Drink Champs - Episode 173 w/ Jeezy

Episode Date: September 6, 2019

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On this episode we welcome Drink Champs alumni, Jeezy! Back for the 2nd time, the champs chop it up with Jeezy about owning his masters, his evolution as a businessman, the origins of the group Boyz N Da Hood and the story of how he signed to Def Jam and much much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is your boy N.O.R.E What up, it's DJ E.F.N. And this is Drink Champs Yappy yamma make some noise And right now we have a repeat offender of Drink Champs The brother came here, he gave us his all the first time he came here. So he's back. And it's a bittersweet thing because every time I Google his name,

everything is saying that this is his last album. Oh, come on. He's bowing out. He's saying that this is my last one. It's one of my best ones, but it's my last one. He's a hustler. He's an ambitionarist. I don't even know He's a hustler. He's an ambitionarist. I don't even know if that's a word.

We make it. Ambitionarist. Yes, sir. He gives you ambition. He makes hustlers happy. He makes street niggas happy. When street niggas see him win, they feel like they winning. I feel like I'm winning.

This man has stead here through the test of time. And he's saying he's going to bow out. In case you didn't know who I'm talking about, we're talking about the incredible, the hustler, your motherfucking Jeezy! Now, Jeezy, I got to go straight to it. When I'm Googling

it, I'm like, because I feel like I retired too, right? Now, but hear me out. I feel like I retired too, right? Yeah. But hear me out. I feel like I retired from the bullshit. Like, meaning, like, I hate in-stores. Like, in-stores?

I don't think they even exist anymore. Yeah, it does, man. That shit is horrible. That shit's horrible, man. In-stores? Like, I hate in-stores. So, that's what I kind of retired from, like, doing in-stores. I don't really drop albums no more.

So when you say, I want to wrap my head around it completely. So when you say retired, that's it? Musically, you're talking about? Yeah, man, for me, you know, we're going to just do this with Nori, then we're going to have a whole other conversation about this. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Seriously, though.

But I will say this. You know, I just recently got all my masters back. You know what I'm saying? Wow. That's big. That's big. Wow. Make some noise for that.

That was first and foremost. Before I had another father, we had to get the business right. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because when I jumped on the porch, I was first and foremost before I had another father. Right. We had to get the business right. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because when I jumped off the porch, I was, you know, bossing. I ain't never worked for nobody. Right. You know, I did real shit like cut grass in the neighborhood.

Right. Throw watermelons and shit like that. You know, help my uncle put cement in the fucking wheelbarrow. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? When I got into the game, that shit was different because it was like, I really took a deal because I didn't want to go to the penitentiary. Oh, wow. At the time. You know what I'm saying? When I got into the game, that shit was different because it was like, I really took a deal because I didn't want to go

to the penitentiary at the time. You know what I'm saying? I needed a way out. That was me too. You know, I took a deal because I was on parole.

I was on parole. So I signed a contract. My father at the time kept looking at me like, yeah, you're a rapper. Like my father, he didn't believe me. But yeah, I'm sorry.

So you took a deal because I'm just trying to board a jail guy. No, that was for me though, my nigga. For me, it was like, it was now believe me. But, hey, I'm sorry. So you took a deal because I'm just trying to avoid the jail, got it? Nah, that was for me, though, my nigga. For me, it was like, it was now or never. You know what I'm saying? I was trying to get my mom a crib. You know, that he was on.

Nigga was getting indicted. And it was surreal. And it was like, shit, I had this chance to be on. So I had a lot of responsibility. So, you know, my business was good. But it could have been great. Because I just think my momentum was up Just imagine if I would have been like

No, I ain't taking no deals still put out a record. My first album was recorded before I even signed the papers You know I'm saying I had thug motivation in the can it was done Well, I think I didn't have on there was hold so then go into Def Jam. That's how me and hold linked up Was it different once L.A. Reid left? Def Jam? Yeah. I mean, just the game period because I know from the beginning

of you landing and L.A. Reid, you picking up L.A. Reid in a Lambo and him telling you to do whatever you're doing to stop. You know what I'm saying? And it hit all of us. For me, when I was at Def Jam, Lior, who signed me, then L left. Yo it's crazy cuz Leor

Was trying to sign me to Nah he was was he at Atlantic? No he was at Def Jam first No he was at Def Jam but he went somewhere else because he tried to sign me at Atlantic then he went to Atlantic So that's how I sat on Lior. Wow. So I'm sitting with Lior. So Atlantic, Def Jam. There's like four labels on the table. Right. And I sit down with Lior and I'm just sitting down.

I'm just looking at him like I'm not signing these papers. I ain't working for nobody. And this motherfucker look at me and say, yo, Jeezy, fucking sign with me. If anybody come at you and smack him like a fucking slug okay okay but it was like with LA it was genuine because I just feel like he came they started the face he understood a lot of that shit was Shakira man right A lot of that shit was Shakir, man. Right. You know what I'm saying? Shakir Stewart, a lot of that shit was Shakir Stewart. Rest in peace, rest in peace. Let's make some noise for Shakir Stewart. Yeah, yeah.

And then, and then, and then, let's have a moment of silence, please. Everybody be quiet. Please. Rest in peace, Shakir Stewart, man. That's right. Definitely. But a lot of that was Shakir,

because he was seeing what I was doing in the club. You know what I'm saying? Like, because I'm going to be out and shit. All these Lambos and Ferraris and shit, and you know, just kicking it, and that was my thing. You know, I just saying? Because I'm going to be out and shit. All these Lambos and Ferraris and shit. You know, just kicking it. And that was my thing. I had these big ass chains with Jeezy on it. You know what I'm saying?

They used to roll me out, baby. I was one big diamond. You feel me? Because I was just spending all my money on chains and cars when I was trying to get on. And I used to go to the strip club. And that's how I used to get my buzz on. It was crazy because I just ran into magic early on the beach. You know,

kicked it with him. We was just chopping it up for like an hour talking about old days. Magic, we used to throw in Magic City. And that's how I really got on. It was like, she killed him,

she come to Magic. And I was going to Magic when I was younger so I understood how it worked. So when I started to work the music, it was just like, you go in there,

you take care of the girls. You know what I'm saying? You make sure the DJ's straight and you wear every chain you got in your care of the girls. You know what I'm saying? You make sure the DJ's straight. And you wear every chain you got in your jewelry box. You know what I'm saying? And you go and you fuck up $100,000 every night until they know your name. And that was my thing. That's just not normal shit, though.

The way he just said that, like, yeah, you know, we're just going to spend $100,000. Like, normal niggas don't do that, my nigga. That's what I'm saying. When you're trying to get out of a situation. Out of that life. Out of that life. Don't do that When you think about What you think about own music especially back then like trust me y'all was doing your shit But he just thought means of me as a millions of dollars

You know I'm saying so you don't even understand the work like niggas just showed up and the money was there All right, so that's all we was working towards and I am going legal base Yeah, and I was like with me. It was like I'm not going to jail right you know I'm not doing no 20 years I'm you know that shit ain't that ain't me you know I'm saying like I won't even be effective you know sit behind but I have my mind thing I was like what a player sounds you know this one was friendly this one was friendly. This one was friendly. Your shit was aggressive, nigga. You was over there popping some aggressive champagne, my nigga.

You know what I'm saying? Let me pause some A's for you, Jeezy. You know what I mean? Because let me just tell you something. Something that Nas said. Recently. Recently. Shout out to the God, Nas.

Yeah, shout out to God, Nas. He was like, you know, some brothers, like, you know, got to know when to stop. I don't feel like it's time for you to stop. As far as music? As far as music. No, no, no. I don't feel like it. I mean, for me, though, like, I'm going to keep it a buck.

Like, I just really wanted to get my, I'm about my business. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to be working for nobody. So, to me, requiring my, getting my masters back and getting my shit set up the way I wanted it first because I wasn't under pressure was first and foremost. You know, we can talk if it's life change, but if not. Goddamn it. Goddamn it.

Make some noise for that. Goddamn it. So, sometimes like, like, personally, 2 Chainz said this one time 2 Chainz said man when he was coming out he was like man I want to bust the rhymes and get out the way damn and he's he literally said that he said I want to bust the rhymes get out the way because he was a tall skinny member he was tall and skinny and with dreads and he was tall and skinny with dreads so I remember him saying that and obviously that was the wrong thing to say but what I'm saying is

sometimes when you make it everywhere, like, do you continue to keep going or do you go to other ventures? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, eventually, right? Eventually, the fans will get... Right. They'll get so used to you

that they don't appreciate you as much. You know what I'm saying? This album that you're dropping right now could be better than the first one. But the fact is that they're going to be like, oh, that's Jeezy. He's supposed to make a good album. That's kind of fucked up. You make so much good music that when you make good music

it's like, ah. You ever been through that? That's crazy. You know what's crazy? The nigga Cube told me a long time ago. He's like, man. Ice Cube. I ever you ever went through that that's great. It was crazy The nigga cube told me a long time ago. He's like my ice cube I was doing a record with him. He was in the studio. He's like yo He's like, yo, you gotta stay in like this game is different. You go you go you gonna lose fans I know you might gain the moment game, but you're going to lose fans. But he was telling me, never lose yourself.

And to me, it's just like, you know what I'm saying, a lot of people don't know that music is my talent because I understand it. I understand how to connect with people. I've always been that dude. Even when I was growing up, all the older cats would tell me they been this. Like, I'm finna murder this nigga. I'm like, no you can't. We're going to do it like this. You know what I mean?

We gonna do this because I just, that's how my mind works. So I always process shit. That was my one up. Because a lot of people don't think. You know what I'm saying? I'm a thinker. So for me, it's just like,

I knew that I had to do music to do business. You feel what I'm saying? Because music is my talent, but business is my passion. You feel what I'm saying? Because I my talent but business is my passion you can't say because I'm a hustler I understand like I ran trap houses and I did all this shit I didn't get caught like when I say you ever seen a narco in the booth I mean it's like all the mother you know fucking Pablo Escobar they got a call you know what I'm saying so for me there's no difference if you start up doing

something this's illegal, whatever it is, and you make it through the ranks, that means, you know, you thought your way through it. So for me, I was just thinking my way through

to be able to do business. So it was just like, when he told me that I was already in the mind frame, now I get it. There's no problem because I'm going to do other shit too. Like,

I'm not going to let nobody box me in and tell me like, I can only just be a great artist. My daughter would never wake up and just take it that's all father was like I might as well stopped it being a great brother you know I'm saying a great son you know I'm saying a great a great cuz and that was it it's like now I can do anything it's my life so when I even got into music I was already thinking the things that I want to do when I sat down with ho I went to the magic show with whole one one year like magic city no no magic show

but I went with him and I was just like yo yo this shit is crazy it's over the show man yeah so and they had rock awareness yeah okay when this rock aware booth this shit was crazy And it was crazy Because when me and him He's like yo let's take a walk And we was walking Through the magic show

And everybody was like Yo Jeezy And they was champion I was like what the fuck He's like yo we love you man I was just like okay He's like no we wanna It's me and Ho

Walking He's like we wanna tell you You know Thank you for You know putting money In everybody's pockets And looking out for everybody. And I'm like, how the fuck I do that? You know what I'm saying?

