Drink Champs - Episode 154 Chicago Edition (TimBuck2 Tribute)

Episode Date: December 24, 2018

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this special episode the Champs fly out to the windy city Chicago to honor and celebrate the life of Chicago legend Dj TimBuck2\. Along with the DC Family... and some of Chicagos best djs they talk current events and Chicagos hiphop history. Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 It's Drink Champs, motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. What it good, B-O-B-D? What it soon be? It's your boy NRE. What up?
Starting point is 00:02:53 It's DJ EFN. And this is Drink Champs' motherfucking yappy hour on the road. Chi-town. Chi-town's edition. Make some noise! First off, we got to address the situation. Rest in peace to Timbuk2. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Also, rest in peace to EFN's grandmother. You know, I appreciate you still coming here, knowing the tragedy that you're going through and still holding it down. So we want to get that out. So let's get a little moment of silence to start this off. One, two, three. Awkward moment of silence when it's music. Mad hip-hop party going in the background.
Starting point is 00:03:25 But we in motherf Motherfucking shout out To Al Masebo That's definitely A good cause We're out here for man So rest in peace Timbo too I wanted to let people know
Starting point is 00:03:34 I just got back from LA I'm very What do you call it Exhausted I'm still burping Vodka from three days ago What you was doing in LA Tell the people
Starting point is 00:03:42 I was helping Fat Joe Murder his wife in a video. What? It's terrible. I told him I hated this concept. What's the treatment for this? He's killing his wife in this video. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:03:53 That's terrible. That's some damn shit. I fucking hated it. But he asked me to be there for him and I was just like, fuck it. He's never told me, though.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So I had to go pick up the Lou Williams who's out there. I saw drama You took a flick with drama Yeah John was at the hotel Okay Yeah cause you know
Starting point is 00:04:08 He's over his light skinned beef So I feel like him and Drake Him and Drake You know they're over it now So we need to get it Where's Where's Sig With the
Starting point is 00:04:16 With the bud Right here Got you You got some bud Alright cool You left the bud You left the bud in my In my spot too
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah yeah yeah That was my bag So we out here in Chi-Town. It's not your first time in Chi-Town. I came with Mayday once, but I like to say it is my first time, to be honest with you. Oh, okay. All right. Well, big up to my brother Cookie out here.
Starting point is 00:04:35 You know what I'm saying? I heard they said, no, we got mad people with him. I said, that's the Puerto Rican family. That's the Puerto Rican. Let's make some noise for Puerto Rican side. God damn it. We are doing it out here. How's the sound? You look like you have not
Starting point is 00:04:47 sniffed cocaine today. Is this true? Not yet. Okay, how about you, Boris? You got mayonnaise coming out your knuckles? You got mayonnaise coming out his knuckles, Boris. Yo, but Timber 2 is a very important DJ to Chi-Town.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And all the DJs, I like this event, all the DJs come together and they basically live in this memory. So we're here. We got a couple of DJs going to stop by in a little while. How you doing, Butch Rock? I'm good, man. You good?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Happy to be here. Pull up to the mic. Kapone did pay for the drinks. Nah, Kapone paid for one round. One round? Kapone paid for nothing. Why was that one round when Kapone paid for the drink? Hold on, hold on, hold on. We're not going to do this.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Say how sunny it was. Say he's not. Why am I never around with a Paul Pace one drink? Hold on, hold on, hold on. You don't throw that out. Hold on, slow down, slow down. You buying drinks, though? Huh?
Starting point is 00:05:37 You buying drinks? Yeah. I'm buying Bacardi tonight, baby. Yeah. Tell him. And ironically, he drinks beer now. He doesn't even drink Bacardi. No, I've been drinking Bacardi too, man. Tell him. And ironically, he drinks beer now. He doesn't even drink Bacardi. I've been drinking Bacardi too.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I said that when I seen him drinking beer. I said, what are you doing? This is not the classic EFN that I know. No, he goes crossfit after this. You're growing up. You got a baby now. You got to do it. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Make some noise. That's right. For years, I didn't think this shit worked. I'm just throwing it out there. Fucking foul. You thought he got fixed? Because I'm just saying, man, like, you know, he's been going raw for quite some time. I said who?
Starting point is 00:06:13 This motherfucker. Like he was around me. Hold on, hold on. In my mind. Hold on, hold on. But in your mind, him going raw, so he caused me. You know they share the condom once. Oh, this guy. You and Boris? No, Boris, no, no. But in your mind, him on Raw, so he should go work. You know they share the condom once. You know that, right?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Oh, this guy. You and Boris? No, Boris and Sonny. Oh! Oh! Oh! Don't do me the question. I wasn't there when that happened.
Starting point is 00:06:35 What? What language is that? That's a crazy condom right there. Don't throw me the question. I don't think you can do that. That's a crazy condom. A Haitian condom? With a Peruvian.
Starting point is 00:06:43 With a Peruvian condom? With a Peruvian wrestler. This is loose to me. This is loose to me. You know Boris do Lucha Libre? Nacho Libre? On the weekends. He comes with a one piece.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And he comes. Lucha Libre again. He comes out like Nacho Libre. You see he's drinking that dark. He's drinking that dark. Do he eat the corn too? Oh the corn? The street corn?
Starting point is 00:07:01 It's fantastic. I believe in science now. It's fantastic. Say it again. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. I believe in science, man. It's fantastic. Say it again. It's fantastic. I believe in science. I don't believe. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 What does he say? I believe in science. I believe in science. I believe in science. And he has an awkward smile and shit. Big up to John Monopoly. Yes. Big up to Sharif Williams
Starting point is 00:07:22 putting this event together. John Monopoly out there handling some business with Kanye, I believe. Yes. Big up to Sharif Williams putting this event together. John Monopoly out there handling some business with Kanye, I believe. Yes. And it kind of like, it kind of be a full-time job working with Kanye, right?
Starting point is 00:07:36 I mean, it got to be like a super full-time job. It got to be. Right now. You got to understand, dealing with Kanye is like dealing with five different people
Starting point is 00:07:44 in one. Yeah. Now, you got to deal with this Kanye, Monday Kanye. Then you got to understand, dealing with Kanye is like dealing with five different people in one. You got to deal with this Kanye, Monday Kanye. Then you got to deal with the Tuesday Kanye. Then you got to deal with the cocky Kanye. The bipolar Kanye. The humble Kanye. You got to deal with all them Kanyes at once. Cocoa butter Kanye.
Starting point is 00:07:59 The Vaseline Kanye. Ashy knuckles Kanye. You know what I'm saying? You got to deal with all the Kanye's at once. It got him. It got him. I would imagine that's a full time. That's a full time.
