Drink Champs - Episode 171 w/ Berner
Episode Date: August 23, 2019N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On this episode the *cough, cough, cough* Smoke Champs sit down and burn up with Berner! Listen as he talks about his hempire, giving us gems about how he gr...ew his Cookies brand. Berner also shares the story of how he fell in love with cannabis, the power of being an independent artist and releasing over 30 albums. Berner also shares stories of working with the legend Cam'ron, along with Wiz Khalifa and Drink Champs alumni, Curren$y. Berner also gets personal and shares his trap stories and much much more!DRINK CHAMPS EXCLUSIVE - In this episode listen to "ENERGY" the new song by N.O.R.E. (produced by Hazardis Soundz)BlueChew: Get your first shipment free at BlueChew.com, promo code CHAMPS. Just pay $5 shipping!Bombas: Get 20% off your first purchase at Bombas.com/DrinkChamps.Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Many in the past have tried to do what I did.
That podcast I did.
Platinum records I did.
Got us out the hood.
It's good.
You know what I did.
$2 million condo.
Made back for hardo.
Did it myself, but had a sense like Rondo.
New Yorkers. British knights and British walkers. Hugging the block like it's a bunch of stalkers
I used to cook with the work, fuck it up and blame it on the club
He was Dominican, he thought I was, he showed me love
But niggas choke under pressure, God
Invited choke and he folded under pressure, God
If you the homie, you can rely on me
I won't let a human being come and lie on me
So never tell me what I did and we didn't do.
Drink, tap the streets.
Niggas, we ain't political.
I'm still happy to be here.
It's still relevant.
It's evident.
Some niggas clowns.
It's like the president.
So I'ma stay around positivity.
All I got time for in my vicinity.
Holy Trinity, Kennedy, Yosemite, Tiffany had epiphany.
Fruit black to Tivoli.
Dramatically, mathematically, automatically
Casually, battery, salary, lost gallery
I remember I bought bullets from jungle
Same night I got banned from the tunnel
But I don't like to talk about my past life
Cause my new life, new ice is too nice
Now I've interviewed millions in a week
Since it dropped me and Fox ain't speak
I say that with love like a sister
I say that with love because I miss her
And me and Phone still talk about the war report
And still getting money just off the war report
Nicki went to Joe, we laugh and respected that
Queens get the money, that's first, never neglected that
Fat Joe squashed it with Jay, see I connected that
Both sides have respect for the God and I accepted that
These bars gonna hit em like a Mickey
This reached out to be thinkin' top 50 I'm on that energy, God and I accepted that. These bars gonna hit them like a Mickey. Let's reach out to rethink your top 50.
I'm on that energy, God.
I need that energy.
I'm on that energy, God.
I need that energy.
I'm on that energy, God.
I need that energy.
We on that energy, God.
We need that energy.
I'm on that energy, God.
I need that energy.
I'm on that energy, God.
I need that energy.
I'm on that energy, God.
I need that energy.
We on that energy, God.
We need that energy I'm on that energy God I need that energy We on that energy God we need that energy
What a good beat
Hopefully this is what it's to be
This is your boy
N-A-O-N-A-N
What up it's DJ EFN in English
And this is military
Crazy raw
Motherfucking
Uh uh uh uh
Dream champ
Why are you taking this backwards?
I like that
I like that
Motherfucking podcast
Make some noise!
Now, when you're talking about Cannabis King,
when you're talking about our entrepreneurial,
when you're talking about our original staple
of the cannabis game,
there's no better person than our guest today.
He's got 16 albums.
He's a part of everything that cannabis has to do.
He dresses in his own goddamn clothes.
Goddamn it, me too.
He's out here.
He got a whole album with Cam'ron.
I can't even get him featured with Cam'ron.
I can't even get him on the phone.
This man got a whole album with Cam'ron.
He out here with a whole album with B-Real.
This guy's out here giving to the culture, shining with the phone. This man got a whole album with Cam'ron. He out here with a whole album with B-Real. This guy's out here
giving to the culture,
shining with the culture.
He's doing what he gotta do.
In case you don't know
what we're talking about,
we're talking about big.
Burner, make some noise!
That's right.
Now, Burner,
you are hands down
one of the,
when anybody thinks of cannabis
and the legalization of cannabis, not just cannabis because the legalization of it, cookies come up.
So I want to ask, I want to get straight to it, because are you the inventor of cookies?
Yeah, you know, at the end of the day, my partner, Jai, shout out to Jigga, was from my neighborhood.
And, you know, look, he was bringing the bags and I was moving them.
I was doing my thing.
I was the brander, the creator, the hype, hype the machine the engine behind getting it where it needed to be
and i was rapping at the time too so i just happened to get it cracking so you know my boy
breeze he bred everything he bred the girl scout cookies he bred the gelato the sunset shirt you
know a lot of things you see in the world today right you know about the bud yeah the bud he
bred it but you know i had to do the pipe up on it the branding the name in the world today right you know about the bud yeah the bud he bred it but
you know i had to do the pipe up on it the branding the name the name the strains i take
care of the packaging the marketing the business behind it i'm actually the business behind cookies
you know i mean so it is kind of good i'm glad you asked a lot of people think i created it
you know i didn't physically create cookies i just put that motherfucker on the map
you got it cracking and built the brand around it. You know what I mean? Probably one of the first cannabis brands with an identity, a colorway, a logo, and
a full brand behind it.
Shit, you got a clothing line that's popular.
Yeah, the clothing line itself is fucking doing numbers.
And so you started out in San Francisco?
Bay Area, San Francisco, yeah.
Okay, and you spent time in Arizona at one point.
Yeah, my dad said he was going to open up a Mexican restaurant in Arizona.
We moved out there.
He got caught cheating and he never came out.
You know Pops?
He did his thing.
I was back and forth. I'd get in trouble in Arizona.
I'd go back to the Bay. I'd get in trouble in the Bay.
Go back to Arizona. Ended up in the Bay.
So how did you
develop your love?
Because I imagine coming up
it wasn't always legal.
I'm going to give you
the real story.
This is drink chance.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
A.K.A. smoke chance.
Let's go, let's go.
Today is smoke chance.
You know what I mean?
Hey, Gary Payton,
thank you,
because you're going to
have us loaded in a little bit.
Yes, sir.
But look,
I found my love for the plant
when I went back.
So when I was in Arizona,
my homies,
big brothers,
had big old bales
full of weed. I'm talking about vet rooms. Do they have good weed in Arizona? homies big brothers had big old bales full of weed
I'm talking about that. Good weed Arizona's Arizona's trash look like they weed is look we gonna get to us
Okay, they had bales like big bales bedrooms closets houses for this shit
We go in there as little kids and take out fucking handfuls and eat it and roll it up and
Walgreens receipts and smoking and not know what to do with it was playing with it was watching Friday
Having fun with the weed and when I went back to California...
And this is grow houses?
No, this is just bales of Mexican weed.
You're holding the shit.
Yeah, they was moving big weight.
When I went back to California,
I told all my homies, older brothers
that was in the business at the time.
I was like fifth, sixth grade, bro.
I was like, look, out in Arizona,
they got bales and they're like, nah, bro.
You know how much this shit costs?
And they showed me bomb. We used to call, nah, bro, you know how much this shit costs? And they showed me Bomb.
We used to call it Drow.
Bomb.
$20 a gram.
And I was just blown away because it beat everything I've ever seen in Arizona.
So when I fell in love with cannabis is when I took that first flight from California to AZ.
I took an OG long sock, cut a hole in that bitch, put it in my pants, let it hang down my pants.
I brought two zips. And when I showed up to Arizona with that thang, I realized the impact that good weed
has.
The conversation that starts and just how powerful it is having something that no one
else can get.
That's when I fell in love with the weed.
You know, the crazy shit about that is, like, I come from, I'm from Lefrak City, Queens,
and for a long time, we never had good weed.
So when we had good weed We would roll skinny blunts
And it was crazy
Because anytime I
Like meet somebody
From San Francisco
Or meet somebody
From California
You liked our
Crippy down here
Yeah but this
Yeah this is
Less laid on
But the crazy thing is
I will always know
When a person
Come from good weed
Because they will
Always have the
Fattest blunts
And San Francisco
Like you guys
Are so spoiled out there
because you guys
never had bad weed.
Like,
I don't remember ever
going to San Francisco
and having bad weed.
Dude,
I would walk down the streets
as a kid,
as a real young kid
and people would just be
putting nugs on their forehead
and they'd be like,
buds,
buds,
buds.
And it would stick
to their forehead
and I just fell in love
with the culture
and man,
that shit's been so good
for so many years.
So,
you know,
I had to get in, bro.
I had to. in bro i had to
all right once i seen the arizona action and just really understanding and also doing music
i'll pull up in you know when i first started pull around some big artists they got big whips
big chains multi-platinum records but you ain't got this right you do not have this i got it right
god damn you gotta know me god damn it i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you a little nothing so you gotta call me you gotta be my friend by the money you gotta hit me
up there's no now we're together we're united through the plan so you're smoking tobacco
now i'm a roll it's a nice gary a nice good chunk out the vibe out the vibe gary payton now
okay so how did let's let's get into that uh because that's the new weed that's uh that's
coming up that's actually gary payton though dude the new weed that's coming up. That's actually Gary Payton, though.
Dude, the randomest shit happened, bro.
Shout out to Gary Payton.
When you plant seeds, you number them.
Seed 1 through 300 or 1 through 20, 1 through 80.
Well, we did about, I think only like 15 strains, 15 seeds on this phenol hunt.
And the number 20 was just popping.
And my boy powers up naturally
just started calling it that gp that payton well his sons follow me i guess and so just in the few
times that we mentioned it online some people in oakland started bootlegging it okay burns about
to pop off to gary payton they made fake baggies and everything so his sons hit him i believe
and then told him there's bags floating around he thought we were the ones putting out the fake bags.
And so when I got with him, he hit me and threw some mutual friends, powerful people, may I say.
And we sat down for lunch in Oakland.
He pulled up in the white Range Rover, bolo, hopped out like a gangster.
And I think he thought I was on some bullshit.
And when I broke it down to him, I'm like, nah, I would never put out a bag that looks like that.
But I do have this strain. I showed it to him him, I'm like, nah, I would never put out a bag that looks like that. But I do have
this strain. I showed it to him at lunch.
Busted out the whole restaurant smell. I said, look,
we could do this. And I think it'd be
cool because he don't smoke weed, but
he's the Hall of
Famer. He's the glove. He's the man.
His attitude is everything. I said, look,
I want to put you in a bag like a Wheaties box.
I want to be the first person to do that shit.
And I want to do it legitimately. Can you do that?
He said, I'm already in the Hall of Fame.
They can't take shit from me, baby boy.
Let's do it.
And so out of nowhere, Gabe Payton has the best weed in the market right now.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
But it happened organically.
Everyone hits me to do strains.
Let's do this.
Let's do a strain.
I know you want a strain.
I want a platinum record.
I don't got one.
It is right there.
So, you know, at the end of the day,
I just like to do shit with people
that comes organic and natural.
You know what I mean?
That's a dope story.
Let's make some noise for that.
Let me see the back of that.
Let's just go.
It's cool, man.
And bust that bitch open
and smell that motherfucking butt.
I thought he smoked.
That's why I thought it came together.
That's a dope story.
Nah, he just hit me.
He thought I was on some bullshit.
Gary's about his shit, bro.
He thought I was getting money playing him. This reminds me of Cookies, though, a dope story. Nah, he just hit me. He thought I was on some bullshit. Gary's about his shit, bro. He thought I was getting money
playing him. This reminds me of Cookies, though,
a little bit. It's fucking powerful
shit. This one joint, anyone around us
that's going to get it, they're going to hit this motherfucker
and it's going to change a little bit, for sure.
It's got a little
more funk to it. I like the smell.
Remember, it's got to it.
You're going to smoke some weed today.
I got a chance. I got smoke champs.
Don't smoke it.
Maybe one hit for the burn.
One hit.
I don't drink.
I'm going to have a little something here on drink champs.
So what are you doing right now?
Are you in Miami?
I'm in Miami.
I did a music video, and I'm in the studio next door, which is currently like the craziest hot box ever.
I'm loaded right now.
I'm just going to keep 1,000. If I st'm loaded right now, I'm just gonna keep 1,000.
If I stutter on my words, I'm high as a motherfucker.
That's all good, brother, that's all good.
Happens all the time.
I'm out here, I'm shooting a video
and recording some music, catching some vibes real quick.
You got a new record with Fat Joe, right?
Man, you know about that.
Yeah, I'm on point, I'm on point.
Yeah, nah, yes, De La Ghetto and Fat Joe.
Oh, okay, shit, I got a record with De La Ghetto, don't I?
Yeah.
All right, cool. You got somebody else?
I'm mad high, man.
I'll be forgetting, nigga.
Shit's dope.
Yeah, I'm doing a new album called La Plaza.
It's like, I don't speak Spanish, but you know, look, I'm Mexican and Italian.
Right.
You know, and I just want to embrace the Latin side of me.
And we're doing a little crossover where I do English, they do Latin.
And it's dope because it's over random records.
Like, the beat we flipped for that record,
I'm not going to say it because they're going to sue me right away,
but it's just a different vibe.
It's not your typical shit, you know what I mean?
So I'm having fun with it, bro.
Yeah, having a lot of fun.
You want some champagne, my brother?
Because I don't know if you know,
but on Drink Chaps, we celebrate our artists, man,
because so many people want to kick us out this game
and tell us that we got limited limited time you go out here with
16 hours 35 you got 35 and this is gonna be number 36 yeah
shut up in the game 20 years they got more hours to be
it's the Bay Area and it's therapy bro.
The Wii game is stressful bro.
It makes you want to just...
Now how'd you hook up with Wiz Khalifa?
Wiz came by the club I was running when I was like, I forgot how old I was, but it
was when I was on Geary.
So I had before Cookies was Cookies.
He came by, I was running the store.
I was the buyer, the manager at the canvas club.
He came by, we got high, it was cool as fuck.
Right. Yeah. So I knew it. And then was by. We got high. He was cool as fuck. All right. Yeah.
Salute.
And then was he Wiz at that time?
He was Wiz, yeah.
He was Wiz?
It was right before Black and Yellow, I think.
Yeah.
Yep.
So you were signed to Telegame at one point.
Yeah.
You know, we're still doing business.
And you know, the thing about me, bro, I just move so fast, bro.
I like to just move at my own pace. And I think it's a little overwhelming sometimes because a lot of these albums could have been a lot bigger and marketed a lot more like the Cameron album.
Not a lot of people know about it because I just dropped it.
You know what I mean?
Me and Currency just dropped the album.
Boom.
I dropped so much shit because I just moved quick.
You know what I mean?
Life short. You had to give Cameron at least $150, right?
You had to, right?
Nah, man. camera's a real
motherfucker bro because i know that motherfucker that dude don't do nothing man i'm gonna tell you
like this for whatever reason well shout out to british first of all okay me and british are close
his manager and i think he respected the grind and there was some business involved but it wasn't
like that okay okay it was it was some respectable business and cam let me
tell you a story about cam bro i uh reached out to him to get on uh me and young dolphins album
i think it was me and young dogs album then you got a dog too yeah and so cameron is such a
gentleman he was in l.a i told him i want you to come get on the record it's cool i'm gonna drive
where you at i'm like i'm in the bay i going to drive over there and knock it out. I'm like, from LA?
He's lost.
He's not coming over here.
Cameron drove from LA to the Bay.
Now, mind you, he only thought it was two hours away.
But he drove six.
Six, right?
And he knocked the verse out in my house and fucking got on the plane to Vegas.
A half hour later, I'm like, dude, you're a fucking G.
I personally would have been like, oh, word this four more hours?
Burn it.
I love you, little bro.
I'm going to send it when I can.
He's a gentleman, man.
He wouldn't knock that shit out for me real quick, bro.
Let's make some noise for the camera.
