Drink Champs - Episode 171 w/ Berner

Episode Date: August 23, 2019

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On this episode the *cough, cough, cough* Smoke Champs sit down and burn up with Berner! Listen as he talks about his hempire, giving us gems about how he gr...ew his Cookies brand. Berner also shares the story of how he fell in love with cannabis, the power of being an independent artist and releasing over 30 albums. Berner also shares stories of working with the legend Cam'ron, along with Wiz Khalifa and Drink Champs alumni, Curren$y. Berner also gets personal and shares his trap stories and much much more!DRINK CHAMPS EXCLUSIVE - In this episode listen to "ENERGY" the new song by N.O.R.E. (produced by Hazardis Soundz)BlueChew: Get your first shipment free at BlueChew.com, promo code CHAMPS. Just pay $5 shipping!Bombas: Get 20% off your first purchase at Bombas.com/DrinkChamps.Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:20 $2 million condo. Made back for hardo. Did it myself, but had a sense like Rondo. New Yorkers. British knights and British walkers. Hugging the block like it's a bunch of stalkers I used to cook with the work, fuck it up and blame it on the club He was Dominican, he thought I was, he showed me love But niggas choke under pressure, God Invited choke and he folded under pressure, God
Starting point is 00:03:39 If you the homie, you can rely on me I won't let a human being come and lie on me So never tell me what I did and we didn't do. Drink, tap the streets. Niggas, we ain't political. I'm still happy to be here. It's still relevant. It's evident.
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Starting point is 00:04:08 I remember I bought bullets from jungle Same night I got banned from the tunnel But I don't like to talk about my past life Cause my new life, new ice is too nice Now I've interviewed millions in a week Since it dropped me and Fox ain't speak I say that with love like a sister I say that with love because I miss her
Starting point is 00:04:27 And me and Phone still talk about the war report And still getting money just off the war report Nicki went to Joe, we laugh and respected that Queens get the money, that's first, never neglected that Fat Joe squashed it with Jay, see I connected that Both sides have respect for the God and I accepted that These bars gonna hit em like a Mickey This reached out to be thinkin' top 50 I'm on that energy, God and I accepted that. These bars gonna hit them like a Mickey. Let's reach out to rethink your top 50.
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Starting point is 00:05:05 What a good beat Hopefully this is what it's to be This is your boy N-A-O-N-A-N What up it's DJ EFN in English And this is military Crazy raw Motherfucking
Starting point is 00:05:18 Uh uh uh uh Dream champ Why are you taking this backwards? I like that I like that Motherfucking podcast Make some noise! Now, when you're talking about Cannabis King,
Starting point is 00:05:32 when you're talking about our entrepreneurial, when you're talking about our original staple of the cannabis game, there's no better person than our guest today. He's got 16 albums. He's a part of everything that cannabis has to do. He dresses in his own goddamn clothes. Goddamn it, me too.
Starting point is 00:05:52 He's out here. He got a whole album with Cam'ron. I can't even get him featured with Cam'ron. I can't even get him on the phone. This man got a whole album with Cam'ron. He out here with a whole album with B-Real. This guy's out here giving to the culture, shining with the phone. This man got a whole album with Cam'ron. He out here with a whole album with B-Real. This guy's out here giving to the culture,
Starting point is 00:06:07 shining with the culture. He's doing what he gotta do. In case you don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about big. Burner, make some noise! That's right. Now, Burner,
Starting point is 00:06:18 you are hands down one of the, when anybody thinks of cannabis and the legalization of cannabis, not just cannabis because the legalization of it, cookies come up. So I want to ask, I want to get straight to it, because are you the inventor of cookies? Yeah, you know, at the end of the day, my partner, Jai, shout out to Jigga, was from my neighborhood. And, you know, look, he was bringing the bags and I was moving them. I was doing my thing.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was the brander, the creator, the hype, hype the machine the engine behind getting it where it needed to be and i was rapping at the time too so i just happened to get it cracking so you know my boy breeze he bred everything he bred the girl scout cookies he bred the gelato the sunset shirt you know a lot of things you see in the world today right you know about the bud yeah the bud he bred it but you know i had to do the pipe up on it the branding the name in the world today right you know about the bud yeah the bud he bred it but you know i had to do the pipe up on it the branding the name the name the strains i take care of the packaging the marketing the business behind it i'm actually the business behind cookies you know i mean so it is kind of good i'm glad you asked a lot of people think i created it
Starting point is 00:07:17 you know i didn't physically create cookies i just put that motherfucker on the map you got it cracking and built the brand around it. You know what I mean? Probably one of the first cannabis brands with an identity, a colorway, a logo, and a full brand behind it. Shit, you got a clothing line that's popular. Yeah, the clothing line itself is fucking doing numbers. And so you started out in San Francisco? Bay Area, San Francisco, yeah. Okay, and you spent time in Arizona at one point.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, my dad said he was going to open up a Mexican restaurant in Arizona. We moved out there. He got caught cheating and he never came out. You know Pops? He did his thing. I was back and forth. I'd get in trouble in Arizona. I'd go back to the Bay. I'd get in trouble in the Bay. Go back to Arizona. Ended up in the Bay.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So how did you develop your love? Because I imagine coming up it wasn't always legal. I'm going to give you the real story. This is drink chance. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You know what I mean? A.K.A. smoke chance. Let's go, let's go. Today is smoke chance. You know what I mean? Hey, Gary Payton, thank you, because you're going to
Starting point is 00:08:16 have us loaded in a little bit. Yes, sir. But look, I found my love for the plant when I went back. So when I was in Arizona, my homies, big brothers,
Starting point is 00:08:23 had big old bales full of weed. I'm talking about vet rooms. Do they have good weed in Arizona? homies big brothers had big old bales full of weed I'm talking about that. Good weed Arizona's Arizona's trash look like they weed is look we gonna get to us Okay, they had bales like big bales bedrooms closets houses for this shit We go in there as little kids and take out fucking handfuls and eat it and roll it up and Walgreens receipts and smoking and not know what to do with it was playing with it was watching Friday Having fun with the weed and when I went back to California... And this is grow houses?
Starting point is 00:08:47 No, this is just bales of Mexican weed. You're holding the shit. Yeah, they was moving big weight. When I went back to California, I told all my homies, older brothers that was in the business at the time. I was like fifth, sixth grade, bro. I was like, look, out in Arizona,
Starting point is 00:09:01 they got bales and they're like, nah, bro. You know how much this shit costs? And they showed me bomb. We used to call, nah, bro, you know how much this shit costs? And they showed me Bomb. We used to call it Drow. Bomb. $20 a gram. And I was just blown away because it beat everything I've ever seen in Arizona. So when I fell in love with cannabis is when I took that first flight from California to AZ.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I took an OG long sock, cut a hole in that bitch, put it in my pants, let it hang down my pants. I brought two zips. And when I showed up to Arizona with that thang, I realized the impact that good weed has. The conversation that starts and just how powerful it is having something that no one else can get. That's when I fell in love with the weed. You know, the crazy shit about that is, like, I come from, I'm from Lefrak City, Queens, and for a long time, we never had good weed.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So when we had good weed We would roll skinny blunts And it was crazy Because anytime I Like meet somebody From San Francisco Or meet somebody From California You liked our
Starting point is 00:09:53 Crippy down here Yeah but this Yeah this is Less laid on But the crazy thing is I will always know When a person Come from good weed
Starting point is 00:10:00 Because they will Always have the Fattest blunts And San Francisco Like you guys Are so spoiled out there because you guys never had bad weed.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Like, I don't remember ever going to San Francisco and having bad weed. Dude, I would walk down the streets as a kid, as a real young kid
Starting point is 00:10:12 and people would just be putting nugs on their forehead and they'd be like, buds, buds, buds. And it would stick to their forehead
Starting point is 00:10:18 and I just fell in love with the culture and man, that shit's been so good for so many years. So, you know, I had to get in, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I had to. in bro i had to all right once i seen the arizona action and just really understanding and also doing music i'll pull up in you know when i first started pull around some big artists they got big whips big chains multi-platinum records but you ain't got this right you do not have this i got it right god damn you gotta know me god damn it i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you a little nothing so you gotta call me you gotta be my friend by the money you gotta hit me up there's no now we're together we're united through the plan so you're smoking tobacco now i'm a roll it's a nice gary a nice good chunk out the vibe out the vibe gary payton now okay so how did let's let's get into that uh because that's the new weed that's uh that's
Starting point is 00:11:04 coming up that's actually gary payton though dude the new weed that's coming up. That's actually Gary Payton, though. Dude, the randomest shit happened, bro. Shout out to Gary Payton. When you plant seeds, you number them. Seed 1 through 300 or 1 through 20, 1 through 80. Well, we did about, I think only like 15 strains, 15 seeds on this phenol hunt. And the number 20 was just popping. And my boy powers up naturally
Starting point is 00:11:27 just started calling it that gp that payton well his sons follow me i guess and so just in the few times that we mentioned it online some people in oakland started bootlegging it okay burns about to pop off to gary payton they made fake baggies and everything so his sons hit him i believe and then told him there's bags floating around he thought we were the ones putting out the fake bags. And so when I got with him, he hit me and threw some mutual friends, powerful people, may I say. And we sat down for lunch in Oakland. He pulled up in the white Range Rover, bolo, hopped out like a gangster. And I think he thought I was on some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And when I broke it down to him, I'm like, nah, I would never put out a bag that looks like that. But I do have this strain. I showed it to him him, I'm like, nah, I would never put out a bag that looks like that. But I do have this strain. I showed it to him at lunch. Busted out the whole restaurant smell. I said, look, we could do this. And I think it'd be cool because he don't smoke weed, but he's the Hall of Famer. He's the glove. He's the man.
Starting point is 00:12:17 His attitude is everything. I said, look, I want to put you in a bag like a Wheaties box. I want to be the first person to do that shit. And I want to do it legitimately. Can you do that? He said, I'm already in the Hall of Fame. They can't take shit from me, baby boy. Let's do it. And so out of nowhere, Gabe Payton has the best weed in the market right now.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Wow. You know what I mean? But it happened organically. Everyone hits me to do strains. Let's do this. Let's do a strain. I know you want a strain. I want a platinum record.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I don't got one. It is right there. So, you know, at the end of the day, I just like to do shit with people that comes organic and natural. You know what I mean? That's a dope story. Let's make some noise for that.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Let me see the back of that. Let's just go. It's cool, man. And bust that bitch open and smell that motherfucking butt. I thought he smoked. That's why I thought it came together. That's a dope story.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Nah, he just hit me. He thought I was on some bullshit. Gary's about his shit, bro. He thought I was getting money playing him. This reminds me of Cookies, though, a dope story. Nah, he just hit me. He thought I was on some bullshit. Gary's about his shit, bro. He thought I was getting money playing him. This reminds me of Cookies, though, a little bit. It's fucking powerful shit. This one joint, anyone around us that's going to get it, they're going to hit this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:13:14 and it's going to change a little bit, for sure. It's got a little more funk to it. I like the smell. Remember, it's got to it. You're going to smoke some weed today. I got a chance. I got smoke champs. Don't smoke it. Maybe one hit for the burn.
Starting point is 00:13:30 One hit. I don't drink. I'm going to have a little something here on drink champs. So what are you doing right now? Are you in Miami? I'm in Miami. I did a music video, and I'm in the studio next door, which is currently like the craziest hot box ever. I'm loaded right now.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'm just going to keep 1,000. If I st'm loaded right now, I'm just gonna keep 1,000. If I stutter on my words, I'm high as a motherfucker. That's all good, brother, that's all good. Happens all the time. I'm out here, I'm shooting a video and recording some music, catching some vibes real quick. You got a new record with Fat Joe, right? Man, you know about that.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, I'm on point, I'm on point. Yeah, nah, yes, De La Ghetto and Fat Joe. Oh, okay, shit, I got a record with De La Ghetto, don't I? Yeah. All right, cool. You got somebody else? I'm mad high, man. I'll be forgetting, nigga. Shit's dope.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, I'm doing a new album called La Plaza. It's like, I don't speak Spanish, but you know, look, I'm Mexican and Italian. Right. You know, and I just want to embrace the Latin side of me. And we're doing a little crossover where I do English, they do Latin. And it's dope because it's over random records. Like, the beat we flipped for that record, I'm not going to say it because they're going to sue me right away,
Starting point is 00:14:28 but it's just a different vibe. It's not your typical shit, you know what I mean? So I'm having fun with it, bro. Yeah, having a lot of fun. You want some champagne, my brother? Because I don't know if you know, but on Drink Chaps, we celebrate our artists, man, because so many people want to kick us out this game
Starting point is 00:14:44 and tell us that we got limited limited time you go out here with 16 hours 35 you got 35 and this is gonna be number 36 yeah shut up in the game 20 years they got more hours to be it's the Bay Area and it's therapy bro. The Wii game is stressful bro. It makes you want to just... Now how'd you hook up with Wiz Khalifa? Wiz came by the club I was running when I was like, I forgot how old I was, but it
Starting point is 00:15:14 was when I was on Geary. So I had before Cookies was Cookies. He came by, I was running the store. I was the buyer, the manager at the canvas club. He came by, we got high, it was cool as fuck. Right. Yeah. So I knew it. And then was by. We got high. He was cool as fuck. All right. Yeah. Salute. And then was he Wiz at that time?
Starting point is 00:15:28 He was Wiz, yeah. He was Wiz? It was right before Black and Yellow, I think. Yeah. Yep. So you were signed to Telegame at one point. Yeah. You know, we're still doing business.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And you know, the thing about me, bro, I just move so fast, bro. I like to just move at my own pace. And I think it's a little overwhelming sometimes because a lot of these albums could have been a lot bigger and marketed a lot more like the Cameron album. Not a lot of people know about it because I just dropped it. You know what I mean? Me and Currency just dropped the album. Boom. I dropped so much shit because I just moved quick. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Life short. You had to give Cameron at least $150, right? You had to, right? Nah, man. camera's a real motherfucker bro because i know that motherfucker that dude don't do nothing man i'm gonna tell you like this for whatever reason well shout out to british first of all okay me and british are close his manager and i think he respected the grind and there was some business involved but it wasn't like that okay okay it was it was some respectable business and cam let me tell you a story about cam bro i uh reached out to him to get on uh me and young dolphins album
Starting point is 00:16:31 i think it was me and young dogs album then you got a dog too yeah and so cameron is such a gentleman he was in l.a i told him i want you to come get on the record it's cool i'm gonna drive where you at i'm like i'm in the bay i going to drive over there and knock it out. I'm like, from LA? He's lost. He's not coming over here. Cameron drove from LA to the Bay. Now, mind you, he only thought it was two hours away. But he drove six.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Six, right? And he knocked the verse out in my house and fucking got on the plane to Vegas. A half hour later, I'm like, dude, you're a fucking G. I personally would have been like, oh, word this four more hours? Burn it. I love you, little bro. I'm going to send it when I can. He's a gentleman, man.
