Drink Champs - Episode 149 w/ Young Dolph

Episode Date: November 30, 2018

N.O.R.E and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs sit down with the King of Memphis Young Dolph. They talk about the independent game, coming up in Memphis and much more. Follow Drin...k Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:37 Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be? Hopefully you're with us. It's your boy, N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ E-F-M.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And it's Drink Champs, motherfucker. Happy hour. Make some noise! And when it comes to new artists, I don't think he's new because he's been here 10 years and plus. When it comes to relentless hustle, I've seen this young man come out. People, you know, try to block his blessings. He stay out there. He hustle.
Starting point is 00:03:17 He's for real independent, like for real independent. Got all his own shit. Out here hustling, doing what he got to do. People try to block his blessings. He's out here hustling relentless. Claiming the king of Memphis. Claiming his throne. He's out here doing what he got to do like he does what he got to do.
Starting point is 00:03:30 People are offering him money. 22 goddamn million. And he turned it down. I don't need to know why. Right now. We're at the bottom of this right now. Right now. That's more than Drake.
Starting point is 00:03:39 As you know, Apple gave Drake 20. He got over 22. We need to know why. And the man, that lets you know that the man is a serious businessman. In case you don't know what the fuck is going on, Young Dolph is in the building. Make some noise!
Starting point is 00:03:54 Now, I read somewhere that you actually, you actually was born in Chicago. Right. How did you go from Chicago? Because that's two different totally mentalities. So, how long have you lived in Chicago? Because that's two different totally mentalities. So, how long you lived in Chicago? Oh, I was born in Chicago, but my grandma came and got me from Chicago
Starting point is 00:04:13 when I was probably like two years old. Wow. So like when I was two years old, that's when I went to Memphis. Right, right. And what's the difference, have you ever went back to Chicago and like visited it? All the time. Okay, and you still got family out there? And what part of difference, have you ever went back to Chicago and visited it? All the time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You still got family out there? What part of Chicago were you from? Southside. Mm. Yeah. Mm. That's a weird combination, Chicago and Philadelphia. It's really like the same thing because Chicago is bigger.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That's all. Right. Now, is MJ and A-Ball, MJ? A-Ball and DJ. They from Memphis, correct? So how was that? Because I had to be like the first rappers that come from Memphis, right? They're pioneers.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, they're pioneers. So how was it seeing them come up from Memphis? Oh, they legend. You know what I'm saying? So it's just big. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's just big. You know what I'm saying? What? What? Like, A-volume, JG, Three 6 Mafia. What?
Starting point is 00:05:08 You know what I mean? Like, they set the tone for a whole lot of ways in the game, like right now. What? Like, even when you think of the sounds and the songs and the way that it's hot right now, it's like, it's a whole lot of Three 6 Mafia in the DNA. Very true. That's very true, that's very true. So describe to a person who's never been to the town, describe to them how they would see
Starting point is 00:05:34 when you go to the town. Oh. It's fun, you know what I mean? Like to me, like if you got family down there, you down there with the right people, like it's fun. You know what I'm saying? Like if you don't and you just down there, you know what I mean, you just got to know how to move around. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:56 And I ain't going to lie, man. He walked in here like old school, thugged out with the team. It was like 900 of y'all. I liked it. That's how I used to roll back in the day. I used to get in trouble, I used to roll. Let's make some noise. I ain't gonna lie, when I saw that,
Starting point is 00:06:14 because that's hip hop to me. Like when a person come and they just, they one deep or something just like that, it's like, all right, cool. Like I like to see, I didn't see you cooled up. I like to see people. No, I'm just my boy, man. Yeah, but that's so dope because, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:06:26 that's something in hip-hop that we've got to keep continuing because you don't even have to help. You don't even have to give a person money. If they're seeing your grind and they're seeing your hustle and they got grind and they got hustle, they're going to automatically start hustling. Anybody, especially the good ones, anyone that's amongst your crew, they're going to start hustling.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So when I see that, when I see certain people, like when I see Meek Mill and I see you and you roll with the entourage and you got, I see your boys looking at you and concerned. I like that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I come from that. You know what I mean? And that era. So let's make some noise for that once again, god damn it. So, so, so, what was, what was your,
Starting point is 00:07:03 like when you first started rapping, what was your, was it to get out of the hood, or was it because this is something you liked to do? All of them. You know what I mean? It was just an opportunity, and I know I was a hustler. You know what I mean? From the get-go, from the start, I just knew I was a super hustler. I had super hustle in me.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You know what I'm saying? I just love music. You know what I'm saying? And like, I just love music, you know what I'm saying? Like, personal violence is just something I wanted to do, and I said I was gonna do it, so. Like, if I'm gonna decide to do it, I gotta master it, I gotta do it big. Alright, you visualized yourself back then, where you at now?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Exactly. You knew exactly? Exactly. Goddamn, make some noise for that, goddammit! Goddamn! I ain't gonna damn, make some noise for that, god damn it. God damn it. I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie. I never envisioned myself as successful. I'm being honest with you.
Starting point is 00:07:52 What would you tell me? I thought I was gonna sell. What point do you think you did? After War Report? It wasn't, War Report I was still selling crack. I had an album out, I was still selling crack, my dude. Like I swear to God, I had an album out. That shit was going gold,
Starting point is 00:08:04 and I was out on the block selling crack. It wasn't what I was. So you came to Crazy Goods, you were still selling crack? Oh, for sure. I looked like it, look at the picture. I looked like I was still, I didn't make a dollar off of music at first.
Starting point is 00:08:14 My first album, I had made $5,000, but I didn't make a dollar off of music, so I didn't visualize that I would be 20 years in the game. So you saying from the beginning, from you not even having a dollar, from one dollar in rap, you knew that you was going to be here. Yeah, because I just knew I,
Starting point is 00:08:33 I just had, I was just determined to do it. Couldn't nothing stop me, so it was like, yeah, I knew I was going to be here. Was there artists that you looked up to before you came in that you was like, this is, like it inspired you, or this is the way you want wanna go, like the lane? Yeah, like really all of them from the Gucci
Starting point is 00:08:54 to Master P to Baby, the whole Cash Money era, Three 6 Mafia, like all of it, you know what I'm saying? Like all of it was like motivation to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, all of it was, like, motivation to me. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Yeah. What's your relationship with Gucci, man? That's my boy.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, out of the whole industry. Like, you know, you got a couple of people that, like, you like, this is my boy, you know what I'm saying? Like, you ain't got too many people in, like, the industry, and you keep it at that. Like, it's the industry.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Like, you work, you do your thing, you get your money, you know what I'm saying? Keep your distance, you know what I'm saying? Right. But like that's my partner. Right. You seem like you're not affected by the industry. Like most people who come into this industry, they make some money, they start, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:36 hanging out in Hollywood. You can't be, that Hollywood shit'll fuck you up. The Hollywood shit'll fuck you up. You can't be too successful. The Hollywood shit'll fuck you up. Right, you gotta, yeah. Nah, you can be super successful but you just
Starting point is 00:09:48 gotta know how to move. You ain't got your own mentality. You ain't a leader. You can fall for anything. You ask and you get. Now, I seen you on Instagram I believe it was,
Starting point is 00:10:05 and you pulled out a piece of paper, and you said, you asked your fans, I believe, said you'd do it, said you signed a 22-man. What kind of units are you moving out there, goddammit? Did they open you, I'm proud of you, brother. It was like, I appreciate it, but it was a labor deal. You know what I'm saying, a labor deal. Oh, like a PMD, like a 50-50 type of deal? Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You know what I'm saying? It was a labor deal. You know what I mean? It really was a good deal. You know what I mean? A super good deal, to tell the truth. But it's just, I see something else. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Like I got something else on my mind, what I want to do. You know what I mean? But at the same time, it wasn't no wrong decision. Right. Whether I did it or I didn't do it, ain't no wrong decision because I know what I'm doing. You know what I mean? I'm focused, I got a plan for this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And how important, is it about ownership? It's always about ownership. Mm, you do it. Mm, mm. You know what I mean? The game different now. It's just like you just said, like when you drop and you was going go and you're done
Starting point is 00:11:07 He's doing that is like it's different now. I mean like nowadays. It's more like your fans got more They got more access to the artists is like you got more access to the fans and like you can do shit like I'm Spinning your money like you can like you can master the game dog the business part of it dog and really like keep people out your business as much as and long as you want to until you want to that's that's probably the illest thing about this new generation is that you guys are claiming ownership like that's what jay-z was fighting for that's what uh all of the artists back then was fighting for because we had to run to Atlantic. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:11:47 We had to run to a Def Jam. Right now, you can go with Empire, hit with Ghazi. Ghazi lets you own your stuff. And he'll put up a couple of dollars marketing. And you go out. So you put pressure. We got a shout out. Tech N9ne was doing that.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Tech N9ne, definitely, definitely. Big him up. But there wasn't a part of you that just said, you know what? Let me take this motherfucking money Get the fuck out of here. I started to but I didn't because It like money ain't no problem. It ain't no issue. It ain't nothing but the paper you 22 million my nigga It designs I ain't number the paper that you can agree the gross in a way with over the next 18 to 24 months
Starting point is 00:12:24 So like me, I'm just made different. I'm wired to look different from everybody else. You know what I'm saying? I'll rather wait and chill and let them couple months go by and still own all of my shit and get that money like over the course of time. You know what I mean? I ain't finna get ready to fuck off and go blow
Starting point is 00:12:39 the whole dub anyway. You see what I'm saying? So like, yeah, I'm gonna wait. You know what I mean? I'm gonna get that money plus some more and keep all of my shit on everything damn I think I'm a different type of nigga I would've been in Tahiti nigga like doing some other shit but your first mixtape was hosted by DJ Scream right now that's a DJ from Atlanta correct how did how did y'all make that connection Oh show into Atlanta no light off in the gray to do it I think we're gonna put together real tight right now I mean we got beats from everybody all the hard producers they
Starting point is 00:13:16 told me to wait yeah I got a feature from to China features from a bottom JG goddamn got drama boy to produce some beats. I just put together a hard ass project and I was like, I'm finna be ready to give myself a real shot and really see what this shit finna do. And this shit was like an instant. Like, what I mean, like I pressed up like... The first order was 20,000. Gave all the CDs away, pressed up another 20,000. Gave all the CDs away.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Pressed up another 20,000. Gave all the CDs away. You know what I'm saying? On your own? Hell yeah, on my own. God damn it. You know what I mean? God damn it.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Like, that was just my whole strategy. My whole thing was to just make, get myself super hot, super fast. All right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, shit, I pull up and my coupe, my goddamn self, giving away my own shit. You know what I mean? So, like, shit, I pull up in my coupe, my goddamn self, giving away my own shit, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:07 So all of my boys know how dead serious I am. They like shit, nigga. They see me doing this shit, like, so they just as serious as I am. You know what I mean? So I think that's why that shit went like that, dog. Because you got an artist, Key Glock, too, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Now, you're going to take him the independent route as well? It's like... What if he wants to sign a debt jam, what would you say? Really at the end of the day like Glock no always being more control over his shit like he it ain't all about what I want No, I'm saying like don't you pay attention to like I treat God shit like a little bit more like Tender and more closely and careful than I treat my own shit No, I'm saying like like I'm getting them on like like like like instantly instantly hot super hot fast You know I'm saying so it like
Starting point is 00:14:59 Shit, just to keep it 100. I don't need them. He ain't gonna need them All right Yeah, just to keep it 100, I don't need him. He ain't going to need him. Right, right. You know what I mean? Like, Glock ain't just no rapper. He paying attention and looking and seeing everything I'm doing. And I'm teaching him as we go. So it's like he going to be able to do the same thing, get his paper and make decisions like this. It's going to be super beneficial.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Not just to make the decision that's beneficial for today. Right. You know what I mean? Right. Like the motherfucking team, you're a beneficial decision. That's very smart, man. I'm not going to lie, man.
