Drink Champs - Episode 152 w/ Pleasure P
Episode Date: December 15, 2018N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On this episode the Champs sit down with Broward County R&B veteran Pleasure P. They go over how he got his start in music, quarrels within the group Pre...tty Ricky, beef with Trey Songs and much more. Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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When you talk about R&B royalty, when you talk about a man who stayed down, he was a part of a group.
He got out of the group, stayed down, stayed strong, went and toured.
He just came from Australia, been all over the world doing what he got to do.
Staying here, on Love & Hip Hop, out there smashing everything.
You understand what I'm saying?
The man is a born and bred Miami.
I'm surprised he should have been on this show. If you don't know who we're talking about right now, we's a born and breed Miami. I'm surprised he shouldn't have been on this show.
If you don't know who we talking about right now, we talking about the honorable,
Pleasure motherfucking P Mason Hood!
Now, you got an album out right now, and I, it says Pleasure P Presents.
So when I think of that, I think compilation.
Is this a compilation, or is this? compilation or this is like a little compilation EP?
So during the process of recording my album, you know, I fucked around and ran into some talented people.
You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, you know what? When I when I do put out some shit or when I do, you know what I'm saying?
Get the get the opportunity to I want to share some light on this talent because the world needs to see. You got to try to put somebody on, you know, help in some kind of way. Yeah, it's a legacy thing.
I just took some of the artists that I
you know, that I've been working with and
yeah, that's what this compilation is about. Are they from around the country
or from locally? Some of them from here.
Some of them from other places too.
Okay. Yeah. So now, like you
I want to hear from the beginning.
Like, you being from Miami,
born and raised, you're a Miami,
you're not one of those guys that moved to Miami after.
You're a born and raised Miami guy.
So I want to take us to the beginning.
How did you even get started?
Was it a church?
Okay, so.
Because you're black, you're not Haitian.
So, so, so.
He could be a black Haitian.
No, I'm just saying.
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, because you know, you know, like...
I know what you mean.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And most black singers start out in church, god damn it.
So let me figure it out.
That's good.
Man, I mean, I...
Well, my mom and father, they used to be in like a band together, so I'm from...
Wait, what?
Your mom's and papa's in a group?
They used to be in like a band called The Rappers.
That's odd.
The band was called The Rappers?
Yeah.
That's odd.
It was young as hell.
My dad played the keys.
My mom played the keys.
So they would be like the Bonnie and Clyde of keys and shit. You know what I'm saying?
Back in those days.
I guess shit ain't work out with them or whatever, but it is what it is.
Yeah, I've just been around music since, like, all my life.
Rehearsals was in, like, when she had band rehearsals and shit, that was in the front room.
So I used to come out there and, you know, I've been doing this since I was young, man.
So you ever, like, try to, like, go through Luke?
Because, you know, Luke was like your pop daddy out there.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
See, back then, then you could even know Luke
as a kid yeah it really start happening for me I think one time I went to like
um this festival we got well used to have is called Arabian Nights Festival
yeah in Opa locker you know said so nigga what sounds dangerous so I got to sing for bone thugs in harmony
this guy named Kevin Cousins he wanted to sign me mom was like nah you don't
say you got to focus on school whatever the case may be so you know years years
after that broke you know the ground don't stop bro I'm saying the guy I was
I was Eddie was here cuz when we do all the marketing the purple. Yeah
These guys were grinding hard. They were doing all these school like shows like and if it was a part of the same Yeah, that's the only
They were all the same going to junior high and they were just relentless going out there getting it out
It was our own street team all of that. Yeah
Yeah, I don't want to get people in the group, they got social media network or something like that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's Bex.
But he got a social media company called Ad Wizard.
I'm promoting for you, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Called Ad Wizard.
Y'all check him out.
Ad Wizard?
Ad Wizard.
Ad Wizard.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So 2005 is when Pretty Ricky formed?
Yep.
2005.
And how was that?
You brothers grew up together or?
Well, to be honest, I was shopping my demo.
You know what I'm saying?
You was always a solo artist.
I was always a solo artist.
So I was shopping my demo.
I went to Ted Lucas at Slip N Slide.
And then I guess the next person I ran into was their father.
Because he used to work with Ted as well.
So, yeah.
Now, who's father?
Baby Blue and Spectacular.
That's not the original Pretty Ricky, the person. No, they had a group. That the original pretty Ricky the person on it. They had a group
Well, they had a pretty Ricky the person right there. Yeah
They called okay
Yeah, this how it went so it's pretty Ricky in the Mavericks Mavericks was our group
I'm saying pretty Ricky will rest in peace. He not you know here anymore
But um, he was just But he was another artist.
But his dad and him got into it, and he was like, you know what?
I invested all this money in Pretty Ricky for the song to be played on the radio.
So we kind of just took over the name, to be honest.
Yeah, because I thought it came from Martin.
Yeah, it did.
And Pretty Ricky, what they called him.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what they called him, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So, okay, you guys formed this group.
I'm coming from a group and being a part of a group.
I know how hard it is.
I know how hard it is.
But in the beginning, it had to be all.
It's magic.
It's magic.
It's like nobody experienced shit.
You never traveled really before.
My first time getting on a plane was going to New York to, you know, to get a deal.
I'm like 19, 20 years old at that time.
First flight, Delta Song, New York.
Landed, first time seeing snow.
So, yeah, it was like an adventure.
But, you know, with anything, when money and fame come, egos come.
But I don't think we had it that bad.
It's just how things was at the
time, like the father trying to put
imagine you grinding together and then
now the father now trying to put
one of the peers to
be over everybody and it's like, man, did we
grind together? Ain't nobody over nobody.
You know what I'm saying? So I think during
the second album, that's when we kind of
start, you know, having our differences.
But in the beginning, it had to be, that was your brothers.
When I think about even my thing, Cabona Noviega, the best part for me is when we were broke.
To tell you the truth, the money-
We was too.
I can't say it was sincere happiness I can say when we
were broke riding the train to the studio to get experience and everything
new is all good yeah you don't say like I got a lot and um that shit is that
shit is weird that's so weird weird shit like because because you are friends you
know I'm saying and when you when that shit happened so um wait wait wait a
second cuz I just noticed something you got got the Barrington Levy shirt?
Oh, yeah, I got the bootleg shirt.
How did you get that?
I was in Paris.
I told you.
So you know Barrington Levy
does the radio, right?
The legend.
Someone tagged us
and he was wearing this in Jamaica.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't even know
where that image came from.
But, so, I mean,
being in the hoop is just hard. Like, I mean, being in the group is just hard.
Like, I remember, you guys got to laugh.
You hit that weed way too hard.
Like, I remember seeing, like, Mobb Deep, right?
And remember, you would think Mobb Deep was just two members, right?
And I remember people trying to book Mobb Deep, Capone, and Noriega,
and Wu-Tang,
and almost never all of the groups showed up.
That's an amazing lineup.
I kid you not, but it never happened, though.
What I'm saying is,
it'll be five people from Wu-Tang,
Havoc will show up,
you know,
Capone's in jail.
It's hard to keep four people,
five people on the same mind frame
So
But in the beginning
How
How
How did you guys
Well we had
We had somebody
To help us
You know
Have somebody to
Kind of like
Enforce things
So
If somebody did
Some whole ass shit
He gonna call you
Out on your whole ass shit
We gonna have a meeting
And we gonna Either take it to the grass and fight,
and everybody cool again, or you know what I'm saying?
So it was like that from the get go.
So what was the moment where you realized
you were in the game for real, for real?
Shit, man, to be honest,
like when we did the Billboard Awards,
we performed with like Ashley Simpson.
And we did like a Billboard Awards performance.
That's probably the only award show that we performed on, but it was like, okay, this shit is serious.
Y'all like the gangster R&B niggas.
Y'all niggas was throwing y'all pants off and all type of shit on stage.
We sold.
And we're responsible for a lot of people having babies.
And, you know, all niggas had to do back in the day is just press play.
You know what I'm saying?
We got the rest for you.
Right.
Right.
And so you always wanted to be a solo artist or?
Well, yeah, I started off as a solo artist.
But, you know, me being in the group, you know, it wasn't even like it was a big bad thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I fuck with being in a group, too.
But when you get older, you know what I'm saying? Right. Checks different when like i fuck with being in a group too but when you get older you know i'm saying checks different when you're so low and people ain't waking up on time
and you on point and your brothers is not like come on bro i mean it's crazy man um it's an easy
job like you you got you got niggas like if you don't handle the business side you know i'm saying
all you got to do is show up and do your job. Show up to the studio.
Hook already on the song.
All you got to do is write your verse.
Go home.
You know what I'm saying?
When it comes to the show part of things,
man, we done been on the phone,
getting the contracts and everything already ready.
So all you got to do is show up to the show.
Do your job and go fuck your fans.
That's what you do.
Fuck your fans, nigga.
Go ahead.
That's it.
I think you guys need a manager.
I think I read somewhere that you guys don't have a manager.
You're like, yeah, I manage each other.
Yeah, you know, the thing about it is having a manager,
like picking the right manager is tough, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
It might feel like he's leaning towards favoritism or something like that.
Nah, it's just
They don't
Like okay
When you come back together
A lot of people
Don't believe in you
They say oh they done
They this they that
Until they get to
The first concert
And see oh shit
This shit sold out
Yeah we done dropped
No music in
God knows how long
But guess what
We got our D1 fans
And we selling out
Every venue
So I don't know
Like I spoke to
A few managers
But they didn't seem like...
Wait, so y'all self-managing
yourselves right now?
Yeah.
That's kind of dope.
It's dope, but it also
kind of makes them seem like
they're out of control.
So, wait,
is one person a spokesperson?
Just to be clear.
No, it's just,
we got a team.
Like, we got a team.
Okay, if you...
It's like, basically,
like, whoever brings
what to the table,
if you bring something
to the table, we're just going to sort it out.
It's not hard.
You know what I'm saying?
Some of these men just be acting like their job too hard.
They be making it seem like they do more than what they do.
And so.
Is it because you felt like you guys were taken advantage of at one point?
Nah, it's just, you know what, when we put it back together, it was just like, all right, we got some dates.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's do these dates.
And we did this Australian tour. You be in Australia a lot, we got some dates. You know what I'm saying, let's do these dates. And we did this Australian tour.
You be in Australia a lot nigga.
Every year.
Why not?
You know, Australia, New Zealand.
Australia get your businesses out there?
We go to Asia too, we go to the UK, we be all over.
Make some noise for him hitting the Australian business.
Love it, love my Aussie fans.
But nah man I mean
I don't know
It just kind of
Just came together like that
You know what I'm saying
That we haven't had
The opportunity to find
The right manager
Who actually got the time
To deal with
Everything that you know
Nah because
I know the struggles
You know me from
Not
Me being an insider
In the industry
But not being an insider
Knowing information I know how hard it is To know people you know me from not me being an insider in the industry but not being an insider knowing
information i know how hard it is to know people as are y'all all broken eating peanut butter jelly
sandwiches and then shit come around and one person has more opportunity than the next and i
know how how that shit affects people like it brings out the worst in people oh yeah
yeah because i ain't going to lie.
Even like, I don't remember, I won't say the members.
I remember just hanging with Wu-Tang, people from Wu-Tang.
And one member saying, man, you know, this dude.
And I was like, uh-uh.
I don't want to hear that shit.
Y'all think it's Wu-Tang to me.
Don't tell me no shit about this nigga.
I don't want to hear that shit.
That's how much of a fan I was.
I was like, uh-uh. They started telling me some shit.
Don't tell me what.
It be the way of venting.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And you guys, you guys went.
You guys were huge.
Huge.
That was on Atlantic?
It was all on Atlantic?
Yeah, it was all on Atlantic.
And then, of course, I went to Atlantic after that situation.
You did your solo, yeah.
Yeah.
You was working with Mike Kaiser?
Yep, guys.
Mike Kaiser.
Julie, Craig, Cal, Randall.
Did he take care of the bill?
Did he take care of the bill?
Because, you know, sometimes he'd be skipping out on the bill.
What bill?
Like, when you go out to eat.
Oh, Kizer.
He got to watch Kizer.
He got to watch Kizer.
He'll like, Kizer, Kizer.
You just beat him up.
Kizer never skipped out.
Shout out to my brother, Kizer.
Now, he never skipped out on a bill.
I'm fucking with him.
That's my dog.
I'm fucking with him.
I'm fucking with him.
So what is the difference between being on a major and being independent?
Well, to be honest, like, you had a lot of work done for you.
But for us, it was like me being at the label every day as a young man.
Like, all the people that I grew up with are in power now.
You know what I'm saying? So I got to see
what, you know, what the publicists
do, what the radio staff do,
and then going to each market and spending so much time
with all these people, I kind of got to
know the business just through that.
So you like independent more? I like independent
because I get to see
and control everything. I hate independent.
When I see my first independent check,
you know what I'm saying? From, that part is good. From Empire,
I say, well, shit.
Pick up Gazi.
Pick up Gazi.
Yeah, pick up Gazi.
Gazi killing it.
He's good about it.
Three out of five
guests on the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Goddamn it.
Make some noise for Gazi.
Get that money.
Goddamn it.
Gazi pay on time
and he's an honest person.
He's pay on time
and he's an honest person.
Great guy.
He came years ago
and showed me the game
before Empire was even,
you know what I'm saying?
I've been like down since day one, so yeah,
like when I see my first check and I say,
oh should I get this every month?
That's what's up, so now that I know the game,
it's that, like it's better.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little diva-ish,
because I hate to grind now.
I got grinded so much, like I've been in 20 years, so when a person, when you independent, and a person say to you, yo I got grinded so much. Like, I've been in 20 years.
So when a person, when you're independent,
and a person say to you,
yo, you got to grind it out.
You're like, grind what out?
Nigga, I grind the whole fucking world.
But independent, like you said,
the check is always bigger.
It's not always bigger
because the upfront check from the majors be crazy.
But you owe that money.
No, but I come from, I come from
the million dollar
bank loans.
When you get the million dollar bank loan,
then they don't win over budget.
I always go over budget.
I was the over budget baby.
Fuck that. When they caught me,
we forecast. Because I had to do
the shit over, nigga, for real.
And Capone was like that too but I
like it a lot after having experience with both and having to grind on an independent level so
much I prefer the majors I prefer to ride in the tour bus I prefer you know what I mean to
to be riding in tour buses yeah but you know what I'm saying, like when you really grind it, you gotta go back down to the band. You gotta go back down to the band.
You need action.
Yeah, exactly, it's all your money.
Think about it, everything is all in.
And I'm just, so I mean, I had both, I grinded both,
but if I had to pick it over, if I had a choice,
I would definitely go fuck with the Majors.
Like I even see Styles P, like Styles P came up here,
and he's super independent.
Super, super.
And guess what, he threw out an album with Dave super independent. Super, super. And guess what?
He threw out an album with Davey Simpson.
That's him.
Yeah, that's him.
I can't wait to tell him about himself.
That's great.
But I definitely prefer the major because of the headaches,
man, like after you've been in this game for so long,
you just wanna, you don't wanna butter your bagel no more.
You just wanna come in your bagel red paws.
It's already buttered and jelly.
So, but you prefer the independent.
Yeah, for now, yeah.
For sure, man.
I mean, I don't know, like me being in a situation
that I was in, and then seeing how a major
would just shit on you.
Oh yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Whenever they want.
Like me, I got control of how long I'm gonna be here now.
Not, it ain't up to nobody, and I'm in debt.
You know, like, they be having dinners on niggas' budgets, and I'll give you the wrong kind of shit.
Sure, you're just talking about the good side, when they love the artist.
Oh, yeah.
But when they don't love the artist, it's...
Oh, but that's with everything, though.
You know what I'm saying?
But no.
You know, one of the best stories, I think I've told it on here, I'm not sure.
One of the best stories was me hanging with Leo Combs one day, right?
Leo Combs invites me to his house.
I forget where it was.
On 20th and Park or something.
It's on Park Avenue.
I know that.
That's big shit for New York, right?
So he walks in the crib.
I walk in the crib.
I say, wow, Leo.
It's a beautiful house.
And this is the whole game in one sentence.
He said to me, make sure you're hot enough next year that I'll
invite you back. That's the whole game in one sentence.
Like homie you here because you hot. Yeah that's it. Like we're not friends. You ain't the homie.
That's it. You here in my house in this big beautiful mansion. That's the brutal
truth. It's the brutal. I love that up frontness. Like, that's like me
in the business
saying,
listen,
I'm going to fuck you
but I might fuck you
and you're going to
fuck your homie too.
And then she fuck your homie.
It's like,
you got to respect it.
She told you,
fuck her,
she's a hoe.
You got to respect it.
And that's what,
that's what the thing
that I do like about,
like when they up front,
like don't tell me
you're my brother,
don't tell me you're my friend
and don't tell me like,
you know,
we're going out to dinners
and we jet skiing together and then when it's time to drop me you
can't even get your phone phone if you are right but if you up front with me
you say look as long as you lit I'm gonna fuck with you when you not lit
I'm gonna fuck with the other leg
you don't agree not do, but what happens is
when you're not hot,
now you're tied to that label
because you have
a contractual obligation
and an overhead of money
that you owe to them
and you can't really
do your independent stuff.
