Drink Champs - Episode 172 w/ Aries Spears

Episode Date: August 29, 2019

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On this episode the champs sit down and chop it up with Actor & Stand Up Comedian Aries Spears! In this episode we talk about the current state of comedy, the goals for most comedians, his impact in the game on & off the stage, & more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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like the gum under the table with the dirty Timberlands on the side of your mouth. This guy has been doing standup, had his first gig at 14 or some shit like this. This man is still around. He was a baby. He's still around. He's been on Def Comedy Jam

before you even knew what Def Jam was. Ooh. He's been out here, he's been from Jerry Maguire to all type of different movies to Mad TV, one of the longest running cast members. When you think of King of Comedy, I think of him. And in case you didn't know, he also makes the best impressions in the world.

In case you don't know, I'm talking about Eric Spears, make some sense. Now the crazy thing about you is a lot of people say they have rich history in comedy, right? Yeah. You actually have rich history in comedy. Like, I mean, from the beginning, like, you know, going, like, did you have your first gig at 14 or was it 16?

I started at 14. I started at 14. So, what was that, comedic or was it 16? I started at 14. I started at 14. So what was that? Comedic? It was being, or just being entertaining? You know, straight comedy. I started, you know, I came up through the ranks of Jersey and New York. Right.

With Bill Bellamy. Right. This is in clubs? 14 in clubs? Yeah, yeah. Tribeca in Newark. Indigo Blues. Peppermint Lounge.

East Orange. I'm so sorry. I got to come back. Your first show was at Uptown Comedy Club. Was that true? In Harlem, yeah. That was my first show ever. Yeah. That's why when I read your shit, I'm like, I gotta come back. Your first show was at Uptown Comedy Club. Was that true? In Harlem, yeah. That was my first show ever. That's why when I read your shit, I'm like,

are they playing with me? Like, my first show I ever had was at Uptown Comedy Club. And I read that about you, I was like, holy shit. But isn't the other one a little colder? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, come on. You know you know how to pop bobbies, nigga. Come on.

Yeah, see if that one is colder. But so go ahead. Yeah, I first went to the improv with my mother and my sister back when you had to draw numbers out of a hat. So we all put in numbers, none of us got it. So I'm feeling deflated, somebody pulled my mom's aside and said, you know, they got Uptown Comedy Club in Harlem. So we jumped on the train, went up there.

And was it by the Cotton Club? I can't remember that. Okay, I remember. What's the numbers though? When you're pulling numbers it by the Cotton Club? I can't remember. Okay. I remember. What's the numbers, though? When you're pulling numbers, what does that mean? Just draw numbers in a hat. So, they just... So, you have it on Beyonce? You know, open mic now.

Open mic, okay. Yeah, so I didn't get that. So, I said, go down to the Uptown. Right. And, you know, I really didn't even have material in. I just would do, like, impressions. So, I did, like, James Brown. So, you started doing impressions from the gate?

From the gate. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah you started doing impressions from the get. From the get. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Eddie Murphy was my, yeah, that was my, I'm an 80's baby, so I grew up watching Eddie on SNL. Right. And Eddie was doing the impressions thing. My first impression ever was Louis Armstrong, because my mother's a jazz blues singer.

So moms and pops would play that when pops was getting it in. So when I heard potato, potato, you say tomato, I knew pops was blowing moms' back out. So, you know, I'm an 80s baby. I grew up on TV, so Eddie was my first heavy influence. So I just went to the uptown, and I did like three impressions doing Pepsi commercials.

Wow. And, you know, the bug bit me. I killed it, and I've been in it ever since man So yeah, so um, I'm sorry I'm jumping around but I'm gonna get straight to it because it was first of all Yeah, here's what I gotta say. I look about you. Okay? You're on time and you don't super late, but this nigga runs like a Jewish man. Time is money. I'm going to tell you something. It was different for me because when I became a CEO, I

realized that that was one of the things that these people don't want is to waste your time. So, I always be on time. But let me get back to you, right? Because one of the illest things that I do, I watched you all day today, so literally you've been on my mind this whole day, right? One of the things that you said

that was very interesting to me. You said when a person does stand up, that's supposed to be all you. It's supposed to be one-on-one with the audience. Yeah. And there's certain people who have help. Do you still feel that way?

Or is it because... The best ones don't have because let me just tell you why i watched like three of your joint you literally had me in tears thank you so i'm sitting around like damn so i could understand your frustration when i heard you say it at first yeah i didn't understand until i see your shit and i said i can understand how you bust your ass yeah when you. You literally, you told a bitch hot pussy tastes like cold french fries. I'm going holy moly, holy moly, how you going to tell somebody that?

Like, holy moly, my man. So, I'm just saying. So... Are you talking about ghost writing? Yeah, yeah, because... Basically, right? So, I look at it like R&B, right? Like, but then when I heard your point of view

and you say man if I go out there and I'm busting my ass like are you expect that is that something you still feel or yeah I mean cuz it's like look I can't and maybe that's a question for you to answer maybe it's different in the rap game because I know some rappers have ghost right right no but I don't like that I know for comedy the best motherfuckers is you. Because every comic wants to come out and have their joke

be a grand slam home run. That's always the intention. But that's not always the case. From the time you say hello to the time you say goodnight and everything in between, we want every joke to be a Mike Tyson punch from the 80s. Everything is thrown with bad intentions. Not Mike now who's smoking weed.

Not Mike now. I just take Mike right now. He's smoking weed? I don't know, Mike. I don't know. We all want everything to be... Michael still fuck y'all up. Don't get it twisted.

Don't get it twisted. But you know, as you sit there as an artist and you mold that piece of clay, you mold that piece of clay You're looking for perfection You're looking for your piece to be the Mona Lisa And it's like if someone comes along And gives you Like sometimes when you do a joke You might not have it where it's perfect yet

You're missing a key ingredient Whether it's a facial expression A physical move A one liner And if somebody comes to you and goes Hey do this Do this face Add this little thing right here And that's the difference between where your shit was here to now here. That's you

Or that's them. That's the steroids. I might just gave you the steroid to make you do what you got to do So for you to be able to take on your own accord and create that shit with no help to where you got a classic, that's you. You the artist. You the only one that did that. But if somebody gives you that key ingredient to make your gumbo the winning gumbo, is it you?

That's what I'm saying. So it's either or, wrong or right? I mean, it depends on the... From an artist's standpoint. On the individual. It's on the individual. Right, right. You know, what you're striving for.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, when I talked about, you know, the Kevin Hart situation, my mother was like, well, you know, Richard Pryor had Paul Mooney. Correction. Paul Mooney wrote for Richard Pryor on the Richard Pryor show. Right. That's a TV show.

Got it. That's not stand-up. Right. For a TV show, there's a lot of parts in that. It's an ensemble cast. You need writers. TV of parts in that. It's an ensemble cast. You need writers. It's TV, but for stand-up, that's boxing. That's you.

Ain't nobody in that ring but you. That's how it should be. When you said it, I really suggest people go and look up what you do. Because the thing about it is, I got to look at the it is like you know I got to look at the comments because this is what I got to do because I'm only gonna

cut you problem but even I even had somebody saying the YouTube comments when I said that okay well dog if you look at the credits for our raw it says Robert Townsend and can I be wins they didn't write a stand-up they wrote the skit in the beginning right kick them him in the ding ding. Thank you. That's what they did. And he wrote his own stand up. And even Paul Mooney said in an interview, I don't write for Richard. Richard was a genius nigga.

I didn't write for Richard. That nigga was always a genius. When you watch Richard, I would watch Richard go, nigga that's genius. Richard did not need my help I already nigga stop with that god damn

that nigga is scaring me you know niggas don't like that white men made noises like that yeah

one of the craziest lines I heard you say was you said everybody is a little bit racist now I agree with that but I want to correct the statement because racist

implies that you have some type of power so I want to say everybody's prejudice yes everyone's prejudice you look up the real definition of racism and that's a poem only poem when he spoke on that and said you know when you look up racist by definition I can't be raised so you can't be because it's about power. So, you're right, yes. So, when I heard you say that and I'm so sorry to my people, but if I was to you know,

go outside right now and I was to see an Asian person get into a car accident, it doesn't matter who the other person is. You're talking strategy to the Asian person. I was automatically like, I think it's that person. Like, I'm just saying

I have never seen an agent actually get into an accident, but from what I've heard, I think that they're not good drivers. Because, now that's a stereotype. That's a stereotype. But stereotypes exist because there's truth to them.

Because there's truth to them. Because I love watermelons and fried chicken, I didn't go live. That's what I'm saying, every single person but there's a good amount of numbers. Of course to them. There's absolutely truth to them. Because I love watermelons and fried chicken. I ain't going to lie. Every single person, but there's a good amount of numbers. Of course. Of course.

You know, I always tell people, it's like, look, do all black women have fat asses? No. I've seen black women with asses flat as notebook paper. It's like, nigga,

there's white tigers in the wild. They do exist, but that's not the norm. Most black women have big asses, but white tigers exist. Let me spray some cardamom on that. Yo.

So, I really agree with that because, like, it's certain... The white tigers? No, it's stereotypes. There's certain stereotypes that's 100% dead on. You know what I'm saying? Like, us liking chicken.

Like, Latinos and blacks. How many of you would be funny without stereotypes? Absolutely. Let's just be honest chicken. Like Latinos and blacks. Comedy wouldn't be funny without stereotypes. Absolutely. Let's just be honest about it. Latinos and blacks. We fucking love chicken. That's why people love chicken too, but it's more of a passion with us.

That's why we keep hot sauce in our glove compartment. Yeah, that's real. That's why people don't keep it. They don't keep it with hot sauce, nigga. That's very true. Y'all keep hot sauce in your glove compartment? Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Frank, are you a Franks guy? Who come to hot sauce? Oh, compartment? Absolutely! I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Franks, are you a Franks guy? We can have hot sauce. Oh, that spicy ketchup nigga, step up. Oh! Tabasco is hot sauce.

No, no, no, no. You a spicy, spicy ketchup nigga. Tabasco's whack, man. Tabasco's whack. Tabasco's hard. Tabasco's whack. I like the Cholula, man. I like the Spanish shit.

Tapatio, tapatio. What's the LA shit? Stop it. What's the LA shit? That's it, tapatio. No, the sounds Asian. I like this Spanish shit That's it top of teal no of the other there sounds Asian the um is it oh no you thinking of the They come in that creek that clear bottom yeah clear bottle with the green tip. That ain't necessarily hot sauce. It is, but it isn't. It's LA hot sauce.

LA? It's like tires. I only see that shit in LA. And you live in LA. So you were born in Jersey. Is that correct? New York. Then you moved to Jersey. Then you moved to LA. Jersey, then LA. Jersey, then LA. And now as you moved to LA, you were in the business,

correct? Yeah. So how different was that coming from the East Coast like you still look like a straight-up New York dude I believe yeah I believe on but I moved out to LA I'm surprised you have about the sweat rag you always have a sweat rag you know a lot of New Yorkers look down on LA but when I moved there You see I'm on point. You see I'm on point. You're my man Craig Robinson. Always have a straight line. You know, a lot of New Yorkers look down on L.A., but when I moved there, I was 18, 17. So everything became mine for the first time. First piece of pussy, first house, first car, my first independence. So L.A. has become my home because I grew up there in a sense of becoming a man.

