Drink Champs - Episode 150 w/ OT Genesis

Episode Date: December 7, 2018

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs sit down and chop it up with Long Beach hit creator OT Genesis. They talk about OT's beginnings, near death experiences, relationship with Busta Rhymes and much more. Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it's Drink Champs' motherfucking happy hour. Make some noise! Now, when it comes to the new generation, the new generation and people's style of hustling, this man that we have in front of us is relentless. He's out there throwing up them numbers every time he's dropping a single.

They're hitting these charts. He's out here living his best life. Came through today, Versace down and on time. Very important. Every time I see this man, he's out there smiling, living his motherfucking best life, doing what the fuck he got to do. He got the illest crip walk in the game as well. As well.

He is a guy that's out here doing it, and I'm proud that he's representing this new era of hip-hop. This is O.T. motherfucking Genesis. Make some noise! Now, O.T., what's interesting about you is you're actually from Long Beach. That's right. Now, Long Beach is the city of Crips, right? Y'all don't even, you ain't even seen Red. Ain't no Bloods in Long Beach.

No Bloods? It's the only city in California with only Crips. Wow. Wow, so how is that? Shit lit. Right. But it's, you know, this is the way a nigga grow up. Like, you know this is how this is waiting to grow up like you know I'm saying so that's all I think no right yeah I'm so cup suck I

come over and you know beefy you know it's beef here and there you know I'm actually like that but that's just the way that she go but the thing about it is when we hear about LA life we always always think of Bloods and Crips. Right. So that's a very unique situation where, because I imagine if you were gangbanging, you always had beef with other Crips. Right. Especially in Long Beach. Right.

But that's what a lot of people don't know, like, from different areas, that it's a whole lot of Bloods, that beef with Bloods, and a whole lot of Crips. Wow. We definitely didn't know that. Yeah. You know what I mean? So anything could start that. Yeah, you know what I mean? So, anything could start that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It could be, oh, it don't even gotta be you.

You could just be chillin' and it could be one of your little homies somewhere. They probably at the downtown or they at the movie theater or something, they get into one of them and they start knockin' on them and that just starts some whole other shit. You know what I'm saying? So, but more, more than likely it's Crips that beat for them and that just starts some whole other shit. You know what I'm saying? So, but more.

Like, more than likely it's Crips and B-Foam Crips and Crips and B-Foam Crips. It's more Crips and B-Foam Crips than Crips and B-Foam Blood. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. And don't forget the essays, either. I hate for the essays. Well, now, there's essays in Long Beach.

Yeah. There's essays in Long Beach, right? But they Crips, too. There's Asian gangs out there, too, like Crips. Yeah, but, yeah, the Asian boy, Asian boy But they Crips, too. There's Asian gangs out there, too, like Crips. Yeah, but... Yeah, Asian boy Crips. But, um... Yeah.

Salute, man. We salute to you tonight, man. This is your career, your struggle, your motherfucking story, man. We all salute. That's what we do. We give people their flowers where they can smell them,

their thoughts where they can tell them, and their drinks where they can drink them. You understand what I'm saying? Because people want to wait until they give people, you know, until they dare to give people props. This is what our show is about. So, all right, boom.

And you are from Belize? Belize. You're from Belize. You and Sean went to school together? No. No, I'm not doing what you're doing. I'm supposed to do a show in Belize soon. Get out of here.

Yeah, I was talking about it. I know Sean hit me up or whatever, but I know I was on my own. I'm just trying to plant something real, real, real dope, like, some, like, major, major, major shit, like, I ain't even trying to do, like, major shit. How does a person from Belize get to Long Beach, though? You know what I'm saying? Right. So, it's like, but it's my, my, my, my mother and father, my mother and father. Both Belize?

Both Belize, yeah. Oh, wow. So, they came here to make shit better for me, like, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that, so, yeah. Mm-hmm. So, was you born in Belizean? They both Belizean, yeah. So they came here to make shit better for me, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So, yeah. So, was you born in Belize? No, here. Oh, you born here.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So Trump can't fuck with you. Trump, you good. Trump can't fuck with you. No, he ain't fucking with me. We living in the fucked up times though, right? Are we?

On one hand, we getting money. Yeah. But on another hand, it's like Jesus we still like crazy this shit is real so I now I want you to describe your beginning coming up you ain't got the heart of Dharma well you would leave it on the table got that in a hater. Okay, okay, okay. God damn, you can leave it on there. Come on, baby. Come on. The chairman is good. He understands niggas want to hang on to shit. You know, we got, oh, damn, we don't got no Deleon on there?

Damn. Damn, we slipping. Right there, right there. Okay, we got the Deleon. But listen, we don't know when this episode is coming out. We personally, good people at Sir Rock said, we have a gift OT Genesis. This is not out yet. By the time this episode comes out. It's an exclusion. But we want to let niggas know, you had this a long time ago. Right, Genesis. This is not out yet. By the time this episode comes out.

But we want to let niggas know you had this a long time ago. Right, right. This is your. I like to be one of them niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had one before you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So describe, you know, your start. Like, you know, your start. How did this start for you? Oh, man. First, I started off like, really like, I like started off like really like I like started off this shit like a high school shit like that you know me trying to be the trying to be like a fly nigga and try to be just throw this out there was it Long Beach High? Yeah that was a Long Beach, that was Long Beach, Jordan yeah.

That's the same as where Snoop went? You went to that school? Uh huh, no Snoop went to Poly. Yeah I went to Jordan, I went to Jordan that's like That's my cousin, she teaches in one of them schools out there. Yeah, that's in the north and east. So niggas started off like doing like little talent shows and little shit like that or whatever. But always knew... And I was always a nigga who like...

I like attention. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm one of them like... I was always like... You know that thirsty ass nigga Like you see a bitch riding by And like you gotta turn the music up You gotta figure out

What song you finna play Before you pull up on her Like you know what I'm saying I'm like one of them I'm always like Attention to shit like that So like I do shows and shit And be performing

And I be like outperforming everybody Everybody like Who the fuck is this nigga You know what I'm saying But it was just It was just me You know what I mean So I started off with just, it was just me, you know what I mean? So I started off with that

and like selling little tickets for like $10. Some niggas, niggas was coming to my show so I had to come grab a little, you know what I mean, a little bread, whatever,

put my own bread up, shit like that. Then I was like, fuck it, I think I got it. I think, you know when you know you got it? I'm like,

I think I got it, but I'm going to pop off but I just don't know when. You know what I'm saying? I'm going but I'm going to pop off, but I just don't know when. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to get real lit on these, but I just don't know when. So, what was it,

2000, I was running around in the clubs. I was trying to do like, I had like my own strategic plan to run around clubs. I know I ain't like really had no buzz like that, but I'm like,

you know what, I'm just going, I had a song that was hot in LA. It's called Touchdown at the time. I'm going to run around all these fucking clubs. Yeah, I'm going to run around all the clubs in LA. I called Touchdown at the time I'm gonna run around all these fucking clubs Yeah, I'm gonna run around all the clubs in LA I'm just gonna run around clubs, perform for free

Like, I'm going in there, perform for free Tell the DJ, like, niggas knew my shit was lit But I just make sure, like, I wait till, like They got, like, the hottest party And I'm pulling up, telling the DJ, like Run, instead of you playing it You need to perform it live, like, you know what I'm saying? So ain't nobody be going crazy and shit like that.

Oh, no. That's a little fast forward. Before that, before the touchdown, I did a deal with Fifth. That's before that. And I did a deal with Fifth, and he signed me to a single deal. So, a nigga called me, or whatever.

It was funny. He called me or whatever. He was like, because I was helping my homeboy move and shit. I was helping my homeboy move. But how did you initially meet him? He's just talking about you.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. So I shot like a little, I shot like a little video, like a little viral video on YouTube or whatever. And I guess somebody brought it to his attention,

but it was a song, it was a song that I had that was popping in L.A. It was called Jackie Chan at the time, and it was a nigga from New York. I can't even remember the nigga's name, but I guess he let Fifth know, you know what I'm saying, at the time. Or he let, who was my manager at the time, Dino, he let him know, and then Fifth let him hear it,

and then Fifth was like, okay, let me see. So he pulled it up on youtube and see me and like just seeing a whole bunch of niggas in the background he's like on that grimy shit right you know what i'm saying so then um my phone died this day and as my my phone died this day um i'm helping my homeboy move and shit like you know he got to move to another spot so i'm helping him shit i got shit in the back. I'm talking about, I'm talking about. You're a good nigga. I said, I've never helped my homeboy. I've never.

Like, you said it twice. It was hurting me. I was like, I ain't gonna lie. I be acting sick. When a nigga's at a movie, he help me not. I'm sick. I'm not gonna lie. You said it twice.

It was hurting me. I had to just admit my guilt. I'm sorry. You can help me your homeboy. No, I'm just saying. I used to fuck bitches at his house. I'd be a cold nigga. You'd be obligated.

Yeah, I'd be a cold nigga to leave a nigga by himself. Move it, shit. So I was helping him move and shit like that. And niggas was trying to, they blew up his phone. And so I answered his phone, he was like, yo, it was some fast-talking nigga. Yo, what about somebody want to talk to you, man? Blah, blah, blah about your record, man.

That person is 50 Cent. Hold on, hold on one second. I'm like, what? So nigga get back on the phone. He's like, yo, there's some lady get on the phone. She's like, 50 will be on the line right now. What the fuck? It sound like some men in black shit.

So I'm like, what the fuck is this? So then he get on the phone. Like, what up, nigga? I'm like, I'm on my homie phone. You know what I he get on the phone like, what up, nigga? I'm like, I'm on my homie phone. You know what I'm saying? He like, nah,

I know you think it ain't me, da, da, da, da, da. So we just chopping it up, chopping it up, chopping it up. He was telling me how he fuck with it.

He was like, you about to go around your hood telling everybody you got a deal and you rich, huh? And he was laughing about it and shit like that. And so then,

I met up with him, ran around, did like this Mountain Dew tour, just fucked around, man, on some lit shit, man. And it was dope. But I didn't realize at the time, like, I had a single deal. You know what I mean? So that was a single.

I thought, like, you know, I don't know this shit. I'm like, oh, this is one song? You know what I'm saying? So I was like, okay, cool. Whatever. So we did that. Stayed in touch with him. That always been cool. Then I just got back to the grind, grind, grind, grind. Whatever. So we did that. Stayed in touch with him. That always been cool.

Then I just got back to the grind, grind, grind, grind. Now, boom, fast forward. Boom. Now I'm in the clubs running around, running around, running around. Start performing. Then I run into Bus. You know what I'm saying? In one of the clubs.

