Drink Champs - Episode 144 w/ T.I.

Episode Date: November 9, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with returning guest T.I.! The guys talk politics, supporting our own, family, the South and a lot more. Follow Drink Cha...mps http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 when we talk about a person who stood this test of times, talk about a person who faced the jail and adversity and the streets and everything and stood here and still here right now, relevant, has a beautiful family. Promotes that. A person that is still at the test of time has just dropped an album today, god damn it.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Today, god damn it. And I'm talking about I listened to this shit all morning. And you know when people drop music and they come here I want to listen to it and I want to hurry up. I didn't want to hurry up at all. I didn't want to hurry up at all. I Didn't want to hurry up at all I wanted to take my time and then he got James Chappelle narrating the whole not gonna mean not gonna mean God damn it. He was smart because if you want to fast forward you bet you better not fast forward
Starting point is 00:03:56 You gon miss a James Chappelle skit And if you don't know what I'm talking about motherfucking king of the south the trap king himself Can you call me I'm so proud of you because I got you. When he gets home, he should be at home. I appreciate that. I'm going to be honest. I'm so proud of you because I've seen the beginning. You know what I'm saying? I was a guy who got to be out before you. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And I got a chance. And I got to see people come out and come and go, come and go, come and go. And a lot of people have been through the diversities you've been through, haven't been, and you're still here. And when I listened to this album, I wanted to see, I really wanted to hear you not being hungry. Like, I really like, like, I just, because I know the blessed life that we live. And you could have shortchanged.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You could have said, you know what, I'm going to say, every bar, like, you were serious about this. Yeah, yeah. Now, let me ask you, before you answer that, this is called Dime Trap you know, you know, I like my Spanish actually made me say D-Made trap So, okay, let's just take it from the beginning, right? Because I know we had you on Dream Champs a couple of other times, so we're going to focus on this album. Okay. Because we're going to do on this one.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So, what made, even made you want to do Dime Trap? Well, first, it's my 10th album. 10th album, okay, I got that correct. Hence the dime. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Ooh. Dime, I didn't think of that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 10th album. 10th album. You know what I'm saying? Oh, good time. I didn't think of that. Ten or ten albums. And trap music, man, you know, that's the lifestyle that we have showcased to the world and has become so prevalent to the day. It's actually the 15th anniversary of trap music. Oh, wow. August 19. Congratulations. Thank you, thank you. Congratulations to you too. Oh 19th. Congratulations. Thank you, thank you. Wow. Well, congratulations to you too.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Oh yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Cool. Cool. And so I wanted to do something that was commemorative to trap music, like the evolution of trap music. And that's why I came up with Dime Trap.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So you go in and one of the standout tracks, which I would've thought um was going to be the single and then it turned out i'll click on today and it is the video you went um what is it balling in the rave yeah rave yeah i ain't gonna lie broke niggas is gonna go crazy hey man that's what it's for man you know what i'm saying it's a it's an ambitious like a celebratory record, you know what I'm saying? Something that you can strive towards and you can aspire to achieve that goal. I think every dope boy in America, if you can ride in a Wraith and go have your way and do what you want to do, man, you living.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You know what I mean? So I just wanted that record to represent that to the people. And you brought your Gotti along. Yeah. Is that the first time y'all worked or y'all we don't work back and forth together on a few things But it's the first time you've been on one of my house. Yeah. Now. How was that man? It was amazing man Oh God is the homie. He's uh Actually somebody who I got I consider like one of my little bros and You is all G out. I mean
Starting point is 00:07:24 You look 23, but you are old like one of my little bros. You is an OG out here. I mean, I'm fortunate. You look 23, but you an OG. I'm fortunate, man. You're a goddammit. Hold on, we're going to toast to you, T.I. We're going to toast to you, T.I.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Because goddammit, you out here, I was looking for the slip up and I said, you ain't going to slip up. Like, you ain't going to slip up. You're rich as shit.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Like, what the fuck didn't make you like, like. Man, I'm out here, man. I'm out, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:07:43 The quest to be dope still is, that's why I wake up in the morning. Wake up, you know, brush my teeth, get fresh and go do some dope shit. Right. Like, that's, you know, that's what get me out of bed. That's what get everybody out of bed. You did. Were you inspired by the albums that came out this summer? Because I think it's like
Starting point is 00:08:05 I was already got them I lived deep in mine But then I don't really I don't allow myself to be I don't allow myself to be Encumbered by the thoughts of what other artists are doing I just do me You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:24 I can't get wrapped up in what nobody artists are doing. I just do me. You know what I'm saying? I can't get wrapped up in what nobody else doing. Because whatever they're doing, that's tailor-made for them. You know what I mean? What I'm doing is going to be tailor-made for me. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Now, how does Dave Chappelle come a part of this? Hmm. Because, again, I actually seen the Instagram Right. of you guys talking. Right. and then I thought it was one skit, and then I seen another Instagram of you guys talking, then I listened to the album,
Starting point is 00:08:52 and I was like, that is genius what you did. Because that's two greats coming together, and although this is your album, it's still like, if you love Dave Chappelle, you're going to be tuned to fuck, yeah. I mean, absolutely. He the homie, man. And he didn't have to do that. Nah, hell nah, he didn't have to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:11 There's a million other things he could have been doing, man. I mean, we, like, we always get together, man, whether, you know, I go to his show if he's in town
Starting point is 00:09:20 or he comes to one of my shows if I'm in town or whatever. But after the show, we always have these epic, monumental, like these whimsical evenings. You know what I'm saying? So during one of these evenings, I just played the album for him.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And the next morning, dazed and confused in a drunken stupor, I wake up and see that he had texted me saying, yo, the shit you were playing was dope. So that's when I shot my shot. Like, well, yo, why don't we get together? Oh, you hadn't planned it?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Nah. Okay. I was like, why don't we get together and see what we can come up with? And then he was like, man, I'm coming to Atlanta. You know? And he came and we got in the studio and really just effortlessly knocked some shit out. Now, on one of the tracks, you said one of the coldest shit I ever heard.
Starting point is 00:10:12 You said one of these dudes did something to one of your partners or something. You said you thought about bailing the nigga out just to get him. I'm not gonna lie, I had never heard of no shit like that. I ain't gonna lie, that's some cold-blooded shit. I had never heard of no shit like Today I said damn I had to think about that one Niggas said he gonna bail him out
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's how smart I know I ain't gonna find you a different type of smartness But I thought like that even come to your mind? Is that a real situation or that was like, you know, made up? Or we got to move on? If we got to move on, it's going to be no Gummer Street. Yeah, definitely, man. So Dave Chappelle was on the album, right? Yeah, we had a good time. Okay, but The Weeknd.