But what I didn't understand was they were selling the snowman shirts. So when you go in these people's booths and they stack to the moon and they buying them in bulk. I'm trying to sell records. You feel what I'm saying? Did you trademark it at the time or no? No. Oh, wow.

Greg Street told me to, but I was like, yo, man, I'm trying to sell records. I'm going to sell. You know what I mean? It's like somebody trying to tell you to sell green, and you sell the same thing. I was like, nigga, I don't know about this shit. So for me, you know what I'm saying, that was my first indication. But when I went back to Hove, I was like, yo, I think I want to do this. And so he put me with the Russians that was doing rock and roll at the time.

And I came up with USDA, which rock and roll at the time. And I came up with USDA, which was my line at the time. So that was my first real business venture. And I remember the wrestling company was like, yo, you know, this is crazy. The government shut us down and we're not going to be able to do your brand. And at that time,

I had already had product pressed up and everything. And I was like, what's the problem? He said the government put a cease and desist on USDA so I'm sitting in Miami, I'm like at the crib like shit. So he's like what we gonna do? So I said give me 20 minutes I'll call you back. I called him back, I said yo this is what we gonna do. We gonna change it to

8732. He's like okay but what does that mean? I said well back in the day, if you didn't want nobody to know what you was doing, if you paid somebody you would use it right the numbers and the letters and you swap them out so that's how I did that and that was like my first like successful business venture and I saw I was making money when I was sleeping I was like you I like this you know I'm saying a lot of people didn't know that I was you know making moves cuz it just looks smooth

people say that was like that was like you know, making moves because it just looked smooth. You feel what I'm saying? That was like my first indication. Like, hold up. I can really do business outside of, you know, this. But it went back to what Q was saying. It was just like, I'm not going to let just one thing I did great define me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to put in this position so I can do anything.

You feel what I'm saying? So it's just like, whether it's records, clothing, whatever it is, if I'm happy about it and I'm passionate about it, I'm winning. And you were in Jinky Promoters, too, right? Huh? You was in Jinky Promoters, too, right? Yeah. And that was another thing. I just really wanted to rock with Q because I wanted to understand what it was he was doing. Because if you really look at the group, the only two successful people was him and Dre.

Well, he's the buddy passing away. Yeah, he two successful people was him and Dre. Dre. Well, he's E, but he passed away. Yeah, he's E, but he died, of course, but if you look at Dre,

you know, Dre hit a lick in my eyes, you know what I'm saying? No disrespect. Super lick. He hit a lick. Super lick. I respect Q,

because Q got out here and grinded, and Q's still a man of the people, you know what I'm saying? You see this big three shit, you know that shit? Movies,

QVision. You know what I'm saying? QVision, everything he was doing, but I was picking up game for him, so I really wanted, he called me, he was like, yo what I'm saying Cube Vision Everything he was doing But I was picking up Game for him So I really wanted He called me

He was like yo I had somebody Who was going to do the movie They backed out Can you do it I ain't never acted In my life You know what I'm saying

Oh word Yeah That's one of my favorite Movies though I'm like reading this shit I'm just like yo This is my first time I've ever seen a script

In my life You know what I'm saying And it was on site I was in LA He said can you Pull up to the set I pulled up and I was shooting a movie in our Right well, I wanted a game though. He's I'm saying I just wanted to understand how he worked So I just kind of you know stuck around and I start seeing but it also taught me a lot of shit too because it's like Q lives a real life. You know I'm saying it but he's still productive. That of shit too because it's like Q lives a real life you know what I'm saying but he's still productive

that's my thing it's just like I don't care if you're selling records t-shirts socks whatever if you're being productive

you're productive bro like you know what I'm saying like you know what the crazy thing is I realize like even drug dealers like you know

oh shit you just take big time you know. Oh, shit. You just take big time. You know what I'm saying? It's adrenaline. Like, once you make a, like me, I used to come outside and try to make enough money for the day. And then most of the time, I would go inside after I made enough money for the day. But a lot of times, I would make enough money for the day and act like I did.

Right. And I would just stay outside because I was addicted to the adrenaline. Hip hop is the closest thing to I was addicted to the adrenaline. Hip-hop is the closest thing to being like that, with the adrenaline. When you drop an album, it's a certain thing that an artist feels. You know what I'm talking about. Sometimes I want to think, am I addicted more

to the money or am I addicted to being busy? No, it's like Mitch, baby, you love the game. Right, okay. A couple of casts from shows, there's so Mitch, baby, you love the game. Right, okay. You know what I'm saying? Okay. But, you know, a couple casts from shoulders, like, there's so many ways to diversify that shit. Even yourself,

I was talking to somebody about you today, I was talking to Dave East, I was just like, you're really happy for Norris because he flipped it. Right, yes. You know what I'm saying?

You flipped it, you're still in the culture, you're still sipping champagne and doing your shit, and you still got your hands on it. You know what I'm saying? Niggas got to come through and see you, but you're understanding.

That's right. That's it, G. That's it, G. That's all right. Go ahead. I'm blocking with you. My bad. Okay.

Continue. But that's what it's about. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you was on the block and one product slowed up, you got to find something else to sell. You might not even know nothing about it, but you got to do the research,

and when you get in the groove, shit, you back. find something else to sell. You might not even know nothing about it, but you got to do the research. And when you get in, you get in the groove, you back. I think the takeaway from Q and even Ice-T is that you get to a place where you're an artist, you love to make music, but you don't rely on the music. You do it when you want to, how you want to do it. But see, that's the thing, bro. I told him

I was corporate thuggin' out the gate. I ain't never said shit about being a rapper. He heard me one time say I was a great rapper. Say I was great as trash. He said he was corporate thuggin' out the gate. I ain't never said shit about being a rapper. Right. You heard me one time say I was the greatest rapper. Right, right, right. Say I was the greatest trap. You said you was corporate thuggin'. Yeah, right. That's it.

Corporate thuggin'. And I told him I was thug-motivated. That's what I was doing. I'll do that shit from a pulpit, bro. Right. I'll do that shit in the Church of the Hood all day. When I get in the dollar, because that's who I am.

Like, if you ever know anybody that know me, I don't give a fuck what they're doing. I'm going to sit there and be like, man, you can do that better. Matter of fact, let me tell know me, I don't give a fuck what they're doing. I'm going to sit there and be like, man, you can do that better. Matter of fact, let me tell you anything. I don't give a fuck if it's a book, if it's a quote, if it's some knowledge. I'm going to give it to you,

because I want to see you win. That's how I get my fulfillment. It's not about the money. I can get money when I can't get none. I can get money when I can't get no pussy, my nigga. I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? I can do that.

Second hand. Make some noise. Do that. Make some noise. Do that. I know I get money when I can't get no pussy money That's that's who I am I'm a hustler but give me a game Or let people understand what I learned to me is the fulfillment because money coming to go is paper Right, you know saying you ever been in a situation where you stack up half a million dollars and hide it somewhere and then the rain fuck it up and you go get it and the shit sludge? Like, it's fucked up. You got to get back on your feet.

You can't let that determine, you know, where you are at that moment can't determine the rest of your life because people have that shit and go crazy. So even with fame or having, you know, momentum as being an artist, it's like, if it ain't the same no more, like, that don't mean you're not as great as you but don't lie you care about the artistry because

you got lyrics but see that's the thing bro like i ain't never i if you if you pay attention to my my rhythm i talk when i got something to say right i ain't chasing it like that you know i'm saying like i gotta keep it like i ain't going in the booth like i'm about to kill you don't gotta chase it but if it's inherent no but listen to anything I would say I never win the booth like yo this the hardest shit ever I'm about to kill this thing on this verse like I don't care bro I just say what I feel cuz that's what I feel at the moment and that's it if people like it they like it but it's like I'm not chasing in the sense now do

I want my shit to be I want my execution to be great Because I know I'm good at that So if I put something together In my marketing plan as me I want to see it All the way through You care about the product At the end Yeah

By the way If I'm a hustler And I'm on the block If I'm in the store I'm going to whip that shit right What's up Take nobody No bullshit

Working Be like yo this is me You know what I'm saying I'm going to make sure The work is good But if somebody down the block Got it for a cheaper price You know

It's whoever they want to Shot with But I'm still working You know what I could tell Like you was just like Raised right of work is good but if somebody down the block got it for a cheaper price you know it's whoever they want to shout it with but I'm still working you know what I could tell you was just like Ray's right like Ray's street

like the way you show love to Master P the way you show love to Ice Cube the way you show love to Puff Daddy it's like that was one of the things

that stood out when I started Trello like I actually heard Puff talking and it's like so many people don't look up to people who did it before them like how did you develop

that type of attitude I mean well for one I grew up like listening to P you know I'm saying and watching what they was doing like I was going to the to the tape store every Tuesday cuz that nigga was like dropping two three joints you know when you said P after you said puff I'm talking about Master P yeah so Master P he was dropping he was dropping the thing but what I'm saying? When you said P, I thought you said about Puff. No, Master P. You said about Master P. Okay, all right, cool. So Master P, he was dropping like... There's two P's out here. You got people sticking with your P's. So he was dropping the thing. But what I liked about Master P the most

is I saw off top he was hustling. Yeah, super hustling. He knew how to package it and make superstars, but that was his niche. Then you had somebody like Puff that did the same thing, and that's another thing to me because I feel like Puff had his run in music.

But if you look at his run now, you can see that that's really who he was. That was just a stepping stone. Like a second right here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So you understand it. Right. And you see these cats and they do it, but you got to know they went through a lot of shit too. Like Pete went through a lot of shit.

Right. He went through some times where shit wasn't all good. He had to figure it out. Same as right and um for me i respect that i respect the longevity you know what i'm saying i don't respect you know it ain't who the strongest who stay in this shit the longest you know what i'm saying because it's like you got cats that's been in the streets but they come and they go and it's like they're in the rap game too hell yeah you know what i'm saying they come and they go but it's just like at the end of the day you know you can be hot but you know i know, I'm more about legacy.