Starting point is 00:15:29 That's very smart. You're very, very, very mature, man. Yeah, I smoke a lot of weed, so. I even got some champagne for you. They told me you're not a big drinker, but I don't know if you know, on this show, you know, we celebrate our artist's life.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You know what I'm saying? So many people want to pick a person up after they die and say how much, we want to tell you we love you in your life. You know what I'm saying? So many people want to pick a person up after they die and say how much, we want to tell you we love you in your face, you understand what I'm saying? There's so many shows that they don't do that and this is what we are. So we celebrate your life, your career,
Starting point is 00:15:56 this is a Moet, you can just take a sip if you don't want to. And we all celebrate this nigga, goddammit. Come on. So, I read somewhere that both of your parents were like on drugs. My father dealt with something like that. Right. And so how do you overcome something like that?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Living everyday. Just keep living. That shit gonna come to you like, you ain't got no choice, You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit going to come to you like you even run from real life or you stand there and eat that shit up, fight this shit, run that shit over and keep going. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, I jumped in the street early.
Starting point is 00:16:35 You know what I mean? Once I jumped in the street, all this shit hit me like, damn. It ain't just them. Everybody that jump in the streets get fucked up. Nobody leaves themselves. Nobody leave on top. You know what I mean? So, that was just some personal shit I had to take within myself. don't let everybody jump in the streets and get fucked up. Don't nobody leave successful. Don't nobody leave on top. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:46 So, that was just some personal shit I had to take with it myself. Right. I got to forgive them. That's the only mom and dad I got. Right. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Goddamn it. Something happened to them, goddamn it. Then it's going to be like, I'm out here doing all this hustling and hard ass maneuvering out here for shit. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You know what I mean? Right. A lot of niggas do this shit for these bitches i do this shit for my motherfucker like i'm god i do this shit for my folk you know what i'm saying i do this shit with my family on everything right now it seemed like it seemed like you rock solid man you know i'm saying i think this is our first time meeting i think we um like probably been in passing but i've always heard just rock solid shit about you you know i'm saying like you ain't about to playing around bullshit and you got your people with you.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And that's very important because people lose their mind. And eventually, you will lose yours, too. It's going to happen. Trust me. You're going to slip up one time. Trust me. And it's cool to have your friends next to you, though, and tell you, yo, you know what? You bugged out that day.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You got to have good friends. You got to, man. You can't just have them yes-men around. You're going to lose yourself. Especially in this shit right here. That's how you go Hollywood. We were just talking about that shit. That's how you go Hollywood, and you don't even know it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah. Yeah. No. That'd be the shit. And the crazy thing, I've been in this game 20 years. So I see a dude come and they come and they be big headed and you know they got the the latest petite protect and they got everything and then all of a sudden home that second single drop and then or now
Starting point is 00:18:16 now they now they humble they self and then and then the thing about the industry is when you're on top when you're on top you've got to be a humble because the same people you shit on while you're on top you're gonna you're on top, when you're on top, you've got to be a humble because the same people you shit on while you're on top, you're going to see them on the way down. But it's always good to be a humble dude anyway. It's always good. Don't get me wrong. I don't think I'm the shit, but I'm just humble so I can keep these relationships for this amount of time. You know what I'm saying? So how is the relationship working with Ghazi Empire?
Starting point is 00:18:44 That's my boy. Yeah. That's a solid dude? That's my boy. Yeah. That's a solid dude. That's my boy. I've been doing distribution for Gazi for like the last three years or something like that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You know what I mean? So it's like we do good business together. You know what I mean? Like we're one, two. So it's like we got history to make. Describe, oh shit, Gazi.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That's what we said. Gazi walks in. What the fuck? Oh my God. God damn it. Make some noise. God damn it. God damn it. Describe, oh shit, Gazi, that's what we said, Gazi walked in, what the fuck, oh my god! God damn, make some noise, god damn! God damn it! As we said it, man, that's a rock solid dude. Yeah, that's my boy.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So, so describe, you just said distribution, right? Right. A lot of people who, you know, listen to this show, they're just fans of the culture, they don't really know, so describe to a person who's listening to this listening to you and you saying because you're independent but distribution so they could understand so yeah the importance of their points of my there's like it's super important now major like when you walk in when you in the mall you walk pad champ so you
Starting point is 00:19:39 walk past footlocker we see them joins that you see the Jordan right there in the front of the store you know how't got to go looking for them. You know what I mean? New Air Force 1s drop, they right there in the window, they right there. The new LeBrons drop, they right there. The new KDs drop, they right there. You know what I mean? Like, their distribution like super important.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's about the placement. Right. Being everywhere. Right. For sale. Right. Everything for sale. And it's still your product. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. It's still dope. Still dope. It's dope. That's what I'm talking about, God damn it. That's what I'm talking about, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 So, did you give your own key Glock a goddamn Mercedes Benz? A SL? Yeah, that one. That was something light. Fuck that. Ask me what he doing now. That was something like? Fuck that. Ask me what he doing now.
Starting point is 00:20:26 What he doing now? One mixtape later. One mixtape later? One mixtape. No, he just dropped another mixtape, like, two months ago, three months ago. He going crazy. Now, the young nigga got a McLaren, a Viennes truck,
Starting point is 00:20:39 and he got some more shit going on. Goddamn. Goddamn. It's good to see niggas winning. It's good to see niggas winning. It's good to see niggas winning. Baby, hey, like, this shit wasn't that easy for me to come up. You know what I mean? But it's like, that's the reason why I stayed away from all them bullshit.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I had one, two, three, four, five million dollar deals over them course of years. You know what I'm saying? Because it like, the young dawg shit wasn't important to me. Paper rap was important to me. Now, like, look what's going on. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I sacrificed that shit for niggas like Key Glock
Starting point is 00:21:10 to come and goddamn turn dirt into diamonds. Nah, I ain't going to lie. I can look in your face, and I can see how happy you are. When you said that, like, I can see the sincerity. Yeah. And that's what we got to keep pushing, man. Our culture, we got to keep pushing for, we don't only got to be the only rich nigga in the crew.
Starting point is 00:21:27 If 10 of us is rich and we all buy the bottles, then we look great. But if it's just me buying the bottles, then it's just, it's kind of horrible at the end of the day. And so you got to put other people in the position so other people would take care of the bill. At Taco Sack, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 You got to have other niggas take it. Taco Sack and Mr. Chow's and motherf Taco Sack, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. We got to have other niggas take it. Taco Sack and Mr. Chow's and motherfucking Prime 112, you know? I don't want to be the only nigga pulling on my car, nigga. You know what I'm saying? All right? Take heed, motherfuckers. All right? Key Glock, nigga.
Starting point is 00:21:55 These niggas is buying niggas Mercedes and Lamborghini trucks out here, all right? Y'all got to relax, all right? All right? Look at that direction. I want niggas to wake up, all right? No, but that's beautiful, man. That's beautiful, man. So what's next for you, man?
Starting point is 00:22:10 You're going to get into acting. What you going to do? Stay focused, you know what I'm saying? Do everything to come my way and master it and kill it. You know what I'm saying? Like everything that come with it. Okay. Everything that come with it.
Starting point is 00:22:22 You know what I'm saying? We on top of that. Okay. Okay. You got a girl? Oh, you got a girl? it okay everything come with it and I'm saying we don't talk about it okay yeah you do you got a girl oh you got a girl about the action guy is smashing I gotta relax I could imagine I got a bad to be in and how does it feel to be famous though like you know I'm saying I'm gonna keep it 100 like The shit I really don't be thinking about the shit
Starting point is 00:22:53 No, I'm saying and it's like my partner. That's what we clash Yeah, a lot of times no I'm saying like my boys my partners my brother the shit cooler I feel like I still do shit moving around don't give a damn about myself and all this shit like bro. You can't just do it Just like this by yourself doing this and doing that knows they're like you can't do I know is you want to do this shit where you see that but it's like it's different I don't say all right, but this how I got shot in California Oh, I mean like by my damn self walking my damn self, walking up to the door, walking up to the hotel. A sneaker store? You know what I'm saying? No, in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Okay. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I'm by myself. I'm going in. They coming out. They six, seven deep. You know what I mean? So, it, like, whose fault was it?