Starting point is 00:10:59 The Weeknd was another one of my favorite joints. Because at first when I heard it, I thought The Weeknd was on there. But then I realized that y'all was talking about the actual Weeknd. Right. Swiss Beats did that one. Swiss Beats did that. Swiss Beats is on fire right now. Yeah, man. It's the OG. How did, like, working with Young Thug, because I remember at one point
Starting point is 00:11:15 Young Thug was receiving criticism, and I would believe you came up and said, hey, OGs, we was the same at that time, and is that how you and Young Thug called that? At least for the stuff, he's being criticized for most of it. Thug is like a little brother to me, too. The first record we first made each other, the first record we did was About the Money. About the Money.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That was the very first record. Ever since then, we've been locked in. Every time we get a chance to work Together man, we're gonna bring something very special to the table But I did feel like everybody would criticize the hill for doing the shit that everybody else that I already did Like you know say he wore a dress man three thousand wardress You know, there's so many other people out there, you know, just because it's happening again in this generation Doesn't mean that we get to frown upon it
Starting point is 00:12:07 like this the first time we ever seen it. You know, the Isley Brothers used to be dressed weird back in the day, Parliament fucking Gellix. And R. Kelly ran up into the Isley Brothers girl too, remember that. Let's not forget that. I don't know, I don't know. T.I. brought it out of me.
Starting point is 00:12:29 What the hell is going on in the sheets in my home? You know, I'm going to sit there chest-stacking. You don't remember that video? I've seen that the other day. I remember. You know, the Razzies brothers and R. Kelly. Mr. B. They had a whole. They had a trilogy.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They had a bunch of videos. They had a 19-part song. Yeah, they had a whole, man, they had a 19-part song. So, one of the things before I get back to the album is, I expected to hear Lil Wayne on this album for some reason. Was I wrong, or is everything not, like? I mean, man, I still look at Wayne as a brother. Have y'all spoke since now we spoke we spoke but I encourage you to you know we spoke with the love is that when we see each other I still celebrate his success and I wish him the absolute
Starting point is 00:13:15 best I'm not the inner car five I still close to the iron is dope that's don't get dope I think it's extremely dope I think he gave us what we've been waiting for you do you think I got like I think he gave us what we've been waiting for. Do you think, like, you know, throughout the years you've been dropping, like last time we seen you, you had dropped your click. You know, you constantly staying out there. You mean the Hustle Gang? Yeah, the Hustle Gang. But constantly staying out there. Wayne had took a crazy break. You think that it was crazy that his fans just stood there and waited for him?
Starting point is 00:13:47 Like, that's a... Nah, man. You expected that? I mean, yeah. Legends never die. Sleeping. Like, I always speak to my kids about sleeping giants. Because, you know, my kids, they think they, you know what I'm saying, they know what's
Starting point is 00:13:59 hip and what's, you know, what's going on right now. And, you know, we would just have discussions about certain people in rap. They'd be like, man, he cold, man. He done felt him. Nah, bro, listen. That man's a giant.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Like Eminem, we had this discussion about Eminem, as a matter of fact. You and your kids? Yeah, me and my kids. You know, like, I think at the right time
Starting point is 00:14:20 he dropped the first one. Okay. Revival. Yeah, revival. You know, it was like, man, Eminem, man, he done lost. I said, hey, listen,
Starting point is 00:14:28 don't you ever fix your fucking face to see no dumpster. Right, right. Smell some motherfucking sleeper jams. There's people like
Starting point is 00:14:36 Em, Jay, Wayne, Wayne, myself, Kanye, you know what I'm saying? It's just, it's certain people you can't never count Kanye, you know what I'm saying? It's just certain people you can't never count out.
Starting point is 00:14:48 You know, no matter how outcast, Andre 3000. Icons, Iconic Icons. You know what I'm saying? People like, you know, whenever they, they can not drop some shit for 10 years. They drop some shit, it's gonna, Stevie Wonder, Rolling Stone, you know what I'm saying? It's certain motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:15:05 you just got to, man, you just got to understand that whenever the stars in the moon land, when they feel like giving you their best
Starting point is 00:15:11 and it comes, it's going to go up. You know what I mean? And I just always, you know, I think it's dope right now. There's a lot of us, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:15:22 that's back in our bed. It seems like everyone is motivated from each other. Right. Because I believe that, what is this, 2018, correct? I believe that this is one of the greatest eras of music. We're not going to say it because we're living in it. Right. And it's just like, you know, I was hearing you on the album.
Starting point is 00:15:40 You kept speaking about the 90s. But as people were living in the 90s, we weren't saying the 90s was dope. Yeah, we didn't know. We were just saying, yo, we live under the fuck, but I think this is one of the greatest eras of music. Only thing that is fucked up is how disposable music is, meaning a person will be on an album for a week or two or three, and then next week- If you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:16:00 If you're lucky. If you're lucky. And that's the only thing about it, but there's so much great music that came out this year. I think some of it will eventually be overlooked. Shout out to Nipsey Hussle. Yeah. That was an excellent album. J-Rock's album.
Starting point is 00:16:13 J-Rock's album, absolutely. Travis Scott had a full album. Yeah, that was hard. That was hard. You know what I'm saying? You know, you got so many people, man. Dizzy Thane, Lil Baby had a dope album this year. Gunna. And you know, you got so many people, man. D-Day Thang, Lil Baby had a dope album this year, Gunna.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I thought Lil Baby and Gunna's together. They actually now, you know what I'm saying, they actually separate, but they did a collaboration project. Oh, okay, alright, cool. I'm a whole nigga, T.I., I don't know. Man, it's alright, man. You got two options, get old or die young. You know what I'm saying? I'll tell you some crazy shit. You got two of my best Breakfast Club quotes. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.
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Starting point is 00:21:24 Like, I was never a beer drinker my girl really is the one that put me on to really like get into beers not like just the random you know of course i would have a beer here and there and when i was a teenager that's what i was drinking but i'm really more into to the liquor side the hard liquor stuff rums and and and the vodkas or even black on the rocks that was my thing but lately I've been just all up into the beer stuff. And I mean, I'm talking about like trying to be like a connoisseur of beers. And then, you know, got put onto this amazing company called Hopsi. And basically, they're like, they make like the Nespresso for beer or the Keurig for beer.
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Starting point is 00:25:06 But it was like four different things. Diversity is key. Diversity. And we need more of that. Like, we need more of a person that, because at the end of the day, even when I was growing up and the person told me to go upstairs,
Starting point is 00:25:20 if he wasn't respected, I ain't listening to him telling me to go upstairs. You understand what I'm saying? But now the gangsters tell me, go upstairs, I he wasn't respected, I ain't listening to him telling him to go upstairs. You understand what I'm saying? But now the gangsters tell me, go upstairs, I know your moms. I'm flying the fuck upstairs. And I thought about that
Starting point is 00:25:32 when you said that. I said, yo, I think we need more of that. Do you think? Ah, man. It's hard to say. We need more genuine men who just like,
Starting point is 00:25:43 unapologetic about pressing their line. You know what I'm saying? Respectfully. Right. And, you know, I think it's a lot of men right now that have a lot of physical power, but they don't have the mental discernment to distinguish when it's time to actually enforce and, you know know take advantage of this power i think that's the thing we need discernment we need more people who can who
Starting point is 00:26:14 can estimate like it ain't even worth instilling this or inflicting this amount of authority on the situation you know i mean right so um So another person that would not think a trap immediately is Jeezy. Right? And that could have easily been like a discrepancy between y'all two. Like he could have been like, I'm the trap dude or you're the trap dude. But y'all easily get along. I mean, man. Perfectly.