Starting point is 00:08:14 When I seen Tim jump in that car, I knew he was out of his mind. But did they make that a meme so quick, though? That was hard. Everybody start jumping. Who was the first nigga that ran in front of the press? Who was that? Bad people did that. No, no. no the first one though little what's that little way who was it who was it that ran from it was the interview in tmz and the nigga just voted oh no that was a tmz that was um that was nodwag Nigga was doing TMZ and nigga voted. Little Uzi Vert. Little Uzi Vert.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Oh, no, that wasn't TMZ. That was, um, that was Narwhal. Narwhal. That was Narwhal. He did that to Narwhal? Yeah, he did that to Narwhal. Listen, Narwhal knows so much about you. That's how it's going.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You know, he's been trying to. I thought he'd be shitting on me. No, he keeps. Everybody, he wants to do that South by Southwest, and you keep ducking South by Southwest. Nah, I ain't South by Southwest. Just so you know. Just so you know Just so you know
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yeah he don't like festivals I don't like festivals Cause my sneakers Never come back the same My sneakers I come back with corns And shit like that Yeah man
Starting point is 00:09:14 People always And you can't be mad If they step on your sneakers Street corn Yeah Street corn Street corn That's the corn
Starting point is 00:09:21 He likes it Sonny you be careful Over there alright You be careful over there, all right? You be careful. You watch yourself, all right? Which rock? Hit that.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I don't want you to hear, though. Remember we had you overseas? Oh, he did. Remember we had you overseas? That's true. And then you smoked? I got to work first. And then I was so high, I didn't even let Poem's Verse play. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I remember that. I remember't even let poems verse play No Wanted to kill him Well with the casino. Come on. Who's that the casino? We want a lot of money. I want a lot of money How about the H&M no, no, no me cuz my parents was from H&M. I'm not gonna lie. You the first man I was from H&M. I'm not going to lie, you're the first man to ever say bye. He's such a composer from H&M. I never knew H&M was a goodbye. I didn't know Men Goodbye
Starting point is 00:10:08 was a goodbye gift from H&M. No, but the story was, let's get it real, because I had no sweatpants. They won't let me in. And I went to the game
Starting point is 00:10:15 with so many. Tell me where we left him. In what country is this, first of all? It's in Amsterdam. I woke up seven in the morning. He wore the pants
Starting point is 00:10:21 with pink buckles. And it's mine. And it's mine. You got a lot of things to say. It was badass. This got a lot of things that's mine. It was bedazzled. This wasn't true! But what happened was, they bedazzled it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It was bedazzled a little bit. You are lying! He bought it bedazzled, or did he bedazzle it? It has sprinkles on it. It was good. It was a legit $30 pair of pants. It did not have sprinkles. We couldn't get in the casino. I had to go buy some pants.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Is that the finger right there? I'm going to knock it off. No, you didn't do that. You didn't do that. Oh! Listen, I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh! Oh! Oh! Yo, I quit. I quit. I quit. I quit. Yo.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We're going to leave that as in-house and leave it alone. I was about to explain. No. Leave it alone. I didn't-house and leave it alone. I was about to explain. No, I was about to explain. I was about to explain. I didn't even know. I didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I caught myself. My nigga, I oughta hit you with the mic. Not as a dancer. Not as a dancer. We don't know. We don't know. Pour some of that on the thing. Yo, but listen, but listen.
Starting point is 00:11:20 1738. It was one day. It was a fun day. We got super high. I got paranoid. This is when I first started smoking again. I got paranoid and I watched the movie Taken before I came to Amsterdam and I kept saying, yo, somebody go take this.
Starting point is 00:11:35 We're gonna get taken. Nori like, yeah, you bargain, my nigga. You want to share a taxi cab? You want to share a taxi cab? Taxi is expensive. I was scared, I was scared, man. I was scared. Taxi is expensive.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Taxi is expensive. I was definitely scared was scared I was scared I was definitely scared I was definitely scared I was definitely scared And that was the time We went to Paris too right We went to Paris We went to Germany Two days
Starting point is 00:11:52 That's when Bush Tucked his chain in But the realest shit No no Yo Bush I ain't gonna lie No no no no Hold on
Starting point is 00:11:59 I gotta cut you off I gotta cut you off Cause the funniest shit About that whole trip When we went to Pino the went to Pino the pizza and then
Starting point is 00:12:07 the gypsies walked up to Butch and scared him so ill. He gave his food away. But they was a girl. They was a girl. They were like this. They was a kid.
Starting point is 00:12:16 They was a girl. No. You don't take your cheese and Chicago. No, but he gave his food away. You don't take your cheese and Chicago. You don't take your cheese
Starting point is 00:12:23 and Chicago. No, but I don't. He gave his food away. You don't take your cheese and Chicago. He gave his food away. He gave his food away. He gave his food away. Let me tell you. You wanted your food. This is why I'm disrespectful. I'm going to fuck this shit up. Let's go back to the finger.
Starting point is 00:12:38 This is why I'm disrespectful. The lady came up to him and said and he gave her the food. The lady went like this. I don't want this shit. Yeah, that's what happened. That's what happened. And then he wouldn't.
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Starting point is 00:14:39 I was like, fuck you. Even if I wanted to give it to her, because she was mad disrespectful. So, Butch gives her the food. She takes the food and just throws it down Was with somebody The kids she was like this is my kid. The kid was with a whole other person the morning before. And it was like, they was going hard. They was going hard.
Starting point is 00:15:10 But Butch is scary. No, but Butch is my friend. It was a joke. It was a joke. You're my friend. But I've never seen someone tucking a chain. So who do you give homeless people? That's like tucking your shit on 34th Street.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Stop. But you my brother. It is. It is. In front of Macy's. Damn, bro. It's in front of Macy's. It is. It is. It is. In front of Macy's. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:27 In front of Macy's. Put the police out there. It is. Let's go back to the finger. Let's go back to the finger. Let's go back to the finger and the shiny finger. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:35 No, no, no, no. Let's go have a taxi. Taxi's so damn expensive. Hold on. I don't like that. I don't like that. No, we're not doing that. But we here for a reason.
Starting point is 00:15:43 We here for a reason. What reason is that? We're in Chicago. We're. But we here for a reason. We here for a reason. What reason is that? We in Chicago. We in Chicago because Bush is no gypsies in Chicago. You good. You good. Sick.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You sick. Wait, what's with Lito? Lito. Lito. Lito is not in this. It's because he has a glove for Capone. Oh. He did.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He did. I'm ready to get him there. I'm ready. If we call timeout, we call timeout. Real timeout. Real timeout. Real timeout. Real time it. I'm ready to get it in. I'm ready. If we call time out, we call time out.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Let's have a peace right now before we go. Hold up, hold up. Y'all don't even know what the finger said in. If he says sorry right now, I'll shut up. Tell him to say sorry right now. I'm sorry. I made him say sorry. Nah, it's all love, CMB. We out here in Chi-town. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry!
Starting point is 00:16:25 Nah, it's all love, C&B. We out here in Chi-town. We got a million stories. I'm honored to be here, even though they banging on me, now I'm high. Fuck it. Nah, it's dope, man. It's dope. I enjoy seeing you tuck a chain in, sir.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'll enjoy seeing you- But you not gonna say something about him? You gonna say? He gonna say you glad to take your chain in, and you gonna say something about him? No, no, no. He got creased it. Why you gonna say something? Oh you glad to you Shannon and you go say It looks like a big... Get it off his... Yo, but I'm going to tell you how it is like this. For niggas that, all my brothers that been, you know, gracious to gracious on tour, I know y'all see some foul shit. But we're going to leave that shit on tour.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You might be the foulest. You might be the foulest. Since you bring it up. Since you bring it up. I know. I know. Has. God de la boca. I got some shit on too, but we gonna keep it The finger's the worst. No, no, no. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. You see that boy, Mario? Mario, what up?
Starting point is 00:17:47 You went to the Gucci store. Man, come on. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Oh my god I know grab me water. No Yeah, I'm gonna waste a dream really mark I stick very why oh this is probably bad worst days of my life I see my mom who so dr. Phil and dr. Oz today. That's all that's all that's black love That was that was any questions. Dr. Oz asked The funny shit is I was surprised and the questions Dr. Oz asked, I, the funny shit is, I was surprised because the average couple would have walked out.
Starting point is 00:18:50 They answered his question. He talked about the jail. Dr. Oz, not Dr. Phil. No, Dr. Oz, nigga, because they was talking
Starting point is 00:18:55 about her baby, how she was having complications. You know, he's a doctor. He talks about remedies and shit. back here.
