Drink Champs - Episode 158 w/ Redman

Episode Date: February 22, 2019

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On this episode the Champs sit down and chop it up with NJ Legend Reggie Noble aka Redman. As the drinks pour and smoke gets lit up they go into classic stories about Biggie, early beginnings, MTV cribs, Branson, How High 2 and alot more. Follow Drink Champs http://www.drinkchamps.com http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and your number one source for drunk facts. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. Drink up, motherfucker. Now, when it comes to legends, when it comes to the word New Jersey, I think when you Google New Jersey, his face picture just comes up. When it comes to the most legendary MTV Cribs of all times, still to this day, people talk about it. When it comes to a person that you say a legend, when we started this show, we said we wanted to pick up legends that got 10 years or more.

Automatic. And his name automatically popped up first. Like, you know, we did the top five. We waited three years to get this man here. We are so happy. We did it. We did it. We are so happy.

We made it. We made it. We are so happy because in our culture, there's so many people that don't pick up our culture. And I'm so proud. I'm so honored to tell you one of my friends, one of the best MCs on the planet Earth. That's big. Hands down. You know what I'm saying?

One of the realest people. One of my favorite people. Not only one of my favorite MCs, but one of my favorite people, period, in life. If you don't know who the fuck I'm talking about, we talking about the one and only Reggie motherfucking so I don't know if you know But when we interview artists We like to get together

And we like to go through Like the artist playlist And you know Go through their whole Your shit pause Is long as fucking hell Like You've been going

Like since the 90s It's 1992 92 The serious catalog Yes And how So how Let's take us Take us through People who Since the 90s? It's 1992. 92? The serious catalog. Yes. Ooh. And how, so how, let's take us through people who didn't have internet.

Take us how that was in the 92. Like, what? What's the album? For us, just promotion, just how we work, just the whole circuit. Yeah, everything. Let's go back. Well, the early 90 era circuit was communication. Straight up. We only had maybe two outlets of music to release our shit through.

And we made our impact through in-stores. When you say two outlets, you're talking about like magazine and radio. Yeah, like magazine, radio, and a couple of outlets as far as video. Can't forget mixtapes. Yeah, mixtapes. That came a little later though, correct? Nah, nah, there was mixtapes in the early 90s. In the early 90s, not too heavy.

It started bubbling in the late 90s a little bit. But in the early era, it was all about the in-stores, baby. And if you don't know what an in-store is, that means we actually... They call them pop-up shops now. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the fuck it is. That's what the fucking pop-up is.

Turn into that. Yeah, listen. That's what the next little pop-up shop was for clothes and bullshit. It's for anything now. You can sell cheeseburgers at a pop-up shop. Fuck that. Yeah, so it's the same thing as a fucking... That's true.

It's in-stores. fucking That's true It's his story Yeah but I thought a pop up shop Is when it's unannounced And you just pop up and put the shop here It's different but it's the same You know why we had to announce it Back then is because we couldn't get information To people as fast

So now I can say you know Redman is here After Black World Order and now we got a pop up shop And that's what I said But it's the same thing as the insta So now I can say, you know, Redman is here after Black World Order. You never got to pop up a shop. That's not such. Everyone would just come. But it's the same thing as the Insta. God damn it. I just see you popping and I still jump. That's just right behind your ear.

Now, we got to bet, too. They said, because they said Red might not drink. So we said, but if Red drinks, because we celebrate. I don't know if you know. We're going to see if Red takes the champagne or if Red take some rock if Red has one drink? We have a bet going. Ooh. No pressure.

You want me to do it? No pressure. You make me fart when you say it. I got no pressure. No, wait for the Tiger Bowl. That's in the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ooh.

I can't decide that right now. Okay. When y'all ready to do that. This is my glass. I don't know where to pour that in there. But yeah, just pour it. Leave it there if he decides

he wants to have some yeah leave them both there yeah we'll decide which one I go for and say oh shit you lost nigga yeah but

quickly though the in store is when we had to actually go to the record store and actually shake people's hands and sell our material

right over the desk and let people know that we out. And that was what we mostly did in the 90s. But that shit was fun as hell because we actually got to go to different cities, see actually the hood

come to this record store and actually see what was going down in that city before we went on stage. That's how me and Nori met because you did an in-store at my store. Pop-up shop, nigga.

Pop-up shop. The pop-up in-store at my store. Pop-up shop, nigga. Pop-up shop. The pop-up in-store. So I'm not going to lie. The other day, I looked at Instagram and a tear came to my eye. That's right. You better have it.

You post that too. I was like, he only posts that. I'm coming to my end. A tear came to my eye. A tear came to my eye because see, a lot of people,

I got so many legendary stories from Branson, but one of my best, favorite legendary stories is I pulled up to Branson one day. But those who don't know, Branson's a weed spot. The most famous weed spot

in New York City right now. And let me just describe it to you. You could be known down the block, but if they don't know you, they're not serving you. Exactly. Like, so, everybody used to want to come from my hood because I had the rapper pass the niggas knew i ain't police

so they're not so one day let me move on to the story one day i just walk in the spot and red man is behind the thing like working the spot You were in the turn. Yes! Yes! Yes! I walk in and I grab a couple of the shit. And I say something like, how much is this? He's like, yo, that's 25 cent. Like, $195. And I'm looking like this is Rat Man behind me. But I don't want to say that. And I did the whole transaction.

And he's like, I'm Rat Man! And he's like, you know what, what's up, man? I'm sitting up. I had never seen that. So by the way, listen Because I really want the people to understand This was an exclusive weed spot So let alone

You couldn't even go in there So in order to get behind it You had to really be in In, in, in with Eddie God bless, rest in peace Eddie Big up to Branson But that was exclusive And you know why I liked it? You know why I loved your post? Peace, Eddie. Big up to Branson. But that was exclusive.

And you know why I liked it? You know why I loved the impulse? Because let me tell you how accurate you were. If you would have said Capone and Noriega, that you would have been wrong. Because Capone used to never go to Branson. You knew. You knew the difference.

Let's just make some noise for his weakness. I want to see Capone up there. I want people to vote for people because we don't even have now we have dispensaries right yeah this ministry's great thing but can you describe to the people back in the 90s because usually can you you able to drink champagne and the police wouldn't fuck with you in

front of Branson this is a legendary but describe it is the same dude depicted by half-baked So I believe so Samson Shit a cuz get me a bad Branson spot. Yes, like you said It was an exclusive spot To be at And Like definitely Me and Biggie

Definitely kicked it out there Plenty of times Like Biggie used to be out there All the times And I used to know When he was out there Cause

If I pulled up And it was like Champagne bottles lined up Oh yeah Yeah he was up there Oh the red What was it The red land cruiser

Yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah So It was a legendary spot That was up there. Oh, the Red Land Cruiser? Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. So it was a legendary spot that I used to wonder how in the fuck he had a spot running that. I'm talking about a dispensary in the early 90s.

Like free. Like everyone knew you go there to get your butt and shit. And when you get robbed, then the police ain't fucking with you. None of that shit None of that's happening But for us It was like A communication spot

For us to get bud For us to talk about On the record as well And shit Because you know Them Cali niggas Had that fire out there Like we

We wasn't hardly Getting that fire Like them Cali niggas So that Branson Was the closest thing We had to Like a fresh Cali bud That we could connect But the triangle back I'm going to go Let's go Let's go that Branson was the closest thing we had to like a fresh Cali bud that we

could connect but the triangle back if you had the triangle bag you was officially listen move on let's go right back to the triangle back but is that correct me if I'm wrong was that the last good but brown weed was it Tostick that was in that shit It went to Tostick Then it went to Then it went to Green Bud too No no I know what I'm saying but

The shit that had us all stuck was that brown Yeah that brown That brown shit had you coming from Jersey I'm coming from Queens Like none of us live close to the spot by the way Like it's At least 45 minutes. Where was it in New York? This was in Harlem.

Okay. But he lived in Jersey. I lived in Queens. Just think about that. So that's like a 45 to 50-minute commute just for weed. And I was staying in Long Island, too, so I used to commute from Long Island. Oh, shit. And you were the brown?

Yeah. For the brown weed. This is the last brown. Now, Redman. Now, first of all, the brown weed, y'all, I mean, you're not going to see it in these days and times. Brown fucking weed

is what Jamaicans usually smoke. And they got that. It's called a chalk. But his brown weed had white seeds and it was sticky. So we used to take

the green and the brown. We used to make what you call a beef and broccoli. Beef and broccoli. Beef and broccoli. And we used to call it the Jack O'Lantern.

The Jack O'Lantern. Yeah, but did that weed have cocaine in it? Let's just be clear. I'm going to be honest. you call a beef and broccoli I'm not a nigga. There was certain days I was waking up. You were smoking in spankings, wasn't you? You know them queens. Hit me out. There was certain days I was waking up, and I was like, I had no weed. And people from my hood was like, yeah, you want weed? I'm like, nah, wait until Eddie open up shop. And I would wait.

You remember they opened at 11? Uh-huh. 11, I still remember. I still remember. And I was like, damn Damn the way I would never Like want anything else I knew there was some type It might be the heroin

I'm not sure But I was so addicted to that weed Okay Wait before you don't This reminded me We had Faith on the show Oh yes And she said y'all dated

You were her first Like official boyfriend What did he say Boyfriend or friend I thought she said boyfriend Yeah Yeah Yeah me and Faith dated early She said you was a drummer In the church Yeah yeah Like official boyfriend. What did he say? Boyfriend or friend? I thought she said boyfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, me and Faith dated early. She said you was a drummer in the church. Yeah, yeah. She sung in the church too. You know what's funny? Um. Give me that. Nah, I ain't gonna.

Faith was the first woman. I never said this to her. Faith was the first woman my mother caught us in the bed with. Oh. Word is mom. She ain't tell us all that. Word is mom. Yeah, yeah. Word of mom. Shades of that. Word of mom. Word of mom. Yo, she was the first woman my mother caught us with.

My mother came in that room. She was like, get your motherfucking asses up out my goddamn room. Yo, but that was my love, though. That was all it is. That was way before anything. And y'all wore light skin, too. So that was like. But then we went up in the game.

Well, she said you took her to Branson. You're the first person to take her there. Oh, of course, of course. That's why you reminded me of that. Of course, of course. But we went up in the game and we always remained friends up in this game

because it's like, Jersey, we got a code. Where you came from, what route you're going in, we always going to. Where you came from, what route you going in, we always going to stick together. Because we always felt we had to fight to get in that New York circle y'all motherfuckers tried to block us out from

so long. So when we come up in the game, we stick together, man. It don't matter from Rod Digger to Tretch. You already know Tretch. From Do It All. Absolutely. We all remain friends still to thisretch. You already know Tretch. From Do It All. Larger than Underground. Absolutely. We all remain friends still to this day. Wow, wow.

