting tattoos Motherfuckers was rocking bandanas
Starting point is 00:25:23 I was rocking bandanas But what I wasn't realizing is I'm becoming Ja Rule Everybody else was getting tattoos. Motherfuckers was rocking bandanas. I was rocking bandanas. But what I wasn't realizing is I'm becoming Ja Rule. So now Ja Rule is going to be looked at and scrutinized different than just the kid that's on the street emulating his favorite artist. Right. You understand what I'm saying? No, absolutely. So that's what I mean by it's hard to fit in when you stand out. I was becoming a standout.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It was impossible for me to fit in and be part of the in crowd of what niggas was doing anymore. So in my mind, I said, you know what? I'm an artist first. I have to change this whole narrative. I have to become Ja Rule. Was it ecstasy? Let's throw it out there. Yo, you guys need ecstasy.
Starting point is 00:26:11 That's the chain. Hey, listen, man. And Miami is the culprit. Miami is the culprit. I'm not ashamed. I did some ecstasy in my fucking dance. I'm going to be honest. I did some ecstasy.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I feel like we all. I feel like we all. Don't put me on it. Not me on the table. Ecstasy. You made millions off of it. Ecstasy. I feel like we all felt that you made millions off of it. I was taking an X and listen, every little thing that we do did not pop up in my head, my niggas. What the fuck? I was mad as a drum. I was like, damn, this is a job.
Starting point is 00:26:40 You got a green nipples, girl. You got a green nipples, girl. Yo, I ain't gonna lie to you. But, yo, listen, Ru. It was beautiful to see that transition, though. It was beautiful for you to see. That's art. That's art.
Starting point is 00:26:58 You should be able to transcend and do different things with your art form. And sometimes. And come into your own. I think that's what you were saying. Yes. Eventually, you're your art form. And sometimes... And come into your own. I think that's what you're saying. Yes. Eventually, you're going to emulate. And change. And then you come into your own.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And change. EFN, but yes. F in EFN? Tomato to my uptime, bro. But, you know, EFN... No, yeah. If you... EFN, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It's my life. It's my life problem. It's his life. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry. If you are an artist and you want to elevate and change, sometimes the fans don't want you to do that. But let me ask you.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I'm sorry. Because what was the first single game we just established? Between Me and You. Between Me and You, right? So what was the moment where you said, I'm going to stick with this formula because it worked, or you said, I'm going to go back? What was the moment where you said, you know what, fuck it. I'm going to just stick here.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Because I remember, okay. It was, I don't remember the exact moment because it was like. You took a lot of drugs, nigga, fuck it. No, no, no. It was because it was an onslaught of you look you trying to be like you sound like you you know so it was also so the conscious decision was just made like you know what i have to come into my own i do my hair let me say between me and you right you said between me and you yeah between me that's a little more of a sharpie. Christine Mignon. Christine Mignon.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You put the yalla on. You put the yalla on. That's a sinister smile he just gave. I love her, man. I love her. I totally forgot about her. You're a good boy. You a good boy.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I told you you didn't get into shit. I got notes. That's not in my notes. That's not in my notes. I told you! I don't know if that was one of her first records or... I'm sure it was early. It was early in her career. We love her, but that's her first record that we know from her.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It was early in her career, actually. So how did you meet Christina Malone? What happened? She was an artist at Def Jam. Oh, that's right. She was on Def Jam and she was a new talent on Def Jam that they was trying to maneuver. Did they set that up to set her up? That was your choice or Def Jam's choice? Because you ordered and-
Starting point is 00:29:19 It was a mutual choice. What was the name of the first album? It was 236? No, I'm bugging you and what was the first album is 26 no bugger And that we go that we go I gotta relax, not dead. I'm counting your money, my friend. This is totally, totally out of line. Totally out of line, man. I'm just calculating all together. So, you come up with this record. Now, she's... Woo! That's my guy!
Starting point is 00:29:56 I didn't think you guys would smoke that much. Look at me light, God damn it. I'm gonna be honest here, you gotta relax. So, you come... Yeah, you gotta join, brother. You gotta join, you change. Me. You come, yeah, you gotta join, brother. You gotta join. You changed. You changed. I changed. Me and Gunna was talking about you earlier.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Me and Gunna. You just said five minutes ago, I'm bougie too. You see that? And then he flipped back. He said, I love it. You gotta do it. I'm not bougie on camera, boo. You gotta relax.
Starting point is 00:30:16 On camera, I'm hardcore. Camera persona. On camera, I'm hardcore. I don't eat tuna tartare at all. On camera, all right? So, you come off of this first single. The success happens. Def Jam is now back. Okay, I don't need to talk hard. Oh, okay, right so you come up with this first single the success Happens Def Jam is now pushing you towards what they're putting the thing
Starting point is 00:30:33 They cuz you know Leo's price in it like we've got the protect you underbelly That's what he told me is that is that exact statement exact statement? Those words? That's his words. You have to protect the underbelly. By the way, I still don't know what an underbelly is. I think that's your dick. I'm just going around asking. What is underbelly?
Starting point is 00:30:51 No, the underbelly is what he's saying. You have to protect your, you know. It's your blind side, basically your body. Your hardcore fans, you know what I'm saying? Your day ones. No, we know that. Yeah, that's what he's basically saying. So, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But, you know, they basically wanted me to make another Hala Hala. I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. You know what I'm saying, like that's not happening. In Brazil with Gloria Valdez. That's never happening, I'm never making another Hala Hala. Gloria Valdez. He just, he just, he's throwing his face.
Starting point is 00:31:19 He's throwing his face. You're throwing the face. You're just throwing his face. He's just throwing his face. No, that's from Gloria Valdez, Gloria Valdez. Remember, you broke her as well. Like, you ain't gonna break her. You're just throwing it in there. No, that's from Gloria Velazquez. Gloria Velazquez. Remember. You broke her as well. Like, you ain't gonna cry.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's probably horrible. You broke her as well? . Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, that's gonna stop, man. By the way, this is a foul show. I don't even mean it like that at all. I didn't, I just seriously.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yo, Gloria Velazquez, you can come on the show, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to the show. Yeah, come to the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to the show.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to the show. Come to my sister, please. Come to my show. Big eyes out the globe. But the first time I saw her was in that video. She had the black thing on. It was very crazy. I was like, oh, my God. Holy moly. And then she did a thing. She did a thing.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yes. Yes. OK. The video vixens were a big part of hip hop culture. I mean, throughout every era. You know, they played a big part. hip-hop culture. I mean, throughout every era. You know, they played a big part. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the MeatEater Podcast Network,
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Starting point is 00:36:33 They better be pot. They dig, dig, dig, dig. Dot com. They pot. Do I dare? They're pot. Do I dare or leave it alone? Leave it all the way alone.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Oh, you want to go after him on that. Get my glasses on, man. Because Gotti went in. I don't know if you've seen the Gotti shit. You had to have seen that. It's so crazy, you can't even avoid it if you're not trying to see it. I've seen it. I've seen it a hundred times.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So I know rules because you don't do interviews. And that's another thing rules you don't do interviews I don't do it and you know how many people can be mad at me Okay The super head. Is there anything to comment on super head or we just leave it? Not for me, man. I mean, you know, it's like, you know, she's her and she does what she does. And that's, you know, her thing. You know what I'm saying? That was real.
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Starting point is 00:40:15 That's the reality, you know. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. You know. You got to let it be what it got to be. Hey, listen, man. You know what I've learned? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:40:24 To be on the side of positivity. I don't let things get to me anymore. I just, you know, I let it roll down my back, man, and go on about my positive life and doing things that I like to do. You know what I mean? It's a beautiful day, man. It keeps me sane, you know. It's a beautiful day. It keeps me sane, man. And I try to preach that to everybody like you know just
Starting point is 00:40:49 Positivity hmm does JLo butt smell like cherries? Cuz I'm not gonna lie Like a little from, like, a nigga from Queens, like, I looked at my nigga from Hollis, I said, he sniffed. He sniffed. You didn't sniff? In that moment, you think he sniffed? Like, I got a front.
Starting point is 00:41:12 You gotta sniff. You gotta sniff. Y'all crazy, man. Big shot to J-Lo. Yo, first of all, big shot to her. That's an incredible award she got. The Michael Jackson Vanguard Award. And for Latinos, yo, yo.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I think she's the first Latino, I think, that ever got that. Latina. But, you know. I just want to say, to give her a big shout out, a big thanks for, you know. No, thanks a lot. Letting me be a part of her moment, man. That was dope. That's a historical moment for her.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And, you know, for me, having me a part of that is dope. You look good, man, brother. Thank you, brother. You look good, man. Not natural. I was so happy to see people give you your just do because a lot of people that I'm a thought out there a lot of people think Like you fell off. They probably don't understand you still live your life. You still have the 850
Starting point is 00:42:01 No, I excuse me, let me relax myself. The first one I ever seen, by the way, people don't understand that because you don't brag and you don't understand that your whole jail time, your house is still intact. All people think is you had 19 records playing at one time and now you don't have it, so they think that, you know, they don't understand that you could live a great a great life yeah you know what i'm saying and you know people you know people as you get older man different things start to right excite you right i love music music
Starting point is 00:42:38 is always going to be you know like like my baby you know what i mean i i eat leave he live breathe music i i think of rhymes all the time i think of hooks and all the time do i always want to go in the studio and and lay it down no when i was in prison i didn't write no rhymes at all that's what time where a lot of go and like pin it out i didn't want to to do that. That was a time for me to do something else. Reflect internal. Reflect. Learn who I am. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:11 Because, you know, Malcolm X said something really interesting. And he said, you know, the best place for a black man besides, you know, college is prison. And prison and you know that just sounds so crazy sounds crazy now you understand but when you in prison another institution you start to understand you see in life you're gonna go through three institutions prison army military or education right and when you when you really look at all three of them they're really structured very similar in the way that
Starting point is 00:44:00 they're made to produce human beings yeah you. You know what I mean? Discipline. It's all, all is discipline. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So, so, so when I went to prison, I, I, I really sat with myself and, and had a chance to look at everything, you know, from, from the, from the outside looking in, so to speak, and look at my own life and see my own mistakes and, you know, not, not, not have anybody to blame or point the finger at or anything like
Starting point is 00:44:25 that and just say yo you know what you're here because you fucked up and in a lot of ways you know you want to blame so many things you want to blame the police for the illegal stop or you want to whatever the fuck you would have you know whatever you want to blame but you and Wayne got locked up that same night Wayne got locked up the same night. We got little Wayne's bomb cool. Yo, I'm bum bum boo bum We got a little ways bum boo And I'm gonna tell you why we will crack the bed and I see Q on the back of that name of crooked police In the name, I don't know if we should be doing that I've had shots for way worse shit no I'm not saying for them okay
Starting point is 00:45:09 what are we drinking first of all this is little ways I think you see the islands in the bag oh yeah you got no this is not Wayne. This is Lil Wayne. I see Cuba. I see the islands in the back. Oh yeah, you got no, this is not Tyga Boat. The original. Who, what's this from, what brand is from? Bel Air. From Bel Air, yeah, Bel Air. Big shout out to my peoples over there. Big up Mac Mane, man, Mac Mane.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, and big up Mac. Bamboo, we gonna have some of this shit right here. That shit look hot as hell, I ain't gonna lie. That shit is not cold. That shit looks hot as a mother, that look like Sonny had it in the back. This shit smell like you got to get ready for this. I'm trying to tell you. You do hot shots.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You do hot shots. You do hot shots. You do hot shots. You do hot shots. You do hot shots. You do hot shots. You do hot shots. You do fu- That look like Sonny had it in the bathroom. This shit smell like you gotta be getting ready for this. That shit-
Starting point is 00:45:48 You do half shots, y'all. Half shots, y'all. That shit look like- Like- That shit look like- That shit look like they'll put you on your boom boom. It was in the back of Sonny's truck over the door for a time. That's yours.
Starting point is 00:46:00 That's yours. Hold up, EFK. I'm not gonna smell it cause you just said it's some- Half shots? We go again. Yo Lil Wayne, Mac MayK. I'm not going to smell it because you just said it's some Half shots? We going to get into it. Yo, Lil Wayne, Mac Mayne. We're going to get into it. We're going to get ourselves into it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 We're going to go light, Weezy. You know I love you, my nigga. I'm not even going to smell it, but it's a little way. It look great, though. To Lil Wayne. We need you on, bro. Hopefully we have any great champs. Mac Mayne.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Weezy, go through, Mac Mayne. This is probably where it all go down. Ah. Ooh, I like it. That's just smooth. me we're gonna go down I'm not gonna lie day in these little ice is dangerous is the fuck you yeah yeah yeah it's not a smooth what is it is well it nobody like vanilla in that motherfucker. It got like some... I taste the cinnamon.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I taste a little cinnamon. I taste a little cinnamon. A little cinnamon. A little cinnamon, yeah. Vanilla abstract. But it's alright. That shit's not bad. That shit's not bad.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Shout out to Weezy. J-Lo tears it down. Does her thing. Ashanti is kind of offended. That was a good leeway. That was a good... I did a shot. I did a shot. was a good leeway? That was a good... I did a shot? I did a shot?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Was that good or no? Listen, Ashanti, I was not... We spoke about it, me and Bonnie, and I think she, you know, was...