Starting point is 00:19:01 He was an advocate, right? Yeah. It was dope. He was asking about jail, about her being a single mom. I? But it was dope. Yeah, everything. It was dope. He was asking about Jam, about her being a single mom and all this shit. I didn't know what... It was dope.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I didn't know. I didn't say later. Shout out to all you motherfuckers. Yeah, that's dope. I think I had a tattoo of everything. That was dope. You made a real doctor of everything. That was dope.
Starting point is 00:19:17 That was great. What side conversation is going on over here, man? Where he going? My man, he had a tattoo of everything. Everything. That made it down with every gang. That nigga was blood, crisp like this. You like this? Yeah, where you going? Where you gang. That thing was blood, Christmas, King, neck. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:25 where's the blood? That was it. And I was trying to act like it was normal. I was just like, but whoa, whoa. But you point your hand, you point your 17.
Starting point is 00:19:34 That's a clutch. I ain't gonna lie, I remember we went to the Saucer Awards, and Daz and Garopp had a duel with them, and he had, he had a shit like this, and when he took his shit off, his whole face, like he, That shit like this when he took his shit off his whole
Starting point is 00:19:45 face like he that's what was scary no part of his body had had no tattoos everything that the wildest shit was though so we we with them we seen them all that we get the fat burger start busting everybody looking at him like he's both all us down cuz you gotta do something I think it was gangster yeah man do you on the gram right yeah man look at Tito why Why he posted this picture? Yo, what is that? Let me see. Hold on. Can he show you the broken award? No, I didn't see the broken award. Well, that's a cheater. He got a cheater next to him?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Damn. He got a cheater. He broke it. You heard about that shit? He break it? He broke our award, though. He break it. What award?
Starting point is 00:20:40 He broke it. But that's character for Dre Chaz, man. You know what? It's character. It's fucked up, but it's character. He church yes you know what you see what happened at the Wilson a last year at the Stanley Cup the niggas was on a parade rotation we can't be mad we want. Yeah, but we didn't break it. He broke it. But we're from the hood. We broke out with some other shit. No, but it was a fan that broke their shit.
Starting point is 00:21:08 No, I know. Yeah, they put their shit over the joint trying to... Holy shit. 1738. The Stanley Cup. Whoa. They broke that shit on the floor. So we drink to it.
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Starting point is 00:25:59 Yo, Bush, you got to tell us how you come up with these little sketches about us. I mean, you know, being around these guys so long, you gotta tell us how you come up with these little sketches about us. Uh-oh. I mean, you know, it's just being around these guys so long. No? No, but you won. You won with that one sketch that you did. Hang, hang, hang. By our faces, yeah. Hope you saw it being.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Killed it. That was hard. That was hard. Killed it. That's he from Philippines. You know, the E-Dog. From a Philippines. He's from one Philippines?
Starting point is 00:26:22 I'm from 57. Just focus on me and him. We about to go one on one right now. And I'm going to tell you, I'm number one with this finger right here. I didn't let you know. I weave it. Say sorry right now.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Say sorry. I'm sorry. Which finger is it? Which finger is it? I don't know, but I got to wash my hands after this, man. I got to wash my hands after this. This is my guy. That's my nigga.
Starting point is 00:26:43 We boys. We boys. We brothers. I had Capone in my club the other night, you know. Which one of y'all had on the same pair of socks for a weekend? Oh, that's Capone. So, we went on a tour to Germany. This guy, he has 500 outfits with one pair of socks. I said, no fair. But he's like, yo, they're insulated. I said, it don't matter. We've been here 30 days. One pair of socks. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold smell like... Rice. Go ahead. Dude. It smell like rice. Yeah. This shit smell like...
Starting point is 00:27:28 Nah, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Your room is racist. Why? Yeah. Cause it smells like rice. That's racist. What the fuck? What do you sweat? Do you sweat rice? His room on the road? Yo, I swear to God. He be having a crack pot.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He has a crack pot. Yo, I call HR on this fucking program. This is racist, bro. Bro, it's the only nigga that go to Japan and be talking like this. You make it sticky rice in your room? Oh, yeah. Sticky rice. Sticky rice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Nah, I ain't gonna lie. It does, though. Yeah, for real. Go to his room right now. The room's right there. From the what? Go to the phone room. We went to the what?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Go to the phone room. Go to the phone room. This shit smell the best. Go to the phone room. Tell the truth. Go to the phone room. Who room smell the best? Go to the phone room. Look at this. Who room't smell the Pest Sauture? Who won't smell the Pest Sauture?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. Stop waving that thing. I just say I don't know what goes on I'm like, little Yaga. Yo, yo, yo, yo, come on, come on. Come on, there's Paul. There's Paul. Sonny, say something. Sonny with action.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Sonny with action. Come on, there's Paul. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Sonny with action. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You going to keep talking too long, bro?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Oh, God. Here we go. Now, we having fun. See, that's the thing is you got to have fun with your friends. You got to have fun. Even when they want to smell like rice. But Rock is not taking this as fun. He is taking this personal.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He's taking this fully personal. He's going to get you back later on. He's not going to let your verse play this whole time. Nah, it's not like that. Yo, I got put so high in F's there once. That is true. I didn't mean it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He never let Capone perform. I'm not gonna lie. He was so high. I'm not gonna lie. A lot of the time. He would just play my verse and then go to another day. Yo, so. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:41 This guy was so nice to me. Okay, okay. Okay. That's the yonder right there. You were so high. You remember that, bud? I do, I right. This guy was so nice to me. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. That's the yonder right there. You were so high. You remember that? I do, I do. You remember that?
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's the yonder. Oh, okay. Look at that. Oh, we got yonder. I just want the bag. I just want the bag. That's what's funny. Put the bag.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Put the bag. Put the bag. That's it. That's the bag. I want the bag. I still want the bag. I'm going to give you a bag, but where is the shirt and the hat right here? I got it all over there. Don't get robbed the bag. I'm going to give you a bag, but where's the shirt and the hat I gave you?
Starting point is 00:30:07 I got it all over there. Don't get robbed. You already got robbed. We got an arrow gobble. We got an arrow gobble. We got an arrow gobble. Arrow gobble. Arrow gobble.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Okay, guys, so look. We're going to go around the room. We want to ask everybody, this is New Year's. What are people grateful for? What happened this year? Did you like this year? What happened this year? Did you like this year? You hate this year? You want to jerk this year off? You want to make love to this year?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Start with you, EFN. Start with Bunch Rock. Go that way. I'm grateful for my family. Your daughter's a superstar. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Shout out to my daughter, man. Talking to the mic, bud. Talking to the mic. You're one of Thank you, thank you. Shout out to my daughter, Maeve. Talking to the mic, bud.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Talking to the mic. She's a senior. Yeah, you're one of the best dads, man. Thank you, I appreciate it. So are you. Yeah, thank you. Everybody, I take pride in being a father. And my daughter's a senior in college.
Starting point is 00:30:55 You're mad annoying, though. That means I'm pretty old. I could tell you like a groupie already. She's like, yeah. I just the number one supporter. I ain't gonna lie, she looks like, Dad, please, you could miss a couple games. Yeah. Honestly, I did miss a game.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I missed a game because the flight was delayed, and I seen the game on TV at the bar in the airport, and I seen her looking for me in the stands. You think you embarrass your daughter? No, never. I don't make no scenes. Well, they're gangsta duo, though. I never make no scenes with her.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Nah, but I'm just saying, you know. I don't scream. I'm not that type if she's having a bad game. My son is not, I'm not cool with my son. Noah? No, I'm not gonna have you know, I don't scream. I'm not I'm not that type if she's having my son is not I'm not cool My son Noah Like like My kid invites me to roll but I don't know maybe she invites me to pay for it. Oh, I do I think my son and my daughter is going to try to get drunk with me tomorrow. My daughter is 20 now and my son is 18.