So Faith, so you know Faith is doing her thing right now. I saw you with Kate Death the other day too. That's right. That's right. So let me give you

some more applause. Let's get some more applause. What's up, man? So the Muppet Man is, the Muppet Man tour, that's the first time

you ever met, right? Met the man? No. During the Mupp you ever met, right? Met the man? No. During the month of the man tour? Yo, Mep said he met me at a crisscross party and shit. I was high. A crisscross party? A crisscross party.

I didn't hear about a random met from the crisscross party. No, Mep said we met at a crisscross party and shit. But I was high. I don't remember that shit, though, my nigga. I think we did, though. Right. But when we got really connected was on the Month of the Man tour. When we was like, you know what?

And this was Def Jam who put y'all together. Hell yeah. I mean, it was a smart idea too because we was like, we came out with the album at around the same time and we had the same kind of feel. So it was like, fuck it. Why don't we put these two on the road and see what we create? And we was out there smashing shit. Right.

Then they came up with a Red MF song, How Hot. And it just built from there, man. We're going to see if you're going to take a little bit of champagne. Because I got to ask you this question. So I listen to Red Man. Hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. So I'm supposed to take a...

I'm supposed to take a drink, right? Take a sip of leach. Hold on, let me pray about this. Because I ain't taken a drink in a long time, man. It's champagne. It's cool. It's cool. It's champagne. Champagne.

I'll do this for my nigga. All right, that's right. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud.

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Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. And I hear it's Yachty. And I hear it's young boy, DC Young Fly. No disrespect to them.

But a little, it's like, that's not the franchise when I hear how high. I mean, from the horse's mouth. You know what I mean? How did you feel? Because I know UMS was working on a script about it. But how disappointed, dog? How are you feeling about it? Not disappointed.

Okay. Because I'm a kind of dude that, you know, I'm about the youth. I'm about the youngins coming up and, you know, I want young Yachty in D.C. to feed their family like me and Matt fed our family off the How High entity.

It was a good thing that we was able to say we started that shit. But because of business rights and because of, you know, political. And then we're not a part of it. And then we're not your characters? Well, no.

They're going to create their own characters now. They asked us to be in a movie. Like cameo and shit. Not even cameo. To be in a movie as well. But we, as grown men, we want to move on and own our own shit next time. Because we don't own How High. We, as grown men, we want to move on and own our own shit next time. Right. Because we don't own How High.

We came up with the ideas for How High, but they own the characters and everything. Right. So we're going to move on, and we already got a movie that we being written right now. Hopefully we can start shooting it by the end of this year or tip of next year. And we're going to own that bitch, and that's what it's about. God damn it. God damn it. Make some noise. So, yo, yo, big up to it. Make some noise. So, yo.

Yo, big up to DC Young Fly and Yachty, man. Like, yo, I got on the gram and shouted them niggas out, man. Like, you know, y'all niggas stick together, man. Y'all just make that shit funny, man. And carry the ball, you know, at the end of the day. Right. If it was your choice, would you, would they change the name? You know what I'm saying?

Because, like, it's like someone else naming the album Muddy Waters. Like, it's because Def Jam had owned that name. You know what I'm saying? Like, would you do this? So, it's like a movie remake. Yeah, but this is, I mean, I would take it personal. Not personal as far as Aiden. Like, I'm talking about all, or being mad. I would take it personal just as far as something I don't understand.

Like, I don't know No, not even like Like I said when you when you already know you made the how high franchise a classic already, but it's like We either take it first of all We the mentality of going into doing a How High Part 2, we already said, if the shit ain't going to be funny, we're not going to do it. We ain't going to tamper with the first How High and trying to make a How High 2 funny and an end of crap.

So the script wasn't even ready for us to say, you know what, we ready to shoot anyway. So my thing is, when another branch or brand come in without us knowing and then start tapping into the script without us knowing, that's when we draw the line. Like, you know what? Y'all go ahead and run with that anyway because y'all might put some things in there that we don't agree on and we're not on part of the full process of building How High's script. So y'all go ahead and run with that we we good like we we're not mad at all we congratulate and you know our era congratulates right man we don't we don't hate old haters not at all we just want y'all to bounce the ball the correct way because when the 80s niggas gave it to us nigga we good point we

motherfucking we elevated that bitch. You know what I'm talking about? Like, 90s, one of the most pivotal eras there is still to this day to me. You know, and my motherfucking...

Yeah, that's another good segue. Yes, sir. Who gave... Did Biz Markie give you his name, though? But you was... Who, Biz? Nah.

But you was heavily with Biz Markie. Yeah, absolutely. Biz was from Jersey, bro. Biz was from Jersey? Yeah, Biz was from Jersey. Yeah, what's that Biz Markie story? He was. Biz was from Jersey, bro. Biz was from Jersey? Yeah, Biz was from Jersey. Give us that Biz Markie story. He was living in Jersey.

He was living in Jersey a long time. Okay. You almost ruined my childhood. I thought he was from Long Island. Oh, no, no, no. He was living... He came from Long Island

at an early age. He was in Jersey a long time. But how'd y'all connect and what were y'all doing? Like, everybody heard Biz... And this is pre-Hits 1. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is way before.

Everybody heard Biz lived in Newark and shit. And Biz used to have a big-ass, like, two-, three-floor, like, condo in Newark downtown. Excuse me. See, damn. You got to drink some more. No, man. Fuck that. So, yo, I used to go to his crib and shit.

Like, you know, Biz was good, man. Put me on, put me on. Because I went to Biz first. He'll tell you. Like, Biz, put me on, put me on. And, you know, I just kept pushing and kept pushing. And, you know, we just remained friends and shit. But on my way up, he used to take me to battle.

That's how I got really known in New York for doing that Queens freestyle at Monticello Park or something like that. That's where I got known. I don't know. I was supposed to go to Queens to battle a nigga at Monticello Park. And somebody recorded it and that shit went on the airwaves quickly like

Barbito Show, Stretching Barbito. So that's how I got my name in New York a little bit. But biz used to take me around battle for money. And I used to air motherfuckers out. Like I used to air niggas out so bad. They protested against me at the end of a club. It's like, man, get this nigga the fuck out. It was bad.

But I used to wreck niggas in Long Island. I used to wreck niggas in New York a lot. Blur it out. A lot. Word up. Yo, Axe Biz. Yo, Axe Biz. Straight up. What's going on, Drink Champs Army? It's your boy DJ EFN.

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white at 8 30 and the film will start at 9 p.m if you want to bypass the giveaway process and just buy tickets you can buy tickets at cominghomedoc.com that's cominghomedoc.com for more info just go to crazyhood.com now let's get back to the show. So, um, uh, one of my favorite videos of all time is that's you. I'll be good. Hold on. Making a lot of noise. Let me say that again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a cool moment.

I'm sorry about that. I was getting a burn out of me. I got a book for you right there. I'm old school. I'm old school. Yes, I'm old school. You ain't rolled it yourself. No, I love people's videos.

One of my favorite videos of all time is, um, I'll Be That. It's one of the greatest video. It's hilarious. I shot that in Queens. In Queens, right? Yes. So hold on. Let's take me through that, because whose idea

was that video, period? That was my idea. I need you to shoot a video for me. But let's continue to do that. Absolutely. Yeah, that was my idea. Like, oh, and then you hit the girl with the bike? No, the girl hit the car.

The girl hit the car. She ran into the back of the car. That was that video, right? Yeah. And no, I just wanted to be different. And mostly all the videos I shot in the 90s was my idea. Just directors took the idea and built on it. So who took the credit for that?

Dave Myers? Who was that? Damn, who the fuck was that? Shit, I forgot, man. Was it Diane Martell? Come on, pass. Google that. Come on, baby. The Googler.

We got the Googler. The Googler. But I described, so the video was a shot of Silver Cup Studios, I imagine, because I imagine. Because Silver Cup Studios

is around the corner from Queensbridge. That was the same place where Sopranos was filmed at. I ain't know that. I ain't gonna be. I ain't know that. Was the studio that you filmed it in?

No, no, I shot it right outside. No, I'm talking about, because remember you did the workout part. Oh, you know what? I'm not sure. I don't want to get a pill on this shit. Come on. I'm trying to break it down.

You probably right. You probably on the job. I'm sitting over here. I always guess that for years because you know what's funny was this is like right after like um there was kind of like turmoil with you or mobby or whatever yeah and then it's crazy because at the time I believe core mega was kind of beef with Marty and then you have comedy in it and you You have Cormega in there. And you sent an ill message to Queen's dream. I don't know if you knew. I kind of knew. I kind of knew. But it wasn't deliberate.

Come on, bro. You already know. Also, too, come on. I was living right in the projects right here in Woodside. I was in Woodside Projects, man. Wow. Nigga, I was in Woodside Projects to my fourth album, nigga. You the fuck out of here?

Yeah, man. I was in Woodside Projects right there, man. I used to walk down on, what's that little shopper area y'all got that northern boulevard shit, man? Yeah, style way. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, nigga, so I used to walk from Woodside down to that and then Queensbridge on that and it's a weed spot. It used to be a weed spot right there, right in the back of Queensbridge. One door.

I used to go in and see that nigga. Oh, full realm. Yeah, I used to go see that see that nigga yeah you see that nigga man this nigga's a legend yo so I was already in Queens right there 10 minutes from my beat while we while it was so called we was beefing so I was already there so when we when they decided to shoot the video I didn't come up with that location the video people came up with that location they was like yeah they was like this is a area. And it just happens to be Queensbridge. And but what you were saying, though, I was like, you know, motherfuckers was coming in with it.

It's like, yo, you know, my deep in them niggas. You know, but my niggas who I was with, like twins and all the niggas, they was like, we don't give a fuck who around. But he was a big as well. He should be shooting a video. He was very at the time. They was like, there was a little turmoil between the two sides. But I didn't know that, though.

Did you have a Keith Murray, too? I didn't know that. Keith Murray was before that. I didn't know that, though. I didn't know that turmoil between Carl Mega and... Yeah. You know?

You always have a real positive attitude. Like, I just want to congratulate you for that. You know what I'm saying? Because you know what? I remember when I first went on tour with you, one of my first times,

I was cuffing the mic and no one would tell me nothing. I was just moving. People couldn't really hear me. And you was the only nigga. You came out and you was like, yo, my dude, stop cuffing the mic. You keep cuffing the whole shit. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, geez Louise, brother.