You can't go and make it.
If you're not hot,
they're going to let your ass go.
Anyway.
Sometimes that fights you.
Sometimes you're a bill.
Sometimes you're a bill.
It's more.
Yeah, it's a tax write-off.
That's why they keep people there.
Yeah, they'll hold you.
You ever got an up pause?
Like in a situation they tried to hold you?
Yeah.
A couple times.
No.
So the label that I was signed to when I was making the transition of becoming a solo artist,
you know, niggas mad I left solo artist. You know, niggas,
niggas mad I left the group.
You know what I'm saying?
I thought I signed
just a group contract.
But the group was like,
nigga, I, you know,
I got rights to you
as a solo artist too.
They gave you like
the Wu-Tang deal in a sense.
Yeah, so I'm like,
hold on, wait.
Not even actually Wu-Tang
did the right deal actually.
I'm like 27 years old.
I'm like, hold on,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Yeah.
So they had you signed as a group and as a solo
right and you know I always like loyalty nigga that you know hey man signing on a dotted line
it's for the team and I guess in his head he's probably thinking yeah you know what I'm saying
that kind of shit is that why you went from uh Pleasure P to Marcus nah nah nah nah we'll get
into that okay that's a whole that's a whole You know what I'm saying? That's a whole,
that's a whole,
you know what I'm saying?
That's why I went from
NRE,
from Noriega to NRE.
And then he just popped me.
And then,
well, no,
that was to be
creative.
But,
prior to that,
Colleen Boyd had
owned the name
Capone and Noriega
together.
So I had to be creative.
And I was like,
alright, you know what?
NRE.
And they only owned it for like two years, so then it went back to me.
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Oh, so, so, so, so, yeah, so I guess when I decided to leave the group,
we wasn't on good terms or whatever the case may be.
This is me speaking my facts and my truth, you know what I'm saying?
I would do records, so I did a record with Birdman.
I don't know why I did that, sorry.
He's like, yo, $100,000, I'm going to charge him for you to be on a song.
So he was just doing things that made people say no.
Any opportunity that came my way.
Then I got a song on the radio called I Did You Wrong.
They was calling, trying to, you know, get me, you know,
you can't have my artist song on the radio.
It was like that kind of stuff going on, you know what I'm saying?
So I was stuck for a minute.
I had to pay probably like $400,000, $500,000
and, you know, paying for a litigator.
Then I split.
I gave them another $500,000, you know,
just to walk away.
So that was my first fucked up contract.
Jesus.
You know what I'm saying?
And you said they was charging people $100,000
to get you on the record.
To clear the record? No, like, so say you say, you know what, P saying And you said They was charging people A hundred thousand To get you on the record So to clear the record No he like
So say you say
You know what P
I fuck with you
I wanna do a record
With you whatever
Alright by the time
By the time it's time
For us to do
Matter of fact
I'll do the record
But when it's time
To handle the business
Them niggas
Just gonna make
People say no
So I had songs
With plies
People like that
That's in the streets
That I couldn't even
You know what I'm saying Because of that So some of those songs Just that's in the streets that I couldn't even, you know what I'm saying?
Because of that, so some of those songs
just went big in the streets,
but they were supposed to be singles,
but I was going through some contractual shit.
That was my first contract I was held up in.
God damn it.
Now, on Love & Hip Hop, you tried to take down Trick Daddy's
baby mama.
No, I did not.
What?
Wait a minute.
What the fuck was on the TV?
Where'd that come from, man?
I was like a little don't know.
That's his wife, man.
Yeah, that's what a little don't know.
You took her out, didn't you?
Now we're friends.
Yeah, it didn't look like that.
I'm being honest.
You know what I mean?
I didn't love her.
We're just friends.
We're just friends.
We're just friends.
We're just friends.
We're just friends.
We're just friends.
Okay.
I was worried, man. I was worried. I mean, listen. I'm part of the boys. They got to stick together, man. Just friends, okay. I was worried, man.
I was worried.
I'm part of the boys. They got to stick together, man.
But you know how it is, though.
Anybody I'm seeing, because I'm an R&B singer,
it don't matter who she is.
Yeah, you're smashing it.
I can't even have no homegirls.
You know what? We cool. We talking.
That can never happen when it comes to me.
Now, is that something that you love in the game because I mean now I'm married right
but you know I have through my dick a crack table congratulations I thank you
but I have through my dick on the crack table a couple of nights
I mean I'm not talking about now I'm talking talking about back then. No, no, no. Back then. Are you over, like, you know, the groupie shit?
Yeah.
Or it's still exciting?
We all get to that point.
It's over, bro.
I got some old.
I'm washed up, bro.
I can't even.
Like, some of the shit is like, okay, you've seen shit 20 times over and over and over again.
So it's like, all right, damn.
She really finna hustle me for the dinner.
She really thinks she like,
it's certain shit when you around these kind of girls
that I just can't tolerate no more, bro, to be honest.
Yeah.
And you was messing with them island girls, too.
They fucking for bags, they fucking for watches,
they fucking for clout.
Because you had a girl in the love of hip hop
from Jamaica, and then I seen you on The Breakfast Club,
you had the song called Change. You changed. hip-hop from Jamaica, and then I seen you on The Breakfast Club. You had this song called Change.
You changed.
About another girl from Jamaica.
Yeah.
I had a lot of Jamaican girlfriends.
That's crazy.
That means you like getting irons thrown at you.
Jamaican girls.
Wow.
See, okay, so I don't think every Jamaican girl like that.
God damn it.
God damn it.
Make some noise for Jamaican girls.
That's how you want a Jamaican girl to be.
I can't say that. You feel good about it. I don noise for Jamaica Girl. That's how you want to let Jamaica Girl be back down there.
Say that. You feel good about it.
I don't think every girl like that, but you know.
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But you, you,
and then they know who to throw an iron at
It's something that
They can get away with that
You know
But I mean obviously
That's not
We're not ever gonna get
To that point
To where you're gonna feel
That you can throw an iron at me
Yeah she'll be by herself
So fast
Right
You know
Right
That kind of thing
What you like more
Making the actual record
Or performing
The actual hit
When it's a hit?
I enjoy making a record.
Why do you think that?
Because I've been seeing your performance.
You're either going in on your performance.
No, performing is performing, but when you're making it, like, I write off of real life situations.
So, that's kind of like, nigga, that's what I'm really going through, so to hear it come through
dope as fuck,
and then when I play it for people,
obviously all of my songs are tests.
You know what I'm saying?
I'll take it to the strip club
and sit there with my homeboy
and just tell the DJ to pledge
to see if I get a real reaction
off of,
you know what I'm saying,
for people that never even heard
the song before.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I like that vibe.
You know what I'm saying? Now, boyfriend like that vibe. You know what I'm saying?
Now, boyfriend number two.
Are you promoting being the number one side nigga in the world?
Nah, see, let me tell you.
See, that's not the thing.
That was a misconstruction?
That was a mis...
It was for niggas that's fucking up.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to explain.
Nigga, you got to be on your job.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's another nigga...
I thought you was promoting side niggas.
No.
It's a person like me that come to the city. Scooper up.
Right?
I might just catch you at the grocery store.
At the hair salon.
You know what I'm saying?
Somewhere.
At Publix getting a sandwich.
Yeah, you know, just all of them.
Not even a club.
Not even a club, nigga.
Not even a club, nigga.
Might just compliment her.
You ain't even been complimenting her lately. They could go down to Chip club, man. Mike, just compliment her. You ain't been complimenting her lately.
They can go down and just say, yeah, Chipotle.
Let's go.
That's crazy because I was listening to it because every time we do a podcast, we have a playlist.
So we're in here.
You know, we never shot at this place.
Miami, Inc.
Rolling Loud.
Shout out to Miami, Inc.
So we're here.
Shout out to Miami, Inc. and get rolled out so we're here listen
I'm just listen and I was like oh shit. It's the first time. I'm getting
That he's promoting your focus, so you're not going to sign that you're saying if you're fucking up
You will be boyfriend number two. Yeah, that's correct. This is what it, man. Goddamn it. Niggas better get on their toes. Listen to that song,
Goddamn it.
He's clearly saying
he's fucking your bitch
if you're fucking up.
He's clearly saying that.
Don't get close to him.
Don't get close to him.
It happens to the best of us.
Shit,
we see that shit all the time.
We be like,
shit.
But I don't keep it under wraps.
You know what I'm saying?
Now,
on Love & Hip Hop,
I'm a big fan,
by the way.
Shay, that was your girl, right?
That's her name, Shay?
Yeah, yeah.
And then one of your members of Pretty Ricky
started working with her on the side.
What did that feel like for you?
Flaw.
A what?
A flaw.
A flaw, yes.
That's a down south, like a Miami road.
When you say you flaw as fuck,
that means it's kind of like weak
It's not honorable
That wasn't an honorable
Thing to do
If I'm dating somebody
And you supposed to be
My nigga
And you go and do
Business with someone
And you had people
At the time
Yeah
You know what I'm saying
Yeah yeah
That was kind of weak
You know what I'm saying
Did y'all work that out
Are y'all good
Nah I mean
Certain things can be
Worked out
Like I live by certain code.
If you don't follow certain, like, what we were talking about earlier,
you say, yo, you don't pass gas, or certain things you just don't do.
So I'm not going to do something.
I'm holding a fart right now.
You can't let it go.
You might walk away and you pretend to go, you ain't going to fucking monitor me.
You know what I'm saying? But same gonna keep a player But it's in codes man
You know what I mean
That I live by
And certain people don't
So we'll never get along
To that extent
You know what I'm saying
But if it's something respectful
I'm cool
We cool
You know what I'm saying
Like if it's business
If it's something that
You know what I mean
Like we cool
But on a personal
You know
I'm already
You know
So that was real this is not no stage
Like that
Stage things
That's the room of love hip-hop is like yeah, you think that they stage it I think I mean I think I think they editing
I'm okay. Yeah is what people they can create a storyline through the edit. No, you can't create a start on through an edit
But however, all right, there was one situation somewhere where you probably was right So they can create a storyline through the edit? No, you can't create a storyline through the edit.
However, all right.
I can put you somewhere where you probably wasn't. Right, it was one situation on the show.
They got me looking like the biggest cheater in the world,
and that's not the case.
Some shit that was shot two different days,
it was something totally different.
When I saw that shit on TV, it looked like,
nigga, she cooked dinner for me.
I definitely thought she was cheating.
In lingerie at the same time.
They got me.
They got me.
At the same time.
At the same time now.
Oh, that wasn't real?
I'm meeting the other girl.
Like, come on, fam.
Cool.
Nigga, what kind of player?
But you had the Jamaican girl outside.
If you really a player, what kind of nigga going to leave a girl in lingerie cooking dinner while he's seeing the other girl?
Wouldn't you want to see them both? You probably going like, you know, you know, make sense, baby
I see you tomorrow at this restaurant cuz you ain't give me no ads tonight
So don't say I'm gonna go over here eat this food beat that up
And then you know if that was the case, but you know, they editing but it's TV the TV you gotta accept that
You gotta accept that it's TV not in the sense of this fake, but it's TV like, you know, they gotta do a job
Yeah You are still believing love um yeah i do okay but i'm you know i don't see a lot of it like nowadays i don't see a lot of love in this world like when it
comes to women i don't know they're different now bro totally don't be out here hurt now. I heard all right. Yeah
I'm just gotta but I'm just not a believer in the product that I've got to see him
I got a friend. He's he's like I want to say his niggas. He's famous, but he's probably the hardest nigga out there
He can't only be so
No, just a the bitches you meet. It's a lot of them though. It's a lot of hoes, yeah.
Come on man.
It's a lot of them.
You can't go to take one and expect her to be, you know.
She might get the best woman in type one.
She might be on the prospectus.
Matter of fact, you know how many girls I know who they had,
like they had that portion of their life for whatever amount
of years those were?
What, strippers?
Yeah.
Strippers?
Are we talking about strippers?
Yeah, we're talking about strippers.
All right, cool.
Let's go.
Now they wives.
They business owners.
They might be the best motherfuckers.
They cool.
They know how to give you
a good time.
You know what I'm saying?
Like an exciting time.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a lot of them out there.
You know what I mean?
I like ambitious women.
I like women that go out
and get their own.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't trying to be...
You know,
I don't want another daughter, bro. You know what I'm saying? Well ain't trying to be, you know, I don't want another daughter, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, not that I have a daughter, but you know what I mean?
That you know her.
If I have a daughter, you know what I'm saying, I don't want to have two daughters.
Because, you know, everybody got like one kid that we don't know of.
Like everybody, I'm just saying.
I hope not.
I'm just saying.
Listen, I've been to crazy hood parties, man.
You guys were running trains.
You guys were running trains. You guys were running trains.
I'm crazy.
You Miami boys.
I was over there.
I came by.
It was an air route.
It was wild.
Let me tell you about Miami.
Y'all niggas had the least respect for women in the world.
That's not true.
I don't believe that.
I kid you not.
Next to LA niggas?
Y'all was the first niggas
calling girls bitches
to they face though.
Like everyone would say
call them a bitch
but not to they face.
That's how y'all
told them.
You gonna put that on us?
Yo, I swear to God
Miami brought that to the game.
L.A.
No, I swear to God
it was Miami.
I'm gonna say L.A.
It was the gold fronts
and the niggas out there
going,
you got one of them
beauty shorts.
Two shot bitch?
No, no,
two shot was a rapper doing it.
This was niggas in the streets, like live in the streets.
Like in New York, we don't call women bitches.
What y'all call them?
We call them whatever, but not bitch because they got brothers.
What y'all call them?
We were respectful in New York.
The first time I ever seen someone call a woman a bitch was in Miami.
I kid you not.
What up, bitch?
What the goals are?
That's the wrong accent
Number one
I mean in my mind
It came out wrong
But in my mind
And
I ain't gonna lie
And
Y'all the first motherfuckers
Who made strip clubs
Like a hangout
No strip club is a culture
In Miami
There's nothing wrong with that
Listen
I dated a girl in LA
And she did not like me
Going to the strip clubs
But I'm like bro
Like
That's like
Sometimes we ain't even Paying attention to the girls Yeah my girl from me going to the strip clubs, bro. And I'm like, bro, like that's like, sometimes
we ain't even paying attention to the girls.
Yeah, my girl from LA, she hates the strip clubs.
We just go to listen to music and have a drink and eat.
Would you ever
got caught smashing in the strip club, though? Never,
nah, never. You look like
the, like, I'm gonna deny everything.
Nah, I never smashed
in the, I mean, smashed up at home
and, you know what I mean? For the strip club, but not at the strip club. Yeah, I was scared to smash in the strip club. The strip club, that's A anything. I mean, I smashed stuff at home and you know what I mean? I'm in the strip club, but not at the strip club.
Yeah, I'm just getting smashed at the strip club.
Come on, man. I'm in the strip club. That's any gig shit right there.
I ain't gonna lie.
I be feeling like, you ever see the movies where, you know, niggas be in the back taking pictures of you or recording you or some shit?
Like, nigga, I...
They got the cameras in the joints, yeah.
No, I'm just saying, but you just never know. Like, I would never just go ham in a strip club.
That's just not, you know what I'm saying?
That's the one thing that I do, like, love about our generation is we didn't record everything.
Like, our memory, like, the shit that we were doing.
If there was Instagram back then, the shit that we were doing in a club, like, none of us would have a girl.
Rich would be like, I ain't fucking with you. I've seen we were doing in the club. Like, none of us would have a girl. Rich would be like,
I ain't fucking with you.
I've seen what you did
with that bottle.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, boy.
I'm just saying.
I've seen all that shit.
I've seen it at the
look parties.
At the look parties.
Shit, if you met me
at the pack jam,
they would have had
a fucking camera.
Yeah, Instagram.
And I say that
to the young brothers.
I say, you know, because a lot of people get on, like, the Young Brothers.
They be out here wilding and stuff like that.
And I'm saying, and they're like, yo, these dudes are clout chasing or they're trolling or whatever.
And I'm like, we didn't have a chance to clout chase.
Not to say that we would do that, but I'm just saying, we didn't have that option.
When I was, you know, going crazy, I didn't give a fuck about posting it on taking
My uncle my uncle told me the other day. He was like yo, you know how corny we were Why was and I said why he said you took me over the world around the world three times and I've got not one
Bitches approved it. That's true
That was the last thing he was thinking about. Now, get the camera, wind the bitch back.
I'm not going to call that camera.
Now,
that's the first thing you do.
You go somewhere,
you take a picture.
I'll tell you a funny story.
Once I was in Amsterdam,
and
this is the first time
I realized you could smoke.
Smoke there,
and the police officer came in.
So he's like,
yo, officer,
can you
can you take a picture with us? He's like, sure. I can't do it in a coffee shop, though police officer came in. So he's like, yo officer, can you take a picture with us?