Starting point is 00:47:19 Was she mad that J-Lo didn't shot her out? No, you know, I don't even want to dig into this because, you know what, you need to have Ashanti on the show. I definitely need to have Ashanti on the show. Ashanti can speak for herself. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to speak for her.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But I will say this. I will say, you know, whatever it looked like, you know, when we spoke, she said that was not her intent. And so, you know, that's what that is. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not even engaging in that and talking about that. You know, it's just crazy, you know, that, like I said, I'm trying to live a drama-free life. No, that's great, man. That is great.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And she put my doorstep on her, you know what I'm saying? So I don't want any drama. So you don't know nothing about this, basically? Only thing I would say, and I think it needs to be cleared up, is what happened. Who wrote what? You know what I'm saying? It doesn't even matter at this point. What we heard is you wrote everything. You're talking about publishing writing?
Starting point is 00:48:21 I'm going to clear this up once and for all. I'm going to clear this up once and for all. Yeah, definitely. I'm going to clear this up once and for all. Thank you. I'm Real was written by me. Beautiful record. Dope record. I'm real. Love that.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I wrote the record. You know, Ain't It Funny came about a funny way. What kind of like title? I want to tell you the story of Ain't It Funny came about a funny way. What kind of like, Tom? I wanna tell you the story of Ain't It Funny. Because Ain't It Funny is a good story. Is it funny? It's kind of funny. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Is it funny? Let's go. So the way Ain't It Funny was created, me and Jen was having a conversation. Excuse me, who? Me and Jennifer, me and J-Lo. Jennifer, of course, of course, Jennifer, bro. Did you see how nice she was? Me and Jennifer, me and J-Lo. Jennifer, of course. Excuse me. Of course, Jennifer, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Did you see how bad she was? Me and Jennifer. Yo, get sneakers, yo. No, no. Get sneakers, yo. I'm sorry, I'm going to relax, Joe. John. All right, let me get him back on my feet.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You and J-Lo. I'm not wearing any socks, by the way. Why would you? What kind of sneakers is those, bro? You're hanging with Jennifer. Those are Nike's? Are those Nike clothes, y'all? So you and J-Lo was having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:49:21 No, him and Jennifer, bro. We like Jen better. Me and Jen was having a conversation. We were having a conversation. We were having a conversation.. So you and J-Lo was having a conversation. No, him and Jennifer, bro. We like Jen better. Me and Jen was having a conversation. And we was just talking about relationships and shit
Starting point is 00:49:33 like that. And she was telling me something about a particular relationship that she was in. And that's how Ain't It Funny came up. Was it Pup Daddy, the relationship? That's what happened. I'm just saying, you told me, Ali. You told me, Ali. ain't it funny cute was it pop daddy You keep going like this. And I'm like, I'm like, that was out of you. That was out of you. You was like, should I have? Should I not? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:50:07 You're not sure that you wrote Ain't That Funny about? No, no, no. I'm not sure who, who. May or may not be about. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It was just a relationship she was talking about. Right. That coincides. And I, I came up with the hook. It was like spontaneous right there.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I was the whole shit. I started laughing I said ain't that funny baby when you love me when you have me love's crazy I'm glad to smile to say ain't that funny so she was like yo that's fucking dope. She loved it. This was just me singing the hook. No reference to anything yet. Okay, all right. So I go to the studio, and I record. We do the, I did the verse, and I did the bridge.
Starting point is 00:51:01 The baby is that you want me, is that you there when we can be, that shit. So, you know, I did those spots. So, Bonnie at the time, she's a new artist. Okay, you gotta relax. Bonnie is Ashanti. Ashanti, yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Everybody's not in with you. His gen, Bonnie, Jeff, one of the names. That Michael walked into? All right, we gotta relax. We're just normal folks, bro. like in his body He's gonna go ahead and expose him. His name is Spidoriade. I'm like, you're Mr. Sexy. Are you talking to Victor? Victor. I'm with you, Victor. Victor wants in. Victor wants in.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He rides in Uber. I think I said Uber. I think I heard that one. You killed that. Go ahead. Yeah, anyway, anyway. So I'm in the industry, though. So, I'm in the studio. So, Bonnie's a new artist at the time.
Starting point is 00:52:08 She's a new artist at the time. And, you know, she's proven that she's got a good, you know, ping game because she's written for herself and stuff like that. So, we're in the studio. And I'm like, yo, Bonnie, yo. The record's basically. You was calling out Bonnie then? I don't know, not then.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Shawnee. Shawnee. Well, I'm like, yo, you know, do the verses to the record. I think I was tired, so I was like, you know what I'm saying, go ahead and lay over here, whatever. Do the verses and shit. So I went in another room, laid down, chilled. Bonnie did the verses, killed the shit. We kept it, you know what I'm saying? Like, there down, chill. Bonnie did the verses, killed the shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:46 We kept it. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's no need to change that. That's, it was magic. You know what I'm saying? In her defense, do you feel like that she felt, she was slighted because of that? In her defense, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:57 No, no, no. I don't, see, I don't know, I don't know if you could. She may. I don't really know. You know what I'm saying may I don't really know you know what I'm saying I don't think she would because you credited as a writer on there right
Starting point is 00:53:09 is she as well well see here's the thing this is where it gets deep here's the thing no here's where it doesn't get so deep but it gets here's the understanding
Starting point is 00:53:17 of it you know what I'm saying she wasn't supposed to write the record you know what I'm saying it was my record to write for record. You know what I'm saying? It was my record to write for J-Lo. So basically, I was hired to write the record and let Bonnie write the verses.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I wrote the hook and the bridge. J-Lo already loved what she knew what the record was going to be, the hook and everything. Benny loved it. They all loved that record. They already loved what the record was. So now it's just fill in the verses
Starting point is 00:53:43 and make it magic. Make it all come together, come to life. So you say you wrote the hook, the beginning, everything. It's just the verses. Right. Now, is it three verses or one verse? I don't even know how many. No, it's like two verses, three verses of the shit.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I think it's two verses, a bridge. Because you and Cadillac Ties on that, correct? Yeah, Cadillac's on the two. So I think it's maybe two verses and that's it. But whatever, you know what I'm saying? Shani wrote shit, she killed the verses.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So we kept them, you know what I'm saying? Right. But it wasn't like, really it was like, no one was really supposed to know, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:19 It was like, I didn't, you know, we didn't want to tell them at the time that Shani wrote the record because she wasn't supposed to. Because it would complicate matters?
Starting point is 00:54:28 You're dealing with women. It's funny. You think Jano's going to be like... No, I don't know. You just never know. You know what I'm saying? There was already a little bit of a situation with the I'm Real record where Abani referenced the record. You know what I'm Real record where Abani referenced the record, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:45 And I got, he left some of the vocals, Abani's vocals under the record, which was, I don't know, not a big deal at all, but you know how media do, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:53 So there was already a little bit of feelings there, I guess, over that, you know what I'm saying? But women are difficult, you know, to deal with
Starting point is 00:55:03 when you're making music and doing it. They're women. You gotta treat them like women. They're emotional and you deal with women how you deal with women. So the record was basically done. Bonnie did the
Starting point is 00:55:18 verses. Record's done. After the fact, it came out. The record's a hit. It doesn't matter now. Who knows who wrote the fucking record? It's like, you know, the record's a hit. It doesn't matter now. Who knows who wrote the fucking record? It's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we stole Mary J. Blige's film to make fucking our video for Get the Fortune and shit.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Hype Williams stole the film. After everybody's successful school, it's all right. It's funny now. At the time, everybody was saying nothing about that shit. We're not going to do that. You know what I mean? So it was kind of like that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And, you know, Ashanti, she did a great job on writing the verses on the record. And it's a dope record. And like, that is the story
Starting point is 00:55:59 of the record. And there's no, nothing else that we need to be talking about about the record anymore. That is the basic story of the record. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Bonnie gets her credit for writing two, whatever, two, three dope verses. I wrote a dope hook. She gets her publishing offer, too? I wrote a dope hook. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I wrote a dope hook and shit for the shit. And J-Lo, if we'd have gave that record to somebody else, it wouldn't be what it is.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You know what I'm saying? So everybody played their part in making what that is. Make some noise for Ja Rule being the most political ass ever. That's not political. That is a real answer. He never said that very well. Here's a real question. Here's a real question.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I see Irv Gotti was there. You were there. Your kids were there. Yeah. Did Irv and J-Lo speak? Because Irv told me J-Lo doesn't speak to him on this show. I don't know if they spoke that night. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I don't think they did. I don't think they crossed each other's paths this week. Because I'm going to be honest. I don't think J-Lo would not speak to him. That's what Gotti said to us she said she intentionally avoids it I don't think that I'm gonna go to the drink I don't think that serious this is a positive Ja Rule, man. He's positive. I love this Ja Rule. Let's make some noise for Ja Rule.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Let's make some noise. I want everybody to be happy, man. Yes, that's a beautiful thing. I want everybody to be. Let me say so. I've been through all the drama. Yes. I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I just want everybody to be happy, man. That's what life is about, man. Do what you do within your space. Be happy. happy man that's what life is about man what you do within your space be happy you know be a provider for your family or a great nurturer to your family if you're a woman or whatever and that is what success is Joe success is not you know whatever material things how much money you have and learn that shit those are just things that people have been going to accumulate along their road to happiness and success my bad rule you know but but you know everybody is successful in their own as long as you
Starting point is 00:58:12 happy so look at for Lil Duval, nigga. Lil Duval, man. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That nigga's always happy, man. Garcia, make some noise. So, I believe yesterday we had Fat Joe here. Crack. What up, Crack? And I said, Fat Joe, where do you stand? Like, you know, because he takes pictures with 50
Starting point is 00:58:49 he hangs out with 50 and then we heard rumor that story of the story that there was supposed to be a summer jam incident where fat Joe comes out he brings out 50 right and then he brings out you which would have been kind of amazing why would that be so amazing everybody I don't know because everything you're saying to us is that right no settle I know what I saw amazing everything you're saying though about being happy happy you look like Prince right now they got the curling right now my shit over there I'm cool I'm good I I'm good with uh- Hold on, hold on. Take this shot first, Rube. I'm good with uh-
Starting point is 00:59:45 Think about it after the shot. No, no, no. Ah-da-ah. Ah-da-ah. Ah-da-ah. Ah-da-ah. What's that mean? Ah-da-ah.
Starting point is 00:59:53 What does that mean? Ah-da-ah. Chi-chi-ga-da-ya-yo. Yeah, something like that. That's what it means. Chi-chi-ga-da-ya-yo. Down it goes. Ah, I'm leaving.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Hardcore. Y'all can't be- It's hardcore. But then it's smooth. No, but when I'm mixing it, it's not good. No, this is good. But when I'm mixing it's not good. Yeah, mixing is fucked up. Y'all can't be being rude to your guests like that, man. How are we rude? What language did we just speak?
Starting point is 01:00:14 You said tututaganga, whatever the fuck that was. Oh, that's three champ shit. Oh, chichigatayayo. Chichigatayayo. What the fuck does chichigatayayo mean? What you talking about? I was so, man. I can't believe you're talking about that. I'm so into it. You talking about the bongo?
Starting point is 01:00:27 What are you talking about? I'm so into it. No, we're talking about the jokes on me. Oh, yeah. All right. So. And he said, why is that good? Okay, no.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Let me just ask you. Who, what's the first time you hear this situation? Me and my. Of, of. You're a fresh one, man. You got punches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at your broaches, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:00:44 You, you very rich. What do you mean? Yo, you stop telling people. Yo, what I, look at your broaches my nigga you you very rich Fat Joe calls you this morning first time you heard this idea was it bad joke Okay First time you heard of this idea, was it Fat Joe? Fat, yeah, well I also wanna hear this idea. Okay, all right. I'm sorry. It was Fat Joe. Fat Joe calls you, and how does this happen? He thought it would be a good idea
Starting point is 01:01:14 to bring me and him on stage for a big summer jam kumbaya. Uh-huh. And I just didn't think that made sense. See, here's what everybody needs to realize. The mic, mic, See, here's what everybody needs to realize. The mic. Sorry. Here's what everybody needs to realize. That's Bahama John right there.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Here's what everybody needs to realize about me and 50. We were never friends. So it's like, y'all are like, y'all need to get a reunion. We were never friends So it's not like We need to rekindle something That was there It was
Starting point is 01:01:51 We were never friends But not to control But Joe and 50 Were never friends either though Well that's Joe and 50's business I'm just saying I'm just for the record They also have something mutual
Starting point is 01:02:01 In common Really Yeah Okay But Chris did manage you too For a little while have something mutual in common. Really? Yeah. Okay. But Chris did manage you too for a little while. Chris did not manage me, man. Like for two weeks.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Not even for two weeks. Even one day? One day. Not even for two weeks. You were there for two weeks? Yeah. I got a picture. It's me, you, Chris Lighty
Starting point is 01:02:19 and Ed Lover. He had it on his calendar. I saw it. I saw it. Chris Lighty never managed me. For like maybe a week and a half. Not even a day and a half. Four days.
