Drink Champs - Episode 153 w/ David Banner
Episode Date: December 21, 2018N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs.On this episode the champs sit down with Missisipi legend David Banner. They talk about everything from politics, religion and racism. Follow Drink Champs htt...p://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And when it comes, when it comes to people who have stood the test of time, when it comes to people, when you think of rap-tivists, an activist that's a rapper, when you think of people who I want on the front line, who I personally want to run for office, when I think of people who I want to speak for my people, period, I think of this brother.
You know what I mean? I call him often at times and I just kick, and I just ask for advice. When we think of
us running our own community, this is one of the very
first people, him, Killer Mike.
And
when I Googled him today,
and I Googled all
the production he's done,
whoo! Holy moly!
Quack-a-moly! And he's
here. He's still in the test of time.
Like I said, I knew him since the early 2000s.
About 20 years.
20 years.
I texted Tim Rifkin the other day, and Steve Rifkin said,
David Banner is a one-man army.
Wow.
And it was so dope.
So if you don't know who I'm talking about,
we're talking about motherfucking David Banner.
Make some noise!
All right, so listen.
I got some stuff I want to tell y'all cool cool, but today y'all gonna have to change
Oh, okay
The last time you get to X I'm a large now
So, okay. These are the very very rare Wow
We only given a like this is only a hundred made okay of the black fist bomber jet
Hey, yo, okay good look goddamn easy my car right now, bro
Thank you so much. You got put sauce on
So no, we got a really um special gift for both of y'all.
You got vinyl?
I see vinyl right there.
Wait, wait, wait.
Get hype.
But I got the limited God Box vinyl for you.
Wow.
Woo!
My man.
My man.
This is Nori.
Nori, I got a surprise for you.
It's actually coming.
OK.
It'll be here in about 15 minutes.
That's beautiful, man.
Listen, man.
David Banner.
Hold on, wait.
Before you get into it, I want to say something before we get started, man.
Please.
I feel like I'm fucking special.
Yes, you are.
Because I was before the television show.
Absolutely, yeah.
So, like, you know, they got before Christ.
I'm before TV.
You know what I'm saying?
And to see what it's become now, man, like,
I'm humbled, man, for y'all to even let me be a part
of the first generation, man.
And the thing that both of y'all don't know
is that we all, we both had separate relationships
even before y'all connected.
And we all talk on the phone separately.
And I was telling him, as well as you,
how proud I am that you all were able to get out of the box.
Thank you.
Because when we get any type of success,
whether it's a DJ, a rapper,
people don't want to see you do shit ass.
You know what I'm saying?
And they don't want to see it elevate to a bigger platform.
Because I told somebody something,
and I think it upset them.
I told them, I said,
one day I'm gonna be
bigger than all of this shit it's like people want they kill each other to be
the best rapper but it's something so much bigger out here man something so
much bigger to do somebody said bro it ain't what you what people talk about
you in 20 years or how they talk about you in 20 years is what the fuck they
say about you in 200 years whether they even talking about your ass at all right you feel what i'm saying that legacy the
stuff that we do brother legacy is what matters bro i think in 200 years tupac will be talked
about like jesus i hope so bro i hope i hope that he don't have white skin. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Because in 200 years, that'd be the time
to mature a white boy.
Because you know what's the crazy thing?
I'm sorry to get straight into it.
But you know the crazy thing?
The more that we hear about Jesus,
oh, this is the EFM, right?
Bring me the joint.
The more that we hear about Jesus,
ain't he like the homie from the hood?
Right.
Like, what I mean by that is,
you ever met a killer?
Like, I mean, you ever heard of a killer
And then as time go on everyone has a different story about this. This is this guy from another and this seems like Jesus
It's like a myth. Yeah
I would say it's a myth because I'm saying becomes that all things that becomes that
But the person is not let me tell you amazing thing, though. It's when your enemy knows that you're bigger than them, so they co-opt you.
That's what they did.
Jesus was a black revolutionary.
So they did Jesus like they did Tupac.
I mean, like they did Malcolm X.
They knew they couldn't stop Malcolm X, so they took him and put him on a cap.
So to these kids, he was nothing but an X on a cap.
So they turn you into a caricature
That's why it's important for us to tell our own stories
You know what I'm saying
And it's up to us to check a motherfucker
Like E if if if if if
50 years from now
You know God fearing that
That it never happened
But let's say you pass
And a motherfucker tell a story that ain't correct
We gotta check them motherfuckers.
Like, nah, that's some motherfucking bullshit.
And we have to stop leaving it to people who don't really give a fuck about our coaches to tell our stories.
We got to shoot up.
We should have shot the stories of our heroes.
Black Panther.
Black Panther, Pac, whatever.
We can't sit back and criticize was a Vinny Vinny no no but when I when I say when I say not it not
I mean us as a culture you mean like even a studio I mean let me tell you
something that I really respected okay when I was living in LA you just tank up
and make no movie about Mexican culture right in LA. You just can't up and make no movie
about Mexican culture in LA.
Somebody gonna die in this bitch.
Like for real.
It happened in American media.
And that's exactly.
Made by them.
So that's how it needs to be about black culture.
It can't just be one name,
because what they'll do a lot of times
is they'll go hire that one black face
so they can blame whatever happens on that one black face.
Can I go a little deeper for you?
Yes, always.
Can I go hip-hop culture?
Yes.
Can it be like that for hip-hop culture?
Like for right now, I forget who it is that they're suing.
I think it's Bobby Brown suing somebody for using the likeness of Whitney's likeness.
Shouldn't we do that?
Oh, is it the album cover?
It's something that they use of Whitney.
It wasn't Pusha T's album cover?
No, it's not Pusha T.
They did get mad about that.
Yeah, they paid.
But they still got mad about that.
They still got mad about it.
Bobby Brown.
Bobby was mad about it.
But shouldn't we have some type of stimulation in hip-hop
where if you want to make a hip-hop movie,
if you want to even be involved with the culture,
you've got to have some type of stripes.
Oh, yeah. Like, for instance, right culture, you got to have some type of stripes. Like for
instance, right now, right?
There's this big little thing. I keep going
at this guy. His name is Zane Lowe, right?
Zane Lowe works for Apple.
He gets all these big interviews and I just don't
know his credentials.
Not saying he doesn't have any, but I'm just
saying I don't know him. I'm not aware of
him. And I'm hip hop. I've been in this
fucking shit for 21 years. I got an album about to be 21. But what I'm not aware of them. And I'm hip-hop. I've been in this fucking shit for 21 years.
I got an album about to be 21.
But what I'm trying to say is
as opposed to Zane Lowe
just coming in and just being a part of this
culture, we should have
a council where
listen, okay, we feel like you got the stripes to be.
And it's not about race. It's not about
race. You know what I'm saying? It's about
your stripes in hip-hop. What do you feel about that? Well, for me, it is about race. It's not about race. You know what I'm saying? It's about your stripes in hip-hop.
What do you feel about that?
Well, for me, it is about race.
But I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying.
It definitely is about race.
But what I'll say is this, bro, is that's how we should be about everything that comes as it pertains to our culture.
I really believe, and this is only my personal opinion, that hip-hop,
we gave hip-hop away.
You know? And
I said this. I actually said it
here
at the Revolt music conference.
I was like, yo, bro, we
criticized these kids, but we
were the ones that told them
money over everything.
So we told them it's about the bag white people
have have killed raped and done everything to own most of the resources on this planet
so if you say it's all about the bag you're basically saying you sold your soul to white
folks like come on because they're the one that you're getting the money from i was telling
somebody recently like bro I'm shooting
movies cartoons and for the most part just like the god box I paid for that
100% and people say why don't you want investors well if you want to give me
your money I'll take your money but what people don't understand sometimes they
pay you money just so you won't make the final achievement to learn that you
really don't need them in the first place
So if you build your company and then you sell it before it really blows
It's like buying a company out to take out the competition
Right
Like I found out my generation of rappers in the south we were doing so good independently
You know one of us flip was selling like a 120,000 copies. The South Park Mexicans
were selling like 180,000.
Pastor Troy
was doing his thing.
The Bay Area was doing their thing.
And what they did was, they gave
all of us more money than we had
seen at one time in one sitting
individually, but we didn't
look at the money that we were making as a
collective. So then they signed us all and then moved us out of the way and
then they absorbed the whole independent movement then after that the mom-and-pop
stores went out of business then they went and attacked like Gonzales oh man I
got a $70,000 check one time from I forgot the distribution company Texas
was it yeah
it was out of Texas easy to distribute my mixtapes yeah like like like bro we
were making so much and what we didn't understand was these big corporations
was like yo collectively they're like R Kelly collectively they're like a
Beyonce I'm even though Beyonce wasn't out at the time I'm just saying and what
they ended up doing was using us all as a tax write-off
and then we were no longer competition
to us and most of us got phased
out. The reason why they couldn't phase me
out is because I was a producer.
So I can make my own
records and I had my own, like,
our relationship. I had my own relationship.
People don't even know this. I
built a studio
when I was homeless
In my van
I used to do drops for DJs
And verses for MCs
DJ be like I need a drop
I would do it in my van
I got one of those electrical regulators
That you hook into the
The cigarette lighter
Had my studio in
Since none of my homeboys
Wanted to go on the road with me
I built a studio
And if you go back and listen to Mississippi
The album, the interludes
You can hear the cars pass
Like that's why I tell these kids
It ain't no excuse
Like for me I tell the person
If I want to do a deal with you
Don't tell me no
Tell me what it's going to take
Even if it's a fucking billion dollars.
But if I bring a billion and slap it
on this motherfucking table, bitch, let's do business.
You feel me?
Make some noise for that.
So when we usually interview people,
we always go through their playlist,
we always go look at their videos.
And one thing that struck me was the Confederate flag
on Like a Pimp, right?
Wow, wow wow and the
thing about it was it was i seen the video i'm looking at the video i'm watching it right here
i put my hood on and i'm watching it not only did you have a confederate flag but you was
busting through it but you also had crosses in there and we cut off the head of the clue
class clan member and pushed over the flat and pushed over the cross you did that video because
how how the fuck you did that back then and That's the thing that I keep telling people.
People thought I just got conscious
four years ago.
Bro, I was conscious then. I was just high.
Angry and mad.
I tell a motherfucker all the time, how can you dream
if you don't have a bed to sleep in?
The consciousness couldn't manifest
because I wasn't eating right.
I was drunk. I was mad.
I was angry.
I needed to fucking pay my fucking bills.
And then I went from homeless to being a millionaire in a week.
Imagine that.
Imagine only a small amount of people knowing you to 30% of the people on this planet knowing you.
And then they announced you had a $10 million deal.
And you're from the poorest state
That's a mind fuck
That's more than a mind fuck
And then the thing was
I didn't know how to turn it off
But the thing that you say
I tell people that all the time
I say listen
Since you think I just got conscious
Go listen to Like a Pimp
But turn the music off
But that show you how
Even we
Only listen
To what white people give us
We only listen to What they say or the single that they put out.
Just like you said, bro, I burned the clock, ripped the Confederate flag up, threw that bitch back at the camera.
Cut the Ku Klux Klan.
It was funny because I really didn't think MTV was going to play that shit.
And then what's funny, MTV played the real version,
and BET was the one that cut all the, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, what the fuck?
And it's all Viacom, too.
What did you think about Kanye when you see him rock the Confederate flag?
Because, see, you were making a point, and correct me if I'm wrong.
When I look at the video now, that years later,
you're actually ripping through the Confederate flag.
Like you say, you're cutting off the Ku Klux Klan.
But Kanye tried to wear it as a fashion statement.
And he tried to,
and it was like the ooh, the shock and value, you know.
And how did you feel about it?
Because Andre wore it too.
Let me tell you how I feel, Nori.
Like I said, you've been knowing me for 20 years.
You've been knowing me for about 15.
Yep.
I don't like talking about other men.
Right.
I get it.
To me, that's high school shit.
Right.
If people are so angry at Kanye, then why everybody give him so much motherfucking attention?
Hold up.
And the thing is, I'll comment about how I feel about it
The thing is
It's similar to what you said about the movies
People do shit because they're comfortable
Everybody, even black people
Is too comfortable with black culture
If a motherfucker felt like they was going to get their ass snatched up
They would be very hesitant
About some of the things that they do in our culture
Let me reiterate the question Because perhaps I didn't say it correct.
What I meant was because the Confederate flag means something specifically to people from the South.
No, to the whole nation.
To the whole fucking nation.
The world is a world symbol.
And it's never been for black people.
And I add something to that.
Okay.
As a Southerner, I feel the same way about the Confederate flag.
I feel the same way about the word nigga as I feel about the Confederate flag.
Wow.
Like, everybody is all willy-nilly and anybody can say the word nigga.
Call me a nigga.
I'm going to beat your ass.
I'm going to fuck who you are.
And then I've gotten to the point now it's some black folks that can't
call me a nigga.
And the thing is, it's because
southern people went through a different type of
pain. The Honorable
Minister Louis Farrakhan said something
to me. He called me to a, well, I guess I
can't say. He called me to a secret meeting.
And he told me, he said,
David Banner, he said, I don't even want you to
be Muslim. I'm like, for real?
He said, because you have a following that a lot of people don't have.
Don't nobody know whether you're Christian, Muslim, atheist.
So everybody comes, and they listen to you.
He said, you're one of the few people you can go wherever you want to,
West Coast, East Coast, Muslim, Christians.
That's funny.
I was in a Christian church in Mississippi
and told them they were gods.
And afterwards, they got up
and clapped. You can't go
to church in Mississippi and say nothing
unless you got Jesus before.
But what he was telling me
was, is that
Southerners
have the potential to be the greatest leader
because they've been Through the most oppression
So the fact that
I have a great uncle
That was hung
For a fucking real
Wow
So
When black folks
Give other people
The
I
I will tell you something
This is something
That I've only said
One other place
The most
Damn
The most Disappoint The most Dis the most disappointing moment for me in hip-hop
was niggas in paris because to me that was the international okay for everybody to say the word
nigga i traveled internationally and when i was at my worst nor you know when i was out there bad
all right when i toured internationally i didn't say my worst, and you know when I was out there bad. Alright.
When I toured internationally, I didn't say the word nigga.
And you know every other word was nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.
I always felt a certain way in Europe, like saying that.
And if you notice, and this is no attack at either one of those great MCs,
but it was like, notice afterwards.
Because bro, I looked and I realized that in africa my generation we were the ones pop
generation in my generation was the ones that taught africans the word nigga africans didn't
know the word nigga we taught them that and if we are gonna take the responsibility for hip-hop
like you say we should we gotta take responsibility for the fuck ups. Right. I fucked up bad.
Right.
So a lot of people, they applaud me for what I do socially,
but a lot of that shit I'm trying to pay back my debt
to my people, dog.
Right.
We was wild as fuck.
I remember for a long time, I was mad at you
when you said fuck you and your weak religion.
I was like, oh, oh, this motherfucker.
And then I met you, you was the coolest motherfucker
in the world.
I was like, that was the same motherfucker.
But like seriously, like for real man, like,
we, bro, we got some making up to do.
Yeah, that's true.
And we can't blame these children,
because these children, they come here with no brain, bro.
Like, we're a direct result of Tekashi 6ix9ine.
But we are.
Let me just make my point,
and I'll pass it back.
Like, everything that you see bad
about Tekashi 6ix9ine
is directly R4.
And what I mean by that is...
We've been saying that on this show for a while.
No, but I want to...
If you don't correct
something like if i see you knowing that you're doing something wrong and i don't say nothing
about it i'm just as guilty right as you i i think but i think with him i think for these kids who are
black uh-huh who came up who who latino who are inside of the culture, I would take that comment and say yes,
because when I said yes, I didn't mean,
I had to think about who you were talking about.
They are guests, some people are guests to our culture.
Right.