Starting point is 00:23:35 It was my fault. It was random, I assume? You know what I'm saying? It was random or there's a periodic, like, just... It was some random shit, like, well, fuck all that, but it's just a point. You know what I'm saying? It's like... You shouldn't have been by yourself.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You can't move around like how you usually move around. You know what I'm saying? You can't move around like how you usually move around. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know what I mean? Was it because you had jewelry on? A lot of times I walk around by myself with no jewelry on and I'm like, I'm cool. But when I walk around with jewelry on by myself, I know I got to keep that two five with me.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Bum bum! Just in case. Bum bum! Oh shit, Sean, you there? Okay, yeah, you Joe, I'm sorry. I'm just spreading some negativity. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I'm going back to the hood real quick. My bad. I can't even know I'm saying that. But yeah. Please don't be duped by a dope no more. Keep one crazy nigga with you. You know what I mean? No, we're good, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Them niggas had just got up out. They had just left out the car. They went and got something. Like, bro, we finna go get something to eat. I'm like, shit, I'm gonna stay right here. They're like, well, we gonna sit here. I'm like, y'all go ahead on. I'm like, y'all go ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:30 They go next door, get something to eat. I'm in the truck smoking. I'm like, fuck, don't think we're gonna go over here right quick. And that shit just, it's just some coincidental ass shit. You know what I mean? But like I said, I can't blame nobody but myself. So you know how that shit go. So you had to start moving different after that of course
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah, but it's like it really not too much different club been doing this shit. Everybody's new Life it was at the time he came on like 2 o'clock at the hospital and you had to fit in the gym That was hard. That ain't gonna lie. Nigga had to sling and sling. I said, this is the new pot. This nigga came out. You know what I'm talking about? He had to sit and sling. He had to lawyer that. Nigga said, I'm back. New business take tomorrow. I said, holy crap. This nigga was recorded in the hospital. This nigga's crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:15 You know what I'm talking about, right? I looked at this shit. I said, this nigga's invincible. I'm being honest. I said, that was hard. And you guys, whoever edited that, they did a great job. He put the whole editing. He got out the honest. I think that's that that was hard and you guys whoever edited that they did a great job He put the whole edit to that He got out the joint. I remember it was like a Gucci shirt on or something He had his shit in the sling and he looked like he know he looked like
Starting point is 00:25:35 He looked like Scarface. It was Tupac and Scarface got together And this thing and this thing and this thing And I looked and I said He got it And then he said And then he said I said, I know these niggas is downloading everything. That shit was so market. I would have never thought of that. That was so genius. Whoever thought of that?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Y'all niggas is thinking, my dude. World up. And you even filmed yourself in the hospital, right? Yo, that was real, my dude. They were just coming up out of them. That's the advantage of these young people. They're just coming up out of them. They're just coming up out of them. They're just coming up out of them. They're just coming up out of them. my dude, world up. And you even filmed yourself in the hospital, right? Yo, that was real, my dude.
Starting point is 00:26:06 They were just coming up out of there. That's the advantage of these young people. You know what I'm saying? Because they can actually, like imagine if, you know, Pun coulda, you know what I'm saying? Like when he went to the fat farm and lost that 100 pounds, if he coulda filmed that shit, like. Oh, it would've been crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah, it would've been crazy. Like social media. You get it, you get it, you get it, you get it. You made like a tragedy into fucking... I actually heard a story. I want to know if this is true. Shout out to Rich from our production team. He told me this story.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He said some kids at a coffee shop were playing your music and they got fired. Hell yeah. Oh yeah. And then you were doing Rolling Loud in Miami. Oh yeah. And then you had them on stage and then you broke them off with some bread. Hell yeah. Can, yeah. And then you were doing Rolling Loud in Miami. Oh, yeah. And then you had him on stage, and then you broke him off with some bread.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Hell yeah. Can you tell the story? Yeah, that was a beautiful story. It was just crazy, bro, because they was at Duke University. They was on... The Blue Devils. Right. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It was on campus at a coffee shop. You know what I mean? They had got fired. It was two people got fired from the store. They were just playing the music. They were playing Get Paid. you know what I'm saying? And so, it's just like when I heard about it, I just felt like shit, they got fired playing my shit.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Like I got to see about them, I got to fuck with them. You said they in Indiana, right? That's what you said? No, Duke. Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, yeah. Okay, okay. Up in North Carolina. The Blue Devils.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So, we flew them to Rolling Loud. You know what I mean? Yup, yup, in Miami. Flew them to Rolling Loud. Just let them enjoy themselves. You know what I'm saying? Like gave them some bread. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:37 How many people was it that you flew down? There were two. That's great. That's two people that got fired. You gave them like ten bands apiece? Yeah. That's a great test though, man. I don't think I've ever heard bands apiece. Yeah It's the new version of Martin Luther man, let's just throw it out there Help them saving his friends. You know, I mean the man is out here doing the right to shit
Starting point is 00:27:59 We're gonna start to moving that people gotta start salute more Oh, I know why your voice is waiting We gotta start saluting that people gotta start saluting more of that man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's that's- What the- who was that? Mark! Oh, I ain't gonna lie, your voice is way too loud. It a gig, it a gig. You need to- you need to- It a gig, it a gig. Put some bass on your shit, nigga. Come on.
Starting point is 00:28:12 What for? You wanna take a break real quick so Shaheen can just cut- sneak in? Yeah, yeah, let's bring him in. Cool, boom. Yeah. Take a break real quick. He's mic'd up. Huh?
Starting point is 00:28:19 He's mic'd up. He's mic'd up. He's mic'd up? Yo, Shaheen Reid! Come in here, baby. Oh, you moved the chair? Okay, yeah, cool. We're gonna get Shaheen Reid in here. Cut. Okay, no cut. Just, Shaheen Reid. Come in here, baby. Oh, you moved the chair? Okay, yeah, cool. We're going to get Shaheen Reid in here. Okay, no cuts. Just bring him in here. Come on. Come on. Come on, Shaheen Reid. We're going to make sure Dolph's career is celebrated tonight.
Starting point is 00:28:42 What's going on? Yup, we gonna celebrate Young Dolph tonight, baby. We're gonna celebrate you, brother. Come on, where you at, though? Come on in there? Okay, all right, all right, what's going on? Look at this shirt on. He got the best shirt on in the building. Pardon my laugh, my brother.
Starting point is 00:29:00 He got the best shirt on in the building, my brother. What's going on? So, all right, cool. Okay, all right, cool. All right. You want me to do shit? Hold on, I'll tell you about this. Yep, we ready? You good, Sean?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice.
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Starting point is 00:30:41 Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain.
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Starting point is 00:33:28 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Should we, like, do another little intro, or just go straight into it? Just to say, join us right here. Yeah. Okay, intro it? Cool. Ready? You're gonna have to say it. You're gonna be like, N-R-E-E-F-N. You're gonna be like, Shaheen. You want us to do like an official, full intro? Okay, just alright, cool. I got it.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Just introduce it. He's here. Yup. Can I open it? Oh, we got an open bottle of rosé right here, baby. If you want that. If you want some Syracuse, we got some Bombay. We got Haitian beer as well. Hey, relax.
Starting point is 00:34:14 That's my hair. I'm so sorry, Shane. I'm so sorry. Here, you take some of the rosé. We good? How we looking? Good. Roll. Roll. Are we looking? Good roll roll Well Yeah, so we're back boy and are you broken Shaheen we because we wanted reinforcements to make sure we
Starting point is 00:34:57 Journalist goddammit Big up with my dukes as well as you knows my brothers drunk. We drunk facts, you real facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um. You got the pink shirt no more too. Oh, shit damn. I'm almost pink, right? I'm almost pink. I'm pink.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I got rose gold on, that's technically pink, man. You know what I mean? Um, but your first show, you opened up for OJ the Juice Band? Right. Is that true? And did you have to pay to open it? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Get out of here! Hey, he kept it real. That's dumb. That's real though. They had on some shit like, they was throwing a party. They was throwing a show and I knew it was going to be crazy. And this is OJ, the hot OJ that you was rapping to. He was on fire.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Right, right. They was throwing a party. I knew it was going to be crazy. And the promoters, they like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't, no, I just started rapping. So it was was like I just had to put myself in a position like where I got to perform ain't no giving them an option to let me perform like man let me give you out $3,000 right let me walk my nose in like let me open up and this is in your city yeah okay yeah that's a smart thing to do yeah this is a lot of new
Starting point is 00:36:04 cats right now you pay to get on some of these tours you know you know I never Yeah, okay I never knew that you know, I never never knew that when I went on tour These are artists that was opening up for me like it took me 10 years to catch on I thought they were just good artists and I would just realize that the artists never traveled with us It would only be like the local person from that town. So you go to Kansas, there'd be somebody open up in Kansas and you sitting there and you talking to them. I had no idea that they were charging them. The tricks of the trade from the past is that people were paying for them to be on these
Starting point is 00:36:36 tours and these fans don't know it, so the headliners co-signing that. Exactly. That's what I thought. So they automatically buy into it. But this worked out for you though. No, this is a smart investment. This worked out perfect for you. That's what I thought. So they didn't buy into it. But this worked out for you though. This worked out perfect for you. Not to cut you off, we got some people that were smart like
Starting point is 00:36:51 Eazy-E. He was promoting the shows and he was having N.W.A. open up for somebody to ask that he was actually promoting Brandon Tate. You mean doing his own concerts? Bringing out the artists? Luke was doing his own concerts, bringing out the artists. Yeah, Lube was doing the same thing in Miami.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Now I'm not going to front. I thought you were going to wear the dolphin chain, but you got on the Smurf chain. Is that a Smurf? Yeah, that's the Lube one. That's the most expensive Smurf I ever seen in my life. I'd be confused if that's a Smurf. Yeah, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:37:22 What Smurf is that? Paper Ralph Frank. Who? Paper Ralph Frank. Frank? Oh, okay, that's a smurf. Yeah, I'm just saying. What smurf is that? Paper Ralph Frank. Who? Paper Ralph Frank. Frank, oh okay, that's a different smurf. I don't think that's a smurf. Yeah, that is. Is that a Jitsi smurf?