He'll never be on Drink Champs.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
I think it might happen one day.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
He might do it.
He's probably scared of that tiger shit.
Oh, no.
We got a tiger.
We scared of that tiger shit.
We beat that shit yesterday.
Man, that was the funny shit yesterday.
Kiss him in the mouth.
Ah, man.
We tell you later.
We tell you later.
So, Cookies Melrose.
Yeah.
Right?
That seems like that's the most one that's lit.
Is that the most popping right now?
Right now it is, man.
Melrose is going crazy. And it's downtown. It's right there one that's lit. Is that the most popping right now? Right now it is, man. Melrose is going crazy.
And it's downtown.
It's right there.
It's in Beverly Hills almost.
It's in L.A. by Hollywood and Beverly Hills, but we weren't supposed to be there.
Oh, wow.
Meaning like the neighbors, I don't think, ever expected a canvas club to be there.
Wow.
I think the store next door has something to do with J-Lo.
Maybe she shops there.
She's a part owner, but the cheapest dress is like 20 grand.
So we weren't supposed to be there.
But we lucked out and got it.
And we got that block popping.
Popping.
Trappling that motherfucker, bro.
For real.
If you had to pick cannabis or music, what would you pick?
I have to go with that weed, brother.
He didn't really hesitate on that.
Because you know what?
I can just rap in my head while I smoke.
It don't got to come out.
I like to rap as a hobby.
That's the cool thing about my music career too, bro.
I don't got no pressure.
I've been independent this whole time.
I put out what I want, when I want, how I want.
I'm not trying to appeal to no crowd.
I'm not trying to get on no radio.
I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
I do it because I love to do it.
That's the best way to do it.
And you partners with Ghazi?
Yeah, I've been on Empire since 2007.
Wow.
Yeah.
And they in the Bay Area as well, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, Frisco.
Okay.
I was probably one of his first clients.
I was on, what was that shit called before?
Ingrooves, I think.
Oh, what?
He was Ingrooves?
He was working at Ingrooves.
And he called me one day, like, yo, I took your whole catalog over. We're going to be good. And I'm like, oh, shit. All right, I think. Oh, word? He was Ingrooves before? He was working out at Ingrooves, and he called me one day, like, yo, I took your whole catalog
over.
It's going to be good.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
All right, for sure.
I mean, cool.
But it worked out great.
Great fucking guy.
So great guy, man.
Big up Ghazi, man.
Empire.
Man, you got to drink a little bit, bro.
This is champagne, man.
Come on.
We'll do it.
Let's do it.
It's the old school.
It's the old school.
It's the old school.
We celebrating you, man.
We are celebrating you today, man.
We're going to tie you both up.
Salute, yeah. Oh, man. I don't know if I can do that, man. We are celebrating you today, man. We're into the Tiger Bowl. Yeah.
I don't know if I can do that, man.
I popped a Zanning, man.
I might not make it if I drink the Taz.
You guys are killing me in the morning.
Everybody here is cannabis guys.
They come here to show you love because you are truly a cannabis king.
And we want to give you your flowers while you alive.
We don't want something to happen to you.
You know what I mean?
You say, yo, Burn is a great guy.
And every time I say it, it's your face, my brother.
Man. This is why we good
This is why our culture
Has to start doing this
We have to start
Bigging each other up
Because if we ain't
Going to do it
Nobody going to do it
We are the new FUBU
We are fuck you
And blah oh you
God damn it
You know what I mean
It's important to do that too
Because you know
This lifestyle
Will take a lot of years
Off your life man
Right
You know look We risk ourself when we go out in public.
We risk ourself every time we travel away from home.
This shit takes years off your life, bro, doing this shit, bro.
So it's good to get recognized while you're here.
So I salute you for that.
How's your Amsterdam?
What's your relationship with Amsterdam?
I've been going there since I was 18.
Oh, okay.
Many years.
So when I buy cookies in Amsterdam,
is that real cookies or that's bootleg?
No, here's the truth.
Motherfuckers are so obsessed with this shit, bro.
They fly to LA or wherever they
get it and they fucking fly it back and they
sell that shit for $70 a gram, bro.
Yes, yes. It's very true.
Cali weed in Amsterdam is like the
most expensive. So have you ever been to
gray area? Of course.
Gray area, amnesia, you know, greenhouse.
I don't know if you know, gray area is the only real place that you can really get California weed.
Like they got a whole secret menu of California weed.
A lot of places actually do now because it's the hype.
Same with Spain.
You go to Spain, the social clubs in Spain got California weed all through it too.
I'd be scared to go there.
I think, you know, Fez might think it's me doing it.
I'm not that dumb.
It's not me.
It's a legal store.
They buy it and do what they want to do.
That's not up to us.
No, but they have a lot of y'all strands.
That's crazy.
I always thought...
You know what, though?
That's the best feeling
because I went to AmSan when I was 18
trying to meet up with these store owners
and get cool with them
and try to figure out
how to get in the business.
Now I'm in the business.
You ever went into the Spencer's
and saw a fake version of your shit?
Every day.
I got to describe this to me though, please, come on.
Well, I look at it differently because
I see bootleg cookies everywhere.
But the way I look at it, and no one else feel this way,
people get mad, they're my cheerleaders, brother.
Because it does two things.
One, my brand is everywhere. People see it. Right.
And two, they know damn real is not real.
They want to find the real.
So if they get the bootleg shit, they're going to be like, yeah, I wonder if it's real.
And it leaves that thought in their mind.
Right.
And then they're going to come to my store eventually.
You know what I mean?
Okay, but break it down.
What is that?
Clone?
No, so like, what is the butt in there?
So if a person, like, so like, what is the butt in there? Yeah, like, so like, so,
alright,
so if a person,
like you have cookies,
right?
So if a person
goes and tries
to make fake
cookies,
how do they
do that?
Like,
what is the
steps?
Well,
back in the
day,
obviously they
don't know
your chemistry.
They try to
emulate you.
Well,
this is the way
it works.
This is the way
it works.
In the grower
community,
you get in
the grower
house,
you get to
grow wheat,
that's paid
money.
Can they just
clone it out
right?
Yeah,
this is what
you got to
do.
Let's say Nori's in the grower right now. He's got a job as a grower. He's hyped up. He's is good. Can I just clone it out right? That shit tastes good. Yeah, this is what you got to do. Let's say Nori's in a grow right now.
He's got a job as a grower.
He's hyped up.
He's feeling himself.
He's getting paid,
you know,
17 an hour,
whatever it may be.
He sees a plant that says
gelato or cookies.
All you got to do
is take a little pair of scissors,
cut a leaf,
put in a little wet towel around it,
bring it home,
put some rooting gel in it,
plant that bitch
and you're good to go.
Rooting gel,
what'd you say?
Yeah,
a little gel. It's like a little gel you put on a clone before you plant it wow but point being
is this miracle girl no not miracle girl yeah yeah something like that yeah i'm saying yeah
so basically it's pretty easy to steal genetics and and part of the problem in the wii game is
everyone is stealing stealing and selling genetics when cookies first came out on the internet and
all the forums they were selling cookie clones for $10,000, $15,000.
So people got the shit,
and they spread it around.
And look, we're all homies.
We all share a bud.
You don't think if we're all growers,
we wouldn't share clones?
The shit gets out there like wildfire.
You know, once it gets out, it's out.
It's like a leaked record.
So now, do you patent the name?
So now, could you sue if you wanted to?
I'm not saying you would.
Since it's still federally illegal,
it's federally illegal so you
can't do shit so what i did i tattooed that bitch on my hands and i built my audience as big as i
couldn't if someone's on some bullshit i'll say they got bullshit and i've had to use my my color
way my brand but really my voice and my social media to call them out that's the only protection
i got is my platform which is why you see my instagram get deleted all the time all right
motherfuckers hate on me bro now would you consider your competition like jungle boys and That's the only protection I got is my platform, which is why you see my Instagram get deleted all the time. All right.
Motherfuckers hate on me, bro.
Now, would you consider your competition like Jungle Boys and what's the other dudes, the nugs, what's the other dude, Diego?
Runts.
Runts?
No, Runts is my partners.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Runts is actually part of Cookies.
Cookies partnered with Runts.
We're 50-50 partners.
But how about Jungle Boys?
Jungle Boys, you know, look, man, let me take a sip real quick.
Okay, yeah, please.
Please, please, please.
I'm taking a sip.
I got a lot of love for Jungle Boys.
I worked with them for a while.
We had a brand called Exotics.
I never said this shit on the internet.
I've been wanting to say this shit for a long time.
Maybe I'm just, it's the mode.
This is where you talk.
You're like a therapist. You're a counselor.
I am.
I am, yes.
I think they got a little upset when we opened up in L.A.,
which is truth be told.
Oh, because you guys
were supposed to have
San Fran and the Bay Area,
the Yadda Dameen area.
It's never been the same
since Yadda Dye Boo Boo
pulled up to L.A.
When I pulled up,
it was a problem, man.
I got love for you, Ivan.
If you watch this,
it's a pretty big show.
I love you, brother.
I don't know what the problem is,
but look, there's enough money for everyone.
Your menu's incredible.
You grow great weed.
Okay.
It's totally different than ours.
All right.
Don't trip, homie.
Goddamn, man.
Let's be peace.
Peace, man.
Come on.
Peace to the Middle East, man.
You heard everything I said.
It's positive.
I love the dude.
He grows great weed, but I think that he probably thought that it was a little...
Like stepping on his toes?
Yeah.
Like territorial.
Yeah.
Why?
Is Jungle Boys around that area of Melrose?
No.
He just saying, LA period.
Oh, LA period.
Yeah.
They want the whole city.
Well, you know, Maywood's close to them.
I ain't going to lie.
The first store we opened up was like eight minutes away.
It's a little fucked up.
I'm sorry.
All right.
That's the way it worked, though.
And I always wanted to do collabs and keep it cool because I love dude.
That's my boy.
We had business together.
We broke real bread together.
But the cannabis game is funny.
So what can you do about it?
How about the Green Door in the Bay Area?
Shout out to Green Door.
They're cool.
David Kang and them, the owners.
Shout out to them.
Great people.
Great people always support us.
Our product's in their store now.
It's always going to be in their stores.
We actually got a couple projects together, too.
All right.
Yeah.
That's dope, man.
I love San Francisco.
Make some noise for San Francisco, man.
What's the heat?
Is there any...
So imagine in hip-hop, there's already the hip-hop police type shit.
Is there any extra heat because of what you're doing?
Of course.
Cannabis police?
You know, look, your banks.
I mean, cannabis slash hip hop.
No, I mean, these are the things that happen.
Your banks get shut down.
You can't bank your bread.
I was kicked out of a few banks recently.
City National, which is made for artists and athletes.
I love that fucking bank.
They kicked me out for no reason.
What did they do?
None of my money was from weed.
It was all from my music and my clothing.
Wow.
And they said, because of what you
represent and what you affiliate yourself with,
we don't want you here. I'm like, fucking kidding
me? I had meals in there,
bro. I was about to say, they give you your money back?
How does that work? Yeah, but they were dicks about it.
When the other bank tried to shut me down,
like, yo, just come pick up your check and whatever.
They were like, yo, you got to come get this today.
Come get your check today.
I mean, I felt like if I didn't go get it today, it was a wrap.
You got a brother smoking?
Please don't be shy.
Don't be shy.
Wow.
That's crazy.
You know, at the end of the day, like, is there hip hop cops in the weed game?
I'm sure.
But I don't do dumb shit no more.
You know, every entourage of every group is like, what up?
I need a hundred bags.
I'm like, I'm sure you do, brother.
I'm sure you do. But guess what? I'm older. I need 100 bags. I'm like, I'm sure you do, brother. I'm sure you do.
But guess what?
I'm older, I'm colder, and I'm trying to get to a B.
Straight up.
I'm trying to break a billy off this shit, bro, because I put in 18 years straight.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So you're saying that people that come to you and ask for side deals.
Everybody wants a side deal.
But not legally.
They want to buy 100 pounds.
Of course not.
They're from Marcus and they ain't legal yet or whatever.
Fly to New York, man.
I'm like, come on, man.
You know I ain't going to do that shit.
I got a real business.
I can't jeopardize that shit, bro.
You're on your Kennedy shit right now.
Yeah, bro.
It's like either I'm going to make it or I'm not.
I'm at that age and at that stage in my career where, you know, look, either it's going to pop or flop.
And I can't go bust a pack to make somebody happy.
I already been through all that.
I've been through all that stress before I ain't doing that again
yeah I worked too hard to get out of that so you was a part of the legal side
of it as well as everyone was 215 was a very great mark a very great proposition
back in the day so cannabis the medical side of campus was a very gray area and
living in San Francisco California one of the most liberal cities in the world
right how could you not be involved?
You know what I mean?
That's how I grew up.
It's a slap on the wrist, and that's it.
Right.
Yeah.
That's a motherfucking shit.
God damn.
Make it up.
So, what's San Francisco?
Is it like, every time I go out there,
it's always like
the bum population is like...
There's a big bum population.
Yes.
It's fucked up.
Could we do like
a cannabis for bums?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
We have homeless people
making a fuck up.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Oh, that's bad?
Bums is bad?
I'm sorry, I didn't know.
I didn't know.
What do you do
To help that
There's a couple things
You could do
I mean
And there's young
Brothers homeless out there
Man but you know
A lot of it's by choice man
Like if you
A lot of people
Move to San Francisco
Because it's a hippie state
And they want to
Hippie city
They want to come do drugs
And party
And they accept it
And not everyone
There's people
That have been putting out
You know what I mean
And that are legitimately
Struggling and hurting But you know They're not gonna be the ones on the
street fucked up drinking doing drugs they're gonna be the ones waiting in line for the shelters
and trying to find a way to get home and whatnot so you know for compassion at the old club i used
to work at we give away the trim so we trim the bud our little sugar leaves it still get you high
if you smoke it it's better than nothing and we give away that and the smaller buds as compassionate people that had low income or veterans or whatnot.
But now with the new regulations, you can't give away anything for free anymore.
Of course not.
Big Brother wants his pay.
So we're trying to figure out ways to do it.
I mean, I think you could probably charge them a very low cost.
But again, the tax is so high to grow weed
now that it's all legitimate
and organized, I don't think we can afford to grow it
and give it away until we blow up, blow up.
You know what I mean? Now, with the laws,
is there a difference?
In San Fran, do you have to
grow the weed in San Fran to sell it there?
Nah, not necessarily. Like you're saying, county
for county? Yeah. It's a state thing.
I can grow weed in LA and legally transport it down to SF.
I can grow bud in SF and bring it down to L.A. legally.
The licensing, it goes across the state.
It's a state, yeah.
What do you think is better, SF or L.A.?
Well, L.A. got more property.
SF is small.
It's a small city.
What do you mean property?
Like it's just bigger.
I'm talking about bud-wise.
Oh, bud-wise?
Yeah. Eh. You think L.A. wins? I mean, bro, the Bay Area. property like it's just bigger yeah yeah i mean bro the bay area baby come on yeah i'm gonna tell
you why though because the weather there is hella cool it's like the neighborhood i grew up in where
you grow weed at it's like 67 degrees 57 degrees that allows the weed to turn purple and get this
nice color and when you cure it there's no no humidity, so it's going to dry right.
That's that weed you can just pick up and just let it hang from your thumb and fucking shake your hand and it ain't coming off.
So I grew up on Frisco weed.
I may be biased.
L.A. grows great weed because we grow weed in L.A. too.
But weather conditions, it ain't getting 90 degrees in the Bay.
L.A. gets hot.
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I'll go with that bag.
When I hit a corner, that's what they call it.
They call it hit a corner.
Yeah, hit a corner.
Hit a corner, that shit be cold out there in the bag.
I love it.
But now, is there such thing as like clipping too early?
Like I remember like I remember, like,
it would be weed growers
that they would have to, like,
sell it,
and I could tell it was premature.
Was I bugging,
or I was on point?