And they look at the weaknesses,
because I even look at a lot of rappers, bro,
who on TV, they play the dumbest
motherfuckers in the world and i know they're the smartest motherfucker like him he actually
was a smart kid so what they're doing is they're taking advantage of what's happening to our people
who don't have a choice of whether they're smart or dumb i think i think we're trying to say a
simplest form is these people are acting when we didn't know that you can act
when we came out we didn't know you can that that was really look i looked at all your videos from
from them that was really you like you look at all my videos that was really me that's like like
one of the reasons too is because our culture you and the south whether you was acting or not
if you were acting you couldn't cut that shit off Cause you had to go through Birmingham
You had to go through Lafayette, Louisiana
And the motherfuckers gonna pull your chain
And see if you really the motherfucker
You say you are
And so like
Would you being able to go straight from the internet
To being a star
And not having to go to these cities
Until you have
There's no training why none
it's just like sorry to cut you off it's just like one of the biggest problems is when you took away
the chicago and you look you took away all the the gang leaders and for all the bad things that
gang is when you took away the gang leaders look at the look at look at look at chicago that's
probably the worst place because because they took away our structure
because we policed ourselves.
The hierarchy.
You know what I'm saying?
I went to competing green.
To tell you the truth,
it was the most dangerous, safest place
I ever went to in my life.
It was dangerous if you didn't know
who the fuck he was with.
And it was safe because once you knew
who the hell he was with,
they laid out the red carpet for me.
You just touched on one of the most relevant
topics in the world
and most people don't understand it.
Just so y'all will know know what the Chicago officials did.
They complained about Chicago.
They know what they did.
What they did is they manipulated the RICO laws.
So what happened was if you are higher up or you are a regional, you are elder in the gangs.
What people don't know about gangs, they actually have a beautiful structure.
Yeah.
Like unless somebody blasted you directly. all right like you gotta go get permission
you gotta work to the higher ups them motherfuckers knew what they did so let's say
if you were my higher up yep and i killed somebody they gave me 10 years you get 10 years too
all right whether you knew about it or not they knew what they did so what they did was they soaked
up all the elders and when they soaked up all the elders
And when they soaked up all the elders
They were no more struck
Larry who was in everyone under him and everyone above him
And to put it to relevancy of right now
Let's show Narcos for example
I haven't seen Narcos
But if you watch Narcos it talks about the beginning of the Mexican cartels
But this is an example
For how it's been done for years
The whole thing is Cut the head off of a snake And this is an example for how it's been done for years right the the whole thing
has cut the head off of the snake right what do and this is the old mexican the original mexican
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So watch this.
Let's bring it back to hip hop.
That's the same thing they're doing in hip hop.
They don't want the older rappers with the younger rappers because they don't want the older rappers to teach the younger rappers the game.
I look at somebody like Chuck D.
Imagine what Chuck D right now
could do with one hit record.
He would be rich for the rest of his fucking life
because we know the fucking game.
I told somebody this recently, man.
Fucked his head up.
He came to me and he was like,
Yo, I'll give you 40% Of all the proceeds on your song
I said sir
I get 90 already
Alright
See I've been through so much
I know every aspect of the rap game
Alright
You know
And I was even telling people that about streaming
T.I. was the only other person I heard talk about this
Bro they got everybody excited about streaming
Why would an artist be excited
about streaming? You were getting pennies before.
Now you're getting fractions
of pennies. And all streaming is
is you going to somebody else's site
and they're playing your music over and over again
and you send somebody else to another
corporation. The corporation gets paid
before you do to play
your music. When we had just
learned how to burn our own CDs had just learned how to burn our
own CDs we learned how to market our own distribution we gotta stop for a second
we got a surprise okay so this is the surprise to give our surprise you so I
need you all these international sizes yeah sizes, bro. All right, so give me mine.
Yeah, these are yours right here.
These two.
Okay, so.
That's from Noriega.
You got the records.
So I was able to get one, and I'm going to tell y'all what it is.
Brian Samuel is a black-owned, high-end shoe designer.
I'm talking about on the level of Christian Louis Vuitton.
Don't tell him how much it costs,
just look at the price tag, Nori, right there.
Okay.
Hold on, I'll show you right there,
look at that right there.
Okay, goddamn.
So, this is what I'm about to do, you all.
Show it to him.
Okay, pull it out.
And I'm inking the deal with him right now.
Okay.
So let me tell y'all what I'm doing so you would know
Okay
I am trying to own every fucking thing that I own
Everybody talks about white supremacy
I don't look at white supremacy as a bad thing no more
You know what white supremacy is to me?
Anytime somebody shows me white supremacy
That means that's something else I need to own.
If you don't let me be Superman,
then fuck it,
I'll make my own superhero.
You boys,
you Christian Louboutin,
you don't want black folks
in your motherfucking shoes.
You Gucci,
y'all act funny
when black folks come
in your motherfucking store,
then I'm on it.
And when my shoes come out,
I don't want to hear
one motherfucker complain
about the price of my shoes
because you would spend
$3,000
on a motherfucker that hates you.
So it's like everything
on this planet that I see.
Like, I was talking to a motherfucker
today, I want to own water.
One of the reasons why they'll never stop killing
our people is because we need their water
and their motherfucking electricity.
That's what I want.
It's to a point right now, you can't even go to the shade tree motherfucking mechanic. Y's what I want. It's to a point right now,
you can't even go to the shade tree motherfucking mechanic.
Y'all ain't drinking enough.
This drinks it.
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking to you, my brother.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Ask me, I want wine or champagne.
I mean, I want wine or champagne.
Champagne?
Okay, let's go.
But what I'm saying is,
and what I'm saying is,
is like I look at everything that they do to us. Like, bro, I'm going to tell and what I'm saying is, is like, I look at everything that they do to us.
Like, bro,
I'm going to tell y'all
the real secret, bro.
Whether it comes
into fruition or not,
I am paying a whole,
I ain't going to tell y'all.
I can't tell y'all.
But I'm making plans
for us to have a place to stay.
Right.
A place for us to go.
Right.
And that's something
that we can't talk about.
We got to stop running
our mouth on TV
all the fucking time
because if I say it right now,
they go,
but I'm really,
and the sad thing about it,
I said when I came on here
because I had wrote down,
remember when we talked,
I had wrote down
all the stuff
I wanted to talk about,
but I said I didn't want
to make it too heavy,
but I do want to say this.
One of the problems
in our community
is that most black people don't want to say this. One of the problems in our community is that most black people don't want to
be black. See, when other people start corporations, like you look at Donald Trump, you look at the
shit that just happened in Mississippi, a motherfucker come and tell you that they're
racist. Wait, the lady that says he wanted to get a front row to hang in? That's Mississippi, right?
Yeah. They will tell you that they racist,
but a motherfucker
that support black people,
they act like they ashamed
of their black constituency.
And they won't even say
what they going to do
for black people.
That's why I don't support
these motherfuckers.
If you can't tell me
straight up and down,
these motherfuckers
will tell you
that they racist
and that they support
certain motherfuckers
and you can't even say
what your agenda is for black people because you act like you embarrassed so
if you embarrassed of us that you embarrassed of my motherfucking vote and
I am a Republican I am a Democrat I'm thinking motherfucking sentient being I'm
a fucking god so you don't come to me and tell me about history of voting and
all that bullshit bitch you should gonna do for my people that's all i want to know i don't give a fuck if you a clan member if you got an agenda
for black folks some of these motherfucking clan members that do better than some of the
motherfucking black folks that's running because you're fucking democrat and you lazy and you ain't
doing shit anyway so if you don't say it or write it down on a sheet of paper, I ain't fucking with you.
You got some champagne right there, too.
So, sorry, did you see Black Class, man?
No, I didn't.
I love that movie, man.
I feel like I'm the only black person who saw it.
I swear to God, everybody.
I was spending time writing the movie.
I came back to it.
Well, it's funny because it's a true story.
It's a true story how a black man really just answered the phone and infiltrated the Ku Klux Klan.
And I really enjoyed the movie because he gets these other people arrested.
And this one cop felt up this black sister.
And at the end, he had to take it.
But then at the end, he got him arrested.
So it was like, it was a dope little movie.
I think Spike Lee, it was real.
I'm sorry to change the subject.
Oh, no, man, it's dope.
But what I will say, man, is like,
and we have to get these political people
to tell us and say what they're going to do on TV.
That's the contract.
And afterwards, we got to hold them to it.
How do we feel about a Florida guy, Andrew Gillum,
and then what's the ladies in Atlanta?
Because you live in Atlanta, correct?
I live, well, I have to tell you where I live.
I am from Mississippi, but I live on this planet.
I live wherever the job is. God damn is. You know what I'm saying?
This is how I feel,
man. And this is how I feel.
And I really want to say this.
I think our people have
gotten lazy. And we
want a one-step deal
to solve all of our problems.
Politics is only a component.
Like, if you look
at Asian people, for the most part,
they're not really involved in politics
because they own every fucking thing
that has to do with their life.
They created their own infrastructure
within their own microcosm.
So they don't have to worry about politics
because the only thing you can really do
is raise their fucking taxes.
And that don't matter
because their money's going to go up
as the taxes go up anyway.
For me, it's about just what I say.
Own it your own shit.
Because what I'm going to start doing, I'm telling everybody right motherfucking now.
I'm about to do some things, and by the time people find out about it, I'm going to be the man with too much money.
It ain't going to matter no.
I'm going to start buying politicians and treating them like whores.
Because that's all they are anyway.
They're fucking whores.
So, ho, and I'm not saying a whore has to be a woman,
ho, if I give you this money for your campaign,
and you don't do what I say, bitch,
I'm gonna come slap you.
And I mean literally, oh, well, actually we can't say that.
They'll convict us for that.
I am not condoning it.
Fuck that, yes we are, slap that bitch.
You know, man, I'm so motherfucking proud of y'all, man.
I know what I want though.
I saw on the internet, there's some special Patrick Ewers around this motherfucker.
Oh no, no, we got you, we got you.
Around this guy, the five.
What size, what size are you?
13.
Ladies, that's literally a figure 10.
Nah, I just, I just, because I want people to know this.
Can I say that for a minute?
Okay, yeah.
Ladies, I mean literally or figuratively.
Damn.
Hold on one second.
Hold on one second.
Hold on, because I just want people to know because this is not rehearsed.
Yo, Ray.
What up?
You're live on the podcast
without saying too much things.
What was I told you not to bring tonight?
Because I didn't want to show everybody.
You told me not to bring the big surprise
because you didn't want to get drunk
and start showing off
when we're not supposed to show anybody.
But you could just say what it is.
So, I didn't say there's some shit
I'm not supposed to say.
Just say what it is. It's a say what it is just say what it is
All right cool, what love I hit you back
Okay This ever so good It came out And he was like I got my own I already knew about it I seen them already
You wanna know why
Okay
Cause I got one of those too
Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay
So we
Just so we all know
Yeah yeah yeah
But I'm with that
I'm
I feel like that's the way
You know
You know
You know what I
I said the other day
Right We had T.I. on here
T.I. said that he's an activist
He said he's a rapper
He said he's a trapper
He said he'll kiss your girl in the mouth
And then he'll motherfucking break up the Sunday school church
And march
And I said we need more people like that
He said the dopest shit
He said why can't I be all of them
I'm human
Him he said that
And Nipsey Hussle
Said something that was so fucking profound
And I've been drinking
So Nipsey, if I misquote you
He said, I'm not that smart
I just didn't quit
Them kids need to hear that
One of the biggest problems
Is we make people heroes
You need to know that
Martin Luther King got some side pussy.
Yeah.
So if you fuck up and get some, well, if you fuck up, then people will know, well, okay, David Bowie.
Because I'm going to tell you what I do.
It's serious.
I fuck up one time every year.
But I try to do, when I went to jail that time in D.C., that wasn't no person.
But I try to fuck up every year, and I try to control it.
So kids see.
And clarify that.
I do some dumb shit.
Do some dumb shit.
On purpose.
You get drunk.
On purpose?
Like you try to reach your quota once a year?
Yeah, once a year.
I try to make sure once a year I do something.
Balance.
Well, balance and to show these kids that it's okay to not be.
That's my point I was trying to bring up.
And that's why this show is so important.
I don't drink on TV.
Motherfuckers need to see Dave Bannacuda's fuck.
He drink back here too.
And he going back and forth.
But my point was, when our parents send us away,
when people in the hood just say,
it's nighttime, you got to go home, I wouldn't listen to a person who wasn't respected.
Right.
I would, if it was a local guy that was a preacher, you got to go home, kid.
I'm looking at this guy, what the fuck?
But if it was a drug dealer, if it was a guy that's well-respected in the hood, he say, you know, Nori, Poppy, excuse me, you got to go upstairs.
I'll listen to him.
Bro, you got to do something about left rack, bro,
because people don't understand how real left rack is, bro.
Like, I got some partners outside of you that's from left rack that.
Well, it's being better now.
Well, now it's being gentrified.
No, what my homeboy said about left rack now is it's gentrified up until about 7 o'clock.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
And then it come right back. I'll be honest. I'll be honest
Oh, this is probably the fuck them shit about mother is the police and the hood gotta understand it everything goes on this
But it gotta be on that side, but it's actually no violence the violence has went down and that's the reason
That's important, bro, is because for kids to see where we came from, bro.
Like when I was growing up, Jackson, Mississippi was the murder capital of the United States.
You know, and that's the reason, one of the reasons why I did the God Box, bro.
Because, go ahead.
Pardon me for jumping around, but you being from Mississippi.
Right.
And you hearing that, what was she, a councilwoman?
Yeah.
Because she said it in public's eye.
She was running for.
And didn't laugh.
No, she's not a councilwoman.
She was running for, what was she?
Somebody Google it.
She didn't.
The guy Googled her.
And she didn't apologize for it.
I'm happy about that, though, bro.
Bro, let me tell you this, man.
Because the most dangerous races are the hidden races, not the ones that you. And she pulls about that, though, bro. Bro, let me tell you this, man. Because the most dangerous races
are the hidden races, not the ones that...
But this is what
it is, though. I don't understand why...
I don't understand why black people
want shit to be
covered up again. Like, motherfuckers real live
want a Hillary Clinton
when we still
getting our ass beat. For the first
time with Trump, a liberal white
person said, maybe
it is that bad. Y'all remember
when I was on CNN and I got
about 10,000 followers
because of this shit. The lady said,
it's pretty rough in America
right now. And I told her, I said, for black
folks, it's been about 400 years.
And everybody was like
that motherfucker said it on CNN
what the fuck
and liberal white
people are saying
black people were not lying
it's fucked up
be real all the shit we see on TV
we not surprised about that shit
that's why when NWA
came out and said fuck the police
We was like fucking yes
When David Banner came out
Ripping up the confederates
The thing is
If we don't allow
Them to show their face
When the retaliation
Or the reprimanding comes
Then you gotta think
We not just white people,
but we paint a picture
that people of culture are savages.
Because white America pays us.
Go ahead, think about it.
America pays two people.
The black person with no culture at all,
you can't see no no beard no nothing and the
stalk raving unapologetic nigga those are the two stereotypes they want so
when which is like a Bobby Smurda uh uh uh uh six nine I mean it's it's to me
won't you when you name a specific person, then you make it personal.
No, when in actuality, it's a mindset.
And we were the ones that told him to go get the bag.
So being a nigga, it's true.
Or being a whatever you are like, we were drug dealers because we didn't have a choice.
It's true.
Like, dog, man, I've been trying to get this money.
I'm a hustle and I'm gonna get out.
One of the biggest things that's happening where I'm from,
the drug dealing
isn't the problem, it's the middle class drug
dealer. Because they start snitching
before they even get the deal.
Because them motherfuckers,
they ain't never been in jail, they ain't never had to
fight. You know, it's
easy to kill a motherfucker with a pistol.
A baby can do that.
My uncle always said, a real man
will stab a bitch.
When you get up close to a motherfucker
and get some blood on your hand, you a man then.
I said this.
I said this on one of my old records.
If you a real
man choke a bitch
with your bare hands,
that's what I want to see choke a motherfucker
out watch his life bleed out his fucking mouth that's the real that's where i come from you're
gonna huh you're gonna oh yeah oh 30 40 well see i don't know whether it's 30 or 40 because
somebody broke into one of my cars oh god so i'm still trying to figure out Like dog I own
And I'm gonna tell you exhibit right and CeeLo right young to my little green. Yeah
People I ever seen the head Morgan
My favorite my favorite gun is I have a Navy issue ar-15
It's a short one with the Mickey Mouse clip on it.
You know what I'm saying?
With the 100-round Mickey Mouse clip on it.
Big Chris saw that shit.
Yeah, you're doing that just to show off.
No.
I'm doing it.