Starting point is 00:37:32 I don't think that's a Jitsi. That's okay, that's okay, we make shit up. We hit him up. Hit him up. I don't mind coming to the gym. You better, you better add that to your shit. So listen, you came in the game like, oh damn near like Rockefeller.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You had bread before coming in the game? Because average nigga paying $3,000 to perform had to. I just had a vision. I just knew what I wanted. I didn't pay $3,000 to go get on any stage. You know what I'm saying? It was a certain particular night and particular artist and certain shit I was trying to do.
Starting point is 00:38:05 You know what I'm saying? It's like a fool with money. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know how that go. You know what I mean? But it's like our Juice Man coming. Juice Man, this one, it was a Juice Man and Gucci Man world.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I know that way. I know that way. So this is like the first time I ever first made a song. I'm like, damn, I need to open up. And my whole thing was I'm really just bullshitting but at the same time like I really want to see what this is going to do too. You know what I'm saying? Like and come to find out I was on to something.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. That was beautiful man. How many shows did you have to do before it really clicked and your city got behind you? Hard body. How many of those times did you have to open up for people before the city just really was like, ah, you know, you want me to jump on this guy?
Starting point is 00:38:56 I opened up. I did that juice, man. I did, uh, two. Damn, that ain't even five sides. It was two. I opened up with Juice, man. Then I did, I threw another one. I threw a part of myself.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I had rented a club, threw a part of myself. And then after that, like, all this shit documented, it's on the internet. Matter of fact, it's called Young Dolph at Level 2. You know what I'm saying? Matter of fact, I had a show. I was like, fuck it, man. I was going to go down here to Texas, went to Texas, went to go buy me a bus down just for the show. Flew back to Memphis. I just had a point to prove. Like, that was my whole It's like, I just had a point to prove. Like, that was my whole mind frame, like I got a point to prove,
Starting point is 00:39:48 I ain't got the cosigner, I ain't Memphis, and I'm by myself, I got a point to prove. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I took every opportunity, every shot, like it was my first, like like like like like no what the fuck what this shit is like your first impression I took I made every impression my first impression that happened to every chance know what I'm saying like make that shit like my first impression you know what I mean like kill everything
Starting point is 00:40:18 you never got a second chance to make a first impression gotta kill it every chance you get. All right. Earth is one of the illest cities, man. Yeah. First time I went to Memphis, Project Pat put me on to sushi. In Memphis? In Memphis?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Damn. That's a real place to be going on. That's a real combination, right? What? Project Pat was fresh out of jail, right? I'm doing a story. Is this when he had chicken heads? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:47 OK. Yeah. And I was doing a story, I think, for a source. This is when magazines actually had money and people used to fly you out. Let's make some noise for when they used to have money, goddammit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But they broke his shit now. Magazines can't get shit now, goddammit. Yeah, continue. I'm sorry. So in Golden Memphis, and Project Cat, he might have been out of jail maybe like two days. He was like, yo, let's go get something to eat. So I'm thinking I'm about to get the down home soul food or whatever. He's like, yo, we got to go to Sushi.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I'm like, Sushi? Project Cot? This is crazy. We go to the spot, and he orders the illest thing on the menu. He says, give us like four rolls of eel. Eel. Eel. And I'm like, damn, I don't eat eel. You know, we ain't, you know, we just say we do queens, man. It was White Castle or something.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Right, right, yeah, that's what we want, man. It's just that. That's Pinot Grigio, man, right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, yo's Pinot Grigio, man, right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't bitch out from Project Pat. I got to eat this eel, man. You know?
Starting point is 00:41:54 You need to eat it. It's the most amazing shit. It's my favorite thing I get now when I go to all the shows, man. Get the little bit of eel sauce. Oh, my God. That's busting, too. Get a little bit of eel sauce. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's busting, too. Busting in that eel sauce. My first time in Memphis was Elvis' birthday.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Mmm. So I was out there. Everybody was dressed like Elvis. I did. But I was like, yo. I was about like, what is it? What's the street? It is?
Starting point is 00:42:22 It was Prindle Boulevard. Yeah. I'm on that street. I'm like, yo. I'm in a race suit. Yo, word. Everybody was dressed like Elvis what is it, what's the street it is? It was Frizzly Boulevard. Yeah, I'm on that street, I'm like, yo, I'm in the old world, everybody was dressed like Elvis. That's a, so now, cause hip hop, I mean that was Elvis Land at first. So then we say, uh, uh, April.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It's called Young Dog Boulevard now. Now it's Young Dog, so let's make some noise for that, god damn it, god damn it, let's make some noise for that, god damn it. So how's it feel, because the thing about it was, you guys are like, kind of making it like a Wu-Tang thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody from there, like how does it feel
Starting point is 00:42:52 that a lot of people from your city is popping out? Because remember, when 8Ball and MJG did it, it was just them. Yeah. It was no, they had nobody else, but now you got a bunch of artists. Does it feel good, or it feels like like let me stay in my lane in my business It will always feel good to see your own team like like when right?
Starting point is 00:43:14 right yeah So it's like like Like that's a plus sign. I'm do nothing but keep opening the door for new artists. Memphis got a lot of those shit. You hear that shit all in the DNA, all of the pop music that's on the radio right now. Now, if you was to see a young artist coming up and you was to try to sign him, how would you take it if he didn't want to sign, if he wanted to do the same thing that you wanted to do?
Starting point is 00:43:44 How would you take that? The most't want to sign, if he wanted to do the same thing that you wanted to do? How would you take that? The most important thing is really understanding somebody's vision, and seeing what it is that they really want to do and what they're trying to get out of it. You know what I mean? It's like me coming up. I remember a lot of, not just major labels was trying to sign me, but major artists with labels
Starting point is 00:44:03 was trying to sign me. Those artists, you know what I'm saying? And like, it took them a minute to figure out like, well damn, that's what Dawg doing, that's, nah, he ain't trying to do that. You know what I'm saying? Right. Do you have a meeting with Roc Nation?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Didn't Roc Nation try to sign you as well? It was, I was talking to some people from there, but that was a while ago. Alright. That was a long, that was a good, good while ago. So what happens if Eniscope or Apple Music comes and says, we telling you to name your price. We telling you to name your price. And terms, you gotta make the terms. And terms, they telling you to make the deal. Price is different. You still wake name your price. Who we? And terms, you gotta make the terms.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And terms, they telling you to make the deal. Price is different. You still wake up the price. Right. I would say again. So if a label comes to you right now, whether it be Apple Music or, just you know one of the big conglomerates.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Anything can get done, you know what I'm saying? Like, anything can get done, but it's like, I'm just gonna have to feel super comfortable about the style of the people who I'm saying? Like, anything can get done, but it's like, I'm just gonna have to feel super comfortable about the style, the people who I'm working with, and them understanding my vision most importantly. Right. Alright. When you work your records, do you hire outside sources,
Starting point is 00:45:16 or you use your own style? Both. Okay, okay. It's nice to be on the same team. Yeah, I'm trying. I got a record of mine, I'm trying I got I got a I got a record pump to our guys right now I want to be honest. I gotta finish it up gotta finish it up To vote the walls on Empire right God damn it, cut dude. Cut dude, God damn it. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like the first New York nigga that was on Nogazi.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I put him on the fat, yo. I feel like I was the first nigga that was on that. I'm sorry. I gotta claim my street. I'm sorry. Nogazi right here. Nogazi right here. Great fucking God, man.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Great God. So how does it feel like, me, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm a street nigga, right? I'm a hustler. I still can't be in a room like the award show I still feel claustrophobic Like I just went there and I cameras and shit. I still can't get used to that shit I'm written in this game 20 years And I still can't like you know what I mean? Like just walk a red carpet and feel good like Like I want the red car and feel good like like I
Starting point is 00:46:25 want to make up like they got all ironing into this yeah but still it's just like you know what I do it now though man cool no no I do it good money you might do it but I'm gonna just be honest I feel the fakest in the world cuz not all my friends are this one yes see you God, I feel you on this. There's some niggas that I don't fuck with. And they, what's up, boy? What up, nigga? And I got to be just as fake as them. Because I got to say what's up.