He's like, sure, I can't do it in the coffee shop though.
He came outside, so we go outside and take the picture.
And obviously this is the Polaroid days,
like this is the, you take it and you gotta bring it
to the thing.
And when we came back, we had a picture of an officer
lighting a joint, but we was in front of a dildo store.
So it was like 1, a dildo store.
So it was like 1,200 dicks behind us.
Needless to say, that picture never got posted.
But that's, I don't know, I went somewhere with that. So, so,
so R&B, right?
R&B used to be like,
it used to be like super soft, right?
And then there came a time where you could tell
it was street people started to sing.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like Jodeci.
Like Jodeci.
You looked at Jodeci, you was like, they good.
Yeah, yeah.
You looked at New Edition, you said,
somebody getting high somewhere.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, what was that time like for you?
Because all of you brothers, especially Pretty Ricky,
all of you brothers seem like y'all come from the hood.
Y'all seem like y'all grinded.
So how is that, like, you know, you being just like rappers,
but your music has to cater to the females.
So how is that balancing those two worlds?
I don't think it's hard.
You don't think at all?
If you're being yourself.
I never try to be something I'm not.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't go around like, nigga, because we from where we from.
Nigga, we, you know what I'm saying?
Something happy, you just find out how we handle the situation.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think it got nothing to do with it.
I don't like drinking alone, though, man.
What's up?
Oh, I'm drinking, brother.
I'm with my second one.
I'm with my second one.
I've been doing a world of beers.
This is Mexican.
This is Mexican.
He was a hater yesterday.
We ain't taking no shots.
No, no.
I'm the real drink champ right now, dog.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I'm the fucking real drink champ, man. I'm telling you. I'm the real drink champ right now, dog. No, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm the fucking real drink champ, man.
I'm telling you.
I'm starting to feel it a little bit, too.
This is why I know pleasure beans are real.
No, no, no, not yet.
Not that one.
Not that one.
All right, we can do that one.
No, I just feel like it.
Okay, okay, I'm on camera.
No, no, let's do Tiger Ball.
Yeah, let's do Tiger Ball.
Let's do Tiger Ball.
Relax, man.
What are you doing, man?
Tiger Ball.
Let me tell you something.
Every time I see you, you're out.
You have a smile on your face,
you have good energy.
That's how I know you're dangerous, though.
Because any nigga that smile
and then take care of the bill,
they're dangerous people.
That's the good point.
I'm just keeping it real.
Because you know why?
That gives off the energy of
I ain't fucking with nobody,
so please don't fuck with me. Yeah. That's a good energy to have. I have no fucking with nobody So please don't fuck with me
Yeah
I had no problems
I had no problems with nobody man
You know what I'm saying
Most of the time you're going to see me
You're going to see me by myself
Right
Every now and then if it's like
Flo or certain niggas
I already fucked with
You're going to see me
But most of the time
I'm by myself bro
I pull up here and y'all by myself
You know what I'm saying
Yeah so you're the Empire Party
You're by yourself
By myself
Yeah yeah yeah
I hang around a lot of people, man.
And that's from experience?
I mean, bro, growing up, when I did Juvenile Time, I was by myself.
When I made it and I became successful, I took care of like 20, 30 people, you know what I'm saying?
Going to the clubs, spending money.
When times got hard, none of those people was around. So I get it.
You know what I'm saying?
I got my very couple few people I fuck with and trust,
but you know, now that shit hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
When you try to provide a situation for people
and help them better themselves or whatever,
and they don't appreciate it
and they kind of use the situation for what it was
and then now you're part of this camp now.
So when we now go to the club Live now
Or we go to certain clubs
You look around
And you're like
Damn
That nigga used to be around me
That nigga was at my house
Fucking
Using
Using
Using my
You know platform
Or whatever for that
This nigga
I mean that's just how it is bro
So
I don't be around too many people man
Because of that
Alright
Damn That's deep They don't bring nothing to So I don't be around too many people, man, because of that. All right. Damn, that's deep.
They don't bring nothing to the table.
They just want to come through these doors and be on my connection.
You know how it go, man.
So no more of that.
Is there anything in the game that you feel like you did that you could have did better?
And if you had a chance to do it over,
you would do it over?
Damn, I would do a lot of things over.
Like when that rumor came out about the child molestation
and all that kind of shit.
All right.
If I would have just,
see, we come from an era where
back then you was media trained.
So whatever your publicist told you to say,
whatever not to say.
Be quiet.
Yeah, they say, yo,
this is how we need to handle this,
whatever.
So I just listen.
But if I would have just been me,
you know,
I would have just spoke my mind
and said who did it,
all kinds of shit.
I would have handled it
like totally different.
That shit affected my life.
It affected my livelihood.
It affected my son's life.
It affected a lot of shit.
I mean, I'm strong enough, I stood in the paint.
But I'm able to talk about it now,
because I got more understanding for life,
and I live my truth and things like that.
But come on dawg, it's because a nigga winning,
that wasn't necessary, dawg.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So that would, you said you would address the woman
straight on, if you could, yeah.
I would've cussed her.
Because sometimes, because sometimes when a person doesn't address it, it kind of makes you look guilty.
Like if somebody tell me right now, Nori eats out the garbage, right?
And if I don't come and I show the motherfuckers that I eat out Mr. Chow's,
people automatically think that that's the truth because I didn't address it.
So you think that's the truth because I didn't address it. So you think that that's I dressed it before I dressed it in a way of
No understanding in terms of like they told me what to say like, okay, this is what you should say
And this is how you you know, I mean nowadays artists that come on now
They don't have none of it. They just think they cut like they you know, you know more artist development
They're like you have the same hours with a fucking, you know, I'm't no more artist development, nigga. Like, you ain't have to sit hours
with a fucking, you know what I'm saying,
publicist and learn all these things
and things like that.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, I would have definitely
addressed that differently.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, for sure.
And how about,
and how does that affect the relationship
with Pretty Ricky Salo?
I don't know if you know,
answer that question, but hold on.
I don't know if you know, but we question, but hold on. I don't know if you know,
but we celebrate people's lives,
we celebrate their careers,
we celebrate,
we give them their flowers
when they can smell them,
you know what I'm saying?
They drinks when they can drink them,
and they thoughts
when they can think of.
You know what I mean?
Salud,
to you, Pleasure B,
congratulations on the project.
God damn it, Salud.
What the fuck was that?
Exactly.
Come on, man. We can get 12 for this shit.
Yeah, that was terrible. That was absolutely...
This shit put age on me, bro.
What was this, bro?
That's Tiger Ball.
That's Michael Hyatt Bing Ball.
Yeah, Michael Hyatt Bing Ball.
Alright, guys, what was the question?
So I said, how did that affect your relationship with you the tiger bowl, how did it affect you?
In effect it affected in a lot of ways
I think I heard somewhere that you said that one of them created that room. Yeah, it's true. Yeah
It's a fact. Okay, but I got past it
I mean to be able to still now be with niggas on TV
and still give good music and things like that.
But yeah, that's the God honest truth.
It happened.
I moved past it, you know what I'm saying?
But when it comes to now me doing the things that I do for the group, okay,
every time I do a Pretty Ricky show, I got to cut my, I got to, I take a loss.
Yeah, me too.
Because of what I,
you know,
because of what I make
as a solo artist
versus the,
so I make the sacrifice
for that to do a show,
but I don't feel like
it's appreciated.
or in fact,
Like pairs in the group?
Right.
Or the fact that
I forgave y'all
for doing something so crazy
because the average person
wouldn't.
But you don't think
it was all of them
that curated the room? It was one. It wasn't all. It was just one? You don't have to say average person wouldn't. But you don't think it was all of them that curated the room?
It was one.
It was just one?
You don't have to say their name.
I think it was two people.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, it's all good.
You know?
Right.
But, yeah, just the fact that all that shit, man,
it kind of, you know, make me feel like,
damn, that's a hard fucking thing to forgive.
But I did that.
You know what I'm saying?
I lost millions of dollars.
I had to fucking, you know, when you move up and you got to downsize, I had to downsize.
See things for what it is.
People came.
People went.
Then fucking keep working through it all.
You know what I'm saying?
Find a way to record,
find a way to get into a distribution,
find a way to just, you know,
keep doing shows, do other businesses,
like keep myself level-headed,
then find a way to...
You think that humbled you to a certain extent?
I've been humble.
Okay, okay.
You know what I'm saying?
I've been humble.
I'm just, I'm not the kind of person that,
that I don't really talk to everybody 24-7.
I'm not trying to be accepted.
Like, if I fuck with you, I fuck with you.
But I ain't no ass kisser.
Like, I don't care about none of that kind of shit.
I don't care about what you got.
Like, I'm happy with what I got.
So I don't really care about what you got.
You feel me?
That's why I can walk around free of it.
What up, bro?
That's just me.
But it's not to be, like, you know what I'm saying?
I don't need nothing from you.
I never once said, yo, man, I need to be on your show, nigga. I'm trying. Nah, but if I like, you know what I'm saying? I don't need nothing from you. I never once said, yo, man, I need to be on your show, nigga. I'm trying. Nah, but if
I did, you know what I'm saying? It'd be different, but we cool, but we cool. I don't even have
to come on this. Like, we cool because we cool. I respect dawg. I met him in the past,
bro, and he was just a humble dude. Cool as fuck. And yeah, like some people I met in
the game. I mean, I tell you a couple of times, people told me I shouldn't be so humble.
People was like, man, you know, you're accolades.
And my father, my father walked in the building and he knew the president of the building and he knew the janitor.
My father would know everybody.
So that's what I took from him was and he treated everyone the same
yeah that's so when a person tell me that yellow man you know you gotta stop
being so humble you know who the fuck I'll be like man fuck that shit like I'm
who I am you know I'm saying and I feel like you get more hunt they get more
flies with honey than you do with shit that's it that's the old person saying somebody said that. Your pops told you that. That's my black side.
He said it in Spanish.
He said it in Spanish.
But, yeah, so I admire
that about you. You know what I'm saying? All the success
you had. And the thing
about it is, we all
got an insane moment. Like, we all
like,
you have to catch yourself. Like, you have to
literally catch yourself.
What was the time you think you went Hollywood?
Did you ever think you went Hollywood?
I felt like my friends thought I went Hollywood because I was growing.
You know what I'm saying?
We had Miami on lock.
I started a record label with Brian McKinney called Swag Entertainment.
So we did the craziest parties and all of that stuff here right we
had we had the craziest parties here in Miami so I ventured out and I moved to LA by myself
and I say it's time we got to take over LA too and then the next thing was have our presence
felt in New York you know I'm saying but um I moved to LA and. and I met some people in L.A.
And we kind of like just had our thing.
Like we was running Young Black Hollywood.
Like you could ask anybody about a Pleasure Pee House party or just during that time.
Sounds like a lot of sex.
You can ask Clue.
You can ask anybody that was around, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you know, Chris Brown, Trey Songz.
Everybody used to be just whatever.
Just chill. Your R&B niggas get all the pussy. Just make some noise, everybody used to be just whatever, just chillin'.
Y'all R&B niggas get all the pussy.
Let's make some noise for them people.
Everybody should be over there chillin'.
You can tell niggas is hatin'.
You see that clap was not the same on all the other claps.
Niggas was like, word, nigga, my girl.
Nigga did not get that clap.
Because all y'all R&B niggas, y'all be going through it, bro.
Y'all get a lot of bitches though'all be going through it So during that time
You know saying by the time my niggas from over here came to the crib in LA cuz when I first move over there
I had a condo in the Palazzo like a penthouse little one bedroom just chillin cheese and I moved to Bel Air States and
Where's Khalifa live in my old house now?
But um And I moved to Bellaire States and West Khalifa live in my old house now I'm saying but um we got that crazy part of a flaw
When my arm When when when Miami came to LA there was a problem. Oh you forgot about your niggas you you how do but it was like
Nah nigga now you got LA niggas in my mini cuz you know how much money I think this can make together if y'all
You know I'm saying that's how I was thinking.
I was thinking of a bigger picture, but they couldn't see the, you know what I'm saying?
So, of course, they would say that.
You think they were right or you think you were right?
I respect how they felt to their understanding because not everybody has the vision that I have.
So, you know, I'm going to leave you like that.
All right.
I'm not going to lie.
L.A. would do it to you
because you walk outside
on a sports thing
and you're just reading the paper
and walking this dog.
Like, L.A. will change you a little bit.
It does.
It does.
It does.
It changes a lot of people.
Especially if you're living in the L.A. life.
I wasn't one of them people
you could change, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I know who the fuck I am.
I know where I'm from.
I know how far I came.
Nigga,
like,
there's no way
LA can change me,
you know what I'm saying?
Which is why
I had to move back home
after three years
of being there
and seeing,
you know,
seeing what it was,
like,
seeing what it is
and what it was.
Like,
Miami is the better place,
you know what I'm saying,
for me.
And how about movies?
Were you into,
like,
trying to get into acting?
I did one movie.
My nigga Stevie G and Charles S. Dutton.
Charles Dutton used to play rock.
He had a show called Rock.
Back in the day, ball-headed dude.
He was on Menace Society.
Oh yeah.
He had a stroke.
He's a big actor.
I'm a man for menace society. I was about to say for menace society. But Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a stroke. He's a big actor. Yeah, yeah. I'm a man for... Yeah, yeah.
I was about to say for Menace Society,
but yeah, yeah.
The nigga,
his son was the Muslim
in Menace Society.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so that guy,
freaking Tasha Smith.
Yeah, Sharif.
Tasha Smith was in this movie.
Wasn't it Pinky?
You know,
Clifton Powell.
A lot of people,
Trina, Meek Mill.
A lot of people was in this movie Meek Mill, a lot of people
listen to this movie,
it's called
Must Be the Music.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's like
the same storyline
as Empire, I swear.
But I stayed in Philly
for like a month
and we shot this movie
and it never came out.
You know what I'm saying?
Then Empire came out
and it's like,
I swear to God,
on everything I love,
it's the same fucking storyline.
Charles had a stroke
or whatever,
but I don't know.
I like doing music better.
Music money,
unless you like
doing a Black Panther
or one of them
big time movies
or something like that.
You know?
I never got the opportunity
to do nothing like that.
But you enjoy
doing reality.
I don't.
You don't enjoy it?
No.
Damn.
I don't.
I like doing music.
I came in the game
to do music.
Wow. But the fact that you got to do reality to have I came in the game to do music. Wow.
But the fact that you got to do reality
to have a platform to be able to sell music now,
you know what I'm saying,
especially R&B music,
it's kind of fucked up.
You know what I'm saying?
Look at what R&B is now.
You know what I'm saying?
It's definitely changed.
And, of course, like, with our genre,
you don't have a lot of artists collaborating
and supporting one another,
so it's even more fucked up.
You know what I'm saying
everybody is
no you gotta be
that number one nigga
it ain't like
when you see
Keith Sweat
and Teddy Riley
and everybody
got the thing
and they kinda support
them niggas still
to this day
touring together
making money
but you know
you can't get
Omarion
Mario
Pleasure P
Sammy
fucking
you know what I'm saying
all of the Bobby Valentino all of the niggas that I came up with you can't seem Omarion, Mario, Pleasure Pete, Sammy, fucking, you know what I'm saying?
All of them.
Bobby Valentino, all of the niggas that I came up with.
You can't seem to get niggas on the same accord.
Be like, my nigga, stop trying to be the number one nigga and support the fucking genre.
That's most important.
You know what I'm saying?
I heard you say that on The Breakfast Club as well.
You said that Omarion was doing shows and telling people that you can't book the other B2K members.
Oh, no.
He did Love & Hip Hop.
It's like in his contract.
Nigga, don't bring that Razz B on here.
You know what I'm saying?
Me, when my manager, when he got the call for Love & Hip Hop for just me, and it was
like, yo, can we da-da-da-da-da?
It was like, let's go.
It wasn't no hating. It wasn't no nothing. It was like, let's go. There wasn't no hating,
there wasn't no nothing,
it was like,
let's go,
that's the opportunity,
let's go,
let's do an album,
do it,
let's,
you know,
let's work,
there wasn't no hating.
Alright,
that's beautiful,
man.
But anybody,
record come out or whatever,
you're gonna see,
if you look on my Instagram,
half these niggas,
I support,
but when my shit come out,
they don't support,
I don't,
I don't,
I don't look for nothing in return,
but it'll be good for
the genre.
Imagine if every R&B artist supported each other, how
big the genre would be.
But everybody complain, R&B dead, R&B this.
But they don't do nothing to really change it.
What was that tour?
It was Tank, that R&B artists all got together.
Tank supported everybody.
That's my thought.
Tank, Tyrese?
Tyrese?
Yeah, them niggas can keep it together.
Them niggas got beat.