Me too. You know what I'm saying? I see a motherfucker coming to get me cocky as hell. Right. And got two years, bro. And it's over. Yeah. You're worried, bro.

But it's like the streets, though. Yeah. You can be in the streets and see somebody come up and kill it. I never actually did that like that. And turn the whole town up. Right. And some things get snatched up as a whole other nigga come up. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So you watch the cycle. And by the way, it's crazy. We're talking about Magic City. I swear, I've seen for a decade, at least two decades, of watching different cats

run that whole thing. Like, come in there. All the ice, all the cars, all the girls, all the money. He gone. Somebody else step up.

You know what I'm saying? It's like a revolver. He gone. He gone for years and years. So I respect the cats that have Jevity. You know what I'm saying? They come like a revolver. He going for years and years. So I respect the cats that have Jevity. You know what I'm saying? They come in and they stick in.

And one thing about I really rock with Puff, he knows how to get the coaches together to make moves. Right. You know what I'm saying? He's a good motivation. Yeah, it's a different motivation. It's crazy because I was in my crib and that message that's on on the trailer

was a message like he called me one morning it was like fucking 8 o'clock I'm like yo the fuck what's going on

8 o'clock in the morning you know what I'm saying and I ain't pick right he like that I ain't pick up and he left me that message oh wow you know what I'm saying

so he old school he still leave messages oh okay that was a real message oh you know the boys know I'm looking at this shit and I'm looking out the window and I'm boys know me. I'm looking at this shit,

and I'm looking out the window, and I'm listening to the message. I'm like, yo, this nigga on some shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't even say that shit. That was a fly message, but I'm not gonna lie. I be mad as hell when people leave me a message.

I'm like, nigga, it's 2019, nigga. Text me, nigga. What the fuck is you doing? Just thinking like, yo, I just left. That was a fly message, though. I got a tan. All right.

Dubai, Mount D. I listen to this shit like, yeah, nigga, you know what I mean? But this is me again wanting to share shit with the world. You know what I'm saying? This is where my partner just left me. You know what I'm saying? On my voicemail. I want y'all to hear this shit.

Now, I had this shit for a minute. And I was just like, yo, what am I going to do with it? And I heard the joint I put it on. I was like, yo, this just make me feel awake. So then I was sitting down. I was listening to it. And I was like, yo, this just make me feel awake. So then I was sitting down. I was listening to it. And I was like, you know, I'm a fan of the Narcos shit. I was just like, yo, I don't want that shit.

That's the Narcos music? No, this is some whole other shit. We couldn't even find the languages. It was so crazy. Okay, cool, yeah. You know what I'm saying? One of my homegirls was playing it one day. And I was like, yo, what the fuck is that?

And I ended up just listening to the shit and kept it. And I put this shit together. And, you know, I was out in L.A. and I was talking to one of the guys that worked with me and I was like, yo, who did the Narcos trailer? And he told me, I was like,

go find him, I want him to do my shit. And they went and done my shit. But think about that. Y'all make it from the hood. You know what I'm saying? They really went through the ranks and then you get in a position

where you can make that shit happen. They talking about, this is shit that's about Pablo Escobar's life, you know, Felix Guerrero's life, all these bros. And then you get to be with the people

that actually put their shit together and make it real. That's what it's about to me. Like, the money's going to come, bro. Like, this fucking culture. No, that's what goes back to what you've been saying. Whether you say you have bars or not,

you care about the art. That's the point you're trying you say you have bars or not you care about the art that's the point yeah he's trying to say yeah no i care i care about the the the the the packaging the work and the effort is put into it i wouldn't even call it art it's just like no it's art it's art it's art that's all i'm a street nigga too so i had to i had to come with that same realization yeah yeah that's weird you care about the aesthetics like like i like i tell people i look at it as art, but to me, it's just like, the effort that's put into it,

because it's almost like, I'm not going in to say, I got one record, this shit jamming, I'm going to put some, ten songs around and put an album out. Like, every song,

I'm actually going in. Gotta be. Yeah. You know why? You know why? Let me just tell you, I'm sorry to cut you off is the reason why is you're now the OG right like but I'm gonna take some real shit yeah ain't no reason to buy gangsta what I mean by that you know what I mean by status wise like a new OG hip hop now

you like you you know so I see these young dudes saying they're the new young Jeezy. Right. Like, did you see that? Yeah, all the time. All right, like that's good. But I respect it for two reasons. I respect it for, because they made their own way. A lot of these cats going independent, which is small, something I wish I could have did in the beginning.

But then it's- I feel like that's what you wish you was doing. Yeah, but then it's the way they came in the game, too. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know, even for's the way they came in the game, too You feel I'm saying like You know even for me when I came in the game, I left the door a lot. I gave niggas my phone For me like this is what you gonna do as far as like You know

Putting the mixtapes out, You know what I'm saying? Being consistent with certain producers. That was the formula. So if you in the streets, and the streets changed and it's not the same, like the integrity is not the same, so you got to find something else to do.

Quite naturally, people are going to go where the money's at. You feel what I'm saying? And the money's in music. You know what I'm saying? And the money's in music. You know what I'm saying? So it's like they're creating this shit but it's just like it ain't really the art.

It's a hustle now. So if you get a record and you can go around you know what I'm saying you know half the year and pick up whatever you that's better than

standing on the block risking your life and your freedom. Oh hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's more of a hustle. So that's the part I respect because it's like if you take something That's better than standing on the block, risking your life and your freedom. Oh, hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's more of a hustle. So that's the part I respect because it's like if you take something and you make it your hustle,

there was somebody else's art, if you will, because when we was trying to get in the game, New York didn't even play our music. You feel what I'm saying? They wasn't fucking with us like that. The South at all. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like. Nah, you was. I got to say.

I got in. I got to gotta say you was one of them He's at that point where it was started Always following you a costume in album again Right, right, right. Flex dropped the bomb. With Akon? With Akon? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I always felt like you and Akon should have made an album together. Yeah, man. I always felt like that. That can still happen. That can still happen. Like, I always felt.

It was so ill, man, because I was doing, like, Trap or Die shit. And Akon's brother brought me that record in the studio. Boom. Yeah, and it had the hook on it. Big Amount. And I wasn't even going gonna put that on 101 Wow He got leaked. Wow. I'm got leaked. He just was on the songs. There was only let's make some noise airport niggas like yo ain't calling young Jeezy. Ain't calling young Jeezy. First of all that ad lib itself is like a producer

ain't calling young Jeezy. And it's crazy cause that night I remember I was recording I did like three records and Shakira came by the studio and after Boo brought me the record I did the first verse and we was all going to the club we was going to Visions and you know we got in the cars we left went to Visions party

and shit we came back to the studio and like Shakiraquille was like, play me what you did tonight. So I played him like a couple of records and I got to the, I said, I did this one, but I ain't finished it yet because I really don't like it. And I played Soul Survivor and he just gave me this look. Like nigga, if you don't finish that shit. So I went in the booth and I finished it. That's how the song got done. You know what I'm saying?

So I wasn't even going to use it. Like I can keep it a book. I wasn't even going to use it. Like, I can keep it a buck. I wasn't even going to use it. That's crazy. Because I was on like Trap or Die, Get Your Mind Right, all that type of shit

because that was, that's what was working for me. Right. And the whole thing was, you know, you didn't want to be, like, I just felt like that was going

the commercial route. You know what I'm saying? So it was almost like. Look at that. My bad. That was for the next question. That's for the next question. My bad. I was setting it up. I fucked up. I fucked it all up. I'm saying? So it was almost like. What the fuck is that? My bad, no, I was, that was for the next question. That was for the next question, my bad. I was setting it up, man.

I fucked up, I fucked it all up, D.C., I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but at least I was trying, at least I was trying, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, but I wasn't even going to use the record, man. But it's crazy because I never had a fan in Africa in my life. Mm.

Until that record. Oh, you're Akon Big in Africa. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't realize how far the reach of music. Yeah, the reach of the world I reach. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I far the reach of music. Yeah, the reach of the world. You know what I'm saying? And they're like the Larry Flynn.

Yeah, but it's like, you know, when you in Atlanta. I'm headed there next month. When you in Atlanta and you sitting there and you making music and people, you know, around the way love you sit in the hood and, you know, in the clubs, you're not looking at the rest of the world. You know what I'm saying? So that shit took me across the world. I didn't even I mean before it happened It was

It was You know it's instantaneous And the video That was the one You did the Pay the Fall theme Right Yeah I came up with that

On the On my tour bus man And I was just like Yo Cause I love that movie You know I was in that movie too I was wondering They never called me

Like You didn't call me I couldn't get a scene Nigga like Something not as fucking as you. It was crazy because I reached out

to Cameron, shot shot to Cameron because I was like, yo, if I get Cameron, this shit is silly. Wow. And he came through

and shot shot to Beanie Sigel. And even like, Hov and fucking coming through the set. Meets came through the set. Yeah, I heard that.

It was crazy. It was fun. Like, I never seen nothing like that. Like, it was Brooklyn, Harlem. Man, you had the city. Yeah, it was crazy. You had the set. Yeah, I heard that. It was crazy. It was fun. I never seen nothing like that. It was Brooklyn, Harlem. Man, you had the city.

Yeah, it was crazy. You had the city. You was one of the first South people that people fully related to, people we understood, especially the hustlers. You know what I'm saying? Right. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.

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Everyone knew you was from BMF, but it was kind of like you stood like away because I don't know but this is like the first time I kind of like seen you like full fledged claim it like in front your fans in front well I wouldn't even say claim it just like a lot of people don't know like me and me and dude was like real friends you feel I'm saying when you say dude you talking about me yeah like Zippo we was real friends like me and Hov you know what I'm saying? When you say dude, you're talking about me. Me, yeah. Like Zippo, we was real friends. Like me and Hov, you know what I'm saying?

Right, right. That's who we were. But, you know, keeping it a buck, you know, just what it is is like a lot of things went on that people don't understand. And a lot of that shit had to do with a lot of my legacy, you feel what I'm saying? Just as far as who I am as a person, even with my music.