You weren't bugging, bro.
They clipped that shit early.
They probably didn't dry it right.
It was probably orange hair
and smell like hay, right?
Damn, I don't remember
that much detail.
I don't remember.
Yeah, you can cut it early.
You got to figure out your plant and figure out how many days it has to grow.
Every plant has a different growth cycle.
Oh, so it's not 90 days for all plants?
No, hell no.
Oh, what?
Gary finishes before London Pound Cake.
London Pound Cake finishes later than lemonade.
That's crazy.
Everything is different.
You got to learn the plant.
It's a real research and development process.
Oh, I thought it was all 90 days.
Nah, that's why all these rich motherfuckers get in are fucked up.
All these rich boys getting in the game thought it was easier fucking finding out the hard way.
It's not easy, bro.
There's nothing easy about growing wheat.
Wow.
It's just scientific as a motherfucker.
Wow.
So roughly how many days, Gary Payton, how many days do you think it is?
What is Gary Payton?
I think it's 63 flower days, flowers for 63 days.
I got it in my phone, in my notes, because we have so many strains.
We have fucking probably 200 strains right now.
It's pretty wild.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
You got more beers?
Okay, ice, yes, please, man.
More, please.
This motherfucking cold is...
Damn.
So it's less than 90 days.
Let me see.
Okay, and lemon pound cake. I love lemon pound cake. Didn't you? That's what. Let me see. Okay. And lemon pound cake. I love
lemon pound cake. Didn't you... That's what I like
of Diego? The lemon pound cake?
Remember when you had that?
You had that? You didn't have it from Berner, though.
I'm telling you, he bootleg this shit. He got
fake bags all over Baba?
He bootleg this shit. And what's the other
one? That's lemon pound cake. And what's the other one?
It's another Gary. Oh, another Gary.
I had some other shit, man, but I smoked it today in the studio.
I ain't gonna lie.
No problem, man.
I want to find out how long this flower's for.
Because I thought all of it was 90 days.
I learned something crazy new today.
Nah.
So, okay.
Gary Payton.
Oh, I'm on point.
A 63-day flower.
Wow.
London pound cake, 70-day flower.
July, 63-70-day flower.
Depends. Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Have you ever grew something that you didn't like
and still sold it?
Of course.
That's business.
You want to hear some trap stories, bro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, please, please.
Look, man, I used to be, I used to have to get it, bro.
Like, I had a pack one time that came out seeded.
It hermied out a bunch of seeds,
but that bitch smelled so good and looked so good.
But if you were to look at the bottom of the bag,
there was hella seeds. And I had a plug that
was coming through buying 20, 50, 100 all
the time. He trust me. He love me. That was my dog.
But, you know, I was young, dumb, and I needed some bread.
And so when he came to the apartment, I'm
like, what can I do? Because I want to sell this 50
pack, but I don't want him to see these seeds.
So I twist my light
off in my room, twist my light off in the hallway, had a homie come in and be like, bro, I don't know what to see these c's so i twist my light off in my room twist my light off
in the hallway had homie come in black bro i don't know what's going on my power your shit
fucked up bro but look check it out i put my cell phone on it real quick you know i think it's before
they had a ford light i think i just had my cell phone on it and it smoked and it smelled great
and he was like oh that's that shit i'm like bro that's that shit bro and he's like cool and he
grabbed and gave me the money he bounced and that motherfucker hit me the next day with a picture it was a cup like this
with like that many seeds in there caption you fucked me oh i said wow that's terrible don't
trip i'm gonna give you 500 back on each one i made 1500 on each one so i wasn't really worried
about it but you know definitely so that's a sign of the weed not being bad as the seeds
no so it could seeded a couple different ways it could be next to a plant that herms out and
that makes that seed it could be light leak in the room it could be an unstable condition that
makes it trip out so seeds always mean it's bad it's not how you harvest it you said that twice
hermed out what does that mean it means uh the seeds come out the female what the seeds come out the female. What? The seeds come out, like a female plant produces seeds.
Right.
Bustin' nuts.
Bustin' nuts.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Her mouth would die.
Oh, shit got real.
I was bad, Lord.
What was that?
If it's with a male plant,
it would bust seeds.
Yeah, yep.
If it's around a light leak
or a male plant
or the plant's not stable,
like if you bred something
and it just wasn't stable,
you never got it stable,
it'd produce seeds
but still be fire.
Right.
I've had weed with seeds
that was hell of fire.
Right.
Be real.
He's a grower as well,
correct?
Dr. Green Thumb.
Yeah.
So, how did y'all connect?
He got me,
so when I was around
18 or 19,
I seen him at the
Rainbow Lounge,
which is like a popular bar
in LA where you can smoke
blood on the patio
and eat food.
Okay, I've been there.
He's the one that set that spot up.
Bro, I didn't know that.
So when I was younger, I was trying to link with him.
I brought my little mixtape through, and some guy poached me that was around him,
tried to get me to sign a 14-album deal with no advance or nothing.
Like, oh, I'll fuck with you.
But I've been trying to meet B-Real.
And one time he reached out to me to get in the smoke box.
And when I got in, we caught a good vibe. I I just said let's do an album bro and he's like cool
and he came in and we knocked that shit out in four days and it was classic
so you know the vibe was there from the beginning goddamn make some noise
B-Real one of the most humble humans in the world bro yes brother is smooth cool player a lot of
knowledge he taught me how to tour properly
when we went on a tour together.
Right.
He taught me how to roll.
They're veterans.
Cypress veterans.
Yeah, bro, veterans, bro.
I never toured
the way I used to ever again.
Now I know how he does it,
I do it like that.
And you merch all that?
Well, I had merch,
but I used to have
13, 14 homies on the bus.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Used to just do stupid things
that didn't make sense.
Right.
You know, less people, have the barbecue on the bus, you know what I mean? The barbecue on the bus? You know what I mean? Like, used to just do stupid things that didn't make sense. So, you know, less people, have to barbecue on the bus.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, barbecue on the bus.
You know we're having a no-carbecue.
No-carbecue?
Yeah, we're having a no-carbecue September 7th, just in case y'all don't know.
Here in Drinks Champ's office.
It's my birthday, September 6th.
So, September 7th.
So, there's no carbs at all?
There's no carbs.
We're going to do some other shit.
That's brutal. We're making up some other shit. You know what I'm saying? It's just protein. It's just no carbs at all? There's no carbs. We're going to do some other shit. That's brutal.
I'm making up some other shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Just protein.
Yeah, just protein.
Keto?
You guys going keto?
No, it's something like,
I just want to do something different, man.
Protein and alcohol.
I want to do something different, man.
And you're going to have alcohol.
You're going to get your sugar
through the alcohol.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah.
Man, this is what we do
at Drink Champs, man.
We celebrate the people, man.
You are one of the people
that are hands down a trendsetter.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to say that.
I want to say that to your face because this is dope what you're doing, man.
And so many other people are following your footsteps.
So if there's a person that's trying to get in the cannabis business, what can you say to them to start them off?
The first thing you need to find...
That wants to be burned up.
All right, look, if you want to be burned, the first thing you got to do is find yourself a breeder, someone that creates.
You want a menu that no one else has.
Wait, wait, a breeder.
A breeder.
Let's slow it down right there.
What the fuck is that?
A breeder is someone that creates genetics.
They're the ones that take a kush plant, a cookie plant, cross that, and create something brand new.
You have to find someone that could design a menu for you.
You know how to clone shit,
do all that,
like splice and all that?
Way more complicated than cloning.
You have to breed something.
You have to take
some pollen from a male,
blow it on a female,
take the seeds,
pop those,
find which ones are stable,
not a hernia.
I ain't gonna front.
He said they're like a pimp, though.
You know what I mean?
He was like,
nigga, the Bay Area
is jumping out at you right now.
You know?
Come on, man. This nigga like, this nigga like, nigga, the Bay Area is jumping out at you right now. You know? Come on, man.
The Bay Area,
that nigga like,
he's on a little champagne.
God damn,
get some more champagne.
Yo, take a long time, man.
Come on, man.
What's up?
But you need a breeder.
Once you find a breeder.
But that can't be easy to find.
It's not easy to find.
That's why there's not a lot of burns.
But if you find a breeder,
then you have something when you go to a bigger grow. So you got your breeder. Here's a easy to find. That's why there's not a lot of burns. But if you find a breeder, then you have something when you go to a bigger grow.
So you got your breeder.
Here's a big ass grow.
What are they growing in there?
Probably some bullshit.
Right.
With a good menu, you can go in and say, hey, why don't you grow this for me?
Right.
I'm going to buy it back at this price.
Run it through a legal distribution.
Boom, boom, boom.
So first step is a breeder.
Second step is a grower
That actually grow
I know bullshit grower
You need someone
That could grow fire
Why?
Right?
Breeder
Grower
Identity
Create your brand
Get your colorway
I own this colorway
Hell of other brands
Try to use this
It's my blue
It's my shit
Wow
They can't
It's a wrap
This is my cookies
This C right here
This C is my C What? Breeder There can't be they can't. It's a wrap. This is my cookies. This C right here, this C is my C.
What?
Breeder.
The champion got a C.
Exactly.
Right.
That logo's forever embedded in people's mind.
Right.
So you get breeder, grower, right?
Right.
Identity.
Right.
Right.
Distribution.
Right.
And that's it, bro.
Did Champion ever try to come at you about that C or no?
Because it looks so different.
Nah, they came at me about something else.
Oh, word?
Yeah, but they were cool.
Shout out to Champion.
Look, I've been sued by everybody because I flip a lot of shit.
And Champion was actually really cool, bro.
Shout out to Champion.
They was like, I'm suing you, but nicely.
I called him through a couple mutual friends and they're like,
all right, just stop it and tell us how much you sold and we want to see you.
I'm like, fuck, really?
Cool.
Wow, they said stop and we want to see you. And tell them how much you sold. we want to see you. I'm like, fuck, really? Cool. Well, they said stop and we won't see you.
And tell them how much you sold.
So they wanted the analytics and stats on you.
They just wanted to make sure we weren't going crazy.
You know what I mean?
But they were the coolest people to ever, you know, go that route.
I've been sued by a lot of motherfuckers.
Yeah, we got champion shirts right now, man.
Big up to Manny for champion.
Big up to champion.
They're a real player about it, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're a real player about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're hip-hop.
So what's the favorite thing that you like about Cannabis Game,
and what's your favorite thing you like about hip-hop?
I think the favorite thing about the Cannabis Game
is actually being able to be a part of someone's day.
So, like, if I sell you a bag at my store,
if you go to Cookies and you buy a bag,
you're either going to help,
that's going to help you with a hard day.
It's going to help you
when you're celebrating.
You're going to celebrate
with my weed.
You're going to listen to music.
You're going to make it.
You're going to create.
It actually affects somebody
in their day and what they do
and their decisions
and their mood and their life.
It's more than just selling someone
some weed and making some money.
They're going to take this weed.
They're going to smell that shit.
They're going to share that shit
with their friends.
They're going to smoke that shit.
And whether they're creating,
venting, celebrating, chilling, just got done fucking i want to smoke a joint
we're a part of someone's day they use this as a part of their day i think that's cool as fuck to
me bro right i'm actually creating things that and i seen one of the homies over there pull out
a cookie bag and be like my hell yeah i'm part of his day right he was he put that pack up in
the trunk and drove where he was coming he's about to bust it out and smoke it with someone
and they're going to
have a good laugh.
Being a part of someone's day
is hard, bro.
I like that.
That's my favorite part
about the cannabis business.
The money,
what I've been paid.
I'm not worried
about none of that shit.
So,
you know what I mean?
So,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is that time,
this is that time,
this is that time.
So,
when we doing
a Cookies Miami?
Dude, we're in the process of it right now.
We're in the process of getting the license right now.
You know we medically out here.
I got my medical license.
Medical out here.
And I think Rex coming soon, everyone knows.
Yep.
But, you know, just to give you an example on some business shit for the people who are watching.
It's $100 million to get a license out here, brother.
Get the fuck out of here.
Wait, wait.
For a dispensary well the way they do is you'll be able to grow have 30 stores and distribution and all that but
in order to be one of the guys come on man let me raise that money man
that's what's gonna be dope Is when I
When I have my stores bro
I embrace everyone
So if I'm in LA
If you're a fire ass
Brand in LA
I'm putting you on the shelf
If I'm gonna be in Nevada
The best growers
The cool people
That are really from the culture
When I come to Miami
Drink
Y'all on the shelf
So you're saying
Cookies the store
You have other people
Fuck yeah
He just said
Smoke Chess will be in the store
I thought Cookies the store Is only brands other people who Fuck yeah. He just said it's no chance of being in the store. I thought
cookies, the store, is only
brands that... No, bro, that would be whack.
Oh, I never knew that.
Here's the best thing about it, bro. I look at it
like this. I'm a fucking pothead.
I like variety. I appreciate
herb in general. I'm not
one of these weirdos that's like, oh, you can only buy
this. Nah, bro. If it's
fire, I'm buying it. I want it all.
Put it on my shelf.
We're going to pop it off.
We always switch menus out
so every state we go to,
we're going to embrace
the hottest brands out there.
We got to.
Yeah, I say only like
30% of our shelf,
20, 30 is our own shit.
I buy everyone's shit
because, bro,
I like to try that shit.
I like to have it.
God damn it.
God damn it.
God damn it.
I did not know that.
I always thought, because I believe Jungle Boy.
That's how Jungle Boys do it.
I think they just sell their shit.
I'm not 100% positive on that.
For the most part, they'll buy a couple things.
They'll buy a couple things.
But when you come into Cookies, it's almost overwhelming.
You got a whole shelf full of brands.
Like a convenience store.
Yeah, because, bro, I don't want people
to have to go anywhere else.
Right.
You can come and get cookies.
You can come and get
exclusive stuff to this area.
You can come and get
the hottest brands around here.
You can try everything, bro.
We support people, man.
God damn it, man.
God damn it.
That's some real shit, man.
Your motherfucker.
Going back to your question
about the hip-hop shit, though.
Right.
My favorite thing about hip-hop
is putting artists on beats
that I like.
I dead-ass want to be an A&R When I'm all retired and done
Because I like looking at artists
Let's say Twista
And putting them on a beat I want to hear them on
As a fan of music
With Cam'ron I pick the beats
Stuff I wanted to always hear Cam'ron
When I worked with Bone Thugs
When I worked with you
My favorite part is saying
What's the beat going to be?
And getting like the record
I do with Fat Joe
and De La Geto,
it's like a way different vibe.
You actually make beats too,
or no?
No, I just got a good ear.
And a sample flipper,
so I have my boys
flip samples and whatnot,
but I just really know
how to pick good beats.
Right.
I can't make a beat for shit
neither, man.
Me neither, man.
Pick up the hazardous sounds,
SBK and Credible Cuts, Beats in the Hood, and everybody who can make a motherfucking beat.
I can't make a beat for the life of me. I don't think I can dance either.
So who's your dream producer to work with?
I actually was able to do it recently.
Okay.
DJ Quick.
Oh, get out of here. Okay.
Quickly to be on this goddamn podcast.
Man, look, Quick came through. He set up everything.
He brought out the MPC and made all the hits.
He whipped that shit up in front of me.
He played
some live instruments. He had another
guitar player came in. That boy did
a clap on the beat like this.
You know what I mean? He got some weird machine
I never heard of that was like
a little, not machine,
a little instrument. a little of no
It's quick as a real
People make beats and there's the producers. He's so dope bro. That was my dream producer right that
All right. What about MCS? What MCS have you not worked with you want to work with? Uh, no, I've been waiting. I've been
Man you know what I've worked with so many people.
I think right now it would have to be DMX.
I'm trying to get all of them right now.
I got a record for them.
Yeah, you got it.
I'm trying to hit them from multiple different people right now.
But that's, I mean, fuck, I've been blessed to be able to work with some of my favorites.
It's been a good look.
DMX, let me tell you something.
