Drink Champs - Episode 17 w/ Havoc (of Mobb Deep)

Episode Date: July 1, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Havoc of the legendary Queensbridge duo; Mobb Deep. They talk about past misunderstandings between Mobb Deep and CNN..., a possible Queens tour, Prince, working with Kanye West and more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun. This week on Dope Labs, Titi and I dive into the world of probiotics,
Starting point is 00:01:19 the hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing. With expert insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 00:02:04 It makes it real. It really them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Napa know-how. This month, get a five-quart jug of Napa full synthetic motor oil plus a Napa platinum oil filter for $21.98.
Starting point is 00:02:24 That's a pretty unbelievable deal, but trust us, it's totally real, but only for a limited time. So get Napa full synthetic and a Napa platinum oil filter for $21.98 today. Quality parts, helpful people. That's Napa know-how. General States pricing. Sales prices do not include applicable state, local taxes or recycling fees. Offer ends 4-30-19. Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brother? Drink Champs Radio.
Starting point is 00:02:52 He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N-O-R-E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast. This is Drinks Champ Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Let's go! Hey, Hank Segri, I hope you're savvy. This is your boy, N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drinks Champ, some motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! Make some noise! And right now, we have one of the members from one of the most legendary groups in hip hop.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He is also one of the best producers that ever lived. Thank you. Hands down. He is also the man behind everything that was produced there. He is also a very lioness type of person. He came to the lion's den. He didn't care about the rumors or none of that. He came. He flew out on his own dime.
Starting point is 00:04:00 He's a legend. I knew him from 12th Street. I knew him from back then. And he is in the house with the drink champs. In case you guys are confused or don't know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the legendary Havoc of Mobb Deep. Make some noise! I am very, listen, I'm very, this is one of my most exciting interviews
Starting point is 00:04:24 because I know our history and I know how cool we are. But I know how the Internet, you know, takes shit up and switching and bouncing. And the interesting thing about you is, like, I just recently got asked to do a show. It's called Hot Ones, right, where you do the hot wings. And I was like, yo, I wanted to change it up a little bit. I was like, yo, listen. That's a show? It's a show it's called it's on complex oh okay so um I was I was like yo I want to change it up a little bit tell them I'll do five wings that's real hot and I'll
Starting point is 00:04:53 do five of the strongest vodka in the world and I thought about it I was like half could have easily said that to me he could have said yo yeah I'll do it but I want to do it on this. And you did not. Let's make some noise for Ab, not B.S.K. God damn it. God damn it. This is my thing. So listen, you got one of the best hip-hop stories I ever, this beat, this is one of the best hip-hop stories I ever heard. You made shook ones off of the project stove?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah. He is very smart. How many other people have been cooking on a project stove and they make a dollar let me tell you something at that time people in Baisley people in 40 people were really listening to the project souls and and damn I didn't even think about that you didn't know no you said that but now I get what you mean oh that is the that is the
Starting point is 00:05:47 before you light it yeah right before you light it you know what I'm saying before it come on and all of that you know so let me ask you
Starting point is 00:05:53 did you think of the beat when you heard that nah you know I was just in the fucking projects you know broke as fuck and just like
Starting point is 00:06:01 want something like I just gotta make some shit so you know the stove inspired me you know what I mean once I'm like, I just gotta make some shit. So, you know, the stove inspired me. You know what I mean? So, I was like, yeah, let me throw this into the beat
Starting point is 00:06:10 and, you know, whatever. This is after the first album. This is after the first album. Yeah, Juvenile Hell. I never really considered Juvenile Hell. I never even,
Starting point is 00:06:19 I never think about it. We consider it over here. No doubt. So, I always be like, you know what I'm saying, the Infamous album was like my first album. And the Juvenile Hell is like the miscarriage.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Which Primo executive produced it, right? He produced it. Yeah. Say that again? DJ Premier, he executive produced it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he, no, he didn't executive produce it, but he really helped us out. Like, we wasn't nobody.
Starting point is 00:06:42 He didn't know us. Are you talking about the Infamous album? No. No, the Juvenile Hell. He didn't know us. Were you talking about the Infamous album? No. No, dog. Oh, you did not have, okay. He didn't know us. Come here, something to do with that? Yeah, he used to drive out to...
Starting point is 00:06:49 Let me look at the... Oh, listen, listen. You be like, no. Let me look at the... You be like, no. Let me look at the... Let me look at the... Let me look at the...
Starting point is 00:06:57 God damn it! I gotta look at the credits. God damn it. Heaven's a fucking legend. Oh, man. That is so dope, man. That is so dope, man. That is so dope. That was our first album right there.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So you produced this on this as well? Nah, I got my first taste of production on there. I really didn't know how to produce at that time. Right. So I just did like, you know, one or two songs on there. Yeah, because you went into art and design, so that means you're very smart. Not smart, but artistic. Let's make some noise for this nigga.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Art and design is a prestigious school. That's a prestigious school, my brother. I'm from the town. I know what this is. So when did you start producing? Like, what happened? Back when a producer asked me for, we asked for a beat from a known producer. RZA?
Starting point is 00:07:43 I seen RZA. Not RZA, but I'm not going to blow his name up, whoever it was. I should. We petty on drink checks. Right. Take another drink. Take another drink. The more that you drink, the more petty you get.
Starting point is 00:07:53 We need you to get petty right now, Hab. Come on. All right. No, but I love this guy to death. But P-Rock asked us for like 25 grand. P-Rock. And our budget was only 60,000. And he asked us for like 25 grand and our budget was only 60,000 and he asked us for 25,000 I was like fuck it I'm gonna make my own beats for real that's how it started that's how
Starting point is 00:08:13 it started wow but during what not during this project during this project during no during uh nah it was that project it was that project because I seen RZA the label, and he said that you asked him for a beat. Oh, yeah, definitely. He told you to keep making your own beats. Like, fuck him. Yeah, he inspired me, too. He was like, no, no, no, go ahead, make your own shit. And then I was like, all right, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Then I made my own shit. I didn't even know how to make beats, really. Like, you know what I'm saying? I just was like, just watching people. Because, you know, you from Left Rack. Large Pro's from over there So I used to go over there To large pro crib
Starting point is 00:08:48 Wow And then watch him make beats And whenever I used to Ask him questions Like yo how you do that He'd be like Like chill Like chill
Starting point is 00:08:55 Don't ask questions Just watch So I used to just watch Large pro do beats Q-tip do beats And Q-tip had to do With the Infamous album Right
Starting point is 00:09:04 And he And you learn from The best in the game God damn it I mean you know Q-Tip do beats. And Q-Tip had to do with the Infamous album, right? Right, right. And you learned from the best in the game. God damn it. I mean, you know, Q-Tip was ill. And he, like, we didn't have no money back then. So, you know, they was just willing to help us. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Just from the buzz of Juvenile Hell? It wasn't no buzz. It wasn't no buzz? I mean, there had to be. Look, I got it in Florida. I got this in Miami. I mean, now it's a buzz. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:28 That was our first album, but it wasn't no buzz. I got this before Shook Ones and all that. Right. I mean, but it was cool. Let's make some noise for EFM. Project Hallway. Oh, hip hop. Yo, hip hop.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Like, we was bumping it. Yo, listen, he gave KRS-One a tennis ball from 19, what year was it? Nah, man, you making me laugh. From, like, 1993 or something. From 1943. Before KRS was born, he gave it to his boys. Look, KRS, you signed this for me and shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:58 This is my man, man. Yo, so, you guys, you worked with Biggie Smalls. Right. How was that? I mean, it was pretty cool. You know what I mean? We had just dropped, you know what I worked with Biggie Smalls. Right. How was that? I mean, it was pretty cool. You know what I mean? We had just dropped, you know what I'm saying, the Infamous album, and he was working on Life After Death. So, Puff hit me up.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He was like, yo, I need some tracks for whatever, blah, blah, blah. But it's a strange story that happened, because I sent Puff some beats, and then we actually did it in the studio. The beat that I did, it got lost. Whatever he paid for, and Puff is like a gangster. He was like, yo, where's the track I paid for? We've been hearing that. I was like, yo, I don't got it. He was like, well, you're going to make this beat right there.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You're going to do it over. So then I had to recollect it and just do it over now what beat was that oh living to my last days getting money to own that long kiss good night the ones with the locks on it yeah on the lap and you just did famous you got something to do with that with the Kanye shit right the video was wild yeah I spent like like Six months in Cali Working on the album With Kanye Get the hell out of here
Starting point is 00:11:11 I spent that time out there I only got like One and a half tracks on there But it was worth it You're killing me Just smoke already Go back to blunt You ain't smoking tonight Lose your currency get your placement. You're killing me. You're killing me. Just smoke already, man. Go back to blunt. Smoke.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You ain't smoked since the 90s. You're killing me. Look at your currency. You influenced me, currency. I'm over here smoking a roll of comb. You don't want me
Starting point is 00:11:34 to smoke that. Nah, nah, nah. So you used to drink E&J back in the day. Mm-hmm. The original drink champ. Yeah, yeah. Word.
Starting point is 00:11:41 E&J, would you say that was the worst days of your life? That was, uh... What'd you say?., would you say that was the worst days of your life? That was, uh... What'd you say? The worst? The worst. Like, yo, you was bad back then.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I'd say that was, like, the roughest days of my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Queensbridge. We used to wake up drinking that shit. Listen, I went to Queensbridge one time, like, 11 o'clock in the morning. A lot of people don't know this. The first time I met you wasn't through Capone. It was through Twin.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Me and twin was locked up in sparfing big up to twin from Queensbridge my nigga big twin make some noise I came and you guys got shook ones you got the number one record in the world you sitting on the bench you on top of the bench you just down a bottle of E&J and just fall and everybody like oh shit I was like yo this nigga's a rock star this was the dopest shit in the world with me like to see and you was you was at that time you was dead up still living in the hood and you you had the number one record you could have bounced like after i made money i was like i thought about you i was like that nigga really stayed like you duked it out for a while for a a little second, I duped it out.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Did you save at least what you was in the hood? Did I save? Save the bread if you... Oh, save money? Nah, we was spending that shit. We was spending that. Yo, but yo, that was ill. Like, that was my first experience.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Like, I came to Queensbridge, and I seen you the first day. I remember Twain introducing us, but I remember that shit was like ill to me, like to see that you was really still out there, like, and you was rich, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you had money coming in. Young niggas had shows. That record was everywhere. Yeah, because you know what it was?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Like, because when you living in the projects, exactly like where you come from or whatever, when you got respect, you don't feel like going anywhere. You know what I'm saying? You got that respect. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying like I was a gangster or anything like that, but I just had that Going anywhere You know what I'm saying You got that respect You know what I'm saying I'm not saying Like I was a gangster Or anything like that
Starting point is 00:13:26 But I just had that respect You know what I'm saying Out there And I could have money Jury Or still be in the hood You know what I mean It's respect
Starting point is 00:13:34 Some niggas get money And they gotta leave Because they don't got no respect You know what I'm saying So I stayed out there For a reasonable amount of time You know what I'm saying And then
Starting point is 00:13:43 And then what made you What was the final step where you said, I got to get the fuck up out of here? Because I used to come in the crib like around, you know, 4 o'clock in the morning, 5 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And Badgy Moe was out there? Yeah, Badgy Moe was there. Badgy Moe was out there? Badgy Moe was the wild crackhead that knocked you the fuck out. And he knocked you out. Yeah, he knocked you out. And he knocked you out.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's wild. But shit like that. Yeah, but you know, after a while, it's like you can't dangle me in front of wolves for too long.
Starting point is 00:14:10 So I was just like, yo, you know, let me just go. Because you know what it was why it took me so long? Because I was scared. You know what I'm saying? I always lived in projects,
Starting point is 00:14:17 living on my own. You know what I'm saying? And then the lyric you said, no matter how much loot I get, I gotta stay true to that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was wild at half
Starting point is 00:14:25 Right But You know So You know I was a little scared So I was like You know
Starting point is 00:14:31 Fuck it I just went out on my own Became a grown man I was like Fuck it I gotta get my own You know what I'm saying Get on some grown man shit
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah you can't You was way too big of an artist Way too big And you But your block is famous Like people gotta know 12th Street. Ron Artest is the next building from you.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Right. This is correct, right? That is correct. It's half building, Ron Artest building, and then Capone's building. Right, and Capone's building right there. And all of our families was all cool with each other. This is crazy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:01 All of our families. So when I see Ron Ron on TV, Ron Artest on TV, like, you know, on the- We're supposed to be calling him Metal World Peace, but we calling him Ron Ron. We calling him Ron Ron. Nigga, your mama need you, Ron Ron. We calling you Ron Ron. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. You know, so when I see him and stuff like that, it's not like a thing where we be like,
Starting point is 00:15:20 yo, oh shit, he from my project. Nah, we all know each other. Like, it's like really family. I seen Ron Ron in Club Live with Nas. He pulled out a 1989 Nokia phone and took a picture. I said, slime, you got to snap it up. Slime. You got beeper people phones, man.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I got beeper people phones, man. We got the same thing with Gunblade. And KRS-One. I'm still looking for you, KRS-One, to give you a fucking phone. What kind of phone do you have? He had a beeper. He had a beeper. He still had a beeper.
Starting point is 00:15:47 He was dead serious, though. No, he did say that. He did say that. He said he has a beeper. But it don't work no more. No. No, I think it does. Apparently, that's not.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Listen, you can't get KRS-One direct. Him and Rakim is hard niggas to just reach direct. You got to hit the person to person. And then that person. Has to beep that person. Yeah, they beep him. And be and you know they get on ships and shit like that let's make some noise for krs and god damn it for him not responding to that ship dock in spain but that block in 12th street you have ron ron um like i we used to like when i was out there and i used to play ball we used to um think of ron ron as a butch like he was out there and I used to play ball, we used to think of Ron Ron as a butch.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like, he was the guy who came in to thug things out. Right. He really made it. Like, did you know that from the beginning? I mean, his father used to have him. No, his pops was real. His pops was a real nigga, yeah. You saw it before.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You was on the block. His pops used to have him out there. And his brother. 20 degree weather. Yes. Playing ball on the block. Yes, this is true. And his father knocking him down like this, so you already knew
Starting point is 00:16:50 that when he did make, I didn't think he was going to make it, but when he did make it, I was like, oh, of course. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of similar to Serena Williams and Venus Williams' story with Ron Ron. Like, Ron Ron, it was made to be tough. Like, people don't think that like, you know, he's in the NBA and, you know. No, his pops did that. Like, Ron Ron, it was made to be tough. Like, people would think that, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:05 he's in the NBA and, you know. No, his pops did that. Like, he is a rude, like, nigga on that court, what I mean by, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, his pops taught him to be the toughest dude.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like, his pops was a man's man. Word. You know what I'm saying? Word. And when you see him on the court when he was doing his thing, it's not a mistake. You know what I'm saying? You'd be like, oh, shit the court when he was doing his thing, it's not a mistake. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:25 You'd be like, oh, shit. Like, people think that he's crazy, but he's not crazy. He was just made to play that way. Right. And, you know. Right. So now, Juvenile Hell came out before Illmatic, correct? Yeah, it did.