It's like some shit you can't walk away from. When you say the legend of the snowman, I feel like it almost been disrespectful, you know what I'm saying? Just as far as who I am as a person, even with my music. It's like some shit you can't walk away from. When you say the legend of the snowman, I feel like it almost been disrespectful, you know what I'm saying? Not to at least insert that in there. Because if you look at the trailer, that's all the shit that I really went through to become who I am today. And it's just like, how do you disregard that? The journey. Yeah, that's a part of the journey. And I saw what it did for hip-hop because it was just like this

My man, you know I'm saying I'm making music and you know, he's a fan of what I'm like He loved my shit, you know saying everybody know that and you know, right when I got on he got any shit Right, so just like now I'm on I'm gonna say place the statute of limitations gone It's like now this is my dude, but it's just like, a lot of people don't know like, fans, you know, you have to stick to the G code. It ain't shit you just talk about like, freely. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't. It ain't nobody's business. But it

was part of my legacy, you feel what I'm saying? As far as who I am, and I never be able to get away from that. So I felt like my last album, you know what I'm saying? I just wanted to bring all things full circle. And it's like, people will see that shit, but not the fucking two-bedroom trailer I lived in with my whole family in the joint.

You know what I'm saying? That I bought for my mother for $3,500. Wow. You feel what I'm saying? Real shit. That's the real trash where I really stayed. But, you know, I wanted to put different pieces of what made me me. You know what I'm saying?

Made you complete. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah, so that was dope. You ever think, well, hold on, you know what? This is the first time I actually felt Trump's tweets. With the ASAP Rocky stuff? I ain't going to lie.

A part of me was like. You felt it in a good way? Yeah, like why not? Nah, nah, get the fuck out of here. Like why not? Like if you wasn't locked up. Nah. You wouldn't want a nigga. Of Yeah, like why not? Nah, nah, get the fuck out of here. Like why not? Like if you was in locked up, you wouldn't want a nigga- Nah, nah, of course, but the way he was flipping it was crazy, man. I ain't gonna lie, he was a little gangster with it.

It was a little hip hop with it. It was like, it was crazy. We do good by you. Nah, he wasn't gangster. He wasn't gangster. But to me, that's a tricky one. Because you don't really know if he doing it just to get a connect- He did say African American. Yeah, he was like, a committee cuz he did say African American my niggas domestically right

you know you ain't sad Rocky of course you want the President of the United States. This the most powerful man in the free world. He's supposed to have been on Air Force One, and he's supposed to have flew homeboy back on that motherfucker. Wow. Nah, but it shows you that the most powerful, supposedly most powerful man. Wait, hold on. I think we should clap for that, though. I ain't gonna lie. Why?

I ain't gonna lie. Because, listen, I'm like, I'm like, because I'm a foul nigga. I'm the type of nigga to be an answer there. No, no, he is. And somebody say something to me, and I might have one. No, but what I'm trying to say is. You know what I'm saying? I don't want He's supposed to be. Because I'm a foul nigga. I'm the type of nigga to be an answer to that. No, no, he is. And somebody say something to me and I might have one. No, but what I'm trying to say is I don't want niggas

to come get me in America, nigga. The supposed most powerful person in the world, in the free world, he calls the government of this country and they don't do shit. It shows you

that our most powerful person in the free world isn't as powerful. Wait, I don't understand what you just said. Wait, say that again? He called the Swedish government. So he basically said he called. He called Sweden. Yeah. And homie ain't pick up his call? No, no. most powerful person in the free world is it is not a problem we have a lot to do with relationships of course real ones you know what I'm saying? Like real ones. You know what I'm saying? So if he's the type of person

that rubbed a lot of people wrong, they're not going to fuck with him. Trump seemed like a nigga that ran off on the plug a couple of times. A couple of times Trump seemed like he was that type of nigga.

If he really wanted to do something for the culture, he would have sent Air Force One over there. Yeah, you're right. He brought the kid back. He would have worked it out. It would have been cool.

You know what I'm saying? That would have been gangsta. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's a secondary state. Somebody would do it. Because even the Kanye shit was like a little left, but when I heard him say he was going to get Larry Hoover out, I'm like, man, that's hard.

Chicago would have loved him better for that. Tell me what you said. That's what Kanye, when he met with Trump, that's what he said? He's going to get Larry Hoover out? He did say that. I didn't know that. Yeah, he said that. Not to say that was his only goal, but for him to even be thinking like that,

you know what I'm saying? That's a real, you know, that's a legend in the right, but, you know, he can be one of the guys to come back and kind of help out a lot of the shit that's going on in Chicago, because he's very influential. You did put on with the city with Kanye. Right now, if you go in the studio with him right now,

he got a MAGA hat on. Yeah. We're going gonna burn that mother i fully support you and your yeezys i even buy the ones I think that's ugly. Right. Some of them, it's like, yo, come on. But you know what? I'm 41. You know what I'm saying?

I'll be 42 this year. So I want to keep up. So I buy the shit. I be like, fuck it. The joints you think are ugly? Yeah. That's terrible. Yeah.

That's terrible. So you're buying them to keep up? I got to keep up sometimes. That's terrible. That's terrible. And my son is 19. He's over here. I'm still wearing them for as well. Yeah, I still do. I Still do that too, but sometimes we want not 100% sure. I admit that. Listen, I don't got no grades. Sometimes, you know, I walk in with a... Hey, hey, hey, relax.

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. I forgot, you know. Where my barber at? My barber even hate on me. That nigga be cutting my hair and looking for grades. I'm like, what type of nigga is you, my nigga? Like, you're supposed to...

So, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes, the older you are, sometimes... And it's good. It's actually good to be out of the loop sometimes. You know what I'm saying? You... How do you feel about that? Out of the loop. You know what I mean?

Like, I don't want to have a city boy summer. Nah. What is that happening right now? Nah. A hot girl summer. What is it? I don't want to be the city boy, my nigga. I'm sorry, my nigga. You keep getting mugged and you... Listen, no? I don't want to be the city boy My nigga I'm sorry my nigga

You keep getting Muggy Listen No I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie I'm saying like You know what's going on right now

I have no idea Right now In the ratchet part of every city Yeah They're having a hot girl summer Or a city boy summer Yes sir So

The city boys Is doing some shit And they're having points This is real shit They're're having points is a game It's like a game, but it's like real life. They're doing it all this that culture shit. We tell you about Yeah, we're you the game this one. I know all the shit like I see some but I see that girl notice She does crazy to get up. Yeah See these four girls they came and they said all I need some Henny's and plan B

All I need is any is the plan B. All I need is any is the plan B all I need is any in a plan B and they said this is actually hard I would actually, I would react to that what is that in the game? it's terrible what they talking about? oh it's terrible but what does that have to do with the game? no what they saying is they want to drink some Henny

no I get what they're saying though oh okay I'm sorry I'm sorry but I thought you were saying it's a whole movement on some... No, it's a real movement. EFN, go look at your Instagram, nigga. Look at your Instagram. There's these wild girls. I'll tell you what.

Won't you post your pic and tell them you're having a city boy summer? A city boy summer. Watch me. Nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

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it's like, it's a whole bunch of girls that their plan is to just go out there and fuck and have a great... Oh, they just cock it? Oh, yeah. They switching it on us.

That's what I'm saying. Women are like the new niggas. Niggas are the new niggas right now. Did you hear what he said? She want Henny and a plan B. Niggas like, she wants you to shoot at the club Switching it on the door. That's gonna say that women are like the new Right now She won't hit me in a plan B. Maybe like she wants you to shoot at the club Yeah, we living in a wild time Like for real my dude so so okay. We got the Kardashians. We got that. Yeah, yeah, let's go. Yeah, I got notes, nigga. I got notes, nigga.

Hold on. Hold on, let me play this for you. Let me play this for you, because I just wanna feel what you feel when you hear this. Oh. Woo! We gon' play the good version on TV This is my

And you already know, dawg Woo! And you already know, dawg These other niggas are stokers Where they re-in' up, yeah I think it's all in focus Woo! They just spend all they money on stroking

They just spend all they money on stroking Oh my god. That's the real Young Jeezy right there. What you hear when you hear that, though? I hear a nigga that was trying to get out of the hood and probably still had fucking, you know, all types of shit. With landfills, Ferraris.

Like, you came into the game different. But a lot of people don't understand. I was really One foot in One foot out I was in a studio And I basically made Passwork Studio My traps

And when I was Working right now I was still going to the fish Throwing duffer bags over You know what I'm saying On everything So it was just like A lot of people didn't know

Like It wasn't It was in real time You walk in the vocal booth It's two three million dollars Sitting there We going through money You know what I'm saying So it's just It three million dollars sitting there. We going through money.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just a different mindset. And you talking about somebody that was having nightmares, you know, about the penitentiary. PSD? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you just, you know, you in it. And you don't know if you're going to make it.

So that guy right there, he was one foot in, one foot out. And that's the guy that would tell you he wasn't a rapper. He was just trying to figure his shit out. You feel what I'm saying? But as you get on, you start making the Soul Survivors, and you start having the hits. You know, things change because they go from that guy

that was doing shows in clubs with, you know, four or five hundred people. Soul Survivor guy was doing fucking... 23,000. No, fucking... What's the shit they do for... Apollo? Summer Jam.

Oh, Summer Jam. Giant Stadium. Yeah, 60,000 people. Mm-hmm. So that was the difference. It happened so fast. You feel what I'm saying? That's a big gap.

That's a big gap. That's what changed, but it's just like now you got a different clientele. Mm-hmm. So now instead of being in the streets where you dealing with street niggas and you just getting all that shit, now you're getting shit from fans. And they want music. And they want good music.

So now you got to work on giving them good music. So now you got to write the go-getters in these different songs because now they got to take stuff and this is what they want from you. Or R. Kelly, go get up. Yeah, right. Let's leave that nigga alone, G right. Let's leave that nigga alone, GZ. Let's leave that nigga alone. But the difference is,

to me, you know, that's in my heart, like, that's who I, like, right now today, shit popped off in here right now,

I'm going to be that guy. You feel what I'm saying? Because that's who I am to the core now. Who I, who I'm evolved to be, that's what keep me grounded. You know what I'm saying? Because that's who I am to the core now. Who I'm evolved to be, that's what keep me grounded. You know what I'm saying? That's why I can go in the hood or go in the boardroom and still be

who I am and have the confidence I got. Because I know where I came from, but at the same time, I know where I was going. Because that guy didn't want to stay where he was at. He was trying to get the fuck up out of there. You know what I'm saying? Because all he kept seeing was his homeboys getting killed and people going to jail gonna do in the jail but it wasn't like and they're gonna jail for a city boy so it was real so for me

I was just really trying to get out and a lot of that music I was doing I was I was working I was getting money I was getting money. I was in the streets. I was still fucking, then, you know, with gang members. And, you know, that was my reality. Like, 50 people living in my house.

