Drink Champs - Episode 147 w/ Hakim Green (Channel Live), Rated R, Ike (Def Jam) & the D.C. Family

Episode Date: November 22, 2018

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this Thanksgiving episode the guys link up with Hakim Green of Channel Live, platinum producer Rated R, Ike of Def jam Recordings and the Drink Champs fami...ly to discuss current events and everything they are grateful for. Happy Thanksgiving from the Drink Champs family! Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:34 And your number one source for drunk facts. It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be, homies? What it soon be? It's your boy N.O.R.E. What up? It's DJ E.F.M. And this is Drink Champs Thanksgiving. Make some noise!
Starting point is 00:03:04 Right now, I usually do a crazy intro. You know, we got three guests that's joining us besides the family people that's here. Usually, you give a crazy intro, but what I would rather do this time is Thanksgiving. So, I would like, you know, everyone, I'm going to pass the mic to the people that's, you know, that's our guests. So, we're going to start with my brother to the left, Hakeem Green. Okay. Yes, Hakeem Green, Chow, live, live and direct, BDP all day, every motherfucking day. All we do is spark the mad ism.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Woo! Yeah. Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:03:36 Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:03:40 Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:03:44 Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Introduce yourself. This is Ike from Def Jam. I'm just here. Family. That's right. Goddamn make some noise. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Rated R. It's Rated R here, Multi Platter Productions.
Starting point is 00:03:51 What mic are you speaking into? It's Rated R, Multi Platter Productions. I'm here with all my brothers. That's right. And I'm very grateful because not everybody can make it to the next Thanksgiving. That's right. Amen. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Sal right. Salute. Salute. Salute, fellas. Before we jump into the thing, I want y'all to know that Drink Champ is going on our two-year anniversary on Revolt.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I believe in three years. Three years. Three years altogether. It's incredible, man. But it's a two-year anniversary on Revolt. So we're going to give thanks to that. But before we even move on, I want to just pass the mic from the right to the left and just be honest. Thanksgiving. I want everyone to say something that they're thankful for.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Start with you, Paul. What's going on on my name is paul this is drink chance sports y'all heard me out there throughout the three years i love nori i love earfriend for the motivation salute to everybody at the table dream big hip-hop podcast salute that's it that's what you grateful now i want to give a shout out to everybody that's subscribing to me and i want to give a shout out to the hip-hop that's's actually accepting us as a part of the culture. This is a hip hop culture drink chance. NRE and Nori has added on to the hip hop culture. NRE and Nori?
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. And Nori. We're moving forward. And it is what it is. But the culture has accepted everything that we're doing. And it's a fucking blessing. Salute. Yo, shout out to my God kids.
Starting point is 00:05:04 His kids are my godkids. Aw. Come on, man. Shout out to all six of my kids. Aw. Six? Yeah, I ain't fucking wrong. Tiara, Didi, Aliyah, Carlos, Madison, and Deebo.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Holla at your boy. Yeah, we got you. We got you. We got you. We got you. Well, you just had a new kid and you got a new house, so I'm guessing. A new house? I mean, new house had a new kid and you got a new house, so I'm guessing. A new house? I mean, new house.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It's a new house? Or you bought the whole house? How does this go? I mean, I've been here for like a year already. All right, all right, all right. Still is new, no? Still is new. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:05:34 No, no, no. I'm just- That's what you're grateful for? I'm grateful just that I have a healthy baby. Congratulations. I didn't dig your dick work for years. For years. For years.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I'm so happy for you. Because I know you've been going wrong a couple of work for years. For years. I'm so happy for you. Because I know you've been going wrong a couple of things for years. And it's not been working out for you. Me and Trojan was tight. I'm just playing. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It's a joke. No, no. I mean, look, man. If anything, that's all I'm really grateful for, man. Thank you for having a healthy baby. And I love my baby girl, man. And I just live for her now. It's a whole different life right now that's what's up man straight up yeah I'm just grateful for having a beautiful family my son who's
Starting point is 00:06:16 autistic is talking better than ever so just to be alive man just to be alive with money with no money. You know what I'm saying? We got all these beautiful people around us. You know, like I said, things are going so crazy these days that you're getting phone calls. People are dying on us. So at the end of the day, man, every day is worth a million.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And so are you. Respect. Respect. Sonny D, DT. Are you welcome for the, what is it? Sonny, don't say no wow. The flea market? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Sonny going to be thankful for the health medical. I'm thankful for the Drink Champs family, my own family, to be alive, to be relatively healthy, and just thankful for opportunity because we're all here. We all have some type of opportunity. And we need to be grateful for it. So I'm glad I'm here with you guys. And I'm just thankful that, hey, we're living for another day. We're living a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's it. All right. Good job. You all right? I ain't condemned you as that. Oh, man, I'm thankful for health. I'm thankful for my wealth. I'm thankful for my freedom.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm thankful for health, I'm thankful for my wealth, I'm thankful for my freedom. I'm thankful for good people around me, man. I'm thankful that we can wake up every day and go do what we want to do and how we want to do it. You know, it could always be worse, but you know, I'm thankful for the small things. Because you know what? Tomorrow ain't promised for nobody. And everybody getting locked up, all this bullshit, I'm just happy to be out. Indeed. And be happy to be with my family tomorrow. Go ahead, fellas.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Go ahead, Twin. Oh, man, I'm definitely grateful to be here. A couple days is going to mark two years since my tragic accident. So it's been a roller coaster. I was in a very dark place, and now I'm finally happy again. You know, I'm driving. I'm doing what I did back when I was in a very dark place and now I'm finally happy again. You know, I'm driving, I'm doing what I did back when, when I was normal, nothing changed. You know what I'm saying? I'm really grateful for that because, you know, it was, it's very, from being, um, able
Starting point is 00:08:16 body to disabled is very, is hard. You know, you have to, um, be very strong minded to, to keep your head up there but I'm thankful for having you guys that it's been my and my family that has been my number one support through this whole thing and I'm thankful for that and if and if it wasn't for you guys I would not be here and it won't be no DC twins so you already know Mad Twin is back in full effect, EDM. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Man, I'm thankful for family. I'm thankful for my wife, Jasmine. You know, we going on two years married in February, which
Starting point is 00:08:55 is also my birthday. So I'm thankful for another year of life, about to touch 50. It's big right now. You know, and I'm thankful I got that what's app text from Nori saying, yo, come join us on Thursday. You know what I mean? Respect. got that what's app text from Norris To be in position say don't Make class aka to reach a kid. I wrote I'm more L, you know what I mean? I'm very thankful to be amongst the fam here, you know what I mean? This is an honor, you know, because I come from the age of the real hip hop and when
Starting point is 00:09:36 there was no bullshit allowed, now we watered down a little bit. But like I say, this right here, DJ FN, that's the fam, you know what I mean? We go way back like car seats You know My man Nori, you know, we go for that my man awkward. He gave me the course of your I'm coming to the dream champs I need you to come through, you know, I gotta come represent for the Moors Haz speak from back there? Yeah. Haz never come back though. You gotta let Haz have a voice, man. Yeah, man. What's up with Haz, man?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Come on, man. Yeah, come on. Pull up. Pull up. Make sure it keeps recording. Don't touch that flame. Yo, what up? It's Haz.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Haz with the sounds. Y'all already know what it is. Thankful for my life, my family, you know what I'm saying? My two boys. Boy, you all right over there? Yeah, boy. All of it. Boy, I want to give my two sons a shout out,
Starting point is 00:10:26 because they listen to the show sometimes. Christian, Isaiah, Isaac, Elias, I love you all. You all are the reason why I do what I do. And I just want to give thanks for life, for health, and all you all. You all are my brothers. Much love. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:39 All right. All right. Boys. You want to give the team an opportunity? Yeah. What you doing about that, boys? Boys, you want to talk in Spanish? In Peruvian English?
Starting point is 00:10:47 You already know. Super thing. Come on. Nah, nah, nah, Bobby. Nah, Boris, come and say something. Come on, man. Don't be extra, though. Speak English, man.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Speak English. He better speak English. You could have gone right there, but it's OK. You can go right there. Nah, you're my. That's right. You're good. He likes your mic, buddy.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'm thankful to have you guys as a family, you know what I'm saying? I thank you and you know what I'm saying? He already knows. You know what I'm saying? And I thank everybody, you know what I'm saying, for giving me a lot of opportunities to be here, you know what I'm saying? You know what you're saying. I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Keep going, keep going, man. You have to see. Yo, it's like that. Alright, well look at this. He's a little grown right here. He's still growing strong. He's been the same size since he was 13. Oh, there you go. He grew up around, we might have raised him a little wrong, but he grew up.
Starting point is 00:11:44 We tried our best. I see Morris taking ecstasy at 13. The Miami boys, god damn it. Kev, you good over there? You got any thank yous, man? What we thank you to have you here. Can we speak on the intro for real? Oh, you coming to that roster? Let's do this, brother. Come right there. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Mic check. Just thankful for the Drink Champs family. Thanks for my family that's here. Thankful for, you know, everybody that's giving me the opportunity to grow. Everybody that's acknowledging the opportunity of growth. And yeah, let's keep it moving. Shout out to my girls. Anybody else in the room want to say anything? Sure?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, come on. Well, you know, ultimately we want to thank the Dream Champs Army that has supported us from day one. Without y'all, we wouldn't be here today. And ultimately, myself, I want to say thank you, hip-hop, period. You know what I'm saying? Because it provided opportunities for us. I want to say be thankful to hip-hop as well.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Thank you to the Dream Champs family. Thank you to my real family. Thank you to everybody that's been a real rollercoaster these past couple of years, seeing ups and downs and betweens and everything. But we're here and we're still representing hip-hop. We're still putting hip-hop on our shoulders
Starting point is 00:12:56 and putting hip-hop first. That's what I'm thankful for, just us being on the front line and putting our own careers on the line. A lot of people don't know, we did this for six to a year, almost a year without even getting paid. We was actually spending our own money, but we believed in hip hop so much. And even though we wasn't getting the recognition up front, we knew the impact and what the impact was mean. So I'm very grateful for that. So with that, I'm going to call a couple of hip hop friends.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Let's see who picks up right now. It's good. Let's see who picks up right now. Let's see what they're grateful for. Let's see what they grateful for. God damn it, the Paula's ready. That bottle's insane. That bottle look like you ready to. That shit is scary. That bottle look like it comes with a two by four. That shit ain't nothing gentleman about this check.
Starting point is 00:13:36 This is for everybody, not for me. Hold up, hold up, everybody. What's going on? It's Styles P, the Ghost Make Some Noise. Yo, Styles P, yo, check this out man this is Thanksgiving so we just going around asking everybody what they thankful for. I'm thankful to be breathing. I'm thankful for family.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I'm thankful for the creator first and foremost and him making me breathe. I'm thankful for music. I'm thankful for weed. I'm thankful for music. I'm thankful for weed. I'm thankful for house. I'm thankful for hip-hop, definitely. I'm thankful for good brothers, like y'all on the drink champs. I'm
Starting point is 00:14:14 thankful for a lot, man. I'm thankful for so much. My list is very, very long, but what I'm thankful for. Oh, man. Styles, man, as a person who sees you from the beginning to now, I gotta thank you for, you know, your evolution and your growth as a person. I could just see, I sort of changed, man, Styles, man, as a person who's seen you from the beginning to now, I got to thank you for, you know, your evolution and your growth as a person. I could just see I sort of changed like personally. So I want to thank you, man, because, you know, you're an inspiration to me.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Thank you, brother. Ditto, man. Same here, man. You know, you know how it is out there. We got to all grow, try to mature. And like you said, you know, a lot of a lot of a lot of us didn't make it. A lot of us locked up. A lot of us dead, a lot of us in a bad situation. So you got to just kind of be thankful to be breathing a lot. So just so. And keep tweeting.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Your tweets give life. That's right. Your tweets give life. Thank you, man. You know what I mean? You know, I like talking shit. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Thank you, Styles P. Well, happy Thanksgiving, Styles like talking shit. I love it. I love it. Thank you, Styles P. Wow. Well, happy Thanksgiving, Styles. Word up. Yeah, man, for sure. Y'all need my slippers, though, man. Oh, yeah. I got you.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I got you. You know what? We on back order. No, we on back order. That's true. I forgot my old slippers. You know what? I got you.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I got you. Patrick Ewing. Yo, I got you. What size are you? What size are you, Patrick Ewing? Nine? Yeah, like, I'm a nine. Oh, I got that. I got that for you. All right. We got that. What size are you? What size are you a Patrick Ewan? Nine? Yeah, like I'm a nine. Oh, I got that.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I got that for you. All right, we got that. All right, Styles, happy Thanksgiving. Love y'all. All right, love, love. Happy holidays. Love, all right, peace. So, make some noise for Styles for you.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Hey! Cheers! To the Jews, I'm saying. Let's try one more call, then we're going to go to Capone after. Because also it's the CNN You know, I didn't know one 18 years I didn't know that's the same day as my father's birthday I totally forgot. Yeah, so my father yesterday Hello Hello
Starting point is 00:16:15 Call a couple of rappers yeah, we call call last week right he could think some people Yo, what's going on? It's Jim Jones and Drink Champs. Make some noise. Jim Jones, we calling everybody to see what they thankful for. But before I ask you what you thankful for, I want to say a big congratulations to you guys out there in that Diplomat Tour bus. You guys out there with that big concert happening tonight. You know what I'm saying? And that album.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I want to say congratulations, my brother. Oh, man, thank you very much, man. It's been a long time coming, so thank you, my brother, for real. Absolutely, man. You know, we know the album come out today, and this episode is out today, so we wanted to just ask you real quick, what are you thankful for on this Thanksgiving? Oh, shit, I'm thankful to still be here.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'm thankful for my family, my son, my lady, my mom. I'm thankful for my diplomat brothers, man, to see us back together and on one accord in communication. And being there is a very dope thing. I mean, and to be in this game, man, you know, like I know Bernie needs to be here 20 years later. So I'm thankful, man.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Hell yeah, man. And I heard you quarterbacking the whole Dipset thing. I'm hearing you're A&Ring it and everything. Yeah, I mean, bro, I had to put my working hat on for this album, but it was a great experience, man, just to be able to see my brothers working in action and just putting it together was all fun and meat fast.