Starting point is 00:17:09 He wouldn't knock that shit out for me real quick, bro. Let's make some noise for the camera. He'll never be on Drink Champs. I don't know why. I don't know why. I think it might happen one day. No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:17:23 He might do it. He's probably scared of that tiger shit. Oh, no. We got a tiger. We scared of that tiger shit. We beat that shit yesterday. Man, that was the funny shit yesterday. Kiss him in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Ah, man. We tell you later. We tell you later. So, Cookies Melrose. Yeah. Right? That seems like that's the most one that's lit. Is that the most popping right now?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Right now it is, man. Melrose is going crazy. And it's downtown. It's right there one that's lit. Is that the most popping right now? Right now it is, man. Melrose is going crazy. And it's downtown. It's right there. It's in Beverly Hills almost. It's in L.A. by Hollywood and Beverly Hills, but we weren't supposed to be there. Oh, wow. Meaning like the neighbors, I don't think, ever expected a canvas club to be there.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Wow. I think the store next door has something to do with J-Lo. Maybe she shops there. She's a part owner, but the cheapest dress is like 20 grand. So we weren't supposed to be there. But we lucked out and got it. And we got that block popping. Popping.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Trappling that motherfucker, bro. For real. If you had to pick cannabis or music, what would you pick? I have to go with that weed, brother. He didn't really hesitate on that. Because you know what? I can just rap in my head while I smoke. It don't got to come out.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I like to rap as a hobby. That's the cool thing about my music career too, bro. I don't got no pressure. I've been independent this whole time. I put out what I want, when I want, how I want. I'm not trying to appeal to no crowd. I'm not trying to get on no radio. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I do it because I love to do it. That's the best way to do it. And you partners with Ghazi? Yeah, I've been on Empire since 2007. Wow. Yeah. And they in the Bay Area as well, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah, Frisco. Okay. I was probably one of his first clients. I was on, what was that shit called before? Ingrooves, I think. Oh, what? He was Ingrooves? He was working at Ingrooves.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And he called me one day, like, yo, I took your whole catalog over. We're going to be good. And I'm like, oh, shit. All right, I think. Oh, word? He was Ingrooves before? He was working out at Ingrooves, and he called me one day, like, yo, I took your whole catalog over. It's going to be good. And I'm like, oh, shit. All right, for sure. I mean, cool. But it worked out great. Great fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So great guy, man. Big up Ghazi, man. Empire. Man, you got to drink a little bit, bro. This is champagne, man. Come on. We'll do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's the old school. It's the old school. It's the old school. We celebrating you, man. We are celebrating you today, man. We're going to tie you both up. Salute, yeah. Oh, man. I don't know if I can do that, man. We are celebrating you today, man. We're into the Tiger Bowl. Yeah. I don't know if I can do that, man.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I popped a Zanning, man. I might not make it if I drink the Taz. You guys are killing me in the morning. Everybody here is cannabis guys. They come here to show you love because you are truly a cannabis king. And we want to give you your flowers while you alive. We don't want something to happen to you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:40 You say, yo, Burn is a great guy. And every time I say it, it's your face, my brother. Man. This is why we good This is why our culture Has to start doing this We have to start Bigging each other up Because if we ain't
Starting point is 00:19:49 Going to do it Nobody going to do it We are the new FUBU We are fuck you And blah oh you God damn it You know what I mean It's important to do that too
Starting point is 00:20:01 Because you know This lifestyle Will take a lot of years Off your life man Right You know look We risk ourself when we go out in public. We risk ourself every time we travel away from home. This shit takes years off your life, bro, doing this shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:13 So it's good to get recognized while you're here. So I salute you for that. How's your Amsterdam? What's your relationship with Amsterdam? I've been going there since I was 18. Oh, okay. Many years. So when I buy cookies in Amsterdam,
Starting point is 00:20:26 is that real cookies or that's bootleg? No, here's the truth. Motherfuckers are so obsessed with this shit, bro. They fly to LA or wherever they get it and they fucking fly it back and they sell that shit for $70 a gram, bro. Yes, yes. It's very true. Cali weed in Amsterdam is like the
Starting point is 00:20:41 most expensive. So have you ever been to gray area? Of course. Gray area, amnesia, you know, greenhouse. I don't know if you know, gray area is the only real place that you can really get California weed. Like they got a whole secret menu of California weed. A lot of places actually do now because it's the hype. Same with Spain. You go to Spain, the social clubs in Spain got California weed all through it too.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I'd be scared to go there. I think, you know, Fez might think it's me doing it. I'm not that dumb. It's not me. It's a legal store. They buy it and do what they want to do. That's not up to us. No, but they have a lot of y'all strands.
Starting point is 00:21:11 That's crazy. I always thought... You know what, though? That's the best feeling because I went to AmSan when I was 18 trying to meet up with these store owners and get cool with them and try to figure out
Starting point is 00:21:19 how to get in the business. Now I'm in the business. You ever went into the Spencer's and saw a fake version of your shit? Every day. I got to describe this to me though, please, come on. Well, I look at it differently because I see bootleg cookies everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:35 But the way I look at it, and no one else feel this way, people get mad, they're my cheerleaders, brother. Because it does two things. One, my brand is everywhere. People see it. Right. And two, they know damn real is not real. They want to find the real. So if they get the bootleg shit, they're going to be like, yeah, I wonder if it's real. And it leaves that thought in their mind.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Right. And then they're going to come to my store eventually. You know what I mean? Okay, but break it down. What is that? Clone? No, so like, what is the butt in there? So if a person, like, so like, what is the butt in there? Yeah, like, so like, so,
Starting point is 00:22:05 alright, so if a person, like you have cookies, right? So if a person goes and tries to make fake cookies,
Starting point is 00:22:10 how do they do that? Like, what is the steps? Well, back in the day,
Starting point is 00:22:13 obviously they don't know your chemistry. They try to emulate you. Well, this is the way it works.
Starting point is 00:22:16 This is the way it works. In the grower community, you get in the grower house, you get to
Starting point is 00:22:20 grow wheat, that's paid money. Can they just clone it out right? Yeah, this is what
Starting point is 00:22:24 you got to do. Let's say Nori's in the grower right now. He's got a job as a grower. He's hyped up. He's is good. Can I just clone it out right? That shit tastes good. Yeah, this is what you got to do. Let's say Nori's in a grow right now. He's got a job as a grower. He's hyped up. He's feeling himself. He's getting paid, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:30 17 an hour, whatever it may be. He sees a plant that says gelato or cookies. All you got to do is take a little pair of scissors, cut a leaf, put in a little wet towel around it,
Starting point is 00:22:39 bring it home, put some rooting gel in it, plant that bitch and you're good to go. Rooting gel, what'd you say? Yeah, a little gel. It's like a little gel you put on a clone before you plant it wow but point being
Starting point is 00:22:49 is this miracle girl no not miracle girl yeah yeah something like that yeah i'm saying yeah so basically it's pretty easy to steal genetics and and part of the problem in the wii game is everyone is stealing stealing and selling genetics when cookies first came out on the internet and all the forums they were selling cookie clones for $10,000, $15,000. So people got the shit, and they spread it around. And look, we're all homies. We all share a bud.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You don't think if we're all growers, we wouldn't share clones? The shit gets out there like wildfire. You know, once it gets out, it's out. It's like a leaked record. So now, do you patent the name? So now, could you sue if you wanted to? I'm not saying you would.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Since it's still federally illegal, it's federally illegal so you can't do shit so what i did i tattooed that bitch on my hands and i built my audience as big as i couldn't if someone's on some bullshit i'll say they got bullshit and i've had to use my my color way my brand but really my voice and my social media to call them out that's the only protection i got is my platform which is why you see my instagram get deleted all the time all right motherfuckers hate on me bro now would you consider your competition like jungle boys and That's the only protection I got is my platform, which is why you see my Instagram get deleted all the time. All right. Motherfuckers hate on me, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Now, would you consider your competition like Jungle Boys and what's the other dudes, the nugs, what's the other dude, Diego? Runts. Runts? No, Runts is my partners. Oh, okay. Yeah, Runts is actually part of Cookies. Cookies partnered with Runts. We're 50-50 partners.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But how about Jungle Boys? Jungle Boys, you know, look, man, let me take a sip real quick. Okay, yeah, please. Please, please, please. I'm taking a sip. I got a lot of love for Jungle Boys. I worked with them for a while. We had a brand called Exotics.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I never said this shit on the internet. I've been wanting to say this shit for a long time. Maybe I'm just, it's the mode. This is where you talk. You're like a therapist. You're a counselor. I am. I am, yes. I think they got a little upset when we opened up in L.A.,
Starting point is 00:24:29 which is truth be told. Oh, because you guys were supposed to have San Fran and the Bay Area, the Yadda Dameen area. It's never been the same since Yadda Dye Boo Boo pulled up to L.A.
Starting point is 00:24:38 When I pulled up, it was a problem, man. I got love for you, Ivan. If you watch this, it's a pretty big show. I love you, brother. I don't know what the problem is, but look, there's enough money for everyone.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Your menu's incredible. You grow great weed. Okay. It's totally different than ours. All right. Don't trip, homie. Goddamn, man. Let's be peace.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Peace, man. Come on. Peace to the Middle East, man. You heard everything I said. It's positive. I love the dude. He grows great weed, but I think that he probably thought that it was a little... Like stepping on his toes?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah. Like territorial. Yeah. Why? Is Jungle Boys around that area of Melrose? No. He just saying, LA period. Oh, LA period.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. They want the whole city. Well, you know, Maywood's close to them. I ain't going to lie. The first store we opened up was like eight minutes away. It's a little fucked up. I'm sorry. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That's the way it worked, though. And I always wanted to do collabs and keep it cool because I love dude. That's my boy. We had business together. We broke real bread together. But the cannabis game is funny. So what can you do about it? How about the Green Door in the Bay Area?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Shout out to Green Door. They're cool. David Kang and them, the owners. Shout out to them. Great people. Great people always support us. Our product's in their store now. It's always going to be in their stores.
Starting point is 00:25:47 We actually got a couple projects together, too. All right. Yeah. That's dope, man. I love San Francisco. Make some noise for San Francisco, man. What's the heat? Is there any...
Starting point is 00:25:58 So imagine in hip-hop, there's already the hip-hop police type shit. Is there any extra heat because of what you're doing? Of course. Cannabis police? You know, look, your banks. I mean, cannabis slash hip hop. No, I mean, these are the things that happen. Your banks get shut down.
Starting point is 00:26:09 You can't bank your bread. I was kicked out of a few banks recently. City National, which is made for artists and athletes. I love that fucking bank. They kicked me out for no reason. What did they do? None of my money was from weed. It was all from my music and my clothing.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Wow. And they said, because of what you represent and what you affiliate yourself with, we don't want you here. I'm like, fucking kidding me? I had meals in there, bro. I was about to say, they give you your money back? How does that work? Yeah, but they were dicks about it. When the other bank tried to shut me down,
Starting point is 00:26:38 like, yo, just come pick up your check and whatever. They were like, yo, you got to come get this today. Come get your check today. I mean, I felt like if I didn't go get it today, it was a wrap. You got a brother smoking? Please don't be shy. Don't be shy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:53 That's crazy. You know, at the end of the day, like, is there hip hop cops in the weed game? I'm sure. But I don't do dumb shit no more. You know, every entourage of every group is like, what up? I need a hundred bags. I'm like, I'm sure you do, brother. I'm sure you do. But guess what? I'm older. I need 100 bags. I'm like, I'm sure you do, brother. I'm sure you do.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But guess what? I'm older, I'm colder, and I'm trying to get to a B. Straight up. I'm trying to break a billy off this shit, bro, because I put in 18 years straight. Right. You know what I mean? So you're saying that people that come to you and ask for side deals. Everybody wants a side deal.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But not legally. They want to buy 100 pounds. Of course not. They're from Marcus and they ain't legal yet or whatever. Fly to New York, man. I'm like, come on, man. You know I ain't going to do that shit. I got a real business.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I can't jeopardize that shit, bro. You're on your Kennedy shit right now. Yeah, bro. It's like either I'm going to make it or I'm not. I'm at that age and at that stage in my career where, you know, look, either it's going to pop or flop. And I can't go bust a pack to make somebody happy. I already been through all that. I've been through all that stress before I ain't doing that again
Starting point is 00:27:46 yeah I worked too hard to get out of that so you was a part of the legal side of it as well as everyone was 215 was a very great mark a very great proposition back in the day so cannabis the medical side of campus was a very gray area and living in San Francisco California one of the most liberal cities in the world right how could you not be involved? You know what I mean? That's how I grew up. It's a slap on the wrist, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Right. Yeah. That's a motherfucking shit. God damn. Make it up. So, what's San Francisco? Is it like, every time I go out there, it's always like
Starting point is 00:28:26 the bum population is like... There's a big bum population. Yes. It's fucked up. Could we do like a cannabis for bums? Like, you know what I'm saying? We have homeless people
Starting point is 00:28:36 making a fuck up. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oh, that's bad? Bums is bad? I'm sorry, I didn't know. I didn't know. What do you do
Starting point is 00:28:45 To help that There's a couple things You could do I mean And there's young Brothers homeless out there Man but you know A lot of it's by choice man
Starting point is 00:28:52 Like if you A lot of people Move to San Francisco Because it's a hippie state And they want to Hippie city They want to come do drugs And party
Starting point is 00:28:59 And they accept it And not everyone There's people That have been putting out You know what I mean And that are legitimately Struggling and hurting But you know They're not gonna be the ones on the street fucked up drinking doing drugs they're gonna be the ones waiting in line for the shelters
Starting point is 00:29:11 and trying to find a way to get home and whatnot so you know for compassion at the old club i used to work at we give away the trim so we trim the bud our little sugar leaves it still get you high if you smoke it it's better than nothing and we give away that and the smaller buds as compassionate people that had low income or veterans or whatnot. But now with the new regulations, you can't give away anything for free anymore. Of course not. Big Brother wants his pay. So we're trying to figure out ways to do it. I mean, I think you could probably charge them a very low cost.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But again, the tax is so high to grow weed now that it's all legitimate and organized, I don't think we can afford to grow it and give it away until we blow up, blow up. You know what I mean? Now, with the laws, is there a difference? In San Fran, do you have to grow the weed in San Fran to sell it there?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Nah, not necessarily. Like you're saying, county for county? Yeah. It's a state thing. I can grow weed in LA and legally transport it down to SF. I can grow bud in SF and bring it down to L.A. legally. The licensing, it goes across the state. It's a state, yeah. What do you think is better, SF or L.A.? Well, L.A. got more property.
Starting point is 00:30:17 SF is small. It's a small city. What do you mean property? Like it's just bigger. I'm talking about bud-wise. Oh, bud-wise? Yeah. Eh. You think L.A. wins? I mean, bro, the Bay Area. property like it's just bigger yeah yeah i mean bro the bay area baby come on yeah i'm gonna tell you why though because the weather there is hella cool it's like the neighborhood i grew up in where
Starting point is 00:30:36 you grow weed at it's like 67 degrees 57 degrees that allows the weed to turn purple and get this nice color and when you cure it there's no no humidity, so it's going to dry right. That's that weed you can just pick up and just let it hang from your thumb and fucking shake your hand and it ain't coming off. So I grew up on Frisco weed. I may be biased. L.A. grows great weed because we grow weed in L.A. too. But weather conditions, it ain't getting 90 degrees in the Bay. L.A. gets hot.
Starting point is 00:31:03 The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the united states recipients have done the improbable showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves this medal is for the men who went down that day it's for the families of those who didn't make it i'm'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal,
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Starting point is 00:32:14 show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams,
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Starting point is 00:34:08 Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects throughout your body. Not just your gut, but your mental health, your metabolism, your immunity, your risk of cancer, heart disease, almost any disease under the sun. Yep, you heard right. Probiotics might actually impact everything from your brain to your heart. So what's science and what's just really good marketing? On this episode of Dope Labs, me and Zakiya cut through the hype and get into the real deal behind probiotics with help from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. So yes, bacteria is definitely having a moment and I'm very excited about that.
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Starting point is 00:35:01 where we break it all down into the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'll go with that bag. When I hit a corner, that's what they call it. They call it hit a corner. Yeah, hit a corner. Hit a corner, that shit be cold out there in the bag.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I love it. But now, is there such thing as like clipping too early? Like I remember like I remember, like, it would be weed growers that they would have to, like, sell it, and I could tell it was premature. Was I bugging,
Starting point is 00:35:32 or I was on point? You weren't bugging, bro. They clipped that shit early. They probably didn't dry it right. It was probably orange hair and smell like hay, right? Damn, I don't remember that much detail.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I don't remember. Yeah, you can cut it early. You got to figure out your plant and figure out how many days it has to grow. Every plant has a different growth cycle. Oh, so it's not 90 days for all plants? No, hell no. Oh, what? Gary finishes before London Pound Cake.
Starting point is 00:35:55 London Pound Cake finishes later than lemonade. That's crazy. Everything is different. You got to learn the plant. It's a real research and development process. Oh, I thought it was all 90 days. Nah, that's why all these rich motherfuckers get in are fucked up. All these rich boys getting in the game thought it was easier fucking finding out the hard way.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's not easy, bro. There's nothing easy about growing wheat. Wow. It's just scientific as a motherfucker. Wow. So roughly how many days, Gary Payton, how many days do you think it is? What is Gary Payton? I think it's 63 flower days, flowers for 63 days.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I got it in my phone, in my notes, because we have so many strains. We have fucking probably 200 strains right now. It's pretty wild. It's crazy. Yeah. You got more beers? Okay, ice, yes, please, man. More, please.