Starting point is 00:26:41 We brothers, you know. We have a lot of experience and history together, you know? I knew him, like, before he really took his real, established his true position, you know what I'm saying? Right. And I can say the shit that he say is real you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:27:07 and I was when I when I actually met him he was coming into a position where people he was buzzed and people were hearing
Starting point is 00:27:15 his name and I knew him from a mutual acquaintance that happens to you know be in the lifestyle and when I met
Starting point is 00:27:24 when I met him it kind of he he reminded me like what i would have been if i hadn't got signed you dig what i'm saying it kind of felt like yo man this is the exact position you'd be in you know what i'm? So the things that you learn, you should share. And, you know, the first thing I told them was, you gotta pick a side. Why do y'all South niggas take care of each other more than any other coast? I don't know. I ain't gonna lie. Can y'all spread that to
Starting point is 00:27:57 anybody? I don't know. South, y'all really do take care of the South. I look at all of them like my brothers. You know what I'm saying? Unless that sentiment isn't reciprocated. And then even then it's live and let live. You know what I'm saying? It felt like this region musically was being suppressed for so long.
Starting point is 00:28:18 People in New York, LA or whatever, that finally when the South came up it felt like everybody wanted to- Y'all all on top of each other. See, we got enough space. I'm Miami South. You know what I'm saying? He's Miami. I don't even have to see you. He got away from New York immediately.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He's Miami. He claimed y'all immediately. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But we a different kind of South than Miami. But even still, y'all all on top of each other. We all on top of each other, yes. Y'all got, you know what I'm saying? We have a little more space to roam and, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:46 and stretch out our limbs without touching each other. Because it seems like even when y'all bumped shoulders or whatever, y'all worked that out real fast. Like even back in the days when you were ludicrous, like whatever it was, but it worked out real fast. And then y'all was on like a picture together, like in front of a house. I mean, that because it wasn't really, it didn't stem from nothing. You know what it is with New York.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Once we have beef, it's one person who talks to one person. And then we never, we never hear it from the other guy. We hear it from everybody else. Why don't y'all never just say, man, come in, let me holler at you. I don't know if we're going to figure this out right now. This is what we're doing right now. We're going to spread this out right now. This is what we're doing right now. We're going to spread this message right here. But you know what we're going to do?
Starting point is 00:29:29 Look, this is Tiger Bone. We're going to celebrate you tonight. This is Tiger Bone. We are celebrating. This is a drink champs tradition. Look, look. I know. What is it, though?
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's herbs. It's herbs. It's ginseng. It's ginseng. Don't worry. This is for you. This is for your 10th album, Dime Trap. We are celebrating the king
Starting point is 00:29:46 The trap God T out of night goddamn is making This is how we know our guests is real because some guests would be here like that. Oh, that's nice And then they start sweating little shit. So you turn it a nice at all So, um, okay. Also, you know what man speaking of, you know, the anniversary of trap music mail in Atlanta We open the trap music Is it trappy okay? No track here. Yeah, we did a few a few weeks ago a couple weeks ago But now we actually opened a museum dedicated to trap music.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah. God damn it. You heard Tupac is alive? He had sunset there. Rumblings of sex. He's been in Cuba forever. No, Malaysia. They spot that. The Cuba one is the one that... Nah, I've seen the Malaysia one. I would have rather heard the story Without the fake photoshop picture
Starting point is 00:30:46 Did you see the photoshop? That was crazy Now the photoshop picture Made me not want to hear the story But I just wait till he pull up on me It don't cost me nothing to see You know I got to see it in person
Starting point is 00:30:57 Now are you an internet guy? Like is that where you get your information from? I mean you can't help but receive information You know But That's not my source of information. If I'm looking for something, you know what I'm saying, I usually call someone who I think is more knowledgeable than me on the subject. And if they direct me to the Internet, well, then I go.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Now, what label is this on? This is on? It's on Grand Hustle. Grand Hustle, straight up. I mean, mean well you know I have a partnership With Epic Oh okay
Starting point is 00:31:29 Okay Yeah I have a partnership With Epic And they've been Phenomenal partners man You know what I mean Okay They got in the trenches
Starting point is 00:31:36 With me and you know We banged Sylvia Wrong Yeah Okay cause They got L.A. Read about it They had to be too
Starting point is 00:31:42 I really don't know What happened Right I don't know what happened That's the homie I seen him other times Yeah I love L.A. He a part of it at the beat too. I really don't know what happened. Right. I don't know what happened. That's the homie I seen the other day. Yeah, I love L.A. He was the first person to sign me.
Starting point is 00:31:51 A number of great things to say about him. But Sylvia Rhone is the person that, you know what I'm saying, that I'm dealing with. Right. Now, you being a representative of not just young black successful men, not just people from the ghetto, not just a a hip hop I just feel like you're a representative of us and you have proper language thank you
Starting point is 00:32:12 is there something positive about Donald Trump that we can say like I mean there can be no there can be no positive without negative or negative without positive. You dig? Okay, that went over my head.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Nothing is 100% negative. There is some good and there is a problem. Like they should probably say everything I say is the truth. And that's a lie. But it's all the truth. And that's the motherfucking truth. Well, go ahead. Get to it.
Starting point is 00:32:43 No, I mean, so. You can tell I listened to the album, nigga. I studied it. I'm sorry. I mean, just to be honest with you, it'll be the financial gain that comes from, you know, programs like the Opportunity Zones and tax credits for rich people.
Starting point is 00:32:59 But, you know what I'm saying? It ain't worth the payback of disrespect. All the baggage. You know what I'm saying? It ain't worth the payback of disrespect. You know what I mean? I'd rather pay the money. I'd rather, you know, to have our lives be valued and respected and to be treated fairly and equally. I'd rather just charge me for equality. We should be able to pay an equality bill.
Starting point is 00:33:28 That's hard. That's hard. Everybody though or just us? Just charge me for equality. We should be able to pay equality bill Man now, but that's if you subsidize you get a grant from the government Equality being played it was one thing the other day and he said we are being accused of things Yeah, he was like we are being accused of things and we're not doing off. No, and we're guilty Until innocent and everyone posted this. You're talking about the Kavanaugh stuff. And I don't know what he was talking about, I'm sorry. But that's just like when he said you shouldn't be able to flip.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Oh yeah, he said like the slit shit. Listen man. And much as I agree with what he said, theoretically, it's been happening to us for years. Now all of a sudden it get to be your turn and it shouldn't be happening to no one. What the fuck? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:14 My whole case started from an informant. And I had to go through mine if I would've came to you and say, hey man, snitches should be bad. You say, man, get the fuck on and do your turn. Okay, we got a lot of cases to y'all only federal okay okay and oh so that's the order from informant yeah but oh wow okay I wasn't ready I wouldn't that's the one that you had like 1900 guns yeah it was a dude who was my security. He was suggesting to me that I buy firearms from him. Oh. Legitimately.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And you know, he ended up turning around trying to make more money and bought firearms from the ATF. And when he got caught, he said, no, it's not mine, it's from my boss. And he brought them to me. Now you're one of the dudes that got a call, he said, no, it's not mine, it's these four of ours. And he brought them to me. Now you're one of the dudes that got accused of, like people saying that you was telling. 59458019, my number.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Right, right. There ain't no rule 35. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, you escaped away. People realize that that wasn't you. I didn't escape away. I didn't escape away.