Starting point is 00:17:46 It was great. Well, definitely we're going to let the people know to get that diplomatized, right? Go get that. Go get that. Go get that. Diplomaticize. Diplomaticize. Yes, today.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And congratulations on everything. If you're in that New York City area, make sure you go out there and go see him at the world famous Apollo. God damn it. Make some noise for Jim Jones. God damn it. Yeah, man for Jim Jones. God damn it. Yo, thank you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, y'all. Every year on the Yonday, we gonna do it. My nigga, thank you. All right, one love. One. You know what I'm saying? We got hip hop.
Starting point is 00:18:20 All right, so before we jump into the next, let me just get this other phone call knocked out the way because Capone and Noriega just turned 18 years old on our second album. Real head high. Real head high. Classics. Yo, yo, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Capone is on the phone, make some noise! Yeah! What's happening, what's happening? Yo, you had an album that turned 18 years old today. How you feeling? Yeah, man, I'm feeling blessed, man. I'm feeling real blessed, man, because the album was monumental right there for me.
Starting point is 00:18:50 That was my baby as soon as I came home from jail, you know what I'm saying? So I'm feeling real blessed. Right, right, right, man. I remember that day you came home from jail, baby. You smelled like Cork Craft soap. Y'all do that. Most of that album is a here and there.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Wait, wait Capone You heard EFN's question Say it again Most of that album Was recorded here in Miami At Hip Factory Say that again He asked if most of that album
Starting point is 00:19:15 Reunion was recorded I remember I was there I'm not asking the question I'm telling you The answer No, we did most of it But we did a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:22 Sound on Sound too So you did half and half Yeah, half and half I remember the whole skit Of Wet Willies was after we went to Wet Willies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with Tyson Besser. We were super saucy that day. Right, right, right. That skit was so real, though.
Starting point is 00:19:35 That skit was really bad. Yo, so Paul, on this Thanksgiving, we just asked everybody what they're thankful for on Thanksgiving, so we know we had to ask you as well. Yeah, no doubt. You know what I'm saying? I'm thankful for just being alive, man. Thankful being alive. Thankful to have my family.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Thankful having great people on my corner, you know what I'm saying, to keep me grounded, you know what I'm saying? I'm just thankful that, you know, I just live to see another day, man. That's all you can do. As long as you wake up, you just be thankful for the man above the man above man world up man. Well, congratulations on that 18 years You know, you got a 21 this year. We got a 20 I'm turning 21 years old. So I'm officially drink. You know I'm saying Yo Paul good seeing you man, you'll tell your family happy holidays everything, man. And hopefully we get to see you up here soon. No doubt, family. I love y'all.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I love y'all too. One love. Come on, make some noise. All right, now that we got that all out the way, this is when I want to dig into hot topics or fucking current events. First off, first off, first off, first off, everybody make sure that door closes. I want a moment of silence for Kim Porter real fast, real quick.
Starting point is 00:20:57 God bless Kim Porter. God bless. That was shocking. You know what I'm saying? I don't really want to get into that because I don't know the details. It's kind of a sketchy situation. But I do want to say rest in peace to the Porter family. Rest in peace to the Combs family. Condolences to both sides. You know, whatever happens. But moving on, I want to get into something that we all indulge in. This is Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:21:18 What the fuck is going on with Tekashi69? That's for Thanksgiving? Yeah, man. Hey, yo, you got to have some juicy. Listen, man. What are you saying? For Thanksgiving. First of all, a good friend of mine, Fat Joe, schooled him. I don't know if you've seen that.
Starting point is 00:21:35 That clip is a haunting clip, to be honest with you. He said the feds are plotting on you. That's what the Feds need to do. Teach, please. Teach, please, trust me. So, what year you came into the game? 87.
Starting point is 00:21:52 87? What year you came in? 94, 95. Okay, so you first. All right, cool. Have you ever seen
Starting point is 00:21:59 something like this unfold in the industry? Like, I've seen shit like this unfold where kids don't know what they're doing in the hood, but I've never seen somebody do this on television. It's the first time like where people promote the wrong subject I'm the solo. What second hold on one second. I love fat Jonah dog
Starting point is 00:22:19 Water you've had you You're listening wow Yo, listen, you're the hottest guy on viral internet right now. We're talking about the Kasi 6ix9ine. So what did you feel when you see that your video went viral for some advice that you gave this kid? Man, I felt, actually I felt bad that it went viral. Because of something, you know, that it went viral because of something. You know, this kid might go to jail forever, man. Right. You know, so I felt bad that that was the reason I went viral.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Right. You know what I mean? But, you know, I try to warn the kid, man, and I met him a couple of times. I ain't going to lie to you. He's a good kid. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I don't wish that lie to you. He's a good kid. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I don't wish that on my head.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He told us that after the interview, yeah. Yeah, so I couldn't, you know, I feel bad for the kid, man. I really do. Right, right. I ain't going to lie to you. You know what I'm saying? No, no doubt. So, Fat Joe, we called on everybody, asking them what they're thankful for this Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So, we just got to ask you that as well. I'm thankful that you're my brother. You're one of my best friends on the planet Earth. I love you, kid. I love your wife. I love drink chat. And let's eat plenty turkey tomorrow. Let's do it, man.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Make the noise. I'll see you tomorrow, brother. God bless. All right, one more. All right, yo, so he was getting to you, right? Have you ever seen that? What I mean is, I've seen gimmicks before.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I've seen people, you know, do things that you know they're not about their life. I've never seen nobody go this far to this furthest step in front of this type of audience, have you? Nah, I haven't seen none of that. Like, this kid just has a show, like for everything. All his moves, you know. I kind of feel like he moves like 50.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You know what I mean? I see his mechanisms, where he goes. I met the kid personally. I was lucky to meet him at Swiss's event. You know, shout out to Big Swiss doing good things. But I met him, and I had a great conversation with him. So I already knew the kid knows what he's doing. But, you know, as far as promoting promoting suck my dick and all that other stuff, like, that's wild, man. Cause like, you know, your sons are gonna quote tell you,
Starting point is 00:24:29 dad, suck my dick, if they keep listening to this. So this is where I see it goes left. So that's something I think he should work on, and that has to do, like we were talking before, is his peers. His team is supposed to do, you know, direct him into the right order. Yeah, you hear him though?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Cause it don't seem like he's still, yeah? Okay, yeah. So, Ike, you being an executive at a record label, and especially, this kid is at Universal, so Universal is basically your parent company of Def Jam, correct? They own Def Jam, right? Yeah, so if he was your
Starting point is 00:25:05 artist how would you like you to win about this? That's tough man you know you can't really tell a grown man what to do these days. Well he's not a grown man. I'm saying but you know in this day and age you know these kids you can't even tell kids what to do. That's true. That's true. Especially with social media you can only you know you can do like Fat Joe did and did and try to help him out and speak to him, but at the end of the day, everybody will make their own decisions. If the corporate structure is making money off it, are they going to intervene at all? Of course, to an extent.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I'm not saying it like that, but it depends. That's a tricky situation because I don't think people were paying attention the way we are because we see it every day on social media and this is this is this is our culture so we look at it and we pay attention to it I think more than the higher ups are doing because you know we see it more than they are where we are part of it yeah we want to bring my kids on to breath and this is this is what
Starting point is 00:25:59 they're looking up to so we're aware of what's going on by the minute right so you know I think it's a different aspect of who's watching it who's paying more attention and I'm sure to be honest and at the end of the day nobody thought it would have gotten serious nobody thought the feds were gonna come get him really nobody thought I'm just saying to that like the way I mean the way that the dude was talking and the way the dude was moving like I mean I think he ain't the first one to move like that and talk like that and it hasn't been the first one that hasn't been approached by the feds to know but but here's the problem the problem when the first first got involved with hip-hop is it was it was what I saw police in the whole world
Starting point is 00:26:34 on the hip hop police been involved but the when feds got involved that's because hip hop police wasn't making cases when the feds got involved was a shooting case it was a shooting between you know our dream mafia Mafia and Doug Dottman Entertainment. When the feds can actually pinpoint a case and actually when Kim, you know, gave them the information, the feds has had a hard-on for hip-hop since. And they've been wanting to show people examples.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Bobby Shmurda was fortunately, it was fortunately for him, was state. Because even though it could be a body, if it's not crossing a certain lines, the feds won't pick it up. The feds picked this up because of the trafficking. Yeah, the interstate trafficking. The feds was like, and RICO. And to put it in perspective, RICO are usually cases that are applied to the mafia or mob.
Starting point is 00:27:23 No, that's how it was invented. But here's the deal. Here's the deal. It's five or more members who claim the same name. So how about you, Hawk? You know what, Hawk, about you? I don't know if I'm correct what I'm about to say, but you guys came in a game where there was no gimmicks.
Starting point is 00:27:41 You had to be nice. Yeah, no, you definitely had to be nice. You had to be nice. In terms of the rap game, you had to be nice yeah no you definitely had like in terms of the rap game you had to be creative you had to be original you had to come up right you know i'm saying it wasn't you can't just hop in the game because what a lot of people don't know sorry to cut you off a lot of people don't know because kashi69 is like dmx and onyx and he reminds me of tupac a little bit too. Well, he gonna be Tupac now.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, unfortunately. And he got a little singing to him, I don't know. Paul came here drunk, man. It's just unfortunate because we live in a shock value culture. You know what I'm saying? I was a school teacher. You know what I'm saying? So like, when I came in the game, it was like, you know, I came up on the KRS-One, 2Ds, all that. You know what I'm saying? It was like a responsibility to live by a certain ethic. You know what I mean? And you see that change over time. I think Tekashi right now
Starting point is 00:28:36 is just like the epitome of that. Like, he's going to do whatever. Say whatever, do whatever just to get the shock value, get the likes, get the hits. And it was working. Yeah, and it was working, but like you said, you have these terms that classify groups of people, and you gotta watch what you say, you gotta watch how you move, you know what I mean? So, other people could be doing stuff,
Starting point is 00:28:55 and we just don't like y'all, and we wanna grab all y'all. We could just name it whatever, and come on, let's get it poppin'. Did you see the Our Breakfast Club interview with him? Yeah, you know what, And I was extremely impressed. I seen another clip of him on YouTube when he's in DR. He's a smart-ass kid, man.
Starting point is 00:29:11 He's a smart guy. He's been in philosophy and metaphysics. And I'm like, wow. So for me, the whole thing was a gimmick. You know what I'm saying? I like some of his records. You think it was a gimmick, you said? No, but it's definitely gimmicky.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It's gimmicky because I'm trying to do something to get a whole bunch of likes right now. If you pay attention to the indictment, what it actually says was after the Breakfast Club interview, because he denounced his boys, which you should never do. You could distance yourself without dissing your boys. His original management, which was the gangsters. The gangsters. So when he did that, the feds actually came and got him and said, yo, listen, we're coming to get you because they were going to do you filthy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah, they actually said they were going to super violate you. That is some super New York shit. Like, when you use the word super, that's some straight, like, you got super, just like that. Super. That's some straight New York shit. So, when the feds came to him and said, they said they was going to super violate you. He said on an interview that they was going to get his mom.
Starting point is 00:30:12 That was the promoters. That was the promoters. Yeah, he was talking about how they promoted him. I've never seen somebody like, I mean, other than Kanye. What I mean by Kanye, Kanye didn't lose his mind as far as, I'm talking about culture currency, like what Talib said. And culture currency meaning, like in the culture, where people like, how can you spend your money? I've never seen a kid who had the whole world in his hands. People tell him, you're going to fall. And him tell him, suck his hands. In his hands. People tell him, you're going to fall.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And him tell him, suck his dick. And it still worked, though. We're laughing now, but it still worked. His numbers was, he was 10 for 10. The kid wasn't lying.