Starting point is 00:36:39 This motherfucking cold is... Damn. So it's less than 90 days. Let me see. Okay, and lemon pound cake. I love lemon pound cake. Didn't you? That's what. Let me see. Okay. And lemon pound cake. I love lemon pound cake. Didn't you... That's what I like of Diego? The lemon pound cake? Remember when you had that?
Starting point is 00:36:51 You had that? You didn't have it from Berner, though. I'm telling you, he bootleg this shit. He got fake bags all over Baba? He bootleg this shit. And what's the other one? That's lemon pound cake. And what's the other one? It's another Gary. Oh, another Gary. I had some other shit, man, but I smoked it today in the studio. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:37:06 No problem, man. I want to find out how long this flower's for. Because I thought all of it was 90 days. I learned something crazy new today. Nah. So, okay. Gary Payton. Oh, I'm on point.
Starting point is 00:37:18 A 63-day flower. Wow. London pound cake, 70-day flower. July, 63-70-day flower. Depends. Oh, wow. Yeah. Have you ever grew something that you didn't like and still sold it?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Of course. That's business. You want to hear some trap stories, bro? Yeah, yeah, yeah, please, please. Look, man, I used to be, I used to have to get it, bro. Like, I had a pack one time that came out seeded. It hermied out a bunch of seeds, but that bitch smelled so good and looked so good.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But if you were to look at the bottom of the bag, there was hella seeds. And I had a plug that was coming through buying 20, 50, 100 all the time. He trust me. He love me. That was my dog. But, you know, I was young, dumb, and I needed some bread. And so when he came to the apartment, I'm like, what can I do? Because I want to sell this 50 pack, but I don't want him to see these seeds.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So I twist my light off in my room, twist my light off in the hallway, had a homie come in and be like, bro, I don't know what to see these c's so i twist my light off in my room twist my light off in the hallway had homie come in black bro i don't know what's going on my power your shit fucked up bro but look check it out i put my cell phone on it real quick you know i think it's before they had a ford light i think i just had my cell phone on it and it smoked and it smelled great and he was like oh that's that shit i'm like bro that's that shit bro and he's like cool and he grabbed and gave me the money he bounced and that motherfucker hit me the next day with a picture it was a cup like this with like that many seeds in there caption you fucked me oh i said wow that's terrible don't
Starting point is 00:38:36 trip i'm gonna give you 500 back on each one i made 1500 on each one so i wasn't really worried about it but you know definitely so that's a sign of the weed not being bad as the seeds no so it could seeded a couple different ways it could be next to a plant that herms out and that makes that seed it could be light leak in the room it could be an unstable condition that makes it trip out so seeds always mean it's bad it's not how you harvest it you said that twice hermed out what does that mean it means uh the seeds come out the female what the seeds come out the female. What? The seeds come out, like a female plant produces seeds. Right. Bustin' nuts.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Bustin' nuts. Oh. Yeah. Oh, shit. Her mouth would die. Oh, shit got real. I was bad, Lord. What was that?
Starting point is 00:39:15 If it's with a male plant, it would bust seeds. Yeah, yep. If it's around a light leak or a male plant or the plant's not stable, like if you bred something and it just wasn't stable,
Starting point is 00:39:23 you never got it stable, it'd produce seeds but still be fire. Right. I've had weed with seeds that was hell of fire. Right. Be real.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He's a grower as well, correct? Dr. Green Thumb. Yeah. So, how did y'all connect? He got me, so when I was around 18 or 19,
Starting point is 00:39:39 I seen him at the Rainbow Lounge, which is like a popular bar in LA where you can smoke blood on the patio and eat food. Okay, I've been there. He's the one that set that spot up.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Bro, I didn't know that. So when I was younger, I was trying to link with him. I brought my little mixtape through, and some guy poached me that was around him, tried to get me to sign a 14-album deal with no advance or nothing. Like, oh, I'll fuck with you. But I've been trying to meet B-Real. And one time he reached out to me to get in the smoke box. And when I got in, we caught a good vibe. I I just said let's do an album bro and he's like cool
Starting point is 00:40:07 and he came in and we knocked that shit out in four days and it was classic so you know the vibe was there from the beginning goddamn make some noise B-Real one of the most humble humans in the world bro yes brother is smooth cool player a lot of knowledge he taught me how to tour properly when we went on a tour together. Right. He taught me how to roll. They're veterans.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Cypress veterans. Yeah, bro, veterans, bro. I never toured the way I used to ever again. Now I know how he does it, I do it like that. And you merch all that? Well, I had merch,
Starting point is 00:40:37 but I used to have 13, 14 homies on the bus. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Used to just do stupid things that didn't make sense. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You know, less people, have the barbecue on the bus, you know what I mean? The barbecue on the bus? You know what I mean? Like, used to just do stupid things that didn't make sense. So, you know, less people, have to barbecue on the bus. You know what I mean? Yeah, barbecue on the bus. You know we're having a no-carbecue. No-carbecue? Yeah, we're having a no-carbecue September 7th, just in case y'all don't know. Here in Drinks Champ's office. It's my birthday, September 6th.
Starting point is 00:40:59 So, September 7th. So, there's no carbs at all? There's no carbs. We're going to do some other shit. That's brutal. We're making up some other shit. You know what I'm saying? It's just protein. It's just no carbs at all? There's no carbs. We're going to do some other shit. That's brutal. I'm making up some other shit. You know what I'm saying? Just protein.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yeah, just protein. Keto? You guys going keto? No, it's something like, I just want to do something different, man. Protein and alcohol. I want to do something different, man. And you're going to have alcohol.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You're going to get your sugar through the alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. Man, this is what we do at Drink Champs, man. We celebrate the people, man.
Starting point is 00:41:23 You are one of the people that are hands down a trendsetter. You know what I'm saying? I want to say that. I want to say that to your face because this is dope what you're doing, man. And so many other people are following your footsteps. So if there's a person that's trying to get in the cannabis business, what can you say to them to start them off? The first thing you need to find...
Starting point is 00:41:43 That wants to be burned up. All right, look, if you want to be burned, the first thing you got to do is find yourself a breeder, someone that creates. You want a menu that no one else has. Wait, wait, a breeder. A breeder. Let's slow it down right there. What the fuck is that? A breeder is someone that creates genetics.
Starting point is 00:41:57 They're the ones that take a kush plant, a cookie plant, cross that, and create something brand new. You have to find someone that could design a menu for you. You know how to clone shit, do all that, like splice and all that? Way more complicated than cloning. You have to breed something. You have to take
Starting point is 00:42:11 some pollen from a male, blow it on a female, take the seeds, pop those, find which ones are stable, not a hernia. I ain't gonna front. He said they're like a pimp, though.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You know what I mean? He was like, nigga, the Bay Area is jumping out at you right now. You know? Come on, man. This nigga like, this nigga like, nigga, the Bay Area is jumping out at you right now. You know? Come on, man. The Bay Area, that nigga like,
Starting point is 00:42:26 he's on a little champagne. God damn, get some more champagne. Yo, take a long time, man. Come on, man. What's up? But you need a breeder. Once you find a breeder.
Starting point is 00:42:38 But that can't be easy to find. It's not easy to find. That's why there's not a lot of burns. But if you find a breeder, then you have something when you go to a bigger grow. So you got your breeder. Here's a easy to find. That's why there's not a lot of burns. But if you find a breeder, then you have something when you go to a bigger grow. So you got your breeder. Here's a big ass grow. What are they growing in there?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Probably some bullshit. Right. With a good menu, you can go in and say, hey, why don't you grow this for me? Right. I'm going to buy it back at this price. Run it through a legal distribution. Boom, boom, boom. So first step is a breeder.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Second step is a grower That actually grow I know bullshit grower You need someone That could grow fire Why? Right? Breeder
Starting point is 00:43:11 Grower Identity Create your brand Get your colorway I own this colorway Hell of other brands Try to use this It's my blue
Starting point is 00:43:19 It's my shit Wow They can't It's a wrap This is my cookies This C right here This C is my C What? Breeder There can't be they can't. It's a wrap. This is my cookies. This C right here, this C is my C. What?
Starting point is 00:43:26 Breeder. The champion got a C. Exactly. Right. That logo's forever embedded in people's mind. Right. So you get breeder, grower, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Identity. Right. Right. Distribution. Right. And that's it, bro. Did Champion ever try to come at you about that C or no? Because it looks so different.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Nah, they came at me about something else. Oh, word? Yeah, but they were cool. Shout out to Champion. Look, I've been sued by everybody because I flip a lot of shit. And Champion was actually really cool, bro. Shout out to Champion. They was like, I'm suing you, but nicely.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I called him through a couple mutual friends and they're like, all right, just stop it and tell us how much you sold and we want to see you. I'm like, fuck, really? Cool. Wow, they said stop and we want to see you. And tell them how much you sold. we want to see you. I'm like, fuck, really? Cool. Well, they said stop and we won't see you. And tell them how much you sold. So they wanted the analytics and stats on you. They just wanted to make sure we weren't going crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:11 You know what I mean? But they were the coolest people to ever, you know, go that route. I've been sued by a lot of motherfuckers. Yeah, we got champion shirts right now, man. Big up to Manny for champion. Big up to champion. They're a real player about it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're a real player about it.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're hip-hop. So what's the favorite thing that you like about Cannabis Game, and what's your favorite thing you like about hip-hop? I think the favorite thing about the Cannabis Game is actually being able to be a part of someone's day. So, like, if I sell you a bag at my store, if you go to Cookies and you buy a bag,
Starting point is 00:44:42 you're either going to help, that's going to help you with a hard day. It's going to help you when you're celebrating. You're going to celebrate with my weed. You're going to listen to music. You're going to make it.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You're going to create. It actually affects somebody in their day and what they do and their decisions and their mood and their life. It's more than just selling someone some weed and making some money. They're going to take this weed.
Starting point is 00:44:59 They're going to smell that shit. They're going to share that shit with their friends. They're going to smoke that shit. And whether they're creating, venting, celebrating, chilling, just got done fucking i want to smoke a joint we're a part of someone's day they use this as a part of their day i think that's cool as fuck to me bro right i'm actually creating things that and i seen one of the homies over there pull out
Starting point is 00:45:17 a cookie bag and be like my hell yeah i'm part of his day right he was he put that pack up in the trunk and drove where he was coming he's about to bust it out and smoke it with someone and they're going to have a good laugh. Being a part of someone's day is hard, bro. I like that. That's my favorite part
Starting point is 00:45:30 about the cannabis business. The money, what I've been paid. I'm not worried about none of that shit. So, you know what I mean? So,
Starting point is 00:45:35 this is, this is, this is, this is that time, this is that time, this is that time. So, when we doing
Starting point is 00:45:43 a Cookies Miami? Dude, we're in the process of it right now. We're in the process of getting the license right now. You know we medically out here. I got my medical license. Medical out here. And I think Rex coming soon, everyone knows. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But, you know, just to give you an example on some business shit for the people who are watching. It's $100 million to get a license out here, brother. Get the fuck out of here. Wait, wait. For a dispensary well the way they do is you'll be able to grow have 30 stores and distribution and all that but in order to be one of the guys come on man let me raise that money man that's what's gonna be dope Is when I When I have my stores bro
Starting point is 00:46:26 I embrace everyone So if I'm in LA If you're a fire ass Brand in LA I'm putting you on the shelf If I'm gonna be in Nevada The best growers The cool people
Starting point is 00:46:35 That are really from the culture When I come to Miami Drink Y'all on the shelf So you're saying Cookies the store You have other people Fuck yeah
Starting point is 00:46:42 He just said Smoke Chess will be in the store I thought Cookies the store Is only brands other people who Fuck yeah. He just said it's no chance of being in the store. I thought cookies, the store, is only brands that... No, bro, that would be whack. Oh, I never knew that. Here's the best thing about it, bro. I look at it like this. I'm a fucking pothead.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I like variety. I appreciate herb in general. I'm not one of these weirdos that's like, oh, you can only buy this. Nah, bro. If it's fire, I'm buying it. I want it all. Put it on my shelf. We're going to pop it off. We always switch menus out
Starting point is 00:47:08 so every state we go to, we're going to embrace the hottest brands out there. We got to. Yeah, I say only like 30% of our shelf, 20, 30 is our own shit. I buy everyone's shit
Starting point is 00:47:18 because, bro, I like to try that shit. I like to have it. God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. I did not know that. I always thought, because I believe Jungle Boy.
Starting point is 00:47:29 That's how Jungle Boys do it. I think they just sell their shit. I'm not 100% positive on that. For the most part, they'll buy a couple things. They'll buy a couple things. But when you come into Cookies, it's almost overwhelming. You got a whole shelf full of brands. Like a convenience store.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Yeah, because, bro, I don't want people to have to go anywhere else. Right. You can come and get cookies. You can come and get exclusive stuff to this area. You can come and get the hottest brands around here.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You can try everything, bro. We support people, man. God damn it, man. God damn it. That's some real shit, man. Your motherfucker. Going back to your question about the hip-hop shit, though.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Right. My favorite thing about hip-hop is putting artists on beats that I like. I dead-ass want to be an A&R When I'm all retired and done Because I like looking at artists Let's say Twista And putting them on a beat I want to hear them on
Starting point is 00:48:13 As a fan of music With Cam'ron I pick the beats Stuff I wanted to always hear Cam'ron When I worked with Bone Thugs When I worked with you My favorite part is saying What's the beat going to be? And getting like the record
Starting point is 00:48:27 I do with Fat Joe and De La Geto, it's like a way different vibe. You actually make beats too, or no? No, I just got a good ear. And a sample flipper, so I have my boys
Starting point is 00:48:36 flip samples and whatnot, but I just really know how to pick good beats. Right. I can't make a beat for shit neither, man. Me neither, man. Pick up the hazardous sounds,
Starting point is 00:48:43 SBK and Credible Cuts, Beats in the Hood, and everybody who can make a motherfucking beat. I can't make a beat for the life of me. I don't think I can dance either. So who's your dream producer to work with? I actually was able to do it recently. Okay. DJ Quick. Oh, get out of here. Okay. Quickly to be on this goddamn podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Man, look, Quick came through. He set up everything. He brought out the MPC and made all the hits. He whipped that shit up in front of me. He played some live instruments. He had another guitar player came in. That boy did a clap on the beat like this. You know what I mean? He got some weird machine
Starting point is 00:49:20 I never heard of that was like a little, not machine, a little instrument. a little of no It's quick as a real People make beats and there's the producers. He's so dope bro. That was my dream producer right that All right. What about MCS? What MCS have you not worked with you want to work with? Uh, no, I've been waiting. I've been Man you know what I've worked with so many people. I think right now it would have to be DMX.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'm trying to get all of them right now. I got a record for them. Yeah, you got it. I'm trying to hit them from multiple different people right now. But that's, I mean, fuck, I've been blessed to be able to work with some of my favorites. It's been a good look. DMX, let me tell you something. It's a movie getting a verse from him.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Bro, listen, I'm trying. Listen, listen, listen. I hold that nigga down. Listen, this is crazy. It took me a week to get a verse from him. We was in the hotel in the same, like, next door to each other, my dude. Like, he was in one room, I was in the very next one. And that shit still took me a week.
Starting point is 00:50:24 You know what I already told myself This task will not be easy Oh no it's not easy bro It's not easy But the crazy shit Have you ever met him Nah
Starting point is 00:50:32 Once you meet him Like he's the most Like genuine Down to earth Cool person Even getting him on Drink Champs wasn't easy Yeah I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:50:39 We were hanging with him The whole day Yeah that's true Get him to sit down That's a whole other episode Before the episode happened. But he's truly, he's truly one of a kind.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like, I can tell you one time. Authentic. I can tell you one time it was the MTV Awards and it was the time that he missed the MTV Awards. I don't remember,
Starting point is 00:50:59 you guys remember when he was infamous and he was supposed to have this big performance. And I went to the Wii spot, and this nigga's there. And I'm like, yo, Axe, what the fuck are you doing? Why you not at MTV Awards?