When I was in Jersey in New York I was living in my mama house so I was still under her roof and her rules and regulations and New York we got Puerto Rican and LA you got Mexican I like your Mexican impression too and listen I love Spanish women my two kids baby mother's Puerto Rican and you know they you know Mexican girls they And, you know, Mexican girls, they cool, but, you know, them bitches be heavy

with the drawing the face on. Oh. You know what I'm saying? What you talking about? Makeup. Okay. Cream your own eyebrows and shit. You know what I mean?

So, Puerto Rican women and Boniquas have a different kind of sexy. You know what I mean? My heart is always attached to East Coast, but I love LA, man. I do. Man, I love LA too, man. Let me ask you something.

You said at one point that white people are actually the drink champs, like the white people. Oh yeah. Like they drink different. Well they drink to get blasted. And they tell you that. Dude, you can't fucking wait to get knee-ridden. You wasted.

Like they drink with the sole purpose of being knocked the fucking black out. Niggas, we drink to get nice. You know what I like what you said? We got to stay. Because I got a white friend too, right? We all do. But let me just tell you, this was the one time

I felt like white privilege. One day we were walking and I'm walking with him obviously. And we're walking through somewhere I know we're not supposed to walk through because there's nothing but police there. So the police officer says, hey guys you got to get out of there. He said, what law officer says 1444 says that we can... I looked I said, I'm with him. The officer looked at me like I know you know better.

I'm with him. Yo it's a weird climate because you see all the clips on YouTube where some brothers stand their ground with the cops and they say, nigga, give me your badge number. And they break down what, I know what the law is. Hats off to you brothers, but that's a brave, stupid mistake. I understand. I'm not trying to be on no-y'all punk shit.

It's nice that you can state the law And you stand your ground But them niggas will kill you So you playing roulette With your life You know what I'm saying Right It's like we've been

New to law We know the law Better than anybody Right But that's a dangerous game Nah very dangerous Very dangerous So

What is the best thing About comedy Besides you Releasing your pain Because that's what I started to notice. What I started to do today was, obviously, I started to search you. And when I search you, other names come up. So I start to look and I start to notice that.

Is it that you guys have to go through some type of dramatic thing to write something funny about it? Or it just comes naturally when you write your material I think the best ones it just comes naturally you know like anything else I don't care what kind of artist you are sports right rapping singing dancing comedy right the best shit is organic when it flows as Michael Jordan would say you know let you know don't chase the game let it come to you you know I'm saying relax saying, relax. And I mean, comedy's moist now. You know, we in a moist era. You gotta watch what you say.

Well, they have to watch what they say. I'm Floridian with my comedy, I stand my ground. You said Floridian? Listen, and I'm playing a weird game because while everybody's looking to conform to the status quo, because everybody's worried about the climate of sensitivity, I really believe that this shit is going to be a backlash and it's going to come back around. When it does, I want people to be able to say, he never wavered.

It was always him. While some people will go, well, such and such seems different now because they're trying to match the climate. I don't ever want to waver. It's a pendulum. It's going one way too far. I see Marlon Wayans, he said he doesn't care about people's feelings.

As long as he's funny, he don't care if he hurts somebody's feelings in the process because everyone's so sensitive right now. And the thing about it, you feel like it's handcuffs on comedy because of that? I mean, I know you're

outside the box. I think it's handcuffs on comedy because of that? I mean, I know you're outside the box. Right. I think it's handcuffs on comics if you let it be. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to let it be because I just... Well, first of all, you know, Hollywood don't like me much anyway. So what the fuck I look like trying to song and dance and do jazz hands for approval I don't have to begin with.

Right. So, you know, I'm going to continue to do it how I do it, and hopefully, knock on wood, it comes around. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to switch my shit up so I can fall in line with everybody else. That's corny to me. You know what I'm saying? But what he's saying seems like it's beyond Hollywood.

It's like becoming the status quo of the politically correctness bullshit. Listen, man, I look at it like Prohibition era. You know, this is America. Anybody that knows the history of this country, Americans are arrogant. We don't like to be told what we can and can't do. So it's like Prohibition era. You know, this is America. Anybody that knows the history of this country, Americans are arrogant. We don't like to be told what we can and can't do. So it's like prohibition.

It's like people want to drink. They want to have a good time. They don't want nothing to take away from having a good time. So if being not politically correct and saying wild shit because that's how you feel provides an entertainment for an audience, people are going to want that because they're going to get tired of being told off political correctness and it's going to backlash. And when it does, like I said, I want to be one of the people

that they go, also, you know, he stood his ground. He didn't fake it. Because I see one special you said that, you said, I say the N word,

I say the F word and the C word. Yeah, I say all that shit. I make fun of midgets. Right. I ain't going to put that. The midget shit was hilarious. Yeah, nigga. I mean, it seemed that comedy would be the pinnacle what it's supposed to be mostly the US stands for no you know what is a name a

group of mines called the retards but I was very scared yes we're called the total retard no no no first of all I was in a game called the retard I was growing up that's a fact so when I became famous I like this is the dopest name in the world let me just go with it but then I was like damn or politically correctness until you said wait the game worried about politically correctness I mean it was me I was no money so yeah so I was like yeah and I was like you know what certain people are offended but I didn't mean it how they how they was taking it right I meant it and like you you know, we're retarded.

Not that retarded, this retarded. Yeah, not that. I actually do a joke about the retarded. You're a terrible ballsy with peanut butter? Yeah, yeah. At some point I said, you know, how black people keep hot sauce in their gov compartment. It's like, nigga, I keep Skip Peanut Butter in case I run into a retarded bitch. You know what I mean?

I smear the peanut butter and jack off like, nigga, I keep Skip Peanutbutter in case I run into a retarded bitch. I smear the peanutbutter and jack off like, bitch, this PB&B and J's gonna be epic. This peanutbutter blowjob gonna be epic, nigga. You know, get your dick licked by a retarded bitch and put peanutbutter on the dick. With that type of action, shit. Oh, man. Big up, big up to everybody.

Big up to them, big up to them. Everybody handicapped. We're not talking about handicapped. Here's the thing, here's what's funny about it. When I've had people show up at my shows that are mentally challenged, retarded, they love it. They want to be made fun of just like it. They don't want to be looked at as victims. I've had them come up and go, man, this is funny. They fucking love it. They love it.

Yeah. Nobody wants to be in seclusion from, you know, being a part of what's deemed everybody else. You know, fuck that shit. Is there such thing as going too far on comedy? Yeah. But like Dave Chappelle said, you don't know where the line is

until you cross it. You know what I'm saying? So you got to cross it. I do a joke right now where I make fun of Dr. King getting assassinated because really he was on the balcony after he was eating pussy in the motel room.

I wasn't going to say that. So, you know. But when you hear the joke. I did hear King was, hold on. I did hear King was out here slaying. He was going in. He was going in.

He was on the back being like, oh, that's what's going on. I'm trying to deny it. Blackness trying to deny it. No, that's historic. It's historically known. He went in. Yeah, my blackness trying to deny it. Like, you know, to this day, I know I'm changing the subject.

Let me say something. Here's what's great. OJ ain't do it. Who? OJ did not do it. Here's what's great about comedy. OJ did not do it, my nigga. I hung out with OJ ain't do it OJ did not do it OJ did not do it Listen

I hung out with OJ I've been around Accident murderers I've been around Purpose murderers OJ ain't got it in him I don't know if it's My blackness taking over

It's a little bit of you black It's a little bit of you But I swear to God I look at the juice And I be like He ain't But now This one does make me, he does make me. Come on, man, he told us, basically.

Stop, don't say that. Yeah, he really did. He told us. He really did. Stop, stop, stop, stop these guys. Don't be spreading this. You told him you were original member of Murda, he said, yeah. Yeah, but that's, listen, that's the thing about OJ, he plays on it.

No, he definitely plays on it. You're right, you're right, he doesn't play on it. I ain't gonna lie, that's some bold nigga. That's some bold shit, he definitely plays on it. You're right. I ain't gonna lie to you. That's a bullshit. That's a bullshit. Like, I didn't notice that. I don't think he did it. I seriously don't think he did it.

No, you really don't think he did it? No, I really don't think he did it. I really don't think Michael Jackson did it neither. I mean, why do we have to go there? But let me ask you, are you really saying him and Michael didn't do it because that's your blackness? I never met Michael. I met OJ. And there was a certain thing. Let me ask you, are you really saying him and Michael didn't do it because that's your blackness? I never met Michael.

I met OJ. There was certain things. Now he could be a great actor. He did do Naked Gun. All three of them. All three of them. That wasn't the best being moved. To me, it was.

You understand. To me, that's a masterpiece. To me, that's a masterpiece, my brother. To me. But I didn't come up... I know people who have that bad gene in them, that bad searches. And, you know, I'm trying to look at it. It's either he's a great actor or he really don't have that in him to him. Now, I can't say that he, like the person that did it didn't call him.

The snap is different. Didn't call him after and say, I did it. And he said he held it down from there. But him actually doing it, I just can't see it. You think R. Kelly did it? Oh yeah, R. Kelly did it. Let me tell you why, let me tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why.

There's a white on this? Huh? I'm gonna tell you why. He on video! I also did a record with R. Kelly. I'm gonna be honest, I'm telling the truth. It's the only record that I got that sold over 10 million. I have no other record that sold...

So, I kicked my plaque. Okay? Your plaque is dirty. It is dirty. I actually ordered another one because I lost it, right? So, anyway. So, when I went to record with R. Kelly,

it's actually the same story that Puff Daddy had. He was actually playing basketball. I'm in Chicago, and I'm like, I didn't feel important. Like, what the fuck am I waiting around watching this grown-ass man play fucking basketball? So, he said, yo, if you want, you can just go to the studio and lay the verse. So, I went to the studio, and in each studio, I saw a bed. Mind you.

Bunk beds? No, just a bed in the studio just wondering that's abnormal niggas ain't have no beds in no fucking studio but let me get some money the thing was this I just came from Bearsville Bearsville was a place where you you be secluded for two months and you had actual um you know bedrooms in the studio because you slept there so it never rung the alarm to me until I watched the documentary when I watched the documentary

and he was like each girl had beds in their studio I was like oh shit I didn't saw that like I didn't literally saw that but that's the reason

why I believe and I actually did see him eat somebody's ass what? on video oh that was at the

on the age girl? yeah yeah didn't we all see that shit? I mean that shit that shit was the first Netflix wasn't it? What? On video Oh That was at the Unaged Girl? Yeah yeah Didn't we all see that shit? I mean that shit That shit was the first Netflix wasn't it? Like that was the first Netflix and chill

It wasn't net But it was some flick But um So yeah I believe Oh I did it I believe that But um

The Juice I don't believe did it And Mike I don't believe did it You think that's my blackness? A little bit Because listen Black people We you know We protect our own Especially our and Mike, I don't believe, did it. You think that's my blackness? A little bit. Because black people,

we're inclined to protect our own, especially our heroes because they tear our heroes down so much. So it's an instinct, an internal instinct to want to protect. I heard you said you didn't believe Bill until 89. First, 82, you... And then 94, you said,

damn, Bill, you fucked up. With the number of amount of people or the year? I'm just playing with the numbers. Yeah, you know he did 94 you said damn bill you fucked up With bill cosby did for black people because of the cosby show is such you know an accomplishment The hospital is in good map on a sophisticated level So you know again there's an automatic loyalty to that and he predicted Brooklyn would be gentrified Yes, cuz he was in a nice part of Brooklyn. No one knew what part of Brooklyn that was.