Starting point is 00:30:55 He was 10 for 10 on the billboard. I know people who can't get on the billboard who's platinum. But isn't that indicative of today's social media age where it's like, I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:31:04 whatever worked for me to get these followers These like those and it's fucked up But that it has to be example of where that goes Next week, I don't give a fuck Here's the deal when you a drug dealer you doing something bad there's examples of Of a bad drug dealer and where he ends up at there's examples in the gravesite of a bad drug dealer and where he ends up at. There's examples in the gravesite of a bad drug dealer. There isn't no example of a troll going too far. And this will be the first one.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And it's fucked up. Troll culture. This will be for the troll culture. He's the first troll. He's the first one that won. That won to the... He's the first one. Kim is getting $180,000.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I've been in this game 20 years. I've never got a show for $180,000. $180,000 for a show? $180,000. I've been in this game 20 years. I've never got a show for $180,000. $180,000 for a show? $180,000, bro. I've been in a show for 20 years. I've never got a show for $180,000. I got one. It was for like the Prince of Arabia or some shit. It was private.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It was like some dumb shit like that. I won $180,000. I'm just throwing that out there. It was like $100,000. He's good. But what I'm trying to say is that was his normal price. So he was the first example of it actually working, of it trolling and it actually working. Have you ever did that? I worked with an artist that you didn't agree with their method or their music or their output. Or was that even the strategy at the point?
Starting point is 00:32:23 No, I don't think so. Because you know what? At the same time, you got to let an artist be creative. If that at a point? Nah, I don't think so. Because you know what, at the same time, you got to let an artist be creative. If that's how they're creative, you can't. So, you know, I'm there to do a job. And you know, the relationship after that is a bonus. So, you know, I just do my job
Starting point is 00:32:35 and try to do the best and, you know, try to relate to the artist that you're dealing with. But, you know, I've never gotten involved in that or tried to tell an artist what to do. Like I said, that's their creative side. That's how they're going to promote themselves or that's, you know, a've never gotten involved in that or trying to tell an artist what to do. Like I said, that's their creative side. That's how they're going to promote theirself or that's a part of their plan. What can you say?
Starting point is 00:32:51 Last time I was hanging out with you and Casanova, you had beef at first before you got cool, right? I know you got beef. That's my brother. You kidding me? You kidding me? What happened at first? At first, you had many friends?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Nah, it was just some bullshit, man. Cas, my man, man. Cas is a great guy. Cas, my brother. Great guy. I like the Cas man. But Kass, my man, man. Yeah, Kass is a great guy. Shout out to Kass, my brother. Great guy. And I like the Kass stare. He's a brand new man, for real. I like his stares on when everyone, when Tekashi actually got locked up.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And he was the one to step up and be like, why is everyone happy that this was? Once you get to know him, at least Kass, he's a genuine dude. He means well by everyone. He was great on the show. Yeah, you know, he has character. I was on the road with him for a few days. Had a blast. That's my man.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Big shout out. Moving on. Snoop Dogg receives a Hollywood star. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. To tell you the truth. This is the 100% honest truth. When I looked at Snoop Dogg has a star on my timeline,
Starting point is 00:33:50 I skipped it because I thought it was old. I thought it was old because I swear to God, I thought he better have a star. Because doesn't Pharrell have a star? With no disrespect to Pharrell, I love him. There's actors that get stars from Pharrell. I love you, Pharrell. But Snoop, Snoop, Snoop deserves it. So what do you think about when you see that?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Snoop is a great person. Every time I see him, it's all love. So for me, he should have been had a star. I thought he did have a star. He's so much California. He's so much California. Why wouldn't he be first up to that? Snoop is a great guy.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Congratulations to him. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
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Starting point is 00:38:25 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. B one two and three on may 21st and episodes four five and six on june 4th ad free at lava for good plus on apple podcasts and he thanked himself too in the speech. It was dope. It was dope. Yeah, yeah. Dream Chance alumni, by the way. That's right. Ike, what you think about Snoop Dogg having a star? I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Well-deserved, you know. I was happy. Like, I think he represented this culture for a long time. He reinvented himself so many times. He been deserved
Starting point is 00:39:01 that star. All right. Definitely. Snoop is an icon. He been through hell. Come on, man. He been through that star high definitely This is the first guest ever. The actual tiger bar? The actual, by first name. You know that?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Jesus, yeah. Well, you know, that's herbs. And you, because you on your vegan, I seen you this morning, you was cleaning greens. Yeah, definitely. You know not to touch romaine lettuce. No, no, no. No doubt. Don't touch the romaine.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Right. What happened with the romaine lettuce? I don't understand. It said it was so I had a big bowl of spinach today too, so. Is that Romaine? No, no, no, no. Paul's about to shit his brains out right now. Romaine is that seasoned salad. Oh, you're about to pour it out like it's peanut cream. Give him a cup, a shot glass.
Starting point is 00:40:16 A shot glass. Can we take a shot of this? Where's the haze? Why not? Fuck it, let's do it. Thanksgiving, let's take a shot. Yay! What? Let's do it. Thanks. Let's take a shot. Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay!
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay!
Starting point is 00:40:29 I'm going to be honest. I had some great sea bass. So I kept burping. Now we're ruining your sea bass now. I kept burping sea bass. Like, it tastes so good. Tiger Bone is going to ruin this. He's going to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:40:39 He's going to ruin it. Yeah, see, he knows how to pour. See, at least the old brother knows what a Moor is. He's a Moor. He's a Moor. The Moor, fast the Moor, man. Okay, and the Moors is the people who conquered Italy, correct? Yeah, they conquered Italy. The Moors conquered Spain.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Hannibal was a Moor. Yeah. You talking about my shit? You talking about my shit? Gangers, Conners, and Moors. Gangers, Conners, and Moors Gangers, congas, and more. Look, I'm gonna fully warn y'all. Take off your motherfucking coats. Take off your hats.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Why? Because once the time comes, we'll be there. We'll be there for the first show. Can I get some water? Do we got water? I can pour you something to cup. You know, you know, Nye's supposed to get the other day. Thank ready. You know, you know Nye's supposed to get the other day, pour you some in the cup. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You know Nye's supposed to get the other day. My man. Thank you. He put more. He put more. Well, you know, more was just a turn we were using before we were using the black Negro colors. Those are both my cups though, sir, but I'll give it to you.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Both of them? Yeah, because that's how I know my cup from everybody else. You gotta give him more, son. We'll give him more. We'll give him more. Yeah, like I was saying, more is just a title that we were using before Christopher Lumbers and these guys. cup from everybody else you gotta give him a look at more yeah like I was saying boys just a title that we were using before my Christopher numbers and these
Starting point is 00:41:49 guys came here before we started on us on Negroes blacks colors Indians only more just meant dark skin this is mine in Latin when you say dark skinned woman is more than not No. Damn. No. No. You just screwed up. Oh, damn. More like if you Puerto Rican, you know what I mean? That before the United States got incorporated, Puerto Rico used to be the island of Boricuano, which is the Boricuano Moors. I mean, that's where the word Boricua come from. These are the large, good times.
Starting point is 00:42:19 So let me ask you a question. When they said the Moors invaded Spain, they said it was like Islam also handle it's like you're talking about Alive at that time. Well, you know Islam is a difference. Yeah, I'm a Muslim that predates the Muslim So We were conquering everywhere like like I say Overhead and this part of the turf was known as on prior to the United States getting incorporated over here was known as the Amma could have a lot to which means the Morocco with the farthest class okay so this was the
Starting point is 00:42:53 Empire Morocco ahead and that's that that's the bomb the kingdom of Morocco over there a lot of people don't know that history that's a certain way for you because they wanted to make you Negroes blacks colors and slaves on paper so when you start to sign birth certificates and soldiers you became a slave on paper okay so if I call myself black and in law it means to be a 14th amendment citizen shadow property slave. Damn! Yes I mean guys this is just a research I will look up you know what I mean so. You like John Leguizamo. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. You're drinking you got a shot? I think my shots too big
Starting point is 00:43:30 listen listen listen please please please please please please please, I got a speech, please, please. Please, please, please, I got a speech. The other day I went to Denver, right? And when I went to Denver, I remember always going to that part of the world. When I go to Denver, I go to Portland, go to Utah, I go to Arizona, I go to that little park. I go to Utah as well. I don't know if I said that.
Starting point is 00:44:01 But when I went to this Denver and all of these people just from this other parts of these countries about all across the departments to Arizona's the Utah they all DM me it's like yo what's the show at tonight with the show tonight and I realized that he was on tour the first time that I went through these type of states and I didn't have to perform I didn't have to go on stage and shake my ass. That's right. So, so, so... Drink chat, baby! Drink chat! Drink chat!
Starting point is 00:44:27 Salud! Salud! Make your best tiger bone face. Yeah. Oh, I know karate. Do you know karate? Karate. It's like season one.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And we already talked about Snoop, right? Yes, sir. Let's get a push up. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:44:43 What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? Carate. Carate. Carate. Carate. Carate. Carate. It's like season one. And we already talked about Snoop, right? Yes, sir. Let's get a push up. What's good about Snoop? You want to say anything about Snoop? I just think Snoop is a class act,
Starting point is 00:44:53 because he'll stop for everyone. He's been through hell, the shake night, and all that good stuff. So he's a soldier at heart. And he's good to the kids. All day. Yeah. Football ladies.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He's definitely a Sky's Honor for me. Yeah, man. For everything, Sno football. Yeah, man What's the team man, let me just tell you man he looks victorious again like Yeah, what do you think was dick I just saw the video. It just, motherfucker just throwing shit at him. I mean, it just, I don't know, man. It's just, come on, man. What happened? It's lame. The thing you just see me, it was nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:29 It was dangerous. They jumped like somebody tried to get at him, and the bodyguard did their business. I mean, they just throwing that liquids at him. There was a couple of very longies, too. Yeah. I saw, shit T put a comment on Academics page. She says, oh, Academics, don't play, don't play,
Starting point is 00:45:42 don't play me like if that's me on the floor. Nigga, something like that. Yeah, I see that. He said it was somebody else. At the end of the day, I don't think we should even be talking that much about it, because we shouldn't keep pushing any of these beefs. I'm in the back.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Like, stop this shit, dude. I mean, that's to each his own, man. I'm gonna talk about it. No, I'm sorry, I'm just saying. No, no, you're talking, no, no, no. I'm saying, the natural bias would be like, oh, Drake and this and that. Nah, but that's been a hip-hop tradition. When Trick Daddy had beef with a guy named Trick Trick, it was a known fact that when Trick Daddy went out there,
Starting point is 00:46:17 Trick Trick hired people to be in the front desk. Well, Trick Trick actually bought from Mulagro. Trick Trick brought him out. Well, if you don't remember, we said that on Drake Chats. We said that when Prisci T had a sold out show, we wondered if Drake had bought some of these tickets. Because remember, that's where 50 Cent was claiming at the time. So come to find out, if he didn't buy a lot of them tickets,
Starting point is 00:46:40 he bought some of them because these guys were hecklers. They were throwing shit. You're Dominicans, guys. You want to step out? Because y'all throwing us out. Shut the fuck up, all right? All right, so. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So, what I'm saying is they throw the shit. This guy goes on stage. And I'm saying, what does that do? Because can't push a return to favor when Drake comes into town? Can he make it hard for Drake? But Drake is in stadiums There's no way you can Throw a drink at a stadium
Starting point is 00:47:11 I mean you can try You're probably gonna get arrested Honestly I think If you wanna be on some gangsta shit Let's just say some real gangsta shit Fuck doing it in the concert With a fucking phone Do some other shit I'm just saying if you wanna be on some real gangster shit. Fuck doing it in the concert with the fucking phones on. Hotel.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Do some other shit. I'm just saying, we want to be on some gangster shit. It doesn't have to be in front of social media. I mean, I guess we all live with the social media. I think that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to embarrass them. Let me say something, because I was at the Drake show for two days in a row, fully hanging out with them. And them Canadian people were, I felt more like family than the people that we have now
Starting point is 00:47:48 that should be family so not one time being around all of them from you know the boss to the boss of us their name never came up so you know I'm saying something they push a team nothing came up on that with his name come on explain to you why because he was supposed to be expected to bring somebody to crash things and make things crazy
Starting point is 00:48:08 and nothing came up in Miami. You know what I'm saying? You know, a little game playing. A little sublimity. Nothing was said. No, Drake is just as powerful
Starting point is 00:48:15 as Pusha in Miami. Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, Drake is blue out here. Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's just like it was peace in my soul. The social media
Starting point is 00:48:22 kind of brings it out too and really messes up. Well, sometimes you don't know what's really the artist's extension or just fan-dism. Did you get calls from Dem Jam? Or there's no one's allowed? No.
Starting point is 00:48:34 No one really cares? I'm just saying, you know, happy Thanksgiving every month. Because that says a lot. No, I just wonder that. I wonder, like, or do the labels, like, even... To tell you the truth,
Starting point is 00:48:48 when Big died, months after Big died, we all had to go. I think it was a real-world commercial. It was a real-world commercial that we had to do in Vegas. Real-world? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:01 MTV. MTV, yeah. It was a real-world. I might be... My years might be off, but I remember it was something that we had to do's a real world I might be My years might be off But I remember It was something That we had to do
Starting point is 00:49:09 From the real world From the real world We came to LA And as soon as we got to LA They had like Two big security for me And a guy with A thing
Starting point is 00:49:18 What do you call it? A badge? Yeah And I was like It was like It was mandatory Like it was 100% mandatory. What the fuck was Jaws?