That clip is to show off.
Let me ask you a quick question.
No, that's not true.
I'm going to tell you the difference
between me and other people.
No, the clip.
No, no, no.
Watch this.
Who came here with me?
You, by yourself.
When you see me, what am I always?
By myself.
So you see how many motherfuckers in this room?
Let's say if y'all didn't like me, what do I have to have?
I need a hundred.
Motherfuckers always saying, better to be judged by 12 than cared by 6.
I'm killing everybody.
And I'm not joking. I'm talking about judged by 12, then killed by 6. I'm killing everybody. And I'm not joking.
I'm talking about innocent bystanders.
I'm talking about rats, dogs, and a little lamb.
I'm getting out this motherfucker.
I don't care if I gotta go through a motherfucker asshole.
I'm shooting through his ass.
And I'm gonna create a hole big enough for my big ass to run through it.
Like, for me, nothing is for show.
Because my dad taught me, my dad gave me a gun at 10.
And my dad said, if you show it, you blow it.
Right.
That was our rule.
That's the right way.
So you're not gonna see my clip,
if you see my clip,
It's gonna be real.
And hold on, this camera, can you come to me?
Cause my brother need to see my face.
You see my clip, that be the last thing you see in your life.
Yeah.
That's the reason why I train physically.
The last thing, I said a prayer before I got my first gun that I would never have to do some of the stuff I did before.
Well, actually, no, that wasn't my prayer.
My prayer is that I would never have to kill a man with these guns.
Like, I'd rather have a gun and not need it.
One of my friends came into my house and was like, bro, what you need all this shit for?
And why do you have them out?
In my house, if you kick in my door, there's a gun in every position.
If I'm cooking, it's one under the stove.
But is it, I'm pardon me for cutting you off, but I want you to get right back to this.
But I rented a house in Malibu one time.
And a lady who I rented it from
had the same exact setup.
But everywhere she went,
you had to put your fingerprint on it.
Like, so she had one under the thing.
You had to release it.
So she had guns all over the house.
The shit was ill.
Which is dope.
Let me ask you a question.
But you had to put a fingerprint on it.
Both of you all come from the same environment
I come from.
Yeah. One second is the difference between what that's true
I am oh if I'm gonna put my fingerprint it's gonna be on the fucking trigger and I'm squeezing that bitch
You know anything is if you if you if you study the state of Mississippi and you look at there's almost no
Accidental gun and we are open gun state like as a matter of fact
Mississippi pushes you to have a fucking gun you ever seen a burning cross
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Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something
about white folks in Mississippi.
If I had to pick a white person
on this planet,
it would be a white person
from Mississippi.
Because you think of
their past history
they're trying to make up?
If a white person in Mississippi love you they'll die for you if they hate you
they'll kill you that's all I want right I want to know where you stay if you see
a white person past a certain street in Mississippi you know you know he or she
really fuck what well probably fucking, but I mean the females
at least. Literally,
they really fuck with us.
Real live. And that's all I want
is the truth.
Don't do like they did in New York
where they hang around you for 80
years and then they stealing your pension.
And then you about to retire and you figure
out that motherfucker who been smiling in your face
giving you coffee every day
You going to they child's bar mitzvahs or whatever
This motherfucker done stole your whole fucking pension
No the white folks in Mississippi
If they fuck with you they fuck with you
If they don't they don't
And that's all I fucking want
And that's the point that we didn't finish about the politics
Let's finish that point
With the lady right
She was running for senate
Yeah she was running for a Senate position.
Thank you. I'm supposed to know that.
The thing is
is don't you want to really know
what's going on in your state
so you can fix it?
Don't you really want to know how America
feels about you?
Why do you want to live a lie?
In the Matrix, the white dude said,
I know the steak doesn't exist,
but it tastes so good.
Motherfuckers know we live in a lie.
I want to see all y'all racism.
Because think about this.
This is something people never talk about.
Obama was a direct result
of how bad Bush fucked up
So if we get
These motherfuckers
Who are real live
They show they fucking face
Then we can really get to fixing shit
Because I'm going to tell you all a secret people don't know
A lot of these
Different people
They had their representatives to call me.
David Bannon, we need your support.
I don't want your representative.
If you want the people that follow me, you call me directly like a fucking man.
Let me come and see you.
And if I come and see you, I want you to tell me exactly what the fuck you're doing for black people.
So all these motherfuckers who asked me
why I wasn't involved in politics this year,
it's because the motherfuckers would not call me directly.
And if I'm not important enough for you to call me directly,
because you know I'm going to check your ass,
and you know if you tell me something...
Steve, who used to be the head of Motown at Universal?
Kadar. Okay, Kadar. Kadar lives out here. Kadar said something. So yeah, I saw him in a Soho house. Who used to be the head of Motown at Universal?
Kadar.
Okay, Kadar.
Kadar lives out here.
Kadar said something.
See, yeah, I saw him in the Soho house.
Yeah, Soho house.
Kadar Entertainment.
Let's make some noise for Dave Van Floss.
He got there.
That's my favorite place.
I got a little more to do, dog.
You know what I'm saying?
Actually, I got a lot.
But I don't want to talk about it too much.
But the thing that Kadar, when I first came to Universal,
Kadar told all the white people something.
I had this big meeting with all the white executives at Universal.
And people don't know, me and my ex-girlfriend wrote,
I produced, and even though they had A&Rs on,
I produced an A&R 90% of all my projects.
Most of them I paid for
The records
Because I didn't want
Nobody stealing my money
I knew
That the only money
That we really could get
Was that budget money
They was eating our radio money up
And all that bullshit
We knew that shit
You knew it didn't you
All we had was that budget
So Pimp C taught me
You if you can afford it
You record your
album yourself and then make them cut the whole shit to you and I would do
this debt shit bitch not before and what Kadar said when we had the meetings I
was telling them they was giving you know how they blow shit up I asked I was
writing down everything they said Kadar told me after the meeting said you know
what I told him got it'all done fucked up.
Y'all done told that little country motherfucking
militant
ass motherfucker. Y'all made him
promises and he was sitting there writing it down and y'all
never noticed it. So you gonna have to do
it for him. It's the same thing with these
politicians. If you want
black voters, tell us what you
gonna do for us. They tell what they gonna do for every
other community.
If you ask the average Mexican in L.A. what's their political platform about, it's usually about immigration.
You ask anybody when it comes to gender equality, they're going to tell you it's about marriage rights.
It's about this.
It's about that.
You ask 15 black people what they want you're gonna get 15
different answers so me when it comes to these politicians i don't play with my fans motherfuckers
try to pay me because i have a high efficiency rate on all my social media accounts so people
try to pay me a lot of money i'm not i'moring my fans out. If I tell my fans I support somebody,
even if it's somebody I'm really close to,
because Angela Rye was the reason why I supported Gillian.
He didn't call me personally, but Angela said the dude is the real deal.
I fuck with him.
I said, Angela, is that on you?
She said, you're damn right it's on you.
Just like if you call me something's happening in Miami
You like my because you know if they fuck up who I'm coming to come to you
My love everybody love the mob so much, but they don't they don't do they don't sit down like gentlemen
They don't use the laws if if you vouch for somebody then it's on you
I'm not fucking playing with these politicians.
Because tell me this.
Be real.
And I know the statistics.
As much as motherfuckers love Obama, shit got worse in the hood.
But we got so duped by a black man being in office in suits and ties.
And I had one woman say, he shows my son how to be a man.
I'm like, that's bullshit.
I'd rather my son be like Pop, spitting motherfuckers,
than a motherfucker who won't stand up for his own fucking people.
And the reason why I know it was some bullshit,
because everybody said, you know, he's the president.
You know, he has some constraints.
Trump got in that bitch, and then he was like, fuck, he's right, dude.
But you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're 100% right. But if it wasn't for Obama, Trump wouldn't's right, too. But you're right. You're right. You're right. You're 100% right.
But if it wasn't for Obama, Trump wouldn't have been able to.
That was our point.
Bush, and I didn't calculate this.
And I usually calculate the whole movie.
I didn't calculate this.
Bush birthed Obama.
But I didn't think that Obama would birth
Trump. Wait, wait. And he did.
But Clinton has, because Clinton's not in there at all?
What you mean? Yeah, no, I think Clinton started the whole
movement. It's a domino effect from the
Clinton era. Because of getting ahead and he's
still being in office and staying in office.
Clinton got something to do with this as well.
I don't think so because Clinton
played the saxophone.
Clinton the closest dude. Clinton made everybody.
Clinton made it.
Don't say that.
Don't say that.
Because that may be the worst mistake you make.
Let me tell you why.
The Clinton family was the ones that signed the law that put over 600,000 black people in jail.
So as far as I'm concerned, and I know maybe I shouldn't say that, I have a bigger problem with the Clinton family than I do with Trump.
That's why I think it was a tough decision
between Hillary and Trump.
It wasn't hard for me.
It was not hard for me. So who'd you vote for?
I ain't telling you who I voted for.
But I'm going to tell you why it wasn't hard for me.
Because Trump, still
to this day, is a theory.
He ain't really done
shit with talk.
That's it. But
the Clinton family passed
laws.
That affected motherfuckers.
There's 600. Listen to me.
600,000.
We're not even talking about Latino males.
We're just talking about black males.
600,000.
Man, fuck that shit.
And people think it was Reagan.
People think it was the Bush family.
Clinton was the motherfucker
that signed those bills.
And then a motherfucker
had the audacity to come back
and just apologize?
My dad said something
that I will live by
to the day that I die.
My dad had a rule
that's called
wreck a Benz, buy a Benz.
Don't tell me you sorry. If you wreck my Benz, buy a Benz Don't tell me you sorry
If you wreck my Benz, buy me a Benz
If you kill me, if you kill my child
Give me yours
That's when you sorry
So if you sorry, free 600,000 black men
Because if
600,000 black men are incarcerated
Imagine how many black babies we didn't have
And isn't that the goal
To all this shit
I'm gonna tell you straight up I got no problem saying that I voted for Hillary
in the election but I had a hard time with it because I did do a film in Haiti
and saw what the Clinton Foundation didn't do in Haiti. And I felt that they fucked that whole
shit up. But I was so afraid
of a Trump
that I did vote for her, but it was such a
fucked up decision.
Trump is one of the most...
And I cannot stand Trump.
But Trump is one of the reasons why people
don't think I'm crazy.
Remember before Trump, motherfuckers thought I was crazy?
I didn't think you was crazy. But I Trump motherfuckers thought I was crazy? I didn't think you was crazy.
But I know what
motherfuckers said about me.
Me and my mother
got into the worst argument ever
over Obama.
Because I said,
and I don't know if y'all remember this, I said on BET,
I actually wrote an agenda
for black people. It took me
almost a fucking month to write
an agenda. And then BET didn't
even read the motherfuckers. Because I
got on BET and said, if we
don't make Obama
agree to a black agenda,
he's not going to do shit for black folks.
And my mama got on my
ass, but the thing was, she came back
four years later and said, Billy, you
right. Though none of y'all motherfuckers called me Billy that's what my mama called me
my mom said she wanted to name me Billy
but it was too white so she named me William
and then I'll tell you something I never told nobody my mom was infatuated with Billy D. Williams
so I think that was the fucking reason
you know what I thought about? Sorry to jump to the subject
but you brought me there. I think Nas
is our version of Billy Dee Williams.
I think he is.
That came from
that came from
that came from left rack.
I was going to say left rack.
I was going to hit Nas
the other day and say I think you are our version
of Billy Dee. I'm sorry.
Well you know where his father's from? Mississippi. I just want to hit Nas the other day and say, I think you are a version of Billy Dee. But I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Well, you know where his father's from?
Mississippi.
I just want to make sure.
Ray Sherman is from Mississippi as well. Yeah, I can hear you.
Big K.R.I.T.
Yeah.
Oprah Winfrey.
Oprah Winfrey.
She don't claim y'all at all.
Yeah.
She don't?
She don't be claiming y'all at all.
But the thing is.
Ray Sherman, they act like they from Atlanta too.
No, they act like they from Atlanta.
They are just some talented kids.
And people want them to see...
Because...
Let me tell you something that Mississippi did
that fucked up the whole world.
As much as people try to stereotype Mississippi,
some of the smartest rappers on this planet
came from Mississippi.
Tito Lopez, who Dr. Dre signed,
who was on the level of Nas,
Big Krip, David Banner, Ray Schumer.
Like, people was looking for this super nigga to come out of Mississippi.
But some of the most intelligent, most articulate, Big K.R.I.T. left Def Jam and made more money than Def Jam made off of him when he was signed to.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm going to be honest with you When you speak of Big Crit
And you could ask him
One day
I'm on my independent thing
On my independent grind
I'm at MTV
Big Crit walked in
With a whole bunch of staff
Right
This is brand new
Artist mode
And I looked
And I said
Yo he's gonna be so happy
In two years
When he can walk
In the same building without none of them.
Do you know that Big Krik recorded some of his earlier albums in the closet at Def Jam?
He set up a studio in Def Jam in the closet.
Yeah, I know that studio.
I know that little studio.
No, no, no.
He set up his own.
His own.
In a real closet.
I ain't talking about that.
We had one up there.
But I'll tell you this, man.
I want to say a couple things, man.
I want to tell y'all how much I appreciate y'all giving me this opportunity because we take for granted, man.
I made a conscious choice that they could have all this shit before I give my people away.
People keep saying that this is a fucking black renaissance.
That's a fucking lie.
This is one of the worst times in history for black people.
And I always tell people,
I would rather be in chains
than to be free and not know that I'm at war.
All people of culture
Are at war right now
One of my friends showed me some statistics
Did y'all see
What Putin said
Oh shit I gotta show you
I gotta read this to you
This is on Instagram
Putin on Instagram
The Russian nigga
The president of Russia He said it in a speech. The Russian nigga, Pooing the Russian nigga. Yeah, the president of Russia.
He said it,
but bro,
this was one of the,
brother shit,
bro,
hold on,
come on.
Pooing out here on horses and shit.
Man,
let me,
listen to this shit now,
bro.
Chest necking on horses.
Bro,
listen to this shit.
Nigga out here with Q-tips
picking his nose and shit.
That's hilarious.
This motherfucker said,
oh my gosh,
bro.
Nuriuri say something
Until I find this shit dog
Just talk some shit
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Look, that's the brand new Blackberry.
This is brand new.
Look at that.
Look at that, man.
God damn it.
Anything else, Mr. Lee?
Come on, give me the box, man.
I will say about Blackberry.
Give me the box.
Blackberry was the greatest business phone I've ever had in my life.
It was.
Most of the shit I do on my iPhone, I'm playing.
Even right now, iPhone, iPhone, when you get an email, it doesn't alert you when you get an email.
You got to go to your email.
So, Nori, watch this shit.
Listen.
Pull it.
Vladimir Putin says, Africa is a cemetery for Africans.
Oh. says. Africa is a cemetery for Africans. Oh, y'all, listen to this shit.
When an African
becomes rich, his bank
accounts are in Switzerland.
He travels to France for medical
treatment. He invests in
Germany. He buys from Dubai.
He consumes Chinese.
He prays in Rome or
Mecca. His children study
in Europe. He travels to Canada, USA, and Europe for tourism.
If he dies, he will be buried in his native country.
Africa is just a cemetery for Africans.
How could a cemetery be developed?
But that applies to all of us.
That's the same thing I'm saying.
You can't pay for a David Banner shoe,
but you will go and give the most oppressive crackers on this planet.
Think about it.
As soon as we get money, even me and you, and we conscious,
I want to get a Bentley.
Bentley hate our motherfucking ass, dog.
We go to Christian Louboutin.
Yeah, they do.
Damn, I didn't know that.
Christian Louboutin.
My homeboys that work in the Louboutin show in New York said that they don't want us. I heard you say Christian Louboutin. Yeah, they do. Damn, I didn't know that. Christian Louboutin. My homeboys that work in the Louboutin show in New York said that they don't want us.
This is the second time I heard you say Christian Louboutin.
They don't like us, bro.
I didn't know that.
Bro, my mom and I.
Are they the Cristal shoes?
Are they the Cristal shoes?
Let me tell you.
Mr. Lee, you got to stop.
Let me tell you, bro.
Motherfuckers want to know who in their shoes.
They don't want the average black person in their shoes.