Starting point is 00:35:23 No, no, no, I'm talking about you got away clean, what I'm saying. You got away clean. I'm talking about people in the streets. At first, the streets, because when you... Because it was false. Okay, that's what I'm saying. That's the point I'm trying to make. Because it was false.
Starting point is 00:35:34 All right. If I would tell it, and if I told on you, you was in time doing... If you was in jail doing time because of me, wouldn't you call your cousins and say, hey, man, tiptoed on me. He put me here. But why do you think in our community, we are so quick to do that like if a person well i will say this because in our community
Starting point is 00:35:52 it was not an exception but it cost me eight million ten million dollars wow you know i'm saying like people don't know that part well shit I had a three million dollar boat You know saying I had six lawyers charging me women on that six Five I had five lawyers Then it didn't happen, you know haphazardly. That was strategic. And it was costly. I made it. And you made it, goddammit. We salute you, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Grace of God. No, thank you, because without y'all, I wouldn't have been able to play football. We salute you, goddammit. You know what I'm saying? And did you just recently get arrested in your crib? Yeah. That was hard. What happened? Was you drunk in your your crib? Yeah. That was hard. What happened?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Was you drunk in your own crib? No. Okay, what happened? What had happened? I may have had a drink. You may have had a drink. All right, so what happened was? I don't really want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:36:58 You don't want to talk about it? No. Because I ain't going to lie. You said articulate in itself. When they asked you, you said, sir, what am I being prosecuted for? I said, this nigga is articulate in itself. This nigga is ill. You got to wait when you know some cameras with somebody.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You got to get at the dog. And I heard that guy got fired, too. I ain't finna do no, you talking about the policeman? Are you speaking of the guard? The security guard who called? I haven't seen him since. You haven't seen him since? Yeah. I have to tell you guys about my newest time saving trick right here. I got my contact lenses prescription renewed while sitting on my couch yesterday in under
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Starting point is 00:39:18 What happened was I pulled up and he was asleep. It's a golf course community. You have gates and you have guards and, you know, you check in. When they see you, they see who you are. They let you in and so on and so forth. This particular gentleman was sleeping when I pulled up to the guard gate. He was sleeping. So I'm on the phone
Starting point is 00:39:46 FaceTiming with my old lady and I show her on my FaceTime. Look. Look. Motherfucker asleep. And he wake up in the middle of me and he see he caught her. So now he's shocked. He's in shock. And his first response is
Starting point is 00:40:02 not to let me in immediately. It's to project that frustration, that embarrassment on me. You know, I guess he was figuring if I misconduct myself, it'll be more about me and less about him getting to sleep. So finally we go back and forth. And then my wife called him, telling him to let me in. He finally let me in, and I said, now, you know what, I'm going to walk back.
Starting point is 00:40:28 So I walked back, and I asked him to step outside so I could speak to him and we could clear it all up. He chooses not to. They call the police. The police come there, and instead of assessing the situation and finding out what's going on, their answer to the question of the circumstances was to arrest me.
Starting point is 00:40:49 There was a racist man that wanted to see me talking about how much money I had paid for my house. And he thought, as he said on camera, that I thought my shit didn't stink. And for that reason, he arrested me. God dammit. And your house is like the size of a project that's clean. It's fantastic. Let's make some noise for
Starting point is 00:41:10 T.I. God damn it. They waving us to tell us we gotta go. But I want to get into one more drink before we get up out of here. You featuring T.I. to tell. Let's get into that. That's an important record for me because I think that it's very important that we remind ourselves that there's something wrong with everybody. You know, none of us are perfect.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So none of us should expect perfection from people. and being overly judgmental and hypocritical of people when you have your own conflicts and your own challenges in life that you're working through is counterproductive. You know what I'm saying? And I just, you know, I felt I should speak on it. And Tiana, you know what I'm saying, she has a phenomenal way of putting the exclamation point on the message. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of
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Starting point is 00:46:39 You gotta relax, all right? I thought you was rushing me for the interview. My bad, my bad, my bad. I thought they would tell me. Okay, okay. You know, I'm trying to be on point. I gotta respect you out here for the interview. My bad, my bad, my bad. I thought they was telling me, okay, okay. I'm trying to be on point. I got to respect you out here.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And you've been everything. Now, another thing. This is another quote that I love what you said. You said, people don't respect the come up, the fall, and the come back. I think that's going to be the name of my next album. The rise, the fall, and the comeback I think that's gonna be the name of my next Yo, that shit is crazy like I mean that's what we need underdog every for you to root for you build up You know, you're you're you're staying your esteem and your claim and and once you've gotten too big they start hating on you they get tired of seeing you they sick of you they want is that what you
Starting point is 00:47:31 think you're winning too much right let somebody else eat then when you start hearing me right let somebody else eat then oh boy you got all the paper you know that one got too big is that what you think that when you started running into law enforcement problems or that was separate? No, I think I had a separate issue. I think I had an entirely
Starting point is 00:47:50 separate set of problems that I was dealing with internally. I was still like I would eyebrow deep in the bullshit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:01 And I was living crazy and I just allowed myself to be susceptible to that type of nonsense. You ever got Hollywood? Yeah, of course I did. Well, let's hear about it. Of course I did. Of course I did.
Starting point is 00:48:16 You put your speech in game on. The first time in the whole interview the speech came out. Of course. Let's talk about that time and let's talk about what you had to do to get out of it. I went to prison to get out of it.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Oh, yo. Damn. I went to prison to get out of it. Damn, that's a humble, that's a humble, that's a humbling situation. I went twice just to make sure
Starting point is 00:48:37 I got it out of my system. That's not humility. Just to make sure I got it out of my system, I went twice. Just to make sure we get all this stuff telling you. Just to make sure I got it all on the system, I went twice. Just to make sure we get all this stuff cleaned out. Let me make sure it's flushed out well. For people who don't realize how hard it is,
Starting point is 00:48:52 like, T.I., we come from the hood. We selling drugs. We know that that life leads to just two different options. Sure. We start writing these words and playing with these words, and these words work. And there's no book to say how to hold your money, what to do when you spend your money.
Starting point is 00:49:08 But crack taught us how. Crack being a drug dealer taught us how to handle money. And it taught you don't trust everybody. But even more so, it taught you how manufacturing, distribution, profit and loss. You know what I'm saying marketing and promotion you had to uh uh create a demand supply that demand you know what i'm saying you expand you know acquisitions you go and you know take over a block mergers you do a deal with some guys and y'all share a block you know what i'm? All these different types of business structures
Starting point is 00:49:46 we learn from selling crap. And I always say, man, you know, like I said, there can be no bad with some good. It's destructive. And as horrendous as the crack era was, it showed us how to be businessmen that would not have been a masterpiece without The crack era that would not Jay-z
Starting point is 00:50:16 Listen That was easy. He wouldn't have had the money to put Dr. Dre in the studio if it wasn't for selling crack You did. That's real shit. Crack paid for that. You know what I mean? God bless Eazy-E, but Dr. Dre a billionaire, champ. That started from crack.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Right. That's all. Come on, God damn it. It's all crack. There's a lot of other bad shit that happened from crack. Let's talk about that. Let's focus on the good.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Let's focus on the good. Let's focus on the good. That's what the Trap Music Museum does. That's what the Trap Music Museum does. The Trap Music Museum does just that. We focus on the positive message that comes from us surviving those circumstances, enduring that environment, overcoming it, and taking our experiences, sending it to music, you know, packaging it
Starting point is 00:51:15 as philosophical presentations that the world now tunes into. The same way the mafia had their time, and everybody was tuned in to the same way the mafia had their time. Right. And everybody was tuned in to the mafia. Right. Now they tuned in to the crack era. Right. And trap music is a direct result of the crack era. So as the trap music god, I'm just trying to put in. You know, titles don't really impress me.