Starting point is 00:17:37 It did. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It did. So did you see Nas recording Illmatic at any point? By the time he was recording Illmatic, me and him wasn't really hanging with each other no more because he was just, Columbia just grabbed him. Wait, so you were messing with him during Juvenile Hell? Yeah, because we was teenagers together
Starting point is 00:17:54 before even Juvenile Hell came out. You know what I'm saying? So we used to hang out. Y'all went to 204 together? No, I never went to 204. You never went to 204? No. Queensbridge niggas, make some noise for 204.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Everybody in Queensbridge. Nobody from Queensbridge here. We have to assume that's a school. We all know from New York. We don't know what 204 is. 204 was the school to go to. It was the school to go to. We said it in Body and the Trump, me and I.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I went to 125. I went to Sunset Senior High. You went to 125? I went to 125. I went to 125, nigga. In Woodside. 46 and Bliss. Second line, nigga. Come on. What are you talking about, nigga? Holy moly guacamole. I went to 125, nigga. In Woodside. 46 and Bliss. Second line, nigga.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Come on. What are you talking about, nigga? Holy moly guacamole. How y'all never saw each other? How we never saw each other, man? That's crazy. That's crazy. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Right there on the sunny side. Yeah, that's how I met Queensborough. Yo, so you're fucking my head up. Yeah, I was from Left Frack. I got kicked out of all the schools in Corona, Left Frack, East Elmhurst area. And they sent you to 125? Yeah, I got kicked out of 227, kicked out of IS61. I got kicked out of another school.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Then they sent me to Ridgewood. I knew they was preparing me for jail because there was no women in there. I was like, yo, hold up. They said, this is a 600 school. They gave me one more chance.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And I had to go to IS125, 46 and Bliss on the 7th line. Yeah, 46 and Bliss. That's the stop. 46 and Bliss. You get out And the two niggas I met Was Kayam Capone Holly
Starting point is 00:19:08 Right Which is Capone Right And LJ A dude named LJ LJ Also from 12th Street Also from 12th Street
Starting point is 00:19:16 See I'm an honorary 12th Street member Can you tell these niggas I'm an honorary I'm an honorary 12th Street From Queens Listen listen
Starting point is 00:19:23 I'm honorary Let me tell you something When I first met Nori And Nori was like Hanging around And stuff like that He was almost like It was like
Starting point is 00:19:32 He was from there Like for real Nah y'all accepted me Like he was like From there He just came in He fit in You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:19:41 Or whatever Whatever But I was locked up with Twin Yup And Lincoln And Lincoln No and Swaffy Swaffy You know what I'm saying Or whatever Whatever But I was locked up with Twin Yep And Lincoln And Lincoln No and Sparfit
Starting point is 00:19:49 Sparfit baby Sparfit yes We was eating Now Laters That's a fact Now Laters is like gold And Sparfit Make some noise For y'all niggas
Starting point is 00:19:56 That never been to Sparfit God damn it God damn it Make some noise Yo yo come on The crowd is whack Alright Yeah so
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yo y'all history Is so crazy So you and P Cause P is Originally from Long Island Y'all connected Okay Go ahead
Starting point is 00:20:12 Queen P is from Originally from From what I know He's from like Queens Right And then his
Starting point is 00:20:19 Grandmother lived in Long Island You can't just say Queens Like Left rack Left rack My bad My bad My bad So say Queens. Left rack. Left rack. My bad. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:20:26 My bad. Go ahead. My bad. So he was from left rack from what I knew. Yeah, because back then we used to call him Pee Wee. Right, and we called him that too. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So he was from left rack. Why y'all call him Pee Wee? Hold on, we forcing because Havoc is here. Is Amanda here? Is Amanda here? Where's Amanda? Oh, can I get another drink?
Starting point is 00:20:43 We forcing. Let's shout out. Havoc from Marbebe is here. We got bartenders. Shout out to Best Buy Liquors. Yo, I told Hav outside, I said, I can't front. It's the first time. But I said, does it look good?
Starting point is 00:20:53 He said, yeah, I think it's looking good. We got servers. It's looking good. We got pretty girls pouring drinks. Shout out to homies, Best Buy Liquors. Yo, let's shout out to Best Buy Liquors for providing not only the liquor, but they provided the females, because Havavoc is here and he's a very special guest. He's a classic guy.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And they got a spot in Kendall. They got a spot, two spots in Kendall. Naranja. I don't know how to pronounce that. What's that called? That's the hood, Naranja. Yeah, Naranja. That sounds like orange, but it's Spanish.
Starting point is 00:21:20 It is in Spanish. Uh-huh. But it's the hood. And Cutler Bay. Cutler Bay, yeah. And Cutler Bay. They got the liquor. So, Hab, whenever you out there, Best Buy Liquors, man. What's their Instagram?
Starting point is 00:21:30 At Best Buy Liquors. Right, D? Is that what it is? At Best Buy Liquors, man. Definitely. They're holding us down. So, Hab, man, you know, so you said he was originally from Left Frank. Oh, shit. The police. The police. This is not a false alarm. alarm oh they kept it moving they wanted to stop it was weird it was weird
Starting point is 00:21:49 it was weird and we don't have we're not friends it's the first time we ever had police now the second time you remember that i wasn't oh i wasn't here we're not faking we're not faking, we are scared. Last week we had the same issue. You wasn't here? I wasn't there when the police pulled up. I heard them. Oh, they pulled up, likes and all.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Likes and all. So you guys were what age when you connected? When I first met Pee, I was 15. Wait, wait, wait, y'all didn't say it. Why y'all call him Pee-wee? Come on, we don't know. Y'all talking like family and shit. Because he was short.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He was short, he was short. But I met him when I was 15. Right. I met him in high school, whatever, whatever. He used to have mad jewelry on. Hair was blonde. You know what I'm saying? Blonde?
Starting point is 00:22:34 Wait, he had blonde hair? You know how back in the days Kwame used to... Yeah, yeah. The streets or the whole thing? Everybody did it. He had the whole thing. He used to call him the golden child. Get out of here with this shit. I like that shit.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You should do the heroin with me. Come on, let's do it. But he was a cool-ass nigga, though. You know what I'm saying? And we connected. Right. And then, so, when y'all met, was it instantly like, yo, he told you he does music? Or, like, how was it initially when y'all first met?
Starting point is 00:22:58 Nah, because we used to be in the lunchroom, and they used to be freestyling at the tables. He was one of them that was freestyling. I used to freestyle, the lunchroom and they used to be freestyling at the tables He was one of them as freestyle and I used to freestyle blah blah blah and then soon as we met It was like instant friends like instant friends like instant You know me and and he was rapping at the time on yeah, because I heard um, you wrote his first one Oh, I mean he used to he used to have his own rhymes and stuff like that But you know we got a deal and stuff like that, you know, I used to write and whatever. He didn't need it. But take the credit, Hal. Go ahead. You wrote Pete's first rhyme.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Good damn it. Harry, come on, people. Why did you judge me? Come on, come on. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to
Starting point is 00:23:46 you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:24:32 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley
Starting point is 00:25:04 comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's
Starting point is 00:25:19 bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch.
Starting point is 00:26:26 What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. This Pride Month, we are not just celebrating. We're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson, and my book, All Boys Aren't Blue, was just named the most banned book in America. If the culture wars have taught me anything, it's that pride is protest.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And on my podcast, Fighting Words, we talk to people who use their voices to resist, disrupt, and make our community stronger. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do. and make our community stronger. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us, and I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive.
Starting point is 00:27:38 You'll hear from trailblazers like Bob the Drag Queen. To freedom! Angelica Ross. We ready to fight? I'm ready to fight. And Gabrielle Yoon. Hi, George. And storytellers with wisdom to spare. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Listen, man, you're going to loosen up. You got to keep drinking. You want another drink? Amanda, look, I'm flossing. I'm taking it slow. Amanda is very pretty. She's on the podcast. She's from Best Buy Liquors. We're trying to show off what you have. Yeah, we've never done this before. We never had this. We never had. She's from Best Buy Liquors. We're trying to show off what you have. Yeah, we've never done this. We've never had this. This is Best Buy Liquors. We're pulling all the stops.
Starting point is 00:28:11 We're pulling all the stops for you, man. Y'all the illest though, man. I love this show. So listen, Father's Day just passed. How many abortions you paid for in your life? How many what? It's not like you said Bostons. Abortions? Yeah, abortions. How many abortions I paid for in my life? Yeah, abortions.
Starting point is 00:28:25 How many abortions I paid for in my life? Keep it real now. To keep it real, I would say like two. Like two? Like two. I got to disagree with you. I got to say like two. How many?
Starting point is 00:28:35 Did you answer that question? No, I just heard. You just heard? How many abortions you paid for? I'm up there. I might be in the double digits. Damn. In the night?
Starting point is 00:28:43 You ain't paid for the professional ones, man. In the night. You're the unprofessional one. With the hangers and shit like that? No,s. You ain't paying for the professional ones, man. In the 90s. You're the unprofessional one. With the hangers and shit like that? No, no, no. You was like, come here, let's wrestle. Havoc for Marthie.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You were like the first Wesley Snipes at one point. Like, you was like the hip-hop version. You was knocking down a lot of things. I mean, that's a misconception. Back in the days. Back in the days. It's not, we ain't talking about nothing new. Back in the days? Mm-hmm. You was knocking down a lot of things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You was knocking down a lot. And you only paid for two abortions? Only two. Because listen, my experience is, if you're dark-skinned and you're from 12th Street. It's powerful? You're a freak. Yeah. If you're dark-skinned and you're from 12th Street, you're a freak. If you're dark-skinned and you're from 12th Street, you're a freak. Make some noise for me knowing what's going on in Queens Ridge, Florida. It is kind of true.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It is kind of true. It's Capone from 12th Street. Yeah, he's a freak. He's a freak. Me and Capone got another story. That's another show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm in love.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I should have had the poem called up. So let's get to these rumors, right? A lot of people, they sent this email that came out. Right. And me and Hav, what people don't know, before the book was wrote, before everything, me and you, you came out here. You brought my prodigy book?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah, yes. You came out here. You brought my prodigy book? Yeah, yes. You came out here. You hung with me in Miami. Everything was cool. You brought me out for your birthday party. That's right. For my birthday party. We're going to get back to the birthday party. Right? But this email came out. It existed, right? It was a show
Starting point is 00:30:19 that happened in Orlando. Okay. And my DJ Butch Rock. Big up Butch Rock. Shut up Butch. The promoter hit him and said, he booked us, I guess he sent y'all half, and then he was sending us a half, and then this email comes out, they said,
Starting point is 00:30:36 Mobb Deep didn't want to do a show if CNN is in the building. Okay, do you believe that? Yeah, I do believe that. Wow. I mean, but this, okay, I do believe that. Wow. Okay, I ain't even going to go deep. But anyway, you know what I'm saying? I kind of heard about that.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You heard about that? I kind of heard about that. But for the record, you definitely have nothing to do with not wanting to do a show with CNN. With Nori and Capone? With Nori and Capone. Look, I'm going to say, look, we're going to throw it on the table. Albert, Victor, Kiwan, and Kyan.
Starting point is 00:31:11 There you go. We know each other. But was you disturbed by the email? Because I could tell it wasn't you. I could tell it wasn't you. I know you. I was definitely, I didn't see the email But I heard about the situation
Starting point is 00:31:28 And I was like Yeah what the fuck I was like You know No random not coming But a lot of times Certain shit be out of my hands Cause I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:31:35 Cause if you gonna pay me You know what I'm saying I'ma be at the show Wherever You know what I'm saying I don't care Who's even fucking there I don't care
Starting point is 00:31:43 You know what I'm saying Cause you know But I just Cause? Right. Because, you know. Because I just had to want to kill that rumor because at the end of the day, you know, Nas is, they're alluding to the Nas, Capone, and Noriega mob deep talk. Is that not the crazy? That needs to happen. Did you hear this rumor? That needs to happen.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I heard that rumor. Right. You heard that rumor. I heard that rumor. Let's make some noise for the rumor, goddammit. Let's make some noise for the rumor. That's how you do reality. I heard that rumor. Right, you heard that rumor. Let's make some noise for the rumor, goddammit. Let's make some noise for the rumor. That shit had to be reality. I heard that rumor.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But you know what? That could become reality. He was ready to give me $500,000, and I couldn't get in contact with y'all at one point. That's my word. See, you know now. That's my word. See, now I'm about to choke you. That's my word.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm like, hold on. You know what I mean? I hit ice. I hit ice. Right. Yeah, I hit ice. But you didn't hit me. Yeah, that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's a fact. Let's make some noise for me not hitting the half. God damn it. But, you know, because this is real shit. Because us, when we live in this internet world, that's why I got to really respect you for this. You know what I'm saying? For you taking your time out. And obviously, you here to dead that room boy.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You here to say that. Yo, listen. And he reached out. And he reached out, man. I called y'all. That's right. Not even called. On Instagram.
Starting point is 00:32:58 No, you reached out. That was me. And I hit him. Yo, my dude. I hit you first. Yeah. Right. Then I hit him. Right. Then I was like, you got to have me on And I hit him. Yo, my dude, I really... I hit you first. Yeah. Right. Then I hit him.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Right. Then I was like, you got to have me on the show. Yes. I really, really, really respect that move. So I just wanted the people to know that for people who think there's a mob deep Capone and Noriega beef, there is not. I mean, there was... Whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Back then. But we ain't talking about that. But to keep it real, keep it real It's like okay You know what I'm saying All families and crews Have a little friction Going on Or whatever
Starting point is 00:33:30 But it's nothing That never Can't get fixed You understand what I'm saying So it's like Whatever Let me salute you Glass for that
Starting point is 00:33:36 Let me salute you Glass for that And Havoc came man I ain't gonna lie I am mad impressed That he came Make some noise To Havoc And he told me He said And I told you He said I ain't gonna lie I am mad impressed That he came Make some noise To have it good
Starting point is 00:33:45 And he told me He said And I told you He said I'm a little scared Of your questioning But I said You know what
Starting point is 00:33:51 Fuck it Because you know What it is See people People forget about The picture When I was in New Rochelle
Starting point is 00:33:56 And you came No question You ain't send me This record And who did I come with Who did I come with Don't lament it You came
Starting point is 00:34:04 You came with security this time. Smart move. Make some noise for security. What's your name, nigga? What's your name, nigga? We don't know who you are. Big Tim? I don't know if I should say that.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I seen a lot of niggas in the video, so I was like, yo, I got to bring somebody with me. Big Tim. Oh, okay. Bigger Big Tim from Flushing. So now, you don't know how much I respect that because this room will need to be the rest. And I feel like me, you, Nas, Mobb Deep, Capone, and Noriega, I feel like that's something that we should do because we're not like fake friends. Like, I really know you. You really know me.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I really know Prodigy. Prodigy really know me. You really know Kiem. Right. Like, I know him and P-Shit, but listen, Capone is not going to do nothing. Not like I'm the boss of Capone, but that's over. Like, Prodigy,
Starting point is 00:34:50 let's put that shit to the side and let's start over, man. But even Pone, he was respectful about it. Even Pone said it. He said he just wanted to talk about it. And listen, he just wanted to confront the situation.
Starting point is 00:34:59 He just wanted to pay attention because if we said any more deep slander, you wouldn't have came here and you would have known about it. There's no more deep slander. And we talk to a million people back. And any time, you know what I'm saying, I see you on one of our boy ones. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:13 You have me saying shit. I always take it in a playful manner. I'm playing. Like, I am. See, here's the deal. Let me just get you to the point. Prodigy was my man. Like, me and you hung out a whole lot But me and P
Starting point is 00:35:26 Just you know when I found out His left rack ties I kind of took a liking to him And you know what I mean And me and P hung out so much So the book threw me off I'm going to be honest this is me I didn't read the book
Starting point is 00:35:40 I know High five I never seen you big up the book or nothing like that But we'll get to that later right So the book. I know. High five. Crazy. I've never seen you big up the book or nothing like that. But we'll get to that later, right? So, the book comes out. I kind of took it as just a little disrespect because I felt like I would never speak about that situation. I never made
Starting point is 00:35:55 records about that situation. You talking about the shooting? Yeah, the shooting. Yes, yes, yes. I didn't shoot at you half. You know what I'm saying? Like, that day, I shot around you. Did you know I shot at you that day? I was in the studio. I was in the studio. No, you was there.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I was there. Big up to Norian. That was the second shoot. That was the second shoot. But what I'm saying is I never No, no, I purposely would never shoot at Havoc or Prodigy.
Starting point is 00:36:25 That's my word. But I was shooting at other niggas. They jumped me. At the Q Club. They jumped me. But I never spoke about it. I never got money off of it. So for him to put it in a book, it kind of, and at the end of the day, if you throw my
Starting point is 00:36:37 name in the air, you, the thing about it is, it's going to go up, but you got to, you can't control where it lands. You might throw it up and just want to catch it. At that time, I was sitting back. I was like, nah, I'm not letting this go. And I'm going to tell my side of the story.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Do you think I took it too far when I was going at him? Going at who? Prodigy. I mean, you're your own man. You got to do what you got to do. I like your answer. God damn it. Havoc is on the offside.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Havoc is on the offside. Havoc is on the offside. He's officially drink champ. You want to smoke a blunt now? I'm going to smoke a blunt. Not yet. I'm going to smoke a blunt. Want some heroin?