It was a playhouse in L.A. Boom. He's like, yo, what's up? We chopped it up. Boom. I seen him at the studio. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Got this deal with Atlantic.

Cool. All right. Boom. But you got the deal with Atlantic or he had the deal? Yeah, up. Boom. I seen him at the studio. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Got this deal with Atlantic. Cool. All right. Boom. But you got the deal with Atlantic or he had the deal? Yeah, him. Okay. We both went to go, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Do the thing thing. So now, check this shit out. All right. So we do the deal at Atlantic. It's like, this is what niggas don't know this. So it's like, I may be signed to Atlantic for about almost a year at this moment. I never put out not one song, right? Not one song.

So my A&R called me like, yo, he called me in like late September. He was like, yo, just talking some weird stuff. I'm like, what you saying? So then my manager was like, he basically saying that the label gonna drop you. You know what I mean?

They gonna drop you. You know what I'm saying? And more than likely, December, you know what I mean, whatever, January, they coming,

you know, coming new, whatever. So they'll drop you. I'm like, damn. They're like, yeah,

you haven't put out no music, you haven't did da-da-da-da. I'm over here sitting right here like, what the fuck? So I'm over here yeah, you haven't put out no music you haven't did that I'm over here sitting right here like what the fuck so I'm Over here blaming you're sitting here blaming everybody bus. I'm blaming anybody I mean, I need some music out like let me fuck you. Let's just put some music out. So I shoot a video

Shoot a video to a song. That's not a local. It's not Coco. Oh, so I shoot a video. I shoot the video I'm like damn this shit hard had an ice cream truck shoot the video. I'm like, damn, this shit hard. I had an ice cream truck and bitches. I'm like, this is my first big video. This shit lit. I shoot the video. The video didn't come out the way I wanted it to come out. I'm like, what the fuck?

But the editor wasn't there. The editor was trash. You know what I mean? And that's when I really start noticing, oh, damn, that editor really makes a video. A video. You know what I mean? I'm picking up this shit.

I'm like, wow. Like, what happened to the scene? What happened to the other scene? What happened? I'm saying all kinds of shit. You know what I mean? Why it sound like this? But this is through the Atlantic budget, though?

They paying for it, though. Yeah. Okay. So, cool. Now, watch this. No, it wasn't the Atlantic budget. It was busted at the time. It wasn't the Atlantic budget.

I'm not sure if it was because they wasn't fucking with me. So now I'm like, I see the video. I'm like, the video didn't come out how I want it to come out. I did Coco like two weeks before, right? Woke up in the morning. Before the video that you didn't want to come out. Before the video that I didn't want to come out. I'm like, okay. So the video came you didn't want to come out. Before the video that I didn't want to come out. I'm like, okay.

So the video came out whack. I said, I was mad. Buster's like, you don't want to shoot this video? I'm like, no, I don't want to shoot this. I want to shoot this. I'm like, fuck, I want to shoot this. I want to shoot this shit right here. He was like, you want to do it?

No budget. No budget left. No nothing. Fuck it. You know what? Let's shoot it. All right, come on. Shoot that.

Boom. Life changed, nigga. Boom. Never been the same nigga ever since. But, but, but, all right. You had to be, your back had to be

against the wall. What? Especially they tell, they telling me they gonna drop me. Yeah, I know how those calls go, so. They telling me they gonna drop me.

I'm like, damn, you gonna drop me? But what made you, what made you, what made you, did you, when you heard Coco, you knew this was gonna be phenomenal. When did you record Coco according to that conversation? Maybe like, I recorded Coco maybe, when they told me that, I probably recorded Coco maybe a week before that yeah I had it so I recorded maybe a week before that so um so I was like fuck I would like this I know this shit was hard as fuck I was I'm put it up I ain't know who's gonna be out nigga I'll be lying I did the shit never quarter and even though I was doing I'm like I'm gonna do him like It made me feel a certain kind of it was hard, but it was it was different

You know what I'm saying? So my mama with me like when music I'm big on like, um On delivery, I'm big on delivery. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes what you say is how you say it I mean put the sauce in there. It's like so I recorded that, man, and that shit was, I just thought it was hard. I was like, you know, I just had faith that it was a hard record that we could put out so these niggas can't be,

nigga, I wish some niggas would've dropped me. Right. Right, right, right. You know what that is, the pin the money, but look at that. That would've been a whole different ball. Cause I would've, I have ran up so crazy. I would have had to book me five months in advance.

Yeah, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So now, the closest thing to busting your first nut is hearing your song on the radio for the first time. Oh, crazy. That's the closest thing. Crazy. Because you know, your first nut, you're like, oh shit, when is that coming out? You know what I mean?

And then the only thing I can relate to that too is the first time hearing your song on the radio, ending your song being, and it actually goes and it works. Yeah. So describe that. Like, you know when you got this phone call, these people say you're going to get dropped. You drop this record. When's the first time you heard it? I was. Where was. I was it was I

Was um, I was getting some wing stop Wing stop, I was getting some wing stop. I was gonna car Let me have lemon pepper half original hot. Go ahead So so I was getting I was getting some wing stop Get back in the car. You hear this shit. Just ringing I swear I've never my life never changed so fast. Well, of course you only got one life but Like two weeks later, then I was lit. I was every fucking way. I know what the fuck I was doing Like, you know I'm saying my shoes move so fast I was you know when a record get crazy here and then it go overseas? It was here and overseas at the same time.

So I went overseas for like three months. Boom, ran it up over there. American. American. Let's make some noise for you. You hit that Europe pussy, god damn it. God damn it. God damn it.

God damn it. It's different, it's different. My first time, I was like, whoa. Düsseldorf, good Düsseldorf pussy, god damn it. You know what I mean? London pussy, god damn it. This shit is real. Look at Hank continue, man. Yeah know what I mean? London pussy, goddamn. This shit is real. Look at how it continues, man.

Yeah, so probably the same time. So I'm like overseas for like three months. I done hit everywhere. I hit all of Europe. I hit all of Asia. I hit all of Australia. Went all down to the Middle East. Went to Japan.

Went to Japan. Yeah, did Japan. Did Shanghai, did Shanghai, did Thailand. I did so many spots to where I was there and I heard grown men. I'm performing and grown men was crying saying, we love you. I'm like, oh, this is some Michael Jackson shit right here. Let me ask you because when you have a hit like that, right? How do you perform because because they stay they don't hire you for just that one song I know so hot like they hire you for like a half, but this is the biggest song. Yeah, and I don't have shit ups

So how do you how do you like? Hey, I got they like pay you you to come for like 30 minutes. 30 minutes, that's what I was about to say. So how do you do that? I'm in there for 30 minutes, like sitting there, like performing for 30 minutes, knowing that these niggas is just waiting for one song is crazy. So do you start your performance out with that song first? No, no. You let it build up. No, I'll let it build up.

So I do like some and you got energy too so i'll be seeing you so you come out there so i'm interested they be like okay whatever they they fill the out so what i'll be doing is i'll be trying records right you know what i'm saying i'll be trying records out while i'm while i'm while i'm performing like it's also some strategic you feel me and i'm trying out trying out seeing what they really vibe to but sometimes it's kind of like, because you know they waiting. And then it probably be one or two niggas somewhere,

Coco! You're like, fuck. This nigga trying to kill me. You know what I'm saying? But I be trying shit the whole time. And then when I perform Coco, I perform her like

two, three times at the time. No, you have to. Yeah, for sure. And it's the same response every time I perform you gotta turn Jamaican and be like you gotta turn Jamaican when you got a joint like that I'm gonna tell you a funny shit super thug right what what what what what that That's all the niggas wanted me to perform, right? So I go to Jamaica.

It's like number one in Jamaica. How the fuck is this number one in Jamaica? I have no idea. It's crazy. Right? So I'm out there and I have no idea. And so the guys tell me, they say, when they start shooting, you know, don't get scared. So I'm like, all right, cool.

Because he said it's so normal. I ain't thinking that. And I said, hold on, what the fuck is this thing just say to me? When they start shooting it what I didn't know was um they really shot in the air like as what what and the crazy shit was I had no choice they just kept there that that for right yeah I'll be honest that record that record broke John was like yeah it was being played in places yeah like I would never money I would never like right nigga, I would never, like, imagine that shit went over. And it was a social media sensation.

Like, it took a whole life of its own. That shit was going in to, like, motherfucking. People doing parodies. Yeah, it was like. All kinds of shit. At the time, niggas were like, oh, yeah, man, hey, Ed Sheeran said he's about to do a cover to it. You know, he want to talk to you. All right.

You know, fuck is Ed Sheeran? Yeah, man, I ain't know. I ain't know what you're talking about. I'm just a nigga like, who the fuck is that? I just called on to him. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right now.

Right. I mean, like last week, I found out. Right, right. So you're like, what the fuck is,

you know, I'm not even knowing, but I'm just going to get the bags. I'm going to get the bags. So this whole time, niggas is hitting me with the, you know why you're going,

the whole time niggas are like, so what's next? You know, that got to be bigger than that. Oh, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. You put the pressure on me, too. I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't going to lie.

For me, because I went through that. I went through the same as that. Like, I threw out Super Thug, right? And then I came out with Oh No. And Oh No was just as successful as Super Thug. Even my video was, that's the most played video ever. But radio-wise, people looked at it like, it wasn't Super Thug, buddy. So I'm talking about, they ripped me off.

So I was so scared for you because I'm like, what are you going to, like, I'm going to be honest. We, hip-hop fans are the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they're the worst. They're comparing you to honest. We, hip hop fans are the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the worst. They're comparing you to you. Yeah, yeah. They're shitting on you with you. Yeah.

What other in life can a person shit on you with you? So you wasn't half the man you was last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck? Now you got to compete with yourself? You gotta go back and be that nigga again?

That shit is hard as fuck. And you know, that shit used to like do something to me, but it was like, I swear to you, I didn't have no time to even go to the studio

to make another song. That's how much I was born. Six nights a week. You took that one night off because you wanted to. You could have been seven nights. You was touring like a wrestler. I was doing six nights.