Starting point is 00:49:28 If we were, dude. It's like they having fun. They didn't have that fun, niggas. I'm sorry that Crazy Hood partake in this. I remember that. And me looking at the push-ups thing, it almost, I don't want to say looked like that, but it looked like he had some reinforcements that he kind of Pre-empted this would happen. He was prepared for that. He was prepared. Oh, you see he was prepared for that
Starting point is 00:49:52 Which I mean I would expect them to be Because it's Toronto It's Drake's hometown And it's nothing worse than having beef with a person of that caliber because the person that you know that that could be throwing this drink they don't even know drink right now yeah but that guy I don't know what that kid thought that cake was that he got fucked oh yeah and there's no court in the world that will actually take his case if he said push your tea and um you don know beat me up. There's every court in the world He ran on stage
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah, yeah, they took the yondi to the yondi Or anybody wants a lot They took the yondi to the yondi. They took it right to the yondi, B. Word. Anybody want some wine? Yes, sir. I don't even know. I ain't gonna lie. This is gonna make me shit. I know. But I'm already missing. You're already?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Come on, Paul. Paul, you're gonna talk crazy. You're a gentleman's jack, man. You're gonna see the gentleman's jack do it. Look at this big-ass bottle you brought. So bottom line. Hold on. So bottom line is we want Drake and Pusha to squash the beat.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I said Drake, too. But until it gets squashed, I'm entertained. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. Excuse yourself on one part of that. Okay. You're not entertained by people getting their ass whooped. The people get hurt.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I'm sorry, Ethan. I am entertained. Listen, I don't condone it. I don't cosign people getting their ass whipped. I don't cosign people throwing drinks. But if it happened to happen, I'm going to happen to watch. I'm going to tell you why I'm not entertained. I'm not entertained because we lost Biggie and Pac.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah. And eventually it leads to shit like that. No disrespect, but Drake and Pusher is nowhere on the level of Big or Pac. But remember, other people die before Biggie and Pac died too. No. Yes. Stretch. Stretch.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. Stretch. thing to perpetuate some reason why I wanted to protest rate is because I feel like both of them are are mature enough so that it go I hear you other than the 40 thing I think they're all like when you're in push-up mentioned 40 I think
Starting point is 00:52:17 this all got emotional from then on out but other than that I think they're both grown men look like a meat meal Mill and Drake. Look at Drake and Chris Brown. No, no, hip hop battles are healthy for hip hop. Battles. But when battles become something else. But when did it become something else so far? So far, I don't know. I just feel like it gets more,
Starting point is 00:52:38 social media has, like we've just talked about, social, it's a whole new dynamic to what battles are. And I'm just saying, conquering, divide and conquer and that's what's happening to us at this moment. Yeah. Right. They ain't got no beef between each other. No, they don't. Not that big. No, they got beef. Who doesn't have some beef between each other?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Not that big. It's not the beef that we dig, but it's still beat. He's mad at pushing. They got differences. He's mad at pushing. They got logic. This is funny. All right. What's up, bro?
Starting point is 00:53:15 We got something in the chest beat. So Tory Lanez. No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. You got some other shit? You should box it out. I feel like every rapper that I got beef should box it out. Three rounds, three rounds, three minutes. Three rounds, three rounds, three minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:31 One round. Guns down, hands up. Why you gotta say that? Yeah, hold up. Make some noise for Boulay Kev, everybody! Yay! Yo, Boulay Kev, man, happy Thanksgiving. You live in the drink chest.
Starting point is 00:53:44 We got one subject to ask you, and then we're going to ask you what you're thankful for. All right, the first subject is, what do you feel about Pushing T in Toronto? I feel like Pushing T, you know, you got to expect some sort of fight back when you come to Toronto. But, you know, I feel like Pushing T washed Drake's whole ass in that battle, so you know, it's all good. Drake can have a little small victory and have some fans throw some beer on stage. Nah, nah, nah, nah, not at all. Not, not at all. Okay. Like, you know, in this whole town, somebody got to try to jump out the window for them. OK, definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Well, it's Thanksgiving, bootleg camp, and we're all going around asking people what are they thankful for. So it ought to be right that we ask you, because we're trying to get you down with the Drink Chance family. That's a conversation off the air, but we want to ask you to know, what are you thankful for?
Starting point is 00:54:39 What are you thankful for? You know, I'm about to get married in two weeks, man, so I'm thankful for my fiance. Oh. That's the turkey. And separately, I'm also thankful for my browser's password, which is going to keep me thankful to my fiance. You know what I'm saying? Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's dope. And when you say you're getting married, that? Malibu, baby. In Arizona. Arizona. Okay. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Shit, man. I might pull up. Let me know, man. Yes. Arizona. Arizona, okay, all right, cool. Shit, man, I might pull up. Let me know, man. Text me or something. I just met you, bro. All right, man, yo, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Happy Thanksgiving, man, for Drake Chaps, man. Happy Thanksgiving to you. Make some noise for Drake Chaps. Thank you. Okay, yeah, so the Pushing Tee Drake Drake, we hope it pulls over. This is very interesting. You want to lead into this? Because I cut you off earlier.
Starting point is 00:55:29 The next subject. Oh, the Tory Lanez and Joyner Lucas. I actually... I don't even know how this started. The only reason... I'm going to tell you how I started to acknowledge this beat. Because I heard that people said that Joyner Lucas mentioned RazzCast. RazzCast is my homie. Oh, he kind of body RazzCast. What? He said Jordan Lucas mentioned RazzCast. RazzCast is my homie.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Oh, he kind of body RazzCast. What? No! He said you rapping like RazzCast. How is he body? Even RazzCast is confused. That was a diss. RazzCast called me up. If I'm dissing you and I'm saying you rapping like EFN, I'm saying EFN is trash.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yeah, yeah. I'm just being honest. I'm not bigging you up. I'm not saying you rap like Big Daddy King. But I don't even get it. How does that even correlate to Tory Lanez's rhymes? Because he's saying you're trash. He said you sound like RazzCast. He sounds like RazzCast is like a lyrical, like he's like a legend.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yeah, but not to the young generation. No, it just has to do with the young generation. Even if he's a lyrical, you're right. He's a lyrical, whatever. But he's saying that lyrical shit is trash. Yeah, but I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. Yeah, but not to the young generation. No, it doesn't have to do with the young generation. Even if he's a lyrical, you're right. He's a lyrical, whatever. But he's saying that lyrical shit is trash. That's what Jordan is saying. You're a lyrical guy? This is what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:56:34 He's saying that. That doesn't make sense, bro. I'm just telling you. That doesn't make sense. Does it make sense to you? I agree with NL. Even Crooked Eye. Crooked Eye was like, it doesn't make sense. It makes sense that he's dissing him.
Starting point is 00:56:43 That's right. It doesn't make sense that he would diss him. Okay Okay, let me just explain something to y'all. Let me just explain something to y'all. Outside of people who love lyrics, there's people who don't love lyrics. Who thinks Raskass is trash? Well, I'm sorry, but I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. Raskass is my man. There's people who think I'm trash. What the fuck? There's people who think. But it's like, it was so, like, random. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:07 No, it's not that random. It's not that random. He's trying to make a statement that you sound like Razzcastle. Razzcastle is this type of guy, this type of career, this type of thing. Boy, okay. Isn't Tory Lanez known more for, like, singing? Yeah, but Tory Lanez ladies saying I'm hip-hop This is the reason why I was trying to say if you know for this right?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, he's not it's not like if you was a nerd rapper like I can understand So is it I can try to sell my brass cats cuz you a nerd rapper. He's not even rapping like that That's what Jonah Lucas said! Jonah? Jonah? Whatever that nigga's name is, I apologize. Jonah Hill? When I see him I apologize and tell him I slept on you way too long, sir. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:56 You killed that. That nigga said, Tori, Tori, I thought you were talking about me. I said, that nigga said, Tori?i Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori
Starting point is 00:58:14 Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Tori Let's do a track together. Oh, Lucas, right? Yeah, yeah. Now that I got that out of the way, let's do a track together. They actually got on FaceTime together. I mean, it's like, you know, might not be used to battles, but... That's what I meant. It's a grand line. But Tory came back again. Tory came in his second joint. Yeah. I don't know the first one or the third one. What was the first one? He did... How did this start? Do you know the history? again this territory came in a second joint yes he got online Toby lanes that is this is a lot of say give out rap anybody okay so he started calling out
Starting point is 00:58:55 other people people to Jonah I believe I'm saying his name right Joyner, Joyner, Joyner, Joyner. Not Joyner, hell no. People threw Joyner in there, and he said, whatever. Why you looking at me like that? He's about to kill me, though. He's about to pull out the AK. Jimmy Blue, relax. Relax, Jimmy Blue. You made me down my hair blue, son. So, Tory Lanez actually went in, and I could tell Tory is really nice.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Tory's really, really, really good. Tory's nice. He's really, really good. Right. But you could tell this shit comes first in nature to Joyner. Like he was just having fun, but then Tory comes back. Can you make it after the RazzCast line? After the RazzCast line.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Can we play this? We can. Of course we can. Let's get sued. I mean, let's get sued. Hold on. Anybody want to pull up? I'm in. We're not getting sued.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I'm in. All right. You want to pull up all three? It's kind of too long. No, OK, never mind. It's kind of too long. What about in the post-production? It'll be post-production.
Starting point is 01:00:01 We don't retain them. No, but I actually, this is one of the battles I actually appreciated because one, it was all positive. One, even the jokes they cracked on each other was not like too far. So you could tell that they could smack each other five and move on from this. And they're participating. Like, it's dope. Like, I like that, that, you know, because so many people many people like it's getting changed just like this suck your mother Whoa, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah one suck
Starting point is 01:00:33 Now I gotta shoot you now I gotta cut you but there's none of that It's just box there were bars and I like that. Yeah, I like that. I don't think we had The Tory Lanez Lucas first man, I suppose cool Beside her I like it It's not for me No, just the way you describe like, to them. Right. Like what they like, what they into.
Starting point is 01:01:08 You know what I'm saying? It's a whole new world that's like, of hip hop, that's got a separate culture. It's still hip hop, it's still what we rock to, but then it's a subculture to it that's they shit. And you know, it's amazing how you broke it down. When you say they, that's what you mean. It's not like, like them. Like you point they that's what you mean. It's not like
Starting point is 01:01:28 Like 10 like you point the finger at them. It's the same It's giving respect to the the week they view it right but you saying the way they view it or the way they doing it No, it's the same thing it's the way you do it is an extension of how you view it like with technology social media No, they're wrong Like with technology, social media, everything is right now. If they rhyming, how far is that from hip hop? No, they're rhyming. No, it's still hip hop. They spitting. How far is that extension? Let me explain to you what he means more.
Starting point is 01:01:59 What he means is, little Yachty, little Uzi Vert, Young Thug, they're hip hop. It's just hip hop that we can't relate to. It's hip hop that we can't identify with. I'm not explaining this to you. I'm explaining this to fans. But it's hip hop that we can't identify to because It's hip-hop that we can't identify with. I understand. I'm not explaining this to you. I'm explaining this to fans. But it's hip-hop that we can't identify to because of what we were raised in. Now, if we were raised
Starting point is 01:02:11 in this era of hip-hop, guess what? To tell you the truth, we'll be saying we're the old version of hip-hop. Right. And I see when they say that sometimes, like sometimes,
Starting point is 01:02:21 I kid you not, I said this before on a podcast, I walk by my son's room and I see him. And I just be wanting to hear what the fuck this motherfucker's playing. And he's always playing
Starting point is 01:02:31 this shit that everyone else is saying, that's trash. But that's his version of hip hop. You know what I'm saying? It resonates with him.
Starting point is 01:02:40 My youngest son, Noah, he loves fucking New Edition. And the shit is hilarious. I'm like, this is so dope. Yeah. You know why he likes it?
Starting point is 01:02:54 He likes it from watching BET movie. It wasn't even like I was a great father. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. Going from a point where you lived it as opposed to you watching it, you viewing it, and then you interpreting it, how you see it. It's going to come out different, because it's a different generation of it.
Starting point is 01:03:11 So you got to respect it. This is. We know when I'm taking my son to school. Speak to the mic, Glenn. Oh, yeah. You know, when I'm taking my son, when he get in the car, first of all, this generation, they stay stable.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I guess we did it back then, too. But you know. I never was a headphone guy because it back then, too, but, you know. I never was a headphone guy because I sold drugs. So now I wear headphones all the time. You keep the cell phone on. He's always got the music, you know what I mean? So when he get in the car, you know what I mean, I let him put his joint in the oct. And like you said, you know what I mean, but I can't hate on it because I remember when I was growing up in the 70s in Queens, you know what I mean? When hip-hop first started, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:46 I remember they were saying it was only going to last like two years. You know what I mean? And I used to have to look back. And look at it now. So I have no choice but to appreciate it, you know what I mean? You know what the crazy shit is? My mother, this is the reason why I don't judge my kids. My mother was a hardcore Christian woman.