You know what I'm saying? But they can't, I got, you know, I got a kid now. They can't be in my crib. It don't work like that. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time,

they call me all the time. You good? You straight? Let me know somebody got hit in the hood or whatever. But they know who I am to the core because we've been in real shit

And I've always been on the front line You know what I'm saying? Like I've always been Whatever our movement was at the time Speaking on that Like from the beginning It was like You know

From the gang culture It was like the first time We actually got to see like Atlanta Right Claiming Crips You know what happened? I'm going to tell you what happened So I came up When I got out see like Atlanta claiming Crips or claiming the weather. You know what happened? I'm going to tell you what happened.

So I came up when I got out. When I got out the last time I got out, one of my partners, which was one of my good friends, you know, he took me to the MAC. But I went there to get money. You know what I'm saying? Make it. Okay. Oh, make it Georgia?

Yeah, when I went there to get money. And when I first got there and got on the block i was looking around and it was gang culture you know what i'm saying but it was just like you know if you're gonna be over here you gotta be and that wouldn't happen in at all it was not happening it was just there yeah because they because the cats from la was there summer vacation ice Cube summer vacation. Yeah, they was going there. So when you get there, you got motherfuckers. Braze, Jerry Curls, Dickie Suits, Chuck Taylors.

They was moving the work. Yeah, but no, they was gangbanging. But I'm saying they moved the work with the gang. Yeah, they was gangbanging. So for me, you know, I'm a natural born leader. So I was like, shit, I get that part. I'm with you. Whatever we got to do, you know what I'm saying? We're going to do it. But let's get some money. And they're like, shit, I get that part. I'm with you. Whatever we got to do,

you know what I'm saying? We're going to do it. But let's get some money. And he's like, what do you mean? I was like, give me two days, I'll be back.

I left and I came back. And that hood never seen nothing like that ever. You know what I'm saying? Like, I showed them how to get money. But at the same time, I understood the culture as far as the gang shit.

But this is my family now. These are people that make it so straight every day. Take care of them, you know to carry I'm staying on niggas auntie sofa, whatever So as all this going on, you know saying and I'm back and forth as my family in Atlanta You know I'm saying so as I figured my shit out, you know, I'm damn near in Cahoots with a whole city you from saying so it I had homeboys There was red rags that wouldn't even come on that side of the town. But I worked that shit out because I'm like, yo, we got to get money.

Like, if you go to Harvard and I go to fucking Stanford, don't mean we can't get money. We got to figure that part out. So I figured that part out. And with that shit, you know, they really trusted me. So when I went back to Atlanta to get back on the music shit, I brought three tour buses of people from my neighborhood to Atlanta and bought three houses right beside each other and put them all in the houses. And that's how we was moving.

So when Atlanta first started seeing, like, Crips and shit, it was with me. You know what I'm saying? That was the first time I heard it. Yeah. By the way, other people got on. Even other artists was like, okay, we're going to wear this because that's how these people rock. So they didn't really even know. They was just wearing red rags because, you know what I'm saying,

no disrespect to the red rags, but they was wearing red rags because they saw them wearing blue. You know what I'm saying? And they saw it on TV. Right, and it was crazy, bro, because it was never none of that shit up there. And I used to go out, and my homeboys, like, my crew, they never, like, they're not, like, casted, was in the fashion. So they were really still wearing dickies Chuck Taylor's on the whole everywhere we went

anybody know when I was coming through any city oh five oh six oh seven no they when the first two tour buses pulled up that's what it was my whole neighborhood cuz I took everybody with me and everybody was living in my house I've come downstairs motherfucking guns going off the shit you know I'm saying like these two niggas in the ass on mistake because they was sat out. You know what I mean? It was real. Now, to beat BMF,

did you have to beat Crip too? Nah. That's a lot of things that people don't understand. Like, with Dude, he just brought people together. Okay. It was a family.

It was just a hustle. Yeah, it was a family. But one thing I respect about him and I always respect, he brought some of the illest. Like, when I watch Narcos and I see the Felix guy who put put everything together that remind me of my God because you talking about the most dangerous people in Mexico sent him at

the table and say this we're gonna do now I'm not saying that's what he did technically right what I saw around him was love people from New York people from near people's neck bloods Crips GD's vice-lord and we together you know I'm saying so he was able to bring the love and make people love each other, and that's what I respected. You know what I'm saying? When you hear it's 50 Cent that's actually executive producing or producing? The BMF. The BMF.

Right. What's the first thing that pops up in your mind? I mean, shit, you know, as long as my dude eating and he getting his shit off, I'm with whatever he about. But you don't feel like you think you should be a consultant? Hell no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was the exact opposite of what I thought you were going to say. I thought you were going to be like, no. If he wanted me to be a part of it.

Oh, you're saying like if me? Yeah, but like me, like, you know, a lot came with that, bro. You know what I'm saying? I love my nigga, man, and that's going to be forever. You know what I'm saying? But a lot came with that. Everybody ain't going to be bro. You know what I'm saying? I love my nigga, man, and that's going to be forever. You know what I'm saying? But a lot came with that. Everybody ain't going to be happy. You know what I'm saying?

I know people personally. I don't want to be responsible for that. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be, you know what I mean? I know his son. I know his mother. You know what I'm saying? I don't want nothing to be funny on me, but they're doing business.

You don't do business with your friends. You feel what I'm saying? This is my guy. I support him. If he asks me to pop up, do whatever. But it's just like, I went through a lot with that. You know what I'm saying? Listen, my guy, I support him. If he asks me to pop up, do whatever, but it's just like, I went through a lot with that.

You know what I'm saying? And he did too. And even to the point where people thought we was at odds and it was just like, no, nigga, he just incarcerated.

You know what I'm saying? A lot of people thought that. But at the same time, I go see him. We talk. But like anybody else, this incarcerated, you just never know what's going through somebody's head. And you never know who they talking to. So this incarcerated like you just never know

what's going through somebody's head and you never know who they talking to so it's like I never fought with him for anything I love him

that's my brother he's always going to be my brother and we've had talks where his mama had to get on the phone be like you two get on the phone

and talk and it's love that's my brother I had Thanksgiving with his you know with his mother and his stepdad

before people even knew what was really going on with him in the streets we was already family. You know what I'm saying? So when he went through his shit, you know, I had to respect that because at the end of the day for me, I know he's a good dude. But then I also know the game, how that game go. And anybody that know that game know that, you know, those things, those type of things happen.

I think with me, a lot of people looked at my shit was being successful as if you know I did something wrong but that was never the case you know that's not everybody I just so you know like um a lot of times when you become successful it's like it's like a seven different demons right like a seven different things and you can't control all seven right like the thing about it is like you can get five you maybe if you're lucky you get six but it's always going to be one person or one thing or one situation that you're not going to be able to satisfy and you're always going to look like the bad guy when you become famous because it's easier to blame you right not to say in their situation

you're just saying right but in so many different scenarios when a person don't make it or the person don't do whatever it's like yo my man ain't put me on like your situation it was fucking with me mentally for you I didn't really have a clear head into the recession hmm cuz I was still dealing with shit and tilling with too much like the album recess I didn't have a clear head and realize I was an artist and I was in a position that I can do what I do until the Recessions. Because all the whole time, I was going through survivor's remorse.

You know what I'm saying? Because it was just like, I would see niggas, and they'd be like, oh, man, you... I'd be like, damn, man, like, these same persons say you love me. You know what I'm saying? It was weird. But not in a bad way.

It's because I was trying to, you know, quote, unquote, keep it solid. Then I had to realize, like, I got to keep it solid with myself because I got people that's really following and loving what I'm doing. So I got to make sure that I'm on my shit and I'm progressing because these people really love me for who I am. You know what I'm saying? So I had to kind of just come to grips with it. And my homie told me that, like, my homie told me that before he went to the pen. He's like, yo, he's like, you smart.

You got that dog. I can see how you move, how you think. But he said, it's going to come a time in your life where, it's going to come a time in your life where people are going to say you changed. But this is really who you are. And this is what you're working towards. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's my path. You know what I'm saying?

And it's like that's my path you know I'm saying this game is your vision so people might not understand where you're going but it's just like if I would have listened to niggas when I was in the hood and stayed in the hood I still be in the hood I wouldn't even be in the hood talking to you now that's a fact I had one of my uncles man I tried to sell him one of my mix CDs back in the day I was like yo buy one of my CDs on $10 like nigga fuck that CD give me some of that weed though you got the 10 you know how. Right, right, right, right, right. You know how I feel when I go back to my family events

and I'm pulling up in a fucking, you know, a fucking Phantom and I got a driver and I see that same nigga like, what's up, huh? Right, right. What's up, nigga?

Because he didn't believe. Right. You know what I'm saying? And he tried to instill his fears on me and I kept going. But look at it now. It's just like

with anybody else, they're going to tell you you know what I'm saying, like you ain't keeping it solid. You ain't doing it right. But then who's to say they're keeping it solid? And they're like, what I had to learn about this game is different levels of real, my G. Like people will sit here and tell you, I'm keeping it real. I'm keeping it solid. Then they don't even go home and keep it real with their family.

You know what I'm saying? They don't even go home and keep it real with their brother, their mama. You know what I'm saying? But they'll keep it real you really nigga in the club because they say you're shooting this thing Knocks my head off and then he tell everybody not everybody down, but who can't real By the way, I've been on the front I did shit for niggas like on site. That's what I Left my car anybody right say I usually my shit in valet ice to be so I left my car, anybody ride take, I used to leave my shit in valet, I used to be in, so I'm like, I'll get off right there on site. You know what I'm saying, I don't deal with them niggas.

And then six months later, nigga turned on me, and I'm like, what the fuck am I risking my freedom, you know what I'm saying, everything I worked for to prove a point. Oh, yeah, I got stuff. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't even being extra, I'm just saying, that's how I had to learn.

So when I learned that, I was just like, yo. Can't go to war for everybody. I'm born as a warrior by myself. I got to be responsible for all my actions. And I can't do things for people that I know they won't do for me. You know what I'm saying? Including like, you know, look at myself as if I'm wrong for pursuing what it is that I started out to pursue. Just think about all the people where you from that you used to hang out with

and you was cool with and everybody loved Norrie when you was, what, what, what, what? And then as soon as you said, you know, I'm going to go do this. I got kids. I got family. You know what I'm saying? I got a wife. I want to hang out with some ho-hops, nigga.