He was out here like Ric Flair on niggas. Hulk Hogan. You got to make some noise for that guy. That's real shit. I like. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration

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And No matter where I go Like let's just say Miami I go to Miami I'm in Miami for two weeks Get what I'm saying? The whole time

I'm there When I go there I'm there Cause niggas Every promoter making sure I don't give a fuck Cause he was there At your club yesterday

Nigga, he here the next day. So I was doing every spot Every spot in every city just clean up clean up. I think I'm going to come into the airport looking crazy back in The back is looking crazy going through there. I remember they stopped me in Ohio and do a show know how they stop me You know what? nigga, but You looking like a drug dealer. I'm looking crazy. Yeah, they looking like you do I said no, I'm I'm They stopped me

There's money in my back money in my carry on it's still they even see the money that was in my suitcase You know same money in my caravan Why me so much fucking money bro off that one fucking song? You brought cocaine back. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Bad niggas talking about cocaine again. No, but let me tell you something. Do you know how much, anyhow, I said, you know what? I'm going back to the streets after this one song. Do you know how much plugs I met the whole way?

I know you met the niggas with the chest hairs out. What? Do you know? Yeah. I was doing. That's the real on tour. I was doing. I'm not going to say what city. I'm not supposed to say, but I was doing private shit for Mexican mafias on different shit.

Certain times. Different times. Doing shit for them and they people. They got narco music. You know what I'm saying? I was doing. Niggas was telling me every dip in like I would tell you right now It's probably like 20 cities. I hit right with different niggas like here's your number. This what I got. Mm-hmm

There's some more coming coming. Come look at my shit. What'm like, he gave me the best theme song. I did not. Now that I look at you, you look like the plug right now. Right now. I took another look and I said, you do look like the plug. I said, anytime I wanted to go back

to the street, I was okay. I met all the niggas that needed to meet. So what's that pressure like? You got this record, right? And the crazy shit is, like I said,

you're competing with yourself. You probably didn't know it at the time. Or did you know it? Did you know you could... I knew it, though. Okay, you didn't know it. Somebody asked me that one time. But they said you can't do it again?

No, I think I was on like TMZ or some shit. I had like 500 in my car or some shit like that. This one was some regular shit. Doing stupid shit like that. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, yo, how you going to do this? I'm like, man, tell, like, I think I, I think I said something like. When you say 500 in the car, you talking about $500?

You talking about $500,000? $500,000. Goddamn. Yeah. Goddamn, you said it so nonchalant. Goddamn. You know what I'm saying? Let's recognize that.

Let's make a note to that. Look at you, you said it. You don't have 500, you know what I mean? Say who, man? I respect that. I respect that. I got that. No, I'm saying, I was doing stupid shit like that. Because you know, and then you come from the hood, you like,

Yeah, yeah, just walk around the front of the house. Let's do it. Let's do it. It's normal shit. Then you say dumb shit like, That's nothing. from the hood, you like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, just walk around the front of the house. And then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do it, let's do it. It's normal shit. Then you say dumb shit like, I wish a nigga would. You know what I'm saying? Not knowing that, you know what I'm saying? So it was some shit like that. And I was like, you know, tell another nigga to rap with a beat.

I'm a competition with myself. I did some shit like that. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. And so it was like, but I knew what it was the whole time and everybody putting this pressure on me

because I sat back and I've studied the game so crazy to where we all, even like just hip hop, period. Right. Like,

we see a record or a person drop a new record. I don't give a fuck what it is. And a new record, but for it to be so big, and for us to not know you,

and to be so big and so major, not just so big and so major, but for it to sound like a gimmick, makes us say, all right, that's it. You get what I'm saying? But the difference between what people couldn't figure out was people

made me a song, but not knowing my attributes. You get what I'm saying? I'm able to, I'm able to, I can do a whole lot of shit musically because I'm very musically inclined. That's what I tell a lot of niggas. I don't know cocky shit. It's just I can do a lot. I have this shit down pat, bro. I know shit that a lot of people don't know or I pay attention to a lot of shit

that people don't pay attention to. You know what I mean? So it's everything. So it's like, I ain't going to do it today. You don't got to. You don't got to. You know what I mean? So it's everything. It's like, I ain't going to do it today. You don't got to. So sometimes it's... That pressure,

I'm going to tell you what happened. What was your thought saying, my next record? I said I don't know what I'm going to do. Because I felt that. I like that. I felt like all the pressure was on me to make something bigger.

And my whole mindset was make something bigger than what you just did. Because what was the next record? You can't do that anymore. So the next one, well, this is what happened. Okay, yeah. what, this is what happened. So, I had a I had a I had a mixtape coming out and I had DJ Drama host my mixtape.

And so, I was recording the shit. It was a whole lot of melodic shit and then it was a whole lot of street shit. Just showing what I could, you know, show what I could do. Excuse me, so I named the tape Rhythm and Bricks. You know what I can you know what I could do excuse me so I named the tape rhythm and bricks you know what I'm saying

R&B with rhythm and bricks you know what I'm saying and so I sent it to drama and drama said this is me and drama's like you need some more ghetto shit on there yeah he like OT this hard he's like hard, but it's too much rhythm, not enough bricks. You know what I mean? Like, I know you, like. And he was like, man, put at least like two more songs in there, something like that. Right. And that's when I got into not giving a fuck.

So it was like, put in two more songs. And most of the songs I was overthinking anyway. It was like, put in like two more songs in there. Right. I recorded. Cut more songs in there. Right. I recorded. Cut it and push it. Right then and there. Bomb, bomb.

Like two, right back to back. Boom, boom. So it was cut it. Cut it. Did that. Boom. And push it came next, right? Push it came next.

Go with the money. Go with the money. We started doing that shit next. Back to back. But push it didn't go as far as Cutty though. No, Cutty went first and then Pusha was just

creeping up under, you know what I mean? But Cutty went and Cutty went double platinum. Because you know, this is before the streams and everything

when this was Oh, you didn't get the streaming money on that? No, it was I'm just saying I'm just letting everybody know that this was before the streamers started popping off and everything was just about sales. It went double platinum.

Goddamn, make some money. Goddamn. I just thought I'd say that. I just wanted to mention it. But when you make such a great, phenomenal, big, huge record like that, there's always that foul word, one hit wonder. When Coco went, was people telling you that? I'm asking. Yeah, people were saying, well, of course it was his face, whatever, you know I did. Was people telling you that? I'm asking. Yeah, people would say, well, of course it was his face, whatever. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I would be like, damn, one hit, one. I'm like, damn, niggas didn't even give me a chance. You don't even want to hear nothing yet. They did it to all of us. You don't even care if I make something else. You just want to stack. Yeah, yeah.

Niggas are like, all right, one hit, one desire. But there is a lot of one hit, one desire. Yeah. Was you nervous, though? Was you like. I was nervous because they was putting that pressure on me and because I didn't know what that would do when your Wrecking is so big you never know what you're getting yourself I don't mess you because we all love that shit was super So how do you even compete because even if you fall short you fall like even if you come as opposed to this

It's five if you come, let's suppose it's 5,000, you come 45. People still say, you ain't that good. So that was the fact that you stayed consistent and you kept going with these hits. That is beautiful. But did you ever doubt yourself? Did you ever say to yourself, I can make another one? Or, man, I might not have it. No, one or man i might not have it no i always said i never said i might not have it i always said i can make another one but i don't know which one it is

because my whole thing about this shit man is having fun with it because niggas forget this and this is what happened when i did cut it and And I did Push It. I did Thick. And Everybody Mad. You know, all that shit. You know what I mean? It's like, I forgot. Like, for a second, I started to forget. I started to forget, like, why I was here. And why I did it.

And why that song sounded the way that it sounded. It's all because I was having a good time and I was having fun. You know what I'm saying? You getting this shit, my nigga? And you start overthinking a whole bunch of shit because of what everybody else may think or may say. You know why this shit was when a nigga was in a garage or

in a homie room or whatever? Nigga, whatever you put out was a hit. You know what I'm saying? Now a nigga makes something and be like, damn, is it? How you feel about it? It'll only used to matter about how you felt about it. You get what I'm saying?

And everybody else just go off of that. That's what it used to be. Now you're worried about what everybody else in the room think. That's real. Nigga, whatever you used to put out back then was going. Because you had your studio time. You recorded. Nigga, you like, damn, I make this?

That's just sound hard. But it was really that. Now you just overthinking because of what everybody else thinking. That's real shit right there.

You know what I mean? That's real shit. I couldn't agree more. You just came up to

a Wiz Khalifa right? How was that? It was dope. Whole lot of friendly

white people. It was lit. It was lit. They was lit man. They showed me a whole bunch of love man. It was two. It was lit. They was lit, man. They showed me a whole bunch of love, man.

Because I went on like, it was two different tours. I went on a tour with Chris last year. You said Chris. You're talking Chris Brown. Chris Brown, yeah. Let's make some noise for that. He says nonchalant shit. So 500K.

500K on the top. Chris. You know, he doesn't even give it to Brown. Chris, you know. And, you know, Miss Khalifa. No, it's beautiful, man. It's beautiful, man. We all proud of you over here.

Yes, yes. No, no. And so, for me to, um, there was a, um, my two times going on, like, tour with artists is, like, my first time touring. Because you usually go on tour by yourself. Yeah, and that's, like, in me, it's just, it ain't like a tour tour. It's a tour, but it's, like, I'm first time touring. Because you usually go on a tour by yourself. Yeah, and that shit, like, in me, it's just, it ain't like a tour tour. It's a tour, but it's like, I'm gone.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, usually I'm overseas, coming back, it ain't like just a regular OT Genesis tour in the States and shit like that. Right. So, it was fun because, first, I got to, you know, I got to see something different,

you know what I mean, with more of our fan base and everything like that. Then you go different, you know what I mean, with more of our fan base and everything like that. Then you go to Wiz fan base and you see something totally different over there. So I get to capitalize. And sometimes you'll see it. I'm like, am I going to go to a tour and it's going to be all just moguls and they're just going to be like,

everybody's just hammered, just looking. But the whole time is, what I love about it is, those people there, that fan base, they, you could be rocking, turn the fuck up,

doing whatever you're doing, but, and this is what I say, about our people, and when I say black people, you don't know something, if you don't know it, niggas are most likely going to be niggas and be like,

alright, alright, nigga, okay, yeah, yeah, wait till we get to a world where we not. Nigga, I spend my money, and I spend my time, and they over there like, trying to figure it out. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm sitting there like trying to figure it out right like decipher you know what I'm saying and I'm sitting there like damn they just watching to push it up jump in the sky anybody start jumping in the sky you know I'm saying because they came you know I mean for a show not saying Chris wasn't like that cuz this shit was lit as fuck you know I'm saying but I'm just saying going into it you know just just just fucking with a new crowd, a new audience. And you're watching everybody, you're talking to everybody, you're looking at everybody,

and you can actually look somebody in the eye and be like, oh yeah, da da da, and they're like, you fucking rock! You did it all right! You can be like, yeah! No, I love those guys. You know what I'm saying? The guys will be like, they do like this,

they're like, you rock, dude! I'm like, oh shit, I like you. Yeah, come fuck my girl! You can fuck my girl! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. Yeah, come fuck my girl, you can fuck my girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to look crazy, guys. What? Bro!