Starting point is 01:04:03 She believes Christ Everything right But she never pushed Christianity on us She always made it for us To make our own choice So how fucking bad would I be Let my son listen to Uzi work And not come in here with the great adventures of Slick Rick Like nigga we starting from here
Starting point is 01:04:20 We starting from here Like I can't do that So the thing is don't get me wrong, I want them to know about Slick Rick. I want them to know about BDP. But I want them to do,
Starting point is 01:04:30 like, I tell you this shit and I'd probably be scoring for this. I'd probably be like, hip-hop connoisseurs would probably take my balls and put a... But I always tell
Starting point is 01:04:41 the young generation, the young, young generation, if you want to study hip-hop, what I would do is I would take it from Illmatic, even though I know that's the middle version of it. I'll take it from Illmatic and then I'll go all the way back. You think that's where they understand it from? Here's the reason why. Because Illmatic was the first album that was righteous, that was kind of conscious, but it was also fucking bitches. It was also drinking champagne. It was also smoking blunts.
Starting point is 01:05:11 It was also relating that the cops is killing us. But it was all in one. It was an ill cinematic. I kid you not, I listened to Illmatic in jail. I had never seen a video of Illmatic. I saw every video in jail. Meaning in my mind through here. So if I was to... and it's not to say
Starting point is 01:05:27 because it's Queens and it's because Nas is my brother and we do business with him. No, it's not. I met Nas twice, maybe once or twice prior to that. I was in jail. Listen, let me reiterate what I said, fellas. I was in jail when I heard Illmatic
Starting point is 01:05:44 and the thing about it was Biggie was out, Buckshot Shorty, and we needed a... Yeah, so part of it is from me living from Queens. But when you heard that album, the album was the perfect hip-hop album. So what I'm trying to say is, the reason why I say it start from there, because the greats, he took everything from every great and put it into that one album. So if you go back, you will see how that album actually makes sense. But you'll be negating straight out of the company. You'll definitely be negating, but we've got to realize,
Starting point is 01:06:14 you get all of that when you go backwards. When you go backwards, you get all that. You get all that when you go backwards. Go Illmatic you go backwards you get all that you get all that when you go backwards Go backwards not not not not ill-mannered can go You go all the way back to cool her to go All of that is what makes Ill Matt. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the perfect album. He's got skits from Walsall. And Remy. That's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 01:06:48 That's what I'm trying to say. And I'm sorry, hip-hop historians, because some people will be like, you know, people, you know, who, who, who. No, no. Why don't you listen to the Cold Crush Brothers first and all that? Which is, I can't debate that. I can't. No, no, no. I think what you're saying is right, because to relate, you've got to go where you can
Starting point is 01:07:02 relate. You've got to have a starting point. Right. Where you can relate to a story. It might be for someone else. It might be after that. It's a different branch. And then you go back because everything that you're into, they were inspired by somebody else. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:16 So you've got to follow that inspiration. And Nas is the ultimate student. Let me tell you why. When Nas came, when we met Nas in L met Nas in LA when he came he was like EFN now everyone in the world calls you effin He's yeah fuck everybody in the world And let me know Nas studies You understand?
Starting point is 01:07:42 Why do we feel the same way right now? No because listen listen listen You don't feel the same way right now. No, because... Listen, listen, listen. You don't feel the same way about Jay? Chill. Relax. Relax. It's a dream champ story.
Starting point is 01:07:51 This is my stream. So we go to Sweet Chick. This is the grand opening of Sweet Chick, right? It was pretty dope. It was pretty epic. Grand opening of Sweet Chick. I'm with, like... I think I'm with Tret and fucking Sticky Fingers.
Starting point is 01:08:01 That's epic by itself. And these guys was... And I'm the drunk guy. Yeah. And these guys. And these guys was, and I'm the drunk guy. Yeah. And these guys, the drunkest as ever. I'm like, damn. We just,
Starting point is 01:08:09 we just drink chance with Onyx that day. We just drink chance with Onyx that day and then we get with Tretch and they, we just, everybody's drunk and I'm like, damn,
Starting point is 01:08:16 I'm going to walk through to see Nas with, oh, and me too. I'm drunk as fuck. He drunk. But the thing is,
Starting point is 01:08:23 I see, we see Nas, we walk in, Nas over there. I go drunk as fuck. He drunk. But the thing is, I see, we see Nas, we walk in, Nas over there. I go say what's up to him and then he comes up to EFN. He goes, yo, EFN.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And I said, what a minute. Oh shit. He's rocking. Oh shit. Say the whole story. Like most people say, EFN.
Starting point is 01:08:39 That's a win. Most people keep it real. And that didn't mean no disrespect. No, my whole career. My whole career. And so, I paid attention to him paying attention. And I paid attention to him paying attention and I paid attention And I don't know if he said your name, but he said what's up my dude, I know who you are and I said this what's up, my dude? I know who you are. And I said, this guy's good. He recognized the engineer. He told me the favorite stories of dream champs.
Starting point is 01:09:11 He's like, yo, but this, and when this happened, and that, all that. Oh, shit. This is what I'm trying to say. So mind you, I know that story has nothing to do with what we were saying. But I'm going to tell you why it has something to do with it. When you pay attention to details, when you're that close, and that's the reason why Illmatic was ill. To me,
Starting point is 01:09:30 when I heard Illmatic, I was in Queensbridge. I'm from Left Rock City. That was a place that I visited frequently prior to me being in jail. When I heard that shit, I smelled the dumpster. I smelled 12th Street. I smelled the hill. I smelled that shit, I smelled the dumpster. I smelled 12th Street. I smelled the hill.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I smelled Jamaica Avenue. I smelled it. I don't know if you... I mean, being in captivity is probably the worst thing that you could ever... But it expands your mind and the place. Because if you're physically locked up, the only thing you can have to be free is your mind. So what I'm trying to say, when you're reading books like Donald Goins, you become,
Starting point is 01:10:06 in Detroit, selling heroin with Donald Goins or you become in Chicago or wherever it is. But Nas brung me back to, I kid you not,
Starting point is 01:10:15 you ever seen a video where like, you know, you look and this shit just disappears? That's how I was in the cell. Like I was like that and this shit just disappeared
Starting point is 01:10:23 and I was back in the projects., getting shot at or shooting at people. Listening to Illmatic, I kid you not. And this is not because he's my brother now. Let me tell you, I don't know if this is a DJ thing when it came to Illmatic, but when we heard rumblings of Illmatic, and maybe you can relate to this as well, just hearing the producers that he was starting to fuck with like premier and Pete Rock You want me to tell you a secret? That you might want to take my hip-hop card?
Starting point is 01:10:52 I didn't know who those producers was when I seen it at the source No, no, no, you know what? I'm not gonna take it The way that you're talking about the album for you from your perspective makes sense But I'm telling you the way from my perspective. You already knew. No, I'm saying I'm in Miami. Right. And I'm just hearing these producers that I admire working on this one guy's album.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I'm like, holy shit. This must be the holy grail of hip hop going on right now. And I'm hearing these guys not being easy about it. Like, this album's not coming out unless we're're gonna do these perfect tracks on q-tip Yeah, oh, I mean come on man when you hear all these people Understand this is actually the equivalent of the chronic from New York at that moment. You know saying You know why I like Illmatic better than the chronic is because it came from one person's perspective The chronic was a cruise perspective. The Chronic was a crew's perspective.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It was Long Beach and Pumpkin. I think it's different. I don't think you could put it in the same category. And Snoop was actually writing the rhymes. So you automatically distance yourself from that project as a real MC. As a real MC, once you know somebody else is participating in the pinning of anything,
Starting point is 01:12:02 that's like Puff Daddy. Puff Daddy can make the greatest shit ever, but how can I ignore I don't matter if the right rhymes I write checks like you know, how can I you ignore easy saying ice ice cube rights or rhymes that I say? No, not easy. You can still be a great. You just can't be top five Pop daddy you still agree. You just can't be top five Kanye West is still a great. This can't be top five We're only got six rappers. Illmatic had one. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice
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Starting point is 01:16:38 on Apple Podcasts. ... arguably. Was he just writing Dre's rhymes, or was he writing everybody's from what I heard Dre's Rob's who you told my home super new to client. Well, well, he's just writing Dre's Rob's. Listen, there's this sessions was helping this sessions where like but what Dre doesn't deny that and Drake gives the credits so on the song so what I'm saying is I don't mind if you claim if you say that yo look the fuck I don't got time to be writing fucking rhymes
Starting point is 01:17:22 fucking Garcia's driving my shit it doesn't admit that I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you know I'm saying Yeah, that's a little different you can't say you can't say I Well, I just feel like I feel like he doesn't't take it away from Drake being great at all. You know what I'm saying? Does that add to Snoop's greatness? It definitely adds to Snoop's greatness. It definitely does. But getting back to the actual point was the reason why I said Illmatic was better than Chronic for me.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Now, this is not me being a Queen guy or me being even a New York guy. This is me being the MC. As an MC, I like to know you wrote your own rhymes. I like to know, because I did not like to know that. Because did I want to ask you, you did that? Because I did that. I asked you that, are you sure? Then you were laying on some real shit.
Starting point is 01:18:23 If I know you ain't did that and I say, you know, and you say, oh, I don't show I didn't they were late on some real shit without if I know you ain't did that and I say, you know We said you say oh, you know Shit I'm turned off. Yeah, I'm like what the fuck need to just say there's a point you sold drugs by the scintillator Right, you know say like anything. I got a cigarette around from like what the fuck? Already little me so up but Who's the original content of this Tori Lays and uh, yes Point to make real quick about the teenage music versus our era. You know my dream Well concerning what we were talking about with the teenagers and what they listen to now the younger generation, right? I feel like sometimes as a parent and remember myself as a teenager, it's only natural to rebel against what your parents listen to. So even with the tight jeans, the skinny jeans, we was dressed in baggy as fuck.
Starting point is 01:19:12 So it was like they want to be different from us on purpose. It's almost like anything your parents did when you was 15 was whack. So remember when your parents was first discovering hip hop, you were were like this shit's a fad, it's wack, you look stupid, blah blah blah. You wanna do it more, just to prove them wrong. And I think you don't wanna become your parents. So you could either evolve with the culture or you could just die with it.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Right, but the Illmatic album is one of the better ones. I agree with you on the Illmatic album against the Chronic album because the Illmatic album, we were able to relate to the streets and the stories. If Chronic album because the Illmatic album we were able to relate to the streets and the stories. If Chronic album came after Illmatic, it might have been a different message. But Dr. Drake took it from there and implemented a whole different West Coast sound. I agree. But I agree with what you're saying about Illmatic being better than Chronic for certain reasons.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Well, Chronic is a compilation. Let's just be clear. Chronic is a compilation. It's great. It had a feature on every song. Can you put up the track list? With Rage, with D.O.C. No, it's great to have a feature on every song. No, I said the Chronic is like a compilation. It's the greatest compilation of hip-hop. Yeah, it's the greatest. There you go. I can agree with that. It's the greatest compilation, but nonetheless, it's still a compilation.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Well, what I was trying to tell you is, do you think Jay's album with the way you describe Nas' album with a little piece of everything, like if you wanted to start from there, do you think Jay's would be similar? No. Jay would be no similar no easy because you know why they took my dad presidents tomorrow reasonable down the line reasonable the reason why I reasonable doubt was a as classic as ill Madigan's because he still had that that that that that fast rapid in him and this certain parts of them where I think that's not why I'm talking yeah I'm why Sophie Davis like reasonable doubt there was a me is I had to go back was the next album after reasonable doubt that's when that's when he got it all out so you try to say that no Maddie DJ
Starting point is 01:21:24 from way better than reasonable doubt yeah he was super polished it was That's when he got it all out of him. So you're trying to say that Illmatic... With DJ Prometheus. It's way better than Reasonable Doubt. No, no, Jay. He was super polished. It was everything we wanted and it's timeless. It's basically what it is. Illmatic? No, that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:21:34 That's what it is. So it's still Maddox. It was a timeless project. I don't think it was super polished. Does it have something to do with your experience? No, I think it's super polished. Your experiences, right? You say Illmatic for you is the greatest album ever.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah, one of them. One of them, right? But the way you feel about it has a lot to do with your experience and what you've the greatest album ever. Yeah one of them. One of them right but the way you feel about it has a lot to do with your experience and what you said when you first heard it. Right it taking you back like you made an emotional connection to the song and that's why it's like that for you but for other folks you know coming from their perspective like for me if you take Kane, Chris, Rakim, Slick Rick, You get Illmatic.
Starting point is 01:22:09 You get Illmatic. You get Illmatic. You get Illmatic. You get Illmatic. You get Illmatic. You get Illmatic. No, I'm going to be honest. That's the reason why Illmatic is good.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Every MC, every MC since. Yep. In that album. In that album. No, no. With those five MCs, who'd you rap? album? In that album. No, no. With those five MCs, Kuji Rap. That's what makes Nas. No, no.