Starting point is 00:46:51 You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is a real... That's my biggest problem in the whole... That's still the problem. I've never got over it. That's my biggest... You got to be a little fake to be in the building. Like, you got to... Because there's certain niggas that... You can't be like little fake to be in the building. Like, you got to, because
Starting point is 00:47:05 there's certain niggas that you can't be like, I don't fuck with you. I'm getting tired of being fake. Is it because you generally don't fuck with or is it just you just don't know them like that? It's a little bit of both. A little bit of both, because there's certain people that just say the right things, man.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I mean, and it's the wrong thing, you know what I mean? Yo, what's going on, man? How you been and all that? And I don't really care if you ask me how I've been. Because I know you don't really give a fuck about how I've been. I just know you know I ain't broke. And that's good enough. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Because most of them, they don't really care. They just, hey, what's up? This is fake. And the thing about it is I have to be cordial as well. So I got to sit there and say, all right, cool. You know, yeah that's fake. And the thing about it is, I have to be cordial as well. So I got to sit there and say, all right, cool. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I wind up saying some fake shit back.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Like, man, how you been? Like, what the fuck? You feel lime in here? Like, okay. You feel lime in here? I can't do that. I'm sorry, but that, I've never, like, 20 years of this shit.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I can't get used to that shit. I can't get used to being somebody that I'm really not. Like I can't use to. There's certain people that you know fuck with you, and they give you the energy. The energy will never lie. You know what I'm saying? And when I go to these award shows, that's why you-
Starting point is 00:48:15 That's how you over jam me, man. Oh, nah, nah, nah, that's why I was asking you. I was asking you. Cause that's, isn't that shit weird? Am I bugging out? No. Or I hit the hell out of no's? Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You can't get used to that shit. I want to ask you, you know how like in front of everyone where going to the award shows can actually get dangerous. Yeah, we used to have big chains just to hit the niggas with it.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah. It wasn't, we wasn't trying to, we wasn't trying to shine when you see niggas with big chains. Niggas was wearing big chains. Yo, Pun used to literally take his shit off and just hit niggas.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I told him, I said, nigga, you're going to get sued for real. But hey, I'm sorry. No, I'm saying that was just the element where it could really pop off. I remember when the Salsa Wars, they had the riot. And they had to cancel the taping and re-tape it. No judgment to BET today. But they would serve apple juice at the bar, my brother. They would serve it.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And Sprite Zero. The thing about it, my dude, God bless them. Because I get it. They don't want niggas drunk. I get it. But we got to enjoy ourselves. You look at these awards, and they be having drinks and cocktails and this is like the stiffest shit ever like big up the BET by the way but um I just didn't have a good time at all
Starting point is 00:49:33 I like BET I like what they're doing You picked them up and then you took it away. I'm just keeping it real. It's the event. I feel like I was just walking through a spider web. You know what I'm saying? They literally, I was like, yo, homie looked at me. It was no Chardonnay. Come on, you can have Chardonnay. I hate Chardonnay, by the way.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Who do you have Chardonnay? Those niggas drink something. They ain't let you smoke. They ain't got Chardonnay for the girl to drink. They ain't got nothing. They ain't, they ain't like you smoke. They ain't got shot for the girl to drink. They ain't got nothing. They ain't got nothing. And you know me, I'm walking through to,
Starting point is 00:50:08 to, to critique something. And I'm like, geez Louise, Papa Cheese, this is why I don't go to the awards though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:15 For real. But I was wondering if you got used to that. So you like me, you like, that shit is, that shit is out of your league. No,
Starting point is 00:50:21 I just super fake. I just do that shit just because like, you know what I mean? Keep your business. Right. You know what I mean your league. No, I just super fake. I just do that shit just because, like, you know what I mean? Keep your business. Right. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:50:29 It's part of the job. You know what I'm saying? Is there anybody who have a frontal on you and they came back and they tried to make it right? A couple people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You don't want to blow them up? You can't because no one listens to us. I don't want to do it. You ain't got to worry about that. I can't do it. I don't want to do it. You ain't got to worry about that. I can't do it. I don't want to do it. Just because there ain't nobody in my position right now.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You know what I mean? I'm super into it right now, bro. And it's like, I'd rather just keep it in like that. They know what I know. And I'm going to let that shit eat them up on the inside. You know what I mean? Right. What's the best thing the music industry have gave you so far?
Starting point is 00:51:09 It put me in a position where I can put other people in a position if they really want to be in a position to make some money, dog, and change their lives. Honorable. I've been in a position position like, just straight up to I'm straight, I'm good, I'm this, I'm that, but it ain't no feeling like being able to
Starting point is 00:51:31 change somebody else's life, dog. You know you're in a position to do that. All the person got to do is listen. Love that. Love that. That's hard. What's one thing that you did or was a part of that you feel like you could have did better or you would do over?
Starting point is 00:51:49 I ain't going to lie. The only thing like that, like from the past, I regret, wish I could do over, I wish I would have went to my prom back in the day. He said it hard. He said it hard. I ain't going to my prom either. I think I would have even went to high school. What prom are y'all talking about?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah. What prom are y'all talking about? He said it hard. He said it hard. I ain't going to no prom either. They got that we went to high school. What prom were y'all talking about? Yeah. What prom were y'all talking about? Junior high? Oh, high school? Yeah. I remember.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I was in jail. Y'all at junior high prom? I was asking. No, no. I had school dances in junior high. Yeah. I had junior high school. It wasn't a prom.
Starting point is 00:52:22 What high school you went to? You like Jamaican niggas, so you went to like 50 Cent High School, right? Nah, but it's crazy. Jackson? I went to August Martin for two years. Oh, they shoot people there, that's why. Nah, they lay somebody out. Like my freshman year.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, yeah, they shoot a lot of people there. They lay somebody out. It was a shooter school. You know, my mother, she wanted us to move to VA because she thought it would be safer. And I saw more coke and guns and everything in Virginia because that's where all the New York niggas was getting the guns from, you know what I'm saying? In the 90s, we was going to war.
Starting point is 00:52:53 She just didn't know she took you to the plug. She took me to the plug. I saw more violence and people out there in school with a nigga, two two days later he catching 30 years for murder where I can kill the piece of the delivery man Wow undercover cop because they got money in the state operations so you know bad news everybody's seen that oh yeah I've seen documentary I was there in I would send bad niggas to jail. It's crazy. Niggas want hell. Niggas want bad niggas. Niggas said he wish he would have went to his prom.
Starting point is 00:53:30 By the way, this is Mr. Lee OG? Mr. Lee OG. This is kind of good. We finally got some good weed. I'm going to be honest. You've been striking out for a long time. I'm going to be honest. Mr. Lee no hate.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Mr. Lee no hate. I'm going to be honest, man. I'm sorry. Hey, don't start talking, bro. We'll bring up your crack points. Now, who's your partner in the band? I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest, man. I'm sorry. Hey, don't start talking, bro. We'll bring up your crack. Now, who's your partner in Paper Route?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Because all my young boys from my hood, they like him because they say, y'all both got phantoms. Y'all both got, like, you know, the big nasty. What's his name again? Danny O. Yep. Danny O. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I'm a fat partner. He's like 400 pounds. Oh. That's crazy. He's a good nigga Danny O. Yep, Danny O. I'm a fat partner. He's like 400 pounds. Oh, that's crazy. He's a good nigga, though. Yeah, we twin. Right, right, right. That's what's up. So how did y'all start people?
Starting point is 00:54:16 Man. I freestyled in the car, riding around, doing what we do. Doing what we do and just Just turn it up just right pulled off but count no Freestyling back and forth Out win he win Let's go get something to eat. Let's go shopping roll over blind freestyle again. again, like. You know what I mean? Like, the hat started. Like, I was just the youngest out of all my partners.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It was me, him, and like six more of my other partners. And all of a sudden, all them niggas just started telling me to rap. Bro, you need to rap. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:57 Like, bro, you need to rap. Bro, you need to rap. I had lost a whole lot of money in like two weeks. Like, back to back, like shit just happened. I lump sum money, lost. Another lump sum money, lost. I'm like, bro, you could've spent that shit in.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I'm like, I couldn't do this shit. Right. When's the very moment you believed that this rap shit could happen? Like, what was like a sign? Like you do something out and what was it that I'm gonna keep 100 what made me feel like what made me know that I can do this shit will maybe like often a rap when I'm gonna do this shit one of my
Starting point is 00:55:34 partners from my hood he called me he was like oh I'm ready to go pull up on boost and smoke some weed with boostosie. He like, Boosie, ooh, such and such, such and such. This is Boosie Boosie? Yeah. This little Boosie, before he even went to jail for all that, you know what I'm saying? He like, oh. I finna go out at Boosie's such and such. We go over there.
Starting point is 00:55:55 We get to the room. Boosie like, he one of us, you know what I'm saying? Like, this his partner. Like, my boy, he go down to Baton Rouge. He got family down there, so he fucked with a heart. Like Boosha just showing his ass, he was like, nigga, I remember I first started coming down here,
Starting point is 00:56:11 I was getting like 1500 or something, like now I'm getting 15,000. He was like, nigga, I'm finna get that new Bentley when I get back to Baton Rouge. I'm finna this, I'm finna that. I was like, but we left, we in the parking lot, I told my partner, I was like, boy, I'm finna start rapping.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Right. How long ago was that? That shit was a long time ago. Right. That shit was on. He was no little before he went to jail. Right. Damn.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Damn. And you made it, man. You ever look at a man and be like, man, I did it? Or? I do that shit all the time. You better. You better, god damn. A lot. You know, I did it? I do that shit all the time. You better, you better, God damn it. A lot, you know what I'm saying? You got to, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:56:48 A lot of, I be, I just sit and just take out the shit and be like, damn. Right. And like I said, I wanted to do this shit. I knew I was going to do this shit. But I still, I really can't believe I'm doing this shit. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, bro, you just deal with the facts and scratch shit off the list, bro. Like, ain't nobody in history done this shit, what I'm saying? Because it's like, bro, you just deal with the facts and scratch shit out of the list, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Like, ain't nobody in history done this shit with what I'm doing. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, ain't nobody never got all the way to the point where I'm in it. And I never signed one deal with nobody. Never. And I want to hear some, I'm talking about never with nobody. Not one deal, no nothing. No nothing And up. I want to hear some, I'm talking about no. Nobody, not one deal, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:57:28 No nothing. Nobody. No, none of that. And you're up. And you're up. Nigga got on. Blue teeth. That is hard.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Hold on, let's make some noise for the blue teeth. That is hard. To match the smurf, nigga, I didn't even know you could do shit like that. I didn't even know that's legal. God damn it. Okay, what'd you say, Jaheim? Nah, I said he's on his Russell Simmons, man. Yeah, he's on his Russell Simmons.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I can't believe how smart he is. Like, because, you know, a lot of us, a lot of people, they just think we just hood niggas. I wish, I want people to handle that. I ain't gonna lie, that hood nigga shit. It's like, I'm super up, but to keep it 100, like, that shit done kind of, it's like, that shit done kind of took money from me, too, at the same time. But being
Starting point is 00:58:14 too hood? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because it keep a lot of bullshit attached to my name. Right. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's going to be for the rest of your career, bro. So, like, even though you're making a lot of money, it's like when you're making a lot of money, you know all the doors that open up
Starting point is 00:58:30 and all the extra shit you're supposed to be doing again. It's like when you got a lot of negativity, a lot of bullshit attached to your name, it's like that shit is running amok now. Trust me. What type of burden is that, though, man? Like, you know, you being able to secure the wins financially, but you know, the city that you love so much,
Starting point is 00:58:49 and the city that you represent, it's well documented, Memphis has so many financial problems, one of the cities with the least amount of jobs. I remember when I was going to Memphis back in the days, the Dirty Rollers, and all of that back in the days, the Dirty Rollers, all of that back in the days. I remember going through the projects, and some of the trims didn't have no doors on it.