Starting point is 00:51:38 God or emperor, king, sultan, you know. It is what it is. You know what I'm saying? I'm a contributor. And I feel like, you know, I'm on the board of what happened back then. That was some Dominican shit right there, man. You broke your dominican dollars. Get out of here with that Dominican shit right there, man.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Trying to beat Spike Lee. Come on. So as a person, I just want to put something out there. In 1997, I dropped an album called The War Report, right? Okay. And on The War Report, I had a song called Laundromat Trap. Right. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:07 And on that record, I said, Laundromat Trap, keep the loot in Iraq. Iraq, see the world, the world, see Iraq. And I kept saying, Laundromat Trap. Right. Right? I didn't mean the trap. Okay. I meant actual money.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Right, right. Because that's what we was calling the trap back then. Yeah. I feel like I should get a little bit Corner to try New York to say trap now they use trap a completely different way. I don't want to act like I use the y'all I ain't even tripping on there. Yeah, but we all share this earth to guess what I'm talking about Yeah, so I'm gonna trap museum somewhere Like a fixed museum or is it a pop-up? What you trying to say? It's open indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:53:09 It's open indefinitely. As long as it can sustain the budget of keeping it open from month to month, we gon' keep it open. And it's a free museum? No. Nothing in life worth having is free. That's right. Subscription only. We charge a nominal fee to get in, man. You know what I'm saying? And there's also an escape room in there. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:53:32 There's an escape room. A trap themed escape room. Oh! That's dope, so... You can get in there and get trapped, and you gotta actually hit a button to get out. Nah, you gotta think your way in. Nah, you gotta think your way in. Oh, you gotta think.
Starting point is 00:53:42 You gotta solve puzzles and tools and... I want the resource room. What if I can't solve these puzzles and tools. I went to resource room. What if I can't solve these puzzles? Like, what happens to me? I just gotta stay there? You get busted. Yeah, I get busted.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Nah, it's a situation. You said you are sitting in, you put in an environment, and there's a situation that is created, set of circumstances that is created, and you gotta think your way through it. and if not, prison is the likely outcome. Wow. That is hard. That is hard.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So whenever y'all in Atlanta, man, we can do a Drink Champs at the trap music. Yeah, we want to come to Atlanta. We wanted to come to your restaurant at one point. Man, I shut that motherfucker down. You shut it down? Yeah, yeah. Why, what happened? I was losing money coming and going. Oh, okay. I'm just going to tell you the truth, yeah. Why? What happened? I was losing money coming and going. Oh, okay. Why'd you throw it at me like that?
Starting point is 00:54:26 I'm just going to tell you the truth, man. Motherfucker steal. Oh, okay. Damn. Motherfucker steal. Damn. Damn. And you also let the... It was night while it was out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Good food, great environment. I designed it, created a phenomenal ambiance, but I wasn't there watching all the money going at the bank, though. Now, is Houston still on our bad list, or they got back? Yeah. Because I thought at one point... It's still bad. It's still bad?
Starting point is 00:54:52 Is it just in Atlanta, or it's all over? I would say you have to affect, you know... We're the strongest consumer base in the nation. Yeah. Period. We move more money than anyone. Don't get it fucked up. We sell sneakers.
Starting point is 00:55:08 We sell music. We sell movies. We sell clothes. We sell cars. We sell technology. We definitely sell sex. We sell champagne. We sell vodka.
Starting point is 00:55:19 We sell Kanye. Jewelry. We sell jewelry. We sell every motherfucking thing and we own nothing. What happens if we do? What happens if T.I. steps up and says I'm not drinking nothing no more unless someone I know owns it. I'm not wearing nothing no more unless someone I own owns it. What happens if you lead the way and then I follow and then everyone follow? What would be in a perfect world? I think first.
Starting point is 00:55:45 In a perfect world. I think first. Rather than saying I'm old. I mean, you know, you and me, we got a relationship with Paul. So we drink Ciroc. You know what I mean? We got a relationship with Jay. We drink Ace of Spades.
Starting point is 00:55:59 We drink D'Ussé. We got a relationship with Ross. Ace of Spades ain't too expensive for me. I'll stay on that one. We got a relationship with Ross. We drink Bel-Air. Yeah, we drink Bel-Air. You know what I'm saying? We got a relationship It's a space a little too expensive for me I'll stay on We got a relationship We can't bail that out We can't bail that out You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:56:07 I mean We gonna align ourselves With you know The people who present Products that We can support Right Now
Starting point is 00:56:18 The most important thing to me In addition to Aligning ourselves With our brothers Is identifying Though The same way We call that Chris style That's how important thing to me, in addition to aligning ourselves with our brothers, is identifying, though, the same way we call that Chris style. That's how Ace of Spades came
Starting point is 00:56:30 to be. Yep. Because we call that Chris style, they were respecting us. Yep. You know what I'm saying? And Jay said, okay, well, fuck y'all. I'm going to go get my own. I'm going to go get my own. Yep. And that's how Ace of Spades was born. Correct. But if there was no identification of the disrespect, how Ace of Spades was born. But if there was no identification
Starting point is 00:56:45 of the disrespect, then Ace of Spades probably, you know what I'm saying, he probably stood up. If Chris Stiles would have welcomed him with open arms, he probably would be fucking with Chris Stiles. You see what I'm saying? So I think we got to identify those brands that don't respect us
Starting point is 00:57:01 and choose alternatives. And when they see how their profit margins are affected on a quarterly basis right well we're African American when the african-american dollar is no longer there to pad your numbers but you don't get your quarterly bonus right what would happen if it were really like tight like we were really all of us together we say oh February was a cool week. Everybody only wearing a cool.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You're a cool divine. I like that, but let's make it more. It's February the short one. Okay. I know. My bad. I feel like that. You're on me, sir.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Okay, okay. Let's amend it a little bit. And we really get it. February, January, January 31. Oh, I love it. I love it. And we would just do that. And then every month, you know, then everyone, like Cypress Hills,
Starting point is 00:57:47 and Cypress Hills tequila day, or whatever. I think that's dope. And everybody just go out. Like, we would really show the marketplace. Because the thing about it is we are organized without being organized. This is what's organized with us. If a petite come out, for some reason,
Starting point is 00:58:03 everyone is going to find a way to have a petite never bought I mean either when everybody going right I usually go you know what I'm saying what I'm saying is I understand it we move the culture and drive that's what you call buying power you know what I'm saying buying power when you can motivate or direct a certain amount of people to go buy something
Starting point is 00:58:34 you know what I mean that's buying power so I think that we have to find a way because we have the most influential consumer base in the world. All we got to do is direct it accordingly. We've been directing each other to bullshit.