You know what I'm saying? I respect that. I appreciate that. You know what I'm Louise, I respect that. I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate that. I wouldn't say some shit like that. You must have been on there before. I was wild.

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subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Okay, so you came up with this concept. You filmed it. It happens out in the hall. And now, so you say you didn't know that, you know, the things is happening, right? No, I didn't. Okay.

No. All right. But what did you feel like when you heard about when Keith Murray and the Mobb Deep thing happened at the tunnel? Well, Keith Murray, I'm proud of you. Well, I already, first of all, I didn't even know, I forgot how the beef even started. Was it over the skit? The astronomical Diabolical It wasn't

But it Over his shit I believe Prodigy did a skit I believe it is And was like Like making fun of Like the lyrics

Yeah They like And I Well everyone thought It was going We gotta ask Keith Murray About this Yeah

Everyone thought that At the time It was going at you and Keith Murray oh wow yeah oh yeah you know what yeah he when he says something about you talking that space yeah yeah yeah my folks thought he was talking about me I don't know if that was the same thing that kind of sparked keith murray i think it was something i think it is i think it is i'm i'm you know i'm outside different like with him and keith murray but at the end of the day when i heard that he uh what happened at the tunnel um i wasn't surprised because keith murray was a was a loose cannon at that time.

And everybody was getting it. Everybody was getting it. Whoever said something or mentioned anything about the squad, Keith Murray was out there running shit down. Didn't Keith have a fight with Dame Dash at the parlor? Yeah, I didn't see it. I just heard about it. About Dame getting cracked over the head or some shit like that. I don't know

God bless God bless We all here All positivity That's right But that's one thing About the 90s though My nigga

90s you had to get Hicked up over the head Yeah Like it's just You had to get cracked Or smacked Or something That's right

Because we had That communication To slow it down There was no DMs. Yeah, there wasn't no DMs. There was no Twitter. No troll. No, not at all.

By the time it got to the grapevine saying you sorry, we already seen you at your show. Right, right, right. Now that was real. That was real because see right now, you can beef and you can troll

and you can do all that. You might not have never seen this person that you're talking about. Back then, you had to talk shit and then be on Summerfest. And then meet each other at Gavin Convention and Impacts and all this crazy shit. And mix your power something.

And the thing about it is, especially if you had an album out, your record label was forcing you to be in there with the same exact people you was meeting with. So it forced us to be men. Not to say these people nowadays are not men. But I'm just saying it forced us to be men I'm not saying these people Nowadays are not men But I'm just saying It forced us to be more manly

You know Confront the shit you're talking Exactly You don't have to deal with it Live up to what you're talking about Exactly You know what I'm saying Live up to what you're talking about

And usually if something was said Like in the 90s That was out of pocket It usually had to get dealt with It wasn't no just Slick shit and Oh he need to correct himself No

Usually if a motherfucker says something about somebody in the 90s that shit was on and popping no beefing it out or whatever because you know we we took this music shit serious you know yes it's very serious now one of the things that you could probably help me out this is pure me as a hip-hop fan yeah one of the first records I ever heard DMX it comes out he's this is case so okay so without five six years I could not understand the relation I still to this day no understand oh I'm not getting me going up I believe so yeah he said something About Solo and Warner Yeah And I just I can't

Cause there was Two different Generational gaps Am I right Like maybe They're the same age No yeah yeah Definitely come from

The same era But what I'm saying is They was locked up Or something In the same era Cause remember D-Max had been around For a minute

He had deals Before that But he wasn't on Right But he was in the circuit. But he was in the circuit. Right. So I never understood

what happened. You know, it was funny that me and my brother argue about that all the time. Me and Solo. Right. And still to this day,

still to this day, he's still like, you know, that goddamn, you know, DMX, man, DMX. And I don't know

if DMX is still saying, you know, that goddamn K-Solo, K-Solo. But, you know, both of them, you know, it's family. I call DMX my cousin. Right. But the beef, what you're saying is right. Like, it was a little bridge, a little gap in between Solo and when DMX came out. But they was talking about a beat that happened way, way back, and it's still going,

like, bubbling to this day. It's fresh for them to see each other right now. Exactly, and I'm telling my big bro, because you know big bro's a little older than me and shit, I'm like, yo, big bro, don't nobody want to see you and DMX out here shaking the tail feather on some old ass beef, my nigga. You know, you wanna, yo,

straight up to make that, to make that situation acceptable, y'all should do a motherfucking record. Have a spell off. Oh yeah, that's what we, that's what we asked. It was about a spell record. Like I was the first one to spell it. Yeah. mmmmm oh yeah that's the one that's the one that we asked it was about the spelling right there

I was the first one to spell it they should have a spell off how can these niggas in this room know the spell bound nah nah I'm lying I'm buggin out I was loose that's what I'm saying

that's that nigga over saying yeah i didn't go over there i totally forgot the crowd working with ll uh how was that for you oh what the four three two one yes because wasn't that the cannabis yeah that's the cannabis You was just caught in there How did you feel When the drama Unfolded Well shit We were surprised

Cause we was like When we heard Cannabis verse We ain't take it like He was talking about LL We was like With the mic and all Yeah yeah because

I mean it sounded A little aggressive Like alright I'll take that money but the way cannabis was going at it because Ken cannabis was like hanging around us a lot at that time okay but let's describe the scene on everybody in the studio Exactly, we we did our verses separate and me and Mef did our verses together and everyone came in with their verses But when we found and E did the track so I got to hear the verses so When I when I when I heard it

You said Eric Sermon did the track Yeah, Eric Sermon did 4-3-2-1 Eric Sermon produced 4-3-2-1, absolutely Big up to E-Dub and this bitch Yo E-Dub in this bitch. That's what I'm saying. Yo, E-Dub, what's up, nigga? Yo, but bottom line is that when I heard the verse, no one took it as he was trying to diss LL until LL just heard it. He was like, no, no, that don't sound right. I'm not feeling good about this on my record.

And because I think I heard the verse that LL did before that. I'm not sure. Don't quote me and shit But I think I heard the verse And I was like alright Cannabis laid this verse And LL went and changed this verse And that shit was long as hell And he was And he was trying to tear cannabis a new one

And the bottom line is What I was saying is That when we heard cannabis verse We didn't take it as he was trying to tear Cannabis a new one. And the bottom line is, what I was saying is, that when we heard Cannabis' verse, we didn't take it as he was trying to diss. And I don't think Cannabis wrote it as a diss record either. I just think as a young'un, he was just coming up, and he knew he was the new Jack out of all of us.

So he was like, fuck it, let me just get a little aggressive. We had L on here. L said the problem was that when he said, he actually told him that in person he was like yo I'm gonna get a mic just like that and L was like yo listen homie you don't have to give mic like me get a mic just get something else and he he made it clear right there and then when he put it in the rhyme he was like oh let me take that mic off yo I was like oh no I told you he took it personally it personal, like it was a conversation that he was just in here. Yeah, yeah.

See, I didn't hear that. Yeah, yeah. See, now that changed the perspective of what I was thinking. Because if a nigga had something off my arm and they mentioning it in the record later, I'm like, that nigga was trying to get flow. Yeah, he was trying to get flow. He was trying to get flow.

All right, that's good shit. I learned something today. But bottom line is, LL wasn't having that shit. And great shit. He came in and destroyed niggas. But bottom line is LL wasn't having that shit and Great shit. Oh, she came he came in and destroyed niggas who y'all think won between that better Who y'all think one between the cannabis records man Records like the way that came after words when the battle period because the candidate cannabis come back up with one the cannabis record was ill the cannabis first round knockout second round knockout

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second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout

second round knockout second round knockout second round knockout second round knock, second round knockout is classic. But in the end, ultimately, who's here? Yeah, at the end of the day. Alright, correct, yeah. So we ran and we called a couple of people to ask you some questions. We want to see if you know who this person is. Oh, shit. Redman as a DJ.

He was a DJ first. What was his favorite songs to mix and record to tape? Genre. Well, it's a newer thing though. Your favorite genre. I know that's Eric Serwer. And what did he say? What's your favorite genre as a DJ?

To mix, what's your favorite genre? Oh, what's my favorite genre to mix? Genre to mix, yeah. As a DJ? Yeah. Oh, shit. Well, of course, hip-hop, but club music. He said it's a newer thing. That's what he said.

Club. Like, dance music? I'll mix some club, nigga. What are we saying when we say club? Like, house music? Oh. I'll make some club, nigga. What are we saying when we say club? Like house music? Fuck. Jersey, we don't give a fuck, nigga. Hey, listen.

Jersey, niggas, we ain't never been no suckers in no club, nigga. You know, you niggas be talking, we don't dance, we don't fuck up. Nah, nigga. Jersey, niggas, we dance with the hammer on us, nigga. We ain't the kind of niggas that be becoming that bitch like this, because we got that club and rooted in this, niggas, so yeah, we was always club, niggas, always. Because that's what E must have been talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he said, you and John, but I mean, how's it dance? It's a newer thing, yeah, yeah, it's a newer thing. OK, hold on. Oh, he said it's a newer thing? Fuck it, here's the third question. Okay. Oh, it's a new thing Who co-signed him after he got turned down by Dick Jam not once but twice He got told by this other rapper that red man was dope

Oh, I'm assuming it wouldn't be him. I don't know. It sounds like a trick question to me. I mean, if you're going to be honest, I would say that too. Who came up with them questions? You? No, I reached out.

He did. There's some shit that only you would know. I mean, you're Redman. We got to go above and beyond. Damn, man. Who the fuck he said? He said who? Would you like to get the questions again?

No sign you to Def Jam. After Def Jam turned you down is what he's saying. I didn't even know Def Jam turned me down twice. That hurt my heart. I wasn't that bad. That wasn't a question. That was a revelation. Go to sleep.

That's all. I got turned down twice. I remember the red time and shit. But twice? No, no. Wow. Motherfuckers. Twice I got turned down?

He said, you was dope and then Lee off turned his head. That's what he said. Wow. The artist told Lee off and then Lee off turned his head. That's what he said. Wow. That's what he said. Artist told Lee off, he said,

then Lee off turned his head. Wanna hear it again, or? Yeah, so I can kinda, so I can feel maybe who it is. Ask him, do you remember who co-signed him after he got turned down by Def Jam, not once but twice. He said that real cocky, too.