Starting point is 00:51:15 He said, why you ain't at MTV Awards? Nigga, I'm not supposed to be performing. They didn't invite me. And that's how genuine he was. He didn't give a fuck. Like, he just was in the Wii spot. He was supposed to be performing! He didn't invite me! And that's how genuine he was. He didn't give a fuck. He just was in the weed spot. He was chillin'. At the time that he was supposed to be performing,
Starting point is 00:51:30 Def Jam was going crazy. They can't find this nigga. This nigga's with me! In the parlor, my nigga. I'm like, X, you outta control, go! I'm like, go to MTV! X was like, man, fuck that. Find him and Nas.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I want to do something with Nas, too. Nas is also a movie. Trust me, I know. He's also a movie. I've tried, bro. I've been in contact. I've been trying to work my angles. Great guy as well. Nah, he's a savant, man.
Starting point is 00:51:55 He's a legendary dude, bro. And that's the whole thing. I like to work with artists that I grew up listening to and I look up to because that's a goal to me. That's what making music is about. The young, hot, new artists that are new artists are now they don't give a fuck about me they come and go they come and go a lot of them too are on their own agenda they don't really respect you know the legacy yeah the long run bro
Starting point is 00:52:16 yeah so my whole thing is like alright if I'm gonna make it music I tell people I already made it I worked with legends that I grew up to looking up to listening to wishing I could work with them and I worked with them so I got four albums with them like fucking I ain't worried about
Starting point is 00:52:31 no new artists you know who I want to work with what's my nigga that used to do all those records over Weird Al Yankovic yeah Weird Al Yankovic I swear
Starting point is 00:52:40 that's my shit really I'm trying to get Weird Al you gotta get that Weird Al. Man, you gotta go old school tactical to get hold of that boy.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I'm trying to get I can see Weird Al fucking with you. I'm saying I'm looking for Weird Al, man. I'm trying to bring you out of retirement, man. No, he's not retired.
Starting point is 00:52:57 He's still working. He's still working. I've seen a documentary about him. He's still working. He works there. I gotta watch that. Weird Al's that man.
Starting point is 00:53:03 He was that nigga. He flipped Gates of Paradise. He could spit. I ain't gonna lie. Oh, nigga. He's flip gates the power day. He's fit I ain't gonna lie. Oh wow he killed it Sorry cool. I feel like cool. You're a real nigga Shit was hard. Our body. He kills all the shit he does. I always wanted him to flip Superdog. What, what, what, what?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Oh, that would have been so funny. That would be hilarious. You gotta do it, bro. You gotta do it. He don't do it. We do it. It's like a bowl time. It's like a bowl time, man.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Let's put it, bro. For health reasons. For health table. For health reasons. For health reasons. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:52 For health reasons. I'm going to be honest real quick. And don't judge me because it's not a recreational thing. I took Xanax. It's okay. We eat all types of shit. Don't worry about it. Don't lie a little baby one okay okay you don't you That's a very bad city. Nah, man, y'all trying to do me dead. That's too baby, though. That's not much baby in the head, man.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Okay. Nah, I'm going to let you live because it's disgusting. Yeah, okay. Nigga, what the fuck? Nigga, look. I just want to be too fucked up. This is some weird shit. It's actually herbs.
Starting point is 00:54:42 It's actually... We don't know what the fuck this is. We don't know if you know, but in our day and time, No, this is this is actually herbs. This actually yeah But not day and time we need to big up our people why the people is alive So this is what we're gonna kill me right now celebrate We are celebrating you Burn up bucket in the building Salute god damn it. Yeah, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. I don't wanna have trouble. I ain't bad like that.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I just wanna die. I took a second. I'm honest. I see these kids dropping left and right off drugs now, God, I'm sorry. This takes 24 hours. This is actually in the juice bar. This is in the juice bar. I'm touching This is in the juice bar. This is in the style P juice bar. This is in the juice bar. I'm getting it. Read the warning on the label.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Mr. Lee, show them the warning on the label. I can't read Chinese. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. We're gonna make it. Exactly. We are fucked.
Starting point is 00:55:41 So at what point you was like, yo, you know what? I'm gonna make cannabis my life. Like, at what point you was like, yo, you know what? I'm going to make cannabis my life. Like, at what point? Because I'm sure you had to be like everybody else who was just hustling at first and not really realizing that this can change your life forever. Nah, just when I was working at the spot. Oh, when you was on. Yeah, when I was at the spot when I was 18. I was 18 bartending, which I used to drink a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Mm. A lot when I was bartending. Goddamn, we're going to drink a lot for you. Goddamn. And when I was bartending and running a cannabis club, it was a life. I was 18 years old. I sold weed from Monday through Friday. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And then Friday night, I'd go to the bar and bartend. Saturday, I'd go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend. Sunday, I'd go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend. And I was fucking bitches selling weed, having money. It was great. Goddamn. Yeah, I was go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend. Sunday, go to the cannabis club, work all day, go bartend. I was fucking bitches selling weed, having money. It was great. Goddamn. Yeah, I was a bartender. I got more girls bartending than I ever will from rapping.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Bartender. So you were doing that before rapping? I was doing it all at the same time. You know, I'm Mexican, baby. We worked 10 jobs. Goddamn, goddamn, goddamn. Goddamn, goddamn. It's the boys from Mexico.
Starting point is 00:56:48 So you work in there and... Because somebody said this to me the other day. They said weed is the new crack. Damn, that's crazy. But meaning... Hear me out. Is it a good way? Yeah, it's definitely a good way. Meaning like, it's still crackheads that exist, but it's very... Everyone... ever weed is everywhere, right?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yeah, everywhere you go like you mean like an epidemic of crack, but that's what that's what that's what they made We just a new calm. Yeah, I could see that That's a good is it's a really big rush right now and everyone's trying to get in there Okay crash hundreds of millions of dollars, but a lot of these motherfuckers are going to fail. It's a new dot com. A bubble could be created. Right now people are paying more for companies and people are investing more into things than it's worth because it's hot. But once these motherfucking real estate agents
Starting point is 00:57:36 can't grow no weed and fuck everything up, they're going to tell. It's a wrap. It's going to fall off. The market will crash. And the real operators such as myself and Jungle Boys, shout out to Jungle Boys, the people that really grow weed will still be in the game. Who's other people that really grow weed?
Starting point is 00:57:51 There's a good amount, man. I'm sure they would love to hear you big them up. Man, now you got this little tiger shit in me, I can't even think right now. Who grows weed, man? Who said I do? You know, look, shout out to Gas House.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Shout out to Gas House. Okay. Shout out to Run. Shout out to Grand Aflores. What? Okay. Shout out to Sea Junkie, which got a line called Mints. Sea Junkie?
Starting point is 00:58:14 Okay. Yeah, Sea Junkie. Shout out to Juanito and Wes Kendall. He's killing the game right now. Juanito? Shout out to Juanito. Yeah. He's killing the game.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Shout out to Juanito. You know, there's a good amount of cannabis girls out there, man. Okay. Yeah. Kill the game. Shout out to Juanito. You know, there's a good amount of canvas girls out there, man. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Now, when Vegas went recreational, I was very disappointed. Yes. Because the bud was just terrible.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Well, it's not just them. The weather out there is fucked. Yeah. And they can only grow Vegas bud. They can only sell. And so you got to think like I'll touch down with the freshest Cali pack ever.
Starting point is 00:58:48 You bust that bitch open and within 20, 30 minutes I'm up in the straight sand. Wow. It's just hell. It's too dry out there to air. Just bringing it there.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah, because I didn't like I'm so to God. Like the fact that it was recreational. I was actually there the day it went recreational. I was there too. Oh, I was there. Yeah. And went recreational. I was there, too. Oh, I was there.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah. And I was disappointed. Well, you know, we're coming to Vegas soon. We'll leave it there. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, got you. Soon come Vegas.
Starting point is 00:59:15 We'll get you guys right. So how about Denver? Are you guys in Denver? Soon, too. Okay. I'm expanding right now to 12 states. You know, and so we're privately owned. You know, we're not on the public market. We're privately owned. We're not on the public market. We're real
Starting point is 00:59:25 operators. We're just going and we're finding the best cultivators, the best storefront operators. It's kind of like seeking talent. So right now, Cleese is just in California? That's it? No, we're in California, Michigan, Canada, Arizona. All of Canada?
Starting point is 00:59:44 I'm not sure yet. I think Vancouver. Vancouver's one of my favorite places. Arizona. All of Canada? I'm not sure yet. I think Vancouver and... Vancouver's one of my favorite places. Ontario or something like that. I love Vancouver. Yeah, we're going everywhere. Vancouver would be 90 degrees with snow on the shit. Maryland. Shout out to Maryland.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Maryland, okay. DC, yeah, DC. Damn. Oh, man. That's dope. Would you like this light of smoke, champs? Yeah, go ahead. I don't want you to light it.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I'll light it for you. How about this? You made me drink this weirdo shit. Yeah. I'm going to roll a special one. You're going to take a hit.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Okay. Okay, how about this? I'll take a hit of that if you take a hit of smoke, champs. Oh, no, no, no. That's a of that if you take a hit of Smoke Chance. No, no, no. That's a compromise.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You drink already. I don't smoke. But what's in that shit, though? It don't matter. I'll smoke your shit. It's all about the brand, baby. Hell no, blood. This shit look like coke on it. It's CBD. it's CBD. We call it a wash.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You smoke you? Nah, I'm not. Come tell him what's on this. Nah, I'm not. Come here. We wash our hands of this right now. Nah, my boy's wild. He was talking to me outside.
Starting point is 01:00:55 This guy's some shit in there, bro. I can't do this. Nah, nah, it's off here. It's off here. Come on, come on, nah, I got big studio sessions tonight. My wife's already mad at me. Something in Miami. Y'all about to have me fucked up.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah, tell them what's in there. Flour. It's indoor. Come on, bro. Whatever name of flour is on it. And sauce with wrap and CBD. CBD powder. We trying to look different out here, Burner.
Starting point is 01:01:18 We trying to be different. I just want to show the cameras what y'all trying to do. Yeah, show the cameras. We out here. Come on, we're going to collaborate. We out here being different, Burner. Look at that shit. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:01:28 What do you call it? Hey, look, I used to do cocaine. This is a key word, used to. You're bringing the wrong heat on us, man. I love it. I mean, cocaine words are not bad, right? Where am I supposed to take this? Only available in California, man.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Look, that look like a little rock, my guy. I right? I love it. Where am I supposed to take this? I'm like... Only available in California, man. Look, that look like a little rock, my guy. I'm going to do it. Man, I'm in the land of Scarface. Y'all got me drinking Tiger and trying to smoke some rock. We're going to use it for a commercial. Yo, by the way, big up to Shine Papers. We're going to talk about people with non-lives 2020.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You know what I'm saying? The Shine Papers, you know, when you're smoking a blunt, you're smoking a shine, baby. Here's what we're going to do, though. You know what I'm saying The Shine Papers You know when you smoking A blunt You smoking a shine baby Here's what we gonna do though You know what I mean I wanna do something for y'all Cause I'm the weed guru Yes
Starting point is 01:02:10 Never in a million years Where I light that Cause I be scared of that Alright cool I wanna get you guys A fucking collab Uh huh With an exclusive flower
Starting point is 01:02:19 That no one else has And a nice vibe paper This is my paper company Right here right Oh vibes Okay yeah We gonna do the glass tip With a vibe And I'm gonna put some no one else has okay champs cookies class. Let's go Pussy like myself shows up scared of that white stick
Starting point is 01:02:39 We got we got one like to come open that up. Come on. Find me a regular one, man. Yeah, we got regular ones. Don't put me down. Yeah, yeah. It's about to be smoked champs, too. Come on, Zanny. Champagne, I'm about to die tonight. No, you good. You good. We are protecting you. You are our treasure in hip hop, and we're going to protect you at all motherfucking costs.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Appreciate that, man. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute, my brother. Salute. Salute.
Starting point is 01:02:59 The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself. And I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season
Starting point is 01:03:25 of Medal of Honor Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has
Starting point is 01:04:18 gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms,
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Starting point is 01:05:04 The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the MeatEater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
Starting point is 01:05:56 So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your heart. So what's science and what's just really good marketing? On this episode of Dope Labs, me and Zakiya cut through the hype and get into the real deal behind probiotics with help from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. So yes, bacteria is definitely having a moment and I'm very excited about that. From probiotic drinks and gummies to face creams and pillows. Yep, we said pillows. The probiotic boom is everywhere. But how much of it actually works?
Starting point is 01:06:51 And what does it all mean for your gut, your skin, and even your mood? Join us on Dope Labs where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ah, I ain't been to the lab in a minute, y'all know that. Blabs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Outro Music love. But niggas choke under pressure guard. Invite a choke and he folds it under pressure guard. If you the homie you can rely on me. I won't let a human
Starting point is 01:07:48 being come and lie on me. So never tell me what I did and we didn't do. Drink, tap the streets. Niggas, we ain't political. I'm still happy to be here. It's still relevant. It's evident. Some niggas clowns just like the president. So I'ma stay around positivity. All I got time for in my vicinity.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Holy Trinity, Kennedy, Yosemite, Tiffany had epiphany through black nativity. Dramatically, mathematically, automatically, casually, battery, salary, lost gallery. I remember I bought bullets from jungle. Same night I got banned from the tunnel. But I don't like to talk about my past life. Cause my new life, new ice is too nice. Now I'm interviewed,ions in a week. Since it dropped me and Fox ain't speak.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I say that with love like a sister. I say that with love because I miss her. And me and Pone still talk about the war we fought. And still getting money just off the war report. Nicki went to Joe. We laugh and respected that. Queens get the money that's first. Never neglected that.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Fat Joe squashed it with Jay. See I connected that. Both sides have respect for the guard and I accepted that These bars gonna hit em like a Mickey This reached out to rethink your top 50 I'm on that energy guard, I need that energy I'm on that energy guard
Starting point is 01:08:56 I need that energy I'm on that energy guard, I need that energy We on that energy guard, we need that energy I'm on that energy guard, I need that energy I'm on that energy guard, I need that energy I'm on that energy, God, we need that energy. I'm on that energy, God, I need that energy. I'm on that energy, God, I need that energy. I'm on that energy, God, I need that energy. We on that energy, God, we need that energy. We need that energy.
Starting point is 01:09:12 We need that energy. But just to be clear, it's not cocaine. Yeah, it's not cocaine. I thought it looked something. You know, I want that reaction. You know what the hardest part about being burner is? Motherfuckers try to take my head off when they see me, bro. Kids will have joints waxed.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Oh, that's the drink jam shit going on now for us. Dude, it's like, look, yes, I'm a cannabis user, but I'm a father. I run 13 businesses. I'm a potential billionaire. I don't want to die. Yeah, I'll be at 6 o'clock in the morning in the airport. Motherfuckers be like, take a shot with me, Larry. I'm like, nigga, it's 6 a.m. It's 6. Motherfuckers be like take a shot with me I'm like nigga it's 6
Starting point is 01:09:45 8 air it's 6 motherfuckers got a flask at church I watch drink chats all day you taking a shot with me
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm like yo my man I'm on 1 you on 10 it's 6 o'clock in the morning at these weed festivals kids try to take
Starting point is 01:09:57 my neck off bro hey burn take a dab it's a fucking fat ass glob y'all just want me to die yeah
Starting point is 01:10:03 the big though I can't fuck with dabs I can't either bro you a dab guy no I fat ass glob. Y'all just want me to die. I can't fuck with dabs, Brandon. I can't either, bro. You a dab guy? I can't lie to you. I had hit a dab in a Korean dispensary one time. In Korea?