Starting point is 00:37:18 But nah, but you know when all that shit was going down and all that crazy shit, it's like, come on, man. That shit was like, what, 20 years ago on man that shit was like what 20 years ago yeah definitely man definitely and I would never wanted to disrespect people like you know Karate Joe you know yeah that's why I never made a rap about that I remember that was brought up in the public the book yeah that's the first time and I'm gonna keep it real I spoke to P and P said um yo I got you in the book, but it was no disrespect. So I was like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So I'm looking forward to this shit. Then the shit hits me from the background, and I'm like, damn. So if you use my name, I got a choice to like it or not like it. I didn't like it. So I had a choice, and I responded the way I did. But it was all in jokes. It was all in fun. And I'm glad that you came here.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I'm glad you, because you know what? Out of us, Capone and Noriega and Mobb D, I'm going to give you be the bravest one to come through and step forward and put this rumor to a motherfucking rest. Because you could have been any place in the world tonight. Of course. But you chose to the world tonight. Of course. But you chose to be here tonight.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And I want to say, make some fucking noise! We're going to get this money, man. Happy, we're going to get this money, man. And mind you, when he hit us up, when he hit at least the Dream Champs Instagram,
Starting point is 00:38:41 he didn't hit us up to be on the show. He was just saying, yo, y'all doing your thing. Like, he was just showing love humbly. I really, I really... Which is dope.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So you got a new project, right? Let's talk about this new project here. Yes, yes. Let's put that in front of your face. Alchemist. Alchemist.
Starting point is 00:38:55 How did y'all meet Alchemist? They met Alchemist and then I met him later. Who's they? People at college talking about? Twin, Godfather. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:05 You know what I mean? They met Alchemist, and then I met him later. And I was like, oh shit, the nigga nice. You know what I'm saying? So I knew him ever since. Right. And what's the first beat y'all collaborated on, you and Alchemist? Me and him?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Mm-hmm. Oh, shit, man. Y'all been working for a minute, though. No, but we never really collaborated on no beats. We never, it's either you gave me a- Not him producing for Y'all been working for a minute though Nah but we never really collaborated on no beats We never It's either Not him producing for y'all Nah he
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah like he did shit Like since like what 99 to 2000 or something Started doing stuff for us Stuff like that So you know I took a like to him And I was like you know
Starting point is 00:39:41 I don't be You know I'm not like a hog over the beats and shit. I was like, oh shit, you got a nigga that do beats? Come on, let's do some beats. And he happened to just be nice. Now, did Tragedy name you? Yes, he did. Indeed. Let's make some noise for Tragedy, man. He been going through it on this show. Where does that name come from? What's all that about?
Starting point is 00:40:01 I met Tragedy back in 88 when he first came home. I guess he was locked up for like three years. Traj loved it. Traj, Gaddafi or whatever. Intelligent hoodlum. Yeah, that's like my mentor. You know what I mean? He used to bring me to WBLS and all these other little stations and stuff like that, to Marley Marr House. And I didn't have a rap name.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And I was like, yo, you know, I don't got a rap name. And he was like, I'm going to give you one of my names. So name was Havoc Trash Tragedy Tragic and then he just gave me Havoc wow and what year was this 88 wow 1988 damn well we open it up to Serac make some noise for Amanda being on point so what was your most memorable session you ever had? My most memorable session that I ever had being in the studio? The most memorable session that I ever had being in the studio was when we was working on Hello Nerf. And I got there first to the studio. P came second.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He had just bought a new car Tahoe or something like that And then he let the rest of them Go get some trees And then maybe a half an hour later Or an hour later We found out that Some of the crew got into a car accident And two of them died
Starting point is 00:41:22 I know that you're talking about Twin, God bless the dead Twin. Godfather was driving. Yeah, he was driving. So what session was that? What music was that? So we did Godfather Part 3? We was doing Hell on Earth.
Starting point is 00:41:33 We was doing the Hell on Earth album. Wow. And so that's the most memorable session that I ever had. That's not good memorable. Nah, I mean, but it's memorable. Right, right, right. Prodigy had a warrant and the police was calling his phone. He was like, yo, should I answer now?
Starting point is 00:41:57 I was like, nigga, man, because Godfather already called us and said, yo, man, niggas is hurt. Niggas is hurt. Then the police is calling next. Now, I hear it. Godfather was, like, the only one, was like the only one who had no cuts, nothing, and everybody else. It's always the drivers that always be the one
Starting point is 00:42:09 that don't really obtain any injuries. Right. But two people died and two others were critically injured, but they lived. And did I hear
Starting point is 00:42:19 that rumor correct? Like they hit a cone? Was it a cone? You know when you're on the West Side Highway Yeah, West Side And you're driving uptown And you're getting off of 125th Street
Starting point is 00:42:29 125th They got that little divider That's like only this big Right You know what I mean? So if you miss your exit But you're trying to get back on And you're doing 70 miles per hour
Starting point is 00:42:38 The car gonna flip over Right So that's what happened Damn, God bless, man Yeah, God I remember that time, man Yeah, so that was definitely One of the most memorable studio moments. I remember that time, 12th Street.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And another memorable moment. A good one. Let's get a positive one. No, no. You took us mad sad right there. I hate to give you one. No, but another memorable one was when we was working on Murder Music. And we was in Electric Lady right there on West 8th
Starting point is 00:43:06 or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I had came back and one of my homies was like, yo, Prince is out there. I was like, get the fuck out of here. Oh, shit. So he went and got Prince.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Prince the Rewind, Rewind. Hold on, you about to tell me you met Prince? Yes. Go ahead. Start it all over, start it all over. Start it all over.
Starting point is 00:43:22 He is in that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never been in the vicinity of this nigga. Nah, so. Look at him. Word. I never been in there. And that's how I feel about Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:43:31 So anyway, so we in the studio and one of my homeboys was like, yo, Prince is out there. I was like, get the fuck out of here. He was like, hell yeah, I'll bring that nigga in. He mad cool. He fucking brought Prince in the studio. Now, I'm about this. Now, Electric Lady, remember, this is Jimi Hendrix. Now, I'm about this tour. Now, Electric Lady, remember, this is Jimi Hendrix. Now, I'm about this tour.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Prince is like this. And he had heels on? Did he always have heels on? No, he just had what he got on. He didn't have heels, number one. He wanted heels. Prince should have on heels. Not heels, not heels.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Maybe platforms. So I was making a beat. And then I was like, holy shit, Prince. Did you play your beat? Wait, he just hung out at that point? Yeah, I was like, yo, is there anything I need to do to the beat? He was like, hold on. That nigga got on the keyboard and he started, I swear to God. He's on a record, though?
Starting point is 00:44:20 He was that cool, yo. Did he get on a record? Did he get on your beat? Yes. And then Snoop rhymed on the beat. And then Snoop rhymed on the beat. And then Snoop rhymed on the beat. And this record came out? It came out.
Starting point is 00:44:31 What record is this? It's called Thou Shalt Not Kill. Listen to it. Oh, my God. Let's make some noise for this. But no credits to Prince on this. No credits to Prince.
Starting point is 00:44:42 He probably walked away and said, don't give me credit. So when did he play the keys? The nigga walked down and didn't even say bye. How about that? Fuck the credit. He was like. Poof.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Oh, my God. Purple smoke. Oh, my God. I'm like, no way. Purple smoke. Yo, because producers live the illest life. Like, producers live the illest life. Let's just keep it real.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It's okay. No, no, no. Producers live the illest life. Like, producers live the illest life. Let's just keep it real. It's okay. No, no, no. Producers live the illest life, right? I mean, because you guys not only get to make your own project,
Starting point is 00:45:12 but you get to go out there. Like, with the big, you wasn't there when Big laid the vocals? Nah, I wasn't there when Big laid the vocals. Who was you there that blown you away
Starting point is 00:45:21 that laid your vocals, laid their vocals on one of your beats? Lil' Kim and Foxy. Together? No, no, no. They weren't together. I'm about to say,
Starting point is 00:45:32 nigga, where this record at? Nah, but I saw them each time, you know what I'm saying? Like, when I was working with Foxy, I seen her lay her vocals
Starting point is 00:45:40 and then I seen Lil' Kim lay hers. So, it was kind of dope. Now we did LA LA right? Yeah. Now we did that together. Yeah we did. But they only went at y'all. Was y'all ever mad at us for that? Like why the fuck Park A say come on? That record was originally a Mobb Deep record right? No it was their record. It is our record. The original white label said Mobb Deep record, right? No, it was originally for Stretch. It is our record. The original white label said Mobb Deep. Nah, that's because
Starting point is 00:46:07 somebody probably... Who I know, whatever. I had that original. I got that beat straight. That was their record and they asked us to get on it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And we was like, we could have been like, no, I ain't fucking with you. That's right. Who was doing the foul... My very first... Who was doing the foul imitations of the West Coast?
Starting point is 00:46:22 All the slang. Who was doing that? Uh-uh. The intro. Y'all were saying, dog. I don't, because look, this is how I remember it. You tell me if you remember it different. Um, I happened to be in Queensbridge just hanging out.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like, I love 12th Street. That was, I felt like I was a 12th Street nigga. I'm from 57th Avenue. You are a 12th Street nigga. I'm an honorary 12th Street nigga, right? Okay, boom. So we out there, and then Stretch Armstrong is doing this bad boy mixtape You remember?
Starting point is 00:46:47 I remember that mixtape You remember it was the bad boy mixtape I have that mixtape I don't remember it, but Yeah, this is what it was originally for So it was a freestyle in a sense In a sense it was a freestyle Right
Starting point is 00:46:58 So that day a dude named Chaz from my hood I remember He was the flyest nigga from my hood But he was the craziest nigga, right? named Chaz from my hood, I remember, he was the flyest nigga from my hood, but he was the craziest nigga, right? So Chaz is outside, like, he confused. He playing me New York, New York. He like, yo, you think they dissing us? So I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I go to Queensbridge, right, to meet up. We happen to, you know, be there. And Stretch Armstrong calls and says, let's come to the studio. So I think you had the turquoise blazer. Yes, I did. Yeah. My memory is a little good.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, the turquoise blazer. So listen, just in case y'all thinking of a blazer now, back then, a blazer was like a fucking caddy truck. Yeah, I don't fucking remember that.
Starting point is 00:47:44 So look, this guy's got some memory of. Yeah, I don't fucking remember that. This guy's got some memory of a turtle. I can't tell you what happened yesterday, but I can tell you when I come up, I remember this shit. I don't fucking remember that. So everybody, we met at Stretch Armstrong's crib. And I think back then,
Starting point is 00:48:01 Havoc had already gave us beats, but we ain't putting nothing out. But the original's on the original Dog Pound beat. So this is what happened. That's what I did. They axed us. Stretch axed. Yeah, I think we had already did. And then Marley Mar did the remix.
Starting point is 00:48:12 No, no, no, no, no, no. So what happened is, this is L.A., L.A. So what happened, Stretch, I said to Stretch, yo, I remember Chaz had just played me this. So I asked him. He was on something called a DJ list.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Back then, back in the days, you could send somebody a record and two months in advance and your shit wouldn't be bootlegged. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because if he was on a DJ list, it was just in the DJs. So, I asked Stretch to pull it up. We heard New York, New York. We couldn't determine if they were dissing us or not.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So, technically, we didn't diss them. We just rhymed. Correct? No, y'all dissed them. No, we dissed them in the video. I always thought it was a diss record. I always thought it was a diss record. Did that skin intro, man.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But I remember it was Prodigy's verse they took it at. Because he said, he said, JFK on our way to LA. And remember, remember. And remember, remember. And then he used that on y'all album later.
Starting point is 00:49:12 But the original L.A. L.A. were all five of us. Prodigy said NYC, you and I versus supremacy. Havoc and P.E. Queens niggas, so it seemed to be mega. Got word back from Noriega. And that was on the original L.A. L.A. Boom. Oh. I'm going to break it down for you. But he did that on. And that was on original LA LA. Boom. Oh. I'm going to break it down.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But he did that on. Right. Hold on. Hold on. Dan, he's versus somewhere else? No, he's versus somewhere else. But it was originally
Starting point is 00:49:35 on LA LA. He took it off. And when he took it off, I remember we calling Steve Rifkin. Steve Rifkin was like, no, he doesn't want to be a part of this. Really? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:48 you didn't. Damn, you didn't even know about it. Make some noise for Happy. Who, who? I didn't want to be a part of it. No, you stayed a part of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's make some noise for Happy staying a part of it. But from what I heard, now I never heard this from Prodigy or Steve Rifkin myself, but from what I heard, Steve Rifkin
Starting point is 00:50:04 said Prodigy didn't want to do it And then the verse came on The week The day that we shot the video Is the day It came out And you was only supposed To come to the video
Starting point is 00:50:14 And then Prodigy showed up He was right there Yes He was in the video That's right That's right He showed up Because it was an ill song
Starting point is 00:50:19 So he did his verse Then in the video No No Oh no He was just like L.A. L.A., big city between. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Shit was real. But you're saying it wasn't a diss track? Who said that? No, no, no. But then. Because that intro was diss. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was replaced.
Starting point is 00:50:36 But we heard it. We all heard it. But then that sounded like live nigga rap. That was it. That's when he used that verse. That's when he used that verse. But originally, L.A., L.A. And then, here's my question.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Is Tupac came at y'all. You know this is my record. Did you ever at one point want to be like, it's them niggas' record. Like, what? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my question. But I didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, yeah. Because I was like. Because what did y'all do? What was the record? I love the record. It just dropped it too late when you went back at Pop. Drop a jam on it. Woo!
Starting point is 00:51:10 Oh yeah! Drop a jam on it. Drop a jam on it. But I didn't care though, because I was like, yo, this nigga Tupac, the nigga from Juice. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like saying our name. So I was like, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Right, right. Like who gives a fuck? You know what I'm saying? Because we got like a hundred Queensmen with us. And we would fucking kill you. But I love Tupac, though.
Starting point is 00:51:31 But at the time. But at the time. Did you realize how beef, I mean, how big that moment was? Like, it was huge. Like, for Tupac to diss you, it's like you go platinum or something like I'm gonna keep it in real
Starting point is 00:52:01 But then I thought about I said I was super broke at that moment To walk me but they came Hold it up, nigga. Shit. But then I thought about it. I said, I was super broke at that moment. So I couldn't afford no fucking Tupac beef. But they came at you. It's a fact, my nigga. Like, at one point, on one arm, I was mad that he dissed y'all. But then on the other arm, I was like, holy shit. I wiped my sweat. But y'all went back.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I didn't give a fuck. You didn't give a fuck. You dropped a gem on her. We did drop a gem on her. It's an crazy record. Because I always thought that even if we did see each other, it was going to be like
Starting point is 00:52:30 whatever. It wasn't going to be no real shit. Right. You know what I mean? We come from the hood, so the real shit is in the hood.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And these other niggas is just rappers. So, you know. This is real shit right there. This is real shit. You know, the fans and the people want to know this L.A., L.A. story.
Starting point is 00:52:49 This is dope. Like, you did my first video. When that L.A., L.A. shit was out, believe me, we was going to L.A. under aliases. Like, we couldn't just, because Biggie got killed. Yo, nah, I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I remember this time. That's true. At this time. What's the chronological order of that, though? So when L.A. L.A. came out, what year is that? 96. Right. And Biggie had died when?
Starting point is 00:53:12 96. No, no, Google, Google, Google. I could swear that Biggie hadn't died yet when y'all put that record out. Nah, he didn't. No, because Pac died first. Then Biggie dies. Nah, nah, nah. We need the Googles.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So this is way before Biggie had passed. Google when Biggie and Pac died, right? Yeah. Pac was in 97. Biggie dies. Nah, nah, nah. We need the Googles. So this is way before Biggie had passed. When Biggie and Pac died, right? Yeah. Biggie hadn't passed. Pac was in 97. Biggie was six months later. So it's still 97? But still, what'd you say, you went in alias names? All I know is I remember
Starting point is 00:53:40 when all of that stuff was going down. Which was crazy. It was the East Coast, West Coast beef. Somebody probably didn't even fucking die yet. Yeah, it was some bullshit. You understand what I'm saying? So when they did die, you understand, it was like, okay, bulletproof cars, names under aliases,
Starting point is 00:54:02 but California is a market that you have to be in to sell records. It's like a huge market. And it's one of our number one markets to this day. You understand what I'm saying? And I'm sure you can agree. Yeah, I love California. I'm out there August 27th. I got a crib out there.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Let's make some noise for Havoc Flosser. Havoc Flosser. Havoc, you're an old school nigga. I just seen you. I have a timeshare out there. Yo, Havoc rolled up. Havoc Flossing. Havoc, you're an old school nigga. I just seen you roll. I have a timeshare out there. Your Havoc rolled up in a yellow cab. Let's make some noise for that nigga, my nigga. He's not even in New York.