They didn't go all the way through that tour? Yeah, they got beat. They didn't even keep together. He's got people didn't go all the way
Yeah, nothing I've been doing it in that
Tempted to do that. You're gonna have what what the Tyrese do movies so it was like
You know it was hard Tyrese and tank caught beef. They say Tyrese is like in Hollywood. Yeah, they said
That's that's that point. I ain't even seen Tyrese and tang wedding. You know I'm saying which is why I'm afraid
Maybe he was busy. I don't know. I fuck with both of them.
Now, what's your favorite thing
about the game? Like, being a part of R&B,
hip-hop? My favorite thing is,
I don't know, man, I just like the musical part. I like the fact that I can make music
and no matter if a person, you know, like, people don't know, man, I just like the musical part. I like the fact that I can make music, and no matter if a person, you know, like,
people don't like people because of religion,
or because of color, or because of whatever,
but, like, music is a universal language,
so when I go around the world,
and I see different people, you know what I'm saying,
rocking to a nigga that's from Carver Ranchers,
you know what I'm saying, like, from nothing, nigga,
okay, I wrote this song when I was in juvenile, locked up, and
now you fucking, you know, fucking with the record, like, that's the biggest shit.
That's the biggest power for me.
Yeah.
Wow.
Outside of being able to pretty much travel and, you know, go to places that you can go
and eat where you want to eat and, you know, just live a little, you know, live a little
bit.
Okay.
I asked you what you think. Now live a little, you know, live a little bit. Okay. I asked you what's your favorite.
Now I got to ask you what you hate.
I hate the fake shit.
I hate clout chasers.
I hate the name droppers.
I hate the people that don't want to work as hard as we work or make the sacrifices
that we make to make shit happen, benefiting off of the things that we work hard for.
I hate the fact that
you can hear something
about somebody
instead of you calling dog
and being like,
yo, you know what I'm saying,
what's what?
You know, you don't do that.
You just run with it
and, you know,
you bash and you bash
and you bash and you,
you know,
the more bad people,
the most bad shit
people said about me,
you stopped a lot of checks.
You know,
you stopped from feeding my son.
You stopped from,
you know, a lot of different shit. So, I just hate, you know,
that kind of shit. It's not genuine. Like,
if I fuck with you,
it's not one time, like, all the people that I
fuck with, it's not one time I went to your
city and never called you and be like, yo, nigga,
I'm here, nigga. You know what I mean?
Like, that's what, you know, real
family do all. You know what I'm saying? So,
it's a lot of shit like that that I really don't like.
The fact that niggas go from clique to clique to clique.
I wasn't raised that way, you know what I'm saying?
But for niggas to be even, say they real, but you accept the niggas that jump from clique to clique to clique.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I look at a lot of niggas different, you know what I'm saying?
A lot of that shit just played out.
And then, you know, I don't know, I can go on forever about that kind of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And you smashed one of Trey Songz' bitches, right?
That's why y'all have beef?
Nah, we have beef.
I'm going to tell you why we have beef.
I'm going to tell you.
That was the only one.
I'm going to tell you why we have beef.
So we were signed to the same label, Atlantic Records.
Atlantic, okay.
So when Trey coming up, Pretty Ricky's the biggest shit.
You understand what I'm saying?
But we always embraced Trey.
Anytime Trey came to Miami, whether it's me bringing girls, whether it's me, whatever, whatever, you know, it was always love.
He would come out here a lot.
So, you know what I'm saying?
We would go to clubs together, all kinds of shit.
So, it was just one particular time on the screen tour.
When I came to his city and called him, I didn't get the same kind of love.
And he's from Virginia?
Yeah, we came, the tour went to Virginia.
I ain't get that kind of love. So that's where it started at.
Then I hooked him up with this girl
named Helen, which is like,
she's like still one of my best female
friends to this day. Like, it was
like that, like, nigga, I'm in LA, you know anybody?
That's how new he was at the time.
So we get with Helen and... That's how new he,
is that what? Like, that's how new he was,
like nobody... Oh, okay, new he was. Like, nobody... Oh, okay.
New he was.
Like, he had to put him down or something.
Okay, okay.
Right.
You understand what I'm saying?
But that's what bros do.
You know what I'm saying?
So, fast forward after that, he didn't say nothing about it or whatever.
So, I didn't hear from him in a minute.
You know what I'm saying?
Or whatever.
Now, most niggas, if you got lucky or you connected i'm saying or whatever now most niggas if you got lucky or you
connected with a girl or whatever that i introduced you to you're gonna say yo you know that joint
that you're with yo you know you're gonna give me that brother talk but he didn't but he didn't do
that you know i'm saying so he was at a bmi awards and he just was there he was like we together now
whatever whatever and i was like okay i'm i'm happy for y'all but damn what kind of you know
what i'm saying like wait wait wait he said okay okay you lost me a little bit all right so you hooked him
up with the girl he never said nothing about it so now this is months later we order to be in my
awards you know what I'm saying and you know we had to be in my awards and he just he there with
her as his date he's like is your homegirl from miami well she from seattle but she live in la now pick up seattle she's like he's like yo um we together
now kissing and stuff in front of me so i'm like all right cool i ain't i ain't take nothing from
it but you know i'm saying like i gotta ask you was did you was you smashing no no no no no to
this day to this day that's my like best wife one of my best female friends like It was just to make someone that knows the area to link with him, right?
It wasn't like a dating thing.
You wasn't hooking him up.
Yeah, it was just like, yeah, somebody look out for him and make sure you're all right.
So now that they're talking about they're dating, it's kind of weird right now.
To me, yeah, because he never, you know what I'm saying?
He said he liked her.
He never said he was soothing.
He never called and be like, yo.
So I found, okay, cool. So now, the second I became a solo artist, it's this little thing in, you know, Atlantic Records because of whatever, like, you know.
Like a rivalry started brewing.
Right, because this is my first album, but he probably had like three, four albums out by the time, or three albums or something, you know what I'm saying?
So they put me in direct competition at the label with him, you know what I'm saying?
But he got a manager like Kevin Lyles, and I got a manager like a nigga, you know what I'm saying?
Like a nigga that I came up with, you know what I'm saying?
And of course, Jimmy Henshaw was my manager at the time, too.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
But Jimmy's role wasn't to handle the business.
It was just, you know what I'm saying, some other shit.
So, to make a long story short, me and Drake, we're driving in Atlanta.
The same day, me, 2 Chainz, and listen, I commend Drake.
Drake a real nigga.
This is why.
Me, him, 2 Chainz, we all at Benihana's.
We eating, whatever, whatever.
Hold on.
Stop.
I'm going to stop you right there. That's at Benny Hanna's table right there
Please keep this story
But I cannot see you drinking
2 Chainz and motherfucking
At an all place, that's where I am
Bro, we at Benny Hanna's, 2 Chainz got his
Matter of fact, we just
No, no, no, listen
Other people did, what y'all
No, just us
I'm talking at the table.
You're not at the table.
It was just us.
We didn't have any extra people.
It was just us.
You know what I'm saying?
He had his door.
Matter of fact, he was just there,
and we walked in,
and we were just hanging out.
So this whole day,
me and Jerry, we went to...
And this is really housed in Atlanta?
Yep, in Atlanta,
off of Peach Street.
Okay, got it.
You know that one,
but like close to Buckhead or someek. I know Peach Cheek.
So we there,
we hanging out or whatever.
So then after this now,
I tell Drake,
I say, yo,
that song,
because I think
Trey Songz and Drake
did the same song.
I was like, yo,
that song that he did,
it's not as good
as the one you did.
You know what I'm saying?
And I go in my bag
about what happened.
Like everything I just told y'all. And I go in my bag About what happened Like everything
I just told y'all
And I understand
And this was
This was my mistake
As a nigga
Cause I shouldn't
Have been
Bringing this up
To a person
That I don't even
Telling me Drake
Went back and told the y'all
He did
But
That's the thing
But that's his nigga
That was his nigga
I didn't know
That that was his nigga
You know what I'm saying
I ain't already had music
Before and he had
Respect for Y'all.
So listen.
Hold on.
You and Benny Hanna's.
And you telling him this and Benny Hanna's.
No, no.
Matter of fact, we was just in the car.
So here's the thing now.
So after I said this now, my homeboy was following us.
Drake immediately got out of the car after.
And he started rocking my homeboy.
He was like, yo, I got to get someone to the ATM
or something, but I guess
he handled it in a way where he didn't tell me
like, yo, that's my nigga, or he didn't try to
shut it down or nothing. He listened to it,
and then he like, you know what? I ain't fucking
with T right now. You understand what I'm saying?
Because he talking about my mans, but you know what I'm saying?
I didn't know that that was his mans.
I'm speaking my truth. You know what I'm saying?
I don't tell anybody. I don't give a fuck.
You feel me?
So long story short,
word gets back to Trey from Drake.
Then,
now it's just big ass beef
in,
in,
in the label or whatever,
but we never really did nothing about it.
Fucking,
he does this diss record
with R. Kelly
and he dissed me in the record.
He said, I ain't no Pleasure P,
these other R&B niggas just don't measure G.
He said that in the record.
So I took offense to that.
In L.A., I ran up on him.
Kaiser was there.
Polo Don was there.
Kerry Hilson was there.
Pleasure P, you running down on niggas?
I ran up on them.
Kerry Hilson was there. It was Kerry Hilson party. It was at the spot on... You running down on niggas on Kerry Hilson was there. I ran up on him.
It was Kerry Hilson party.
It was at the spot on Sunset.
What is this spot called?
Is it high?
Maybe. It was on Sunset.
Yeah, it was high.
So, ran up on him.
He see me.
It's me and my niggas. It's him and his security.
We got to face off off The first thing he did
Is he hugged me
You know what I'm saying
He saw me
And he hugged me
And we went into the kitchen
And we talked it out
And then
We talked it out
And then after that
Him, guys, all of us
That's when they all came to my house
And we partied
And you know
Hospitality to the T, you know me,
that's how I am, I'm a hospitable, I got that southern
hospitality thing, whatever,
niggas, when they came
back to my city, we got a concert, niggas
ain't hit me up, like, yo, you got a ticket or two,
I ain't got a ticket to your concert,
but it was just like some shit like that.
So then, um,
time passed,
we done buried everything,
we end up at a party here in Miami together,
Kevin Liles is there, we taking shots, no problems.
Another time I see him now in Miami, here in Miami,
they at mansion, it's him and Jeezy,
they standing like above us.
So of course, I know Jeezy too, you know what above us. So, of course, I know
Jeezy too, you know what I'm saying? Through Aaron
or whatever the case may be. Every time I met Jeezy,
dog was cool as fuck, whatever the case may be.
So, um,
I see them and
I'm like, what up? I reach out to give
Jeezy Dap or something and
Trey was like,
nigga ain't Dap me up or whatever the case
may be. Jeezy didn't Dap you up? be. Oh, Jeezy didn't dap you up
or Trey didn't
dap you up?
Uh,
Jeezy didn't
because of,
and you know,
them niggas
are like kind of
laughing and like
playing some kind
of whatever.
So,
this sounds like
a bad scene.
Hold on.
It wasn't a bad scene.
It's just,
I'm just saying like,
I don't fuck with somebody.
Okay,
you know me.
Right.
I don't fuck with you.
We,
listen,
we ain't gotta
fuck with each other.
I don't go out of my way to dap people that I don't fuck with. Like, If I don't fuck with you, listen, we ain't got to fuck with each other. I don't go out of my way
to dap people
that I don't fuck with.
Like,
if you don't fuck with me
and whatever,
it should be a mutual thing
to at least I know
that you don't fuck with me.
Why would I go to dap you up
if you don't fuck with me?
That don't make no sense.
So you're saying
that you went to dap Jeezy up,
not even Trey,
and Jeezy pulled back?
Both of them,
yeah.
Like,
hold up, bro.
Pulled back. So I'm like, oh shit, that's weird. So of course, yeah Like, hold up, bro Pulled back
So I'm like, oh shit
That's weird
So of course I feel
Nigga, alright, whatever, whatever
So cool
Time passed again
I'm in London now
You know what I'm saying?
I'm in London
I hosted the same party as
I didn't take it nothing
I didn't take it personal
On Trey Park
You know what I'm saying?
I just, alright, cool
Because you knew
Your relationship
Yeah, no words
But Jeezy had to throw you off.
Yeah, threw me off like a motherfucker.
I never took shots with somebody like now and then see you and then I don't know bro.
I never, I'm just speaking my truth bro, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
So we get to, I go to London now.
We're hosting the same part.
Well, he hosted the same club so I'm like, I'm going to go through and show. We hosting the same part. Well, he hosts at the same club.
So I'm like, I'm going to go through and show Trey.
I'm like, yo, I'm going to go through and I'm going to show Trey some love.
I posted on my Instagram.
So now I get to the VIP.
So I go to holler at him and this man, Bully, is like, yo, you know me, I'm Bully.
I'll whoop your ass.
And I'm like, bro, I'm by myself, though. Heully. I'll whoop your ass right now. I'm like, bro.
I'm by myself, though.
He said, I'll whoop your ass right now?
He said, he just out of nowhere,
but it was the most shocking thing ever because all I was going over there to do
was show niggas love or whatever.
This is after he put out the record
or this is before he put out the record?
We're talking about two years ago now.
You know what I'm saying?
This is a timeline from then to now
that I just, you know what I'm saying?
You already squashed it. It was already, yeah. Well, I don't know, you know what I'm saying? You already squashed it.
It was already.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
You thought you did.
So I see Bully, Bully like, I'll beat your ass right now.
Maybe it's from what happened to Jeezy.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm like, of course, I'm bothered.
But I'm like, bro, like, you know, I'm saying But I'm like Of course I'm bothered But I'm like bro like
You know I handle it
Like a gentleman
I'm like yo Trey
Go and get your mans
Whatever Trey comes over
Trey says
And then Trey says
Yo man
It is what it is
Now get the fuck away
From my table
He told me that
So I'm like
Everything
It took me everything
Not to just
Feel me
Fight
Win or lose
Or drop whatever
But I'm in London
I can
You know
If
If I go to jail in London
Nigga
It's not gonna be a pretty side
Nigga
I probably won't have a visa
To go there
To make money no more
So
I say you know
We'll handle this
When we get back
You know what I'm saying
So I didn't really see them
Until Like I don't know.
I think I was at Club Live, like, this past year or something like that.
So I ran up on him.
Mike Gardner was there.
I ran up to his table.
You know what I'm saying?
I told him, yo, y'all holler at me.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, let's just clarify some shit.
As I'm walking away, the nigga bully, same nigga. Yo, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to apologize, whatever, whatever.
Because, you know, whatever.
But I got my niggas with me now.
Feel me?
So if y'all want to do something, like, we can't, like, I don't believe in other people.
He said that to you?
Bullion said that?
He said.
He apologized.
And then he said, if you want to do something?
No, no.
I'm telling you.
Okay, okay, okay.
If a nigga want to do something, like, if you wanna fight,
we can fight.
I don't know what that's
gonna solve.
We all make too much money
to be fighting.
It's just, if we don't
fuck with each other,
let's just keep it respectful
so that I know,
so that next time
I'm not gonna go
over the aisle at you
to be like, yo, what up?
If I know you don't,
let me know you don't
fuck with me pretty much.
You know what I'm saying?
That was just it, bro.
And after that,
we was supposed to talk.
He was like, we'll talk tomorrow. I'm like, no, let just it bro, and after that, we was supposed to talk, he was like,
we'll talk tomorrow,
I'm like,
nah,
let's talk right now,
outside,
he didn't want to talk outside,
obviously,
so I've been hitting him up,
I can show you right now,
I've been hitting him up,
like yo,
what's up,
y'all want to talk the next day,
he didn't respond,
so I haven't really,
heard nothing from him,
you know what I'm saying,
since then,
but,
Trey is somebody,
that I came up with,
I got mad
respect and love for but it's just how he dealt with situations it's like damn my after telling
you to get the away from my table the same damn you i brought you you know what i'm saying
back in the day when you know what i'm saying when we you know what i mean when you was up
to coming or when pretty ricky did a show we like, yo, this our brother Trey Songz,
yo,
you know,
we was always loved.
So I don't,
you know,
I don't know.
But that's how that kind of beat,
you know what I'm saying,
started.
So I'm just in a place,
man,
like,
you know,
obviously he could kill us.
Obviously Drake could kill us.
And so can I,
but I'm just giving you like,
some real stories that,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
I know a lot of shit.
I just don't talk about it.
So Drake done sold you out.
But,
that was his man's done.
Now,
Drake,
so,
but one thing I do respect
is that he got out
of the car immediately.
Nah,
nah,
nah,
nah.
So I saw him the other day,
right?
He was at Prime 12,
I saw him the other day.
I was like,
when I thought about that shit,
you wasn't wrong.
If that,
if that, if somebody says something about you, I don't want them to do the same thing.
You know what I'm saying?
So dog solid when it comes to shit like that.
Oh, so you've seen Drake.
Y'all have seen each other after that?
Yeah, plenty of times.
Okay.
Plenty of times, yeah.
And so you said when you seen them, you told them he wasn't wrong because...
Yeah, because I thought about it.