And I can't hate on them.
Because it's about their culture.
And they don't want any motherfucker just bringing down their culture.
It's just like, as much as I love, and I go to the strip club, and I love the strip club.
I don't want to see nobody in the strip club with a God box t-shirt on
because it stands for something and I told one of my hustler homeboys I said
when you out there selling dope bro do your thing but when you put on this
black fist emblem that means something you got to hold yourself to a certain
standard but is there album that you got a drop with those brothers can rock
those t-shirts no no they can just go buy something else.
No, because I'm not, see, that's the thing.
Okay.
It's not about just the bag to me anymore.
I said, since I said it on somebody else's show, I can say it on y'all's show.
I had an opportunity about six, seven months ago to do a very big TV show.
No, I was a little bit, no, no, because it's just coming out.
It was about a year and a half ago, right when,
two years ago,
right when the God Box dropped.
They wanted me to do
this big TV show
and they wanted me
to be this,
just wow ass motherfucker.
And they was paying
so much money
and not only did they say that,
they said,
listen David Banner,
this is a major TV show
but we'll shoot the TV show
around your schedule
because we want somebody that has lived this lifestyle.
But what this young Asian kid from Buffalo, New York told me is that they use your six foot two non comedic black frame to perpetuate black fear.
So they pay me all of this money. Notice there's only a certain type of black person that they let get
certain type of roles. I'm a semester
in the thesis away from a master's degree, dog.
I got a 3.998 from
one of the top universities in this world
and an accelerated master's program. What the
fuck? I can't play a doctor.
I just lost 30 fucking
pounds. I put my motherfucking shirt off
in this bitch and your
female constituency will go up by 30%. I pull my motherfucking shirt off in this bitch and your female
But the thing is is bro man is like well, we don't want to see a six-pack
I told them no I
Said because I got the guy box out.
And for one of the first times in history, bro, these kids are listening to me.
It's actually scary, bro.
And it was funny.
To be truthful with you, a guy came and told me when I was on another show.
He said, the reason why these kids listen to you the way that they do, because a lot of them don't have fathers.
So since the Internet is now their home, they comb through the Internet to look at a person that's like a father.
So to some of these people, we're their fathers, dude.
So I was like, bro, while I got the God box out, I'm not doing that shit.
And I turned it down.
And I ended up seeing the start of that show at LAX, bro.
And he said the producer told him about it.
And he said, David Banner, he basically told me, like, bro, I didn't think black folks was really about honor, bro.
Like, bro, to know that somebody turned down that kind of money.
And I needed it, bro.
Because I spent so much money on the God box.
That you can get at DavidBanner.com.
As a matter of fact, I didn't spend enough time selling my products.
That's right.
All these jackets, all this shit you see, you can go to DavidBanner.com and get it.
I got mine.
Shout out to Sally.
You know what I'm saying?
Regina, that's up in the office making this shit happen.
DavidBanner.com.
But Nori, it's just to the point, man, where we got to hold ourselves a certain way.
I remember, bro, when you told me Nori came up with the idea of having like a hip-hop health care plan.
You remember when you called me and told me about that, bro?
Well, I want a union as well.
Yeah, a union, right.
I want a union because the thing about it, well, I mean, health care, of course, as well.
He actually said a union, but I'm a little, yeah, I'm a little hammered.
No, because you know why?
The thing about it is, it's like I always reference this when I think about that.
It's like your brother Kamikaze, right?
Kamikaze was a part of Crooked Letters, right?
Yeah, I got to know your brothers very early on in life, right?
Penalty Records.
Penalty Records, big up to Neil Levine as well.
Now, in my opinion, just like me and Capone,
just because I'm the blessed one,
just because I'm the one who might have reached a bigger success
doesn't mean I don't feel like Capone's health is more important than mine.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So I feel like the fact that me and Capone
came in together to this life,
and I suppose I'm making all this money in the world,
and Capone gets sick,
I don't feel that anybody,
I feel like he's putting the same amount of work,
and there's people getting richer
off of everything that we're doing,
richer than us.
I feel like this should be money put to the side.
And no disrespect, but Neil Levine made a hell of a lot of money
because of Capone, too.
Of course.
So we can talk about all of these different things,
but he made a lot of money.
That's what I'm trying to start with, though.
What I'm trying to start with, Banner, is letanner is let's suppose we sit there and now, now we know, right? So now, so, so, so one thing is we have to have equity, right? We have to have liquid. We have to have finances, right? Because none of these young niggas, that's the point I was trying to bring up earlier was when a drug dealer told me to go upstairs, I went upstairs. Mr. Lee, let's do a shot. We can either do the coconut or tiger.
But so what I'm trying to say is if we get together and we say.
Let's actually do two shots because I don't think they were drinking like I was.
No, no, no.
I just wanted to be on point with you.
And we were pre-partying.
We were pre-partying too.
But what I'm trying to say is there should be something.
Like I don't feel like, okay, Scott LaRock, right?
I wasn't around, I was born in 1977, wasn't around when Scott LaRock happened.
But Scott LaRock, me looking at this, me knowing that BDP might not, I might not be around if it wasn't for BDP.
And I'm from Queens, and they diss Queens.
But Karis Ron influenced me so much that I look at it that Scott LaRock should have the illest tombstone in the world or
hip-hop it was funny I was just listening to OC yesterday
so so but this was saying my bad for cutting you off because I'm so like
really really like adamant
and so like emotional.
I know.
We talked on the motherfucking phone
for two hours.
Yeah, yeah.
Emotional about this.
Let me tell people.
I was at the post office
and I was,
I was,
this is when I first,
this is when I first
opened up davidbanner.com
and I was literally
taking the stuff
to the post office.
He was actually trying
to count me out.
He's like,
I'm not sure, Nori.
He was like,
he was like,
he was like, I want to talk to you
For a minute brother
I don't know why Nori forget how long
He always got to say brother with me
You know you ain't got to
You mind a few people that can actually say my nigga
You're like Nori was like brother brother I want to talk to you
So I wanted to hear his whole conversation
And bro he started
And that was the reason why I'm saying I'm so proud about you
Did you notice how he was talking At first and it was super hood when he started talking about?
Yeah, you know people getting health care shit. He was actually said if you look at the statistics
Like my mom's my mom's she worked for 20 years
She was a social worker. My mother don't have nothing to worry about.
Like, you know, my father passed away.
Like, they stepped up.
Like, what the...
And my mother did not make, for her corporations...
This is the up cigar.
And my mother did not make, for her corporations,
not near as much as I have contributed to three or four different...
So what I'm trying to say is I know right now
that if someone in my family gets sick,
that's purely on me.
Now, I can accept that.
But now,
if someone gets sick in my family
who's gave their life to hip-hop,
if motherfucking Rapper Noid
from Mobb Deep gets sick,
I feel like Rapper Noid
shouldn't have to worry
about a $20,000 bill.
I feel like it's... I don't feel like it should be one of us. I feel like itapper Nori shouldn't have to worry about a $20,000 bill. I don't feel like it should be one of us.
I feel like it should be a monthly.
It should be like SAG.
It should be like SAG.
Let me tell you something that I think, though.
I think, similar to what we were talking about white supremacy earlier,
we can't expect the same people that oppress us to do that.
It's going to take black men and women who have done well.
And I'm not saying that
I came up with this idea, nor he actually
said this. Let me be clear. We're
going to have to be the ones that pay
into this
process. But the thing is, it shouldn't
just be us. That's the same
thing that I'm saying about black folks, man. It hurts
me. I do very well on
davidbanner.com, but bro,
I don't really, where I
get my real freedom, and I probably
just may go on, like, bro, I
score movies and video games.
I did the music for Mercedes Benz.
Like, I don't talk about where I get my money from,
but bro. But I'll tell you, those will be
the first people to donate for us. I'm going to be honest
with you. Sorry to cut you off, but it'll be
Mercedes Benz. It'll be a Neil Levine. It'll be
a Steve Rifkin. It'd be these people that
I'm just telling you.
They can afford it and they can write it off.
But I get what you're saying.
Hold the shot.
I can go first.
Both of y'all can go pissed, but not together.
I don't have any of this shit.
Let me tell y'all something.
But listen, what I'm trying to say is
that's all we need because
what I notice is our people, when I say our people what I'm trying to say is that's all we need because what I notice is
our people, when I say our people, I'm talking about hip-hop.
I'm talking about color, race, creed.
Our people will follow the next
best thing, right?
So right now, if you get on the motherfucking joint
and you say,
you know what?
This is what we're doing. This is what we're rocking.
Maybe you have 800,000 followers.
And maybe out of them 800,000 followers, 80% or maybe 20% will follow what you're doing.
That's enough.
Imagine we all get together.
But this is the same.
Hold on.
I want to say this because it's important.
Yes.
Yeah, people will come together when we tell them to go buy some white
folk shit. But when it's really
time for us to do some shit that really
matter, that's when
we can tell if Drake Chaps really
has power or David Banner really has
power. I got a million followers
just on Facebook. If 20%
of my followers
would have bought the God Box,
I'd never have to rap again in my whole entire fucking life
And everybody say how I influenced them
How I influenced them
Or how man I was going to commit suicide
And you saved my life
And I'd be like yo bro did you go get the God Box
So my thing is
Can we get our people
To direct that same power
To give it to our people
Just like you said. To support our
people. That's all I want. That is the trick.
I'm going to be honest
with you.
You always honest with me bro.
I buy everybody's shit. I buy
people's shit that I don't know them.
I buy people's shit that I might not necessarily
like because you know what it is?
I know how it felt to be in that
position and to need that help. So I and if you can't invest in the thing that saved
your life you are not worthy to live but I don't have no stream you know that I
don't have no string I don't have no streaming account all my friends say I'm
crazy I buy I steal buy CDs let me oh no can i say what can i
ship one time this is so important listen to me all of you new rappers let me tell you something
and i mean this with all my heart everything else i say if you're artists fuck that shit listen to
this people laugh at me because i still print up cds and vinyl. Tupac taught me something.
You remember how Tupac used to always talk about being immortal?
Do you remember when iTunes or Apple, excuse me, Apple had the Snow Leopard
update where everybody had to do the Snow Leopard update or you couldn't listen to iTunes.
You couldn't play any music. You remember that? That showed
me that if
we come up with a record
that changes the whole fucking
planet, they're saying Virginia now,
they don't let the prisoners, I don't know
if this is true, and I usually don't say shit
that I don't research, but this shit hit me
so hard, that they don't let the prisoners
read anything from
Malcolm, Martin, or Marcus Garvey
or Farrakhan like you can't even read that if you're in prison but my point is
is that if we are in a position and we put all our stuff on the internet if they don't like you, they can push one button and you don't exist no more.
I still have CD and vinyl because what Tupac said,
that makes you immortal.
Things that you hold in your physical hand,
a motherfucker got to come in your house with an army
to take that shit.
Album hard copies will always be for your hardcore fans.
It will always be for memorabilia. It will always be for memorabilia.
Right.
It will always,
that's for our era
and there's going to be
this new generation
who's going to,
who's going to,
who's going to gravitate
towards that.
I hope they do.
No, it makes a comeback.
It makes a comeback.
So much better.
Because this whole thing,
like we looked at,
what we did was
we put it on the studio,
big up to Roland Loud,
by the way.
We have Roland Loud we looked up
all your stuff
and what happened was
they put in
all your related videos
so it's like
you just like
you know
related to
fucking everybody
you know what I want you to watch
I don't think that you got a chance
to see I know you saw it
I want you to go see
the Black Fist video
the Black Fist video
that was the most
revolutionary video man no if you go see that black fist video the black video is the most revolutionary video
I know if you go see that video right now you might not come back I got a serious question for you.
So being I'm the Cuban guy here on the table and we're talking all this stuff.
And you're one of my closest friends.
And Latinos are multiracial.
In all this conversation that you're having, where do you figure Latinos?
Can I be very honest with you?
Yeah, no, no.
Might as well.
There's no sense of being not honest.
Bro, there's so much stuff
happening with black folks.
Because I've seen you
reference Mexicans,
but we got to remember
there's so many different
variations of Latinos.
The reason why I reference
Mexicans so much
is because I lived
a long time in L.A.
And I
love the way that they were about
La Raza. They were about culture.
This is what I tell you, bro.
We try to act like
we're all of these different things,
but when a cop pull us over,
to most
cops, we niggas.
All of us.
So for me, the struggle goes in tears.
If you think about the break dancing, if you think about half of him, Have for him. In New York especially,
motherfuckers grew up together in the same motherfucking hoods.
To me, oh man, I'm so glad you asked that question.
That was one of the questions I wrote down.
I left my questions because I said
I didn't want to make it dark.
One of the things that I said,
I don't understand why
people of Latin descent,
Native Americans, you've heard
me say this before people all over the world have been oppressed by the same
person yep and for the most part we don't really really fuck with each other
I don't know why Native Americans and black folks don't fuck with each other I
don't understand for the most part.
Like, we are cordial to each other.
But these same motherfuckers have fucked up our...
The smartest motherfuckers were the Asians.
They built the fucking wall.
That's the reason why their culture is still intact.
My dude, for me, pain is the common denominator for all of us, bro.
I lived in Harlem for six years, homie
And they got quotas in New York
And a lot of the black cops
Say, dude, I gotta fuck with black folks
Because ain't nobody gonna come and help
Black folks
And for the most part, young folks
And if we don't find a way to say, bro
You know something about white folks A dude had a joke one time folks. And if we don't find a way to say, bro, notice something
about white folks.
A dude had a joke one time that I didn't
find funny. I think I choked this motherfucker.
But the joke was
real. He said, you know
one thing that two
warring white people can come together
on? Keeping a black
man down.
Black folks, other race of people,
we can't even come together on our common denominator.
And what's funny, I see all these people
in all these different movements, bro,
they're quick to talk about males
from all of these different races,
but most of the motherfuckers are scared
to talk about the biggest oppressor in this world
as a black man.
One thing that you know know if you put your hand
on a white man what's gonna happen i wish i had an effect you're going to jail forever ever ever
you know as long as it's not a political season you shoot a black man maybe three four five years
maybe so for me bro like no wait wait i do want to of, I think I have an answer for why you're saying why the different, whether Native Americans, Latinos, blacks, don't see eye to eye to a degree.
To answer your question, though, directly.
Can we do a shot first?
Wait, wait, come on, guy.
Let's do a shot.
Let's wait, let's wait.
Come on, man.
This may not be the thing to take a shot to.
Let me answer real quick. A person, one of the Moorish brothers asked me today, what do I think about the word black?
And I was like, bro, we have bigger problems.
I don't really, when I think about that, if you really want the real answer to that question, I don't think about it because I have a clear and present enemy that's killing my people right now.
So if you are an ally, you are an ally. because I have a clear and present enemy that's killing my people right now.
So if you are an ally, you are an ally.
I'll get to that later.
But shit, I can't even get together with my own people yet.
Before I can even get, I don't even really,
to be honest with you, I don't even think about that, homie.
Only because... About what? About what exactly?
What are you saying?
About relations with other groups of people
outside of black and white folks.
Although Latinos are multiracial and are your folks as well.
Right, right.
But they're only my people if they accept it.
Because a lot of people.
Which is a reverberation of colonialism.
Exactly.
Which we're all suffering from.
Exactly.
And the fact that it's really what a boat dropped off in.
Because at one time in history, people was fucking all over,
bro, dude, I said that, dude.
Motherfuckers be talking about this and that, bro.
Like, at the end of the day, bro,
I'll be real with you.
At the end of the day, bro,
it's crazy that a white woman said it.
Bro, everybody is a descendant of a black woman.
I'm going to fuck who you are.
It may hurt your motherfucking feelings.
Fuck it.
Now, the further you went away from the equator to fuck who you are. It may hurt your motherfucking feelings. Fuck it. Now, the further
you went away from the equator,
the lighter you got.
But let's just be real.
That's the reason why black people get the
most oppression. Let's take a shot on that.
Everybody come from a black woman, god damn it.
We got to light it up,
god damn it.
You know what?
And I don't usually do this kind of shit because I'm on drink chumps. This is the kind of home
Big up to Hakeem green leading the legend legend I'm totally my problem to what you do with the kids though. I got a homegrown and kill Washington
Um, I do a lot of work in Harlem with Eagle Academy
With the males at Eagle Academy, bro
People could talk that shit about what rappers do what politicians do bro
Y'all with them kids every fucking day, bro
And they pay out'all the least,
and our kids are the ones who are leading us
into the future, bro.