Starting point is 00:31:51 She's in college so she drinks. But I'm not getting high with her. Nah, she's in college so she drinks without me. So what's the drinking age? 18? 21. 21? She's 21? Damn, I'm an old dude. Damn, she's 21? I mama old dude we all are 21 I'm old beat oh that makes you that makes you prehistoric
Starting point is 00:32:17 so this is your cold line I assume that's when the year you was born That's your industry age right That's your industry age No no no I don't like that I don't like that You the only nigga sitting here Looking like Benjamin Franklin I ain't gonna lie
Starting point is 00:32:40 I punked with 49 for 4 years I wanna turn 49 That's the real shit 49 for four years. I want to turn 49. That's the real shit. Niggas don't make it to 49. That's real. The thing about age is that you got to embrace it. If you don't want to embrace it, you're going to lose it. Some niggas don't want to get old.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Nigga, I want to get old. What the fuck? You want to be new you or rich old me. Rich old me. You know what I'm saying? You hit it on the nail, bro. Like, what the fuck? Well, like you said, you was grateful for your family.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I was grateful for Drake Champ's transition. Us, actually, you know, we kind of kicked a revolt ass this year. A lot of people don't know. What I mean by that is, we actually delivered 50 episodes. 49? 30-something? We finished our 50 episodes. 50 episodes. For people that don't know,
Starting point is 00:33:33 I kill myself every night we do this shit. When we do this shit, I don't fake not drink. I don't fake not smoke. We've never faked drinking. This is my first time not drinking. But you don't have no Bacardi, so you're faking.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I'm about to start right now. I'm drinking up, trust me. Yeahaking it. I'm about to start. I'm about to start right now. Not drinking enough, trust me. Yeah, man, so I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for Drink Champ's expansion because we're expanding. We've got a couple of new deals coming out. We've got a couple of ventures. And I like the fact that we're being ourselves and we're controlling shit the way we want to control it. Like, we're not here drinking pink Cisco and, and you know I'm saying and and painting my fingernails
Starting point is 00:34:09 you know I'm saying we're being exactly who we are the offend is not gonna die his beard he's gonna stick to it it's gonna be who he is he's gonna he's gonna stick to his final unless just remain comes with that dollar check okay Let's talk about that finger now. I know you care for him. Yo, leave that finger alone. Yo, leave that finger alone. Yo, leave that finger alone. You ain't even talking about the finger. But you gotta tell me what's going on with that finger. I gotta defend him.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Leave his finger alone, man. He's number one. But listen, go ahead. Finish what you great for about it. Nah, that's pretty much it. I'm happy for the fact that, you know, we're doing what we want, and it's working. EFN got his Coming Home series that he's going to expand on.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I got a couple of, you know, things that I want to do. I want to, and we're just leaning towards it, you know what I'm saying? So I want to have positive opinions, positive minds, and just, you know, us continue to do, is there any DJs back there? The DJs want to come back? No, they can come back and sing. Yeah, man, we want to talk about the history of Chicago, man. Yeah, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And we got to learn, find out what time is somebody getting shot. You can't go to Chicago. Nah, nah, nah, we're not going to do that. Nah, nah, nah. Come on, man. Nah, nah, nah, we're not going to do that, because we have to put more parts into it. We got to go to. We got to go to. We. No, no, no. Come on. No, no, no. We're not going to do that because we have to put more positivity.
Starting point is 00:35:45 We got to go to the CIS. No, no. We got to put more positivity. We got to put more positivity. All right. Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. You still want to smell a gun barrel
Starting point is 00:35:54 like some guy. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. I'm just fucking with you. I know, I know. I'm just kidding. But for me, I'm grateful for my family.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I'm grateful that my daughter, you know, this is her first year in college. And she goes to college for theater. She goes to Rutgers University for a ride. Nice. Mad smarter than you. Let's make some noise for that. Mad smarter than me. That's what we want.
Starting point is 00:36:17 You know what I'm saying? You know I used to cheat on Paul's homework in jail. I used to cheat off his homework. That nigga's mad smart. I got him through college. I might have got a GED in that platform. Definitely went too far. I might have.
Starting point is 00:36:29 You went too far, but I used to cheat on you. The thing that was telling me, he might have. He used to have the homework, like, in jail. I was like, yo, you did your homework? You know we're not home, right? That was a good one. He killed that. He killed that.
Starting point is 00:36:42 He killed that. He killed that. Now, but, you know, on another note, on the same note, but my daughter, like, the thing is, my daughter is in theater, and she's been having scouts come and scout her, and she just got her first paid performance at a real play outside of school. She got a job. She's doing good. My youngest daughter, she's in high school. She made the cheerleading squad. So me, I'm grateful for everything that I
Starting point is 00:37:14 couldn't be as a kid for my kids to be. You feel what I'm saying? I couldn't be the best basketball player. I couldn't be the cheerleader. I couldn't do a lot. I went to jail at 15. My kids is doing what I want them to do. So, and then another thing I'm grateful for is that I get to see all the people around me that's involved in my life doing something positive. Like, I haven't had nobody get shot this year. God bless. I lost a few people, but it wasn't because of violence. Queensbridge were calming down, too.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Queensbridge had been shooting for a whole year. They got that block, the thing they put on the block? It hit a gunshot. No, you're talking about the light. The light thing? No, no, no. That been there, right? That been there, but they got the thing that when you shoot,
Starting point is 00:38:00 the police don't got to go through your project speed and looking for the gunshots. It tells them for the gunshots And tell them where all the gunshots come The police coming right to your back to that so It's coming right they coming right the 41st record they got the speakers The gunshot drums So now You can't just buzz off From the hood
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'm glad I'm out there I'm square like a bear That's the thing We gotta be grateful For the things that's That's positive in our life Because so much negative Shit that happens
Starting point is 00:38:43 In people's life And with social media We tend to happens in people life and with social media We tend to pick on shit like that. Well social media. Um, it's terrible. It's terrible um, you can actually you can actually you know, like You can even get like, you know how they say Vegas is like city Yeah, you could get you get every every bit of negativity that you want you can just turn over so me personally i wake up certain days i don't go on social media for two three hours i don't use my phone i just want to just sit back because i don't want to let it rule run my life you know
Starting point is 00:39:14 what i'm saying like like like for instance like um like if you like the kanye thing uh kanye and drake yeah if you went on twitter that day you had to indulge with kanye and drake you had to you had to that pulled you into it indulge with Kanye and Drake You had to It pulled you into it I don't want to be like that You can't wake up and think positive When you open social media Because the moment you try to think positive
Starting point is 00:39:35 There's going to be some negative shit That punch you right in the fucking face And you may not look like it dictates your day But your whole mind Framed It dictates your day, but your whole mind frame, that's what social media, it dictates your day not knowingly. Like if I'm looking at, yeah, subconsciously it dictates your day. So me with saying that is that I'm grateful that Drink Champs is winning.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I got my clothing line. All my brothers is winning. We got the cooking show. We got food shows. We got shit that we thought that we couldn't do 20 years after dropping the war report. We would never think that we would be sitting here, sitting here, talking shit, drinking. This Bel-Air tastes like 1738 right now. Come on, salute.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Salute. Salute. This is like a real drink. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. This shit tastes like Jesus! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! Salute! What did you say, sonny? Give him the seat for the DJs. Yeah, give him the seat for the DJs. Come on. Say your name. Introduce where you're from for the people.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I'm the Twilight Tone. I'm from Go-El. Chicago. I'm the Twilight Tone from Go-El. Chicago. Okay, let's make some noise for that. What's your relation to Tim Buck too And everything Tim If I'm