You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, he was in the right as the homie's friend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was in the right.
You know what I'm saying?
That was it.
Yeah.
But how about Jeezy, though?
Man, I'm a Jeezy fan.
You know what I'm saying?
I love his music.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what he was going through today.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
Have you seen him after that?
Nah, I haven't seen him.
All right.
I haven't seen him. I haven't seen him.
What would happen if you see him?
Nothing.
I'm not going to go dab him up again, obviously.
You know what I'm saying?
If he was cool one day, the next day, you don't know why he won't die.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
But yeah.
I just, because I...
I don't put myself in situations anymore.
So if you ever see me out, don't think I'm Hollywood.
Just, you know, this is why know this is why I don't fuck with
people this is why you know what I'm saying I just be you know to myself unless I know you
and it's oh what you know what we drink and what we doing you know what I'm saying yeah yeah that
had to hurt though did it hurt or no because I mean I was drunk it didn't hurt I mean I mean um
I mean like uh because just a trade relationship you know I mean for uh, because it's a trade relationship, you know what I mean?
Because I felt like y'all was friends at one point.
Yeah, it was cool.
You know, on my end, you know what I'm saying?
I look at him as a friend, but I don't know if he looked at me like a nigga in the industry.
I don't know, you know what I'm saying?
But, shit, you know, it's always been love on my end.
Like, I never, ever, ever tried to.
You know what I'm saying?
So you don't think there's anything that,
there's any misunderstanding that he might have gone through that you might not remember or something?
I don't see how it could.
Because it sounds pretty kind of crazy the way you do it.
That's how it is to me.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
But, you know, I watched everybody grow.
We all grew together.
You know what I'm saying? 2005, Class of we all grew together right I'm saying 2005 class of music you know you got T-Pain Rihanna like all of us all
came up Chris like all of us came up at the same time so I don't know and what's
your relationship with Rihanna I don't know you don't know you never met Rihanna
I think about me either I mean I did shows with her you know I did't know her. You don't know her? You never met Rihanna? No, I don't think about her, me neither.
I mean, I did shows with her.
You know what I'm saying?
I did shows with her.
But I don't really know her personally.
But, oh, you know, one time she did some ill though.
I was in Club Liv, it was like on the second floor.
She hosted Club Liv, and her security was doing too much.
Like pushing niggas out the way,
so he tried to push them,
and I pushed him like, bro,
don't fucking play.
And she was like,
look,
I told you to stop it.
This artist,
da-da-da-da-da-da.
And she was real nice about it.
She kept it moving,
but she was real nice about it.
You know what I'm saying?
She was nice.
Like, you know,
most people let
insecurity act out.
She checked the nigga
real quick.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
That's dope, man.
Rihanna, wherever you at,
we really need you on Drink Champs, goddammit.
Immediately.
Immediately. Come on, let's make some noise for getting Rihanna.
We need to pay you in front of the camera.
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Your debut album was the introduction.
Marcus Cooper, yeah.
That's what Under was on.
Three Grammy nominations, all of that.
You know what I'm saying?
It was a dope album.
Static Major, rest in peace Static Major.
You know what I'm saying? He was a part of that rest in peace static major you know I'm saying he was a part of that too that's my brother static major um little wayne
he's on little wayne track too lollipop yeah lollipop it's a story about that too with um
little wayne and r kelly how much pussy was on that tour a lot too much
I'm not gonna lie my career is gonna live through you right now. Too much. I almost finished the tour of R. Kelly successfully.
You know what I'm saying?
Almost?
I almost was the first.
Like, the rumor came out while I was on tour of R. Kelly.
You know what I'm saying?
So we had, like, three more shows to go, and bam, this rumor come out.
And at the same time, like, the same day I got nominated for three Emmys.
Wait, wait.
So you went on R. Kelly and the three-runner tour of R. Kelly and Lil Wayne?
One, yeah.
So the Wayne tour was first, and then and then like a month after our Kelly. Oh
But cows is cool, you know
You know, I accepted his rules like, you know, he was like here rules like okay, of course
No, if you perform understood, there's no dressing rooms for you as an up-and-coming act. You know what I'm saying? There's no dressing rooms?
Like, there was no dressing room for me.
It was me, him, and K. Michelle.
Guess what I said to my dancers and whoever?
I'm going to give a fuck.
We're getting this back.
We're going to get dressed on the bus.
I don't want to be in a venue anyway.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm not going to argue over a dressing room in a venue.
You're going to jump up.
But why would he want anybody else to have a dressing room?
I don't understand.
Because they all his?
Yeah, him and his dancers and his band and whatever.
He didn't make no room for an artist like me who supported his tour.
But I took that like a champ.
Like, okay, we're going to make the best of it.
And you said K. Michelle as well?
Yeah, she was on there.
Get the...
This is your first...
This is not your first tour.
No.
Oh, okay.
I'm trying to picture the scenery.
So you're already lit.
He's already R. Kelly.
Okay, Michelle's lit as well?
Nah, she up and coming.
She up and coming, K. Michelle.
So she had no dressing room either?
She used to work with him.
Maybe she did.
I don't know.
She used to work with him.
They used to be like close.
But you had no dressing room for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
But you had The after party
After the after party
Yeah yeah no
But listen
After
I think he's like a guy
Who
Like maybe when he
When he started out
You know what I'm saying
That's how it was
Like you had to grind it up
No matter what
Cause he's still who he is
So he tried to put y'all
Through what he wanted
Right
And I think that's what he's doing
People don't understand it
So I understood it
And I was like
You know what
I'm just happy to be on tour
With you man You still go You. And I was like, you know what? I'm just happy to be on tour with you, man.
You still go.
You know what I mean?
And eventually, you know, we went to the same party.
And, you know, he was cool.
And he was, like, embracing me and things like that.
He out here eating whole ass.
He don't eat half ass.
This is a lot of things going on.
You seen that tape?
He ate the whole ass, nigga.
Which tape?
I ain't gonna lie. The one where he was. The pee-pee tape? Yeah, the pee-pee, man. I never seen the ass, nigga. Which tape? I ain't gonna lie.
The one where he was...
The pee-pee tape?
Yeah, the pee-pee, man.
I never seen the tape, bro.
You never seen the tape?
It was hot on the market, nigga.
You had to.
Straight up?
I had to.
I was trying to...
I never seen the tape.
I was trying to avoid it, right?
And then I forget.
It was...
I was at Recipe's Kev Cobb's house.
And...
That shit was mad long, too.
Like... Yeah, God bless. Because because Kai's been there for a minute.
So the crazy shit was,
Kai's had some type of problems in his complex development,
so we couldn't smoke in there from certain hours.
So I had to go downstairs,
and there was these people out there,
and we were smoking in the van.
So it was the van-tastic.
And I walked in, and it was a bunch of girl artists. It was a van-tastic. And a the fantastic and I walked in there was a
bunch of girl artists and it was a fantastic and a bunch of girl artists
was in there and they were watching the tape and I felt like a cornball to be
like yo turn that shit off I was like fuck it they watching it might as well
and this nigga ate a whole ass nigga that nigga was in there that nigga that
nigga it was different man.
I've never seen that.
Hey, but I'm hearing that's what married people do.
No, I don't need that. I'm trying, I'm trying.
You know that's my next question.
You know that's my next question for you, right?
You know that's my next question for you, right?
Yeah, a clean woman is no tell? You eat ass. A clean woman, there's no telling what I'll do
to a clean woman.
I promise.
I ain't saying anything.
Listen, I'm for the 69.
You know what I'm saying?
I might be right here, but I might go up a little bit.
I don't care what came out of it.
We need to save my team.
We got a dude on our show called Eddie the Ass Eater.
Where's he at?
He's working in here.
He's out here burping.
You can't be eating ass and burping in public like that you
gotta take a choice he found these subtiles
I eat a lot of pussy
you ever said the girl told me? Nah, nah. I ain't really into the sucking toes thing. You ain't get it? Nah, nah.
I'm not into it.
I'm not a toe nigger.
Like, yeah.
You remember Boomerang?
You remember the movie Boomerang?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was blowing the sheet off of motherfuckers
and looking at their toes.
Like, I ain't gonna lie.
I seen Capone on, oh damn.
Did I say that out loud?
Jesus.
What the fuck?
You ain't seen Capone under the bus. I haven't, huh? I'm so sorry, Paul. I'm just, I'm so sorry. Let me just change the subject. Jesus
I'm so sorry. Well, I'm just coming this is like let me just change the subject
But I'm definitely not in the tolls and I'm just almost a regular nigga man. Are you anti-toe?
No, I thought I'm anti-toe. I just I'm not I've never really get it I don't know what they we do. so y'all niggas don't eat ass
So much pussy I'm just telling you.
I stay too up to go down to the toes.
I'm not going down there.
The toes, I don't know about the toes.
Like you said, that's some boomerang.
That's some boomerang.
Now, you said sex is like molly and weed?
That's what you told the bitch?
You told the bitch your sex is like molly and weed? Oh, that's in the song, Ride With You told a bitch your sex is like Molly and weed.
Oh, that's in the song, Ride With You. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesus, nigga, I have Molly on weed and this way you got some Molly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fantastic.
It'll take you to another place.
So that's what you hit. Is your telling bitches out there?
That's how I put, no, I mean, that's how it's supposed to be.
Oh, yeah. So everybody, so R&B, do y'all have to go to a sex class To be an R&B member?
I just write it for my reality
My reality
You know what I mean?
Like yeah
Cause I live a different kind of life
When it comes to
What I do with a woman
You know what I'm saying?
Just like
In a hole
You know what I'm saying?
Cause I heard
I heard you rented a boat for a chick
And she wasn't even happy Oh that was the ex-girlfriend
This way, oh wait you unhappy listen
When you're a giver, I'm gonna give her you probably give them a give with givers give us a so the takers
They never understand what sacrifices the givers had to go through to make them happy or make them smile.
You know what I'm saying?
So this girl, I went above and beyond and did everything.
I mean, I paid the eyelashes.
I fucking put the rolling on her wrist.
Chanel purses.
All kind of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't get a Chanel purse.
She didn't make it there yet.
She almost was there.
You know, those Chanel bags are different, brother.
A little five, six.
Yeah, yeah.
You nigga don't want to spend five bands on a bag like that, man.
Shit real. But, yeah, she almost made it to, you know what I five, six. Yeah, yeah. You nigga don't want to spend five bands on the back. Not that bad, man. Shit real.
Yeah, she almost made it to, you know what I'm saying, dinners every night.
You know, back and forth trips here.
You know what I'm saying?
We did a lot of shit together, but she just didn't appreciate it.
So, I had to let her go.
Right.
But how'd you get to the boat?
It was a birthday.
You know what I'm saying?
She had a birthday.
She said, okay, I want to do a birthday weekend with my friends or whatever.
I'm like, cool.
Got the Me Hotel on Ocean Drive.
Put her friends up there.
Took her to Prime 112.
This is the second time she said the Me Hotel.
I'm not familiar with this.
What is the Me Hotel?
Okay, so I got a condo in the Marquis.
Downtown on Biscayne.
Goddamn.
So it's a hotel next to the Marquis. Oh, it's called the Me Hotel. Yeah. Yeah, it's a hotel next to the, you know what I'm saying?
It's called the B Hotel.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's nice.
It's so nice.
You got to check it out.
I got to plug that too.
Okay, okay.
You ever need it.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to go.
But put her up there.
Put her and her friends up there.
You know, took her to Prime 112.
Got the rooftop.
Talked to Miles.
Miles, yo, I need the rooftop. Pick up the miles. The home. You know what I'm saying? Shots on Miles, Prime 112 Got the rooftop Called Miles Miles yo I need the rooftop
Pick up the miles
The home
You know what I'm saying
Shots on Miles
Prime 112
Yo and Anthony
You know what I'm saying
He helped put it together
And Derrick
And Derrick too
Derrick
Derrick my guy
Shots on Derrick
So you know
They got the rooftop
Popping you know
She bring her friends through
I say alright
As a man I'm like
She said she wanna do a joint party
With her friends
But
They got
These cakes
Did you say drink party
Or drink party
I'm about to say that
That'd be crazy
Joint
She asked me for a drink party
Joint
Joint party
She wanna do a joint party
Like a joint birthday
Cause they all celebrate birthday
But her birthday party
Was like on a Tuesday
But it's like Thursday
So we still going
They wanna match it up
Right
So I said you know what
Let me just get three cakes
Now you know the cakes are a problem
So the whole cake
The whole cake is like
A couple
You know a couple
Three, four
You know a couple hundred dollars
How many cakes are there?
So I ordered three different cakes
That you know
That her friends
You know whatever
May like whatever
So Derek come bring out the cakes
And stuff like that
She say
I'm going to throw this cake In Marcus' face To one of her friends And I heard it I'm like or me like, whatever. So Derek come bring out the cakes and stuff like that. She say,
I'm going to throw this cake in Marcus's face
to one of her friends.
And I heard it.
I'm like,
throw a cake in my face for what?
You know what I'm saying?
Throw a cake in my face.
So,
you can throw some cake in my face.
After going to the,
after going to the club,
after all kinds of shit,
right?
Bottles,
all this on me.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
She got mad because
she wanted to be
the only person with a cake.
I'm like, well, if you would have celebrated your birthday alone, then that would have been different.
But I'm a guy like, I'm not going to buy them cupcakes and then buy you this grand cake at this place.
It's just like, nah, we all going to do it if I'm trying to make everybody happy for their birthday.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So, yeah, she didn't appreciate that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I kind of just, you know. And then, of course, the next day was like a boat party,
so we got a 70-foot boat and whatever, whatever.
That wasn't good enough for her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, a 70-foot yacht, and that wasn't good enough for her.
So, you know, after that, that was my breaking point.
It was like, you know what?
Yeah, yeah.
I can't do this anymore so what what's what's what's like someone you dated before and uh you might have walked away from and you might want to go back to
like is there is anyone you don't ever want to revisit a situation um nah you know i'm saying
if i did i don't know i'd have to see that person again to see how they are now.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, when you're away from a person, you kind of remember them, you know, for who they used to be.
But every day motherfuckers is growing and going through other shit.
So who the fuck is that person now?
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody ain't going to always be who you remember them to be.
So, you know, I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like know, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? So, like, because...
I'm trying to think of it, like...
As much as we've been through, like, sometimes in our mind...
My next one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's do another shot.
My next one.
Hey, well, none of that nasty shit you gave me.
That nasty shit is good.
It's good for you.
That shit... I'm not fucking with that shit.
I'm not fucking with that shit.
So, because, like I said, I've got homies.
I've got one homie in particular.
But, you know, he had one girl.
Well, he had every girl that did him wrong.
And now that's how he feels.
And he walks around bitter.
Do you think that's what a lot of that's what was happening in relationships is that one person gets
hurt so bad that they just they pretty much take it out on the rest of the
world you know what's funny for me like all of the lessons that I've been
through I'm happy that I've been through them. It's like, yo, because that means I was going through a great depression or some shit.
Because why the fuck did I take the things that I was, you know, why did I even allow that from this motherfucker who don't have a pot to piss in the window to throw it out of?
Right.
Why would I even take that?
Right.
You understand what I'm saying?
Right.
What the fuck was I thinking?
You know what I'm saying?
So I kind of woke up and, you know, got back to myself.
So I wasn't hurt by it.
It was just, damn, you know what, bro?
The giver.
And we all do it for our friends or whoever.
Like, we go through these things.
So now it's, I ain't, it ain't even just about that relationship.
It's about everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
Who you give to?
Everybody on a bigger scale.
So, you know, I just know not to let people put me, you know,
in that position too tough anymore, you know what I'm sayin'?
That's real.
Yeah.
But the best relationship in a business that I've had,
when I dated Eddie Murphy's daughter,
that was a good relationship.
What do you mean, what?
What?
What?
Yep.
Bring her back.
Bring her back?
Bring her back!
Pull up back Pull up
You dated
Eddie Murphy's
Daughter
That was my
I took her to the Grammys
That was my public
Relationship
You know what I'm saying
Yeah
Totally forgot about that
Yeah
I was going through
A lot during that time
Imagine when that
Rumor came out
And you got
Eddie Murphy's
Daughter now right
But your life
Descending
But you can't
Really tell her
You know what I'm saying
Like yo This is what I'm Really going through You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, this is what I'm really
going through. You know what I'm saying?
Right. And what, um,
or did she hear that?
Or downsizing, not descending, but downsizing.
You know what I'm saying? And did she hear that?
She heard the rumor when you was together?
Yeah, but she was at the interviews with me, like, yo,
that's some bullshit. Like, imagine just
me and Eddie Murphy for the first time,
and then this nigga hearing this kind of shit because niggas is jealous
We'll wait for you come out the back. We all know sweet for you to come out the back
Oh, yeah, we wait for the shot. Oh, yeah, I just feel good. Are you mad Eddie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, like the house that Swiss beatsats and Alicia Keys, Bubble Hill.
You know what I'm saying?
He allowed me to stay there when I was in New York.