Not once but twice. Not once but twice. He said that real cocky, too. Not once but twice. Not once but twice. By this other rapper that Redman was dope. So he's not talking about himself? You're counting him out? That's the only thing. I didn't ask him for the answer. I'm thinking it's him.

I swore you enough. Listen, this is all new news to me. I didn't know I had to get a co-signer. I've been telling niggas for years, yeah, I just got a signer because I'm a cop. He just got out. Not once, but twice. Not once, but twice.

That cocky motherfucker. You know, he said that real confident too. He didn't roll off or anything. Not once, but twice. You know, if it ain't Q-tip, I don't know who else. If it ain't Q-tip, I don't know who else. That's what it is. I'm just going to say yes.

That sounds amazing. Is that who it is? It might have been Q-tip. Ask him when he got a little bit of money, what was the first car he bought? I know it's corny though, but... It's not corny enough. What was the first car I bought? When I got a little money, what was the first car I bought?

Because when I was living with E, I jacked a nigga for a car And was using his car for a half a year You took that New Jersey shit waste Yeah I needed a fucking car Plus the nigga that I jacked it from Did something to fucking E We had the handle But shit

It had to be a Ford Runner Or a land cruiser let's make some noise for the forerunner land cruiser forerunner land cruiser forerunner land cruiser do you want to show Tito's gift to us alright so look just so you know Redman

we this is the DJ this is horrible we didn't know Eric B. and Wild Kim. I'm the rapper, he's the DJ. We got a show, right? So we never knew this shit was going to blow up. So we got voted for. I know you did. National Film...

NFTA. National Film Television Academy. We're up against Jimmy Kimmel this year. We're up against Jimmy Kimmel, Elliot DeGeneres. Saturday Night Live. We're not supposed to win. So niggas didn't even want to go to the camera. We went up against Jimmy Kimmel. That don't make no sense. Elliot DeGeneres. Saturday Night Live. We're not supposed to win. So niggas didn't even want to go to the awards.

Niggas like, we ain't winning this shit. And we actually won when the True Drink Champs Fashion sent one of our friends to pick up the award. It was in LA.

In LA. He was here. He was going to win. We didn't even win so we didn't go. So we sent our friend and look, this is what our friend

sent us back. So he sent the award to us. This is true drink champ shit right here, Redman. Well, that was not good shit. We ain't pretty shit. Here's one part of it. Oh. Here's the part that says National Film and TV Award. This nigga broke our award, Redman! Redman, he broke our award!

Here's another part. You said all the parts! At least we got all the parts! Get the fuck out of here, at least y'all get to share it. That goes in the middle. I mean, at least y'all get to share it though and shit. Tell them Redmanman for being positive. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Best pop show 2018 drink chance right there. Hey, that's good shit, brother. Just cramp it right here. That's good shit. Yeah, but we actually are first. This is our first. Award? Award.

Like, I think it's our first. We got another award, but this is our first. There's a podcast, too. And where? The Man in the Republic? No, I'm hearing y'all podcast is kicking ass. No, no, but listen. This was dope.

It was dope. And two drinks, chastity. What is it? Tito, 5'7". What is it? No, what's his Instagram? What's his Instagram? Nickname Tito.

Nickname Tito. I forgot. I keep thinking Instagram, yeah. Nickname Tito. Nickname Tito. I forgot. I keep thinking about his Twitter. Nickname Tito, man. Thank you for showing up and collecting our award. And also, fuck you for bringing it. Fuck Tito. He dropped it going into an Uber.

This is crazy. He had a plan of not getting too drunk, so he figured just going to Uber. So I was like alright uber You know uber is like alright cool, but you still fucked up and you drop it going into the uber That's what he told you? I definitely don't believe it And he went bar hopping oh, yeah, there's pictures of the award in every bar I'm going bar hopping with him

He went bar hopping with the fucking award show Tito, come on, give me a fucking break Tito bar with the fucking award show I would have did but did not not coming out of We got one from left field Drake, Jams, Nari, EFN was good, baby. It's the rule. Listen, Red, I got a question for y'all. So this year, I started doing your fuck you redneck shit at my shows. But I had to fuck you Ja Rule a lot. But I started doing it because my message to the world is

we ain't gonna have no more Ja Rule hate. Oh, that was me. Grabbed my bag. Sorry, I'm not that professional. But I'm trying to get my life together. That's right. Okay, hold on. Do we got to start over from the beginning?

Seems like it. Yo, what it is? What it is, Red? Drake Champs, Nori. EFN was good, baby, it's the rule. Listen, Red, I got a question for your stankin' ass. Yo, so this year, I started doing your fuck you Redman chant at my shows, but I do fuck you Ja Rule, obviously. But I started doing it because my message to the world is we

have a watch out for a 2019 going forward so the fuck you job roots is let me get it out they system but I always admired when you used to do that shit daughter was doping and the energy you know the crowd gives the crowd and the kids in the feeds off so I just wanted to ask you What What made you want the crowd To say fuck you Redman Oh well shit man That's an easy question My

Well he got it from me And you know what That's That's a very good Analogy I'm about to make Because you know what Where I got it from Was my mentor Ice Cube

Like my mentor I heard that I was about to say I heard that from Ice Cube I was supposed to I was just supposed to say Easy E Listen Cause Cause all the bitches out that. I was about to say Easy E. I was supposed to say Easy E. Listen.

Because those other bitches out there talking to you, we want to fuck you easy. No, no. That's what I'm saying. Oh, it's different. Ice Cube was saying

fuck you Ice Cube. But see, I got it from a historical time, man. Like, when Ice Cube first came to New York doing that NWA beef

and he did a show at the Apollo. America's Most Wanted. He did America's Most Wanted with Public Enemy. beef and he did a show at the Apollo. America's Most Wanted, he did America's Most Wanted with Public Enemy. Yeah, he did a show at the Apollo, his first time in New York. And when I tell you that Apollo was rampant and that nigga went out there and he was like, say fuck you Ice Cube. I was like, huh? Almost caught a heart attack. I was like, a nigga saying, tell the crowd, fuck him? At that age, come on, this was like, it was like 91. I was like 21 or 22.

No, 21. And he came on stage and said, fuck you. Everybody say, fuck you, White Spirit. And I literally shit a chicken. Right there. Because I couldn't believe how you would get a positive energy from such a negative reaction.

It was like, fuck you Ice Cube. And I just ran with that bitch from there. And then Ja Rule, he got it from me thinking that I made that shit up.

But I got to let him know I got it from Ice Cube but it just shows the line of respect that the MCs that we have for each other for our era and for the era beyond us.

That was a good analogy. I'm even surprised at myself for that. So do you ever look at your career? Because a lot of people, they always say that if Eminem was black, he would be Redman. I think that that is a great thing to say. I don't think that. No, not at all. It's a good thing.

It's a good thing. Yeah, Eminem is hard as fuck. And he looks up to you. Absolutely. Remember his time. Yeah, absolutely. You know Eminem was in Newark way long time ago. Alphys.

Yeah, absolutely. So know Eminem was in Newark way long time ago. Alphys. Yeah, absolutely. So he was always connected. He was always enthused by that Jersey, you know, crew tomorrow we have as far as emceeing or whatever.

And we just remained friends. I think we did that record that was for the Klump's Klump soundtrack. What the fuck is that? Eddie Murphy? Professor?

Yeah, Nutty Professor? Yeah, Daddy Professor. Yeah, Daddy Professor. Yeah, okay. We did a song on the soundtrack, I think part two. Wow. And even from there, like I was going to Detroit a lot.

I would go to his house. This one, he was, you know, living in a crib or whatever. Oh, early days. Yeah, way early days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was doing the battle circuits and all that.

Absolutely. And, you know know, we just remained friends. And I always respected his craft, he respected my craft, and that was it. You know? You have a shot for the goodness featuring me. If the Wi-Fi go out on this one, you fucked. No, Busta Rhymes said, why. I never shoot the video for the goodness featuring him Even though it was big in the streets and on radio like it was a single Okay, this is Nick's coming at you right now. Oh, this is Buster. Rob. Come on What do you say he said?

Asking why he never shot the video for the goodness featuring me Even though it was big in the streets and on radio, like it was a single. Oh, you know what? I, I wanted, what are you talking about? I wanted Busta Rhymes a part of that video.

I think that was a label thing. All right. With the label and Def Jam and whatever, shit, come on,

Busta, no, that's my nigga. I would, I'm the first to be like, even my niggas ask, yo, why ain't,

why couldn't, I was like, shit, it seems like that's a label issue a little bit above my pay grade. So I was just like, all right, I'll let them deal with it.

But of course, I would have had Busta right there. That's my nigga right there. He already know. Yeah, I mean, when it comes to performance, especially the hip hop,

I think as you read, K.R.S. I mean, you are meth. K.R.S. K.R.S. I'm about the skips to Buster can't even say KRS one in the wolf. Wait, wait red meth Buster KRS Dear Max

next De La Soul De La Soul Y'all ain't never see a full day last course? Of course. I have. I was on Tommy Boy. Of course. Shout out to the Spit Kickers tour when they were killing it out there with that. Nigga, have any of y'all seen the De La Show? Mm-hmm. Anybody seen the De La Soul show?

Mm-hmm. Nigga. They like all killings. Them motherfuckers. Yo, listen, man. Yo, listen. I went too far? I went too far, man.

I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Don't even mix that with that. You know somebody. Yeah, yeah. We don't even mix that with your rap. You know somebody. I went too far. You can't even mix that into pop right now. But it's certain niggas that tear the fucking building down. It's certain niggas that get busy.

Right. I could definitely say De La Soul, one of them niggas that tear the building down, would bust the rams. DMX tears the building down. And he cries. Yes, he cries. And he tears the building down would bust the roms. DMX tears the building down. And he cries. Yes, he cries and he tears the building down. Sarmons and all. Yes.

You can't forget Cube. Cube also kills it. Cypress Hill kills it. Oh, Cypress Hill tears the building down. Down. And I'm like, we just learn from niggas.

We just learn off each other because we still do shows. We still do shows, my nigga. Like, our era, we still do shows like it's the 90s. There's still room for us. A whole lot of room. Absolutely. Because even now, in the States right now, too, it used to, it came to a certain part where we was getting a lot of money overseas. But since a lot of motherfuckers, a lot of new artists is not putting on good shows. They turn right back around to 90s niggas.

Yeah, because they want motherfuckers to rock the crowd. Yeah, yes, they just want motherfuckers to be rocking. And we, yo, we fluent now. We back on the road, man. Shit. Goddamn, make some noise for that A-Bike. Oh, yeah. Y'all have to be on the road too if you wasn't here.