Starting point is 00:58:55 We've been telling each other to battle protect. We've been telling each other to go buy this shit. Now, what if you really came out with a jewelry line, right? It would be so hard to move it to us. I don't want to deal with niggas, man. No, I'm just saying, listen, listen. Just be clear.
Starting point is 00:59:12 You know how hard it is to get a nigga to pay you for some jewelry. Yeah, I know. I know, but in retrospect, in all actuality, it should be that. And what I mean, I mean hip-hop. I don't mean riffs. I feel that. I mean, if you hip-hop... mean I mean hip-hop I don't mean great feel it I mean someone if you hip-hop I know some hip-hop jewels I know a few
Starting point is 00:59:30 hip-hop jewels I do I do but I feel man you know I'm saying if if I am a customer and I have a certain buying power, you dig what I'm saying, and you putting your jewelry on me is just as beneficial for you as it is for me, then you're going to have to accredit me some considerations.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You dig? You ain't got to necessarily cut me no check. I ain't on no mob shit. This ain't no extortion. However, fool prices are fool's price yeah exactly you understand me that was real i'd be damned if i pay the same thing for a watch that joe schmoe
Starting point is 01:00:11 paid come here you ain't asking him to put you up on his instagram you don't get nothing from that if his 50 000 for a watch is 50 000 then i think i should get it for $30,000. Yeah, definitely. That I can give it to you over time. 28, I'm from New York. You know, I talk fast. So 28, I'm from New York. I'm going to tell him 30 because for the extra $2,000, he going to take 10 now, and I'm going to break him down at 20 later on over time. You got that, Mixon?
Starting point is 01:00:37 This is going to be D.I.B. in the house when I get it. But I'm going to pay him. That's the important thing. So, I know your answer to this. Because I listened to the album. And I listened to it three, four, maybe five times. I listened to it three times, like normally, because I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Then I listened to it two more. Then I came here and listened to it more. Man, thank you. Thank you. I know this answer already, but I got to ask it. What's up? Do you ever get tired of the game? Nah, man.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I mean, I get tired of the shit that come with the game, but I ain't tired of the game. Damn, that's the best answer ever. You know what I'm saying? That's the best answer. You got to be a mayor, son. No. You got to be the mayor, son. No, I'm in the for-profit business, sir.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You got to be the mayor of a black, rightful society. I'm in the for-profit business. I had no political ambition at all, man. I mean, I would love to affect politics in a positive way by supporting the people who I know are the most qualified for the position. Celebrities dying to be in political positions is what got us what we have in office right now. Yeah. We need people who are right now legit in third grade thinking about how to change. Don't think the last time you came he said Oprah.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Yeah, I think. I'm going to go with Oprah. First of all, I'm on the anything but Agent Orange campaign. Anything. Oprah and who else? Who else? Oprah and who else? Man, you know what?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Since then though, listen. But did we see Dave Chappelle and Will Smith? Since then. I kind of took them serious. Listen, man. You took Kanye serious too. No, Dave Chappelle and Will Smith. Listen, let me take you to something.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Look, man. If they actually run, I'm voting for them. Dave Chappelle and Will Smith. But, I mean, yes, why not? But. I would vote for them. I should vote for Hilsbury. I mean, yes, why not? But I'm voting for anybody but him.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Right. It's to the point now where we can't do any worse. Right. It's anybody but him. Do you realize how great George Bush is looking right now? Straight up. Straight up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:42 You look like a saint compared to us. He the homie now. You know what I'm saying? You look like a saint compared to others. He the homie now. You know what I'm saying? I know George Bush got the same one. I ain't gonna lie. I think George Bush got the homie. I'm like, you the homie. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Where is George Bush going to be? Ain't look, man. He went for, well, he don't like black people. I'm not sure. He hot. Hey, man. He ain't that bad. He ain't that bad.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But that what I'm trying to say though, man. Like, man, really, man, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. He all right. Hey, man. He ain't that bad. He ain't that bad. But that's what I'm trying to say, though, man.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Like, man, really, man, we need people who legit are dedicating their lives to service. You understand? Like, us, we so self-cultivators. You know what I mean? I'm sorry, T. I don't know what that means. What was that? Cultivative? You can teach me a word every T. I don't know what that means. What was that? Gratuitous?
Starting point is 01:03:27 You can teach me a word every time. That means we want to please ourselves. How you say it? Self-gratuitous. Gratuitous. Write that down. Self-gratuitous. Don't worry. Write that down. Gratuitous. No, God. We want to take you.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Take you, my nigga. We're so self- still sell gratuitous. You know, we putting ourselves first in everything. And that's the way we live our lives. Everything we do is about what I get out of that. You know, what's in it for me. That's how we was wired. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Coming up. Right. In order to be the president, you got to put the people first. You got to be selfless. You know what I'm saying? So even if my company lose money, I got to do the right thing. Really ain't poor to have a company.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's another thing. You can't have a company. You can't be an entrepreneur if you're the president. Why is that? I never knew that. Because it's not fair. you can't have a company you can't be an entrepreneur if you're the president why is that I never knew that because it's not fair because I'm saying you can call shots that would be is called conflict of interest it's saying that you would be able to call shots that would benefit your company over all the other companies that consists of the people oh so you put yourself above the table. Man, listen, John Gotti is the president.
Starting point is 01:04:48 You dig what I'm saying? I never knew that. A goof-ass John Gotti. A goofy one. With bad suits. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's really the honest to God truth about it. I'd rather put my influence
Starting point is 01:05:12 And my support behind someone who has dedicated their lives to service and who is not as selfish and is Self gratuitous as I am and I and put them in position Where they could be an office and they could do the right thing man for the greater good anybody that comes to mind Anybody you looking at? Well, I mean man for the midterm man. I'm going with uh, you know I'm supporting Andrew Gillum for Florida Yeah, it's very important that you guys recognize the amendment for needs to be you know saying like that the amendment for is Florida is one of the only states where if you get hit with a felony even after you serve your term, you still can't vote.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Like, I'm a felon, but I'm from Georgia. And Georgia, after you're done with your probation or your sentence, you can reinstate. You dig? So, if you get a felony as a 21- old at 50 in Florida you still can't vote you dig what I'm saying so the amendment 4 is to you know
Starting point is 01:06:12 to reinstate a felon's right to vote and in Georgia I'm going with Stacey Abrams you know what I mean see I know you don't want to be in politics, but see, things like this, where you just pointing out to people,
Starting point is 01:06:30 I think... I can do that. I can kind of drink chowder whenever you want me to, and I can explain to y'all all the shit you don't understand. But I do not want to be the motherfucking mayor or the governor or the president. You know what? I think that's dope. I think every...
Starting point is 01:06:46 Do you know how much the president makes? A year. But under the table, that nigga's dead. Nah, nah, nah. He like drink champagne. He go to jail for that.