Like, he was cool.
He took me out with the Carolines with him.
He was super cool.
The Comedy Club Carolines?
Yep, in New York.
You went to Carolines with Eddie motherfucking Murky?
Yep.
That is the comedy fucking, like.
Nah, listen.
He was super cool.
Only thing about him, though, like, you can be like, okay, he got a bowling alley in his house.
Got that.
So, we bowling.
We bowling and shit.
And you could be talking about,
we gonna do a skate party, and this, this, that, and that.
He would tell me the stories about Prince on skates,
and you know, just certain things.
He's a very intelligent guy.
He'd be like, who's the first person that invented the solo?
Like, you know the solo, like when people
riff on songs or, you know,
artists, Louis Armstrong, he like,
he like a trivia kind of guy, you know what I'm saying?
So,
you know, we ballin' or
whatever, and then I look back,
he just gone, bro, like,
imagine ballin' with somebody,
and he look back, he like, maybe he just got
inspired, but he won't come out of the room for days,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, he'll just be in there writing some shit or something,
but he was cool though, he wasn't like,
no Hollywood guy or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
And not that I know him like,
you know, I'm his best friend or some shit,
but you know, the times that I've been counting him,
he's been cool, you know what I'm saying?
That's funny, come on, that is beautiful.
Her mom Nicole, super cool. We drinking this new C funny. Come on. That's her mom Nicole
We drinking this new Ciroc. You've been drinking a new song
Do we dare smell it or no, let me see this smells sweet Yeah, but that was my first public relationship, man.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
Pretty good.
What, you drank it over there too, man?
Yeah.
That's that new flavor right there.
I don't know, I like the VX.
I'm a brown guy.
You're a brown guy.
Listen.
Five times distilled.
They sent me a bottle of that, I've been, you know, I fuck with that.
So, how did you and Eddie's daughter,
how did, you know what man,
I wasn't the best person in that relationship.
I'm gonna be 100% honest, you know what I'm saying?
I was going through all the things that I'm talking about,
and, yeah, it's just.
You were smashing other dicks?
No, not necessarily.
You know, it was a speculation, but not necessarily.
You know what I'm saying?
But, yeah, you know, I wasn't the best person ever.
You think it's hard to be loyal because of who you are?
No.
I can be with one woman.
Yeah.
For sure.
And you've done that before?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah, a lot of times.
And then how did that, so?
It's like when you be a good nigga, what you get is What I just told you About the X and the
The ungratefulness
And you know what I'm saying
So it's just about
When you find the right person
You find the right person
But until I find
The right person
I'ma just be out here
You know what I'm saying
Not in the sense of
I'm taking home groupies
And I'm
You know what I'm saying
But just you know
I'm singing
Shit is real out here man
Shit is real out here I don. Shit is real out here.
I don't know, let me go back to my notes real quick.
I know I wasn't there for it,
but so you was hanging with Eddie Murphy?
No, no, listen.
I would see him in his kitchen playing his guitar,
because we would come over there.
So you'd just walk by in the crib
and you'd see him right there?
Nah, he was cool.
Like he would just, you know, I'd go around
and he would just, you know, do what he do.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how he got.
He a good dude, dog, he a good dude.
Man, a legend.
And he's a legend, crazy.
All right, cool, let me see where I'm going with it.
But you should definitely, we definitely clear that.
You guys both eat ass, we definitely clear that.
What, you trying to say it's a Miami thing?
No, yeah, Miami, this is Spiti.
I think you did it too, bro, you just,
you know what I'm saying?
I ain't mad at it.
What, man.
I think you tried it, man.
You just don't want to talk about it.
That's when they used to be
when them throwbacks in the videos
and all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
He just might have, you know,
took it, you know what I'm saying?
He was talking about the bottles back then
and how he used to, you know what I'm saying?
I learned that from y'all, nigga.
I'm going to be honest.
Y'all Miami, I'm going to be honest. Y'all Miami.
I'm going to be honest.
Miami, bro.
Miami might be the nastiest.
Listen, listen, listen.
Relax, man.
I'm going to be honest.
Y'all, listen.
I'm talking about, I'm speaking for females.
I'm not speaking from a female point of view.
I mean, you like your girls as nasty as you want to be, so.
But when you hang out with a Miami dude.
Nah, it's not.
You're going to see
some strange movies
of James, goddamn.
Let me tell you something.
The difference with
Miami is that it's
out in the open.
You don't go into
New York and these
other cities, they
hide in everything.
It's all suppressed.
You guys, you guys
are crazy, man.
I'm just being honest.
Nah, nah.
The New York
makes you the condom
once.
The New York
makes us crazy.
Y'all got them bootleg strip clubs
You see what he said earlier
He said yo you might have another kid
You'll know about that's cause all niggas
They was hitting everything wrong
Hot dog no fun
Niggas remember when a dime bag was a dime
Hot dog no fun
We don't play that man
Crazy hood
You ever heard about crazy hood
These guys and Kendall they was sharing condoms.
Shit was real.
No, it started off, man.
It started off, man.
Shit was real, my dude.
I never seen this.
This is crazy.
They were running choo-choo trains for real.
You signed to the rock.
I didn't see none of that crazy shit.
Look, you posted this earlier. Oh, yeah. I liked it, that. I liked it. That's big. I didn't see none of that crazy shit. Latrice posted this earlier.
Oh, yeah, I liked it, Dad.
That's big.
I liked it, Dad.
That's big.
I liked it, Dad.
Shout out to El Venga, man.
Yeah, I liked it, Dad.
I liked it.
So, what has, what's been the benefits of being who you are?
And what's the positive?
Because so many people like me i'd
like to tell the negative side i'd like to tell because i would tell everything because we want
the people to know that yeah yeah yeah no upside down the downside you know the positive side for
me yes that i came from fucking carver ranchers and i just went to fucking Australia and got a bag. Hold on, let's call the Rantus. Let's go to Miramar. Okay, yeah, Miramar, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go to Miramar.
I'm a Rantus kid, man.
It's county line shit.
But let me tell you something.
I got to go to Australia every year and get a bag.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a blessing, man.
Come on, man.
That's coming from nothing or something, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
You're talking about kangaroos out there.
Yeah, I'm fucking in the outback, nigga. I went coming from nothing or something, bro. You know what I'm saying? You're talking about kangaroos out there. Yeah, I'm fucking
in the outback, nigga.
I went to Catherine.
With Aborigines
and kangaroos.
I was in Catherine,
Darwin.
Kangaroos are a box out there,
nigga.
The niggas is nice to him.
You are obsessed with kangaroos,
right?
Alice Springs,
that's where the niggas
like to be.
Yeah, so just the fact that,
you know, I'm able to provide
for my son,
you know what I'm saying?
His college.
I was already asking you
the whole time, do you smoke? Nah, I'm cool. Okay, cool, cool. I'm going to drink. my son you know I'm saying it's college sorry you know I'm you smoke now cool cool cool I'm gonna drink R&B niggas
can't last more nice that I can't smoke it's just I don't like what like when I
smoke weed or when I have in the past I'll be thinking about shit I shouldn't
think about I wonder how many, how many of you start counting shit and, oh, it's my hands are hot.
You know, it's my hands are all right, cool.
My hands are all right, cool.
You start counting the bricks on the wall.
You sure you don't weed?
Nah, for real.
Nah, nah, nah.
I know niggas like that.
I'm saying, yes, I am.
I mean, maybe I smoke some regular weed.
I'm smoking that regular weed.
You know, you the dirty.
That's not some regular weed.
I can't smoke that shit.
You know, one of my homies, he get high.
I love him.
You can smoke that regular?
No, I can't smoke regular.
I think that's offensive, man.
That's offensive.
I can't.
One of my homies, he get high.
That's dirty?
No.
I wish I could smoke a dirty.
Jesus.
Jesus, I'll be flying high.
My questions will be a lot better.
Shit.
My questions will be...
You smoking book, right?
Shit, you know who the book king of Miami is.
We ain't got similar names.
We got similar names.
We got similar names.
You know who the book king is.
I ain't...
We had trick.
There's a couple book kings in Miami, actually.
We had trick.
I'll tell you a funny story. I didn't say his name. I did not say his name. Trick the homie. Trick. There was a couple bootkicks in Miami, actually. We had Trick.
I'll tell you a funny story about him.
I didn't say his name.
I did not say his name.
Trick the homie.
Trick the homie, man.
Trick the homie, man.
And Gunplay.
Pick up Gunplay.
Pick up all of y'all Miami niggas.
Gunplay's on a new season as well, or you don't know?
I don't know, man.
I don't know, man.
You can't tell.
You can't say shit.
I can do the fuck I want to do.
Yeah, okay.
I don't give a goddamn.
Goddamn it.
What are they gonna do, fine me?
They ain't like they paying me. I make my money doing music. Like, they don't pay me to do music. gonna do Find me But I They paying me
I'm making money
Doing music
When you said
When you said
You didn't like
Reality
Don't find me
I can't believe
You said that
Cause I look
I look at you on the show
Look like you enjoying yourself
But I'm not
I think that's
I understand that man
I make it look good
Okay
You gotta understand,
I'm depressed.
Okay?
In real life or in the show?
No,
just the fact that I'm talented as an artist,
and I gotta fucking do reality TV for people to listen,
or to give me opportunities to spread my brand,
bro,
to say,
you know what,
nigga,
this is what really happened.
Niggas ain't calling up like,
yo,
I ain't on here
Because I'm on
Love and hip hop
I'm on here
Because I fuck with you
You understand what I'm saying
But think about
That's depressing
Like
That's
I feel low
Wow
That's deep
I feel low as fuck
Like nigga like
This is what I gotta
I'm a fucking
Legend in this
I'm a young OG
Right
Feel me I got the reality TV To'm a fucking legend in this. I'm a young OG. Right. Right.
You feel me?
I got the reality TV for you to listen to my music now.
That's what we got to do now.
You got to do a side show for your main hustle.
Let's fuck up.
Look what you did for Cardi B, dog.
Everybody in Cardi B.
You're right.
Let me tell you one thing.
Damn, you're right.
It's true.
That shit only work for women on that show because they bash men.
Oh, man.
And all respect to
them it's cuz men especially no no tell me one successful man from musically
that came from that show is about loving it was about music wait wait it's not
say that again successful man successful man that made it in music is we mean it
no like a cardi B tell me who's a male Cardi B Right right That came from
Love & Hip Hop
Popped off
Musically
None
Every nigga
I mean Cardi B
In itself is an anomaly
Safari is popular
As a reality star
But musically
He ain't got a
Number one record
Tell me what his
Number one record is
How about Lucci
How about Lucci
He not doing
Who
Lucci
From Love & Hip Hop LA
Tell me what his
Number one record is.
That's what he's saying.
He's saying,
oh, it's small, bitch.
It's small, bitch.
It's my jaw.
It's my jaw.
I ain't going back and forth with you, nigga.
Shots at the big ball.
But I'm saying,
nigga, who got a number one record from Love & Hip Hop?
That's a guy.
Right.
You see a guy with,
you know what I'm saying?
Come on, man.
Let's, let's, let's, let's, come on.
Why?
Why?
Tell me.
Who?
That's real.
Omarion had supposed to be, but he didn't know.
Oh, yeah, Omarion's the greatest ever.
He did.
He was Omarion, though.
Yeah, he was already.
Come on, man.
That's, come on, that's Omarion, bro.
Like, that dog talented.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
He got a good point.
Think about that.
Yeah, he's got a great point.
It can be you.
Michelle going, that bitch crocked.
Talk about niggas bad, whatever, whatever, whatever.
I feel like we don't get our just due.
So that's what I bring to the table when I'm on the show.
I'm worrying about me as a man getting my just due.
Like, nigga, it's good.
Father's out here.
It's good.
Why it always got to be about a nigga cheating or a nigga beat your ass or a nigga this or a nigga that?
Like, I'm just keeping it 100.
That's real.
But tell me one.
But tell me one.
Ain't nothing.
I'm not bashing the show because I respect what Mona's doing.
I'm thankful for the show and what it's done for me. Whatever it's done. You know what I'm not bashing the show Because I respect what Mona's doing I'm thankful for the show
And what it's done for me
Whatever it's done
You know what I'm saying
I'm not like an angry child
Or nothing like that
You know what I'm saying
But I'm just speaking my truth
And my facts
Yeah you're saying facts
Yeah
Right
So they edit how they want
Right
Yeah they edit in a sense
But not in a bad
I'm not saying it in a malicious way
I'm saying it in a way that
You gotta do
What you gotta do for TV
TV is a job
Like
These people over here
They gotta
They gotta entertain you
Cause you're watching
They gotta
They gotta do
What they gotta do
So
If that's what I signed up for
I ain't be no bitch about it
You know what I'm saying
Like
I signed up for it
It's TV
For that part
But it's still real
You know what I'm saying
Yeah
That's all I'm saying
So um
That was deep
I ain't gonna lie
Think about it
Tell me one
Nah I ain't gonna lie
That's deep
You fucked me up
Nah it's facts
It's facts
That's so
When I see it from that standpoint
But damn
Oh I got one
Damn you said through music
Music We talking about What we do Music I can say When I see it from that standpoint, well, damn. Oh, I got one. Damn, you said through music.
Music.
We talking about what we do.
Music.
I could say Joe Butts,
but it's not through music.
It's not through music.
And that nigga's dope.
Yeah.
And it's kind of like he's saying if they already had a set career before.
He talking about breakout.
Well, it was like Joe.
I feel like Joe was like middle ground.
Right, right.
But Cardi B wasn't really Known musically Before that
But she was known stripperly
Right right
But then after that
Personality
I'm talking about music
For what I do
I'm not a personality
I don't give a shit to V1
That's why you don't see me
No but your storyline is dope
I'm gonna be honest
No no no
I'm just being me though
Okay
Like in terms of
Like you see niggas
Posting 24-7
Like you got
Everybody trying to do
What everybody else do
I can't do that.
I can't change myself to be that.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not going to sit there and post and do all this dumb clown shit.
Not saying that I'm taking away from anybody.
Yeah, but do what feels comfortable to you.
It's not me.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
I don't feel...
If I got to post every day for people to pay me any attention, it's fuck this shit.
You know what?
I got enough money.
I open up five car washes.
I open up a business in Jamaica.
I'll do whatever.
I'll just raise my son and be happy.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't selling myself short for this shit.
You understand?
So that's how I feel about love and hip hop.
It's like, I'm not gonna sell myself short.
But six million people watch you.
I don't give a fuck.
But it has to be.
You don't want to do the song there.
I don't care.
I can go to Australia and get a bag from what I do.
I don't care.
Has it benefited you yet?
Or you ain't feel it yet?
I mean, he said it.
I don't feel like it benefited me.
No, you said it did to an extent.
Because you feel like you gotta do that
To continue doing the other stuff
That's the thought process
When you're doing it
You understand what I'm saying
When you look at the paycheck
Versus
Well whoever else get paid
I ain't gonna say no names
Or whoever
Whatever
And what we're giving
I'm giving you my life
I'm giving you some real shit
Just like I'm giving right now
It's you know
It's the same thing bro
I don't know
But this is
This when you give them
They're like
You're like
You're giving them
Your real shit
We friends
It's like
It's like me coming
Talking to my nigga
Right exactly
That shit is like
Nigga it's work
It feels like work
Cause they bring on
Extra stress
Right
You know what I'm saying
Whether it's necessary or not
They bring it on And I get it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Whether it's necessary or not,
they bring it on and I get it.
I understand.
Just like that time,
I'm sorry to cut you off,
but like the time
where you was out
with the Jamaican girl,
I think,
and then they invited
Shay there.
Yeah, like,
who does that?
Come on,
what does that really happen
in real life?
That doesn't happen
in real life.
Come on.
That doesn't happen
in real life.
Nigga, we in Miami.
Nigga, you know,
I might go to Little Haiti.
I might go to fucking whoever.
Right.
Who the fuck can come up to me
and say,
but that's TV.
That's TV.
And I don't,
not what they doing.
I love them.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
But I'm speaking to you.
I feel sorry for the Jamaica girl
when she threw the drink in there.
I was like,
yeah.
Ice cream.
You do ice cream.
Oh, yeah.
I was like,
she was in the red.
And then she came up with a sling.
Oh,
mint chocolate because she's a professional
Who's mint chocolate so now people fucks the color mint chocolate
I feel so sorry for the Jamaican girl because she was not ready
She did not know what was going on and Shay came in there
Yeah, but she's a vet
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Atlanta and for no, no, she's on flavor love
Holy moly fuck me up. No, no, but she was on school. No, but she was all about little scrap
Okay, and that's why. And then, and then, and then.
So that's why.
At first, your relationship staged.
And then I brought her home and brought my man.
Oh, that was you brought her home.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's good.
Oh.
Well, it was both of us.
For real, man.
Our relationship happened.
I'm not making like that.
All right.
And I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie.
I don't know Shea personally,
but I kinda felt like you did her wrong a little bit. Did you feel like that?