So the shit, the fact that you were man enough, bro,
to say, bro, I'm going to where it counts.
You could have been an A&R, bro.
You could have did what anybody else did, bro.
You went back to our children and I.
And he also leads a Dump Trump campaign, too.
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So let me describe you a world that I may be,
for lack of a better word, naive.
I may be sensitive.
I may be, for lack of a better word, gullible.
But this is how I picture it.
T.I., the mayor of Atlanta.
You can clap your hands.
Killer Mike, the governor of Georgia.
Killer.
You can clap your hands.
If you say my name, you got to say president.
Talib Kweli.
Thank you, sir.
As mayor of E at least Brooklyn.
God damn.
I don't think you can be mayor of Brooklyn.
Can you even? This is a county council.
I don't think you have to be mayor of the whole city.
You'll get the key to Brooklyn.
You don't got to get the key to New York City.
Do you remember?
Hold on.
I want to describe this perfect world that I on. Let me just describe this perfect world
that I'm visualizing.
Hakeem Green
and them
running New Jersey.
I'm going to throw
this out there.
It's going to sound
fucked up.
But we want
our mayor
to be the real mayor
of Miami.
Who?
Trick Daddy.
We want Trick Daddy.
Either Booty Gang.
Or Pitbull.
Either Booty Gang.
No, Pitbull's the governor.
You got to relax.
You already put him in the governor's?
No.
Let's make sure that we say something, though.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let me finish my point, man.
Let me tell you what I'm trying to say.
Go ahead.
As much as we have done hip-hop,
right now Jay-Z can tell you
don't wear button-ups
and niggas won't wear button-ups.
Jay-Z can tell you
Ace of Spades is a piece of shit.
Start drinking...
I mean, excuse me.
Chris Tau is a piece of shit.
Start drinking Ace of Spades.
If we really got together, right,
and said, yo, fuck it,
we're going to fuck with politics and take over this shit
because we can do it.
And this isn't something we all made.
We all made it to a certain extent.
Hold on, this is my perfect world.
This is my perfect world now.
And behind the scenes, we got,
what's the nigga from X-Men?
Dr. Xavier?
It's Dr. Xavier Farrakhan He's constructing it
All behind the scenes
But now you got
Hov
And Will Smith
And constituency
People in the White House
With David Banner
And
I think we can do this
You don't remember
Hip hop
You don't remember bro Like You don't remember, bro?
You don't remember that conversation?
The same day that you had that conversation,
I told you quietly
that we should do that.
Because if they know that we coming,
I was like, if we all ran
since you said it,
I said if we all quietly
ran at the same time,
because I was saying we go to the bank in 840.
840?
That's what I'm talking about.
You know what I'm saying?
You're killing it.
We get snooze.
Too short?
Right.
Too short?
We make an American holiday, bitch.
But my, no, but we can't do that.
No, we can't do that.
No, but go to California easy.
That was the thing I was going to say.
That was the thing that we were going to say.
The thing that I will say.
I went too far.
I went too far.
Yeah, you did.
I wasn't going to say that on your own show, dog.
He always goes too far.
It's okay.
It's okay.
The people that I picked were only people who were already political.
See, the thing is, is we can't do the same thing that we did to hip hop to a certain degree.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you why.
My experience, if I didn't hear David Bannon on Crooked Letters, I would never, ever want to even step a foot in Mississippi.
But your experience, your stories, your tales, you guys, it made me say, okay.
But the thing is, Nora, you have to have people who want to do that.
That's what I'm saying.
Because what I'm saying is, one of the reasons why I'm great at politics,
and it was funny,
every time I usually come,
I bring a book,
but I was running late.
No problem.
I'm reading Marcus Garvey now.
And Marcus Garvey said,
you have to study every,
you have to master history.
You have to have people that say,
if I ran for political office,
We need you to do that.
I'm not doing rap
no more until I'm done. I'm not doing no movies that I'm not doing rap no more until I'm done
I'm not doing no movies
I'm not doing anything
But why can't we go back to T.I.T.
I said he could be all five days
But no, but the thing is
You can be all five in your personal life
But hold on, wait, let me tell you
But here's the part you're missing
Trump did not think how you think
But Trump ain't doing shit
Trump's a disaster
Trump said I'm a New York nigga and I'm going to be New York.
Listen, listen.
But what is he doing?
I'm not playing about my people, you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's true.
Hold on, let me give you the point.
If I'm going to do this, I'm going to change the fucking world.
I'm going to be not the best musical Governor or president
Because I don't do that little shit
If I'm doing it, I'm doing it all the way
I'm going to really do something for real
But everybody know you can't change the world
Unless you change your own house first
So can we
Because you can't say you'll clean up your house
If your house is dirty
So can we make a Mississippi like a Miami
We can
We can We can. We can.
And go to Wet Willies.
Yeah, absolutely.
We can.
We can, but the thing is
we don't
research. We need a Maynard Jackson.
He is the reason
why Atlanta is what he is today.
People don't know this. He went and got
Babyface and L.A. Reid,
which would spawn
outcast usher and tlc who don't get enough credit for the atlanta move atlanta is a
a three two to three billion dollar business just with music we're not even talking about
the fact that atlanta now is the number one place that they shoot movies in the world. Not LA. Tyler Perry goes in family too. So what I'm saying.
Tyler Perry got his own factory.
What I'm saying is this.
Is if we are going to get people to do this.
They either got to be one of two things.
They have to be an avid studier of politics.
And the way to get shit really done.
Or they're going to have to be an extreme puppet.
Like the Bush son was.
His daddy was running that shit. We all knew that.
So we can get something
done. That's all I'm saying.
Let me ask you something.
Let me say something that's been a history on
Drink Champs. What I
feel, the only positive thing
that President Trump
has brung to the whole
administration is he turned politics into a smack DVD. that President Trump has brung to the whole administration.
Positive?
Yes.
As he turned politics into a smack DVD.
Now, fuck that, man.
This shit is a smack DVD out here, my nigga.
We didn't ask him what he said, you idiot.
No, no, no, it's true.
That's the only positive thing he did. Real quick, I'm going to tell you right now.
He, you know he's a part, he went to WWE.
He's a part of Smack?
No, WWE. Oh, WWE. Oh wwe he oh whatever whatever the wrestling shit
is he went there and he was a part of it right and i feel that he saw that and he said this is
how i'm gonna win the presidency he's a reality tv show yeah and what he does well i know he knows
this but like i have a lot of international friends.
America's a fucking joke right now. A joke.
We are a joke.
It's true.
We are a joke.
It's not a lie.
We are a joke.
We're a fucking joke.
And that's the thing that I'm saying, Nori.
Seriously, you just gave the ultimate plan.
But if motherfuckers is going to do this, and you're not about building a true political structure
for your black people,
then it's no different than Obama.
It's just hope.
We got to go in with a plan
and say this is what we're all going to do politically,
and this is what we're going to accomplish.
But the one thing I went deeper,
the reason why I went deeper
and I didn't use any black people,
I used hip-hop people,
because hip-hop, we live by a code. Not people. Because hip hop, we live by a code.
Not hip hop, the streets we live by a code.
I still say that but.
Hip hop used to live by a code.
We used to live by a code but now
this is the upper echelon of hip hop.
You notice I didn't say you little Uzi Virk
for Philadelphia, I'm gonna say Meek Mill
because that makes sense for,
we trying to be mature, we're not trying to go to,
we're not hiring 6ix9ine to be the Brooklyn Council. So what I'm trying to say is we're gonna to be mature We're not hiring 6ix9ine to be The Brooklyn Council
So what I'm trying to say is we're going to be that mature
Upper echelon
And I think
If we all come into unison
I just want you to remember this though
For the rest of your fucking life
Yes please
Before I talk about any of these kids
And let's be really honest
I remember how they used to talk about me
When Like A Pimp came out
They talked about me the same fucking way
They didn't stop talking about me that way
Until I started busting their ass
And I was going to talk to you about your album
I promised myself
After the hip hop cypher
I remember the conversations we had
After the hip hop cypher
I said every verse
I ever spit
from this day on
I'm smashing a bitch
and hip hop talk
all this shit
about how they want hip hop better
that's a fucking lie
cause when a southern motherfucker
spit that shit
like Andre 3000 does
a motherfucker don't never
put them in that top five
bitch I'm killing these motherfuckers
on these verses
and whether it's one
I just
bro I just spit on Eric Sherman's album, dog
Rock Waller called me and said
Bro, we thinking about changing the whole
Bro, I'm killing a bitch
I say, I'm in the back
I'm in the back of the graveyard grinning
You John Lennon
You bleeding out on Abbey Road
With holes in your white linen
I told the motherfucker
Uh, uh, uh, um.
Uh, um.
Spit it.
What's, what's, what's, what's, uh, uh, uh.
Pass me the hood if you're not using it.
Where's the fourth, what's, what's the fourth, uh, uh, fourth member of Tribe Car Quest?
Jerobo.
Yeah.
He's Kendall.
I said, I said, I'm in the kitchen cooking.
I said, I'm in the cooking, I'm in the kitchen cooking for my tribe like Jerobe.
You niggas act like you don't know me.
What the fuck is up?
I put four or five holes in your new Bentley truck.
Bitch, what?
Make some noise!
From the day that, from the hip-hop cypher to the day that I die,
a bitch better not put me on the album
I don't care whether you old or young
I'm coming
Cause what I realize
Is as smart as I am
And as much as I read
Take your time on your verses
I'm quick to tell a person
If I'm in the studio with them
I ain't ready
I go home
Ninth Wonderverse
I had to wait for a minute
Three, four days
But when I spit that bitch
I'm gonna motherfuckers ass bro, and that's how we got culture. Definitely. He just put out the jamala
To record okay. I need to ask you I need to act this is this is this is a personal question of mine. I
Know this might be fantasy, but just bear with me
One of my favorite movies I've seen this year is Black Panther.
Wakanda seems like a place I want to go.
Right.
How can we make, even though that's fantasy,
how can we make that in real life?
Because it has to be a possibility. Because if you can think it, you can achieve it.
If you build it, they're going to come.
So how can we make our own Wakanda?
I got your answer.
When I lecture, people always ask me why I don't go deeper.
They know that I'm smarter.
This is the biggest thing, and I'll say it again. I've said it. I said it once already. Most black people don't like being black.
So no matter how much information I give you, if you don't like living around another black person,
we can't build a black community. If you don't like shop, if you, when you look at a black person,
you see a nigga. I tell women all the time, if you told your children, they were gods,
maybe they would act like gods. And if they they acted like gods maybe someone would treat them like
gods everybody always talk about jesus all the time if you really think that jesus is your father
then your father is a god and if my father is a god what the fuck am i i realize with all my heart
don't think i'm a god i know i I'm a God, because I can think of something
and bring it into the present.
If I look at a woman and be like,
ooh, she fine as hell, I'm going to get her,
and not only am I going to get her,
I'm going to make another God.
And I'll make a child, and I thought about that child
when I saw her ass.
That's God.
No, that's real.
You look at her like. No, that's real. You were looking like... And not only...
But see, that's only part of it.
See, we want to say that we men,
but the man is not fucking and coming.
It's taking responsibility
and making sure that you create a culture
that makes a God.
So to answer your question, before we can make Wakanda, making sure that you create a culture that makes a God.
So to answer your question, before we can make Wakanda, we have to let people know that they're T'Challa.
And they don't think that they are.
Okay, what's T'Challa?
I forgot that part.
T'Challa was the main dude.
All right.
That was a black man.
Come on, man.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
But what I'm saying, bro, is that it's psychology.
Right.
Most black people don't like being black people.
They don't want to be around black folks.
Bro, listen.
Uh-huh.
I said this.
I told black folks.
I diss Nike, even though I wear Jordan.
I wear Jordan because that's a black man.
I did the same.
I diss Nike because some of them, I'm going to be real, some of my homies work for Nike.
Nike is one of the most fucking, they call
Brand Jordan the ghetto.
Inside of Nike culture.
And the motherfuckers that work for Nike, you know I'm telling
the truth so you can deny it, so fuck you,
because I know people that work there, bitch.
Listen to what happened.
Listen to what happened, and they would deny this shit,
but I know people that work for Nike, on and low.
This is what happened with the Kaepernick shit.
And show you how black folks got duped.
I was talking about Nike and black folks went crazy.
I even erased the shit that I said off of Instagram.
Because one thing that I'll talk about is religion, gender, or fucking Nikes.
Because we love our fucking Nikes because we love our fucking night what happened was this
is what people don't know is as a corporation although Nike distributes
Jordan Jordan is a separate company that was the reason why they took the Nike
logo off the Jordan they didn't believe in that's why Jordan made so much money
they made sure that they wouldn't give LeBron the same type of deal
because they didn't believe in Jordan.
And the same, which dude that made Star Wars?
George Lucas.
The same way they did George Lucas. They didn't believe in George
Lucas, so he had the rights to the
Star Wars figures. Same thing happened
with Jordan. They didn't believe Jordan was going to blow,
so they gave him all that power. So if you look
at the financial statements, when it comes to
white folks, I don't listen to nothing they say.
I look at financial statements.
White folks don't care about nothing but money and life.
That's it.
If you look at the financial statements, it was Nike, Jordan, then Adidas.
When Kanye left Nike and went to Adidas, he eipsed brand joy yeah see we don't get also
Corral came yeah it was Sean Vianna but for the most part it was Kanye but then when Kanye then Nike said oh black folks are important so what are we because we we don't even know we're at war. I told my homeboy today,
he said, man,
I wish our people would play chess.
I said, I would just be happy
if our people played checkers
because at least they would know
it's a game being played on them.
What happened was,
they said, okay,
damn, black people are important.
Kanye was important.
Okay.
Then when Kanye said the dumb shit about
slavery Nike said this is
an opportunity
so they went and
people also didn't know that Nike had just
re-upped their deal
with the NFL
they are the main shoe
supporter of the NFL
black folks wasn't fucking with the NFL for a minute
so what they did was they put out
a bogus ass commercial
with Kaepernick that said nothing
about why he kneeled.
See, if you don't put the reason
why, then you are
totally neglecting
the people who Kaepernick were talking about
that died. So they just put out
something about him, put a little bit
of culture in it. Black folks spent
$42 million in
two days, start watching
the NFL again, and Nike
made $42 million. I was one of them
niggas. I ain't gonna throw.
So peep game.
What they did was, is they
played us, dude.
Why couldn't we have given that $42
million to Kaepernick?
We could've gave it directly to him.
No, we gave it to some fuckin' elitist ass motherfuckers
who don't care about us in the first place,
and we started watching the NFL again.
They won two times.
Damn.
Hold on, wait, give me that.
No, no, no, don't damn,
because we said it on Dream Champs,
and that motherfucker's no better.
Yeah, I'ma tell you what's crazy about it, and I'm drinking it on drink, champs, and that motherfucker's no better. Yeah, I'ma tell you what's crazy about it,
and I'm attractive.
I just lost 30 motherfucking pounds.
I'ma lose this one.
All you motherfucking entertainers,
I've been giving you an opportunity.
I've been rocking the beards.
I've been looking like a fucking lumberjack.
I've been fat and sloppy.
I'm about to lose 20 pounds.
Have you ever watched Conan before? The Barbarian? The Barbarian? Yeah. That's how I'm about to lose 20 pounds. Have you ever watched Conan before?
The Barbarian?
The Barbarian.
That's how I'm about to start dressing.
I ain't wearing no shirts no more.
After I lose these next 20 pounds,
I'm just going to drape some fur around my motherfucking back.
If you love your fans and your women,
you better marry them now.
Because when I lose these 20 pounds,
you see my cheekbones right now?
I look, oh shit. So do we open up another bar? We should. Okay. Now cuz when I lose these 20 pounds you see my cheekbones right now
Do we open up another bottle we sure okay?
Let's take it to ride along okay, how did you get that? How did you get that roll right away? Okay? Okay?