It's a movie getting a verse from him.
Bro, listen, I'm trying.
Listen, listen, listen.
I hold that nigga down.
Listen, this is crazy.
It took me a week to get a verse from him.
We was in the hotel in the same, like, next door to each other, my dude.
Like, he was in one room, I was in the very next one.
And that shit still took me a week.
You know what
I already told myself
This task will not be easy
Oh no it's not easy bro
It's not easy
But the crazy shit
Have you ever met him
Nah
Once you meet him
Like he's the most
Like genuine
Down to earth
Cool person
Even getting him on
Drink Champs wasn't easy
Yeah I'm talking about
We were hanging with him
The whole day
Yeah that's true
Get him to sit down
That's a whole other episode
Before the episode happened.
But he's truly,
he's truly one of a kind.
Like, I can tell you
one time.
Authentic.
I can tell you one time
it was the MTV Awards
and it was the time
that he missed the MTV Awards.
I don't remember,
you guys remember
when he was infamous
and he was supposed to have
this big performance.
And I went to the Wii spot,
and this nigga's there.
And I'm like, yo, Axe, what the fuck are you doing?
Why you not at MTV Awards?
He said, why you ain't at MTV Awards?
Nigga, I'm not supposed to be performing.
They didn't invite me.
And that's how genuine he was.
He didn't give a fuck. Like, he just was in the Wii spot. He was supposed to be performing! He didn't invite me! And that's how genuine he was. He didn't give a fuck.
He just was in the weed spot.
He was chillin'.
At the time that he was supposed to be performing,
Def Jam was going crazy.
They can't find this nigga.
This nigga's with me!
In the parlor, my nigga.
I'm like, X, you outta control, go!
I'm like, go to MTV!
X was like, man, fuck that.
Find him and Nas.
I want to do something with Nas, too.
Nas is also a movie.
Trust me, I know.
He's also a movie.
I've tried, bro.
I've been in contact.
I've been trying to work my angles. Great guy as well.
Nah, he's a savant, man.
He's a legendary dude, bro.
And that's the whole thing.
I like to work with artists that I grew up listening to and I look up to because that's
a goal to me.
That's what making music is about.
The young, hot, new artists that are new artists are now they don't give a fuck
about me they come and go they come and go a lot of them too are on their own
agenda they don't really respect you know the legacy yeah the long run bro
yeah so my whole thing is like alright if I'm gonna make it music I tell people
I already made it I worked with legends that I grew up to looking up to
listening to
wishing I could work with them
and I worked with them
so I got four albums with them
like fucking
I ain't worried about
no new artists
you know who I want to work with
what's my nigga
that used to do
all those records over
Weird Al Yankovic
yeah Weird Al Yankovic
I swear
that's my shit
really
I'm trying to get
Weird Al
you gotta get that Weird Al.
Man, you gotta go
old school tactical
to get hold of that boy.
I'm trying to get
I can see Weird Al
fucking with you.
I'm saying I'm
looking for Weird Al, man.
I'm trying to bring you
out of retirement, man.
No, he's not retired.
He's still working.
He's still working.
I've seen a documentary
about him.
He's still working.
He works there.
I gotta watch that.
Weird Al's that man.
He was that nigga.
He flipped Gates of Paradise. He could spit. I ain't gonna lie. Oh, nigga. He's flip gates the power day. He's fit
I ain't gonna lie. Oh wow he killed it
Sorry cool. I feel like cool. You're a real nigga
Shit was hard. Our body.
He kills all the shit he does.
I always wanted him to flip Superdog.
What, what, what, what?
Oh, that would have been so funny.
That would be hilarious.
You gotta do it, bro.
You gotta do it.
He don't do it.
We do it.
It's like a bowl time.
It's like a bowl time, man.
Let's put it, bro.
For health reasons. For health table. For health reasons.
For health reasons.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Okay.
Okay.
For health reasons.
I'm going to be honest real quick.
And don't judge me because it's not a recreational thing.
I took Xanax.
It's okay.
We eat all types of shit.
Don't worry about it. Don't lie a little baby one okay okay you don't you That's a very bad city. Nah, man, y'all trying to do me dead. That's too baby, though.
That's not much baby in the head, man.
Okay.
Nah, I'm going to let you live because it's disgusting.
Yeah, okay.
Nigga, what the fuck?
Nigga, look.
I just want to be too fucked up.
This is some weird shit.
It's actually herbs.
It's actually...
We don't know what the fuck this is.
We don't know if you know, but in our day and time, No, this is this is actually herbs. This actually yeah
But not day and time we need to big up our people why the people is alive So this is what we're gonna kill me right now celebrate
We are celebrating you
Burn up bucket in the building
Salute god damn it. Yeah, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die.
I don't wanna have trouble. I ain't bad like that.
I just wanna die. I took a second.
I'm honest. I see these kids dropping left and right off drugs now, God, I'm sorry.
This takes 24 hours.
This is actually in the juice bar.
This is in the juice bar. I'm touching This is in the juice bar. This is in the style P juice bar.
This is in the juice bar.
I'm getting it.
Read the warning on the label.
Mr. Lee, show them the warning on the label.
I can't read Chinese.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
We're gonna make it.
Exactly.
We are fucked.
So at what point you was like, yo, you know what?
I'm gonna make cannabis my life. Like, at what point you was like, yo, you know what? I'm going to make cannabis my life.
Like, at what point?
Because I'm sure you had to be like everybody else who was just hustling at first and not really realizing that this can change your life forever.
Nah, just when I was working at the spot.
Oh, when you was on.
Yeah, when I was at the spot when I was 18.
I was 18 bartending, which I used to drink a lot.
Mm.
A lot when I was bartending.
Goddamn, we're going to drink a lot for you.
Goddamn.
And when I was bartending and running a cannabis club, it was a life.
I was 18 years old.
I sold weed from Monday through Friday.
Mm-hmm.
And then Friday night, I'd go to the bar and bartend.
Saturday, I'd go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend.
Sunday, I'd go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend.
And I was fucking bitches selling weed, having money. It was great. Goddamn. Yeah, I was go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend. Sunday, go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend. I was fucking bitches selling weed, having money.
It was great.
Goddamn.
Yeah, I was a bartender.
I got more girls bartending than I ever will from rapping.
Bartender.
So you were doing that before rapping?
I was doing it all at the same time.
You know, I'm Mexican, baby.
We worked 10 jobs.
Goddamn, goddamn, goddamn.
Goddamn, goddamn.
It's the boys from Mexico.
So you work in there and... Because somebody said this to me the other day.
They said weed is the new crack.
Damn, that's crazy.
But meaning...
Hear me out. Is it a good way?
Yeah, it's definitely a good way.
Meaning like, it's still crackheads that exist,
but it's very... Everyone... ever weed is everywhere, right?
Yeah, everywhere you go like you mean like an epidemic of crack, but that's what that's what that's what they made
We just a new calm. Yeah, I could see that
That's a good is it's a really big rush right now and everyone's trying to get in there
Okay crash hundreds of millions of dollars, but a lot of these motherfuckers are going to fail. It's a new dot com.
A bubble could be created.
Right now people are paying more for companies and people are investing more into things
than it's worth because it's hot.
But once these motherfucking real estate agents
can't grow no weed and fuck everything up,
they're going to tell.
It's a wrap. It's going to fall off.
The market will crash.
And the real operators such as myself and Jungle Boys,
shout out to Jungle Boys, the people that really grow
weed will still be in the game.
Who's other people that really grow weed?
There's a good amount, man.
I'm sure they would love to hear you big them up.
Man, now you got this little tiger shit in me,
I can't even think right now.
Who grows
weed, man?
Who said I do?
You know, look, shout out to Gas House.
Shout out to Gas House.
Okay.
Shout out to Run.
Shout out to Grand Aflores.
What?
Okay.
Shout out to Sea Junkie, which got a line called Mints.
Sea Junkie?
Okay.
Yeah, Sea Junkie.
Shout out to Juanito and Wes Kendall.
He's killing the game right now.
Juanito?
Shout out to Juanito.
Yeah.
He's killing the game.
Shout out to Juanito.
You know, there's a good amount of cannabis girls out there, man. Okay. Yeah. Kill the game. Shout out to Juanito.
You know, there's a good amount of canvas girls out there, man.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, when Vegas went recreational, I was very disappointed.
Yes. Because the bud was just terrible.
Well, it's not just them.
The weather out there is fucked.
Yeah.
And they can only grow Vegas bud.
They can only sell.
And so you got to think like
I'll touch down with the
freshest Cali pack ever.
You bust that bitch open
and within 20, 30 minutes
I'm up in the straight sand.
Wow.
It's just hell.
It's too dry out there
to air.
Just bringing it there.
Yeah, because I didn't like
I'm so to God.
Like the fact that
it was recreational.
I was actually there
the day it went recreational.
I was there too.
Oh, I was there. Yeah. And went recreational. I was there, too. Oh, I was there.
Yeah.
And I was disappointed.
Well, you know, we're coming to Vegas soon.
We'll leave it there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay, got you.
Soon come Vegas.
We'll get you guys right.
So how about Denver?
Are you guys in Denver?
Soon, too.
Okay.
I'm expanding right now to 12 states.
You know, and so we're privately owned.
You know, we're not on the public market. We're privately owned. We're not on the public market. We're real
operators. We're just going and we're finding
the best cultivators, the best storefront operators.
It's kind of like seeking talent.
So right now, Cleese is just in California?
That's it? No, we're in
California, Michigan,
Canada, Arizona.
All of Canada?
I'm not sure yet. I think Vancouver. Vancouver's one of my favorite places. Arizona. All of Canada?
I'm not sure yet.
I think Vancouver and... Vancouver's one of my favorite places.
Ontario or something like that.
I love Vancouver.
Yeah, we're going everywhere.
Vancouver would be 90 degrees with snow on the shit.
Maryland. Shout out to Maryland.
Maryland, okay.
DC, yeah, DC.
Damn.
Oh, man.
That's dope.
Would you like this light of smoke, champs?
Yeah, go ahead.
I don't want you to light it.
I'll light it for you.
How about this?
You made me drink
this weirdo shit.
Yeah.
I'm going to roll
a special one.
You're going to take a hit.
Okay.
Okay, how about this?
I'll take a hit of that
if you take a hit
of smoke, champs.
Oh, no, no, no. That's a of that if you take a hit of Smoke Chance.
No, no, no.
That's a compromise.
You drink already. I don't smoke.
But what's in that shit, though?
It don't matter. I'll smoke your shit.
It's all about the brand, baby.
Hell no, blood.
This shit look like coke on it.
It's CBD. it's CBD.
We call it a wash.
You smoke you?
Nah, I'm not.
Come tell him what's on this.
Nah, I'm not.
Come here.
We wash our hands of this right now.
Nah, my boy's wild.
He was talking to me outside.
This guy's some shit in there, bro.
I can't do this.
Nah, nah, it's off here.
It's off here.
Come on, come on, nah, I got big studio sessions tonight.
My wife's already mad at me.
Something in Miami.
Y'all about to have me fucked up.
Yeah, tell them what's in there.
Flour.
It's indoor.
Come on, bro.
Whatever name of flour is on it.
And sauce with wrap and CBD.
CBD powder.
We trying to look different out here, Burner.
We trying to be different.
I just want to show the cameras what y'all trying to do.
Yeah, show the cameras.
We out here.
Come on, we're going to collaborate.
We out here being different, Burner.
Look at that shit.
Look at that.
What do you call it?
Hey, look, I used to do cocaine.
This is a key word, used to.
You're bringing the wrong heat on us, man.
I love it.
I mean, cocaine words are not bad, right?
Where am I supposed to take this?
Only available in California, man.
Look, that look like a little rock, my guy. I right? I love it. Where am I supposed to take this? I'm like... Only available in California, man.
Look, that look like a little rock, my guy.
I'm going to do it.
Man, I'm in the land of Scarface.
Y'all got me drinking Tiger and trying to smoke some rock.
We're going to use it for a commercial.
Yo, by the way, big up to Shine Papers.
We're going to talk about people with non-lives 2020.
You know what I'm saying?
The Shine Papers, you know, when you're smoking a blunt, you're smoking a shine, baby. Here's what we're going to do, though. You know what I'm saying The Shine Papers You know when you smoking A blunt
You smoking a shine baby
Here's what we gonna do though
You know what I mean
I wanna do something for y'all
Cause I'm the weed guru
Yes
Never in a million years
Where I light that
Cause I be scared of that
Alright cool
I wanna get you guys
A fucking collab
Uh huh
With an exclusive flower
That no one else has
And a nice vibe paper
This is my paper company
Right here right
Oh vibes
Okay yeah
We gonna do the glass tip With a vibe And I'm gonna put some no one else has okay champs cookies class. Let's go
Pussy like myself shows up scared of that white stick
We got we got one like to come open that up. Come on. Find me a regular one, man. Yeah, we got regular ones. Don't put me down. Yeah, yeah. It's about to be smoked champs, too.
Come on, Zanny.
Champagne, I'm about to die tonight.
No, you good.
You good.
We are protecting you.
You are our treasure in hip hop, and we're
going to protect you at all motherfucking costs.
Appreciate that, man.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute, my brother.
Salute.
Salute.
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And me and Pone still talk about the war we fought.
And still getting money just off the war report.
Nicki went to Joe.
We laugh and respected that.
Queens get the money that's first.
Never neglected that.
Fat Joe squashed it with Jay.
See I connected that.
Both sides have respect
for the guard and I accepted that
These bars gonna hit em like a Mickey
This reached out to rethink your top 50
I'm on that energy guard, I need
that energy I'm on that energy guard
I need that energy I'm on that energy
guard, I need that energy We on
that energy guard, we need that energy
I'm on that energy guard, I need that energy
I'm on that energy guard, I need that energy I'm on that energy, God, we need that energy. I'm on that energy, God, I need that energy. I'm on that energy, God, I need that energy.
I'm on that energy, God, I need that energy.
We on that energy, God, we need that energy.
We need that energy.
We need that energy.
But just to be clear, it's not cocaine.
Yeah, it's not cocaine.
I thought it looked something.
You know, I want that reaction.
You know what the hardest part about being burner is?
Motherfuckers try to take my head off when they see me, bro.
Kids will have joints waxed.
Oh, that's the drink jam shit going on now for us.
Dude, it's like, look, yes, I'm a cannabis user, but I'm a father.
I run 13 businesses.
I'm a potential billionaire.
I don't want to die.
Yeah, I'll be at 6 o'clock in the morning in the airport.
Motherfuckers be like, take a shot with me, Larry.
I'm like, nigga, it's 6 a.m. It's 6. Motherfuckers be like take a shot with me I'm like nigga it's 6
8 air
it's 6
motherfuckers got a flask
at church
I watch drink chats
all day
you taking a shot
with me
I'm like
yo my man
I'm on 1
you on 10
it's 6 o'clock
in the morning
at these weed festivals
kids try to take
my neck off bro
hey burn
take a dab
it's a fucking
fat ass glob
y'all just want me
to die
yeah
the big though
I can't fuck with dabs I can't either bro you a dab guy no I fat ass glob. Y'all just want me to die. I can't fuck with dabs, Brandon.
I can't either, bro.
You a dab guy?
I can't lie to you.
I had hit a dab in a Korean dispensary
one time.
In Korea?
No, it was a Korean dispensary
in LA.
I just felt like the guy saw me
coming. Pause.
He seen me and said, that's Noriega.
He said, I would like to give you a dad.
This was before Dad came out.
He came for you, bro.
He lit the shit with a torch.
I said, I knew from the torch that this wasn't my league.
I should not be here.
But he lit it with the torch.
And I didn't want him to waste all this time.
So I said, I'm going to try.