Starting point is 00:41:09 Obi-Wan Kenobi Tim is Luke Skywalker I like the way you put that I wasn't a star I was a fan How did Tim How did Tim pass away How did he pass away Tim transitioned
Starting point is 00:41:23 Due to Renonal cancer. Oh, wow. God bless. Because this whole event is a cancer event, right? It's for awareness. Well, it's health awareness. Okay. Cancer is the cause of why Tim wanted people to be,
Starting point is 00:41:46 especially so-called men of color, aware of their health. We don't go to the doctor. We don't see therapists. We don't... That's not hard. That's not cool. No one asked you to pop that, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Continue. Sorry, go on. So the event is to bring about awareness uh for health right yeah this is not do your own thing show okay it's the same drink camps all right yes the fuck sorry man very professional people it's all good i'm gonna kick him in his fucking i don't know where fucking foul friend so sorry man gotta stay. It's all good. Gotta stay focused, man. Come on. I'm focused.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Definitely not focused. So Chi-Town, so how was the meaning of Chi-Town? What is Chi-Town? If somebody never came to Chi-Town before, what would you say to them? Well, you guys call Queensbridge Kuwait
Starting point is 00:42:41 and left rack Iraq. My people, we don't call Chicago Chi-town. They call it Iraq. No. What do y'all call it? We call it Go-il. Go-il? Chicago, Illinois.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Okay. Go-il. Go-il. Go-il. Go-il. Let's make some noise for us getting schooled. Go-il. Go-il.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Go-il. Chicago, Illinois. Yes. So understand that there is, yes. Let's make some noise for us getting schooled. Hell yeah. I'm proud of you. So understand that there is a Mason-Dixon line that says you got 5%, you got 10%, you got 85%. There's nothing shy about Chicago. This is where gang banging came from. And Chicago's made of many towns So it's not a fucking town It's a city
Starting point is 00:43:28 What happened with Spike Lee's movie? Some bullshit I never got to see it Can you put me on it? I don't know I just know that people from here Didn't like it Well because when the builders fell in New York
Starting point is 00:43:43 The Twin Towers Nobody was making a fucking musical satire of all those people that lost their lives. So why the fuck you going to do that to our city? Wow. And we love Spike Lee. All right. But that was a blatant disrespect. Wow. You make a fucking Mary Poppins musical about people dying in the streets.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It's a real tragedy. Because it was like saying you give a pussy for violence. No, yeah, I think they said the girls was going on strike. The girls was going on strike, yeah, it was like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:12 It's more... I think he means in general. In general, the whole premise of the film to make a musical over... The shit that happened in Chicago is beyond gentrification. You basically took one project Knocked it down
Starting point is 00:44:29 Left rack And then you knocked down Queensbridge And then you sent all the niggas out To fucking East New York And wonder why people killing each other You got a lot of New York history Yeah, yeah, he know his shit You got family in New York?
Starting point is 00:44:44 I've been going to New York since 89. Okay. Salute. Salute. I respect that. I used to run with these kids, the Mob Tops in Brooklyn. Oh, wow. You might have to school us to the Mob Tops.
Starting point is 00:44:56 The Mob Tops are some dances from Canarsie. Oh, wow. I got my license in Canarsie. So I've been Doing this I was at I went to the New Music Seminar
Starting point is 00:45:10 In 89 With my first group Wow The second year In 90 I went with my Second act Which was Common
Starting point is 00:45:16 Common Sense back then Common Sense back then And I got him signed So This is a long legacy and long history. And we take this shit very seriously. As you should. And there's very few of us
Starting point is 00:45:32 that exist that we're not fanboys. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. And, um, we just here, and I'm here to represent those people. Goddamn it. Let's go, y'all. Anybody else want to say something?
Starting point is 00:45:46 Anybody? Come on. Don't be shy. Nigga, this is nigga shit. It is your child, guys. They good. We're here for y'all. They good.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, but keep elaborating. Keep elaborating. It's not as different, I can tell. I mean, yeah, and break down the history of Chicago's hip hop scene, just going back to ... What was the scene when y'all started with doing Common Sense? Common Sense. Common Sense. Common Sense.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Common Sense. Common Sense. Common Sense. Common Sense. Common Sense. Common Sense. Common Sense. Keep elaborating. What do you want? It's not a zip and a knock-off. I mean, yeah, break down the history of Chicago's hip-hop scene, just going back to... Like, what was the scene when y'all started with doing Common Sense? No Idea, obviously, was involved as well. Yeah, that was my production partner. So what was the scene like back then around? There was no scene.
Starting point is 00:46:17 We created it from nothing. I believe that. Kusher Carflick, too, that's before that. Kusher Carflick was way, way before. Twista was around, though. Twista was around, but again, it's different. Different sceneist and Conflict was way later. Twista was around though. Twista was around but again it's different. Different scene.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Like different scenes were the same. When they came with that innovative style that was later. That was mid 90's. Yeah that was definitely later.
Starting point is 00:46:34 When we first came out as I was explaining to the brothers Chicago was Chicago was a very independent city and we created this thing called
Starting point is 00:46:41 some people call it house music. Just like y'all in New York Y'all didn't really say hip hop I'm down with this dude These dudes the beat nuts And I had a conversation with my man Juju And he was like back in the day
Starting point is 00:46:53 We never said hip hop Shout out to Juju Y'all were label mates at Relativity Yeah Relativity Juju said we would say You rock, yeah I rock You rock, yeah I rock And that was it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It was some people outside of the shit calling this shit hip-hop. Just like people outside of the shit saying house. Now, the reason I'm bringing this point up is, in Chicago in the 80s, the mid-80s to the late 80s, we didn't fuck with nothing but Chicago. We only listened to dance music. As a whole, we didn't fuck with rap music. That's why, for the longest time, Chicago never got shout-outs on rap records until the mid-'90s. So when we were coming up,
Starting point is 00:47:30 when I moved back to Chicago, because I grew up here in southeast Louisiana, when I came back, Cash wanted to hear, we wanted a little change. We wanted to hear more breaks. And then there was evolution happening in music, whether it was hip-hop music whether it was hip hop or whether it was dance
Starting point is 00:47:48 music and this was the signs and the symbols of that you had Delight you had Jungle Brothers and De La Soul you had Brand New Heavies and you had Soul to Soul those records helped to bridge Chicago
Starting point is 00:48:04 that helped bridge a lot of people not not even just Chicago, but club kids in New York. Queen Latifah was doing it too. Latifah, and so it helped to bridge the gap. And I was DJing at the time, and that helped me bridge a lot of house or disco cats over to hip-hop. Jungle Brothers. Jungle Brothers, I house you. Jungle Brothers as a whole, they house you out. That made the whole New York scene get on house you to a different level. Yeah, it just made it more free. When I was coming to New York in the late 80s, New York was wilder than a motherfucker. And I don't mean just getting stuck up. I mean like just style. I saw niggas make hats out of sun kiss cans. It was crazy. She was innovative in New York at that time. New York was innovative, and that's one of the things I applaud about New York. Y'all had your own thing.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You had your own gangs. You had your own style. And when you came there, you had to be on point. When we came there from Chicago, that first year when I came with my group, man, we had to be extra, extra on point. Like, we was black people and y'all was white people. We had to be extra, extra on point. Like we was black people and y'all was white people. We had to be extra dope. When I came with Rasheed, we had to be extra dope. So the scene in Chicago, as I know I appear young, I was
Starting point is 00:49:20 like the first to bring hip-hop to the mainstream here in the city. To the club scene. To parties where girls was actually at. Yeah. Because before me, the hip hop parties would be looking just like this. Sausage party. Sausage. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:33 It wasn't hip hop, it was sausage. You know Pink Polo Kanye? Huh? You know Pink Polo Kanye? Stop playing. With all due respect, Kanye is my little brother. Wow. He's my little brother. Wow. He's my little brother.