Starting point is 01:10:15 No, it was a Korean dispensary in LA. I just felt like the guy saw me coming. Pause. He seen me and said, that's Noriega. He said, I would like to give you a dad. This was before Dad came out. He came for you, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:30 He lit the shit with a torch. I said, I knew from the torch that this wasn't my league. I should not be here. But he lit it with the torch. And I didn't want him to waste all this time. So I said, I'm going to try. And two months later, I was still coughing. You I'ma try And two months later I was still coughing
Starting point is 01:10:45 You woke up Still coughing Two months later Just thinking about The Korean this mystery I've seen artists go to hospital Off Off dabs
Starting point is 01:10:53 Off dabs Off dabs I've seen artists go down Like big time I'ma bust one out Cause you got me drunk Bizarre I love you But that Wiz did you dirty bro
Starting point is 01:11:04 D12 Bizarre Man D12 Bizarre, I love you, but Wiz did you dirty, bro. D12 Bizarre? Man. D12 Bizarre? He's a cool guy, man, but Wiz did him dirty, bro. Wiz played him, bro. Oh, yeah? Off a dab? Yeah, Wiz gave him a hot big dab.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Bizarre ready for drink chances. We want to hear his side of the story. I was outside. I was on the phone. I seen him come out. I look around. Did he hold his chest? He was like like this and he held his chest again and they made a call and a truck pulled up and he was out and I was like damn they did big boy dirty that's my homie too I'm like damn so man shout out to Bizarre Man he did you dirty I'm
Starting point is 01:11:40 admit it right now. Nothing was wrong with that. It's got some keef on it. Yo, listen. I'll be honest. I'm not for the dabs. That is like... That is the... That's the highest form of weed. Like, that's like... Like, after that, it's crack. It's 100%.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Like, that's it. That's it. That's what I'm saying. That shit is... I don't like dabs because it reminds me when I used to do powder, bro. It makes your heart
Starting point is 01:12:02 jump through your chest. Nothing about that feels good. I'm a big boy. I'm 300 plus. So I don't want to feel this going on. I don't want to feel that. I'm going to start feeling my shit. That's why Bizarre probably felt his heart. He was having a fucking heart attack. I don't blame him. You ever passed out doing the dab or something like that? You know what? I was never dumb enough to do one like that, bro. I never let no one get me, bro. God damn let no one get me, bro. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Me too. Fuck that dab. When I did the dab, I had a low temperature. I took just a little bit. I hit that motherfucker real softly to taste it and see what it was about.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I was cool because I was also on the other end watching everyone trying to take people down on dabs. All tour wiz was like, I'm going to get this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:12:43 He would just knock him down with the dab. That's what made me make the song Wax Room. I made a song called Wax Room because on tour I walked in and seen everybody like this. I was like, damn, what the fuck? I looked at Wiz and he just had. I was like, damn. So what exactly is a dab?
Starting point is 01:13:02 So you take all the THC off the plant, and you make a concentrate. You do it either with water, ice cold water, or with butane. So it's like if you were juicing the plant? It's just like a fucking juice. It's almost like a juice. No, I'm saying it's like if you cold press it. And you take all the strawberries, and you make that bitch a little shot. Yeah, you take all the weed weed and you make yourself a little glob
Starting point is 01:13:25 and you hit that shit and that shit's going to fuck you up. Now, how about sauce? You fuck with the sauce? I like sauce because of the way it looks. You know, it smells really good. But again, I do a real low temp. I even rap about it, man.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I try to give my fans advice. Low temp. Nothing major. Nothing hot. No big old sauce dabs. It's going to fuck your day up. I even throw the wax in the blunt. I like wax, but I throw it in the blunt, because I'm a foul nigga.
Starting point is 01:13:50 See, I'm not a wax guy. Is it dirty? Is that a dirt? No, wax. The wax. I know, I know. See, when I was young and wild, I was on reggae in the river in Northern California. Reggae in the river?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Reggae in the river. I was probably like 22, 23. I was on cocaine and Grey Goose for three days in the river in Northern California. Reggae in the river? Reggae in the river. I was probably like 22, 23. I was on cocaine and Grey Goose for three days in the hot sun. Sounds like cocaine and Grey Goose. Only, no water. Nothing. I was drinking Grey Goose, wilding out with a bunch of beautiful women. And your boy dropped.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And I felt, before it happened, I felt my chest go like that. I felt my heart jump hella hard. And I dropped dropped i had to have the medics come and shit so that's why i had anxiety to this day because i always think about that because i probably was about to die right but that's why i don't fuck with the hash because when i smoked after that happened now mind you before that happened this is like i was smoking big hash in amsterdam and in the bay i would love hash i eat ed do all this shit. But when I try to smoke it after that situation, it made me feel like that day,
Starting point is 01:14:49 which created anxiety. I think getting off cold, cold Turkey, I stopped drinking and real talk. I'm not just saying that I don't drink. So I had to stop drinking because be a bartender, you drink, you do a little powder,
Starting point is 01:15:00 you fuck with drinking and cocaine. Cause the drink chance, right? That's why I stayed away from this my guy when I seen this I envisioned taking hella shots with him my hair growing back to be slicked right away
Starting point is 01:15:18 and grabbing like 15 mommies at the strip club like come on we going to tizzy's you leave playing Phil Collins taking bumps and shit right now that's what that's what made me stop drinking was all that shit
Starting point is 01:15:27 so I honestly just to let y'all know I haven't drank in a very long time I'm not saying that for the show I'm not saying that because I want sympathy
Starting point is 01:15:34 with the drinks I just don't drink no more but I had to step away from it I was a party boy big time one day we stepping away from it
Starting point is 01:15:41 one day yeah well here's the good thing we contractually fucked up for a little while. I'm telling you. We're going to survive our contract. If you're not doing blow with alcohol, you're good.
Starting point is 01:15:50 My problem was. Well, hey, stop it, bro. That's our engineer. My problem was when I was bartending, it was Friday night, hip hop night. Saturday night, techno. Sunday, salsa. That's a different drug every night. No, techno.
Starting point is 01:16:02 You got to be high to be in a techno club. No, it wasn't that. it was the salsa club. Salsa? They found out I was 19, I had all the girls, the Cuban dude, Baba, come here.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Put a little key in my fucking face, that's how I learned it. Oh shit, I'm up back. Why you not be a Cuban guy, bro? I don't know, that's what it was.
Starting point is 01:16:19 That's what it was. The Cubans used to give me bumps all night, it was fucked up. He's Cuban. You're Cuban?ans used to give me bumps all night. It was fucked up. He's Cuban. You're Cuban? Yeah. Man, you motherfuckers. I stand away from you.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Y'all motherfuckers are at the party, man. Y'all know how to get a cracker for real. Oh, shit. So, Cookies, what's the next step? Is there plans of Cookies New York? Absolutely. Cookies What's the next step Is there plans Of Cookies New York Absolutely My whole thing bro Is I want to make sure That my brand
Starting point is 01:16:48 Is able to put Good flour In all these markets New York All on the east coast All in the midwest Places that love That Cali bud
Starting point is 01:16:55 Right Instead of some weirdo Rich guy coming And growing some bullshit I want to make sure That the good flour Is available For all the New Yorkers
Starting point is 01:17:03 All the east coasters All the midwest They've been a fan of it Y'all been smoking I'd flowers available for all the New Yorkers, all the East Coasters, all the Midwest. They've been a fan of it. Y'all have been smoking. I'd love to get high with New Yorkers. I want to make sure y'all got the shit, man. So nationwide expansion is next. Global expansion.
Starting point is 01:17:15 There's Cookies Israel being built right now. Crazy. Bro, I ain't never told nobody this. It's about to be done by October. Cookies Israel? Yes, my guy. That's hot. Yes gosh ha yes I never been I'm going I don't know bro wherever they're doing they do a lot of medical
Starting point is 01:17:38 research out there they grow a lot of weed out there but wherever that's at there's where I'm gonna be at Wow expansion, brother. I want to spread this good herb around. We got a good menu. And Amsterdam as well? Fuck yeah. Is it hard to get into Amsterdam? I think you should have just said it's hard to get in. Amsterdam is a gray area, brother. There's no laws out there.
Starting point is 01:17:57 They're tolerated. What's that mean? That means if I get popping and I'm a minority and I got young people coming to shut me down, they make up the rules as they go. I'm just not down for that. But we're figuring out the little loopholes. We're going to get it done. Yeah, because there's been times I went to Amsterdam and they had trash weed as well.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah. Like they didn't have California weed. But gray area has always been a green place. That's the name of it? Green place. They always have No Green House Green House too But Green Place
Starting point is 01:18:27 Oh Green Place Green Place Yeah yeah Green Place That's our like Main spot Like me and Styles P Stood there for six hours
Starting point is 01:18:34 Shout out to Styles P Me and him got a great album too I love that guy right there Oh that's damn nigga Call 5 Everybody Hey look When I was in there with Styles
Starting point is 01:18:44 We got so high and recorded that album so fucking fast, it was like an adrenaline rush. I'm like, I'm fucking loaded man, turn the mic on. Buy me something. I'm like, god damn, how did he spit that shit? He could rap his ass off. When I first met Styles P, I thought we was going to fight. Because the nigga, he took some of my weed and he just he just smoked it
Starting point is 01:19:06 and he didn't pass it to me and I didn't know he was a personal guy at the time so I'm just looking like this nigga touched my weed one more time and don't pass it to me
Starting point is 01:19:15 it's gonna be on it's been on TV since then and I'm talking about ever since then me and this motherfucker and then I realized that he didn't
Starting point is 01:19:23 he was a personal guy he smoked for himself yeah he likes to have he likes that personal yeah he didn't let him know if he smoked together he said what he said he said something about nah man we some son we smoke our own like yeah yeah yeah but i made it in my all the time too though yeah yeah i'm with that too now but back then that was like you don't hey he had literally just seen the weed and he just took a piece. I was like, dude, what the fuck? He didn't even ask me.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I was like, look, that's cool. That's my brother. Shit, I'm getting the keys to my crib right now. So we went from there to there. Straight brother. Yeah, straight brother. That's one of the vibes. He's just like, be real, one of the legends that never changed up, bro.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Just solid, bro. A big him up and his wife um every time they come to miami we go out with me and my wife and i actually eat vegan food with them like i turn vegan when they come out here juice bar out here with them i was definitely i was vegan for like three months that shit was cool yeah yeah yeah i was vegan but i was i was i got turned soft really like somebody stepped on my shoe, and I apologized to them. Like estrogen in your veganism? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only thing about being vegan.
Starting point is 01:20:30 No, it was opposite, my guy. I was hangry. You was aggressive? I was hangry. Oh, no. I was hangry, bro. I need it. Fuck y'all eating, bro.
Starting point is 01:20:38 No, no, because listen. It gets confusing after a while, because you don't want to just eat rice and French fries and noodles. No, but you got to go to some of the best Jamaican food. Vegan is Jamaican food. I'mican food. Vegan is Jamaican food. I'm telling you. Vegan is Jamaican food? Some of the best vegan food is Jamaican. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Like, you got to go to a good, like, there's this place out here, Vegetarian Delight, where we get our- Shout out to them, man. What do they got? They got, like- Oh, they got pepper steak. Oh, everything. Coconut's got lobster. They got fake lobster, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:04 What is it though Let me ask you this When I was vegan I didn't do no fake nothing I don't wanna know I did a veggie burger That was like Brown rice
Starting point is 01:21:12 Mushroom And some little almonds Oh those are trash Don't fuck with those That was fire Impossible burgers Impossible burgers on the chain Nah nah bro
Starting point is 01:21:18 What is that bro What is that It's impossible to know Nah nah bro What is it I'm a big conspiracy No you're right You're right
Starting point is 01:21:24 No we was talking about that I'm a big conspiracy man Nah that you're right. You're right. No, we was talking about that. I'm a big conspiracy, man. That shit is good. The fake everything vegan, you don't know what the fuck. Nah, it's worse for you. It's GMO, in a sense. It's GMO. It's processed.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Get a goddamn black bean burger, bro. You can't go wrong with that. Yo, Burger King out here. Real vegan to eat salad. Burger King out here on the vegan tip right now. Burger King out here. I heard they shit is good. Man.
Starting point is 01:21:42 That's going to be GMO shit again. I like Whoppers, man. I can't lie. Whoppers are kind of fire, man. Whoppers are kind of fire. I heard they shit is good. Man. I like Whoppers, man. I can't lie. Whoppers are kind of fire, man. Whoppers are kind of fire. I agree. I would agree with that. What? Whoppers? You got to relax. Let me ask you something. Do you think that in terms of the legal cannabis world,
Starting point is 01:21:58 is hip-hop ahead of everybody else? Nope. Like on the business side of it? Nah. Majority artists Start something And they just don't Follow through with it
Starting point is 01:22:08 It takes a lot of time bro Like Right I mean So like the people you see In the business next to you Like the peers in that world None of them are hip hop artists
Starting point is 01:22:16 Like are there other artists Or are they just Business people Let me give you an example I'm in Miami Right I'm drinking with y'all There's a strip club
Starting point is 01:22:23 Down the street Oh Yo Self shot Self shot I'm in Miami. Right. I'm drinking with y'all. There's a strip club down the street. Oh. Yo. That's what I thought it was supposed to be. Self-shock. Self-shock. But any other normal artist would be here drinking, let the night slip by.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I'm over here watching my shit, go to the strip club, fuck around, be up all night, miss. I got a 6 a.m. flight. I got to catch that flight because we got a permit to sell weed in Golden Gate Park for the first time ever. There's going to be outside lands with like 100,000 people in Frisco. And we're selling weed and I got to get there tomorrow to do paperwork and to make sure we got our product together and all that. And so I can't, I don't see other artists, and I be no disrespect, being that disciplined, bro. Shit's hard. I'm tempted to go have fun.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I'm starting to think about all kinds of shit. But I don't see a lot of artists Being able to be that disciplined And say nah I gotta cut this off at this time I gotta make sure I'm home Make sure my bags are packed Man rappers man they ain't doing that shit They getting fucked up in some places
Starting point is 01:23:15 As an artist I'm a piece of shit But as a CEO I'm on time Well there's a big window right now I'm sorry a small window right now Or I'm sorry A small window Right now Where you can get it You can really get it And I feel like Cookies
Starting point is 01:23:29 Has a chance to be One of them brands That really goes And that shit That shit alone Gives me anxiety Because I come from shit bro What
Starting point is 01:23:35 You know I grew up On top of a studio On top of my dad's restaurant In a studio apartment With my brother And my dad And one of my dad's homies And if you know
Starting point is 01:23:43 A studio apartment You from New York You know what's up Them motherfuckers is small there's no room bro and so to think that i could potentially be one of these guys that makes it the right way and has a real successful exit that shit trips me out alone all right so i being the ceo i gotta take my shit serious right yeah ceo i see y'all basically long story short lamest terms i don't have fun no more. Why? I can't.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Why? Because if I miss it and I fuck up, and trust me, a lot of these big business suit dudes, they don't want me to make it. Look at me.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Right. I've got a $250,000 weed leaf on my neck. They don't want me to make it. Right, right. You know, they want to keep it just like every other business. Fuck that.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Right. That's one of the things we're doing, too, with the equity empowerment program. So cities get people that have been arrested, been put in jail or have been charged with weed crimes or have a certain amount of income, the opportunity to have to be a partner in a business. So you can't open a business unless you involve an equity applicant. Now a lot of these guys are just paying them off a little small money to get it done.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I'm actually doing real business with them, giving them half of the store earnings, whatever, giving them a real salary, teaching them business, providing generational wealth opportunities for people all through different cities. In Boston, I forgot to mention we're in Boston, San Francisco and Oakland. So, you know, the shit's trippy, bro. We're trying to keep people from the game in the game.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Straight up. Make some noise for that guy. Come on, man. I mean, we can't forget. We're trying to keep people From the game in the game Straight up Make some noise for that God damn it I mean we can't forget Like I said You're on some Kennedy shit Cause if people don't know history The Kennedys made their wealth
Starting point is 01:25:15 Through bootlegging When liquor was illegal He ain't bootlegging I didn't know that No no but I'm saying It starts from that Like this was not a legal business Became legal
Starting point is 01:25:23 It's still going through it. And that's why I think that's young Kennedy shit. Thank you. Hope they don't assassinate my ass. No, no, no. There's still some Kennedys alive. Nah, one just OD, dude. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:25:34 One, yes. Oh, yeah, the girl. Granddaughter of... Can people... Not Robert. A Cookies franchise? You know, we haven't really done it like that yet. Nah, we want to keep it... Like a, like I can buy a Subway right now.