Yeah, I was killing Europe for a little while, goddammit. Now, MTV Cribs. This had to be the most legendary. It's the most memorabilia because I love your story every time I see you. Obviously, I go watch interviews. And every time you say, everybody wanted me to rent a crib. Yeah. They wanted you to rent a crib. Yeah. They wanted you to rent it.

Because that's what they were doing. A lot of artists were doing that. Hey, man, come on, man. Give me a break. You go in there, you see that shit on TV. That shit all neat. Right.

Like a museum in there and shit. Like no one can touch it. Come on, man. You open the refrigerator, the food is neatly placed in that. What season of MTV Cribs was this? I don't even know. It was like going near to their last season down here.

Because I wasn't a part of the first couple of seasons. I know that. Right. The only thing I know is that they expected something else. Right. So you didn't even tell them. No. My fat ass cousin was there.

He ain't here. He was the one sleeping on the floor. We about to have him on the show too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the one sleeping on the floor. You were about to have him on the show today. Yeah, he was the one sleeping on the floor. He know. Because we talked about it and they was like, I was like, we want you to do MTV Cribs. I was like, alright, cool. They said, yo, we got a house that we would like to put you in. I was like, oh word? And I had to think about that shit my my brand was on the line another time how many goal albums you have at this time i think i had like four four goal albums but just in the midst of that decision i had to make a real a

real executive decision on that uh on that answer and i you know what, no, I don't want to rent a house. I want y'all to come to my house. And they ain't have no idea where the fuck they was coming to. Now where was this house at? This house was in Staten Island. Oh, okay, okay. And see what happened was...

I'm so out of this work. No, no, no, this was like a real estate project I was doing and shit, so this was like my first little real estate shit, I was like, oh, I'm going to fix this bitch up soon. But I ended up staying in the bitch and shit because I had no way to go. So, you know, I got out.

Worn out, no, true story and shit. True story. That's a very risky real estate project. Yeah, yeah, I ended up living it. I had nowhere to go. So these motherfuckers showed up like a half hour early trying to be all cocky and shit at my door, you know, a half hour early.

And they came in my shit he was like damn this is where you stay in there for real I was like yeah this is what we shoot in that for real let's get the cameras rolling to set up and and they came in With An assumption And they left with an understanding With appreciation Of how An artist can be so Known to the world

But appreciate staying in a spot Like this to generate his brand And still to this day I'm right in that spot That was my last question Was he really really there Yeah my nigga Generate his brand and still to this day. I'm right in that spot Because bottom line ask you that's real niggas, you know, you always got to have somewhere if shit go down I got a shit go down spot, but the bell didn didn't work though The bell still don't work The bell don't work It fucking don't work Is this still a real estate project

Right now No no But at the end of the day I bought I bought that bitch For 60 grand And I can sell that shit For 200 now

By the month But I stay in it Because It's my little sanctuary You know what I mean I'm scared to live in a big ass house. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm scared. There's too many windows and shit for sneaking around and ghosts and shit can build up in a house. But yeah, I can't fuck with no big ass house that I got to walk to another room. Ghosts can build up. They can have a community in another country. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Let me tell you something. This is legendary. Yeah, I can't fuck around. I can't fuck around. God damn, you is legendary. Yeah, I can't fuck around. I can't fuck around. Goddamn, trick or no trick. I can't fuck around. I haven't got any bathrooms and shit.

Hey, he not talking about ghostface killing Nathan by the way. No, not at all. So, you really do? You really do live in that crib? Yes, boy. So, we remake MTV Crib. Not now. We remake MTV Crib.

Now? Because you know I'm trying to bring it up. You trying to make fun of me, my man? No, I'm not trying to. No, boy. So, if we remake MTV Cribs. Not now. If we remake MTV Cribs. Because, you know, I'm trying to make fun of me. No, no, no. Now, listen. So, if I'm bringing back... Because I want to bring back MTV Cribs, but I want to bring back it on a Spanish version called La Casa. So, we're going to go to, like, get Platanos, and then you're going to be the only black nigga on this episode.

I can go see you, and we can go there. Copy that. Let's do that. Matter of fact, look at my Instagram right now. I'm getting my shit done up right now. Same crib. Same entire crib. We should do revisited.

Revisited. They did a revisited. They did a part two. And that shit was funny as hell too because they revisited and I got some things done in there. I was like, yo, I want y'all to see what I got done in there. You tweeted first time. But then we went to the bathroom and shit and I forgot

because I said, yeah, and you know what they knew because they seen the first version. They said, so is this the same shower curtain? And I was like, no, I wouldn't do an MTV crib way back then, then 12 14 years ago and this still had had the same shower curtain and they went back to the

first one and I still had that same shower curtain I was like oh shit they played me out heavy but it was good though it was good yeah It was a revisit. It was Car TV Cribs revisit. Oh, man. Check that out. Oh, man. That is hilarious. All right. Now, one of my favorite joints.

Black and white video. Tonight's the night. Mmm. That's a classic. Yeah. Chills go through your mind. Forever classic. Yes, sir. Like, again, like I said, I just like to go have a playlist.

Most of the time it's in the audio. But, you know, this morning, well, this afternoon, my barber, is the barber here? No? He's about like... But the barber, I was like, yo, he put the whole shit on.

When that shit came on, we just both, he just stopped cutting my hair i just stopped getting my hair cut we just looked at it you had no choice it was just like it paused both our life like it was just like moving it was just something between us like all right cool five minute break let's watch who produced that record uh eric sermon and you know did you know it was a classic when you recorded it yeah well, well, you know, because these was batches of records that I had

and we would just get loops off the record, man. But yeah, the way he put it together and the way I orchestrated the lyrics, yeah. It was what we was feeling. Such a crazy record.

Like in the 90s, we really didn't give a fuck what the audience was feeling. We made our own sound. That's why all of us stood out and stood different. Absolutely. Yeah, man.

And actually, on that video, that was Russell Simmons helped put that video together. That was Brett Ratner's first video he ever shot. And after that, he went on to did movies. That's the Rush Hour nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Actually, his mama was in the video, too. That white lady was in the video.

That was Brett Ratner's mama. That's real. A lot of things can't say that. Absolutely. I have Brett Ratner's mama in my video. Was he a part of your team of raps, too? Let's just say he had Brett Ratner's mama twerking. Let's just throw it out there.

What? I don't think twerking was out in the 90s. She was working. She was doing the what? In Miami, they was doing something like that. Y'all was out here booty shaking. What She was working. She was doing the Y in Miami and they was doing something like that. Y'all was out here booty shaking. What's the shit

called out here? That's what I'm saying. You was out here? You from here? I'm LA born but raised in Miami. Okay. So what's your favorite

era in hip hop? What is it? And this is a 10 year span so you don't have to say you know you don't have to be in an era. Doesn't matter. Favorite era of hip hop? Yeah don't have to be in the era doesn't matter favorite era of hip hop yeah it had to be like our era and the 80s era I was a big yeah so what you

say 89 and 99 I would say well shit I would shit well run DMC kind of how late 80s to run DMC is early yeah yeah yeah I'm saying you me. Late 80s to... Run DMC is early 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm saying you can say late 80s to mid 90s. I would say from... Yeah, I would say 80s to 90s. To our era to... So forever. Well, no, no, no.

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When the new music started coming in, I had to get a better understanding of what was going on. Because bottom line is, my nigga, I can't never shit on hip hop because it still provides jobs

for my niggas out here. You're able to come off the street and feed your family. But the fabric of it, I wasn't happy. Or the artistry of it. Because I remember at one point I was looking at your Instagram

and you kept, like keep 90s alive type shit. You was also, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I was doing all 90s niggas. Yeah, I was just representing 90s niggas, but.

Did that come from a form of frustration? No, not even. Not even. Because I'm not frustrated about the new era because bottom line is, you know, we need them. But some of these things disappoint me. Some of the things might disappoint you on the things that disappoint me is is not the music is going to be music. You have a option to turn that shit off or keep it on bottom line the thing that kind of disappoint me is the The ethic the work ethic to get in the game It's just so easy like my grandma could record a hot hook right now

Fucking America with a hot song you And that should be all over she'd go get a deal. And producers would want to work with her. It's good that you have that opportunity so much in your face. But when you get something that grand, it also comes with a con to it. It's always a con To a pro and pro Yeah it's good for grammar But it's not good for the culture

It's not good for the culture And So it just made it Real diluted Right As far as What kind of material Represents a good fabric

That we We done bounced the ball to Cause you know We had to pass the ball And like I said When we got the ball From the 80's niggas We bounced that shit

And we We elevated that shit And we elevated that shit. And we branched it out and we made it more of a language for other countries and cultures to understand us as a people. And then as we bounce the ball more to the next generation, I think a little bit of that fabric of them thinking what we was trying to do has lost. It turned into just money. And, you know, let me just do this record put it out get this pub yeah but overall i think it's coming back around because motherfuckers even a new audience look nigga i got five kids and they all range from 29 to 14 you know and three of them is is is grown in their 20s so i get the

the rundown and two of them live in ats. So I get the rundown. And two of them live in Atlanta. So I get the rundown on new artists, old artists, who new niggas listen to, who the young. And most of the young people that I talk to, they be like, no, no, no. That young shit they play on the radio, that's for them little young niggas. We listen to them. We listen to y'all niggas. We bump 90 90 shit, yo,

and it's a lot, a lot of young cats that's doing that. It is. So, I would definitely say Y'all Arrow, man. Big up to Al,

he got a whole station. Yeah, Rock the Bells. Rock the Bells. I listen to all the time. I love it, yeah. Rock the Bells is killing it,

man. Sway is always killing it. Shout out to Sway. Shout out to Heather B, man, too, man. Heather B came along. Oh, Heather B. That's my sis right there. That's my sis.

So she's Jersey, right? Yes. Okay. So what's the best perks about hip-hop? What's the best thing that hip-hop has done for you? Good fucking question. Good one. Helped me, besides put money on the fucking table, and it allowed me to be that nigga who I am.

It helped molded me, because I knew I wasn't working a nine to fucking five. Right. And I knew I wasn't working a nine to fucking five. And I knew I wasn't going to be able to take orders from nobody waking up in the morning. Nigga, the reason why I rap is because I ain't want to wake up in the morning. I'm not a morning nigga. I can't wake up in the morning taking no orders from no motherfucking body. Not even my mama. This morning I woke up in my mama's house.

She tried to get me something to do early so as soon as I got the fuck up, I'm like, hold up. My shit. Like, hold up. Let me get into myself first before you start passing me the screwdriver and shit.