You feel what I'm saying? I see you, baby. Pop it, brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Them niggas want to be drinking Tropicana's and all that. Because I've seen you come through that.

You know what I'm saying? I see where you're at and I see where your middle is at. And I'm going to applaud that because that's where you want to go. You know, I used to,

pardon me for cutting you, I used to feel guilty for not being able to take out of 10 people, 10 people. And then I started to realize that I took the eight. Then I started to realize I took six. Then I started to realize I took four. Then I started to realize that I took the eight. Then I started to realize

I took six. Then I started to realize I took four. Then I started to realize I'm only taking the people that want to be here. Because the crazy shit I ever experienced

was bringing a person overseas and bringing a person to all this experience and a person not being thankful. Just being like, you know what? You were supposed to bring me there. They feel entitled.

I was like, I had a nigga tell me one time I was like yo man I want you know like what do you want to do you wanna go to school I'm doing they can say no I'm here for moral support I was like what the fuck is that do some shit even on this song when I don't call fake love too. I've been through some shit, dog. Even on this song on the album called Fake Love, bro. I've been to some shit where I don't take care of everybody. As soon as she hit the fan, I was standing by myself. I couldn't believe it.

Me. As smart as I am. I'm like, yo, I know that nigga tricked me. You know what I'm saying? In a real way. But that made me a man, bro. I learned you can do whatever you want for people dog if it go down You're gonna be stuck holding the bag

You know I'm saying this shit is real like you got you got a responsibility to keep and I was stuck holding the bag Cuz I was trying to take care of people But what I learned was you know, I didn't put I tried to put people in position by pacifying them You feel I'm saying but when I should have been trying, you know, I tried to teach them a trade. I tried to put them in a position to win, but that ain't what they wanted.

And that's that whole thing about taking that walk. It's where you headed, you know what I'm saying, and where you want to go. Some people just want to go with you.

Like, it's cool. If I tell you right now, let's walk to overtime, you're like, hell no, nigga. You don't want to go. You know what I'm saying? But if you want to be like,

yeah, I'm going to walk with you, we chop it up on the way. Maybe we come up with something. You know, that's it. You know what I'm saying? But when shit get real, nobody want to do that. You feel, I'm going to walk with you, we chop it up on the way. Maybe we come up with something. You know, that's it. You know what I'm saying? But when shit get real, nobody want to do that.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, if it's 10 miles, 15 miles, a real one who see your vision going to be like, shit, I'll walk with you, dog. You know what I'm saying? Maybe we see something on the way. We'll figure it out. But if somebody who don't see your vision going to walk with you far enough to say, you know what, that's too far. Let me turn around. Let me go back.

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Right. And he called me. He was like, yo, go sign the contract. I'm like, yo, I'm going to Magic City. I ain't signing no contract. So he wanted me to sign the contract and send it back through Kinko's. But how did the group start? Was it? I'm like, yo, I'm going to Magic City. I ain't signing no contract. So he wanted me to sign the contract and send it back through Kinko's. But how did the group start? Was it?

I'm telling you. Oh, that's how it started? Yeah, Puff called me. Okay. He said, I sent you a contract. I want you to be in the group. I only did one song, them boys. Right.

But at the time, you know, my mixtape buzz was going. He wanted me in the group. Right. So he's like, yo, go to Kinko's. Sign the paper. Send it back to Kinko's. Go to Kinko's. Yeah.

I'm like, yo, I'm going to Magic City to paper, send it back to Kinko's. Go to Kinko's and sign the paper. I'm like, yo, I'm going to go to the Magic City to fuck up some paper. I'm not going to do that. And that's how it started. Then he came down, we talked some more, and he's like,

I was like, yo, Puff, I rock with you, man. I'll do one album. I wrote the number down, I gave him the number. I said, I'll do one album. He said, cool. Then I had to go back

and talk to L.A. Reid because at the time I had just signed to Def Jam. Right. You know what I'm saying? That must have been crazy to clear all that for a group. Yeah, he did it. Because, you know, at the time, they was really cool.

You know what I'm saying? To my boys in the hood, right? Yeah, yeah. And L.A. Reid was cool with me doing one record deal with them. And then I pushed Thug Motivation back a month to do this project, to put it out before Thug Motivation.

And I did that. But I really did that for them, man, because they was like, Gee, Jody, Duke. Like, working with them brushed my game up too, because you got to keep in mind, like, I wasn't a rapper. The first time I did a song with

the niggas Tree daddy was in the studio jazzy fade a whole bunch of people and I was doing the voice to them boys Now I'm in there. I'm a street do I got Ferrari outside? You know I'm in here with the all these these rappers and they going and knocking the verse out 10-15 minutes And it took me like two hours just to put my patterns together. And I'm like, shit. So tricking all of them in there like, yo, go do your shit. You know what I'm saying? Go do your song. So it takes me a while, especially back then

because I really didn't know how to record. Like Eazy-E on Strut and Cocktail. So I had to figure it out. But you was writing your own shit though. Yeah. Different from Eazy-E. Right, right. But I did the verse and when I started doing the verse, I remember Trick laughing. Like, yo, you talking about signs, nigga?

I remember jazzing him, leaving the room, and everybody left. And I was in the control room with the engineer by myself. And then I said, yo, I think I got it now. So I went back in there and I did it. And what I would do was, like, when I did my verses, after I did my ad-libs, I would walk out in the hallway and have them turned all the way up so I could feel it. You know what I'm saying? And I remember it took like two hours.

I walked outside in the hallway and they turned the shit up. And I just remember, if it's taking too long to lock up, bring it back. You see motherfuckers like, you know what I'm saying? You see a trick coming at you like, then all of a sudden everybody in the hallway and they just going crazy. Like, yo, nigga, that shit is crazy. And I'm just looking like, like damn, you know what I'm saying you see a trick coming like you know all of a sudden everybody in the hallway And it is going crazy like yo nigga. That shit is crazy, and I'm just looking like

Like damn you know I'm saying but at first it was like acting like you know like the boy shits up But they didn't understand how you know I put my records together. That's your process right, but but I was in a rapper You guys you got like I didn't. I don't know. I'm not going to lie. Right. I don't believe you in that part because you are a rapper. Yeah. And you are a lyricist also. But what I'm saying is

I was somebody trying to get out of the street. I understand that. But at the end of the day, it don't matter why you got there, but you are there. No, no, no. Like real hip hop people

will respect you. Like it's not like. Come on, man. You know, I could be Elon Musk right now. Right, right, right. Elon know, I could be Elon Musk right now, bro. Elon Musk could wrap his ass up. But I'm just saying, I'm like that.

Like, if I want to do something, I'm going to do it. That's how I live my life, bro. Like, I love a challenge. You know what I'm saying? I love being put it, you know, my back against the wall. That's just who I am. So when I had to show up and show out, that's what it was. But I had to learn sitting around the studio paying certain people for beats and not using them just to watch what the lingo was.

Bring it back. I take that take. You know what I'm saying? Put it out there. I didn't know that shit. You wasn't a studio rapper. Nah. But not to say that you wasn't an artist, a rapper.

That's how I was, too. I was great at writing. I was great at spitting. But when it came to actually laying it down, I was definitely rusted. You don't have to be technical in the studio. Now, a question I always wanted to ask you. Oh, shit. Come on with it.

I know the role, baby. Busta had a record called, well, Busta Rhymes, of course, had a record called Conglomerate. It was the number one. It was tearing New York City up. I don't know about the rest of the country At the time Because I was just Stationed in New York It was him Jadakiss

And you Right Then The actual video Drops And it's him Jadakiss And Lil Wayne

Right What happened there? I didn't like I think it was the verse man You didn't like your verse? It was something real With the verse I don't remember it though That was from You had a like your verse? It was something real with the verse. I don't remember it, though.

That was fucked up. You had a hard verse, bro. Let me tell you something. You got to give another excuse. That's probably one of them times. I got to agree, because Busta ain't been nothing but a solid nigga. And I seen him. I was just like, yo, Busta, you don't fuck with me?

And it's probably because of that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, OK. We should figure out. Get out of here. I didn't know that. But I'm going to be real, man. At one time, I was in my head a lot.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I just, you know, not thinking as an artist. I'm just, like, personal about shit. And I think that was one of the times I was in my head. Because it happened to me a couple times. Like, Recipe Short and Low. Like, when you reached out to me to do that record, I was in my head. I was like, well, I can't do it because I got this coming out.

I'm just like, well, I should have just did it. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. So I got to get real. That was one of the times I was in my head. You know what? Yeah.

That's good to fucking hear. You know what? You know what? You know why? You know why most people, like, sometimes it's just good to be like, you know what? I fucked up. Yeah, nah. You know, because so many people were, like, well-rolling.

Like, sometimes, rolling like sometimes... I'm sure Busta will appreciate that because as artists we appreciate... When an artist reach out to another artist is because I respect you. Because I don't want to have an artist on my record that I don't respect. So, most people,

we automatically think that if you do the thing, you automatically do the video. I mean, excuse me, you do the record, you automatically do the video. So, it's good like to hear a person like, like you humble yourself and be like, you automatically do the video. I mean, excuse me, you do the record, you automatically do the video. So it's good to hear a person like you humble yourself and be like, you know what, I might have just was in my head. That's so dope to me.

When you in it and you first starting off, you kind of just react. But as you come into your own and you see things and patterns and shit and you start learning how the game works. I would have never Thought this shit I did ten years ago would be affecting me as much as it did now

It's like even worse Shit like that cuz you see somebody be like yo it is you Remember the last shit you did to him. You saw me in the club But I've learned to be more, you know, be more, you know, conscious about what I say or what I do to people that, you know, that I fuck with or people that, you know, fuck with me. You know what I'm saying because you know it's been time when people ask me to do things and depending on what I had going on I might not done it because I was thinking about my next move but then start be around people like puff and that's why I fuck with them he's like no man you gotta help everybody yeah you know say can't be here somebody call me right now I'm gonna do it and I was just

like okay explain to me how that works Right And once I started Learning about How karma works Yo my dude You know Karma is a little short You know what I'm sorry to cut you off

But What I started to realize This is me Is karma works both ways Karma is real It works both ways So if you do Like every time

I just do something For a nigga And I just be like I know this nigga Can't pay me back Right But like, every time I just do something for a nigga and I just be like, I know this nigga can't pay me back. Right. But that's not what I'm doing it for. Right. I'm doing it for me.

Because I know that this shit is going to come back to me in some way. Right. I have no idea. But, like, I'm lending niggas money and I know it ain't coming back, y'all. You didn't own it. You gave it away.