Starting point is 01:25:49 You can't buy a cookie. It's more like Chick-fil-A. Oh, Chick-fil-A. You don't give it to everyone. You don't give it to everyone. So I go to a city. I'm going to look at your infrastructure. I'm going to look at your whole history, how you rock.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I'm going to look at your grow, how you grow your shit, how shit how you cure your shit i'm gonna look at how you operate without us if you're killing it then you're gonna be able to go blue and we're gonna turn this shit up we're gonna put the right your necks in your grove we're gonna turn you up we're gonna take a small royalty and then you know do a buyback program when it's all time to go so i'm on my i'm on my founder without being shady shit but shit filet not fucking with everybody so it's like i'm not fucking with everybody because if you do that you water down the brand but fire ourselves a little better you know i mean so you know you gotta just kind of go where you want to go everywhere but you pick your partners wisely and my whole thing is quality
Starting point is 01:26:38 control bro if you can grow it and i'll smoke it then we'll do a deal wait what is that if people what if people grow it and i'll smoke it we'll do a deal Wait What is that If you go what If people grow it And not smoke it We could do a deal Oh okay So is that the way it works They have to grow it In their area
Starting point is 01:26:51 For you For it to even Start a conversation Well yeah If I go to Baltimore If I go to You know If I go to Boston
Starting point is 01:26:55 They already have to be operating Cause you can't Transport Yeah you can't go Federally The federally Won't let you go You know
Starting point is 01:27:01 Different states And shit like that God damn it So wait So the Have the feds ever Came to cookie Federally won't let you go, you know, different states and shit like that. God damn it. So, wait. So, have the feds ever came to cookies yet? Well. Well, what happened was. They used to fuck me and get off the airplane.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Wait, what? All the time. Little shot of Tiger Bone. What? Can't do that. Little tiny bit. You good. Nah, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I'm done. I love you, brother. We drink champs. Come on. Give me more champagne. You can't let 50 Cent do more than you. I. I don't want to die. I don't want to die late, brother. We drink champagne. Come on. Give me more champagne. You can't let 50 Cent do more than you. I'm just done with that. Man, look.
Starting point is 01:27:29 At least you got to do two. He did five. Two things. 50's on Xanax and 50's buff. I'm fat and I'm on Xanax. I'm not going out like that, bro. No, you ain't got to worry about it. Let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 01:27:37 This is natural. It's all natural. Man. This is the doctor. Hey, coca leaf is natural, dog. Come on, man. Come on, man. The doctor prescribes this, my brother
Starting point is 01:27:46 Sonny, read the ingredients of the bottle It's good It's good for you Man, look Just two, just two Here's what you forget I need some more champagne I'll watch your show, my dog
Starting point is 01:27:53 And see what happens He sees a slide Look, I know I got an early flight Two artists pulling up to the studio I got to see some moment in Miami And get my shit done But I'm going to drink some and be like, I got to see the moment in Miami and get my shit done. But I'm going to drink some champagne with you.
Starting point is 01:28:07 No problem. Come on, come on, some more champagne. Yeah, give me more champagne. And we're going to do one last shot. That's it.
Starting point is 01:28:12 That's it. Two is your lucky number. Tell me the truth, though. With Xanax, am I fucked, bro? No, no, you're not. No, because it's natural. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Tiger Bone goes with nothing, but it goes with everything. If it makes sense. That's it. That's it. that's it. You gonna have me in tootsies in a divorce? No, no. You gonna have me going through DMs?
Starting point is 01:28:30 No, we will not do that. Skull emojis, skull emojis. And cuz they don't kick it for 24 hours, how the hell is it tomorrow? No, what'd you say? He said, he said it kicks in in 24 hours. No, he's playing with you. No, no, no, you doze off and don't wake up.
Starting point is 01:28:44 He's trying to scare you. Let me give you no. You doze off and don't wake up. He's trying to scare you. Let me give you a Xanian hat and give you this shirt then. So, let's touch on that for a second because what the fuck is a Xanax?
Starting point is 01:28:54 I don't even know what that is. Let me say this. Bro, do not take Xanax. And if you're watching this, it's terrible. I would love to get off for one day.
Starting point is 01:29:03 As far as I know, because if you think about it, bro, I'm in a shark tank 24-7 with multi-billionaires. I'm independent. I never went to college. I'm running now a billion-dollar business. God damn it. Next to guys that are super more savvy, super smarter than me. So from cookies clothing, cookies weed business, the music, Santa Cruz Shredder, G-Pen, Reestash Jar, Weed Maps.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Well, G-Pen is you too. That's right. The 13 businesses I have, your boy be going through it. I'm talking about 17-hour days. Don't get to see the fam much. But a lot of stress. You know, weed game is political. If you think it's just legal now and people are making money I got to do with politics, bro
Starting point is 01:29:45 I could imagine, yeah It's really political Motherfuckers be tripping And it'd be a lot of bullshit And this shit changes daily Long story short It's not an excuse But I've had anxiety for a while
Starting point is 01:29:52 When I quit drinking And doing cold, cold turkey Right That was good for me But it gave me a crazy anxiety I don't know what it was It gave me a crazy anxiety My heart was always tripping and shit
Starting point is 01:30:03 So I take Xanax once a day Because I have to, because of the amount of business I do. But with me trying to get my body back right and shit like that, I don't really want to be on that no more. So I got to figure out a way to get off that practice. The way you talk about cocaine is like you Scarface-level cocaine. Scar Storch-level cocaine. Hey, bro, I was on Storch, but I was one of them boys. You need to get that already? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:30:25 What's your problem? Oh, see, how he getting out? Come on, man. I'm with her. Yeah, get in. He poured it down his chest. Let me see his Tiger Bomb box, man. Let me put a box in it, man.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Come on, man. Come on. Yo, Burner, man, once again, we give people their powers while they alive. We are so happy. We are so sad when people pass away or people, and they give people these accolades afterwards let me see that real quick okay you got me in the same level as you pop you want me to go a little heavier I go heavier now okay I got you we're gonna do that we're gonna salute you my brother this is for you it's my last one dude drink chairs drink chairs Taking a picture?
Starting point is 01:31:06 I've been drinking this for 20 years and I'm not used to it. How are you not used to something you've been doing for 20 years? I'm going to be honest with you. I don't mind the taste. I'm scared of what's going to happen to me. That's why I'm wearing it.
Starting point is 01:31:14 No, no, no. To tell you the truth, you know what this is? We didn't mind the taste in the beginning either. You know what this is for? You're right. You're right. You know what this is for?
Starting point is 01:31:21 All right. You're going to give me your shits. This is the funniest shit. This is the funniest shit in the world. Back in the days, juice bars in New York City was the cheap doctor. It was a place where you would go, your hand hurt,
Starting point is 01:31:39 they would have a care for you in the juice bar. The Jamaicans or the West Indians would be behind there. I would have everything care for you in the juice bar. The Jamaicans or the West Indians would be behind there. I would have everything. So one day, I see the old man come in there, and he hugged the Ross. And the way he hugged Ross, I said, I need to know what the fuck he hugged him for. Because this is a grown man. He had tears in his eyes.
Starting point is 01:32:03 You could tell he was an OG. He had gators on, so that depicted it. He a real nigga, like in New York, if you got gators on, anywhere if you pass 50, you a real nigga, right? So I looked, I said, the nigga got gators on, he about that life.
Starting point is 01:32:18 So I asked him, I said, yo, my man, why did you hug the homie like that? Like, I needed to know, like, because it was a different hug. He's like, I like it to him.
Starting point is 01:32:29 You know? He said, he looked at me in my face, said, young man, my dick ain't working 16 years. And Tiger.
Starting point is 01:32:39 And he said, man, you give me this shit in Miami? I'm going to tell you right now, this is why this is a terrible story that he tells about Tiger Bone. We got no business talking about that this shit makes you dick hard.
Starting point is 01:32:52 There's a bunch of dudes drinking this shit right now. Man, my wife's going to see this shit. When you put it like that, it doesn't get you. Every time you say this shit, I cringe, bro. I'm like, stop telling our guests this story, bro. No, but because this was L to me, like, this was ill, like, because, like, he, he, so, but it wasn't just Tiger, it was a combination, it was Tiger, it was, like, some blue pills, it was, like, wheatgrass, like, whatever, like, he.
Starting point is 01:33:16 The natural Viagra, that's what it was supposed to be. And listen to me, so I saw, I asked the dude, I said, why are you like that? Because I'm curious, like, you know, I knew I was going to get older someday cuz I'm curious like, you know I knew I was gonna get older someday so like Curious He's been busted off but listen, so what I'm looking I said,, yo, what? Yeah, you can't even buy it no more. Trump don't let that shit in. So I said, I know. Sure as long as you ask, don't.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I said, I know, like, I'm going to get older. So I said, he said, yo, I told my wife to cheat. This is what the man is telling me. He said he told his wife to cheat because he couldn't, you know, he couldn't get it.
Starting point is 01:33:59 That's cold. And he said his wife would. So she did everything. She did the buyout. Nothing worked for him. But motherfucking Typhoon paid to the motherfuckers. And he said his wife would so she did she did everything she did the buyer nothing's nothing work for The story is an amazing story, but this is what he gets out his wife I got a crazy long-haired Mexican wife at the house that's going to see this
Starting point is 01:34:26 and be like, oh, you was drinking that shit in my house. She's going to be ready. Don't worry. My wife is Puerto Rican and Cuban and she's watching as well.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Don't worry about it. That's right. Don't worry about it. I come home every night. God damn it. God damn it. I might come home late, but I come home.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Do you have a driver? You're not driving after you leave, right? No, I don't drive. I don't drive. Can you tell your man from Kendall? Can he run my thing to the DMV now? He's not from after you leave. No, I don't drive. I don't drive. Okay, listen. You know what? Can you tell your man from Kendall? Can he run my thing to the DMV now? He's not from Kendall, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:49 He's in Hialeah. Damn, you hooked me up with a nigga from Hialeah? I don't understand where this is going. But yeah, can you tell him to run my name to the DMV because I paid off all my tickets? You want me to tell him right now on Dream Chats? Yeah, place. On my own Dream Chats. You know, bro, I never had a license.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I'm 41 years old. Can I tell you the truth? I never had a license. I had a permit once. I don't drive. You don, bro, I never had a license. I'm 41 years old. Can I tell you the truth? I never had a license. I had a permit once. I don't drive. You don't drive? I sit in the back. I sit in the back
Starting point is 01:35:10 and make big cars. I make big cars. Goddamn, make some more. I'm sorry, I drive. Only one time I drove. Oh, three times I drove. You're getting all the good stories. The first time I drove,
Starting point is 01:35:22 I bought a whip when I was 16. Then I was smoking in my whip When I was 16 Then I was smoking In my whip Was in the park Took off Was driving Thinking I was cool as fuck And I hit an old man
Starting point is 01:35:32 Oh Oh come on And I I stopped the car I stopped there And the old man Popped out You bitch ass motherfucker
Starting point is 01:35:39 And I just Bet the corner And did Oh you hit and ran I hit that motherfucker and I ran. Well, he said that motherfucker jumped up. When I seen him jump up, I said, he's not dead. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Or he's a trailer that was bumping. The problem is, I got my whip back to the house. I parked it. I sat there. I smoked another one. And then my high ass hit the thing. I turned it. And the car was going like this.
Starting point is 01:36:04 And it just capri-sunned my neighbor's whip. It didn't. You turned all the way in the thing. I turned it. And the car was going like this. And it just capri-sunned my neighbor's whip. It didn't. You turned all the way and it whipped. I should have stopped, backed up, turned it. But I'm just thinking I'm like fucking whatever. So I crushed that dude's car and had to go hide the car. And I knew the neighbor knew. He was an older man.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I knew he knew it was my shit because the car never came back. And I just said, you know what, Brian? You're going to kill somebody. So I'm not driving no more. Fuck you. And I haven't had a driver ever since. And, being a pack boy, I never wanted to drive anyways. I probably would have been in jail
Starting point is 01:36:29 if I would be driving, so. Goddamn, let's make some noise for niggas not driving. Yeah, come on. You're stupid. I love it. I'm still driving. Nah, you better spend some money here, man. I'm going to be honest, my nigga. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:36:44 This is the cheapest. Yo, listen, this nigga ain't spent nothing here, man. I'm going to be honest, man. I'm going to be honest. This is the cheapest. Yo, listen, this nigga ain't spend nothing, my man. I'm going to invest this time. This nigga gets money. Are you serious? I'm trying to get him to invest in his life. Yo, listen. I tried to get him to get a chain.
Starting point is 01:36:59 I was like, yo, let's get a chain. He's like, what? Fuck that shit. I said, damn it, man. Like, everyone has a chain. Get a chain. I have a chain. And's like, what? Fuck that shit. I said, damn it, man. Like, everyone has a chain. Get a chain. I had a chain. And I said, fuck that shit, man.
Starting point is 01:37:10 It's a liability. I can't lie. This guy don't want to spend shit. This nigga's going. That's a lie. Oh, no. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I still got your back, brother. But Jesus, man. Come on. You on drink champs. You need a chain. That way, if people get dizzy, they can just look at the chain. They drink champs you need a chain that way people get dizzy they can just look at the chain you don't need to get a chain this guy gotta do his stuff man he gotta get gold gold sneakers and stuff look after he hits this London pound cake he gonna
Starting point is 01:37:35 get a chain for sure let's see if he hit this you had me hit a Keith pre-roll drink some tiger shit from China you smoke that shit you drink the Columbia White. I'm in, brother. I was smoking shit out of that shit right there. I've been trying to get him and Fat Joe high for 20 years. You keep washing your hands. You're smart, dude. You know my weakness. I know yours. It's not going to go well. I've been trying to get him and Fat Joe high for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:37:59 But listen, one day, Fat Joe, we're out on dinner and Mr. Charles and Fat Joe had we're out on dinner, and Mr. Charles. Mr. Charles. And Fat Joe had a toothache, so we had the vapor. And I passed it to Fat Joe, and he hit it. And I felt like I won it in life.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Yeah, he said that. I felt like, I was like, oh, shit, he hit it. So he hit like two, three, three, four. But I didn't think he'd get high i just thought he got unnumbed because his tooth was up but it was still a victory for me you ever watch um entourage johnny drama yeah that's what i was like the whole time victory did he inhale it though he inhaled it i think he did i think he did, because then I got him to shoot my nephew's video. Oh, God. Right. Do a video.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I knew he was high as hell. Don't let me hang it, nigga. I knew he was high as hell. He was just staring there like, oh, shit, this nigga Norrie actually got me in a video. Like, it was unplanned. But this is just how we roll, Jermaine. This is how we roll. Naturally, things that happen like that is amazing.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Yeah, always. Always, man. Live for those moments. Oh, we're going to get you to drink some. Always, always, man. Live for those moments. We're going to get to drink some more champagne. Get some more champagne. I'm full. I know what's up. You know, look, being burner, I've been peer pressured into a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I like that shit, though. I learned how to avoid the peer pressure. It's hard. It's hard. No, but you're a legend. They black burner. They black burner. Let me just get 100, bro.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Just one last. Let me get a box.burn. Let me just get a hundred, bro. Just one last. Let me get a box. A hundred pounds? Let me get a thousand pounds. And everyone in and around, come on, fam. It's big artists. And their entourage is trying to peer pressure me to bounce back and relapse. And I have to look at them and say, no.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I'm not going to do that. I love you, though, brother. Here, matter of fact, smoke this shit. And it's always cool. So I'm going to do that. Why? Because if I drink too much, I know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna miss my flight, I'm not gonna rap good
Starting point is 01:39:47 on the song I'm about to go do right now, I'm probably gonna end up in a strip club, I might bareback something. Oh! And then you have a kid in Miami. I know old Burns and I'll tell y'all this, the reason why I've been to Miami five times and never came to drinks apps,
Starting point is 01:40:04 I'm like he's going to get me bro Let me ask you something So what club have you been taught To like in Miami What is they telling us It doesn't matter The best time I ever had in Miami In a nightclub was at 11
Starting point is 01:40:15 I think 11 is trash You know what for me that night It wasn't trash It's like Cirque du Soleil strip clubs No Oh you're talking about strip clubs Yeah I mean you named That's a strip so come down south go to showgirls um don't go to showgirls they got bullet wounds trust me yo i've only been to tootsies one time
Starting point is 01:40:35 here that's it you see see like i'm gonna i'm gonna there's a little confrontation on there i feel like i was on the prison yard i'm gonna'm going to put you on. Nine Twizzies. Twizzies is not the prison yard. Twizzies is upscale. That's upscale. Okay. What you need to do is booby trap on the river. My boy Michael Corleone told me about that spot. And I'm going to tell you. I think you should buy a system over there too.