44 right yeah
Make some noise for him god damn and I know I look let me tell you somebody what I think all right I don't people always say you should be humble I don't
believe we should be humble I believe I'm a god I believe I'm a son and if you a son and I know
who I am I want to see you shine if If you're another God, see, what happens is
when people are insecure in who they
are. I know who I am.
I'm a beautiful motherfucker. I know
I'm not the only one. See, that's what men
fuck up. It's men that think just because
they're God or they're a son or they look
awesome that they're the only motherfucker on this
world or in this world that can get away
with shit. I know I ain't the only one,
but I am one of them god damn it shit
boy I'm trying to stay away from you weed bro I want to see people help you
if you want to man no no no after we get so so what because I know we touched on it
earlier but I would like to um I would like to be a little bit more articulate
with the streaming services, right?
A lot of us,
especially the new generation,
they come out,
their thing is clicks, right?
When I look at my sons,
look at my daughter,
I look at,
they don't even fuck with the TV.
I don't know why I'm paying fucking cable bills
cause none of them
watch the fucking shit
only me
cause I like to watch
King of Queens
and shit like that
and like
Al Bundy
like I watch
I'm an old fart
right
but my kids
they on the fucking
screens all the time
and
how do we
how do we make
streaming work
for us
a person that's
independent let me tell you how smart Jay Z was okay Jay Z saw How do we make streaming work for us? A person that's independent.
Let me tell you how smart Jay-Z was.
Okay.
Jay-Z saw what the trend was going to be.
Created his own platform.
He created his own.
Tyler.
Yeah.
Created his own.
He's like, fuck that.
Bro, the answer to everything is you.
Every question that you can ask me is you.
You do it.
See, let me tell you something.
This is my personal opinion.
This is not to disrespect
anybody in this room
or anybody out there
in Drink Champ's world.
I think black people
have been duped
by the story of Jesus.
I think we look at
the story of Jesus
and we're waiting for Jesus
to come back.
But the story of Jesus is this.
The story of Jesus
was to show you that you could be God on earth too. See, people want Jesus to come back but the story of jesus is this the story of jesus was to show you that you could be god on
earth too see people want want jesus to come back because they don't want to bear their own cross
you don't want to be a man enough i just fasted for 30 days now i didn't do what jesus did i
hadn't made it to 40 days but i fasted for 30 days um juice and soup no solid and the soup that i cook i cook it for a day good enough um so that
it's just like water yeah um the one thing i have to say about my fast i drunk wine like a
motherfucker during your fast yeah i just don't want to i just don't want to have solids i just
don't want to eat food i don't give a fuck what it is and the reason why i didn't mind is i found
see we used to everything because we've oppressed, we want everything to be so fucking hard and mean.
I got to sacrifice for the world.
Fuck that.
Wait a minute.
You can fast for wine?
Let me tell you me.
Let me tell you me.
Yo, let's fast right now.
Watch this.
Watch this.
We're talking about calorie intake, right?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, if I want to look awesome, if I ain't eating no food, I can take that 70
calories from a glass of wine,
and I still look like, look at my cheekbones.
You ain't never seen my cheekbones. Matter of fact,
I ain't never seen yours. Congratulations,
motherfucker.
No, but I'm real. You put me on. Hold on.
You fucking me up. Hold on. Tell me.
Look at his cheekbones, goddamn it.
Don't look too long.
So you're telling me you can do a 30-day fast, and then within this 30-day fast, you could have a glass of wine?
I had a bottle of wine every day.
Let me tell you.
I don't know if I agree.
But you don't have to agree. You don't have to agree. Look at me.
I'm playing with you.
Look at me, though. I look awesome, don't I?
You don't want to admit it because we're masculine.
No, I like fast. I'm a faster as well. He's a faster
Yeah, look at me take a picture got damn it
No, you can't I'm I'm the god of my existence I
Make my parameters you feel what I'm saying?
And if I am man enough
Malcolm X said this the Muslims say this if you can control your appetite you can control the universe
They did not say the world. I'm not eating no food. I don't have a fucking bottle of wine
No first of all ain't no pork and I have to give it up To Sadat X
Derek X
At the time he was Derek X
He's the reason why
I don't eat pork to this day
No I have to specifically say
Yeah Brad Nubian
Yes
Me too
But I have to say
Sadat X
Particularly
He is the reason
Why I don't eat pork
I haven't ate pork
Since the 11th grade
In Mississippi
And the thing that a motherfucker
I lie about all y'all dusty motherfuckers
You act like pork is nasty
And it's nasty for you
But if I could I'd bathe in it
That shit tastes awesome
But see that's the kind of shit kids need to hear
Your crack is awesome too
I don't know
Her heroin is fantastic Hold on You say you don't know. I never had crack. Her heroin is fantastic.
Hold on.
Wait, but you said you don't eat it, but it's awesome.
It is.
No, I'm Cuban.
Pork is a part of our lifestyle, and I don't eat it.
Yeah, I don't eat it either.
No, but it's part of my lifestyle too.
Like, Ben Neal.
That's how we eat.
Every Christmas.
But, I mean, it is what it is, man.
No, we can't.
You have to retract that crack statement
No I'm just saying
They say crack is awesome too
Just cause Nori is my homie
Not he's saying
Yeah I don't smoke crack at all
I sold it to a friend of his
I sold it to a lot
You sold it to a friend of yours
You was about to say you sold it a little
That was a lot
He was like I sold it a lot I did mom. You was about to say you sold it a little. That was a lot. He was like, I sold it a lot.
I sold it a lot.
Yeah, I did.
I mean, I had no way out.
Hey, hold on.
Let me tell y'all a quick story.
Let me tell y'all a quick story about Nori.
No problem.
No problem.
I know I told this the last time, but this shit was so funny.
We were trying to shoot a video.
And I told y'all this the last time.
Nori was one of the first New York cats I ever saw that really liked Southern music.
It wasn't fake.
Thank you.
Like, he had heard about Master P from D.C.
way before Master P had blown.
And he was on the tables in New York.
Like, this Southern shit is crazy.
I can attest to that.
He loved this song that we had, Fire, Water.
He ended up getting on the record.
Nori told me,
you got to go in there and scare the white people.
He said,
you can throw something through the glass.
He said, you can turn
over their desk, just don't touch them, man.
Don't touch them.
And let me tell you something, man.
I don't know if I told y'all this last time.
I'll never forget this. Nori don't even remember this.
He'll say he do, but he don't.
Nori was shooting, what was the video when you was... It was there's nre yeah that was with the pyramids and the oh no that's
super thug no no no wait wait wait come on all right the pyramids is uh super thug yeah but the
cheetah running is oh no so no it was super thug super thug no no cheetahs in super thug
i think a cheetah was a Super Thug. No, no, no. I think in Super Thug. I don't think a cheetah was in Super Thug.
You may go and look at it.
No, it's not cheetahs in Super Thug.
But anyway, it was the pyramid.
I know that you was in the same.
At the time, you could.
That was a million dollar video.
Come on, dog.
No, Super Thug was $500,000.
No, what was the video that was a million dollars?
Oh, no.
Okay, what it was?
Oh, no.
So Noriega told Neil Levine That this fire water shit
Cause most motherfuckers don't want to take away
They shine
He was like bro this is actually the shit right here
He's like you're shooting a million dollar video
Give these boys $70,000
And let them shoot a video
Out of my budget
You won't be able to tell the difference
And Neil Levine still said no
And what's funny
This is something that i
i really i'm really it really surprises me and i know steve rifkin don't want to hear this but i
know he think this the truth neil levine and steve rifkin they think because i'm about black power
that i don't like them i saw steve rifkin one time i was running and running in Canyon. He saw me and he did this. Like, bro, you changed my life, homie.
Like, as business people, we had some difficulty.
But I don't think there's no other person that I could assign to besides Steve Rifkin that would have done what he did.
He let me do whatever the fuck I wanted to do.
Wasn't nobody else fucking with Crooked Letters.
Neil Levine believed in that shit.
You know, so for me, I'm not mad
At you, you know what I'm saying
I ain't got no problems with you
Black power don't mean I hate you
Unless you do some fucking white racist shit
I'm at your ass
You know, but like, man
We have to find a way to do business
Like, I'm not emotional
About business, I am emotional
About black people
But I'm not emotional about business. I am emotional about black people. I'm not emotional
about business. Business is about contracts.
See, that's the thing.
Motherfucker can't fuck me. I used to have a
problem. I used to think suing a motherfucker was the weakest
shit in the world. I'll sue your
ass. Jewish people in New York
will sue each other and go to each other's
bar mitzvah. It's fucking business. You fucked
over me in business. You fucked over
me in some street shit, I'm going to beat your ass. If you fucked over me in business You fucked over me in some street shit
I'm going to beat your ass
If you fuck over me in business
It's because I didn't have the knowledge
To put it in the contract
And that's my fault
Not your fault
Can't nobody fuck you
You can only allow yourself to be fucked
For a lack of knowledge
I tell people you are a slave
To whatever you don't know
You feel me?
I'll tell you a story
It was a guy named Michael Ovitz you heard of Michael
Ovitz you can google Michael Ovitz come on hazardous well Michael Ovitz had did
a deal with Chris lady I didn't know who fuck Michael Ovitz was so Chris lady I'm a cigar? Of course you can. You can give me one of them for later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. You can have one. No, no.
You can give me one of them for later.
Okay, I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
No problem.
We won't do it on camera.
We'll do it here.
I got you.
So what happened was Michael Ovis and Chris Lighty, huh?
He's a town major?
Yeah.
Well, Michael Ovis and Chris Lighty did a deal.
At the time, I had nothing to do with Hollywood, but this guy, Michael Ovis, wanted to meet
me.
So he's like, yo, I don't give a fuck, I want to meet Norris.
So we go down, we sit down in Violator, and Michael Ovis tells me, he goes, yo, listen,
I sold Samsung to Disney, and then I told Disney that was the worst shit they ever did
in their life, buy Samsung back.
So I sold it to Disney, Disney, Samsung, And by the way, it was $360 million lost.
And I'm just like, all right, cool.
Like, I'm fucking 26 years old from left rack city.
I'm trying to act like this is some normal shit.
But it's not no normal shit.
But I'm sitting there.
And then that night, I had went to the Bronx.
And it was a murder over $7. Not $7,000, not $17,000, not $170,000, not $17,000,000.
And I just seen a guy who told me, yo Nori, I jerked Samsung to buy Disney and bought
Disney to buy Samsung.
The companies I'm naming could be incorrect.
You might be wrong.
You might be wrong
But what I'm saying is
And he's sitting there telling me
Because they thinking I'm on their level
Like they thinking I'm working with 300 million
Or some shit like that
Where I'm sitting there and I'm like word
And that day
I seen
A murder happen for $7
Over a dice game
Bro let me tell y'all something.
I don't even think people are going to get what you're saying, bro, how deep that is.
That shit was fucked up.
What he's saying is that this dude fucked over a corporation for multi-millions of dollars,
and they still do business with each other.
And you know the reason why I brung up that story?
Because of what you said.
Because you know what he told me?
He said, oh, yeah, we're going to, he said, I'm going to ski in with them in Aspen.
Like, whatever companies it was, Samsung and Disney.
He's like, oh, yeah, we're all going to ski in together.
And I was like, what?
But still, it didn't hit me.
It didn't hit me until that nighttime.
At nighttime, I went.
I went to the Bronx.
I forget why I went to the Bronx.
I went to the Bronx.
I know I was going to someone's apartment.
And I walked through.
And I had to drop Lexus, which was in all actuality, they should have killed me too.
Because I had just drove through their block, had to drop Lexus right after a murder.
And I stood there and I asked.
And then I walked up in the building.
And then when I thought about everything I was like yo I don't belong
here at all
I'm the exact
opposite of what
I am the example
of what they're saying
and
what people don't understand
sometimes when people hate you
they hate you because
you are the exact example
of what they were not able to accomplish
in their own life. And I realize that
about myself. Sometimes,
because you know I'm the first one to go to the room.
God damn it, please say that one more time. God damn it.
Please say that one more time.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, please.
Fuck that, I do it for myself.
Yo, hold on.
You said sometimes people hate you
Because you're an exact example
Of what they could have been
I realized that about some of my old friends
That's crazy
Oh my god I got the holy ghost
I'm sorry
When people look at me
I'm an example because we all grew up together
So they look at me and like
That motherfucker actually had the audacity
To do it
To make it
To be God
No no no
I say this on purpose
To be God
And then to turn around
And clean himself up
Are you serious
To be God
I gotta take one more piss
I mean that's alright
We good
But
But this is something that I'll say
And um We good. But this is something that I'll say.
And we got to do better by ourselves, bro, to each other.
You know, one of the things that I wanted to say about your last album, bro,
like we keep saying that we're doing it for hip hop,
but hip hop don't do it for us.
I agree.
That's why I go to the, that's why I stay with, like, I'm going to be real with you, bro.
As conscious as I am, the hood motherfuckers are the ones that support me.
With the exception of Taleb, Kweli, and maybe 9th Wonder in hip-hop, the rest of the motherfuckers don't fuck with me.
T.I. fuck with me.
Jeezy fuck with me.
Snoop fuck with me.
E-40 fuck with me. You feel me?
Like, the rest of the... You're kind of saying everybody
in a sense. Huh? In a sense,
you're saying everybody. What I'm saying is that
conscious hip-hop don't fuck with me.
They don't. It's just the real
and I'm cool with that, because I don't give a fuck.
I'm for the people, bro.
I don't give a fuck about none of these
motherfuckers. I care about our people.
Motherfuckers that's struggling.
I don't give a fuck about no fucking these motherfuckers. I care about our people. Motherfuckers that's struggling. I don't give a fuck about no fucking titles, dog.
Jeezy gave me $20,000 doing Katrina.
I said, Banner, don't tell nobody that I gave this money
because it ain't about no fucking show.
It's about them people, and I know you going to give them that money.
T.I. raised $80,000, dog.
Out of all these motherfuckers Talib is the only one
That pick up the phone
When I call
Homie
You feel me
So like
I go like the gangsters
It's who I fuck with
Cause at least the gangsters
The gangsters tell you
I don't give a fuck about you
I don't give a fuck about you bitches
I don't give a fuck about you niggas
And then they make a million dollars
And you think they gonna change They told you They didn't give a fuck about N bitches. They don't give a fuck about you niggas. And then they make a million dollars and you think they're going to change.
They told you they didn't give a fuck about niggas and bitches.
And now you surprised?
When they get rich, you think they're going to change?
They told you what it was.
It's about this fucking bad nigga.
So I respect that.
You have a code.
You have a code of honor.
Your code may be warped.
But at least I like a man who stand for his word.
All this conscious shit, dog.
I don't want to be a part of the conscious community.
I am conscious because I know better.
I want people who want to do the real fucking work.
I ain't going to fuck about how you rap because I'm going to tell you and I'm not going to name no names.
I've been on tour with a lot of the conscious motherfuckers.
They be the ones with the white girls.
The motherfucking hood motherfuckers. They be the ones with the white girls. The motherfucking hood motherfuckers,
they be at Stroker's and Magic City
in the line with the black girls.
Like, these be the motherfuckers.
So, like, for me, I don't want no tags.
Are you ready to work?
I'm going to tell you something, and this is something real.
A gay dude DM'd me one time and said david where we
going with this david just hold on listen to me gay dude dm'd me one time and say david banner
i want to be a part of the movement but i'm gay and i say bro d-ray huh no
that's my man d-ray's my man D-Ray's my man You ain't no D-Ray gay
He is
Not D-Ray the comedian
Oh yeah that's my homie
Oh yeah
Bro you scared me
I was like that's my homie
But this is a black activist named D-Ray
With the blues
Oh yeah
So hoesy wow I saw His name D-Ray with the blues. Oh, yeah. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
I saw it.
I saw it.
And I'm like, let's drink, man.
Let's post.
A shot?
A shot?
Yeah, yeah.
We need a shot.
Can we get a shot real quick?
Real quick.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Yo, but y'all don't know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, we know what you're talking about.
And you know what?
I seen him.
I seen him in Confidence.com.
I told him I'm a fan.
I told him I follow him.
And that was it.
But he didn't fuck with me.
He went and spoke to Pharrell.
He left me immediately.
That's a fact.
You a cold piece of work.
No, I'm not.
Look, I'm not even trying to be funny.
Hey, who in my voice is in here?
You know what he's just saying.