Listen, people get caught up in celebrities so much that they act like celebrities are immune from having sicknesses. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got to be

a regular person to have a sick fetish or to be fucked up. It's just them niggas got money. But they got fame. So what was he doing? He was slipping Mickey's? Bitch,

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join us on dope labs where we break it all down into the lab like only we can listen to dope labs on iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts you know what's funny about the bill situation not to make fun of it, but the thing about it was he denounced hip-hop. He did the shit out of hip-hop. He denounced comedians who cursed and used the N-word. So it's crazy that when it came back to it,

that's what he needed in his fucking corner. He needed hip-hop. A famous female comedian told me a story that Bill Cosby actually tried to shut Def Comedy Jam down. He tried to talk to D.L. He didn't want, and he had said

that he did some radio interview with D.L. Hewley, and he even had his people get a hold of the tape, but he didn't want Def Jam to happen because of all the profanity, and he was worried that black people was going to make us look bad with all the pussy jokes. Meanwhile, he's slipping niggas some shit. Hey, hypocrites, man.

He's slipping in some... The irony of it. That's crazy. You don't think there's no truth to that conspiracy that he was about to buy some network? When I hear black people say that, I think that's absolutely ridiculous.

Listen, people go, well, he couldn't afford NBC. Listen, they weren't selling it. It wasn't enough for sale. He could have afforded it, but they're not selling it. White people are not giving away power. And to be able to project how black people are seen all over the world from an image, that's power. And they're not going to give him that kind of power. They let Harvey pay his way out.

Of course. Harvey Weinstein pay his way out. And this was shit from last year. Right. And Bill's shit is from 20 years ago. They got him doing time. They do niggas dirty, nigga. You know what I mean?

Even rich niggas. Well, even rich niggas. Even rich niggas. I do it. Nigga, they will lock you up with your money. They do niggas dirty nigga, you know, even rich niggas or even rich They will lock you up with your money Comedy is is is is is such a Contact sport I didn't realize it until I'm actually going through the, you guys damn near taking the shit of rappers right now.

Like, you niggas got beef with each other. Like, you know, I don't really know about that. I mean, you know, there's small little things here and there, but I've never had a beef really with anybody. You know, I've been opinionated about shit and people take that as beef, but I've never had a beef really with anybody, I've been opinionated about shit, and people take that as beef, but I've never officially

said, oh I don't like this cat, or I have a problem with this cat, like I said, I'm just opinionated. And motherfuckers be so delicate now, that it's almost like having an opinion means you're a hater. Not going with the grain means you a hater. And it's like, why am I wrong just because I don't agree with your assessment of this person? No, you can have an opinion

sometimes, but sometimes it just can't be publicly because anytime you have your voice of opinion publicly, then a person can publicly react to that opinion and then it just keeps going on.

So sometimes if I have something bad to say about someone or if I don't like something about somebody, I just don't say it because I know they're going to take it as I'm hating

as opposed to having that opinion. I know, but I think take it as I'm hating as opposed to having that opinion. I know, but I think that's unfortunate that you should be, you have to shun your thoughts because you're worried about being labeled a hater. You know, I think that's one of the most overused words in the world. It's like, you know, if it'd be one thing

if I said, oh, this person is garbage as a comedian. And again, I've never said that about anybody that I've been accused of saying that about. I just had a difference of opinion. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I can recognize the genius of the comic, but he don't necessarily make me laugh.

I'm not saying he's a bad comic, he just don't do it for me, but I see the genius. I see the genius in it, you know? So how about you? Because we've heard your opinions on people getting ghost written for but how about you has people come to you and say yo ari i want you to write this for me i want you to help out with this this and then what's your stance on that yeah yeah and i say no uh yeah man because i can't be your voice you know what I'm saying Plus For me to write for you

I'm too busy Going to be thinking about How I would do it To make it as funny As it could be And what I might give it You might not be comfortable with You know what I'm saying

I can make a suggestion And if you follow it That's on you So you're saying that To a stand up Yeah stand up Okay But if a person comes to you

For a movie script That's something different That's different But stand up You want it to come from the... Yeah, man, because again, like I said, my heroes in life, Michael Jordan, Ali, Tyson, and I try to approach my comedy like Tyson in the 80s. Like I said, I want every joke to try to knock your head into the nosebleeds.

I don't want no soft spots in my set. When I look at some of the greatest rappers, you buy a Nas album, a Jay-Z album, a Jadakiss album from track one to 22. You might get one track or two that you go, that's all right. But the rest, you're like, yo, there's no weak spots. So I don't want to be one of these comics who come out and do an hour.

You go, 15 minutes was great. The other 10, eh. And then the next five was kind of strong. I want from hello to goodnight for you to be checking your tear ducts and you're getting an ab workout. I'm trying to destroy it. You was killing

this. So let me ask you, what do you like more? Being on film? Like recording movies and things like that? Or being on stand-up? You know, they all got their blessings and their curse. From a stand-up,

from an ego standpoint, you know, nothing is more gratifying than being a comedian because that's all you. You're the producer, the writer, director, you're the star.

You do a movie and a TV show, them is the writer's words. Sometimes it's the director's vision that they give you in terms of direction. Sometimes it's a producer's call. Right. You know, so it ain't all you. Right.

Which can be a good thing too because it's like a team sport. You playing off your man. Right. And if you got a good teammate who knows how to hit you with the no look or the whip-wop, you know, and make your game better.

Right. Nothing's better than doing a scene with an actor and this motherfucker's so tight, you got to tighten up your game. So now you're not, you're on the same team, but you're competing. You know what I mean? Because he's like, okay, I got to step my shit up, because this nigga's a beast. With stand-up, it's you alone, man.

Rise or fail, you know? You alone. Did you feel that in Mad TV? Like, what was that? Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, the crew I had, again, put it in basketball terms, we was that absolutely you know the crew i had uh again if we put it in basketball terms we was like a championship team you know we knew we knew where we had to be we

knew each other's weaknesses each other's good spots we knew where the person liked the ball so we just knew how to play off for each other in such a strong way that it made for a great show unfortunately you know we wasn't saturday Night Live. Damn near, damn near, damn near. Was it a vibe that you that was like your opposite, like your rival in a sense? We were their competition, but the fact of the matter is, no matter how good

we were, it's like, you know, the NFL versus the CFL. You know, Saturday Night Live is big leagues. That's NFL, man. And, you know know the people that watched us Would say you guys are way better than them But we ain't them You know what I'm saying

They was the bully on the block No matter how bad they were Let me big up to Sean Papers real quick We smoking these out I ain't even smoking nigga I'm gonna ask I have some discussion for you. Oh, did you?

Yes, yes. I did the smoke box with B-Real twice and I tapped out. Oh, okay. You ain't going to lie. Nigga. You got the smoke chance with you? No, no, I don't. But let me big up to B-Real because the smoke box is very ill, but I'm going to be honest.

I don't like hot boxing. Even when I'm in my whip and I smoke, I got to roll the window down a little bit. So, big him up. He does that shit every motherfucking day. You know what I'm saying? Every motherfucking day. So, one thing you said, you quoted a statistic. You said Obama had 97% of the black vote.

Yeah. I didn't know that. Well, yeah. It was pretty much up there. It was pretty much all of it. Wow. Yeah. The ones who know that. Well, yeah, it was pretty much up there. It was pretty much all of it. Wow. Yeah, the ones who didn't vote for him was the coon niggas. Right.

People that just didn't vote. Right. No, it was the coon niggas, though. If he'd had the coon niggas, too, he'd have been in a hundred. Right, right. That's crazy. That's crazy, man. And you also said you don't smoke weed with Asians.

Yeah. That's specific as a motherfucker. You're so damn specific with that. Let me tell you something. Some of that shit is, you know, it's entertainment. You know what I mean? I would smoke weed with Asians. He was looking at your MySpace page. I would smoke weed with Asians, but the punchline lies in the stereotype. You know what I mean?

In the eyes. In the eyes. Because, you know, I don't want to smoke with somebody that looks like they did and blow my eye. And their eyes is three quarters closed. Now, I've heard you say this before, and I'm very, very curious to actually hear you say this in person. You said that you thought you were blackballed at one point. I still do. Now, for people who's

not aware of what blackball means, right? Can you describe what blackball is and then not only that, say why you felt you would be blackballed. Blackball is when they put you in the book, you know what I'm saying?

Where it's like, you know, it don't matter how talented you are. If you're in the book, they're not fucking with you. And listen, do I technically know for a fact that I am? Of course not. Right. And every now and then, you know, I book a job here and there. So maybe I'm not. But I don't think I'm on the top of the list when it comes time to cast for certain projects or whatever project. And that's partly because, you know, again, I'm opinionated, man.

And I tend not to hold back. And, you know, I'm not out here trying to maliciously say things for effect. I'm just telling you how I feel, telling you what I think, and giving it to you honestly. And I talk a lot about racing interviews. You know, when I've done a lot of my Vlad TV interviews, the thing I said about the white people in the Jedi mind trick. You know, when you read the comments, white folks, the mayonnaise people don't be happy, man. You know what I mean? Because that truth is tough.

But was it a specific moment where you was like, you know what? I feel like I'm blackballed from this moment. No, not really a specific moment. It's just a vibe that I feel. Well, actually, here, let me tell you. Kevin Hart, I think he still has a cartoon coming out where, you know, that thing in his joke where he goes, all right, all right, all right. And in the cartoon, I audition for the role of his dad.

You know, so Kevin has his own voice, obviously he's gonna do it like himself. And I put a little flavor into what my interpretation of what his dad would be. And I had hosted the Avian Porn Awards, I think was it last year, I think? You hosted the Avian Porn Awards? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wait, wait, is that a porn? A porn a pre-party in LA and my mom how do you get chosen for that though they just called they call my agent I was like we want him to host the point okay maybe having top- shelf musical guests I mean the one that I did No it's you it's a huge production I just wonder how you came up with But at the pre-porn party My manager came up to me I gotta tell you the cartoon you auditioned for Kevin wanted you

Everybody wanted you You was on the fourth and goal And then the president of Fox said who? Oh not that guy So you know And Kevin as powerful as he is he can't override the head of Fox So the president was just no not that guy You know what I mean? So yeah

And why would you think that would come from like because again shit that I say Because you have like a personal relationship when you told him to suck your dick personally right you can't pinpoint what you said that might have come you ain't tell the president of fox someone dead no no no no no that would be dave chapelle's been keeping it real goes wrong okay okay um nah man i just again when you look you could go through my whole vlad tv catalog you could have said anything it could have been yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so you know and even on social media, you know, and I'm trying to get better with it. But when I read comments about race and white people say certain things that rub me wrong or it's just so fucking outlandish, you know, I go at them. You know what I'm saying? And even when black people, anybody racist as far as that concern, says something wild about me instead of just going,

let me ignore it. I turn in the Scarface balcony scene. Fuck you, you fucking with the best. I'm turning that nigga. Maybe that's a detriment. Maybe I need to stop doing that. But you've been in big productions from like

Mad TV to Jerry Maguire. Where was a moment where you thought that, you know what, these people are leaning on me and they don't want to see me succeed? And is that when you went stronger towards stand-up? Because they can't control your stand-up. Well, no, I mean, but stand-up was the first thing. That was the bread and butter. So that was always going to come first. And again, that's why I'm saying it's tricky.

Maybe I got this boogeyman imagination going on, because again, there's not any one specific thing, or there's nothing I can point to and go, for sure I know that's the case. But my spidey sense is tingling, nigga. And something just feels...