Starting point is 01:40:55 At nighttime, but that's like the top nonchalant. If you go in the daytime, that's low self-esteem. Can I tell you something? So you'll be great. They treat you very great. I apologize for speaking like this because I'm on Tiger Bomb. But daytime girls. Daytime they have low self-esteem.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Listen to me. I don't touch nothing. I just look. No, I used to. I have looked. When I was in my prime. We were ex-strip club goers. I was ex-strip club goers.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Can I tell you in confidence? Yes, please. To the world. Nobody's listening. I was a king of strip clubs, bro. Before I was in my prime. We were ex-strip club goers. I was ex-strip club goers. Please, can I tell you in confidence? Yes, please. To the world in my prime. Nobody's listening. I was the king of strip clubs, bro. Before I was settled down. And let me tell you something. My game, 100%.
Starting point is 01:41:32 In San Fran? In San Fran, but everywhere we toured and went. Dayshift. They're bored. They're new. The new girls go there. You know about the dayshift. They're low in confidence.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Okay, you know about it. And they get off at 6 p.m. Oh, my goodness. And so, I love the day. All right, guys. Talk to it. It was very easy for me. I go in.
Starting point is 01:41:52 I have six cell phones on the table. I smell like this. They want to know who I was and what I was doing. I said, listen, they talk more when you get off at 6, baby. I'll be right out front. And that was just the game. Is Take One still around? Take One should have took one. Because Take One had one shift. Because God damn front and that was just the game take one
Starting point is 01:42:05 took one take one had one shift cuz god damn it that's it take one was foul take one's foul showgirls I didn't know you were a strip club guy no I used to be I'm recovering it feels good to share my past addiction With fellow addicts Gold Rush See I like the Gold Rush I don't like Club Black
Starting point is 01:42:29 I'm going to say it like this though I like Gold Rush Hey All these big cities Like Miami And all this shit Bro you never Experienced the Bay
Starting point is 01:42:36 Because all the girls Would come from Small surrounding cities That just wanted to be In the big city And there's a street Called Broadway Street There's like 11 strip clubs
Starting point is 01:42:44 On that street. All right. And it was just a goldmine, brother. I'm going to just tell you why Bane was always a little crazy to me in the strip clubs and the Bane. It's because the hyphy thing. They're like, chicks will come up to me and just be like. I was like, damn, bitch, what the fuck are you doing? That's what they do at first.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And then she start wiggling her ass. I was like, no, no, that's what you said. I was a little confused. That's what you said. Bitch, get your crazy ass out of my face. Let me get that little lost girl in the corner. Come over here. Yeah, that little happy one's getting no play.
Starting point is 01:43:10 So now let me talk about the Bay Area. Because Fillmore Street, what was your affiliation to Fillmore Street? Because that's Fillmore Slim. That's like, books wrote about that. I used to live on Fillmore in California with my dad on top of my dad's restaurant. So I used to take the 22 Fillmore Slim, that's like, books wrote about that. I used to live on Fillmore in California with my dad, on top of my dad's restaurant. So I used to take the 22 Fillmore to school. And that's Big Pimpin' right there. Yeah, we used to go to Blockbuster right there and steal all the movies and shit, video games.
Starting point is 01:43:34 We'd go sell them to the barber right there on the corner. I just said Blockbuster. That's the first Netflix, nigga. It's the first Netflix, nigga. I used to hang out out there. That's it. So, oh damn. So did you ever meet Phil Moore Slim?
Starting point is 01:43:46 Nah, I never met Pippin, man. I never met Pippin. I read books about that nigga. Yeah, he had it cracking, bro. Yeah, he had it cracker-lacking. Smooth guy. Smooth guy. Sure.
Starting point is 01:43:55 You were like the first Snoop Dogg. Man, he was like a pimp Snoop Dogg, but just in a whole rare form. He just had it cracking. So, you ever tried to be a pimp? Because I tried to be a pimp for a week. It didn't work out for me. Well, you know. And the Bay is known for pimping.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Unfortunately, I fell into the Bay Area rap scene. Yeah, I had girls give me money, but it was more like babysitting. You didn't like it? Nah, bro. I mean, at first, when I was first coming up, yeah, I liked it. Bitches giving you $5,000, $700, $800, $300, $10 racks.
Starting point is 01:44:23 They all want to compete with each other. Oh, you went through it. You went through it. Oh, yeah, I really went through it, bro. Did you have the curly hair and shit? Nah, I, 300, 10 racks. They all want to compete with each other. Oh, you went through it. You went through it. Oh, yeah, I really went through it, bro. Did you have the curly hair and shit? Nah, I had sleep back hair. He had three flowers. My shit was boom.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Cardboard. Wasn't moving. Wasn't moving. But, you know, at the end of the day, that shit's more like babysitting. And, you know, I have a daughter now, too. So I'm like, I can never, ever fuck with it. But being a Bay Area rapper, I was influenced by my other fellow Bay Area rappers, the Breaka Bitch. Too short, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:50 You know, bitches chose, they gave bread, I had a little fun with it. But I was like, you know what? I ain't got time to be no fucking babysitter. I'm out of this shit. It's too much. Too much drama. And I always thought a girl's dad was going to come kill me. It was always a weird thing I saw, and I just stopped.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Or the girl. Yeah. Or the girl. dad was going to come kill me. It was always a weird thing I saw, and I just stopped. What a girl. Yeah. What a girl. That's some deep shit right there. Get you caught up in all kinds of ways. Because that's like one of the main hustles in the Bay Area. Coming up in the Bay Area, it's like, you know, the music, the culture, the lifestyle teaches you that that's what you do. You break a bitch, you milk a bitch.
Starting point is 01:45:21 It's all on the bitch. It's just what they teach you. All right. You know, I just took the game I learned from pimping and applied it to other businesses which is really
Starting point is 01:45:29 just good communication. Because in order to get a girl to give you her money, you've got to have a cold mouthpiece. You've got to be able to talk real smooth. You've got to be real convincing.
Starting point is 01:45:38 You've got to be real thorough. Especially the ones that don't hit them. Like, they don't hit them and they still get you to get the money back. You mean like guys that hit girls and shit?
Starting point is 01:45:44 Yeah, like, yeah. Oh, I never did none of that. You never did that. I just wouldn't give them the deep. No, I say most pimps. Most pimps do. But I remember, like, Pimpin' Juju. Like, that's my friend.
Starting point is 01:45:52 And I remember he would never touch it. He would never hit his girls. But his game was so cold that, like, I watched them, Pimpin' Juju and Pimpin' Ken. I watched them all night, and I said, these motherfuckers is different. Pimpin' Ken, huh? You know Pimpin' Ken? Yeah. Pimp Pimp Ken. I watched them all night and I said, these motherfuckers is different. Pimp Ken, huh? You know Pimp Ken? Yeah. Pimp Ken,
Starting point is 01:46:08 I told you, I tried to be a pimp for one week. It didn't work out for me. That's just hilarious. It didn't work out for me because the crazy shit was, like,
Starting point is 01:46:15 I always thought, like, you know, and then the chick actually chose me. So I was like, yo, bitch, you need to choose.
Starting point is 01:46:20 That's what I thought I was supposed to say. That's what I thought I was supposed to do. But it worked. It worked for me a lot. I'd get $10, worked for me a lot i get ten thousand choosing fee all the time and i just have to shake the so you got to die
Starting point is 01:46:30 yeah straight up you tell a baby girl i need you to separate yourself from every other girl trying to rock with me and i get rap money i get paid a hundred thousand dollars a show i'm lying like i wasn't even getting paid nothing i don't need none of you y'all need me and if you want to live a good lifestyle and travel the world and see things you got to break some bread and bitch separate yourself from everybody and they come back with the 10 grand. I'm like goddamn For free You gotta choose she was like, okay I choose you I said,, I said, yo, you got to choose. She was like, okay, I choose you. I said, oh, shit, I didn't know what to do from there. I said, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:47:08 She was window shopping. No, listen, so I did the natural thing. I said, yo, when you walk with me, just put your head down. So she put her head down. Pippa Kelly, Pippa Juju said, yo, youngin', if you don't give me that bitch. And I was like, I'm keeping her. I was like, but I didn't know what to do. And I went to Bishop Don Warren.
Starting point is 01:47:27 And I said, Bishop, what did Moses do? He said, you're supposed to give it away, young blood. You don't know the first thing I'm going to do. It's a headache, bro. You better off. No, definitely. That's not me. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:47:39 I was just, I had a moment. They gave me the famous player award. You know, they do a War is bought the players war every year Yeah, and they so one year like they give it to a celebrity every year So they gave me one this year, and I just I don't know why I said I'm one A blue silk yeah, I thought I was and then I realized I'm not about that life at all. Nah, fuck that. Rap money is way better.
Starting point is 01:48:09 It's honest. It's good. Yes, yes, yes. So. Damn, what the fuck is that? Rain? That's rain? Man, look.
Starting point is 01:48:16 I'm over here thinking all kinds of shit's happening. I'm drunk as fuck right now. You are. I was going to say, because three is my lucky number. I was going to say, you should enter that three. I'm going to keep it real, too. I'm going to rap right now. my lucky number I was going to say You should enter that three I'm going to keep it real with you I'm going to rap right now No problem
Starting point is 01:48:27 Because you have to understand My stupid medicine Gave me a booster Is that right? Is that right? It's a real medicine That's right But the whole thing is
Starting point is 01:48:38 I was sitting here right now Questioning life I'm like okay I'm faded I'm talking about My pimping experience This motherfucker Got me talking about my pimping experience But I really want to do what the fuck is this shit is
Starting point is 01:49:05 I'm not gonna lie. We need to make our own version of tiger bone and we need to put it is it right here somebody because that was fucking me up to the base I'm like is it the base of my heartbeat oh yeah cuz you work it in a great studio that's a dope that's a dope studio you got me you got me so faded right now, I can't even like this shit, bro. Man, please, lady, man. Please, lady. I'm the dead, dead, dead. We want you to feel. I'm going to take a little shot of Tiger for you. The 41. Oh! Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:33 We got to get him to smoke without him trying to take me down, bro. He definitely not going to smoke. I ain't going to lie to you. He can say no, but I couldn't earlier. It's because you're a great guy, man. You got to attribute it to you. So how many shots does it take to get to how I feel right now? Well, four, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:49:50 This is three. So I'm going to relax at three. So four, you're done. And two, I'm done. I'm done at two then. Yeah, you're good. I mean, well, I take a little bit more for me. Because sometimes these interviews last about two hours.
Starting point is 01:50:02 I think we just started at nine. And what time is it right now? Man 10.30 So we're an hour and a half right now Something like that, right? I'm wondering I'm wondering how that shit
Starting point is 01:50:13 Creeped up on me though Because I was two And now I'm like this Yeah I feel like I feel like getting the Eel mink coat Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:50:22 I feel like I ain't gonna front you You look like you wanna go back to pimping right now. Whatever this shit is, this is bad. You got me wanting to go back to pimping. You know what we used to do on tour? I kid you not.
Starting point is 01:50:36 When Def Jam, when I was in my years on Def Jam, Def Jam started to realize that I liked that type of shit. What the fuck was that? Oh, the lights went off? Def Jam started to realize that I liked that shit,
Starting point is 01:50:50 so what they would do is, they would wake up in the morning on my tour bus, and they would give me a shot of that right before I go to like the, a morning show or something. You know what that shit did do? It took my head away too.
Starting point is 01:51:00 The shit would have you mad hyper. The shit would have you mad hyper. My headache, I had a badass headache when I came in. Oh, it went away? Because it's all natural. This is all natural.
Starting point is 01:51:07 We were sitting in that hot box and smoking for like five hours. I didn't sleep since I've been here. So I had a crazy headache when I came in, but that shit just... Oh yeah, this is natural.
Starting point is 01:51:16 I'm not even lying. That's in Styles P's juice bar. You know, all he sells is good shit and his shit. He don't sell no... Juice for life, right? Juice for life, yep.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Shout out to styles p so yeah what what what does it take to get you faded oh i take a lot it takes a lot i i drink i drink um all right so if you took four tiger bombs tiger bone tiger bone not tiger tiger bomb is what you rub on yourself if you put tiger bomb a tiger on Tiger Bone, that shit will fuck you up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck that. Nah, nah, nah. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:51:47 Go ahead. You got a shot? I got a shot right there. So we're going to take this four burner. Thank you. Hey. He can gracefully bow out. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Salute. Salute. It's okay. Make it fly. Salute. Salute. Salute. We definitely want you to make it fly.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Keep making them business moves that can help all of us. Salute. Salute, goddammit. It will help all of us. Because when we come to Miami, I'm going to get with you guys that's doing that right there. We're going to get some pre-roll collabs. Absolutely. We can get some pre-roll. We've been supposed to do a pre-roll collab. That's a fact. That's a fact Miami, I'm going to get with you guys. We're going to get some pre-roll collabs. We've been supposed to do a pre-roll collab.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I'm not going to lie. I feel very guilty right now. We have to get this done. We're not going to say the name of it. We're going to get that done. We know the name. I feel wild right now. That was the toughest one. That might have been the most terrible one.
Starting point is 01:52:23 You glad? You would have collapsed. It would have taken 12 hours. That might have been the most terrible one. You glad. I'm glad you skipped that one. You would have collapsed. It would have taken 12, 24 hours. It would have been one hour. And I don't know why I sipped it and didn't pause. Pause, pause, pause, swallow. Pause.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Pause. Because I mixed it with the Moex. So I just... Who was the guy that got the most fucked up on the show after that? Sadax. Not over that. Oh yeah, hands down. He wanted to stab motherfuckers. Sadat X. Not over that. Oh yeah, hands down. He wanted to stab motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Not over that. Not over that. Sadat X was like, Sadat X got drunk. He was gonna steal somebody. He was like, I feel like robbing somebody. I'm like, Sadat! Sadat, what are you trying to do? He's like, yeah, I'm gonna rob somebody.
Starting point is 01:52:54 And he got up, and I'm looking at Sadat, because this is not him at all. Sadat was a great guy. And it happened at the end. We didn't even notice it. He just got violent out of nowhere. He guy. And it happened at the end. Like, we didn't even notice it. He just got violent out of nowhere. Like, no one's growing up on the table. No, no one's growing up.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Who? Sadat? Oh, damn. No, but he's like a champ. Oh, yeah, yeah. He kept on. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:20 I forgot that one. Am I wrong? He almost did. Oh, he almost did. I forgot that one. What was 50 like when he was drunk? That was amazing. That was funny.
Starting point is 01:53:27 First of all, 50 is hilarious. But the thing about him is... He don't drink. He don't drink, but he's a pro at controlling the situation. So he's fucked up but didn't act like he was fucked up. Yeah, exactly. He acted fucked up, but he had fun with it. Yeah, he controlled the situation. So he's fucked up but didn't act like he was fucked up. Yeah, exactly. He acted fucked up but he had fun with it.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Yeah, he controlled the situation. See, me, I put it all on the table in case when people watch like, damn, Perrin was fucked up. I'll be like,
Starting point is 01:53:53 yo, this is how I feel right now. I mean, I can picture him being like... He became a part of the show. No, he damn near
Starting point is 01:54:01 did stand-up at the set of Amazon. And not only that, like, I love the fact that when he pulled up, he damn near did stand-up at the show. And not only that, like, I love the fact that when he pulled up, he told the security to chill. Like, he told the security,
Starting point is 01:54:11 like, you good. And to me, that was the biggest compliment. He knows he's in good hands. That was bigger than even... Send one up to everybody. That was bigger than even him being on the show
Starting point is 01:54:19 to me. I got to admit, bro. All right. I've been ducking the show for a while. Okay, that's cool. Because I come to Miami with my brother. Right, right. And I record right next door and I'm admit, bro. Right. I've been ducking the show for a while. Okay, that's cool. Because I come to Miami with my brother. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And I record right next door. And I'm like, I can't go in there. He's going to fuck me up. But when I seen you yesterday, you were so happy. I was like, no, he's not going to do me dirty. He ain't going to do me dirty, man. He got you. No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:54:42 I am a happy guy. And then before I came in, the homie said, no tiger shit, bro. You're going to get fucked up. You're going to tell every story in the world. I said, nah, it was some true serum shit.