Bro, what are you talking about? I can't hold it! Bro, what are you talking about? Yeah, shit real. Shit real. This shit is real. Yeah, but, so this shit was dope, man. It was really dope.

It was really dope. Okay. Now, you ever thought um uh like you'll be here you ever thought you'll be like what you're doing like i said the other day i didn't that you didn't think you no i didn't i thought i had like two years right and you'd be back on the block you said I never gave up my plugs I still got they numbers somewhere And that's 22 years ago True

I was um I never knew where this shit would go With me And I'm still not even at my peak I'm far from it I haven't even dropped the album yet I'm dropping singles and picking up my bags. You know what I mean?

Picking up your bag, goddammit. We respect it. So, but I never thought that I would like be here. I always thought that I was gonna start shaking and I was gonna be popping. I didn't know when, I didn't know what time, I didn't know what I'd be doing, I ain't know none of that. You know what I mean?

But I never thought that like, I be here or, fuck it nigga, like, nigga I'm with Nori Aiken, nigga I'm with the Drink Champs, nigga we chillin' and we drinkin', talkin' about some, we talkin' about some real ass shit. You know what I'm sayin'? That kinda shit, you know what I'm sayin'? That kinda shit.

That's beautiful, man. I'm like, damn like, it's the same nigga I used to, when I used to watch the box Yes, I was on the box this is great was on the box is correct any other comedian I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, nigga ain't tell me nothing, bro. I'm not going to lie to you, Mark, dude. You, I don't know where you was at in this gas station, but you did the meanest crip walk. Yo, shit, let me tell you how mean your crip walk was.

That anybody could put any music to anything, and your shit went exactly right. What did I say, yo? yo, I ain't gonna lie. That was the meanest crip walk I've ever seen. Did you know that? Did you know you broke the internet with your crip walk? Yeah. And listen, these niggas had jingle bells behind you.

These niggas had. These niggas. I don't want anything. You can put anything behind and you went right through. The funniest one that I saw, I was on want anything. You can put anything behind and you wouldn't wait through. The funniest one that I saw, I was on the internet, and I was walking, I had my rag on my head, I had the blue pants on, I had my blue chucks,

and the nigga put the, what's it called in the background, the Backstreet Boys, Tell me why I ain't nothing but a lie. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm walking. And then you can hear my homie in the background. I'm like, walk up. Walk up.

Now, that was some crazy shit. That was some crazy shit. So what is that? Is that a perfection? It always. No, but look. Walking to me, it was always like, a part of life,

like, right? Like, I would see like, big homies, my cousins, you know what I'm saying? I'd see my cousins or whatever,

and they like, niggas get their check, and I'm like, like 12, 13 at the time, niggas get their check, niggas walking, they walk in the living room

They got they check all but you know me was it was a celebration, you know the same the celebration You know, I mean it love your shit was just clean. Yeah For me for me. I'm on my shit. So that's why I be telling niggas. I'm like Jesus ain't the only one that walked on water niggas You and dub see I just seen I didn't introduce it to the body. Yeah, I mean I just seen don't see at the In Detroit, I was just saying here in Q, but if y'all bad was on the show Yeah, I was seven you did you did you take the up see? Of that? Yeah, he not old, but time has passed. You know what I'm saying? He an OG, so the shit that I could do.

I see him. Yeah. That shit brought me up. No, but that's what I said. We love Dub. We love him. You know what I'm saying? That's my dude.

I love him. We love him. He just said I'm a young nigga. You know, he was a young nigga. Skip it. That's what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? Right, right said I'm a young nigga. You know, he was a young nigga skipping. That's what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, yeah.

Now you got the coldest quip rolling again. You know what I mean? I'm gonna be honest. Is it, anybody can speak up now for that Behold Your Peace. You ain't gotta ask nobody. Speak up now, I'm up in shit. I'm declaring you got the coldest quip

rolling again. That's what I'm doing. That's what a nigga hold on to. That's hard, man. That's hard. That's hard. So, let me take I mean? That's what I want to hold on to. That's hard, man. That's hard. That's hard. So let me take it back to the beginning again, right? You being a crip and from Long Beach.

What was your first time meeting the blood? And was it animosity? Or was it just like, oh, okay, this is my first time? That's funny. You know what I'm just saying? No. You know what I'm just saying? No. You know why?

Because, like, I ain't going to say no who's or nothing, but my cousins and my family, like, most of my family is, like, they bloods. You know what I'm saying? From L.A.? Family members, yeah. They from L.A. Okay. And they bloods. Like, these are my real family members.

They my realies. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, I call them my realies so you can't call them your cousin because there ain't no cup. You know what I'm saying? So my route my real family members in my release You know I'm saying like I call my really so you can't come your cousin cuz they ain't no cook You know me don't say cousin, you know, so I respect them that way. You know what I'm saying? They be like, yeah, oh, hey, hey, bro, yeah, bro. You know what I'm saying? And they all plus, you know what I'm saying? But I'm from Long Beach, you know what I'm saying?

And they know you all. Yeah, they know that. But they know, you know? They love me though. You know what I mean? Goddamn, We love you. Yeah, drink chaff, too. Goddamn.

Goddamn. We had Young Dolph on here yesterday, right? Yeah. What made you put him on cutting? I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you what. I was listening to Dolph for like... Dolph getting a lot of money he had a blue teeth blue jewelry and

blue earrings I see my life was different it was there to dog get a lot of money man yeah don't go make me start changing shit up no but and he said his brother he said yeah that's the homie That's the bro You know what I mean What made you I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you why I love him too So I'm gonna tell you this Cool

So I'm like I was listening to Dolph for a minute And then Dolph had put out What record at the time I was doing Coco But then I was

The shit The shit The song The song hit my soul it was um Fuck I can't remember right now, but it's a it was it was a song was going after I did coke after like Coco was Dying there He did he did that he did um but i'm thinking this i don't fuck with these niggas because they shady these bitches they didn't want to have my baby born in the 80s crank baby yeah all that shit i was like what i'm like this shit hard it's so um i'm gonna so while i'm running around

on coco i'm like was it coco was it it was coco so i'm like i'm running around on Coco, I'm like, was it Coco or was it, it was Coco. So I'm like, I'm running around, cool, I got Dolph's number, I think I'll hit him on Twitter, I'm like, nigga,

you got the hardest song, nigga, you got the hardest song I got right now. I told him, I was playing it. Yeah, I'm OT,

and I'm playing it, but I was listening to Dolph because niggas had put me on Dolph way before, you know what I'm saying? So, I was listening, I already was listening to Dolph, I knew he was a street nigga, I knew, you know what I'm saying So I was listening I already was listening dog

I knew he was a street nigga I knew You know what I mean I knew he was putting out music And whatever Blah zay blah zay Cool That's cool

So I'm doing Cut It And as I'm doing Cut It I'm doing Running through bands on the reg Hitting my plug on the cell Tell my bitch I'm sorry I'ma skate off on the ride

Then So I got tired of it being Let me tell you how I'm musically inclined I got tired of it being so repetitive that I just water whipping looking like a fish in baseball the kitchen with my home or pissing rolly yo is glisten I'm Madonna kissing niggas steady tripping so I steady gripping third you know I mean that's how to be repetitive and so I change that up boom boom boom boom, boom, boom, boom. So boom.

Cut it. Go back to the hook. Then I said, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nah, I ain't going to do it. I'm not going to go back in the second verse like that. That's too repetitive. I just had a whole eight bars. And I just changed my other eight bars because I didn't want it to be so repetitive the way that it was.

So I said, you know what I'm going to do? I got to put somebody on there. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do the same fucking thing that I just did. Put somebody on there. Who the fuck am I going to put on there? Nah, I ain't going to hype these. That's why I ain't going to just put any nigga on. Let me just put the hottest nigga on this.

I ain't doing that. You know what I'm going to do? Put another street nigga on it. What I'm going to do? Who number I got out this? Dolph. Hey, Dolph, get on there. He like, oh, nigga, come on, come on, man, send it to me.

I'm going to do it. I said, okay, cool. So, cool. So, I send it to Dolph. And then, maybe like, I woke up in the morning, I went to 24-hour fitness, because I be going to the gym cuz I think I've been drinking so much So I wasn't a gym right I wasn't in the morning. I go work out get a steam room. I get out I'm like damn nigga ain't send me the verse right

Don't don't know this For five minutes, how's our feelings some kind of way? Right like for five minutes, I started feeling some kind of way. Right? I'm like, nigga, you sent me my verse? Right? I'm like,

oh, this looks how the nigga this is, right? So I'm like, let me see what it is. So I call him, I'm like, I'm like,

what's up, kyle? I'm like, damn, you can't give me my verse? He's like, oh, nigga,

I forgot to send, I'm about to send it to you right now. Nigga sent it to me, nigga, in 30 seconds. Oh, I'm like When it water My trap money, I said, oh shit this it right so I'm not cool. We're gonna shoot the video

So, uh, um, hey the homie my homie come to you know, it's my homie, my homie from Compton, you know what I'm saying, my homie AD, he from Compton, so we shot it in his hood, we shot it in the Lantana, so we go over there, boom, we about to shoot it over here, we go shoot it on the one-way, shoot it on the one-way street, one way in, one way out, fuck it, because you know we feel weak, and we know we finna be active, so just in case n shot up. You finna go shoot on the one way Boom shoot on the one way. It's a dead end. So we shoot on the dead end. Boom. It's like a thousand niggas out there They hit Dolph. Yeah, Dolph. Hey, we bout to bubble up. Nigga, Dolph come up pull up in the red Rory nigga Boom boom boom boom. With a Compton hat on. Boom. Pull up. What's up? Jump out. It was him and one nigga

After that I had love for the nigga for life. You feel me? Jumped out in the hood. Nigga with him and one nigga in the Rory. Nigga, boom. Boom. Nigga, it's like 60 niggas out there. Nigga, we hammered up ready for whatever.

You know what I'm saying? And y'all from Long Beach. But you got the... We from Long Beach. We got Long Beach and Continent. Continent and Long Beach together. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

All right. All right. So look. So we out there. We Long Beach together. Exactly. All right. So we out there thick. We out there super thick. This nigga pull up. Dog pull up. Pull up in the ring. Him and one nigga.