Starting point is 01:02:28 It was a leap year. I thought he did it. He never managed me. We, you know, we had a relationship at one time, but, you know, it wasn't. We was West Orange boys. I never had a dislike for Chris Lighty. We never had a bad, you know, it was, listen, man, this shit was rap beef turned into, you know, or street beef. Right rap beef turned into street beef.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Right. It turned into rap beef. You know what I'm saying? And it's like we were never friends, and there's no reason for us to come together and do a kumbaya. You know what I'm saying? No, but just imagine. Like him and Gang, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That's great for hip-hop. They were cool, and then they, you know, not cool. So you don't think you guys would be great for hip-hop? What's so great about it? Tell me what would be so great about that? Joe comes out Let me put the mic. Okay, he comes out. Yeah do New York New York crowds were And then 50 comes up yeah you gotta smack five but one thing is on one side one thing is on the other side and then then Joe's in the middle like for him
Starting point is 01:03:36 he's crazy looks great but you got the smoke can I do it cuz I'm from Queens it look better to me but I cannot pull that off. I know that. So who was it? I just don't see the necessity of it. I mean, you have to understand why fans and people of the culture would like to see it. I mean, you have to understand that part of it. I mean, we don't know the intricacies of the beef. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Y'all asked me. I gave my explanation of how I feel about it. If you ever have him on the show, ask my explanation of how I feel about it. If you ever have him on the show, ask him what he thinks. That's it. And watch him go into all kinds of... I avoided all John Wood questions. Yeah, we did. So next time.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And we interviewed him, we avoided all 50 questions. Yeah, we did, we had no 50 questions. But this is the first time, you know, we all moved on. And we're not doing it for, like, gossip shit. Let me say this, too. Y'all want something big for hip-hop? I'll get you big for hip-hop. Yes, please.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I don't have no issues with him, either. Currently. I don't give a fuck what he does. I don't think he gives a fuck what I do. You know what I'm saying? You both are making money. You guys are good. Here's the real thing.
Starting point is 01:04:45 And here's what all the fans and everybody needs to understand. We're two kids from fucking Queens. From the bottom. We started with nothing, yo. We didn't have not a dollar, not nothing, not two nickels to rub together. We made something of ourselves. And we're both in good positions in our life. People could say he's in a better position for me
Starting point is 01:05:11 for whatever reason. People could say I'm in a better position than him for whatever reason. None of that matters, and it shouldn't matter to nobody else because we don't give a fuck, and we're fine. You know what I'm saying the people that are
Starting point is 01:05:27 worried about that shit or thinking about that shit it's like yo dog what are you doing man this is 2018 we're 40 what am i 42 years old i got three i got grown kids i got a daughter that just graduated from college my son's about to go to college. Like, you know, I'm like, dog, that shit is irrelevant to me. And for us to have this big kumbaya, I think it's really way past the time for that. Does Ja Rule watch Power? I do not. I do not.
Starting point is 01:06:01 But I hear Kourtney Kemp has an amazing show. Yes. That was above my head. I have no Courtney Kemp has an amazing show. Yes. That was above my head. I have no idea what you just said. It's way above my head. It's above my pay grade. I said I hear Courtney Kemp has an amazing show. That was hard.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I don't know why, but I know it was hard. But for the record, though, I did ask Joe about him and Cuban Link as well. Yes. And that didn't pan out at all. Yeah, it didn't pan out. But for the record though, I did ask Joe about him and Cuban Link as well. Yes. And that didn't pan out at all. Yeah, it didn't pan out. Yeah, I asked Joe why he ain't Cuban Link. No, I did.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I did. It didn't pan out. It was the same thing. You know what I'm saying? Same thing. Same thing. Why Nori ain't Cuban Link with the dude he shot? Why he ain't Cuban Link?
Starting point is 01:06:38 Wow. There's no statute of limitations on that. What is he talking about? This is not house cream shit right now. What is he talking about? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's no statute of limitations on that. What is he talking about? This is not house cream shit right now.
Starting point is 01:06:49 What is he talking about? I heard it in a rap song. I heard it in a rap song. I swear to God. I swear to God. But you know what? You know what? Fat Joe called me one day, and he wanted to put his beef aside. Jay.
Starting point is 01:07:10 And I hit Bleak and me and Bleak put that together. And now they Kumbaya. Probably the only beef that I ever wouldn't step into was that. You know what I'm saying? Because I know that y'all shit is personal. At the end of the day, as a person from Queens, as a as a businessman as a rapper i all wish we all got along but i also i wish nobody no you know harm i want everybody to do i i don't i don't care if he does well right you know what i'm saying i don't i don't sit around and when he does something you know you know fucked up or he goes through his problems or whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I don't get on the ground and be like, I don't care. I don't give a fuck. I'm grown, man. I'm beyond that shit. So I really don't, you know, I really don't let those things affect me. You understand what I'm doing right now is so above and beyond that. You know, like I'm I'm in the tech space right now, and I have an amazing tech company. And that's what I want to do.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I want to create and innovate and entertain. I want to do things that people are not doing. You know what I'm saying? And in the meanwhile, pushing hip-hop forward. You know what I'm saying? Doing things to help the culture That's what I'm about. That's what I want to do. You know me philanthropy. You know things like that. I'm not philanthropy I'm not
Starting point is 01:08:39 Let's fill it out for the fans keep going keep going Tell us about your tech ventures. Yeah, so I got a tech company. You don't got to talk, man. We're talking tech ventures over here. We're talking tech, man. Yeah. So, no, I got a tech company. Is it investing in tech or you're developing the tech yourself?
Starting point is 01:09:03 No, I'm developing the tech myself. But I'm also into investing in tech or you're developing the tech yourself? No, I'm developing the tech myself, but I'm also into investing in tech. I also will invest and have invested in it. So what's the main stuff you're trying to develop? So right now I'm developing... You know, that's big right now. Yes, it's kind of cool what I'm doing because I'm really trying to educate artists. So you're putting other people onto it.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah. You know, my platform is I'm really what you would call, you know, the application agent. Right. You know what I mean? I created a booking app. So, you know, I could put Nori on the app or whoever. Like a booking agent. So, you know, I could put Nori on the app or whoever on the app. Like a booking agent app? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:45 And it's an app and buyers can go directly to the artist. Right. To their management team. So, you know, if a guy in Dubai wants to do a fucking,
Starting point is 01:09:57 you know, a birthday party for his daughter and he wants to pay Nori a fucking million dollars to come, he can hit the Nori direct.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Right. Don't have to go through all the hoops and circles. And it's one-to-one, it's direct. I don't take anything from the artist. I get my money on the back end. And it's really something true. Yo, you're very disruptive, Nori. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:10:20 What are you talking about? I want to hear a story in a million dollars. And you're not disruptive in a positive way, which is what we're talking about. You're really disrupting things. What are we talking about? What are we talking about right now? We're talking about you on a app.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I was trying to just tell them about my new tech venture. Not Fyre Festival, because we got to talk about that. No, no. Damn, we got to talk about that? Yeah, we can talk about that. We can talk about that. We got to talk about that. I thought that's what we were talking about over there.
Starting point is 01:10:42 All right, well, we talked about that. The app is amazing. Can you pop the bottle? Let me tell you something. Let me see if you're a champagne nigga, Rude. Niggas die from hot champagne. I want to make sure that... I'm not going to lie, your bracelet is very nice.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Thank you, my brother. I appreciate you. That one didn't even come out. Yeah, this is of course. This is the Cartier nail. This is my favorite right here. This is my favorite, you see this? I'm hungry. I'm fucking hungry.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Let's make some noise for this bracelet. Goddamn it. Alright, we gonna put this motherfucking bottle in there. I ain't got a fucking bottle, I got rubber shits. You're gonna put this bottle in there? Stop it, man. I got, look at, Okay. Real champagne. Alright, alright.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Come on, man. We got champagne glasses. Come on, man. I got no fancy head drink champs. See that? I bet the niggas have red cups. The niggas got glasses and hey, things like flutes. God damn it. Do you want to make some noise for us? I want to make some noise. Y'all got slaves?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Pop Daddy cut the check, my dear. God damn it. Let's make some noise for that nigga. Make some noise for my nigga Diddy. Y'all make some noise for Diddy. God damn it. But hold up. No, we got a blunt Bob. Yeah, make some noise for Diddy, god damn. But hold up. No, we got a blunt roller. Yeah, no, no. He got a blunt roller.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I got a blunt friender. He's my friend. That blunt roller. He rolls blunt, yeah. So he don't get paid then, is what you saying? No, no, no, we about to put him on a pay roll. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just said, see that?
Starting point is 01:12:21 I just got you a check, man. I didn't put him on a pay roll. I got you 10%. All right, just got you a tip, man. I didn't put it on the table. I brought you 10%. All right, we got you. We got you. And we also have the finest cigars from Nicaragua. Oh. I'm a Nicaragua nigger.
Starting point is 01:12:33 OK. I'm not a. Did I say that out loud? Did I say that out loud? I meant, you know, because a lot of these women want to be from Cuba. I'm a Nicaraguan nigger. A lot of these want to be from Cuba.
Starting point is 01:12:43 I'm just telling you, Nicaragua. Yo, I got a show tonight, man. I can't be... I know you're trying to show this. I know you're promoting, nigga. It's all good. It's all good, nigga. Come on.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You're good. Let's finish our wine first. I would like that you respect me. Let's finish our wine first. Then we'll go to champagne. I love my brother. And no, man, this is a... I just want to say man Yes
Starting point is 01:13:05 Please This is a fucking amazing thing That you got going on With Drink Chance man Thank you man I love you my brother I love you too man I love to see you doing this shit
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Starting point is 01:13:23 Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop Hip hop I should control all media. All media. I own everything.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And that's why I was telling them about the app that I created. It's for us. It's not just for me. It's for everybody. It's for you, to you, everybody. You know what I'm saying? You fucking have people direct you, contact you one-to-one. It's an amazing fucking platform, man.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Thank you, man. So we got to get fire out the way, and then we're going to get out the way. Well, I can't. I don't really. I can't i don't really i can't really talk about the sandwiches it's still there's no sandwiches i'm gonna call you personally i'll say your group you gave bologna hold up hold up you're talking about the festival? I said, you ain't got friends like this. You know what I'm saying? That call you and fucking tease you and tell you I'm a pain. I said, you ain't got friends, nigga. I ain't got a lot. And listen, like the little bit of racism in me was like, you gave white people bologna? That's hard.
Starting point is 01:14:17 That was hard. Like, that feels like a little bit. I'm sorry. I got a little bit in me. First and foremost, I want to say. You definitely gave them bologna. First of all, first of all, I want to say, I'm not ashamed of fire. I'm not ashamed of fire at all. But the festival, what you guys try to do?
Starting point is 01:14:39 No, because, man, the idea of what I was. Coachella in Bahamas. It was brilliant. It was fucking beyond brilliant. Because it's in Bahamas. It was brilliant. It was fucking beyond brilliant. Because it's in Bahamas, right? Yeah. The festival idea, everything. It was orchestrated. Coachella in Bahamas.
Starting point is 01:14:53 It was sold. It was sold really well. It was amazing. But that's the but. It wasn't what I dreamed it of being or what I envisioned it of being or what I wanted it to be. It wasn't done properly. It wasn't, you know, you understand? And so as a friend, you think if you would have been on the ground, it would have been a little better?
Starting point is 01:15:17 Because that was, when I realized, you know, because I'm like a media guy, so I have to like read everything. No, no, no, finish the wine first. Come on. I have to read everything? I had no, finish the wine first. Come on. Hold on. I have to read everything? I had to write to the center. All right. You had to go, right. You asked him some difficult questions, right? One of the difficult, one of the words that most complaints was, I felt like people wanted to see you.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Involved when it went wrong. When it went wrong, I just felt like, period. When it went wrong, when it went right, I just felt like if they would have saw you do you think it was a logistics problem this is a real nigga conversation you mean see me as far as what on the ground i mean like you know when you see you know uh david grutman and live it just makes you feel good you know what i'm saying so i i feel like when i'm reading the stories that's mostly I don't think it fits the situation I think I think because it was you were born it was a logistics issue I'm outside of looking at your people outside of the didn't buy into the first people didn't really know I had anything to do with the festival
Starting point is 01:16:20 until they went wrong that's the crazy part that's the truth i didn't know yeah and then it was like then they call you yeah because they try to blame somebody it was my idea my vision to do this. It's Swiss champagne time. And I'm no way, shape, or form ashamed of my vision and what it was to do this. I wanted to create something amazing. My bad. I wanted to create something amazing. And, you know, I'm not a nigga that likes to, you know, put blame and throw people in the bus on others.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I, you know, I like to, you know, put the onus on myself is to say I should have been more on top of things. I should have, you know, you know, not trusted, you know, people with certain things. And maybe, you know, positive things would have been like that. So, you know, that part of it, you know, I take all responsibility. And I'm like, fuck, you know, that, you know, I wish, you know, I wasn't running around on tour and moving around and, you know, doing things and not in the office and not being on top of the whole situation the way I should have been because you know one thing as artists sometimes you lend your
Starting point is 01:17:50 vision deep as a creative yeah and and when you lend your vision to others you entrust in others to carry that vision it's like me making an album for Def Jam and giving them the finished product and saying, okay, you guys do what you do with it. You know what I'm saying? I just gave them my vision, my creation, but they didn't fuck it up. There's plenty of artists that complain about giving their vision to art or whatever, and they fuck it up. They don't carry that vision. They don't grasp what they, you understand,
Starting point is 01:18:27 it's not carried out orchestrated probably. So these things in business happen. But, you know, the one thing that I really, you know, I'm really proud of myself as I didn't let that, I didn't let that, I didn't let that,
Starting point is 01:18:45 you know, set me back the way people thought it would. You know, I lost, you know, people don't think I lost money in that shit.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not like, I didn't make a dollar out of any of that. What did you learn out of that situation though? Because I mean,
Starting point is 01:18:59 you have to have learned something. My main lesson that I learned out of that is never give nobody the keys to your motherfucking car. You understand? My main lesson that I learned out of that is never give nobody the keys to your motherfucking car. You understand? You can get in it, nigga, but you can't drive. Right, right. You understand?