Starting point is 01:54:52 He's like, nah, no tiger shit, homie. No tiger shit. And then you guys really peer pressured me. I really give you guys props. I was like, man, you're like, if I don't at least take two shots of this shit,
Starting point is 01:55:03 I'm disrespecting the show. Let me just say something. Let me tell you what Puff did. Puff not only did this shit and was mad. He took this cup. Where's the cup? Right here. No, it's a different one.
Starting point is 01:55:14 We had a real dream champ's cup. He took it and he put every liquor that we had. We had mad liquor on the table. And he made the whole crew, everyone. Including Tiger Ball. Including Tiger Ball. Including Tiger Ball. He started with Tiger Ball. That's sickening.
Starting point is 01:55:28 You know, I would never do that again. I felt like I was drinking death. I think we joined the Illuminati after that. That was it. All I want to know is what did he do when he left here after that? He pulled us outside and said, we got to end this. Mad business. Mad business.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Mad business. He turned sober as soon as he said cut. He said, hold it up. Hold it that shit. Mad bitches, mad bitches. Puff was mad bitches. He turned sober as soon as it was in. He said, cut. He said, hold it up, hold it up, cut. He put us outside. Man, he's a professional partier. Yeah, no, no, no. I got a story of Puff.
Starting point is 01:55:53 I was with Wiz, and we hopped in his car. Well, Wiz hopped in the car with him. We were behind him. And Wiz had a big-ass joint burner. And Puff said, let me hit that shit. And he grabbed it and just threw that bitch out the window. I was like, man, we ain't going to jail for that shit But he hit it and threw it
Starting point is 01:56:06 Right He got his issue And then threw it Then we got to the club And tried to search it He said man You searching me You searching all of us
Starting point is 01:56:13 Man it's 2017 Puff is going to kill you guys We don't even need guns We'll just let some gas out And kill everyone Let us through And push his way through And no one got searched
Starting point is 01:56:21 I'm like wow Puffy is a beast He got in the club. Did you ever see Puff buy weed? Never. Nah. That nigga never buy weed, bro. What's up?
Starting point is 01:56:30 That nigga just smoke your shit. I'm telling you. Just think about it. Just think about it. How many times you been around, Diddy? Have you ever said, yo, Burn, here goes some bud? I never actually really been around him like that. Every time I've been, I've been kind of like in the background.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Listen, man, I noticed that. We probably did some crazy business if I would've actually got to talk to him. Rich niggas don't spend shit. I be noticing that. No, them niggas don't buy shit. Come on, nigga. I lied to you. Free everything, huh?
Starting point is 01:57:00 The richer the person is, the less that they take care of the bill. I don't know what the fuck that happens. I'm a nice rich guy. I pay for it. I buy shit. Everyone in my crew eats all the time. I pay for everything.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Yo, O'Burner, man, let me just tell you something. We've been trying to get you on this show for quite some time to give you your flowers. So just in case if you were confused about this show, I want to tell you that this show is about saluting people while they alive saluting people we are so tired of our culture that when We say we give a great obituary when a person dies. Yeah, but where's the obituary when you alive? It's very important, bro. You know say where's the obituary when you alive? God bless Nipsey. But you know, that love that he received after he was...
Starting point is 01:57:48 You think that love, he shouldn't have received that when he was alive? Nipsey was one of the coolest artists I've ever met. You think that if Nipsey would have knew that love that he would have not knew to protect himself more? It's because we don't do this. We don't big each other up.
Starting point is 01:58:03 We don't say, yo, you know what? Thank you. I appreciate what you do. I appreciate what you bring to the culture. We don't do that. So you know what we do? That's what happens with Nipsey. You want to hear something crazy?
Starting point is 01:58:14 Yes, no problem. Nipsey did, he actually did randomly do that to me. He told me he appreciated the rapping. He was like, bro, the rap's dope. You keep putting out classic album, I fuck with it. He gave me props for my music, and the last time I spoke to him, he mentioned, you did for the word cookies what Dre did for the
Starting point is 01:58:32 word chronic. You really did that shit, brother, because when people say cookies... Nipsey said that to you? That's super hot. Yes, bro, so they think about weed. Nipsey was one of the few artists that gave me props on my music and on my hustle. A lot of artists, they want the weed, you know what I mean? Nipsey, he gave me props on my music and on my, on, you know, my hustle. A lot of artists, they want the weed, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:58:45 And so Nipsey, he gave me props on the music and for the cookies. So salute to Nipsey, man. Recipe. And I think that's what's important. We need to make sure that we always show love to the different corners of hip hop.
Starting point is 01:58:57 Right. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm in a different, you know, different lane category. When we became podcasters, we were in a different corner, you know,
Starting point is 01:59:04 but you guys killed it. You guys are killing it with this podcast. And you're super independent. That's another thing that I respect about you. Man, we just really wanted to make this happen because of the phenomenal work you're doing. And you should be saluted. You know what I'm saying? Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:59:21 This is what our platform is. I interview artists from 8 to 80. You know what I'm saying this is this is this is what our platform is like i i interview artists from you know 8 to 80 you know what i mean it doesn't matter but as long as they are legend as long as they put in that time this is where we we we want to um you know big the up man i appreciate that yeah it goes longevity man and you say you had 34 i thought you said 16. 35. 35 fucking albums. La Plaza will be my 36th album. God, you're fucking dead. It's just... That's the peak catalog right there.
Starting point is 01:59:49 You know, I take my shit seriously, bro. Like, you know, I'm very militant on the way I do things, bro. Like, we've knocked out a good amount of records since I've been in Miami. I got two artists pulling up to the studio right now. One to knock out someone and knock out something else. Like I mentioned, I'm on a 6 a.m. flight out of here. And you're not saying these artists' names,
Starting point is 02:00:05 neither. No. That's very good. That's very good. My name dropped. I would rather let the game just see what we do, bro. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:13 So, at the end of the day, but it's going to be funny. I remember a driver picked me up one time, right? And he picked me up and I went down to hell. He was like,
Starting point is 02:00:23 yo, you know, Lauryn Hill lives right here and Redman lives right here. You know like, yo, you know Lauren Hill lives right here and Redman lives right here. You know what I told that nigga? I said, turn the fuck back around. And he said, what? I said, drop me the fuck back off.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I ain't going to be the next nigga you tell who ain't living. Hell no. So, yeah. Hell no. Drop me the fuck off, my brother. I'm not going to jump down the line and say you're a nigga.
Starting point is 02:00:42 And I knew Lauren had lived down there when I lived in Jersey. Lauren had lived to the left of me and Redman had lived to the right of knew Lauren had lived in Jersey. Lauren had lived to the left of me and Redman had lived to the right of me. But I never really went to their crib
Starting point is 02:00:51 or whatever. I knew it, but I didn't want to know it. Their privacy is their privacy. And when the driver said that to me,
Starting point is 02:00:58 he was trying to be cool. You know, Lauren lives right here. You know, Redman, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, homie,
Starting point is 02:01:04 turn the fuck around. Yeah, exactly. Turn the fuck around, homie. Drop. Yo, this is Redman. He would have spilled the beans on you. He would have told you next, man. Where you stay at? Yeah, exactly. Turn the fuck around, homie. Drop me the fuck off at my gate. I've had to jump out of plenty shady Ubers. I pop in, burn, what's up? Change location, drop in both of us. Next quarter.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Right on, homie. I just wanted to come grab a sandwich real quick. Much love. And I reorder, and then it's like him. I cancel. Reorder, it's him. Cancel. I have to call my assistant.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Have that motherfucker give me a lift. I'm not fucking with weirdos. When the old man pulls like, hey, man, cancel. Reorder, it's him, cancel. I have to call my assistant, have that motherfucker give me a lift. I'm not fucking with weirdos. When the old man pulls up, I'm happy, bro. I'm like, oh, thank God. But then they be like, butternut,
Starting point is 02:01:32 I like your product. It's fucked up. Smoking me out, man. It's fucked up. That was hot. Do you enjoy fame? Man, you know, I do and I don't.
Starting point is 02:01:49 It's cool to be able to preach your beliefs and have people listen. It's cool to think that I was a little kid that dreamed about everything we're doing right now, and I'm doing it. But when I take a piss in the bathroom and someone comes and taps my shoulder when I got my shit in my hand, I want to stab him in his neck. I don't want to go to jail. And so to the fans out there, when we're using the restroom, just don't touch me, bro, please. Because I might poke you in your neck, and I'll go to jail, and everything is worthless. So fame has its perks, and it has its downfalls. A fan came in while I was taking a shit one time.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Where is he going? Yeah, it's the worst. When did he go? He was taking a shit? Yeah, where he's going. He thought it was like a multiple joint, but it was a one-seater, one-seater show. And did he leave?
Starting point is 02:02:28 And he opened up. I was like, oh shit. Oh, did he open up? I'm like, oh, what's up, bro? What are we going to do right here? That's fucked up. Yeah, I never. I can't shit in public restrooms,
Starting point is 02:02:39 but the piss ain't bothering me. Listen, listen, my nigga. Listen, my first show. He about to shit right in this motherfucker. I did it here. Oh, I let it go in here. Listen, listen, my nigga. Listen. My first show. He about to shit right in this motherfucker's face. I did it here. Oh, I let it go in here. I let it go, nigga. I let it.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Let me tell you something. I shitted in a strip club in Miami. Why'd you do that? That's Herpes Synth Flix 3. But in my defense, I did three and a half years in jail, nigga. Like, shitting in a strip club is kind of clean in here. Yeah, I got it. I never looked at it like that.
Starting point is 02:03:12 You never put it in perspective. Yeah, I mean, and in jail, like, you know, you learn how to properly code the toilet. Like, you learn how to, you know, double up on your toilet tissue. You learn how to, like, your toilet tissue. You learn how to... You'll sit there and be comfortable in jail. Like, alright. Alright. So,
Starting point is 02:03:34 that's his Is that what you were saying when Huffington came in? You were like, alright. This cushion is comfortable. I knew this one nigga in jail, right? I knew this one nigga in jail, right?
Starting point is 02:03:47 And he ran, I don't know if I should say his name, but he ran the whole side of this one part of the jail. And he would never meet you unless you took a shit with him. I swear to God. I swear to God. So, like, if you had to meet with this nigga, like, you wouldn't go on the side. Because he knew the CEOs wouldn't film that.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Like, he knew. But one of your shits wasn't synchronized. No. So, you would have to meet with him. He would be on one side, and you know, in jail, they got the wires. Or the curtains. So, you're not actually seeing his face. So, you're sitting there like, yo, boom see me like yo boom. He's right here. All right
Starting point is 02:04:25 Yeah, you see sitting there like you look look I'm gonna bring home like like six joints to Billy Wade Like you know I want Billy Wade Because this is scary This is like this is. Because this is scary shit. This is real scary shit. This is big time. It's the shit. Yeah, so you have to. If you was transporting drugs, you have to tell him.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Because if you don't tell him. You can't take a shit. Yeah. Or you take a shit. Or you shit. This is transporting. You know how many strippers take a shit in the strip club though? Oh, God.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Damn, I ain't digging real like that. Dingo Berry's all in your lap, dude. I didn't even ask you to see. When I used to be in my pimping days, I'd go in the back to holler at the bitches in the locker room. Bitches were taking shits. It was sad. Wait, wait, what? Benzino here? Zeno here? What's up, yo?
Starting point is 02:05:23 Let's go! Benzino here? Zeno here? What's up, yo? What's good? What's good? God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. I was fucking done. And the cloud of smoke. It's so smoky back there. You can't see. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Whoa. That's it. Yeah, you can't see nothing back there. So, can you break down before we get up out here? Humboldt County. Yeah. The most infamous place. When you actually go to Humboldt, Yeah The most infamous place When you actually go to Humboldt
Starting point is 02:05:47 It's not even like It's not like This weed capital This place It's like Underground It's underground But it's not
Starting point is 02:05:56 Because all the towns Are funded by that So it's like The restaurants survive On the weed business The You know Every business in there
Starting point is 02:06:03 Was started Preschools were created For the kids Or the people Growing herb in there was started, preschools were created for the kids or the people growing herb in there and shit like that. Is it an agriculture area? That's what it is?
Starting point is 02:06:10 It's one of the best grow climates in the world. Grow some of the best herb in the world but it's underground in the sense that, yeah, you ain't just
Starting point is 02:06:16 going to see shit. You got to drive up crazy mountains and whatnot to get to where you're going. What is it called? The four corners or the four?
Starting point is 02:06:22 Emerald Triangle. Emerald Triangle. What is that? It's the area or four? Emerald Triangle. Emerald Triangle. Yeah. And what is that? It's just that it's the area that is where everyone's growing at. It's Mendocino and Humboldt and all that stuff right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Is Cookies grown there? Yeah. Okay. I got a really nice farm over there right now. Okay. This shit looks great. Okay. This shit's fire.
Starting point is 02:06:42 It's fire. But let me tell you what's cool about this, and this is a good thing to get into real quick. A lot of the small craft growers were put out of business in Humboldt because the big boys came and bought huge fields. Like Marlboro and shit like that, right? And, you know, being a real grower, you can't put cash in the bank, right? So you can't put cash in the bank, right? So you can't put cash in the bank. So there's these rules
Starting point is 02:07:07 that come out. You got to buy this property. You got to do this. You got to pay for this license. A lot of them couldn't really get those payments made. They can't just go pay in cash. So the big boys
Starting point is 02:07:14 came and did that. But point being is Cookies did a lot of contract grows with the growers that have the small boutique craft farms to keep them in business.
Starting point is 02:07:23 We're going to buy the herb back. We're going to give them shit that's relevant like Gary, London. Have them grow in business. We're going to buy their herb back. We're going to give them shit that's relevant, like Gary, London, have them grow on shit that will sell through and, you know, not waste their time. So we're keeping people in business
Starting point is 02:07:30 at the same time, too. So London Pound Cake, that's your strand as well? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, you can have the rest of this right here. Okay, I'll definitely take it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:41 I'll definitely take it. And I know you're a blunt guy, but we're going to get you on some of this. We're going to fuck with the vibes because we fuck with you, man. guy But we gonna get you We gonna fuck with the vibes Cause we fuck with you man And we wanna get you Like again We wanna say
Starting point is 02:07:50 How much we appreciate you How much you give into the culture And You're rich enough That you could've walked away From hip hop forever And if I was probably you I probably would've
Starting point is 02:08:00 I'm a foul nigga I'm a different nigga Man I love that shit That's how much he loves the culture But you stay in the culture And I respect that Yeah, I love that shit. That's how much he loves the culture. But you stay in the culture, and I respect that. Yeah, man, I love that shit, bro. And you're constantly working. Every time I've seen you, you've been working.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Yeah. It's not one time I've seen you anywhere, and you've not been working. Man, I'm about to go next door and work right now all night. God damn, let's make some noise for that. God damn. So we're going to end it on that note. Let's take a drop. Excuse me, take a picture and do a drop, and we good. And you know, a couple of people want to end it on that note. Let's take a drop. Excuse me. Take a picture and do a drop and we good.
Starting point is 02:08:26 And you know a couple of people want to take a picture with you. Take one for Boris. First birthday. Ah, I ain't going to laugh in a minute, y'all. I want to talk to y'all yandex. Have fun with it. Let's go. So listen closely because your attention is undivided.
Starting point is 02:08:43 Many in the past have tried to do what I did That podcast I did, platinum records I did Got us out the hood, it's good, you know what I did Two million dollar condo, made back for Hondo Did it myself, but had a sense like Rondo New Yorkers, British Knights and British Walkers Hugging the block like it's a bunch of stalkers I used to cook with the work, fuck it up and blame it on the club
Starting point is 02:09:02 He was Dominican, he thought I was, he showed me love But niggas choke under pressure, God Invited choking, he fooled it under pressure, God Peace out. I happen to be here and still relevant. It's evident. Some niggas clowns. It's like the president. So I'ma stay around positivity. All I got time for in my vicinity. Holy Trinity, Kennedy, Yosemite, Tiffany had epiphany through black nativity. Dramatically, mathematically, automatically, casually, battery, salary, lost gallery. I remember I bought bullets from jungle. Same night I got banned from the tunnel. But I don't like to talk about my past life. Cause my new life, new ice is too nice.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Now I's interview. Millions in a week. Since it dropped me and Fox ain't speak. I say that with love like a sister. I say that with love because I miss her. And me and Poe don't still talk about the war we fought. And still getting money just off the war we fought. Nicki went to Joe.
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