Starting point is 00:49:46 He's, if I'm a senior in high school, he's in grammar school. And I'm saying that with all due respect. So Kanye looked up to us. You see the difference of individuals? Like, meaning, you know, people change. It's just the evolution of time. Do you see it changed for better? In Kanye?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah, Kanye. I'm going to put it to you like this. I'm going to step outside of Kanye and I'm going to present it to you like this, Norm. If you don't have wise advisors around you, and your wisest advisor is your mom, and you lose her over whatever. Deep. Deep. Like, you as a wild dude, I know your history. Deep.
Starting point is 00:50:24 You're going to get wild. Right. Deep. Like, you was a wild dude. I know your history. Deep. You're going to get wild. Right. Right. And somebody say some shit, you're going to run on the stage and say, I think Beyonce should win this. And you're going to, you know. Right. And you got money. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.
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Starting point is 00:54:51 this is me outside looking in just because I'm in the industry doesn't mean nothing. I think that he doesn't know how big he is. Pause. I think that... Pause. Pause. I think that he doesn't...
Starting point is 00:55:01 I think he does things and it's so much of a minute thing, but he's so much about a bigger level that the minutest shit he does things and it's so much of a minute thing, but he's so much about a bigger level that the minutest shit he does, it comes off as the biggest shit. But I don't think that he... I don't think he knows... I don't think he knows his power.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And you know what? As your partner... That makes him a little bit more dangerous. As your partner... You know what I'm saying? Because you got to know your power. As your partner, I'm going to say this
Starting point is 00:55:22 because we partners, and sometimes we think alike, but sometimes we think different. I'm going to think a little different on this. I think he knows exactly how big he is, but he puts it out there just to test the waters. Sometimes people do that. They know. Let me try this.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Let me put a shoestring out there and put some green stripes on it and see if they bite on that. I think that's what he do. He puts it out there just for people to get a reaction because Kanye is not a... He's a reactional person. You
Starting point is 00:55:59 have to make Kanye react off of something to get his attention. And everything, people, Kanye, you don't hear Kanye come out to somebody attacking him. So he feels like his back is against the corner. And then he reacts. He's never the first one to act. So I think he throws shit and see if the people do something. And then when they act on it, then he reacts a certain way to the energy he put out to the atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Let him respond to that. Well, I can't speak on how Kanye comes up with the shit that he comes up with. I've worked with Kanye. I've produced for Kanye. I think like most people that have been
Starting point is 00:56:43 overlooked and not given a shot, even when he was producing for Rockefeller, they didn't take him seriously. He was a micro to the macro. People don't take us seriously. Now we run this shit. We run it. And the lesson in that is like, man, be careful how you treat people like, man, be careful how you treat people. New York, be careful how you treat people.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Like I said, I've been going to New York since the late 80s. Be careful. Because now the South ain't never letting that shit go. But we learned that lesson with that, too. Nah, I think we're drifting off. Yeah, let's get on the point. Yeah, yeah. I think sometimes it's hard for me to say things like this,
Starting point is 00:57:29 you know, being a black man. I think that as a black man, he has to take responsibility. Like, you just have to. Of course. You just have to, you know, for the Trump thing, I just, I want to be careful.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I despise that moment. I really was upset. I really was upset because it wasn't that he said he liked Trump. It was how he said he liked Trump. Now me, I'm an energy person. If I walk into a room, I know your energy. And Trump, when he gave him his five, that wasn't a five like, you my man. It was like, get
Starting point is 00:58:08 away. And I just despise that moment. It was a five like, you know I'm using you right now. And then here's the crazy, no, no, no, no, no. It wasn't like he was using him. Because it was like, yeah, you're right. It was. He said it blatantly. I used Kanye. He said it and I don't know why. And that's the reason why
Starting point is 00:58:23 this is important because I know I can talk to Kanye way better. I know I can say to him, come on brother, you don't like Trump. You're just being a troll. No, there's nothing that you can like Trump other than one thing. He did sign the act that we could all get published in from 1970. That's the one good thing he signed. And right now he's going to criminal justice. But you gotta understand, that is not Trump. And Trump has administration, he has a nigga
Starting point is 00:58:57 just like you, you and you. It's just like when Andre 3000 wore the confederate flag. Andre 3000 wore the Confederate flag. Andre 3000 wore it, but then he explained it. He took responsibility for it. And that's all we kind of want. We just kind of want him to just, you know what I'm saying? But see, Kanye, you gotta also understand. But coming back here was good.
Starting point is 00:59:18 But look, hold on one second. Excuse me, excuse me, y'all. As an outsider looking in. Excuse me. It's the finger? No. It's the finger? No. What's going on here? It doesn't look good, by the way.
Starting point is 00:59:30 He's blushing. He's blushing. You're not laughing at me, Queen. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. You were just over here. Listen, now listen. The thing about it is, when you reach a certain level in business, you're going to respect another businessman.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I don't know what you're talking about. Like right now, right? With drink chains, with anything CNN do in business, we're going to respect business. We're going to respect another business entity coming to us. You lost me, Paul. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Listen, what I'm trying to tell you is with Kanye is that it's not about him being Trump, pro-Trump. Kanye respects business. That's like narcissistic.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I think he's a troll. No. I think that's what he is. He actually said it. He said, I'm a bigger troll than Tekashi69 and 50 Cent.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I don't know if I can agree with you on that one. He said it. He said it. He said it. Listen, listen, listen. He said it out of his own mouth. He said it out of his own mouth. He said it. He said it. Listen, listen, listen. He said it out of his own mouth.
Starting point is 01:00:27 He said it out of his own mouth. He said it out of his own mouth. I don't know that he believes it. Because it's business. The thing about it is this. Hear me out. Hear me out. A billionaire is going to talk to billionaires.
Starting point is 01:00:37 A billionaire is going to... If you're used to getting attention, you have to get that attention no matter what. Because that's your drug. Right. That is your actual drug. You have to get that. Fame is the worst drug ever. By the way,
Starting point is 01:00:47 I'll kid you not, I've seen people come in, humble people, and get a fucking bit of starstruck, and then they start in autographs, and they motherfucking, you know what I'm saying, tucking their chain,
Starting point is 01:00:58 and they show us a little thing. You know what I'm saying? A millionaire is going to watch a billionaire's move to try to get to his level, is what I'm trying to say. No, I understand. That's why, is what I'm trying to say. That's why Kanye, what I'm trying to say is, he's watching his whole moniker right now. He's trying to be the richest nigga.
Starting point is 01:01:13 He's about business. I think the fact that he plants calabasas, I think that's ill. The plant that he has in Calabasas, I can't reach it, brother. I'm sorry. What, the easy plant? I'm sorry. I'm gonna be sorry. No, he has a whole thing in Calabasas. I mean, what you want me to do? You want me to work or you want me to fuck his man out of waters, man? Come on, you fucker!
Starting point is 01:01:38 You fucker! Okay, give everybody a water, son! Jesus! No, but the thing is Millionaires Follow billionaires Thousandaires Follow millionaires That's the laws of the land
Starting point is 01:01:52 If I'm gonna watch A motherfucker get money I appreciate you It's just like If you go on the street And you're a dime selling nigga You're gonna watch The nigga selling bricks
Starting point is 01:02:00 That's the ways of the land Well I can't let Capone get away with this It is It is It is bricks that's the ways of the land you're not gonna tell me it's not cuz when you was in the street and you were selling dubs who's you watching a billionaire and a multimillionaire. It's business. You're not looking at it. When you look at a person whose main purpose is out for business, his goal is to build a plant, to bring these factories back to America, to bring factories into Chicago, is what? Business.