You know, because for me to have been in this game for as long as I've been, and for me, and I don't want to come off like I'm, you know, on some cocky shit, but for me to bring it the way I've brought it, there's no fucking reason why I shouldn't be bigger than what I am. And I know that sounds vain, but I don't mind saying that because I'm with a rapper, and y'all are the most vain niggas in the game. I wish comics had a license to be that vain

and it still be acceptable. Only rappers have a green light to say, I'm the best, and it flies. No one else can do that. No, I mean, comedy is slowly but surely reminding me more and more of hip-hop every day because there's certain components that it is it's very hip-hop like before it it it wasn't hold on hold on now hold on man listen we trying to get drunk hold on now you start with me too what the i do

me too yeah but so um but one thing i I went to a Mike Epps show One night And he invited me So we went back there We bought a couple of bottles We went backstage And the one thing That I did notice

Is that you guys Actually stay in You guys own rooms I don't Oh okay I see And this is why I'm telling you

Like I'm I'm just cut different You know what I'm saying Like And what's so funny is the industry, however they see me, whatever that perception is, anybody outside of that

that's not in the Hollywood world, like regular Joe Blows, will tell you I'm the coolest, most humble nigga in the world. Like I'm not going to the comedy club and hiding out in the green room until it's showtime. You're going to see me amongst the people.

Part of the reason that is it's strategic. I'm casing the joint. I'm looking at the crowd going, the motherfucker in the third row need to be fucked with because of that outfit. This motherfucker right here

is drunk. This is a potential problem. I got to have five jokes lined up to kill this motherfucker because he feeling brave. I noticed that a bunch. I'm watching.

Can you do that with everybody right here? Oh, they did. It's getting there. It's getting there. It's getting there. It's getting there. It's getting there. It's getting there. So plus I want to send out the signal to the crowd that he's not like everybody else.

Because they know most people stay in the green room and keep the fans at bay. And it gives off a vibe of not that I'm better than you, but you know what I'm saying? So I want them to feel they're the order of everything. They're the coolest shit. So then on top of that, if the jokes can match that, now they love you. You got them eating out the palm of your hand because they going, not only is the motherfucker super cool, but he's funny as a motherfucker.

So the more reason I can get them to invest in me, it's a win. Now that's one thing, man, I kid you not, I was going through as much as discography, as much as I can. And the movies, you're hilarious, but I can tell one million percent,

they cannot fuck with you on that stage. There's not a lot of people like the way your timing, the way you just sit around, you can tell you're comfortable in that. You're on the stage like how I'm comfortable on the toilet. I'm just ill on the toilet.

I'm A1. On the toilet bowl, I'm on good shit. You know what I'm saying? And you're like, you get on, and you're like, you're really... Is that something that inspires you, a crowd, to play off of the crowd? Yeah, I mean, listen, once upon a time ago,

my crowd work was none, only to say I didn't do it. Okay. I stepped to the script. You know, every comic's jokes is like the playbook. I wouldn't go outside to play, I'm not calling a horde. But if you really want to be great, you should be able to do a little bit of all. Improv, political humor, race humor.

If you're getting my impressions, it's a specific thing. But you should be able to have every facet of your game tight. And big shout out to Joe Torre and D.L. Hewley because they were two of the masters of crowd work. Joe, eat your ass a lot. Joe, I even heard recently where Joe did some shit that even made me go, I don't know if I'll do that. He was on stage and somebody was fucking up and he told me he made a joke about their mother. And then the person said, got mad, said, hey, man, don't talk about my mother. My mother dead.

He said, well, then I'll dig the bitch up and find something to joke about. I just. He went a little too far I mean like I said You don't know where the line is Till you cross it Till you cross it That's true

But listen I've had motherfuckers Want to fight me You ain't a good comic Unless a motherfucker Want to throw hands with you I've had people wait for me After one nigga in Orlando

Had on a sleeveless Denim vest And I was like Nigga when was the last time You seen a nigga rock denim Much less sleeveless So I just kept making jokes About his sleeveless denim vest. And I was like, nigga, when was the last time you seen a nigga rock denim, much less sleeveless? So I just kept making jokes about his sleeveless vest. And finally, he got mad towards the end of the show and got up and said, fuck you, nigga.

Fuck you. I'll be back. I said, what you going to do? Come back and beat me with the sleeves? Nigga, when I got off that stage, the only thing that stopped him from getting to me was the security, because he was talking to security. And once he seen me come out to come sell my merch, he rushed and security grabbed him up.

But yeah man, when you touch nerves, nigga. Let me just tell you, we don't know if you know what our show is about. Our show is about giving people their flowers when they can smell them. So many people want to say how great you are when you pass away, or you get sick, or you something. We don't want to do that. We want to tell you that in your face. Face to face and tell you, yo, you're hilarious. You do what you bring to this world.

We appreciate it. And we want to say that we salute you. While you're here, brother. My man, appreciate it, man. And this is called Maya Paca Ping Pong. Okay. Let's go. Salud.

Oh, shit. Ah! I don't like it. I don't miss that shit at all. That shit tastes like Jager. Yeah. Whoa. He should say Jager.

That's like a compliment. That's a compliment. Ancient Chinese secret. That's like a compliment. Oh, my God. So we do this for all guests because you know why? Oh, fuck. You know what the crazy thing is

Cardinal Fishel Shout out to Cardinal man Cardinal Fishel The other day Posted That's super dope What he posted man He posted

A picture of the Rolling Stones Yep And I think the guy that Mick Jagger Mick Jagger Was he part of the Rolling Stones Or Moose Okay So he posted a picture Of Mick Jagger And said look Jagger Was he part of the Rolling Stones Or Moose

Okay So he posted a picture Of Mick Jagger Said look He's on the road With the Rolling Stones I think Mick Jagger Is like 70 years old

Mad old So he said that The older Mick Jagger got The more revered He became In his community And the show Was crazy

He said the show was packed The show was packed People going crazy The older we get The more They say we the more that they say we washed up. Or they say, you know, and that's fucked up in our community. So we started this show to say,

you know what? We don't want to interview the new guys. Who's the one saying we washed up? Who's saying that? It's our community. So you mean regular Joes within the community? Our mainstream bullshit audience. It's just when you So you mean regular Joes within the community? Our mainstream bullshit. It's just when you're in this business for more than 12 years,

people just feel like they're used to you. So you're just supposed to be. They don't feel like you're a gift no more. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about ourselves. I'm including, you know. At first, when you know your first couple of years you come out, you're a gift.

And then after a while, they see you. It happens with artists. It happens with comedians. It happens with boxers. And we wanted to change that narrative. So I wanted to bring up to Cardinal Official for pointing that out, pointing out what we were doing and saying, like, this is the reason why I love Drink Champs because Drink Champs is giving people their flowers now. And I think that that's what we should do. I think it takes nothing away from me to

tell you how dope I think you are. How funny I think you are. How ill I think you are. I don't think it takes nothing away from me. In fact, I think it adds on to me as a man. I think we should clap for that guy. I think it adds on to me as a man because I'm not insecure in letting the next person know that you're great.

And guess what? I'm inspired by your greatness. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Let me tell you the truth. I always knew you was funny. But today, I got to analyze. Because when I'm about to interview somebody, I want to know everything. So I'm watching.

And I'm like, you made tears come up my eyes. You know what fucks me up, man? And I've been doing this 30 years. And I guess my boy always tells me how I should be used to it and not see myself the way I see it. But I remember when I first met you. Meaning, used to it? Say that part again, I'm sorry. I just, like, how most people see me from a revered standpoint, it's hard for me to see myself as that.

You know what I'm saying? Because I still look at myself as, like, let me put it like this okay when I first met you I don't know if you remember where we first met okay Miami Airport okay and and uh you knew me you saw me you gave me love he was like oh shit my nigga you need to do my podcast and I'm trying to keep my poker face but I'm going my point is my point is when I run into celebrities that know me I know I know them I grew up on them I'm expected to know them don't expect motherfuckers to know me and I'm finding out as I meet these motherfuckers they not only know me but it's almost like they not just going hey how you doing they're going

nigga you and it fucks me up cuz I'm just like yo this is surreal so you know you know why I concern people are good at certain things that you're actually talent what I mean by that is you're talented like you know how to act but you know how to be a comedian. And that's, like, one of my friends, his name is Jack Thriller, right? We had Jack Thriller on the podcast. He's hilarious, man. He was hilarious. But what happened was him and 2 Chainz had a little problem, right?

I didn't think the problem was anything. So I tried to FaceTime to change what I didn't know was I did not press FaceTime I press regular call so I'm like the two chains I'm like yo your Jack Thriller said you a bitch ass nigga something easy like this, Jack Thriller's right there. So 2 Chainz... This is terrible. I'm drunk at the time. We're not fake drinking. Terrible.

We're not fake drinking here. So what happens is 2 Chainz hears Jack Thriller and he just loses his mind. He goes, tell him... I never heard nobody say this. He said, tell him his mama pussy. Like I never heard a nigga tell that. It was terrible, man. He called his mama pussy. So, anyway, Jack reacted back.

And Recipes of Combat Jack, there was also on the show. Recipes of Combat Jack. Well, Jack reacted back and Jack got gangsta back with 2 Chainz. But he was being playful. No, not at first. At first, when 2 Chainz. But he was being playful. No, not at first. At first, when 2 Chainz said your mama pussy,

Jack actually took it serious, as he should. Because nobody's mama should be pussy. Absolutely. But I remember Jack coming to me and saying to me, Yo, Nori, why'd you do that? Why'd you set me up? And I said, one, I didn't set you up. I thought I was, you know, I was a little inebriated.

I thought I was on FaceTime. But two, I did not enjoy him jumping out of his comedian. Who, Jack? I feel like, yes. I feel like a comedian should be a comedian. But when he walked out, was he acting or not? No. He was serious.

I thought he was acting. He was serious, he took it personal. He thought I set him up. I still to this day thought he was acting. No, no, he fell out. So, that's so... All right, I bring that up to say now, I told this to Jack so I don't want it to seem like I'm talking...

Because you know Jack is my friend. No, he's a great dude. Right, and I spoke to him other day. So, I told him the difference between him and when we interviewed Marlon Wayans was we interviewed Marlon Wayans

and in the middle of our interview, the AC just break, right? So it just break and we have more niggas there, right? So you know how nigga heat, you heard of nigga heat, you know nigga heat.

I'm feeling it now. Yeah, yeah. So we had nigga heat. So now Marlon is sweating like a motherfucker, but we, we got to play all cool. We got to act like we've been doing this.

Right. So Marlon at no point broke his comedian-ness. Like he, he stayed, you know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, I do. Like he stayed in character,

in character, like at all. And to me, that's what a real comedian is you know what I'm saying am I bugging because I'm not 24 hours a rapper I'm telling you the truth

I think listen I don't again this is where I need to tread lightly because based on certain things I would naturally say it will be perceived in a lot of ways you know some dudes Based on certain things I would naturally say, it will be perceived in a lot of ways. Let's give a little shout out to Tiger Ball.

You know, some dudes are characters because that's their shtick. It's their shtick. I think some of the greatest comedians don't do shtick. They're funny naturally. Like no shtick is a gimmick? A gimmick. And when you're funny naturally, you don't have to turn it. You don't have to do a shtick. It comes when you want it to come.