Starting point is 01:22:29 I get it. Rakim, KRS-One, those five. It's from that era. Yeah, right? No, no, no. From that era. Wait, what's the five? What's the five?
Starting point is 01:22:38 I'm sorry. You get Kane. Kane. KRS-One. KRS-One. Kuji Rap. Kuji Rap. Rakim.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Rakim. I'm going to throw in LL, Slick Rick. I'm gonna have to say six because we missed a couple. Slick Rick, Slick Rick, Slick Rick. Slick Rick, right, Slick Rick. You get every MC. That's nice. You put them together, that's nice. That's nice. And every MC after. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Up until now. Wow. Every MC is a version of one of those. Yeah. Or a combination of them. Even me! So for me, I was going to college, 87. I was living in Studio 54 with Kid Capri.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Every week. Funhouse when I was 14. Was there cocaine there in Studio 54? Oh yeah! Cocaine! I used to go and stand in the sound of my cousin calling me, I came here, kid. How's that sound? Real quick, though. You don't think you're saying everybody to now.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Everybody to now. You don't think that we could say Q and Icee and these guys from the west. Wait, what? Icee, Q, Chuck D. No, I'm saying because he's saying everybody till now. But I think Q, IceT, Eazy-E, Drake 2000 does not have any New York influence in his style. He ain't got no Slick Rick in him. Yeah, he got Slick Rick in him.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Andre? Yeah, he got Slick Rick in him. And Rock Kim. And Rock Kim. He got Slick Rick in him. You're saying he's saying? Yeah, definitely. Pusha T is Rock Kim.
Starting point is 01:24:03 So it's influenced every state. What I'm trying to say is that in that same timeline that you're speaking though, there is the Ice-T, there is the Ice Cube, and I feel that these guys also influenced. Ice-T will tell you he's Schoolie D. No, Schoolie D, but you didn't start from Schoolie D. He'll tell you that. No, but that's what I was saying. When I was in Ice-T, he started from Schoolie D. He said that on the drink channel. No, you're absolutely correct. He said that on the drink channel. You didn't start from there. No, but that's what I was saying. I was saying that. You didn't start from there.
Starting point is 01:24:25 He said that on the drink chat. No, you're absolutely correct. He said that on the drink chat. You didn't start from there. You didn't start from there. That's right. That's true. So I just want to be like, if you want to say, like, no, that resonates.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Me personally? Me personally. Look, look, look, look, look, hold up. I got a lot of backlash on this show. Right? Because people thinking that I'm anti-New York. I'm not anti-New York at all. I see when I represent my air because I'm from Miami, right? You know Jersey
Starting point is 01:24:52 and Jersey Issues having to fight their way through Exactly. So I'm trying to say is that we all gotta understand like we are made up by all kinds of MCS All kinds of MCs, all kinds of, the culture is everywhere. So we gotta make sure we acknowledge where the culture comes from. For the experience part of it, for me, at that time in my life, for what I was going through and how I was experiencing hip-hop, that's why those MCs are important to me. And that's the point I was trying to make.
Starting point is 01:25:21 For me, and for him, it's nomadic because of the experience he's had. It's totally objective. For other folks, it's subjective. Exactly. That was the point. Yeah, yeah. Well, to me, the reason why it's nomadic, I want to reiterate that it wasn't because I was from Queens.
Starting point is 01:25:35 It wasn't because of the person that I met through Akineli Farga. It was because of the visual. Like, the reason why Donald Gomes was my favorite author was because I was never reading a book. I was actually looking at a visual When I was reading And the thing about it is The thing about if you take a kid from the street
Starting point is 01:25:52 And you bring him in jail You gotta give him You gotta show him pussy You gotta show him guns Because that's the only thing he can relate to The thing is if you come to me and you give me a Martha Stewart book I'm gonna jerk off on the shit. I would have been like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:26:08 On the cover? Whatever, I don't know, whatever. On the Home Depot part, nigga. But you come and bring me a book called Horror Son, and I'm like, Horror Son? You come and bring me a book, you know, The Pale Horse and shit like that, where I can learn something, and I can be be sitting there and I can debate with other people,
Starting point is 01:26:26 then I'm going to be intrigued. Then I'm going to be intrigued. I got to give gifts. Sorry, my bad. It's about reaching people, Lee. You know, this is the reason why Clarence13x Hold on, this is the reason why they say Clarence13x has always been more effective at recruiting
Starting point is 01:26:42 than Malcolm X. Because Clarence 13 X went to the projects once Malcolm became to a certain degree they kept him away shout out to the homie that made this book I came here to do it for you Rap Dad, homie made a book about being a dad in the rap world but um get back to my point, my bad, was, you know, sometimes you got to relate to the person for you to move forward.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Like, if you're a preacher at the church, right, and you say, we must repent our sins and all this shit, and then I see you not never having a middle, right? You never had a cause. Yeah, you can't. There's no relationship. How the fuck can I relate to you? But I can relate to the dude who says, go home at night.
Starting point is 01:27:27 And I'm like, what? For what? Nigga, you out here selling drugs. Nigga, I'm going to whip your ass if you don't. You do what I do. I relate to that dude. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:36 Because at least he's being straight up. So I don't know. That's what I do. You know what I feel like? Being from Queens, Illmatic, like you grew 20 people that were exactly how you grew. If Illmatic was made from Chaos One, I would have felt the same way. OK.
Starting point is 01:27:50 But it definitely, it definitely, when I say. You know what I'm saying, like it's like the soundtrack to your life, you're from Queens. Yeah, but that's not, that's not the point. Like I saw Queens, and I had never been there at the time. That's the point. That's the point. That is the point.
Starting point is 01:28:01 I think what he's trying to say, what I think. Horace Hunter is my favorite book. I've never been to Detroit at the time. I love Trick Daddy. When Trick Daddy first dropped, I was like, oh fuck. I don't fit in Trick Daddy. That's Miami. That's Miami.
Starting point is 01:28:11 It's Miami. It's so hard. Run DMC. First off, Run DMC, Akanele. First off, Run DMC, Akanele, Soul Sisters, all related to places that I'm from. Who are them? I'm not from Queensbridge.
Starting point is 01:28:24 In fact, I hate being even related to Queensbridge, period. So for me to love this album, it means a lot. I'm not from North Miami, but when Trick Daddy dropped, I'm from Miami. I'm really from North Miami. He's also from Ridgemont High School. So what I'm trying to say, real quick, though, I think it's all making sense to all of us.
Starting point is 01:28:44 I think that Naso Matic is equivalent to the same way that we felt about straight out of Compton It taught us what Compton was but really Compton was the greater world. You don't think Compton was a gem That's what you thought. Yeah Compton was a gem when they said straight out of Compton I was like these niggas is wow I was like these niggas I don't want to get arrested in Compton and I was like what? Cujurap was scary just like no listen listen listen listen to me listen to me my dude I bet you if you asked everyone on this table what was their most influential,
Starting point is 01:29:26 you'd probably be shocked what you did. Coogee Rap was scary. Let me tell you something, when Coogee Rap said, C-74, out of less than that wall, put your in on the wall, you hear a nigga getting tall, I was like, Coogee Rap was over.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I had a sign, I saw it. I'm asking, what did that mean? Mind you, I'm selling crack. Maybe I'm not, I'm not even sure. I'm not what is that? Mind you, I'm selling crack. Maybe I'm not. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. What year was that? That was 89. Oh yeah, I was born in 77 so I'm probably way behind the years. I'm probably, everybody else, I'm born in 77.
Starting point is 01:29:58 So I'm hearing this like, what is that? Like right as Alan. I was like, I is that? Like, right as Alan. I was like, right as Alan. I was like, I never want to go there. That's it. I never want to go there. For me, it's a little different, because I was born in Queens, too. Where at?
Starting point is 01:30:15 I was born in East Ellimers. East Ellimers. Damn, you're from 10 minutes away or 15 minutes away? Yeah. OK. You know what I mean? So my mom's a discordance from what I'm going to say. So when I was young
Starting point is 01:30:29 I'll spend my life back and forth between Miami, New York So I grew up with the best of my when I was in Miami, it's a cold in New York, New York They call me Miami So I had the best day like I said, I know we have been from the early 90s I wouldn't when hip-hop really was just starting to be you know what I mean? Like, we started to try to get a name down here. Yeah, I remember, too. You dreaded to shoot it. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:51 You were a strong, strong shout-out. You was fucking bouncing, all right. I really was. But I say that to say that, you know, I was one of the fortunate ones, you know what I mean? Because, you know, I also used to rhyme with JT Money. You know what I mean? Poison Clan, shout-out to Poison Clan. Shout-out to J, man with JT money poison Day and I mean at the end of the day it was a good to be I got to see different
Starting point is 01:31:12 Genres and be able to see the south the north or ain't nothing to care think about Miami and then you can tell me about New York for me so I guess you first story So you the first Nori. I'm a new version of you. You the first. He's from Queens and now he moved out here. I'm the only Nori. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, yeah, yeah. I'm the second one. I'm the second one. So Art Baszler's coming up.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Art Baszler's this big thing now. Miami, everyone is. Nas is coming out here. We're going to try to kidnap him. So anybody. I'm on the car. I'm on the car. He's going to be at Club Mokai.
Starting point is 01:31:41 So anybody who's Drink Champs fans, you you wanna see Nas on here, hit him up. Yo, we doing, we doing Love & How. Destroy this college. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Love & How 3rd. On what date? Come on y'all, back there. That's December 7th and 8th. We got the film festival on the 7th. The free MC extraordinaire event is going down on the 8th. free MC extraordinary down on the 8th as a
Starting point is 01:32:06 family right that's what's up check my flyer at hockey green AJK I'm here all the information is right there I don't know I speak to crash it with Tony touch on December 1st Miami out here that's the fly listen we're gonna make some make some things for 2019. I'm going to make a suggestion for you, you make a suggestion for me, and then vice versa. I don't know what this means. Go for it.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Let's go to make a suggestion of us being better in 2019. 2019, what I would like to see more of you is I want to see DJ EFN back on the wheels of steel. Oh, I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Hold on, let me finish my shit. I'm doing it. Get this joke done because everybody can agree with me. I want to see DJ EFN back on the world still.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I want to see you traveling. I want to see you become more. I want to see you enjoy this life that we're living more. Yes. That was bold. No rebuttal. No rebuttal. You can say how you want to see me.
Starting point is 01:33:23 I think he's too Miami. Yeah, he's too Miami. Too Miami. You can say something. What does that mean? You got to leave Kendall. You got to leave Kendall. You got to leave Kendall. You got to leave Kendall.
Starting point is 01:33:32 You got to leave. Not leave it, but you got to leave. There's a line up around here. I leave Kendall. I do my coming home service. There you go. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:33:42 You're going to the worst places in the world. I'm glad I didn't meet the most green man. Yeah, yeah. How about going to Club Liv one night? Go to South Fiona. Hold on, I'm gonna tell you. Go to Oasi. I want you to come coming home. Mongolia with us.
Starting point is 01:34:00 There's no W. You just gotta go thug it out with us. I'm in. Mongolian? Do they have Mongolian chicken like P.F. Chang's? They have that but there's no W in there. I'm in.
Starting point is 01:34:13 I'm in. I would rather go to France but if I have to I'll go to Mongolia with you. How about this? I'll go to France with you. No, France coming home. Oh no, we're gonna do that too. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Okay, we do Mongolia and France? Yeah. Mongolia is your next? No, I just come home. Oh, we're going to do that too. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay, we do Mongolia and France? Yeah. Mongolia is your next? No, I just do France. All right. Because I don't think you're going to come to Mongolia. I don't think so either. I'm going to keep it 100%.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I know you, bro. I really know you. So is there anything else you want to improve in 2019? Anybody? I'm going to hire an EFN to do my birthday party. Uh-oh. $40 a month? $40? in 2019 anybody I think me myself I gotta work on adjusting more to people's ways you know I'm saying in the music and I think it, myself, I gotta work on adjusting more to people's ways. You know what I'm saying? In the music, and I think it will further my career, and I just figured it out. So, what does that mean? What I'm saying is, what I mean is, like, certain artists like certain things, certain ways.
Starting point is 01:35:17 I was kind of closed-minded to it, to the game, to the people's attitudes, to being around certain stuff. So, I'm learning to adapt on where to be seen and how to be seen where to move where not to move because I think that you know it's all strategy it's like be at the right place at the right time more than all that you know and accept it for you know the people that you know do things that you can't relate to so I could be a better man and be more successful and take care of the family what you think you can improve on Sonny I gotta improve on everything man I'm trying to improve everything go older or
Starting point is 01:35:48 younger I don't think I have him go to places he goes. He goes to the holdout. I want to improve on everything. I want to improve every day on everything. You know one day I was hanging out with him. He had a chick come through. She had a whole black eye. And then everybody just act like she didn't have a black eye. through feel this whole black I gotta improve on that. I gotta improve on that. You gotta stop.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Real quick, real quick. No disrespect to Sonny, but Sonny is so foul. He will go to a civil war reenactment to try to get a female. This is what Sonny will do. A civil war reenactment. I never heard of this. I wasn't aware. I wasn't ready either, but we'll take it all.