Starting point is 00:59:12 This was back in the days, obviously. You know, it was still like one of the most, so what type of burden do you have on yourself having to deal with that? It's like when you're from that motherfucker and you're in a situation like me and you're in a position like me, it's just something you just got to deal with.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You know what I'm saying? Because it's like whether you know it or not, but it's people depending on you like a motherfucker and they ain't going to tell you. And like a lot of them don't even realize they people depending on you like a motherfucker and they ain't gonna tell you and like a lot of them don't even realize they're depending on you and they ain't gonna tell you that they're depending on you you know what i'm saying so it's like it's like in the same example like when you get somebody that's in a good position it's like you're like oh you take care of your mom and dad you don't take care of me like ain't nobody obligated to do nothing you ain't got
Starting point is 01:00:04 to take care of your mom and dad or look out for your brother or your sister and take care of kids or pay our bills this and that you ain't got to do that for nobody you ain't obligated to do it but it's certain people to just like me just like this just in me i just feel like there's just some that i got to do and that's why i always get blessed like a hundred times more you know what i'm saying because it's some i don't think about it just uh get blessed like a hundred times more. You know what I'm saying? Because it's some shit I don't think about. It's just like when a fly get in your face, you do that shit. You don't think. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:32 It's just an automatic thing you just do. Who's the person in your circle, in your family, that you'd be like, you got to slow down a little bit, man. You're getting too much money away. Hold up. What you mean? You know, like you said, you give back to a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:00:49 You give back to the community. You give back to people who might need it. If you have anybody in your circle that's been like that. Really tell you the truth, dog. It be more like my sisters and my auntie and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Cause it's like they know how I am with them. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:11 And the whole thing with them is like, they like, well, you been doing this shit so long, like since you was 16 and shit like that, like just taking care of real dear responsibilities. You know what I'm saying? And but leading by example for the other, know what I'm saying? And leading by example for the other, you know what I'm saying? Like, my little brothers and cousins and nieces, like, nieces, nephews and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So, like, they get it, but at the same time, they don't get it. But they do get it. It's like, I guess they just overprotective. You know what I'm saying? They just be like, you can't save the world. You can't do everything for everybody. You know what I'm saying? It be that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Who takes care of you, man, other than your sisters? Make sure that you live, man. I'm not talking about financial. Like my whole team. You know what I'm saying? Like my whole team. And especially like shit, like my girl, my mama, my daddy. Like all of them.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Like my family, like we super close. Like my cousins and shit, like they like my my mama, my daddy, like all of them, like my family, like we super close. Like my cousins and shit, like they like my brothers. You know what I'm saying? Like all my cousins, they like my brother. We grew up together, you know what I'm saying? And just stuck together. And I mean, like even my second cousin, like not even the ones, it's just first cousin,
Starting point is 01:02:20 like they like my brothers. Like even my partners, just like daddy, or the one we were just talking about no I mean you're like we are every day no I'm saying like for show every day like I I can say no second there I can damn that bitch you know I'm saying but me and Capone argue like that all the time that's how I really be argument but it don't be an argument yeah I know what you're saying I know what you mean you gonna say it's the army because you know that everybody look at it but so you and your nigga though is like it just
Starting point is 01:02:48 You know I'm saying You was talking about you What does she think about me that's you know, I got my Instagram man, you know a lot of rappers It get a meme and it's negative, you know, like what you're in front of only dog You gotta mean this like him his girl and the kids and they say look at dog he's had such a beautiful black family oh did you see that one is it it just doesn't deserve all the dread chance moment i want to count three one two three oh we know you out here living your best life. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Come on. We didn't know you out here living your all life. Oh, that's dope. Damn, man. You tried it in there, man. That is dope, my nigga. That is dope. You got to be careful, man. If you got to.
Starting point is 01:03:36 If you out here with a beautiful family, you're doing the right thing, they going to come for you, man. They been coming for me. That shit ain't about shit, man. Yeah, they going to come for you. It ain't about shit. But that's about shit man. Yeah, they gonna come. It ain't about shit. But that's dope man. Yeah, it was dope man, you know to see a black man with a beautiful black woman by his side.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I don't even know how that shit even got out there like they got out there but, like my girl, she don't like all this shit. You mean a girl from border industry or African? Nah, I got one in the middle of it. Middle of it, that's dope. God damn it, man. You know what I'm saying? The projects, I'll wait. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Like, they took out, she was with me. She been with me. God damn it, man. We out here all the way proud of you, my brother. God damn it, we out here proud of you, god damn it. Raise your glasses, god damn it. Raise your glasses, god damn it. Stop moving, baby.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Stop doing something, man. Because you know what the shit I like? I know this is a woman in here, but there's a t-shirt going around that says, black men don't cheat. And I think that people should keep rocking that t-shirt, goddamnit. Keep rocking that t-shirt. Because black men don't cheat.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Hold on, hold on, nigga. Hold on, nigga. We got one open. Yeah. Black men don't cheat, goddamnit. that t-shirt god damn it keep rocking that t-shirt we got a bigger bar species don't you know yeah for real for real god damn it she got awkward god damn it, she got awkward. God damn it, she got awkward. Come on, we gonna drink some of this motherfucking champagne. We gonna, yo motherfuckers, go up in the building, man. God damn it, man. Are you having fun though out here? I'm having fun with this shit, I can't lie. Okay. I'm having super fun with this shit.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Okay. What's the funnest part of hip hop? To you. The funnest part of this shit is traveling and just having fun doing this shit with your partners, your team, like the folks that you fuck with and you deal with on a day-to-day basis. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh.
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Starting point is 01:10:01 What you like more, performing or actually making the records to perform? What you get off more at? Damn, that's a hard decision right there. You can tell I'm an artist, huh? You know I'm an artist. You gotta add, or do you like dealing with the business side of it, because he's independent? Nah, nah, nah, nah. This is pure art. Yeah, we gotta keep it like this. you know I'm artist or do you like deal with the business side of it because he's independent no no no no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because you know some people like to probably like the polish the gun some people I think it
Starting point is 01:10:36 like it then I'm like probably say making this shit, because it's like art. You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is like art. It's like a pain. Like, you start off like, yeah. You know what I mean? Unless you write the rhymes without the beat.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I learned that from being in jail. I used to write rhymes with no beat. And I used to just want to you write the rhymes without the beat. I learned that from being a kid. I used to write rhymes with no beat. And I used to just want to see what... That's how I started out rapping. I started out writing. I started out writing with it. And like, after I did my first CD,
Starting point is 01:11:17 that, Welcome to Doppler, I started not writing because I felt like I was taking too... Oh, you one of them niggas that don't write? Yeah, I just go in there and just rap and come out with a... Yeah, I'm definitely not that smart. Like, y'all niggas that don't write is crazy. You got to think about it.
Starting point is 01:11:32 That shit ain't nothing but... You don't like what you said. I'll take that off. Punch me in right here. Do this right here. Punch me in right here. Like, this shit ain't... This shit is...
Starting point is 01:11:42 This shit ain't hard. It's 2018. See, I'm 41 years old. I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm 41. And the reason why I can't write without writing is because, remember, we used to perform on the, oh, I sound like a mother, a fuckin' old fuckin' Tape? The H, the two inch rail.
Starting point is 01:12:01 So the thing was, you couldn't punch in. And you couldn't punch in, so I had to write, the Super Thug, you know Super Thug was recorded with one take? What, what, what, what? That shit was recorded one take. That record I got, one take, because that's how I was used to recording from the war report.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You know what I'm saying? So, I'm sorry, that shit is just. What shit was off when you made that? What you was drinking when you made that? No, I was sober as shit. Yeah, I so much shit yeah I didn't drink I didn't drink I just thought in fact in my first album I said I don't even drink like that I sell crack because when you sell crack you can't be outside drinking yes you know so I'm gonna be sleeping so hard I stopped selling crack.
Starting point is 01:12:45 So then that's when I started drinking. But remember, I told you, my first album, I was still selling crack. Until it was my solo album. And then I said, what? You could get $750,000 from these people? I didn't know that. I thought, you know, I thought I was just giving away shit. Because shit was different back then.
Starting point is 01:13:04 See, the thing is, you've got to identify with your fans right now. You could drop something, and a dude from motherfucking Brooklyn is going to say, yo, my dude, I love that. We didn't have that back then, you know what I'm saying? Sorry to sound like the old nigga, but I'm just giving you this game. So back then, I remember having to go to London for people from London to hear your shit. Like, we didn't have email, you know? We didn't have that, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:29 right now, this shit is so beautiful, you can drop an album tonight and motherfuckers in Japan will be banging to it at the same time a motherfucking Dade County is banging to it at the same time. Doesn't matter what time frame. So I enjoyed this new generation.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I think that you guys should continue to take advantage of it because Leo Cole said something on the same show one time. He said, this is the best time to be in the music industry because you can do whatever and the big cause used to be
Starting point is 01:14:02 the marketing and the CDs and all that. He said, that doesn't exist. You could throw out something that doesn't work. Who gives a fuck? Make another one and throw it out. There's no middle. And I said,
Starting point is 01:14:13 holy moly, guacamole. And you guys are taking full advantage of that, man. It's direct to consumer. And you, and, and so you are,
Starting point is 01:14:21 you are enjoying yourself. You are living the, yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Have you, have you, have you been a member of the Soho house yet? And so you are enjoying yourself. You all live in the... Yes, sir. Okay, okay. Have you been a member of the Soho House yet? This is no respect.
Starting point is 01:14:37 This is a private club with just niggas with money and shit, right? And you become a member, and then you start to learn how to, like, you know, drink your drink like this, a little pinky out. It's okay, but you got to become a member of so hot just to keep your mom saying okay I got you this nigga looking at me like price tag on that membership? I don't know. Come on, give us a round of applause. I don't remember, my brother. I'm going to be honest. I'm just saying, it's a great thing.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Next time you go to L.A., you go to Miami, you go. It's a great thing. And you just be around people just with bread. And you just see people. It's good. It's good. Yeah. You know what a dude told me?