You don't have to turn it on. It comes when it needs to come. You know, I think if I had to sit here and be Aries the funny guy the entire way, well, then how do we know who you are? You're not showing us who you are. You're showing us your stand-up. You know, let me see if you have insight, nigga.

You know what I'm saying? That was see if you have insight nigga mmm You know That's real deep right These shots like I'm not gonna say no name okay, but You know some comics talent doesn't match their arrogance Like you know you you you you there's some comics Who will come in the club With dark shades on They give specific orders to the wait staff Don't look them in the eye

Don't talk to them And they have a swagger Like they shit don't stink And it's like nigga if you're going to do that You gotta be Dave Chappelle They come in on looking like Ernie Murphy but they sound like Pauly Shore.

Yeah. And it's like, nigga, your talent doesn't match your arrogance. It's Pauly Shore, man. It's Pauly Shore. He can never be funny to me. I'm just telling you. But his mom's at the comic club.

His mom's at the comic club. Pauly Shore, the white guy, right? Yeah. I'm going to be honest. His mom's at the comic club. Listen, for the record, I don't think any comic should walk around

with that much bravado. But if you're going to, you got to be a bad motherfucker. Rest in peace Patrice O'Neal. Yo, look, he's my, no, hold on, hold on, look. So you know, he's, I don't want to show you, because I don't want niggas to think he goes right in my interview right now.

This nigga keeps saying my next question. Everything he keeps saying is my next question. Before you get to your next question, let me just go back for a second. Like when I told you how you and I met, and this is why I say this shit is so surreal to me. Let me tell you my Nas story. And I think Nas is one of the greatest rappers of all time.

You know, and it's when I get into these debates with these young kids about rap, who can't rap to begin with, I see this nigga made a song called Rewind. He rapped backwards. Nigga, I'll smoke an L. You know how hard it is for me to write forward? This nigga made a song called Rewind. He rapped backwards. Nigga, I was smoking L. You know how hard it is for me to write forward? Right.

This nigga wrote backwards, and it was a beast. So, I'm in the Laugh Factory one night, and I'm on the balcony level, it's two levels, and I see Khalees, and this is when him and Khalees was married, I didn't know he was there, but I seen Khalees, and I go, Khalees, I just want to tell you, can you please tell your husband,

I think this nigga is one of the, she stopped me. She goes, he's downstairs in the booth. He loves you. So I go down there, and I think I called my man over here, Ivan, my boy who's here with me now when it happened. Pick up Ivan. He was sitting in the booth like this with a henny on the table.

He was chilling like this. So I walk up to him, I extend my hand, I go, yo, Nas, I just got to tell you, he goes, yo, I love you God He goes oh, yeah, I watch you all the time you that nigga God I said, thank you Nas nigga I went outside and was straight bitch I'm not going to do this! I'm like, oh! That was a moment for me, man. That's dope, that's dope, man. But for Patrice O'Neal, I'm going to clank my answers with you, but I'm going to break later.

Okay. I don't think it works that way. How does it work that way? Come on, look at some more. I know, man. That doesn't work that way. Come on, look at some more. Let's move on. Y'all niggas turning to a white fraternity. Patrice O'Meara, one of the most genius comedians out there. Yeah.

Again, my man when he was alive. I had just started to lose weight. And I went on an interview with Shane Paul. It was before Angela Yee was even at Power 105. And I did an interview with Chisell Nell. He had seen me like six months prior to that. He'd seen me like big boy. He was like, yo, so how'd you do? So I gave him my number.

And again, he's another comedian. He would just talk to me and he would just rank on me. Like the nigga never stopped being a comedian. He'd be like, yo, my nigga listen, so you telling me when you go home, you ain't no Totonis? I'm like, how the fuck you know what Totonis is, Patrice? He's like, nigga, I have no friends, people. I'm just saying, that was a

funny dude, bro. Let me tell you something, man. I always said, there's only three comics I would be nervous to follow. I'll follow anybody, but the three niggas who always would give me, if I had to follow them, I'm this. Patrice, Dave, and

Tommy Davidson. Tommy Davidson! Tommy Davidson is awesome. Now you want to talk about talent. When we did the Shaq Salt Star Comedy Jam, and Cedric kind of gave him a little bit of shit because he was like, you know, for the Spanish bros that understood your Spanish bit,

that was nice. For the Spanish bros, meaning a lot of black people didn't get it. When Tommy does the bit where he imitates Telemundo in Spanish and he speaks Spanish and sings, that creatively is one of the greatest bits because to pull that off, that's talent.

You got to be able to speak fluently in a different language and make it funny and if you go back when Tommy I forget what special he did but he did a thing about square dancing and he did the banjo and did niggas energy level he's a stick of dynamite for him to be that energetic and come up with them kind of bits tommy's a bad dude so you said tommy dave and who else dave chappelle and patrice oh patrice yeah yeah yo patrice he he was he was so special patrice would say things and you would go how would i would i would have someone even think of that right like he was on the opium anthony show one time and a black stripper was going at it with him.

And you know how girls before they get all these implants, her titties were really flat, saggy, and long. Just flat. And he told this bitch, your titties look like Bible slingshots. Man, you know what that is? The stick with the rubber band, and her titties was hanging like the rubber band, nigga.

Off the old Bible slingshot. This nigga, he would come up with shit that was just incredible. Incredible. And his, his was his honesty. They were talking about the Tiger Woods thing when Tiger got in trouble and they had a psychiatrist on the phone,

like a real doctor. And at one point he kept going, Miss, Miss. And she stopped him. She goes, Patrice, please don't call me miss call me ma'am or doctor and there was a nice two second pregnant pause and patrice went whatever bitch listen he just like that kind of he yeah that's a hat tipper man as a comedian right um you see you see information in this world. Some that's probably not funny.

Right. How do you guys, like, sit there? Like, I see comedians make jokes about the World Trade Center and make it make fun. Yeah. Like, how do you go about a tragic situation and turning it and flipping it to something funny? Timing. Yeah. I don't know if it's the right timing.

There's such a thing as too soon. Too soon, I was about to say that. But yeah, timing. After a certain amount of time goes by, anything can be made funny. But sometimes it might be too soon. But no, here's the funny thing. Going back to my Dr. King joke.

When I do the joke and I say the punchline about Dr. King getting shot on the balcony, the audience goes, and I go, fuck y'all, too soon? This is back in 1968. You know what I mean? So you got to address the elephant in the room, too.

Like, how the fuck is that too soon? Yeah. Oh, man, this is hilarious. Let's bring in your homie. Yeah. Me too, me too. And I'm going to set him up, right? Yeah, so we can step outside, right?

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Wow. And we do a podcast together. What's the name of the podcast? Spears and Steinberg, a.k.a. The Jew and the Jerk. The Jew and the Jerk. Spears and Steinberg. Steinberg. Okay, definitely.

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in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, now being that, explain your relationship with comedy. My relationship with comedy? Yeah. I failed at everything else and comedy is the only thing that's ever made me happy. Get out of here. Yeah, no, seriously. And it's the only thing that, like everything that I thought I could say. And honestly, I just never, this is my first time that I ever had felt like I was actually accomplishing something in my life. And I didn't start doing this until I was 42. Wow. You started doing comedy until you were 42?

Yeah, I went home and told my kids. How old are you now? I'm 53. Wow. Yeah, so I went home and told my kids at 42 I think I'm gonna take this shit for real I'm gonna really go out doing stand-up yeah and my kids just said dad like we like food and shit and what did you do before uh I did everything before honestly I used to honestly move back in uh in the late 80s I mean I sold, I sold weed. I sold weed for... I used to take weed from...

From the 80s to the 2000s. Sometimes I might spend a little time in jail because I was selling some weed, so... So that took some time, and then I got married. Nigga, whoa, whoa, whoa, run it back. Nigga glossed over the weed and went to marriage. Nigga, what's the part of the book where you sold coke, n***a? You sold coke for like a minute. It was like a minute ago. I always sold coke because I wanted coke.

Oh, so you fucked with your own product? Yeah. You didn't listen to Biggie at all? No, and that was before Biggie, so if he would have been around a little earlier, he could have told me something. White guy snorting his own coke, nigga. That's white privilege. Okay, wait. Everybody who knows anything about coke knows how this works.

When you don't have a lot of money, and I didn't, what you do is you just take an 8-ball, and you take out a half a gram for yourself. You crush an aspirin. You put that in there. You sell the other three grams of coke, and you keep a half a gram for yourself, you crush an aspirin, you put that in there, you sell the other three grams of coke, and you keep a half a gram for yourself. Hey! Meanwhile,

Meanwhile, Meanwhile, Meanwhile, Meanwhile, the nigga don't know nothing about that. So y'all see America? Don't be putting that shit on us. He just broke down an eight ball and some coke. I'll see America, don't be putting that shit on us.

We just broke down an eight ball in some coke. With aspirin, with aspirin. Where'd the aspirin come from? Aspirin came because I didn't know what you were supposed to do. You mixed the aspirin with the coke? You mixed the aspirin with the coke. That way if someone gets a headache, I've already fucking taken care of their problems.

Meanwhile, I use words like expeditiously. And you get high and not have a headache at the same time. Same time. But no, I only did that. I did that seriously. A couple times. No, I did it a few times. No, longer than that. I did that, though, just to really just to have my own coke.

But when I met the coke dudes, they actually got me into the weed. And I was from Arizona, and now everybody's going to know this. I went to the U of A, and I went to Pima Community College hit it one you're gonna hear me call this is the divorce kids will do okay so uh I was going I was there and I met a bunch of kids to go to college and they want we taking back to like you know you were were a kid at the same time. I just want to make sure you're not still a kid right now. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, I was a kid. I was 18, 19 years old. So I met people that wanted weed to go back there. And I knew all these guys from the Coke, but now everybody wanted to get out of Coke because it was dangerous, and weed was easy at the time. So we just took weed. We'd buy a trash compactor, and then you'd fill it it with weed and you'd make 25 to 40 pound blocks and then you throw them in your suitcase, which you can't do anymore. And I'm not saying this to advocate if you want to send some weed back home. I'm letting you know that if you go to the airport right now with weed in your suitcase, you ain't going to leave the airport.

Well, you will, but it will be within cuffs and you'll be going somewhere else. Now, where are your destinations? In the good old days, you could just throw that shit in your suitcase What's this TWA? It was all the earbuds It's all the WAs This nigga's white boy Rick Right right

I saw that movie by the way So that's what I did and I got in a little trouble for it I went to jail for a little while. It was a little while. Really, it was quick. It was six months. That's definitely quick. It was quick because it was 300 pounds.

So that's quick. What the fuck? 300 pounds, six months? That's definitely white privilege as well. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise.

Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. That makes no sense. I know what I'm doing right now. What happened? I will never deny white privilege and I will accept it graciously at all times.

I would like to be your friend. So when I get pulled over, I'm going to just jump out the seat and put you in there to come up to this nigga with diamonds. No, it's very, very simple. White privilege comes quickly, especially if you look like this.

Now, I'm Mexican and Jewish and I look Jewish. So let's do whatever it comes with. With what that comes with, I'm taking all of it. So let's have it. You know, there's some black privileges sometimes. Absolutely. There is some black privileges. I mean, we don't have the privileges like y'all have.