Starting point is 00:54:32 He's not even in New York. You got some old school shit. Because my Uber account was compromised. The way your account is set up? No, so when I use my Uber, somebody knows that I'm using the Uber. How does someone compromise you? Wait, wait, wait. You have to explain this because I want to watch out for this.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I don't even want to explain it. When I use the Uber, somebody knows I'm using the Uber. You're not good with computers. One time you got tapped, right? They said that you said shit. You're not good with computers, right? You need to get the original phone tapped. That's his segway.
Starting point is 00:55:02 That's his segway. He's like, oh, shit, you be fucking up with computers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly segway That's his segway He's like Oh shit You be fucking up With Confetti Yeah yeah Yeah yeah Was those messages true Like fuck it Let's just keep it real
Starting point is 00:55:11 Let's talk about it Fuck it Let's just go into it If niggas see the messages I send to Gabon Shit It's all good It's the same shit
Starting point is 00:55:19 It might not You went a little too far I did You called him a faggot And all that You went a little too far I don't even want to relive that moment, but I was just, uh,
Starting point is 00:55:27 I was out of my mind at that second. And I didn't mean it. I totally understood that shit. Listen, I No, but I didn't mean it, though. But I didn't mean it. Listen, if you could see the shit that we say to each other, like, in the middle of an argument,
Starting point is 00:55:44 there's no respect. You come back later and be like, yo, my bad, my bad. Of course, we fight dirty. Me and Capone fought in Japan. We fight dirty. We fight dirty. I mean, me and P.I. How many fights you and P.I.?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Keep it real. I want to fight me and Capone. I'm going to just throw that out there. I'm going to just throw that out there. And I said it in front of Capone. Who wins in a fight, UMP? I'm always going to win against anybody. Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Let's go, let's go. You gassing it up. You snuffed him in Vegas, right? Of course he's going to get gassed up. My security is like 200 pounds. We ain't talking about it. It's your brother. Security can't be involved when it's your brother.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Anyway, anyway. You snuffed him in Vegas right No no no You foul You foul You are foul That's definitely a lie That's definitely a lie
Starting point is 00:56:30 I heard this I heard this in the room The room is Yeah the room is Now I gotta ask You know people hit me up On the DMs I gotta like
Starting point is 00:56:37 You know I gotta jargon You don't even check your DMs Stop lying On my Instagram Yo my DMs is getting scary On my Instagram I search through Cause like Now you check them There's two different DMs Is getting scary On my Instagram I search through Cause like
Starting point is 00:56:46 Now you check them There's two different DMs Right There's one DM No there's only one DM From people who follow you And then there's DMs From people
Starting point is 00:56:52 Oh yeah Oh those niggas Is foul Oh yeah And they sent you Pictures of some crazy shit I fuck up on the computer Too having
Starting point is 00:56:59 Listen look Yeah yeah Them niggas is foul They be asking me weird shit Yeah I don't know about those things. All right, let's not go there. All right, all right. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities
Starting point is 00:57:17 talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say, when cave people were here.
Starting point is 00:57:58 And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:58:33 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players
Starting point is 00:59:51 all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug man Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 01:00:06 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does.
Starting point is 01:00:20 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. This five months, we are not just celebrating. We're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson, and my book, All Boys Aren't Blue,
Starting point is 01:00:51 was just named the most banned book in America. If the culture wars have taught me anything, it's that pride is protest. And on my podcast, Fighting Words, we talk to people who use their voices to resist, disrupt, and make our community stronger. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us. And I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You'll hear from trailblazers like Bob the Drag Queen. To freedom! Angelica Ross. We ready to fight? I'm ready to fight. And Gabrielle Union. Hi, George. And storytellers with wisdom to spare. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:01:41 We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Where was we at, right? I forgot. Me and Capone fought one time. That's like, I forgot. Good. Me and Capone fought one time. In Japan.
Starting point is 01:01:59 In Japan. Did I say this story already? I said it in front of him. I said I won. No, no, you didn't say it in front of him. Yeah, I did. In the Dog it in front of him Yeah I did In the dog pound episode Yeah I did
Starting point is 01:02:07 Oh yeah he was there He wasn't really there He wasn't really there He was knocked the fuck out So what Me and Capone We spoke about it On the podcast
Starting point is 01:02:15 What was y'all worst fight Like you and P had Our worst fight Cause partners gotta fight That's how you know The relationship is real Like if you ain't Snuffed your nigga one time
Starting point is 01:02:24 Bang Y'all niggas don't love each other That's not true know the relationship is real. Like, if you ain't snuffed your nigga one time, bang. Y'all niggas don't love each other. That's not true. For real. Definitely not. You gotta just, like, I'm talking about, like, when you got 20 years together. I've known my dogs 20-something years. Yeah, yeah, because when money is involved, I'm talking about money.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Money, money, money. You gotta snuff your nigga one time. It's a wrap after that. It won't snuff me. I'm gonna keep it real. It's a wrap after that. We never snuffed me. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm body slamming him at the end. We never had a fight. You never had a fight?
Starting point is 01:02:48 We ain't no half-half. You're not in a breakfast club. You're not on, um... You're not doing, uh... No, we really didn't ever have a fight. Nah, never. But y'all came close. I don't believe you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yeah, we came close. But you did snuff him once. We came close to a fight. Cabone snuffed me. We came close. I never, never, never put my hands on people. Because, listen, I know you're lying. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But you protect me and people. And that's a great thing. That's a great thing. You got to take a nice word, man. I'm going to tell you when you had a fight with him. Oh, shit. When he came home from jail. That's the same time I had a fight with Capone.
Starting point is 01:03:21 When them niggas come home from jail, this is what we fucked up, right? Me and you. You gotta leave a nigga three months. After a nigga come home from jail, the nigga still smell like Korg craft soap. You gotta leave him alone for three months.
Starting point is 01:03:37 We tried to hold these niggas down and we came up and then you gotta fuck them up. Let's just keep it real. Come on, Havoc. We heard you beat prodigy up before I think Capone is the only draw I had like it was it was a draw. Like, he snuffed me, though, first. This is a fact. He came from jail. And it still be in them, like... It still be in them.
Starting point is 01:04:10 It should still be in them. So you gotta slam them when they're here. You gotta slam them when they're here. I've seen Pone do some foul shit right after he came out of jail. I've done... Listen, yes, yes. Drain, drain, drain.
Starting point is 01:04:20 This is 12th Street. We see it in elevators. Does it run in 12th Street? Is it like that in 12th Street? It's in the water. It's in the water. Let's make some noise for 12th Street water. We see it in elevators. Does it run in 12th Street? Is it like that in 12th Street? It's in the water. It's in the water. Let's make some noise for 12th Street water. I am so proud that you came through.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Because, you know, all this shit is jokes and laughs. You know what I'm saying? Like, the people, you're a legend, my dude. You've done so much historical, monumental shit. And we've done it, you know what I'm saying? Seeing each other grow. And I just, the reason why I be joking and laughing is I want people to know, because at the end of the day, I can't interview somebody at Drink Champs who don't want to do Drink Champs.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Like, I can't. They got to know what it is. I can't. I can't sleep this. But you're about to start getting a lot of interviews of, like. No, I mean, our shit is ringing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we stopped everything for
Starting point is 01:05:05 you and we got guess what we also got um we got what's that should go a bar bar what is it called bartenders a bartender we got a bartender i forgot like i wanted to make sure i wasn't saying a guy what is it because it's bartender we have we have a bartender We have a server. What's the guy version of bartender? It's the same thing. A bartender. There's no gender in the bartender. There's no gender in the bartender. I think that hip-hop should have our own race. Do you think I'm retarded? Our own race?
Starting point is 01:05:35 Who said that in the last episode? Was it you? I thought it was David Banner. Our own race? I feel like you should check. Hip-hop is a race. It's like white, black, hip-hop is a race like hip-hop is a race like I feel like like white black hip-hop like go hip-hop yep like I feel like I understand that the W Hotel is my favorite hotel right my suit most my favorite hotel right and in the W Hotel whatever W Hotel you got you got
Starting point is 01:05:57 the gay flag out there I don't care I'm good. Gave you all my people. It should be a hip-hop flag. But I want a hip-hop flag. Am I wrong? What's a hip-hop flag? What's going on with it? What's a hip-hop flag look like? I don't know. Can we make a hip-hop flag? My homie here. Hoi can make it.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Hoi can make it. We want a hip-hop flag. Are you with me on this? On the Drink Champs, yes, you start a contest if somebody didn't make the hip-hop flag. Now we got homie who makes the club flag. Hey, Hoi.
Starting point is 01:06:22 You know how they got the Jordan thing like that? It should be like a hip-hop flag. Yeah, hoey. You know how they got the Jordan thing like that? It should be like a hip hop flag. Yeah, it should. Like, I am with that. A contest. Yeah. And then, you know. Because, just think about it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Hold on, hold on. Who told you to open a rose? No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We're going to save that for afterwards. Hold on. Everybody else is saying what to do. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:06:41 No, no, nobody else. No, no, no. We listen to him. We listen to him. You have to listen to this moron. Unless Best Buy Lickers tell you, my man, what's my man's name? Let's pick him up. D, D, what up? D, pick him up.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Hold on, because we staying right here. But listen, have it. Listen, this is real shit, right? Okay. Like, we should have responsibility of putting people in office. Like, I told Talib Kweli, he came here, and he was speaking all this shit,
Starting point is 01:07:02 you know, great shit, about how we reform and do shit. But I say you should run for either mayor or Brooklyn council. Or the mayor of Brooklyn. So why don't he? This is what I'm trying to do. No, I think he was down to do it, but he didn't want to talk about it yet. Now we told David Banner, run for Mississippi or L.A.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But you know what, though? When niggas be running for office, a lot of skeletons start coming out. Donald Trump. So that's why niggas don't. But Donald Trump is disrespected. He's like, he's changing that shit. He might be fucking around to be the next president. You could have any skeleton at that point.
Starting point is 01:07:33 And look, look. So you're telling me, you're telling me the shit that Donald Trump do, right? But he's white. But he's white. Yeah, but. No, but I think the shit you said was genius. That's why I said. The smack DVD shit was genius.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. He was like, it's like a Smack DVD. He turned politics into a freestyle battle. Right. So what I'm saying is that's why we can't win under being black people, but we can win under being hip hop. You understand what I'm saying? Like we have people register as a hip hopper. So wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:08:00 You got to make up your mind. Is it a race or a party? It's both. But we'll never win. I don't know. Listen, I'm the guy who came up with it. It can't be a race and a party. It's both. But we'll never win. I don't know. Listen, I'm the guy who come up with... You can't be a race and a party. Yeah, why not, man?
Starting point is 01:08:08 Nah, that'd be racist at that point. We gotta change some new shit. Like hip-hopper. They already hate us. But what I'm saying is, we can actually turn the world around. Hip-hop owns the world right now. Yeah, but we don't utilize it.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, but we don't got the power. Culturally. We don't got the power. We could if we network everybody. That's what he's saying. That's what I utilize it. Culturally. Yeah, but we don't got the power. Culturally. We don't got the power. We could if we network everybody. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Network everybody. We negate everybody around the world.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And we don't need to have meetings, but you register under hip-hop. So you could be any fucking nationality, and you register under hip-hop. But that's a part. That's a different thing. I think that's a good idea. I'm just saying. I'm with both of those. Because let's just say, let's just say, man, like, you know, hip-hop is crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Like, you have brothers like Screwball from Queensbridge. You know what I'm saying? Legends. And one of them passed away, right? Two of them passed away, I want. Screwball, one of them. Yeah, so why wouldn't hip-hop come? Like, it shouldn't be Mobb Deep's responsibility.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It should be hip-hop's responsibility when a person has dedicated their life to this culture and this thing. We should have insurance policies for ourselves. Health insurance for ourselves. This is what KRS was saying, but even bigger than that. He's been saying that. Even bigger than that. Do you agree with that? Like, if you're an actor, there's SAG, there's all this shit.
Starting point is 01:09:22 You ain't got shit for hip-hop, nigga. You ball and bust your legs music should have that hip hop in it I would love to agree with you but it's all just about getting fucking insurance period
Starting point is 01:09:30 as a human being as a person individually you know what I'm saying cause motherfuckers be dying and leaving they family with the bill you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:09:38 and shit like that when they can just get life insurance and life insurance is available for anybody and it don't cost that much it's true but you a part of a legendary group you gon gonna get money for the rest of your life what
Starting point is 01:09:48 about people who dedicated their life to this game and can't get another dollar out this game but they they they spent every dollar they did but give an example give an example because like a like if you could have joe schmoe on the block who thinks he's been winning in like a sporty d like a school ball, like a cool Herc. Like cool Herc. Pioneers and legends, right. Like if cool Herc is sick... That's originally how...
Starting point is 01:10:12 Even Jay-Z was a part of that movement. I think originally. What movie is that? That cool Herc and Afrika Bambaat and all of them should have some kind of... Yeah, man. If you're a sports agent and you get fucked up, there's something to protect you. Right now, if you... If a train hits your motherfucking ass...
Starting point is 01:10:28 If you're a sports agent, then you're making bread to get health insurance and life insurance. Right. You know what I'm saying? If you're in the hood, if you're fucking stupid enough
Starting point is 01:10:39 not to get Medicaid, then you're fucking just stupid enough not to get Medicaid. No, but you don't feel like people who dedicated their life... Like Like at the end of the day Oh you talking about Rappers and artists I think when you said SAG
Starting point is 01:10:48 That's a perfect example Of what I should have But look When they made the Of course There's not an organization For people to put Their money in
Starting point is 01:10:56 Musicians at the very least Right For hip hop But at the same time When you do make money You shouldn't just Spend it on jewelry And cars
Starting point is 01:11:04 And all of this shit and expect me to feel sorry for you 10 years later. So is that the culture's responsibility too? Because we teach in that too. It's not the culture, it's your responsibility as a person. Right. But if the culture's teaching that to the youth that doesn't know any better and they grow up in that,
Starting point is 01:11:20 I'm just saying. The culture's not really teaching that because they're not even advocating it. That's what I'm saying. We shouldn't be like boxing. In boxing, there's no holds barred. You just get your're not even advocating it. That's what I'm saying. We shouldn't be boxing. In boxing, there's no holds barred. You just get your money and that's it. But every other sport, they have unions and they have shit like that. Yeah, but sport doesn't have that. Hip hop shouldn't be like that. When I do a movie, I sign up.
Starting point is 01:11:40 These motherfuckers pay me for as long as this movie is being played. You know what I'm saying as this movie is being paid. Right. Play. You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit is real shit. Like, why hip-hop can't do that? So, and then we have a union where we take a percentage out and, you know. No, a union is definitely, I think. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:11:57 K-R-S-1 gets sick. That's good. That's good. K-R-S-1 gets sick. He gets some real shit sick. You're going to pay into the union. You're going to get out of the union. You're going to need $500,000
Starting point is 01:12:05 And none of us gotta Come out of our pocket Because we've been payin' Confident No, no, no But think about it But think about it But think about it
Starting point is 01:12:13 But think about it But think about it What about when you start Runnin' into lazy rappers? That's what I'm sayin' No, no You gotta pay into the union You gotta qualify
Starting point is 01:12:20 You gotta pay into it Yeah, you gotta pay into the union And qualify Yeah, but Okay, alright So you're not gonna handle Hip-hop as on Hip-hop welfare I mean, it's like Sac When he said Sac You gotta pay into it. Yeah, and qualify. Yeah, but, okay, all right. So you're not gonna handle hip-hop as on hip-hop welfare. I mean, it's like SAG.
Starting point is 01:12:29 When he said SAG, that made sense. Wait, I don't understand. Wait, hip-hop welfare? Because it would become hip-hop welfare. Because somebody would be like, I'm a rapper just to get benefits. But that doesn't have to be SAG. You gotta put it in that work.