To unloose this shit. You know, I need to mold. I need to get into myself. And as creative as I am, I know that I would not be able to get up and take orders from nine to five and be the man I'm supposed to be even though I did and I got fired from every job I had I ain't quit I got fired you know so what hip-hop done for me is molded me into this person who I am and actually brought out the reality of this world because I was able to travel here and there travel to this country travel to this state and see how motherfuckers

work see how people work over here and live see how people appreciate their culture over here so it also you know opened my eyes to, you know, this fucking world, man. You know it, bro. Yeah, it's such a beautiful day. Like, yeah, it's like, man, shit, man, the only thing I knew

was Newark. And I was afraid, like, look, nigga, either I'm going to be rapping or I'm going to be selling drugs because I'm not going to know 9 to 5 waking up and shit. You know?

You know, when we had, we had EPMD on the show and I kicked myself after that show because one of my favorite collectives and crews in hip-hop, hands down, at least my generation, is Hit Squad. Obviously, there's the Juice crew and all these guys. Well, Hit Squad was first, right?

No, no, no. I'm talking about Juice crew was before us. That's not my generation. That's right before me. I'm in high school when the Hit Squad, and that too. So what I want to know is, how did that all come together? What did it mean to you? What was that whole vibe in the Hit Squad?

Because you had K-Solo, Dazzle Flex, Hurricane G, EPMD. I got to talk about the break up, because I got to take a pee pee. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So the Hit Squad came, I think I was, no a pee pee so the the hit squad came like I think

I was no I wasn't the last member to come in like Dice Effects was the last member to come in and when

Dice Effects got signed then I got signed then we kind of came up with the hit squad we're going to

go on the road who came up with it I don't know it was either Parrish thing I'm not too sure like I think Parrish thing. I'm not too sure.

I think Parrish did it. We went out on the road. We called ourselves the Hit Squad. Everyone out besides me, I don't think I really had a strong single out or anything, but I was just on the road. So it was before your album? Yeah, it was kind of before my album

that we had the Hit Squad. I was just going out. Yo, I was going out doing freestyles, and I was murdering shit. Murdering everything on the road. Every time they brought me out, I was murdering shit. Headbangers out already, right? Because that's before you. We kind of started the Hit Squad before Headbangers.

Because that's what solidified it. Yeah. I was on the third album when we went out on the road. Right. And then we came up with Headbangers. So it was right in between the third album, fourth album, where the Hit Squad kind of built up. And we just took it there, man.

We was just rolling. And then when it split up into, then it's Def Squad and Parrish still stayed with his squad, right? No, no, no. Parrish still stayed with his squad. That's what I'm saying. I said Parrish stayed with it. You said Eric. No, no, Parrish.

Parrish stayed with his squad. Eric, we went to Def Squad. His squad and Def Squad? He made Def Squad. How awkward was that for you? It wasn't awkward. It was just a business move. Because you came in with E?

Yeah, that's right. I'm going to leave with E. All right. You know? And it wasn't awkward, it was just a business move. Because you came in with E? Yeah, that's right, I'm going to leave with E. All right. You know, and it wasn't nothing, man. It was just like, all right, these two guys, the bosses, you know, they're not getting along. So they got to go their ways and learn. You know, no big fucking deal. Now, it was an awkward moment, right?

At one point where Tupac comes home from jail. He's wilding on everybody, he's telling everybody, fuck you from New York, and then this record comes out of nowhere. We hear the story that you guys did it for Daz later, but for a week in New York history, people was like, what the fuck is going on with Red Mav? Did you never not feel that?

And Dog Pound's on that record too, right? Yeah, because I got in. No, for a week, I'll be honest. Yeah? I mean,

I never knew that. People were kind of skeptical. Okay, look at that. That's Tupac saying it's real. No way, yo. That's Tupac saying it's real. I never knew that.

Yeah, it's like, it might have been two or three days, you know, because back then we didn't have a Twitter. We didn't say, yo, we did that for Daz. Like, you know, you got to remember, even when you did a source article, you did that shit two months in advance. That's right.

You did an XXL or Vibe or some shit. You did it in October for December's issue. That's right. So, I understand, like, there was at least a two- to three-day period, maybe even a week, where people were like, is Red Mephilo? We're hiding with the West Side? Get the fuck out of here. Well, just being honest.

Like, I'm sure you never heard that. I'm high as a moth. But you never heard, like... No, I ain't never heard that shit, man. You crazy as hell. No, you not. No, no, listen. I'm going to be honest.

Word, that's crazy. Because you got to remember, like, this came out right after Who Shot Y'all, something like that. It came out right in the period of where it was like, even if you love pop, you have to kind of like take the choice that stands. And then this record came on again

My mind made up and it was like whoa I'm saying you know what happened was you guys you or or or map? I forget which one of y'all came to say yeah, we did that for dads and they cleared it up both Yeah, we both cleared it up. You broke it up before I'm saying for that we can tell like I said, we have a Some people were like, yeah, I kid you not get out of here, man. I never really heard that but you hear We know we was doing it for dad's yo, right like we feel nothing cuz we knew we was going even if we was going In for pop right like we really didn't we wasn't tripping that much, you know, Tom Oh, but we went to do it for dad

So we didn't have No feelings at all We was just like Yo we just gonna Lace this shit And even deck was in there They cut deck off They cut deck

Yeah I remember The deck was on there Yeah but Yeah we didn't know That shit was going on Pac album You know So you had no warning

It was just It just dropped No no it wasn't No but we heard the story How it happened and shit Cause we You know like in the movie Yeah Yeah as soon as he came home, he was taking everything.

Now that I watch the movies, I was like, all right, yeah, okay. And I missed the time while he was doing that album, how that song made it. He came home and he said he was just taking everything. Like, I need that. You got to meet Pac? Absolutely. Oh, word? Describe that.

I've never got to meet Pac. In what era of punk did you meet? I've seen punk a couple of times. I took pictures with punk and shit, man. Punk was cool as fuck. Bottom line. You know, when you see certain motherfuckers like, you know, you carry an aura about yourself

to when motherfuckers meet you whatever they're doing in the world, they come down to a, yo, what's good, my nigga? How you get to a certain level of respect because you know that person know you love hip-hop just as much as they do. So it was always a mutual good, you know, understanding with us every time we seen each other. Never no red line or anything, my nigga. That's a beautiful thing.

It's got to be. Now, I'm surprised you never heard that, though. No that shit it was a there's three days of people like you know cuz you know what else was um uh uh Tuesday that was our book shot shorty enough because that was really close I'm gonna tell you why because not only that they was close to pop but because member buckshot and I'm happy for big yeah so then on his record what would pocket the time seemed like they were aligning they said you understand says so then you have met everybody was like where the fuck are these niggas coming now you saying they okay maybe you're so sad I'm just saying because

but no one else at that time what we with them because of Pac's harsh words. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? People were kind of mad at y'all for a little while until it was the interview.

I forget what interview it was where y'all was like, yo, we did it for Daz and Karrueche. And everyone was like, oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? And it made sense. It was quite right up.

Like it was down. It made sense. But see, you know, because now I can put you on a record with Amy Schremer. You know what I'm saying? And you can address the rumor immediately. Listen, listen, Bill, look, I did the record for Norrie.

That's right. Norrie put Amy Schremer on. That's right. I don't care. I don't give a B for Amy Schremer. Is Amy Schremer? I don't know. I'm just joking.

You said her last name like Amy. What do you mean? He was like Schremer, Schremer, Schremer, Schremer. You understand? I'm just, you know, I'm just... You said I'm nasty. I hate the way you said it. He was like, sugar, sugar, sugar, no more. You understand what I'm saying? Like, so back then,

you couldn't address a rumor. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's why right now, if you don't address a rumor, immediately you seem guilty. Because you have every outlet to do it. Yes, you do. You know what I'm saying?

Remember back in the days, you could ignore this shit. You'd be like be like yo they said I got such as a word what is nor it goes away now you ignore they like that motherfucking guilty I'm sorry for him over again yeah but he's been for a long time and look at what's going on he got He got to go to jail. You know, that's something. I've never wished jail on anybody in my life. But this has changed.

At the end of the day, that's something for him and the higher power to deal with. He's going to pay the price for whatever him and the higher power told him. You know what you got to do. You got to deal with it. You worked at the Harbor before? Huh? You worked at the Harbor before? Did I?

No. I got one back at work. Oh, you did? You got to deal with it. I'm gonna know how you work to the people Did I know I got one? Okay, well, are you doing a record my only record with Jay-z is with R Kelly? Me Jay-z and Cameron's caught me right. Come on. Google. It has nine million. So I got the flag. That's right I actually was funny shit is all I don't know but when I went to the studio, I had actually seen a bed in the studio and I didn't get a mom. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Yo, listen, don't open a can of worms or your own shit. Yeah. I mean.

What eyes wide shut shit is this? All right, listen. All right, I don't know if you guys ever know, like, there's a studio called Bearsville. With beds, little beds? No, Bearsville in each. I like that, you go, I like that. You know, I can take a joke.

But in Bearsville, it's upstate New York, Woodstock. This is where we did the Firm album, where we did our NRE album. So track masters used to rent this. So each studio had their own house to it like house to it so you were rent studio a studio a upstairs that's where the engineer would sleep you know since you could you stay in the studio the whole time so when i i just came from that mind you this was track masters track masters working with r kelly um so when i looked in his studio to to to Lay my first I didn't by the way, but my labor first when I see the bedroom

I see nothing wrong with it like not because I didn't knew what was going on But because I had just seen Woodstock, you know I'm saying and I see that, you know You could actually sleep in the studio. You. I'm trying to process it. All right, let me describe it. Let me describe it. This is Studio A. Next to the mic is the studio. No, no, no. This is Woodstock. This is Woodstock. This is Woodstock.

You got bunk beds next to the mic? Give me out. This is Woodstock. It's called Bearsville. So Studio A is here, right? Studio B is here. Studio C is here. They all individually houses.

One of them is Woodstock. No, this is all in Woodstock. Oh, Woodstock. It's all in Woodstock. Okay. So, you know, we're going to go through the whole thing. We're going to go through the whole thing. We're going to go through the whole thing. We're going to go through the whole thing. We're going to go through the whole thing. We're is here. They all individually houses. One of them is Woodstock. No, this is all in Woodstock.

Oh, Woodstock. It's all in Woodstock. It's called Bearsville. So Studio A, I can work in Studio A. There'll be knives in there, jungle in there. But they got a three-bedroom upstairs. Right. You understand?