Starting point is 01:02:44 So his business objective is, let me look at Trump. Trump made a billion dollars off these hotels. Did he? Bankruptcy, all that, bad business. Listen to what I'm trying to say. You wouldn't want to emulate a good businessman?
Starting point is 01:02:59 Listen to what I'm trying to say. We don't know this. He may know something we don't know. But him emulating. Who, Kanye? Yes. About Trump? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Oh, come on, man. Can you call Trump right now? Can you? No. Can Kanye? I call Hope. Yes. I call Laszlo.
Starting point is 01:03:19 That's the difference. I don't buy it, man. I mean, I understand what you're saying. It's business. I just think there's so many more businessmen you can look up to than you're looking for a businessman. If I'm a hundred billion man, if I'm a hundred billion man, I'm going to follow you. More self-made, real self-made businessmen. It ain't too many.
Starting point is 01:03:38 But there's more out there than this one. But not with the politics to grab. I think Hov is a good example. I think Hov is a good example. No, but you can't use Hov as an example because that's your competition. Yeah, but that shouldn't be. Your brother should not be in the competition. I know.
Starting point is 01:03:48 They shouldn't be. That's the problem. That's the problem. Your brother shouldn't be. Listen, I'm going to tell you something. Hold on. Let me cut you off for one second. What does it is?
Starting point is 01:03:55 I went to Jay-Z's concert in Miami, Florida when Jay-Z and Beyonce was there. And I looked at Biggs. Biggs looked at Jay-Z and he was the happiest I've ever seen an individual can be for another individual. That's more what we got to spread. That man looked at Jay-Z on stage and said, I don't get a dollar of this shit. But this is something I created. I started. And he stood there, and he was so happy watching his homeboy on stage.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I walked up to Biggs. I said, I need better friends. And you just reiterated everything I said. You know what I'm saying? Like, that man stood there and watched his homeboy that he came up with, you know. Transform. And he supported it. He don't make a dollar off of that.
Starting point is 01:04:40 We got to start supporting. Like, if you win, I win. I don't have to go up there accepted the speech When you accept the speech if you went out with her and I think that's what we're gonna do The problem is we're always in competition with each other. We always want to we always want to outdo the I don't give a fuck man. If you could drink more better than me drink more motherfucker Right, fuck it. I'm gonna drink what i drink and that's that but um i think i think kanye um i think that he lives in competition me personally i live for competition i wake up in the morning and i want to beat my son to the fucking bathroom before him
Starting point is 01:05:15 because i want to piss on the toilet and let him learn you see when you put your ass down there that's pissed that's real you got to wake up in the morning, you got to teach your kids. You got to do that. I'm about it. I'm about that shit. Yeah, for real. For real, I don't want him to, you know, you wake up in the morning,
Starting point is 01:05:31 you got to look. You know, it's shit to shit. When I know, when I come to the crib, I'm beating all y'all niggas. I don't let you use my bathroom, sir. You'll never be by my bathroom, sir. I got a personal go.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You got to relax. I'm definitely not going to relax. I don't want to use it. There's things in there I don't want to see. Yeah, but I think I think that that's what more we gotta spread I think Kanye messing with big you you know who big you is big you is that that's South Central that's crazy oh that's not that he even like like you know he's home this is why Kanye is very smart. Because one day, Snoop was dissing him, and then he went to Snoop's big homie. You said he wore the shirt, though. But he went to Snoop's big homie. You said he wore the shirt, though.
Starting point is 01:06:10 But did you see what Snoop dissed him? The first thing he did the next day was put the shirt on and said, it's all up. I don't think he knows how powerful he is. And said, it's all up. I'm trying to tell you. I don't think he knows how powerful he is. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. Maybe, but it's a good chance that he does it. It's a good chance. I'm just saying. It I don't think he knows How bad we is I think he knows Exactly what he knows Maybe But it's a good chance
Starting point is 01:06:25 That he does it It's a good chance I'm just saying It's a good chance That we Listen It's times that People come up to me
Starting point is 01:06:31 And be like Yo when you say something I be like Cause I don't listen To this podcast Like other people Listen to this podcast They listen to this
Starting point is 01:06:38 Every day I live this So when a person Comes up to me And says Brother man When you did this I be looking at them
Starting point is 01:06:44 Like nigga I don't remember I remember 155 fucking episodes you know I'm sad but that was a good talk about Kanye not back to you brother and Kanye and Trump I don't know how to make that because that's That was at 1738. I don't like it. I just think he wanted to talk to somebody who was empowered to maybe make some change. I think he got to go back to his brother.
Starting point is 01:07:13 I think to tell you the truth, you know who would give you the best advice? A person who don't want to give you advice. They will always give you the best advice because I'm going to be honest with you, he needs that Brooklyn talk. He needs that Brooklyn and Chi town talk like, you know, sometimes you just gotta tell your friends Shut the fuck up Simple like that and vice versa like yo listen because you can tell you can tell and this is real shit from Drake's tweets
Starting point is 01:07:41 The tweets that he tweeted about Drake you can tell he's a young man still. There's a part of him that didn't grow up. Yeah, there's a part of him. Because my dude, me and you have problems. I will never write three pages about you.
Starting point is 01:07:51 No, but even with the shit he talk about, if something happened to me, you know that Drake, that was the wackest shit ever. Do you know, I was in one of the shows where he was like,
Starting point is 01:08:01 yo Jay-Z, don't send your killers after me. I was at that show. I was like, no, Connie, we don't send shit like that. I seen that shit. That was crazy, we don't do shit like that. That's why we draw the line. But let me just tell you something. He has transcended. He's going to be what do we call, don't nobody kill me, but he's going to be
Starting point is 01:08:23 what we call not black in a minute. He gonna be in a whole nother race no no i'm not gonna lie he's gonna that's the card yeah that's gonna do that to him that's all that's the card that no yeah no no no no no no not all of it because he has control he has no control and you know And you know what? I realize that that's where Kanye wants to be. Like, sometimes you gotta respect where a nigga wanna be. When you go at a nigga family, and you go at his shit,
Starting point is 01:08:58 and the nigga don't tell you, don't go at my family, and the nigga automatically go at you like, fuck you nigga, I'll fuck you up, I'll shoot you, I'll kill you. That's different. But when the nigga say, don't go against my family and then it automatically go out you like fuck you nigga fuck you about shoot I kill you that's different but when the niggas say don't go against my family and all that and you a Kardashian that's different my nigga Very educational. You know, listen. Listen, you can play with all you want. I know what you're saying. Every nigga I got with the Kardashian, what happened? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I mean, it's the curse. That's like getting with the Sarudis. What happened? The nigga said this to you. I told you. I gotta go back and... It's like, go get with one man. If you get it one name Something's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:09:45 Something's gonna happen I love one name Show off the booty move But But When you get with the Kardashian My nigga It's never been a nigga right
Starting point is 01:09:55 And it's nothing I don't even know the Kardashians I have no nothing It will But it's never been a black man That came on top Out of fucking with a car dash not yet not yet yeah yeah yeah it might be Travis Scott he's a
Starting point is 01:10:11 generous she's a Jenna but she's still a Kardashian now that made sense Paul thank you but you gotta look you? But you gotta, sometimes you gotta go around and trap once and then come back around. You know what I mean? But it's real.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I think, honestly, I think a hip-hop union is very necessary. I think that... You talked about this a lot. I think, yeah, no. You talked about it a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I think, but let me just tell you something. I think that we should hold each other accountable. Meaning, like, if we out there, like, it should be like, I'm sorry to like if we out there like it should be like I'm sorry to say like this, but it should be some type of gang shit like that gang per se what destruction Yeah, meaning meaning listen if you won't be in hip-hop
Starting point is 01:10:54 That's right, and you want to feed your family over this you should have some morals Yeah, and you should have a guideline of something that you live by otherwise you shouldn't get no money over this shit Yeah, you know I really feel like they said the smartest is you don't change the by. Otherwise, you shouldn't get no money off of this shit. You know what I'm saying? I really feel like that. Let me tell you something the smartest shit you said. Don't change the subject, man. No, this is real. This is real.