I said, oh, yeah, cut straight. I said, he straight cut good over here. Jump out. We start shooting. Nigga cut it. Out of there. So Busta's one of my friends. Yeah. Every record I play for Busta, he'd be like,

how did you be on that? How the hell? How the hell you had all these big records and you ain't had Busta on a record yet? I don't fucking play with Busta. He's fucking crazy. Yeah, he's crazy. He doesn't even know, he don't even know he's that crazy.

No, I tell him sometimes. No, but listen. Okay, go ahead. I'm like, listen, you know, the type of nigga I am, I like to, I like my space. And I'm like, look, you can do blase, blase, the type of nigga I am, I like my space. And I'm like, look, you can do blase, blase, blase, but I'm going to do what the fuck I do. I know you're crazy. I know you probably don't fucking have it all.

But don't put your crazy with my crazy. It's not going to happen. So, I love that nigga. So, I'll out of there. But we understand it. That's beautiful. So it's dope. It's beautiful. I swear to God. But that's how I know you have a strong mind on your head because he would have bullied you.

Depending on everything You mean what? Listen, I played Buster back then. It won't even be complete. He'd be like, am I getting on it? I'm like, damn. You're like the bully niggas. Buster, you got to relax. I'm not going to lie.

I think the belief that he has in you was phenomenal. You know what I'm saying? When Coco first came out, I remember his campaign. I remember just seeing him in New York City and just going. He was actually your street team. You seen him fall and hit his shit? By him?

Oh, yeah. And bust his whole shit? Yes, I've seen that as well. That was on the internet. I was not there. But I think the way he campaigned for you, it's only, it's like two of my best artist CEOs is Busta Rhymes and Rick Ross. Like Rick Ross really goes all the way

for his artists and Busta, he really goes all the way for his artists. And I've seen him personally work in your record. Like, it was phenomenal. I'm in love with when Tococo first came out. He would go to One Oak and he would give it to the DJ and the DJ would take their time playing it. And you know him, he's like,

what the fuck is that you're saying, Carl? And I would make them play it. And I sat back and I saw that. And it was repeated. It wasn't one time I've seen him do that. And for his vision, or you guys working together, because obviously I didn't know. But I just seen his part, you know what I'm saying? So for that vision to come to fruition,'s it's a fucking beautiful thing man it's a

beautiful fucking thing man we're proud of you over here we got sweetness god damn we got some we got can we bring a couple of industry people in like we got we'll do it in a second we'll do it in a second yeah because we um But, yo. So, now.

You win this game. You got these platinum plaques. You out last night with Mike Kaiser. Good dinner. Fantastic. You didn't pay, right? Your credit card didn't come on, right? Nah.

I was going to spend. But then Kaiser said to me, don't you do that OT. Don't you... He causes of me don't you do it I would see don't you give it I don't you not to get that get get what skip and get away from him I'm like I am you know I'm good okay because is around make sure my guys all right that's a different kind of car yeah no he's actually this card is for the artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for that.

So make sure he pays. And we're going to get to the bottom line, and Sean Peck is going to pay, too, as well. No, where's Sean Peck at? Sean Peck, he's a piece of shit. He needs to come here. What? He needs to be here. Yeah, he's a piece of shit.

He needs to be here. I love him. I love him. I love him, though. In an endearing way. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I love him. He's a piece of shit. He love him. I love him. I love him, though. In an endearing way. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I love him. He's a piece of shit.

He knows that. He knows that. He knows if I see him, I'm going to tell him he's a piece of shit. All right, go ahead. Now, how is, are you enjoying? One thing about you, I don't care where I see you, you always smile. You always have a positive energy. And I noticed that because I always have a positive energy in the aura.

And that's because I want a nigga to know 100% I'm showing you super love because don't violate me. So that makes me scary of you. It's the same way. Because when you have too much positive energy, it's because you... Super love because don't violate me. Yeah, that makes me scary Wait, you got shooters People don't understand that you give what I'm saying. Yeah, we don't understand that it's like I'm not the Nick you can't look at like this is not Where you take advantage like don't look at, like, this is not where you take advantage. Like, don't take advantage of me.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Because I could turn into a whole different kind of nigga. Right. And you wonder why I'm here. Right. You know what I'm saying? We've seen the cubs just jump out at you. Yeah, it's like, don't, don't, like, don't do that, man.

I'm, I know where I came from. Bro, and it's hard, my nigga. This shit, that shit hard, bro. That shit hurt. Right. You try to figure this shit out. Right. Nigga, I swear to God, bro, and it's hard, my nigga, this shit, that shit hard, bro, that shit hurt, you try to figure this shit out, nigga, I swear to God, bro, me and my baby mama, nigga, nigga, we used to eat Cars Junior, nigga, together, nigga, and watch a movie, bro, two, two, what we spent, like, we spent like $3.14, nigga, two chicken sandwiches, nigga, two chicken sandwiches with cheese and some fries, nigga, and share that, when I take a loss, you know when a nigga take a loss, you can share that when I take a loss you know when

they can take a look you know what it like to take a long time you said cause junior cars yeah they call they got they got they call it like what they call it in some different places oh we've hardies hardy so some shit like that you get I'm saying but not like when the nigga take a loss nigga you and they're gonna hit your pockets and whatever, you lose. You lose everything. This a nigga losing. I don't give a fuck what I'm losing at the time. 20, 70, 100, 30, 300, 400. Whatever a nigga losing, I'm losing.

That's all I got. All right. So I'm sitting here. The only thing that make me happy, my nigga, is making sure that I'm eating something and I'm watching a movie. Alright. I'm a movie nigga too. Yeah. What's the last movie you seen?

I just went to see Venom. You seen Venom? You go to the actual movies or you? Both. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to do bootlegging sometime. I'm not going to lie. There's a nigga named Hanif.

You still go to the bootleg? Nah, there's a nigga named Hanif. He be sending me links. He be sending me links. Hanif my nigga from E1. I'm not supposed to say his name. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm in common. He be sitting in the laundry. Hanif my nigga.

From E1. I'm not supposed to say his name? I'm sorry. I'm going to say that. Nigga get legal check. He ain't trying. I mean, it's not like he make a living. It was, it was.

I watched the movie, right? My girl made me watch a movie the other day. And it came out a long time ago. It was about watch what what was such a I was just watch the movie okay we got to talk about this fucking movie let's talk about this movie okay you can google it That's hard. Put on speaker. Let's put on speaker. Oh, shit. This is different for drink jazz. We are in it.

Babe, where you at? In the movies. Okay. Look, she in the movies. In the movies. Oh. Look, look, look. So I'm doing my interview right now. I swear it.

Right now. God in heaven. And I was telling them, they just asked me what movie I watched. What movie was I watching when we was talking about the nigga with the nigga was gambling and all that? What was that? What movie was that? When someone was gambling. Remember the nigga was gambling, and he was talking about he offered a girl a million dollars

and some shit to sleep with him? Oh, in the proposal. Okay, all right, all right, all right. I'm gonna call you back. I'm gonna call you back. Yeah, in the proposal. All right. That is a little... That is a little... What the hell do you want with that one? I just saw that my first time. My first time. I

Wasn't a Friday Friday after next All of the shit and all the horror movies. You seen the one with the deaf girl? Oh, where she keep repeating her deaf? No. How about the deaf girl who can't hear shit? And she like... I ain't seen this one. Go ahead.

Put me on. It's a deaf girl, right? I see deaf. She's deaf. She can't hear shit. Not like deaf Jeff. She's like deaf deaf. He said not deaf like Jeff. Stop it. She's in that she's in a deaf deaf

She's deaf right, but she can't hear shit No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like, so like that. And she has like a best friend or whatever that lives like next to her. And so she's deaf. So the killer comes. I guess like a best friend comes to the house, can visit her, keeps visiting, grabs Jeff, like cut her throat, slam her against the fucking thing.

She's washing dishes, can't hear nothing. Frame right there. All kinds of crazy shit. throat slammer against the fucking thing she's washing dishes can't hear nothing I can say I promise you okay I promise you I can take no you got it this one is a little bit silly okay watch this watch this this is this is my favorite one they have you saw the movie right right? Listen. Everybody needs to pay attention to this. Okay, it's a movie with the blind man. That can't see. Wait, wait. It's the blind man, right? I guess he was like an ex-militant.

But I guess he went blind. So it's people in L.A. We call it flocking. So when you hear people robbing people's houses, anybody robbing people's houses, we call that flocking in L.A. I think that was a dream. All the celebrities don't know what it's called.

Whatever, but it's called flocking. invasion of common login yeah home invasion is called Niggas say Don't think that they don't know All the niggas who stay in the area Alright That's why I have an area That's what star maps is for Like Anyway So listen What are you telling me So listen I'm asking I'm curious

So I guess he was He was an ex-military But he's blind now Right So It's people who It's niggas who's

Hitting houses That's what they do For a living So they say We gonna hit the biggest house And so I swear You watch this movie

It's so fucking lit That's the one You gotta watch tonight So They happen to go Into this blind man's house Ex-military though But he

They heard that he got A settlement Or something For some I think it was like 400, settlement or something for some thing. I think it was like $400,000 or some crazy shit like that. But whatever. So they go to the house to see what it is.

It looked like an abandoned house. They go in the house. The nigga right there, I don't even want to tell you the whole story. Blind nigga right there. But you know, he hear everything. It's like wooden floors floors they come in there He grab a nigga It's it look crazy the light cut off fucking lights off

It tell people you go see what you go see what I see boom Shut all the lights in the whole fucking house so he could so he can we don't get you to start Oh shit is lit This thing is watching too much Andy Chaplin movies We gonna get you to stop. All this shit is lit. This nigga watching too much Andy Chaplin movies. We're gonna get you to stop watching able-bodied movies. No, but it's lit though. It's called, it's called, it's called. You got the deaf nigga and the blind nigga. Don't breathe, don't breathe.

Yeah, but did you, you didn't, all right, before we take this shot, you didn't see this shit where the bitch, she keep dying every day? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't wanna watch it because I thought. That shit is hard. Let me tell you why I didn't wanna watch it. She keep dying every day she was like in college or something like that yeah but she can see her death yeah I was gonna see it I'm gonna taste up to the material potato the dopest movies

This are the horror movies. That's rated are read the horror movies It's crazy. What's the first time we took a horror movie? It's horror movies. That's that's pg-13 Meaning that it's certain shit that they can't show They don't get so you get cut okay, so you bleed it they can't show. They can't show you getting cut. They can't show you bleeding They can't show you they can't show certain shit like that when it's PG-13. It's a horror movie Now when it's a horror movie and it's rated R, they showing all that. Your fucking guts come out Boom boom boom, nigga cut you. They show if it's PG-13

Nigga be like you scream And the screen turns black. They need to go to some other shit, but you just happen to be dead. I'm still scared. Let's take a shot. There's a horror movie right here. Yo, listen. I don't know if you know, but we celebrate our artists over here.