Starting point is 01:06:53 He go to jail for that. That nigga ain't go to jail I don't want to have to go to jail for making money. Oh, you're saying you. I'm thinking about what you want him. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Any money you make outside of your salary as the president that they don't know about, if you make legitimate money, it could be something that's legitimate. It ain't got nothing to do with no drugs or nothing, but just because you're the president, you got to agree to not accepting no more money. I can't agree to not accepting no more money. How about as the governor or mayor? No. No?
Starting point is 01:07:26 I can't do it because you still got to agree. Like, the people pay you. You work for the people. You work on a fixed income. So you can't do that walkthrough at Magic City on Thursday night. Man, I can't hop out no Maybach. On Thursday night. I can't, you know, I can't do my thing being...
Starting point is 01:07:39 Well, we're going to endorse the people that we... That's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to do. We're going to put our influence and support behind the people. And I got some strange things going on, man. There's going to be some titties on the resolute dish in the White House. Goddamn it, T.I. Keep going, T.I.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I'm just telling you. T.I. End it out, T.I. That's why I can't be the president. Goddamn it. Because the things that would be going on in the Oval Office, they would scare the nation. You're getting us hyped, T.I. You're getting us hyped. I'm letting you know. President Barack and Michelle doing I won't be doing it Nations address you hear me they were cool black people we need I'm gonna come out there in a row We need one nigga president
Starting point is 01:08:39 Give me a day, all right? Give me a day, matter of fact, make it two. I'm gonna have to rest up. I'm telling you, bro, you don't want me, that ain't, you know, but I will impart my- But we will, because as our people. I will impart whatever insight I can. I will, you know, do whatever I can to promote and, you know, I guess direct the vote to where I feel it would be best represented.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Right. But I ain't interested. I'm in the for-profit business. Right. God damn it. Listen, man. Dom Trap, motherfucking outright motherfucking now. Let's make some noise for the fucking king of the motherfucking south.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Motherfucking king of the trap. God stay here. We're going to take some food. We're going to have some food. Thank you for being here. And by the way, by the way, by the way, by the trap. God stay here. We're gonna take some pictures. We're gonna have some fun. Thank you for being here. And by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, when you hear three times, you're officially a drink champ.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You're officially a drink champ. No, god damn it. God damn it. You're officially a drink champ. God damn it. And thank you so much. Come on, let's take a picture. Let's do it, man.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Good looking. Good looking. Hold up. You know what? Wait a minute. I want to talk about one more. Okay, one more. Yeah, let's take a picture, let's do it man, good looking, good looking. Hold up, you know what, wait a minute, I wanna talk about one more thing. Okay, one more, yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, please. It was rushing us, but go ahead, please, please,
Starting point is 01:09:51 let's come on out next week. I wanna talk about one more thing. Okay. Everybody. You know, this album is extremely important to me and we paid a lot of attention to detail. I challenged myself lyrically, musically, consciously to present the best, most honest,
Starting point is 01:10:17 most, most genuine piece of art that I could. But this is the first album. I think it's my best album, but this is the first time. I didn't wanna say that. I think it's my best album, but this is the first time. I didn't want to say that. I think it's my best album. It's your most mature album. I appreciate that. You grew with the time, you could have OD'd on,
Starting point is 01:10:33 talking about crazy shit, and it was just like, I know that what you were saying was, I'm sorry, but it's your 4-4-4. How you know, like, you know how Jay, 3-3-3. Yeah, yeah, there you go. It's just, you're like how you know, like, like, like, you know how Jay, like, 333. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Your 10-10-10. 10-10-10.
Starting point is 01:10:50 You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, Jay would have kept talking about, like, he talked about drugs, he talked about his past, but if he was saying, like, I'm moving it now still, we would have been like, come on, yeah, you can't be moving that. And it's similar to what you did. It's like, you should be reflecting on your past and you saying the things. And that's why I've enjoyed this so, so much because I've heard every other of your albums. I've been a part of them in a certain way.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I've been seeing Pharrell working on your records and enjoying. So for me seeing this is like, just wow. I wanna get on a Norell album though. I would love that, I would love that. We never did a record together, right? Nah man, I wanna do a N a Know Every Pharrell record. Oh yeah, alright. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:11:28 You know I'm calling Pharrell tomorrow. Come on, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that, T.I. Listen, nigga, I'm calling Pharrell right now. The nigga's over here on the phone, T.I. We don't do it. Don't do it, T.I. He's already on the phone, Pharrell. The hook and the beat. And that's it. We walk out.
Starting point is 01:11:44 You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to be honest. I'm going and that's it. We walk out. Turning real. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna think about it as when we do me and Pharrell a five song EP and just, you know. How about me and you for real a five song? Oh, forget it. We just made a million dollars here,
Starting point is 01:11:58 God damn it, you know what I'm saying? Make some noise for us. I'm gonna need that. We made it. Yeah, bye. No, but all jokes aside, yo, seriously, man, I'm so proud of you as a peer, as a person, as a boss. Man, as an OG, bro. Yes, as an OG.
Starting point is 01:12:20 You my big bro, man. You know what I mean? I came in this shit, man, rocking to y'all. Yep. Y'all mob deep. Y'all. You know, the whole queen movement. I used to spend my summers up in New York. I remember you saying that. You know, 94, 95. You know, I was around.
Starting point is 01:12:34 I was around. Yeah, yeah. And I know how strong the movement was before it became nationwide. Right. I was kind of a part of the motherfuckers who witnessed that shit before it actually caught on to the rest of the world. I was trafficking culture back and forth
Starting point is 01:12:52 from New York to Atlanta and Atlanta to New York before the internet. Before the internet, I was having motherfuckers in New York learned about OutKast, UGK, Good & More, Kilo Ali. that was me. You know I did Bigging you up, you know why because you played the game So, you know what because I feel like you big enough New York and that's that's not this episode
Starting point is 01:13:19 This episode is about you and it's never so because you know what? You know, it's also a part of your hood is this is crazy shit because they should call bank head like you would think bank Head is rich. Yeah. No, why would you think because it says bank? Bank and then book head is the red line was I think, listen, I be thinking some nigga gonna bank your ass in the head. Man, you ain't gonna get banked in the head. But yo, yo, you coming from where you coming from. You playing the game, doing this honorably. I've never seen you, I'm telling you,
Starting point is 01:14:01 I've been in this game 20 to 21 years. I've never seen you do no crap shit. I've never seen you play the game unfair. I've never seen you play the game unfair. I've never seen you forfeit. I've seen you stand there and stand like a man. And as a person that's another fellow man, I want to salute you.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I want to stand tall for you. And I want to say congratulations and continue to do what you're doing. And you're constantly putting your people on. I love that about you.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Right on. Shout out to Travis Scott, man, who has arguably the album of the year this year. That's right. That's your artist. Shout out to Travis Scott. I totally forgot about you. Right on. Shout out to Travis Scott, man, who has arguably the album of the year this year. That's right. That's your artist. Shout out to Travis Scott. I totally forgot Travis.
Starting point is 01:14:30 He lost all of his stuff. Holy moly, I totally forgot. I'm the only guy you see all of the year. I totally forgot that part. Shout out to Travis Scott. Holy shit, that is right. All right, now we got to get out of here after this. But how did you discover?