Starting point is 01:12:41 You gotta put it, it's like a pension. What's work? It's like a pension. No, you gotta show your work, yeah. Yeah, like you know how you, like it in that work. You got to put it. It's like a pension. What's work? It's like a pension. No, you got to show your work. Yeah. Like, you know how you. Like publishing, in a sense. Like, if you work for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I get it. I get it. It's a pension. You get a pension at the end of your job. Correct? Like, if you work for somewhere. You get a what? A pension.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I thought you said a picture. I'm like. No. No, a pension. Nobody know what I'm talking about? Yes, I get it. I thought you said a picture. A lot of y'all niggas work over here
Starting point is 01:13:05 I never had a real job in my life Yeah I never had a real job neither But I know that I watched King of Queens And And King of Queens Doesn't happen He gets a pension
Starting point is 01:13:16 At the end of his shit He worked for UPS And that's what happens In real life right? But you know what though Why we can't have that In hip hop We get a pension It's not realistic
Starting point is 01:13:26 Because there's too many Fucking rappers No but I'm saying You gotta put in You gotta put in your work And you gotta buy into it But what's work You gotta buy into it though
Starting point is 01:13:36 If you ain't making money You ain't gonna buy into shit You know what I'm saying And like publishing If your record ain't doing nothing Publishing ain't gonna pay So we have to have a system How about when you make money
Starting point is 01:13:47 Just buy yourself some healthcare That's it Yeah but What I'm saying is What about the niggas Like God bless Like Like
Starting point is 01:13:55 ODB Or DMX They ain't gonna get no healthcare I have it Those are my niggas That's they for God bless them They some wild niggas
Starting point is 01:14:03 Or the people that were here before And I love them. Before it got to where it got. Like a cool hurt. Do you not think that maybe someone like a cool hurt deserves something back from the culture? Shh. Do we deserve something back from the culture? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Of course. Being that the culture was built on his back. Definitely. Definitely. Yes. Hell yeah. But he's there before an infrastructure. Before the infrastructure. Before industry was invested in hip-hop
Starting point is 01:14:28 Before anybody even believed in hip-hop as a viable means Yeah, but if you get somewhere where, you know what I'm saying Before the infrastructure, then, you know, what can I say? What? What can I say? But anyway, let's get on to the topic Yeah, yeah, nah, this is real. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I was getting political because that's something that's really close to my heart. It's like, if you put in 20 years of work, anybody put in 20 years of work, and, you know, some people not know how to reinvent themselves. Some people don't know how to produce beats. Some people don't know how to do a podcast. Some people don't know how to DJ. You know what I'm saying? What happens?
Starting point is 01:15:06 You look at the NBA. These guys stopped playing for the NBA, and they have options. As a rapper, why can't we retire and say, I put in that work. I paid my insurance. I want my insurance back. Boom! And you get a nice lump sum and you get to go to Barbados and chase chicks that look like
Starting point is 01:15:28 Rihanna. But you have to put in your work before that would happen. That's what he's saying. You can't just be that. Because you know what'll happen? You can't be Joe Small on Toolball. This is what'll happen when you start thinking like that. When you go, okay, when you become a rapper, you join into this thing, and then you're going to get healthcare. It's just
Starting point is 01:15:44 going to drive the prices down when you go to perform. If you was going to get paid $5,000, now you're only going to get paid $200 if everybody is getting into this system. So it's a capitalistic market. You understand what I'm saying? And it's a free market. You understand what I'm saying? So if you want to put restrictions on it and regulations, then cool. But next time you go to Russia or Switzerland to do a show, they're only going to give you $200.
Starting point is 01:16:09 No, no. You understand what I'm saying? No, no. No, that's what's going to happen if you make it a system. I don't see how that would happen, though. No, no, no. No, it will happen. No, no.
Starting point is 01:16:17 If it's a system. If it's a system. But he's saying something more national. It would drive. We took Dream Champs to a whole. No, I like this, though. This is different. This is different. This is different.
Starting point is 01:16:25 I don't even want another drink no more, right? Because it's like Daz. You see Daz? Like, Daz did all these amazing records, and his royalty checks... No, but Daz's retirement is his bud shit. Yeah, his royalty check. But his publishing is so crazy. His publishing is crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:42 His publishing is bananas. Your publishing got to be crazy like this. And there's this thing about it You're blessed There's people who is not Right So whose fault is that though? I don't know
Starting point is 01:16:51 I'm asking Nah I don't think it should be That combo over there Is fucking me up Go ahead Nah so what I'm saying is If the records ain't good It shouldn't be
Starting point is 01:16:58 The concept The concept sounds good But once you do the concept It's gonna drive prices down For the rest of the people that's trying to get paid, and it's not gonna be a free market no more. It's like we're having the producers.
Starting point is 01:17:11 This is a game of paying jack shit now. Right, they're getting paid less. But we rely on publishing. You understand what I'm saying? So I don't give a fuck what you give me up front, because I'm already sitting and I'm living, I got my house, I don't give a fuck What you give me a friend Cause I'm already Sitting and living I got my house I don't care what you give me
Starting point is 01:17:27 A friend As long as the publisher's right Give me 75% of the publishing Right I'm more happier with that Because that's gonna last longer And then my kids can get that Cause this is for my kids now
Starting point is 01:17:38 You know what I'm saying So the publishing In turn is doing What we're talking about In a sense Pretty much But not directly You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:45 But it's a good concept, hip-hop, insurance, and this, that, and the third, but it'll just drive prices down and people away from the business.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Okay, let's get back dumb. We spoke too much. All right, now. I'm so worried. Did I tell you my favorite I'm having wine? That girl who... Yeah, Amanda. Amanda. Yeah, we need... Amanda Payton. We need? Yeah, that girl who... Yeah, Amanda.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Amanda. Yeah, we need to change the ice. We need everything. She paid attention to the crowd. Listen, did I tell you my favorite Havoc rhyme? Did I ever say that just now? No, no. Go.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Let's go. Let's hear it. On the infamous album, you said, I keep it real, packed still, like my nigga YG. Come on, say the rhyme with me, Havoc. When the fool try to play me Wet him up Then I'm sweaty
Starting point is 01:18:27 Forever God Forever wildin' Come on you don't know your shit Come on Javi Y'all don't do that That's my favorite rhyme Come on Javi
Starting point is 01:18:36 Forever wildin' It's how we live Up in the bridge You must hit skid Cop act the guy To hit a nigga like a big 25 Now I can't Get life Forever burning in hell must hit skin cop act the guy to hit a nigga like a big 25 not gay
Starting point is 01:18:46 and I'm getting light forever burning in hell niggas is tripe it's the semi-auto you can bring it
Starting point is 01:18:53 on yo I'm pulling out stripping niggas just like a porno flick I'm sick tomorrow thick
Starting point is 01:18:59 go past when I click again I'm on some bullshit that's how I was raised Each level is a stage I have a crime of doubt
Starting point is 01:19:08 Plays in Pulse of alcohol Walk before you crawl I'm in this The witness You gonna take a fall The infamous Queens bridge
Starting point is 01:19:16 You wanna see And get creeping On those who kept sleeping I'll never do that I'm wrong with two masks Plus my crew backs My every move I choose Give them crews the blues I'm runnin' with two maxes Plus my crew backs, my every move I choose, give a cruise to blues
Starting point is 01:19:26 I'm open off the daily, obey me Or get sprayed with the sweeper Cause I'm a brother's keeper, the grand reaper Rollin' with nothin', but big batters and big heaters Blow your dreams high, leave you marked like Adidas Jiggy, I know how to fix you Pretty boy, niggas frontin' hard is the issue Word to my arm, boy, you get folded Like Adidas of this lifestyle. The 41st side get bent, run wild. The 41st side too. You know how you do
Starting point is 01:20:08 violate, motherfucker. I'ma see you with the Linden. It's the start of your ending. Setting it again and again. Make some noise! Make some noise! That rhyme is so powerful that when I met YG, all right, I met the nigga. I met him for two seconds.
Starting point is 01:20:35 He said, yo, whatever you want, my nigga. I remember, listen, whatever that nigga asked me for. I said, yo, that that's why Gee my nigga Like yo listen man I'ma be honest man I hated these rumors About us Because
Starting point is 01:20:52 If there wasn't No Mobb Deep There wouldn't have been No CNN And if we never said that I'ma say it in front of your face I'ma say it in front of everybody We 100%
Starting point is 01:21:04 You paved the way for% you paved the way for us. Nas paved the way for y'all. Y'all paved the way for us. And this is how life is supposed to be. We supposed to get money for the rest of our life and be old niggas and drinking Tito's vodka
Starting point is 01:21:19 on a goddamn podcast. Getting drinks from a chick named Amanda. Shit is live. That's not too bad. You know what I'm saying, Hal? That's not too bad. We can't complain right now.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I can't complain. But yo, man, yeah, that shit, you know. You got your new album. We've totally forgotten. Come on. This is up right now? Is there a camera somewhere?
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah, we got cameras all over. Right, right, right. You've been taping the whole time. You can do a commercial right now. This is not right now? Is there a camera somewhere? Yeah we got cameras all over Right here right here You been taping the whole time You can do a commercial right now This is not a first week album This is one of them albums That you grinded out For a lot of weeks
Starting point is 01:21:52 Right Right here And this is called The Silent Partner You know what I mean? And it's produced by the Alchemist And stuff like that Shout out to the Alchemist
Starting point is 01:22:00 The whole project? Yeah he did the whole project If you look at it It looked like a jazz album. Jazz and the Taz. Jazz and the Taz. Guru and all that. But, you know, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Baby girl, can I get another one? We have Alchemist on YouTube. I'm having one of the other ones. We're not letting Havoc leave yet. This is dope, by the way. Oh, thank you, baby girl. We're not letting Havoc leave yet. Not yet, not yet.
Starting point is 01:22:21 The album's dope. The album's dope? Wow. Oh, you heard it? Thank you, thank you. I'm a fan. Now, what's left for you? Oh, man, there's so much going on.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I just wrote a screenplay, you know what I'm saying, entitled Black Sheep. You know what I'm saying? The movie that I'm about to put out. What's it about, roughly? Roughly, it's about a black kid that was raised by a Mexican family. You know what I'm saying? Since he was a toddler.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Oh, you're getting deep. I told you this nigga went to Art and Design. Listen, Art and Design is a real school. What inspired that story? You got to be rich or smart to go to Art and Design. It's a fact. Me living in Cali. Me living in Cali and just being out there and just checking it out.
Starting point is 01:23:03 You know what I'm saying? It's all good. But my next movie is called Killer Black, which is more straightforward. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. But my next movie is called Killer Black, which is more straightforward. Your brother. You know what I'm saying? Your brother, right? Yeah, it's going to be loosely.
Starting point is 01:23:10 I love Killer Black. Let's make some noise for Killer Black. You knew my brother. Yes. I love you, brother. He was the realest nigga. You knew my brother.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah, he was a great guy. Great guy. And I, you know, imagine, you know, that's my brother and he's not here right now. Right. So I got a movie, imagine, you know, that's my brother and he's not here right now. Right. So I got a movie loosely based on him that I wrote.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And it's not just bullshit like, you know, hood flicks or whatever it is. Because let's just get to it. Did you agree with Prodigy's book? Like, let's just be real. He said he didn't read it. No, no, no, no. I'm going to be honest with you. And I'm going to say it again.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I didn't read it. And the little things that I did read, I didn't agree with it, but I respected it because that was his story. His point of view. That was his point of view. So I was like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:23:56 And me and Prodigy is around each other 24, 7 days a week. You know what I'm saying? His life is yours. your life is yours. Right, right, right. So would you ever write a book like that? And like, without, like, because I assume. If I would have wrote a book like that, I would have wrote it.
Starting point is 01:24:15 But now that he wrote a book like that, I won't write one. So you write the movie. You write the movie. You know, it's whatever it is. So your brother, your brother's a Queens legend. Not only a Queensbridge legend. He was like one of the realest of the realest. And that's your older brother or your younger brother?
Starting point is 01:24:30 He's my younger brother. He's my little brother. Your little brother. Wow. God bless, man. God bless you, my brother. But, yeah, you know, so my next screenplay that I wrote is called, you know, Killer Black. And it's loosely based on my brother's story.
Starting point is 01:24:51 You know, you've met my brother before. It's not going to be like a shoot him up, bang, bang type of film. But it's going to really get inside the depths of, you know, my crib and shit like that. You know what I mean? What was going on. Nah, nah, nah. Yo, your whole block, I'm just shit like that. Right. You know what I mean? You know what was going on. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Yo, your whole block, I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:25:07 your block was, was... How much time, how much time we got left? We, we, we, we don't give a fuck. Whatever we want. Because my fucking bladder's
Starting point is 01:25:15 about to bust. Are you about to bust? Everybody got to pee on this show. This is the way we kind of end the show. Maybe we don't. All right. Yeah, we, how much?
Starting point is 01:25:22 We're on pause. We're on at 75. All right. All right, we can do like five more minutes and come back. We can do like five, ten more minutes. It's a beautiful day. It's a beautiful day. I knew that.
Starting point is 01:25:35 I learned that from Vali. I learned that from Vali. And we thought about this years ago. For real? No, Charlamagne told me, he said, he came on our shit, and he said, yo, see, I can't say no to y'all because y'all the drink champs, and y'all actually have drinks. And Breakfast Club don't have breakfast. He said, the Breakfast Club never have breakfast.
Starting point is 01:25:56 I was like, oh, shit. The concept we have forever. Breakfast and everything is going to sleep. Yeah, go to sleep. It just took us a while to get it off the ground. And we tape it, we all in. No, no. But yo, but yo, that's, who thought of that?
Starting point is 01:26:08 Both of us. With the drinks right here. This is conceptual. For real? With the drinks right here? Me and this nigga used to hang out, right? This is how the drink chaps, in my mind, you got a totally different story, and it's fucking great.
Starting point is 01:26:20 What, I have a different story? No, I'm just kidding. In my mind, you have a different story, because in my mind. We used to hang out. I used to record in his studio. In my office in Kendall. In Kendall, yeah. He have a different story? No, in my mind. You have a different story because in my mind. We used to hang out. I used to record in his studio. In Kendall, yeah. He had a studio.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I used to record and he used to play poker. If you record records and play poker, it's pretty much like the same time. Like, it's long as fucking half.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Right, right. So, he would be out there with a big ass bottle of Bacardi. Look. This one. Look.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I had this religiously. And I'd be out there with a big ass bottle of like either Ciroc. No, I had this religiously and I'll be out there with a big-ass bottle or like either sir I was drinking smear no it wasn't with Kindu, man. Yeah, man. Give some credit. You came down south and you went down. I didn't give him no love. We're going to give Kindu some fucking love, man. Let's give Kindu love. Where's Kindu? It's South Miami.
Starting point is 01:27:12 It's real South Miami. It's like Long Island of Miami. Not really. It's like the Hempstead of Miami. They even got Homestead.
Starting point is 01:27:20 So you finished the story you were telling them. How we started Dream Champs. Oh, yes. Your story. Yeah, so you would drink the Bacardi them. How we started Dream Champs. Oh, yes. Your story. Yeah, so you would drink the Bacardi.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I would drink the Grey Goose. And then we would both finish. So we both felt like, oh, all right. You're a champ. You're a champ. And then we initiated Static Selector first. No, no, but you're going way ahead of the story. I'm going to wait until our hour.
Starting point is 01:27:41 We had mad friends. We would get them drunk. We had Netflix friends. Mad friends. Oh, mad friends. Okay. We had mad people in the story. I'm going to wait until our audience We had mad friends. We had Netflix friends? Mad friends. Oh, mad friends. Okay. We had mad people in the studio
Starting point is 01:27:47 and they all trying to drink with us. So you had young cats trying to drink with older cats. And they can't hang. Now don't do heroin no more. And one of the niggas
Starting point is 01:27:56 pissed in the cooler. Remember? Yes. We had Sonny Son. Nigga pissed in the cooler. Long story short, a lot of drinking and then we was just saying,
Starting point is 01:28:06 either you a dream champ or you not a dream champ. Right. So then he made a song about it while we was there. Dream champs. The dream champs song. Alchemist beat. When did you make this song? It was an alchemist beat.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Alchemist beat. Alchemist beat, and then we had to change it. We had to change it. Because Alchemist sold to Mississippi. Alchemist sold to Mississippi. You didn't come and get a Havoc beat? Which we deserved. Can I get a Havoc beat? Which we deserve. Can I get a Havoc beat for my last album?