The whole thing. Okay. So you understand what I'm saying? Studio B would be the same thing. It'd be Nature, 50 Cent, and such and such. And then Studio C would be Nori and my crew. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then Studio B would be the same thing. It would be Nature, 50 Cent, and such and such. And then Studio C would be Nori and my crew. You know what I'm saying? Right.

So after seeing that, I was like, oh, okay. Like Circle House. Right, right. Circle House is the same as that. Like Circle House. And so when I seen our shit, I didn't become alarmed. Because I was like, oh, okay. Certain niggas just record.

Let the engineers wake them up. the engineer you didn't wake him up No, I don't see not not even up my first person. It was just weird They wanted me to lay the verse with myself, but I was like I just broke out Yeah, because I'm trying to see where he was going with this motherfucker The same exact the same exact shit that they showing on the shit when they said that the river the beds was I actually went Oh, yeah. I see I see what you saw the studio we're in a studio they said the studio where the lady do the rocks and was trying to go well they say in the studio they they had beds in there. Like, beds. Like, instead of a lounge, that lounge would be a bed.

You know what I'm saying? And there would be people there. And you went in there? I saw an actual bed, but I didn't see. You didn't go in there? I ain't going in no bedroom. I ain't need to go in no bedroom. I've had eight niggas move me from Black Bracket City.

It's a little different. We're a little different. It's all the way terrible. Yeah, it's all the way terrible, by the way. But, yeah. I don't know how we got here bottom line is like R Kelly in like in the 90s, whatever he was doing personally ain't my business. But I know when I was a part of his video, when he invited a whole gang in there. Because I think he was there. I wasn't out there, man.

I'm just asking. He invited a gang of rappers, and it was outside of some... Matter of fact, in my... No, it was an R. Kelly video. And it was gang, and it was outside. Retrieving R.E. I don't know. I don, it might know it was an R Kelly video and it was game I don't know what song it was My bottom line is like he's so much love like he definitely Show niggas love when he was out like Keith Murray did a song with him and she I'm sure he showed you the song

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you show my love that video was hot but even personal hey man, you know gotta do it Yeah, what I never thought Michael Jackson did it And what a segue I don't think my the desk. I don't think I don't like nobody talking about Mike. Oh, I don't think my good day But you can't talk about really like Mike around me. That's what I'm saying. You can't talk about Whitney around me neither. You can't make a fuck around

and talk about Whitney around me. I feel that too. No, no. I feel that too. Mike, I don't know. I don't think Mike did it. I don't know. I just feel like

You know. You know what? As we done grew older and started understanding the government and how just that whole operation of the world works Now I know he didn't do it right now the way the way these popular people are dying and getting caught up in shit

My my my my percentage on if he was set up Right is more higher than him. Just yeah, he was set up of course You know just media the way media manipulates him. This might fuck you up, though. I also think OJ ain't do it. Oh, my God. I think... You think OJ ain't do it?

Did this fuck up my credibility just now? I don't know. Look, look, look. I don't think OJ did it, man. Ask Jerobe. Jerobe? Jerobe did it?

Don't ask me that shit. You know what I mean? Jerobe, you think OJ did it? Jerobe. I don't know right man. Ask Jerobe. Jerobe? Jerobe did it? Don't ask him. Jerobe, you think OJ did it? Jerobe. I don't know man. The blackness will not allow you to answer this question. I don't think OJ. I believe the black. I believe the black. I don't think OJ did this.

I hung out with a lot of killers. Yes. Remember the story though, at the, backstage at the concert. Which one? I got two. I got one of killings. Yes. Remember the story, though, backstage at the concert. Which one? I got two. I got one in the concert. I got one in Sports Grill.

No, the one he said, he's a murder unit. I just said he's a murder unit. No, I grabbed O.J. I said, you murder unit. He said, yeah. He said, no. He said, yeah.

He thought, you know, it's a rap gang. No, no. That was weird. That was a little weird. He said, oh, you murder gang. Murder unit. He was like, yeah. Gang Yes Yes Yes Yes OJ yes So look I hung out with OJ At a bar called

Sports Grill In Kendall one day Yeah he lived in Kendall And I looked at him Cause I know Every killer In the world

They got a certain Je ne sais quoi About their eye Domain That's right There's something about them names. And OJ had it. I looked for him every which way, shape, form, or fashion.

And I tried to ask some questions each with OJ ain't do it, man. He ain't do it, man. Now he might not know somebody who did it, but him himself, he ain't do this shit, man. Let's make some noise for OJ. The niggas is careful. But him himself, he ain't do this shit, man. Let's make some noise for O.J. You say you cross-examined O.J.? Yeah, I did. I ain't gonna lie. All right, but Ray, you was a part of hip-hop's first historical tour.

Like, to me. We got Run DMZ, we got... The Fresh Fest. We got all that, but this is the one for, you know, breaking into that new era.

These are the new kings of hip-hop. And it would have to be U Red, DMX, Ja Rule, and the homie Ho. How was that? Because I heard John John because it's flying through there peeing on people like R Kelly I don't know why it's on my mind I'm so sorry

yeah I was flying through those definitely what the fuck the hard not life to it how am I Knock Life Tour Yeah you fucking right The most historical tour That ever went out Most historical First off By the way Hold on

Before you answer that question Cause They were It was so much bad press When y'all announced it To ask if this tour Would never last I'm not gonna lie

I didn't think it was gonna last And y'all What was it 60 days three months yes on a motherfucking road every day sold out every day sold out hip hop because this is a long pause this is a question. So who approaches you and what do they say? They say, hard knock life nigga, let's go. Yes. That's it? Yeah.

But you know what? It was Jay and them coming in the death jam. And, you know, they, I mean, they got the building hot. I mean, we had the building hot already with the artists that was bumping up there with us and you know everybody else but when they came in the building it was like a growth because they had

their own entity you know what I'm saying they had yeah entity you said entity I was like what no no I said entity

okay so they had their own their own brand I would say and they collabed with Def Jam and when they decided to do the fucking tour it was just like So they had their own brand, I would say, and they collabed with Def Jam.

And when they decided to do the fucking tour, it was just like we was that ingredient that they needed. And we was like, fuck yeah. For 60 days. 60 days straight. Fatass Mark, you was on it, you know. And Mint Bleak was on there too. Everybody was on that bitch, man. Beanie Seagull.

Beanie Seagull. Those were back-to-back dates? Yo, everybody was on that bitch, man. Oh, Beanie Siegel. Beanie Siegel. Those were back-to-back dates? Back to, no, not back-to-back. Some of them were. Like, we would work like four or five days out the week, then drive two days. Had to rest for the bus driver and all that shit. But it was literally like 10 buses out that bitch, man. Damn near. This is what Dame Dash called Kevin Lyle's a quarter war.

Yeah, on that DVD backstage joint. Kevin Liles is my brother, but that was hilarious. Did you not agree, Red Mass? Yeah, that's a K-Liles, man. But yeah, we had fun out there. So they come to you and they just say, yo, you guys want to do it? And you just automatically just, I mean. Yeah, we just jump on.

And then, so you know this is a Star Wars tour from the first night? Or when did you realize it? I noticed it after the fucking first night. Because we... You was walking on people's hands? Yeah, man. It was like, yo, it was like the first night. It was like game time.

It was like, all got like You got like Six, seven major niggas On the tour And it's like Alright the first night We like Alright who Who gonna blow the building

Down and shit And usually man I ain't gonna fucking lie man When Red MF came out And shit Niggas was still Sweeping the floors And shit

But I heard Ja Rule went on Before you Yeah Yeah And niggas was Putting up cups And shit

And sweeping And putting up chairs And shit and sweeping and putting up chairs and shit. And the building didn't get packed until the half of Red MF's show every night. And Ja Rule and them came out with Jay and them.

I thought he came out first and then came back out. That's what he's saying. I think he came out before you and then came back out. Yeah, I mean, if. Did he? I think he came out before you and then came back out. Yeah, I mean, if he came out before us, I mean,

he had to definitely be getting the, the crowd was the people that worked there in the building because when we came out, literally sometimes they'd be setting up seats

and shit and it'd be a small crowd in the front but it'd be kind of packed in the back and shit and then half our show it'd get packed in the front. But the first day, what I knew it was going to be historical tour was the first day because we all went out there to show our balls. We was like, fuck that.

We coming on early. We blowing this bitch down. And then we came out there, we did our thing. We swung on the ropes and shit, kicked niggas in the head. And then we stayed and watched Jay and them show and DMX and them show. And we was like, oh, man. And they stayed and watched our show.

I mean, they came in a couple of times early and watched our show and they was like, these niggas is flying. And then we seen as they started adding more shit because niggas ain't know

we was flying. They had to come to our show. Lady Gaga technically bit y'all shit. Yeah, she did? Yeah. Fucking Gaga, huh? Nigga and Gaga shit, but hey, I'll tell you what, we decided to fly when we knew how early we had to come on and shit.

We had to come on early, so we was like, fuck it, we had to make an impact. All right. Leo, let's bring in the homies. Let's bring in the homies. Let's mic them up. And shit, you know we had to come on early so we was like fuck we had to make an impact We are No, we gotta do we got some we got a new guest more let them introduce themselves the people, come on talk to the people Mr. Motherfuckin' Kareem, go ahead Hey yo, stop blowin' that goddamn thing I need to do a show tonight, you know I ain't gonna be able to hear the goddamn music We goin' to your show, we comin' to support you

Yeah, Mr. Kareem in the building Yes, yes, Mr. Kareem, Brick City, Gila House, Cruddyville, you know how we do, man That was hard The legendary DJ Dice Brooklyn, original DJ from Dice, in fact Gila house pretty real you know how we do man that's hard this is a dream chance addition we should drink this in Branson this is for the piece to Eddie I'm gonna take it off this one. Don't worry, don't worry, one. It's kind of licking that point. This is organic. It's a tradition. It's like gin.

It's an ancient Chinese secret. Ancient Chinese secret, just one. That's the first thing they tell you, I think, though. Should I do it for my boy? Am I doing it for you? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey.

Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. You are now live! That was the most horrible as shit. Explain it to the people.

That is strong liquor. No. Explain it to the people. This is not strong liquor though. That is strong liquor. No, it's not liquor though. It's herbs. But I think we fucked this batch up because I've had that shit in my crib in my... Even Red took more than you? Come on. I gotta be behind those turnips. Okay, okay, okay. You gonna drink that motherfucker. You ain't drinking? Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh DJ for Red. Because I don't know, he got to be like a spontaneous type of guy. Or is he a structured type of guy?