No, did you just a foul nigga all cuz you don't feel like you did a wrong period I
Didn't do a room
She was hurt she was hurt, but on this season
I'm a fan man. Yo Sal, Salou, once again, the pleasure, motherfucking Pete.
Yo, you gotta take the tiger down.
This is terrible.
Take the tiger down.
What the fuck is this, man?
We drinking it with you.
We drinking it with you.
What the fuck is this?
It's liquid death, man. Is it tequila? You know what I think the problem is is this? It's liquid death, man.
Is it tequila?
Like, is it what?
You know what I think the problem is with this?
It's bad.
I'm going to be honest with you.
No, I'm going to tell you.
We've been holding this bad for too long.
And I think it's fermenting more than it needs to, man.
No, I'm not going to lie.
This shit needs to be put on ice.
Shit needs to be put on ice.
This is what we do to bring out the,
we take it with the guests and it brings out.
The rah-rah.
The rah-rah.
You are being totally upfront.
And I'm going to be honest with you.
This is how I know 1 million percent you're, how you can say, innocent of what you was accused of.
Most people who are guilty of anything like that,
they avoid those questions.
And I wasn't gonna ask you that question at all
about the rumor.
Yeah, you're talking about it.
And you volunteered, and this is what I'm saying.
And everything about this interview right now,
I know when people are being genuine.
And I know how people be with me off camera,
and how people be with me on camera.
It's the same exact way, where I was off camera, on camera.
And I'll tell you, I appreciate that.
As a fellow realist, I appreciate that.
You know what I'm saying?
I appreciate you coming here and just sharing
your experience in the real way,
because I'm an artist too.
So one thing for sure, two things for certain,
I can sit down with an artist
and I can let them lie to me right in my face.
And I can look at them straight in the,
and I'm so trained now, I can be like,
all right, cool, me and you, you know what I mean?
Like, I'll let them go.
But you have been, like, not to say,
look, I'm a lie detector test,
but you have been fucking 100% honest.
I haven't seen any
big unreal moment when you get to the point where you don't give a fuck right
right nobody here pay my bills all right yeah I don't you know some people don't
like me some people not and if they don, I don't give a fuck. Right. As long as my son, my son's 14, dog.
Right.
As long as he like me, bro.
Right.
That's all I care about.
That's all that matters.
That's who I gotta live for.
Mm-hmm.
So I'm just getting him ready for the, you know, showing him what a man look like.
And you just had a fight with one of the niggas from Lil Ricky the other day, right?
Lil Ricky?
Nah, nah, nah.
That was some time.
That was maybe like not too long ago,
but that was on stage,
because he called you out on stage.
Nah, he tried to, okay, so.
What happened is, this is what happened.
This is the Wu-Tang of R&B, I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm explaining.
These niggas is like OD, Venom, Reaction.
Niggas start thinking,
the loyalty goes from not with us to now it comes to VH1.
So you do whatever.
You become their do-whatever.
Puppet.
Yeah, right?
They tell you you'll be a spender.
So now on reality TV, you know, you get niggas.
Now every time you do a post, niggas commenting in your comments.
They never commented before because he trying to get his recognition off of, you know, just, you know, ungenuine shit.
So I blocked them, right?
You blocked your own nigga from the group.
I respect that.
No, from commenting on your name.
No, no.
This is a nigga who put out a rumor about me because he was jealous of my success.
So I blocked the person in the sense of, you know what?
We ain't got to have no social media relationship.
Everything we do is real.
You understand?
And this is a guy from Puerto Rico.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Got to bring up that. Okay. Yeah.
So, you know, what happens after that is, you know, it's, yeah, I'll keep saying this.
Let me have another drink.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, have another drink.
Can I get it?
Can I get it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. God damn it.
Come on.
I'm feeling my drink in my two-step a little bit right now, man.
But, um, damn, I said, but I'm again.
Yo, y'all should count how many times I say, but I'm in this motherfucker.
God damn.
He, um, damn, I said it again.
He pretty much, damn, I don't know what the fuck is this shit.
That shit kicked his ass, man.
No one knows this shit. That shit kick his ass, man. No one knows what's in that.
No one knows what's in that.
Nah, but he would do just extra shit all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
Things like that.
So in the middle of the show, he said.
No, no, I'm going to get to it.
So I blocked him or whatever.
And I just, you know, we went to this show in Cincinnati.
And in Cincinnati, he, I guess he had niggas around him
all of a sudden and then
next thing you know one of the niggas is suspected
slicker mess in the group
so I'm like trying to get in between them
so there's not a problem and then
he didn't step up
to the plate like yo my nigga I'm a
you know what I'm saying like this my brother whatever
whatever so now I'm about to fight this nigga and this is like you know so after that like you know i don't fuck
with you because you put us in a situation first and foremost with groups and things like that
people shouldn't be backstage when it's business time look give your people a section
in the front you feel me let the people behind because it can be a girl.
It can be anything
with a group
where anybody can fall out
about anything.
So keep all the people
that's not involved
in what's about to be
presented on the stage.
Keep them away
because this is why
situations like this happen.
You feel me?
God knows what
he be telling dog
to where he can feel like,
you know,
he can disrespect anybody that's backstage.
So he did that.
I got offended.
He didn't step up.
Even though you think he did, I feel like he didn't in the best way.
You know what I'm saying?
That's like anybody right here right now offend me.
You probably going to step up and be like, yo, my man.
Exactly.
Period.
Right?
He ain't do that. um fast forward i say you know
what we can just do business bro like just know it ain't nothing personal between you and i
nothing like that like nigga it's just business you feel me like that's it we ain't brothers we
ain't nothing just it's business like nigga you know i ain't gotta you ain't brothers, we ain't nothing, just it's business. Like, nigga, you know, you ain't got to go home and have drinks with your co-worker.
Like, how do people fuck with their, you know, like, that's just facts.
You feel me?
Yeah, just make money.
All right, cool.
So we get to, I said, so from now on, because we used to have, like, the same dressing room and shit.
Just get my own little dressing room.
If not, I'll sit in the car before we perform.
But I just don't want to be around no fake-ass energy
and things like that.
From the show shit now,
the VH1 shit
that I brought to the table,
to him to be a puppet
for them to be doing
things with Shea
and, you know,
all this kind of shit,
I just say that shit
is fake to me.
You feel me?
So I just,
you know what?
Keep your energy over there.
I'm still cool with you.
We still don't get this money.
We just stay on your side.
You know what I'm saying?
I calm down after that situation happened.
So this particular show,
that was with Day 26,
we go to Arizona now.
That's the thing, it's from Bad Boy, Day 26.
Yeah, so we do this show,
and in the middle of the show,
I guess he thought he was going to have
one of those moments where,
you know, me and Pleasure be going on fake ass,
you know what I'm saying?
Me and Pleasure be going through shit,
because obviously he posted it on the internet
to tell Pleasure to unblock me.
Like, he doing everything for the clout,
and I don't respect that,
because you can just call my phone if that was the case,
you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
So he get on stage, and then, like, during the last song,
he's like, yo, you know, me and Pleasure be going through.
So my role manager cut his mic off because you spoke to him in advance and he knew, nigga, don't even do this.
If y'all want to talk, nigga, we're going to talk as men.
But we're going to do this, you know, in our business.
So I walk off stage.
So when I did that, he got upset and he came to my dressing room.
And I'm like, yo, get the he came to my dressing room And I'm like Yo get the fuck
Out of my dressing room
Bro like
You know I don't fuck with you
Cause I told you
That I don't fuck with you
Why are you at my dressing room
You know what I'm saying
Somebody get in between
And he pushed me
So I just caught him
With a
I said three on the record
Because it was a two piece
Two piece
And that was it
Bye mama
Like That's it And that was it. Bye, Mom.
Like, da-da.
And that was it.
Not discrediting him, because you know what I'm saying?
It's your brother.
You know, he's not my brother.
Brothers never do the things that niggas did to me.
And on top of that, what, okay, for a long time,
when you Google search my name, that first thing pop up is that shit.
You think niggas call me, let me try to help you clean that up, or let me try to be a better
person towards you as a brother, or
let me try to be a brother to you.
You can't call a person a brother if you don't do
brother shit. So, don't call
me your brother. Understand what I'm saying?
Whoa, that was
deep.
If you don't do brother shit, don't call me your brother.
I'm not your fucking brother. You don't do brother shit, don't call me your brother. I'm not your fucking brother.
We, you know.
That shit hit me in my soul, nigga.
He ain't try to clean it up.
He ain't try to apologize.
He ain't try to do nothing.
So me over here depressed and like, damn, I'm not as good as an artist no more because of a rumor.
And nobody that
i know is helping like yo this nigga you know tank probably the only nigga yo still beating me up or
whatever but because of that people don't want to associate a brand with you which is you know
why i don't like tiger as an as a person because he's a punk you know I'm saying? We did a record called I Love Girls together.
I just got my deal
at Entertainment Warner
out there in Lennon.
E1?
Yeah, E1.
Alan Grumblatt.
I was over there.
So,
we did the song,
Tiger.
I seen Tiger.
It was a Rihanna party.
It was like a birthday
or some shit.
You've been to a lot
of Rihanna shit, nigga.
Go ahead.
It was at like a mansion
somewhere in LA.
Go ahead. So, I see him. He Rihanna shit, nigga. Go ahead. It was at like a mansion somewhere in LA. Go ahead.
So,
I see him.
He's like,
yeah,
put the record out,
whatever,
whatever,
whatever.
So I put the record out
under that label
and we spend money at radio.
You know what I mean?
Like,
it's an investment.
I'm independent,
motherfucker.
Like,
it's an investment.
So when it's time to do the video,
Birdman gave me the clearance.
Tez at Young Money gave me the clearance.
So they're like, no, it's Tiger.
It's Tiger, it's Tiger.
Because he tried to whatever, whatever.
So when I spoke to him, he's like,
yo, I got a record with Chris coming out,
so I can't do any more R&B records.
He told me that.
Instead of just being 100 and being like,
yo, nigga, it's not good for my brand
Whatever the case
Whatever
You know what I mean
After putting this money up
You feel me
So
The same day
I was shooting a video
For that record
He was
He was at a house
That I was shooting a video
I guess he was looking
For houses or something
It was
How ironic is that
I'm telling people
Damn he should have been here
For the video And this this that and that He comes to the house That I'm telling people, damn, he should have been here for the video
and this, this, that, and that.
He comes to the house
that I'm shooting a video at
looking for houses.
So it wasn't like you busy
and some shit.
You understand what I'm saying?
And, um...
Wait, stop.
Stop.
Stop.
So you're saying
you booked him for, like, a video.
He didn't come?
No, no, no, no.
He didn't want to do the video.
He came up with excuses like,
I did a record with Chris,
so we can't do the video.
And I think during that time,
I had like 20,000 to do the video.
He was like, I need 25.
I'm like, bro, it's me.
He was in Boyfriend No. 2 video
when your shit,
you didn't even have Rack City,
none of that shit.
I just embraced you as a person.
You know what I'm saying? When we was in LA,
nigga, you know, we did,
we hung out in the sense of
nigga, we going to Wayne concert,
nigga, y'all need to fire my car, nigga,
whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, we cool.
So, I rated you on that level.
Alright.
Yeah.
But it's time to do the video And this is like my lifeline
Nigga this is like
Right out the Atlantic
So this is my lifeline
This is like my nigga
I really need you for this video
You know
He folded
You feel me
And um
That caused E1 to be like
You know what?
We're going to put a pause on the radio budget.
We're going to put a pause on everything because we can't get the other artists.
We still shot the video, but he wasn't in it.
And it was like I wasn't the man of my word to that label.
You know what I'm saying?
And did you and Tyga ever fix it or no?
It's nothing to fix.
You feel me?
All right.
The younger me would have probably swung on him
any time I ever see him in person.
But the older me is like, you know what?
I'm happy for you.
You got a new record out.
We at the same label again.
Well, no.
For once.
We at the same label.
Dazi.
And I'm happy that you got your freedom
because I don't know what you was going through at the time.
He could have been new to success
and going through whatever he go.
You know how people go through their shit,
like you say,
everybody got their Hollywood moment.
So, I forgive him.
But that's what I was going through at the time.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know,
and who knows what he thought of me.
He could have thought,
yo, that rumor true, whatever.
The only person that reached out to me was Terrence J.
When that rumor fucking happened or whatever.
One of those sister parts?
But other people that knew, other people that know, like, nigga, that's just, you got dog fucked up.
You know, those are like people that, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
Now, you said you had a Lil Wayne story.
You said, you said, I don't remember, you said we were on a roll.
When did I say that?
You said it to us a little while ago, brother.
A little while ago.
When we were on Statics.
Yeah, you did say it.
So, what's your best memory of Lil Wayne? How about that? And he's alive.
Wayne jumped on my song called Rock Bottom for me.
Taz hit me up one day, and he said,
when I was first off the group, he said,
he wanted to sign me to Young Money.
And I couldn't.
He was living in Miami at the time?
Yeah, he was living in Miami.
And he said he wanted to sign me to Young Money.
And I couldn't do it because,
obviously, the situation I told you about before,
like, you know, I was in a contract.
So, but even though that I was, you know, signed to Atlantic or whatever, they still let me go on tour with them.
They still looked out for me.
So that's my brother.
You know what I'm saying?
A big up Mac Maine as well.
But I might get sued for this if I tell y'all the truth.
Tell us the truth.
All right.
This is because, it's not because of the liquor. It's because I just don't give a fuck anymore. Okay. Alright. You're like, alright, guess who we in?
This is cause, it's not cause of the liquor, it's cause I just don't give a fuck anymore.
And if I leave this business, if I die tomorrow, I just want the world to know my truth.
You should know your truth.
Right.
So, I wrote this song, me and Static, it's called Lollipop for a little while.
So during the transition of me going through Pretty Ricky,
you know what I'm saying?
But I went through with Pretty Ricky and they fathered him.
You know, just the bad part of the legal part of everything.
He had my publishing too.
So all the songs that I wrote for Pretty Ricky,
Ground On Me, Your Body,
any record that I was a part of,
I don't own the publishing for it anymore.
I had to give it, I had to sign it away
and get them $500,000.
And then they told me I couldn't say nothing
about anything in the lawsuit.
Right?
Cool.
So, we wrote the song Lollipop.
That was my record.
That was my original record. I can show you the session
that we created it on and everything, you know what I'm
saying, but um, we was-
Production wise and everything was your record?
Huh?
Like production wise, didn't Jim Johnson do the record?
Yeah, Jim Johnson did it, Jim Johnson did the record,
yeah, and um, but you know I used to work with Jim Johnson
a lot back then during those days.
So Jim would send me beats.
This was a time where Diddy was in town, and he had Circle House Studios.
I was about to say, was this at Circle House?
He had Circle House Studios.
I would record at South Beach Studios, which is on South Beach. Yeah, the Marlin Studios.
The Marlin Studios, right?
No, no, no, South Beach.
You remember?
Oh, 7th and Washington.
7th and Washington. 7th and Washington. I was recording there. South Beach. You remember that? Oh, South Beach. It's around. Seventh and Washington.
Seventh and Washington.
I was recording that.
Reality Kings.
Right.
So, shout out to Reality Kings.
Thank you guys so much.
Bang Bros was also late.
Bang Bros, all of them.
Shout out.
Shout out to everybody that jerked off to them, too.
They provided jobs. They provided jobs They provided jobs
So I recorded at that studio
And um
You know um
During that time
He was working on
Dirty Cane
And all
Whatever albums
Did he have
So they sent me over
Some beats
I guess I got the
Whatever beats
You know what I'm saying
One of the beats
Was Lollipop
Okay
So During my sessions Now During those days We would go to the club the whatever beats, you know what I'm saying? One of the beats was Lollipop. Okay.
So during my sessions now, during those days,
we would go to the club, then we would come back
to the studio five, six in the morning and create records.
Lollipop was created drunk as fuck, whatever.
It was a R&B record, right?
So when I introduced Wayne to Static,
well matter of fact, Static performed at Miami Live.
It was just, no, it was a shit called Miami Live at Santos.
That used to go on in Miami.
Live band shit, live band.
So Static was performing there,
and Wayne was there one time,
and he was like, who is that?
And I was like, you know that Static major.
You know that Wayne Mayday?
Mm-hmm.
Because of Miami Live?
No, we did two videos with Wayne.
No, Sam.
When he discovered Mayday, when he recognized Mayday, wasn't that at Miami Live?
Well, I'm confused.
No, yeah, yeah, you're confused.
Okay, I'm confused.
You can't see me.
I'm sorry.
So, Static now, right, he... Wayne said, yo, who is Static, whatever, whatever.
So, now, we go to Atlanta to finish my album or whatever.
Is Static from Miami?
No, no, he's from Louisville, Kentucky.
Okay, yeah.
But we're in Atlanta.
This is like right before he died.
God bless.
And, you know, he's like, yo, Wayne is in.
No, I went to the studio and saw Wayne or whatever, whatever.