Starting point is 01:28:29 Can I get a Havoc beat? Listen, once you say it on Drink Champs, it's a contract. You can have it for free times ten. Oh, damn. That means ten other beats. Listen. I want to make something very, very, very, very, very, very, very clear. We're recording, by the way, so let's go.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Havoc has always been a genuine dude, a genuine person to me. Me and Prodigy has always been a genuine, genuine love. I wanted to put this rumor to rest. There's no beef with CNN and Marv Deep. Obviously, man. We had misunderstandings, but it is not beef. We can get money together. He stood here.
Starting point is 01:29:10 When everybody take a piss most of the time, no, no, no. Fat Joe started it off with taking a piss, and we kept it going. We kept it going. But usually that's our cue to be like, it's over. It's done. Yeah, it's done. We rarely come back. I want that's the RQ to be like, it's over. It's done. Yeah, it's done.
Starting point is 01:29:25 We rarely come back. I want to thank you for making that. Y'all just recently celebrated 20 years of the Infamous album. That album changed my life. I don't give a fuck. Even when I was beefing with P, whatever, that's my man. I love him. I love him.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I was just, hold on, hold on. If it wasn't for that album, I wouldn't be here. Let me cut you off real quick. Beefing with P Whatever that's my man I love him I love him I was just Hold on That album If it wasn't for that album I wouldn't be here Let me cut you off real quick I was just Driving in the car With my homeboy
Starting point is 01:29:53 And I was just telling him Like you know The little bullshit That P And whatever Nori had I said yo That shit is like
Starting point is 01:30:00 Laughable Because I said Them niggas is mad cool Yes You know Behind the scenes Them niggas is mad cool Thank Yes. You know what I'm saying? Behind the scenes, them niggas is mad cool.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for clearing this up. And P will be here next.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Yes. Yes. P will be here next. Yes. Yo, Prodigy, wherever you at, we love you. Yo, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:18 I got P drunk in my studio one night. He fell out too. I'm sure. I'm sure. He fell out too. Ask nature. I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I was like, yo, we didn't know what to do Give him more drinks Call an ambulance We're like You can't do that Like this is mob deep You can't do that
Starting point is 01:30:32 And then And then the nigga woke up And just wrote his rhyme He stood on the floor And wrote his rhyme The nigga is crazy My nigga Prodigy we love you
Starting point is 01:30:39 My nigga Please let's put this rumor To rest You know what I'm saying Like we should go out here And get money We are olders And plus when older niggas Is beefing We look cor. You know what I'm saying? Like, we should go out here and get money. We are olders. And plus, when older niggas is beefing, we look corny.
Starting point is 01:30:47 You know that, right? Like, older niggas beefing, we corny. Like, when you're 18, you're beefing. Like, we fighting with canes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we don't want to do that, man. Havoc, man, I want to thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:30:58 And I want to, like, really just throw it out there that, you know, we really got genuine love for each other. Like, you ain't asked to change up nothing You knew what What it was gonna be You came And I really appreciate this Your album is out Let's
Starting point is 01:31:12 Let's big that up once more time Um The Silent Partners The Silent Partners Real quick Why do you Why do you wanna say The Silent Partners
Starting point is 01:31:19 Oh because you know what I'm saying Um In Mobb Deep You know what I'm saying You know who You the dad You get the big royalty checks You know who's the most vocal one In Mobb Deep And that would be Prodig know what I'm saying? In Mobb Deep, you know what I'm saying? You the dad. You get the big royalty checks. You know who's the most vocal one in Mobb Deep?
Starting point is 01:31:27 And that would be Prodigy. Everybody always look at me like I'm the person that make the beats. Yes, I do make the beats. And it rhymes. But I do spit, too, at the same time. And you hard. You know what I'm saying? And this is like, yo, you know, when I leave out of here,
Starting point is 01:31:43 y'all could throw this in the garbage or whatever. Nah, nah, nah. This is all going to be taken. You crazy. We hip-hop fans here. I did not think that was going to occur. I did not. Hey, you know I don't smoke weed.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Yeah, nah, nah. I ain't going to lie. You always been the biggest drinker in the world Yo you remember I came out here For my birthday And you just signed the G-Unit Oh shit I forgot about that
Starting point is 01:32:15 You just signed the G-Unit I told you I was like Yo what the fuck did you walk me into Wait wait What happened You thought I lined you up Keep it real
Starting point is 01:32:23 No no no I didn't think you lined me up, but I thought that you thought that you was the type of person that could drink kumbaya. Yeah, no, no, no. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I live in Miami and Fat Joe arrives. You just signed the G, you know what I mean? Right. Let's keep it real. I was like, what the fuck? I told you,
Starting point is 01:32:38 don't talk to this nigga. I told you. Yo, you told me not. Listen, Havoc, you my nigga. I love you. I came, though. No, you came. I came to the studio. You came. Listen, listen. Listen, Havoc, you my nigga. I love you. I came, though. No, you came.
Starting point is 01:32:47 I came to the studio. You came. Listen, listen. No, no, it wasn't the studio. It was So Be Live. It was the club. Right. So Be Live.
Starting point is 01:32:52 I was there. You was there. It was your birthday. It was my birthday. I came over. I did not invite Fat Joe. I went to your crib. Ray Benzino was there.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Yeah. You went to my crib. Let's make some noise for Havoc coming to my crib. It's all out of record. So listen, I'm your man. You didn't trust me that night. A little bit because I told you not to talk to Fat Joe. But as a real nigga, I got to do that.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Yo, I said don't do it. These Puerto Rican niggas got knives. I told you. They look like it. Wait, wait, you told us not to talk to him? Listen, this is what happened. This is my nigga. Me, I got Havoc out here.
Starting point is 01:33:26 We wildin'. We havin' a great time. This is when P.A.S. is dead. I remember the Sobe Live party. I remember that. So, I didn't invite Fat Joe, but Fat Joe was my brother. I didn't think of him just signing the G unit. So, but soon as Fat Joe walked in, he was like, yo, is that who I think it is?
Starting point is 01:33:41 And I was like, yo, that's my brother. He with me. So, he was like, he's good. But I didn't feel comfortable. I said, have, don't talk to this nigga. And I was by myself. No. I was by myself.
Starting point is 01:33:55 No, you were with me, nigga. You wasn't by yourself. Nigga, you was running around. No, I was running around. It's my birthday party. You was running around. But I told you. I said, have, don't say nothing to this nigga.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Just chill. He ain't going to do nothing. But you went over there and was like yo it was like 10 puerto ricans like this they were gonna kill you they were gonna kill you and i love puerto rico my son is a half there's two times they was gonna kill you when i was there listen the new york new york video because they was looking at me like this No the New York New York video I remember You just signed a G-Win as well What was you doing there
Starting point is 01:34:30 No no no It was rumors You was out of line though You was there and yo I almost killed these niggas These niggas start plotting on you I said you crazy You left for me that day.
Starting point is 01:34:45 You don't remember? And you came to the hood lab. I don't remember. You came to my studio. I don't remember. This is a fact. I don't remember. And then that day of Sobe Live, I told you not.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And then it was great. But, yeah, you got too much heart havoc. That was too much. Them Puerto Rican niggas was going to kill you in there. They had me. Yeah. No, you good. No, you was with me.
Starting point is 01:35:03 You was good. But look, from what you saw You showed them I went over there I seen Joe I was like You know what I'm saying You know he did
Starting point is 01:35:13 With his people And them niggas Was like this They was there But I started walking Towards Fat Joe They was like this Like they started
Starting point is 01:35:21 I told you don't do it I told you I told you Listen listen I was on the other side I forget what it was I it I told you I told Like I was Listen listen I was on the other side I forget what it was I took a picture And I looked
Starting point is 01:35:28 And I was like Diablo V Diablo V Diablo Like you knew You wasn't supposed to do that But it was funny as hell Because you got mad heart havoc
Starting point is 01:35:37 And you know what People need to start Recognizing that People need to start Recognizing that You flew out here To come see the drink champs On your own dime.
Starting point is 01:35:45 You came here. And you talked about everything. You didn't tell me no restrictions. And I just really want to appreciate you guys having 20 years of a classic motherfucking album. That album single-handedly was... It changed hip-hop, man. It changed hip-hop, man. You made a beat over the project.
Starting point is 01:36:05 It's fucking awesome. I really appreciate your contributions to hip-hop. I really appreciate your contributions to my career because I want to keep giving it up to you and Prodigy because, you know, a lot of people get it misconfused. Like, you know, I like to
Starting point is 01:36:22 be funny, you know, whatever, whatever. But, like, if I seriously say that, if it wasn't for y'all, it wouldn't have been us. You understand what I'm saying? And think about it. Like, Prodigy, like, his origin
Starting point is 01:36:35 being from Left Frack or being affiliated to Left Frack, it was like we was the second coming of y'all. Sure did. You know what I'm saying? So, I got nothing.
Starting point is 01:36:43 And you worked on the War Report. Yes, I did. Yes, you worked on the War Report. Yes, I did. Yes, you worked on the War Report. Yes, I did. How was it working on the War Report? We going on 20 years. Parole Violators.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Next year. Parole Violators. Parole Violators. You know when I knew you was a genius? I want you to answer the Parole Violators question. But when I knew you was a genius, this is how I knew you was ill. Every beat I ever did for you in the beginning,
Starting point is 01:37:07 like, the original beat was it, but then you went back and did three different more versions. Right. I do that to this day. Yo, to this day you still do that? This nigga's a genius. What beat machine do you use mostly?
Starting point is 01:37:21 Right, the machine. Native instruments. But before, what were you using? Native instruments. Back in those days. Back in them days with the MPC, no. With Hath. The MPC.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Every time you do that, I'll be like, that's Hath. Hath. Sorry. You'll give me three different beats. I've seen him lately. He be like, I'm doing the machine. Hold on. You don't got the Zika virus out here, right?
Starting point is 01:37:38 Because I'm skinny. Nah, we don't even know what that shit is. We might have it. We might. We in Miami. You never know. We don't even know what that is. Only dark-skinned niggas get it. I thought he was about to make a beat.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I'm trying to be dark-skinned. Listen, you don't see, I'm in Miami, I'm trying to be dark-skinned. You didn't get bit. I'm bit. No, no, we ain't bit. No, not bit. No, bit, bit. No, you good, you good. Oh, that's that New York. You come from New York, fresh from New York. Yeah. Y'all was on an overseas tour.quitoes know if you're from New York. Y'all was on an overseas tour. You've been getting a lot of money lately. I mean, y'all been on the tour this whole year.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I wouldn't say that. Can we come on tour? You did Smith and Wesson. I'll take that person. I was like, damn. They couldn't holler at us. You paid me, man. We would have had a better tour.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Like, I mean, those are my niggas. Come on, sir. But we would have had a better tour. Like, I mean, those are my niggas. Come on, son. But we would have had a better tour. We would have done, done, done. All night, you would have heard that. Nah, I'm glad y'all didn't come. I'm glad y'all didn't come. It was wild?
Starting point is 01:38:36 Because y'all niggas would have been snatching up my bitches. So, you know what I'm saying? So, I was like, nah. How about you been getting bitches for years? Especially Capone. Yeah, Capone. Y'all, y'all. Tony Montana.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yeah, yeah. Tony Montana. Is that a 12th Street thing? Nah. Did that start from kindergarten? Or, like, when did that start? Like, dark-skinned niggas, like, yeah, yeah. When did that start?
Starting point is 01:38:57 Like, y'all niggas been knocking things down. Like, back in the day. Like, not recently. Not recently? Under the F- Oh, excuse me. Excuse me. No, no, no Not recently? Under the F... Oh, excuse me. Excuse me. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:39:08 I'm saying I got a girl now. Oh, let's make some noise for having a girl. We don't believe it. Are you going to take another hit? Three is my lucky number. You take two more. Son, I'm already... We had KRS-One.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Whatever the fuck that is, I got it. Oh, no, this is... When was the last time not whatever the fuck that is I got a little pool when the last time you saw I feel like I got a smell on my face I feel like I got a smell on my face is that shit is that's just not a bomb when When was the last time you smoked? Just now. But before this. That's the truth. 25 years. Five years ago. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:39:53 For real? I'm really like high right now. You're an asshole, man. You're an asshole. I did it to KRS-One. He slipped it to me, too. He was like, here. No, you can't fall for his stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:02 I do it to him all the time. It was like real slick. And it was like, shh. I'm like, what the fuck did you do to me? Yo, here. Nah, you can't, you can't fall for his. Yeah, I do it to him all the time. It was like, it was like real slick and it was like. Yeah. Nah, I'm like, what the fuck did you do to my ass? You, you, you, yo, listen, listen. Watch out, he'll give you a syringe. I want to just throw this out in the air, throw this in the, you're officially a drink champ.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Yo, I ain't going to lie, Havoc, there's nobody who drink like you. I was in SLBs with you one night. You jumped on the motherfucking stage. You was kicking niggas, all type of crazy shit. I looked at it. And you know, H of it is little. But that nigga heart is much... His heart is the size of the Empire State Building, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Because I'm going to be honest. If you would have told me to do the podcast, your podcast, I might have been like, nah. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. You came out. You flew out. And you came in the lion's den. And he's mad comfortable.
Starting point is 01:40:43 He's mad comfortable. And he's mad comfortable. Because mad comfortable And he's mad comfortable Cause he You know why? Cause he He don't pay attention Don't leave me hanging He don't pay attention to the
Starting point is 01:40:49 He don't pay attention to the internet Cause the internet will have you Believe in some shit I don't give a fuck about the internet The internet will Create some fake drama That's some bullshit And then you start believing the drama
Starting point is 01:40:58 You be like Alright I think I do got beef with this nigga Like you know what I'm saying Cause it's the internet We bozos But I want to thank you again For coming through Stepping through
Starting point is 01:41:07 But let's get this money You heard about this tour Let's think about this tour That's the train Yeah that's Elliot Wilson's train Yeah I used to run trains On 12th street back in the day It's not that type of train
Starting point is 01:41:19 Yo I ain't gonna lie Yo let me tell you something During that infamous album Y'all made me want to rap. Like, I had doubt. I had doubted myself. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I had doubted myself.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Then I hung out with Twin. And I hung out with... Y'all went to the Palladium. This is one of my favorite Queensbridge stories of all time. When the Palladium was shutting down that night. It was the last night of the Palladium. And Nas had came. Nas had the gold Lexus.
Starting point is 01:41:45 And Twin, I I was twins guest. I wasn't. Capone, I don't think. No, Capone was home, but I think he was on the run. He had shot a dude called Pat Poose. You remember this? Is my memory good? Son, I even got more stories to it, but go ahead.
Starting point is 01:41:58 But listen, so this is my favorite Queensbridge moment. Y'all had a show at the Palladium. And it was like 900 niggas outside. Sounded like the train behind you. And then Nas drove through. He had drove through in a gold Lexus. That was like his first car. And everybody opened up as Nas drove through.
Starting point is 01:42:22 And the nigga was smoking a blunt. And he just said Queen's bread and I was like damn we need more people in my life we need more yo I can't tell you but this shit like the million man marched to me my nigga like I was like that was my favorite Queen it was at a mob deep show at the Palladium and yo I would never forget that for as long as I lived.
Starting point is 01:42:46 He really went back like that. I don't even think he came in the club this night. I think he just came in and was like, y'all niggas, because y'all did perform like five songs. And then y'all niggas beat somebody up and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:03 It was like pretty much like that, like that. And then I was like, yo, you know what? I'm bringing my whole hood out. Like, when I do that. And y'all was my inspiration. That's what's up, man. How much pussy did you have? He just takes it down.
Starting point is 01:43:19 How much pussy did I have? Yeah. Not a lot, man. Now he's downplaying it right now. No, I'm an amateur. I Yeah. Not a lot, man. Now, we're downplaying it right now. No, I'm an amateur. I swear I'm an amateur, man. Nobody believes you have it. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:43:31 You was knocking things down. Singers and all that. You was giving out dick for beats. This is a fact. Nah, nah. I always was a family, man. I always was a family. I was just an amateur.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Was there ever a tour, a loud tour with pun alcoholics and y'all? It probably was. I do remember being around a lot. You just don't remember? Are you on your DMX shit? You don't remember shit right now? Are you on your DMX shit? Nah, but you know what?
Starting point is 01:43:56 Dope. Yeah, we used to be on the road with pun a lot. Who else was there? It was Pun. Alcoholics. M.O.P. was over there. Alcoholics. M.O.P.