Starting point is 01:15:21 He said, it's good to be the brokest guy in the room. You want to be the brokest person in the room. You want to be the brokest person in the room because you want to be around all the motherfuckers that's just rich. You're around money for sure. Oh, yeah. Of who you are. That's how I came up.
Starting point is 01:15:33 You got to be around niggas richer than you. That's how I came up. So, you came through. What is your ultimate goal? Like, if this is your perfect life, you know how a person would be like, yo, in a perfect life, in a perfect world, what would your perfect world be right now?
Starting point is 01:16:03 Do everything I'm doing right now like time 10. Instead of having Platinum and Gold singles. You know what I mean? I geek these numbers up a little bit more and have Platinum and Gold albums. Sign more artists. Do the same thing. Platinum and Gold artists. And you never have to do a deal ever.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You still don't want to do a deal with him. You just want to keep yourself, you just want to keep your shit together. I respect that. I respect that. I don't know, it's set up. It's how it's set up. Why?
Starting point is 01:16:35 It's set up for me to do it, so shit. He's already whipping that way. How'd you, how'd you make up with OT Genesis? That's my boy. Okay. Oh. He sent me that song, Cut It. I sent it right back to him.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Alright. You know what I'm saying? Like I fucked with him. He got good energy. He hard to fuck with his music. Alright. Which made it happen. Now, um, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Clap. Are we supposed to make some noise for that? I still ain't got my plaque, man. I still ain't got my plaque, man. Conglomerate. Conglomerate. I still ain't got my plaque, man. Make sure you get it.
Starting point is 01:17:15 I wasn't aware. My engineer on my ass. Everybody on my ass. Niggas need their plaques, man. I'm going to be honest, man. You need their plaques. Sha, you got another one? It's a beautiful plaque, too.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Damn, nigga. I thought it was double plaque, man. I thought it was double plaque, man. You need they plaques. Shai, you got a little one? It's a beautiful plaques. Damn, nigga. Don't rub it. I thought you were double-plating me. I thought you were double-plating me. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I thought you were double-plating me.
Starting point is 01:17:33 What's your favorite studio session you've ever had to this day? Or at least one of your favorite. With the artist. Oh, it doesn't matter. Your favorite. Whatever. your favorite with the artists oh it doesn't matter what your favorite whatever another heart still says me highway to be fun.
Starting point is 01:18:10 We had fun the night I got Glock that, when I first got Glock that Benz. I don't know, it be different ones. You know what I mean? Especially around that time, like when you finally know and you done and got the final track listening going over all the songs You can agree to put out on the album Just a vibing studio
Starting point is 01:18:34 She's the least Papa cheese So what the hell is that? You know super duck like I, I, cause I knew, cause no one knew who Pharrell was. But I, I don't wanna say it like I'm a genius, but I knew who he was. When no one knew who he was, like I knew, does that, does that make sense?
Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah. Like, you know, I knew he was gonna be who he was to this day. I looked at this nigga, he's weird. That's dope. As a hood nigga, you know, I had, i had like you know this is baggy jean era so i had like size fucking 49 jeans on you know what i'm saying like i had that on and he had on size 12 and i said this is gonna work perfect it was the exact opposite of me i said
Starting point is 01:19:22 this is gonna work you know what i mean but a lot of people didn't, I brung Pharrell to everybody during that time. Real hard as fuck. Yo, people told me his clothes was too tight. People, like I was bringing Pharrell, like you have a, I don't want to describe it like that. I mean, something went weird in my mind. Let me not say that. But, so I was bringing Pharrell like, yo, this is the next guy. People were like,
Starting point is 01:19:47 they were waiting for him to leave the room and people were like, come on, Nori. Come on, Nori. It took him a while. I'm not going to lie. I fucked up one time. Kanye waited for me two hours outside a studio
Starting point is 01:20:04 session in LA. This is before Kanye was anybody. And I forget who else from Rockefeller was like, yo, he's going to play you some shit. And I waited out there and I was just like the homie. I had 30 niggas with me because, you know, LA was getting real at this time. And Kanye finally walked into the session. He said, I got all this heat for y'all, and you gonna make me wait? And then he ducked, he said, I know you have a fucking,
Starting point is 01:20:27 you know what I'm saying? I said, I like you, man! Cause he ducked immediately as soon as he said it, and we made him wait for two hours, and we did not like anything he played that night. I'm not gonna lie to you. That's why I don't got a Kanye beat, I'm sorry. I never told this story before, definitely. I told the story off the record, but it's a dope story. So
Starting point is 01:20:54 Nah, I ain't gonna lie. He was his I call him on an off night I caught him on a horse night like you know when you you know me like they got out there wait You want to show nigga respect? So you want to show me my mouth? Yeah, I got a lot something came out Now he was finding himself at the time like, you know, I mean like this is before I don't think nobody Oh from Rockapilla for the border beat from him at the top But like Swiss when I bought a beat from Swiss, sorry, no one from Rough Riders had bought a beat from them. I was the first nigga to buy a beat from Swiss.
Starting point is 01:21:31 That's my brother. Speaking of that, they played a band from TV the whole night for BET and Raw. Oh yeah? That's why everybody did the site for them. You ain't been paying them? Oh no, I'm getting a check. God damn it, I'm getting a check. God damn it, I'm getting a check.
Starting point is 01:21:47 God damn it. I had no idea, I was just coming to show love. I had no idea. Man from TV, I thought that's why you were here. Oh no, I came and then I knew I had this man right here to the right of me and you know what, I got the fuck up out of there. I said they ain't had no alcohol,
Starting point is 01:22:06 I spoke to a couple of people I didn't really like, and you know, I smiled in front of them, and I said I'm getting the foot of the duck up out of here. I'm gonna go to my zone, I'll be in my world, when I'm in my world, I'm the king of my world, and sometimes it's just cool for that. Like sometimes you don't have to interact with other people's worlds.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Sometimes I just feel like that like ah You ever see the people that just follow nobody on Instagram Like they're the most amazing as craziest people Sometimes you gotta follow other people see the other people world for saying your own motherfuckers on and that's what I'm motherfucking like to do So I'll share world with someone here and there but then I get the fuck up out of there. How you feel about that? Good sector. I don't follow nobody on Instagram. You don't follow nobody?
Starting point is 01:22:52 There you go. There you go. I just don't. Because you don't want to. That's why I got all this blue shit going on. Everybody look like they got the same mom and dad. That's right. Everybody got on the same thing, same jewelry, same pieces, same everything. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:07 Like I got all that shit, and I'm spending too much money on all that shit. All right. Nice blue everything, so. You got the gray wood Cartier's on. I didn't see those. I forgot I had that going on. You know I'm a Cartier nigga.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I know what's going on. This nigga got the gray woods on. Let's make some noise for him. You know I'm a Cartier nigga, I know what's going on. This nigga got the gray woods on. Let's make some noise for him. I'm trying to debate who had the ill-loved Cartiers. Is it him or E-40? Because E-40 had the red woods, you remember those? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Him or E-40? I can't, I don't, who? Yeah, who you got? Ooh, E-40, that's a fact. That's a fact, that's a fact. So, I see you, you designed it out a lot. Is that your wave? I just been on this shit since I was young.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Like, when I used to, about ninth grade, tenth grade, shit like that. I used to always catch the Greyhound, go up to Chicago, go shopping. Come back to Memphis just to go to school, just to kill it, you know what I'm saying? Like just to go shopping, I've always been on this shit. Now, did Kanye try to offer you a magma hat? Who? Kanye. Try to give you a Make America Great hat. A magma hat? If Kanye gave you a Make America Great hat. A man hat? A man hat.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Would you, if Kanye give you a beat right now, and he said, I'm gonna give you a magna hat. Mega, man. You know, nigga know what I mean. What position does you take in life with that? I give Kanye a paper route chain tell him to get his life together. Get his goddamn life together.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Now, now, Drink Chance, we don't get political. Yeah, we do. Nah, this my boy, shout out to Kanye. Nah, big him up, big him up. But I can't wear that hat, though. I can't wear that hat, though, right? Like, what? I shot a whole video with Uncle Snoop, man. I can't wear that hat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Yep, that shit too. But how does it feel to see a black man? And I think he's trolling to tell you the truth who can't yeah I don't think he at first I thought what well he said I go for his the new design is kind of better like he designed it it was kind of hard he designed his own yeah that's my word yeah he designed his own the one he's wearing yeah the one he's wearing is easy you redesigned that he redesigned it he said it the first post he put up and said he said yo look i redesigned it man yes super worse it's super easy you think he's trolling i think he's trolling i don't think he's trolling? I think he's trolling. I don't think he really believes Donald Trump is the shit.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I don't think at this point he's trolling, man. What you think? I'm an easy fan. Well, why would he be playing like that? He's not playing no more, man. Because he's a troll. He actually said, I'm a bigger troll than 50 Cent and 6ix9ine. He actually said that.
Starting point is 01:26:17 That's quoting. Where did he say that? He says that. Kanye, you go online and put it up. That's the speech on Saturday Night Live. It doesn't look like I'm a troll. Kanye't even know what he doing man he know I wouldn't meaning meaning what you think like the trolling oh you know he doing you know he's doing believe me but you know what I thought he was trying to
Starting point is 01:26:40 know what he thought he was trying to prove that the same people who who got mad at him when he said Bush don't care about black people. He fucked that up No, no But I just took that away when when he went pro-trump the same people that hated him on that off all the white people They all started loving him. So I thought he was trying to prove a point of the hypocrisy Thank you. I don't think is that you thinking too hard. That's too deep? Yeah. You're thinking too hard.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Yeah. Just Kanye know what he doing. He just- He just leave it at that. He trying to be the talk of the town. Like, as long as you keep talking about him, he don't care. All I'm gonna say is, Kanye know what he doing. He know what he doing. I feel like he know something we don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:20 It's not cool though, man. Like, you know what that hat represent? That's like that guy, man. Put it on straight. Fuck Trump. We all do. We all do. Is he like the new Michael Jackson? Remember, Michael Jackson could be accused of anything, but we still run. Michael Jackson never put nothing on that didn't bring anything. to anything but we still run we still yes we're not in the airport and I see a white person with that hat on I actually move on the the other side. I don't even want to be near them. That's real.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Take America back to the time where they put the German shepherds in the war. That hat is a modern day white hood, man. That's what it feels like. Ancestors on our grandparents. Great grandparents. It's just, it's really sad to me
Starting point is 01:28:22 because, you know, Kanye come from a family of black scholars. you know, Kanye come from a family of black scholars. You know, he come from a family where you know what's up. But they trying to make it seem like we in the modern day. They trying to make it seem like 2018 and all that shit is important right now. And it's like history is just erasing it. Like, I don't think so much about it. So, like, they're trying to make it seem like y'all care too much about the history. Yeah, but, I mean, that's what they want to do is, you know, the racists, they want to take your history from you.