So I'm like, I'm about to go do some shows or whatever.
You should meet with Wayne.
So I guess he linked with Wayne.
And then they recorded this song.
It's like, I'm so.
What was the name?
It was some song, Him, Tiger, and Static did.
It was like.
Back then?
Yeah, back then.
It was like, I'm so exquisite.
It was some song that said, I'm so exquisite. Some was some song that said, like, I'm so exquisite.
Some shit like that, right?
But then he played him Lollipop because he asked me during the time, do I want Lollipop?
So you already had this record demoed on your own?
No, no, no.
Not the written, like, Dwayne took it and it was for him.
Oh, okay, okay.
Pretty much, like, it was for him.
Certain elements that I wrote on the song and me and Static wrote on the song,
that's still in the record, but he, like, took it to where it needed to him. Certain elements that I wrote on the song and me and Static wrote on the song, that's still in the record,
but he took it to where it needed to be.
Right, right.
You understand what I'm saying?
And it came out.
So before my solo album came out,
Lollipop got nominated for,
well, it won a Grammy.
Oh, yeah.
But during that part,
I was going through my lawsuit and things like that.
Were they suing you?
Huh? Were the they suing you?
Were the lawsuit suing you?
No, with me trying to get out of the Pretty Ricky contract Okay, clear
Right, so my publisher
Everything tied up
And I was broke and they had no money
So what I did is
I took that record, the percentage that I owned of that record
And I took
Another record called I DigiRoom
You sold it?
I put it in my manager name
at the time
and say,
yo,
we just need the money
to,
you know,
make our career
be what it should be.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
And reinvest in the brand.
So we got a publishing deal
in his name.
So I got a Grammy
with his name on it.
That's not my Grammy.
You made it in his name.
Yeah. He did it right by you You're mad at his name. Yeah.
He did right by you?
Nah, he didn't.
So right now he manages your Gotti.
But I'm calling this nigga now because Drake sampled the record in my feelings record.
So he clearing shit on his own.
All kind of shit like that.
What part in your feelings record did they sample you?
They sampled,
Shawty say the nigga that she with ain't shit.
Shawty say the nigga that she with ain't,
you know, the Lollipop record.
So, of course, because he's a writer on that record,
it's sample, you know what I'm saying?
So he getting the money, but you not seeing it.
Absolutely.
Because he put it in his manager's name, the publisher.
I trust him.
This was my right- hand man at the time
Before he jumped ship
When the rumor came
If I had a better manager
Then I could have dealt with it different
But I listened to him
As a manager
And now
He playing with me
So
You feel me
So imagine
Being an artist
That nigga
If I could have took credit for that
When my album came out
Like yo nigga
I got a Grammy already
Right That would be something totally different And I might get sued for this And whatever If I could have took credit for that when my album came out, like, yo, nigga, I got a Grammy already. Right.
That would be something totally different.
And I might get sued for this and whatever, but...
Why would you get sued for this?
Because it's publishing fraud.
In a sense, no.
Oh, that you put it in his name.
But the only reason I did it was because I was broke
and I didn't have anything.
And I was just trying to be smart.
I was young.
You know what I'm saying?
I was young.
Wow, you are kind of going on a limb saying it.
I don't give a fuck.
No, I mean...
Whoever come back for it, I don't give a fuck.
It's a part of my story.
It's my truth.
You feel me?
You can't be sued if it's your truth.
If I do be sued, you know what?
I'll deal with that shit.
Tell that to the courts, buddy, but yeah.
But you understand what I'm saying?
These are things that we go through as artists
that people don't understand.
Paul, let me stop you from there.
This is why you couldn't come out with a book right now
and say that...
You're saying it's hearsay type of thing.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
I get what you're saying.
As long as it's a part of your life.
Right, right.
If it's a part of your life,
they can't sue you.
If they can't prove it,
then you're lying and you're not telling the truth.
If they can't prove you ain't lying,
then you can't pursue it.
That's your perspective pursue it When Dog started
Yeah
He started like taking credit
For the record
And got plaques in his
Like once I paid him
To get plaques for me
Like yo
Just to feel good about
He got the plaques up
He got
He ordered another
What kind of manager
Or friend is this bro
Nah he ain't a friend
He ain't nothing no more
Fuck
And he only with
Yo Gotti now
Because of me
You understand what I'm saying Like he wouldn't know Yo Gotti He manages Yo Gotti Yeah he with Yo Gotti now because of me. You understand what I'm saying?
Like he wouldn't know
Yo Gotti if it wasn't for me.
He manages Yo Gotti?
Yeah,
he with Yo Gotti every day.
But I never said
I'm the Gotti about it.
Oh, okay.
Gotti don't know
nothing about none of this.
Gotti is solid.
And y'all never like
spoke to the side?
Nothing?
I tried to
but he keep telling me
so now I'm just
telling my truth.
You want to say his name?
We can block it out
if you want.
We'll block it out.
I don't give a fuck
his name.
Rex Amore.
Rex.
The nigga that be with Gotti all the time.
That's my ex-manager who, you know what I'm saying?
Who, whatever, whatever.
Back then, but I don't, I don't, you know what I'm saying?
I don't, I don't, like I try to be like, you know what?
Whatever you did, bro, you jumped ship.
Cool.
You work with Gotti.
I'm happy for you.
But now I said to him, listen, I'll give you your percentage as what you would have made as a manager.
Right, right.
During that time.
Which is fair.
But I need you to sign a letter of direction and give me my shit.
But I can't.
So what does artists like me go through when it comes to that?
Do the Grammy committee.
You know what I'm saying?
Is that something you could holler at Wayne
and be like,
you know,
and you like,
you know,
like,
I don't think,
I think it's,
it has nothing to do with Wayne.
After he changed that,
it had nothing to do with Wayne.
Well,
because once you signed the contract,
you signed it under his name.
Yeah,
it was a publishing thing
under his name.
This had nothing to do with Wayne,
this had nothing,
this all me just trying to survive
as an artist
who don't really know the game
and,
you know, I'm tied up in contracts and I just and I just need to feed my son at the time.
So I just did it thinking that this person going to be around, and that's my brother.
But when times got hard, even harder, he showed his true colors.
So, you know, I got the Grammy.
Oh, you got the Grammy?
It's in his name.
I got it. I should burn it. The song got the Grammy. Oh, you got the Grammy? It's in his name. I got it.
I should burn it.
The song got the Grammy.
But the thing is, how we fell out was I started an independent shit with E1 for the Tiger record.
And I brought in Ne-Yo's management, Team Compound.
And I said, listen, you still don't keep your same you know amount of money or whatever you're gonna keep your percentage but I'm gonna bring your extra
management same as he's doing with Roc Nation now you know I'm gonna bring in I'm gonna bring
in more people because they got better relationships to get us to where we need to be
you know I'm saying and during that time That's when he started Acting funny Wow
So
It was like a time
Where we was doing a video
For I Love Girls
And he's like
Well
You know I need to be
I've never missed a video
And it's like
Nigga we got a team in LA
We don't need you to
Fucking be there for the video
It's a waste of money
I need to get there
Cause we paying for the whole video
And then
You know
Things like that
Made him feel the way he felt.
But it was one day he was like, yo, nigga, Gotti coming in town.
Anytime I go to Memphis, Gotti take care of me.
Anytime Gotti come to Miami, like I've been to Gotti's house, Gotti been to my house.
Yo, I need to take Gotti around to show him in his, you know, his kids' schools and things like that.
Go ahead, take my car, do that.
And he did that.
And then he secured a job with him.
And didn't tell me.
And then I don't know what he told Gotti.
You know what I'm saying?
But I see Gotti all the time now.
And, you know, when I see him in the casino, wherever I see him at, you know.
Gotti out here, he in Miami.
He a good, he a good, no, he still a good person.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
And I don't ever bring it to him like yo cause I just want to see the next man do good
but now you're not doing right by me
and you being like anybody else
in the past so
yeah like I feel like
my career was cheated
I was cheated out of my whole career
and my perception as an artist
and people believe anything that people tell them
and you know what I'm saying?
Like, that's me speaking my truth.
But I don't have nothing to care about anymore,
so I don't give a fuck, you feel me?
I don't care, but I'ma speak out now
and these people should be held accountable for the actions.
But, nigga, I got a Grammy that I worked for
and somebody else named me taking credit
for it.
But you did agree to it
at that time. I agreed to it for the money.
No, he agreed to the deal with
his man.
I say, yo,
I say, yo, we don't got no money, nigga.
We need to eat every fucking day, nigga.
Put it in your name.
If not, it's going to be taken.
If not, it's going to be taken.
It's going to be held up like all the other records that we try to do held up.
So what would have happened if you wouldn't have put it in?
As you say, it would have been taken.
Slimmin' Slide would have took it?
Nah, Pre-Ricky Dad would have held it up.
He would have held the whole record because that's what he was on at the time.
So Wayne, nobody. It wouldn't have benefited. Jim Johnston would have the whole record cuz that's what he was on at the time so Wayne
Nobody it wouldn't it wouldn't have been if it Jim Johnston would have been a fit nobody
Cuz once one person held it up or hold it up niggas is held
So right now even to this day
It's been sink this like that whoever now might try to come help hold it up now that I just said what I said, but I don't care anymore. So, I don't,
I live in my truth now.
Oh, man.
My nigga,
Pleasure P.
We want to tell you,
you appreciate it.
We want to tell you,
we love you over here.
We want to tell you,
this is your platform.
Whenever you want to come over here
and talk some shit,
we're going to make sure
we shoot the train next time.
Fuck the train.
Yeah, fuck the train.
No, the train's a part of our show.
Yeah, great.
The train's a part of our show. Man, the train's a part of our show.
Man, I had no idea.
I'm going to be honest.
I knew a lot of what you were saying, but the majority of what you were saying, that
was just blowing my mind because-
Then that's something I never told anybody.
And the crazy shit was-
Other than the people that know and the crazy shit was
you were
you were like
kind of like
burdened with being
pardon me for my reference
the Beyonce
I don't want to refer
to me as Beyonce
but you know what I'm saying
the breakout
you were like
you were like
like
you don't know what
I'm trying to say
even though my reference is terrible.
So them niggas, they don't understand what it's like to be me and be discredited.
You know how many girls I met?
She vibing me.
She's like, oh, fuck with them.
Then somebody told you.
And it's done.
How many artists that spoke out who didn't know at the time?
And I'm like, dog, I know you wouldn't make it been a lot how many shows I supposed to be booked for
People tell me y'all maybe you can't get booked because this missing that the room like nigga that's been my life
For the last fucking ten years
But I'm still working I'm still here I'm still standing I'm still
You fucking
Helping the people
Who fuck me over
Right
I'm still here
Like I'm still
Providing opportunities
I'm forgiving
You know what
I don't want no problems
With nobody
But this is my truth
Right
Yeah he said
He's helping the people
That fuck them over
That's hell
That's crazy
No but what I meant was
You know
And I still love them
Wow
You a bigger man than me bro Yeah but You know My My No, but what I meant was, you know, and I still love them.
You a bigger man than me, bro.
Yeah, but, you know, everybody's understanding for being on this earth is different.
My understanding is different, so I don't hold on to all those things in the sense of where I'm at today.
I'm just telling you about my past and what I've been through.
All those people, I still love them.
And I just wish they did better at trying to understand where I'm coming from.
And even if they don't, guess what?
At least I spoke my truth.
And at least I told you how I feel.
Even if it's through this platform.
You understand what I'm saying? And I'm not using this platform.
I'm not trying to be the victim.
None of that shit.
You're not really bashing nobody.
I'm standing.
You ain't bashing nobody.
I ain't bashing nobody.
I'm standing.
Understand what I'm saying?
And, you know, that's all I ask from everything.
They father.
They father.
At one point, I felt like, yo Yo he stole all the money from us
And he was this and he was that
But guess what
If it wasn't for that man
I wouldn't be on this platform right now
His money
I don't know how much he spent
So if it took him
I'm a business owner
Nigga my business is under for two years
Sometimes that's just what it takes
So who knows what he was under at the time
So he might have felt that he needed to
Recoup
Who knows
But me and him I'm now in a good place.
You feel me?
And I'll do whatever it takes for him.
If he call me and he say, I don't got nothing, nigga, I'm right there.
Because if it wasn't for you, nigga, I wouldn't be in a position.
I mean, no matter what you did to me or what I thought at the time when I was younger or whatever, that's still my dog.
You feel me?
And that's how I handle shit.
That's a beautiful thing.
Beautiful way to think.
By the way, last question.
So what's in the motherfucking future?
Man, I'm kind of done with the business, bro.
I got like five albums already recorded.
So I'm just going to put them out.
And I'm making my exit.
You know what I'm just gonna put them out But And I'm making my exit You know what I'm saying
And
I'm going into
Franchises in real estate
So
You know
Just
Kind of
I've been doing that for quite some time
And
You know
I'm cool
Like
I don't enjoy performing anymore
Promoters see you
And they try to belittle you
And try to Oh that nigga Will take a show for $3,000.
Motherfucker, who the fuck you think I am?
Nigga, you got me fucked up.
All this shit I'm telling you that I've been through, and you want to try to pay me $3,000, but you'll pay a nigga that, nah, fuck you.
It ain't no, as long as my son got his college money, he about to, he 14, about to be 15.
He about to get a car next year.
I own my property.
I pay my taxes.
I got monthly money, meaning tangible money that I can grab.
Nigga, I'm happy.
You know what I'm saying?
A couple properties I can travel.
I want to travel.
I can eat what I want to eat.
I ain't in Carver Ranch.
It's where I came from.
I'm happy.
Nigga, I feel like I made a difference.
And people try to, well, you ain't got big diamonds.
Nigga, it ain't even about that.
It's about making it out and maintaining it.
You understand what I'm saying?
I still drive a nice car.
God damn it.
I still, I'm still a provider.
God damn it.
You understand what I'm saying?
That's all I care about as an artist and as a person.
And I don't live up to nobody else's standards.
You know what I'm saying?
I wasted money on 30 niggas.
I started a label and tried to bring my own people to be a part of the label.
And they fucked it up.
You know what I'm saying?
I've done my part in my just doing this business.
So anybody watching this,
and even if it's somebody that I just told,
I'm just trying to have my peace in life.
You feel me?
That's more important to me as an artist.
Man, well, we salute you over here for it.
We want you to know.
We love you over here.
Not only this is your platform,
but it's in your hometown. So whenever you want to come over here, you want an event, I don't is your platform But it's in your hometown
So whenever you want to come over here
You want to vent
I don't give a fuck if it's tomorrow
You want to come and you want to vent
You want to talk
Because that's what this is
This to me is hip hop therapy
You know what I'm saying
It's like you sit down
Because the reason why is
We're sitting down
And I'm kicking it with you
And I can fully relate to everything you're And I can fully relate to everything you're saying.
He can fully relate to everything you're saying.
Because we're not journalists, meaning like we're people that's, you know, in college, you know, writing down notes.
No, he is the DJ.
I am the hip hop.
I'm the artist.
So we know exactly what's going on.
This is the reason why This show has been successful
And we want to let you know
As a Miami guy
As a motherfucking R&B legend
This platform is open for you
Anytime you want
You come out
You vent the fuck out
I appreciate your honesty though
I appreciate you coming here
Because
There was things I was going to avoid
You know because
I Google everybody I do
And when certain shit come up Like I ain't going to do that Help me find out because there was things I was gonna avoid, you know, because I Google everybody I do,
and when certain shit come up,
like, I ain't gonna do that.
Help me find out why the fuck every time somebody Google me,
that shit come up.
I know.
And it, you know, belittles me.
You know, people think that about me,
they don't even get to know me.
Mm.
And I ain't suing Google.
I ain't suing nobody. I just gotta find a person that can help me take that shit down chance army my figure yeah the
chance arm is definitely going they're gonna they're gonna be like that's all i ask and
whoever still talk great i don't give a fuck no matter what case i always talk about it was never
a case or nothing like nothing like that right Right. So. It was only a misunderstanding
in terms of
me having a lawsuit
out against the company
and taking certain things
from that lawsuit
and bringing it
to something else
and, you know,
trying to make it
something that it's not.
And they were successful
at doing it.
Twitter was new at the time I'm saying I
didn't know what social media was filming obviously people knew what
social media was just why they make a million dollars off of it but you know
well plus repeat man we want to thank you and not and not to not to bash
anybody because whether it's Tyga,
you know, I love his new single, Taste, or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
It's under Empire.
I love his new single, but I just didn't like how he dealt with that situation.
Trey's songs, we fuck with Trey's songs.
You know, I want to see Dog continue to make music.
Drake, whoever, like, I don't hate anybody.
But I'm just telling y'all my story and my truth.
And you know what I mean?
Blue Star, the guy who fucking, the reason I'm here.
No matter what happened, I still love him and I'm still thankful for him.
Baby Blue was in my group.
We'll probably never be on a level that we were but you know he's a part of my history and
my legacy and you know i wish him the best and all of that so you know i'm saying well big up to you
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