Starting point is 01:44:09 They wasn't really around at that time. That was kind of early. Afterwards, yeah. I wasn't being on Loud because Loud was the label at that time. The street label, too. Did you see the inside of the label? I never looked at Loud like that,
Starting point is 01:44:24 but they came out with some kind of documentary that I didn't see. You didn't see it? No, I didn't see it. When you say you didn't look at them like that, what do you mean by that? Yeah. No, I never looked at Loud as some kind of...
Starting point is 01:44:35 Like revolutionary hip-hop. Revolutionary label. No, but I big Steve Rifkin up. You know what I'm saying? But when we got there, it was just in this infancy. So when we got there... Wait, what word did you just say? Infancy.
Starting point is 01:44:50 The babies. But I mean, now looking back, the artists that they chose... Labels don't even do that today. No. You know what I'm saying? Wu-Tang, y'all, Alcoholics, Xzibit, M.O.P. When I think about it now, when I think back, I kind of regret taking it for granted. But I didn't know what we was around because we had Wu-Tang and Mobb Deep.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Then Pump was dead. So it was just really something that was like... Was there a certain A&R at Loud that was picking artists besides Steve? Was Steve involved in that? Not that I know. Because once we got there... How did you get to Loud?
Starting point is 01:45:32 Because Matty C and Scott Free. Matty C and Scott Free. Matty C is originally sourced? I think he was the unsigned hype. Loud was a cubicle when we first got there. And they said, yo, we got these All this cold Wu-Tang
Starting point is 01:45:46 And I remember Bringing it home And listening to it And I was like You know Cause you know I'm on my own shit So I was like
Starting point is 01:45:53 Whatever You know what I'm saying But then like The next three months Niggas in my whole hood Was playing They didn't even know That I was in the office
Starting point is 01:46:01 In the same building Right Of the people that Fuck with these niggas Right And then my whole hood Was playing Wu right. Of the people that fuck with these niggas. Right. And then my whole hood's playing Wu-Tang, and I'm looking at these niggas like, oh shit, I could go back to the office and give them data. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:13 You know what I'm saying? Right, right. I could give them a little bit of data. Like, this is what's going on. This is what they don't like. They gave me the CD. I didn't know what to do with it, and then I just put it to the side. But then the whole hood started going crazy.
Starting point is 01:46:26 My own hood, I was like, you like that? I was like, I know these niggas. You know what I'm saying? Now, did you ever shook ones out on your own at first, and then Loud came? And then shook ones for you? No, no, no, no, no, no. We made it. Loud gave us the budget, and then we did it.
Starting point is 01:46:41 And then we just gave Loud something to run with. You know what i'm saying they was like okay this is the song right here and he's like yeah and we took a chance but that wasn't the first shook ones it was a shit one spot too right it was it was one that you never hear you know what i'm saying and then when we put on part two is basically the remix right so when we put out the first sequence, we put it out and then nobody liked it. Nobody. Same beat? No. No, it's a different beat. It was a different beat. So people was like, nobody liked it. They was like, so what's up? And y'all was on loud at
Starting point is 01:47:19 that time. Right. And they was like, what's up, son? We gave you a second shot. So I was like, all right, fuck it. I went to the crib. And then I just made the sequence that you hit. So I made it. Off the project stove. And then I made it. And then they was listening. And then they was like, oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:47:39 And then they liked it personally. So they pushed it. You remember performing that at How Can I Be Down at Luke's Club? Of course I was there In Atlanta No, no, no
Starting point is 01:47:52 Here in Miami Luke's Club in Miami How Can I Be Down was always in Miami Listen, don't test him He remembers everything He had a tennis ball I'm a hip hop dinosaur From 1943
Starting point is 01:48:01 What club was it? Luke's Club Okabongos. Glute Club. He just had the Juvenile Hell. No, no, no. Fifth and Washington. Fifth and Washington.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I believe you. I believe you. He just had the Juvenile Hell. But we did a lot. We did a lot of like, you know what I'm saying? That was early on. You don't even have
Starting point is 01:48:18 the Juvenile Hell tape, right? No, of course not. You got to believe that, nigga. If you got a Juvenile Hell tape. I do believe him. I don't own no more before. I do believe him. How much shit did y'all do when you first came out you know I got a blur I feel like that is like a blur I was doing drugs represent the DJ in the face but didn't but then I liked it Molly for a little
Starting point is 01:48:42 while too I'm going to keep it 100 I'm going to keep it 100 Molly was alright with me For a little while For a little while For a little while Sometimes I still be looking When he came to mind He didn't know what ecstasy was
Starting point is 01:48:52 And then it was a wrap And then it was a wrap I had six months He went into space Yeah I had six months Of real drug abuse How new This is a fact
Starting point is 01:48:59 How new I was like Prince Prince with No he thought he was Prince Jimi Hendrix together He was like Yeah I was going to It was Gold Rush Gold Rush I was going Prince. Prince with Jimi Hendrix together. He was like, hey, hey. Yeah, I was going to, it was Gold Rush.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Gold Rush. I was going to Gold Rush 24 hours, nigga. I was going there to get pancakes and a lap dance. Fuck it. Where's it at? Where's it at? No, it's still over at 24 hours, but it's classy now. Is this Drupal?
Starting point is 01:49:18 It's classy now. You can't, you can't, you can't. Got bought out, got bought out. I said, don't eat with a condom on already. It's on. My shit is on already. I'm going to foul, already. It's on. My shit is on already. I'm on foul, man. It's on already.
Starting point is 01:49:28 This is pre-marriage. Pre-marriage. Pre-marriage. Pre-marriage story. Thank you for throwing it out there. Hold on, how long you been in Florida? He's been forever. No, no, no, I'm asking him.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Yeah, I'm foul. I've been foul. I've been in here foul teen years. Foul teen years. But people that don't know us don't know what that number is. Yeah, this is real shit. Listen, man. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:49:51 How many years you been in Florida, my brother? I think I'm like 10-ish. 10-ish? You at 10-ish? 10-ish. Alright, so this your hood right now. Because two of them, I think I've been more than 10, but I still had cribs in New York at that time, so I can't really... But that don't count. Yeah, that don't count. But when I flew out 10, but I still had cribs in New York at that time. So I can't really.
Starting point is 01:50:06 But that don't count. Yeah, that don't count. But when I flew out here, so I'm like eight. I'm like eight strong years. And he came religiously from Matt here. Yeah. So when you go like this, like, yo, around my way, you talk about Florida, right? I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 01:50:20 I've adapted that sometimes. I don't have around. Listen, there's no like blocks out here unless you're in Overtown. It is. People hang out in cribs out here. See, where we from, you hang out on 12th Street. You hang out on 97th Street. The hoods is different in Miami.
Starting point is 01:50:35 The hoods is different in Miami. Yeah, it's southern hoods. What's the southern hood? What's the southern hood? It's spread out. It's hood. It doesn't look. Oh, they'll kill you fast out here.
Starting point is 01:50:43 They'll kill you fast. Yeah. It's good. Miami, they'll kill you fast Out here They'll kill you fast Yeah Miami Miami they'll kill you fast Listen And listen You know who I want to Big up man I know this is very awkward
Starting point is 01:50:51 But I want to Big up Kodak Black Oh for sure The reason why I want to Big up Kodak Black Because I got to Switch up my years My years of living in Miami
Starting point is 01:51:00 And my years of living In Broward I also lived in Broward And I've always been And you never Repped Broward So now you're Repping Broward Now you're about to Rep Broward I was on living in Broward. I also lived in Broward and I've always been... And you never repped Broward. Now you're repping Broward. Now you're about to rep Broward?
Starting point is 01:51:08 I was on parole in Broward. Yeah, you're about to flip it. What are you talking about? What's the difference? No, it's like... It's different counties. You know, I'll break it down good for you. Easy for you.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Queensbridge and Ravenswood is the same thing. But it's not the same thing. I don't think that's a good way Yes it is Because it's right down the block It's like Queens and Brooklyn But it's like Queens and Brooklyn Is it in Miami?
Starting point is 01:51:33 No it's not It's in a different city Different county Queens and Brooklyn Yes and Broward Broward is Fort Lauderdale You know Fort Lauderdale Is it close to Miami?
Starting point is 01:51:43 Close Yeah It's like fucking But Jersey is close to New York It's the same shit Yeah you can do Jersey to New York I think Jersey to New York Makes more sense
Starting point is 01:51:51 Yeah And Broward But you lived in Broward And your studio's in Broward Yes my studio is in Broward I was on probation in Broward So I wanted to be And they now popping
Starting point is 01:52:00 With Kodak Black Let's make some noise For Kodak Black Yeah Pompano Beach That's what you know Yeah And we got Havoc to smoke Bring Kodak Black. Let's make some noise for Kodak Black. Yeah, Pomper No Beach. That's what you want. And we got Havoc to smoke. Drink Kodak!
Starting point is 01:52:16 Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Now, Havoc, Queensbridge. I want to just be clear. There's no beef with Capone or Noriega or Havoc.
Starting point is 01:52:43 I really appreciate you for coming here and just sitting here. But this tour, is this something that you think that we can pull off? I think that we could really pull it off and it would really be dope. And I think that the fans would love it more than we even think. I believe so. You'll be huge. I believe so. I believe so, man.
Starting point is 01:53:05 I definitely believe so. Hold on. Let me light this world corner. You're going to like this bolt shit right now. You don't like this smell? You didn't like it
Starting point is 01:53:14 when Currency was here, so why the fuck do you like it now? No, because I was trying to win. Like when I win my argument. I don't mind it,
Starting point is 01:53:22 but you blow it into my fucking face. Are you petty, Havoc? I'm a petty nigga. I'm very petty. Like, when you break up with a bitch and you pull her a purse. Is that a Queens thing?
Starting point is 01:53:28 The petty thing? If you pull her a purse, do you take the purse back? It depends how much it costs. I got to rhyme like that. I said, I used to buy a bitch's purse, break up with him,
Starting point is 01:53:40 take the purse back. Damn. It's a fact. I'm a petty nigga. What the fuck? You surprised? And this is when I was rich, fact. I'm a petty nigga. What the fuck? You surprised? And this is when I was rich, rich.
Starting point is 01:53:48 I'm still surprised when you get petty. Nah, I'm mad petty. You don't... Listen, if Jay-Z called me over a podcast, that is petty.
Starting point is 01:53:57 That means rich... All rich niggas is petty. I think we should all accept our pettiness. Does anybody disagree? I disagree. Listen, accept your pettiness. Have... Do you think you don't accept your pettiness. Does anybody disagree? I disagree. Listen, accept your pettiness. Do you think you don't accept your pettiness? I really accept it.
Starting point is 01:54:13 You ever took shit back from a bitch? Did I ever what? Take shit back from a bitch. Of course. Let's describe the situation. I got mad stories if you want me to go first. I gave her 20 Gs. And then we was about to break up. I said, I want my 20 Gs.
Starting point is 01:54:32 And she gave it to me back. Wait up. Big up to her, though, for having the 20 Gs. I got to know what year this is because I want to know was her pussy sunshine? Did you throw it in the air
Starting point is 01:54:41 and it turned into sunshine? Was it that? Was it that? Was it that? It was sunshine. It was sunshine? I'm just joking. I'm just joking. But not every chick would have the 20 Gs to give back, though.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Huh? What happened? I mean, thank God she had the 20 Gs to give back. Right. Yeah, thank God for her bank. Right. Oh, she spent it and still had it? How?
Starting point is 01:55:01 No, she had the 20 Gs. I gave it to her, but she still had it, and I took it back. But that's being an Indian giver. That was fab. No, I'm an Indian giver. That was fab. That's called pettiness. And y'all from Queens, y'all established.
Starting point is 01:55:11 I don't think it's a Queens thing. I don't think it's a Queens thing. I shouldn't have said that. I think it's a me thing. No, I think it's a Queens thing. Y'all established that right now. Oh, you just, what? Oh, you think Queens think it's a sped?
Starting point is 01:55:19 You just said that. I'm saying I'm petty. I ain't representing Queens in this moment right now. I ain't representing Queens in this moment right now I'm representing me and but I'm asking my brother from Queens. Are you petty you said he said yeah Okay, yeah friend. Have you taken have you brought a bit something and just say oh listen we don't you fucking lie Let's time out you cut a bitch off For going to Cisco Video You ain't even seen the video And you stopped fucking with her
Starting point is 01:55:50 Listen, don't lie That relationship was on the down slope Hold on, hold on Let's ask the one girl in the room Besides the bartender Is that Come here, come here You're not giving the full situation
Starting point is 01:56:01 You don't have to say her name Is that petty Listen, his girl called him I don't know if he was in love You're making up the story I'm You don't have to say your name. Is that Petty? Listen, his girl called him. I don't know if he was in love. You're making up the story, right? Definitely, yeah. Go ahead, go ahead. Go with your fake story.
Starting point is 01:56:11 I'm just going with the fake story, right? He found out his girl was going to Cisco Video. And he broke up with her right there. Is that Petty? That's not the way it went down. I'm dyslexic. I'm breaking it down dyslexically. What video was it? The thong song? It wasn't the thong song. though but it is in I'm dyslexic I'm breaking it down my girl she was an aspiring model at the time uh-huh no
Starting point is 01:56:45 you said no I didn't set myself up as soon as she started doing videos I was done I didn't set myself up but she was a song song I'm like I'm out I'm out of this video homie I'm a DJ I'm working this world. I'm not trying to be in the same room of dudes with my broad. Nah, I'm out of there. I feel you. I'm out of there. We just interviewed Cisco. He was still mad about it.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Let's make some noise. You all paying. Listen, all I'm trying to say is. That's a different pay. That's a different pay. You're trying to separate yourself from me. And she was in the Jay-Z, Pimp C, and G.G.K. video. I mean, the big pimping. She was in big pim-Z, Pimp C, and Gigi K video.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Big Pimpin'. She was in Big Pimpin'. They put all the champagne on her ass. I'm out of here. You tell me. Yo. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
Starting point is 01:57:38 Yo. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, wait, wait, wait. Thong Song was first, I was out. Big Pimpin' came, I was already out. I was like, thank God.
Starting point is 01:57:53 You got to piss again? Having fun. I'm sorry. I got to piss this time too. Hold on, will you pause? Eventually, I have to piss. And then we're going to close it out after this. There's a Cuban piss coming.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Yo, that was dope, that was dope. Yo, I didn't know it was a big ring here. Yeah. I love that shit. I know. But I was already out of that. No, you made the right choice. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:58:12 The thong song, listen, because when I heard you, I heard you. And it was you, Wally. Listen. She wasn't with you, Wally. I wasn't with you, Wally. She wasn't with you, Wally. I wasn't there. Yeah, I wasn't. I was thong. It usedi! He was in Uchihuali! I was in Uchihuali!
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah, I was out! Huh? I was out, I was out! I saw the future! I saw the future! I said, baby, think I'm in! I'm glad I'm out of here! There's no coming back from Uchihuali, though. There's no coming back
Starting point is 01:58:42 from the thong song, dude! He got hit, man. I was trying to throw you something like to save you out of here. No, I'm proud of you. Hold on. I forgot what you want. Those three videos. And she wasn't fucking Ricky Martin's crazy song. Ah, not Ricky Martin.
Starting point is 01:59:07 La vida loca. Yeah, she was in La vida loca, yo. Yo, she's so good. Ricky Martin and me and Rare Bob. Them three niggas are just naked. She must have been a bitch. Yeah. Boy.
Starting point is 01:59:17 But that was out early. Yo, sis, baby. That's the point I'm saying. Yo, sis, yo, sis. Yo, I had bitches, nigga. She must have been a bitch. I had to go back to the podcast like the new Prince. I think I had bitches, bro. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I didn't know if he still had blonde hair, but Sisqo still got bitches.
Starting point is 01:59:46 So let me just... this is a side interview. Do you think Sisqo fucked that bitch? Nah, but you know who I think did? The cricket-lookin' dude from, um... What's these dudes' names? Poison. What's the dudes' names from Poison? Gilbert Duvall. Gilbert Duvall. What's the cricket-lookin', what's the dudes name from Poison? What's the cricket looking dude? Carlito.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Ronnie. Ronnie? I think homie did it. He was. No addition, but we about to come out. Where Carlito at? Pigeon's for the team. Missing an action.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Shh. That ain't good. No, I said put that here for Margie. Your twin, no Snapchat, did they tell you? Actually Twin no snapchat It's drunk. Who is it? That's it. Nah, but you invited him. Somebody had to send him a picture of my hair. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy.