Why would he hurt a stripper if he's nasty? Well, for those that don't know, me and Red been friends since 92, A Squad days. So, that chemistry was always there. When I left DOS FX in 99, the twins, Mike and Folk, they branched off, they did their thing and it so happened that Red like, where that little black fucker at, Dice Up? So he found me and I've been with him ever since.

Year 2001, when the Twin Tiles went down. But working with him is incredible. He keeps you on your toes that type of person like you fuck up you gonna let you know I think I must and I keep it to the world I'm from Brooklyn I'm good I'm gonna fire about a hundred times but he does that for a reason and you know he'sdick, he's amazing. That's why I showed him the way it is. Let's make some noise for that.

You the same question, my brother. You make some noise for that lippy you fucking just gave me. How is it being around a guy? It's beautiful, man. Big cars, I love being around a man right but around us this I was a little key it wasn't a jacket it was under a couple or something. I thought my arm was out. Y'all got me all these years. Y'all got me.

It's fun, though. So now, growing up in Brick City and seeing all the things that you have seen, do you ever thought that he would make it this far? That's a good question. All the things that I've seen. It's like, yeah, I always knew they'd make it this far. Oh, wow. How the fuck you knew?

Because since I came up the hill, you remember that time I came up the hill and you was back there and you was DJing in the backyard and Doolin was out there rapping. And I came up and I spent my little verse and shit, but you know you were the one pay me no attention But I see and you was doing your shit, and I was like yo, but I always looked up It was like there was no cars gonna be you know Because he used to always come to my goddamn house Trying to get on the road, and I used to always turn him around listen and not tell him no I don't want you out here with me and he forced his way On to me because he was my younger cousin, but he forced his way on and now I know Soon as I rung the bell, it was a cab already waiting for me like he already knew I was coming and was sending me home

No, but now And this motherfucker here, you know, since we got history from the Hit Squad days, you know, I fire his motherfucking ass every motherfucking shot. Every chance I get, I try to fire him. And just for some reason, you know, we just stay

connected because we're family. But, in all sense, they know that expectancy on the stage to compete, because you know, Nori, we came from an era where we got to compete. Bottom line... You have to have a good show and good records.

Exactly. You have to have both of them. And if you ain't have the hit records, you have to have a good fucking show. And that's just what we're about. You know, bottom line. That shit got me talking snow. You're so beautiful, man. You understand. You understand, man. Let me just tell you something.

Yo, that shit is crazy, yo, how liquor just goes to my feet because I don't drink. Yo, this shit just went right to my fucking toes. That's a quote. Tiger bone goes to your feet. Yo, it just went right to my feet, yo. But let me tell you something, Red. There's so many places, there's so many artists that after you get 10 years in this game,

these people want to call you what they call, quote-unquote, washed up. They want to say that it's over for you. And the thing about it is I want to change that perspective. I want people to know that the longevity you get in this game, just like rock and roll or jazz or whatever We want to celebrate you We want to tell motherfuckers You know what You're an OG

But a lot of times people call you OG But they don't really mean it They're just calling you OG Because there's something that they want to say Or it could even be derogatory sometimes You know what I'm saying But I don't want to change that perspective I want to say that the longer you've been in this game

The longer season you've been in the game, we want to salute you. We want to big you up. You know what I'm saying? As opposed to kicking these people out of the game and doing that, that's what Drink Champs is for. We're a platform for people who have been in this game

for 10 years and more. And you know what? As opposed to 10 years and more, but we're telling you, we fuck with you. Exactly. We fuck with you. You seasoned.

When Sammy Davis got 10 years, they fucking loved him for that. You know, why the fuck in our game, you get 10 years, you get 12 years, you get 15 years, people say, well, it's over for him and there's a new version of him. Why the fuck they got to be that? Why they got to be that? After me, Nas is in a new version of Rakim. He's his version of Rakim, not another version. You understand?

Yeah. So let's just motherfucking make some noise for that well listen you can follow me on instagram at mr. cream 9588 and I mean I got a single out called a Congo okay it's on every digital platform right now. You know, it's crazy. Please pick it up. For those, I don't know if a lot of people knew that Redman had DJed for Doss Effect back then too. No, I did not. Wow. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It's on YouTube. The original DJ we all went to Virginia State, but then I left. And he took your job as you left. Huh? Redman took your job as you left. No, no, no. Because at that time, Redman was in the process

doing his music and getting on. Right. So before Dots FX got signed or discovered, we was in Virginia State. So when they finally did get signed, I already had left Virginia State, came back to New York and DJed for Tim Dahl. So in that period, he already had got his deal and DOS, and he started DJing for DOS.

And then when the Hit Squad came, they found me. Another blessing. Dice. Yo, Pete Parish wants you, they wanna audition DJs. I'm gonna be honest. You're original, so. To this whole interview, you know what I mean? You lived all over the place. You like that nigga from Castaway, you like the ball.

You like Wilson in the Abbey way. Yeah, I fuckin' did. I ain way. Yeah, I fucking did. I ain't gonna lie, I did. I fucking lived a lot of fucking places. He did like all the elements. Let me find out you was in Rocksteady Crew too. I probably was. You got all the elements in you.

You are the true version. Let me just tell you, Rad. You are the true version of an MC. You are the true version. Let me just tell you, Brad. You are the true version of an MC. You are the true version of a good person. Every time I ever see you, you always... Let me tell you, before we get up out of here. You make me drink that Tiger Bone and we about to get the fuck up on out of here? Yo, come on, bro.

I could have saved that damn memory. Everywhere we ever been, you always gave me advice. It's only one time that you didn't give me advice. I think we were on tour, and I went on your tour bus, and you was like, you ain't play this game? I forget what game it was. And I came on

the tour bus, expecting him to teach me or something. We got on the game. I passed the blade. He just kept whipping my ass. I got on the game. I passed the blade. He just kept whipping my ass. I forget what it was. And I kept going like this. He's like, you got to hang on.

He wouldn't even smoke with me. I don't know. He just kicked my ass. And I said, damn, there's certain things your OG is not going to teach you. And he would not. But yo, you're a great person.

Hip hop has to continue to salute people like you. We gotta continue to salute our own. Salute our own kind. Because if we expect anybody else to salute us, then we're fucking idiots from the beginning. The thing about us, we need to have a hip hop union. People who've been involved with us from the beginning, meaning the enlightenment to hip hop

and what it brings to the culture, and this has got to keep being elevated. That's right. And the thing about it is this, if we don't bring up our own people, there's no one to be there. When I say our own people, I'm talking about hip hop. I ain't talking race, I ain't talking culture,

I'm talking hip hop, hip hop. So that can be, that can be, you know, Kit Frost, It can be MC Search. I don't feel like if you guys, you know, us put in these 10, 15 years of working, something happens to your family, I feel like hip-hop should come in and be responsible.

It's like any other job. We always said that, well, KRS tried to do that back in the day, man. That's what he wanted to do, man. He actually wanted to put something together where we can actually eat and actually have dental benefits. We are a fucking union. We are like a union.

We are a job. We do, we serve the public. So why shouldn't we get dental benefits from our label? Because you know why back then we didn't have Will Smith's and we didn't have Jay-Z's.

But now we do where we can help you know structure where it because you know for less of people you know I'm saying I'm gonna say that's good that was the worst word ever but people who didn't have as much success as others you know so saying because I don't feel like I feel like we both put in the same 20 years of hip-hop and you you know dedicated your life and I might have been a little bit more successful. Successful doesn't mean that I am more important. That's right. I feel like we should all be important.

Exactly. It's just like, you know, the brothers who got with you, he might be the hype man, he might be the DJ or whatever, but he put in the same 20 years, and if one of them gets sick, I feel like we should take care of them the same way we would take care of you if you get sick. That's right. And I feel like we should do that of them the same way we would take care of you if you get sick that's right hip hop and I feel like that we should do that because there's so many other corporations for me like fucking you know construction

you get something hit on your head and they'll fucking take care of you and hip hop somebody hit you in the head with a bottle you gotta deal with it you know what I'm saying or sue the club or sue the that shit ain't right so you know again man I want to thank you brothers I want to say one thing real quick on behalf of Miami as well. Growing up here, Miami hip hop kid in the early 90s,

you know, we was trying to rep just like how Jersey was battling the New York thing. Imagine in the South, you know, New York was late

to the South, but you were one of the few cats that came to the South, came to Miami, worked with Miami artists. Mother Superior, I had her at the show

last time we did the show on Blackbird. I just want to say good looking out thank you for that you know we appreciate you here you owe me some beats for that that damn song i did i do i do what's funny is man like i watched that uh hip-hop documentary on netflix man and understood y'all miami rap man how it started man that that was crazy as hell man y'all Miami rap, man, how it started, man. That shit was crazy as hell, man. Y'all started straight from bass music. Bass music. Y'all Sugar Hill gang was too live for them niggas.

Too live? I mean, there's a lot of history to Miami's hip-hop scene. Yeah, man. Like, you know, I learned a lot from that shit, man. Well, Redman, we want you to know, just in case anybody ain't never tell you, over here at Drink Chats, we love you. We love what you did to the culture. I'm glad I finally got the chance to do this, bitch.

Oh, man, listen. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Yo, shout out to Mr. Green for helping put this together. Yo, listen. Yo, no. Shout out to Cuz for putting it together. But I'm going to tell you something like this. As soon as this show started My brother called me about it

And I ain't going to lie man I was one of the first Me and Nori talked through the phone We ain't no industry friends We talked through the phone And when he started the show He wanted me on it And I'm just glad I got to do this for my nigga

Because I know Out of all people you know he had on the show he wanted his real brothers on it and I appreciate that my nigga like I gotta let them know like he was on me like directly no management he was on me like my nigga come through I did management too bro We hit up Jay He was on me my nigga from day one with this, and I'm glad to be a part of this bitch, and I took a drink for my nigga.

Just for this, my nigga. I'ma end it at this, because you know why? It's about time hip-hop started controlling hip-hop. We can't keep complaining and saying, you know, we can do this and do this, but we're not putting our own people in position to control it you understand what I'm saying it's like it's like what's my man name for the book of the mayor from Newark Cory Bunker we can't keep complaining about things that's happening in Newark unless we motherfucking get behind a person like that so it's the same thing with this culture like I believe that everything from our culture should come from our culture.

That's right. If you watch sports, it should come from Jadakiss. Mm-hmm. If you watch the news, it should come from Jim Jones. If you watch the motherfucking podcast, it should come from Drake Chaps. Thank you. Thank you.

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