Like, y'all got, nigga, I'm going to get you in college. But our stereotype is our privilege. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes being an angry nigga can work for you. Sometimes being an angry nigga can work for you privilege. You know I'm saying sometimes I can work for you Sometimes being an angry nigga can work for you I We talk about this on the podcast everybody has privilege Okay, because it all rolls downhill and everybody's at some point in the hill so privilege you need to recognize your own privilege at all times white people

don't recognize they have their own privilege the only reason they don't know it is because they just do what is white in america you go walk outside it's easy to be white in america you're not going to notice anything this is just how it works you know you know the crazy i used to hate being famous until i couldn't get a table at Crustaceans. Then I was like, I'm not ready to hang out. Like, when you can't, like, when I, if I, like, because I like to be as normal as possible. Like, I don't want to go to a place and announce I'm coming. But then after a while, I'm like, oh, fuck that.

Yeah, no, yeah. It's nice to play that card, man. I heard you say something. I heard you say something. You said that you thought it was a downfall that you don't smile enough. Yeah. And let me know when you get in front of a certain type of crowd. Well, no, it's like when I'm not on stage.

Like, that's why going back to what you said earlier about being in comic mode. Most people's perception of comedians is that we're always jokey when I'm not on stage man I wear ice cube Scout why you know man the people that don't know me I don't look approachable I don't look like you know I don't come off like Wayne Brady The Yankee hat and Tim's... Listen, when I did... I'm going to be honest. Yankee hat and Tim's spells criminal all around. I love blacks. I'm going to say this. Listen, listen.

When I did the Breakfast Club, I rolled up there with the hat. And a hoodie. And a hoodie. A black hoodie. You were definitely stereotyping. Yeah, so I don't walk around cheesing, nigga. I'm very... You know what I'm saying?

So people see that and they go, angry black man. You know what I mean? It's just I don't walk around Cheesing like that man Right You know I get in the moment When it's time to get in the moment Okay

Before I Sorry I'm going to switch it Switch it crazy Before I switch it crazy I would like to ask Both of you people's opinion On Key and Pell

Right Uh oh Key and Pell Key and Pell Uh oh Because I know You guys are on Mad TV together Yeah I know you guys don't mad TV together yeah I know that they took a different turn you took a different turn

and I really didn't relate to key appeal at all now let me stop you right there okay this is one of the things that got me in trouble there sure what I'm saying the one thing that got me trouble I was on Vlad TV and I talked about how you know just like black people we come in different forms. You know what I'm saying? DMX is DMX all the time. Yeah. DMX. You use that example in Will Smith. Right. And Will Smith. Will Smith has that magical ability where he can be around a bunch of white people and come off genuine. Not like he's trying to be white. Not like he's shuffling an Uncle Tom.

He's himself. He's acceptable. and come off genuine. Not like he's trying to be white, not like he's shuffling in Uncle Tom. He's himself. He's acceptable. But he could also go down to any hood and still be Will, and he's respected. Open up the Johnny. It's authenticity.

It's authenticity. DMX might not, he might do it, but he might be around some kind of upper echelon of white folks. And X being X, they may, he's too abrasive for them.

So I almost say it's like an X-Men gene. To be black and be able to do both sides without switching it up for any one of them, that's a special talent. And, you know, Key and Peele, I said, are they black? Yes. Technically, yes. Yes, technically yes, but based on certain behavior, based on certain actions, just the swagger, the way you walk, the way you talk, certain moves you make. They were black, but they weren't black. And I know you know what I mean. Yeah, I know what you mean.

But I said that. I even heard Dave say, he said he had to watch him kind of like do his show for two years. Yes. Because Dave Chappelle said after he quit and when he said that he basically. Oh, because they took his slot. They took like the sketch type of comedy thing. Maybe they take everything from him. That was his lease.

But was it even his slot at the same or no? I don't remember. I don't know about the slot. But what I said was perceived a certain way. And what did you say for the record? I just, again, I basically said that, look, Key and Peele. And I never said they weren't funny. Very funny.

I just said, you know, do they come off? In other words, when I would watch them on their show and they would imitate black guys, it came off like Amos and Andy it felt like black guys doing blackface like like brother you know brother man yeah brother when I go niggas don't act like that real niggas don't talk like that it felt like white guys trying to be black guys even though black guys being black guys the of the authenticity wasn't there. So I said that cut to Jordan does get out 300 million dollar movie I fucking get out though want an Oscar. Yeah great movie

Yeah, but this was all before he blew up. Let me tell you some funny shit. The crazy shit is I fuck with them when they're separate. When they got together as a sketch comedy, I didn't like the sketch comedy, but I like him. And that's okay. Comedy's subjective.

Yeah. But, cut to, he's fucking huge now. And I kept saying to myself, I wonder if he saw that interview. And I don't know

whether he did or didn't. Maybe some other dudes got in his ear. But this is when he was casting to the last OG. And I audition't know whether he did it didn't maybe some other dudes got in his ear But this is when he was casting to the last og and our audition for the role that Cedric got We did last with Tracy Morgan Produced it From get out. Okay. Yeah, I know that's appeal. Yes. So I read the breakdown I go produced by Jordan Peele

I said, oh shit So I went to the audition that day and I walked in the room. Now, he could have played it where it was like, yeah, nigga, I know what you said and made me feel it. But he didn't. He was like, Aries, what's up? We shook the hands. We did the thing. And as I'm auditioning, I didn't get it from him.

But the white guys who were working with him, I said, I know they got in his ear and said, yo, you need to see what this nigga said about you because the vibe in the room was just, you could feel it. So I, you know, that's one of those moments where I said what I said and even when I did my interview on Comedy Hype, I said, I still stand by what I said,

but maybe I just shouldn't have said it. I'm not going to change my opinion, but maybe I should have just not have said it, period. Because that's one of those moments where, you know, yeah, motherfucker, payback. But you just said it again. I took the same stance. I'm not changing what I said.

But now it's out there. Then you should have said it. Well, you say it should have been said. Well, yeah, but those are the repercussions. Right. Again, I think those guys are funny in their own way. I think at first, wait, comedy, I think, sorry to put it like this, but I think Comedy Central sold us as fans. Now, you could look at it as something totally different.

But for me, Comedy Central sold so this is the new Chappelle Yeah, they might have this is how this how is presented to me as a fan right placement The new Chappelle even before that there was Carlos Mencia And that I'm on its troubles right but but I think they were always trying to find the new Chappelle show right right when you create That kind of noise the the revenue, they want that. Right. Speaking of Chappelle, what did you think when you found out he went to Africa? I didn't really have an opinion on it.

And then later when he did interviews where he talked about, particularly on the inside, the actor's studio, when he talked about Hollywood and the business and what's insane. Is that the Oprah one? No, that's the one with the guy's name. The white guy. Yeah, that shit is awesome. Yeah, but Dave is so insightful that he said things in interviews

that kind of made you go he wasn't crazy. I noticed the spin they wanted to put on it, but he wasn't crazy. He had to get away from it. He talked about the incident where Martin Lawrence was, you know, I guess running down the street and clothes and bugging in the street. And he goes, you know, what kind of industry do we live in that's so sick that would make a person do that? You know what I'm saying?

Again, we don't know the facts. Facts. Was Martin on some? Who knows? Only Martin knows that. But I'm telling you this. I was definitely on PCP that day. on something, who knows, only Martin knows that. But I'm telling you this, based on what I know about this industry and what I've been through,

I don't know too many people that make it in this industry sober. Wow. Because this business will steal your spirit. Nah, that's real shit. It'll steal your fucking spirit. You're on string champs. God damn it.

Well, yeah. We on strong words. I heard it. It's real shit because I, like, you know, knowing that you was coming today. Did you hear that again? Yeah, this interview is going to be very different in three minutes. Knowing that you was coming today, I had seen all your interviews prior,

and obviously, you read the comments, I had seen all your interviews prior and obviously you read the comments and so many people like when we have an opinion of somebody else and people think that you're doing better, they automatically call you a hater, right? So I went and I reassessed everything and I saw every point that you were trying to make back then today. Like I just saw it. I was just like, I like, because I was supposed to only watch like three or four,

and I just walked around my house the whole day. And I watched about like 12 different just things. You doing impressions of DMX. You doing, you being asked this question. You being, or Vlad,

being asked this question about this and so on and so forth. But me going through all of that, took me 12 different things right for me to understand your point yeah is because so many people would like you know I guess it's that light I think you spoke about it and and and and and they say that it's one person chosen in Hollywood a year right black people maybe right

and it's it's it's so much the same in the music business like meaning like we have a run Right, like you have a crazy run like you have a run but then at some point it just slows down It doesn't stop it slows down and you have to do something else

Have you have you have you guys reached that point? I? Guess I'm lucky enough to wear one. I'm not out there overexposed. So, you know, and this is another thing I love about Dave. You don't see Dave in a shitload of interviews. He's got no media. And let me just say again, please, I don't want this to be perceived wrong. Different strokes, different folks. If it works for you, great.

You see Kevin Hart everywhere. And that's fine, he's the movie man, whatever. But I think when you leave mystery, it makes people wonder what are you doing? And it adds to your mystique. As much as I love Michael Jordan, I'm a Michael Jordan fanatic, I love the fact that I don't see him

like I see Barkley every Thursday during NBA season. Because it adds to the mystique of Michael Jordan. You don't see Nas and you don't see fucking Rakim every Thursday. You don't see that. Or it's a different business model. That's what I'm saying. It could just be that. So for me, I'm just like...

No, because I'm trying to understand what you're saying. What do you mean a different business model? Maybe someone says, I need to get myself overexposed and make this kind of bread in this kind of way. And then other people say, well, I'll reserve myself to this kind of bag. Understand? And one's not better than another, I'm saying. No, no. They're both getting maybe the same amount of money.

I'm just saying for me. You know what I'm saying? I think when people, especially when people love you and they want to see you and you're not always available, you keep that desire, that burning desire for them to keep looking for you. So I'm not looking to oversaturate myself, for one. And, you know, again, like they see my work, and they go, this nigga's so authentic, or he's so talented, for somebody who doesn't have a movie career, for somebody who ain't been on TV consistently

since Mad, and it's been a minute, the fact that I'm still able to go out on the road and put asses in the seats is a testament to something that people know, yo, with this nigga, I'm gonna get this fucks with him do you think this is a crazy question do you think you suffer

from your own success like meaning like bad Joe goes all out every year to make a crazy record I see him every year. And then he makes a record, and it works. And then the people say, well, it's supposed to work. So I don't know if you guys can speak what the fuck I just said. But this motherfucker works all year to make a crazy hit, and it comes a hit. And people accept it they say okay

this is a new lean back but then at the same token they say so what he was supposed to make you because he's subjected to make the best product and you said you you're I don't want to say supposed to but it but it's not a surprise but he doesn't get the props that he deserves because they almost say he's supposed to make it home run. Technically, he is because he's talented and he's got the goods. But if you don't apply the work ethic and he's lazy with it and he just acts like it's supposed to be bestowed upon him, then that's different. But what I'm saying is there like, there's not a lot of losses on your behalf.

Like, there's, you know, there's you rocking places. Right. So, now, is that what people just expect of you? Like, they just, oh, Aries,

he rocked the motherfucking place, but he's supposed to. I mean, they might expect it, but at the same time, again, I'm not everywhere to where you can judge me so much. You know what I'm saying they might expect it, but at the same time, again, I'm not everywhere to where you can judge me so much. You know what I'm saying? Like, look, man, there's no reason why

I should. It's like they give everybody under the sun that's a comic a show on Comedy Central. There's no reason why I shouldn't have a show. There's no reason why I shouldn't have a special. Netflix turned me down. You know, people keep saying to me, yo, you should have Netflix with you. But they keep turning, Netflix turned me down.