Starting point is 01:19:14 And I think, I think that was my main. That's how niggas be trying to take my rosé sometimes. That's what you got out of that? That's what I got out of it. Them n what I got out of it. That nigga's better beat that old bottle's nigga next time. Yeah. No, because if it's your vision,
Starting point is 01:19:29 it's like the old saying, you want something done right, you got to do it yourself. If it's your vision, you got to see it through. You got to carry it out. You can't expect somebody else to carry out your vision.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And that's my, that was the, one of the things that I learned out of that, you know, is to be really, really, you know, when it comes to business. And so, you know, like any other businessman would do, or a person that believes in themselves, you know, would do. I dusted myself off. I, you know, recreated my situation, my company. And it's an amazing company.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And, you know, I'm pushing forward. Are you trying to do something like that again? It's very different. You know what I mean? It's very different in what I'm doing, but it's similar. You know what I'm saying? It's similar, but it's different in how I'm creating the atmosphere. But definitely not with the same people at all.
Starting point is 01:20:35 No, no, no. No, actually, you know, me and my guy, we're doing it. The guy that built my previous platform. The other guy's going to jail. Is that true? He's in trouble. He's in some trouble. He's in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 01:20:49 But not for the festival. For some other shit. He's in trouble for the festival. He's in trouble for some other things. It's crazy. It's a tough situation, man. It's a tough situation to be involved in, to have your name involved in,
Starting point is 01:21:08 and, you know, to have people look at me a certain way. And you know my character, you know? Like, I'm not, come on, man. Like, you know, I get people, you know, saying scam, you're a scammer and you're trying to fraud people and scam people. And I'm like, what did I get out of that? I'm not going to lie. The bologna sandwiches was mad funny.
Starting point is 01:21:27 It was funny. It was funny as a motherfucker. But, you know, that's media shit, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, just really think about it. If there was only bologna sandwiches and cheese sandwiches, you think there was only one picture of a bologna sandwich that's floating around? Yeah. Just one picture with a thousand people on the island? They've been holding them shits up like Look at what they're doing to us! We bought that baloney!
Starting point is 01:21:54 That's true. It's like... You got it, yeah. It's just, you know, I wish things didn't go the way they did. It was unfortunate. It was very unfortunate. It was very unfortunate. And to be a part of something like that and to have my name drug down through the mud is crazy.
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Starting point is 01:26:41 where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So what would Murder Inc. be right now if Nas would have actually signed? Man, you know. Because what was the moment when you felt, because what was the moment when you felt like, what was this idea
Starting point is 01:27:08 even birth? Like, like Irv came to you and said, Nas is down? Like, I don't, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:13 And then he announced it on the VMAs, right? I don't know, yeah, I saw something that day. I really don't know how it came about,
Starting point is 01:27:19 to be honest, you know what I'm saying? But I know it just came about. So when you heard it? I just heard it. Like, Irvin's like, yo, Nas, we gonna get Nas a sign. Nas is gonna come and be a part of Merlake. And I was like, dope.
Starting point is 01:27:33 You know what I mean? That was dope. That's all you said? Dope. When he coming? You know what I'm saying? He's like, it's a hot. No.
Starting point is 01:27:40 You're a foul nigga, Rude. What am I supposed to say? You're supposed to say, like, I ain't gonna fight you. You're supposed to be a little more excited than that. I'll give foul nigga, bro. What am I supposed to say? You're supposed to say, he's like, he's supposed to be a little more excited than that. I'll give you an honest answer. He's being honest. He's like, I was like,
Starting point is 01:27:53 don't. It's all right, man. We coming. You know what I'm saying? Let's get it on. That's cool. Nah, nigga. Nah, let me say something.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Nas is a fucking legend in the game. So, you know, I was thinking, trust me, Nas came to my career and I had all kinds of plans. What's good,
Starting point is 01:28:07 Saddlebrook? And Saddlebrook, yeah. I was like, this is going to get Matthew Lambeau. All kinds of plans. But, yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:14 it didn't pan out. Trust me, man. I was like, we're going to tear the city up one time. We're going to come through, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:20 say, back to full one time for New York. But it didn't pan out. So, you know, that's what's happening. Why do you think it didn't pan out. So, you know, those things happen. Why do you think it didn't pan out? Because no one actually... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Nas decided to do something different. You know what I mean? Like, it was going to happen, and then it didn't happen. You know what I mean? So I don't really know why it didn't happen or what happened. But what happens if it didn't happen? Let's just play futuristic. Hypothetical.
Starting point is 01:28:46 You want hypothetical shit. Yeah. That shit, well, we gonna do hypothetical shit, nigga. I mean, we do a time of the world. Goddamn, get a billionaire by now. Shit, that's it. We gonna do hypothetical about shit. That's it.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Yeah. Have more money than Oprah, nigga. Yeah. If me and Nas got together, shit. Damn, that change the game. I'm on one of the open it Well Smoking on that good though. We gonna give Graff a good... Come on dawg right here. How you been nigga? You good? What part of... Come on. Do we have a chair?
Starting point is 01:29:36 We got a mic right there. Give him a chair and a mic. Put Graff in the hot seat. These motherfuckers... Queens is out and I'm in Miami. I don't like that, but okay. I'm gonna stall that. No, it's always happening. Alright, look, now.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Now look, now look. On that side. It's gonna be on that side, probably. I'm introducing you to... This is... What is this called, Diego? That one was a... This is called a... Oh, it's a step up? This is... See, yesterday, Norrie told me how to pick cigars. What is this called Diego? Or the step up this is yesterday nori told me how to pick cigars I'm the new Sean Beckers. I'm the new Sean Beckers. Yeah, yeah, Sean Beckers better relax.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Grab the golf camera. Yeah, yeah, you get mic'd up. I got you, Graf. Listen, when you ready, I got you. So, Rue. Right there. Where did you and X, great friends, where did you feel like that moment with rent wrong but what you what you to to to me in the door yeah I mean it has to has to
Starting point is 01:30:56 be you know me this funny man in the, it's like brothers having, you know what I'm saying, arguments and fights and shit, and we see each other, we're cool. Yeah, but y'all brothers and arguments, fights was worldwide. But we always seen each other, it was cool. That's the shit that people don't understand, you know. Ex will go off and say his crazy shit. You know, I'm, you know, I'd say my shit. And then we'd see each other and it'd be cool. We'd laugh and smoke some weed and laugh.
Starting point is 01:31:36 We have a different relationship. We have a weird relationship. Every time we see each other, it's love. Huh? What the hell? What did he say? Every time we see each other, it's love. What the hell? What did he say? Oh, the cut. I was like, the sound guy is talking right now.
Starting point is 01:32:00 That was good. Yeah, that's what's up, man. Same shit. I'll tell you, man. So what's this shit I told him about? That's that boomer. Yeah, you got to take two and a half shots of that just to get on our level right now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Just to get on our level right now. You got to take two and a half. Two and a half. I'm with you, though. Let me get a... You got it right there, right there. You can take the little cup, too. You can pour it in this shit.
Starting point is 01:32:22 This is Drink Champs. They went soft for me. You see they got champagne and wine. We ain't it in this shit. This is Drink Champs. They went soft for me. You see they got champagne and wine. We ain't never gone soft, John. Come on. Real hot, buddy. We'll take our dishes. Take four. Damn, we did four today?
Starting point is 01:32:37 We blowin' up. We got takes, man. You ready? No, but let me ask you real quick. Real quick, real quick. I want to know, how serious was the Murder Inc. group? Oh, shit, man. What are you fucking questioning? Because as a mix, look, I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 01:32:57 I want to give you some backstory real quick. We're doing a real quick job. As a mixtape DJ, I was getting the datAT tapes from the Def Jam guys and it said Murder Inc. and it was BMX, Jay-Z and Ja. I have all those joints, I'll bring them. Like if it's court, I'll bring them. I got the DAT tapes. From KRS-One.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I got them, I got them. So how serious was the groove? Was it gonna happen album wise? Cause I got him, I got him. I'm 88, he's got it. So how serious was the group? I love that. Was it going to happen, album-wise? Because I got tracks. I don't think it was ever going to fully happen. Four shots. It was never really going to happen? I don't think it was ever going to happen.
Starting point is 01:33:34 I'm on number two. And I don't think it was ever going to happen because... No, it took a whole team. You got to pull from... Take that one and pull from... No, you got to relax, buddy. We're talking about hip-hop history, and you're talking about shots. You need to relax, buddy. We're talking about hip-hop history. And you, you're talking about shots.
Starting point is 01:33:45 You need to relax, buddy. I was trying to construct this show. The fans are not going to like you right now. They definitely don't like me. No. I'm sorry. Please tell me about this hip-hop history job. I'm going to relax.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I don't think it was ever going to happen. At all? From the beginning? Somebody. Wait, wait. Listen, man. It was, you know, to get those records that you got out of us. You had like five. It was like 13.
Starting point is 01:34:12 No, I don't think it was even five. It was like 13. No, I mean if you put the collective together between me, XJ, JXJ, B, B, J. No, no, but all three all together? All three was together. There was probably like three. There was like maybe three or four. Because I put them all on my face. But everybody wasn't like, that was all like, I mean, maybe a little bit above each other.
Starting point is 01:34:35 We were all fucking egomaniacs. Wait, what was the order in which Earth assigned you guys to Dem Jam? I was the only group on the egomaniac list. You know what I'm saying? Them two was already egomaniacs at the time. Big up to little Wayne once again. Oh, my God. He got the trophy cup.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Bambo. My G. And you know that's the smallest shot. That's the smallest shot. That's my second one. Catch up. That's awesome. Thanks, Dwayne.
Starting point is 01:35:06 You didn't get my outfit, motherfucker. How you going to blame me to get out of there? I was nowhere near you, nigga. Nigga, you motherfucker. That was great, man. That shit's smooth. Let me see how far y'all come. It's very smooth.
Starting point is 01:35:23 You got any napkins around the smoke? Go ahead. No, you're lying. You got a napkins around the smoke button? No. You're lying. You got a towel or something around the first? We're making Drink Champs. I've never been asked for a napkin. Drink Champs bibs coming soon.
Starting point is 01:35:31 History. You gotta tell me. Y'all got a fucking kid. Do we got napkins? Nah. You don't have to go to the bathroom. Nah, it's okay. I don't even think there's napkins in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:35:39 That shit's worth the run. No, you're good. You're good. They got me strapped up. Yeah, you're good. We'll get you some napkins. Come on. Wepped up. Yeah, we'll get you some jackets. Come on, we'll have somebody go to the bathroom for you. Hold on, man, let's get moving.
Starting point is 01:35:50 You're good, you're good. He said he wants to make moves. We don't know what to do now. We're going to the graphtop. This shit is all right, brother. Are you smoking? No, I was a big shot Oh
Starting point is 01:36:08 We touch time we gotta go that route. Oh no last shot. That's the last shot of the night I'm beyond something I miss my flight. Oh you gotta go. Yo, you you cannot miss your flight, bro Let's go do not do that the fat draft yesterday No drunk. Are you throwing that out there? It was thrown out there yesterday. It's in chronological order, my friend. Nah, I'm gone. I'm gone.
Starting point is 01:36:32 I'm awake. Just go drunk. Fuck it. Graff, what up, dog? I'm done as a woman, man. Graff, stay friendly down, too. Yo, Graff came to a funeral happy. I don't understand how that happened.
Starting point is 01:36:41 What? Oh, no, I got to smoke. You came to a funeral. You said you didn't want to be mad at a funeral. Nah, see, I can't do this sad shit. I? Oh no, I got to smoke. You can't do a funeral. You said he don't want to be mad at a funeral. No, see, I can't do the sad shit. I got to drink, smoke, and leave the funeral with a different mind state. I'd be fucked up on that.
Starting point is 01:36:51 So you went to a funeral. Yeah, my uncle passed away, man. Oh, God bless. God bless. God bless. Yeah. Condolences. So when I come to see y'all, it's uplifting, man.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Grab. Let me just throw you something. He's got liquor, weed. What is this called? What is this called, Diego? He's trying to put grab on to these. This is called a tabac. Right. Now look. What I smoked yesterday, what was that? That was an acid.
Starting point is 01:37:09 That was a block. I like that. You did acid yesterday. I don't know what you doing with Nori, bro. You did acid with Nori. I don't know. I stopped smoking cigarettes. I'm a cigar nigga now. Look, look. You let me know when you ready. You stopped smoking cigarettes. You did're ready. You stopped smoking cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:37:25 You did? Yeah, I stopped smoking. Let's get up for a new one. Stop smoking cigarettes one time. This is like, this is how many times, this is how many times now. Now, he's legit. He legit quit. I just, you got to be kidding me.
Starting point is 01:37:39 Now, John, he legit quit. I could call somebody. How long? It's been a while. It's been like over a year. Over a year. Over a year. That's a real quit. That's a real quit. Big boy joint?
Starting point is 01:37:48 This is big boy. I don't think he ever lasted over a year. Nah, and I've been around. He never lasted over a year. You never lasted over a year. Yeah, what are you talking about? Stop lying. Now you're laughing over here. I never lasted over a year before.
Starting point is 01:37:59 I got a cut up. Yeah, you know. You know. You know what I'm saying? I got a cut up. I got a... Motherfucker. I don't do it. Yo, so is Joc. I just what I'm saying? I got a color. I got a, um. Motherfucker. I don't believe it. Yo, so it's Ja.
Starting point is 01:38:07 I just found a new pork box. He's dedicated. I'm bringing him over shit. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I gotta relax. You gotta relax, Ja. You gotta.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Hey, I'll tell you. I'm gonna hit you with it next time if you have a tough question. No, no. You gotta say, you gotta relax. No, no, no. You my nigga, Ja. Let me tell you something. Bring him over shit.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Lighter. Lighter? Damn. You got to be kidding me. You got to be, no. You gotta say, you gotta relax. No, no, no, no. You my nigga, child. Let me tell you something. What's wrong with you? Lie, lie that. A lighter? Damn, I ain't gonna lie. I had a good lighter.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Who took my good lighter? One of y'all niggas took my good lighter. Oh, right here, right here, right here. You going to the spot that I know it? Oh, you got me. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. I like this shit. Come on, man, you gotta come.