So many people in this game, you get a success, you get a little bit, and they want to ride you off, and they want to tell you to get the fuck out of this game. That's not what we do over here. We want to celebrate our artists. We want to tell you to get the fuck out of this game. That's not what we do over here. We want to celebrate our artists.

We want to tell the people, let's continue to keep growing, keep busting people's asses. Can I say something? Fucking fucking, footing on their fucking neck. Can I say something? Yes, you can say something. Okay, so this is what I understand. Not just as a rapper, but as a human being. This is what I understand.

And this is why I never go against the grain. I don't play no nigga. I don't play no artist. I don't do none of that. I'm fully with the functions and extra and I'm with the shit. So if you want to try me, you can. But what I'm trying to say is this. This is the main message. It could be a nigga

doing his shit that I've never hated on. I don't hate on no rappers no nothing. Because I don't know what they really deal with in real life. A nigga mom could have cancer, my nigga. Or a nigga could be with in real life right and nigga mom could have cancer money or anything could be stressing over some bullshit and they get sunk or have a amputated just this crazy shit that you don't know that a nigga really dealing with but you play a nigga because you just want to play in here but this could be his blessing and God's blessing then

he says through somebody to get to somebody else. Goddamn, let's take this shot. You know what I'm saying? Oh, fuck. Don't worry about it. We're going to fill you right up. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Pause. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.

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Hey! Let's take it down. This is a hard movie. Mm. Fresh off. That's definitely a hard movie. And look, I just want to let everybody know since we're here that I can never fall off and I can change the temperature anytime I want to.

Dream champs. Thank you very much. That's right. Thank you. Yo, do you think you could ever, cause you know you come from a camp, Busta is probably the best, one of the best dudes on stage. Do you think you could ever like outdo Busta on stage? I think I'm better than him. Get out of here. You want me to tell you why?

On stage? You want me to tell you why? Okay, go ahead. You ready? I'm ready. I'm super ready. Where's the camera? Where's the camera I need to be looking at? Oh, look at the camera. Look dead into this one.

Yeah. OK. I'm going to move out of the way a little bit. Because Busta has a hype, man, I don't. Woo! She got real. She got real. All right.

It's me by myself. You're all out there, Dolo. It's me by myself, Dolo. And I'm giving a great show. And I'm bringing my songs to life by myself. You're all out there dolo. It's me by myself, dolo. And I'm giving a great show. And I'm bringing my songs to life by myself. Damn, DMXing it. Right. And that's somebody who I do look up to, too.

Performances. It's like Busta and X. It's lit. Ja Rule's a good one, too. You ever seen Ja Rule? It's by himself. No, because I haven't. With Ja Rule, It's by itself. No, because I haven't when Ja Rule, I was back, I was so young. You know what I mean?

It's shit that I want to see, that I wanted to see, that I never got to see. You know what I mean? So I could be like, oh, that's a dope-ass performer. Because I can't really name performers like that. When I come out here, I came to the beat to all love, to all the artists who performed.

But you wasn't feeling the performances. But I knew when I came there, it wasn't going to be nothing to make me be like, that nigga's lit. Wow. Because we come there as, and I know what it feels like when you're sitting in a crowd. It's people that, and this is what I tell people, even on Whistle, I was telling them is that, it's people that come this is what I tell people Even on Whistle I was telling them is that It's people that come here

Excuse me And they pay they money Right To see a show And sometimes We going through Some shit my nigga That people don't even know about

And we came here To numb that Right Right So when you come here You walking around You looking like I might as well

Listen to it on the radio Yeah It's real It's real You get what I'm saying? Bring that shit to life Bring that shit to life That's what this shit is about This is entertainment, my nigga

This is entertainment This is hip-hop and it's entertainment And we gotta have fun with this shit That's what this shit is about You know what the crazy shit about Being a hip-hop artist Or being what we do Is we can't actually have a bad day What I mean by that is crazy shit about being a hip hop artist or being what we do,

is we can't actually have a bad day. What I mean by that is, I don't know, something, it felt like something funny happened to me, but what I mean by that is, let's suppose tomorrow you wake up and you have a bad day, you just wanna go get some Advil from the store, and you tell somebody, yo chill, I don't wanna take a picture, you have a bad day you just want to go get some Advil from a store and you tell somebody yo chill I don't want to take a picture you become a dickhead you become yeah you know I'm saying so um niggas don't understand understand like that and the thing about it is I had a friend I can't say his

name but he broke up with his girl right he He was on Instagram just talking all this dumb... Yo, with love hurts. Shit. And I had to call him. And I had to call him. I said, no one cares

that your girl effed you. No one... Instagram is not for feelings. Like, you gotta... It's not. And, needless to say,

he was pissed at me. He was like, what? I just want her to see it. And I was just like. That's why people do that shit. And I was just like, I told him, I said, you're never gonna get sympathy on Instagram.

No, but that's for women, and that's where they go to do. Even they don't get sympathy on Instagram. But they don't, but that's just somewhere for them to, it's a place for women. Don't pop this off white. Yeah, it's a place for women's event because other women understand women no matter what the fuck we say okay we say we're fucking saying they like you want some goofy shit you see that old see I'm just want to show you

yeah yeah this is a real champion so other women are viable other women and be like you know what you right you don't need him girl focus on that and his plaza plaza plaza he ain't shit because right now on the internet all the blog sites, everything, any man do something wrong, I don't give a fuck what it is. It doesn't have to be, what's the word I'm looking for? What's the word I'm looking for when... Not me too. No, no, no, no, no. What's the word I'm looking for when you heard something and you don't know if a nigga did it?

What's it called? Hearsay. No, no. In court. It's not speculation. It's allegations. So, niggas has been. This shit not real.

So, right now, niggas is getting looked at crazy off of allegations, bro. More than anything. And all a woman has to say is, I'll talk to her. Let me tell you something. There was an officer I talked to the other day, right? Taking down officers? No, I was talking. No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I was like, listen, I was like, listen to this. I said, let me tell you how much power a woman has, which is crazy to me, right? And I'm going to tell you why it's crazy to me. It's not crazy to me because a woman shouldn't have power. It's crazy to me to find out how much power she got. Now, watch this. Nori, if you walked out right now, walked out this door right now, if you walked out

the fucking door right now and we all stayed in the door, and we walked out this door right now, and it was a woman standing across the street, and she said, oh, my God, he raped me. Goddamn. Do you know that you're guilty until proven innocent, and you have to do that time? Mm.

Do you know that you're capable of doing 10 to 15 to 30 years? You could use another nigga here. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I just want to let you know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You get what I'm saying? I get what you're nigga here. Wait, wait, wait. I just want to listen to you. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. You get what I'm saying? I get what you're saying.

Not going to work, though. So listen. Not going to work. Not going to work. Jesus. So this is what I'm saying. But if you said, oh, my God, she's doing, she's putting up. You know what the police will say?

Go home. I want to make sure we take care of that. Hey, what you did? Talk to her, and she's going home. No, I've been me too. But you're doing years. I'm going to be honest. You've been me too. I want to make sure we take care of that. Hey, we should talk to her, and she's going home. No, I've been me too. But you've been doing years. I'm going to be honest. You've been me too.

I've been me too. Wait, wait. You've been doing years. When I first got signed on Penalty Records, them bitches just smacked me on my ass. I thought it was cool. The chicks in the office, I swear to God. You said you me too. I was me too.

I should have stepped up. I didn't know. I was like, I'm from the hood, from the projects. I'm like, fuck it, I gotta pick. Either get smacked in my ass. But check. How'd that make you feel?

I didn't dislike it. But I was 18, they was taking advantage of me. But I'm sorry, I wouldn't. Yeah, but you get what I'm saying? So it's just like it's just like how did what I wear this shit became bro like this shit is like this shit crazy it's like they give her women a whole lot of power which they should because they're women but it's certain women that abuse it you get what I'm saying and you could

be you could you could be sitting right there in jail right now because of a bump bitch cuz every bitch ain't solid no every woman they saw excuse me every You could be sitting right there in jail right now because of a bunk bitch. Because every bitch ain't solid. No, every woman ain't solid. Excuse me. Every woman ain't solid. You have a bitch and you have a woman. There's a woman that's solid.

And then you have bitches that just want to injure you. You get what I'm saying? And you be sitting in jail doing years. There's niggas out there who really, let me tell you something. Because a lot of niggas say they ain't did nothing. But there's niggas out there who really, let me tell you something, because a lot of niggas say they ain't did nothing. But it's niggas out there that really never did nothing. That's there.

Right. And it's niggas that did something, that's there. But it all depends on the woman. And what, you know what I mean?

And who she is and what she deal with and whatever. You had experience with like a groupie or somebody that could excuse you or something?

No, I be scared of that shit, bro. I'd be scared of that shit because you don't know who's feeling what way. It could be a woman right now. I don't give a fuck. She could be sitting in here right now. The second she leave, say, blazee, blazee, he try to rape me, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. If we did it, niggas like, okay, huh?

Okay, we putting this on paperwork. Okay, okay. So if he next time he come, they gonna chase niggas like us down. Wow. They gonna chase us down till they figure it out. Wow. That's just what it is, bro. Best thing to do is stay solid, bro, and stay away from a whole lot of this shit.

But meanwhile, our president is out here grabbing him by the pussy. Exactly. You see what I'm out here grabbing him by the pussy. Exactly. You see what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie, that line was hard though. Right. But it's a lie. No, but I'm still giving credit for that. I'm not giving credit, I'm just saying, but when I heard that, I was like that was hard.

Like there you go. He could say that and say, he could say that and say grab him by the pussy and everything's okay. Can you imagine a black man saying that bro? No, I can't say that and say grab him by the pussy. And everything's okay. Can you imagine a black man saying that, bro? No, I can't say that publicly. No, I'm saying any black man. I'm saying it in my mind. Fuck it.

Any black man. Can you imagine him saying, grab him by the pussy? No. And not deal with that? No. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.