No, I'm just...
Let me finish my point, though.
I'm not even trying to be funny.
This is really important.
A gay guy hit me.
He was like, David, man, I want to be a part of the black power movement, but I'm gay.
Right.
And I told him, bro, if you doing the work.
Yeah.
If you working, if you handing out boxes, if you seeing people, how the fuck I know who you fucking anyway?
If you working, let's get your work dog cuz when a policeman
put a fucking pistol to your head he not said excuse me are you Muslim are you
gay are you gay no he said my last year you were
niggas yeah you're a nigga so for me bro I don't care what you are you about to
work my dude of liberating my people we deal with all the rest of that shit later
on honey let me let me let me let me, let me, let me, let me, let me,
let me interrupt you for one second.
That's funny.
My six years on the West Coast just came.
Because you know why?
You know why?
It's because what I feel like we're doing right now
is I feel like we're announcing the problem, right?
Let's, while we're getting out of here,
let's lean towards the solution. Well, I disagree. Because all night, while we're getting out of here, let's lean towards solutions.
Well, I disagree.
Okay.
Because all night,
all we really been talking about
is solutions.
Can I tell you?
Okay.
The first thing we said
is own your own shit.
No, you're right.
You just laid out
a whole fucking...
You're right.
I'm only saying that
so you can give yourself credit.
No, no, you're right.
Dude, you laid out
two or three
political plans for people.
But I want to, because I know our fans,
so the people who haven't been to education,
who haven't been to school,
is they want to support.
Most of us, you know, to tell you the truth,
poverty-stricken people can never be racist.
Because you know why?
The Russian that lives next door to me
is damn near going through
the same struggle i'm going through um no no no don't get me wrong 90 of us is us but that
you know that chinese guy like i i live next door to to chinese people it was a black man who had
made love to a chinese woman uh korean woman, excuse me, Freddie, Joseph,
and Robert.
It was my best friends growing up.
And they were black and Korean.
And in the streets, they were naked.
Because they sold drugs, they shot niggas, they did whatever the fuck they wanted to
do.
But, so how do we move forward in the future?
This is what I'm trying to say.
I'm sorry I was long-winded.
No, no, no.
I just wanted to make sure you knew that, bro. You actually did a very good job of articulating a whole lot of fun bro
you just laid out a fucking union who has ever done I'm being very serious let's just be serious
for a second I'm very who has ever done that but you all right and you called me bro I could tell
he was nearly in tears, dog. Yeah, I did cry. And Norris is one of the hardest niggas I know.
I didn't know you knew that.
That's the first time I used it in a long time.
I didn't know.
I must be getting drunk.
I didn't know you knew that.
I used it.
Salud, man.
I didn't know you knew that.
Salud.
I'm getting teary eyed right now.
I can hear you, bro.
Salud.
Because you know what?
He was dead serious.
Hold on.
You got to take it.
You got to do it.
Drink it up.
I'm sorry.
What?
I'm the motherfucker that did this, though.
Let's stick to the... Hold though. Let's keep it continuing.
Hold on, let me do mine.
You know where we're from, we turned it over to make sure motherfuckers ain't cheating.
Oh, but yeah.
You know why I banned him?
Because I think of brothers like Kamikaze, right?
And I think of brothers like Capone, who I don't feel I'm better than or more privileged than.
I might have had a better chance, or I might have hustled more.
It doesn't make me a better person than him.
But if we came into this game together, I think about a person like Tragedy.
You know, he put me on.
Regardless of how it went from there, if he was to ever get sick,
I would want to be there for him.
And maybe I'm in Africa curing whatever or trying to do whatever I'm trying to do.
I shouldn't feel obligated to stop my life.
I feel like it should automatically come.
Pause.
That sounded crazy.
But because, you know what I'm saying?
And the thing about it is, if we're not going to do it, then who will?
Yeah.
Who will? At the end of the day, if we're not going to do it, then who will? Yeah. Who will?
At the end of the day, you said to me, right?
You said to us, who did I come with?
You came by yourself.
Pause.
But the fact that you...
Hold on.
At this point in our life, the pause makes it worse, don't it?
I know.
Because I didn't even hear it.
I'm so serious. No, but I didn't hear it until the pause makes it worse, don't it? I know. Because I didn't even hear it. I'm so serious.
No, but I didn't hear it until on the pause.
But now something happened in the banner, right?
Right.
Now, and God bless, because we don't want to wish that.
But if something happened, I don't feel like you should go in your own stash.
I feel like you put in enough work.
I feel like I've hit CEOs, myself, personally, and each one of them said
that's, he gonna do it on his
own. When is the
time for you not to do it on your own?
But the problem is,
Nori, and let me get back to my
political self. No problem.
Go
every time, everybody in
this room,
every time a white cop who we all know because of a video has killed an innocent black person.
If you go and look at their crowdfunding pages, they get anywhere from $500 to $2 million.
Wow. Bro, the man who killed
Mike...
Mike Jackson?
No, don't even worry about it.
Mike Brown.
Let's just stay on point, bro.
Okay.
Let's make it even better.
Who killed Trayvon Martin?
Say his name.
Don't say his whole name.
George Zimmerman?
Yeah.
This motherfucker is around
selling paraphernalia.
And all these so-called hard-ass motherfuckers
always talking this shit.
If I step on his shoes,
he'll take my life.
If I don't bring...
If he front me some dope
and I don't bring back a dollar
He'll slit my fucking throat
But this motherfucker is
You're right
Bro
It go back to what I said before
How many
How you right
Like if we don't love self
Like I love black people so much
And I know
And I'm just gonna be honest with you
I ain't one of the few people
That I know black folks love me, bro.
I really do.
Like, I do.
But, like, I know they love Pac better than they love my black ass.
Motherfuckers know who killed Pac.
Fuck what they say.
Motherfuckers always pillow talk when they fucking.
They always do.
You go, uh, uh.
Yeah, I do.
We always do.
He didn't do shit about that. He didn't do shit about that.
He didn't do shit about Emmett Till.
He didn't do shit about Mike Brown.
He didn't do shit about nobody.
So why would our children, I said it on the guard box,
which your black ass could go by.
Why would somebody want to be king when you let them kill a king?
Why would people want to be Martin Luther King when Martin Luther King stood for you
that killed his black ass and you did nothing? And motherfuckers talk about
I want to be peaceful or I want to be militant. They killed Martin Luther King
and Malcolm X and nobody did shit. So why
would a child want to be a revolutionary?
If a motherfucker is a racist, they're a billionaire or a fucking president.
You a motherfucking black revolutionary, you broke.
That's some bullshit.
And the reason is, is because most motherfuckers want to be a white man.
But what about the black revolutionaries that's not broke?
How do we support them?
But my question is, show me one.
Styles P is one.
I'm sorry, Styles P is a personal friend of mine.
Styles P is doing good, but if Styles P was white, doing the same thing, he would be a fucking billionaire.
I am doing marginally well.
I'm doing better than most black men. But for the work
I put in, if I
turned around and put the
same energy
into Trump,
what would that be? Let's be real.
No, we gotta be.
That's the reason why I say it's cool
to have the white negative people
be in power
because we got to be real with each other, dog.
If we don't have a real talk, it's bullshit.
If I turned around right now and supported Trump,
what you think these shoes would do?
What you think this jacket would fucking do on davidbanner.com?
Matter of fact, how many followers you have?
Tell me how many followers y'all have.
It's millions.
All together, yeah.
It's millions.
Go to davidbanner.com.
Everybody that's looking at our drink champs right now,
let's see what our people do right now.
If after this, hold on.
If after this views, I make, hold on, let's say,
watch this, because I'm about science. I told one of my friends, I do. Hold on, let's say. Watch this, because I'm about science.
I told one of my friends, I do
believe in God, but I
believe God is a God of science
and mathematics. God
doesn't have people that he likes more.
You may be susceptible,
more susceptible to his message because you
have melanin, because you come
from the original place,
but that's just like Steph Curry.
One more shot and that's it.
That's good.
All right.
People talk about Golden State.
And this is a good example.
People always talk about Golden State.
And I tell motherfuckers to get out of here about Golden State.
Before Kevin Durant, there was nobody on Golden State team who was supposed to be a superstar.
Steph Curry?
No, no, no, no.
He was never small.
He was too small.
He had bad ankles.
He can't jump.
Come on, dude.
Look at Steph Curry.
He's a kid.
That motherfucker practiced.
I read a book that said talent is only a head start.
God doesn't have any favorites.
The law of God is mathematical and it's scientific.
And if you follow it, you win.
That's the reason why they separated us from Africa.
If we knew the math and we knew the science, we can do the same thing that they do.
But this is my point.
Bro,
if we as a people
don't support and love
each other, we can have drink champs,
we can be David Banner,
they will let us be successful
individually, but if
we can't move the masses,
what's the reason why they kill
Pop? That's the reason why they killed Bob Marley.
Well, not killed Bob Marley,
but allowed Bob Marley legacy to be with the boys.
But they recently said that they killed Bob Marley.
Right.
So, it's your effect on people's movement.
If I say right now, everybody on Drink Champs,
if 30% of Drink Champs people right now,
not even David Banner's fans, Drink Champs, went and bought a David Banner jacket from DavidBanner.com.
30%.
We're going to push them to do that.
No, it's not about pushing them.
You got to say it one time.
Trump say some shit one time.
Yeah, he's proving a point right now.
He's right.
Yeah.
Bro, it's about our ability for people to do stuff for other people besides ourselves.
If we say on Drink Champs right now, we want Gilliam to win.
If 50% of Drink Champ motherfuckers, if 50% of David Banner motherfuckers, you can have all these.
That's why I don't really put no money in the followers.
Because to follow somebody is free.
I only calculate the people who went to DavidBanner.com and bought something.
Because you can click a button and say, ah, this motherfucker talking like a shit.
Let me see what he going to say.
It's how much money you put into it.
Drink that shit.
Salud.
I love y'all, bro.
Let me just say something.
I don't know if you know David Banner, but when the person come on Drink Champs, we salute them.
Because a lot of people,
they don't give you the fucking flowers until you
dead and gone. They want to say David Banner's
a good nigga. No, I'm going to tell you David Banner's
a good nigga. I'm going to tell you David Banner's a great person.
I'm going to tell you that David Banner's the person
that I want to represent for me. Can you call me
a God? For me. Can you call me a God?
And my whole people. Can you call me a God?
Not only me, my whole people. Can we say that
we're gods? Yes, yes. And you
know what? We're going to salute you while
you're alive. That's what the fuck we
do at Drink Check.
Salud. This is a terrible
shot. But I'm going to tell y'all
something before I drink mine. You didn't drink
all yours, bro. Relax, relax.
Because you my homie.
I'm going to drink all mine.
But I want to tell y'all something mine Yeah yeah But I wanna tell y'all
Something bro
Yep
I don't salute y'all
Both of you two
I love y'all
Love you too
And it's something
That we don't say as men
And it's our relationship
Like I told my
I told my homeboys
Like
The people that work for me
I don't love them
Until we had years Like you ain't my Fucking friend You work for me I don't love them Until we had years
You ain't my fucking friend
You work for me
Until consistently
I can see
Over years bro
There's so many times
That you could've said
Fuck me
Nore did something
That was so crazy
I'ma say one more thing
And I'ma drink my
Motherfucking shot
When Nore started
Figuring out
The TV game
He called me
And said Can I say this?
Yeah, please.
He was like, Banner, bro, I'm going to tell you how to do this shit.
He said, as a matter of fact, if you need some help, he said, bro, I don't even need no money from you, bro.
He said, I'll show you how to do this shit, man, and I'll do this shit for you.
Right.
Bro, me and you had only met like Four or five times bro
When you was doing that
Rock and roll shit
Brown
Oh you're talking about Mayday
Yeah oh yeah
No but we met on the mixtape days first
No no no
I know that
I was saying the mixtape days
But when you call me
About Mayday
Bro
I don't do no
Mayday
Bro I rap for a living
Bro when you call me Because of your consistency I don't know if you even, I rap for a living. Bro, when you call me, because of your consistency.
I don't know if you even remember that time I came down here and needed a pair of shoes, bro.
And I remember everything.
I remember people, I act stupid to catch a fucking fool.
Every time I ever call you, and we ain't talking much, every time I call you, you was front and center, dog.
When you call me about Mayday, bro, I didn't give a fuck about who
they were. You asked me, bro.
And that shit was jamming.
So, like, that's how we got to be about
each other.
Before I take my shot, I'll ask you
one thing before we close.
Bro, when they
killed Pop, they did nothing.
When they killed Biggie, they did nothing.
If you name all the people
from all our homies, bro,
who has ever been taken off of this earth,
we did nothing.
The only thing that I ask people
if anything ever happened to me
in life... Let's kill everybody.
I'm in.
He said it. I ain't tell you that.
I said it.
I don't want no peace. I don't want peace. I don't want you to go and fuck your shit up. I don't tell you that I said it. I don't want no peace. I don't want peace.
Right.
I don't want you to go and fuck your shit up.
I don't want you to go burn your shit.
I want you to find out who did it and go find that specific motherfucker.
Because one thing that I do like about the new revolutionaries, if you look, when somebody do some dumb shit, they tell you where them motherfuckers work.
Word.
They tell you specifically who their name.
We got to stop saying the man.
If we're talking about motherfuckers who are investing in the prison industrial system,
let's find out who that company is, who runs that company.
Jordan.
How he.
Yeah.
No, it's much bigger than Jordan.
I know.
But as you want to know.
But we got to talk about some white folks.
Yeah.
Okay.
We got to specifically find out who those people are, bro,
and handle that business.
This is Drink Champs.
I love you.
I'm David Banner and davidbanner.com.
I love you.
God damn, he's the first artist who ended his own thing.
But let me just say something.
Hold on, hold on.
David Banner, let me just tell you something.
As a person who met you in the early, you know, 2000s,
maybe even the early 90s.
I was sleeping on windy days, Flo.
I was homeless, bro.
I just want you to know how much you did for me.
Big up to windy days.
Big up to windy days.
How much you did for me.
Like, look at me, bro.
I'm serious.
Like, bro, you were the first.
You were the motherfucker that gave me money to go home.
Like, when you bought those beats for your brothers, bro.
All right, thank you.
For that military machine, you were the first person that paid significant money for a David Banner beat, bro.
Well, thank you.
I'll never forget this.
Right, listen, hold on.
You know what?
I was on Wendy Day's Float drinking beer and pound cake.
Wow.
The weed or real pound cake?
For intimates.
For intimates?
Okay, all right. But what I'm saying, bro, is that's one of the reasons why I even do this. Wow The weed or Real power For intimates For intimates Okay alright
But what I'm saying bro
Is
That's one of the reasons
Why I even do this
I don't let people
See my weaknesses
You sure
But for you all
I do this man
Because
It helps build your brand
And I know
Motherfuckers watch me
But bro
You both
Have done something
To invest in my career bro
And
Nori at the time like
what's the album that you did with that you did the first one for Foxy Brown
the firm. Nori know that? Yeah. Nori know that? Bruh like that was somebody I knew I was
in I was living in New York homeless on Wendy Day's floor, me and Raskass.
Wow.
Bro, when you blew and you ran that shit and you fucked with me at a point.
And I tell you somebody else who fucked with me, bro.
And I want y'all to say it because I know you know their name.
Who ran Rough Riders?
D from...
D and Y. Yep. Cause I know you know their name Who ran Rough Riders? D from DMW
Yep
DMW was two motherfuckers
That fucked with me
When
They were like two motherfuckers
Just like you bro
Like
Uh huh
They had signed Fiend
To Rough Riders
And Fiend was my homie
And
He was one of the people
That helped me
And believed in me
When I didn't have no money bro
I gotta try
Afterwards
Okay
Um
And DMW I remember I was in.
Ice Peak, everybody was in there, bro.
And I was in.
Rest in peace.
Thank you, bro.
I was doing a beat for Fiend, and we was listening to some Rough Riders shit,
and everybody was rocking, bumping their head.
And I was like, bro, that shit ain't jamming.
And I said it.
And all the motherfuckers in the room was like, oh, man, he from the South, man.
DMY was like, shut up.
Hey, Mississippi, what you got to say?
And I told him, like, man, that shit cool.
But you can do this, this, that, that, that, and the other.