And two months later, I was still coughing. You I'ma try And two months later
I was still coughing
You woke up
Still coughing
Two months later
Just thinking about
The Korean this mystery
I've seen artists go to hospital
Off
Off dabs
Off dabs
Off dabs
I've seen artists go down
Like big time
I'ma bust one out
Cause you got me drunk
Bizarre I love you
But that Wiz did you dirty bro
D12 Bizarre Man D12 Bizarre, I love you, but Wiz did you dirty, bro. D12 Bizarre?
Man.
D12 Bizarre?
He's a cool guy, man, but Wiz did him dirty, bro.
Wiz played him, bro.
Oh, yeah?
Off a dab?
Yeah, Wiz gave him a hot big dab.
Bizarre ready for drink chances.
We want to hear his side of the story.
I was outside.
I was on the phone.
I seen him come out.
I look around.
Did he hold his chest? He was like like this and he held his chest again and they made a call and a truck pulled up and he was out and I was
like damn they did big boy dirty that's my homie too I'm like damn so man shout out to Bizarre Man he did you dirty I'm
admit it right now. Nothing was wrong with that. It's got some keef on it. Yo, listen.
I'll be honest.
I'm not for the dabs.
That is like... That is the...
That's the highest form of weed.
Like, that's like...
Like, after that, it's crack.
It's 100%.
Like, that's it.
That's it.
That's what I'm saying.
That shit is...
I don't like dabs
because it reminds me
when I used to do powder, bro.
It makes your heart
jump through your chest.
Nothing about that feels good. I'm a big boy. I'm 300 plus. So I don't want to feel this going
on. I don't want to feel that. I'm going to start feeling my shit. That's why Bizarre
probably felt his heart. He was having a fucking heart attack. I don't blame him.
You ever passed out doing the dab or something like that?
You know what? I was never dumb enough to do one like that, bro. I never let no one
get me, bro. God damn let no one get me, bro.
God damn it.
Me too.
Fuck that dab.
When I did the dab,
I had a low temperature.
I took just a little bit.
I hit that motherfucker
real softly to taste it
and see what it was about.
I was cool
because I was also
on the other end
watching everyone
trying to take people down
on dabs.
All tour wiz was like,
I'm going to get this motherfucker.
He would just knock him down
with the dab.
That's what made me make the song Wax Room.
I made a song called Wax Room because on tour I walked in and seen everybody like this.
I was like, damn, what the fuck?
I looked at Wiz and he just had.
I was like, damn.
So what exactly is a dab?
So you take all the THC off the plant, and you make a concentrate.
You do it either with water, ice cold water, or with butane.
So it's like if you were juicing the plant?
It's just like a fucking juice.
It's almost like a juice.
No, I'm saying it's like if you cold press it.
And you take all the strawberries, and you make that bitch a little shot.
Yeah, you take all the weed weed and you make yourself a little glob
and you hit that shit
and that shit's going to fuck you up.
Now, how about sauce?
You fuck with the sauce?
I like sauce because of the way it looks.
You know, it smells really good.
But again, I do a real low temp.
I even rap about it, man.
I try to give my fans advice.
Low temp.
Nothing major.
Nothing hot.
No big old sauce dabs.
It's going to fuck your day up.
I even throw the wax in the blunt.
I like wax, but I throw it in the blunt, because I'm a foul nigga.
See, I'm not a wax guy.
Is it dirty?
Is that a dirt?
No, wax.
The wax.
I know, I know.
See, when I was young and wild, I was on reggae in the river in Northern California.
Reggae in the river?
Reggae in the river.
I was probably like 22, 23. I was on cocaine and Grey Goose for three days in the river in Northern California. Reggae in the river? Reggae in the river. I was probably like 22, 23.
I was on cocaine and Grey Goose for three days in the hot sun.
Sounds like cocaine and Grey Goose.
Only, no water.
Nothing.
I was drinking Grey Goose, wilding out with a bunch of beautiful women.
And your boy dropped.
And I felt, before it happened, I felt my chest go like that.
I felt my heart jump hella hard.
And I dropped dropped i had to
have the medics come and shit so that's why i had anxiety to this day because i always think about
that because i probably was about to die right but that's why i don't fuck with the hash because
when i smoked after that happened now mind you before that happened this is like i was smoking
big hash in amsterdam and in the bay i would love hash i eat ed do all this shit. But when I try to smoke it after that situation,
it made me feel like that day,
which created anxiety.
I think getting off cold,
cold Turkey,
I stopped drinking and real talk.
I'm not just saying that I don't drink.
So I had to stop drinking because be a bartender,
you drink,
you do a little powder,
you fuck with drinking and cocaine.
Cause the drink chance,
right?
That's why I stayed away from this
my guy
when I seen this I envisioned
taking hella shots with him
my hair growing back to be slicked right away
and grabbing like 15 mommies
at the strip club like come on we going to tizzy's
you leave playing Phil Collins taking bumps
and shit right now
that's what
that's what made me
stop drinking
was all that shit
so I honestly
just to let y'all know
I haven't drank in a
very long time
I'm not saying that
for the show
I'm not saying that
because I want sympathy
with the drinks
I just don't drink no more
but I had to step away
from it
I was a party boy
big time
one day we stepping
away from it
one day
yeah
well here's the good thing
we contractually
fucked up for a little while.
I'm telling you.
We're going to survive our contract.
If you're not doing blow with alcohol, you're good.
My problem was.
Well, hey, stop it, bro.
That's our engineer.
My problem was when I was bartending, it was Friday night, hip hop night.
Saturday night, techno.
Sunday, salsa.
That's a different drug every night.
No, techno.
You got to be high to be in a techno club.
No, it wasn't that. it was the salsa club.
Salsa?
They found out I was 19,
I had all the girls,
the Cuban dude,
Baba,
come here.
Put a little key in my fucking face,
that's how I learned it.
Oh shit,
I'm up back.
Why you not be a Cuban guy,
bro?
I don't know,
that's what it was.
That's what it was.
The Cubans used to give me bumps all night,
it was fucked up.
He's Cuban. You're Cuban?ans used to give me bumps all night. It was fucked up. He's Cuban.
You're Cuban?
Yeah.
Man, you motherfuckers.
I stand away from you.
Y'all motherfuckers are at the party, man.
Y'all know how to get a cracker for real.
Oh, shit.
So, Cookies, what's the next step?
Is there plans of Cookies New York?
Absolutely. Cookies What's the next step Is there plans Of Cookies New York Absolutely My whole thing bro
Is I want to make sure
That my brand
Is able to put
Good flour
In all these markets
New York
All on the east coast
All in the midwest
Places that love
That Cali bud
Right
Instead of some weirdo
Rich guy coming
And growing some bullshit
I want to make sure
That the good flour
Is available
For all the New Yorkers
All the east coasters
All the midwest They've been a fan of it Y'all been smoking I'd flowers available for all the New Yorkers, all the East Coasters, all the Midwest.
They've been a fan of it.
Y'all have been smoking.
I'd love to get high with New Yorkers.
I want to make sure y'all got the shit, man.
So nationwide expansion is next.
Global expansion.
There's Cookies Israel being built right now.
Crazy.
Bro, I ain't never told nobody this.
It's about to be done by October.
Cookies Israel?
Yes, my guy.
That's hot. Yes gosh ha yes I never been
I'm going I don't know bro wherever they're doing they do a lot of medical
research out there they grow a lot of weed out there but wherever that's at
there's where I'm gonna be at Wow expansion, brother. I want to spread this good
herb around. We got a good menu. And Amsterdam as
well? Fuck yeah.
Is it hard to get into Amsterdam?
I think you should have just said it's hard to get in.
Amsterdam is a gray area, brother. There's no laws
out there.
They're tolerated. What's that mean?
That means if I get popping and I'm
a minority and I got young people coming
to shut me down, they make up the rules as they go.
I'm just not down for that.
But we're figuring out the little loopholes.
We're going to get it done.
Yeah, because there's been times I went to Amsterdam and they had trash weed as well.
Yeah.
Like they didn't have California weed.
But gray area has always been a green place.
That's the name of it?
Green place.
They always have No Green House
Green House too
But Green Place
Oh Green Place
Green Place
Yeah yeah
Green Place
That's our like
Main spot
Like me and Styles P
Stood there for six hours
Shout out to Styles P
Me and him got a great album too
I love that guy right there
Oh that's damn nigga
Call 5
Everybody
Hey look
When I was in there with Styles
We got so high and recorded that album so
fucking fast, it was like an adrenaline rush.
I'm like, I'm fucking loaded man, turn the mic on.
Buy me something.
I'm like, god damn, how did he spit that shit?
He could rap his ass off.
When I first met Styles P, I thought we was going to fight.
Because the nigga, he took some of my weed and he just he just smoked it
and he didn't pass it to me
and I didn't know
he was a personal guy
at the time
so I'm just looking like
this nigga touched my weed
one more time
and don't pass it to me
it's gonna be on
it's been on TV
since then
and I'm talking about
ever since then
me and this motherfucker
and then I realized
that he didn't
he was a personal guy
he smoked
for himself yeah he likes to have he likes that personal yeah he didn't let him know if he smoked
together he said what he said he said something about nah man we some son we smoke our own like
yeah yeah yeah but i made it in my all the time too though yeah yeah i'm with that too now
but back then that was like you don't hey he had literally just seen the weed and he just took a piece.
I was like, dude, what the fuck?
He didn't even ask me.
I was like, look, that's cool.
That's my brother.
Shit, I'm getting the keys to my crib right now.
So we went from there to there.
Straight brother.
Yeah, straight brother.
That's one of the vibes.
He's just like, be real, one of the legends that never changed up, bro.
Just solid, bro.
A big him up and his wife um every time they come to miami we go out with me and my wife and
i actually eat vegan food with them like i turn vegan when they come out here juice bar out here
with them i was definitely i was vegan for like three months that shit was cool yeah yeah yeah i
was vegan but i was i was i got turned soft really like somebody stepped on my shoe, and I apologized to them.
Like estrogen in your veganism?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the only thing about being vegan.
No, it was opposite, my guy.
I was hangry.
You was aggressive?
I was hangry.
Oh, no.
I was hangry, bro.
I need it.
Fuck y'all eating, bro.
No, no, because listen.
It gets confusing after a while, because you don't want to just eat rice and French fries and noodles.
No, but you got to go to some of the best Jamaican food.
Vegan is Jamaican food. I'mican food. Vegan is Jamaican food.
I'm telling you.
Vegan is Jamaican food?
Some of the best vegan food is Jamaican.
Okay.
Like, you got to go to a good, like, there's this place out here, Vegetarian Delight, where we get our-
Shout out to them, man.
What do they got?
They got, like-
Oh, they got pepper steak.
Oh, everything.
Coconut's got lobster.
They got fake lobster, bro.
What is it though
Let me ask you this
When I was vegan
I didn't do no fake nothing
I don't wanna know
I did a veggie burger
That was like
Brown rice
Mushroom
And some little almonds
Oh those are trash
Don't fuck with those
That was fire
Impossible burgers
Impossible burgers on the chain
Nah nah bro
What is that bro
What is that
It's impossible to know
Nah nah bro
What is it
I'm a big conspiracy
No you're right
You're right
No we was talking about that I'm a big conspiracy man Nah that you're right. You're right. No, we was talking about that.
I'm a big conspiracy, man.
That shit is good.
The fake everything vegan, you don't know what the fuck.
Nah, it's worse for you.
It's GMO, in a sense.
It's GMO.
It's processed.
Get a goddamn black bean burger, bro.
You can't go wrong with that.
Yo, Burger King out here.
Real vegan to eat salad.
Burger King out here on the vegan tip right now.
Burger King out here.
I heard they shit is good.
Man.
That's going to be GMO shit again.
I like Whoppers, man. I can't lie. Whoppers are kind of fire, man. Whoppers are kind of fire. I heard they shit is good. Man. I like Whoppers, man. I can't lie.
Whoppers are kind of fire, man. Whoppers are kind of fire.
I agree. I would agree with that.
What? Whoppers?
You got to relax.
Let me ask you something. Do you think that
in terms of the legal cannabis world,
is hip-hop ahead of everybody else?
Nope.
Like on the business side of it?
Nah.
Majority artists
Start something
And they just don't
Follow through with it
It takes a lot of time bro
Like
Right
I mean
So like the people you see
In the business next to you
Like the peers in that world
None of them are hip hop artists
Like are there other artists
Or are they just
Business people
Let me give you an example
I'm in Miami
Right
I'm drinking with y'all
There's a strip club
Down the street
Oh
Yo Self shot Self shot I'm in Miami. Right. I'm drinking with y'all. There's a strip club down the street. Oh.
Yo.
That's what I thought it was supposed to be.
Self-shock.
Self-shock.
But any other normal artist would be here drinking, let the night slip by.
I'm over here watching my shit, go to the strip club, fuck around, be up all night, miss.
I got a 6 a.m. flight.
I got to catch that flight because we got a permit to sell weed in Golden Gate Park for the first time ever.
There's going to be outside lands with like 100,000 people in Frisco.
And we're selling weed and I got to get there tomorrow to do paperwork and to make sure we got our product together and all that.
And so I can't, I don't see other artists, and I be no disrespect, being that disciplined, bro.
Shit's hard.
I'm tempted to go have fun.
I'm starting to think about all kinds of shit.
But I don't see a lot of artists
Being able to be that disciplined
And say nah I gotta cut this off at this time
I gotta make sure I'm home
Make sure my bags are packed
Man rappers man they ain't doing that shit
They getting fucked up in some places
As an artist I'm a piece of shit
But as a CEO I'm on time
Well there's a big window right now
I'm sorry a small window right now Or I'm sorry A small window
Right now
Where you can get it
You can really get it
And I feel like Cookies
Has a chance to be
One of them brands
That really goes
And that shit
That shit alone
Gives me anxiety
Because I come from shit bro
What
You know I grew up
On top of a studio
On top of my dad's restaurant
In a studio apartment
With my brother
And my dad
And one of my dad's homies
And if you know
A studio apartment
You from New York You know what's up Them motherfuckers is small there's no room bro
and so to think that i could potentially be one of these guys that makes it the right way and
has a real successful exit that shit trips me out alone all right so i being the ceo i gotta
take my shit serious right yeah ceo i see y'all basically long story short lamest terms i don't
have fun no more.
Why?
I can't.
Why?
Because if I miss it
and I fuck up,
and trust me,
a lot of these big business
suit dudes,
they don't want me to make it.
Look at me.
Right.
I've got a $250,000
weed leaf on my neck.
They don't want me to make it.
Right, right.
You know, they want to keep it
just like every other business.
Fuck that.
Right.
That's one of the things
we're doing, too,
with the equity
empowerment program.
So cities get people that have been arrested, been put in jail or have been charged with weed crimes or have a certain amount of income, the opportunity to have to be a partner in a business.
So you can't open a business unless you involve an equity applicant.
Now a lot of these guys are just paying them off a little small money to get it done.
I'm actually doing real business with them, giving them half of the store earnings, whatever,
giving them a real salary, teaching them business,
providing generational wealth opportunities
for people all through different cities.
In Boston, I forgot to mention we're in Boston,
San Francisco and Oakland.
So, you know, the shit's trippy, bro.
We're trying to keep people from the game in the game.
Straight up.
Make some noise for that guy.
Come on, man. I mean, we can't forget. We're trying to keep people From the game in the game Straight up Make some noise for that God damn it
I mean we can't forget
Like I said
You're on some Kennedy shit
Cause if people don't know history
The Kennedys made their wealth
Through bootlegging
When liquor was illegal
He ain't bootlegging
I didn't know that
No no but I'm saying
It starts from that
Like this was not a legal business
Became legal
It's still going through it.
And that's why I think that's young Kennedy shit.
Thank you.
Hope they don't assassinate my ass.
No, no, no.
There's still some Kennedys alive.
Nah, one just OD, dude.
Rest in peace.
One, yes.
Oh, yeah, the girl.
Granddaughter of...
Can people...
Not Robert.
A Cookies franchise?
You know, we haven't really done it like that yet.
Nah, we want to keep it... Like a, like I can buy a Subway right now.