And when I got in that situation. Before Monique? Before, well, I don't know what the timing of when it was. But even with, when I had that incident with Corey Holcomb at the 5150, my manager. Not the fight. The fight. Okay.

Yeah. That was the part. The interview joint? Yeah, the interview joint. My manager went to try to get me a Netflix special, and he said, a couple of the executives said they saw the Corey Holcomb thing and went, they laughed. They went, he deserved

it. Good. And not only did they not give me the special, they felt I deserved that. Let me ask you something because I saw it years ago. I didn't understand it, but I had to, obviously when I Googled you today, it popped popped up but I actually didn't understand what actually transpired like because Corey I'm looking at the interviews prior to that

I'm seeing the respect you have for Corey I'm seeing I was in my top five yeah I'm seeing the love and I said let me say for the record I still think he's a great comedian just cuz the incident the record, I still think he's a great comedian. Just because the incident happened doesn't take away his ability. He's still a bad motherfucker. We're just different now. I feel like,

what part made you feel like he wasn't your friend no more? Well, first of all, he never was my friend. Oh, wow. Let me, I just say, he was somebody I respected. Okay.

And a colleague in the comedy game. I don't fuck around with that word friend. Friend is somebody who help you bury a body. Right, right, right. Friend is somebody who you know will fuck your lady. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Who has your back.

You know, my best friend is in the back of this room right now. So I don't take that word lightly. But to answer your question, after the incident went down, the stance he took right when it happened was very different the next day. And I didn't understand that. Okay, I don't understand you right now. So what you mean?

Like what happened at that incident? At the moment it popped off and, you know, in the heat of the moment, he was saying one thing to me. Like, you know, oh, man, that's crazy. It was fucked up what he did and dude is wrong. But then. Because it wasn't him that just. It wasn't, that's crazy. It was fucked up what he did and dude is wrong. But then... Because it wasn't him that just... It wasn't Corey. It was Zoom, Zoom, Zoom Williams or whatever his name was.

But then after days later, I called Corey back and was like, nigga, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, nah, man, you was tripping. You was fucking up. You was, you had too much Tanqueray. You was... I was like, nigga like that's different from what you told me so then that kind of just and we mean that's a story here I

guess it just dramatically changed right you know because because that's that's the thing now let me ask you because I don't know um is Zoe Williams a comedian or no and that was no but here my mistake. And I said this in many interviews. Because Corey was my guy. I get it. And there was a risk, my guy. All he had to do was say to me what he said was, which was, yo, this is Zoe Williams. It's my man.

Okay? So your man is now my man. Or for you. Facts. And I thought the same thing that we doing here, we could do there. Drinks. So I'm like, let's say you Zoe, we could do there. We had drinks. So I'm like, let's say you, Zoe. And again, I'm from New York. I talk with a certain flair and a passion.

And I let my guard down. So I'm talking. We in it. I've got the tang of Ray. I'm thinking, God, you're crazy, dude. And there's a little bit of contact. I'm exiting a little bit. You know what I mean?

So it's doing this. And I was saying shit. And look, here's the thing about comics. Like rappers or whatever, when you're in the same hustle, you know how to break each other's balls. And there ain't ever going to be no animosity. We joke. It's what we do.

It's how we eat. I assumed he was in that world. He's a civilian. He's a regular civilian. So what I'm saying is touching nerves. When I'm thinking, we comics, nigga. I assumed he was in that world. Right. He's a civilian. He's a regular civilian. Right. So what I'm saying is touching nerves. Right. When I'm thinking, we comics, nigga, this is what we do.

We give and take. If I give it to you, you give it to me ten times back as good. So I guess, you know, I did one too many knee slaps. Right. And, you know, I massaged this nigga's tissues. Right. And he got upset. Right.

And shit went the way it went. But like I said, that's my fault because I went in there with the, I just went in there with my guard down. And I said I would never do that again. I believe, I believe comedians has to be comedians. That's the reason why I was like, like, yo, Marlon Wayans. We had to like literally almost kick him out because he just, he just fell in love with us. He just kept, he kept smoking with him. He just was like, he just was like, you know what?

He felt comfortable because we understand comedians. He could clown everybody in the room. Listen, Russell Peters came here as well. And Russell Peters sit right where EFM was at. We got him high. We got him fucked up. And he joked on

Twin. And Twin is paralyzed. Everyone can see that Twin is paralyzed And I didn't know Cause he kinda went A little too far Like just like For a certain thing

And I had to But he was saying it to me But I had to pull Twin aside And I'm like Yo We gotta let a comedian Be a comedian That's like me

Telling him Yo you can't be that much Of a rapper Right Like I can't You can't I don't want nobody To judge me like that I don't want nobody to judge me like that.

I don't want nobody to say, yo, yo, you know what? Say what, what. Don't say what, what, what, what, what, what. Right. You went too far with the other three. The other one. The twos, the twos is okay.

Right. But the other three, you're preposterously out of line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't want somebody to do that. So, I stepped to Twin and I said, yo, look, I know what comedians do and twin looked at me like yo So wait wait he sat on him

Oh, yeah, I thought you made just like physically sad He wouldn't be able to feel that. No way. No, because. See? There you go. See? So that's.

That's pretty good. And that's the thing is comedians, I'd love to say I feel sorry for y'all, but I watch because the thing is, what makes me a sane person is watching you motherfuckers make fun of me. Watching you motherfuckers make fun of what's happening. You know what's funny, man, I gotta say, as you say that, and most people are like that. But you know, I tell you a rapper who,

the sense of humor is, you know, LL. I did a movie called Out of Sync with LL. And I was playing his best friend. And I would, you know, imitate him in front of him. What you doing, B-Man? What you doing, man? Come on, man. You big soul.

You kill him. It's crazy, man. You know, it's kind of funny, B-Man, while we're looking at each other. So he wasn't really, he felt like I was making fun of him Well, you know listen in certain interviews and certain things I've done like I said I go I go hard like I on my CD. I did I did a prank call where I did LL Cole in a gay club. Trying to get in on Filipino night. How does this go? Can we have a snippet? It's so specific though. I called the club up

and I said, yeah, I want to come in on Filipino night. It's a Filipino night. I want to sit in a dark booth with a hoodie on. You ever rub coconut oil on your calves? I want to chill with a Filipino boy. You know what I mean? It's crazy, man. It's bananas, man.

You know, so, you know, and I think word got back to him and he kind of, you know, but that's what I was doing. This was on the set? This was on my comedy CD.

No, I'm talking about on the set, like you and... Oh, no, no, no, no. I mean, you know... You already done that. Yeah, I already done it. Yeah, he's on the set

with all of you. But how about DMX? Like, when you met DMX did he appreciate you? Well, here's what's funny I remember Jay-z was doing a concert at the Staples Center and that week we had meth and red on mad TV So meth was like yo, I'm hanging out with hove at the Staples Center. Yo roll with me So I did so again my CD had just come out So I'm bumping into Busta Rhymes and everybody and you hold up my CD and promote it give me a shout out y'all and it was all doing it so I seen X and I said uh X man my CD he stopped me say you're Doug and he's a hollering chair so and here again my mistake he was he was hanging out in one of the locker

rooms and in the locker room there's only one way in and one way out. So again, me being naive, I walk in the locker room. He comes in next, but then 15 niggas come in. And they all form a circle around me and X. And it's just me and X in the middle. And then the last dude comes into security. He slams the door. Boom.

And stands right in front of the door. And he said, yo, dog, my door, and he said your dog my voice I heard some things with my voice. I said well look I just want you to promote the CD Yeah, I'll tell you what come to my hotel. Let me hear fucked me up though. Here's what fucked me up though. Now let's go back. Let's go back to when I was talking about degrees of blackness. Now I'm a legit 100% nigga. Here's how I know I'm not nigga nigga.

This nigga X was talking to me and at one point this nigga said, yo dawg, you know what I mean? And pulled a razor blade out from under his tongue. And I looked at that shit and I said this nigga can talk without cutting Between me and this nigga Breathe a nigga right there That's the ragazine shit, I'm so sorry so sorry that's the ragazine 90s So how about Ho? What was your first impression of you meeting Ho?

Well, the first time I met him, I had to do an interview. I was interviewing Tamia, Grand Hill's wife, for a magazine. And it was at this spot in Beverly Hills where you know they had a little restaurant outdoor joint so I'm sitting with her at the table and he comes in and I remember he had a hat on backwards and a wife beater he obviously knew she was he I wasn't nobody at the time to me uh to me if he so he went over to give her love but she's a singer she's saying right here and uh I was like yo ho man big fan man whatever this nigga played me like

i was just like damn so and i i hadn't really seen him after that but me and my peoples we went to the pacquiao mayweather fight and when the fight was over everybody was spilling out from the arena into the streets and we see alan iverson there's a little mob around him. Then that mob believes him and immediately goes over here because now it's Jay and Beyonce walking hand by hand. And I just happen, my movement, to join their rhythm. So I'm right next to them as they're walking in stride. And I said, yo Jay man, big fan man. He goes, I know who you are nigga.

I know who you are, nigga. I know who you are. How did he say it again? I know who you are, nigga. I know who you are. I really wanted to break down to him and just give him a little bit, you know. I ain't animated like Sam Buster rhymes. But the real shit you get when you break down my lines Add that to the fact I've been blood a bunch of times Time's the apple of my influence on pop culture

I'm supposed to be number one on everybody list We'll see what happens when I no longer exist Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Now how about Shaq? You know what's funny? When people ask about the impressions, I say it's always like being a musician. Singers have ear for tonation, pitch, riffs, tone. So it's like everybody's voice is a note. So Shaq is all base. You know be honest

I like Shaq, but every time I meet him he grabs my head Let's do it like this, let's uh Ask me questions. Uh-huh. Ask me a question like we got shit. Ask me tell you what. Let's do it like this. Let's ask me a question. Ask me a question like we got Shaq. Ask me a basketball question. Okay, Shaq. Right now, we got Kevin Durant is going to the Brooklyn Nets. But he's going to be out the whole season.

He's going to be out the whole season. How is the Nets season going to be like with just Kyrie? Can Kyrie hold down this whole season without... First of all, let me tell you something. Brother, they already got a strong team. Kyrie's one of the best point guards in the world. I used to say it was a brother James. Hold on, hold on, wait.

Wait, let Shaq speak! Let Shaq speak! I used to tell people all the time, as long as Lebron got the others, he's gonna go and make the boys, he's gonna do what he's gotta do. But when he got the others, J.R., Kroger, and they played with him, they went there. No! That's J.R. Kroger. Let me go back, let me go back, Tal,

to why, this is why I say I'm blackballed. Y'all recently saw the NBA Awards, right? And they had that moment where Jay Pharoah sat at the table with Barkley, and he imitated Shaq. And this ain't got nothing to do with my vanity. Read the comments. 85, 90% said

there's no fucking way that shouldn't have been Aries. Damn. No fucking way. Damn. That's Aries all day. And I didn't get that job. I didn't even get the call.

Right. So, you know, do I know that's because I'm blackballed? No, but my spidey sense tells me something. That's crazy. And Jay Fowler just did White Famous, didn't he? No, but my spidey sense tells me something. That's crazy. And Jay Fowler just did White Famous, didn't he?