I just gave it away, my little one. Like, trust me. Trust me. Hey. Trust me. And listen, them niggas, I'll be around them niggas. Them niggas will do anything but bring up money, bro. Them niggas will bring up any.

And you know what? I just got to take it. Right. I knew what this was. So sometimes, but you know what that is? That to take it. Right. I knew what this was. So sometimes, but you know what that is? That's good karma though. Yeah.

Because even if that person doesn't appreciate it, it comes back. You know what I'm saying? So I started to know that karma's a two-way street. Well, the thing about it is that, you know,

your life is broke up in three steps. Like, you get out through the front line, you learn, then you have to survive, and then you live. A lot of that 0405,

I was surviving. So learn, survive, live. Yeah, because I was... Learn, survive, live. You survive, you survive. Learn, survive, live. Learn, survive, live. One time.

Learn, survive, live. That's hard, G. Let's go. It was like at the time, a lot of this shit that went on with me that affected me now, Learn, survive, live. One more time. Learn, survive, live. That's hard, G. You know? It was like at the time, a lot of the shit that went on with me that affected me now, I was surviving. I mean, like I would do whatever I had to do.

So if that means, you know, like, you know, you come out of the streets, bro, it's like shit. It's either you or me and it ain't going to be me. It's going to be you. You know what I'm saying? So it's like you're surviving.

So I didn't realize, you know, I'm just trying to get out of the streets and you know take care of my family and put myself in a better position so a lot of my street ethics came with me so in the streets is you know shit is cutthroat you know what i'm saying so you have to be on the defense so it ain't nothing to like you ever seen heat where you said i can walk away for something in 30 seconds yeah that's my mind state i was like fuck it's like whatever you know what i seconds Yeah yeah That's my mind state I don't give a fuck It's like Whatever You know what I'm saying So that was my mind state When a lot of things Were going on

Because I was really Trying to figure shit out And I ain't had no Body to be like Yo this is what it is Because I'm looking at it From the way I see it So it wasn't no big homies

Until I started fucking With niggas like Hov And different people like that But what I'm saying All that to say is I like the respect you give Yeah but What I'm saying

All that to say is Between that time A lot of things transpired what I'm saying all that to say I like the respect you're giving yeah but what I'm saying all that to say is like between that time a lot of things transpired where I was in my head you feel what I'm saying like I was really

going through real shit you know what I'm saying and it was just like my decisions you know were people that I came in contact with they remember that so they don't know

who I've grown to be and what I've learned they just know when the last time they saw you and that's why they be like yo we want you to be the old no you don't want me to be that guy you know what I've learned. They just know when the last time they saw you and that's why they be like, yo we want you to be the old,

no you don't want me to be that guy. You want me to be. Oh you talking about like how niggas want Kanye to be the old Kanye? Right. I mean that's different. Right, yeah. Clear.

Good answer. Clear. Good answer. Clear. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Now that he mentioned Hov, we streaming on Tidal now. Yes, sir.

Okay, yes. Y'all can check us at Tidal.com forward slash drinkchampsoffer. Okay, goddammit. Goddammit. Goddammit.

And not just Tidal. Yes. Shout out to Nas. We on Mass Appeal and Goddammit. On the audio. Come on, make some noise. Not just Nas.

Shout out to Puffy. We on Revolt TV. Puffy. Hey! Hey! How many more you got? That's it? Yeah, that's it. That's it.

Now, hold up. Hold up. No, no. No, no. And we on YouTube, too. Since you said all these entrepreneurs, you know what I mean? I'm going to go slap my thing here right now.

Yeah, just please. I got a little something for you. Please, please. This is the Fingers Wildest. What the fuck is this? Come on, open it up for me, brother. I don't know what this is. I don't know what this is a figure's wireless figure's wireless figure's wireless figure's wireless

cell phone baby the most efficient device for the most affordable price god damn it this shit looks expensive that's what you know put it on the table man put it over here god damn it I don't know what is going on figure's wireless so what is this, a phone? Fingers wireless.

Okay. That's what I'm into right now, man. Okay. Okay. Put it right here, put it right here. Good looking, good looking. What the? Pop it up, pop it up, pop it up.

Okay, open it up, G. You got to do it. I got it. Say no more. I got it. Say no more. So this is the trap phone for real, the real name? Check out the rest of the stuff, huh? This is the trap phone? No, man, this is the phone. This is the trap phone for real, the real life? Check out the rest of the stuff, huh?

This is the trap phone? Nah, man, this is the executive phone. This is the executive phone. Yeah. Okay. Well, I got to go backwards. I got to go backwards. This is next level.

Dude, that's crazy. Waterproof. Ooh. Now I'm going to take the earbuds. Ooh, wow. Yeah, take this out, bro. Okay, and what's that? Oh, okay.

Take this out, bro. That's a speaker. That's a speaker. Yeah. Okay. You can charge your phone on it, but take this out. This is what I want you to see right now. Okay, okay. That is a speaker. That's a speaker. Okay. You can charge your phone on it, but check this out. This is what I want you to see right now. That shit coming like a Rolex. Yeah, go ahead. You said it coming like a Rolex.

That shit coming like an AP, baby. All right. God damn it. Presentation. Presentation. Show it to the camera. Show it to the camera. Oh, he killed that.

He killed that. That shit got a full screen on the box. Yo. That shit just got ass. This the home. This the home. Oh, okay. Nigga, I'm gonna fuck with the Jeezy phone.

Yes, sir. That's ill. Oh, this is, oh. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill.

That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's ill. That's give a fuck about the Jeezy phone. Yes, sir. That's ill.

Oh, this is all. That's ill. Figures is called figures. Figures. Figures. Figures Wireless. Yes, sir. Oh, man.

Get it now. And it's the same on like the Android. I think it comes with a full screen TV for your crib. Word. And I got your SIM card right here. Oh, shit. You with me? You with me?

Come with a SIM card? Damn. I'll get the name and everything. That's on Goddamn. You know what we. Oh, shit. You in? You in the SIM card? Yeah. I'll get the name and everything. That's what I got. You know what we're gonna do? You know what we're gonna do?

We're gonna make that drink chance phone. By the way, you know I ain't let them touch that. Okay. Right. Okay, that's dope.

That's worldwide, too. Okay, okay, shit. We're gonna make this drink chance phone. We're gonna make the callers call it. Yeah, we're gonna let them call it.

Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you, yo. God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. You have no idea, like, how happy I am for us. You know, the thing is this, right? You know, Drink Champs, we started.

You was with us when we started out three years ago. Tizzy, turn off your volume, bro. No, you know, sometimes we get notes. You know what I'm saying? Notes come through. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, this is live action. But, um, yeah.

Check it, check. Delivery, by the way. See, someone said, oh, yeah. Oh, you know what? We got a shout out to Shine Papers. That's what I've been smoking this whole time. Shout out to Smoke Champs in the building. Shout out to Smoke Champs.

I can't breathe in this building. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, would you like to try the product? My bad.

I'm trying. A bit of a shock. It was going to be rock. But you know what I feel like? I feel like in hip hop, we spend so much years, and this is with no disrespect to these brands, but blowing up Ralph Lauren, blowing up all these other brands.

Let me not even go into them. But the thing is, why don't we own everything? You know what's crazy? Like, I see it now, but, you know, a lot of cats owning their own shit. And you see, you know, these black designers, they're coming up. And even with figures, you know, he's an inventor. He's a brother. Young brother, you know, he's an inventor. He's a brother. Okay.

Young brother, you know what I'm saying? How did you develop this? No, he, you know, we just linked up. He partnered up with somebody. Yeah, I just like, you know,

just his intellect and he's a genius. You know what I'm saying? More things to come. But that's the support we got to give each other. That's right. You know what I'm saying?

Because that's what it's about. And I think a lot of times we get caught up in what we could buy to make us feel richer, but what I've learned in my whole duration of my life

was I was already rich. I was richer than I am now back then because my integrity was more solid. You know what I'm saying? Jesus, we're just letting you know this is not cocaine. This is called a smoke tank.

That wasn't a great segue, by the way. That's really not a good segue. As I turned it off, I said, damn, this did look a little suspect. But look, it's not. I'm just letting you know that's CBD flower. But I'm saying all that to say that we buy a lot of shit because of what it represents. You know what I'm saying I'm saying all that To say that I'm saying all that To say it's like We buy a lot of shit

Because of what it represents You know what I'm saying And We get caught up in You know Supporting that I'm gonna Like you still wear Gucci

I don't You do not No I don't Since that happened Yeah I mean I didn't I really wasn't into it anyway But when that happened It's like

You know There's certain things You just gotta stand on You know what I'm saying Like Did Tip call you directly Or like no I just know you know tip I feel like yeah I walk by the other day and I heard tip in my head I'm gonna be right down the side, homeboy. I'm gonna be doing. All right, all right, all right. But you know, Tip, Tip, that's my brother, man. Good nigga.

It's crazy. I remember Tip came in the studio one time when I was in patchwork, when I was telling you that I was one foot in, one foot out. And I was working on Trap or Die, and he came to patchwork, which is like a famous studio in Atlanta. And he came, and he walked in,

and he told me he was gonna come through. And he came and he walked in. He told me he was going to come through. So he came through. He looked around. You know, I got the lounge going. I got my homies in there counting money. I got money in the vocal booth. You know, everything. He came, stood around, do his whole little thing.

You know what I'm saying? I probably had about $2 million in the studio. And Tip go, let me talk to you for a minute. So he walked me in the bathroom. I'm like, fuck. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yo, you know you for a minute. So he walked me in the bathroom. I'm like, fuck. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yo, you know you can't do both, right?

You know what I'm saying? You got to make a choice. He's like, you're not going to get away with both of these. Like, something's going to fall. Something's going to get you. Yeah, he's like, you're talented. You got talent.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you can pull this off. And in my mind, you know what I'm saying, I made a decision right then and there. And everybody that owed me when I was in the streets,

I just threw my phone away. I ain't even called nobody for my money. I made a decision right, I went to cold turkey. You know what I'm saying? The craziest thing I ever did in my life.