You can't buy a cookie.
It's more like Chick-fil-A.
Oh, Chick-fil-A.
You don't give it to everyone.
You don't give it to everyone.
So I go to a city.
I'm going to look at your infrastructure.
I'm going to look at your whole history, how you rock.
I'm going to look at your grow, how you grow your shit, how shit how you cure your shit i'm gonna look at how you operate without us if you're
killing it then you're gonna be able to go blue and we're gonna turn this shit up we're gonna put
the right your necks in your grove we're gonna turn you up we're gonna take a small royalty
and then you know do a buyback program when it's all time to go so i'm on my i'm on my founder
without being shady shit but shit filet not fucking with everybody so it's like
i'm not fucking with everybody because if you do that you water down the brand
but fire ourselves a little better you know i mean so you know you gotta just kind of go where
you want to go everywhere but you pick your partners wisely and my whole thing is quality
control bro if you can grow it and i'll smoke it then we'll do a deal wait what is that if people what if people grow it and i'll smoke it we'll do a deal Wait What is that If you go what
If people grow it
And not smoke it
We could do a deal
Oh okay
So is that the way it works
They have to grow it
In their area
For you
For it to even
Start a conversation
Well yeah
If I go to Baltimore
If I go to
You know
If I go to Boston
They already have to be operating
Cause you can't
Transport
Yeah you can't go
Federally
The federally
Won't let you go
You know
Different states
And shit like that
God damn it So wait So the Have the feds ever Came to cookie Federally won't let you go, you know, different states and shit like that.
God damn it.
So, wait.
So, have the feds ever came to cookies yet?
Well.
Well, what happened was. They used to fuck me and get off the airplane.
Wait, what?
All the time.
Little shot of Tiger Bone.
What?
Can't do that.
Little tiny bit.
You good.
Nah, I'm done.
I'm done.
I love you, brother.
We drink champs.
Come on.
Give me more champagne. You can't let 50 Cent do more than you. I. I don't want to die. I don't want to die late, brother. We drink champagne. Come on. Give me more champagne.
You can't let 50 Cent do more than you.
I'm just done with that.
Man, look.
At least you got to do two.
He did five.
Two things.
50's on Xanax and 50's buff.
I'm fat and I'm on Xanax.
I'm not going out like that, bro.
No, you ain't got to worry about it.
Let me just tell you something.
This is natural.
It's all natural.
Man.
This is the doctor.
Hey, coca leaf is natural, dog.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
The doctor prescribes this, my brother
Sonny, read the ingredients of the bottle
It's good
It's good for you
Man, look
Just two, just two
Here's what you forget
I need some more champagne
I'll watch your show, my dog
And see what happens
He sees a slide
Look, I know I got an early flight
Two artists pulling up to the studio
I got to see some moment in Miami And get my shit done But I'm going to drink some and be like, I got to see the moment in Miami
and get my shit done.
But I'm going to drink
some champagne with you.
No problem.
Come on,
come on,
some more champagne.
Yeah, give me more champagne.
And we're going to do
one last shot.
That's it.
That's it.
Two is your lucky number.
Tell me the truth, though.
With Xanax,
am I fucked, bro?
No, no, you're not.
No, because it's natural.
I'm going to be honest.
Tiger Bone goes with nothing,
but it goes with everything.
If it makes sense.
That's it.
That's it. that's it.
You gonna have me in tootsies in a divorce?
No, no.
You gonna have me going through DMs?
No, we will not do that.
Skull emojis, skull emojis.
And cuz they don't kick it for 24 hours,
how the hell is it tomorrow?
No, what'd you say?
He said, he said it kicks in in 24 hours.
No, he's playing with you.
No, no, no, you doze off and don't wake up.
He's trying to scare you. Let me give you no. You doze off and don't wake up.
He's trying to scare you.
Let me give you a Xanian hat and give you this shirt then.
So,
let's touch on that
for a second
because what the fuck
is a Xanax?
I don't even know what that is.
Let me say this.
Bro,
do not take Xanax.
And if you're watching this,
it's terrible.
I would love to get off
for one day.
As far as I know,
because if you think about it, bro, I'm in a shark tank 24-7 with multi-billionaires.
I'm independent.
I never went to college.
I'm running now a billion-dollar business.
God damn it.
Next to guys that are super more savvy, super smarter than me.
So from cookies clothing, cookies weed business, the music, Santa Cruz Shredder, G-Pen, Reestash Jar, Weed Maps.
Well, G-Pen is you too.
That's right.
The 13 businesses I have, your boy be going through it.
I'm talking about 17-hour days.
Don't get to see the fam much.
But a lot of stress.
You know, weed game is political.
If you think it's just legal now and people are making money I got to do with politics, bro
I could imagine, yeah
It's really political
Motherfuckers be tripping
And it'd be a lot of bullshit
And this shit changes daily
Long story short
It's not an excuse
But I've had anxiety for a while
When I quit drinking
And doing cold, cold turkey
Right
That was good for me
But it gave me a crazy anxiety
I don't know what it was
It gave me a crazy anxiety
My heart was always tripping and shit
So I take Xanax once a day Because I have to, because of the amount of business I do.
But with me trying to get my body back right and shit like that, I don't really want to be on that no more.
So I got to figure out a way to get off that practice.
The way you talk about cocaine is like you Scarface-level cocaine.
Scar Storch-level cocaine.
Hey, bro, I was on Storch, but I was one of them boys.
You need to get that already?
Come on, man.
What's your problem?
Oh, see, how he getting out?
Come on, man.
I'm with her.
Yeah, get in.
He poured it down his chest.
Let me see his Tiger Bomb box, man.
Let me put a box in it, man.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Yo, Burner, man, once again, we give people their powers while they alive.
We are so happy.
We are so sad when people pass away or people, and they give people these accolades afterwards let me see that real quick okay you got me in
the same level as you pop you want me to go a little heavier I go heavier now
okay I got you we're gonna do that we're gonna salute you my brother this is for you
it's my last one dude drink chairs drink chairs Taking a picture?
I've been drinking this for 20 years
and I'm not used to it.
How are you not used to something
you've been doing for 20 years?
I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't mind the taste.
I'm scared of what's going to happen to me.
That's why I'm wearing it.
No, no, no.
To tell you the truth,
you know what this is?
We didn't mind the taste in the beginning either.
You know what this is for?
You're right.
You're right.
You know what this is for?
All right.
You're going to give me your shits.
This is the funniest shit.
This is the funniest shit in the world.
Back in the days,
juice bars in New York City was the cheap doctor.
It was a place where you would go,
your hand hurt,
they would have a care for you in the juice bar.
The Jamaicans or the West Indians
would be behind there. I would have everything care for you in the juice bar. The Jamaicans or the West Indians would be behind there.
I would have everything.
So one day, I see the old man come in there, and he hugged the Ross.
And the way he hugged Ross, I said, I need to know what the fuck he hugged him for.
Because this is a grown man.
He had tears in his eyes.
You could tell he was an OG.
He had gators on,
so that depicted it.
He a real nigga, like in New York,
if you got gators on, anywhere if you pass 50,
you a real nigga, right?
So I looked, I said, the nigga got gators on,
he about that life.
So I asked him, I said, yo, my man,
why did you hug the homie like that?
Like,
I needed to know,
like,
because it was a different hug.
He's like,
I like it to him.
You know?
He said,
he looked at me in my face,
said,
young man,
my dick ain't working
16 years.
And Tiger.
And he said,
man,
you give me this shit
in Miami?
I'm going to tell you
right now,
this is why this is a terrible story that he tells about Tiger Bone.
We got no business talking about that this shit makes you dick hard.
There's a bunch of dudes drinking this shit right now.
Man, my wife's going to see this shit.
When you put it like that, it doesn't get you.
Every time you say this shit, I cringe, bro.
I'm like, stop telling our guests this story, bro.
No, but because this was L to me, like, this was ill, like, because, like, he, he,
so, but it wasn't just Tiger, it was a combination, it was Tiger, it was, like, some blue pills,
it was, like, wheatgrass, like, whatever, like, he.
The natural Viagra, that's what it was supposed to be.
And listen to me, so I saw, I asked the dude, I said, why are you like that?
Because I'm curious, like, you know, I knew I was going to get older someday cuz I'm curious like, you know I knew I was gonna get older someday so like
Curious
He's been busted off but listen, so what I'm looking I said,, yo, what? Yeah, you can't even buy it no more.
Trump don't let that shit in.
So I said, I know.
Sure as long as you ask, don't.
I said, I know,
like, I'm going to get older.
So I said, he said,
yo, I told my wife to cheat.
This is what the man is telling me.
He said he told his wife to cheat
because he couldn't, you know,
he couldn't get it.
That's cold.
And he said his wife would.
So she did everything.
She did the buyout.
Nothing worked for him. But motherfucking Typhoon paid to the motherfuckers. And he said his wife would so she did she did everything she did the buyer nothing's nothing work for
The story is an amazing story, but this is what he gets out his wife
I got a crazy long-haired Mexican wife at the house
that's going to see this
and be like,
oh, you was drinking
that shit in my house.
She's going to be ready.
Don't worry.
My wife is Puerto Rican
and Cuban
and she's watching as well.
Don't worry about it.
That's right.
Don't worry about it.
I come home every night.
God damn it.
God damn it.
I might come home late,
but I come home.
Do you have a driver?
You're not driving
after you leave, right?
No, I don't drive.
I don't drive.
Can you tell your man from Kendall? Can he run my thing to the DMV now? He's not from after you leave. No, I don't drive. I don't drive. Okay, listen. You know what? Can you tell your man from Kendall?
Can he run my thing to the DMV now?
He's not from Kendall, bro.
He's in Hialeah.
Damn, you hooked me up with a nigga from Hialeah?
I don't understand where this is going.
But yeah, can you tell him to run my name to the DMV because I paid off all my tickets?
You want me to tell him right now on Dream Chats?
Yeah, place.
On my own Dream Chats.
You know, bro, I never had a license.
I'm 41 years old.
Can I tell you the truth? I never had a license. I had a permit once. I don't drive. You don, bro, I never had a license. I'm 41 years old. Can I tell you the truth?
I never had a license.
I had a permit once.
I don't drive.
You don't drive?
I sit in the back.
I sit in the back
and make big cars.
I make big cars.
Goddamn, make some more.
I'm sorry, I drive.
Only one time I drove.
Oh, three times I drove.
You're getting all the good stories.
The first time I drove,
I bought a whip when I was 16.
Then I was smoking in my whip When I was 16 Then I was smoking
In my whip
Was in the park
Took off
Was driving
Thinking I was cool as fuck
And I hit an old man
Oh
Oh come on
And I
I stopped the car
I stopped there
And the old man
Popped out
You bitch ass motherfucker
And I just
Bet the corner
And did
Oh you hit and ran
I hit that motherfucker and I ran.
Well, he said that motherfucker jumped up.
When I seen him jump up, I said, he's not dead.
I'm not.
Or he's a trailer that was bumping.
The problem is, I got my whip back to the house.
I parked it.
I sat there.
I smoked another one.
And then my high ass hit the thing.
I turned it.
And the car was going like this.
And it just capri-sunned my neighbor's whip. It didn't. You turned all the way in the thing. I turned it. And the car was going like this. And it just capri-sunned my neighbor's whip.
It didn't.
You turned all the way and it whipped.
I should have stopped, backed up, turned it.
But I'm just thinking I'm like fucking whatever.
So I crushed that dude's car and had to go hide the car.
And I knew the neighbor knew.
He was an older man.
I knew he knew it was my shit because the car never came back.
And I just said, you know what, Brian?
You're going to kill somebody.
So I'm not driving no more.
Fuck you.
And I haven't had a driver ever since.
And, being a pack boy, I never
wanted to drive anyways. I probably would have been in jail
if I would be driving, so.
Goddamn, let's make some noise for niggas not driving.
Yeah, come on.
You're stupid.
I love it.
I'm still driving.
Nah, you better spend some money here, man. I'm going to be honest,
my nigga. I'm going to be honest.
This is the cheapest. Yo, listen, this nigga ain't spent nothing here, man. I'm going to be honest, man. I'm going to be honest. This is the cheapest.
Yo, listen, this nigga ain't spend nothing, my man.
I'm going to invest this time.
This nigga gets money.
Are you serious?
I'm trying to get him to invest in his life.
Yo, listen.
I tried to get him to get a chain.
I was like, yo, let's get a chain.
He's like, what?
Fuck that shit.
I said, damn it, man.
Like, everyone has a chain. Get a chain. I have a chain. And's like, what? Fuck that shit. I said, damn it, man. Like, everyone has a chain.
Get a chain.
I had a chain.
And I said, fuck that shit, man.
It's a liability.
I can't lie.
This guy don't want to spend shit.
This nigga's going.
That's a lie.
Oh, no.
All right.
All right.
I still got your back, brother.
But Jesus, man.
Come on.
You on drink champs.
You need a chain.
That way, if people get dizzy, they can just look at the chain. They drink champs you need a chain that way people get dizzy
they can just look at the chain you don't need to get a chain this guy gotta do his stuff man
he gotta get gold gold sneakers and stuff look after he hits this London pound cake he gonna
get a chain for sure let's see if he hit this you had me hit a Keith pre-roll drink some tiger
shit from China you smoke that shit you drink the Columbia White. I'm in, brother. I was smoking shit out of that shit right there.
I've been trying to get him and Fat Joe high
for 20 years.
You keep washing your hands. You're smart, dude.
You know my weakness. I know yours.
It's not going to go well.
I've been trying to get him and Fat Joe high for 20 years.
But listen, one day,
Fat Joe, we're out on dinner
and Mr. Charles
and Fat Joe had we're out on dinner, and Mr. Charles.
Mr. Charles.
And Fat Joe had a toothache, so we had the vapor.
And I passed it to Fat Joe, and he hit it.
And I felt like I won it in life.
Yeah, he said that.
I felt like, I was like, oh, shit, he hit it. So he hit like two, three, three, four.
But I didn't think he'd get high i just
thought he got unnumbed because his tooth was up but it was still a victory for me you
ever watch um entourage johnny drama yeah that's what i was like the whole time victory did he
inhale it though he inhaled it i think he did i think he did, because then I got him to shoot my nephew's video. Oh, God.
Right.
Do a video.
I knew he was high as hell.
Don't let me hang it, nigga.
I knew he was high as hell.
He was just staring there like, oh, shit, this nigga Norrie actually got me in a video.
Like, it was unplanned.
But this is just how we roll, Jermaine.
This is how we roll.
Naturally, things that happen like that is amazing.
Yeah, always.
Always, man.
Live for those moments. Oh, we're going to get you to drink some. Always, always, man. Live for those moments.
We're going to get to drink some more champagne.
Get some more champagne.
I'm full.
I know what's up.
You know, look, being burner, I've been peer pressured into a lot of things.
I like that shit, though.
I learned how to avoid the peer pressure.
It's hard.
It's hard.
No, but you're a legend.
They black burner.
They black burner.
Let me just get 100, bro.
Just one last. Let me get a box.burn. Let me just get a hundred, bro. Just one last.
Let me get a box.
A hundred pounds?
Let me get a thousand pounds.
And everyone in and around, come on, fam.
It's big artists.
And their entourage is trying to peer pressure me to bounce back and relapse.
And I have to look at them and say, no.
I'm not going to do that.
I love you, though, brother.
Here, matter of fact, smoke this shit.
And it's always cool.
So I'm going to do that.
Why?
Because if I drink too much, I know what's gonna happen.
I'm gonna miss my flight, I'm not gonna rap good
on the song I'm about to go do right now,
I'm probably gonna end up in a strip club,
I might bareback something.
Oh!
And then you have a kid in Miami.