Fuck the, not Not gonna say that But His people Bringing him down But if you said that His people Would bring you down And our people

Would bring you down When he do that Nobody bring him down Or if it is Our people It's 20% bro Let's do a little shot to that this is Tiger ball man well gonna drink champs gonna that's right

that's not cool at all No more. Or everybody else in the motherfucker got to take a shot at this shit. Yeah, get a crowd of shots. Y'all got to understand what the fuck this shit is right here. What's that? This shit is an ancient Chinese secret. It's horrible, man. It's a drink champ's. It's a drink champ's tradition. Bottles disappear.

We just sit here. We have fun. See, I knew that was it. I knew that was it. Yeah, but it got worse. Like, we thought it was going to get better. It's before drink champs. This goes back. This goes back. before Dream Chances. This goes back.

This goes back. So now, have you got tired of fame? Because fame is tiring. Meaning, we all want to be regular sometimes. I had Young Dolph sitting in the same chair as you. And Young Dolph said, he actually,

this is word for word, almost word for word. He said he got shot because he wanted to keep being regular. He just wanted to go out there, like you said, he showed up to your video. Right. One deep. So he said to me, or to us, rather, to the room, he said he was walking around somewhere and it was just him and one dude, or to us, rather, to the room, he said he was walking around somewhere

and it was just him and one dude, or him by himself. And the dudes ran up on him. I think he was by himself. He said by himself, so... You telling me that he got shot? Yeah. Yeah, so what I'm saying is... I was wishing that I was there.

But has fame fucked with you? Yeah, in LA. Has fame fucked with you? Like, in LA. Has fame fucked with you? Like, you know what I mean? Like, sometimes, like, me personally, I always have to do certain things by myself just for me to keep my sanity. You know what I mean?

Have you went through that yet where you just, like... Bro, I'm going to tell you something right now i walk around bro with no security no nothing you come to la you come to every city you come to every city is i fuck with who i fuck with if i fuck with you in this city whatever he got over he got his hammer on him okay boom be doing that it's not the way that it's supposed to be, but it's what I'm used to. Right.

So, it be shit like I'm walking off the airplane. Motherfuckers be like, yeah, well, you know, you tired? You got a puffy face. Yo, shit, your eyes puffy as fuck. I got four hours of sleep. I came here today. I came straight from the club to come here from L.A. I got four hours of sleep.

I don't know what to do. A motherfucker doing all that. I'm not with it. Well, it's Snapchat. Yeah, but certain people don't get it because at the same time, you got to be OT Genesis. You got to be that nigga that. You got to be on. We see.

Yeah. So, you have to be on 24-7 for this shit. And you're like, damn, I just want to get, no matter how you feel. Yep. They looking like, man, we love you. Yep. Why would you treat me like this? Yep.

And I can see it because of me being another nigga on the outside be like oh Cuz I wear it up Bob. This is me. No, I'm like, oh, yeah straight weirdo I thought he was all I finally right in there shit like that You get I'm saying but it's like damn is like my nigga. I really broke. I'm really just like you Please know that this celebrity shit ain't all cracked up to what it is. You know what I mean? It's just a whole bunch of niggas with money.

I'm going to tell you like it is. I tell motherfuckers how it is. Man, we just a whole bunch of niggas with money. That's it. Same niggas. Dope, same niggas. We just a whole bunch of niggas with money. And whoever, whoever, whoever don't...

We watching it. Right. Whoever don't act accordingly, that's them. We just a whole bunch of niggas with money, but don't act like I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. It never got to you where you was like, damn, is this the life I chose? Like, it fucks me sometimes. A lot? It fucks me sometimes. A lot of times. So I'm like, damn. I want to.

But you know what, nigga? You did this. You did this. Yeah, you did. They didn't do this. They didn't do it. You did this. Then I sit here and I'm like.

Like, I take my moms out to eat every now and then. And a person would see me, like, with food in my mouth. I'd be like, yo, I'm not trying to disturb you. And I'm looking like I'm with my mom. And you know what you're trying not to do, but you're doing it. What you're doing. That's it. That's the first thing you need to say.

Hey, I'm being disturbing. You know, I don't mean getting in the way. I need my grandma. I'm not. Sooner or later, stop. I'll stop right there. You're getting in the way. You try not to get in the way, but You're getting in the way. You try not to get in the way, but you're getting in the way.

All right. Yeah, uh, you're famous, famous, uh, is the illest drug. Yeah.

I know we talked about, you know, we talked about, I heard everything about, all this, you know, weed or whatever, but, uh, Out of all the drugs

Fame Is Is the worst Because You can't ever get High enough on fame You can't OD on fame You can

You can You can actually I never heard that That's real shit But But Most people That's

That's how they wanna go out people, that's how they want to go out, is ODing on fame. Because, that's only because they want to feel accepted. They want to what? They want to feel accepted. So people that want to feel accepted, they OD on fame. You get what I'm saying? Like,

I was a nigga down the street. Before you knew I was a nigga down the street. So I was a nigga down the street before you knew I was a nigga down the street. So I was a nigga down the street and you was probably a pussy. And then you got some money. That's why I never understood. If we are dope boys, right?

I'm going to fuck you up right now. If we are dope boys, we all been getting money. We all had money way before boys, right? I'm going to fuck you up right now. If we are dope boys, we all been getting money. We all had money way before this, right? Right. Why you changing? Money will never change me, my nigga. I can have a billion dollars in the bank. I still be this same nigga.

The only thing that moves or operates different is the way that I move. You get what I'm saying? It ain't me. It's the way that I move. You get what I'm saying? It ain't me. It's the way that you move. That's it. Because you gotta be aware of him, him, him, him, him, shit like that. You get what I'm saying? So that's what you change.

The way you move is how you change. But you don't change. You stay true to who you are. You get what I'm saying? So, I mean, this fame shit, bro, this shit crazy. How did you feel when Beyonce used your song?

Beyonce used my song twice, and so that's why I even feel crazier. That's why I feel crazier. Because when she was cutting, I had to do the show in Dallas. I really wanted to do it in Houston because she's from Houston. But,

used Cut It all tour, I think the year, last year. So when she used Everybody Mad, and I put out Everybody Mad, I put it out, I was like, this I put out Everybody Mad. I put it out, I was like, this is a dope ass record. This need to be out, this shit dope as fuck. Every DJ, you know what every DJ said? Let me tell you what every DJ said.

Like, cut it? No, Everybody Mad. He said, damn, this shit, this is dope. This is dope, OT, but this ain't the OT that we know. This ain't the dick, the dick to cut it da da da I said bro y'all break records right y'all break records right this is your job to break records right if I'm telling you it's a dope record and you believe it's a dope record but you probably don't believe because you didn't do it cool alright cool whatever it takes somebody

like Beyonce who to go Coachella first date BANA and perform my shit we're working with you we check my we check them out Everybody mad And I'm sitting here like My nigga I was trying to tell y'all this this whole time And if You saying that to Atlantic? I'm saying it to Atlantic I'm saying it to DJs I'm saying

Bro I think This is me personally I think it's a dope record I don't know what it is personally I think it's a dope record I don't know what it is But I think it's a dope record So get behind the song Everybody just lollygagging Right?

The whole time, right? Shot a dope video Lit Video lit Now Beyonce do it Now every DJ got it And they set I'm sitting there like

You know what I'm saying And I'm sitting there like They like Cause the first thing They tell me was Yo O.T. We get it but This ain't the regular O.T.

We used to hear it. It's not. None of my records sound like each other. God damn, man. That's hard. That's hip-hop. None of my records sound like each other, and I'm not scared. That's why niggas, when niggas ask for an O.T. verse, they be like, we want that, that.

What you want? You want this, that, that, that, that. It's a menu. Because you know it's a you know it'll be what you know Do you know what I'm capable of doing I could do a lot of shit, bro So so so what do you want you? Push it which one does you want to cut? Everybody man which one with it Coco, you want... Everybody mad? What you want me to do? You want me to dig? You want me to...

What you want me to do? What you want me to do? Go anywhere. I can go anywhere with this shit. So who do you want to hear? It's hard. It's hard. You know what I'm saying?

And so it's like... But we blessed, man. So it's going to... I read somewhere that you stole a classmate's rhyme for a talent show. Yeah, that was like in the first grade, bro. In the first grade? Her name was Tamika. I swear to God, I remember that.

Wait a minute, you said Tamika? Tamika going to snuff you as soon as she sees you. I don't even know if she can see me anymore. But I'm gone. If I ever see her, then I see her. You got she can see me anymore. But I'm gone. If I ever see it, I see it. You got to give a double cheese. I went to a private school. I went to a private school like in the first grade.

Animal style from In-N-Out. I went to a private school in like the first, second, and third grade. My mama tried to put me in a private school in LA. Okay, so I need to describe this. Tamika came to you and she had a rhyme? She had a rhyme. I always wanted to rap, but I just to describe this. Tamika came to you and she had a rhyme? She had a rhyme. I always wanted to rap, but I just didn't know how. Because I was a fan of hip-hop.

And she had a rhyme. So what I did was... You took her shit. I had her rhyme, but she had it on a piece of paper. So what I did was I took her rhyme, and anywhere she said... Something where she said something, she said Tameka or whatever,

I just flipped it over and just put my own twist to it. What was your name? I was Robin. Your name was Robin back then? No, I should have been the way I was. The way I was. I killed it.

I killed it. That was a crazy way. You know what I'm saying? When I was moving and I you know I told us to store all her rhyme rhymes or whatever because she was It wasn't just one? Yeah. It was two. Multiple is two, but it was two. You should have written a song for you now, man. Yeah, but it was one of the main rhymes I was like, okay, cool. Right. You know what I mean? And I stole the rhymes and I said it, you know, at the talent show when you got into school in the classroom? Right.

I said her shit. And she was looking like. She was dead? Yeah. Oh, damn, God damn it. It was something like, Tamika Scar.

What she said, she was like, she was like something, playing, she was like something, playing with the boys, me and Tamika just making some noise.

Yeah, that's the way I am. That's the way I am. Chilling on the corner, just playing with sand. That's what she said to me. I flipped that motherfucker so fast. Yeah. And Genesis played with me.

Yeah, Genesis make some noise. That's the way I am. She looked at me like... I'm like... You know what I'm saying? But, you know, this is a part of our life, bro. This is how we grow up. Alright. Now you, at 18 years old, you got shot?

Who knows? I never got shot. It's a... 18... Pulled the trigger multiple times. Oh, no, no, no, no. This is what they talking about, right? This is what they talking about, right?

So, look. So, check this out. I never said this story for real, for real. Say it, buddy. So, the drink champ is exclusive? This is a drink champ exclusive. Anybody lift your hands up for the drink champ exclusive? Yeah. Like, Oga, Oga, Oga. Chambers a same right everybody lift your hands up for the drink champs. Yeah Olga Olga Olga

Let's go so love I Don't know me I was cool with Play even pressure off is that for pressure? Okay? I'm sorry. I can't say because it's too real. It's not incriminating nobody. That's what I'm saying. We don't send people to jail. We don't do that. Cool.