Starting point is 01:38:40 I'm not gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. That was the bullshit, right? God. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Yo, I like that. I'm not gonna lie! I ain't... I'm not gonna lie! I'm not gonna lie! I'm not gonna lie! What you got to do?
Starting point is 01:38:52 I got a 6am flight! Yo, he's not gonna lie to you bro! Let me just tell you something, I'm gonna be honest with you. He just said he's not gonna make the flight, but he's not gonna lie to you! No, no, listen. We all Queens niggas. I'm gonna be honest with you. No, you, no listen we all queens niggas. No, I'm beyond no you guys Can do is Queens anyway
Starting point is 01:39:14 Cut it I cut it. You can cut it. Oh, so now you got a brother. This is drink chance, baby We got some whatever you want, bro. What do you want? Please whatever you want, bro. What do you want? You want some cocaína? Hazardous sounds. Cocaína, please. But listen. They're asking for it. After us, we went to New York. We were supposed to have Nicki Minaj. Are you going to throw this out there right now?
Starting point is 01:39:36 We were supposed to have Nicki Minaj. It didn't happen? We love her. Our sister. Our peoples. But it didn't happen? It didn't happen. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:46 So we had to come out here. We had to grind. Are you talking about now or right now? Right now. So I called Ja Rule. Ja said, yo, you know I don't do interviews. I'm going to get Nikki. But he said, you know I don't do interviews.
Starting point is 01:40:01 And I said, Ja, I need this. I said, I need this. You told Ja about it. I told her. I said, you know I don't do interviews. And I said, John, I need this. I said, I need this. You told me about it. I said, I got you. Did you see? No, I had to twist your arm a little bit. It wasn't that easy. Just to be clear.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Just to be clear. You didn't have a good experience the first time with us? He had a fantastic experience. I remember hanging out with you afterwards, man. That was crazy. You were wilding out. I don't do interviews. I don't do interviews. I haven't peeped after you said. You were wilding out. I don't do interviews. I don't do interviews.
Starting point is 01:40:26 I haven't peeped after you said that. Where are the mother? I don't do interviews. But you was cool the first time. Absolutely great interview. See, here's the thing with interviews, right? Because this is not an interview, by the way. This is a conversation.
Starting point is 01:40:37 We talking shot, damn it. This is a conversation. We talking shot. It's different. But the thing with interviews is like, never mind, it doesn't even matter. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Say your mind. Speak your mind. No, no, no. God, this is Jake Chan. This is your platform, man. Listen, listen, listen. Just in case you never talk again and you never do an interview again,
Starting point is 01:40:58 we need to document why you're saying what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. This is it. I would love to have you. Now, some shit you go to your grave with.
Starting point is 01:41:05 No. I ain't mad at that.. Nah, I ain't mad at that. Facts. I ain't mad at that. He's a media guy now. Nah, we got that. Let me just tell you something, man. You know one of the craziest things I've noticed as an artist is sometimes we'll jump to the biggest thing that's happening, right?
Starting point is 01:41:30 Right. And then you won't go to the actual thing. Like, that's our fault as black people. Like, if this is the black mall or this is the white mall, we'll actually say, you know what? Hermes is in the white mall will actually say you know what Hermes is in the white mall so I'm gonna go there when it's just like you know you should be at the black mall they got her as a blooming dance but none of us really think like and that's what I want to do. That's what I want to do with me.
Starting point is 01:42:06 In my opinion, when you look at hip-hop media, or you look at any media, when you look at a sports show, it should be Jim Jones hosting that sports show. Oh, excuse me, a weather show.
Starting point is 01:42:20 When you see Jim Jones doing the weather shit, like, Jim Jones should control hip-hop weather You know I'm the only nigga that didn't laugh. Because I'm dead serious. No, he mean it. I'm dead serious. He is dead serious. Jadakiss, he talks about basketball so much.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Like, you think, God bless Max Kellerman. God bless Stephen A. Smith. But if Jadakiss was sitting there with Styles P and Shea Blanch and a white girl, whatever white girl it is, and they're doing the fucking first take, would you really watch first take? Yo, let me tell you something. You know, I'm going to tell you some fucking real shit. And I love first take. You know, I'm going to tell you some fucking real shit, nigga. Did I hit it on the nose? Nigga. Can you tell me can you tell me that I thought about it we start off with that and I thought about doing it with me and you know me you know me
Starting point is 01:43:34 you and Zeno at the worst comes about that idea of a sports show me Yo, I watched fucking Undisputed first every fucking day. And if you right, it's Shannon and Skip. Shannon and Skip. If hip hop niggas did that same fucking shit, it would be off the fucking chain. You gotta bring Dream Chat Sports, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Dream Chat Sports. He's in the big three right now. He's in New York right now. He's in New York right now. Kenny Anderson and Paul. Paul's in New York right now with the Big 3. And they just talking sports. I wouldn't watch. No disrespect. What I'm saying is
Starting point is 01:44:12 every other culture controls their media. This is how you control the actual aspect of everything. It's controlling the media. So now, alright, cool. We got Dream Chat. Now, Dream Chat, you're a legend. You got 10 years in the game. So now I cool we got drink chance now drink chance your legend You got ten years in the game you come on here, right? That's great. We got that part. Well, what about me? It's a young big got expand. What about the fucking sports? What about the fucking?
Starting point is 01:44:37 Passion what about all that? I think we should never get media from outside of our culture. That's real And we go about to do that. We're not gonna disclose like god bless I think we should never get media from outside of our culture. That's real shit, though. You know what I'm saying? And we're about to do that. We're not going to disclose it. God bless it. We're not going to disclose it, but we're about to do that. I know Apple is going to fuck me up right now. Apple?
Starting point is 01:44:55 Apple, because when I see Zane Lowe, and I see Kendrick Lamar go to Zane Lowe first, and I see Ricky Manal. And he was supposed to be here. He was supposed to be here. I get it. Go to Zane Lowe. And I said he was supposed to be here he was gonna be there go to Zane Lowe and I'm like I cool I get it maybe they praying 150,000 maybe they're saying they paying they're saying you know what but you can't pay for culture bro you cannot pay for culture if Kendrick came in no come on really well no you know what? That actually makes sense. That makes sense. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I don't know who Zane Lowe is. That makes sense. And I'm being completely wrong. No, no, no. That makes sense. I'm not even with you. His point is being made by that. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:35 No, I'm dead serious. He's a big dude in Apple. He's got that big... He does his interviews. He does podcasts. I'll tell you who Zane Lowe is. Zane Lowe is the guy when Drake does an interview. Zane Lowe is the guy.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Because it's connected to Apple Music, and it's like a part of that machine. Nicky does the interview. Kendrick does the interview. I'm good. I listen to my dude. I don't hate nobody at all. I'm okay. No, there's nothing against the dude.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Not at all. I ain't against him. I ain't against Apple. I ain't against none of that. But when I sit back And I say that I said damn This is not the Culture controlling the culture
Starting point is 01:46:08 This is payola Like and what I mean by that Payola is It's real shit It's real shit If you sign the Apple You gotta go see the Apple The key word you said
Starting point is 01:46:19 Is controller Control That's why I said I get it I understand I never even thought about it It's John sitting over here Like what the fuck Nah that's not I get it too Listen it. I understand. I never even thought about it. It's Josh sitting over here like, what the fuck? Nah, that's enough.
Starting point is 01:46:26 I get it too. Listen, but this is real shit. I hear what you're saying, but it's a tough thing. It's a tough thing. This is one of our backdoor conversations with me and you talking on the phone. This ain't for the drink champs. Nah, nah, you got it. Put it on the drink champs.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Nah, nah, nah. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't for the drink champs. This ain't what Jake's ass. This is a side conversation. This is what Jake's ass. But it's real, though.
Starting point is 01:46:47 But it's real because you know why? I'm going to be honest. I'm really successful. Like, I really did my thing. And then I chose to take this other side. So any artist, whether it's Kanye, they should kind of come see me first. Nigga I don't need you but I'm here for you.
Starting point is 01:47:10 And I understand you more than anybody else in the world. That's a fact. From Kanye to Jay to whoever to Nicki y'all should come see me.
Starting point is 01:47:20 You see my intros when I interview a nigga I give you the best intro in the world. Nigga, and sometimes... Because you coach it. And then sometimes, it's a nigga that I give you an intro that I know I did better than you in life.
Starting point is 01:47:36 But I'm going to give you the intro that you did better than me in life. But all right, hold on. Hold on, nigga. Hold on, I'm answering questions. All right, I'm in. I'm in. You know, this is velvet. Is it about them coming to you first?
Starting point is 01:47:51 I don't care about first. Or not coming at all? I don't care about first. I don't care about not coming. I care about supporting the culture. This is the only culture. So you feel like, yo, they ain't coming to support Drink Chat. They ain't coming to support Drink Chat. Drink Chat should be looked at as the barbershop.
Starting point is 01:48:06 And the barbershop is the epitome of the culture. I'm going to be honest. You know the first person? You know the first person? Oh, the source, nigga. You know the first person? Oh, the source. It is the source.
Starting point is 01:48:15 You know the first person? Shout out to Dave Mays and Ben Z. I saluted crazy was when Swiss Beats came to see me the next day. Because you came to my album release party. Swiss Beats came to see me the next day because you came to my album release party Swiss beats came to see me the next day and was like yo, you know, we came hang out and then The next day he went cold epic and told him you're one of my first interviews I want to do is drink champs right that to me was like that was the final that's what I Deserved Was like that was the final that's what I deserve I'm not no corny nigga. Yeah, come on. Hey, and if you're a niggas because I want to
Starting point is 01:48:51 But I don't think I think you're looking at it, you know saying not you really all the way Which aspect an aspect is I don't think they have anything against your chance. I Think the culture love motherfucking drink champs. I think so too every artist Every but they love drink champs. It's just that Treat share is to why not be suited for every Understand You gotta understand that. If you wasn't my brother, I don't do dream champs. No, that's absolutely correct. That's right.
Starting point is 01:49:30 That's right. You know what is true? This show is like... You understand what I'm saying? And they got to be real on this show. You can't make it fly. People are afraid to be on dream champs. I've been telling that.
Starting point is 01:49:38 I go to the barbershop and they're like, why did this artist not do dream champs? They ain't scared to do dream champs. But you gotta understand that. Your platform is your platform. And it's becoming a fucking huge platform. But hit me up.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Hit me up. It's like going on Stern. Like, nigga. I'm about to say that. Like, how is Stern right now? Everybody don't want to go on there all the time. No, but hit me up. Hit me up.
Starting point is 01:50:03 As an artist, you fucking me. Yeah. I might know some dirt on you. I'm not going to go on there all the time. Hit me up, hit me up. As an artist, you fuck with me. I might know some dirt on you, I'm not gonna bring it up. It's not about that. So a lot of artists feel like, Nah, I don't think it's about the dirt. It's not about the dirt. It's about the wrongness.
Starting point is 01:50:18 It's the wrongness. It's the wrong questions. No, it's just. Nori Yeager can ask a fucking artist because he's a fucking artist! That's right, that's right. I don't think he gets that. Yeah, it's true. He's not a media guy.
Starting point is 01:50:41 He's fucking... No, he is a media guy. Rapid He's not a media guy. He's fucking... No, he is a media guy. Rapid turn media, and that's the problem. He's Noriega, man. I don't give a fuck what... You don't stop moving my drink. I think you put on... This nigga's Noriega, man.
Starting point is 01:50:58 I know this nigga. And he's... Yo, he's going to ask these type of questions because he knows the art, he knows us, he fucks with us, he's our nigga. After this we gonna smoke some blood, we gonna fucking hang out at the club one time, stupid shit. Call him on the phone, nigga, we gotta take that out of him. Nah, we gotta take it out of shit.
Starting point is 01:51:17 We go through all this shit after this. You know what I'm saying? You don't get to go through that. You don't get to go through that. You don't get to go through that. You don't get to go through that with these other niggas. He called me on my bullshit. He killed that. He killed that. He killed that.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I love you, my nigga. You got to be honest and open, and every artist is not going to do that. Nah, I'm not going to lie, Graff. I let niggas lie to me, though. You do? A couple of times, I look at a nigga, I'm not gonna lie graph. I let this lie to me though. You know a couple of times Master flex call me On the show bro. Nah, I'll be honest I had the most honest craziest conversation with my Flex because, you know, usually you call a person, you know, there's three times you ring.
Starting point is 01:52:09 So for some strange reason, I called him. He's like, what's up, Larry? I was like, oh, shit, I wasn't even ready. I was ready for him to, like, skip the call. This nigga was like, what's up, Larry? How you doing? I was like, oh, shit, I had nothing to say. I'm like, yo, what's up, Flex?
Starting point is 01:52:27 And then he just vented to me. And it made me understand where New York City is at and why New York City is at this certain level. And Flex is one of the most honest people. And he reminds me of you. Of me? Because you're the most stubbornest nigga I know. Relax, it's a great thing. Now, if we're gonna go there, I'm gonna tell you something right now.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Yeah. Because everything you guys, I come here and I'm on the sideline and it's everything New York, but mind you guys, hip hop is bigger than motherf everything New York. But mind you guys, hip-hop is bigger than motherfucking New York. Definitely not the case I was trying to make. No, I don't know. This is true. It's the tip of my shoulder. It's the tip of my shoulder.