Well, he had done White Famous, yeah, from Saturday Night Live and all that. But, you know, that's just one of those moments where I go, man, something's up. Something's up. Okay. And people will say that's what makes me An asshole Is that I would say that I'm not supposed to say Say what? I think I should've got that call

I'm not allowed to say that No I think you should No But that's perceived as Cocky What? Cause you You shouldn't have got

That you should've Then I'm saying that Like I shouldn't be like that Somehow No I don't think that's cocky You know Yeah yeah Like I'm just saying that

I thought You know That's a job I deserved. Slightly. But I'm not supposed to say that. I'm not supposed to say that. You were out before. Jay Farrell was my man.

I got his phone number. We cool. See my soul house every now and then. But you've been doing it way before, Jay. Well, people also thought I had a beef with Jay because I said this. Again, I always started everything with, motherfucker's funny, and Jay's funny, and I'll say like I said a million times, he does impressions I wish I could do.

I'm envious of that nigga. But the only thing I said to bother me is impressions are specific, and what makes a great impression is when you capture detail to the last dime. And Jay, when he would do Jay-Z, he would always go, Blue Ivy, my baby girl, I run the way old and I said home would never say that

He would say girl and world the way you say girl the world but with a whole tone. Yo, my baby girl Like when he would do Shaq he would do this face he would go And it's like it's part of what makes it great is it's a slight exaggeration Shaq don't look like this, but a little bit So I just you know certain little things like that would get me and I would say that. And again, I'm not supposed to say shit like that. Right. I'm just supposed to, you know.

You're the only one who can do someone else's impression of that somebody else. Right. No one else can do that. Of the impression. Yeah. What's your favorite part of comedy? Me? Being that you started at, you started at 41, you said, or 42?

42. I'm going to start at 42. I I'm gonna be real honest for me yes self gratification to get that immediate response of laughter for something that I said and know that people enjoyed it he's like a drug but he but I really talk about my real life stories so when I don't get that it's not fun that's why did you feel like your life is well because yeah because it's not fun. That's why. Because you feel like your life is fucked up. Yeah, because it's me. When someone doesn't like me, they don't like me. They don't like the comedy.

So that's your material, it's your life. So they don't like me. Right. So that's the only side of it. But I love the honesty that you get to have with comedy and that's what I love about it. And it's not a real job. I have not felt in the 11 years that I've been doing this

that I had a job. Wow. I don't feel like I go to work. You mean you feel like you go to here. How did you guys meet? How'd you two meet? Well, I would perform in certain spots in Cali

and he just happened to be opening up. I thought he was from Utah, like your shirt. No, no, this is based on a joke. No, no,

this is based on an actual joke. Is it Kanye? Is it Kanye? Yeah, yeah. White people's No, no, because there ain't no niggas in Utah.

So Utah is white people's Africa. First time I went to Utah, I was looking for niggas like, what the fuck is this? And I was like, I was in the airport. You know, airport is diverse because niggas is going in and out. Yo, that's funny as fuck.

The first time I went to Utah, I was stuck in the airport for seven hours. I became a Carpillone fan. Yeah, I was like, nigga, dance. I was watching everything while you taught jazz. Nigga, I said Car Carmelone is the shit. Yeah, so I was like, yeah, you taught white people's Africa. Yo, that's crazy.

No, I mean, how'd they meet? Yeah, no, so I would perform, and he was opening for me. And, you know, like I said, I wear a scowl. I got my music on. I'm in the zone getting ready for the show. And, again, this perception is, don't talk to Aries, yo. He's angry, or he's a diva or he's difficult. And he didn't buy into any of that shit.

So he just started talking to me. And, you know, things just kind of meshed. And I liked his comedy. And he had the guts to ask me, yo, can I feature with you regularly? I said, yeah, come on. That being said, though, I got to say this real quick. The second time I worked with him, though, was on the road, and

he didn't talk to me. I thought we broke that barrier. We talked. We had a big conversation. What I didn't know is if you don't know Aries well, just because you met him and had a conversation with him, you don't start off where you left off. You go back to where you very first started. I sat

in the green room for like two days and I didn't say anything to him and he wasn't saying anything to me and I just go, so is this what you expect from your future? No. She didn't talk to you unless you talked to me. And he just looked at me and goes, I'm a grown fucking man,

you can talk to me whenever you want to. And he goes, I'll be outside. He walked outside and then after that, it was kind of like. And I think the third week we worked together, this motherfucker bought me a big bottle of tequila I did okay so I said we good now yeah but do you ever like um both of you guys you know you ever because you're you're literally your job is to make other people happy like they say that your way to get into heaven is to do

something for people who can't do nothing for you that's literally your job because your your job is to make somebody laugh that literally probably can't make you laugh and but that's the relationship like i feel like if i get to make you laugh but it makes me feel good about myself we completed that relationship and that's what makes that work for me and i'm happy that they're getting what they need for me but I couldn't do it if I wasn't getting what I needed from doing comedy that was hard I think she's laughing so look three is one lucky number we did it's the anniversary. Let's do it. Another shot? It's the anniversary of an NRE album.

Thank you. I got an album that turned 21. This album is the most important album to me because this is my album that I stepped out on my own. We made The War Report. It was a classic album and Capone got locked up and I had to go on my own so I actually

made this and if it would have failed I would have been the blame and it worked and I still wasn't the blame but that's the way the shit works but for it to turn 21 years yesterday. Which means it's 21 years that we know each other as well.

Yeah, because I mentioned you in our E albums. And I'm sorry, big up to DJ Khaled because I've really been seeing him for a lot these past couple of weeks. and he's brought up Drink Chance before but this time he's like what's up with EFM man? What's up with Crazy Hood? He knows the beginning of my story. He knows of my struggle. Okay great story. Where's he at?

I'm just saying I just never heard him that passionately so I want to big him up. I also want to big up something. Big him up and stop it. I also want to big up something because I would like to Apologize to people who watch the Rick Ross interview You know that these episodes are coming out of sync Whenever you hear this shit, I want to say sorry because I looked at myself and I said geez that we

I'm gonna be honest and listen after that I didn't want to be that guy. I was there. I lived it. Yeah, come on. That's not a shot. I'm going to be honest. And listen, after that house episode, this is a shot. That's not a shot, bro. That's not a shot. If we didn't go pussy-fishing around here, brother. Go, John G. Go, John G. So I'm going to be a real nigga.

Hold on, hold on, everybody. Come on, D. Come on, D. Come on, D. I'm going to be a real person. Rick Ross, you deserved a better interview than that. What happened was we was drinking 6 o'clock in the morning I I held it down to the middle of interview now you did a great job and so in the middle of the interview what happened was they wouldn't give us the champagne bottle they kept pouring it for us so when they kept pouring it for us we didn't have none of our liquor we had none of our liquor so I don't want to make excuses I want to you know be you know great to my

fans and say you know for beer What is this certain people just keep saying great fucking Rick Ross in the and I appreciate that but I wasn't on my a-game You held it down so they know it's not not held it down first of all we're show called drink chance Yes, we should get drunk and sometimes it doesn't work out. That's what being drunk is. Right. You know? It doesn't work out sometimes, people. Listen, we did a special podcast episode called the High Episode. And the goal was to eat edibles and smoke and drink and then do the podcast.

Right. He couldn't do this, man. It happens. It was so sensical. Like, if I was as fucked up as him, that whole episode would have been horrendous. You know what the crazy shit is? When me and Ian Finn, it's never we both fucked up. It's always either you're fucked up or I'm fucked up.

But somebody's got to be. You know, but it should be. Remember the Petey Crack episode? You fell asleep. I walked away. I went to sleep. And you think about it. But to a degree, that's asleep I walked away to a degree that's kind of how it should be somebody's got my name that's the point like I'm trying to tell people like if you're a fan and we're not making it

we're not if you're a fan what we doing like don't get mad when we actually do what we say right do it yeah yeah yeah you can't get mad at that that is the product yeah that's not a real thing. You know what I'm saying? We drink champs. Sometimes too much. Which is the point. You have to drink it all. So we just want to let the people know, man, we out here working hard.

As of now, we got episodes coming from Nas. Come on. Relax, buddy. Relax, buddy. Master P, Russ. We got a whole bunch of big episodes. We want to announce it on the, come on, everybody's going to listen to this motherfucking interview. So we want to announce it on this. And we've been having fun, man.

We've been doing it. I so much appreciate you for coming through, man. You're a legend. Our game is about bigging up legends, bigging up people who's been seasoned. You know what I mean? People feel like the longer you've been

in this game, like I said, people call you washed up, but I want to call us seasoned. I want to call us classics. I want to call us legends. You know what I'm saying? As opposed to people that,

you know, I've already listened to a person who's been in the game 20 years and a person who's been in the game 20 years and a person who's been in the game for two days, any day. Because I would rather your experience. And unfortunately, we live in a world where that's the exact opposite.

These people, they want to listen to, you know, God bless these city girls, but these, God damn it. What the fuck is going on? These girls, I'm walking, they probably, I see the bitch light a cigarette with a pussy these city girls they got shit this we live in a different generation

absolutely tell that quality of the rap, they got Starbucks in Harlem right now. It's a fact. Mocha Frappuccinos. That's not like a song. Mocha Frappuccino. Hey. Mocha Frappuccino. And there's nothing wrong with growth. Like Jada said in that line, take them to the Gucci store, show them the loafs.

Hood niggas, I'm just showing you growth. You know what I mean? So growth is good, man. You need a Starbucks. OK, so now I'm going to end this on this one. You did an interview with Sway, and Snoop forgave Iggy. Because Iggy has said something about Snoop, and Snoop said, I forgave you, bitch.

Just like that. And you was like, and you said, see, well, Snoop ain't Snoop no more. Snoop, you said, see, the, Snoop ain't stupid no more. Snoop, you said, see, the rappers, they start off hardcore. Yeah, listen, I've always had a love-hate relationship with some of the philosophy in rap. You know, things talking about, we keep it gangster. We hardcore. We gangsters.

We killers. Like Havoc said, no matter how much loot I get, I'm staying in the projects. He didn't live in the projects when he said that, right? Right. But my point being, as much as you predicate yourselves on being hard, at the end of the day, you niggas are reciting poetry. Yes. Niggas will start smiling after a while.

It's profitable to smile. Because all them niggas start out hard, but you start smiling, now we can put you In a ba-ba-ba-ba-ba I'm happy That's it Real quick Real quick Can we promote the podcast

Absolutely It's called Spears and Steinberg It's available through iTunes slash Apple Google Play Spotify And spearsburg.com.

Fuck with your boy Aries on Cameo. Pay that money, get the celebrity show. Oh, I fuck with Cameo. I fuck with Cameo, yes. Yeah, so look me up on Cameo, and Instagram, and all of that shit. Yeah, Salute, let me just tell y'all something, man. Once again, I want to salute y'all, because this is about y'all, and y'all...

Now I'm going to give you some comedy character real quick. Before we do the shot, You just did your salute. Let me bring my Italian nigga to this. The half a fan? The half a fan. I'm gonna take this fucking opportunity. Fucking men amongst men. There's no fucking boys here.

Alright, so we're gonna take this fucking shot. We're gonna do some of this, some of that. You're gonna do a shot so fucking good you're gonna get up and walk out of them fucking doors. Okay, I gotta take a baby's picture. Is this it? We good? Yeah, we take a picture? Okay, picture and drop?

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Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun. This week on Dope Labs, Titi and I dive into the world of probiotics, the hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing. With expert insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Thank you.