And then he got hit by some other niggas or whatever. Nah, I ain't gonna talk about it. It's Houdini. It's Houdini. I ain't gonna lie. I don't know.

I don't know. I looked at your face. I said, oh. So it's not a joke anymore. Let's take it back. Nah, we don't mind. We don't mind. We don't mind. We don't mind. We don't mind. I got other shit.

Well, listen. But listen. But check this out. But check this out. Check this out. Check this out. No, no. Check this out.

This is what happened. Yes. I was cool with the nigga. The nigga got hit. But the nigga that got hit, his homies, they know that i was cool with him and the that hit him didn't know that i was cool with him oh so when they came back retaliation is a must that's that's that's whatever can't nobody tell us nothing retaliation is a month. So a nigga come back and I'm on the block. And nigga coming back

to shoot for the nigga that just got knocked down. Not knowing that I'm cool with the nigga that just got knocked down. And the nigga that knocked him down is cool with whomever And is cool over here So it's like

There ain't no stitching So the nigga that got knocked down The nigga who So a nigga came over Came by our way Whatever Cool I'm chilling Whatever by way whatever cool

I'm chilling whatever I'm gonna tell you how this shit go I'm chilling the home girl like hey you know I've been hot even hot over here oh so so you know I'm saying you guys the chill yeah I'm straight come whatever whatever we straight I'm like, yeah, I'm straight, man. Let me trip. Whatever, whatever. We straight. There's some bitches who I really thought set us up. I swear to God, I thought these bitches set us up. To this day, oh, God in heaven, I want to mark these hoes out. Because I really thought they set us up. Shit got real. No, no, no.

No, no, no. I think they set us up. I swear to God, to this day. Uh-huh. They came, pulled up on me like, oh, this our party. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. You know what I mean?

Yelling. We know these bitches. Yeah, whoa. I'm like, oh, what's over here? Whoa. Nigga came up. Nigga, fuck. And he, you know what I'm saying?

Nigga started squeezing, right? Right. So, I'm on the driver's side. So imagine the bitch pulling up to you, like she your baby mama, she your bitch or whatever, and she pulling up to you. And you put your head, you put your arms on the window, and then right here, the window rolled down.

So you put it at the bottom. And you're looking in the back seat. What's up, boy? So that nigga like, nigga, fuck, boy. He said something. And all I hear is, niggas running. So the homie got on. The homie got on.

So he dissed. He dissed. he dissed the hood and then he, then he starts saying, you know what I mean? So I do this, I look to the right, I see the homie gone. I look to the left, I see the homie gone. I look through the glass, the back window, you go, and I see pants. Right here.

So I'm like, I look up. Nigga start pulling. Nigga, I swear to God, when he pulling, he pulling, this is the roof of the car. Because the bitch has got like a Corolla or some shit, right? So this is the roof of the car. This is the roof of the car. God the bitch has got like a Corolla or some shit, right? So this is the roof of the car. This is the roof of the car. God damn it, swear to God.

If I'm lying down in my sleep, God. This is the roof of the car. The nigga squeezing like this. The nigga, he had like a chrome, maybe like a chrome. I'll say he had a chrome line, but it was like a chrome maybe like a chrome i said he had a chrome line but it was like a pop like it was like a chrome like galaxy it was like some chrome shit nigga squeezing right he's squeezing like this click click click click the motherfucker going click click swear to god bro me even being negative i am i still don't know what it is, because it happens

so fast. So it's going, clink, clink, clink, clink, clink, and I'm looking at the nigga like this. And I'm like, he goes, clink, and I do this. He going, clink. When shit starts sinking in is when he said,

fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Click, click, click. I'm looking at the nigga the whole time. Doing it like this. It's still shock. It's still shock, bro.

It happens so fast that it's still shock, right? So I'm like this. He like, then he going, fuck! Click, click, click. Fuck! Click, click, click. Then I look up and I'm like, then he going, boom! Click, click, click. Boom! Click, click, click, click, click. Then I look up and I'm like, that's a snap.

He trying to kill you, car. I run to the left. Boom, when I run to the left, it's like five niggas jump out the car. Boom! I run to the right. Boom! Hit another fence. Boom! Hit another fence. Hit another fence. Hit another fence. Boom! I end up on right. Oh, oh hit an offense. Oh, you know the fence here another fence hit another fence. Oh, I would end up on like Nigga

It was homies. I would say what street was off, but let's just say the street we was on Let's say if it was one. I was on a You know say be against all back streets our backreet dogs all that hit the fences, right? Straight the fences whatever we go like what's up? Can you straight? Yeah? Yeah? Oh? You good up. Yeah. Yeah, I'm good. Oh, oh So I was looking for this nigga right for a minute. I Was looking for this thing for a minute right

Something like damn nigga try to kill me girl like this nigga for a minute, right? So I'm like, damn, nigga's trying to kill me, girl. Like, this nigga really trying to kill me. So one of my homies stayed in, not one of my, like one of my homies stayed in, the nigga was trying to get his shirt off. He stayed in his hood, right? So the nigga stayed in his hood Right So The nigga stayed in his hood The nigga was like Hey Y'all was at the

At the I'm like yeah He like Whoa I'm like yeah He like Damn God that's crazy

I'm like what happened He like The nigga told me Niggas got on He said It was one nigga That he had He said it was one nigga that he had. He said it was one nigga that he had. And he tried to get off.

And he said his clip wasn't all the way in. Tell him about you. Me. Me. He said his clip wasn't all the way in. He said he was hot. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Three weeks later, the same nigga got hit by the police.

He got a shootout with the police. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whatever. Bomb. I'm like, damn, cuz. He tried to off me like that. He like, cuz said his clip wasn't all the way in. He said he was mad what I

say yeah I saw that that's why I could repeat it that's one of my homies that was dead lived in his projects yeah I don't say nothing he's just tell you how crazy stories again god bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you.

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But he cool with us and he cool with Jeremy. So when he telling the story, when they telling the stories and he right there. Why was he clapping at you in the original? Because he thought that we did it. he thought that we did it.

He thought that I did it. Oh, not I did it, but he thought that my homies did it. But it's not my homies that did it. It just happened in the area where my homies is at. Why? You get what I'm saying? Why? That's how LA go, LA, Compton, Long Beach, whatever.

If a nigga get killed on Crenshaw, they gonna think the Six O's did it. Man, the neighborhood did that. We can come over there. That's Six O's,

that's Nipsey Hussle, Big Mew. Niggas be like, oh, the neighborhood did that. If a nigga killed, nigga killed,

nigga right there, nigga be like, oh yeah, we know who did that that's a politics with game bag this like yeah we know who did that over time it's like you don't know who did it it could be this nigga this nigga this nigga will be killed more you own on that turf and that's what it was God bless you man Making it out You know what I mean To where you at man

Because You know I'm from A totally different I'm from All gals are the same Yeah yeah yeah I'm from a totally Different thing

But I always You know One thing I give Gang culture Is The family Orientated Structure I always, you know, one thing I give gang culture is the family-orientated structure. It's amazing. I met her. I was in Seoul.

I was in Malibu. And this random white girl, she's like, I respect the gang culture. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, it was crazy. I'm in Malibu gang culture. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm a ballad boy, nigga. And I was like, what? I was like, what? She was like, yeah, they take care of each other. And that's the crazy thing is

a lot of people don't realize the family structure that a gang kind of does in store. That's why most kids feel like they can join into a game Cuz it's a love that they never had You know saying it's gonna be some bullshit. It's gonna be the love that you never had right you get I'm saying growing up

You know if you know no no no mom's no pops no Bob. I know about so it's like you gonna feel like This all I got. You know what I mean? This is all I got right here. No, that's real shit, man. So, hold on. I'm going to wait for EF. I'm going to wait for EF to come back.

But, yeah, man, that's some real shit, man. And, yeah, I just want to tell you, man, I'm just proud of you. Thank you, man. I've seen your grind. I've seen your hustle from the beginning. And you know what the thing is? You always kept a smile on your face. Thanks.

And that's beautiful. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Because those are the niggas not to play with. Yeah. Let me tell you, because when you keep a smile on your face, that's why no industry nigga never fucked with me, because I always smile.

And that means I clearly gave you the gig, and I'm a good nigga. Yeah? But if you come over here, then I'm going to be... But, listen, man, I want to tell you, man, But, listen man, I wanna tell you man, keep grinding, keep doing your motherfucking thing. Keep staying Versace down, keep staying, I don't even know what those Jewelry, that's a Patak. You for sure, come on.

I don't know, I don't know the You know your Jewelry, you know your Jewelry. I know your Patak, yeah I know it is, you got about string cats, you know I know my Jewelry. But, I ain't gonna lie, to lie. You are looking good. Make the new generation. Jesus Christ, man. I'm going to be honest.

Chi Chi, we're going to kick you. We're going to put you in the resource room. We're going to put you in the resource room room. I'm going to be honest. You can't even be outside. Yeah, yeah. But I just want to salute you one more time because your energy. And in this game, I'm going to be honest, bro.

You can pass me that lighter right there, please. Thank you. No, no, no. I'm going to be honest with you. My first album came out 1997, right? 96, 97. 97, no, the War Report. Oh, yeah, the War Report.

97. I feel like it's always 96. No, because you know why you heard LA LA in 96. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's the reason why. But, so that's almost 21 years, and I seen people come and go. I seen people get cocky.

I seen people, I seen it all. And I've seen people get cocky. I've seen people... I've seen it all. And I've always remained who the fuck I am. And that's what we should continue to promote because you can get money for the rest of your life if you're just a good nigga. If you're a good nigga. And that's the one thing I tell you about you, man. I don't give a fuck where we at. If you're a good nigga. And that's the one thing I tell you about you,

man. I don't give a fuck where we at. If you see me, you turn around, you stop, you be like, yo, what's up, Norby? And that to me, no, that to me is the realest of the real. Because that's what I do.

It's the same as actually, I don't give a fuck where I see anybody, I'm going to stop. I'm going to say what's up. Give them a five. I'm going to salute them. Whatever they do after that is on them. It's on them. They're going to 100% know that

I showed that love. From the moment I always seen you, you've always done that. You always show respect, you always had fun, had a smile on your face, and me personally, I wanna predict and wish you more success and more of you monkey foot niggas in doing the fuck you gotta do out here.

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