Starting point is 01:53:13 This is true. I'm trying to let you guys know. Let's limit your copies. Yeah, I got to know. God damn it. My tip is not that far. You see that? You see that?
Starting point is 01:53:22 He's exit on the hard shit. No, no, no. We know you're going to bring it back, man. Well, you know what know what actually I want to ask job yeah what demographics of the United States did you realize was fucking with you other than New York I didn't cuz I feel like it's not gonna go to I didn't break in New York would you break really and you think? And let me tell you. No, no, wait, wait, wait. You know.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Because you know this shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm a DJ, so relax. You know. Go, go, go. So when I first came out with Holla Holla and shit, we wasn't really getting that kind of love. You know what I'm saying, on the East Coast. So we went out to L.A., Power 105.
Starting point is 01:54:16 My brother was, Demizza was the program director at the time. You remember Demizza? Yeah. He was the program director. Demizza champion the program director Demezza championed that record Demezza took Holla Holla
Starting point is 01:54:28 and fucking just destroyed it on the west coast hence you see I'm in the video I'm on the west coast in the 64
Starting point is 01:54:37 I'm like yo these niggas are showing me the love I'm going out to shoot my video you know what I'm saying so Lior gets on the phone with...
Starting point is 01:54:47 Well, that wasn't Lior's vision? No. The West Coast wasn't his vision for you? No, this was us moving and shaking. I swear to God, he's the fastest peeing guy in the world. Yeah, I gotta go real quick. Oh, no. But, yo, we was trying to get it popping wherever we could get it popping.
Starting point is 01:55:05 East Coast wasn't playing my shit. We went out west. Power 105, Demizza, big shout to Demizza. He showed us the love and started banging the record. So now Demizza's
Starting point is 01:55:15 banging the record. It starts spreading. You know how it go. West Coast, LA started playing, Oakland, down to San Fran. You know how that go, just like fucking East Coast, you know, Baltimore, Virginia, D.C., West Coast LA started playing Oakland down the sand friend you know how that go
Starting point is 01:55:26 just like fucking East Coast you know Baltimore Virginia DC same type of shit so Leo
Starting point is 01:55:32 basically called Tracy at the time Tracy he's like yo Tracy how the fuck are you
Starting point is 01:55:43 not playing Ja Rule? He's breaking on the West, and he's an East Coast artist. Dang. Next thing you know, we start getting them spins on I-97. Because it's true. It's like, yo, how are you letting the West Coast break an East Coast artist? That's a fact. We gave y'all these, we right here in y'all backyard.
Starting point is 01:56:10 I reckon we took them out. We took them out of the gate. That's a gate. Let me say this too, because me, like, I watched y'all coming up and didn't even know that type of fact. But in my, when I started grinding, trying to push records you had to leave New York They just shit pop it soon because New York wasn't supporting New York. That was later, but that became a Sort of here that I thought French was the introduction to that. Nah, I'm not. Think about how much. They did not support. I thought French was. Think about how much niggas from my time broke in other states.
Starting point is 01:56:48 They didn't break here. Niggas didn't break here. I mean, New York. Here ain't New York. I didn't know that. Come on, guys. I represent Miami, guys. I'm talking about here is Miami, guys.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Let me tell you, that's why I had such a big love. And I was like, yo, you know what? I'm going to go out west, make my album and shit. The vibe is out there. They're banging my records. And it's a death row connection as well. Let's be real. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:57:10 I mean, there was. I'm just saying there was. We didn't have a death row connection at that time. Oh, no. At that time at all? Not from the beginning of it? No, no, no. We didn't know Suge or none of them at that time.
Starting point is 01:57:19 That was way later. This is my second album. We went out west. You know what I mean? We got to clarify something. We bought the crib out there What are we clarifying at some point? Should try to sign you yeah
Starting point is 01:57:36 Sure no He shouldn't God he was cool, and it was a whole lot going on and shege tried to fucking... Did he buy you a 6-4? Oh. Jesus. I heard, I heard... Buying presents and shit? That was my 6-7. I bought a 6-7
Starting point is 01:57:53 at a continental suicide door. That was my shit. Nah, see? Yeah, Suge never... Nah. That was the rule, man. See? This is why...
Starting point is 01:58:01 This is why we gotta come up. We gotta clear it up on drinks. Yeah, he's just like, hold on, hold on. That was Norris' rumor. And got to clear it up on drinks. Yeah, he's just like, hold on, hold on. That was Norris' rumor. And we got to clear it up on drinks. Where's my room number, man? Yeah, where's your room number? Did I spread that rumor?
Starting point is 01:58:11 It couldn't be me. I'm sorry. Hey, my head would make some noise if you spread that rumor. I was nervous at the time because I lived next door to you. And then you was hanging out with Sugar every weekend. And I would see you on Saturdays and be like yo what's going on you saw him at the crib I mean I don't know what happened like everything we live down on block of each other this
Starting point is 01:58:38 smoke niggas like we're on the same team yeah yo you're basketball do you remember that yeah we supposed to be boss niggas at it. We was boss niggas at it. Everybody came over. They was like, the rapper niggas can't play. Oh, man. Fix them good. We fixed them. We had a game plan.
Starting point is 01:58:52 So legendary for me to hit this shit. We had a game plan. Like, ah. We could fix it. Yeah. That's crazy. Come on, man. Yeah, we used to play.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Yeah, we used to play. Yeah, we used to. Yeah, we used to. Yeah, we used to. Yeah, we used to load the rims. We dunk on these niggas, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Move, move, move. I wasn't going to say niggas too. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Woo, woo, woo. We was supposed to say that part. Woo, woo, woo. Now you make us look crazy. So what the fuck I'm supposed to say? We dunking on niggas? What dunking niggas? We were dunking on niggas.
Starting point is 01:59:12 That's hilarious. Yo, listen. I'm not going to lie. We need to move this. We just lowered the rear a little bit because we want to dunk. Not me, not me. That's hilarious. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I'm not going to lie. We need to move this. We just lowered the rear a little bit because we want to dunk. Not me, not me. That's hilarious. Yo, listen, I'm not gonna lie. We need to move this. We need to lower the river a little bit. Because we want it done. Not me, not me. I love you.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Yo, that's some fucked up shit. I ain't gonna lie, it's classy. It's classy, bro. Oh, man. Yo, you gotta come by the crib. Goddamn. We doing our... Because you got so many cribs.
Starting point is 01:59:42 No, no, no. Saddleback. Don't do, don't do, don't do, don't do, don't do, don't do. Burn a a mansion don't do that boy you know mother-in-law's right now I'm going around my brother's around there's brother out of house they burn around I don't got nothing I live in the small so good the ring you don't get the ring okay so really oh they check you know you know what they they jack my they ran up in my car, and the ring caught the whole joint. The ring was the shit.
Starting point is 02:00:06 What the fuck is the ring? The ring joint. Nas is invested in rings. Oh, ring. You don't know that? Yo, Nas made a big bag off a ring. Ring, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, ring.
Starting point is 02:00:15 So they caught the homie jumping in my car, jacking my shit. Nice. Oh, it was in the yard. And then, no, in front of my crib. And then the ring people called me like no we gonna blast this email blast The whole video they zoomed on his face ring on every man I don't know how long I get a lot of it mother and not be missing after she killed illness I was
Starting point is 02:00:47 gonna hit you and fuck that motherfucker jack my car fuck you bitch I'll kill you no no we in the state where I kill them we're gonna say we're the same ground saying that I know real talk is looking I Is looking for him and looking for me that I can see that video what happened I want to kill this ass God damn up that motherfucker. Yeah, but the way you I get the rain wasn't for you to die Well, let's be my wife now. We can see everything Y'all got right I
Starting point is 02:01:30 Fucked up. Yeah, I got some other shit, but it's like I don't learn about the dog I'm gonna pump him up the first thing that took a picture with you when you came home for jail. Yes, you was Okay, she was literally what you said man I don't know what you said right now I was the first nigga to take a picture with him when he came from jail let me just tell you something here's the crazy shit Ja Ruth came from jail so he tried to post a picture before me
Starting point is 02:01:58 he had to relax I said Ruth stop I got the wave. And I posted it, and the TMZ took my shit, but then they credited it to you. I said, hold it, boys. I said, hold it. You're still the biggest star.
Starting point is 02:02:14 God damn it. You're still the biggest star. And that's beautiful. That's beautiful. Now, you know what, y'all? That's beautiful, man, because you know what? You're one of the niggas that I was scared. scared like when you was in jail And you called me like I was scared not scared nothing saying you are like Like you know I suck on the nuts like that. I was just scared because I knew you didn't belong there
Starting point is 02:02:38 Yeah, you know I'm saying yeah, like I knew and when you call me. I will offer you money You play nigga. I'm good. Oh Yeah, like I knew and when you call me I will offer you money Good stand up You know when I went to when I went I was in state when I was instead I was in PC You know cuz you that's how state do you they put you in what they call involuntary you famous yeah involuntary protective custody because the state feels they have to protect you they don't want nothing to happen to you because you're a high-profile case go to feds tell me about you two fucks yes You know what I'm saying? They give you an option. You motherfucking stay in solitary confinement, basically in a fucking box.
Starting point is 02:03:31 You're doing 23 and 1, or you can come out. And that's what the feds do. I chose to come out and be with everybody and live, nigga. I think it's cigar time. No, no, no, no, no. It's not cigar time. I got to hear it for you. think it's cigar time. No, no, no, no, no. It's not cigar time. I got it for you. Segway.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Cigar time. It's good. It's good. Talking about the jail life. It's good. Nah, nah, nah. Jail's not something. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 02:03:52 All my young blood's coming up, man. All my brother's. It ain't good. Jail is not nothing to do with. That shit is whack shit, man. That shit is something you don't want to go through. But if you do have to be there, just know it's not the end all, be all. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:07 You can go there and elevate yourself. Change your life, yeah. Go there and learn a lot of things, read a lot of books. I read more books in jail than I've ever read in my life. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, so, usually if you are there, use your time wisely. Be there and be making, you know, here's an old whack saying, a cliche shit,
Starting point is 02:04:29 you know, do the time, I'm going to do the time, do you, shit. You know what I'm saying? But it's real shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, if you're there, you know, use yourself to be there. The person that I know, fantastic. that I know fantastic I've never seen you down
Starting point is 02:04:50 people perceive to see that but I've never seen you down but in your honest personal opinion if you could have done anything
Starting point is 02:05:00 better in your life what would it have been? you know I don't I don't regret anything. I don't think I could have done anything better. And that's an honest answer, you know, because people like to look at things that I could have done better because they want to dissect my life. I look at beginnings and endings.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Everything in the middle is, you know. It looked at beginnings and endings. Right. Everything in the middle is, you know. It ain't over yet either. Beginning, it's a poor kid
Starting point is 02:05:34 from Hollis, Queens. Right. You know, with visions of grandeur and shit. What?
Starting point is 02:05:42 Grandeur? Ending. Grandeur? I don't? Grandeur? End it. Grandeur? I don't know. But in between that, I've been able to amass a decent lifestyle for myself and my family. Put my, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:59 kids through school and my daughter through college and provide for everybody, you know. Fantastic. Shit. Those are some of the things, to me, those are big wins, you know what I'm saying, in life. You know, people look at the financial shit and whatever,
Starting point is 02:06:16 but the biggest win is I'm in the household with my kids and with my family. Those are the big wins. I got nine bedroom, too. Let's throw that out there. You got one? You ain't seen this nigga Cribs? Yeah, I just, I just, I'm just happy to be able to.
Starting point is 02:06:31 They got MTV Cribs, too. I'm just, I'm just happy to be able to be able to be in my kids' lives in the way that I am to be in their lives and to mentor them and teach them. You know, that shit to me is like what I want to project out to the public. You know, being a good father, good, you know, whatever. I've been a fucked up nigga a lot of years. You know what I mean? So don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 02:06:58 I ain't here being preachy preachy. I'm just telling you what I've grown and elevated to. You know what I'm saying? I've been that other nigga. That other nigga is dead to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm a different guy. I just want to, I just want to, you know, elevate and make money and, you know, just be a good person and shit. All this shit is like, I love to hear it. Hold on, grab. Hold on. First day he came home, I hit you or you hit me, I forget.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Right. And I pull up. And I look at your house. I'm like, damn, it's like a nine bedroom, nine bath. Nine ain't that big. It's not that big, no. It's a little graphic. 19 and a half rooms. You know, he says to me, he's like, this is his first day home.
Starting point is 02:07:51 He said, your mom's movie room ain't right. Damn! I looked at this nigga, I didn't want to say that. His movie room ain't right? He's like, yo, I'm looking at this nigga, but I can't say nothing. This is my nigga. You know what's crazy? I didn't know how to answer Your recollection I'm just like We was in the movie room So we was Telling him I should ain't right now But you know what's crazy Let me say something
Starting point is 02:08:29 The movie room Right right now The L shit The L shit That I think about When I think about The you know What I see
Starting point is 02:08:37 You know how I live The lifestyle I've been in wherever And my kids And everything I look at that shit As that's the fucking way Life is supposed to be for everybody.
Starting point is 02:08:47 My man was just telling me some ill shit about Dubai. It's supposed to be. No, it is. It's supposed to be. You're right. We're supposed to have free education, free health care. Everybody's supposed to be, you know, afforded the opportunity to be successful. And when I look at the life that we all live,
Starting point is 02:09:11 not just me, because you live a good life too, Nori. You know what I'm saying? Not a lot of bit, motherfucker. I see it, but it's good. I visit you. You know what I'm saying? But it's good. But what I'm saying is, that is the difference
Starting point is 02:09:26 Between What our Far parents Went through And what we're going through And what we're teaching our kids We're teaching our kids Like
Starting point is 02:09:36 Nigga this is This is all for you You should have this It's a given You get what I'm saying? Yeah Black privilege. This is a new shit we start.