Starting point is 01:11:10 This is real. Don't talk about pineapples and orange juice. This is like, this is when Chris Lighty was alive. God bless him. Like, we was talking
Starting point is 01:11:18 about this shit, the hip-hop, you remember, we was talking about with Leo, I mean, with Kevin Liles. No, I think we should make it. No, no, no, but listen, no, no, I'm not saying them. David And they be like, yo. We should make it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:11:25 But listen, no, no. I'm not saying them. David Banner. This is the talk we had. And it's like, yo, why? If you make $20 million and this nigga make $20,000 and we in the same game, take $1,000. If everybody that's getting money and put it towards the people
Starting point is 01:11:41 that don't make the same money and give them benefits. No, I know what you're saying. Let me say it because people don't understand that rappers don't have health insurance. Let me say it for you better. Listen, let me say it for you better. If me and you both come to the game together, we got 10 years together, I may be a little bit more successful, right? But that doesn't mean your health care should be less than mine. That's what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Fact. You're trying to say we both got that. We should both have health care. Not even less than yours. That's what you're trying to say In fact, you're trying to say but we both got that that's We should both have healthcare Yeah, if we both in the same between years Not even less than yours I should not not have Right, right, yeah Healthcare if I'm in the same game you in
Starting point is 01:12:12 If you're a motherfucking doctor You should be able to have healthcare Like 10 bucks you like like like like like this is a prime example To me to me if you if you put in time in hip-hop like if Rakim gets sick right now He should have no worries bro He should have, Rakim shouldn't have no worries, bro. He shouldn't have no worries. For benefits. It should be, you know, everybody from Hov to Nas, everyone is going to the nobody.
Starting point is 01:12:34 To the nobody. As much as the labels take. The blueprint is SAG. I keep saying it and people don't understand it. SAG for actors, that is the blueprint that could be copied. Because SAG, they give, so you, the thing with SAG, you say 20 the blueprint That could be copied Because SAG They give Soon you The thing with SAG You say 20 words
Starting point is 01:12:48 In the movie You get after No this is real My nigga You say 20 words In the movie You get after Automatically
Starting point is 01:12:57 And the motherfuckers That don't know If you down with SAG And you ain't got after You better go sign up For that shit You get after Immediately That means If you put out an album down with SAG and you ain't got AFTRA, you better go sign up for that shit. You get AFTRA immediately.
Starting point is 01:13:06 That means if you put out an album under BMI, ASCAP, any of that shit, where they take your publishing, you should get fucking health shit. You should get health care. What is BMI, ASCAP, and what is it for? It's just somebody
Starting point is 01:13:21 who goes get your money for it. It's the middleman. You gotta have one or the other. It's the middleman. It's the middleman. You got to have one of those. You feel what I'm saying? It's the middleman because the thing about it is you can't track down all your spins. You can't literally be in Russia, Switzerland all at the same time. So what they do is they hire a company and they track down your spins. They track down your publishing.
Starting point is 01:13:40 So let's suppose because you get paid for everything every time your shit get played. Yes. A lot of people don't know that. I think he knows you should get played yes he knows that I think we need it question you know another thing is taking accountability well right now sorry cut you off right now they got the new thing which is the digital exchange no sound no no no royalty network was doing this shit fucking 10 years ago. Yeah. Royalty Network was doing that shit. Nas was the first nigga that signed Nas and DMX. Remember, DMX cut his whole fucking, his whole publishing deal off and signed the Royalty Network.
Starting point is 01:14:17 He's like, well, I'm giving you 40% of my money. These niggas can take 10% and collect the same money. Yeah. Yeah. They got a couple companies on there. Same shit. Yeah. Now it's the direct. Now it's direct.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It's direct. Yeah. Now actually, they're I actually actually come to you geese 600,000 Yeah, like 700,000 say but I want to collect your royalties for the next two or three years Publishing was dope back then How to do it if you know how to do it, if you knew how to do it. We would have never signed them, though. It's all a racket. Like, the thing about publishing deals, we would have never signed them because everybody who got jerked back in the days in the game, what they got jerked over? They publish it. I made a lot of money off publishing, man. Let me just make some notes for that, man. We all did.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I mean, I say we all. We both did. But the thing about it is I wouldn't have signed a publishing deal if I knew the things that I knew now on how to collect money and shit like that. But publishing, to tell you the truth, also the pluses of publishing is when you ever turn on John Madden
Starting point is 01:15:15 or you ever turn on a video game, you ever turn on a movie and you see your record is there, you don't physically do that. They come to that. They do placements. That's pretty much it. Placement is dope. But if that's what they do. They do placements. That's pretty much it. Placement is dope.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But if you want, you can do your own placements. If you got good enough connections. What the hell is going on out there? I don't know. It always feels ill when you shush another grown ass man. No, no, no. We tell niggas to relax. But man, yo man, this is Drink Champs, man.
Starting point is 01:15:46 We're backstage at the Timbuk2 concert. It's a surprise performance. Every time I've seen Timbuk2, every time I've seen him, he always brought up the War Report. He would always say how much this album means to him. Yeah, I heard about that. So, me and Capone have been performing together in years, and this is our first
Starting point is 01:16:02 time. And we're coming out, we're going to represent for him. I want to represent for Chi-Town and everybody, the energy in years and it's our first time and we coming out we're gonna represent from I want to represent for Chi town and everybody got the energy out here in the order historic history that that's been going on so we're gonna keep drinking and just have some fun for sure don't like that a hair poem I ain't gonna tell me what the dash it is that come on that's what I do. You do what you do. You smoke cigars, I smoke cigars. I don't smoke cigars. You don't got no real cigars. I'm gonna do what a cigar I do. It's terrible right there.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Alright, let me do what I do. I smoke cigars just like you, but do you got a real cigar? That's Black and Mild, man. Alright, that's what I'ma do. You might as well just walk straight to jail and say, This is not going to jail. I gotta go to jail. That's what I'm doing. That's why people smoke gotta go to jail. That's what I'm doing. That's why people smoke black and mild. That's what I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:16:47 To jail people, man. It's not. You give me a real cigar, I'm in. I don't have a real cigar, so this is what I'm doing. Thank you very much. There you go. Want to take a flip? Let me see. What is that?
Starting point is 01:17:04 I don't know, but it looks good. It looks like a finger as well. What the fuck is this thing? Hold on. What's the difference? What's the difference? I don't know. It just looks like...
Starting point is 01:17:12 I don't know. Nah, but look. That's like you've been hanging out in Philly too, buddy. This is Chicago too. No, I'm talking about that shit. That's that... The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected,
Starting point is 01:17:30 showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. On Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage, you'll hear about these heroes and what their stories tell us about the nature of bravery listen to medal of honor on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast a lot of times big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways four days a week i would buy two cups of banana pudding but the price has gone up so now i only buy one small but important ways from tech
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