Starting point is 02:00:50 It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy.
Starting point is 02:00:58 It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a twin guy. It's a new religion. I don't give a fuck. Can I ask him a producer question real quick? Yes. Yo.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Are we having... It's what you call it. You like the MPC or Machine better? Which one's better for you? It's a producer question. Mad producers want to know. The Machine. Yeah? Why is that?
Starting point is 02:01:18 Because it corresponds with the laptops. The MPC won't do that. The new one does, but, you know, native instruments beat them to it. The NBC won't do that. The new one does, but you know, native instruments beat them to it. The workflow. Yeah, the workflow is quicker and better. So I would definitely say the machine.
Starting point is 02:01:35 And let me ask you the two-part question before we get up out of here. Who's your favorite producer? My favorite producer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my favorite producer my favorite producer yeah so who's a producer you will want to work with Quincy Jones whether you would want to rhyme over their beats over they beat Quincy Jones That's hard I mean he made Michael Jackson
Starting point is 02:02:07 So Quincy Jones made a lot of I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:10 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:10 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:10 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:10 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:10 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:11 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made
Starting point is 02:02:11 I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made I mean he made yeah we can fucking do it he'd be like yeah we can do it look what I did for Michael Jackson and this is how we're gonna do it and we're gonna make
Starting point is 02:02:27 an off the wall if he told me I'm gonna make an off the wall then I'm gonna fucking agree with him because I know that he did
Starting point is 02:02:35 make an off the wall you understand what I'm saying like listen to off the wall don't listen to Thriller listen to
Starting point is 02:02:42 off the wall Michael Jackson hooked up with Quincy Jones and they did that are we going for a second time? That's that we're all calling right now havoc. God damn it No, don't kill our guest bro that That'll be the ultimate goal. Ultimate goal. If one of our guests died, I would die with him. Whatever, whatever. Or he'd stab me.
Starting point is 02:03:10 He'd stab me. Yo, but Havoc, let me tell you something, man. Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I can't thank you enough. This ain't no Fordham podcast. This is real life because, you know,
Starting point is 02:03:20 we have a career. When you've been in this game for 20 years, this is a career. We built, we built shit career. When you've been in this game for 20 years, this is a career. We built shit off of what we've done. And I was so glad when you wanted to be the man, the big man of all four of us. I got to credit you for this. Because if you didn't come out here, there would still be dumb rumors of Capone and Noriega and Marv D, dumb beef.
Starting point is 02:03:44 You came out here I really can't thank you enough To appreciate you for coming out here And just deadening these fucking Dumb ass rumors And let's get motherfucking money Cause we are young black fucking people Who came from the ghetto
Starting point is 02:04:00 Came from a similar ghetto The same trains you gotta take to go to your hood The same trains you gotta take to go to your hood, the same trains you gotta take to go to my hood. You the fucking silent partner. And I just want to thank you once again for putting these rumors to rest. There is no Capone and Noriega, Mob Deep, Beef. There's none of
Starting point is 02:04:18 that. We are family. We're gonna keep this shit going, keep getting money. This tour is supposed to be possible with Nas, Mob Deep, and Capone and Noriega. And we want to motherfucking make that happen, man. You know what I'm saying? Let's get this money, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:32 And you got that silent partner, my dude. Is that the note you want to leave it on? I want to say real quick. I rarely give my last speeches. You know what I'm saying? But on the side of a DJ and a fan, and I'm telling y'all, there's DJs in the room right now, Havoc.
Starting point is 02:04:54 The records y'all made, y'all inspired us. Yes. We love playing those records. Yes. Those are hip-hop records. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Those are classic records.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Yes. And we thank you We thank you and Prodigy And we thank you for the production And the verses man Thanks a lot One last question When you made Quiet Storm You think that that was going to start a beef
Starting point is 02:05:20 Between Foxy and Kim Did you know that or no? You didn't know I had no idea. You had no idea. And then Alchemist, who was like your partner, did Bang Bang,
Starting point is 02:05:30 which was like equivalent to like Foxy answering her. Was that bugged out? Because, you know, we didn't plan that. We just was doing a record and she came in. Did you ever look at it like that?
Starting point is 02:05:43 No, I definitely didn't look at it like that. You was getting too much pussy and too much money. Nah, I definitely didn't look at it like that. That's what the whole thing is. Hold up, hold up, hold up. You be minding your business. That's real shit. We did the quiet stuff and shit.
Starting point is 02:05:56 I was like, fuck it, they're Cloud 9. Right, right. And then I heard some shit that How 97. Yeah, yeah, How 97 is 57 shootouts. That's crazy. But I didn't give a shit. You know, I ain't really care about all that.
Starting point is 02:06:16 Alright. It never was about that to me. Because it just was too far apart. You know what I'm saying? Like really like really really far apart and you worked your big junior mafia those are my peoples you're gonna get trying to get our little seeds up here too hopefully we get a little camo or foxy or somebody oh females ain't been with us lately they don't like this why they i don't. I was surprised the bartenders came.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Did I say that right? Every time you say that, I think of homie from the bartenders. That's why I said it. It's a female word for bar. It should be bartender out. No. Yeah, it should be. Let's make up another word. Goddamn, man.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Come on. Was you ever befuddled by the interview at any point? What that mean? He's befuddled right now. I just learned that word. I learned that word. the interview at any point what that mean yo but listen have it once again I can't thank you so much man I really appreciate you for coming here because this is all jokes man for the fans that don't know we you know we play with the facts you know I'm saying like that's that's what it is man it's drunk facts you what I'm saying And we have fun And you sat in
Starting point is 02:07:26 You didn't try to change nothing You did everything That a real nigga do We got so many people Good sport man Trying to come here And I was I ain't gonna lie to you
Starting point is 02:07:34 I can't tell you I won't lie to you I was so excited about this I was trying to pick out My outfit Yo homie He said he was gonna Iron his outfit yesterday
Starting point is 02:07:42 Yeah I tried to pick out My outfit early But I fucked up I couldn't match the sneakers out my outfit early, but I fucked up. I couldn't match the sneakers that I wanted to wear, so I fucked up. No, no, no. These are Supremes. 23. These are very...
Starting point is 02:07:52 Supreme 94. They're very limited. He was excited. I wanted... Because my man Ray from 8 and 9. Where we at? We at 8 and 9. Yo, we got...
Starting point is 02:08:00 We suck at promoting ourselves. At promoting ourselves, yeah. Yo, pick up our 8 and 9 gear, man. 8 and 9.com. 8 and 9.com. Give me some exclusive J's. I don't got them on now. But they got the LJ's.
Starting point is 02:08:10 The Supreme J's, though. These are exclusive shoes. And they clean them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't going to lie. Don't look at my snake. It's dirty. I forget where I was at.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I was in Europe somewhere, Paris or something. And I rolled over my own shoe. I can't even swing on nobody. Like, I rolled over my old shoe. I was in Europe somewhere, Paris or something. And I rolled over my own shoe. I can't even swing on nobody. Like, I rolled over my old shoe. I was like, oh! Like, I was like, oh! You almost hit yourself. You almost hit yourself.
Starting point is 02:08:32 I wanted to be the first nigga I smelled that didn't use deodorant. Like, I was like, yo, nigga. You the reason why Jay's is fucked up by Havoc, man. Yo, this is real shit, man. You got the album out. Now, are you going to put on an artist? Is it your turn to put on an artist? Like, yo, like, with people, you produce people like Kanye, Puff Daddy, you know what I'm
Starting point is 02:08:56 saying? Eminem. Did you do something for Eminem, too? Like, is it your turn to put on the new guy? Nope. It's not my turn to put on the new guy. Keep doing what you do. Be a selfish ass nigga.
Starting point is 02:09:08 No, no, no. Don't make some noise. You should be a selfish. That was the selfish ass ass. Nah, but. Go ahead. No, no, no. But what I'm trying to say is the person that I do put out is going to be really special.
Starting point is 02:09:21 So that's why I just don't like any artists. Producing? Or you might be working, homie. Whoever the fuck he's working on. Whoever I put out is going to be very special. Trust me. Now, have you been looking for that type of artist? A lot of stuff been coming to me. Like really, really, really
Starting point is 02:09:37 good stuff. Eddie Giggs is ready though, I think. Eddie Giggs. Eddie Giggs, where you at? Eddie Giggs, can you sing your favorite song? Chi Giggs. Eddie Giggs. Eddie Giggs, where you at? What's the name of your song? Eddie Giggs, can you sing your favorite song? Chi-Chi-Chao, what's your name? Chi-Chi-Chao Man. Chi-Chi-Chao Man.
Starting point is 02:09:50 Eddie Giggs, where you at? Come on, come on, Eddie Giggs. He's got the best song. He got a demo. He got a demo. Eddie Giggs, Eddie Giggs. Yo, listen, this is the ass eater on the show. Chi-Chi-Chao Man.
Starting point is 02:10:00 It's the ass eater. Do it, do it, do it. Do it now. Chi-Chi-Chao Man. I don't remember. What's the verse? Chi-Chi-. Listen, he's famous for eating that. I don't remember. It wasn't the first. Chicken chow mein. It was a half a verse.
Starting point is 02:10:07 I don't remember. Listen, it's not a real thing. You don't want to hear it. What is it about? Chicken chow mein. Yo, this time you don't want to hear it. Sing it, though. Chicken chow mein.
Starting point is 02:10:13 You want to hear it? Yeah, you want to hear it. You want to hear it? Have it. You want to hear it. Yo, stop being a bitch. You want to hear it? Hell yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Yeah. Play chicken chow mein. Play chicken chow mein. Play chicken chow mein. You got to find the friend. You got to find the friend. That's my word. Nobody's going to sing that shit. Play chicken chow Mein. Play Chicken Chow Mein. He's got to fight the crowd. That's my word. Nobody's going to sing that shit.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Play Chicken Chow Mein. It's horrible. Oh, he's going to play the song. It's horrible. But he won. But you got to rap the Chicken Chow Mein. Yeah, rap it, play it, and rap it. I don't remember. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:38 What's the word? What's the word? All right. But tell Havoc how much ass you ate. I want some Chicken Chow Mein. That's what I get out of it. That's what I get out of it. Okay, come here, Eddie. But tell Havoc how much ass you ate. I want some chicken chow mein. That's what I eat. Okay, come here, Eddie. Tell Havik how much ass you ate. If you had to count how much asses, assholes,
Starting point is 02:10:52 you ever... I don't got enough fingers on my hand. You don't have enough fingers on your ass. It's already done. Let me ask you something. Use the EFM mic. Let me ask you something. Hey, pause.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Was you offended or was you into like, into when they said, eat the booty like groceries? Was you pro or was you con? I was singing along with it. Nah, he said he's like Costco. But did you ever reference that? No, no, no. So what do you call it when you eat ass?
Starting point is 02:11:20 I eat ass. Well, where does it all go? You don't got a special word? He eats ass, Troy. Like, you ain't with your bitch and you be like, Chupaculo. You don't got a special word? He eats asteroids. You ain't with your bitch and you be like, you don't want to do it. Get away.
Starting point is 02:11:31 Get away. God damn. He don't even have a special night. He just eat ass. Just ready to eat ass. Hashtag it eats ass. I've seen him eat a porno bitch ass. Live. She just did ass porn.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Yes, yes. Havoc is like, these niggas is crazy. No, real talk. Havoc, no joke. Let's end it on this note. She did ass porn. And Eddie said, I love the booty. Now, let's ask Havoc. Let's ask Havoc.
Starting point is 02:11:59 We ask all our guests this. Do you eat ass? I'm going to be honest, Javi. You look like you... You look like you visit the ass corner often. It looks like you hang on an ass block. I'm going to keep it 100 with you. He's on Ass Avenue and ass block. I'm going to keep it 100 with you. He's on ass avenue and ass block.
Starting point is 02:12:26 It looks like he in the projects. Assonio. Come on. Keep it real. We're the drink champs. You got to inspire these young people. I got a white. I got a white.
Starting point is 02:12:40 We didn't know that. We didn't know that. Let me be respectful, man. We didn't know that. Hip hop is respectful. We didn't know that. We didn't know that. Let him be respectful, man. We didn't know that. Hip-hop is respectful. We didn't know he had a shout. I think he should have said that from the beginning. We've been going in for half an hour.
Starting point is 02:12:53 You're just not listening, man. No, he did. Yes, he did. And you're not listening. Havoc is crazy. Thank you. Really appreciate you for coming. Having fun.
Starting point is 02:13:04 This is jokes. And you got the album out right now. It's called Silent Partner. Silent Partner is out right now. And you said what's next. We asked you what's next. You said you're going to find a special artist. You got a script that you're writing.
Starting point is 02:13:20 And is there any other thing that you could, you know. Yeah, it's going to be definitely crazy the movie that I'm about to put out right now. Mmm. Mmm. And wait, wait. Can we do a Dream Champ song with Havoc producing it? Oh, yeah. So just put it. Havoc is a Dream Champ. Y'all did the original Dream Champ song. Let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 02:13:38 Let me tell you something. Where the mic at? I've been everywhere. Right, right, right, right, right. Listen, man. I've been everywhere. He's a Dream Champ. He trying to be cool. No, he's the original Dream Champ. That's what I'm saying. He's being right. Listen, man, I bet everyone, he's a drink champ. He trying to be cool. No, he's the original drink champ. That's what I'm saying. He's being cool. Listen, listen, I seen having drink gallons. This is my fact.
Starting point is 02:13:53 And hold it down. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J.
Starting point is 02:13:55 E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J. E&J.
Starting point is 02:13:57 E&J. E&J. E&J. Did you love E&J at one point? Or Danny? Which one do you like more? E&J. E&J was cool.
Starting point is 02:14:02 E&J was cool. Tell the people who Danny is. Because people didn't know that in the South. St. Ives. St. Ives. Oh, nasty. St. Ives. Who drunk that shit before?
Starting point is 02:14:16 I drank St. Ives. I drank that shit because of your song. St. Ives, Mad Dog 2020. You drank MD 2020? Special food? Hell no. Oh, well, we drank that shit. Hell no.
Starting point is 02:14:29 That's like... And Cisco. You ever drank Cisco? You drank Cisco. Cisco... Cisco's disgusting. If you from Queensbridge, you drunk Cisco. We drank Cisco here.
Starting point is 02:14:40 But they ain't really selling it out there like that. Yeah. They sold it in Jamaica Avenue They sold it in Kendall So let me ask you the last question Did you tell Prodigy you came in? Last of three by the way Did you tell Prodigy you came in?
Starting point is 02:14:55 Woo Why I gotta tell somebody? He's a grown ass man Because listen I wanna end this once and for all Prodigy we love you We love you please Prodigy Come out here you from Left Frack
Starting point is 02:15:10 It's about time you claim your roots Come back home that's what the blood niggas say They be like come home Solid partner I thank you for coming Havoc Man and You got anything else you want to say to the fans? Socials.
Starting point is 02:15:26 Give us your socials at least. And we get you drunk. All your websites, your social medias. Everything. We got you. We got you. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:15:34 The mic's easy. Talk to the mic, though. Talk to the mic. The people want to hear you. Yeah, the people. No, the... Havoc drunk. I'm not drunk.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I'm lost. I'm going to be honest. I don't even know where the mic's at the point you is to be sober I like the joke I'm gonna be honest he's good he's good you remember you were sober like for like like how long you did how long you were sober for like two years well you don't fuck that up right now. Thank you very much. No, no, no. I've been so in love for like two years too.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Thank you, Havoc. We love you, bro. Yo, make some noise. And we got to buck up. And we, yo. Hold on, hold on. Now we got to do the drop. We got to do the drop.
Starting point is 02:16:20 We got to twist it. This is wonderful. Come on, we got to do the drop. We got to do the drop. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:16:26 We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:16:26 We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:16:27 We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:16:27 We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:16:28 We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:16:42 We'll do it. Find all your favorite movies and shows faster with Xfinity. Just speak into the excellent voice remote to search across live TV, on demand, even Netflix and Prime Video. Now that's simple, easy, awesome. Go to Xfinity.com, call 1-800-XFINITY or visit a store today. Restrictions apply. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future
Starting point is 02:17:40 where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun. This week on Dope Labs, Titi and I dive into the world of probiotics, the hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing. With expert insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:18:40 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes.
Starting point is 02:18:55 We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.