Starting point is 01:37:05 But I got to improve in every aspect in life. I mean, if you're not trying to improve and try to be better, then you're not really living. You know, it's trying to be better every day in every aspect of my life. Same thing. I ain't going to lie. He said it. Ain't nobody perfect. So everybody got something to improve in. And, you know, just in everything. You know a lot he said it like anybody perfectly Everybody got something to improve it and you know just everything you know I got service
Starting point is 01:37:29 This is a long ass list, but hmm like you should just improve to be the best you ever did mm-hmm I use a swiper to this makes a noise I got to come on the podcast and defend myself against Fat Joe because Fat Joe got on the podcast and he said that Sean Peck has never paid. No, no, no. Listen, the Peck defense, he started that. He started that. Well, Mike Kaiser started swiping but my guys original swiper Pat's been a great guy you know so right but I can't be honest
Starting point is 01:38:11 you have taken over is Mike Kaiser it was I'm gonna be honest who it was it was Mike Kaiser it was Sean Pecos it was Rob love on the low. A lot of people forget about it. Rob Love on the low. A lot of people, man. Everybody had fun, man. Sam Cresco had a run. Everybody. Sam Cresco had a run. He still had to get it.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I'm talking about swiping. I don't think he swiped that much. I don't think it's not even about swiping, man. It's just about having a good time. Goddamn it. Make some noise for that. Goddamn it. It's about who shows each other the better time. Creating a memory it, you know, it's about who shows each other the better time, you know, and it's creating a memory and, you know, having, building relationships.
Starting point is 01:38:51 Living the moment. That's the key word. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody probably did something, but it was for the sake of the label, it was for the sake of the artists, it was for the sake of what was going on at that time, so we could go back and be like, this is my car the soft pack I know they did it up like I said whether it was a program director or artist or person in the market to where now they can be able to walk into any club because they already know that yo those are good guys or you know they come here to have a good time and you know show everybody around them a good time right that's what you know that's what it's about not about you know it's
Starting point is 01:39:22 about having fun too but you know it's work at the same time. There's always a motive behind it. Like, you know, you go have a good time, but it has to be a outcome. Somebody got to pay for the trip. Somebody got to pay. So it's not like, can we find a motive tonight? To spread memories and everybody having a good time.
Starting point is 01:39:37 What motive tonight? Let's get a, where we going? Hold on, let me get G, let's get G. G-G? To the mic, G. 2018 for me was a phenomenal year speech to the mic 2018 for me was a phenomenal year Shoot on like this. I'm Cuban
Starting point is 01:39:55 2018 for me was a phenomenal year I'm really grateful all the artists including yourself who I got to work with and collaborate with on different visions. I think where I can improve now 2019 is Actually just making more time for my real friends because the industry really had a hold on me in 2018 good and just working And now that I've got my name established and the work is coming steady I can actually kind of breathe and what I'm in town actually make time for my people. That's it! That's it! That's it! That's it! That's it! That's it! That's it! In all disrespect, it was just hard fucking work
Starting point is 01:40:28 getting where I had to get. Now that I'm here, just maintaining is not the easy part. Getting on is easy. Staying on is awesome. Yeah, staying on is hard, but at the same time, you can't forget where you came from. Right, that's why we need that Drink Champs documentary done.
Starting point is 01:40:41 God damn it, let's go. God damn it, let's go. Come on. That's my perfect time. Oh, man, let me get a mic. Yeah, okay. That was closer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Yeah, man, 2019, man, Twins focusing on his health, you know what I'm saying? Getting back to the gym, catching up with Steroid Twins, but I'm not going to take steroids, you know what I'm saying? I might take a little piece. I mean, I can't lie. A little piece but I'm not gonna take steroids You don't say no Stacking up my paper getting my financial stability for my future. You know what I'm saying? I'm securing my future, you know, I on new projects, everything positive, positive vibes. Keep that negative shit away from me, we don't need that shit over here, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:31 Like, 2019 is another positive energy and leveling up, man, with the team, man. Always, it ain't gonna stop and it won't stop, you know what I'm saying? I will say it real, real, real, real, real. Real, real, real, real, real, real, real, real. Fuck, you got smoke on you. I need to work on my focus. And the focus right now is Dump Trump. Dump Trump.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Dump Trump. That's the focus right now. You see it right there? I got the shirts. You got the shirts? Thank you, sir. It's about touching down with community, touching down with family, right?
Starting point is 01:42:08 And building with folks so they understand what's going on with this dude, right? Central Park Five. You know, I was locked up with two of them. I was locked up with Yusuf Salaam and Kevin Richardson. Continue. Oh, yeah. I was locked up. I knew Yusuf Salaam did not do it. Yeah, like...
Starting point is 01:42:24 The guy was Muslim before he even came in the system. So he was... was locked up like you know I knew you just long did not do it yeah like the God was Muslim before he even came in the system so he was he was you know most people yeah see Islam as you know in crisis I'm sorry to cut you off but I still continue to show all but to your point right you said you do it yeah I know the point is well I know him that could have been any of us right yeah accused something that we didn't do. Donald Trump. He said, boy, news, yeah, on the front cover of papers, New York City papers.
Starting point is 01:42:51 $100,000 a piece. Like, that's kind of some sick shit. Like, cops wouldn't do it. $100,000? He paid $100,000 to get the front page ad. Yeah, he was promoting. It was like these kids. Or the Daily News. Okay or the the deal
Starting point is 01:43:06 for the execution Call them They've been no no no this is when it happens Upstate you know saying that explain this again. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry you went over my head. I'm a boy Alright, so Donald Trump, so when this is you talk about a sister park the shit have rock fire when it happened there, right when he was going to court Donald Trump took out ads in the New York City paper calling for the execution Called him animals called a wolf. It was crazy. Oh, I thought when John was Trump. That was the new thing Didn't say something about
Starting point is 01:43:43 Okay, so then he got convicted. I back then. Okay, so they got convicted. I don't know what their sentence was, but they did significant time. I think one did 13 years. Yeah, he influenced that. While he was in, the person who really did it admitted to it in jail.
Starting point is 01:43:56 They did the DNA with the brother who admitted to it, traced it back to the crime scene. None of their DNA was at the crime scene. So they were all released, exonerated. The state awarded them $46 million. Donald Trump was asked about it, and he said... I don't think they were released on their own with Congress. I think they all did their time.
Starting point is 01:44:16 No, no, no. They got released. DNA, the DNA technology caught up. They did the DNA test with the guy who admitted to it in jail. Yeah, I knew that part. And none of their DNA was on the scene. Right. So they were released.
Starting point is 01:44:32 So they were awarded $46 million. Donald Trump was asked about it. He said it was a mistake. They shouldn't have been let go. They shouldn't have gotten no money. He still said that shit? In 2014. Wow.
Starting point is 01:44:44 So right there, that puts him in perspective for me. Because that could have been any of us, black and brown people. Like, that could have been anybody in that park or lived around that park. I think two or three of the Central Park Five didn't even get arrested in the park. Cops went door to door a day or two later. So police could just run up in your house and say, yo, we want to bring you down to the station and question you. That's not right.
Starting point is 01:45:09 So that puts Donald Trump, for me, in perspective like what he would be capable of doing. So we got this movement, Dump Trump, DumpTrump.Global, check us out. It's all right there. I want to reiterate this on you quickly. Since he mentioned Central Park, a lot of people, especially from New York, don't know central park used to be on seneca village that was a whole seneca
Starting point is 01:45:30 village yeah that used to be a whole old moore's african so-called um village where they they it's actually a grave site where they they they killed everybody yeah so isn't grandstone or something like that too all of that great yeah you guys, I heard it was all it was all black If you look up the history of New York is something serious. Yeah, like people own a lot of land Yes, you're sitting all the Central Park is real So central park is act as an actual grave site You can look at her as we used to be called Seneca Village. They had to disguise it essential part To face and what's that? Come rest of it that green. What is it? It's a green green tavern on a's that cover us about that green what is it it's a
Starting point is 01:46:05 tiny on the green tavern on the green I heard something about that too last crazy I mean like even on ground zero where he built the towers that's a whole whole every way like to like I say before before a lot of these people came here we was already here before was New York used to be New Amsterdam New Gotham of New Bruton you may had different names prior to New York well yes Philadelphia I think was it Tuscarora we're in Florida this used to be out and illusion and I mean this is all before the United States got incorporated but the history is crazy you know I mean that's why I say once you go back to your roots and start from the roots
Starting point is 01:46:46 Yeah, I mean you can't go wrong Yeah, I mean, right when you say before you saying at the same time as his Native Americans or before it Well, like I said, did the people that you know is Native Americans, you know I mean with the dark-skinned people that was here, right, you know, I mean like when you say When somebody said you fucking cool now I get somebody who likes a white a white person you call them cool they don't know about the raccoon tribe of Florida who fought along the Seminole Indians these are dark-skinned people here who darkened and doesn't hit along with the We had a Diana's in the Caribbean. We had a dog team with Lox and Brandon.
Starting point is 01:47:26 No, no, relax. I'm trying to find out. I'm trying to do this. So I just say that, you know, it's funny that because a lot of these places that you see these things happening, it's happened before. But, you know, it's like ritual. Ritualistically, you know what I mean? We're playing stuff right now. So, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:47:45 I just want to get the Adrian Bruno clip. Good to hear I mean, I just want to get the Adrian Brona clip. Good to hear. Now, I just want to throw that in there. But, yeah, I do. Oh, yeah. I'm into that. Adrian Brona. I'm 40. Manito.
Starting point is 01:47:54 You got to break it up. Break it up. Hour by hour. So, Adrian Brona. You got the Adrian Brona clip? Yeah. Adrian Brona versus Manny Pacquiao. For some reason, I'm excited to watch this fight super excited. I
Starting point is 01:48:07 Don't think I'm not sure Yeah, it's not it's not a gimmick It's not the gimmick, I don't think. Pacquiao might kill him in the ring. Or might get killed. Everybody quiet. Y'all gave a young nigga a chance to make a hundred million. Y'all got me fucked up if y'all think I'm about to lose to Manny Pacquiao, man.
Starting point is 01:48:44 I'm about to beat his motherfucking ass on God now. And I don't know who in him is, man. I really ain't worried about too much, you know what I'm saying? This the first time I'm over here with all this drip. Get me, snap your bitches. And he dancing. You know what I'm saying? Definitely would like to rematch with Floyd.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Yeah, fuck Floyd, man. No disrespect, but he ain't fighting Floyd. Absolutely, let me ask you this. He fight me. But do you think... I'm about to beat your motherfucking ass. But you't fighting Floyd absolutely let me ask you this like me but do you think how to beat your motherfucking ass man you worry about Floyd he already beat you bro you gotta get past me first big feet motherfucker do you feel like they're underestimating you that's it play it play it play it on the actual podcast play the actual clip yeah not that shit an actual podcast. Play the actual clip. Yeah, not that shit, because you fucked up.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Play the real clip. You can hear it? No, you can hear it. No, it's on Instagram. Man, play the real clip. Play the real clip. Play the real clip, man. We got to step our game up.
Starting point is 01:49:35 I'm just kidding. It's Mark Hill who passed this time. No. No, no, no. Well, you know what? To tell you the truth, both of them are not in their prime. Neither one of them are in their prime. But he's younger.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Adrian's way younger. If Adrian connect, he might lay Pacquiao the fuck out. The problem is all the shit he's talking, he's worried about the $100 million. He's worried about the $50 million or the $20 million that he can make. He's worried about talking. And I think that Pacquiao has never been worried about the 50 million or the 20 million that he can make is he's worried about talking And I think that Bakay has never been worried about talking Pacquiao's been laughing through the Wayne. Yeah, he's laughing because My name is my name is drink chance sports Adrian Bronner is the truth The wilder fight on the summer and I love him, but Pacquiao is experienced. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be ugly.
Starting point is 01:50:45 I'm not going to lie. And that's another thing. The Wilder fight on December 6th is going to be the biggest. Yes, yes, yes. The Wilder fight against the guy from overseas, the Russian. Yeah, the big dude. The Wilder fight is a heavyweight fight. I think Pacquiao is getting the back. You're not listening to me.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Everybody's getting the back. And the heavyweight is going to be the street. Everybody's getting the back. Yeah, everybody's getting the back. Everybody's getting the back. But now that we're on sports, how about the Chiefs and the Rams? The Rams won, and I won $500 on that. I'm only saying it because we on the mic.