Starting point is 01:28:56 You know, they want to make you forget about, you know, the times back in the day that you had to fight, and they want to make it cool for the Ku Klux Klan to walk through certain cities with their tiki torches and whatnot, just like they don't have one in White River. And I don't mean that they're Klan. I'm just wanting for them to walk through the White River, which is a left-back city. Or a South Side city. Or a Carroll city.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Now, how's that in Memphis? Because there's a lot of white people in Memphis. Do y'all have a racism level four out there? Damn, no. It's more, it's like, you're just used to this shit down there. You know what I'm saying? But you go to places like Chicago, LA, and like all that shit, like, you see it's like, like, that's when you start seeing, like, like them, like home, you know
Starting point is 01:29:53 what I mean? In Memphis, like, that shit different, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, they cool with it everywhere else. It's like, you see the, the, the different race relationships more and all that shit, it's like, it's probably, now that shit is like, it's probably, it's probably like just now getting like that at home. Ain't Martin Luther King from Memphis? Nah, he from Birmingham. Birmingham, that's right. He got killed in Memphis though.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Yeah, that's what I mean, there you go, there you go. So that guy, that guy, that had to feel weird. Yeah, he got killed in Memphis. Bruh. That's crazy. Yeah, he got killed in Memphis. Bro. That's crazy. No, that's crazy. And the times is obviously better now. Yeah, but that shit still crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:34 No, get out of here. I'm not down on this one. You know, they just elected the guy, Capitano, man. We just watched the... Who's Capitano? Who that? The green quarter train car. What? We just watched the trial where the woman said that he raped her. We got some cheat on us and whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Oh, that's the dude, his name start with a V? Nah, Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh? Yeah. I ain't hear this nigga. So, you know, with him getting into the Supreme Court, it's going to be a lot of, a lot more fuckery, like, they're going to try to, you know, abolish a lot of women's rights and things like that.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Like, you know, Trump, he ain't got in the office and he's going to set a whole chain of events that's going to be very difficult for us to recover from, you know, for decades. You know, Trump's going gonna be out of the office, like, I truly believe in my heart, like, after this next election. He's gone? We wanna get him out of here. And we played with it last time.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Well, who's to replace him then? Who do we have? I mean, we still- Will Smith? Do we gotta throw this rumor out there that Will Smith is gonna really run? And Dave Chappelle, the, did you see that? I think that'll be hard- That'll be hard, I'm voting for Will Smith. I'm over will Smith and I'll make it other motherfuckers over I know Oprah, what did Oprah do to you, nigga? What's going on? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:05 What happened? Tell me. I love Oprah, but no. We can't elect somebody based on power pattern. Why not? That's what the fuck they just did. And the one we asked. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:19 In trouble. Let's do tip attack, nigga, with the president. We gotta get somebody. That's gang bang for the president, nigga. Put Will Smith on that motherfucker. Will Smith for the people, nigga. He just jumped in the Grand Canyon. I saw it myself.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Nigga jumped in the Grand Canyon. That ain't no black people shit. That's a real, you know, he on the other side. So we got to bribe Will Smith, goddammit. He jumped in the Grand Canyon, goddam the other side. So we got to bribe a Will Smith, god damn it. He jumping in Grand Canyons, god damn it. Damn. Would you ever do that?
Starting point is 01:32:50 Well, hell no, nigga. I'm black black. Yeah, you know, he ain't been having his money so long. Yeah, yeah, he was doing that paper shit. Yeah, he was, you know. He was happy about doing that too. No, that's dope. But he's saying he's having a party 365 days
Starting point is 01:33:08 This whole year what he turned 50. So every day he's having a party and he has a whole crew with him And they're gonna follow And then should a crew say like I mean, it's not a party like we party like he He's smoking a bud and drinking No party like we party like he he smoking no bud and drinking or none of that no no what was the what was the wildest club in memphis that you had to go through is the club that you performed with uh oj what was it like a staple of the day that you had to go through what you mean like like for us we had the tunnel so for us us, if you was a New York artist, you had to go and perform at the tunnel and get your props.
Starting point is 01:33:50 And if you didn't do that, then you wasn't even considered like a New York artist. What was that for Memphis? Oh. It was probably Envy and Level 2 back then. Club Envy and Level 2. Think I been to Club Envy. I don't remember Level 2, but yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Now, you was gonna say something else or no? You good? Nah. Okay. Now, Role Model, that's the last album you just put out. Yeah. September. Yeah. Correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:40 So, how does it feel the album heart crazy is like one of my favorite ones to the day like a super hard okay so the air horn got you I Now I notice you're a backwards guy. Yeah. You don't smoke though? No, I smoke backwards or on some rock like raw papers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Now is that lean in there? Because I've never really kind of seen lean. Is that lean? God damn, let's make some noise if you got that. Tell us what lean is. Can you describe it to a nigga? I'm an old nigga from New York. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I drink all the weed. I drink all the weed. I drink all the weed. I drink all the weed. I drink all the weed. I drink all the weed. I drink you got time. Tell us what lean is. Can you describe it to a nigga? I'm an old nigga from New York. I don't know, you know, I drink all English. I used to drink all English. What is lean?
Starting point is 01:35:36 Prescription, cough syrup. Prescription, cough syrup. Okay. And what does it do? Like when you drink it? It just tastes good. It just what? It tastes good. It tastes good.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Okay. I'm going to be honest. I was on a tour with 8Ball and MJG in Japan. This time Japan had no weed. Right? So they didn't call it lean. They called it sir. Sir.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Yeah, they called it Sir. So, right, the whole time, it was, I was actually, it wasn't a Capone or Noriega tour. It was a Nori tour with Capone on there. But we were on the eight ball NJG. This is fucking crazy. And the crazy shit was they kept offering me, and I didn't hit it. I just became a drunk man that time. But on the plane coming back from Japan,
Starting point is 01:36:27 we had to do 11 hours, right? 11 hours and it was me, Capone, and them two in first class. And what's the big one, I forgot his name? Ball. Ball, Ball stood there. So the white lady came up to us three and was like, listen, I've never seen this before in my life.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And we're like, what? He never moved. 11 hours. 11 hours. He stood there in one position. She said, I've never seen this. He didn't cough. He didn't move.
Starting point is 01:36:57 He didn't sneeze. He didn't scratch. She said, is he OK? And I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, shit didn't cough. He didn't move. He didn't sneeze.
Starting point is 01:37:05 He didn't scratch. She said, is he okay? And I was like, oh, shit. So, that was the first time. I'm talking about, that's how I know Memphis. Like, I know all the towns, Plain, Lean, and the server. Memphis has been doing that shit a long time. Memphis has been doing it. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Like, this is like, I'm talking about, I'm talking about 19, I'm talking about 2000, maybe 99? I'm talking about that's how old this story is. I was talking about that. You gotta think about it. Trump was rude era, man. Like, that's what the music was about. A-Ball and MJG, they came up with Swire House, Swire House out of Texas. Yeah, Swire House, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Swire House. Wow. Tony Trapper. Dra, Swire House, yeah. Wow. Tony Trapper, Draper. Draper, yeah. Draper, yeah. Draper, yeah. Well, man, Dolph, man, you got something else? I'm just gonna...
Starting point is 01:37:52 Man. I love Memphis, though, man. Yeah, I love Memphis, too, man. You gotta invite us to one of your points. We're gonna do drink champs out there, too. We're gonna come out there, you know what I mean? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:38:00 You're gonna invite us, right? Nigga, you ain't act like you're gonna invite us, nigga. Come on, this is your spot. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. You gotta invite us to one of your points. We're gonna do drink champs out there too. We're gonna come out there, you know what I mean? Yeah. Right, you're gonna invite us, right? Nigga, you ain't act like you're gonna invite us, nigga.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Come on, invite us, nigga. I got when you get there, you gonna have the best weed you ever had in your life. Weed you ain't even ever smoked in California. And you still live in Memphis? No, I still got a spot in Memphis, though. Okay, cool, cool. But you had to get a spot somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Yeah. That's a beautiful thing, my nigga. That's a beautiful thing because you know why? You know why? We do a history of our rappers, our rappers are starting to die in our own city. So which means, fuck with our city, love your city. Yeah, she ain't got nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Yeah, no, no, no, but be careful, but be careful because most of the hate in the world comes from people that's just like you, so just be careful. When you look at Chanks,
Starting point is 01:38:50 it happened to him, Freaky Todd, a lot of guys that it happens in their own city, so I'm not saying love your city, love your city,
Starting point is 01:39:01 respect it, but also be aware that, you know, it's good to be outside, it's good aware that you know it's good to be outside it's good to be outside it's gonna be other places but you always check in it's all good you know Dolph man I just want to tell you thank you man I want to tell you congratulations on what you're doing on what you do and
Starting point is 01:39:15 continue to do what you do man keep up before you get out of here I want to ask this one question because I've heard do you think the word black ball or being black ball, do you think that's real? Is that a myth, or is that actual fact, people actually do that? I don't know. That shit ain't got nothing to do with me, though. God damn it. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:39:38 God, that's the way you end it. That's the way you end it. God damn it. You're going to do a drive and a couple of pictures, and it'll be good. My nigga. Cheese the wings, Papa Cheese. Let's do it! Now you go do a job and come to pictures and it'll be good. My nigga. Cheese the wings, Papa Cheese. Let's do it. Alright, bye.
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