Starting point is 02:09:50 You ever looked at... Black motherfucking privilege. You ever looked at your kids and was like, damn, nigga, do you understand what I had to do? I look at them all the time and I try to explain it to them, but they don't understand it because they didn't have to go through it. They can't understand it. They can't understand it. And you know what? How many kids you got, bro? I don't want them to understand it. How many't understand it. They can't understand it. Wait. And you know what? How many kids you got, bro?
Starting point is 02:10:05 I don't want them to understand it. How many kids you got? I'm like, you know what? Everybody's supposed to. You got twins? Twins? Why the girl? Ah, I love twins.
Starting point is 02:10:13 Ah, that's dope. What age? I just started turning 13. 13. 13? Oh. So you're starting to realize. Now, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Show the mic. Show the mic. Show the mic. No, no, no. Who you more scared for I'm more scared for my daughter to be honest because I mean I'm close to both of them and I get them both all information I acquired and try to teach them the best I can but I just want to move as smart as she can and not get tricked by none of the dumb shit my son I feel he gonna handle himself even though I'm scared of him too but only on like the he's so smart he I'm more scared for the boys.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Because the society and the police shit or what? What do you mean? You have a smart daughter. That's why. No, no, no. My boys are smart too. I'm just scared for them because... See, women...
Starting point is 02:11:23 Things are being laid out and... things are being looked upon as these we're gonna help women Do better things the black man is like Like the lowest niggas on the total is a fact. I know what he's a fuck like like it's just like white men white women. Black women. I don't know how it goes as far as race, but I'm gonna throw black men in there,
Starting point is 02:11:52 I mean the blacks in there. Don't forget that brown people. It's black women and then black men. We're not fucking well either, man. We're like the lowest of the two. Nobody gives a fuck about black men. Latinos is not doing good right now in the Trump industry right for everybody. But come on. Real talk. I'm putting this shit on the scale. Trump threw us under the bus. Yeah, Trump threw us under the bus.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Oh man, shit. But I'm just saying, I just feel like if we don't help our black men too, a lot of things will be done. Well, mind you,
Starting point is 02:12:34 mind you. I got this little ass coming in real quick. No, wait, wait, wait. I'm in a real car. Something to be said real quick. Because we talk all the time.
Starting point is 02:12:42 We talk about race and ethnicity. Yeah, I don't think there's ever been a drink chance like this. We got political on this thing. No, no, we talk about talk all the time we talk about race and ethnicity yeah i don't think he's ever been a drink champ like this we got political on this thing no no we're talking about all the time we kind of talk about all the time we don't get deep we don't get deep but i have to always say something right now when we talk about latinos period we are multi-ethnic Latinos. We are black, brown, everything. So just, just. We're all mixed in it.
Starting point is 02:13:08 We're all mixed in it. We're all mixed up. Grab a cup. We're all mixed up. One cup. I need one real cup. Moona, happy birthday. I love Moona.
Starting point is 02:13:15 I'm proud. It ain't cutting no more. I love Moona. Oh, shit. Am I embarrassing you? If I'm embarrassing you, I love Moona. Well, I'm taking a pee-pee. Let me get some of that shit.
Starting point is 02:13:24 You're taking pee-pees? No, really. Let me get some of that. Get one. One. Champagne. Give me some champagne. I love I love over so I'm taking up Chef champagne You out of it, okay, I got a third one for you. Oh shit. Come on Can I add this to like oh, yeah, we still recording perfect fact i think like as a um like um from the kids even me listening to y'all it's inspirational shit to like a big degree because i feel like me growing up i was rooting for the underdog or the street nigga because we never really had a chance going to school nobody taught you how to be a fucking boss yeah it taught you how to fill out application to get a job yeah so when i listen to independent niggas that made themselves
Starting point is 02:14:07 self-made, this shit always motivates me, because nobody taught you how to be self-made. You don't learn that anywhere. You got to teach yourself how to be self-made. I learned how to tie my tie on YouTube, my nigga. My father was there. How do I tie this tie? I learned it on YouTube, my nigga.
Starting point is 02:14:22 Real shit. A lot of shit on YouTube. I learned how to fight. I learned how to fight by getting fucked up nobody Figured it out. You're saying like real talk. So when I had certain shit, I get inside a little Rolex. I can't know Adjusting right gave it to my man sick. You know what said? Yes. I gave the sick and sick His wrist is Paul's bigger So when he gave back to me, I didn't know how to adjust it
Starting point is 02:14:48 so I googled it on YouTube I got another story kind of embarrassing like that like listen to this shit my first Rolex I didn't know how to set it that shit they had the wrong time for dumb long my nigga because I didn't want to tell nobody how to set this motherfucker man it's what the dial wasn't I said damn I I didn't feel confident to go say I don't know how to set this Rolex much at the wrong time for the dumb long My I said fuck I got the wrong time. Maybe that's what time it'll check on my phone Thing we put it there I had to learn. I didn't know that though. So I'm trying to set the road next to myself. I don't have a winery and a wine nerd. I got the wine. I never put it on. You got to relax, John.
Starting point is 02:15:27 I love the wine. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Give me something. Thank you. John Rule, man. You know, man, I love you, my brother. Nah, I love you.
Starting point is 02:15:35 You come to the club tonight with me too. Fuck that. I'm going to be honest. I'm not coming to the club. For an hour or two hours. I'm going to come to the club. I'm going to come to the club. I'm going to come to the club.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I'm going to come to the club. I'm going to come to the club. I'm going to come to the club. I'm going to come to the club. I'm going to come to the club. I love you. You come back up tonight with me to fuck that I'm beyond the club to for our 12 I'm gonna come to the club. You got I'm gonna have a fight 40 years old. But they don't fight nobody. No, you're gonna move Bobby Brown without cocaine. Let's make some noise for that. I don't know if I like that, nigga. I can tell you stories about Bob. Bob crazy, nigga. I'm sane, nigga.
Starting point is 02:16:16 I'm sane, nigga. And you didn't hear the Bobby Brown story. Nigga didn't hear the Bobby Brown story. Did that come out yet? Yeah, Bobby Brown shit came out? Hey, light up. Now we can get it out. Yeah, light it up. You're never going to get them wet. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 02:16:27 I think it's wet. It's usually wet now. Let me see. And big up to Mona. Happy birthday, Mona. Let's make some noise for Mona. Mona. Okay, well, let's make some noise for Mona.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Mona, does that matter? I got Mona. I do not care. Happy birthday, Mona. Listen, so, Jock. What's up, baby? some more Listen so John, what's up, baby? When you think about it, yeah You saw Jay Z in the beginning. Yeah, would you think that Jay Z would have dreads and Bob Marley? He don't even wear deodorant right now Yeah, my nigga
Starting point is 02:17:04 You wearing tea tree oils? Jay's in full true artist mode. This nigga's stupid. That was hard. He's in full true artist mode. That was hard. You know what I'm saying? And Jay got so much money right now.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Jay don't give a fuck, man. He's like, I'm doing what. Just think that he just wake up. Of course he's doing what. He don't wear deodorant. You know. But Jay's like, he's like, fuck it man. I think...
Starting point is 02:17:30 Wait, let Elliot listen to Pat real quick. Let me give you my real thought. I need to hear your real thought. Here's my real thought. He's serious right now. I'm taking a glass off my head because that takes away from seriousness. That's my thought. My real thought is... Great story, buddy. because that takes away from seriousness in my thought. Is this what you're trying to do?
Starting point is 02:17:45 My real thought is... It's all right, buddy. I think that Jay and Beyonce are doing something really amazing and impactful for our culture, our generation, our youth. And I think Jay growing his hair
Starting point is 02:18:08 is a subliminal message. I get it. They ain't going Asian. No. They ain't going black shit. Mmm. He like Jimi Hendrix, right?
Starting point is 02:18:24 I love what I'm seeing from them. Because you got to understand something, Nori. And I love LeBron James. Not because you got to understand something. You see, throughout history, you've had those that stand up and you've got those that stand down. Is the audio good? And motherfucking what I'm seeing from Jay and Beyonce and LeBron James and these type of big iconic motherfucking figures applauding their blackness.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Blackness. Are we supposed to make a noise for that? I think we should. I think we should make a noise. Because I think athletes and artists before them have been scared to do so in their position. So now, Ja Rule, selling 10 million. You sold 15,000, 55,000. 30 million. That's all good.
Starting point is 02:19:42 At 10 million. That's crazy. 30 fucking million. Would you have? . Would you have, would you have nilled? Huh? 10 million deaf dance, biggest artists in the world. Cabinet nails, would you have nilled at that, at that moment?
Starting point is 02:20:04 You know, that's, that's tough, man. And that's why I applaud. I don't know what to say. That's tough. It's a tough thing to say. That's why I applaud Colin Kaepernick. Because...
Starting point is 02:20:15 You wouldn't have nailed. But, no, no. Let me get that dirty. No, I'm... No, I'm... No, I would... You know, it's a tough thing to win.
Starting point is 02:20:24 It's a tough thing to win because some people... No, I'm asking you in a straight question. Some people fight from the inside. Some people fight from the outside. You is not in the build. I didn't get the question. It's a question. Would you have nailed...
Starting point is 02:20:37 Would you have nailed? Would you have nailed? You got 10 million. It's time for you... Like Colin Kaepernick. Would you have nailed? Like Colin Kaepernick. Yeah. Would you have said, you know what, what cat on the phone,
Starting point is 02:20:49 Nick? Yeah, 10 million, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the 10 million? Yeah. Your check had it clear? No, I would have given 40, 10 million. I would have given 40, 10 million. Yeah, that's what I'm asking, bro.
Starting point is 02:21:00 All right, that's what I'm asking. 10 million ain't enough, nigga. Yeah, 10 million ain't enough, nigga. 10 million ain't enough. Two million ain't enough, nigga. Two million ain't enough, my nigga. There is a number though, nigga. A hundred million. A hundred million. A hundred million. There is a number, nigga.
Starting point is 02:21:10 I'm like, listen, let me take care of my family and everybody with this money, nigga. Fuck y'all, nigga. We didn't ask you that, Josh. But I'm gonna tell you, nigga. Fuck y'all. There is a number that, man, you're not, nigga. No, but I'm saying, no, no, but Ojo's side. Ojo's side.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo's side. Ojo'm saying, no, no, but Ojozada. Ojozada.
Starting point is 02:21:30 I'm just saying what they're doing in this time, in this era, and what we're going through, it is like unprecedented. We haven't seen artists of this magnitude. You've never seen Michael Jackson stand up for... I'm not going to say Michael Jackson. Yeah, you can't say it.
Starting point is 02:21:48 I'm not going to say Mike. He did kind of stand up. Because Mike... He kind of stands up. But not like this. Not like LeBron. Not like Jay. Not like B.
Starting point is 02:21:59 Not like the way they're doing it. They're very candid and open about their blackness. And JV is also, they did a trailer on Martin. Yes. That documentary is amazing, by the way. This is what I'm saying. It hasn't been done like this. Yeah, he did that too.
Starting point is 02:22:17 And that is important. Yes. That is very important. Because I think for the next generation coming up it brings it brings about bravery yeah those motherfuckers ain't scared to say yo you know what it's okay for me to be unapologetically black and if you see the way they're recording these cops violating blacks the people that are recording this talking shit they feel more empowered to stand up
Starting point is 02:22:46 because of what's going on right now. You see it now. You see me, look, I'm halfway done. I'm like, I'm getting here, I'm like a pro. Put the card, grab one. My man, you know, you coming to the show tonight. Yo, now, I'm gonna be honest. Ja, Murda Akin.
Starting point is 02:22:58 You coming to the show tonight. Where's Murda Akin? They left, they all out the building. Murda Akin, you got a show tonight? Yeah. Oh my God, I feel, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna have of here. They left. They all out the building. You got a show tonight? Yeah. Oh my God. I feel, I'm so sorry. I'm going to have a drink chance.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I'm going to have a drink chance. I'm so sorry. I almost had some drinks. Good job. This nigga ain't coming. This nigga ain't coming. This nigga ain't coming. This nigga ain't coming.
Starting point is 02:23:16 No he ain't. I'm going with Dory. Listen. He's going with Graf. Listen. Listen. Listen. I'm not drinking Pinot Grigio for arcade money.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Keep it real. No you put the. That was your segue? Yeah. Listen, but listen. I'm not drinking Pinot Grigio for our K-Drama. That was your segue from the political shit? Just do it, Josh. Can you clarify? Yo, we went from like gotta stop the badness.
Starting point is 02:23:40 I'm trying to appreciate something. Yo, this is why I don't do interviews. No, this is why I don't do interviews. No, this is why you do Drink Champs, though. Yo, I never noticed that until you said it. Yo, Ja, we appreciate you at Drink Champs, by the way. Drink Champs, let me just tell you something, man. Ja, bro.
Starting point is 02:23:57 You were the part of the beginning of Drink Champs, and we thank you. I love Drink Champs. Let me tell you something. Thank you. What the fuck is that? The Joker. Yo. Yo, we don't like that line, buddy. I put my size better on this chick, and my license is weird. I can get the fuck...
Starting point is 02:24:11 This is about... I got mad blunts. That's cool. This is Fat Joe. I got five blunts and chillin'. These things crazy. This shit has came on up. Is that really...