I know old Burns and I'll tell y'all this,
the reason why I've been to Miami five times
and never came to drinks apps,
I'm like he's going to get me bro
Let me ask you something
So what club have you been taught
To like in Miami
What is they telling us
It doesn't matter
The best time I ever had in Miami
In a nightclub was at 11
I think 11 is trash
You know what for me that night
It wasn't trash
It's like Cirque du Soleil strip clubs
No
Oh you're talking about strip clubs
Yeah I mean you named That's a strip so come down south go to showgirls
um don't go to showgirls they got bullet wounds trust me yo i've only been to tootsies one time
here that's it you see see like i'm gonna i'm gonna there's a little confrontation on there
i feel like i was on the prison yard i'm gonna'm going to put you on. Nine Twizzies. Twizzies is not the prison yard. Twizzies is upscale.
That's upscale.
Okay.
What you need to do is booby trap on the river.
My boy Michael Corleone told me about that spot.
And I'm going to tell you.
I think you should buy a system over there too.
At nighttime, but that's like the top nonchalant.
If you go in the daytime, that's low self-esteem.
Can I tell you something?
So you'll be great.
They treat you very great.
I apologize for speaking like this because I'm on Tiger Bomb.
But daytime girls.
Daytime they have low self-esteem.
Listen to me.
I don't touch nothing.
I just look.
No, I used to.
I have looked.
When I was in my prime.
We were ex-strip club goers.
I was ex-strip club goers.
Can I tell you in confidence?
Yes, please. To the world. Nobody's listening. I was a king of strip clubs, bro. Before I was in my prime. We were ex-strip club goers. I was ex-strip club goers. Please, can I tell you in confidence? Yes, please.
To the world in my prime.
Nobody's listening.
I was the king of strip clubs, bro.
Before I was settled down.
And let me tell you something.
My game, 100%.
In San Fran?
In San Fran, but everywhere we toured and went.
Dayshift.
They're bored.
They're new.
The new girls go there.
You know about the dayshift.
They're low in confidence.
Okay, you know about it.
And they get off at 6 p.m.
Oh, my goodness.
And so, I love the day.
All right, guys.
Talk to it.
It was very easy for me.
I go in.
I have six cell phones on the table.
I smell like this.
They want to know who I was and what I was doing.
I said, listen, they talk more when you get off at 6, baby.
I'll be right out front.
And that was just the game.
Is Take One still around?
Take One should have took one. Because Take One had one shift. Because God damn front and that was just the game take one
took one take one had one shift cuz god damn it that's it take one was foul take
one's foul showgirls I didn't know you were a strip club guy no I used to be
I'm recovering
it feels good to share my past addiction With fellow addicts
Gold Rush
See I like the Gold Rush
I don't like
Club Black
I'm going to say it like this though
I like Gold Rush
Hey
All these big cities
Like Miami
And all this shit
Bro you never
Experienced the Bay
Because all the girls
Would come from
Small surrounding cities
That just wanted to be
In the big city
And there's a street
Called Broadway Street
There's like 11 strip clubs
On that street.
All right.
And it was just a goldmine, brother.
I'm going to just tell you why Bane was always a little crazy to me in the strip clubs and the Bane.
It's because the hyphy thing.
They're like, chicks will come up to me and just be like.
I was like, damn, bitch, what the fuck are you doing?
That's what they do at first.
And then she start wiggling her ass.
I was like, no, no, that's what you said.
I was a little confused.
That's what you said.
Bitch, get your crazy ass out of my face.
Let me get that little lost girl in the corner.
Come over here.
Yeah, that little happy one's getting no play.
So now let me talk about the Bay Area.
Because Fillmore Street, what was your affiliation to Fillmore Street?
Because that's Fillmore Slim.
That's like, books wrote about that.
I used to live on Fillmore in California with my dad on top of my dad's restaurant. So I used to take the 22 Fillmore Slim, that's like, books wrote about that. I used to live on Fillmore in California with my dad, on top of my dad's restaurant.
So I used to take the 22 Fillmore to school.
And that's Big Pimpin' right there.
Yeah, we used to go to Blockbuster right there and steal all the movies and shit, video games.
We'd go sell them to the barber right there on the corner.
I just said Blockbuster.
That's the first Netflix, nigga.
It's the first Netflix, nigga.
I used to hang out out there.
That's it.
So, oh damn.
So did you ever meet Phil Moore Slim?
Nah, I never met Pippin, man.
I never met Pippin.
I read books about that nigga.
Yeah, he had it cracking, bro.
Yeah, he had it cracker-lacking.
Smooth guy.
Smooth guy.
Sure.
You were like the first Snoop Dogg.
Man, he was like a pimp Snoop Dogg, but just in a whole rare form.
He just had it cracking.
So, you ever tried to be a pimp?
Because I tried to be a pimp for a week.
It didn't work out for me.
Well, you know.
And the Bay is known for pimping.
Unfortunately, I fell into the Bay Area rap scene.
Yeah, I had girls give me money,
but it was more like babysitting.
You didn't like it?
Nah, bro.
I mean, at first, when I was first coming up,
yeah, I liked it.
Bitches giving you $5,000, $700, $800, $300, $10 racks.
They all want to compete with each other.
Oh, you went through it. You went through it. Oh, yeah, I really went through it, bro. Did you have the curly hair and shit? Nah, I, 300, 10 racks. They all want to compete with each other. Oh, you went through it.
You went through it.
Oh, yeah, I really went through it, bro.
Did you have the curly hair and shit?
Nah, I had sleep back hair.
He had three flowers.
My shit was boom.
Cardboard.
Wasn't moving.
Wasn't moving.
But, you know, at the end of the day, that shit's more like babysitting.
And, you know, I have a daughter now, too.
So I'm like, I can never, ever fuck with it.
But being a Bay Area rapper, I was influenced by my other fellow Bay Area rappers, the Breaka Bitch.
Too short, yeah.
You know, bitches chose, they gave bread, I had a little fun with it.
But I was like, you know what?
I ain't got time to be no fucking babysitter.
I'm out of this shit.
It's too much.
Too much drama.
And I always thought a girl's dad was going to come kill me.
It was always a weird thing I saw, and I just stopped.
Or the girl. Yeah. Or the girl. dad was going to come kill me. It was always a weird thing I saw, and I just stopped. What a girl.
Yeah.
What a girl.
That's some deep shit right there.
Get you caught up in all kinds of ways.
Because that's like one of the main hustles in the Bay Area.
Coming up in the Bay Area, it's like, you know, the music, the culture, the lifestyle teaches you that that's what you do.
You break a bitch, you milk a bitch.
It's all on the bitch.
It's just what they teach you.
All right.
You know,
I just took the game
I learned from pimping
and applied it to other businesses
which is really
just good communication.
Because in order to get a girl
to give you her money,
you've got to have
a cold mouthpiece.
You've got to be able
to talk real smooth.
You've got to be real convincing.
You've got to be real thorough.
Especially the ones
that don't hit them.
Like, they don't hit them
and they still get you
to get the money back.
You mean like guys
that hit girls and shit?
Yeah, like, yeah.
Oh, I never did none of that.
You never did that.
I just wouldn't give them the deep.
No, I say most pimps.
Most pimps do.
But I remember, like, Pimpin' Juju.
Like, that's my friend.
And I remember he would never touch it.
He would never hit his girls.
But his game was so cold that, like, I watched them, Pimpin' Juju and Pimpin' Ken.
I watched them all night, and I said, these motherfuckers is different. Pimpin' Ken, huh? You know Pimpin' Ken? Yeah. Pimp Pimp Ken. I watched them all night and I said, these motherfuckers is different.
Pimp Ken, huh?
You know Pimp Ken?
Yeah.
Pimp Ken,
I told you,
I tried to be a pimp
for one week.
It didn't work out for me.
That's just hilarious.
It didn't work out for me
because the crazy shit was,
like,
I always thought,
like, you know,
and then the chick
actually chose me.
So I was like,
yo,
bitch,
you need to choose.
That's what I thought
I was supposed to say.
That's what I thought
I was supposed to do.
But it worked.
It worked for me a lot.
I'd get $10, worked for me a lot i get
ten thousand choosing fee all the time and i just have to shake the so you got to die
yeah straight up you tell a baby girl i need you to separate yourself from every other girl trying
to rock with me and i get rap money i get paid a hundred thousand dollars a show i'm lying like
i wasn't even getting paid nothing i don't need none of you y'all need me and if you
want to live a good lifestyle and travel the world and see things you got to break some bread and bitch separate yourself from everybody and they come back with the 10 grand. I'm like goddamn
For free
You gotta choose she was like, okay I choose you I said,, I said, yo, you got to choose. She was like, okay, I choose you.
I said, oh, shit, I didn't know what to do from there.
I said, what the fuck?
She was window shopping.
No, listen, so I did the natural thing.
I said, yo, when you walk with me, just put your head down.
So she put her head down.
Pippa Kelly, Pippa Juju said, yo, youngin', if you don't give me that bitch.
And I was like, I'm keeping her.
I was like, but I didn't know what to do.
And I went to Bishop Don Warren.
And I said, Bishop, what did Moses do?
He said, you're supposed to give it away, young blood.
You don't know the first thing I'm going to do.
It's a headache, bro.
You better off.
No, definitely.
That's not me.
It wasn't me.
I was just, I had a moment.
They gave me the famous player award.
You know, they do a
War is bought the players war every year Yeah, and they so one year like they give it to a celebrity every year
So they gave me one this year, and I just I don't know why I said I'm one
A blue silk yeah, I thought I was and then I realized I'm not about that life at all.
Nah, fuck that.
Rap money is way better.
It's honest.
It's good.
Yes, yes, yes.
So.
Damn, what the fuck is that?
Rain?
That's rain?
Man, look.
I'm over here thinking all kinds of shit's happening.
I'm drunk as fuck right now.
You are.
I was going to say, because three is my lucky number.
I was going to say, you should enter that three.
I'm going to keep it real, too. I'm going to rap right now. my lucky number I was going to say You should enter that three I'm going to keep it real with you
I'm going to rap right now
No problem
Because you have to understand
My stupid medicine
Gave me a booster
Is that right?
Is that right?
It's a real medicine
That's right
But the whole thing is
I was sitting here right now
Questioning life
I'm like okay
I'm faded
I'm talking about
My pimping experience
This motherfucker Got me talking about my pimping experience
But I really want to do what the fuck is this shit is
I'm not gonna lie. We need to make our own version of tiger bone and we need to put it is it right here somebody
because that was fucking me up to the base I'm like is it the base of my heartbeat oh yeah cuz you work it in a great studio that's a dope that's a
dope studio you got me you got me so faded right now, I can't even like this shit, bro. Man, please, lady, man. Please, lady. I'm the dead, dead, dead.
We want you to feel.
I'm going to take a little shot of Tiger for you.
The 41.
Oh!
Okay.
We got to get him to smoke without him trying to take me down, bro.
He definitely not going to smoke.
I ain't going to lie to you.
He can say no, but I couldn't earlier.
It's because you're a great guy, man.
You got to attribute it to you.
So how many shots does it take to get to how I feel right now?
Well, four, I'm done.
This is three.
So I'm going to relax at three.
So four, you're done.
And two, I'm done.
I'm done at two then.
Yeah, you're good.
I mean, well, I take a little bit more for me.
Because sometimes these interviews last about two hours.
I think we just started at nine.
And what time is it right now?
Man
10.30
So we're an hour and a half right now
Something like that, right?
I'm wondering
I'm wondering how that shit
Creeped up on me though
Because I was two
And now I'm like this
Yeah
I feel like
I feel like getting the
Eel mink coat
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I feel like
I ain't gonna front you
You look like you wanna go back to pimping right now.
Whatever this shit is,
this is bad.
You got me wanting to go back to pimping.
You know what we used to do on tour?
I kid you not.
When Def Jam,
when I was
in my years on Def Jam,
Def Jam started to realize that I liked
that type of shit.
What the fuck was that?
Oh, the lights went off?
Def Jam started to realize that I liked that shit,
so what they would do is,
they would wake up in the morning
on my tour bus,
and they would give me a shot of that
right before I go to like the,
a morning show or something.
You know what that shit did do?
It took my head away too.
The shit would have you mad hyper.
The shit would have you mad hyper.
My headache,
I had a badass headache
when I came in.
Oh, it went away?
Because it's all natural.
This is all natural.
We were sitting in that hot box
and smoking for like five hours.
I didn't sleep
since I've been here.
So I had a crazy headache
when I came in,
but that shit just...
Oh yeah, this is natural.
I'm not even lying.
That's in Styles P's juice bar.
You know,
all he sells is good shit
and his shit.
He don't sell no...
Juice for life, right?
Juice for life, yep.
Shout out to styles
p so yeah what what what does it take to get you faded oh i take a lot it takes a lot i i drink i
drink um all right so if you took four tiger bombs tiger bone tiger bone not tiger tiger bomb is what
you rub on yourself if you put tiger bomb a tiger on Tiger Bone, that shit will fuck you up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck that.
Nah, nah, nah.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Go ahead.
You got a shot?
I got a shot right there.
So we're going to take this four burner.
Thank you.
Hey.
He can gracefully bow out.
It's okay.
Salute.
Salute.
It's okay.
Make it fly.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
We definitely want you to make it fly.
Keep making them business moves that can help all of us.
Salute.
Salute, goddammit.
It will help all of us.
Because when we come to Miami, I'm going to get with you guys that's doing that right
there.
We're going to get some pre-roll collabs. Absolutely. We can get some pre-roll. We've been supposed to do a pre-roll collab. That's a fact. That's a fact Miami, I'm going to get with you guys. We're going to get some pre-roll collabs.
We've been supposed to do a pre-roll collab.
I'm not going to lie. I feel very
guilty right now. We have to get this done.
We're not going to say the name of it.
We're going to get that done.
We know the name.
I feel wild right now.
That was the toughest one.
That might have been the most terrible one.
You glad?
You would have collapsed. It would have taken 12 hours. That might have been the most terrible one. You glad. I'm glad you skipped that one.
You would have collapsed.
It would have taken 12, 24 hours.
It would have been one hour.
And I don't know why I sipped it and didn't pause.
Pause, pause, pause, swallow.
Pause.
Pause.
Because I mixed it with the Moex.
So I just...
Who was the guy that got the most fucked up on the show after that?
Sadax.
Not over that.
Oh yeah, hands down. He wanted to stab motherfuckers. Sadat X. Not over that. Oh yeah, hands down.
He wanted to stab motherfuckers.
Not over that.
Not over that.
Sadat X was like, Sadat X got drunk.
He was gonna steal somebody.
He was like, I feel like robbing somebody.
I'm like, Sadat!
Sadat, what are you trying to do?
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna rob somebody.
And he got up, and I'm looking at Sadat, because this is not him at all.
Sadat was a great guy.
And it happened at the end.
We didn't even notice it.
He just got violent out of nowhere. He guy. And it happened at the end. Like, we didn't even notice it.
He just got violent out of nowhere.
Like, no one's growing up on the table.
No, no one's growing up.
Who?
Sadat?
Oh, damn.
No, but he's like a champ.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He kept on.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forgot that one.
Am I wrong?
He almost did.
Oh, he almost did.
I forgot that one.
What was 50 like when he was drunk?
That was amazing.
That was funny.
First of all, 50 is hilarious.
But the thing about him is...
He don't drink.
He don't drink, but he's a pro at controlling the situation.
So he's fucked up but didn't act like he was fucked up.
Yeah, exactly.
He acted fucked up, but he had fun with it. Yeah, he controlled the situation. So he's fucked up but didn't act like he was fucked up. Yeah, exactly. He acted fucked up
but he had fun with it.
Yeah, he controlled
the situation.
See, me, I put it
all on the table
in case when people
watch like,
damn, Perrin was fucked up.
I'll be like,
yo, this is how
I feel right now.
I mean,
I can picture him
being like...
He became a part
of the show.
No, he damn near
did stand-up
at the set of Amazon.
And not only that,
like, I love the fact that when he pulled up, he damn near did stand-up at the show. And not only that, like, I love the fact
that when he pulled up,
he told the security
to chill.
Like, he told the security,
like, you good.