Starting point is 01:51:13 We can bring it up hour and hour. The Rams won the fight. The Rams won against the Chiefs 54-51. But Thanksgiving games is tomorrow. We drop in this episode tomorrow, right? Yeah. So it's Atlanta Falcons tomorrow. it's Cowboys and Redskins tomorrow and and it bears and Lions tomorrow I stopped doing picks two years ago because I lost money and Drake said I didn't give a fuck if I lost money
Starting point is 01:51:39 so I'm not putting bets no more but since you said it Bears gonna win Cowboys gonna win Saints gonna win it's nothing So I'm not putting best no more. But since you said it, Bears are going to win. Cowboys are going to win. Saints are going to win. It's nothing. I see Kis put out his plays every week. And I'm telling you, if you've been following Jadakiss Pick, Jadakiss Pick. Jadakiss is the nearest thing, but he's not a sports irises.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Is that a word? Listen, I don't know. I like what you went down with that. But you're not a sports irises. Is that a word? Listen, I don't know. But you're a sports irises. You got a lot of big games. I like what you said about that, bro. I ain't mad at that. All right, so this is the last subject for the night. We're going to wrap it up.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Sorry, my face is killing me. Stevie J and Faith. Biggie would be happy for Faith and Stevie J says to have her. I believe that. I believe it. That's a typical comedy, dog says that I believe that I believe it I believe that I believe it I swear to God I believe it
Starting point is 01:52:30 now do you want me to tell you why I believe that please should I should start first yeah me
Starting point is 01:52:38 one I believe if Biggie was alive I don't believe Biggie and Faith would be together okay damn I just feel like that I have no facts I believe if Biggie was alive, I don't believe Biggie and Faith would be together. Okay. Damn. I just feel like that. I have no facts or no, you know,
Starting point is 01:52:50 I have no inside information. I don't know what anybody is. I have no traits. But, and me off the gram, looking at Stevie J and looking at Faith, off the gram and off social media, at first, when I first seen I was like whatever you know maybe it's a fling me we had a spades game in Malibu in
Starting point is 01:53:10 Malibu in Malibu but he was there the seat come in and now mind you at time, there's a lot of females at this crib that I've rented in Malibu, and there's a lot of dudes. The boys. So you can hear somebody say babe all the time. There's always a babe. You're babe, babe, babe, babe. Oh, it's family. So I don't turn around when I hear babe, because there's probably 15 other babes here, right?
Starting point is 01:53:42 But when F said, babe! And Stevie just turned the fuck around and was like, shh. And was so attentive to her. I was like, yo, this is not Fugazi at all. This is real. Like, I'm talking about this fifth, five,
Starting point is 01:53:59 maybe I'm exaggerating. There's at least five or six other couples that's going around and everyone calls their significant other baby But for faith until my weird is music plan replay and spoke from spades this this wave fly about Music and she said baby that niggas stopped everything And I looked, I said, holy moly, guacamole. How do you know that, babe, was for you? That was that. That was real.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And I was like, you know what? I look past all the superficial shit that everyone else looks at. And I looked at love. I'm sorry to be like, that shit was real. That shit was real, yo. That shit was real. Me personally, like me personally, I would co-sign a relationship forever.
Starting point is 01:54:48 But let's get back to it. That's my personal opinion. You guys can have your own opinion. Stevie J said, Biggie would be happy. And I sincerely believe that. Again, going back to my situation, Big was already affiliated
Starting point is 01:55:01 to Charlie Baltimore, which we went up here. He was already related to Lil' Kim and some we went up here She was he's already ready to said little Kim and so these other females favors a strong woman She's a woman. I if you either fucking watch the New Jersey Brick City girl And she would have moved on seeing having that type of shit and I think they would eventually ended up if Biggie was alive damn and I think that they would have eventually ended up if Biggie was alive. Yep. Damn. Am I bugging?
Starting point is 01:55:28 That's a big statement at the end. Super big statement. I know what I'm, but, but, thank you. But I'm just telling you because Faith is, by the way, Faith is so ill that since Faith episode came out, there's been females that come up to me and be like yo thank you and I'm like
Starting point is 01:55:47 what the fuck like Faith is my best friend now and I'm like for real like you met Faith since the episode and they're like
Starting point is 01:55:53 no dude Dream Champ she's my faith and I'm like what like they got to see the real faith
Starting point is 01:56:01 so people compliment us all the time for that. That's dope. So I 100%, I feel like we 100% owe Faith. Not owe her as far as money or something like that. But we owe her because she was so real with us.
Starting point is 01:56:16 That was one of the best female guests ever. And for me to see her, knowing what she'd been through, not knowing her when she was going through big I did not know her But knowing what she went through Knowing you know All this crazy shit And to see her happy
Starting point is 01:56:31 As she is right now I think that's something That we've got to salute Not should Not should We got to salute We should We should. We should anyway. We should anyway.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Because you know why? So many people in this life, right? Like, I just heard the brother, we skipped over his shit when he was talking about his wife. And there's so many things because loving your wife is not fly. Like, being loyal is not fly. Like, having one girl is not fly like like being loyal is not fly like having one girl is not fly in our community no shit you and in our community yes thank you Paul that's the first that's a very big thing and this one I'm trying to say to you is every society and every real community they say the woman is the teacher of the first child.
Starting point is 01:57:26 That's it. Right? So if the woman is the teacher of the first child, how dare you have a child and not respect the woman? Got it, man. Because if that's the teacher. You changed the whole conversation. If that's the teacher, I'm sorry. But if that's the teacher, I wouldn't let my children continue to go to school
Starting point is 01:57:46 if the teacher's a Ku Klux Klan. If I know the teacher's name is David Duke, I got to get the fuck up out of there. Me and my son and my daughter and everyone else, we getting the fuck up out of there. So this is the thing in human nature sometimes
Starting point is 01:58:01 what fucks me up is how can we say the woman is the first teacher of the child and we respect that but then we don't respect the woman. Damn. Don't do that today, dog. Thanksgiving. No, Rick, please.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Thanksgiving. You're doing it. I went too far? You're doing it. That's all. God damn. It's right there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:23 It's good you say that because as a Mohawk and a Muslim, like I say, Eloise and Moj, That's all. That's all. Goddamn. It's right there. Okay. That's real. It's good you say that because as a Mohawk and a Muslim, like I say, we represent, you know what I mean, this fez right here represents the womb. The tip on the top represents the belly button and the tassel that you usually see represents the umbilical cord. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:58:41 You want extra. You all come out of the womb, you know what I mean? And your moms is is your mother. And the highest principle is love. So, you know, we honor the... It's basically what you just said, and we'll pick up the woman, which is called uplifting falling humanity. Humanity is the female that fell.
Starting point is 01:58:58 And you can judge any nation or community by the state of the woman. If the woman is fucked up, you fucked up. Because we all come out of one, and we spend the rest of our lives trying to get back up in it. Damn, though. On the other side, 360. That was ill.
Starting point is 01:59:16 That was ill, guys, real. I see all these guys have plenty of women all over the place. I don't even know how to do it. Nah, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't know how. I have an autistic son. For him to say, mom, why'd you do that to mommy?
Starting point is 01:59:31 Like, you know what I'm saying? You can still be a scumbag with an autistic son. I'm just throwing it out there. No, no, no. Let's just do it. Let's just do it. Nah, nah, nah. You got another one to be a.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Nah, nah, nah. You know what I told you? You know what I said the other day? Let me tell you something. Real quick. Real quick and I'm going to hand it right back to you. Hand it right back to you. When I wasn't loyal
Starting point is 01:59:57 and whatever, I would never watch sports. I would not know. But now, when you're loyal, you figure a way to be loyal, I'll stay home and watch a Mariners game. Yo, I try to get him out during the game. I try to get him out during the game. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I try to get you out.
Starting point is 02:00:31 That's a goal. That's a goal. Because I wanted some big brother talk, right? You know what that means, Ed? I try to get him out during the game. I need some big brother talk. He's like, yo, I wanted to stay home and get some rest. Yo, I'll show you the text.
Starting point is 02:00:39 I said, what? No, you're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do that. That's a big bro to talk. He's like, yo, I wanted to stay home and get some rest. No. Yo, I'll show you the text. I said, what?
Starting point is 02:00:47 No, you're allowed to a nap. You're allowed to a nap. Because he asked it back and tuned into his room. No, stop. Let me tell you this. One of the real slayers of sleepwalking. Was growth. 830.
Starting point is 02:00:57 We put on this earth to grow. I mean, you got to get all that shit out when you're young. So you got to go through them experiences. Ain't nothing but by acting. Nothing new under the sun Sun being everything is in the by order so right even the worst shit that has even happened to you in your life it brought you to here not even a muscle can grow without resistance your muscle is dead chillin then you burn it until you stretch it
Starting point is 02:01:15 make it uncomfortable to shit on growth that's like us no go to jail some people get shot there but I'm saying what you didn't mention it's what we're supposed to strive for is growth right yeah you know artistic son is like having a double life because they depend on you you but you said was it no no no what I'm saying no I didn't say that what saying... No, I didn't say that. I didn't mean that if I said that. What I mean is you can still be a scumbag. I know people with artistic thoughts. I know that.
Starting point is 02:01:53 That's still cheap. And they're going to pay for that. They're going to pay for that. They're going to pay for that. No, they might not. I mean, listen. It's scary because they depend on you twice as your average kid. Absolutely. No, they... You understand what I'm saying? They're the same person. No, no, it's deep. It's deep because they depending you twice as your average kid. Absolutely. No
Starting point is 02:02:07 No, it's deep it's deep And he's Asperger's so it's a different thing cuz he's saying dad I need you for the rest of my life People people we were taught that when you hear autistic or somebody with cerebral palsy that they're slow or they're they're messed up But not that's not really the case in most cases or all cases and I mean that they're actually in the spread up and spread up Yeah, yeah My son tells me dad don't worry about it. It's gonna be handled He's ahead of his own he was always put to teach you you know I mean a lot of people would say you know I mean it's just a baby he didn't ask to be here
Starting point is 02:02:51 that's not the truth because we all chose our family your mother and your father just made made the way for you to get here you know how many bins of sperm cells had to die you fought to come in that family to teach your mother. Mad business. Mad business. So I grew up. That's what I'm saying. So it's more of a challenge. Listen, I'm having this deep. This deep. This shit don't work, man.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Let me tell you, I see no kids. I just say, no, see, I said, you don't. You just screw life. So they got zero children right now. What you talking about? This kid's zero children. I ain't gonna lie. This shit don't work at all.
Starting point is 02:03:24 His dick has his own abortion. Listen, eventually I'm gonna hit a game. All right, man. Listen, man. We done talking about this shit. Tory Lanez and Pusha T might go back and forth. Who cares? 6ix9ine album was delayed. lanes and uh push the t's might might go back and forth who cares um six nine album six nine albums delayed uh due to the indictment who cares who cares uh because no i mean we want him to come
Starting point is 02:03:57 home we don't want to we don't care about his album we care about him and trey way and all the other gang members coming home that's what the fuck we care about. Cardi B surprises a mom with a new crib. I think that's honorable, Cardi B. I think that you're a fucking beautiful soul inside. I don't want to say you're beautiful outside because you have a man and whatever. But Paul is definitely super, super, super drunk. So Cardi B, man, congratulations on buying your mom's a
Starting point is 02:04:25 new home my mom's a home in Florida she's like she's like you trying to get me because you know I want my mom's move out here but uh yeah so yeah a bit of the Tory Lanez and push the tl people she't think Pusha T is going to take that bait. 6ix9ine album delayed. Stevie J, we respect you. Cardi B, surprises mom. Adrian and Pacquiao, whatever.
Starting point is 02:04:54 The indictment, in fact, you're already called in. CNN, we had Capone called in. Art Basu, please, we're going to see you out here. We're going to smoke up. Tory Lanez and Jonah Lucas, we don't know where this ends at. Pusha T in Toronto. Maybe
Starting point is 02:05:09 Pusha's going to try to get Drake back. I'm not sure. Snoop Dogg salutes you on the star. And Kim Porter, rest in peace forever. We are blessed by your presence. Every time I met this woman, she would always be
Starting point is 02:05:24 the star of the party she walked in she left my room she was a beautiful gorgeous black queen and um you know going way too soon we don't we don't know when it was what is over we're not trying to investigate we're just trying to support and send the love to the kids and everybody else you know from the cones family to the uh porter family we respect you know, from the Coles family to the Porter family. We respect you, Dream Chats family. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. Yo, this is my brother, Gino Cash.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Gino Sims in the building. Make some noise. Yo, Gino Cash, we totally forgot. But listen man We wrapping up this CNN reunion anniversary What do you remember About the reunion?
Starting point is 02:06:12 Oh man Classic times Miami San Jose Studios Criteria Wet Willies Yo just so just so much. That wasn't even like a project.
Starting point is 02:06:31 That was more like a party. He's partying and recording on the run. Wow. Wow. Wow. And we just turned 18 years. 18 years. It was crazy.
Starting point is 02:06:47 The album's still not, the mixes are still together. You know, it's still classic, it's still timeless. You know, and we did it. Well, Gino Sims, man, Gino Cash, thank you for calling in. Thank you. But listen, we've been calling around asking everybody what they're thankful for for Thanksgiving. And we have to ask you what you're thankful for, in. Thank you. But listen, we've been calling around asking everybody what they thankful for for Thanksgiving and we have to ask you what you thankful for, sir.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Thankful for living, having freedom, and be able to celebrate good times with good people like, you know, CNN and all my family and all that. There you go, man.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Well, make some noise for Geno Sims. God damn, make some noise. Hey! He just said, what up, what up? Get your finger out of the mic, man. All right, Gino, man, we'll speak to you later, man.
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