Starting point is 02:24:19 I got five blunts and chillin'? Trick or treat. We knew that. No one has 20,000 blunts. I'm telling you. This is Fat Joe. This is Fat Joe. This is Fat Joe. That's a big name. Came on up. Is that really? They got five months of chilling? Drink Chips.
Starting point is 02:24:27 We knew that. No one has 20,000 more. I'm telling you. It's Fat Joe, there's Ja Rule, there's Jadakiss, and there's K-N-S. That's an amazing name. That's the first two episodes of Drink Chips. Nah, that episode was one of the pivotal episodes for Drink Chips. I put my glasses on.
Starting point is 02:24:35 I think I look like ridiculously high at this moment, don't I? Nah, you look high with the glasses on, by the way. Cool guy, Ja. I love you, my brother. Hey, I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother.
Starting point is 02:24:43 I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother. I love you, my brother. at this moment, don't I? Nah, you look high with the glasses on, by the way. Cool guy, John. I love you, my brother. Yeah, I love you, too. Let me just tell you something. You got a light over there? And for you to, yeah, you got a light.
Starting point is 02:24:56 You took my light like 17 times. I did. But that was it. One more. 18. You got it. And look, I'm going to take your rope. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 02:25:05 Your rope, yeah. This is old blood. But, John, you stood there in the test of time. You stood there in the W Hotel with us. Right, The Other? Yo, that was an epic fucking episode of Drink Chance, man.
Starting point is 02:25:23 I still can't remember if John came on time or Jadak came on time. No, I'm always on time. No, wait. Can I be honest? Can I be honest about that episode? Let's be honest about that episode. It was supposed to be two episodes. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:36 No, no. No, I'm telling you. I'm telling you right now. It's supposed to be a Ja episode and Jadak's episode. Right. But it was good together. But y'all ended up coming at the same time. It was better together. No, it was amazing
Starting point is 02:25:48 because the thing is, for me, I'm a mixtape DJ, so to me, that's a mixtape. Let me tell you, that was like a collab. It was amazing. For interview, that was like some new shit. We don't do interviews at Drink Chance. For the conversation. It's a collaboration.
Starting point is 02:26:06 Collaboration. Yes. Y'all, that was like a new kind of segue. Like, okay. No, that was amazing. Thank you, man. We got John and Jada. It was our first one.
Starting point is 02:26:16 No, that was our first double up. First double up. Yeah. But that's nice because, yo, you realize, because that's like a collaboration. That's like, yo, all right, let's bring, and then the stories collide. And then we hung with him in the Ferraris.
Starting point is 02:26:29 It got weird, bro. It got weird. It got weird. It got weird with you, bro. I'll be honest. Yo, but you got three different artists on the panel that all got history. I'll be honest. That night, you took advantage of me because you had the I8.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Yeah, you got weird on us, man. Yeah, he was like, you don't know me. What'd I do? You were out of on me. you went you got weird on this man You got super far You was high street to 30 seconds, yes, baby this ride I don't know. What do you think I am? I'm not built with it Yes, baby this ride You had the other level man, all right,. Let's do one more boom boom. I can't do boom boom. The boom boom money's on me. No, my god. I need a real glass. Get a real glass. I need a real glass.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Yo, you're going to really do this, bro? One more boom boom. We got it. Oh, my god. We got it. One more boom boom. One more boom boom. Let's get it.
Starting point is 02:27:39 Boom boom boom. That's your fault, John. It's your fault, bro. I'm going to do it. Yo, Mac May. Yes. All right. We up. Pass me the. Yo, Mac Mane. Yes? All right.
Starting point is 02:27:45 We up. Pass me the. Yo, Mac Mane, if this is your part of the boom, boom, boom movement, Mac Mane. It's that baby, bro. It's Mac Mane, all full. Mac Mane, what up, though? This shit working.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Yeah. No, it's nice, though. It's nice. No, it's a good drink. All right, that's cool. Oh, yo, you can't go all the way, baby. Yeah. Yeah, my man, my man, my man.
Starting point is 02:28:03 That shit good, but yo, god damn, I got to, listen. I feel like I'm fucking on drugs right now, bro. Baby That's okay I'm like a professional. You such a fucking legend, Joc. You are though. All right, so last drink of the night. I take the total. Last drink of the night. I take the total. To the legend. Salute. Cheers. Salute. Salute.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute, my brother. I don't mind. Salute. It's Christmas. It's my last one.
Starting point is 02:28:36 Let's go. I swear to God. Yo, that's it. We're out of here after this. It's my last one. That's smooth. Terrible. That shit is smooth.
Starting point is 02:28:42 Woo! That shit will fuck you up, because it's so smooth. It's like Kool-Aid. Yeah, whatever. Great story, buddy. But Joc. It's like Kool-. That shit is smooth. I should have fucked you up because it's so smooth. It was like Kool-Aid. Yeah, whatever. Great story, buddy. Kool-Aid with a kick. Brown Kool-Aid. Was you amazed after you performed with JLo?
Starting point is 02:28:51 Because by the way, you killed that. Thank you, my bro. That was a good show. I knew you performed with JLo. It was just like a child in his time. Everybody was just like, I see every dream, every leg. And I also, it was a part of me, I was like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.
Starting point is 02:28:59 I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. It was just like, it was like a child's time. Everybody was just like, I see every, every like, and I also, there was a part of me that was like, yeah, fuck that.
Starting point is 02:29:12 My nigga deserved that. Thank you, my nigga. And, because you could've complained, you could've been like, Complained about what? I'm like, you know what I'm saying? You could've, you could've, you could've disemboweled shit, but you stood there.
Starting point is 02:29:28 What could I complain about? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. No, hit me out, y'all. So, you stood there, you stood there for the test of time, and you, and you relaxed. I love my niggas memories, man. And you relaxed. And now that's real shit, because a lot of niggas would've lost their money.
Starting point is 02:29:40 It was good, it was good. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna man. And you relaxed. And now I'm not spoiled shit, cause a lot of niggas would have lost their money. It was good, it was good. I had fun man. I had fun.
Starting point is 02:29:52 Right. I had fun. I'm going to tell you. Tell me please. This is my last, this is the last story. The last jambalaya. Because y'all wasn't, because. This is one Tiger Bone shot.
Starting point is 02:30:02 Oh we do a Tiger Bone? I'm going to tell you. No, no, no. Relax, relax, relax. I'm going to tell you how to. I got you. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last Jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya.
Starting point is 02:30:16 The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The last jambalaya. The ass shot. Me and J-Lo did it. In the VMAs? Yeah. It was fantastic. That was amazing. I got to give you props for that.
Starting point is 02:30:28 I'm going to tell you what happened. Okay, tell me. That ass was amazing? You have a rehearsed act for me? No, no, no, no, no. I want to tell you how- How amazing the ass was? No.
Starting point is 02:30:36 But the ass was amazing. Not you too, man. I'm sorry, bro. I'm drunk too, bro. I got to go in. I got to go in. Jesus Christ, man. Stop, man.
Starting point is 02:30:44 You know, what I want to say about the ass shot, this is the too bro, I gotta go in, I gotta go in. Jesus Christ, man stop man. You know, what I wanna say about the ass shot, this is the funniest shit that I came about. That was the most amazing ass. This is how I came about. Oh sorry. So during rehearsals, I'm noticing that this is gonna be like this big ass shot. Amazing, I'm into it. That's A-Rod, dude. Is it A-Rod there?
Starting point is 02:31:06 No, A-Rod's not there. He's not. You know, she's there. She's doing like, you know, she comes in front and she does the ass with him. So I'm noticing. Herb is not there? I don't know. Nobody's there but the ass. Nori, let it live, bro.
Starting point is 02:31:18 Let it live. So I'm noticing. It's just ass. I'm noticing that. A lot of ass in the building. That they're going to do a nice ass shot, a close-up ass shot. But then what I realized is I'm like over here performing while the ass shot is going on. And it's a long ass shot. It's like long.
Starting point is 02:31:38 So you inserted yourself into the ass shot? I inserted myself into the ass shot. Yo, motherfucker a f***ing yo! Yo, you a a** insertion, bro! Yo, I don't think I'm being afraid of you. Yo, my G! Yo, my G inserted into the action! Listen, man. I had to get my camera tied, man.
Starting point is 02:32:08 You would have had to. That's amazing. That's amazing. I said, yo, this is going to be an amazing shot. Because they're focusing on this ass shot. But I'm like, during rehearsal, I'm like over here. So I'm like, fuck. They're not going to see me.
Starting point is 02:32:24 So I said, you know, when we do the live thing. I'm going to here so I'm like fuck they're not gonna see me so I said, you know We do the last thing I said it's my mind when we do the last thing I know this is gonna be the one shot And so I got into one shot and there's the you go, there you have it. Yo, that sounds a change. Genius. The genius. That's alchemy right there. That's alchemy. Put my name in the credits.
Starting point is 02:32:50 Yeah, yeah, I just sneaked in there. My wife is, she's cool, man. She loves, she loves me. I love her to death, man. I love you, too. Yeah, that's my dog, man. You know what I'm saying? I love your wife, man.
Starting point is 02:32:58 Man, it's good shit. I love your wife, too, man. We got to get the wives together. We got to get the wives together. Yeah, man. We tried to get the wives together. We tried to get the wives together. We tried to get the wives together. We tried to get the wives together. We tried to get the wives together. We tried to get the wives together. I love dogs too. Yeah, that's my dog, man. You know what I'm saying? I love your wife, man. Man, it's good shit. I love your wife too, man.
Starting point is 02:33:06 That's right. We got to get the wives together. We got to get the wives. Yeah, man. We tried to get them off. Where's your wedding ring at? Where's your wedding ring? My wedding ring is with my wife, man.
Starting point is 02:33:14 You got to relax. I got the Prince wedding ring on right now. You got to relax. Hey, listen. I got to get the- Get the bro ring on. The napkin holder. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Go wear them now. They want to get the bro ring on. I got the bro ring on. I got the bro ring on. I got the bro ring on. I got the bro ring on.... Put the purple ring on. The napkin holder. No, it's okay. More, more. Don't want to get too fancy. Yeah. Now, next time,
Starting point is 02:33:33 next time, I want to switch the wet ring on, man. No, I always wear one right away. I didn't see it today. It's just tonight. Tonight, tonight. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Because, you know, I don't know... You better put that on then, though. I don't know what type of jar you want me in. This is Jarwood's wet ring. Always. Cause then you know, I don't know. You gotta put that on then though. I don't know what type of jar rule I'm being. This is jar rule, it's right around. Always on. Cause you like Tupac.
Starting point is 02:33:49 Yeah. You don't know who he mean at that. Yeah, yeah, fuck outta here, nigga. I'm going with you like that. Yeah, fuck outta here, nigga. You a great nigga. Same me, nigga. Every shot, nigga.
Starting point is 02:33:59 You a great nigga. You my nigga. But I'm gonna be honest. I'm proud to know you. I'm proud to be a friend of you. Same here, my brother. Same here, my brother. I'm proud to have you. I love same here my brother same here my brother I love you man same proud to know my brother man to be in coordination with you I don't even know what that means but I have saved it But you know what? We stood at the test of time. Yeah. We stood here and there's no person I'd rather
Starting point is 02:34:29 be proud of to represent tonight. Yo, let me tell you something. I love you. No, no, no. Go ahead, go ahead. I gotta keep picking you up. Okay, good, good. Dream champ.
Starting point is 02:34:49 You want one shot of tag and pole? Oh my god, I don't think I can f- Let's do one shot of tag and pole. I'm here for it though. I'm here for the show. I'm gonna do the ad-libs. I'm gonna do the ad-libs. I'm gonna do the ad-libs. You good? You gonna come to dinner with me then? I'm gonna do the ad-libs. I'm gonna do the ad-libs. You good. You know I'm the fool. I'm, I'm, what's wrong? You come, you come to dinner with me. Alright. I'm gonna do the ad-libs.
Starting point is 02:35:08 You go to dinner after this. Do the Taco Bell. Fuck it. I'll do the ad-libs. One shot. And that's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's a wrap.
Starting point is 02:35:16 No, no, no, no. He gotta say he's coming to dinner with me and Komodo. Komodo? You know what I'm saying? Nigga, I think Komodo's in my house. It's on you. I'm a fool. It's on you.
Starting point is 02:35:24 It's on you. You got me in Komodo. What is this shit? What's up with this shit? Don't do that. Be honest. Be honest here. I don't think it's positive. I ain't fucking with you. Nope, I ain't having no shit.
Starting point is 02:35:40 That's how you kill my man. Fuck that shit. No you ain't, Man. Fuck that shit. Come on. No, you ain't, nigga. I ain't drinking. I ain't drinking. You ain't drinking. Fuck that. I ain't drinking. No.
Starting point is 02:35:49 No. I ain't having no more shots. No. Yo, you got to promise him. Whatever he fucking talking about, I'm going to promise to half-way. No, I'm going to pour that. This is my last shot right here. It's Tiger's book, bro.
Starting point is 02:35:57 Yo, let me tell you something, though. This is the genius of drink shit. I'm pouring the drink. Yeah, it is. It gets niggas drunk. I'm drunk. I'm out of here. What's out of here?
Starting point is 02:36:04 I'm going to drink Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Yeah! Yeah! We lit. Let me tell you. That's it. That's it. All right, one last story. That shit is nasty, though.
Starting point is 02:36:57 I don't want, no, no, no, no, no, relax! That shit is nasty. This shit is over! You gotta relax. This shit is over! You gotta relax. This shit is over! You gotta relax. This shit is over! You gotta relax. This shit is over!
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