And to me,
that was the biggest compliment.
He knows he's in good hands.
That was bigger than even...
Send one up to everybody.
That was bigger than
even him being on the show
to me.
I got to admit, bro.
All right.
I've been ducking the show
for a while.
Okay, that's cool.
Because I come to Miami with my brother. Right, right. And I record right next door and I'm admit, bro. Right. I've been ducking the show for a while. Okay, that's cool. Because I come to Miami with my brother.
Right, right.
And I record right next door.
And I'm like, I can't go in there.
He's going to fuck me up.
But when I seen you yesterday, you were so happy.
I was like, no, he's not going to do me dirty.
He ain't going to do me dirty, man.
He got you.
No, he doesn't.
I am a happy guy.
And then before I came in,
the homie said,
no tiger shit, bro.
You're going to get fucked up.
You're going to tell every story in the world.
I said, nah,
it was some true serum shit.
He's like, nah,
no tiger shit, homie.
No tiger shit.
And then you guys really peer pressured me.
I really give you guys props.
I was like, man,
you're like,
if I don't at least take two shots of this shit,
I'm disrespecting the show.
Let me just say something.
Let me tell you what Puff did.
Puff not only did this shit and was mad.
He took this cup.
Where's the cup?
Right here.
No, it's a different one.
We had a real dream champ's cup.
He took it and he put every liquor that we had.
We had mad liquor on the table.
And he made the whole crew, everyone.
Including Tiger Ball.
Including Tiger Ball. Including Tiger Ball.
He started with Tiger Ball.
That's sickening.
You know, I would never do that again.
I felt like I was drinking death.
I think we joined the Illuminati after that.
That was it.
All I want to know is what did he do when he left here after that?
He pulled us outside and said, we got to end this.
Mad business.
Mad business.
Mad business.
He turned sober as soon as he said cut. He said, hold it up. Hold it that shit. Mad bitches, mad bitches. Puff was mad bitches. He turned sober as soon as it was in.
He said, cut.
He said, hold it up, hold it up, cut.
He put us outside.
Man, he's a professional partier.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I got a story of Puff.
I was with Wiz, and we hopped in his car.
Well, Wiz hopped in the car with him.
We were behind him.
And Wiz had a big-ass joint burner.
And Puff said, let me hit that shit.
And he grabbed it and just threw that bitch out the window.
I was like, man, we ain't going to jail for that shit
But he hit it and threw it
Right
He got his issue
And then threw it
Then we got to the club
And tried to search it
He said man
You searching me
You searching all of us
Man it's 2017
Puff is going to kill you guys
We don't even need guns
We'll just let some gas out
And kill everyone
Let us through
And push his way through
And no one got searched
I'm like wow
Puffy is a beast
He got in the club.
Did you ever see Puff buy weed?
Never.
Nah.
That nigga never buy weed, bro.
What's up?
That nigga just smoke your shit.
I'm telling you.
Just think about it.
Just think about it.
How many times you been around, Diddy?
Have you ever said, yo, Burn, here goes some bud?
I never actually really been around him like that.
Every time I've been, I've been kind of like in the background.
Listen, man, I noticed that.
We probably did some crazy business if I would've actually got to talk to him.
Rich niggas don't spend shit.
I be noticing that.
No, them niggas don't buy shit.
Come on, nigga.
I lied to you.
Free everything, huh?
The richer the person is,
the less that they take care of the bill.
I don't know what the fuck that happens.
I'm a nice rich guy.
I pay for it.
I buy shit.
Everyone in my crew eats all the time.
I pay for everything.
Yo, O'Burner, man, let me just tell you something.
We've been trying to get you on this show for quite some time to give you your flowers.
So just in case if you were confused about this show, I want to tell you that this show is about saluting people while they alive saluting people
we are so tired of our culture that when
We say we give a great obituary when a person dies. Yeah, but where's the obituary when you alive?
It's very important, bro. You know say where's the obituary when you alive?
God bless Nipsey. But you know,
that love that he received after he was...
You think that love, he shouldn't have received
that when he was alive?
Nipsey was one of the coolest artists I've ever met.
You think that if Nipsey would have knew that love
that he would have not
knew to protect himself more?
It's because we don't do this.
We don't big each other up.
We don't say, yo, you know what?
Thank you.
I appreciate what you do.
I appreciate what you bring to the culture.
We don't do that.
So you know what we do?
That's what happens with Nipsey.
You want to hear something crazy?
Yes, no problem.
Nipsey did, he actually did randomly do that to me.
He told me he appreciated the rapping.
He was like, bro, the rap's dope.
You keep putting out classic album, I fuck with it.
He gave me props for my music, and the last time
I spoke to him, he mentioned,
you did for the word cookies what Dre did for the
word chronic. You really did that
shit, brother, because when people say cookies...
Nipsey said that to you? That's super hot.
Yes, bro, so they think about weed. Nipsey was one of the
few artists that gave me props on my music and on
my hustle. A lot of
artists, they want the weed, you know what I mean? Nipsey, he gave me props on my music and on my, on, you know, my hustle. A lot of artists, they want the weed,
you know what I mean?
And so Nipsey,
he gave me props on the music and for the cookies.
So salute to Nipsey,
man.
Recipe.
And I think that's what's important.
We need to make sure that we always show love to the different corners of
hip hop.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I'm in a different,
you know,
different lane category.
When we became podcasters,
we were in a different corner,
you know,
but you guys killed it.
You guys are killing it with this podcast.
And you're super independent.
That's another thing that I respect about you.
Man, we just really wanted to make this happen because of the phenomenal work you're doing.
And you should be saluted.
You know what I'm saying?
Thank you, brother.
This is what our platform is.
I interview artists from 8 to 80. You know what I'm saying this is this is this is what our platform is like i i interview
artists from you know 8 to 80 you know what i mean it doesn't matter but as long as they are legend
as long as they put in that time this is where we we we want to um you know big the up
man i appreciate that yeah it goes longevity man and you say you had 34 i thought you said 16. 35. 35 fucking albums. La Plaza will be my 36th album.
God, you're fucking dead.
It's just...
That's the peak catalog right there.
You know, I take my shit seriously, bro.
Like, you know, I'm very militant on the way I do things, bro.
Like, we've knocked out a good amount of records since I've been in Miami.
I got two artists pulling up to the studio right now.
One to knock out someone and knock out something else.
Like I mentioned, I'm on a 6 a.m. flight out of here.
And you're not saying
these artists' names,
neither.
No.
That's very good.
That's very good.
My name dropped.
I would rather let the game
just see what we do, bro.
You know what I mean?
So,
at the end of the day,
but it's going to be funny.
I remember a driver
picked me up one time, right?
And he picked me up
and I went down to hell.
He was like,
yo,
you know,
Lauryn Hill lives right here and Redman lives right here. You know like, yo, you know Lauren Hill lives right here
and Redman lives right here.
You know what I told that nigga?
I said, turn the fuck back around.
And he said, what?
I said, drop me the fuck back off.
I ain't going to be the next nigga
you tell who ain't living.
Hell no.
So, yeah.
Hell no.
Drop me the fuck off, my brother.
I'm not going to jump down the line
and say you're a nigga.
And I knew Lauren had lived down there
when I lived in Jersey.
Lauren had lived to the left of me and Redman had lived to the right of knew Lauren had lived in Jersey. Lauren had lived
to the left of me
and Redman had lived
to the right of me.
But I never really
went to their crib
or whatever.
I knew it,
but I didn't want
to know it.
Their privacy
is their privacy.
And when the driver
said that to me,
he was trying to be cool.
You know,
Lauren lives right here.
You know,
Redman,
I'm just saying,
I'm just saying,
homie,
turn the fuck around.
Yeah, exactly. Turn the fuck around, homie. Drop. Yo, this is Redman. He would have spilled the beans on you. He would have told you next, man. Where you stay at? Yeah, exactly.
Turn the fuck around, homie.
Drop me the fuck off at my gate.
I've had to jump out of plenty shady Ubers.
I pop in, burn, what's up?
Change location, drop in both of us.
Next quarter.
Right on, homie.
I just wanted to come grab a sandwich real quick.
Much love.
And I reorder, and then it's like him.
I cancel.
Reorder, it's him.
Cancel.
I have to call my assistant.
Have that motherfucker give me a lift. I'm not fucking with weirdos. When the old man pulls like, hey, man, cancel. Reorder, it's him, cancel. I have to call my assistant, have that motherfucker
give me a lift.
I'm not fucking with weirdos.
When the old man pulls up,
I'm happy, bro.
I'm like, oh, thank God.
But then they be like,
butternut,
I like your product.
It's fucked up.
Smoking me out, man.
It's fucked up.
That was hot.
Do you enjoy fame?
Man, you know,
I do and I don't.
It's cool to be able to preach your beliefs and have people listen.
It's cool to think that I was a little kid that dreamed about everything we're doing right now, and I'm doing it.
But when I take a piss in the bathroom and someone comes and taps my shoulder when I got my shit in my hand,
I want to stab him in his neck.
I don't want to go to jail. And so to the fans out there, when we're using the restroom, just don't touch me, bro, please.
Because I might poke you in your neck, and I'll go to jail, and everything is worthless.
So fame has its perks, and it has its downfalls.
A fan came in while I was taking a shit one time.
Where is he going?
Yeah, it's the worst.
When did he go?
He was taking a shit?
Yeah, where he's going.
He thought it was like a multiple joint,
but it was a one-seater, one-seater show.
And did he leave?
And he opened up.
I was like, oh shit.
Oh, did he open up?
I'm like, oh, what's up, bro?
What are we going to do right here?
That's fucked up.
Yeah, I never.
I can't shit in public restrooms,
but the piss ain't bothering me.
Listen, listen, my nigga.
Listen, my first show.
He about to shit right in this motherfucker. I did it here. Oh, I let it go in here. Listen, listen, my nigga. Listen. My first show. He about to shit right in this motherfucker's face.
I did it here.
Oh, I let it go in here.
I let it go, nigga.
I let it.
Let me tell you something.
I shitted in a strip club in Miami.
Why'd you do that?
That's Herpes Synth Flix 3.
But in my defense, I did three and a half years in jail, nigga.
Like, shitting in a strip club is kind of clean in here.
Yeah, I got it.
I never looked at it like that.
You never put it in perspective.
Yeah, I mean, and in jail, like, you know, you learn how to properly code the toilet.
Like, you learn how to, you know, double up on your toilet tissue.
You learn how to, like, your toilet tissue. You learn how
to... You'll sit there and be comfortable
in jail. Like, alright.
Alright.
So,
that's his
Is that what you were saying when Huffington came in?
You were like, alright.
This cushion
is comfortable.
I knew this one
nigga in jail, right?
I knew this one nigga in jail, right?
And he ran, I don't know if I should say his name,
but he ran the whole side of this one part of the jail.
And he would never meet you unless you took a shit with him.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
So, like, if you had to meet with this nigga, like,
you wouldn't go on the side.
Because he knew the CEOs wouldn't film that.
Like, he knew.
But one of your shits wasn't synchronized.
No.
So, you would have to meet with him.
He would be on one side, and you know, in jail, they got the wires.
Or the curtains.
So, you're not actually seeing his face.
So, you're sitting there like, yo, boom see me like yo boom. He's right here. All right
Yeah, you see sitting there like you look look I'm gonna bring home like like six joints to Billy Wade
Like you know I want Billy Wade
Because this is scary
This is like this is. Because this is scary shit. This is real scary shit.
This is big time.
It's the shit.
Yeah, so you have to.
If you was transporting drugs, you have to tell him.
Because if you don't tell him.
You can't take a shit.
Yeah.
Or you take a shit.
Or you shit.
This is transporting.
You know how many strippers take a shit in the strip club though?
Oh, God.
Damn, I ain't digging real like that.
Dingo Berry's all in your lap, dude.
I didn't even ask you to see.
When I used to be in my pimping days, I'd go in the back to holler at the bitches in the locker room.
Bitches were taking shits. It was sad.
Wait, wait, what?
Benzino here?
Zeno here? What's up, yo?
Let's go! Benzino here? Zeno here? What's up, yo? What's good? What's good?
God damn it.
God damn it.
God damn it. I was fucking done.
And the cloud of smoke.
It's so smoky back there.
You can't see.
Yeah.
Whoa.
That's it.
Yeah, you can't see nothing back there.
So, can you break down before we get up out here?
Humboldt County.
Yeah.
The most infamous place. When you actually go to Humboldt, Yeah The most infamous place
When you actually go to Humboldt
It's not even like
It's not like
This weed capital
This place
It's like
Underground
It's underground
But it's not
Because all the towns
Are funded by that
So it's like
The restaurants survive
On the weed business
The
You know
Every business in there
Was started
Preschools were created For the kids Or the people Growing herb in there was started, preschools were created
for the kids
or the people
growing herb in there
and shit like that.
Is it an agriculture area?
That's what it is?
It's one of the best
grow climates in the world.
Grow some of the best
herb in the world
but it's underground
in the sense that,
yeah,
you ain't just
going to see shit.
You got to drive up
crazy mountains
and whatnot
to get to where you're going.
What is it called?
The four corners
or the four?
Emerald Triangle.
Emerald Triangle.
What is that? It's the area or four? Emerald Triangle. Emerald Triangle. Yeah. And what is that?
It's just that it's the area
that is where everyone's growing at.
It's Mendocino and Humboldt
and all that stuff right there.
Yeah.
Is Cookies grown there?
Yeah.
Okay.
I got a really nice farm over there right now.
Okay.
This shit looks great.
Okay.
This shit's fire.
It's fire.
But let me tell you what's cool about this, and this is a good thing to get into real quick.
A lot of the small craft growers were put out of business in Humboldt because the big boys came and bought huge fields.
Like Marlboro and shit like that, right?
And, you know, being a real grower, you can't put cash in the bank, right?
So you can't put cash in the bank, right? So you can't put cash
in the bank.
So there's these rules
that come out.
You got to buy this property.
You got to do this.
You got to pay for this license.
A lot of them couldn't
really get those payments made.
They can't just go pay in cash.
So the big boys
came and did that.
But point being is
Cookies did a lot
of contract grows
with the growers
that have the small
boutique craft farms
to keep them in business.
We're going to buy
the herb back.
We're going to give them
shit that's relevant like Gary, London. Have them grow in business. We're going to buy their herb back. We're going to give them shit that's relevant,
like Gary, London,
have them grow on shit that will sell through
and, you know, not waste their time.
So we're keeping people in business
at the same time, too.
So London Pound Cake,
that's your strand as well?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, you can have the rest of this right here.
Okay, I'll definitely take it.
Yeah.
I'll definitely take it.
And I know you're a blunt guy,
but we're going to get you on some of this. We're going to fuck with the vibes because we fuck with you, man. guy But we gonna get you
We gonna fuck with the vibes
Cause we fuck with you man
And we wanna get you
Like again
We wanna say
How much we appreciate you
How much you give into the culture
And
You're rich enough
That you could've walked away
From hip hop forever
And if I was probably you
I probably would've
I'm a foul nigga
I'm a different nigga
Man I love that shit
That's how much he loves the culture
But you stay in the culture And I respect that Yeah, I love that shit. That's how much he loves the culture. But you stay in the culture, and I respect that.
Yeah, man, I love that shit, bro.
And you're constantly working.
Every time I've seen you, you've been working.
Yeah.
It's not one time I've seen you anywhere, and you've not been working.
Man, I'm about to go next door and work right now all night.
God damn, let's make some noise for that.
God damn.
So we're going to end it on that note.
Let's take a drop.
Excuse me, take a picture and do a drop, and we good. And you know, a couple of people want to end it on that note. Let's take a drop. Excuse me. Take a picture and do a drop and we good.
And you know a couple of people want to take a picture with you.
Take one for Boris.
First birthday.
Ah, I ain't going to laugh in a minute, y'all.
I want to talk to y'all yandex.
Have fun with it.
Let's go.
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