Starting point is 01:14:44 Because he was on Atlantic with you or she still not not at all BoB said to Atlantic BoB I got you Good you know like weird people not weirdos, but I mean we're you know out of this world I mean man, I found Travis on the internet, bro. I mean, I was just getting... Not on MySpace. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:10 YouTube. I was just getting home from prison, and I was really, like, searching and looking to find, like, how to reshape the team. You're going to have all niggas in your DMs right now. You say this continuous statement. No, I was just getting out of prison. And you found him.
Starting point is 01:15:30 He DM'd you? No, no. I saw his videos. I called him. I said something. Well, actually, I think DJ MLK found him for you. He's not from Atlanta. He's from Houston. Yeah, he's from Houston.
Starting point is 01:15:44 But you know, he had a crazy cult following. They found him for you not from a lot of people used to me from Houston But you know he had a crazy court following they found him and Iggy at the same time Yeah Got about it. Yeah, well, you know That's a wrap Tokyo Jets however is on tour with Kevin Gates.. And she's one of the dopest MCs you'll ever meet. And I ain't talking about dopest female MC. She's one of the dopest MCs. And I can attest to the fact that she writes all her own shit faster than a nigga do.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That's hard. I love the audible. That was a quarter. That was an audible. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. Before we get up. But you be killing it first first take two, but the Falcons is not doing good Well, listen the team is great
Starting point is 01:16:32 They record sucks Would you know when a superman Falcons? We pull it out your New York Giants did a lot more with a lot less. That's true. That is true. You dig? That is true. We can pull it out. The Jets, I'm going to be quiet.
Starting point is 01:16:49 The Steelers, too. The Steelers, too. I'm going to be quiet on that. The Steelers have had horrible seasons. The Chiefs and the Rams are looking tough, though. The Chiefs and the Rams are looking tough. They are looking tough. They are looking tough.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yep, yep. I mean. I'm not from New York. I don't want to. I mean, the Bears don't look bad mean the Bears The Bears don't look bad either The Bears don't They don't look that bad You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:17:10 A lot of these motherfuckers Be goddamn willing They like A lot of these They have such a strong fan following That they will the team to win And in Atlanta
Starting point is 01:17:21 There's so much shit going on man Y'all ain't winning They ain't winning by hand So I don't go on I'm thinking it's just They part You know what I'm saying Oh I see the Raiders fans to win. And in Atlanta, there's so much shit going on, man. Y'all ain't winning, they ain't winning by hand, so I don't go on, I think it's just day part. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I seen the Raiders fans
Starting point is 01:17:29 the other day we landed, and all the Raiders fans was there. Yo, I've never seen that before. I was like, yo, so what y'all do?
Starting point is 01:17:35 They said, we just come to watch the game, and I'm like, y'all don't go to a club? They're like, no. Where they go? They just go,
Starting point is 01:17:42 and they just come to the city. Like, this is a real tailgater. Like football is fucking like a cult following for real. Like they'll die with you. If you want to say your move. They're pretending real.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Maybe. But I ain't going to lie, I believed them that night. You did? That night. They had their faces painted, didn't they? In my mind they had their faces painted. But T.I., man, once again, man. But what I was trying to tell you before you interrupted me,
Starting point is 01:18:08 we got into this other tension. Okay, sorry. You know what I'm saying? I want to, you know, stay focused and consolidate. I want to consolidate our attention to the fact that this is the first album that I have a favorite song. I need to know that favorite song is it with Anderson peak that is a great song that is a great song but not the favorites my little
Starting point is 01:18:36 brother and I love him alone I feel like he's one of the most phenomenal talents we have of the next generation okay Do I get two tries or you just want to throw it out there? Go ahead, man, you can go try it again. Laugh at him. Laugh at him, man, you know, that puts a smile on my face every day. That's what Dave Chappelle, that's what Dave Chappelle, he was at the beginning of that, he said, that's that dirty, dirty right there.
Starting point is 01:18:57 It's a true, I mean, it's a true testament to lyricism and to tenacious emceeing. Yes. You know what I'm saying? You said the secretary. But that's not, that's not, that's not, that's not. Get the word from the secretary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not afraid.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I gotta get, I gave up now. Okay, so my favorite is Light Day. I said that earlier. And you know why? My son produced it. Uh-huh. That's dope. Light Day. Man, you know why? My son produced it. That's dope. Light day.
Starting point is 01:19:30 My son, Messiah, produced it. And you was like, that's a light day. You was talking some fake Willie shit, but that's a light day. Yeah, my son produced it. Wow, which son? Messiah, my oldest son. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:46 The one you at least expect to be. You're have myself to do some shit right now. The one you at least expect to be involved or participate in the business. Hi. I love you, Chattanooga. Thank you, thank you bro. Love, love. So you gotta give me this. You gotta give me this.
Starting point is 01:19:57 That's my favorite record, man. And I feel like. My son just told me he started doing music, right? Excellent. And I denied the shit out of him. I said, you gotta relax, nigga. No. You know what you do. You know what you do. When you said. That And I denied the shit out of him. I said, you got to relax, nigga. No. You know what you do.
Starting point is 01:20:07 You know what you do. That was the wrong move to y'all. All of us, all of us that are in this position to have our own kind of esteem or claim or our own persona in music, our own legacy, when our children tell us that they're doing it, who you should say? Oh yeah? Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And walk off. I feel like I'm a boxer. Like I don't want my kids boxing. I feel like I'm half a boxer, half a stripper. First of all. No, because when we performing, damn shit. First of all. First of all.
Starting point is 01:20:42 I'm sorry, I went too far. I went too far. First of all, let me see your contract next time. I want to look that over before you. It's the same moves, I'm just kidding. No. So, the reason why I feel like we should kind of like just acknowledge it but not acknowledge it is to see how serious they are about it. So how did your son come to you with the beat? He had the beat already?
Starting point is 01:21:10 First of all he asked me To get a piece of equipment of mine fixed A long time ago He just asked me to get it fixed And I was like okay cool I gave him the number to my engineer And my engineer got it fixed for him I never thought back about it Then he said let me hold $500.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I said, why? That's how they do it. He said, I almost got enough to buy this beat machine. It's a beat machine called The Machine. And he said, I almost got enough to buy this beat machine. I need about $500 more. Then he said, I need $500 more so they can put a brush on it. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Brush on it? Yeah. He already had the order. So I gave brush on it. That's what he said. Brush on it? Yeah. He already had the order. So I gave it to him. You know what I'm saying? And then maybe three, four months later he brought me, he saw sending me beats. And when I heard it I was like, who did this? Where you get this from?
Starting point is 01:22:01 He said, I did it. I said, no, you didn't. Send me another one. And he sent me another one. where you get this from? He said, I did it. I said, no, you didn't. Send me another one. And he sent me another one. And he kept sending them to me. T.I. is not only one of the greatest MCs, he's not only the king trap guard, he's not only the king of the south,
Starting point is 01:22:16 but he's one of the greatest fathers in the motherfucking existence. That's a beautiful story. I don't wanna give you no love, you might go all day with you. I don't wanna give you no love, let's go all day with you. I don't want to give you no love. Let's do some drops and a picture, and then we go. God damn it.
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