Got a lottery, the motherfucker. Yeah, but I knew he was right. Because I wasn't going to walk away like that. You know what I'm saying? But him telling me that and I was already thinking that just really made me go like, you're going to walk away like that. You know what I'm saying? But him telling me that, and I was already thinking that,

just really made me go like, you're going to have to make a decision now or deal with the consequences later. And I made a decision, and I walked away, and I threw my phone away and everything I had. I gave my people the money that I owed them, and I was done. And I walked away. That was the best and worst decision of my life

because, boy, when them new cars were dropping and I couldn't afford them, I was like, God damn. You know what I'm saying? But you'd have to look at the facts. You know, at one point, I thought you and Tip was going to have beef. And I'll tell you why. Okay. It's because us New Yorkers, we both attributed y'all to the trap gods.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Because we didn't call it trapping. Right. I mean, you know what trap was to us in New York? It was actual money. Right. So I actually got a record. I just want to throw this out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In 1997, I said, Let's launch a mad trap. Keep the loot in Iraq. Iraq, see the world. The world, see Iraq. So that was in 1997. So I'll let you know,

I might be the nigga that invented trap. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. You've been everything. So just stop. That's out of the glory. You did it, man.

We wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for you. It's documented on record. But let me go back to the point I was trying to make. Because us in New York, like when they spoke to the Houston language, we identified make because Austin New York like when it spoke to the hustling language we identify with both we are right so when we didn't know who was gonna claim it the track King or whatever whatever but what happened was y'all became like friends and home yes like that and I

think the difference was like he like I got from New York out a bit. Yeah, happy Yeah, I kind of look at it like Jay and puff though. They never had beat. That's a good point You know I'm saying like they just got money they did they think but for me I was more on the motivational tip Because that's that's who I was and that's who I still am So to me, I just wanted my music to touch the hearts of women, men, and children. You feel what I'm saying? So that's what I was doing. I didn't even understand the whole trap shit.

I called Trap or Die, Trap or Die because I was like, you're going to hustle, you ain't going to eat. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't like I was going and saying, I'm the king of the trap. When I was running around and doing shit, and I dropped the Trap or Die DVD, and I might go to somebody's trap house and be doing shit and I just be like when I walk in they watching Trapper Dad on the screen it's like nigga you just seen me like what y'all watching it for like nigga this is motivation I'm just like oh so that's who I was you know saying the whole trap element of it I didn't get that until you know people

associated it with the sound. You feel what I'm saying? And I was just like, okay, this... So it's no different from saying snap music, current music, you know what I'm saying? Or samples, you know what I mean? They just associated it with the sound, you know what I'm saying? But to me, trap was a real way of life.

Yeah, I mean, to us, trap was drug dealing. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, we just had Nas on here and Nas was the epitome of that. Whether you knew Nas sold drugs or not, you knew that he was around that drug dealing element. To me, Nas

is one of those type of people like his storytelling skills you know what it's almost like the Danny Glover kid you know I'm saying if I've watched the ATL show a couple times the video did he got on Netflix but he from the town of Fox yeah from the town but that's how he seen it so he's able to tell the story different than the people that are sitting in the pot.

It's just like, nah, it's just like, you know he from New York City. He ain't grew there. He flew there. Yeah, right. So he was there. He saw it. His storytelling made it vivid for us. Because he was.

Because y'all ain't from Queens, but y'all can understand what's going on. Understand. He can stand outside. But that's what you are. Sit on the stoop and tell you what it was. And for me, it was like the adversity. That's my high.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I like to fight back against shit. You know what I'm saying? I've just always been a rebel. So it's just like, when you got put in situations, like,

how do I get out of this? I think my way through it. I get this shit done. But when I started putting that into my music and people were telling me, yo, I listened to what you said

and this happened. I was like, oh, shit. So it ain't no different from Tony Robbins or any of these guys. Bob Proctor, it's the same thing. You're just telling them what you've been through. It's motivation. Right. You ever did a record with somebody and felt like they got the best of you?

Hold on. Because I think a good record is a good record, but I got to listen to the facts. There's been times that I've felt like, there's been times that I've felt like that wasn't my night in the studio. I can't say that. My voice wasn't right. My delivery was a little off. but that's when I started noticing that I shouldn't just be doing it

just to do it I just do it when I feel it when I'm at my best you know what I'm saying because I can do that you know what I'm saying so what record

you felt like I know you're going to say that I don't know I mean you can name one that you thought was a feature that you felt like

and I can tell you if I no I mean because that you know you and name one That you thought was a feature That you felt like And I can tell you about No I mean Because that You know You and Ross got like The most up in the air With Hov

With Hov Like sometimes People say you got the better verse With Hov And sometimes Hov So they say you got the better And although Depends on where you're from though

Because ain't nobody from New York Gonna say Nah you know Sometimes You don't know Like I'm just saying A verse is a verse Right So is there any time You ever felt like You wasn't 100% confident Yeah, sometimes you don't know. I'm just saying, a verse is a verse.

Right. So is there any time you ever felt like you wasn't 100% confident in what you did and the record came out? I can't name one off the top of my head, but yeah. It's happened. It's happened, yeah. It's like, damn. There's been no time when you sit back and you go like, you know, damn, I smoked too much weed that night. I was lazy.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to lie. I'll tell you one of mine. You want me to tell you one? I feel like Styles P cheated. Right. He had to cheat code. Yo, listen. How'd you know? How'd you know on the Violator joint? Listen. So they

give me the beat at the last minute. Nah, that was a dope record overall. I'm just saying. He asked me a question. Oh, I asked myself No, I just felt like he heard my verse and then he based it off of this but I didn't know he was on the record I didn't know nothing like I know anything No, I just they just gave me the right and then you just if you notice me or Styles don't shout each other out right like that, I know like that's on that record on that record

cause like um I just laid a verse and I left but not thinking someone else is gonna be on there right

so this is a what about your verses you know you got down cause it's some verses I just know like that fucking Khaled

uh so good I couldn't wait to tear that up I ain't even writing it I was just like he played the beat I was just like he played the beat I was just like

turn it off you know what I mean it's always the ones where you just know people's pocket you know what I'm saying it's how you feel it's like

it's like anything else bro like you're gonna have good days you're gonna have bad days it's like basketball playing you're on the court you know what I'm saying you don't get

trouble every night shit's like podcasting so let me just let me just fix it up so I just didn't know so and when I heard that um I always felt like Dan this wasn't a head up like you know you felt this my brother styles my guy had you on that one yeah that's what I'm a man like when I hear that sometimes I'm like which was yours is it's um it's cool come through

right pause it's cool come to that I just remembered I'm looking at me confused they can supposed to be the Google this is great that'd be all my dad that was fucked up that you actually I'm not going to wait for ads to Google it. Yeah, because ads are a fact. I've come through. What is his problem? Oh. Cocaine ads, cocaine ads. Cocaine ads. Yo, but you already got the record.

No, I'm looking at who's the producer. Yeah, who's the producer. And you're a producer. How you don't know? Sorry, cheesy. We very unprofessional. Sorry. The co-'re going to talk today. Too much video. Huh? Some guy named Self.

Some guy. Self. Self-trust. That's fucked up. Bigger styles. I just felt like he heard my version. It's dope. It's super dope.

And your version's dope too, by the way. I'm going to bring you a ventilator next time I come in. Oh man, oh man, okay. So Dope Boy Academy with Tip, is that still gonna happen? Um, we may, we still trying to lock in schedules, man. Okay. You just can't even talk. You don't even smoke.

What are you gonna do? You don't even smoke. Um, yeah, no, we- Well, I'm asking you a question. Sorry. Nah, don't worry about it. We was trying to put it together, but schedules was like crazy. I would come back, he'd be out of the country. Then I'd go out of the country and come back.

But we could find the time. I'm always down to fuck with bro. Right. Yeah. Okay, I got one more question. Let me get up out of here. Yeah. During Hurricane Katrina, you gave your house to people?

I want to leave a dogug nigga on some dope dope. Yeah, y'all let some people stay, man, at the time. Stay in your crib? Yeah. Like in your crib crib? Yeah, yeah. Like you? Yeah.

I ain't gonna lie. In Atlanta? I ain't gonna lie. You a better nigga than me, my nigga. I only got the niggas to Motel 6. He obviously wasn't there, though. I only got to the Motel 6. Yeah, I only got to the Motel 6. He obviously wasn't there, though. I would have gotten to Motel 6. Yeah, I would have gotten to the Motel 6.

But you a good nigga like that? You just let a nigga stay in your crib? Yo, let him be good, man. No, I ain't gonna lie. That's some real shit I was just saying. Katrina victims. I fuck good nigga like that? I'm not that good.

Katrina niggas, I fuck with you. Right. I probably would have put you in there. Just not at the crib. Just not at the crib, y'all. But listen, Gigi, man, we can't thank you enough. Listen, but we do got to say this one thing. Right. Just not at the crib. Just not at the crib, y'all. But listen, Jeezy, man, we can't thank you enough. Listen, but we do gotta say this one thing.

Okay. We've had 167 artists. Right. 69. 69, excuse me. The only artist that didn't take business with the crew is Young Jeezy. We gotta change that today. Oh, let's do it. We gotta change that today. So you just have to take 217 pictures. These people love you.

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Our crowd is based on who the people love. So all these people here, they are here to take a picture with you because, you know what I'm saying,

this is a Dream Champs edition from Pup Daddy to Nas to 50 to whatever. They come here. They're going to ask you some dumb shit, but it's going to be five minutes and it's okay. But Gigi, let me just tell you something. Best of luck to your endeavors with the figures. They're going to ask you some dumb shit, but it's going to be five minutes and it's okay.

But Gigi, let me just tell you something. Best of luck to your endeavors with the figures. Did I say that right? Figures, yes, sir. I just got to think. Avion.

Avion defines fuel. Are you pronouncing it right? Avion? I think so. All right, Avion. Excuse me. Avion, Avion. I'm going to big up to you.

Avion. Avion. Big up to this new album that's coming out next week. Yo, we didn't even talk about that shit. You know why? Because the people are invested in Young Jesus. Yo, Legend of the Snowman, baby. Yeah, Legend of the Snowman.

I'm invested in them, too, as well. Yes, and we want people from Drink Chance, people from Smoke Chance, people from everywhere. You go out here and support people. He didn't have to come back to us. He came here because he knows what it is. We're doing what we got to do. Drink Champs alumni. He's a Drink Champs alumni.

Next time he come, we're going to have a chain for him. God damn it. Let's go. Let's go. I ain't going to laugh in a minute, y'all. I want to talk to y'all yandes. Let's do it. Outro Music God invited choke any folder than the pressure God if you know me you could rely on me I won't let a human being come and lie on me to never tell me what I did and we didn't do drink tap the streets and niggas we ain't political still happy to be here still relevant it's evident some niggas clowns it's like the president so I'ma stay around positivity all I got time for in my

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