And D.N.Y. both was like, hey, bro, do that shit.
And I remember that shit came out.
Yeah, everybody forgot about the Mississippi motherfucker.
Because I remember I went to New York
um It was eight days. Let me big you up big you up and then we're gonna
Real close up. You gotta go is you should you show you was one of the people who showed me you as a producer off
top
When you play me something
He was like, you know what the hook should be for this and I looked looked at you, and I was like, my album had just got done.
So I just wanted to tell you, I looked at you just like Pharrell.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to compare y'all.
But I looked, and I was like, oh, these are un...
Because I'm a New York nigga, and New York niggas don't really give niggas...
Y'all got egos.
Props outside of the thing.
But me, when I looked at Pharrell
and I looked at
a person like you,
I said,
okay,
this is the same person
as me,
but accent.
Bro,
can I give a shout out
to somebody, bro,
who don't get
no love, bro,
from doing our movement, bro?
Yeah.
Rest in peace
to Half a Mill, bro.
Half a Mill.
I was going to bring him up
earlier.
Yeah, man.
Half a Mill, man.
Half a Mill, like, yeah, bro. I was going to bring him up earlier. Yeah, man. Half a mil, man. Half a mil.
Like, yeah, bro.
I love that dude.
Like, it would make Cardan, Nelly.
Cardan.
Cardan.
Nelly.
That's all that penalty shit.
Yeah, it's a lot of shit, dog.
All that penalty shit.
Gina Sims, man.
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mark Moore.
Real quick, though.
I don't know what your relationship with him is, but he actually connected us in a lot
of ways.
Who happened, man?
No, TJ.
Yeah.
TJ.
So shout out to TJ.
He's a Florida legend.
Yeah.
You know, he's a world legend.
No, he is.
He is.
But he started.
He was the one that brought me to the moon.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So shout out to TJ.
Shout out to TJ.
Actually, he connected us.
Yeah.
And TJ was one of the motherfuckers that really pushed for Like A Pimp earlier.
Matter of fact, I was fucking with TJ before.
I'll tell you a secret about TJ.
TJ brought me T-Pain.
That's the first time I saw T-Pain was at TJ's DJs with the group.
Wow.
Right, when they redid my neck and my back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a Robin joint.
And he brought me B.O.B.
Yeah.
You know, like.
B.O.B.
That's the first time I saw B.O.B.
That's what I'm telling you.
At the moon.
That was the type of love that TJ had for me, man.
And TJ is one of the motherfuckers still to this day.
He's still putting it down.
Nah, he's a legend, man.
For independent artists, period period man and and I
appreciate no one shot out one more person but I want to shout out big fun
yeah on the bay man but and the reason why I do and the reason why I want to
talk about said big Vaughn I pop my collar yeah well the reason I want to
say DJ Vaughn it's cuz DJ Vaughn does the same types of things that other billion-dollar DJs do,
but he don't want the credit and the money, bro.
He breaks records.
When my career did this, I mean, Big Vaughn was the one that, like, when I did play,
when I did Get Like Me.
I always wondered, did you receive, you receive any criticism of the play?
Because that was a commercial commercial
Let me tell you
Y'all got time for the real story?
We got one
Shaka Zulu
Ludacris
And Tina Brown
Who was Chris
Chris Brown
Tina Davis
Tina Davis I'm sorry Please forgive me I've been Chris Brown. Tina Davis. Tina Davis, I'm sorry.
Okay, I got you back.
Tina, I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I've been drinking all night.
Tina Davis.
They both came to me, and they didn't know that they told me the same thing.
I had kicked open 15 doors in Universal because I had worked eight months for Universal Universal and they didn't cut my check.
They owe me like a $600,000 check.
I kicked open $15 in New York.
Bitch, where my money at?
And the thing that I didn't understand is I kicked open 15 doors.
You didn't hear this black man cussing out this white woman in the door before you?
Like, why didn't everybody leave?
They actually put me.
And it's funny.
I told Raheem Devon.
They had put me And it's funny I told Rahim and Devon They had put me
On the terrorist list
In Universal
Cause I had worked
And they didn't have my money
I worked eight months
For Universal
I was the type of person
I would
Most artists did
Two weeks of promo
I did eight months
At a time
You know what I mean
And what happened was
Tina Davis
And Shaka Zulu
came to me privately and said, bro, these white folks are terrified of you.
And the reason why I wasn't getting a big publishing deal
is because you know that's when they was giving
three, they was giving millions for publishing deals.
And I had records.
And people didn't know the big records,
like people didn't know I produced Maroon 5.
People didn't know that I did Chris Brown and Justin Bieber.
People don't know that, bro, I've done 80 major.
People didn't know.
What's the dude that produced Michael Jackson?
Quincy Jones?
Quincy Jones.
I actually knew I wanted you to say it.
People didn't know I produced. Me and Warren Campbell produced Quincy Jones, bro Jones actually knew I wanted you to say it people didn't know I produce me and Warren Campbell produced Quincy Jones
Yeah, but people don't know that's that's why when you say all the production people don't know what I've done as a producer
Yes, it went way too long
But one of the problem was is that I was so attractive as an artist people didn't want to accept me as now
I'm just joking. No, you're right. No, you ain't joking. My point is this.
What were we talking about?
We were talking about life.
It was a point I was trying to make, though.
Quincy Jones.
No, it was a bigger point, though.
I was saying all that shit to say.
It was Quincy Jones.
Huh?
Universal.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
What happened with me,
oh, for play.
I know, that's what you asked me
why I did play.
That was such a commercial.
No, no, no.
Yeah, that was the point.
What happened was,
Tina Davis and Shaka Zulu
said that white people
are scared of you
and they are about to blackball you.
If you don't find a way to
become relatable you will never be on the radio or tv again gonna play with it gonna play with it
i had to do what i had to do and like he's awesome and big bond broke that record. And the thing was, let me tell you about men.
All my
homies.
My homeboy Twa, I tell you, he
even said it. All my
homies looked at me like, you fucking crazy.
And all you motherfuckers that said
that I be... But they look at you crazy because
it was a hit or they look at you crazy because
you've been so
hardcore military. That's the train bringing me my money that's the bridge yeah that's so much money
on it yeah you don't know what we're calling yeah but what else what happened was it's terrible was
when the whisper song came out whisper that's the ying ying twang right who produced y'all
y'all remember who produced the ying ying twang no no No, no, no. That was you? No. It wasn't Lil Jon.
It was you?
No.
It was DJ Khaled Park.
Oh, Khaled Park.
That's right.
Because he was the one that signed the Yin Yang Twins.
Why? He said, I want to do intimate club music.
He said, let's create a movement.
Do you want to be a part of it?
And he said, David Banner, do the most shocking shit, but
don't be aggressive. Everybody's used to you
going, yeah, yeah!
And I was like, bro, it was the hardest shit
because I'm used to, I'm cropped.
Motherfuckers throw bottles and
I'm crowd surfing.
And if you go and listen to that song,
I'm talking about putting thumbs in
girls' buttholes,
putting it in her mouth and running back like Randy Moss.
But I was saying the dopest shit, but I was whispering.
So it wasn't that bad.
You know what I'm saying?
And people thought, damn, he biting off the whisper song,
but it was the same people who made the song.
Right, right, right.
And that put me back in the game.
But let me tell you
something that nobody
ever knew about that.
Besides Get Like Me,
that was the biggest
song in my career.
Get Like Me.
But it was the most
uncomfortable time
in my life
because that,
well, let me tell you
what happened to me.
And this is serious
and it was so uncomfortable
for me and I can say it now
because I'm older.
I'm used to being
a fucking hunter.
I'm used to being the motherfucker everybody's scared of.
When I made play, girls wasn't scared of me no more.
The girls were hunting me.
Like, girls were taking their hands.
I remember one girl took a hand and put it under my ass and grabbed my balls.
No, I'm serious.
I squeezed.
I squeezed her fucking hand. I squeezed her motherfucking hand.
And I turned around and looked at her. I said, are you a mother? She said, yes.
I said, look at yourself. I'm a grown ass man. I'm a grown ass man. Calm your ass down.
And you squeezed the shit?
No, I squeezed her hand so she couldn't pull her hair down from the balls.
I wanted her to see, you know, this moment.
And she said, I am a mother.
I was like, now be a woman about this shit.
Now give me a couple seconds.
We can holler later because she was beautiful.
But she had your shit.
She had my shit in her hand.
But the problem is that my shit was bigger than her hand, so it was still free.
But the point of that my shit was bigger than my hand, so it was still free. But the point about play was this.
Is that people complained about play, but that without them being real.
As much as these conscious motherfuckers, I'm going back to the conscious motherfuckers.
Talk that shit.
The reason why people come to my lectures is because of like
a pimp, play
and get like me.
Because you are somebody that could have
kept making those songs, but you came
back for us. And we
fuck with you. And I thank
you for it.
Yo, man.
I can't stand up.
Yo, let me tell you something.
This is Drink Champs alumni.
When it comes to sitting here talking politics, talking real,
like, you know, we've been having a couple of episodes.
Oh, motherfucker.
When I was thinking about it, I said, yo, I just hit him off the blue.
I was like, yo, it's time for you to come back.
He didn't question me at all.
This is where I'm like, relax.
I got to big you up.
He didn't question me in a minute.
I thought he was going to say, yo, Norio, I don't got no album coming out.
I don't got nothing.
Which most artists do.
You said, well, what day, brother?
And this time, I ain't talking about no. Because what's funny, do you remember well what day brother and this time i ain't talking about no because it was funny
the last do you remember the last time i i can say it now because it's over with last time i came to
dream chef is when i got that gun charge at the airport we didn't talk about that thank y'all for
not talking about that that's just so over with yeah um because i was rushing here i came straight
from the studio, and whenever
I go to the studio, I keep my pistol. I had my pistol
in my backpack, and I didn't think about it, and I
was rushing to get here, and I
almost didn't make it to the last drink, champ,
because I almost got a gun charge
in the airport. But the fact that
all my shit is ready, all 30, 40
guns that I have are all registered to me.
30, 40 guns? Yeah.
No, I'm not playing. I got one.
I got one now, if y'all don't mind me
pulling the bitch out of the way.
No, you can relax.
Okay.
But listen, the point was this,
that like bro, I almost really got fucked up
last time I came to drink Champs.
Y'all didn't say nothing about that bro,
but the truth is man
At the end of the day man
The reason like this time
I didn't ask about no tickets or nothing
I paid for everything
Because I'm honored man
Like think about this
I just want to say this about y'all now
I am a very popular
Handsome motherfucker
Go ahead
But where
But where Drink Champs is now, bruh, I'm a choice for y'all.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's be honest, bro. Look at what the other motherfuckers do. I'm not talking about y'all.
Look at what these other hoe-ass niggas do. And when I say nigga, I mean nigga. I mean the same thing white folks mean.
These hoe ass niggas do.
Once they can smell they own ass.
Like, yeah, I'm powerful.
I'm beautiful.
All that shit.
But this is a choice, bro.
And think about the shit that we talk about.
The shit that we talking about right now.
Get other shows fucking cancelled dog
And y'all brought me here
And y'all keep the other motherfuckers away
And say we want David Banner
Let him talk that shit
I personally
And I don't even have to call EFN
On a situation like you
Because me and him already have talks
But when I had you know
Tyler Carly and we had Depp Prez.
Then we had Hakeem Green and the more.
I like to call him the more.
That's my brother.
And I said, damn, you know what?
It's time for it, David Bennett.
Because last time you had came, Daz the Dillinger had came.
And I didn't want you to feel like, you know, you were shorted in any which way.
Hold on, hold on.
Stop, stop, stop, stop stop let's be real yeah
dash the dog pound snoop my family homie no no no let me tell you did you hear what he said on
dream champs of course i did he said you family homie right right that felt so good to me
because hold on do do you know who cron don is? Yeah of course So Cron Don
Is on Black Lightning now
Cron Don
And his family
And Snoop Dogg
When I was in LA
The whole
They whole family bro
They looked out for me
For Daz to be there bro
I was fucking honored
And he said that
On fucking TV.
Like, David Banner, you are affiliated, homie.
Like, bro, I never, ever thought that in life, bro, because Daz, the dog pound him, that's my fucking family, bro.
But we want you to know how appreciated you are here.
Oh, yeah.
And that's the thing about it is because you're a crusader.
What I mean by that is.
Feel the ag.
What's up, dog?
What I mean by that is.
Feel the agony.
You always, your life is the big of someone else.
Yeah.
So this is probably why Drink Champs made me be attractive to you because this is your only time.
But watch this.
Is it your time?
No, no, no.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Watch this.
This is your time to get picked up.
Let me show you how powerful
Dream Champ is.
What did I just tell you
about being a god?
If I am a god,
I don't mind another god
shining while I shine.
But this is your time to shine.
Oh, thank you.
And this is us.
This is our time to say
that we appreciate you.
Thank you.
This is our time to say that,
you know,
when we think about black people
and we think about people
who speak for us, you know, it's you, T.I., there's Dead Prez, there's Hakeem Green, there's my man, the Black Mall.
And there's not a lot of people that we will want.
Because, like, I'm going to be honest.
If I'm getting drunk in Barbados somewhere, I don't want Flavor Flavor to talk to me.
He's my nigga.
I love him.
Yeah.
But I don't want Flavor Flavor to talk to me. But let me nigga. I love him. Yeah. But I don't want Flavor Flavor to talk for me.
But let me tell you something.
I'm not sure if he's getting cocaine now.
We was about to edit this shit a long time ago.
Let me say this and then we...
Let go, Duvall.
No.
Let me tell you this.
Let me tell you this last thing.
Bro, if we really about the people, it ain't about me, bro.
No, it is.
Look at me, seriously.
It's not.
Let me tell you. Because that's what's wrong with black people we love malcolm we love martin we love
all of these different people if you look at other movements it's not about people it's about the
movement i always tell people and i learned this from er Badu, I am a humble servant of my people.
It's the movement, dog.
Because if they love me, what the fuck they do to everybody they love?
Say it.
They kill them.
So if I focus on David Banner, David Banner, David Banner,
I said this, and motherfuckers got mad at me.
I said Malcolm and Martin, and that probably should have ended a long time ago, I said Malcolm and Martin and that probably should have ended
a long time ago. I said Malcolm and Martin
was more of a hindrance to the movement than
it was a help. Everybody said, what do you
mean by that? If you look at the
black power movement, it was moving
slowly.
Malcolm and Martin came.
They did this.
When Malcolm and Martin died, what did the
movement do? It was like Drake and Meek Mill. What happened when Malcolm and Martin died, what did the Muslims do? They was like Drake and Meek Mill?
Watch this.
What happened when Malcolm and Martin died?
It fell.
It stopped.
I would have rather it crawled and kept going.
Bro, I'm a humble servant of God, dog.
I serve my people.
That's why I make money other ways.
I don't count on my people because I know my people are not conscious enough right now.
If my people don't love being black, how the fuck would I expect them to love me?
So for me, it ain't about me.
Listen to me.
I'll tell you this.
Godbox Lecture Series.
You remember it was the number one black lecture on the circuit about two and a half years ago.
I told people this.
I speak three times better than I actually speak at lectures.
And people say, why don't you give them it all?
I don't want you to catch the Holy Ghost.
I want you to keep your mind intact.
Because if I teach you, right, they kill me, they can't kill all of us it's not about me it is about the people
and the people as a collective is the manifestation of god the most high so if if we big up me too
much like i i have i have a muslim homie and he tells me bro i don't like accolades and he said
why not and i said he said because if you give me accolades. And he said, why not? And he said,
because if you give me accolades, I want to be
judged by God by the accolades
I receive. I am a servant
of the people. I am not a humble servant.
I think slaves are humble.
I am a God.
I am a God.
But do you know the most powerful thing about Jesus?
What did
Jesus wash on the people?
He washed their feet.
And he was the son of God, supposedly.
And he washed the people's feet.
Because it's not about me.
It is about the movement and my father.
It is...
I'll stop.
I got the Holy Ghost.
Say this thing about that.
I got the Holy motherfucking Ghost, nigga. Hold. I got the Holy Motherfucking Ghost, nigga.
Hold on, let me take a pee again.
It's done.
We're done.
We're done.
Bye, y'all.
I'm holding this up when we take the picture.
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